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| 00:54:39 | BlueChip | mk? |
| 00:54:54 | midk | yaya. |
| 00:55:08 | BlueChip | u using devkit 3? |
| 00:55:27 | midk | no |
| 00:55:30 | BlueChip | ok |
| 00:55:34 | midk | full cygwin, remember? |
| 00:55:40 | midk | you made me, sir. |
| 00:55:51 | BlueChip | lol |
| 00:56:25 | BlueChip | want some cool keyboard macros? |
| 00:56:30 | midk | ooh like |
| 00:56:35 | midk | *presses P |
| 00:56:43 | midk | and |
| 00:56:43 | midk | er |
| 00:56:44 | midk | nm |
| 00:56:48 | midk | possibly? |
| 00:57:23 | midk | whuh do i doo |
| 00:57:33 | BlueChip | place both files in your home directory and press ^x ^r |
| 00:58:05 | BlueChip | then press f1 |
| 00:58:31 | midk | whuh to dooo |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:51 | BlueChip | like? |
| 01:01:14 | midk | doesnt woooork |
| 01:01:25 | BlueChip | where did you put the two files? |
| 01:01:41 | midk | cygwin\home |
| 01:02:08 | BlueChip | /home/username |
| 01:02:16 | midk | ... |
| 01:02:35 | midk | just forget it, bcbc. |
| 01:02:44 | BlueChip | fogotten |
| 01:03:49 | midk | yay |
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| 01:12:30 | lImbus | Hi BlueChip, i am back ;-) |
| 01:12:35 | BlueChip | hey dude |
| 01:12:41 | BlueChip | how did it all go :) |
| 01:13:01 | BlueChip | I've got some fine-n-dandy keyboard macros to add to the devkit :) |
| 01:13:09 | lImbus | hey |
| 01:13:28 | BlueChip | Just debugging the lcd functions in the card engine |
| 01:13:37 | BlueChip | wanna try the kbd macros? |
| 01:13:58 | lImbus | ok. I havn't had a look at the lcd-stuff yet |
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| 01:14:44 | BlueChip | slap 'em in the guest directory |
| 01:14:49 | lImbus | you could also add the VisualProject2003-File I assembled for editing rockbox. needs a custom build step still |
| 01:15:06 | lImbus | but for the ones that do not like eclipse |
| 01:15:29 | BlueChip | no use to me, but if it is of use to others, I would happily append it :) |
| 01:16:15 | lImbus | there is just one spoiler: it can't add automatically files that have been added to the directory |
| 01:16:37 | BlueChip | auto-script thingie? |
| 01:17:21 | lImbus | don't think so. I'm not keen on writing some VS.net-Macros either |
| 01:18:00 | lImbus | Let me know if you get feedback for the vcproj-file so I can learn and improve. |
| 01:18:12 | lImbus | the file has to be saved to the ~ simply |
| 01:18:30 | lImbus | uses relative paths from there. does not compile yet. |
| 01:18:33 | BlueChip | it's all in text - shouldn't be too hard to put together a updater program |
| 01:19:18 | lImbus | ehh, of course. but don't think you could save on one of the empty xml-thingies. VS.NET hates such optimisations. |
| 01:19:34 | BlueChip | lol |
| 01:20:10 | lImbus | yeah, it's a bummer. it then just fails to open the project. can't recover from any dustcorn |
| 01:20:32 | BlueChip | does the srouce need to be in a specific directory? |
| 01:22:40 | lImbus | ehh ? which source ? the relative paths written in the .vcproj are relative to the location of the .vcproj |
| 01:23:09 | lImbus | I have rockbox.vcproj in ~/ and then ~/apps and so on |
| 01:23:30 | BlueChip | oh right! you work like that - ouch! |
| 01:24:02 | lImbus | ouch ? what hurt you ? |
| 01:24:04 | BlueChip | that'll be confusing to anyone who followed the directions |
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| 01:24:55 | lImbus | ok, if you got it like your devkit-direction, it has to lay in ~/tarball/ (aka /cygwin/home/guest/tarball/ |
| 01:25:30 | lImbus | i am still using the OLD devkit on my laptop here at home. got that devkit 302 only at work |
| 01:25:44 | BlueChip | old dev kit said the same thing :P |
| 01:25:52 | lImbus | oops |
| 01:26:02 | BlueChip | nice try ;) |
| 01:26:17 | BlueChip | i believe the rockbox directions also say the same |
| 01:26:27 | lImbus | i must have been to handy with cygwin and cvs to read any directions. does that count ? |
| 01:26:57 | BlueChip | how did you get cvs to check out rockbox-devel without creating the rockbox-devel directory? |
| 01:27:23 | LinusN | 'cvs co rockbox-devel' |
| 01:27:36 | BlueChip | werid |
| 01:27:38 | BlueChip | weird |
| 01:27:51 | lImbus | mhmm. most probably with cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox update -dP |
| 01:28:04 | lImbus | IN my ~ of course |
| 01:28:26 | BlueChip | I shall try that later |
| 01:28:46 | BlueChip | still, different is good too |
| 01:28:50 | BlueChip | :) |
| 01:29:05 | lImbus | cvs is such a fun if you know how to use. |
| 01:29:29 | lImbus | i'm just writing a cvs-blamer based on 'cvs annotate' |
| 01:29:31 | BlueChip | I'll stick to porn & beer thanks ;) |
| 01:29:39 | lImbus | hehe |
| 01:29:54 | lImbus | i actually got a beer myself too here |
| 01:29:59 | midk | later |
| 01:30:05 | | Quit midk ("just STOP it arspy") |
| 01:30:06 | BlueChip | it is :) |
| 01:30:13 | lImbus | lol |
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| 01:33:39 | Danny_from_fr | Hello everybody |
| 01:33:42 | LinusN | hi |
| 01:33:49 | lImbus | hi |
| 01:33:51 | Danny_from_fr | I have RED LED bug |
| 01:33:55 | Danny_from_fr | on my JFM |
| 01:34:01 | lImbus | bad. bot |
| 01:34:03 | lImbus | both |
| 01:34:15 | Danny_from_fr | ? |
| 01:34:21 | Danny_from_fr | Do you have some solutions? |
| 01:34:32 | LinusN | Danny_from_fr: try the latest daily build |
| 01:34:32 | Danny_from_fr | I use only daily builds |
| 01:34:37 | Danny_from_fr | I tryed |
| 01:34:46 | lImbus | I don't like the FM after all I heard. |
| 01:34:50 | LinusN | Danny_from_fr: it is a hardware problem |
| 01:34:57 | Danny_from_fr | HDD problem? |
| 01:34:59 | LinusN | your hard drive is sensitive to shock |
| 01:35:12 | Danny_from_fr | I Heard about DK23DA incompatibility? |
| 01:35:17 | LinusN | bingo |
| 01:35:28 | Danny_from_fr | so what can I do? |
| 01:35:34 | dstar5 | my unit has that hd |
| 01:35:36 | LinusN | even the original firmware has problems |
| 01:35:39 | dstar5 | i have not had the bug |
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| 01:35:48 | Danny_from_fr | umm |
| 01:36:09 | LinusN | dstar5: lucky you |
| 01:36:26 | Danny_from_fr | Maybe there some solutions? |
| 01:36:28 | Danny_from_fr | :( |
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| 01:36:31 | Danny_from_fr | I like rockbox |
| 01:36:46 | LinusN | Danny_from_fr: i have heard of a firmware upgrade for the HD itself |
| 01:37:09 | Danny_from_fr | cooool |
| 01:37:14 | Danny_from_fr | where can i find it?? |
| 01:37:20 | LinusN | i don't know |
| 01:37:26 | Danny_from_fr | sorry for my english |
| 01:37:27 | Danny_from_fr | :) |
| 01:37:33 | Danny_from_fr | I'm franco-russian |
| 01:37:41 | LinusN | your english is perfectly understandable to me |
| 01:37:47 | Danny_from_fr | thnx |
| 01:38:13 | Danny_from_fr | Somebody knows where can I find the firmware for DK23DA? |
| 01:38:34 | LinusN | hitachi, perhaps? |
| 01:38:39 | Danny_from_fr | yes |
| 01:38:43 | Danny_from_fr | hitachi |
| 01:38:51 | Danny_from_fr | perhaps? what is it? |
| 01:38:58 | lImbus | peut etre |
| 01:39:12 | Danny_from_fr | ca serai tres cool |
| 01:39:39 | lImbus | let's keep it english ;-) perhap means "peut-être" |
| 01:39:47 | Danny_from_fr | ok lol |
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| 01:41:20 | dstar5 | Danny_from_fr, i think i have found a update |
| 01:41:25 | dstar5 | hold on one sec |
| 01:41:29 | Danny_from_fr | ok |
| 01:42:31 | dstar5 | http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-41008.html |
| 01:42:42 | dstar5 | this update says it supports that disk |
| 01:43:54 | dstar5 | it takes 14 diskets for some weird reason... |
| 01:44:03 | dstar5 | should just use a cd... |
| 01:44:31 | Danny_from_fr | ... |
| 01:44:32 | Danny_from_fr | yes I see |
| 01:44:42 | Danny_from_fr | I don't have any diskets |
| 01:44:45 | Danny_from_fr | :P |
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| 01:45:06 | dstar5 | heh neither do I |
| 01:45:14 | Danny_from_fr | :) |
| 01:45:41 | Guest1 | whenever i put rockbox on my jukebox it says something about the dir buffer full or something |
| 01:45:45 | Guest1 | any help? |
| 01:46:15 | BlueChip | increase buffer size in menu, or split files up over multiple directories :) |
| 01:46:16 | lImbus | lemme see. there is a dir buffer setting somewhere |
| 01:46:59 | Guest1 | i increased the buffer size to 300 but after restarting it , it said 50 again |
| 01:47:10 | Danny_from_fr | save |
| 01:47:13 | Danny_from_fr | config |
| 01:47:13 | Guest1 | and wouldnt let me see my files |
| 01:47:14 | Danny_from_fr | file |
| 01:47:20 | dstar5 | Guest1, try goign into a folder or something after you change the setting |
| 01:47:34 | Guest1 | it doesnt even show my folders though |
| 01:47:43 | BlueChip | run a plugin? |
| 01:47:59 | BlueChip | anything to make the disk spin up |
| 01:48:11 | LinusN | Guest1: you didn't install rockbox properly |
| 01:48:21 | Guest1 | how should i install it |
| 01:48:39 | LinusN | unzip *the entire* zip file to the jukebox root dir |
| 01:48:50 | LinusN | ahaaaaa |
| 01:48:55 | LinusN | you installed 2.2, right? |
| 01:48:59 | Guest1 | ya |
| 01:49:13 | LinusN | ok, there is a bug in 2.2 that hits first-time installers |
| 01:49:21 | Guest1 | all i did was download it then but the file onto the jukebox |
| 01:49:22 | LinusN | try the latest daily build instead |
| 01:49:31 | Guest1 | ok |
| 01:49:32 | LinusN | "put the file"? |
| 01:49:47 | Guest1 | ya my bad |
| 01:49:52 | Guest1 | *put the file |
| 01:50:07 | LinusN | i mean, did you unzip the entire zip file? |
| 01:50:10 | Guest1 | will the daily build hurt it though cause of its bugs? |
| 01:50:15 | Danny_from_fr | look at this pliz http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=psg1MIGR-45282 |
| 01:50:32 | LinusN | Guest1: there are most likely more bugs in 2.2 than the daily build :-) |
| 01:51:35 | | Quit Danny_from_fr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 01:52:01 | Guest1 | ill try the daily build |
| 01:52:36 | LinusN | Guest1: do so |
| 01:53:53 | Guest1 | it works? |
| 01:53:59 | Guest1 | i mean it works! |
| 01:54:17 | Guest1 | any idea why the battery meter has a ? in it though |
| 01:54:42 | LinusN | yes, it doesn't know the battery status until after a minute or so |
| 01:54:55 | Guest1 | o ok |
| 01:56:49 | Guest1 | when i shut it off is it supposed to just shut off or is there a shutdown screen like on the archos os |
| 01:57:12 | LinusN | no, there is no shutdown screen in rockbox |
| 01:57:21 | Guest1 | k just checking |
| 01:58:03 | Guest1 | and my jukebox is fully charged but it only reads as half full |
| 01:58:38 | Guest1 | also am i supposed to put a rickbox directory or something on to it? |
| 01:58:50 | lImbus | then you may check if the configured battery capacity corresponds to the batteries used. |
| 01:58:57 | LinusN | Guest1: if you installed it correctly, the .rockbox folder will be there |
| 01:59:41 | lImbus | concerning the .rockbox-directory: if you unpacked the archive, it will be there, but not shown, as directories starting with dots are hidden. |
| 01:59:48 | Guest1 | i dragged the ajbrec.ajz into the jukebox |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:15 | lImbus | Guest1, you REALLY should unpack the whole archive |
| 02:00:16 | Guest1 | is that all i was supposed to do |
| 02:00:16 | LinusN | Guest1: why didn't you follow the instructions? |
| 02:00:26 | lImbus | either viewer-plugins will not work |
| 02:00:39 | Guest1 | well what should i do to fix it |
| 02:00:50 | LinusN | Guest1: READ THE INSTRUCTIONS |
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| 02:01:06 | Guest1 | i did it said to unzip the file but im not sure how to do that |
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| 02:01:52 | LinusN | but you managed to unzip the ajbrec.ajz file? |
| 02:02:05 | LinusN | so why didn't you unzip the rest as well? |
| 02:02:20 | Guest1 | i dont know if i unzipped it all i know is that i put it into the jukebox i didnt do anything to it |
| 02:02:55 | LinusN | instead of dragging the ajbrec.ajz file, you should have dragged all the files in the zip file |
| 02:03:31 | LinusN | or select "extract all" or whatever it may say in your GUI |
| 02:03:51 | Guest1 | do i do anything with rockbox.ucl |
| 02:04:09 | LinusN | nope, not at this point |
| 02:04:12 | lImbus | Guest1, which operating system are you using ? did you install furter programs for archive handling ? (winrar does NOT rebuild the directories) |
| 02:04:30 | BlueChip | nite all |
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| 02:08:15 | Guest1 | im relly confused on what im suppoesd to be doing, apparently i didnt have winzip so i just downloaded that and tried to unzip ir |
| 02:08:20 | Guest1 | it* |
| 02:08:32 | lImbus | that should be ok |
| 02:08:50 | Guest1 | once i put it through winzip should i put it in the jukebox again? |
| 02:08:55 | lImbus | but you only unzipped a part of it, not all |
| 02:09:04 | Guest1 | how do i do all of it |
| 02:09:24 | lImbus | let's try it in french offside the channel. pm |
| 02:10:07 | Guest1 | i dont speak french |
| 02:10:24 | lImbus | ohh sorry, I thought you was the guy speaking french |
| 02:10:30 | Guest1 | its ok |
| 02:10:42 | Guest1 | how do i unzip all of it |
| 02:11:04 | lImbus | what do you see on your box if it's connected to your pc. what's on that drive ? |
| 02:11:35 | Guest1 | u mean what is my archos called if its connected? |
| 02:12:09 | lImbus | err, ok, we can start with that either. I meant to list the files/directories already on the drive |
| 02:12:54 | Guest1 | im relly not computer savvy so i have no idea how to anwser that |
| 02:13:33 | Guest1 | hey thanks for helping but i gotta go |
| 02:13:42 | lImbus | euh ? |
| 02:13:47 | | Quit Guest1 ("Leaving") |
| 02:13:51 | dstar5 | :P |
| 02:13:54 | lImbus | well then. seems to be not so imporant |
| 02:14:01 | dstar5 | i wish people knew about computers more |
| 02:14:23 | lImbus | I don't blame him. but it would be nice, of course |
| 02:15:01 | lImbus | quite embarassing I confused him with Danny_from_fr |
| 02:15:44 | LinusN | lImbus: nah, everytime someone joins the channel and asks stupid questions, we assume he's french :-) |
| 02:16:08 | dstar5 | heh |
| 02:16:31 | lImbus | lol |
| 02:16:37 | lImbus | dstar5, french too ? |
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| 02:18:52 | lImbus | oops. is it so embarassing ? |
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| 03:02:01 | Danny_from_fr | Hi |
| 03:02:08 | Danny_from_fr | Can I do something after bad flashing? |
| 03:02:18 | Danny_from_fr | My JB freezed |
| 03:02:20 | Danny_from_fr | and now |
| 03:02:25 | Danny_from_fr | I can't start it |
| 03:06:35 | LinusN | ouch |
| 03:06:50 | LinusN | fm recorder? |
| 03:06:59 | Danny_from_fr | yes |
| 03:07:07 | LinusN | which rockbox version? |
| 03:07:17 | Danny_from_fr | I just wanted flash back to archos firmware |
| 03:07:20 | Danny_from_fr | with a .bin file |
| 03:07:33 | Danny_from_fr | and it freezed |
| 03:07:37 | LinusN | so it was flashed? |
| 03:07:48 | LinusN | and you wanted to revert it? |
| 03:07:52 | Danny_from_fr | yes |
| 03:08:00 | LinusN | when did it freeze? |
| 03:08:07 | Danny_from_fr | programming |
| 03:08:16 | LinusN | badness |
| 03:08:23 | Danny_from_fr | :( |
| 03:08:29 | LinusN | try to hold F1 when you turn on the device |
| 03:08:36 | Danny_from_fr | don't work |
| 03:08:54 | LinusN | not good |
| 03:09:02 | Danny_from_fr | :((( |
| 03:09:08 | LinusN | i think you're in trouble |
| 03:09:30 | Danny_from_fr | there no solutions? |
| 03:09:39 | | Quit lImbus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 03:09:47 | LinusN | was this the bin file from the backup you made when flashing the first time? |
| 03:09:51 | Danny_from_fr | yes |
| 03:10:28 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 2 hours and 28 minutes at the last flood |
| 03:10:28 | * | LinusN suspects that Jörg didn't try to flash the original file |
| 03:10:56 | LinusN | well, if it doesn't start, you have to open it up and perform some surgery on it |
| 03:11:09 | Danny_from_fr | what can i do? |
| 03:11:18 | LinusN | you need to be somewhat skilled in electronics |
| 03:11:27 | LinusN | at least handy with a soldering iron |
| 03:11:41 | Danny_from_fr | and u know what i have to do? |
| 03:11:46 | LinusN | you will have to do the "UART boot mod" |
| 03:11:56 | Danny_from_fr | what is it? |
| 03:12:15 | LinusN | it enables a special mode in the boot ROM, where you can program the flash via the serial port |
| 03:12:32 | Danny_from_fr | oh |
| 03:12:38 | Danny_from_fr | and how it works? |
| 03:12:46 | Danny_from_fr | It's an USB |
| 03:13:16 | LinusN | the CPU has a serial port (the same that is used for the remote control) |
| 03:13:19 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/UartBoot |
| 03:13:59 | LinusN | btw, why did you want to restore the flash? |
| 03:15:57 | Danny_from_fr | because of red led ded |
| 03:15:59 | Danny_from_fr | dead |
| 03:16:13 | Danny_from_fr | so i have to make a serial cable? |
| 03:16:26 | LinusN | which .bin file did you use when restoring? |
| 03:16:50 | LinusN | was it "internal_rom_2000000-203FFFF.bin"? |
| 03:16:56 | Danny_from_fr | firmware_fm.bin |
| 03:16:59 | Danny_from_fr | yes |
| 03:17:02 | Danny_from_fr | I renamed it |
| 03:17:13 | LinusN | should have worked... |
| 03:17:25 | Danny_from_fr | ... |
| 03:17:31 | Danny_from_fr | So as I undersatnd |
| 03:17:38 | Danny_from_fr | I need to make a serial data cable |
| 03:17:39 | Danny_from_fr | ? |
| 03:17:50 | LinusN | you have to make a serial cable, and perform the UART boot mod |
| 03:18:25 | Danny_from_fr | is it difficult? |
| 03:18:45 | LinusN | if you haven't done anything like it before, it may be difficult |
| 03:19:02 | Danny_from_fr | I did a lot of electronic before |
| 03:19:15 | LinusN | then it shouldn't be too hard |
| 03:19:24 | Danny_from_fr | I didn't find any schemas of the cable |
| 03:20:04 | LinusN | the instructions in the link i gave you should help you |
| 03:20:08 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/rs232.html |
| 03:21:42 | Danny_from_fr | did you do it? |
| 03:23:37 | LinusN | i designed the rs232 converter, yes |
| 03:24:51 | Danny_from_fr | ok |
| 03:25:35 | Danny_from_fr | well I'm gonna sleep right now |
| 03:25:41 | LinusN | sleep tight |
| 03:25:47 | Danny_from_fr | thank you much |
| 03:25:56 | LinusN | you're welcome |
| 03:26:09 | Danny_from_fr | good night |
| 03:28:42 | LinusN | nite |
| 03:35:56 | LinusN | time to sleep |
| 03:35:58 | LinusN | nite all |
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| 09:29:25 | adi|ems | damn.. was hoping to ask linus how he got on the open neo mailing list |
| 09:30:05 | midk | adi|home was in xchat screenshot. |
| 09:30:34 | midk | is* |
| 09:30:36 | midk | two, actually. |
| 09:31:02 | adi|ems | heheh |
| 09:31:06 | adi|ems | should i ask? |
| 09:31:19 | midk | ? |
| 09:31:21 | adi|ems | and where is this xchat screen shot? |
| 09:31:29 | adi|ems | like for the xchat website? |
| 09:31:30 | midk | http://xchat.org/files/screenshots/xchat_screen_1.png |
| 09:31:37 | midk | http://xchat.org/files/screenshots/xchat-winxp.png |
| 09:31:42 | midk | official screenshots |
| 09:31:54 | midk | adiamas and adi|home |
| 09:32:32 | adi|ems | hehe hehe funny you noticed :) |
| 09:33:04 | midk | yeh, someone mentioned a difference in 2.0.9 −− wanted to see if there were any visual differences and saw you at the top of the list |
| 09:33:13 | midk | *changes nick to "aaaaaa" and joins #xchat and #redhat |
| 09:33:44 | adi|ems | ahh.. |
| 09:33:52 | adi|ems | so i take if your developing for xchat? |
| 09:34:17 | midk | no.. |
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| 09:36:57 | adi|ems | k :) |
| 09:37:13 | midk | this is *the* adi, right? :) |
| 09:37:25 | midk | *hopes he hasn't got someone else confused with adi |
| 09:37:31 | adi|ems | as far as any adi can be the adi :) |
| 09:37:45 | adi|ems | adiamas adi|home adi|work (owner of the room) adi :) |
| 09:37:47 | adi|ems | thats me |
| 09:37:49 | midk | are you or are you not adi |
| 09:37:54 | midk | are you or are you notlol |
| 09:37:58 | midk | oops |
| 09:38:04 | adi|ems | used to be faq maintainer but got real lazy adi.. thats me.. |
| 09:38:20 | midk | OH YEAH |
| 09:38:31 | midk | the ollitrop guy |
| 09:38:40 | midk | adi was hassled by ollitrop hahah |
| 09:41:29 | midk | yeah here |
| 09:41:32 | midk | 08.54.46 # <adi|home> not trying to be a jerk.. but being the maintainer of the FAQ.. answering the same quesitons over and over gets tiresome |
| 09:41:32 | midk | 08.56.57 # <ollitrop> well thanks assfuck! i hope you feel better, Mr. I'm so smart and i talk down to people on a computer because in real life they could kick my ass. Go ahead hide behind your PC. If I missed that part then it was my bad but you dont have to talk to people that way you fucking pissant. And dont apoligize now, faqs are a bitch to maintain, dont tell people to come here if you arent willing to put up with stupid quest |
| 09:41:32 | midk | ions, ASSHOLE JERK FUCK! |
| 09:42:44 | adi|ems | lol |
| 09:42:48 | adi|ems | yup.. that was him... |
| 09:42:59 | adi|ems | and on that note.. i need to head home and get some sleep... |
| 09:43:03 | adi|ems | so long |
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| 09:44:43 | midk | hm wtf. |
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| 09:48:51 | midk | GAH |
| 09:59:11 | midk | nite |
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| 12:34:28 | zeekoe | hi |
| 12:34:48 | zeekoe | any opinions about the jukebox studio 20? |
| 12:35:07 | zeekoe | i may be able to buy one for ¤100 |
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| 12:40:35 | [IDC]Dragon | Hmm, I missed Danny_from_fr |
| 12:40:45 | [IDC]Dragon | (the mis-flasher) |
| 12:43:02 | zeekoe | danny_from_fr? |
| 12:43:15 | zeekoe | he mis-flashed his archos thing? |
| 12:43:24 | [IDC]Dragon | afaik, yes |
| 12:43:39 | [IDC]Dragon | (from reading the log) |
| 12:43:39 | LinusN | he tried to revert to the original |
| 12:43:50 | [IDC]Dragon | which is OK |
| 12:43:59 | LinusN | zeekoe: the studio is the oldest model |
| 12:44:45 | LinusN | the sound is inferior to the recorder, and the LCD is character-only, as opposed to the bitmap display of the recorder |
| 12:45:24 | LinusN | the studio has USB1.1, the recorder has USB2.0 (at least the modern models) |
| 12:45:42 | LinusN | i wouldn't buy a studio |
| 12:49:11 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: how do you like the patch for talk clips on any files? |
| 12:49:31 | LinusN | i think it's good |
| 12:49:37 | [IDC]Dragon | me too |
| 12:49:44 | LinusN | haven't looked at the code, but i like the idea |
| 12:49:48 | [IDC]Dragon | how many you do is up to the user |
| 12:49:58 | [IDC]Dragon | it's just an option |
| 12:50:04 | LinusN | and it can't hurt, since it works like before if there are no .talk clips |
| 12:50:28 | [IDC]Dragon | scripts for generation are a different issue |
| 12:50:52 | zeekoe | LinusN: the sound is inferior? |
| 12:50:57 | LinusN | one easy thing to add to the scripts is to generate clips for playlists |
| 12:50:59 | zeekoe | in what way? |
| 12:51:15 | [IDC]Dragon | if there are no clips, it needs a delay and a spinup, that's the drawback if enabled |
| 12:51:26 | LinusN | 1) the headphone amp is not very powerful |
| 12:51:55 | LinusN | 2) the MP3 chip is the older MAS3507, without Loudness and Dynamic Bass |
| 12:52:11 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: true |
| 12:52:48 | LinusN | zeekoe: 1) can be fixed with a hardware modification |
| 12:52:51 | zeekoe | LinusN: hmm... dynamic bass was just a weird trick to improve bass, wasn't it? |
| 12:53:02 | zeekoe | LinusN: that's kewl |
| 12:53:13 | LinusN | zeekoe: yes, a psycho acoustic trick, but it works very well |
| 12:53:19 | zeekoe | :P ok |
| 12:53:29 | zeekoe | is it really needed? |
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| 12:53:35 | LinusN | so if you can get hold of a recorder, it is a much better choice |
| 12:53:47 | zeekoe | yeah, but recorders are much more expensive... |
| 12:53:51 | amiconn | hi all |
| 12:53:54 | zeekoe | hi |
| 12:53:56 | LinusN | zeekoe: no, the dynamic bass isn't needed |
| 12:54:01 | LinusN | amiconn: yo yo yo |
| 12:54:38 | zeekoe | what about the durability (is this the correct word?) of the studio? |
| 12:54:43 | LinusN | zeekoe: i'm not trying to talk you out of the studio, i'm just answering your question |
| 12:54:54 | zeekoe | yeah, ok |
| 12:54:59 | zeekoe | i get it |
| 12:55:12 | LinusN | in general, the archos hardware quality has a lot to wish for |
| 12:55:19 | amiconn | LinusN: Could you please enlighten me why the Makefile in /apps set -DPLUGIN=1 ? If I take this out, a debug build completes without error. |
| 12:55:24 | zeekoe | are there special points to take notice _if_ ;) i want to buy the studio? |
| 12:55:34 | LinusN | amiconn: plain stupidity? |
| 12:55:48 | LinusN | i forgot to commit my fix for that yesyerday |
| 12:56:14 | LinusN | zeekoe: you mean what to watch out for when you inspect it? |
| 12:56:38 | amiconn | Ah ok. I wondered about that, because you committed other things, but no fix for that, so I assumed there must be a reason for it. |
| 12:56:41 | zeekoe | LinusN: yep, that's what i mean |
| 12:57:28 | LinusN | zeekoe: squeeze the bumpers in the direction of the batteries, if it reboots you will need to repair it (a simple procedure) |
| 12:57:51 | zeekoe | okay... |
| 12:58:06 | zeekoe | btw, the guy says it broke after a firmware upgrade |
| 12:58:12 | LinusN | "broke"? |
| 12:58:13 | zeekoe | it only boots when connected to pc |
| 12:58:42 | LinusN | hehe, that's another sign of the same hardware problem i described |
| 12:58:54 | LinusN | has nothing to do with the firmware |
| 12:59:00 | zeekoe | heh... okay |
| 12:59:07 | zeekoe | so it can be repaired? |
| 12:59:14 | LinusN | yes |
| 12:59:26 | LinusN | it can also be a bug in rockbox that we fixed a week ago |
| 12:59:30 | zeekoe | it's just that the battery doesn't make contact or so? |
| 12:59:53 | LinusN | zeekoe: yes, but you need to resolder the battery connectors |
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| 13:00:10 | zeekoe | that can't be a big problem |
| 13:00:13 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/repairbattery.html |
| 13:00:42 | LinusN | zeekoe: you don't have any friends with skills in electronic repairs? |
| 13:00:58 | zeekoe | i can do some |
| 13:01:12 | zeekoe | doesn't look hard |
| 13:01:17 | LinusN | not at all |
| 13:01:36 | zeekoe | i fix anything, whether or not it's broke |
| 13:01:41 | zeekoe | :) |
| 13:01:44 | LinusN | did he mention what the studio does when it isn't connected to a pc? |
| 13:01:57 | zeekoe | hmm... |
| 13:02:16 | zeekoe | he just says that it doesnt boot by itself |
| 13:02:21 | zeekoe | only when connected to usb |
| 13:02:40 | LinusN | sounds like a battery/connector problem |
| 13:02:48 | zeekoe | okay |
| 13:03:14 | LinusN | amiconn: want me to commit? |
| 13:04:08 | zeekoe | thanks a lot :) |
| 13:04:15 | zeekoe | i'll be reading the docs |
| 13:04:15 | LinusN | zeekoe: good luck |
| 13:04:18 | amiconn | LinusN: Either one of us should do so.. |
| 13:04:21 | zeekoe | from rockbox |
| 13:04:23 | LinusN | i just did :-) |
| 13:04:52 | zeekoe | hmm... food is ready :) |
| 13:04:58 | zeekoe | anyway, thanks! |
| 13:05:07 | * | LinusN can't find the screws to reassemble his Studio :-) |
| 13:05:24 | LinusN | zeekoe: you're welcome |
| 13:06:27 | amiconn | LinusN: Nice change for the status bar - saves a bit of code size |
| 13:07:07 | LinusN | thx |
| 13:07:31 | LinusN | and there were so many places where we forget to update it, so it's much better if it updates itself |
| 13:07:54 | amiconn | Together with Jörg's new settings code (and compiling with gcc 3.3.1) we do now have again some more room for improvement before hitting the 200 KB barrier :-) |
| 13:08:13 | LinusN | does it compile well with 3.3.1 now? |
| 13:08:32 | amiconn | Yes, it does, and it does run just fine. |
| 13:08:52 | amiconn | ajbrec.ajz (recorder v1) is now < 180 KB :-) |
| 13:09:13 | [IDC]Dragon | FM is the worst case |
| 13:09:24 | LinusN | naturally |
| 13:09:27 | * | amiconn is trying an fm build... |
| 13:09:53 | [IDC]Dragon | it doesn't have to, the charging code is not in |
| 13:10:13 | LinusN | btw, have you tried with 2.4.0? |
| 13:10:15 | [IDC]Dragon | but fact is that it's the largest |
| 13:10:16 | LinusN | 3.4.0 |
| 13:10:46 | amiconn | Sorry, no gcc 3.4.0 for cygwin (yet) |
| 13:10:53 | LinusN | ah |
| 13:11:06 | LinusN | i don't get it |
| 13:11:23 | [IDC]Dragon | 3.4.0 is the latest and greatest? |
| 13:11:29 | LinusN | cygwin doesn't deliver a cross compiler for sh1, do they? |
| 13:11:36 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: yes |
| 13:12:08 | LinusN | so you could easily build a 3.4.0 cross compiler anyway |
| 13:12:36 | amiconn | ajbrec.ajz compiled with 3.3.1 is just under 183 KB (with my short bitswap & optimized ata, that is) |
| 13:16:27 | amiconn | For unmodified rockbox it's a little more (60 bytes) than 183 KB |
| 13:17:40 | [IDC]Dragon | flashing and 8MB rulez (no limits!) |
| 13:17:42 | amiconn | LinusN: For the debug builds no .ajz/.mod is generated. How are these supposed to load? |
| 13:18:00 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: you need the .elf |
| 13:18:06 | LinusN | they are elf files, loaded via gdb |
| 13:18:52 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm off |
| 13:18:55 | LinusN | damn, i can't find a good source for 8M chips... :-( |
| 13:19:08 | amiconn | Ah. Am I right on this: For the debug builds, you need the serial mod - both for loading the fw and interfacing it with gdb? |
| 13:19:15 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll get you one, someday... |
| 13:19:16 | LinusN | amiconn: yes |
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| 13:20:06 | LinusN | i'll reboot now, back in a sec |
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| 13:22:27 | LinusN | back |
| 13:26:06 | amiconn | Interesting - I just did the cvs update, and it didn't complain about a clash, although we both changed the same line |
| 13:26:30 | amiconn | Obviously it detected that the change itself was identical... |
| 13:28:55 | LinusN | cool |
| 13:30:22 | amiconn | I would really try to get the ata issue sorted, and would build 3 test versions for that. However, I wonder if the compiler used ay also influence it... |
| 13:30:35 | amiconn | *may |
| 13:31:33 | LinusN | i don't think so |
| 13:34:00 | amiconn | So I'll do the following: |
| 13:34:46 | amiconn | (1) Build rockbox 4 times for each architecture (without ata optimiziation, read opt. only, write opt., both opt.s) |
| 13:35:20 | amiconn | (2) make zip packages from these, containing the non-opt. version as default |
| 13:35:37 | amiconn | (3) upload these to my webspace |
| 13:36:29 | amiconn | (4) announce them on the ml with the invitation to do the tests, accompaned by some warnings (backup data etc..) |
| 13:37:07 | amiconn | I wonder if I should do that for all 4 models (probably yes) |
| 13:38:27 | LinusN | which disk was the problem child again? |
| 13:39:09 | amiconn | Most problematic is Hitachi DK23CA series (data corruption). Hitachi DK23DA is our main RLD candidate |
| 13:41:57 | LinusN | i have a DA, but not a CA |
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| 13:51:58 | LinusN | hola BlueChip |
| 13:52:11 | BlueChip | Hola Captain Linus :) |
| 13:52:28 | LinusN | :-) |
| 13:52:36 | BlueChip | Have you been out on your own yet? |
| 13:52:59 | LinusN | several times before graduating :-) |
| 13:53:03 | BlueChip | I remember the first time I drove a car with nobody in it - such an amazing feeling of achievement :) |
| 13:53:06 | LinusN | but not after |
| 13:53:24 | LinusN | will go fishing in august |
| 13:53:31 | BlueChip | Sounds more akin to a PPL then a Driving License |
| 13:53:43 | LinusN | it's very basic |
| 13:54:00 | LinusN | and sometimes not even required |
| 13:54:22 | LinusN | it depends on the size of the ship and where you go |
| 13:54:39 | BlueChip | But you seem the kind of guy to do something properly or not at all |
| 13:54:58 | LinusN | hehe |
| 13:55:18 | LinusN | sometimes, yes |
| 13:55:55 | BlueChip | we all have our moments of weakness ...often when weighed against things like deadlines and wages |
| 13:56:34 | LinusN | amiconn: lots of asm constraint errors with 3.4.0 |
| 13:57:01 | amiconn | Hmm. In what modules? |
| 13:57:37 | LinusN | drivers/ata.c:864: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints |
| 13:57:45 | BlueChip | 3.4?? |
| 13:57:48 | LinusN | drivers/ata.c:864: error: impossible constraint in `asm' |
| 13:57:58 | LinusN | BlueChip: gcc 3.4.0 |
| 13:58:14 | BlueChip | ah - cheers |
| 13:59:52 | amiconn | LinusN: Line 864 is a simple and_b(~0x02, &PADRH); ?!? |
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| 14:01:22 | LinusN | so either the "I" or "z" contraint is deprecated |
| 14:01:53 | BlueChip | (whatever happened to backward-compatible) |
| 14:03:48 | LinusN | it's probably the z contraint |
| 14:06:13 | amiconn | Test builds prepared and packaged. Unfortunately I cannot upload them atm, this has to wait until the evening. |
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| 14:16:41 | amiconn | LinusN: According to the gcc cvs the z constraint should still be valid imho |
| 14:19:34 | LinusN | i'm silly |
| 14:20:02 | amiconn | ??? |
| 14:21:43 | LinusN | operand 0 uses the "I" constraint |
| 14:24:35 | amiconn | Would you mind doing a quick test: Write "i" instead of "I" (only in one place for now) and re-try? |
| 14:26:56 | LinusN | works |
| 14:27:10 | LinusN | gotta go now, cu around |
| 14:27:32 | BlueChip | l8rz LinusN |
| 14:28:51 | amiconn | cu LinusN |
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| 14:49:49 | amiconn | LinusN (if you read the logs): constraint "I" is now "I08" (both are signed 8-bit, so it is not correct to use them for 8 bit logical operations). For 8-bit logic operations, we should have used "L" in the first place (8 bit unsigned), which is now "K08" |
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| 14:52:13 | amiconn | bye |
| 14:52:19 | BlueChip | l8rz |
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| 22:45:03 | sddsds | hello there i got an serious problem with my archos jukebox studio 20 |
| 22:45:58 | sddsds | i thinkn it is something with the firmware but i've tried everything |
| 22:46:16 | sddsds | the player doesn't boot |
| 22:46:23 | sddsds | hello? |
| 22:46:26 | sddsds | hallo? |
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| 23:00:08 | sddsds | is there someone who can help me out ? |
| 23:00:30 | Bagder | with what? |
| 23:01:28 | sddsds | wel i have a problem eith my jukebox i think it was the wrong firmware |
| 23:01:39 | sddsds | i installed it and know it doesn't boot |
| 23:01:45 | Bagder | how did you install it? |
| 23:02:21 | sddsds | i installed the rockbox 2.2 recorder |
| 23:02:37 | sddsds | because i have an Jukebox Studio 20 |
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| 23:02:59 | Bagder | sddsds: the remove the files again, and it'll work as before |
| 23:03:18 | Bagder | connect the usb cable first, then power on |
| 23:03:28 | sddsds | so i renamed the file asrjev.azj to archos.mod |
| 23:04:08 | sddsds | no but i tried everything i formated it, checked the disk nothing works annymore |
| 23:04:18 | Bagder | then that's not the problem |
| 23:04:30 | Bagder | the archos boots on the internal firmware first |
| 23:04:42 | Bagder | and then checks the disk for an "upgrade" |
| 23:04:48 | Bagder | if there's no upgrade, it runs the internal |
| 23:04:49 | sddsds | yeah i can stil plug it in the pc and he recognises it as an Hard Drive and i can still put things on |
| 23:05:13 | sddsds | how do i do that ? |
| 23:05:18 | Bagder | do what? |
| 23:05:33 | sddsds | check the archos boots on the internal firmware first |
| 23:05:50 | Bagder | it does that |
| 23:05:51 | Bagder | always |
| 23:05:55 | Bagder | you can't change that |
| 23:06:08 | Bagder | so if it doesn't boot |
| 23:06:13 | sddsds | ooh jeay i did that but then i get an HD error |
| 23:06:14 | Bagder | it has nothing to do with rockbox |
| 23:07:04 | sddsds | i hold the on button for a couple of secconds and then i should the internal firmware from archos right? |
| 23:07:15 | sddsds | the=get |
| 23:07:21 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:08:00 | sddsds | yeah but it only says jukebox version 5.08 and then i get HD Error on the screen and then it turns off |
| 23:08:16 | Bagder | so, you have a hd error that the archos OS detects |
| 23:08:41 | sddsds | yes |
| 23:08:45 | Bagder | probably because you did make any partitions on the disk or something |
| 23:08:48 | Bagder | didn't |
| 23:09:14 | sddsds | no i didn't make any partition on it |
| 23:09:21 | Bagder | you should |
| 23:09:31 | sddsds | yeah ? |
| 23:09:40 | sddsds | i should split it ? |
| 23:09:54 | Bagder | make one partition that occupies the whole disk |
| 23:10:09 | sddsds | okay wait a minute |
| 23:10:15 | sddsds | and what should i do the ? |
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| 23:10:36 | LinusN | sddsds: does the drive spin up? |
| 23:10:50 | Bagder | since he can use it with usb, it better ;-) |
| 23:11:13 | LinusN | yes, but without |
| 23:11:18 | sddsds | Yeah because i can use it through usb |
| 23:11:30 | LinusN | does the drive spin up when you start it without usb? |
| 23:11:40 | sddsds | it works fine until i unplug it and want to listen to some music though:P |
| 23:11:50 | sddsds | let me check |
| 23:12:30 | Bagder | LinusN: Mike Deliman actually is the Mars guy! ;-) |
| 23:13:21 | sddsds | no it does not spin up |
| 23:13:37 | Bagder | oh |
| 23:13:48 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/repairbattery.html |
| 23:13:50 | sddsds | it only spins up when i plug it in the usb |
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| 23:14:58 | amiconn | hi all |
| 23:15:02 | LinusN | yo |
| 23:15:04 | Bagder | hi amiconn |
| 23:15:09 | sddsds | so it's the batteries ? |
| 23:15:42 | LinusN | or the battery connectors |
| 23:16:46 | amiconn | LinusN: Got my comment (from the log) on the asm constraints for recent gcc? |
| 23:17:37 | dstar5 | asm constraints: are those saying like something about 0? |
| 23:18:07 | amiconn | dstar5: ??? |
| 23:18:57 | LinusN | amiconn: K08 is a no-go |
| 23:19:20 | amiconn | What happens if you use it? |
| 23:19:33 | LinusN | same error |
| 23:19:40 | dstar5 | amiconn, i built binutils and gcc for sh-elf yesterday (gcc 3.4, binutils 1.15), and compiling gives me a weird error, i cant remember exactly what it was |
| 23:20:22 | LinusN | dstar5: perhaps this: |
| 23:20:30 | LinusN | drivers/ata.c:864: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints |
| 23:20:34 | dstar5 | thats it |
| 23:20:47 | LinusN | that's what we're discussing |
| 23:20:54 | dstar5 | good |
| 23:21:05 | amiconn | LinusN: Tried I08? |
| 23:22:30 | amiconn | (I still wonder why the gcc team changed the syntax in this not backwards compatible way) |
| 23:23:37 | LinusN | have to go, cu l8r |
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| 23:39:20 | amiconn | Any Linuxer here? |
| 23:39:26 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:39:55 | amiconn | What's the equivalent on Linux for Windows' Checkdisk/Scandisk, when checking FAT32? |
| 23:40:13 | Bagder | dosfsck |
| 23:40:18 | amiconn | (I'm just preparing my eMail for the next ATA test round) |
| 23:41:46 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:58:08 | sddsds | hey i put in some new batteries and know it will boot up when i use the rom from acros but the red light is blinking |
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