#rockbox 2004-05-10

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#rockbox log for 2004-05-10

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01:35:35	Strath	AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:36:02	midk	i love you
01:36:05	midk	what's up?
01:36:06	Strath	stupid farkin typos in this datasheet
01:36:12	midk	mm?
01:36:22	midk	you made
01:36:24	midk	or they did?
01:36:52	Strath	no.. distributed by samsung
01:37:00	midk	they messed up?
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01:37:19	midk	booh
01:37:33	Strath	looks like the guy writing it got a little carried away with the copy& paste
01:37:40	midk	LOL
01:37:48	midk	are you serious
01:37:54	midk	they actually messed up?
01:38:04	midk	well what's it on?
01:38:25	Strath	hell, one whole instructions details page is a verbatim copy of an unrelated instruction with different arguments
01:38:51	midk	hahaha
01:38:55	midk	sry strathy
01:39:06	Strath	grrrr!
01:39:38	midk	sorry
01:39:48	midk	do you want me to give you a massagE?
01:40:16	Strath	one instruction just plain doesn't have a details page
01:40:28	midk	but um yah ok
01:40:59	Strath	lists of which registers are affected... wrong!
01:41:08	Strath	FUCKERS
01:41:15	Strath	ok... i feel better
01:41:17	midk	calm DOWN STRATH
01:41:22	midk	i will help you
01:41:25	Strath	heh
01:42:09	Strath	ok... gonna write some hatemail to samsungs documentation dept. ?
01:42:18	midk	want me to?
01:42:21	Strath	bbi10
01:42:23	midk	i may be able to do a few per minute
01:42:24	Strath	nah
01:43:51	diddystar5	bye everyone i love you all :)
01:43:57	midk	i love you dids
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02:06:54	midk	TOPS
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03:22:02	mooman	hey
03:22:44	mooman	anyone here#?
03:22:57	midk	YES
03:22:58	midk	YES!
03:23:02	midk	OYAH
03:23:04	midk	OYAH OYAHHHHHHHHH
03:25:27	mooman	O_o
03:25:41	mooman	u know anything about jukebox fm recorders corrupting with windows xp ?
03:26:05	midk	corrupting?
03:26:08	mooman	every time i use mine on windows xp after a couple of uses it starts giving a "parameter incorrect error"
03:26:13	mooman	in windows ME its fine
03:26:20	midk	hmm
03:26:26	midk	is your cable ok? lol
03:26:31	mooman	a simple format and it works for a short amount of time in windows XP
03:26:35	mooman	yea cable is fine
03:26:37	mooman	its the player
03:26:44	mooman	i emailed the company i bought it from
03:26:56	mooman	and they said its incompatable with windows xp or some shit
03:26:58	midk	if it works on ME, no, it is not (Should not be at least) the player
03:27:02	mooman	but it def aint
03:27:06	midk	no, it's compatible
03:27:15	mooman	cos it says compatable in manual
03:27:22	mooman	maybe older firmware corrupts when used with windows xp
03:27:23	mooman	?
03:27:35	midk	shouldn't be
03:28:33	mooman	i wonder why it is happy with windows me though so weird O_o
03:28:53	mooman	not much use when i have windows xp installed on my comps i use mainly ...
03:29:14	midk	are your usb drivers up to date?
03:29:40	mooman	well it wont allow you to install it with windows xp
03:29:45	mooman	btw its happened with 4 dif comps
03:29:51	midk	oh wow
03:30:01	midk	different models/makes?
03:30:01	mooman	so it aint the computer either ^_^
03:30:06	mooman	yea
03:30:13	midk	and it works the first few times?
03:30:32	mooman	well 2 p4's with asus p4p800 mobos , a p3 laptop , an a64 with a gigabyte board
03:30:43	midk	hmm
03:30:45	mooman	it works as long as i format it with windows ME first
03:30:49	midk	are you Safely Removing it?
03:30:53	mooman	for first few tries
03:31:09	mooman	no i dont usually do that .....
03:31:15	midk	same! lol
03:31:19	mooman	maybe cause of it ?
03:31:22	midk	i just rip the cord out
03:31:25	midk	it's a possibility
03:31:28	mooman	hehe
03:31:33	midk	i'm just impatient :)
03:31:50	midk	when i code a new fancy gfx intro i want to try it NOW
03:35:29	mooman	hehe
03:35:45	mooman	ive had nothing but problems with my fm recorder 20 :(
03:35:56	midk	hmm it's typically a good box
03:38:13	mooman	hmm im suprised , first time ive tried to stream videos through winamp , my connection cant normally handle anything properly ( 128k ISDN ) and its happy with one channel
03:38:15	mooman	which is cool
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03:39:30	arspy87	yo yo yo
03:39:40	midk	yay arry
03:39:43	mooman	hey
03:39:56	arspy87	what's up midk and mooman
03:40:05	midk	mooman trouble with fm rec
03:41:14	mooman	:(
03:42:23	kaboofa	bleh
03:42:30	midk	KABOOFA
03:42:31	kaboofa	anyone have a dns server I can use?
03:42:37	kaboofa	all I have to work with is my hosts file :\|
03:42:42	midk	kaboofa do you have an archos
03:42:47	kaboofa	Yes
03:42:50	kaboofa	jukebox recored 15
03:42:51	kaboofa	brb
03:42:54	midk	k
03:43:08	mooman	do you ever have any problems with windows xp kaboofa?
03:44:55	kaboofa	right now
03:44:58	kaboofa	just DNS
03:45:06	kaboofa	dns is REALLY broken right now
03:45:19	kaboofa	i have tried like 20 different servers
03:45:22	mooman	do you ever get the error "parameter incorrect"?
03:45:26	mooman	on ur jukebox
03:45:28	kaboofa	genuity, prodigy, blah blah
03:45:30	kaboofa	mooman: yeah
03:45:35	kaboofa	comcast
03:45:37	kaboofa	sbc
03:45:40	kaboofa	alltel
03:45:46	mooman	when kaboofa?
03:46:20	kaboofa	when i try to run some plugins on my archos
03:47:00	mooman	plugins like ?
04:00
04:04:35	mooman	:o
04:05:50	midk	:D
04:10:35	kaboofa	eh
04:10:39	kaboofa	stuff that doesn't work
04:10:58	kaboofa	going to flash RB for the first time soon
04:11:07	midk	kaboofa good idea
04:11:12	midk	it boots in like 3 seconds
04:11:25	kaboofa	any precautions I should take first?
04:13:46	midk	mm make sure your batteries are ok
04:13:49	midk	that's about all
04:13:52	midk	DO IT DO IT DO IT
04:14:00	kaboofa	like, how filled should they bey
04:14:01	kaboofa	*be
04:14:14	kaboofa	and can I have the charger in?
04:14:16	midk	at least, like 50%
04:14:19	midk	yes, good idea.
04:14:36	kaboofa	alright
04:14:52	midk	gonna do it now?
04:14:54	kaboofa	yeah
04:14:58	midk	NOW? YAYYY
04:14:59	kaboofa	ok
04:15:04	kaboofa	so i'm going to compile my rockbox
04:15:06	midk	ROOT ROOT ROOT FOR KABOOFER!
04:15:23	kaboofa	s/kaboofer/kaboofa/
04:15:34	midk	i like kaboofer
04:15:47	midk	its like
04:15:48	midk	KABOOOOOOF
04:15:49	kaboofa	roses are red
04:15:52	midk	....... er.
04:15:55	kaboofa	violets are blue
04:16:02	midk	kaboofer is cool
04:16:03	kaboofa	i'll kill you with a frigging rake
04:16:06	midk	and yeah he is cool
04:16:28	kaboofa	cp *.rock /juke/.rockbox/rocks/
04:16:29	kaboofa	eh
04:16:32	kaboofa	sup, wrong window?
04:16:49	midk	? lol
04:17:27	midk	roses can sometimes be yellow.
04:17:38	kaboofa	yes
04:17:39	kaboofa	or black
04:18:20	midk	RED BLUE YELLOW ORANGE ROXBOX PINK SUNDAY!
04:18:34	kaboofa	right
04:20:06	kaboofa	LOL!
04:20:10	midk	?
04:20:12	kaboofa	there is a guy named Andy Anderson
04:20:13	kaboofa	AHAHAHA
04:20:16	kaboofa	he's a detective
04:20:17	kaboofa	hahaha
04:20:18	kaboofa	that's great
04:20:19	midk	lol what
04:20:23	midk	HAHA
04:20:25	kaboofa	ok
04:20:28	kaboofa	how do i flash
04:20:29	kaboofa	wait
04:20:31	kaboofa	i'll rtfm
04:20:45	midk	i can help
04:20:52	kaboofa	i don't have firmware_rec.bin
04:20:53	midk	if you need it
04:20:56	kaboofa	but I have rovkbox.bin
04:20:57	kaboofa	*rockbox
04:21:18	midk	you need the flash pack
04:21:24	kaboofa	ok?
04:21:40	midk	it is listed in the manual.
04:22:18	kaboofa	ooh
04:22:19	kaboofa	ok
04:26:01	kaboofa	what does the vanilla archos bootloader do that takes so long, anyway?
04:26:23	midk	it sits there quite a few minutes doing nothing
04:26:27	kaboofa	oh
04:26:28	kaboofa	ok
04:26:31	midk	lol
04:27:53	mooman	how can i update the firmware on my jukebox fm recorder 20 last time i tried it didnt work
04:28:44	kaboofa	man
04:28:46	kaboofa	that was a thrill
04:28:59	midk	lol kaboofa
04:29:19	midk	mooman, download a daily build
04:29:30	kaboofa	ok
04:29:42	kaboofa	how do i update to latest?
04:29:47	kaboofa	just run the ajz file?
04:31:38	kaboofa	fuck
04:31:41	kaboofa	fuck
04:31:53	kaboofa	i put my latest build on my jukebox via usb
04:32:11	kaboofa	ooh
04:32:11	kaboofa	nm
04:32:39	midk	kaboofa fast boot?
04:32:50	kaboofa	i freaked out
04:32:54	kaboofa	i thought i fried my jb
04:33:02	midk	lol
04:33:08	midk	LOL
04:34:55	kaboofa	how is that funny?
04:35:05	midk	its funny
04:35:06	midk	fried
04:35:08	midk	a good word
04:35:11	midk	if you think about it
04:35:14	midk	fried LOL
04:35:19	midk	*imagines archos sizzling
04:35:38	arspy87	lol
04:35:44	arspy87	my headphones are frying.
04:35:48	midk	isn't that a good word ars
04:35:50	midk	LOL see
04:35:53	midk	FRYING
04:35:54	midk	sizzling
04:35:55	midk	smoking
04:36:00	midk	popping grease.
04:38:04	kaboofa	i'll pop your face
04:38:18	kaboofa	with a bloody hammer
04:38:18	midk	*runs
04:39:10	kaboofa	OK!
04:39:12	kaboofa	NOW WHAT?!
04:42:21	kaboofa	:D
04:42:24	kaboofa	it has polish!
04:42:29	kaboofa	Yaaaaaaaaaay!
04:42:58	midk	?
04:42:58	midk	k.
04:43:03	kaboofa	language support
04:43:08	midk	woo.
04:45:44	kaboofa	I was thinking
04:45:50	kaboofa	imagine someone that wasn't tech
04:46:00	kaboofa	and they heard "ok, yeah, so you want to flash your box? that's easy"
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06:53:19	midk\|brb	hey bc
06:53:23	bLuecHip	mornin
06:53:33	midk\|brb	i had one suggestion for your othelo update
06:53:42	bLuecHip	oh yes
06:53:43	midk\|brb	which would be making the animations and pauses optional
06:53:54	bLuecHip	yes, been requested by a few now
06:53:57	midk\|brb	or seperate, ie pauses on/off and animations on/off
06:54:14	bLuecHip	considerations are afoot
06:54:14	midk\|brb	i played a game of the original, and i actually enjoyed the fast-paced action
06:54:20	midk\|brb	ACTION PACKED GAMING ACTION
06:54:32	bLuecHip	do you know how to use blit?
06:54:34	midk\|brb	i was moving there and the ai moved there and yeah it was good
06:54:46	midk\|brb	using the gray framework
06:54:48	midk\|brb	not seperately
06:54:56	midk\|brb	not really sure the format it accepts
06:55:31	bLuecHip	what is the stride of a full screenshot
06:55:37	midk\|brb	112
06:55:47	bLuecHip	not 112/8?
06:55:55	midk\|brb	nope
06:55:58	midk\|brb	should be 112
06:55:59	bLuecHip	ok cheers
06:56:03	midk\|brb	np's
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06:57:26	bLuecHip	rewriting the core routines for boundry clipping
06:57:42	midk\|brb	on othelo or klondike?
06:57:48	bLuecHip	generally
06:57:59	midk\|brb	cool
06:58:29	bLuecHip	but this don't work
06:58:29	bLuecHip	#define UPDATE rb->lcd_blit(rb->lcd_framebuffer[0], 0, 0, 112, 64, 112);
06:59:20	midk\|brb	why don't you just make that a function?
06:59:46	bLuecHip	cos i want it as a macro for speed
07:00
07:00:03	bLuecHip	one line functions are slow and memory hungry
07:00:10	midk\|brb	hmm
07:00:25	midk\|brb	does it work IE like
07:00:32	midk\|brb	#define UPDATE rb->lcd_update(); ??
07:00:40	bLuecHip	that works
07:01:07	midk\|brb	uh! hmm
07:01:28	midk\|brb	maybe framebuffer won't for for the pdata.
07:01:32	midk\|brb	work for*
07:02:02	bLuecHip	i thin I will stick with calling lcd_update for now and speak to Jorg when I see him next
07:02:32	midk\|brb	amiconn would probably know as well
07:02:50	bLuecHip	yes, he might at that :)
07:07:44	midk\|brb	oyes.
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07:08:46	midky	bcbc
07:08:58	midky	i love saying that
07:09:00	midky	bee see bee see!
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07:09:42	midky	bye c0utta
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07:10:48	arspy87	evenin'
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07:10:55	arspy87	err... good morning, where i'm from
07:11:01	arspy87	hey bLuecHip :-P
07:11:03	bLuecHip	mornin'
07:11:12	bLuecHip	hows the ars py/
07:11:13	bLuecHip	?
07:11:19	arspy87	good
07:11:23	arspy87	but insomniac
07:11:24	midky	ars PIE
07:11:25	bLuecHip	excellent
07:11:32	bLuecHip	you too huh?
07:11:40	arspy87	since it's like... 1:15 here
07:11:41	arspy87	am
07:11:47	bLuecHip	06:11 here
07:12:04	arspy87	ah
07:12:41	midky	LMAO
07:12:47	midky	the camera cord is all chewed up
07:12:53	midky	*looks toward cat
07:13:04	arspy87	hah
07:13:11	arspy87	i'm just... revamping the css on my website
07:13:17	midky	ann..ihilated.
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07:15:31	arspy87	what's bLuecHip up to?
07:15:43	bLuecHip	pointless mega demo
07:15:50	midk	its COOL ars
07:15:52	arspy87	ah, interesting
07:15:52	midk	very very cool
07:15:54	bLuecHip	testing new graphics routines
07:19:02	arspy87	hah, A Mighty Wind was sucha funny video
07:19:02	arspy87	movie*
07:19:38	bLuecHip	kung pow ;)
07:21:12	arspy87	i saw that
07:21:17	arspy87	odd movie, but funny
07:27:03	arspy87	blindly trying to figure out hex values... ugh
07:27:07	midk	YAY
07:27:12	bLuecHip	need help?
07:27:14	midk	hex fun
07:27:17	midk	!!! OYES
07:27:17	arspy87	hmm
07:27:28	arspy87	i have some light blue color, but i want to make it more... muted
07:27:35	arspy87	#0088bb
07:28:08	bLuecHip	lower either the middle value or all of them (my guess)
07:28:16	bLuecHip	not middle
07:28:18	bLuecHip	last
07:28:24	midk	try like #117799
07:28:47	arspy87	or make it more transparent-looking
07:28:51	arspy87	thanks :-)
07:29:05	midk	try ee try ee
07:29:15	arspy87	??
07:29:19	bLuecHip	or use PSP colour picker :)
07:29:29	midk	try it
07:29:32	midk	dose it work?
07:29:36	arspy87	if i had it lol
07:30:07	midk	ars try try try tryyyyyyy
07:30:14	arspy87	try what?
07:30:19	arspy87	117799?
07:30:21	midk	#117799
07:30:30	midk	yessir
07:30:35	arspy87	oooh
07:30:35	arspy87	thats close
07:30:42	midk	a bit more muted?
07:31:02	arspy87	got it
07:31:03	arspy87	1177aa
07:31:14	midk	bah i was going to say that lol
07:31:44	arspy87	lol
07:32:00	midk	hey i remember when ar said bah all teh time
07:32:08	arspy87	yeah
07:32:11	arspy87	ive kinda stopped that
07:32:12	arspy87	bah.
07:32:15	midk	"it doesn't work BAH BAH BAH"
07:32:16	midk	yeah you did
07:32:41	arspy87	that's because i was formerly an idiot :-P
07:33:02	midk	lol
07:33:11	bLuecHip	alms for an old ex leper
07:33:33	DBUG	Enqueued KICK bLuecHip
07:33:33	bLuecHip	arms for an old ex leper - LOL
07:33:34	midk	um sure
07:33:51	midk	i still love you bc
07:34:03	bLuecHip	lovely
07:34:16	midk	you don't love me?
07:34:20	midk	that's it; we're through
07:34:25	midk	nice use of a semicolon btw.
07:34:29	midk	wow i like that
07:34:30	arspy87	yup.
07:34:33	midk	that's it; we're through.
07:34:35	midk	WOW GOOD
07:34:49	arspy87	i wonder if i can make an all-nighter
07:35:12	midk	YES
07:35:13	bLuecHip	pro plus, jolt & coffee syrup?
07:35:25	midk	motor oil
07:35:28	arspy87	good idea bc
07:35:33	arspy87	coffee so far
07:35:34	midk	those guys in the ER won't let you sleep
07:35:45	midk	all teh babies screaming anyways
07:35:47	bLuecHip	sudafed?
07:35:56	bLuecHip	(contains ephedrine)
07:36:31	midk	lol
07:36:41	midk	bc good work
07:36:53	midk	would you like to try my tetris update?
07:38:08	midk	does anybody know about brown & haley's?
07:38:13	arspy87	?
07:38:20	midk	almond roca?
07:38:40	arspy87	nope
07:38:46	midk	you suck
07:38:51	arspy87	:-(
07:38:54	midk	... riosticks!
07:38:59	arspy87	LOL
07:39:19	midk	bc btw i love your UI32 thing
07:39:23	arspy87	?
07:39:24	arspy87	oh
07:39:24	midk	ar don't i say UI32 all teh time
07:39:25	arspy87	bc
07:39:35	arspy87	yeah lol, he's obsessed
07:39:36	midk	i'm always like
07:39:39	midk	UI32!!!
07:39:42	arspy87	UI32 OYAH!
07:39:48	arspy87	(quoted)
07:39:53	midk	wow lol
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07:57:25	midk	sorry no mean to bug i love saying that
07:57:28	midk	bee see be see
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08:08:36	bLuecHip	you gone ars?
08:08:41	midk	he's here
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08:10:02	arspy87	yeah i'm here
08:10:03	arspy87	for another minute
08:10:12	arspy87	bed :-P
08:10:35	bLuecHip	go 2 bed - sleep tite - dont scratch thought your pajamas
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08:10:45	midk	yay linus
08:10:49	LinusN	hola
08:11:00	midk	LOL bc
08:11:14	bLuecHip	Mornin' Mr F
08:11:26	midk	hey linus i had a question about the button repeat rate, was talking to bc about it
08:11:34	midk	is there a way to make the repeat rate faster in plugins?
08:12:07	LinusN	not at present
08:12:35	midk	can it be implemented?
08:12:56	midk	working on a breakout plugin, paddle moves too slow
08:13:14	midk	jumping by even 4 pixels is very jumpy and still isn't fast enough.
08:13:18	LinusN	ic
08:13:39	midk	considered changing the repeat rate to an int but bc figured it wouldn't be accepted
08:13:50	LinusN	bLuecHip: guten tag, Herr Blau
08:14:08	bLuecHip	lol :)
08:14:21	arspy87	well i'm out
08:14:24	arspy87	later guys
08:14:29	bLuecHip	nite ars
08:14:33	midk	nite ar
08:14:44	arspy87	hmm
08:14:47	arspy87	maybe i'll idle this time
08:14:53	midk	*good idea.
08:15:00	midk	arspy87\|zzz?
08:15:07	arspy87	k
08:15:34	LinusN	midk: first of all, the repeat rate is accelerated
08:15:56	midk	right, i just need it accelerated more
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08:16:20	midk	i want it to go from like the left of the screen to the right of the screen in 1 second maximum
08:16:34	midk	yet it would take 5 at least as it is
08:16:40	LinusN	try to changing REPEAT_INTERVAL_FINISH to 1 in button.c
08:16:53	midk	would that be accepted in general though?
08:17:02	LinusN	as a test
08:17:11	midk	okay
08:19:10	midk	okay, testing
08:19:24	midk	wow fast!
08:19:56	midk	yeah that would probably work, although just a bit faster would be optimal
08:20:11	midk	and also the actually yes i'd need even faster
08:20:34	midk	unless that's not possible
08:20:45	midk	in which case i can jump by 2 pixels which is okay
08:23:06	LinusN	midk: try changing POLL_FREQUENCY to HZ/10
08:23:22	midk	alright.
08:23:48	dwihno	\o/
08:23:55	LinusN	hi dwihno
08:24:00	dwihno	Hej hej!
08:24:02	bLuecHip	mornin dwihno
08:24:07	dwihno	Monday, once again :D
08:24:07	dwihno	Wee
08:25:41	midk	linusn: no, it's slower
08:25:48	midk	maybe you meant a larger number like HZ/30?
08:27:22	LinusN	of course, silly me
08:27:38	dwihno	It's monday :D
08:27:47	LinusN	haven't touched that code for ages
08:27:48	midk	would going a bit faster take a lot more cpu?
08:27:54	LinusN	midk: not really
08:28:07	midk	ok, i think HZ/40 would be about perfect
08:28:09	midk	let me double check
08:28:16	midk	assuming it is, what from there?
08:28:41	LinusN	how is that repeat rate working in the dir browser, ff/rew etc?
08:28:50	midk	very fast
08:28:57	midk	probably about 3x as fast
08:29:04	LinusN	ok, so we need a way to set the repeat rate programmatically
08:29:09	midk	but if it helps matters i like it
08:29:10	midk	:)
08:29:25	midk	i think a function is a good idea
08:29:35	midk	set_button_repeat(int poll_freq, ...) etc
08:30:01	LinusN	let me think about that for a while
08:30:17	midk	sure thing
08:30:24	LinusN	breakout...cool
08:30:34	LinusN	grayscale?
08:30:36	midk	yes, utilizing grayscale actually
08:30:37	midk	yup!
08:30:38	bLuecHip	linus - have you any idea why this fails:
08:30:42	LinusN	wowers!
08:30:46	bLuecHip	#define UPDATE rb->lcd_blit(rb->lcd_framebuffer[0], 0, 0, 112, 64, 112);
08:31:08	LinusN	fails?
08:31:24	bLuecHip	does nothing (afaict)
08:31:25	midk	wow cool if you do develop a function for it you should have a global option
08:31:30	midk	i love this high speed scrolling
08:31:43	LinusN	midk: yeah, why not?
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08:32:02	midk	hmm linus, it seems at HZ/40 the buttons seem to stick
08:32:03	LinusN	bLuecHip: how do you use the macro?
08:32:06	midk	if you let off it still goes for a bit
08:32:14	LinusN	midk: in the dir browser?
08:32:18	bLuecHip	in place of rb->update()
08:32:21	midk	yeah, anywhere
08:32:53	LinusN	midk: that's because the repeat rate is faster than the rate at which you read the keys, so they are buffered
08:33:05	LinusN	bLuecHip: you mean:
08:33:10	LinusN	UPDATE;
08:33:11	midk	what's the max we can go then without getting this? HZ/35 ish?
08:33:28	bLuecHip	mk: will depend on the app which is running
08:33:56	bLuecHip	...a fast app will suck up keys quicker
08:34:29	bLuecHip	linus: yes
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08:35:33	midk	well i'd like to go as fast as HZ/50 or even HZ/60 without having this problem... is there a way to clear the buffer after the key is released?
08:36:24	LinusN	bLuecHip: the "height" argument should be in 8-pixel units, i.e 8 instead of 64
08:37:15	amiconn	Hi LinusN!
08:37:17	bLuecHip	still nothing! :(
08:37:25	LinusN	midk: no
08:37:40	midk	ok, i'll live with HZ/30 and += 2
08:37:47	LinusN	bLuecHip: i don't think it has anything to do with the macro
08:37:50	midk	so you're going to consider that function, correct?
08:37:54	LinusN	midk: yes
08:38:13	midk	alright. i'll probably be going fairly soon
08:38:24	bLuecHip	mk, linus: a great all-round oslution would be a fn which will return the current state of the kbd - is that possible?
08:38:38	midk	if you decide could you leave it in the logs so i can check back tomorrow?
08:38:57	bLuecHip	linus: I fell it is more likely to be my (mis)reference to the lcd_framebuffer?
08:39:51	LinusN	don't you get any warnings?
08:40:14	bLuecHip	no, but nor do i if I remove the [] or add a &
08:40:30	LinusN	it should be a * not a &
08:41:27	bLuecHip	rb->lcd_blit(*rb->lcd_framebuffer[0], 0,0, 112,64/8, 112); ??? surely not
08:41:59	LinusN	remove the [0]
08:42:15	bLuecHip	ah yes, that looks better.....
08:42:43	bLuecHip	ARGH!
08:42:45	bLuecHip	lol
08:43:33	bLuecHip	no luck :(
08:44:26	LinusN	so the lcd isn't updated?
08:45:16	bLuecHip	no, but I replace the line with rb->update() and everything is fine
08:45:24	bLuecHip	it doesn't even print garbage!?
08:45:41	LinusN	care to fill me in why you want to use lcd_blit() instead of lcd_update()?
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08:46:05	amiconn	bLuecHip: What do you want to achieve? If I read correctly, rb->lcd_blit(rb->lcd_framebuffer, 0, 0, 112, 8, 112) does exactly the same as rb->lcd_update()
08:46:18	bLuecHip	I'm tampering directly with the frame buffer for new graphics alrogithms
08:46:30	LinusN	yes, but why lcd_blit()?
08:46:52	bLuecHip	Jorg's advice - maybe i misunderstood
08:47:14	bLuecHip	ami: yes, i thought so too, but it doesn't seem to work!?
08:47:25	LinusN	blitting the entire frame buffer is exactly the same thing as lcd_update()
08:47:37	LinusN	so it should work
08:47:49	LinusN	i mean lcd_blit() should work
08:49:26	bLuecHip	well, i've just looked at the source, and full frame lcd_update is certainly faster - so I will go that way - I'm still unsure as to why i can't get blit to work
08:50:24	LinusN	i can't understand it either
08:53:28	amiconn	LinusN: As we are at lcd code, I have a question that bothers me quite a bit.
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08:56:08	LinusN	amiconn: shoot
08:56:16	amiconn	Some time ago we talked about my aim to use the unrolled lcd writing loop in lcd.c for both command and data.
08:56:45	LinusN	yeah
08:57:15	midk	i'm off for bed
08:57:20	LinusN	note midk
08:57:22	LinusN	nite
08:57:28	bLuecHip	nite
08:57:33	midk	linusn, if you come to a conclusion please post it here so i can check back in the morning :)
08:57:35	midk	nite all
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08:57:39	amiconn	You said that I may do it, but stay with a .c file for cvs continuity.
08:57:58	LinusN	yup
08:58:33	amiconn	I've finally done that, but it definitely looks very strange in C (hard to read) and is definitely compiler dependent.
08:58:54	LinusN	compiler dependent, as in gcc versions?
08:59:24	amiconn	It is pure asembler after all, so I prepared it as asm source as well, which is definitely easier to read.
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09:00:06	amiconn	The pure asm version also saves an additional 20 bytes of iram.
09:00:07	LinusN	then we should use asm
09:00:39	amiconn	If you want to compare yourself, have a look at amiconn.dyndns.org/lcd.c">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/lcd.c and http://amiconn.dyndns.org/lcd.S
09:01:16	amiconn	Then think again _if_ I may switch to pure asm.
09:01:52	LinusN	i vote for lcd.S
09:02:02	amiconn	To make the connection of the .S file to the (then re-moved to the attic) .c file a bit more obvious, I would use a clear comment.
09:02:07	bLuecHip	optimised code always wins in my books
09:02:19	LinusN	zagor is coming any minute, hold your commit until then
09:02:39	amiconn	I can even set the initial revision of the .S to the last one of lcd.c + 1
09:02:51	LinusN	i don't think he'll mind, but he always has the last word
09:03:37	amiconn	Ok, I will wait for him.
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09:04:45	amiconn	;) Coffee _is_ important, especially on Mondays
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09:07:46	amiconn	Bw: The further space saving of the asm version does only result from avoiding unnecessary constant doubling and bsr/rts. The algorithm itself is the same.
09:08:46	bLuecHip	while on asm ...which is better? x=x/8 or x=x>>3 ??
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09:16:32	amiconn	bLuecHip: x = x>>3 ensures that it will be faster. While the compiler may detect tht it is possible to replace x = x/8 with the former, it does not necessarily do so.
09:16:39	amiconn	*that
09:19:43	bLuecHip	ami: riight, i had to wonder because of the whole issue with our cpu not having a full complement of shift instructions
09:20:05	bLuecHip	i understad the code will be x>>=1; x>>=1; x>>1
09:22:51	amiconn	Yup. This still takes only 3 clocks, while a division will take _at least_ 16+ clocks (16 bit) resp. 64+clocks (32 bit)
09:23:13	bLuecHip	cool - thanks - there's a lot of that going on in the lcd core code
09:23:44	bLuecHip	/8 that is
09:24:35	bLuecHip	the bressenhams can be tightened a bit too
09:24:42	amiconn	You can have a look at what the compiler produces, since there is a disassembler included with rockbox (in the tools dir)
09:24:53	bLuecHip	oh cool - never played with that :)
09:24:59	bLuecHip	thanks
09:25:39	bLuecHip	how many registers can i realistically request for my local variables?
09:25:49	bLuecHip	sorry to pound you with Q's ;)
09:26:01	amiconn	Simply do Sh2d -sh1 [module.o] >[module_disassembled.txt]
09:26:53	amiconn	There will be some junk at the beginning and end which is not really code, but it works very well.
09:27:00	LinusN	amiconn: OK to commit the asm version
09:27:27	amiconn	LinusN: Thanks. Should I set the initial version to not being 1.1?
09:28:01	LinusN	amiconn: i think one should use a division instead of a shift and let the compiler decide
09:28:27	LinusN	unless you specifically know that the compiler will do a bad optimization job
09:28:44	amiconn	bLuecHip: The sh1 has 16 general registers, some of which are not really general. I would recommend to use max. ~7 local register variables.
09:29:00	amiconn	(away for a while)
09:29:06	bLuecHip	so our compiler is pretty good then? I've not examined the output before
09:29:17	LinusN	it is pretty good
09:29:41	LinusN	and the compiler often knows the penalty for div vs shift
09:30:05	bLuecHip	excellent - thanks :)
09:30:16	LinusN	i mean there is a breaking point where shifts are worse than divs
09:30:30	LinusN	it all depends on the architecture
09:30:41	bLuecHip	yes, that was my debate, i had not anticipated such a good compiler for this chip
09:31:23	LinusN	there may be room for optimization in the machine description for the sh target, yes
09:32:06	bLuecHip	there's always room for improvement - but it the weigh off between speed/memory and readable quick to write code
09:32:34	bLuecHip	if the code needs to be maintained - asm is often no the best choice
09:34:31	bLuecHip	reboot
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09:39:11	Fedor	hi!
09:43:00	LinusN	hi
09:49:19	Fedor	Master Linus... Respect. ;) I think will join your community soon ;) gonna make archos mod for building into the headunit of the car ;)
09:50:35	Fedor	looking for cheap second hand device right now ;)
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10:26:38	amiconn	LinusN, sorry for asking this again: Should I set the initial revision of lcd.S to not being 1.1 when committing?
10:28:38	LinusN	no
10:30:18	Fedor	LinusN: btw, it there anough cpu power to add functionality for browsing files via serial???
10:33:02	LinusN	cpu power?
10:33:35	LinusN	i guess the limiting factor would be the serial port bit rate
10:35:45	Fedor	LinusN: aha. ;) i think it should be ok, becouse i need to transfer things by one folder @ a time ;) wanna controll things from ipaq ;)
10:36:19	Fedor	LinusN: i saw in the code, serial is now clocked 9600... is it possible to raise the bitrate lets say 4 times?
10:42:36	LinusN	the remote control is 9600, that's why it is set to 9600
10:42:49	LinusN	the Player can go up to 38400, the recorder 115200
10:44:18	Fedor	LinusN: perfect!!!!!
10:44:39	Fedor	one more question... did u try to use 3.5' drive????
10:45:09	Fedor	i dont really care about size of unit, it is not going to be portable anyway ;) but in my case, size is matters ;)
10:57:57	LinusN	no, i haven't tried connecting a 3.5" drive
10:58:11	LinusN	the 3.5" drives need 12V
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11:04:36	amiconn	..and drives above 128 MB are not supported with full capacity.
11:04:46	amiconn	*128 GB of course
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11:10:30	Fedor	LinusN: 12v is not a problem, its powered by car anyway ;)
11:10:43	Fedor	amiconn: good. i have 80gb spare drive ;)
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11:17:46	Fedor	one more question for hardware dudes. ;) can DAC chip do micing of aux in signal with music?
11:26:43	LinusN	yes
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11:44:11	Strath	yay!
11:44:34	Strath	emu code is starting to actually do something :)
11:44:57	Strath	(TCC730 emu)
11:45:51	Strath	now that some branch instructions are implemented, it can go into an infinite loop!! :P
11:46:28	Strath	(waiting on value change from unimplemented memory mapped IO)
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11:49:37	Fedor	LinusN: thats cool!!!! need to passthrough navigation sound ;)))))
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13:00:17	amiconn	hi J�rg
13:00:33	[IDC]Dragon	LinusN: are you there?
13:00:38	[IDC]Dragon	Hi Jens
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13:07:46	[IDC]Dragon	amiconn: this morning, I started the target implementation of the JPEG viewer, works already.
13:08:04	[IDC]Dragon	but definitely needs refinement
13:09:59	amiconn	Sounds good.
13:10:10	amiconn	I've seen that you polished the video viewer. What about my (informal) backlight switch request?
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13:11:20	[IDC]Dragon	oops
13:11:32	[IDC]Dragon	I found no spare key ;)
13:12:37	[IDC]Dragon	maybe I can use "On"
13:13:10	[IDC]Dragon	if not used later as a kind of shift key for button combos
13:13:28	amiconn	This would really make sense: You can switch the light "On" (and off) with it.
13:13:54	[IDC]Dragon	no, you can only switch it on, else it makes no sense ;)
13:14:36	[IDC]Dragon	F1 is curently a debug key, shows buffer levels
13:15:32	amiconn	I know
13:18:32	[IDC]Dragon	with the JPEG, I stumbled across something in your grayscale framework:
13:19:04	[IDC]Dragon	when I init the buffer, I have to pass it 32-bit aligned to you, else it crashes
13:21:26	amiconn	Oops, this is correct. perhaps I should either introduce a check, or at least document that behaviour.
13:22:47	[IDC]Dragon	I think you should either require an unsigned long pointer, or align for yourself.
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13:35:25	amiconn	I think the former is the easier solution.
13:35:50	amiconn	LinusN, are you listening?
13:37:23	[IDC]Dragon	I've tried that, too, didn't help (the Linus thing)
13:37:53	c0utta	i am waiting for him too :)
13:38:03	[IDC]Dragon	Maybe he ran out of coffee, fell asleep?
13:39:38	amiconn	Assembler lcd driver committed :-)
13:39:58	Fedor	btw, dont enyone know good place to buy machines?
13:40:09	[IDC]Dragon	Good, the JPEG viewer benefits from it
13:40:23	[IDC]Dragon	Fedor: a machine shop?
13:49:10	[IDC]Dragon	amiconn: the comment about the interrupt disable/reenable is a bit odd now
13:49:36	[IDC]Dragon	the original idea was to enable again between bytes
13:49:54	[IDC]Dragon	now, it has to be locked during the whole loop
13:50:26	Fedor	[IDC]Dragon: for archos player ;) or just parts of it ;) actually i need only board ;)
13:50:29	[IDC]Dragon	but as we're not using that port within interrupts, it doesn't matter.
13:51:20	amiconn	Although the comment may sound a bit odd, this was indeed the way it was before.
13:51:21	[IDC]Dragon	Fedor: Amazon, the mailing list, ebay
13:51:36	[IDC]Dragon	was it?
13:51:38	c0utta	Fedor: www.newmp3technology.com
13:52:22	amiconn	I had a look at a disassebly of the original lcd.c compilation- gcc did optimize the precalculation block to be outside the loop.
13:52:33	[IDC]Dragon	darn
13:53:20	[IDC]Dragon	disabling during the full loop would give us horrible interrupt latencies
13:53:27	amiconn	So if I would not had replicated this, it would have been quite a bit slower.
13:53:50	amiconn	Yes I know, this is also stated within the comment.
13:54:02	[IDC]Dragon	so better state that this would have to be written different if we want lo lock during bytes
13:54:32	[IDC]Dragon	Ah, sorry, I can't read.
13:54:48	[IDC]Dragon	forget the topic
13:56:14	[IDC]Dragon	How many fps do we get now, from a free running LCD update?
13:57:52	Fedor	c0utta: 10x man
13:58:14	c0utta	np Fedor
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14:03:15	amiconn	[IDC]Dragon: I didn't measure how many fps I get when free-running, but how many percent of cpu power it draws when running at 67 fps (within the grayscale framework).
14:04:00	amiconn	I would expect ~140 fps
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14:09:10	[IDC]Dragon	not bad
14:09:34	[IDC]Dragon	last time I checked it was something in the 120s
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15:07:35	*	LinusN is back from a loooooong meeting
15:10:06	Fedor	LinusN: monday never good day ;)
15:10:57	LinusN	:-)
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15:11:31	Fedor	LinusN: btw, what about quality ov the sound on archos??? comparing with irever and ipod for example?
15:12:26	LinusN	i have no idea myself, but other people have said that the audio quality on the recorder models is very good
15:13:24	Fedor	LinusN: ;) i think i'll go for recorder also ;))))
15:13:48	LinusN	the recorder is superior to the player/studio
15:14:04	LinusN	much better sound
15:14:21	Fedor	i'll keep it in mind
15:14:23	Fedor	;)
15:15:13	amiconn	LinusN: Could you please test the new lcd code on a "real" player? Although I'm quite sure it works.
15:18:23	LinusN	ok
15:18:39	LinusN	that'l have to wait until tonight though
15:21:23	[IDC]Dragon	Hi LinusN !
15:21:47	LinusN	yo
15:21:50	[IDC]Dragon	is my change to mpeg.c politically correct?
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16:00:46	Fedor	LinusN: btw, did anyone tryed to merge your firmware with sony unilink project???
16:02:55	LinusN	i haven't heard of anything like that
16:02:59	LinusN	gotta go
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16:03:24	[IDC]Dragon	hmm, I got no audience.
16:03:32	Fedor	bb
16:03:41	Fedor	[IDC]Dragon: i am still here ;)
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16:05:00	[IDC]Dragon	Fedor: I don't know about Sony Unilink, but I use Alpine M-Bus to control the box.
16:07:54	Fedor	[IDC]Dragon: cool. what kind of commands it sends???? can i have your serial.c?
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16:10:15	[IDC]Dragon	I'm using the remote pin as M-Bus directly.
16:10:28	[IDC]Dragon	So there is no plain serial.
16:10:53	[IDC]Dragon	But we have a patch in the tracker with a software TX for the pin.
16:12:14	Fedor	i have uniling sd changer emulator ready on pic processor. just build rs232 on maxim chip ;) but. there is ttl levels. ;) what kinda levels do we have on sh1 chip? ttl or less?
16:12:29	[IDC]Dragon	3.3V
16:12:37	[IDC]Dragon	should work with TTL
16:13:12	[IDC]Dragon	but be aware it's only one pin, so only half duplex is possible
16:13:26	[IDC]Dragon	(at least without mod)
16:13:46	Fedor	[IDC]Dragon: i thought so. with something like a resistor on pic to lover logical 1 level
16:14:27	Fedor	[IDC]Dragon: thats not good. but i guess enough for comntrolling it from headunit ;)
16:15:00	Fedor	[IDC]Dragon: can i take a look on your serial.c ??? did u change the button handler?
16:15:23	[IDC]Dragon	no, I didn't
16:15:36	[IDC]Dragon	and I also didn't touch serial.c
16:15:39	Fedor	what is m-bus?
16:16:12	[IDC]Dragon	Alpine flavour of CD changer control
16:17:03	Fedor	aha.... ic..... sweet. i stuck with dam sony ;))))) which actually dont mind. archos will go INSIDE a headunit ;)))
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21:29:23	BioHazard\|150Mhz	man, ive been having a problem with RLD lately...
21:30:34	BioHazard\|150Mhz	i scandisked the drive last night, it found 147 bad sectors and "fixed" them and i havent seen RLD since
21:32:48	BioHazard\|150Mhz	i guess i shouldnt shake my jukebox so much...
21:33:08	amiconn	BioHazard\|150Mhz: What's your hard disk type/model? I guess Hitachi DK23DA-xx...
21:34:30	BioHazard\|150Mhz	its a travelstar
21:34:52	BioHazard\|150Mhz	(checking the debug screen now)
21:35:45	BioHazard\|150Mhz	IBM-IC25N015ATDA04-0
21:36:32	BioHazard\|150Mhz	the 15GB JBR HD
21:36:51	amiconn	Hmm, so my guess was wrong. I didn't hear of rld with IBM hds before.
21:37:16	BioHazard\|150Mhz	neither have I, thats why i thought it was strange
21:37:39	BioHazard\|150Mhz	maybe it read data out of those bad sectors and crashed?
21:38:47	amiconn	Maybe. Anyway, if scandisk starts to see bad sectors it is really a bad sign.
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21:39:42	amiconn	All modern hds do map out bad sectors as long as they can (=until the internal defects list is full).
21:39:42	BioHazard\|150Mhz	now this is RLD right?: playing a song\doing anything and all of a sudden it stops and no keypresses are registered and the red LED is on. it stays that way untill i pop out the batteries
21:40:16	amiconn	yes
21:41:16	amiconn	Although you should be able to switch off with a long press of "off" (really long if it is a fm/v2). Of course this only works without the charger connected.
21:41:37	BioHazard\|150Mhz	not even that works in this case
21:42:07	BioHazard\|150Mhz	sometimes it works, sometimes not
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22:07:58	limbus	amiconn: can you tell me whut's a RLD ?
22:09:26	amiconn	RLD = red led death (similar to a windows bsod). The jukebox hangs while the red led is continuously on.
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22:14:30	Fedor	:)
22:16:05	limbus	amiconn: tnx. I was wondering google didn't know that one
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23:15:59	edouble	hey all. Anyone kindly have any info on HD diagnostics for the Recorder 20?
23:19:48	bLuecHip	easiest is to slap it in a PC
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23:22:05	bLuecHip	who ate all the py's?
23:22:09	edouble	Thank bluechip. That's what I thought, the progress bar on load up stops at the 3rd bar with the hd scanning... You got any good tools you recommend on the win 2k pc? And where do I get a torc screwdriver to open this thang up?
23:22:51	arspy87	hey bLuecHip :-P
23:26:09	bLuecHip	edouble: pends on the problem really - I'd start with Sandra, then maybe SpinRite and get more specifics on the detail of the trouble - you may find it's just a loose connector once you get the back off
23:28:25	edouble	gotcha, thank bluechip.Gotta run out and get a tool to open it up with.
23:28:45	bLuecHip	they're not rare, just not in your standard toolbox (yet) :) yw ;)
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