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00:29:50 | scott666 | this whole bluechip drama is entertaining |
00:29:52 | Zagor | hi hardeep |
00:29:58 | Zagor | scott666: isn't it? :) |
00:30:09 | hardeep | heya Zagor |
00:30:40 | hardeep | doh, i'm missing all of it... i've had him on killfile list for a while |
00:30:49 | Zagor | hehe |
00:31:01 | scott666 | very little has come from him |
00:31:14 | scott666 | concerning the most recent drama anyway |
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00:33:53 | scott666 | woud a link to the othelo (or other) plugin(s) that hes hosting be unreasonable? |
00:33:58 | Zagor | hey linus. starting the night shift? |
00:34:07 | LinusN | yup |
00:34:24 | Zagor | scott666: not at all |
00:35:35 | Zagor | ...except that he's violating the gpl at the moment ;) (but it sounded like that was mostly due to misunderstandings) |
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00:39:41 | track | What happened to Othello? |
00:40:28 | track | was one of my fave plugins |
00:40:45 | LinusN | get it from bluechip's web page |
00:41:15 | track | was there a legal issue? |
00:41:26 | LinusN | potential legal issue |
00:41:36 | track | in what way, who has the copyright? |
00:41:52 | LinusN | some guy who calls himself "BlueChip" |
00:41:57 | track | oh |
00:41:59 | track | ok |
00:42:02 | scott666 | track: look at the most recent rockbox mailing list archives |
00:42:13 | track | I feel rockbox has reached the limit of all its feasable featuers |
00:42:14 | LinusN | and the irc log from yesterday |
00:42:19 | track | ok linusn |
00:43:47 | track | I like the greyscale |
00:43:53 | track | would be great to use on the WPS |
00:44:49 | track | Linus would this work? |
00:44:55 | LinusN | yes and no |
00:45:19 | LinusN | it takes too much resources |
00:45:20 | track | ID3 artist fade in-scroll-fade out ID3 title fade in-scroll-fade out? |
00:46:12 | track | that would look superb |
00:49:16 | track | what u think of that if it was possible? |
00:49:30 | LinusN | would be ?ber-cool |
00:49:36 | track | :D |
00:49:47 | track | i dont think it would take THAT much resorces |
00:50:42 | LinusN | the gray scale engine is a major CPU hog |
00:51:10 | track | oh :( |
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00:52:05 | track | if only Archos put in something more powerful than a 12Mhz SHU |
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01:03:33 | midk | hey all |
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01:09:20 | midk | aww why othelo removed |
01:09:28 | Zagor | read the list |
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01:14:36 | midk | ah come on |
01:14:40 | midk | that's like the best game there is |
01:14:53 | Zagor | don't start |
01:15:11 | midk | don't start what? |
01:15:21 | Zagor | arguing |
01:15:38 | midk | yessir |
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01:16:11 | amiconn | hi all |
01:16:16 | midk | hey |
01:16:37 | amiconn | Zagor: I found a problem concerning the patch tracker |
01:17:22 | Zagor | only one? ;) |
01:17:56 | amiconn | Some days ago I submitted patch #961252 by mattzz, but I cannot set the status to "accepted" |
01:18:20 | amiconn | s/submitted/committed/ |
01:19:05 | Zagor | testing... |
01:19:12 | Zagor | worked for me |
01:19:51 | amiconn | Yes, but then you are a project admin... Non-admins can only change their own patches |
01:20:16 | Zagor | ah, right |
01:20:48 | amiconn | Of course this is intentional, but if you don't want to give many people admin access, there should be a mechanism for committers to tell one of the admins to close a patch |
01:21:20 | Zagor | i have no problem giving tracker admin rights to committers. hang on... |
01:23:45 | Zagor | fixed |
01:26:13 | amiconn | Thanks. This may offload you, Linus and Daniel from requests like that |
01:28:19 | Zagor | indeed |
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01:29:38 | Zagor | hi there. time for the night shift, BlueChip? :) |
01:30:33 | BlueChip | I'm hoping for an early on tonight ...but I normally get tied up in code ...i'm on about 36hrs atm, so maybe sleep will be forthcoming |
01:30:49 | BlueChip | you're up pretty late yourself |
01:31:11 | Zagor | yeah. i'm about to go in a few minutes. |
01:32:26 | BlueChip | I have a new game to play ..... |
01:32:36 | BlueChip | find the source code: http://carangg.de/rockbox/spliteditor.php |
01:33:19 | BlueChip | am I just plain missing it? |
01:33:30 | Zagor | i can't even find the binary! :) |
01:33:42 | amiconn | BlueChip: This is something I was also looking for... |
01:33:44 | BlueChip | lol |
01:33:49 | BlueChip | it LOOKS awesome! |
01:33:56 | Zagor | indeed |
01:34:19 | amiconn | Zagor: The binaries are there. |
01:34:28 | Zagor | ah, found them |
01:34:45 | BlueChip | where? |
01:34:52 | Zagor | http://carangg.de/rockbox/ |
01:35:20 | amiconn | Even http://www.carangg.de/rockbox/splitedit_rec.zip and http://www.carangg.de/rockbox/splitedit_fm.zip |
01:35:22 | BlueChip | just binaries :( ...i was gonna update it :( |
01:35:58 | amiconn | Obviously these use a modified version of the core firmware |
01:36:27 | BlueChip | wonder why he chose to do that? |
01:36:47 | Zagor | amiconn: why is that obvious? |
01:37:21 | BlueChip | the mail I replied to which spawned the mail with the link was that it did not work with rockbox firmware |
01:37:24 | amiconn | I guessed it since the .ajz files are included. I can't know for sure since there is no source |
01:37:39 | Zagor | ah right, good clue |
01:38:04 | amiconn | (a clear violation of the gpl btw) |
01:38:09 | Zagor | yes |
01:39:02 | amiconn | Perhaps we should just ask him to publish the sources |
01:39:04 | Zagor | i think he submitted a patch of that long ago, but I doubt it's the same version |
01:40:37 | Zagor | nah, can't find it |
01:41:01 | BlueChip | its not in patch traker I went through all those the other night |
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01:41:12 | BlueChip | there's only a few real gems on there imho |
01:41:25 | Zagor | yes |
01:41:59 | BlueChip | file sort gets 10 points from the english jury |
01:42:14 | BlueChip | I would love all my playlists at the top |
01:42:20 | Zagor | :-) |
01:42:31 | BlueChip | and it is a beautiful patch |
01:43:15 | amiconn | One patch I will have a closer look at is #861278, if someone else isn't faster than me. |
01:43:31 | BlueChip | wassat |
01:43:41 | Zagor | i found a very old mail discussing the split editor: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-10/0448.shtml |
01:44:32 | midk | comment: "stupid" |
01:44:35 | midk | wth. |
01:44:50 | amiconn | Although simple, it would fix something that starts to annoy me - after exiting a plugin, one should be in the list of plugins, but is not |
01:44:50 | Zagor | midk: ? |
01:44:58 | midk | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=861278 |
01:44:59 | BlueChip | the attachment is not there :( |
01:45:01 | midk | someone left a comment |
01:45:23 | midk | amiconn, i also wish it would stick to plugin screen |
01:45:33 | midk | if i complete a game of tetris it dumps me back to the menu |
01:45:42 | midk | which reminds me i need to submit my tetris patch. thank you! |
01:45:46 | Zagor | midk: ah, right. random people are lovely. :-) |
01:45:51 | BlueChip | anyone note the nasty USB bug in kbd.c |
01:45:56 | midk | LOL Zagor |
01:46:21 | Zagor | BlueChip: you make it sound like there's only one :) |
01:47:06 | BlueChip | lol - just thought I would mention that the plugin needs to return -2 or soemthing to indicate a usb event - it display the usb screen and carries on running the keybboard program |
01:47:19 | midk | nahahhaahhahhahahh |
01:47:22 | midk | *coughs |
01:47:38 | BlueChip | I have noticed a lot of USB problems - but not sure who is to blame Windows98 or Rockbx |
01:48:34 | Zagor | depends on the problem. rockbox does nothing except enabling usb, so actual usb problems are probably not it. |
01:49:17 | BlueChip | does the act of displaying the screen enable the usb? |
01:49:30 | Zagor | no, but we do it at the same time |
01:49:39 | BlueChip | not in keyboard.c |
01:49:58 | Zagor | well we have bugs :) |
01:49:58 | BlueChip | if (usb) show_screen; continue; |
01:50:10 | midk | ooooooooooo |
01:50:53 | BlueChip | of course, just identifying them to those who can make a difference when I spot them |
01:50:57 | Zagor | note that usb_screen() does not return until usb is disconnected. |
01:51:22 | BlueChip | ahh - so displaying the screen DOES activate the usb |
01:51:48 | BlueChip | so why does a plugin HAVE to return immediately after? |
01:51:57 | Zagor | well it depends on what abstraction level you mean, but yes in that case. |
01:52:02 | BlueChip | with return(USB_EVENT) |
01:52:54 | BlueChip | i presumed I displayed the screen and the return told the main code to do the usb thing ...why can the plugin not just carry on where it left off? |
01:53:47 | Zagor | do we really have such a rule? |
01:54:17 | BlueChip | there is no official programming spec that I know of, but every plugin does it |
01:54:23 | amiconn | Zagor: One could think so, since all plugins act that way |
01:54:55 | Zagor | not helloworld ;) |
01:55:08 | BlueChip | it would save me no end of code and make my program cooler if it is not required |
01:55:35 | amiconn | If it is not necessary, it should even be possible to let the plugin run _while_ usb is connected (as long as there is not harddisk access) |
01:55:55 | BlueChip | iiiinteresting |
01:56:16 | Zagor | amiconn: we can potentially run a lot of stuff during usb connection, but it's hairy since all disk access would make it hang |
01:56:51 | Zagor | we haven't really seen the need to run anything during usb transfers |
01:57:16 | BlueChip | pointless animations :) |
01:57:19 | amiconn | One could continue playing a game while transferring files... |
01:57:19 | BlueChip | in greyscale |
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01:58:51 | Zagor | that's absolutely possible. but is it worthwhile? currently Rockbox ensures that nothing accesses the disk during usb access. I don't know if it's a good idea to let all plugins ensure that on their own. |
01:58:59 | BlueChip | is it possible to delay for .5S before enabling USB - mine nearly always fails if I put the plug in slowly |
01:59:12 | Zagor | sure |
01:59:20 | Zagor | odd problem though |
01:59:38 | BlueChip | if I jam the connector in real fast it work 95% of the time |
01:59:45 | BlueChip | *works |
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02:00:01 | BlueChip | if I put it in slowly - the handshake starts and then fails |
02:00:26 | BlueChip | I think it is handshaking while the connector is still moving - Rockbox is just too efficient - lol |
02:00:56 | Zagor | a delay sounds like a good idea |
02:00:56 | amiconn | BlueChip: It may well be the "other side" (pc) |
02:01:57 | BlueChip | My results have been reliable for the past few days while I have been finalising the bet of audio_3587 |
02:02:40 | BlueChip | *beta |
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02:04:42 | Zagor | i need to get some sleep. see you guys. |
02:04:52 | midk | nite |
02:04:52 | amiconn | Nite Zagor |
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02:05:02 | amiconn | I'm off too |
02:05:06 | midk | nite ami |
02:05:11 | BlueChip | nite all |
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02:05:21 | midk | seeya bc? |
02:05:33 | BlueChip | soon enough |
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08:22:27 | midk | windows sucks. |
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09:32:51 | mattzz | g'murnin' |
09:33:31 | dwihno | Goth mourning :[ |
09:34:27 | mattzz | huge thunderstorms in hamburg today - reminds me pretty much of "day after tomorrow".... |
09:34:41 | dwihno | It has begun? |
09:34:45 | dwihno | Now we die? |
09:34:53 | mattzz | the nothern current.... yes |
09:39:00 | mattzz | Is there a possibility of automatical scrolling a playlist? (so that the current title is visible) |
09:41:58 | adiamas | how do you mean the playlist? |
09:42:04 | adiamas | the name of it, the current song playing? |
09:42:39 | mattzz | yup |
09:43:44 | mattzz | if I do "view current playlist" |
09:47:35 | adiamas | ahh.. dunno.. havn't played with it in a while.. |
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10:54:37 | uski | ooo, a Bagder |
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13:03:51 | striders | hi all |
13:03:57 | Bagder | hi |
13:04:11 | striders | hi have a problem =( |
13:04:51 | striders | with my archos jukebox recorder 20 |
13:05:05 | Bagder | just open your heart |
13:05:07 | Bagder | :-) |
13:06:35 | striders | well |
13:06:58 | striders | my archos doesn't charge anymore |
13:07:20 | Bagder | that's bad |
13:07:20 | striders | i have tested with full batteries and it works, archos boots |
13:07:59 | striders | but when i plug the ACC-DC stabilizer |
13:08:04 | striders | nothing happen, |
13:08:13 | striders | it doesn't charge anything |
13:08:37 | Bagder | you tried the debug screen for charging? |
13:08:40 | striders | so, ii think it is the loader in the archos which is dead |
13:09:06 | striders | nothing happen, |
13:10:06 | striders | u mean, if i try to run the archos with full batteries and go in debug scree, i can see if the loader is dead ? |
13:10:39 | Bagder | plug in the charger and check the voltage in that screen |
13:10:59 | striders | ok |
13:11:43 | striders | right now, i'm loading new batteries |
13:11:58 | striders | i will try to see the voltage once batteries loaded |
13:12:08 | striders | and if it works what should i see ? |
13:12:46 | Bagder | if you select "view battery" and then press down once |
13:13:05 | Bagder | you should see battery voltage, external voltage and charger present |
13:13:15 | Bagder | the battery voltage should rise slowly |
13:13:27 | Bagder | it should say that the charger is present |
13:13:27 | striders | ok |
13:14:19 | striders | but when i plug the charger, the light bling green and switch off, and impossible to boot the archos :/ |
13:14:39 | striders | without batteries, the archos should starts ? |
13:14:46 | striders | if i plug the charger |
13:14:48 | Bagder | 1 - hold down on longer or 2 - start the archos first then plug in the charger |
13:14:51 | Bagder | no |
13:14:56 | Bagder | it doesn't work without batteries |
13:15:28 | striders | ok |
13:16:17 | striders | so, my batteries were completly dischargeed |
13:16:49 | Bagder | then the archos won't start again until they are at least somewhat charged |
13:17:24 | striders | ok |
13:18:11 | striders | if i put discharged batteries in the archos and plug the charger, the archos should start to charge batteries ? |
13:18:18 | Bagder | yes |
13:18:30 | striders | it doesn't happen :/ |
13:18:44 | Bagder | and those are good batteries? |
13:21:37 | striders | yes |
13:21:44 | striders | i have just bought new one |
13:21:57 | striders | and i'm charging them with a external charger |
13:22:34 | Bagder | given all this, it certainly sounds as if your archos has lost its charging ability |
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13:31:49 | fdfdgfdgf | sup |
13:31:54 | fdfdgfdgf | is a nyone in here??????????? |
13:32:16 | Bagder | /whois nyone |
13:32:18 | Bagder | oops |
13:32:22 | Bagder | B-] |
13:32:30 | fdfdgfdgf | lol |
13:32:35 | fdfdgfdgf | what are you doing up so early |
13:33:15 | LinusN | early? it's 13:30 here |
13:33:35 | fdfdgfdgf | im in the united states |
13:33:45 | fdfdgfdgf | you guys probably live in the UK im guessing. |
13:33:50 | striders | (yes, i think it is nomore able to charge, do u know if it is easy to change the charging device in the archos ? ) |
13:34:48 | fdfdgfdgf | but um my question is |
13:34:54 | fdfdgfdgf | i need help updating the latest patch |
13:35:00 | fdfdgfdgf | i already downloaded it- but i don't know what to do |
13:35:00 | LinusN | fdfdgfdgf: sweden, actually |
13:35:12 | LinusN | latest patch? |
13:35:18 | fdfdgfdgf | lol u speak good english then :) |
13:35:23 | Bagder | is there a latest patch? |
13:35:30 | fdfdgfdgf | i mean the latest built |
13:35:33 | fdfdgfdgf | *build |
13:35:43 | Bagder | striders: I don't know, I'm not too hw-skilled to that level |
13:36:36 | LinusN | striders: the charging regulator is a tiny little sucker, but several people have managed to replace it |
13:37:04 | fdfdgfdgf | Anyone gonna help me? lol |
13:37:27 | Bagder | fdfdgfdgf: to do what? |
13:37:51 | fdfdgfdgf | i just donwloaded the latest build - how do i install it |
13:38:09 | Bagder | you tried reading the manual? |
13:38:30 | fdfdgfdgf | i dont have it - i'd figure it would be easier just coming here and ask |
13:38:41 | striders | LinusN: ok, thanx, do u know where i can buy this stuff ? |
13:39:11 | LinusN | www.newmp3technology.com |
13:39:26 | Bagder | fdfdgfdgf: unzip it to your archos |
13:39:34 | striders | thx |
13:39:50 | fdfdgfdgf | bagder: ok hold on |
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13:43:26 | fdfdgfdgf | So just extract it |
13:43:40 | Bagder | yes |
13:43:43 | Bagder | blam |
13:44:03 | fdfdgfdgf | okay did that |
13:44:04 | fdfdgfdgf | now what |
13:44:31 | Bagder | reboot your archos |
13:45:38 | fdfdgfdgf | it still says v 050404 |
13:45:49 | fdfdgfdgf | 040505 |
13:46:12 | Bagder | is that flashed? |
13:46:24 | fdfdgfdgf | what do you mean |
13:46:42 | Bagder | how do you install the previous version? |
13:46:46 | Bagder | did |
13:47:01 | fdfdgfdgf | Don't remember ... |
13:49:26 | fdfdgfdgf | well ???? |
13:50:07 | LinusN | when you boot, does it say something on the LCD before the rockbox logo appears? |
13:51:08 | fdfdgfdgf | no under the rockbox logo theres a date |
13:51:43 | LinusN | ok, then you have flashed your firmware earlier |
13:52:23 | fdfdgfdgf | ok |
13:52:37 | fdfdgfdgf | also- im leaving to hong kong tommorrow and probably will be at the airport for awhile |
13:52:45 | fdfdgfdgf | is it okay to charge the player while listening to it? |
13:53:12 | LinusN | yes |
13:53:20 | LinusN | press F2, then Down until it says "All files" |
13:53:38 | LinusN | then f2 again |
13:53:52 | LinusN | after that, play the file called "ajbrec.ajz" |
13:54:24 | LinusN | then, enter the ".rockbox" directory and play the file called "rockbox.ucl" |
13:55:30 | fdfdgfdgf | ok |
13:55:34 | fdfdgfdgf | now wut |
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13:56:18 | LinusN | what does it say on the lcd? |
13:57:21 | fdfdgfdgf | 40609 |
13:57:28 | fdfdgfdgf | Yes!! So thats how you do it! |
13:58:27 | fdfdgfdgf | Does it use up more battery while its charging if im listening to it? |
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14:00:20 | LinusN | the charging will take longer, yes |
14:00:54 | fdfdgfdgf | ok ... |
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14:02:00 | LinusN | you're welcome :-) |
14:02:20 | Bagder | rudeness |
14:04:01 | c0utta | a bit of a worry if you didn't know you'd previously flashed.. |
14:04:35 | Bagder | it does prove that people trust unknown strangers on the internet |
14:04:40 | Bagder | :-) |
14:04:44 | Bagder | "go ahead, do this" |
14:06:11 | c0utta | do you have any idea how many people use vbrfix ? |
14:07:55 | LinusN | i think quite a few |
14:08:05 | c0utta | could it be a plugin ? |
14:08:11 | LinusN | yes, now it can |
14:08:33 | LinusN | since we implemented the "open with..." |
14:08:34 | Bagder | imo, it should be |
14:08:41 | c0utta | i'm nearing the end of the context sensitive F3 and vbrfix is a lot of code |
14:08:51 | Bagder | coffee refill! |
14:08:59 | c0utta | wine refill |
14:09:28 | LinusN | is vbrfix a lot of code? |
14:09:39 | c0utta | a lot of code i don't understand :) |
14:10:04 | c0utta | i'm just copying it out of onplay.c into my own action.c |
14:10:12 | LinusN | ah |
14:10:22 | c0utta | with a view to kill onplay.c |
14:10:43 | LinusN | i definitely think vbrfix should be a plugin |
14:11:02 | dwihno_ | Agreed. |
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14:11:23 | c0utta | any takers ? |
14:11:30 | LinusN | i'll do it |
14:11:45 | c0utta | i was joking linus - i can do it |
14:11:59 | c0utta | although if you understand it.... |
14:12:11 | LinusN | i wrote it :-) |
14:12:14 | c0utta | and it does have your "style |
14:12:57 | dwihno | LinusN: vbrfix with, or without starka såsen på? :) |
14:14:10 | LinusN | sill å potatis |
14:14:47 | dwihno | macdonalds har fått konkurrens |
14:15:44 | c0utta | baabaa bawbaw faranf maak |
14:15:58 | LinusN | bork! bork! bork! |
14:16:24 | c0utta | and what was the chef's name ? |
14:16:35 | LinusN | "the swedish chef", afaik |
14:17:11 | dwihno | indeedelio! |
14:17:15 | c0utta | and what does "bork" mean in swedish ? |
14:17:24 | LinusN | absolutely nothing |
14:17:26 | dwihno | It goes back to the middle ages. |
14:17:30 | c0utta | thought so |
14:17:39 | dwihno | It was about Ronja and her good friend, Birk Borkasson |
14:17:48 | LinusN | dwihno: booooo |
14:17:50 | dwihno | :) |
14:17:54 | dwihno | *drumroll* |
14:18:21 | c0utta | i heard the swedes go crazy in summer |
14:19:49 | Hes | Hey, I have heard a lot of funny stories about the swedish 8-) |
14:19:58 | Hes | but maybe I should keep my mouth shut |
14:21:06 | Hes | We have a huge genre of jokes that start with "The finnish, the swedish and the (russian/french/english/norwegian) went/did/..." |
14:21:32 | c0utta | linus, i'll remove vbrfix from the f3 context menu, ok ? |
14:23:47 | dwihno | Hes: we call them Bellman stories in sweden |
14:23:59 | dwihno | Hes: the norwegian, the danish and Bellman |
14:24:10 | LinusN | yes |
14:24:27 | c0utta | done.. |
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16:15:57 | lImbus | dwihno: now that I tought about carefully: how did you type in bold letters the Bork of "Borkasson" @ 14:17 ? |
16:19:04 | dwihno | lImbus: it's in the client |
16:19:16 | dwihno | ctrl+b perhaps |
16:36:43 | lImbus | ok, it's not in the opera-irc-client ;-) |
16:37:11 | dwihno | hah |
16:37:13 | dwihno | :) |
16:37:18 | dwihno | <b>Hello!</b> then? ;) |
16:38:10 | lImbus | heh, they are talking about 6 new security problems in cvs ! |
16:38:30 | dwihno | Opera CVS? |
16:38:37 | dwihno | Or just simply CVS? :) |
16:40:09 | lImbus | lol opera cvs. that would be leet, welcome the fat client that does relly everything ! |
16:40:34 | lImbus | no, there seem to be a few new problems in the cvs-server-code |
16:41:41 | lImbus | http://security.e-matters.de/advisories/092004.html |
16:42:41 | dwihno | ah |
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16:47:07 | Occupantsless | hey all |
16:48:03 | Occupantsless | hello? |
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16:49:26 | lImbus | hi andyman1 |
16:49:36 | AndyMan1 | i've got a problem |
16:49:43 | AndyMan1 | think you can help? |
16:49:51 | lImbus | i hope so. tell me |
16:50:39 | AndyMan1 | i've got a Jukebox Studio 20. everything was going fine until yesterday. I try and boot it up, it sits there for a while, then finally says "No fat32 partition" |
16:51:01 | AndyMan1 | and some other message...*boots up to type that in* |
16:51:24 | lImbus | mhmm. I'm not that in at that low level, but lemme try |
16:51:32 | AndyMan1 | P0 S:3F |
16:51:47 | lImbus | I suppose you changed nothing ? |
16:51:59 | AndyMan1 | just loaded rockbox default |
16:52:06 | lImbus | flashed ? |
16:52:14 | AndyMan1 | uhh..... |
16:52:19 | AndyMan1 | =P |
16:52:28 | lImbus | did you flash rockbox into the devices memory ? |
16:52:35 | AndyMan1 | i suppose if i don't know what that is, i didn't do it |
16:52:40 | AndyMan1 | i just did the default upload |
16:52:51 | AndyMan1 | i don't think i flashed it |
16:53:05 | lImbus | other question for same purpose: how long did your rockbox take to boot up ? about 4 seconds or rather 10, more than ten ? |
16:53:11 | AndyMan1 | i did a quick search for what to do, and i found something saying to boot into the regular jukebox OS, using the on key and F1...problem is, i don't have an F1 |
16:53:25 | AndyMan1 | about 4-10 seconds |
16:53:38 | lImbus | F1 is the first of the three keys underneath the screen |
16:54:11 | AndyMan1 | i've got ON, MENU, and that 4 button play/pause, minus, plus, stop |
16:54:30 | lImbus | NO keys underneath the screen ? |
16:54:39 | AndyMan1 | nope... |
16:54:44 | lImbus | ugh, you got a archos studio |
16:54:51 | AndyMan1 | yeah |
16:54:51 | AndyMan1 | its a little bitch |
16:55:06 | AndyMan1 | been through about 5 of these through a best buy warranty |
16:55:07 | lImbus | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/devicechart.html |
16:55:37 | AndyMan1 | yeah, second one from the left is me |
16:55:39 | lImbus | I must have overread that, I tought you were on a recorder. |
16:55:45 | AndyMan1 | my bad |
16:56:07 | lImbus | the f1-story only applies to flashed devices only, IMHO. a studio cannot be flashed. |
16:56:20 | lImbus | are you a small bit in cimputers or electronics ? |
16:56:28 | AndyMan1 | not really, why? |
16:56:42 | AndyMan1 | i mean, if i have to fiddle with it, i'll try |
16:56:49 | AndyMan1 | but i haven't done much hardware stuff |
16:57:22 | AndyMan1 | i've tried booting it up into usb to try and delete it through Windows, but it couldnt access the drive |
16:57:38 | lImbus | most probably, there is no partition on the hard drive, it's gone, or broken, or the harddisk disconnected itself due to joggling and shaking |
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16:58:20 | AndyMan1 | it will spin up a little bit, and I did get it to display a drive in Explorer, but nothing else |
16:58:29 | AndyMan1 | so guide me along, sensei |
16:58:33 | AndyMan1 | =P |
16:58:38 | lImbus | ohh, if the usb thingy works, you should first try to reformat the drive trough the usb. (I ever thought it souldn't work) |
16:59:02 | AndyMan1 | well it sort of works, it takes about ten minutes to find the drive, and wont get past that |
16:59:05 | AndyMan1 | i'll try again |
16:59:26 | lImbus | what windows version ? |
16:59:29 | AndyMan1 | XP |
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17:00:04 | lImbus | my computer->right click->manage |
17:00:06 | AndyMan1 | yeup, it hops into the "usb active..." thing like normal, windows knows there is a usb device, but no drive yet |
17:00:40 | lImbus | -> storage->disk managment |
17:00:47 | AndyMan1 | and i'm going to lose all my songs, aren't I? grrr. =P |
17:01:36 | lImbus | yeah, you'll lose them as far as there will be NOT there instead of beeing there but unreacheable. dunno which of both hurts more :-/ |
17:02:10 | AndyMan1 | I'm trying to access it one more time |
17:02:24 | AndyMan1 | i'll open up the events manager and see if any message might be helpful |
17:03:00 | AndyMan1 | event id 51: An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk1\D during a paging operation. |
17:03:32 | lImbus | bof, the event manager isn't verbose enough most of the time |
17:03:51 | AndyMan1 | if it can't access the drive, am i going to be able to format? |
17:04:06 | lImbus | not without opening your unit |
17:04:06 | AndyMan1 | i tried formatting one before and it just killed it completely |
17:04:14 | lImbus | errr. |
17:04:30 | AndyMan1 | i've been through a lot of these =P |
17:04:43 | AndyMan1 | i guess i'm going to have to open it |
17:05:16 | lImbus | you'll have to open the device, extract the hard disk and connect it to your computer through a special convertor adaptor connector |
17:06:27 | AndyMan1 | uhh... |
17:06:34 | AndyMan1 | crap |
17:06:34 | lImbus | your computer then will have full access to it. you'll be able to format it, create the partition (formatted with fat 32 IIRC), all that you cannot do normaly trough usb |
17:06:55 | AndyMan1 | where do i get this convertor adaptor connector? |
17:07:49 | lImbus | good question. |
17:08:06 | lImbus | i'll recommend to ask a local computer dealer for. |
17:08:38 | lImbus | or even see ebay for a 40->44 pins adaptor. ide, laptop/notebook harddrive should be suitable keywords |
17:09:02 | AndyMan1 | i can search newegg or go to Fry's to find one |
17:09:11 | AndyMan1 | what exactly is it called |
17:09:32 | lImbus | well, it changes from dealer to dealer. |
17:09:55 | lImbus | it is an adaptor to connect a notebook hardrive to a ususal desktop pc |
17:10:03 | AndyMan1 | ok |
17:10:41 | lImbus | better ask in a small tiny computer store if you can borrow one. i could imagine fry's asks half about a forune for that |
17:11:10 | lImbus | ever opened a pc ? connected a hardrive ? I recommend this to be prerequisites with the next steps |
17:11:23 | AndyMan1 | this'll be a first |
17:12:03 | lImbus | it's a small bit tricky cuz there is no indication in which way the adaptor has to be connected to the hard drive. |
17:12:18 | lImbus | fifty fifty ok, fifty fifty death |
17:12:37 | lImbus | better get someone used to hardrives and pc's |
17:12:51 | AndyMan1 | so what i need is an adaptor that goes from 40 to 44 pins, from a laptop to a computer |
17:12:59 | AndyMan1 | i think i know a local place that might do it |
17:13:26 | lImbus | from a laptop's HARDRIVE to a normal computer hardrive cable. |
17:13:27 | AndyMan1 | whats the name of the screw type on these thing? the wierd diamond shape |
17:13:32 | AndyMan1 | my bad =P |
17:13:41 | lImbus | what thing ? |
17:13:51 | lImbus | phh, on the rockbox ? |
17:13:53 | AndyMan1 | the screw type on the Jukebox |
17:14:08 | AndyMan1 | so i can actually enter this thing |
17:14:49 | lImbus | ok, if it's the same for jukebox studio and recorder AND it's called the same in the us than here in europe, you should head for a set of TORX screwdrivers |
17:15:28 | lImbus | get that: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/disassemble.html |
17:15:56 | AndyMan1 | ok |
17:18:27 | AndyMan1 | if i can get them to get in there and do this, i'll still need to format, i can't just delete the rockbox stuff and see if it works, correct? |
17:23:16 | AndyMan1 | are there any other directions out there for what to do after its disassembled, with pictures? i'm sure any help i can give them will be huge |
17:29:08 | lImbus | sorry for beeing afk |
17:29:16 | AndyMan1 | no prob |
17:29:36 | lImbus | you should be first be able to get the original archos firmware running |
17:30:02 | lImbus | then, through usb, you can install eveything rockboxy |
17:30:18 | AndyMan1 | after the format, what will i need to do? |
17:30:24 | AndyMan1 | to get the archos stuff going |
17:30:54 | lImbus | normally plain nothing, except from uploading a few mp3-files |
17:31:06 | AndyMan1 | ok |
17:31:15 | lImbus | I havn't yet understood your second queston over there |
17:32:15 | AndyMan1 | you're not going to believe this... |
17:32:34 | AndyMan1 | i think this thing may still be under warranty |
17:32:41 | AndyMan1 | is it void with the rockbox? |
17:32:55 | lImbus | some say yes, some say no |
17:33:16 | lImbus | if the harddisk got a problem, noone will notice you installed rockbox |
17:33:28 | AndyMan1 | i mean, its from Best Buy, so this may be so old no one would know the difference |
17:35:16 | AndyMan1 | hmm...i'm going to hold off, try and get the warranty...if they don't accept it, i'll go this route |
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17:35:35 | musicman | hi everybody |
17:35:47 | AndyMan1 | i think my odds might be better than 50/50 with the warranty =P |
17:36:02 | lImbus | hi |
17:36:17 | lImbus | andyman1 I would give a try to the warranty either |
17:36:26 | lImbus | /too |
17:36:26 | musicman | sorry for my englih . it's very poor |
17:36:43 | AndyMan1 | it's better than most native speakers =D |
17:36:56 | musicman | lol |
17:37:27 | musicman | i'm looking for a maner to add auto pause function for my archos recorder |
17:37:29 | AndyMan1 | i've printed out how to get into the jukebox, hopefully no one will notice the rockbox |
17:37:43 | AndyMan1 | so warranty first, hack later |
17:37:44 | musicman | do you know where can i ask it ? |
17:38:14 | AndyMan1 | thanks a LOT for your help, lImbus |
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17:38:31 | AndyMan1 | i may be on at a later date |
17:38:55 | AndyMan1 | bye all |
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17:40:07 | musicman | nobody to answer me ? |
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