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| 06:08:42 | BlueChip | baot? |
| 06:08:43 | BlueChip | boat? |
| 06:08:52 | midk|bbl | ? |
| 06:08:55 | midk|bbl | lol |
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| 06:11:10 | SnipR | hey yall |
| 06:11:24 | BlueChip | hey hey |
| 06:12:06 | SnipR | can yall see what i type |
| 06:12:18 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK BlueChip |
| 06:12:18 | BlueChip | [05:12] <SnipR> can yall see what i type |
| 06:12:25 | SnipR | goo |
| 06:12:38 | SnipR | i was wondrin cuz i keep getting a message |
| 06:12:46 | SnipR | like unregisterd copy |
| 06:13:13 | BlueChip | use a free irc client, such as trillian or Mirc |
| 06:13:47 | SnipR | im gonna get 1 i was just cheking out the room |
| 06:14:37 | BlueChip | this is a support group for MP3 player firmware called RockBox |
| 06:15:22 | SnipR | yea i put it on my fm rec 20 |
| 06:15:45 | BlueChip | kewl - did you get the 2.2 release or a daily build? |
| 06:15:57 | SnipR | 2.2 on |
| 06:16:10 | BlueChip | get a daily build, 2.2 is ancient now :( |
| 06:16:11 | SnipR | but dailybuild in a folder |
| 06:16:30 | SnipR | through ROLO |
| 06:17:18 | BlueChip | from my early expereinces here, you are unlikely to get any support for old builds ...you will always be told "run the latest and tell us if we have already fixed <whatever>" |
| 06:18:40 | SnipR | i understad |
| 06:38:51 | dwihno | Moinsens |
| 06:39:10 | BlueChip | borra da |
| 06:42:56 | SnipR | is there a place to find rockbox video files |
| 06:43:35 | BlueChip | people post news of their uploads on the mailing list, but there is no central resource :( |
| 06:44:05 | SnipR | we need a central recorce like on yahoo groups |
| 06:44:43 | BlueChip | feel free to set one up, but understand that you will have to debate where you stand on the copyright issue |
| 06:45:03 | BlueChip | debate->contemplate |
| 06:46:53 | SnipR | thats tru i didnt think about that |
| 06:59:01 | dwihno | http://rockboxvideo.redbreva.co.uk/ |
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| 07:05:58 | SnipR | ty |
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| 09:22:45 | BlueChip | Good morning amiconn, guru of all things C ...how much begging might it be appropriate for me to undertake by means of a request of you help in the area of pointer-to-function |
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| 09:32:21 | amiconn | BlueChip: Not really a guru imho... but anyway, what's your problem? |
| 09:33:05 | BlueChip | coverting my card engine to a lib - I need to pass ptr-to-fn, and I just can't suss ?SOMETHING? about the syntax |
| 09:33:46 | BlueChip | the best way I can think to show the problem may be to send you what won't compile atm |
| 09:34:42 | amiconn | Have a look at my grayscale lib (esp. gray_pixelfuncs.c, gray_blocksfuncs.c and others using the functions defined therein). I'm using function pointers there |
| 09:34:53 | amiconn | *gray_blockfuncs.c |
| 09:35:23 | BlueChip | ah dammit! is it in you pre-split code? |
| 09:36:01 | amiconn | yes it is |
| 09:36:05 | BlueChip | (need to cvsup, but don't fancy all the breaks right this min) |
| 09:37:19 | amiconn | The split version is the same as the pre-split one except for two constant definitions used within asm - these are duplicated in the split verison |
| 09:37:29 | BlueChip | hmmm, is there a fn() where you pass the pointer between functions? |
| 09:37:34 | BlueChip | understood |
| 09:38:21 | BlueChip | i need to pass the fn() pointer to my init routine, so deeper funcs can refer back up |
| 09:38:23 | amiconn | No, I'm not passing function pointers, but use an array of function pointers. |
| 09:39:11 | amiconn | The syntax for callback fn pointers is not different to other uses of fn pointers |
| 09:39:34 | BlueChip | I just can't see what I've got wrong - been through four tutorials so far |
| 09:39:39 | BlueChip | LOL |
| 09:41:28 | amiconn | Sorry, gotta hurry now, bbiaw |
| 09:41:37 | BlueChip | cheers dude - l8rz |
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| 09:45:07 | mattzz | morning |
| 09:45:13 | BlueChip | mornin' |
| 09:45:35 | mattzz | yesterday's daily build crashed greyscale stuff |
| 09:45:45 | BlueChip | ami's just left |
| 09:45:46 | mattzz | is there anything known to you? |
| 09:46:13 | BlueChip | it was converted to a lib yesterday - maybe half of it missed the daily biuld? |
| 09:47:17 | mattzz | hm, I will do a new compile |
| 09:47:40 | BlueChip | latest cvs might help? |
| 09:49:07 | mattzz | I have no CVS access here @ work - latest daily tarball will do hopefully |
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| 09:52:06 | midk | hey bcbc |
| 09:52:12 | BlueChip | mornin |
| 09:52:28 | mattzz | jpeg and mandelbrot are "no go" |
| 09:52:34 | BlueChip | oh! |
| 09:52:41 | BlueChip | in what way? |
| 09:53:11 | BlueChip | ...did you do a make clean? |
| 09:53:20 | mattzz | IllInstr stuff or plain hang |
| 09:53:33 | BlueChip | so it compiles okay, and then crashes - hmmm |
| 09:53:37 | mattzz | with yesterday's build |
| 09:53:47 | mattzz | just checking the 20040625 tarball |
| 09:54:05 | BlueChip | latest is essential |
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| 10:03:19 | mattzz | latest tarball gives blinking red LED for Mandelbrot... |
| 10:03:30 | mattzz | l8er |
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| 10:14:50 | Lynx | hi! |
| 10:15:42 | midk|sleep | hey |
| 10:20:44 | | Nick mattzz|away is now known as mattzz (~c2af7556@c160229.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 10:21:12 | mattzz | amiconn: u there? |
| 10:30:55 | Lynx | hmm, i have a directory called 'users |
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| 10:31:16 | Lynx | on my box that I can't read or delete |
| 10:31:42 | BlueChip | just checked the latest CVS, and grayscale *IS* broken :( |
| 10:31:44 | Lynx | Is 'users' a windows system folder, like the recycled? |
| 10:32:42 | mattzz | BlueChip: 20040625 tarball should be identical to latest CVS. Same result here. |
| 10:35:06 | mattzz | Mandbrot crashes after drawing the first gray_drawgraymap |
| 10:45:26 | BlueChip | greydemo dies immeditately and then does loads of weird and interesting stuff if you keep pressing the ON button |
| 10:49:39 | mattzz | Another thing: A colleague of mine was asking me if there was a chance of looping/repeating a mp3 without any pause between? |
| 10:50:15 | BlueChip | i think there's an repeat z-b patch on source forge |
| 10:50:21 | BlueChip | a-b |
| 10:50:21 | BlueChip | lol |
| 10:51:21 | mattzz | and repeating a whole mp3 always pauses for a short time, right? |
| 10:51:35 | mattzz | due to reloading the buffer/disk access I guess |
| 10:51:40 | BlueChip | not sure how it deals with loading the next mp3 |
| 10:52:23 | mattzz | I want that "repeat a-b" patch! |
| 10:53:49 | mattzz | ...but the patch is broken... |
| 10:54:03 | mattzz | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=796188 |
| 10:54:24 | BlueChip | most are - they get rejected - people stop maintaining them |
| 10:55:38 | mattzz | grrr |
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| 11:09:53 | amiconn | BlueChip: Grayscale *is not* broken. You have to "make clean" before "make" though. |
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| 11:20:19 | mattzz | re |
| 11:20:34 | mattzz | amiconn: I did a fresh compile from the daily build tar file |
| 11:21:07 | mattzz | (with cygwin) |
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| 11:35:24 | amiconn | mattzz: Then check the following: (1) do "make clean", (2) look into your build dir if there is a "gray.o" left over -> delete it |
| 11:35:41 | BlueChip | tried from a clean cvs already |
| 11:36:06 | BlueChip | matzz tried from a clean daily tarball |
| 11:40:23 | mattzz | no gray.o after make clean |
| 11:43:24 | amiconn | This is strange - it works perfectly for me (tested all grayscale plugins, including a test plugin of mine) |
| 11:44:31 | BlueChip | did you also try a clean cvs? |
| 11:50:25 | mattzz | And no gray.o before "make clean" |
| 11:51:07 | amiconn | Not yet, since I usually work off my local cvs copy. |
| 11:51:47 | BlueChip | aha - this may be the source of the confusion? |
| 11:52:18 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 11:52:18 | * | amiconn is downloading the latest daily tarball |
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| 11:54:02 | BlueChip | thanks for the bug report limbus - noted and fixed - new release asap |
| 11:54:14 | lImbus | np |
| 11:54:22 | lImbus | was I the first one to mention that ? |
| 11:54:26 | BlueChip | yep :) |
| 11:55:04 | lImbus | so I should REALLY take in consideration to check it with windows2003 |
| 11:55:26 | BlueChip | which bit? |
| 11:55:53 | lImbus | it, the devkit |
| 11:56:12 | lImbus | this was only winXP up to now. |
| 11:56:13 | BlueChip | take ?? into consideration, sorry |
| 11:56:46 | BlueChip | you listed a few points, got my head full of cooking breakfast and card library atm |
| 11:57:19 | lImbus | ok, no problem. sit down, relax. cup of green tea, chillin music |
| 11:57:51 | BlueChip | do you want the updated stuff? |
| 11:58:20 | lImbus | if that cygwin-username-thing is fixed, I can distribute it. |
| 11:58:38 | BlueChip | the docs are updated to tell you that you are guest |
| 11:58:41 | lImbus | I got 4 new archos recorders yesterday, and my coworkers (all developers) are keen on hacking |
| 11:58:54 | BlueChip | <envy> |
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| 12:00:11 | lImbus | the devices are not for me. I ordered them to save shipping costs. those mates are getting them all, but one. I needed so hard to get a flasheable with USB2 ;-) |
| 12:00:34 | BlueChip | ;) devious! |
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| 12:01:01 | RV|WRK | morning |
| 12:01:19 | BlueChip | mornin |
| 12:01:45 | RV|WRK | may i ask cvs q pls BlueChip |
| 12:02:02 | BlueChip | v quick - about to cook breakfast |
| 12:03:05 | RV|WRK | :) using midk's cygwin setup in windows, trying to download a certain build via cvs, syntax cvs -D:builddate then normal -d:logoninfo ? |
| 12:04:33 | RV|WRK | Anonymous read-only checkout |
| 12:04:33 | RV|WRK | If you are not a registered developer, use this method. When asked for a password, just press enter: |
| 12:04:33 | RV|WRK | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox login |
| 12:04:33 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK RV|WRK |
| 12:04:33 | RV|WRK | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox |
| 12:04:33 | RV|WRK | A "rockbox" directory will be created in your current directory, and all the directories and source files go there. |
| 12:04:48 | BlueChip | midk's cygwin??? didn't know he had started maintaining one! |
| 12:05:20 | RV|WRK | hmm sur eit was he who gave me a link to a website with it on# |
| 12:05:21 | BlueChip | there is a full doc on my web page http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems |
| 12:05:45 | BlueChip | right at the bottom of that doc is probably the summary you seek |
| 12:05:47 | RV|WRK | lol my apologies, it was you |
| 12:05:51 | BlueChip | lol |
| 12:06:06 | RV|WRK | ahh was talkin to him b4 u came in i think |
| 12:06:28 | BlueChip | When I get back from breakfast, I will upload v3.02 which has a "cvsget" script |
| 12:06:53 | RV|WRK | ahh sounds usefull |
| 12:07:10 | BlueChip | and also loads of little things like DELETE key works, etc. |
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| 12:07:31 | BC|eating | c u in a while :) |
| 12:08:28 | lImbus | BC|eating: I'll take and distribute that package. here at work dcc won't work anyway. btw: enjoy your meal. |
| 12:09:30 | RV|WRK | lol @ delete key , just found that :) |
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| 13:01:20 | BC|eating | devkit 302 will be up in a few minutes... |
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| 13:08:44 | BluChip | T-4:20 |
| 13:10:21 | RV|WRK | hmm can cvs be used to get other versions other than the newest build then ? |
| 13:13:36 | BluChip | i guess so, but no idea how |
| 13:13:58 | RV|WRK | lol ok |
| 13:14:18 | BluChip | cvs −−help ? LOL |
| 13:14:38 | BluChip | google for "man cvs" ? |
| 13:14:44 | RV|WRK | think its to do with the cvd -D date flag |
| 13:15:01 | BluChip | not done on version numbers? |
| 13:15:44 | lImbus | you shoudl (both) install WinCVS then |
| 13:15:50 | lImbus | should, indeed |
| 13:16:00 | lImbus | it eases up your life a LOT |
| 13:16:47 | lImbus | even if you are comfortable with commandline-tools. |
| 13:16:58 | RV|WRK | can i get a specific date build with it |
| 13:19:32 | lImbus | mhmm. let's try |
| 13:20:07 | lImbus | ohh, yes of course. |
| 13:20:11 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 13:20:11 | * | lImbus feels dumb |
| 13:20:15 | lImbus | sticky options. |
| 13:22:11 | * | RV|WRK is grabbing |
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| 14:06:47 | mattzz | any news regarding the grayscale problem? |
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| 14:09:12 | amiconn | mattzz: Tried compilation with the latest daily tarball and a fresh build dir - the compiled plugins are byte-by-byte identical to my other compilation, which runs just fine |
| 14:10:27 | BluChip | hmm, not good |
| 14:10:38 | mattzz | could that have something to do with the cygwin environment? |
| 14:10:45 | BluChip | can you ad32 your .rock |
| 14:11:33 | mattzz | ad32? |
| 14:11:51 | BluChip | mark adler's (he of gzip) answer to crc |
| 14:12:14 | BluChip | i suppose md5 is a more modern choice |
| 14:13:18 | mattzz | 395d93640556023d46be0adb11eff26f *gray_core.o |
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| 14:13:53 | BluChip | what about the .rock ..it is that which crashes the target |
| 14:14:06 | mattzz | argh, sorry |
| 14:14:39 | mattzz | de1e9c9c921308c31ccbf10658a65e08 *mandelbrot.rock |
| 14:14:44 | mattzz | (md5sum |
| 14:14:45 | mattzz | ) |
| 14:15:11 | mattzz | 39c67cc5fe3ae6999af305a8676baffa *jpeg.rock |
| 14:15:46 | BluChip | identical here for madelbrot |
| 14:17:36 | mattzz | madel is bavarian german for girl ;-) |
| 14:18:29 | BluChip | let's hope that brot is bavarian for "willing" :) |
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| 14:21:00 | mattzz | BluChip: errrrrm, not exactly (brot -> bread).... tasty though. |
| 14:21:44 | BluChip | yummy, my favourite, girl-bread :) |
| 14:21:56 | BluChip | LOL |
| 14:22:17 | BluChip | I shall resist the CheeseCake joke |
| 14:22:27 | mattzz | gotta be away for a few minutes.. |
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| 14:23:39 | | Join Quest [0] (~Quest@host62-7-150-143.webport.bt.net) |
| 14:25:31 | Quest | Hey all |
| 14:25:56 | BluChip | hey |
| 14:27:35 | lImbus | hoi |
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| 14:49:17 | Quest | Someone: In http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html , FAQ item 9 has a broken link in it |
| 14:49:43 | amiconn | mattzz|away, BluChip: 83930af513e3425133c8cdf08fe59772 *mandelbrot.rock |
| 14:50:01 | BluChip | there's the problem |
| 14:50:11 | amiconn | 84f6a0f3f31f6f0b809d6f3dab1c3416 *jpeg.rock |
| 14:50:36 | amiconn | (md5sum values) mandelbrot.rock is 3612 bytes, jpeg.rock is 26700 bytes |
| 14:57:53 | BluChip | we have different results |
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| 15:01:05 | amiconn | This is when building for recorder v1, from rockbox-daily-20040625, with a clean build directory |
| 15:01:38 | amiconn | The same result when buildung from my usual cvs directory |
| 15:01:44 | BluChip | oh well |
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| 15:19:22 | | Nick mattzz|away is now known as mattzz (~c2af7555@c160229.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 15:19:47 | mattzz | $ gcc −−version |
| 15:19:48 | mattzz | gcc (GCC) 3.3.1 (cygming special) |
| 15:19:59 | mattzz | $ gcc −−version |
| 15:19:59 | mattzz | gcc (GCC) 3.3.1 (cygming special) |
| 15:20:13 | bc|bbl | as specified by Linus |
| 15:20:13 | mattzz | oops, sorry, didn't ment to paste twice |
| 15:22:58 | lImbus | geeeeez. I just wasted a few hours on a baaad mistake: I opened my old and my new recorder to swap the large hard drive (40GB) to the new unit. it took approx 1 hour, I was almost done when following happened: |
| 15:23:12 | lImbus | I was just about to put back in place those tiny black screws. |
| 15:24:24 | lImbus | for easier handling, I stand up the recorder on the table, on his front to get it easier. then, one of the black screws dropped from my magnetic screwdriver, fell in the line-in-socket and dissapeared. |
| 15:25:09 | lImbus | I had to REOPEN the complete unit and separate the "core" which I never did before to get that $%&%& screw back |
| 15:25:44 | lImbus | lesson: never ever stand up the device when reassembling. |
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| 15:31:46 | intQuest | Sorry, I D/C'ed (This is Quest) |
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| 15:54:24 | lImbus | no applause ? |
| 15:55:20 | * | bc|bbl is p**ed off cos he cant get his new lib to compile |
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| 19:06:23 | dstar5 | bc|bbl, there? |
| 19:06:29 | midk | HI DIDS |
| 19:06:34 | | Nick bc|bbl is now known as BC (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 19:06:38 | midk | yay bcbc |
| 19:06:47 | midk | morning. |
| 19:09:39 | BC | hey |
| 19:09:50 | BC | dstar5? |
| 19:09:57 | dstar5 | BC: got that devkit :) |
| 19:10:06 | dstar5 | i have no cygwin at all atm, so i can test :) |
| 19:10:24 | BC | cool - good luck :) |
| 19:10:48 | dstar5 | where is the kit? |
| 19:11:11 | BC | on my site |
| 19:11:18 | dstar5 | ok |
| 19:11:54 | * | dstar5 has the song Little Red Riding Hood by Rolling Stones stuck in his head |
| 19:13:09 | dstar5 | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/bluechip |
| 19:13:10 | dstar5 | ? |
| 19:13:15 | dstar5 | i can never remember it |
| 19:13:25 | dstar5 | i will bookmark it this time :) |
| 19:13:37 | BC | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems |
| 19:16:18 | dstar5 | whoa |
| 19:16:25 | dstar5 | your starfield looks awsome dude |
| 19:16:30 | BC | :) |
| 19:17:41 | dstar5 | your the best coder rockbox ever had :) |
| 19:17:51 | dstar5 | but you are not vredited... and your work gets removed |
| 19:18:08 | BC | lol - c'est la vie |
| 19:18:58 | dstar5 | what was with the blind stuff in the mailing list i did not look at that well |
| 19:19:01 | dstar5 | are you blind? |
| 19:19:04 | BC | no |
| 19:19:34 | BC | that'd be impressive - lol, blind guy writes othelo |
| 19:20:01 | dstar5 | heh |
| 19:20:09 | dstar5 | you could be in the world records! |
| 19:20:18 | dstar5 | first person to code othelo BLIND! |
| 19:20:28 | midk | HA |
| 19:21:21 | midk | although i think "first blind person to code for open source mp3 jukebox firmware" sounds a bit more impressive |
| 19:22:42 | | Nick midk is now known as midk|shower (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 19:24:04 | BC | only dirty people wash |
| 19:24:20 | BC | ...and obsessive compulsives |
| 19:24:34 | midk|shower | lol |
| 19:24:44 | midk|shower | bc we already talked about what shower means for midk |
| 19:32:18 | dstar5 | HA! http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/Card_Magic/Card_Magic.htm : What You Are About To See Here |
| 19:32:18 | dstar5 | Might Help You Win A Lot of Mon£y |
| 19:37:47 | midk|shower | ribbon spread run and close = wowww |
| 19:39:58 | BC | lol - fancy a game of cards? |
| 19:40:23 | midk|shower | no ty. |
| 19:40:27 | dstar5 | yes i do |
| 19:42:49 | dstar5 | i am playing internet spades now |
| 19:43:02 | midk|shower | WOW COOOOOOOOL |
| 19:43:17 | dstar5 | i know! |
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| 20:14:55 | dstar5 | midk, you took your puter into the shower? |
| 20:16:02 | midk | no..... |
| 20:19:42 | dstar5 | i need t go take a shower i am going some place for lunch |
| 20:19:48 | dstar5 | see you :) |
| 20:20:06 | midk | -* |
| 20:20:13 | midk | .. |
| 20:20:15 | midk | ok? |
| 20:20:20 | midk | really |
| 20:20:21 | midk | ? |
| 20:20:27 | dstar5 | yes |
| 20:20:29 | midk | oh |
| 20:20:29 | midk | ok |
| 20:20:30 | dstar5 | ok |
| 20:20:30 | midk | cyaq |
| 20:20:31 | dstar5 | byebye |
| 20:20:38 | midk | bye' |
| 20:20:46 | BC | bye whoever |
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| 20:27:08 | amiconn | BC: Did you get grayscale to behave in the meantime? I compared my compilations with the official daily build - all 3 plugins deliver equal md5sums |
| 20:27:39 | BC | i got a feeling its the new sh-1 compiler I was told to use :( |
| 20:28:07 | BC | but smashing my head against gcc bugs atm |
| 20:28:28 | BC | structure packing is f***ed is you extern a struct with a bool in |
| 20:28:52 | BC | you can but guess how long THAT took to find |
| 20:29:35 | amiconn | sh-elf-gcc -v −−> gcc version 3.0.4 |
| 20:29:58 | BC | gcc version 3.3.1 (cygming special) |
| 20:31:24 | BC | think we need to chat to the dude who maintains the sh-1 compiler |
| 20:31:29 | amiconn | Why are you using 3.3.1? Did I miss something, is this the new official rockbox compiler version? |
| 20:31:30 | BC | some french bloke |
| 20:32:03 | BC | if you follow the rockbox cygwin instructions - that is the version you will run - specified to get from a specific site |
| 20:32:51 | BC | i notice none of the big boys have been in today |
| 20:33:22 | amiconn | Hmm. I did follow the instructions some time ago - there was a binary package to download, which contained version 3.0.4 |
| 20:34:15 | amiconn | It seems that this is the version that is still used for the official compilations, since my binaries are identical to the official ones |
| 20:40:38 | amiconn | BC: Do rockbox and other plugins work correctly if compiled with sh-gcc 3.3.1? |
| 20:41:20 | BC | yep |
| 20:42:20 | amiconn | Hmm. I'll setup a test environment with cygwin/sh-gcc 3.3.1 and see what I can do. |
| 20:44:25 | BC | I'm just doing the same the other way around here |
| 20:44:42 | BC | ARGH |
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| 20:45:25 | BC | export/kernel.h:44: parse error before "__builtin_isgreater" |
| 20:46:17 | zaser | hello |
| 20:46:22 | BC | hello |
| 20:46:33 | midk | hi sir!!! |
| 20:46:44 | zaser | i got some questions about my recorder v2 |
| 20:47:10 | BC | we can tell ;) |
| 20:47:14 | zaser | can someone help me out |
| 20:47:28 | BC | really depends on what the problems are |
| 20:47:52 | zaser | for some reason, my recorder won't play |
| 20:48:09 | BC | does it work with archos firmware? |
| 20:49:22 | zaser | i choose one of my mp3s and all it does is take 15sec jumps on the song until it goes to the other song |
| 20:49:46 | zaser | but you can't hear a thing |
| 20:50:08 | zaser | my original problem was that is wouldn't boot up at all |
| 20:51:04 | zaser | when it was working, i had rockbox on. Then i tried plugging some speakers into it and it started giving me problems |
| 20:51:38 | zaser | first it would do the same thing it's doing right now, skip through out the song |
| 20:51:47 | BC | does it work with archos firmware? |
| 20:51:57 | zaser | so that's when i decided to take rockbox out |
| 20:52:33 | zaser | after i did, it didn't get past the half point on the loading bar with the original archos firmware |
| 20:52:46 | BC | so that;s a no? |
| 20:52:51 | zaser | no |
| 20:53:16 | BC | so it's a yes? |
| 20:53:18 | zaser | with the original archos firmware, it wouldnt even boot all the way |
| 20:53:28 | BC | then you have h/w problems |
| 20:53:37 | BC | did you say v2/fm? |
| 20:54:08 | zaser | i got it as a v2, but the board says it's a JBR-FM v2.2 |
| 20:54:21 | BC | i reckon the battery needs re-seating |
| 20:54:31 | zaser | tried that so many times |
| 20:54:33 | BC | especially if you have had it apart |
| 20:54:41 | BC | hm |
| 20:54:58 | zaser | when you say re-seating, what do you mean |
| 20:55:20 | zaser | right now, i put rockbox back on |
| 20:55:33 | BC | remove battery, degrease everything, ensure good connection when replaced |
| 20:55:47 | BC | does it make any difference if you sqeeze the sides? |
| 20:55:55 | zaser | this time it boots all the way to the point where i can browse through my mp3s, but it takes a long ass time |
| 20:56:02 | zaser | no |
| 20:56:29 | BC | hmm, sorry, if it's more major than the battery, it's beyond me :( |
| 20:56:35 | zaser | i can do everything it's supposed to do, except play music |
| 20:56:58 | zaser | at this moment, i got it plug into my computer through the usb |
| 20:57:26 | zaser | i can play music off of it through the computer, so the HDD works |
| 20:57:46 | zaser | and i doubt it being the hardware since it's on USB right now |
| 20:58:42 | BC | but the archos firmware fails? |
| 20:58:48 | zaser | yes |
| 20:58:57 | BC | if their f/w fails, then I'd really have to say hardware |
| 20:59:14 | zaser | i downloaded it twice off of the archos website |
| 20:59:36 | BC | yes, more indicators that the firmware is good |
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| 21:01:11 | zaser | so what could be the problem |
| 21:01:42 | BC | sadly, if it's more major than the battery, it's beyond me :( |
| 21:02:55 | zaser | any suggestions |
| 21:03:36 | BC | look for dry solder joints & bad connections - degrease everything - make sure it is together properly |
| 21:14:01 | zaser | other than that |
| 21:15:34 | BC | sadly, if it's more major than the battery, it's beyond me :( |
| 21:16:05 | BC | sorry dude, I went out of my way to buy a V1 |
| 21:19:52 | midk | hey bcbc |
| 21:20:11 | * | BC needs fodd |
| 21:20:13 | amiconn | BC: Did the grayscale plugins compiled with gcc 3.3.1 work before my library split? |
| 21:20:27 | BC | sorry mate, no idea |
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| 21:29:53 | midk | LOL |
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| 21:45:34 | amiconn | jeez - gcc 3.3.1 is da space-saver |
| 21:47:28 | midk | no swearing or being "da cool" amiconn. |
| 21:47:30 | midk | :D hk |
| 21:47:32 | midk | jk** |
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| 22:19:02 | amiconn | BC: u there? |
| 22:22:53 | midk | i am |
| 22:23:23 | bc|feeding | just back |
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| 22:23:44 | amiconn | It seems I found the problem why grayscale doesn't work anymore with gcc 3.3.1 |
| 22:23:52 | BC | oh yes? |
| 22:24:16 | amiconn | Obviously gcc 3.3.1 does some more optimizations than gcc 3.0.4: |
| 22:24:25 | BC | ahaaa |
| 22:24:38 | BC | it's arguing with your assembler? |
| 22:24:59 | amiconn | Gcc 3.0.4 used to always push the pr register onto the stack at the beginning of every function, and restore it at the end. |
| 22:25:14 | BC | ouch! |
| 22:25:34 | amiconn | Gcc 3.3.1 optimizes this away if (it thinks that) no other function is called from this one. |
| 22:25:54 | BC | what do you cosider to be the correct solution to this predicament? |
| 22:25:56 | amiconn | Bummer - my asm calls a subroutine without gcc noticing! |
| 22:26:09 | amiconn | I try to verify this atm |
| 22:26:31 | BC | cast the call to a pointer-to-function? |
| 22:27:02 | BC | effective do_nothing, that indicates the secret function |
| 22:27:06 | amiconn | No, it calls a subroutine directly from asm (via jsr) |
| 22:27:21 | BC | as in (void)unused_pram |
| 22:31:29 | amiconn | I'm currently adding the push/pop of pr to the asm routines, this should fix it on 3.3.1. It shouldn't hurt on 3.0.4 other than it adds 4 instructions (8 bytes) in total. |
| 22:32:14 | BC | no #if version==3.3.1 ? |
| 22:32:54 | amiconn | I don't know with which version of gcc this optimization was introduced... |
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| 22:33:39 | BC | /* somwhere between 304 and 331 you need this... */ |
| 22:34:31 | amiconn | Imho this optimization by the new gcc is A Good Thing (tm), and adding the push/pop of pr is cleaner coding anyway |
| 22:36:55 | BC | cool :) |
| 22:37:18 | amiconn | With the added instructions all grayscale plugins do work now when compiled with gcc 3.3.1 |
| 22:37:42 | BC | hope this doesn't hit anywhere else |
| 22:37:48 | amiconn | Why the grayscale demo is ~2.5% slower is beyond me.. |
| 22:38:13 | BC | hmmm, that's not good |
| 22:38:52 | amiconn | However, this does not come from adding these instructions, because I only re-added what the new gcc hit away |
| 22:40:07 | BC | is it your fn()s are slower, or the rest of the system? |
| 22:42:27 | amiconn | It seems to be that it has a cause within the plugin itself - it doesn't change if I run the gcc331-compiled plugin with gcc304-compiled rockbox |
| 22:43:34 | BC | well, given the choice, I consider that option to be the better news |
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| 23:03:53 | amiconn | BC: fix committed. |
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| 23:58:51 | iSheep | hi guys |
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