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| 00:42:09 | jentulman | Hi I'm looking for a bit of archos help |
| 00:42:17 | diddystar5 | ok :) |
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| 00:43:08 | jentulman | Ive just put a box of bits that was an studio 20 back together and it works, but has a HD error. I've got no usb cable but have 2 male usb plugs on cable that i can join, but I'm wondering which pins to join to which |
| 00:43:30 | jentulman | can anyone point me at a site or similar with a wiring diagram |
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| 00:44:38 | DJBaz | hey |
| 00:44:56 | DJBaz | whats this about rockbox can talk? |
| 00:45:24 | diddystar5 | jentulman, i have no diagram, but itn't the wires in the cable colored? |
| 00:46:13 | jentulman | yep, but I'm wondering if any of the lines should cross or something. I'm not overly familiar with usb. |
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| 00:47:26 | DJBaz | anyone? |
| 00:49:34 | diddystar5 | no, will be fine |
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| 00:49:48 | diddystar5 | just wire the same colored ones together |
| 00:50:32 | jentulman | wicked cheers very much |
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| 01:01:01 | DJBaz | where do i put the voice file? |
| 01:01:55 | diddystar5 | DJBaz, not sure, i have yet to use the voice |
| 01:02:01 | DJBaz | kk |
| 01:02:10 | diddystar5 | DJBaz, from what i have heard you can out it anywhere |
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| 01:02:24 | DJBaz | how would i use the voice, i dont hear the voice :/ |
| 01:02:45 | top_bloke | (back) duration:[ hours 18 minutes and 7 seconds] reason:[store] «~(polaris v2.05c)~» |
| 01:04:15 | DJBaz | hm |
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| 01:06:05 | Strath | hello all |
| 01:06:18 | DJBaz | does anyone know about how to use the voice? |
| 01:06:30 | Strath | not I |
| 01:07:10 | DJBaz | kk |
| 01:07:27 | diddystar5 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/lang/ |
| 01:07:29 | diddystar5 | read that |
| 01:07:54 | diddystar5 | make sure it is located in the /.rockbox/lang dir and that the file name is max 24 characters. Then simply click PLAY on it. |
| 01:08:04 | DJBaz | ah |
| 01:08:08 | DJBaz | ill give it a go, brb |
| 01:08:11 | diddystar5 | settings are somewhere in the general settings menu i think |
| 01:08:20 | diddystar5 | like in talk or voice |
| 01:08:55 | DJBaz | yeah |
| 01:10:01 | DJBaz | yay it works :) |
| 01:10:08 | DJBaz | well im off to bed, nnn |
| 01:10:27 | diddystar5 | bye bye |
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| 05:15:56 | DHS | Anybody out here willing to help a newbie get set up to try developing? |
| 05:16:25 | scott666 | maybe |
| 05:16:27 | scott666 | heh |
| 05:16:42 | scott666 | i think i just read your post to the list |
| 05:16:54 | DHS | probably, I just sent it up there. |
| 05:17:47 | scott666 | my recomendation would be to completely skip rolands setup page and get bluechips installer |
| 05:18:15 | scott666 | youre using windows, right? |
| 05:18:38 | DHS | Yup. As I say, I've done much of Roland's setup. |
| 05:18:55 | scott666 | where did you get stuck? |
| 05:19:29 | DHS | I couldn't get the CVS to communicate - I think I may have to open a port on my firewall. |
| 05:19:56 | DHS | I downloaded the source, but it is the wrong extension for the unzipper Roland mentions. |
| 05:20:17 | scott666 | .tar.gz? |
| 05:20:45 | DHS | Yup, I have the .tar.gz file |
| 05:20:49 | scott666 | http://www.7-zip.org/ |
| 05:21:14 | scott666 | good replacement for winzip/winrar/etc. |
| 05:21:45 | DHS | I take it the .gz is yet another compression format? |
| 05:22:03 | scott666 | yup |
| 05:22:04 | scott666 | gzip |
| 05:22:45 | DHS | So I gotta download gzip.exe from http://www.7-zip.org/? |
| 05:22:53 | scott666 | no |
| 05:22:55 | Strath | winzip handles tar.gz just fine |
| 05:23:11 | scott666 | 7-zip is an all-in-one program for most forms of compression |
| 05:23:21 | Strath | ewh |
| 05:23:25 | scott666 | winrar and winzip should work too, i just prefer 7zip |
| 05:24:04 | DHS | I'll have to check to see if I still have Winzip since my upgrade to XP |
| 05:24:05 | Strath | pick one focus and excell at it.... |
| 05:25:37 | DHS | duh, I was so intent on the command line I didn't even bother to try an explorer window |
| 05:26:11 | DHS | It seems that I do have winzip still, after all - linked to the .gz extension, no less :-) |
| 05:26:49 | DHS | So I extract to C:\Cygwin\rockbox? |
| 05:28:53 | DHS | It seems to have created a directory rockbox-2.2 under ...\rockbox |
| 05:29:52 | DHS | I now have a C:\Cygwin\rockbox\rockbox-2.2 directory with apps, docs,... in it. |
| 05:34:36 | DHS | I created a directory C:\Cygwin\rockbox\Tools and put the 5 .exe tools in it. |
| 05:35:11 | DHS | My goal for the evening is to do a make. |
| 05:38:14 | DHS | hmm... now I tried to do a make in /rockbox/rockbox-2.2/firmware and got a message |
| 05:38:34 | DHS | saying "Don't run make here" Neat. |
| 05:39:23 | DHS | To run the tools/configure script, I just type "../tools/configure in a new directory? |
| 05:45:08 | DHS | Well, I've made some progress. I ran the configure, and make, and got to a [scramble] Error 255 |
| 05:48:37 | DHS | I'm wondering if I have a 'gcc' −−- I tried searching for gcc.* recursively from \cygwin, and didn't fine one |
| 05:48:46 | midk | um |
| 05:48:50 | midk | get the tools.zip |
| 05:48:52 | midk | unzip to your tools dir |
| 05:49:13 | DHS | I take it gcc.exe is in tools.zip? |
| 05:50:18 | midk | unzip to your tools dir |
| 05:50:25 | midk | typically "unzip" == "unzip all" |
| 05:51:16 | DHS | Ok, I'm looking for tools.zip. I though I had tools, but it just has a few .exe's in it |
| 05:51:35 | midk | so um |
| 05:51:36 | midk | unzip them |
| 05:51:41 | midk | to the dir labeled tools |
| 05:52:03 | midk | a better way is to use the beta sdk |
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| 06:02:59 | DHS | Well, I'd like to postpone trying the sdk until I at least find gcc. |
| 06:03:28 | DHS | I think my problem is that I never did the "select packages" step. |
| 06:03:38 | midk | you are not listening |
| 06:03:44 | midk | i'm not saying any more. |
| 06:04:47 | DHS | well, I listened to a direction to "get the tools.zip", but haven't found it yet. |
| 06:05:03 | midk | are you following the sdk instructions? |
| 06:15:44 | DHS | I think I am now. I've got cygwin setup installing the items from http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/cygwin_sdk.html |
| 06:16:08 | midk | mm |
| 06:16:09 | midk | k |
| 06:16:20 | DHS | I think I inadvertantly started with the "another way" and missed a few stepsw :-( |
| 06:17:12 | midk | rockbox.my-vserver.de/beta |
| 06:17:14 | midk | get 0.2 |
| 06:17:18 | midk | unzip to c:\cygwin |
| 06:17:28 | midk | run c:\cygwin\setup\setup.bat |
| 06:20:32 | DHS | OK, downloading rockbox-sdk_v0.2.exe right now. |
| 06:24:19 | DHS | rockbox-sdk_v0.2.exe is now downloaded, but in the mean time, cygwin setup |
| 06:24:26 | midk | cancel that |
| 06:24:31 | midk | all you need is the sdk |
| 06:24:33 | midk | nuke c:\cygwin |
| 06:24:36 | DHS | is about 70% done |
| 06:24:36 | midk | and unzip the sdk there |
| 06:25:24 | DHS | nuke and unzip. OhhhhKayyyy |
| 06:25:32 | midk | cancel |
| 06:25:35 | midk | delete c:\cygwin |
| 06:25:38 | midk | unzip sdk to c:\cygwin |
| 06:26:08 | DHS | well, right now rockbox-sdk_v0.2.exe is IN c:\cygwin, so nuking it might |
| 06:26:16 | DHS | not be too good an idea? |
| 06:26:23 | midk | move it |
| 06:26:27 | midk | :o |
| 06:26:30 | DHS | yeah, got that. |
| 06:30:50 | DHS | Ran rockbox-sdk_v0.2.exe, it created a directory c:\cygwin\rockbox-sdk with dirs in it |
| 06:31:16 | midk | wait |
| 06:31:18 | midk | stop here |
| 06:31:25 | midk | move everything *in* rockbox-sdk to c:\cygwin |
| 06:31:43 | midk | so the dirs will be in c:\cygwin and a empty "rockbox-sdk" fodler |
| 06:31:46 | midk | folder* |
| 06:32:06 | DHS | done |
| 06:32:14 | midk | delete rockbox-sdk folder |
| 06:32:22 | midk | then enter c:\cygwin\setup |
| 06:32:25 | midk | run setup.bat |
| 06:33:00 | DHS | there is an install.bat, but no setup.bat in cygwin\setup |
| 06:33:08 | midk | that's ok use install |
| 06:33:11 | midk | wasn't sure of the name |
| 06:33:23 | midk | after it completes you can configure and build and checkout etc like normal |
| 06:33:31 | DHS | if finished, apparently OK |
| 06:33:35 | midk | great |
| 06:33:36 | midk | you're done |
| 06:33:58 | DHS | I think I need to re-download the 2.2 firmware, it got lost in the great nuking :-) |
| 06:34:06 | midk | why no daily build? |
| 06:34:22 | DHS | I'll take your advice. |
| 06:34:26 | midk | do this: |
| 06:34:32 | midk | run Rockbox-SDK.bat in c:\cygwin |
| 06:34:37 | midk | you should have the BASH prompt |
| 06:34:41 | midk | yes? |
| 06:35:16 | DHS | yes |
| 06:35:30 | midk | mkdir test |
| 06:35:33 | midk | just for a test build |
| 06:35:42 | midk | i alwasy recommend subdirs for projects |
| 06:35:47 | midk | anyways |
| 06:35:48 | midk | cd test |
| 06:35:51 | midk | and tehn |
| 06:35:53 | midk | rb-checkout.sh |
| 06:36:52 | DHS | It says "i'm checking out apps"... |
| 06:36:56 | midk | yup |
| 06:37:04 | midk | that will check out a bleeding edge source |
| 06:37:13 | DHS | Now I've got the dreaded checkout aborted. |
| 06:37:17 | DHS | connection timed out |
| 06:37:23 | midk | if you were starting a project, say, ..... mm.... new menus |
| 06:37:30 | midk | i'd do |
| 06:37:31 | midk | mkdir menus |
| 06:37:38 | midk | then checkoou tthere |
| 06:37:42 | midk | ok then get a daily build |
| 06:37:44 | midk | but use subdirs |
| 06:37:46 | midk | it's easier |
| 06:38:14 | DHS | I think I've still got that firewall problem |
| 06:38:54 | DHS | I want the source tarball, I presume? |
| 06:38:58 | midk | yes |
| 06:41:18 | DHS | Whew! that sure made a lot of subdirs. I now have C:\Cygwin\home\rockbox\test\rockbox-daily-20040425.tar\rockbox-daily-20040425\firmware |
| 06:41:24 | DHS | with a makefile in it. |
| 06:41:29 | midk | um |
| 06:41:31 | midk | lol |
| 06:41:45 | midk | get out of /firmware |
| 06:41:50 | midk | that's a part of the build |
| 06:42:05 | DHS | where should I be? |
| 06:42:24 | DHS | one dir up, perhaps? |
| 06:43:08 | midk | yes |
| 06:44:23 | DHS | OK, I've undone that mad directory creating. |
| 06:44:27 | DHS | I'm in C:\Cygwin\home\rockbox\test |
| 06:44:47 | DHS | under it are 7 subdirs: apps, docs, firmware...uisimulator |
| 06:45:17 | DHS | I can't do a make here, 'cause no makefile in this directory. |
| 06:45:39 | DHS | perhaps make firmware? |
| 06:45:42 | midk | ok move everything in that folder that has apps, firmware etc |
| 06:45:50 | midk | move it all to cygwin\home\rockbox\test |
| 06:45:58 | midk | so in test is apps, firmware, tools etc |
| 06:46:20 | DHS | That's what I did. |
| 06:47:36 | midk | ok |
| 06:47:37 | midk | now |
| 06:47:42 | midk | in bash |
| 06:47:50 | midk | make sure you're in /test |
| 06:47:51 | midk | do |
| 06:47:53 | midk | mkdir build |
| 06:47:54 | midk | cd build |
| 06:48:00 | midk | ../tools/configure |
| 06:48:05 | midk | set it up, and |
| 06:48:06 | midk | make |
| 06:49:37 | DHS | it's updating dependencies now... |
| 06:49:50 | midk | ok when it's done you're made |
| 06:54:44 | DHS | it's still grumbling along at 400 MHz |
| 06:55:05 | DHS | scratch that - I think it is done! |
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| 06:55:42 | eval- | so i got a 20gb jukebox studio on ebay for $100 for my friends in india |
| 06:56:14 | eval- | now im curious if anyone knows where i can get a 230V type-C (europe/india plug) to 9V DC 600mA transformer? |
| 06:57:19 | DHS | to midk: Thanks for the great support. I'm crashing for the night. |
| 06:57:29 | midk | no probs |
| 06:57:30 | midk | sleep good |
| 06:57:33 | midk | hey eval |
| 06:57:42 | DHS | out |
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| 06:58:32 | eval- | hey midk =) |
| 06:58:36 | eval- | so i bought in |
| 06:58:50 | eval- | i lost a bid for the 'recorder' by $2.50 when i was out of my house :( |
| 06:59:05 | eval- | and ended up paying only $5 less for a 'studio' version |
| 06:59:11 | eval- | so no usb 2.0 for them (eh) |
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| 07:06:29 | eval- | anyone wanna go to: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Product_Id=125556# and tell me if that plug terminal looks like it'd fit in the archos? |
| 07:09:03 | | Part scott666 |
| 07:11:11 | midk | aww |
| 07:11:38 | midk | too large |
| 07:12:16 | eval- | yeah? damn. |
| 07:12:30 | eval- | thanks |
| 07:13:39 | midk | np |
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| 07:14:32 | eval- | this issue about the central-positive vs. central-negative plug |
| 07:14:48 | eval- | is this something where if i buy the wrong 220V AC/DC adapter and the polarity is off i can fry the archos? |
| 07:15:07 | Strath | posible |
| 07:15:50 | Strath | the newer ones include diodes to protect it, however my jb6000 did get toasted by reversed voltage |
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| 07:16:48 | eval- | shit |
| 07:17:00 | eval- | well its a good thing for me to know. thanks! |
| 07:17:14 | CpuMan2001 | is there anything in the 4/30 build to cause the buttons to not work correctly |
| 07:18:39 | CpuMan2001 | when I press off, the usb logo shows up, even though it's not plugged in |
| 07:18:46 | CpuMan2001 | and I think the down button is what f1 should be |
| 07:18:51 | CpuMan2001 | otherwise, nothing else works |
| 07:34:17 | eval- | oh great, i can buy it in italian: http://www.europlanetshop.com/scheda-art.asp?id=6207 |
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| 08:06:04 | midk | hey bio |
| 08:06:11 | BioHazard|Tetris | yo |
| 08:06:31 | | Nick BioHazard|Tetris is now known as BioHazard (~a@cpe-66-75-38-230.bak.rr.com) |
| 08:06:49 | BioHazard | man... it cant just remember my name... |
| 08:07:51 | BioHazard | i need th get a usb card for my new-old laptop |
| 08:08:12 | BioHazard | anyone know of one that dosent stick out? |
| 08:08:17 | midk | not midi |
| 08:08:25 | BioHazard | (a PCMCIA usb card) |
| 08:08:54 | midk | oh no i thought you meant PCI |
| 08:08:55 | midk | :D |
| 08:09:21 | BioHazard | PCI in a laptop? i wish... |
| 08:09:40 | midk | i was kidding. |
| 08:09:42 | midk | joke bio. |
| 08:10:02 | BioHazard | well i dont get it then :) |
| 08:11:03 | BioHazard | the catch is... i need one that will work on a 150MHz pentium w/o MMX |
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| 08:11:28 | midk | HAHAHa |
| 08:12:02 | BioHazard | im very happy with this old thing |
| 08:13:17 | midk | hahahahahahaha |
| 08:13:19 | midk | *rofls |
| 08:13:24 | BioHazard | :p |
| 08:13:37 | midk | and i though i hated my 466 celeron |
| 08:13:40 | midk | HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 08:14:56 | BioHazard | actually, i was suprised how quick it was really |
| 08:15:09 | BioHazard | i expected it to be afwull slow |
| 08:15:58 | BioHazard | and its better than the 486 i had before :p |
| 08:16:20 | midk | \lol |
| 08:17:00 | BioHazard | it can compile rockbox in 20 minutes! :D |
| 08:17:45 | midk | LOL g'job g'job |
| 08:17:48 | BioHazard | actually, i havent tried yet... |
| 08:18:16 | midk | boomboom |
| 08:18:21 | midk | daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 08:18:37 | BioHazard | i was gonna, but then it hit me: "why build rockbox on here if i cant test it on my archos" |
| 08:18:58 | BioHazard | i had cygwin all installed and evrything |
| 08:20:36 | BioHazard | so thats why im looking for a USB card |
| 08:21:02 | BioHazard | so i can work on rockbox <i>anywhere!</i> |
| 08:21:13 | midk | its ctrl+i |
| 08:21:30 | BioHazard | and so i can take advantage of the hard drive in the archos |
| 08:21:50 | BioHazard | it is? |
| 08:21:59 | BioHazard | test |
| 08:22:01 | midk | er |
| 08:22:02 | midk | no tis not |
| 08:22:05 | midk | try ctrl b |
| 08:22:10 | midk | yo yo yo |
| 08:22:16 | BioHazard | test |
| 08:22:20 | BioHazard | that works |
| 08:22:26 | BioHazard | but not i |
| 08:22:32 | midk | that's bold |
| 08:22:35 | midk | and ctrl u is underline |
| 08:22:40 | midk | i is indent |
| 08:22:44 | midk | no italics on irc |
| 08:23:14 | BioHazard | hmmm, i thought i had seen some before |
| 08:23:36 | midk | you thought wrong |
| 08:23:38 | midk | *oooooooooooo |
| 08:24:28 | midk | rebooting to install Mandrake |
| 08:24:34 | midk | back in a bit |
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| 10:16:02 | zingcha | any one up ? |
| 10:16:36 | zingcha | hello .... |
| 10:20:44 | Strath | ? |
| 10:20:56 | zingcha | hey dude |
| 10:21:06 | Strath | whats up? |
| 10:21:16 | zingcha | any pointers to HOW TO make voice files in a different language ? |
| 10:21:45 | Strath | i don't know |
| 10:21:49 | zingcha | :( |
| 10:22:11 | zingcha | will leave this window open in case some one who knows drops by |
| 10:22:23 | Strath | sure, sure :) |
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| 17:32:57 | McBill | hi all |
| 17:33:08 | LaurentG | hi |
| 17:33:23 | McBill | I have Jukebox multimedia |
| 17:33:37 | McBill | is there any version of rockbox for it? |
| 17:34:06 | LaurentG | I might be wrong since I always mix models, but I think there's none yet |
| 17:34:55 | LaurentG | but I seem to recall that there's some work being done with them, although there's not much public data about it unfortunately |
| 17:35:06 | McBill | I have a problem with my JBM hard drive, could you please let me know if there is any tools to fix it? |
| 17:35:24 | McBill | it makes some noise from time to time |
| 17:35:49 | LaurentG | could you describe that noise further ? |
| 17:36:36 | McBill | something like scratching |
| 17:37:09 | McBill | I tried to scand disk it but no success |
| 17:37:21 | LaurentG | doesn't sound very enticing, do you have any problems reading data from the drive or does it just emit strange sounds ? |
| 17:37:21 | McBill | I formatted it and I got the same result |
| 17:37:56 | McBill | sometimes Windows gives the message 'Cannot read from drive I:' |
| 17:38:26 | LaurentG | scandisk is not very good at detecting/fixing errors, but did you try a "surface test" ? |
| 17:38:32 | LaurentG | (in scandisk) |
| 17:38:43 | McBill | yes and it halts the machine |
| 17:39:05 | McBill | I tried Fix-It utilities too... same thing |
| 17:39:15 | LaurentG | then the disk probably has surface errors. if you model is nice you should invoke the warranty |
| 17:39:23 | LaurentG | replace "nice" by "new" |
| 17:39:25 | LaurentG | :) |
| 17:39:49 | LaurentG | and "you model" by "your model"... |
| 17:39:51 | McBill | I beg your pardon? |
| 17:40:08 | LaurentG | is the archos still under warranty ? |
| 17:40:14 | McBill | no |
| 17:41:08 | LaurentG | ok, then you have to choices : really fix the disk using a really efficient (but costly) program such as spinrite, or buy a new disk |
| 17:41:13 | LaurentG | two choices |
| 17:42:19 | McBill | hmmm... buying a new HDD is like buying a new archos |
| 17:42:39 | LaurentG | it's probably less expensive |
| 17:43:28 | LaurentG | moreover, you may try to use a bigger HDD |
| 17:43:33 | McBill | is it standard hard drive, I mean it is like laptop drives? |
| 17:44:11 | LaurentG | For the non multimedia model, they are indeed standard 2"5 laptop drives |
| 17:44:51 | LaurentG | for the multimedia, I guess it's the case too, but I don't know for sure, you should check on the rockbox site, it's probably indicated somewhere (or in the mailing list archives) |
| 17:47:38 | McBill | thank you very much for your time |
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| 17:48:38 | LaurentG | you're welcome. you might come back later when there are more people. I'm not the most knowledgeable here :) |
| 17:49:18 | McBill | I will, thanks again |
| 17:49:57 | LaurentG | my pleasure |
| 17:53:11 | McBill | cya |
| 17:53:21 | LaurentG | bye |
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| 21:07:29 | DHS | Hello, hello. Anybody want to help a newbie developer with a whine for help? |
| 21:08:13 | DHS | Last night I did my first build OK, with no changes anywhere. It seemed to go OK. |
| 21:08:33 | DHS | Today, I tried my first "let's see if I can make an inconsequential change" change. |
| 21:08:45 | diddystar5 | go on... |
| 21:08:56 | DHS | I edited lang.c, and changed "Time:" to "Txme:" |
| 21:09:19 | DHS | I did the make, and it didn't seem to recompile lang.c |
| 21:09:40 | DHS | I made a routine touch to recording.c, and did a new make |
| 21:09:52 | amiconn | DHS: Afair, lang.c is generated dynamically during build. |
| 21:09:55 | diddystar5 | that you will not want to do, the actual language strings are in /apps/lang/(blank).lang |
| 21:10:39 | DHS | OK, I think I see my problem. I presume that had I edited english.lang, the make would |
| 21:10:48 | DHS | have caught it and it would have worked OK. |
| 21:11:05 | diddystar5 | DHS, try a make clean, and then a make |
| 21:11:15 | DHS | I'm going to keep this mIRC open, and try to make my dumb edit. |
| 21:11:56 | DHS | uh, excuse the dumb question, but what exactly does 'make clean' do: touch everyting first? |
| 21:12:23 | diddystar5 | DHS, is removes are generated files dont by make |
| 21:12:39 | diddystar5 | s/dont/done |
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| 21:14:39 | amiconn | bbl |
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| 21:18:16 | DHS | I had a hunch that a well-written makefile shouldn't require a "make clean" |
| 21:18:43 | DHS | so I just edited english.lang and did another make. |
| 21:19:06 | DHS | according to my hex examination of rockbox.bin, it seems to have worked OK |
| 21:19:39 | diddystar5 | goody :) |
| 21:19:44 | DHS | I'm about to download the .ajz file to my recorder and try it now. |
| 21:20:09 | DHS | my first real goal is to add an auto-stop to recording, so that when I'm dubbing |
| 21:20:27 | DHS | lps or cassettes, I can leave the system untended, and the recording will stop |
| 21:20:33 | LaurentG | make clean is there to remove object files and the likes, it has nothing to do with well-writtenness ;) |
| 21:20:55 | DHS | automatically. I now that Linus intends to do a full-fleged recording timer, but |
| 21:21:03 | diddystar5 | DHS, like have recording stop after a cetain amount of time? |
| 21:21:08 | DHS | I'm impatient for that one little piece of it. |
| 21:21:25 | DHS | diddystar5, yes, like hav recording stop after a set amount of time. |
| 21:21:59 | LaurentG | dhs : for example, you must do a "make clean" before archiving your folder |
| 21:22:04 | zingcha | guys, any pointers on how to make a voice file for a different language ? |
| 21:22:23 | LaurentG | zingcha: the mailing list is a good one ;) |
| 21:22:38 | zingcha | so is there no HOW TO as of now ? |
| 21:26:42 | LaurentG | zingcha: I'm not sure there is one, I seem to recall that the only explanations about this process were given on the mailing list |
| 21:26:58 | LaurentG | that's why i'm pointing you to it ;) |
| 21:27:51 | zingcha | :) |
| 21:27:57 | zingcha | Thanks LaurentG |
| 21:28:06 | LaurentG | zingcha: moreover, if you can find the time to write one, you'll end up in the credits ;) |
| 21:28:29 | zingcha | Lovely ! |
| 21:33:02 | DHS | Am I mis-remembering where to put ajbrec.ajz?? I put it in the root of the drive, no? |
| 21:33:21 | DHS | it seems not to load when I power up my recorder |
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| 21:37:25 | LaurentG | zingcha: I had a look at it, and it seems the details of voice file creation are quite scattered amongst many mails of the mailing list |
| 21:38:44 | LaurentG | zingcha: there's some bit of searching/collecting to be done in order to have the whole thing clearly exposed, I guess [IDC]Dragon would answer questions about it if asked :) |
| 21:39:23 | DHS | oops - can that question. You have to "run" the ajbrec.ajz file. I foolishly thought it would autoload on bootup |
| 21:39:42 | DHS | I've loaded it and it works fine now. My first patch works! (dumb though it is). |
| 21:39:56 | zingcha | I will look at it LaurentG. Thanks a lot. Me gtg. Will be back later |
| 21:40:06 | LaurentG | zingcha: good luck ;) |
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| 21:50:03 | amiconn | Hi Jörg |
| 21:50:21 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi Jens |
| 21:50:42 | [IDC]Dragon | you already found "your" timer... |
| 21:51:07 | amiconn | Yes, and I implemented my small tweak from grayscale.c |
| 21:51:27 | [IDC]Dragon | you mean the and? |
| 21:51:35 | amiconn | yup |
| 21:51:38 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
| 21:52:23 | [IDC]Dragon | I changed mandelbrot to use it, leaving your framework patch to you |
| 21:53:07 | amiconn | However, your timer registration function has a drawback: It allows to register a timer even if there is one registered already. Only the last registered one does work, and there is no error return. |
| 21:53:42 | [IDC]Dragon | I wasn''t going for multiple timers |
| 21:54:04 | [IDC]Dragon | and like this, you can just overwrite the handler |
| 21:54:25 | [IDC]Dragon | useful for my Alpine plugin, I think. |
| 21:54:42 | amiconn | Not that it would be necessary either, but imo if there is a registered timer and you try to register another one without unregistering the first, it should return an error instead. |
| 21:54:55 | [IDC]Dragon | kiss |
| 21:55:23 | LaurentG | hi Dragon |
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| 21:55:34 | [IDC]Dragon | 'evening! |
| 21:55:52 | DHS | Please confirm: in order for boot loader to load alternate image, it must be RENAMED |
| 21:57:01 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Did you have a look at my MakeVoices.vbs script? |
| 21:57:11 | [IDC]Dragon | is it public? |
| 21:57:21 | [IDC]Dragon | no I didn't. |
| 21:58:23 | amiconn | Look at http://arnold-j.bei.t-online.de/Rockbox/ for the script, the latest voices and my modifications to your wavtrim.c |
| 21:59:07 | [IDC]Dragon | so this time you uploaded it before deleting you local copy? |
| 21:59:20 | amiconn | ;-/ |
| 21:59:35 | [IDC]Dragon | sorry |
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| 22:00:32 | amiconn | I did also announce it on the ml, but apart from Rocker nobody responded (yet). |
| 22:01:07 | [IDC]Dragon | sorry again :-| |
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| 22:02:23 | DHS | does the rockbox sdk not include uclpack? I get a uclpack not found on my makes |
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| 22:02:58 | uski | anyone knows if there is one UART transmit pin free on a vanilla archos recorder ? |
| 22:03:05 | LaurentG | I guess I'm going to be really happy to crack this <censured> compression scheme |
| 22:03:21 | Strath | laurent? |
| 22:03:31 | [IDC]Dragon | DHS: you can get uclpack from my flash pack |
| 22:03:35 | Strath | long time no see? |
| 22:04:05 | LaurentG | 'got 50% of it, and I guess the last 50% are going to be really joyful to get over ;) |
| 22:04:17 | [IDC]Dragon | uski: TX1 is free, not connected (unless you made the serial mod) |
| 22:04:27 | LaurentG | Strath: true, I didn't come for some time |
| 22:04:30 | uski | ok that's perfect :) thx |
| 22:04:52 | Strath | if you're talking about gmini, check http://www.donat.org/michael/archos |
| 22:05:04 | [IDC]Dragon | uski: you can use the remote pin as an output, too, see my latest posting |
| 22:05:04 | DHS | dragon: can you provide a pointer or url? |
| 22:05:15 | Strath | iv'e go an AOS tool and TCC730 disassembler posted |
| 22:05:30 | LaurentG | Strath: ??? |
| 22:05:42 | LaurentG | where ? |
| 22:05:52 | Strath | my website |
| 22:05:53 | [IDC]Dragon | DHS: http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash/ |
| 22:06:07 | [IDC]Dragon | in any of the zip's |
| 22:06:20 | Strath | that work for you? :) |
| 22:06:47 | [IDC]Dragon | what's the status on the Gmini? |
| 22:07:07 | Strath | starting work on the emu |
| 22:07:16 | * | LaurentG gets crazy |
| 22:07:32 | LaurentG | Strath: may I kill you please ? ;) |
| 22:07:37 | Strath | the decrypter/decompresser is done, the CPU disassembler is done, |
| 22:07:47 | [IDC]Dragon | can you execute own code on the box? |
| 22:07:49 | LaurentG | Strath: why didn't you post this on the list ? |
| 22:07:56 | Strath | heh |
| 22:08:01 | Strath | cause |
| 22:08:10 | Strath | i'm always in here |
| 22:08:11 | LaurentG | that would have spared me quite some hours |
| 22:08:12 | DHS | Dragon: I'll try your site. (can't seem to copy from mIRC, so I'll have to type the URL... :-( |
| 22:08:17 | Strath | heh |
| 22:08:30 | Strath | only took me three full days |
| 22:08:47 | LaurentG | that's about the time I spent |
| 22:08:47 | uski | [IDC]Dragon: yes but i want to connect the archos to a serial device, which has both a TX and a RX pin |
| 22:08:53 | McBill | DHS: right click the url and click copy shortcut |
| 22:09:04 | Strath | one to rewrite the aos tool, two to write the disassembler from scratch |
| 22:09:07 | uski | [IDC]Dragon: so, no bidirectionnal wire, and i don't want to add external components |
| 22:09:30 | LaurentG | Strath: where did you get the assembly language specs ? |
| 22:09:38 | Strath | you should stop in here more often laurent :P |
| 22:10:07 | Strath | check out the documentation section of my site |
| 22:10:21 | LaurentG | Strath: you should post on the mailing list more often too ;) I've received a bunch of emails of people interested about the gmini |
| 22:10:33 | [IDC]Dragon | Strath: url? |
| 22:10:37 | Strath | i don't care for email |
| 22:10:41 | DHS | Dragon: after a type or two, I got there. is it in flash_v2.zip? |
| 22:10:42 | [IDC]Dragon | (just curious) |
| 22:10:46 | Strath | http://www.donat.org/michael/archos |
| 22:11:44 | [IDC]Dragon | DHS: for example, yes. |
| 22:12:05 | LaurentG | Strath: it's not just about email, it's about informing the most people :) |
| 22:12:27 | DHS | McBill: thanks, I was fooled by the way it de-selected before I could do a regular ctl-c |
| 22:12:30 | Strath | well.... this channel is indexed by google :P |
| 22:12:44 | McBill | DHS: you welcome |
| 22:12:49 | Strath | and so is my webpage |
| 22:12:59 | [IDC]Dragon | Strath: so, what's the magic xor key coming out? |
| 22:13:11 | Strath | i can't tell you :P |
| 22:13:30 | McBill | does anyone know if there are some tools/enhancement for my Jukebox Multimedia? |
| 22:13:32 | LaurentG | Strath: then, how do you explain, I got emails about the gmini and you didn't ? I'm not so sexy to naturally attract people ;) |
| 22:13:36 | Strath | but the code determines it (thanks dogger, linusN) |
| 22:14:20 | Strath | i don't know...laurent, i guess i just keep a low profile |
| 22:14:55 | Strath | even though my site has been mentioned in about 6 message boards, (3 in french) |
| 22:15:13 | * | McBill is looking hard for more info/sites about the JBM20 |
| 22:15:19 | DHS | Dragon: Do I use the cygwin copies of uclpack and descramble.exe, or the win32 copies, or does it matter? |
| 22:15:32 | LaurentG | Strath: do you mind if I post about your progresses on the ML ? ;) |
| 22:15:40 | [IDC]Dragon | DHS: what do you use to compile? |
| 22:15:46 | Strath | you do what you will :) |
| 22:15:59 | Strath | which mailing list btw? |
| 22:16:01 | LaurentG | Strath: but you should really do it, that would really launch the gmini |
| 22:16:23 | LaurentG | http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox |
| 22:16:43 | DHS | Dragon: I use make under... whatsis name... ah yes... BASH |
| 22:17:05 | LaurentG | Strath: when I had looked for the assembly language specs, I had found nothing, when did you find those ? |
| 22:17:09 | Strath | i've been feeling quite alone and unmotivated in my gmini work, cause noone (around here) seems interested ;/ |
| 22:17:28 | Strath | back in late january |
| 22:17:56 | LaurentG | Strath: well, I guess you can only blame yourself, there are at least 3 or 4 people who wrote me to know where I was |
| 22:18:08 | Strath | heh |
| 22:18:11 | Strath | oy... |
| 22:18:24 | LaurentG | Strath: I was quite "scared" about the disassembly part, so the specs are really good news |
| 22:18:40 | Strath | well, a week ago there wouldn't have been anything to post about.. |
| 22:18:51 | * | Strath had a good week |
| 22:19:54 | Strath | you could do the verification of the disassembly tool output if ya want |
| 22:20:25 | LaurentG | Strath: so, about the compression scheme, are we ok about this -> one coding byte, each 1 bit means "uncompressed bytes", each 0 bit means "2 bytes compression code", the 4 low order bits of it giving the number of uncompressed bytes minus 3 ? |
| 22:21:04 | LaurentG | Strath: be sure I will in a few seconds |
| 22:21:13 | [IDC]Dragon | dhs: bash sounds like you use cygwin? |
| 22:21:13 | Strath | heh |
| 22:21:17 | DHS | Dragon: have I answered you question about what I use to compile OK? |
| 22:21:36 | Strath | 2 bytes (offset, count) |
| 22:21:59 | Strath | offset is + 18 (cause of the first window) |
| 22:22:28 | LaurentG | how many bits for count ? 4 I guess no ? |
| 22:22:32 | Strath | low order ya... |
| 22:22:46 | Strath | one sec.. that was four days ago... |
| 22:22:54 | Strath | (checking code ) |
| 22:22:55 | LaurentG | great, I was on the right track at least ;) all is not lost ;) |
| 22:23:40 | Strath | u32 offset = (di & 0xfffff000) + 18 + |
| 22:23:42 | Strath | ((u32)src[si] | (((u32)src[si+1] & 0xf0) << 4)); |
| 22:23:43 | Strath | u8 count = (src[si+1] & 0x0f) + 3; |
| 22:24:00 | LaurentG | ok, so I was right toot |
| 22:24:02 | LaurentG | too |
| 22:24:22 | LaurentG | you're lucky you're not right next to me or I'll make you eat your keyboard ;) |
| 22:24:30 | Strath | heh |
| 22:24:50 | LaurentG | with hot peppers |
| 22:24:50 | Strath | i've been here.. |
| 22:25:27 | Strath | at least mines cordless :) |
| 22:25:31 | LaurentG | :) |
| 22:25:55 | LaurentG | good, all in all, this is really good news |
| 22:26:11 | Strath | *snicker* |
| 22:26:30 | DHS | Well, I put uclpack.exe in both C:\Cygwin\home\rockbox\test\tools and C:\Cygwin\bin, but I still get "uclpack: not found" errors |
| 22:26:47 | LaurentG | in a few minutes, the need to murder you violently will have passed and I'll be able to try your tools ;) |
| 22:27:14 | LaurentG | Strath: please, swear that you'll subscribe to the maling list ;) |
| 22:27:36 | Strath | just hit the button |
| 22:27:43 | Strath | (i did) |
| 22:29:10 | LaurentG | great :) |
| 22:29:33 | LaurentG | aos.c does not compile (can't find io.h) |
| 22:29:56 | Strath | ? |
| 22:30:18 | Strath | there is no aos.c |
| 22:30:42 | Strath | and io.h is a system include |
| 22:31:55 | LaurentG | why doesn't gcc find it ? |
| 22:31:58 | LaurentG | I wonder... |
| 22:32:14 | LaurentG | I meant aostool.C |
| 22:32:16 | LaurentG | sorry |
| 22:32:24 | Strath | i've compiled under cygwin, and borland builder |
| 22:32:29 | McBill | any plans for alternate firmware for jukebox multimedia 20? |
| 22:33:29 | LaurentG | got it -> find /usr/include/ -name io.h |
| 22:33:29 | LaurentG | /usr/include/sys/io.h |
| 22:33:29 | LaurentG | /usr/include/asm/io.h |
| 22:33:30 | diddystar5 | McBill, doubt it |
| 22:33:39 | LaurentG | you bad boy ;) |
| 22:33:59 | McBill | :( |
| 22:34:23 | LaurentG | McBill: oops sorry, I was talking to Strath |
| 22:34:43 | McBill | LaurentG : np |
| 22:35:18 | LaurentG | Strath: ok, you're under windows I see, no O_BINARY under linux :) |
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| 22:36:56 | Strath | heh |
| 22:37:34 | Strath | bitch bitch bitch, it's a wonder why I release anything :P |
| 22:38:08 | Strath | it's gpl, send me a patch :) |
| 22:38:20 | Strath | btw, i posted |
| 22:38:27 | Strath | (i think) |
| 22:38:35 | LaurentG | sure :) |
| 22:40:13 | [IDC]Dragon | DHS: it needs to be in the path. I e.g. placed it next to the SH compiler. |
| 22:40:24 | [IDC]Dragon | (sorry for being afk) |
| 22:40:54 | Strath | so, do *you* think i should write write the emu in C or C++? |
| 22:41:21 | LaurentG | Strath: you should also rename your file to .cpp, since gcc compiles in c mode by default, which causes error when encountering variables declarations in the middle of a function |
| 22:41:48 | Strath | gcc under cygwin doesn't mind |
| 22:41:50 | LaurentG | Strath: I'd use c++ |
| 22:42:18 | Strath | and is intended to be C, however it'd been a while |
| 22:43:17 | LaurentG | Strath: I guess gcc/cygwin compiles to c++ by default, do you use a makefile or just gcc -o aostool aostool.c ? |
| 22:43:39 | Strath | gcc -o aostool aostool.c |
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| 22:43:59 | LaurentG | strange |
| 22:44:11 | Strath | lemme doubt check |
| 22:44:20 | Strath | er, double |
| 22:44:32 | Strath | (heh.. same thing) |
| 22:44:41 | LaurentG | I was going to say the same ;) |
| 22:45:02 | * | McBill wonders if he can port his game to Archos MM? |
| 22:46:39 | LaurentG | Strath: your code definitely is c++ : you are using consts |
| 22:46:56 | Strath | root@foxturd:/cygdrive/d/AOSAnalyzer/code/working/aostool$ gcc -Wall -o aostool aostool.c |
| 22:46:58 | Strath | root@foxturd:/cygdrive/d/AOSAnalyzer/code/working/aostool$ |
| 22:47:07 | LaurentG | strange |
| 22:47:57 | Strath | gcc (GCC) 3.3.1 (cygming special) |
| 22:48:23 | Strath | gcc −−version |
| 22:49:08 | LaurentG | ah ok, 3.3.1 |
| 22:49:36 | Strath | ok, i got my message back from the mailing list |
| 22:50:43 | uski | can GCC compile code for the gmini processor ? |
| 22:50:46 | Strath | there is also the todo comment at the top of the file... |
| 22:50:53 | uski | i.e. was GCC ported for this µC ? |
| 22:50:59 | Strath | uski:nope! |
| 22:51:16 | Strath | not yet... how ever it is planned |
| 22:51:21 | uski | do you have an high level compiler for thisµC ? or will you have to program everything in assembler ? |
| 22:51:21 | uski | ok |
| 22:51:27 | LaurentG | uski: but it's possible since the specs are available |
| 22:51:32 | Strath | heh |
| 22:51:38 | * | Strath bows :P |
| 22:51:59 | uski | interesting ;) |
| 22:52:51 | LaurentG | Strath: do you mind if I change most of your char * into u8 * ? |
| 22:53:03 | Strath | uh... |
| 22:53:13 | LaurentG | cause this triggers c++ errors with gcc 2.95 |
| 22:53:29 | Strath | for c strings i left it as char *, everything else should be u8* |
| 22:53:32 | McBill | catch you l8r guys |
| 22:53:35 | DHS | Dragon, OK got it. I've UCL'd now and flashed OK. I'm still unsure of when the Rockbox boot grabs a file on bootup, if at all. |
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| 22:53:57 | [IDC]Dragon | DHS: not if flashed |
| 22:54:02 | LaurentG | Strath: in a few cases, you have functions which deal with char* but treat them as u8* : see lu32 |
| 22:54:25 | LaurentG | no major problems but it's seen as errors by gcc 2.95.4 |
| 22:54:26 | Strath | send me a patch :P |
| 22:54:36 | LaurentG | I'm working on it ;) |
| 22:54:41 | Strath | j/k |
| 22:54:51 | [IDC]Dragon | DHS: or more precisely: Archos s/w loads .ajz, Rockbox doesn't |
| 22:54:54 | DHS | Dragon, AH HA! Now I see. Once flashed, you have to ROLO the .ajz or .ucl to get a different version. |
| 22:55:04 | Strath | i wouldn't apply one sent by you anyways :) |
| 22:55:18 | [IDC]Dragon | the way to update is to "play" a ucl |
| 22:55:50 | DHS | Dragon, that wasn't clear to me from the documentation. Apparently, it only the Archos boot that automaticly grabs a file on bootup. |
| 22:55:56 | Strath | i felt it better to get the code out there as soon as it worked |
| 22:56:31 | Strath | rather than ensuring portability to *every* architecture |
| 22:56:42 | [IDC]Dragon | if you can flash, such behaviour from Rockbox would be retarded |
| 22:56:59 | Strath | like that fad OS, linux... |
| 22:59:19 | Strath | btw, i'm just giving ya shit... of course I welcome input from other developers, I've been using linux for 7 years, it ain't going away :) |
| 22:59:27 | Strath | be back in 10 |
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| 23:00:11 | DHS | Dragon, AND, now my make is making a new .ucl file automatically. Looks like I got uclpack into an OK directory! |
| 23:00:24 | [IDC]Dragon | congrats! |
| 23:00:42 | LaurentG | Strath: you were right ! |
| 23:01:09 | LaurentG | ok, I just added a few consts and made some casts |
| 23:01:14 | LaurentG | everything compiles just fine now |
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| 23:06:43 | [IDC]Dragon | goodnight! |
| 23:06:51 | | Quit [IDC]Dragon () |
| 23:08:00 | LaurentG | Strath: this works as a charm ! |
| 23:08:21 | LaurentG | Strath: replied to your mail on the list too ;) |
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| 23:09:53 | Strath | seems about a six minute delay on the list |
| 23:10:32 | LaurentG | Strath: it varies a lot, sometimes it's 20 |
| 23:10:47 | Strath | see... thats why i use IRC |
| 23:11:09 | LaurentG | :) |
| 23:12:06 | Strath | i have no patience |
| 23:12:39 | LaurentG | the biggest interest of the mailing list is the persistence, on irc, when the guy's not here you're fucked |
| 23:12:46 | Strath | btw, have ya looked at the disasmTCC730 code yet? |
| 23:12:51 | LaurentG | both are complementary |
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| 23:13:24 | Strath | i use my page for persistance |
| 23:13:26 | LaurentG | not yet, i'm still looking at aostool's output |
| 23:13:52 | LaurentG | Strath: sure, it's a repository, but people need to check it, whereas mail comes to them by itself |
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| 23:13:56 | Strath | hrm.. with that name do you see aos tool, or ao stool? |
| 23:14:13 | LaurentG | huh ? |
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| 23:14:23 | Strath | heh |
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| 23:15:22 | Strath | "aos tool" or "ao stool" at a glance, even though I wrote it, i still see "ao stool" |
| 23:15:48 | LaurentG | i see "aos tool" |
| 23:15:51 | amiconn | LaurentG: On irc, if both you and the person you want have registered nicks, you can leave messages |
| 23:16:02 | Strath | hrm... :) |
| 23:16:29 | LaurentG | what's a stool ? ;) |
| 23:16:46 | Strath | ya... i always get sad when nickserv tells me i have no messages :) |
| 23:17:30 | Strath | stool: crap, turd, shit, etc... (sometimes, a backless chair) |
| 23:17:47 | amiconn | lol |
| 23:18:03 | LaurentG | :) |
| 23:18:36 | Strath | so... being an archos file format.... ;) |
| 23:19:06 | Strath | maybe it's just me .... |
| 23:19:49 | LaurentG | geez, diff -helps spans two thousand pages |
| 23:20:11 | Strath | list: awh.... such a gushing review, thanks Laurent :) |
| 23:20:37 | Strath | just send mee a diff -u old new |
| 23:21:23 | Strath | heh... thanks amiconn :) |
| 23:22:44 | LaurentG | it's not going to be that simple because of end of lines :) |
| 23:22:51 | LaurentG | need to check diff's help |
| 23:23:05 | Strath | use d2u and u2d |
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| 23:26:28 | LaurentG | -u2d ? |
| 23:26:33 | Strath | heh |
| 23:26:43 | LaurentG | no way, it considers files as completely different |
| 23:26:50 | Strath | type 'which d2u' |
| 23:26:56 | LaurentG | LOL |
| 23:27:06 | * | LaurentG slams his head against the wall |
| 23:27:15 | Strath | *snicker* |
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| 23:28:34 | LaurentG | haven't them |
| 23:28:52 | Strath | ok, use tr, or dd |
| 23:31:25 | LaurentG | found the perl script |
| 23:32:09 | Strath | you been using linux a while? |
| 23:32:59 | Strath | i though i had unix style line terminators in the tar.gz, is that not so? |
| 23:34:02 | Strath | ya, it's unix style |
| 23:34:10 | Strath | so whats the prob? |
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| 23:34:32 | LaurentG | I'm wondering |
| 23:35:46 | Strath | heh |
| 23:36:06 | Strath | laurent making asumptions? :) |
| 23:36:23 | LaurentG | i'm messed everything ;) |
| 23:36:30 | LaurentG | s/'m/ |
| 23:37:21 | Strath | see.. and thats why *I* realesd code, and you were still figuring out the formats |
| 23:37:30 | Strath | pbth :P |
| 23:38:20 | Strath | btw... a simple CR count of the disasmTCC730 code yields ~2300 lines ;) |
| 23:38:44 | LaurentG | ahhhhh much better |
| 23:39:01 | LaurentG | Strath: you're probably right ;) |
| 23:39:27 | LaurentG | 2300 lines ??? |
| 23:39:29 | LaurentG | only ? |
| 23:40:16 | Strath | well... i only spent two days on it |
| 23:40:46 | LaurentG | ah wait, you mean 2300 lines for the disassembler ? not the disassembled firmware ? |
| 23:40:54 | Strath | heh |
| 23:40:57 | Strath | ya... |
| 23:41:07 | * | LaurentG breathes again |
| 23:41:20 | Strath | a blind disasm of the firmware is an 8 MB text file |
| 23:41:41 | | Quit uski ("Fermeture du client") |
| 23:41:52 | Strath | (which includes disasming the data as well ) |
| 23:41:59 | Strath | heh |
| 23:43:13 | LaurentG | you should check your mail, in case I managed by chance to send you the file ;) |
| 23:43:15 | Strath | how much traffic does the list get per day? |
| 23:43:20 | LaurentG | Strath: quite a lot |
| 23:43:26 | LaurentG | Strath: about 100 messages |
| 23:43:47 | LaurentG | can be as low as 10 and as as high as 100 |
| 23:43:51 | Strath | ok... good thing i've got a 1GB quota |
| 23:44:19 | Strath | (not my server, hosting company) |
| 23:45:50 | amiconn | Strath: ml traffic is 30..50 msgs/day on average, and the mails are ~4..5 KB each (max I've seens was ~30 KB) |
| 23:46:10 | amiconn | s/seens/seen/ |
| 23:46:46 | Strath | ya, i'm just still whining to laurent about being forced to join the mailing list :P |
| 23:48:01 | LaurentG | any chance you write a makefile for the disassembler ? ;) |
| 23:48:14 | LaurentG | (yes i'm lazy) ;) |
| 23:48:16 | Strath | heh |
| 23:48:23 | Strath | same here :) |
| 23:48:37 | Strath | which is why a hadn't |
| 23:54:58 | LaurentG | want one ? wrote one ;) |
| 23:55:14 | LaurentG | did you receive the diff file ? |
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| 23:57:02 | Strath | ya |
| 23:57:07 | Strath | i got it... |
| 23:57:15 | LaurentG | looks like it's valid ? |
| 23:57:28 | Strath | looks like it |
| 23:57:41 | LaurentG | and still compiles on your machine ? |
| 23:58:53 | Strath | havn't tried yet |
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