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| 00:49:20 | midk | hey amiconn, are you around? |
| 00:49:30 | amiconn | Yups |
| 00:49:45 | midk | you suggested the european date mode for the clock, correct? |
| 00:49:52 | midk | which was DD.MM.YYYY? |
| 00:50:15 | amiconn | yes, correct. |
| 00:50:35 | midk | is it still a "correct" european date if it's DD.MM.YY? |
| 00:50:59 | midk | or is DD.MM.YYYY more correct? |
| 00:51:16 | amiconn | Yes it is (short date), although I don't like it (personally) |
| 00:51:32 | midk | what about on two lines |
| 00:51:34 | midk | DD.MM |
| 00:51:35 | midk | YYYY |
| 00:51:52 | midk | that is the best way i can make it work in the clock |
| 00:51:53 | amiconn | Should be ok. |
| 00:51:58 | midk | excellent, thanks |
| 00:55:56 | midk | dammit. i hate these bugs. |
| 00:56:13 | midk | 24h time readout: 31:57:49 |
| 00:56:33 | amiconn | funny... |
| 00:57:00 | midk | and |
| 00:57:04 | amiconn | Btw: your old clock doesn't show the seconds correctly since I fixed snprintf() |
| 00:57:06 | midk | 12 is 19:57:xx |
| 00:57:18 | midk | yes, i am releasing the final update today.. |
| 00:57:27 | midk | if i can fix this bug |
| 00:57:53 | amiconn | Please define "today" ... damn time zones |
| 00:58:06 | midk | umm |
| 00:58:11 | midk | within the next 6 hours probably |
| 00:58:24 | midk | up to 8 hours.. that's when i start getting sloppy :) |
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| 01:05:40 | midk | FXIED |
| 01:05:42 | midk | fixed* |
| 01:05:45 | midk | AHAHAHAHa i am good. |
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| 02:55:47 | yeft | oh dear... |
| 02:55:52 | yeft | anyone here |
| 02:57:16 | midk | m |
| 02:57:17 | midk | e |
| 02:57:20 | midk | the GRAMMAR BOT |
| 02:57:32 | yeft | hahah i got a soldering iron |
| 02:57:34 | yeft | and i soldered |
| 02:57:41 | yeft | and i dont think it worked |
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| 03:05:27 | midk | don't* |
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| 03:21:55 | midk | any coders around? |
| 03:46:31 | hardeep | coding gives you cancer |
| 03:46:44 | midk | darn - i must be dead :) |
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| 06:16:06 | midk | wtf. |
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| 06:16:15 | midk | oh lol |
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| 06:54:40 | midk | heya linux |
| 06:54:42 | midk | GAH |
| 06:54:44 | midk | LinusN. |
| 06:55:25 | LinusN | yo |
| 06:56:15 | midk | working on a very intuitive help screen. |
| 06:56:24 | midk | then, *rubs hands together*, my CLOCK WILL BE COMPLETE |
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| 07:01:45 | LinusN | you've been saying that for the last 4 months :-) |
| 07:01:55 | midk | i said before july :D |
| 07:02:37 | midk | yay my help screen will rock. |
| 07:02:51 | midk | sure, they have to go through a few paragraphs on a small lcd.. but who cares |
| 07:02:53 | midk | it's just the USER. |
| 07:03:16 | midk | wow.. just text displaying is expanding my clock significantly |
| 07:04:09 | midk | tacking on 40 lines of text bumped it from 17.7kb to 18.5kb. |
| 07:04:13 | midk | D: |
| 07:04:20 | midk | sounds sort of weird.. |
| 07:06:44 | midk | *decides not to include a "how to read binary" tutorial |
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| 07:36:11 | yeft | ok |
| 07:36:19 | yeft | my fmr is in front of me |
| 07:36:22 | yeft | and in pieces |
| 07:36:25 | yeft | and im desparate |
| 07:36:29 | yeft | deperate |
| 07:36:41 | yeft | my first soldering attempt failed... |
| 07:37:30 | midk | desperate* |
| 07:37:40 | yeft | i fixed it |
| 07:37:44 | yeft | and not in the mood hahaha |
| 07:37:45 | midk | deperate? |
| 07:37:45 | midk | no. |
| 07:37:50 | yeft | oh |
| 07:37:53 | yeft | damnitttt |
| 07:37:58 | midk | damnit* |
| 07:38:05 | midk | sorry yeft, no more from grammarbot. |
| 07:38:37 | LinusN | yeft: what are you soldering? |
| 07:39:00 | yeft | the luggs |
| 07:39:06 | yeft | the tabs conencted to the pcb |
| 07:39:13 | LinusN | shouldn't be too hard |
| 07:39:36 | yeft | it isnt... |
| 07:39:38 | yeft | but it didnt work |
| 07:39:39 | yeft | hahha |
| 07:39:56 | LinusN | can you see if the battery connectors make good contact to the battery? |
| 07:40:44 | LinusN | if not, bend them slightly towards the battery |
| 07:41:01 | yeft | ok |
| 07:41:04 | LinusN | and clean them, and the battery |
| 07:41:27 | yeft | with... |
| 07:42:27 | LinusN | some alcohol, maybe |
| 07:42:47 | yeft | haha soap wont do? |
| 07:42:53 | LinusN | hehe, no |
| 07:44:11 | midk | *watches yeft use soap anyways |
| 07:44:11 | midk | LD |
| 07:44:14 | midk | ;D* |
| 07:45:11 | yeft | ahaha |
| 07:45:11 | midk | LinusN, clock.c has moved into its last 100 builds. |
| 07:45:12 | yeft | ok |
| 07:45:14 | midk | what a touching moment. |
| 07:45:32 | yeft | ok...cleaned |
| 07:46:45 | LinusN | make sure that both battery connectors make contact |
| 07:47:36 | LinusN | did you figure out how to put the battery lid back on? |
| 07:47:59 | yeft | battery lid? |
| 07:48:23 | yeft | oh yeah that bar... |
| 07:48:33 | LinusN | that "bar" is vital |
| 07:48:44 | yeft | yes i have it ,,, |
| 07:50:00 | yeft | both make contact |
| 07:50:08 | yeft | and i have the lid, and cna put it back on |
| 07:50:44 | LinusN | and it still doesn't work? |
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| 07:53:28 | yeft2 | grr? |
| 07:53:30 | yeft2 | ok |
| 07:53:32 | yeft2 | umm |
| 07:53:41 | yeft2 | do i have to resolder to see if it works? |
| 07:53:54 | LinusN | yes |
| 07:54:16 | yeft2 | : / |
| 07:55:39 | midk | boohoooooo |
| 07:55:41 | midk | i mean |
| 07:55:42 | midk | good luck |
| 07:55:52 | midk | i never really resoldered my points on my old fm |
| 07:57:36 | LinusN | old fm? you have a new one? |
| 07:57:50 | midk | no, i have no more fm |
| 07:57:56 | midk | on the fm i used to have. |
| 07:58:01 | yeft2 | what do you have now? |
| 07:58:05 | midk | rec15 |
| 07:58:20 | midk | woohoo i am like finished coding |
| 07:58:23 | midk | now for the boring part |
| 07:58:25 | midk | TESTING it. |
| 07:58:40 | yeft2 | ok |
| 07:58:47 | yeft2 | im assuming 15 watts |
| 07:59:04 | midk | ? |
| 07:59:08 | midk | was that directed at me? |
| 07:59:10 | yeft2 | soldering iron |
| 07:59:17 | midk | ohk |
| 07:59:19 | yeft2 | it was directed to the room |
| 07:59:25 | midk | ...why... |
| 07:59:33 | midk | well why would i know |
| 07:59:37 | midk | i'm just the GRAMMAR BOT |
| 07:59:38 | yeft2 | cause anyone can input |
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| 08:00:15 | midk | hm LinusN, will you pretend to be an end user and betatest my clock? |
| 08:00:19 | midk | :)) |
| 08:00:36 | LinusN | upload it to the patch tracker |
| 08:01:34 | midk | just a moment |
| 08:01:40 | midk | i think i will add in some default values |
| 08:01:55 | midk | if there is no settings file or there is an old settings file it just sort of picks random settings |
| 08:02:02 | midk | lol |
| 08:05:23 | yeft2 | heheh it loaded |
| 08:05:27 | yeft2 | but thats happened before |
| 08:05:28 | midk | works?? |
| 08:05:30 | midk | oh. |
| 08:05:39 | yeft2 | and then ive put it back together ..and pooooooo |
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| 08:10:37 | yeft2 | see now its all back together and i cant get past the first rockbox screen |
| 08:11:35 | yeft2 | remind me to start the archos hate club, once i stop buying their products |
| 08:11:46 | midk | hahahahahahahahaha. ha. |
| 08:12:34 | LinusN | yeft2: are you sure you don't have a short to ground somewhere? |
| 08:13:14 | yeft2 | ahhahah...and in yeft terms |
| 08:13:15 | LinusN | for example, does it work without the cover? |
| 08:13:20 | yeft2 | yes |
| 08:13:26 | yeft2 | well it did |
| 08:14:13 | midk | YES |
| 08:14:17 | midk | my reset_settings function WORKS |
| 08:14:18 | midk | HA. |
| 08:14:23 | midk | that will teach you. |
| 08:14:24 | yeft2 | haha it works better without the cover, i get the back light |
| 08:16:21 | LinusN | interesting, the fm recorder has a much lower headphone amplification, haven't noticed that until now... |
| 08:16:43 | yeft2 | IO4:illinstr |
| 08:16:48 | yeft2 | at 5400000000000000000 |
| 08:17:14 | yeft2 | hahah im typn with my left hand holding the cover on the battery |
| 08:17:28 | midk | tape it. |
| 08:18:00 | yeft2 | your assuming i have tap |
| 08:18:02 | yeft2 | tape |
| 08:18:05 | midk | you don't? |
| 08:18:08 | midk | *stares |
| 08:18:09 | yeft2 | haha i do |
| 08:18:13 | midk | oh lol |
| 08:18:52 | LinusN | yeft2: the chassis should not make contact with the edges of the pcb |
| 08:19:14 | yeft2 | ... |
| 08:19:16 | yeft2 | ohh |
| 08:19:32 | LinusN | only the tabs should make contact to their respective pad |
| 08:19:35 | yeft2 | ohh got lots of pretty error messages |
| 08:19:50 | yeft2 | thats a lot better... |
| 08:20:08 | yeft2 | hey what if i use tape...to border the chasis and the pcb |
| 08:20:31 | LinusN | sure |
| 08:23:23 | yeft2 | oh my word |
| 08:23:28 | yeft2 | its alive!!! |
| 08:23:59 | yeft2 | and its dead |
| 08:24:21 | LinusN | praise the lord! :-) |
| 08:25:15 | dwihno | Praise pepsi! |
| 08:25:23 | LinusN | you should be able to find a pressure sensitive spot on the pcb |
| 08:26:18 | yeft2 | ? |
| 08:26:27 | midk | PRESS THINGS |
| 08:26:28 | midk | UNTIL IT WORKS |
| 08:26:56 | yeft2 | hehehe were back to the original error message! |
| 08:27:11 | midk | YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA |
| 08:27:23 | LinusN | btw, look closely at the solder pads to see if any of them are loose |
| 08:28:11 | LinusN | my fm had a solder pad that was broken off the PCB |
| 08:28:22 | yeft2 | ...oh... |
| 08:28:25 | LinusN | (after my not-so-mild treatment) |
| 08:28:33 | midk | LOL |
| 08:28:43 | midk | did you fix it LinusN? |
| 08:28:50 | LinusN | disassembled it quite a lot back then |
| 08:28:53 | LinusN | yes i fixed it |
| 08:29:04 | midk | yay. |
| 08:29:21 | LinusN | had to replace all the radio wires as well :-) |
| 08:29:26 | midk | really? |
| 08:29:48 | midk | i'd have to consider your actions 'molestation' in that case :) |
| 08:29:48 | LinusN | the insulation melted when i unsoldered the top cover of the radio |
| 08:30:07 | LinusN | that cover was a bitch to remove |
| 08:30:11 | yeft2 | where is the radio |
| 08:30:19 | midk | oh, the golden cover? |
| 08:30:25 | LinusN | it's inside, below the lcd |
| 08:30:28 | LinusN | yes |
| 08:30:29 | midk | i recall it gold. |
| 08:30:47 | midk | linusn is an FMR molester! |
| 08:30:49 | midk | *posts to the list |
| 08:30:50 | LinusN | indeed |
| 08:31:04 | midk | yeft2, your fm is not safe. |
| 08:31:28 | LinusN | well, my fm still works :-) |
| 08:31:30 | yeft2 | my fm is about alive as the pope |
| 08:31:43 | LinusN | oh, that dead, eh? |
| 08:31:51 | midk | LinusN, who's to say you won't take your escapades further on unknowing yeft2's poor fm? |
| 08:32:28 | yeft2 | and then it becomes necrofelia |
| 08:32:29 | midk | AHA!! I HAVE SPOTTED ONE MINOR COSMETIC ERROR!! |
| 08:32:48 | LinusN | midk: face it, you will never finish the clock plugin |
| 08:32:56 | midk | *jumps on the code |
| 08:32:59 | midk | AHAHA!!! I HAVE FIXED IT!!! |
| 08:33:02 | midk | linusn... |
| 08:33:14 | midk | hmm |
| 08:33:19 | midk | i think my checkboxes are a bit too wide? |
| 08:33:25 | midk | *taps fingers momentarily |
| 08:33:38 | midk | or maybe i should do away with the mode selector.. :D |
| 08:33:42 | yeft2 | i shoulda taken newmp3technology up on their offer when they offered like 50 bucks for the thing |
| 08:33:51 | midk | OMG |
| 08:34:00 | midk | COSMETIC ERROR!!!! |
| 08:34:04 | midk | *jumps on the code |
| 08:34:27 | yeft2 | so how much is my harddrive worth any of you |
| 08:34:45 | midk | *offers $10 |
| 08:34:50 | midk | yeft2> sold!! |
| 08:34:59 | midk | excellent, i will email you details on address |
| 08:35:19 | midk | you pay shipping. |
| 08:35:41 | yeft2 | oh jeez |
| 08:36:08 | yeft2 | ill package you...a 20 and a 6 |
| 08:36:13 | yeft2 | howse that sound |
| 08:36:19 | midk | ooooh |
| 08:36:27 | midk | $5 |
| 08:36:30 | midk | yeft2> sold! |
| 08:36:36 | midk | yay... |
| 08:36:38 | yeft2 | who can guess what genius manufacturing company landed me witha 20gb and a 6gb harddrive??? |
| 08:36:40 | LinusN | yeft2: quitter! |
| 08:36:49 | yeft2 | i am! |
| 08:36:50 | midk | HA LINUSN CALLED YOU A QUITTER |
| 08:36:53 | midk | yeft |
| 08:36:59 | midk | ship it to me i'll fix it for ya. |
| 08:37:07 | yeft2 | hahah ... will ya now? |
| 08:37:14 | yeft2 | youll make fun of what it looks like...haha |
| 08:37:15 | midk | we haven't yet defined 'fix' |
| 08:37:16 | yeft2 | its a mess |
| 08:37:17 | midk | but yes, |
| 08:37:32 | midk | let's see a photo,. |
| 08:37:37 | yeft2 | hahah ok 1 sec |
| 08:37:40 | midk | yayyy |
| 08:37:54 | midk | you know what .. |
| 08:37:59 | midk | i am going to create a bullet time archos,. |
| 08:38:09 | midk | with an ipod shooting at it |
| 08:38:12 | midk | AHAHHAHAHa. ha. |
| 08:39:27 | yeft2 | it looks normal in the pic |
| 08:39:27 | midk | ok LinusN, if i haven't mentioned that i have uploaded my clock within about 20 minutes, let me know. |
| 08:39:30 | midk | Hadaka, sure. |
| 08:39:38 | midk | oops. |
| 08:39:41 | midk | ha , sure. |
| 08:41:40 | LinusN | yeft2: given up on repairing it? |
| 08:41:51 | yeft2 | basically yes |
| 08:41:58 | LinusN | come on... |
| 08:42:12 | midk | he's a quitter. |
| 08:42:35 | yeft2 | bahaha |
| 08:42:41 | midk | dern. my counter is a bit slow... |
| 08:42:48 | yeft2 | ok |
| 08:42:50 | midk | i wonder if anyone notices |
| 08:42:52 | yeft2 | i wont quit |
| 08:43:04 | yeft2 | if you can tell me what s goin on with this screen |
| 08:43:11 | yeft2 | it says PADR:8A7F |
| 08:43:21 | yeft2 | PBDR:B8BF |
| 08:43:24 | midk | it loses about 2 seconds a minute |
| 08:43:30 | yeft2 | AN0:3FF |
| 08:43:34 | LinusN | try to push the solder pads, one at a time, to see if anything happens |
| 08:43:35 | yeft2 | AN1:3FF |
| 08:43:49 | midk | LinusN, is it ok if i include an inaccurate timer in my clock? |
| 08:43:55 | LinusN | yeft2: those figures aren't interesting at this point |
| 08:44:05 | LinusN | midk: inaccurate timer? |
| 08:44:17 | midk | a counter.. press f2 to start/stop, hold to reset |
| 08:44:25 | LinusN | a stopwatch? |
| 08:44:28 | midk | it loses 5 seconds per 2 minutes |
| 08:44:29 | midk | sort of |
| 08:44:36 | midk | just a small counter if needed |
| 08:44:39 | midk | to time i guess... |
| 08:44:41 | yeft2 | any idea what those numbers are |
| 08:44:46 | LinusN | yeft2: yes i have |
| 08:44:48 | midk | i want to implement maybe a countdown feature for it. |
| 08:45:01 | yeft2 | may i be enlightened please :) |
| 08:45:06 | LinusN | midk: an alarm clock feature maybe? |
| 08:45:11 | yeft2 | holy god |
| 08:45:14 | yeft2 | it loaded again |
| 08:45:28 | LinusN | yeft2: those are values from the digital and analog ports of the cpu |
| 08:45:30 | midk | LinusN: like? |
| 08:45:44 | LinusN | like "wake me up at 08:00" |
| 08:45:50 | midk | yes but.. how to wake up? |
| 08:45:52 | midk | with a sound? |
| 08:45:59 | LinusN | a sound, or some music |
| 08:46:34 | yeft2 | linus, im listening to my music... |
| 08:46:36 | yeft2 | this is good |
| 08:46:39 | midk | was the alarm plugin ever merged? |
| 08:46:56 | LinusN | alarm plugin? |
| 08:47:00 | midk | it could be cool to combine them |
| 08:47:01 | midk | yes... |
| 08:47:08 | yeft2 | but im afraid this probablly wont last |
| 08:47:25 | midk | LinusN, http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=901816 |
| 08:47:36 | LinusN | yeft2: squeeze the device on various places |
| 08:47:53 | yeft2 | to see what happen |
| 08:48:19 | LinusN | yes |
| 08:48:29 | yeft2 | heh i squeezed |
| 08:48:31 | yeft2 | and it died |
| 08:48:42 | LinusN | so find out where the "sweet spot" is |
| 08:49:03 | yeft2 | my archos just loaded twice in a row |
| 08:49:07 | yeft2 | a miracle has happened here |
| 08:49:17 | midk | no, LinusN has happened here. |
| 08:49:31 | yeft2 | that too |
| 08:50:09 | yeft2 | ok i got my sweet spot |
| 08:51:57 | midk | fix it. |
| 08:52:23 | yeft2 | do i get time mk?? |
| 08:52:30 | midk | no. |
| 08:55:53 | midk | gee, thanks, LinusN - now i feel like i can't release the clock without an alarm feature :) |
| 08:56:36 | LinusN | midk: i can't see why you are so fixated with this "release" |
| 08:56:50 | LinusN | we have daily builds and CVS for a reason |
| 08:57:05 | LinusN | we develop things incrementally |
| 08:57:09 | yeft2 | oh yeah |
| 08:57:11 | yeft2 | mk |
| 08:57:47 | yeft2 | yeft.iconrate.net/106_1102.JPG">http://yeft.iconrate.net/106_1102.JPG |
| 08:58:13 | midk | i do it all at once. |
| 08:58:35 | midk | yeft2, i like the way you focused the camera on the box in the bg |
| 08:58:38 | LinusN | yeft2: that's a helluva blurry picture |
| 08:58:42 | midk | HA ITS UGLY |
| 08:59:18 | midk | LinusN.. i may have a solution. |
| 08:59:37 | midk | instead of an alarm, a countdown function implemented into the counter would do it |
| 08:59:52 | LinusN | midk: leave that for the next version |
| 08:59:55 | midk | ie.. oh its 12:30, need to be up at 7... *does math... *sets timer for 6:30:00 |
| 09:00 |
| 09:00:11 | yeft2 | ... |
| 09:00:12 | LinusN | yeft2: i hope you don't run it without the bumpers |
| 09:00:21 | midk | no, i already have the counter engine.. even though it would probably wake you up at like 6:45 |
| 09:00:26 | yeft2 | oh jessus why |
| 09:00:37 | LinusN | because they also work as insulators |
| 09:00:46 | yeft2 | oh my word |
| 09:01:10 | yeft2 | ok |
| 09:01:17 | yeft2 | i just got an error that said DEADBEEF |
| 09:01:21 | yeft2 | this thing is making fun of me |
| 09:01:26 | midk | yreally? |
| 09:01:27 | LinusN | midk: this counter, how come you don't base it on the clock? |
| 09:01:39 | midk | LMAO did it say DEADBEEF? |
| 09:01:45 | midk | LinusN, but *how*? |
| 09:01:46 | yeft2 | yes |
| 09:01:50 | yeft2 | it said deadbeef |
| 09:01:50 | midk | LMFAO |
| 09:01:55 | midk | TAKE PICTYURE |
| 09:01:57 | midk | too late? |
| 09:02:00 | yeft2 | maybe if i get it again |
| 09:02:02 | LinusN | DEADBEEF is the hex value I fill the stack with to detect stack overflow |
| 09:02:03 | midk | damn you. |
| 09:03:14 | LinusN | damn me? |
| 09:03:27 | midk | yeft* |
| 09:03:40 | midk | LinusN, may you elaborate on your clock-based counter? |
| 09:03:48 | midk | fairly interested in a counter that doesn't lose 2 seconds a minute |
| 09:04:06 | midk | that's 2 minutes an hour |
| 09:04:22 | midk | 12 minutes for 6 hours |
| 09:04:33 | midk | i was right.. it would lose about 15 minutes for 6 1/2 hours. |
| 09:04:37 | LinusN | midk: how is the resolution of you counter? |
| 09:04:45 | LinusN | seconds? |
| 09:04:49 | midk | yes |
| 09:04:55 | midk | button scans at HZ/8 |
| 09:05:04 | midk | so i just do ++ and then divide that number by 8 |
| 09:05:10 | midk | which ends up with about a second per second |
| 09:05:19 | midk | yet.. it's nowhere near perfect or accurrate |
| 09:05:23 | midk | accurate. |
| 09:05:23 | LinusN | but you update the clock every second, right? |
| 09:05:28 | midk | yes |
| 09:06:31 | yeft2 | ok now |
| 09:06:37 | yeft2 | reasons to give up... |
| 09:06:44 | midk | 1) NONE |
| 09:06:46 | yeft2 | 1) its three in the morning |
| 09:06:56 | yeft2 | 2) it barely works SOMETIMES out of the case |
| 09:06:56 | | Quit midk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 09:07:11 | yeft2 | 3) i need it to be usable on an airplane |
| 09:07:13 | | Join midk [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 09:07:47 | yeft2 | (for 8 hours nonetheless( |
| 09:07:49 | midk | wtf. |
| 09:07:51 | midk | anyways did i miss anything? |
| 09:08:06 | yeft2 | 4) ive been looking for an excuse for a PVP anyway |
| 09:08:20 | yeft2 | 5) ive solder these tabs into retardation |
| 09:09:03 | yeft2 | reasons to not quit... |
| 09:09:21 | midk | actually |
| 09:09:22 | midk | QUIT |
| 09:09:24 | midk | so you send it ot me |
| 09:10:01 | yeft2 | hahah i may never come back to this IRC if i send it to you |
| 09:10:13 | midk | who cares, you never come around anyways, :( |
| 09:11:17 | yeft2 | nnot till i had a serious problem :) |
| 09:11:33 | midk | right |
| 09:11:36 | midk | you just USE us |
| 09:11:53 | yeft2 | heheh |
| 09:12:01 | yeft2 | midk |
| 09:12:14 | yeft2 | you would make so much fun of me for the way these tabs look |
| 09:12:23 | midk | i dont care i want it bad. |
| 09:12:24 | midk | fine |
| 09:12:25 | midk | $2 |
| 09:13:41 | yeft2 | ... |
| 09:13:48 | midk | $5 then |
| 09:14:34 | yeft2 | ............. |
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| 09:14:47 | yeft2 | woah |
| 09:14:52 | yeft2 | just found out something really coo |
| 09:14:54 | yeft2 | cool |
| 09:15:39 | midk | UM |
| 09:15:40 | midk | $10 |
| 09:15:54 | midk | LinusN are you around? |
| 09:16:16 | LinusN | i am |
| 09:16:25 | midk | i demand help |
| 09:16:31 | LinusN | yeft2: you could donate it to the rockbox project :-) |
| 09:16:36 | midk | NO DONATE IT TO ME |
| 09:16:43 | midk | i am fmrless |
| 09:17:00 | yeft2 | hahaha |
| 09:17:09 | yeft2 | then linus will make fun of me! |
| 09:17:23 | midk | he already did with his DEADBEEF code D: |
| 09:17:23 | LinusN | midk: there is some code that checks if the clock has changed, right? |
| 09:17:26 | yeft2 | ill buy my taz and never come around these parts again' |
| 09:17:38 | midk | LinusN, no... i just display current_time->tmsec |
| 09:17:50 | midk | er |
| 09:17:50 | LinusN | ah, ok |
| 09:17:50 | midk | second = current_time->tm_sec; |
| 09:18:10 | LinusN | so you update the entire screen every 1/8 sec |
| 09:18:27 | midk | yes |
| 09:25:50 | yeft2 | you know what helps me when im stuck on something |
| 09:26:39 | midk | yes? |
| 09:32:07 | yeft2 | going to the bathroom |
| 09:32:21 | midk | i have no use for the bathroom right now |
| 09:32:38 | midk | LinusN were you coming up with some idea or should I just try and finish it up? |
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| 09:39:04 | LinusN | midk: you should base the counter either on the tick counter or the clock itself |
| 09:39:17 | midk | i have no preference |
| 09:39:21 | midk | how would i base it on the tick counter? |
| 09:48:49 | midk | *clicks teeth |
| 09:48:53 | midk | may be on clock 2.3 then |
| 09:52:13 | * | LinusN is in a meeting |
| 09:52:26 | midk | ok.. sry.. |
| 09:52:44 | LinusN | midk: when you start the counter, save the current tick value |
| 09:53:08 | midk | yah.... |
| 09:53:18 | LinusN | the counter is then (current_tick - saved_tick) / HZ |
| 09:53:30 | midk | YAY TYTY |
| 10:00 |
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| 10:01:03 | midk | hey Bagder |
| 10:01:13 | midk | LinusN, if you come around: there is probably no way to pause it, mm? |
| 10:01:15 | Bagder | hi |
| 10:03:06 | Zagor | midk: pause time? hmm, not easily no :) |
| 10:03:22 | midk | hey Zagor |
| 10:03:30 | midk | :) ... hmm.. i need some way to pause it. |
| 10:04:49 | LinusN | midk: when you pause, save the current tick again |
| 10:05:02 | midk | ok |
| 10:05:35 | LinusN | when you resume, recalculate the saved_tick again, compensating for the paused time |
| 10:05:56 | LinusN | essentially: saved_tick = saved_tick + paused_time |
| 10:06:32 | midk | so.. save the current tick to "saved_tick" for example when paused, then resave it again when unpaused? |
| 10:08:36 | midk | well i figured out how to reset it... :) |
| 10:09:32 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 10:12:32 | midk | ok resetting is now out of the way.. still not sure how to pause |
| 10:12:51 | midk | you want to say like |
| 10:13:01 | midk | save current tick to saved_tick when paused |
| 10:13:10 | midk | save current tick to saved_tick_2 when resumed |
| 10:13:18 | midk | calculate the difference; store in paused_time |
| 10:13:28 | midk | then continue with the counter, just -= paused_time? |
| 10:20:26 | LinusN | have a start_tick and a pause_tick |
| 10:20:44 | LinusN | start_tick is set when you start the counter |
| 10:20:52 | LinusN | pause_tick is set when you pause |
| 10:21:06 | LinusN | when you resume: |
| 10:21:31 | LinusN | start_tick = start_tick + (current_tick - pause_tick) |
| 10:24:07 | LinusN | you then only update the displayed counter if pause == false |
| 10:25:59 | LinusN | yeft2: any progress? |
| 10:26:09 | midk | ok linus, i think i've got it |
| 10:27:44 | yeft2 | ... |
| 10:27:45 | yeft2 | no |
| 10:27:49 | midk | DAH |
| 10:27:52 | midk | *head is mixing up. |
| 10:28:21 | yeft2 | did find a nice panasonic mp3 cd player |
| 10:28:24 | yeft2 | for the temporary |
| 10:28:29 | midk | lol |
| 10:28:55 | yeft2 | well im gonna clearn up and go to sleep |
| 10:29:06 | yeft2 | night all...and RIP my AJB6000 and FMR |
| 10:29:50 | | Quit yeft2 ("Leaving") |
| 10:31:11 | midk | hmm, not working |
| 10:31:24 | midk | oh |
| 10:31:28 | midk | well actually. |
| 10:31:33 | midk | sort of |
| 10:32:20 | midk | it starts up sort of weird |
| 10:32:27 | midk | it shows 0:00:-2 |
| 10:32:32 | midk | resetting it to 0 works... |
| 10:32:48 | midk | then from there counting, pausing and unpausing works flawlessly |
| 10:33:19 | midk | oh there. |
| 10:33:28 | midk | oh there again! |
| 10:33:31 | midk | see look |
| 10:33:41 | midk | i start the clock - counting is false |
| 10:33:47 | midk | shows up as 0:00:00 just fine |
| 10:33:56 | midk | starting the counter then shows 0:00:-2 |
| 10:34:06 | midk | resetting it shows 0:00:00 again |
| 10:34:17 | midk | but starting the counter once more has it count correctly, etc |
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| 10:36:18 | midk | hi amiconn |
| 10:36:35 | amiconn | hi all |
| 10:37:57 | midk | hey LinusN... |
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| 10:38:43 | midk | hey oxy :) |
| 10:38:50 | oxygen77 | hey midk |
| 10:38:55 | oxygen77 | :) |
| 10:39:05 | oxygen77 | what are you doing here ;) |
| 10:39:13 | midk | lol - rockboxing :D |
| 10:39:22 | oxygen77 | :)) |
| 10:39:48 | LinusN | midk: you'll have to think for yourself a little |
| 10:39:59 | midk | i am.. it's not coming to me. |
| 10:40:02 | LinusN | current_tick is updated 100 times a second |
| 10:40:15 | midk | what is the value of HZ? |
| 10:40:15 | LinusN | think about how you can use it |
| 10:40:16 | midk | 100? |
| 10:40:19 | LinusN | HZ is 100 |
| 10:41:34 | midk | hmm |
| 10:41:42 | midk | oh.. well... |
| 10:41:42 | midk | just a sec |
| 10:42:02 | midk | possibly need to calculate pause tick at startup because it it paused right away? |
| 10:42:18 | LinusN | stopped and paused is not the same thing |
| 10:42:36 | midk | oh, that must be where we are mixed up then |
| 10:42:39 | LinusN | it could be, of course |
| 10:42:42 | midk | what do you define, stopped? |
| 10:42:45 | LinusN | it depends on your code |
| 10:42:53 | LinusN | stopped is "not running" |
| 10:42:57 | midk | i have either counting or not counting. |
| 10:43:02 | LinusN | paused is "running, but paused" |
| 10:43:11 | midk | you could say not counting is paused or you could say it is stipped |
| 10:43:25 | LinusN | still, you can recalculate pause_tick |
| 10:43:30 | midk | pause isn't a good definition |
| 10:44:09 | midk | you can't define "paused" as "running but paused" |
| 10:44:11 | midk | anyhow... |
| 10:44:11 | LinusN | if you treat paused and stopped the same, you will not know when and how to recalculate pause_tick |
| 10:44:30 | midk | i have bool counting! that is all i know! |
| 10:44:47 | LinusN | then deal with it |
| 10:45:01 | midk | ok |
| 10:45:09 | midk | would you say that not counting is paused or it is stopped? |
| 10:45:28 | LinusN | not counting is "not counting" in your choice of implementation |
| 10:45:38 | midk | you've not yet defined 'paused'. |
| 10:46:28 | LinusN | first of all, if you want it to be accurate, you can't treat it as a "counter" |
| 10:46:52 | midk | what would you suggest then? |
| 10:47:00 | LinusN | it it supposed to act as a stopwatch? |
| 10:47:07 | midk | i suppose so. |
| 10:47:12 | midk | yes. |
| 10:48:33 | LinusN | think of it as an accumulator, to where you add the passed time between "start" and "stop" |
| 10:49:14 | midk | add the passed time? |
| 10:49:18 | midk | do you mean subtract? |
| 10:49:28 | LinusN | no, the acc starts at 0 |
| 10:49:42 | midk | right |
| 10:50:08 | LinusN | when you start it, you display the acc + the current passed time since the start |
| 10:50:32 | midk | ok... |
| 10:52:28 | LinusN | when you stop, you update the acc |
| 10:53:01 | midk | ok.... |
| 10:55:44 | midk | well i'm really tired. maybe we should take out the counter for this release.. i've got no idea how to do what needs to be done |
| 10:56:36 | LinusN | midk: repeat after me: "incremental development...incremental development" |
| 10:56:50 | | Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~c2af7555@reladm.kharkov.net) |
| 10:56:55 | midk | if you've got a solution i hope you can let me know, taking out the counter involves changing all sorts of help texts |
| 10:56:58 | * | Bagder joins in the chant |
| 10:57:14 | Bagder | now, isn't that a song? ;-P |
| 10:57:18 | LinusN | midk: the acc approach is really simple |
| 10:57:19 | [IDC]Dragon | hey, full house again! |
| 10:57:36 | midk | LinusN, i think i get what you were saying, but i don't see how ti applies to a stopwatch or timer |
| 10:57:57 | LinusN | the acc starts at 0 |
| 10:58:06 | midk | like a stopwatch. |
| 10:58:14 | LinusN | when you start, you set start_tick = current_tick |
| 10:58:34 | LinusN | now, the passed time since start is (current_tick - start_tick) |
| 10:59:02 | midk | i think the reason it's confusing is because i have differently named variables. |
| 10:59:08 | LinusN | on the screen, you display (acc + passed_time) |
| 10:59:27 | LinusN | when you stop, acc += passed_time |
| 10:59:51 | LinusN | when you reset, acc = 0 |
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| 11:00:21 | LinusN | you only add passed_time to the displayed value if running==true |
| 11:00:59 | LinusN | if(running) |
| 11:01:14 | LinusN | displayed_value=acc+passed_time |
| 11:01:15 | LinusN | else |
| 11:01:19 | LinusN | displayed_value = acc |
| 11:01:51 | LinusN | or: |
| 11:01:54 | LinusN | if(running) |
| 11:02:04 | LinusN | passed_time = current_tick - start_tick |
| 11:02:05 | LinusN | else |
| 11:02:10 | LinusN | passed_time = 0 |
| 11:02:16 | LinusN | your choice |
| 11:02:23 | midk | ok so just a moment here |
| 11:03:02 | midk | i have the ints... start_tick, passed_time, acc, and displayed_value? |
| 11:03:36 | LinusN | sounds like a way to go |
| 11:03:57 | LinusN | "acc" could very well be "counter" |
| 11:04:24 | midk | ok then |
| 11:04:25 | midk | counter it is |
| 11:04:34 | midk | i have bool counting as well |
| 11:04:39 | LinusN | good |
| 11:04:39 | midk | should that become bool running? |
| 11:04:55 | LinusN | running or counting, whatever |
| 11:05:06 | midk | ok, i'll keep it at counting. |
| 11:05:32 | LinusN | so, "reset" will be: counter = 0; |
| 11:05:50 | LinusN | same as you have it now, i guess |
| 11:05:55 | midk | case BUTTON_F2 | BUTTON_REPEAT: /* reset counter */ |
| 11:05:55 | midk | counter = 0; |
| 11:05:57 | midk | ? |
| 11:06:15 | LinusN | yes |
| 11:06:23 | midk | ok |
| 11:06:36 | * | Bagder asks no questions |
| 11:06:43 | LinusN | start counter: |
| 11:06:47 | midk | you better stay silent. |
| 11:06:49 | midk | :) |
| 11:06:50 | LinusN | counting = true; |
| 11:07:00 | LinusN | start_tick = current_tick; |
| 11:07:07 | * | [IDC]Dragon wonders which lesson this is |
| 11:07:10 | midk | haha that's exactly what i've got |
| 11:07:25 | midk | now just for displaying it right? |
| 11:07:33 | LinusN | stop counter: |
| 11:07:34 | midk | wait, what happens when we stop it? |
| 11:07:37 | midk | yeah |
| 11:07:49 | LinusN | counter += passed_time; |
| 11:07:55 | LinusN | counting= false; |
| 11:08:15 | midk | we haven't calculated passed_time yet though |
| 11:08:19 | midk | or i haven't. |
| 11:08:32 | LinusN | we do that all the time |
| 11:08:44 | midk | not in my code.. i must've neglected something |
| 11:09:43 | LinusN | as often as you can, do: |
| 11:09:50 | LinusN | if(counting) |
| 11:10:08 | LinusN | passed_time = current_tick - start_tick; |
| 11:10:09 | LinusN | else |
| 11:10:14 | LinusN | passed_time = 0; |
| 11:10:22 | LinusN | and: |
| 11:10:36 | LinusN | displayed_value = counter + passed_time; |
| 11:12:13 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: i'm implementing the MDB finetuning |
| 11:12:52 | LinusN | two parameters are a frequency, 30-300Hz and 50-300Hz respectively |
| 11:13:05 | LinusN | in 10Hz steps |
| 11:13:48 | LinusN | the current settings code does not permit scaling, so we waste some bits in the rtc |
| 11:14:16 | | Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") |
| 11:15:11 | midk | LinusN, just one last thing, looks like somewhere we forgot to divide the result or somesuch... looks like it needs to be divided by ten |
| 11:16:23 | midk | or |
| 11:16:28 | midk | / 100. |
| 11:17:19 | LinusN | midk: of course, the counter is counting 1/HZ seconds |
| 11:17:53 | LinusN | so seconds = displayed_value / HZ; |
| 11:18:16 | midk | void show_counter(void) |
| 11:18:16 | midk | { |
| 11:18:16 | midk | if(counting) |
| 11:18:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midk |
| 11:18:16 | midk | { |
| 11:18:16 | midk | passed_time = *rb->current_tick - start_tick; |
| 11:18:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 11:18:17 | midk | } |
| 11:18:21 | midk | else |
| 11:18:23 | midk | passed_time = 0; |
| 11:18:25 | midk | displayed_value = counter + passed_time; |
| 11:18:27 | midk | count_s = displayed_value / HZ; |
| 11:18:43 | LinusN | looks ok |
| 11:18:50 | midk | one last thing... |
| 11:18:53 | midk | oh lol |
| 11:18:54 | LinusN | except for the insane indentation |
| 11:18:57 | midk | i just said one last thing. |
| 11:19:05 | midk | ? |
| 11:19:22 | midk | doesn't really look like that.. some reason it looks different in xchat. |
| 11:19:33 | midk | anyways... VERY last thing.. dividing into minutes and seconds |
| 11:19:35 | LinusN | you use TAB characters, right? |
| 11:19:41 | midk | i replace them |
| 11:19:49 | midk | is this better? |
| 11:19:50 | midk | void show_counter(void) |
| 11:19:50 | midk | { |
| 11:19:50 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 11:19:50 | midk | if(counting) |
| 11:19:50 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 11:19:50 | midk | { |
| 11:19:51 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 11:19:51 | midk | passed_time = *rb->current_tick - start_tick; |
| 11:19:53 | midk | } |
| 11:19:55 | midk | else |
| 11:19:57 | midk | passed_time = 0; |
| 11:19:59 | midk | displayed_value = counter + passed_time; |
| 11:20:01 | midk | count_s = displayed_value / HZ; |
| 11:20:03 | midk | yes, it is. |
| 11:20:12 | midk | i wrote a simple macro that will replace tabs with four spaces to save you the time. :D |
| 11:20:41 | LinusN | midk: would be better to make the editor not use TAB's at all, don't you think? |
| 11:20:55 | Bagder | tabs are pure evil |
| 11:20:56 | midk | anyways.. i have count_s, count_m, and count_h which end up in char count_text like this |
| 11:20:56 | midk | rb->snprintf(count_text, sizeof(count_text), "%d:%02d:%02d", count_h, count_m, count_s); |
| 11:20:59 | midk | and no, can't fix that |
| 11:21:15 | LinusN | lame editor indeed |
| 11:21:22 | midk | :\ |
| 11:21:39 | Bagder | emacs is your friend |
| 11:21:45 | LinusN | midk: i'll leave the hour and minute calculation as an exercise for you |
| 11:21:45 | Bagder | :-) |
| 11:21:48 | midk | later later. |
| 11:21:55 | midk | LinusN, i've got it worked out |
| 11:21:58 | midk | just one problem i'm having |
| 11:22:10 | midk | which value do i subtract from to reduce seconds |
| 11:22:15 | midk | seems like "passed_time"? |
| 11:22:31 | LinusN | you only work on displayed_value |
| 11:22:50 | midk | we work on passed_time when we reset it.. |
| 11:23:05 | LinusN | displayed_value is the value to display on screen |
| 11:23:10 | midk | ok, so.. |
| 11:23:11 | midk | if(count_s >= 60) |
| 11:23:11 | midk | { |
| 11:23:11 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 11:23:11 | midk | displayed_value -= 60; |
| 11:23:11 | *** | Alert Mode level 6 |
| 11:23:11 | midk | count_m += 1; |
| 11:23:11 | *** | Alert Mode level 7 |
| 11:23:11 | midk | } |
| 11:23:22 | LinusN | no, no, no |
| 11:23:38 | midk | aw. |
| 11:24:12 | LinusN | displayed_value is the total number of ticks since you last reset the counter |
| 11:24:21 | midk | oh yeah |
| 11:24:27 | midk | then its |
| 11:24:36 | midk | displayed_value -= (60*HZ) |
| 11:24:38 | midk | :D |
| 11:24:43 | LinusN | nooooooo |
| 11:24:54 | LinusN | don't change displayed_value |
| 11:25:02 | midk | change count_s? |
| 11:25:11 | midk | count_s -= 60. |
| 11:25:52 | LinusN | hours = displayed_value / TICKS_PER_HOUR; |
| 11:26:16 | midk | *clicks teeth |
| 11:26:33 | midk | i calculate how many ticks per hour? |
| 11:26:53 | Bagder | HZ * 3600 |
| 11:26:57 | midk | that's |
| 11:26:57 | midk | 360000 |
| 11:27:01 | midk | WRONG |
| 11:27:03 | midk | oh |
| 11:27:04 | midk | right. |
| 11:27:26 | LinusN | you seem to think that count_m and count_h are counters themselves |
| 11:27:38 | LinusN | they shouldn't be |
| 11:27:42 | midk | well ok so we have hour and minute taken care of |
| 11:27:50 | midk | what about taking away from second every 60 then? |
| 11:28:08 | LinusN | listen: |
| 11:28:28 | LinusN | displayed_value is the only thing you need |
| 11:28:46 | LinusN | it tells you how many ticks have passed since you started counting |
| 11:28:50 | LinusN | ok? |
| 11:29:07 | midk | yes.... |
| 11:29:36 | LinusN | all you need now, is to calculate how manu hours, minutes and seconds that is |
| 11:30:11 | midk | i thought that's what i had earlier |
| 11:30:15 | midk | but you say this is more correct? |
| 11:30:16 | midk | count_s = displayed_value / HZ; |
| 11:30:16 | midk | count_m = displayed_value / (HZ*60) |
| 11:30:16 | *** | Alert Mode level 8 |
| 11:30:16 | midk | count_h = displayed_value / (HZ*3600) |
| 11:30:20 | midk | except for count_s. |
| 11:30:43 | midk | if(count_s >= 60) count_s -= 60; |
| 11:30:55 | LinusN | what you had earlier was an attempt to have an "hour" counter |
| 11:31:28 | LinusN | or rather, three separate counters |
| 11:31:38 | LinusN | count_s, count_m and count_h |
| 11:32:11 | LinusN | my approach is to have one single counter, in this case "displayed_value" |
| 11:32:12 | midk | right |
| 11:32:28 | midk | ohhkay. |
| 11:32:40 | LinusN | from that you can calculate how many hours, minutes and seconds that represents |
| 11:32:44 | midk | so remove count_s, -m, -h? |
| 11:32:51 | LinusN | keep them |
| 11:32:55 | LinusN | and do this: |
| 11:33:27 | LinusN | count_h = displayed_value / (HZ*3600); |
| 11:34:20 | midk | i just posted tjat. |
| 11:35:52 | midk | ok so that takes care of hours |
| 11:36:07 | midk | count_m = displayed_value / (HZ*60) |
| 11:36:08 | midk | ? |
| 11:36:37 | midk | oh wait |
| 11:36:40 | midk | WAITWAIT |
| 11:37:10 | midk | ha HA |
| 11:37:11 | midk | count_m = (displayed_value / (HZ*60)) - (count_h * 60); |
| 11:37:18 | midk | LinusN is that good or what |
| 11:38:16 | LinusN | should be count_h * HZ*3600, shouldn't it? |
| 11:38:40 | midk | oh, forgot we were dealing with ticks |
| 11:39:00 | midk | count_m = (displayed_value / (HZ*60)) - (count_h * HZ*3600);. |
| 11:39:53 | midk | aaannd... |
| 11:39:53 | midk | count_s = (displayed_value / HZ) - (count_m * HZ*60); |
| 11:40:17 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 11:42:49 | midk | aw |
| 11:42:55 | midk | was working well until it hit 1 minute |
| 11:43:02 | midk | then it turned into 0:01:-5 |
| 11:45:55 | LinusN | easy approach: |
| 11:46:10 | LinusN | displayed_value = displayed_value / HZ |
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| 11:46:25 | midk | but then it will count past 60 won't it? |
| 11:46:38 | LinusN | count_h = displayed_value / 3600; |
| 11:46:48 | midk | 360000 you mean? |
| 11:46:56 | LinusN | count_m = displayed_value % 3600 / 60 |
| 11:47:09 | LinusN | count_s = displayed_value % 60 |
| 11:47:21 | midk | are you sure about that 3600 is all |
| 11:47:33 | LinusN | midk: no, 3600, since i just divided displayed_value by HZ |
| 11:47:33 | midk | 3600*HZ = 360000 |
| 11:48:49 | LinusN | 11.46.10 # <LinusN> displayed_value = displayed_value / HZ |
| 11:49:05 | midk | ohh okay |
| 11:49:32 | midk | void show_counter(void) |
| 11:49:32 | midk | { |
| 11:49:32 | midk | if(counting) |
| 11:49:32 | midk | { |
| 11:49:32 | midk | passed_time = *rb->current_tick - start_tick; |
| 11:49:33 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 11:49:33 | midk | } |
| 11:49:35 | midk | else |
| 11:49:47 | midk | passed_time = 0; |
| 11:49:49 | midk | displayed_value = counter + passed_time; |
| 11:49:53 | midk | displayed_value = displayed_value / HZ; |
| 11:49:55 | midk | count_s = displayed_value % 60; |
| 11:49:57 | midk | count_m = displayed_value % 3600 / 60; |
| 11:49:59 | midk | count_h = displayed_value / 3600; |
| 11:50:01 | midk | rb->snprintf(count_text, sizeof(count_text), "%d:%02d:%02d", count_h, count_m, count_s); |
| 11:50:03 | midk | that should do. |
| 11:52:29 | LinusN | try it |
| 11:52:34 | midk | truing |
| 11:52:39 | midk | 0:00:25 |
| 11:52:41 | midk | *waits |
| 11:52:42 | midk | 35* |
| 11:52:48 | midk | :44 |
| 11:52:53 | midk | :48 |
| 11:53:02 | midk | :57 |
| 11:53:06 | midk | yay |
| 11:53:07 | midk | 1:01 |
| 11:53:09 | midk | YAY |
| 11:53:10 | midk | go linusn!!! |
| 11:53:17 | midk | *falls asleep now |
| 11:53:34 | midk | now all i have to do is fix the reset code |
| 11:53:43 | midk | oh, moment. |
| 11:55:47 | midk | EXCELLENT |
| 11:55:51 | midk | it is READY for RELEASE!! |
| 11:56:12 | midk | even excellenter.. it counts even while at help or mode selector |
| 11:56:48 | midk | well linus, extra thanks again |
| 11:56:52 | midk | time to release and go to bed |
| 11:57:23 | LinusN | sleep tight |
| 11:57:41 | midk | thankyou. |
| 11:59:34 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 12:00 |
| 12:02:10 | midk | ok LinusN, uploaded |
| 12:03:19 | midk | in the morning I *may* end up coding a count-up or -down screen, you will see it on the patch tracker at about 18:30 - 20:30 your time.. |
| 12:03:51 | midk | so please don't merge anything until 20:30-ish has passed.. if i have updated it i will upload it, if there is no update that means i have not coded it and you can merge the latest 6/29/04. |
| 12:04:02 | midk | thanks for your help again, and good night. |
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| 12:04:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midk|zZz |
| 12:06:51 | LinusN | lunch time |
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| 12:24:31 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 45 minutes and 50 seconds at the last flood |
| 12:24:31 | * | oxygen77 is away: chui pas là |
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| 13:58:59 | * | Christi-S waves. |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:20 | Christi-S | Updated my firmware today (using the Windows installer ;) ) now that I have a working display again and it tells me I'm not running the latest Rolo. What's changed, and does one have to go through all the palava of flashing 2.2 then updating again? |
| 14:05:32 | LinusN | just rolo the firmware file in the root |
| 14:06:10 | Christi-S | Oh. Thought I'd done that. Weird. |
| 14:07:01 | Bagder | what does it say exactly? |
| 14:07:35 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: u there? |
| 14:08:22 | Christi-S | Hint: You're not using the latest bootloader. A reflash is recommended but not required. |
| 14:08:39 | Christi-S | That's when you play the .UCL file |
| 14:08:39 | Zagor | i have that too. never bothered me :) |
| 14:09:00 | Bagder | that's when you've flashed with the older bootloader |
| 14:09:02 | Zagor | i don't remember exactly what the change is |
| 14:09:29 | LinusN | Zagor: the older boot loader can't boot with a flat battery |
| 14:09:35 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 14:10:11 | Christi-S | So does one have to download the bootloader packages and drop back to 2.2 for a bit to fix it then? |
| 14:11:40 | Bagder | wine is a pretty big thing |
| 14:11:58 | Bagder | the source tarball is 10MB |
| 14:12:02 | Christi-S | Yeah, that it is. |
| 14:12:13 | Christi-S | Don't you have a package of some kind you can install? |
| 14:12:23 | Christi-S | ISTR in't about 6MB compiled. |
| 14:12:23 | Bagder | perhaps |
| 14:12:32 | Bagder | but it'll put my in upgrade hell |
| 14:12:35 | Bagder | put me |
| 14:12:45 | Christi-S | Ah, right. What you running? |
| 14:12:54 | Bagder | redhat 7.2 in this case |
| 14:13:07 | Christi-S | Ah, no idea how to solve this for redhat. |
| 14:13:15 | Bagder | I go the tarball route |
| 14:14:06 | Bagder | we'll see where that'll take me ;-) |
| 14:14:53 | Christi-S | Hopefully it's not too hideous. |
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| 14:15:28 | Christi-S | If it were Debian I'd suggest using the latest Debian build script to make a backport package for yourself. No idea how you'd do that in Redhat. |
| 14:15:47 | Bagder | if it were debian, it would be easy ;-) |
| 14:16:43 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: I'm here |
| 14:17:42 | Christi-S | Well true. I just googled for a backported Wine and installed the latest one I could find (which wasn't all that recent, but did the job). |
| 14:19:05 | [IDC]Dragon | Christi-S: feel free to ask me about flashing |
| 14:19:08 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: was just wondering if you know how much room there is for a 1206 LED soldered on the side |
| 14:19:34 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: Jens rather recommended 0805 |
| 14:19:57 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought 1206 would fit, but haven't really tried |
| 14:20:30 | Christi-S | [IDC]Dragon - I wanted to know if one had to use the 2.2 firmware flash packages in order to update to the latest Rolo (which doesn't appear to be the one on my disk). |
| 14:20:37 | [IDC]Dragon | it may be very fragile, because the sideways mounting makes it stick out pretty far |
| 14:21:06 | [IDC]Dragon | Christi-S: not rolo, but the flash loader |
| 14:21:44 | Christi-S | Sorry - thought they were mostly the same code. Excuse my ignorance. |
| 14:21:53 | [IDC]Dragon | rolo is a feature of Rockbox which enables it to "play" .ajz |
| 14:22:15 | | Part Bagder |
| 14:23:18 | [IDC]Dragon | the flash loader has nothing to do with that, it unpacks the .ucl into RAM |
| 14:23:46 | Christi-S | They're both in some sense firmware loaders, hence the confusion. But anyway - do I need to use the firmware flash packages in order to update the flash loader? |
| 14:24:10 | [IDC]Dragon | yes please. |
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| 14:24:45 | [IDC]Dragon | you can update to a daily build .ucl straight away |
| 14:25:10 | [IDC]Dragon | just place the .bin file(s) from the pack in your root |
| 14:25:45 | * | Christi-S nods. You going to update the version of the firmware flash packages at some point? |
| 14:26:08 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, with every "stable" release |
| 14:26:17 | Christi-S | Ah, right. |
| 14:26:31 | Christi-S | Which is still waiting for me to get off my arse and do something with the manual. |
| 14:26:38 | Christi-S | Can I claim I got distracted? |
| 14:26:39 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
| 14:27:13 | [IDC]Dragon | I always enjoy distracting myself when facing certain work |
| 14:29:10 | Christi-S | You don't mention where the images are in FlashingRockbox. Is that deliberate? |
| 14:29:28 | [IDC]Dragon | ? |
| 14:29:54 | Christi-S | On the wiki. The guide to flashing doesn't tell you where to get the files. |
| 14:30:41 | Christi-S | Fortunately I appear to have put the details in BlindFAQ. Go me. ;) |
| 14:30:41 | LinusN | haha |
| 14:30:42 | [IDC]Dragon | the more simple and up to date documentation is this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/BlindFlashing |
| 14:31:22 | Christi-S | (Probably copied from your post of BlindFlashing to the list a while back.) |
| 14:31:41 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, Linus was so kind. |
| 14:34:04 | [IDC]Dragon | Christi-S: I dont's see the links in FlashingRockbox either, must have happened whil wiki-ing the article |
| 14:38:04 | [IDC]Dragon | Then it's not bound to a certain Rockbox version. |
| 14:38:04 | [IDC]Dragon | Maybe I should release the flash image with 2 copies of Archos software. |
| 14:38:27 | [IDC]Dragon | Anybody can play the .ucl he/she likes thereafter. |
| 14:39:04 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: http://www.wirelessity.ch/shop/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1802%7B6%7D32 |
| 14:39:05 | [IDC]Dragon | (oops, above two lines got swapped) |
| 14:40:05 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: btw, can i extract the original archos firmware from the flash? (lost my backup) |
| 14:40:25 | [IDC]Dragon | looks good, how much is a CHF? |
| 14:40:32 | Christi-S | There's a bunch of original firmwares on BlueChip's site. |
| 14:41:14 | LinusN | 100 CHF (Switzerland Franc) = 63.434 EUR (European Currency Units Euro) |
| 14:41:20 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: you woudn't need a backup if the content is still in your flash |
| 14:41:33 | LinusN | i want to upgrade my boot loader |
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| 14:41:51 | Zagor | we should try to not have to distribute the archos firmware. we're not allowed to. |
| 14:41:52 | scott666 | archos .bins arent allowed to be posted on the rockbox site, right?\ |
| 14:42:07 | scott666 | damn you zagor |
| 14:42:08 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, flash the full image |
| 14:42:09 | scott666 | lol |
| 14:42:10 | Zagor | :) |
| 14:42:39 | Christi-S | [IDC]Dragon - I'd stick with a one rockbox image, particularly if has has speech support. (Once speech support for plugins is done, it'll be perfect because then flashing should become pretty much as easy for a blind person as for a sighted.) |
| 14:43:07 | [IDC]Dragon | that wasn't my point |
| 14:43:28 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: the full flash image contains the archos fw? |
| 14:43:53 | [IDC]Dragon | I mean, if I distribuste a flash image and twice Archos software in it, it's independent of any Rockbox version. |
| 14:44:10 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: yes, in the front part. |
| 14:44:40 | LinusN | badness, i don't think we're allowed to do that |
| 14:45:00 | LinusN | which version btw? |
| 14:45:06 | [IDC]Dragon | I got Archos' blessing from ther chief developer |
| 14:45:13 | LinusN | aha, ok then |
| 14:45:28 | [IDC]Dragon | verbally |
| 14:45:37 | LinusN | 1.28? |
| 14:45:52 | [IDC]Dragon | for all the models, it's the latest I could get hold of |
| 14:46:05 | [IDC]Dragon | for recorder, it's 1.28 |
| 14:46:28 | [IDC]Dragon | but there once was somebody posting he had 1.29 |
| 14:46:46 | [IDC]Dragon | unfortunately he had not kept a backup |
| 14:48:07 | Christi-S | Weird - I get "Wrong plugin" when I try to run firmware_flash. |
| 14:48:54 | [IDC]Dragon | make sure you have a consistent version, including plugins |
| 14:49:21 | [IDC]Dragon | rolo into it, or start with F+On |
| 14:49:22 | Christi-S | It *ought* to be. |
| 14:49:31 | Christi-S | I'll clean up + reinstall. |
| 14:52:06 | * | Christi-S wonders if perhaps it's a bug in the Windows installer. Is firmware_flash different for different recorders? |
| 14:52:31 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 14:52:52 | [IDC]Dragon | well, I think |
| 14:54:37 | Christi-S | Seems likely. Arse. I'll have to special case it - the installer assumes that plugins are consistent over the recorder models. Hopefully this is true for all other plugins. |
| 14:54:59 | Christi-S | Hmm - what about rockbox_flash? |
| 14:54:59 | [IDC]Dragon | why do you assume that? |
| 14:55:13 | Christi-S | Seemed like a good idea at the time? |
| 14:55:39 | Christi-S | Plus reduces the size of the archive if you're not carrying around three copies of the same code. |
| 14:56:07 | Christi-S | Seems to work for other plugins. |
| 14:56:17 | [IDC]Dragon | firmware_flash has a model check, to protect you from flashing the wrong image |
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| 14:56:56 | [IDC]Dragon | rockbox_flash is not so critical, since it only updates the second copy. |
| 14:57:06 | [IDC]Dragon | No checks there. |
| 14:57:08 | Christi-S | It must be the same code though - I've already successfully run the recorderv1 plugin on my FM. |
| 14:57:44 | [IDC]Dragon | you're probably right, the plugin API is the same. |
| 14:58:08 | [IDC]Dragon | "normal" plugins should only be interested in that API. |
| 14:58:19 | Christi-S | That's what I'd have thought. So what's the machine dependency in rockbox_flash? |
| 14:58:42 | [IDC]Dragon | As I said, to protect you. |
| 14:59:02 | [IDC]Dragon | firmware_flash I mean, sorry. |
| 14:59:23 | * | [IDC]Dragon opens up the code |
| 14:59:55 | Christi-S | I meant firmware_flash, sorry. |
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| 15:00:04 | Christi-S | Bah, now I'm confusing myself. |
| 15:00:31 | Christi-S | Right. I'll just confirm this. |
| 15:00:36 | [IDC]Dragon | I should have giveen them more distinct names |
| 15:04:55 | Bagder | "Please ensure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly." |
| 15:04:57 | Bagder | sigh |
| 15:05:09 | Christi-S | Annoying, isn't it. |
| 15:05:25 | Christi-S | Especially as all the output of ISCC is on the command line. |
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| 15:06:05 | Bagder | ... and I'm on a windows box far away, logged in over ssh ... |
| 15:06:33 | * | LinusN has now reflashed with the new boot loader |
| 15:06:47 | dwihno | a new boot loader(?) |
| 15:06:59 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: spelling mistake: it's "sure", not "shure" |
| 15:07:10 | LinusN | in firmware_flash.c |
| 15:07:16 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: I do that all the time |
| 15:07:19 | Christi-S | [IDC]Dragon - any reason why the firmware_flash can't just check that the firmware image is appropriate for your archetecture, or does it actually need different code for different architectures (ie is the flashing procedure different on a v1 and an FM)? |
| 15:07:25 | [IDC]Dragon | hard to shake |
| 15:08:20 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: feel free to fix, I have no cvs possibility here |
| 15:08:55 | Christi-S | bagder: vnc? You might be able to leave a minimal X server running with that without needing a connection. |
| 15:08:58 | [IDC]Dragon | Christi-S: The image file is different for the models |
| 15:09:33 | Bagder | Christi-S: I have an xserver on my cygwin here too |
| 15:09:51 | Bagder | but I'll try more later on anyway |
| 15:10:21 | Christi-S | [IDC]Dragon: Do you mean the .bin files? |
| 15:10:33 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 15:10:36 | Christi-S | Or something actually in firmware_flash.rock |
| 15:11:03 | [IDC]Dragon | not really |
| 15:11:29 | * | Christi-S nods. So theoretically, firmware_flash from the v1 should run on the fm, right? |
| 15:12:15 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: committed |
| 15:12:29 | Christi-S | (It doesn't.) |
| 15:13:09 | [IDC]Dragon | Christi-S: I'm just paranoid. There is no good way to check the model the plugin is running on. |
| 15:13:41 | [IDC]Dragon | So I stamp it at compile time. |
| 15:13:58 | Christi-S | Ah - well it would mean I'd have to special case firmware_flash in the installer. Any chance you'd consider taking that out? |
| 15:14:29 | [IDC]Dragon | sor safety, no. |
| 15:14:34 | [IDC]Dragon | for |
| 15:14:53 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, and the filename it uses is different per model |
| 15:15:19 | Christi-S | OK - never mind. Probably a good idea to have support for architecture specific plugins anyway, in case anyone writes a plugin for the radio, say. |
| 15:16:01 | [IDC]Dragon | the player has a different set of plugins anyway |
| 15:16:17 | [IDC]Dragon | the API is a lot different there |
| 15:16:18 | Christi-S | Supports there for the player already. |
| 15:16:37 | [IDC]Dragon | so you have a second set |
| 15:17:14 | * | Christi-S nods. I don't want to duplicate all of the recorder plugins three times though. |
| 15:17:50 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe the packing can be done in a smart way, by the script(s) |
| 15:18:24 | [IDC]Dragon | like, if there are identical plugins, use a link |
| 15:18:36 | Christi-S | Yeah, that's what I'll have to do. I'm trying to build in as few dependencies as possible though, because I don't want every upgrade breaking the install scripts. |
| 15:18:50 | Christi-S | Hardcoding file names was something I've managed to avoid till now. |
| 15:19:04 | Bagder | then check for binary diffing files |
| 15:19:13 | Christi-S | Oh, ISWYM. |
| 15:19:31 | Christi-S | Bagder - good plan. I can always md5sum each plugin. |
| 15:19:35 | [IDC]Dragon | that's what I meant, yes |
| 15:20:01 | * | Christi-S sighs. Oh, but writing that in sh is going to be fun. I *knew* I should have used Perl. |
| 15:20:08 | Bagder | haha |
| 15:20:44 | [IDC]Dragon | you can use Perl in sh... |
| 15:20:52 | Christi-S | True. |
| 15:21:08 | Bagder | md5sum -c checks the checksum |
| 15:21:13 | Bagder | it isn't that hard to do in sh |
| 15:21:28 | * | Christi-S nods. I just like to bitch. |
| 15:21:37 | Bagder | although I think going perl will be easier in the long run |
| 15:21:59 | [IDC]Dragon | so many script languages to choose from... |
| 15:22:14 | [IDC]Dragon | how about Ruby? ;-) |
| 15:23:21 | Christi-S | Well, the idea was to keep it as lightweight as possible so as not to use too much resources. |
| 15:23:30 | Christi-S | That's why I originally went for sh rather than perl. |
| 15:23:45 | lImbus | perl is not a resource ;-) |
| 15:24:44 | dwihno | perl \o/ |
| 15:25:53 | Christi-S | Oh, f***, I'm still getting a "you're not using the latest bootloader" error message after rerunning firmware_flash. |
| 15:26:19 | [IDC]Dragon | foulmouth! |
| 15:26:38 | * | Bagder washes Christi-S's mouth with soap ;-) |
| 15:26:38 | * | dwihno never did ruby |
| 15:26:45 | * | dwihno never did Ruby Wax ;) |
| 15:26:51 | dwihno | SOAP? :) |
| 15:27:14 | [IDC]Dragon | are you sure you got the 2.2 image from my webspace? |
| 15:27:42 | LinusN | Christi-S: i just updated my boot loader and it worked for me |
| 15:27:57 | Christi-S | Just making certain now. |
| 15:28:57 | Christi-S | No, appears I didn't. Weird - I'm sure I opened it from Mozilla. |
| 15:29:40 | Christi-S | No, I tell a lie. It's definitely filestamped today. |
| 15:29:53 | Christi-S | Linus - what model JB do you have? |
| 15:31:21 | LinusN | i have a recorder v1 |
| 15:31:24 | Christi-S | OK - that's unconvincing. The firmware-fm.bin timestamp is March. |
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| 15:31:48 | [IDC]Dragon | did I goof? |
| 15:31:58 | Christi-S | [IDC]Dragon - it's possible, yes. |
| 15:32:02 | Christi-S | Could you check? |
| 15:32:13 | [IDC]Dragon | not until tonight |
| 15:32:27 | Christi-S | Either that or something bloody weird is happening with caches. |
| 15:33:28 | [IDC]Dragon | timestampt is march 12th for all of them |
| 15:34:03 | Christi-S | OK - this is getting weirder. |
| 15:34:33 | Christi-S | So I *do* have the most recent firmware loader installed but rockbox_flash claims I haven't? |
| 15:34:40 | [IDC]Dragon | 2.2 was released march 11th, so this is plausible |
| 15:34:59 | Christi-S | Aha - unless rockbox_flash is architecture dependent too. |
| 15:35:28 | * | [IDC]Dragon feels a clue |
| 15:36:15 | * | Christi-S sighs. I'm glad I found this rather than a user. ;) Would've been hell to debug via someone else. |
| 15:36:58 | [IDC]Dragon | rockbox_flash is architecture dependent too. |
| 15:37:14 | [IDC]Dragon | for the sole reason to chech the bootloader. |
| 15:37:21 | [IDC]Dragon | check |
| 15:38:06 | [IDC]Dragon | so you got the wrong one, not for your model |
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| 15:40:57 | Christi-S- | Bah - I detest dialup. |
| 15:42:07 | Christi-S- | Right. All fixed. Now I just need to figure out how to rewrite the installer. |
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| 16:55:52 | mo1e | hello everyone |
| 16:56:14 | mo1e | i'm a bit confused on flashing my v2 |
| 16:56:25 | mo1e | i can't seem to find where to get the BIN file... |
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| 17:42:32 | mo1e | i'm a bit confused on flashing my v2 |
| 17:42:34 | mo1e | i can't seem to find where to get the BIN file... |
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| 17:49:14 | dstar5 | ? |
| 17:49:36 | dstar5 | are you talking about the bin file you flash? |
| 17:49:56 | mo1e | yes |
| 17:50:12 | dstar5 | it is in the zip file you download |
| 17:50:52 | mo1e | i downloaded the daily build... |
| 17:51:31 | mo1e | it's not in there... |
| 17:51:33 | dstar5 | no, it is in the zip file you flash with |
| 17:51:39 | dstar5 | hold on, ill give you a link |
| 17:53:23 | dstar5 | humm.. wher is that link |
| 17:54:11 | dstar5 | are you updating your flash? or have you already flashed rockbox? |
| 17:54:29 | mo1e | upgrading |
| 17:54:38 | mo1e | shouldn't the how to include a link or something |
| 17:55:14 | dstar5 | ohh, then what you do is look for a .ucl file |
| 17:55:20 | dstar5 | and just "play" it |
| 17:55:33 | dstar5 | (it is in the daily build) |
| 17:55:59 | mo1e | ohhh ok |
| 17:56:05 | mo1e | so the bin is really just the bootloader? |
| 17:56:11 | dstar5 | yes |
| 17:56:18 | mo1e | gotcha |
| 17:56:26 | dstar5 | :) |
| 17:56:32 | dstar5 | gluck |
| 17:57:17 | mo1e | i was always a bit confused |
| 17:57:20 | mo1e | but now i understand |
| 17:58:52 | mo1e | how come the newer versions have that bar on the bottom that tell you what the F keys do? |
| 17:58:58 | mo1e | can that be disabled? |
| 17:59:17 | dstar5 | yes, look in the settings |
| 17:59:33 | dstar5 | some people wanted it, i find it annoying myself |
| 17:59:43 | mo1e | i guess the selected font isn't written to saved config files |
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| 18:01:10 | mo1e | or maybe it is... |
| 18:01:11 | mo1e | hmmm |
| 18:01:26 | mo1e | there are more settings since version 2.2 |
| 18:01:39 | dstar5 | yes |
| 18:01:55 | dstar5 | i recommend almost always to use daily builds |
| 18:03:15 | mo1e | i've just been hesitant due to bugs, but it seems like rockbox is pretty solid |
| 18:03:39 | dstar5 | bugs are nothing to really worry about |
| 18:03:56 | dstar5 | they do happen somtimes, but usualy, you want even notice them |
| 18:04:07 | dstar5 | and if you do, they will not harm your unit |
| 18:04:15 | mo1e | yup |
| 18:04:17 | mo1e | the Anti-Skip buffer....what does this setting actually do? |
| 18:04:47 | dstar5 | it starts the disk buffering early, incase it will have trouble loading |
| 18:05:44 | mo1e | ah |
| 18:06:34 | mo1e | does voice work automatically or is there something i have to do.... |
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| 18:27:20 | dstar5 | voice? you need to download voicefonts |
| 18:27:23 | dstar5 | hi pfavr |
| 18:27:39 | pfavr | hi dstar5 |
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| 19:17:42 | dstar5 | bye pfavr |
| 19:17:46 | dstar5 | thanks for your hel0p |
| 19:17:49 | dstar5 | help |
| 19:17:56 | pfavr | cu |
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| 22:25:06 | kagami | hello I have a small question |
| 22:25:28 | midk | perhaps if you ask it will be answered |
| 22:25:55 | kagami | how do you get rid of the *panic* screen it seems like my jukebox is frozen up |
| 22:26:03 | midk | hold your off button |
| 22:26:05 | kagami | is there a restart button? |
| 22:26:09 | midk | what model? |
| 22:26:12 | midk | fm/v2? |
| 22:26:42 | kagami | oh hah dang it was that simple |
| 22:26:49 | midk | :) |
| 22:26:56 | kagami | I guess you have to hold it for like 5 seconds instead of 3 |
| 22:27:00 | kagami | haha |
| 22:27:05 | kagami | well thanks anyway |
| 22:27:08 | midk | yeah |
| 22:27:10 | midk | hold 5 to reset |
| 22:27:18 | midk | 3 will turn it off if it isnt locked up |
| 22:27:20 | midk | or more like 2.. |
| 22:27:20 | kagami | you are an incredibly smart man |
| 22:27:25 | midk | haha :) |
| 22:27:33 | kagami | thankyou |
| 22:27:33 | midk | i read the manual. :D |
| 22:27:36 | kagami | :) |
| 22:29:02 | kagami | hmm I also have nother question |
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| 22:29:31 | midk | DSTAR DSTAR |
| 22:29:32 | kagami | how do I get windows to recognize my USB device, when it says nothings plugged in you know? |
| 22:29:33 | midk | surely. |
| 22:29:51 | midk | is it on and plugged in and at usb screen? |
| 22:30:08 | kagami | yeah it has a big ol USB icon on the screen |
| 22:30:21 | kagami | but windows says theres no external device |
| 22:30:30 | midk | hmm |
| 22:30:32 | kagami | like no new harddrive to play with man |
| 22:30:36 | midk | :) |
| 22:30:45 | midk | um.. maybe <windows><break> |
| 22:30:50 | midk | pause/break* |
| 22:30:55 | midk | hardware, |
| 22:30:57 | midk | device manager |
| 22:30:59 | kagami | what the |
| 22:31:03 | midk | see if it's under Unknown Devices |
| 22:31:12 | kagami | how do i get there? |
| 22:31:18 | midk | hold windows, press pause/break |
| 22:31:22 | midk | like alt+f4 |
| 22:31:23 | kagami | windows xp |
| 22:31:26 | midk | yeah. |
| 22:31:29 | kagami | no its not |
| 22:31:31 | midk | windows key next to ctrl. |
| 22:31:41 | midk | pause next to scroll lock and num lock |
| 22:32:09 | kagami | oh right |
| 22:32:11 | midk | plug it in btw. |
| 22:32:23 | midk | make sure your batteries aren't low |
| 22:32:25 | kagami | man that says thats controlled only under the system administrator |
| 22:32:40 | midk | ? |
| 22:32:42 | kagami | they arent low man |
| 22:32:42 | midk | dah |
| 22:32:49 | midk | hmm |
| 22:32:55 | kagami | this isnt my computer |
| 22:32:57 | midk | so nothing happens when you plug it in? |
| 22:33:00 | kagami | its my boss's |
| 22:33:01 | midk | no daDA sound? |
| 22:33:10 | kagami | he doesnt know I'm in here now |
| 22:33:24 | kagami | not as far as windows is concerned |
| 22:33:35 | midk | hmmmm |
| 22:33:50 | kagami | stupid thing |
| 22:33:59 | midk | but it probably works on your computer, right? |
| 22:34:14 | kagami | hey is archos charging when its hooked up to the USB? |
| 22:34:15 | amiconn | midk: U versioning me? |
| 22:34:19 | midk | yes it is |
| 22:34:20 | kagami | does that work to charge too? |
| 22:34:24 | midk | amiconn: ... *looks away |
| 22:34:26 | midk | :) |
| 22:34:28 | midk | i did, yes. |
| 22:34:33 | kagami | oh, cuzz it looked like it |
| 22:34:34 | kagami | anyway |
| 22:34:45 | kagami | yeah it works on my computer |
| 22:34:59 | midk | hmm |
| 22:35:01 | midk | very weird then |
| 22:35:08 | midk | try a different usb port? |
| 22:35:36 | kagami | ok |
| 22:36:26 | kagami | man stupid thing |
| 22:36:33 | kagami | nevermind |
| 22:36:49 | midk | ok |
| 22:36:50 | midk | sry |
| 22:37:04 | kagami | it is being a pain in the butt |
| 22:37:26 | kagami | do you think he will be mad if I destroy his computer? |
| 22:37:53 | kagami | or maybe drop it out the window? |
| 22:38:05 | kagami | cuzz it deserves it. |
| 22:38:23 | midk | umm |
| 22:38:24 | midk | probably. |
| 22:38:37 | kagami | how sure of this are you? |
| 22:39:15 | midk | about... 100% sure |
| 22:39:20 | kagami | hey I got nother question |
| 22:39:41 | kagami | is theres a version of tetris that is vertical, not horizontal for Rockbox |
| 22:39:57 | midk | no.. but i was trying to code it earlier.. |
| 22:40:09 | midk | i'll probably work on it today since i've finished my clock update |
| 22:40:29 | kagami | cuzz tetris blocks dont normally fall horizontally |
| 22:40:42 | kagami | ok man |
| 22:40:48 | kagami | you can do it I know you can |
| 22:40:54 | kagami | :) |
| 22:41:03 | amiconn | midk: What happened to breakout btw? |
| 22:41:27 | midk | amiconn: nothing... i need linusn to merge a function that allows me to speed up keypress repeat rate |
| 22:41:38 | midk | i have no idea on the status of that. |
| 22:42:11 | amiconn | Ahh, the keypress thingy... |
| 22:42:21 | midk | yah |
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| 23:13:41 | dstar | hi midk |
| 23:14:04 | midk | yo dids. |
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| 23:24:37 | amiconn | Hi LinusN |
| 23:24:42 | LinusN | yo |
| 23:25:10 | amiconn | Did you read the reports on my ata test 2? |
| 23:25:18 | LinusN | midk: tetris is rotated 90 degrees for a very good reason |
| 23:25:29 | LinusN | amiconn: yes, looks promising |
| 23:25:36 | amiconn | Especially Pedro's reply is promising... |
| 23:25:39 | midk | LinusN: yes... |
| 23:25:42 | LinusN | exactly |
| 23:25:43 | midk | but it COULD be vertical, no? |
| 23:26:04 | LinusN | of course it can, but it will be smaller |
| 23:26:10 | midk | right. |
| 23:26:21 | LinusN | we rotated it (and the buttons) to use the screen better |
| 23:26:22 | amiconn | LinusN: A question - could you look up if some special people are still subscribed to the ml? |
| 23:26:23 | midk | i think people are willing to sacrifice a bit of block size for verticalness |
| 23:26:27 | midk | well i will have an option for it,. |
| 23:26:45 | LinusN | midk: the wjole point is that you should rotate the jukebox |
| 23:27:05 | midk | but if you don't want to? |
| 23:27:12 | midk | i don't like placing my hand(s) on the right |
| 23:27:24 | midk | *i* prefer playing it horizontal without rotating it |
| 23:27:30 | midk | but.. i am very different from most. |
| 23:27:40 | LinusN | maybe an upside-down option? |
| 23:27:48 | amiconn | lol |
| 23:28:04 | midk | let's just have normal, rotated 90, 180 and 270 options. |
| 23:28:04 | LinusN | for lefties |
| 23:28:08 | midk | lol |
| 23:28:12 | midk | i use both hands |
| 23:28:44 | LinusN | amiconn: who are you looking for? |
| 23:32:00 | amiconn | I have a theory about these corruptions (I had them back in March already, but Jörg though that it is unlikely) |
| 23:32:12 | midk | LinusN, if i code a vertical option, would it be rejected? |
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| 23:34:08 | LinusN | midk: no |
| 23:34:31 | LinusN | amiconn: tell me |
| 23:35:21 | amiconn | The corruption occurs with Hitachi DK23CA disks, but _only_ on v1 Recorders with mask 0x0102. |
| 23:35:23 | LinusN | midk: is the clock ready to merge? |
| 23:37:31 | amiconn | Although the single different bit to the more widespread 0x0302 is the lcd bias, I think because 0x0102 is definitely a different hardware revision, the ata delay circuits may be a bit different also. |
| 23:38:05 | LinusN | amiconn: doesn't sound too unlikely |
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| 23:42:56 | amiconn | LinusN: Furthermore, either one of the facts that the writing is now optimized also, the reading is different (and even faster) than back in Feb, or some other change in ata.c makes it work now for 0x0102 masked recorders |
| 23:43:11 | LinusN | spooky |
| 23:44:13 | amiconn | LinusN: There are a number: You changes to the ata_reset behaviour (to bash the rld problem), my no-spindown-by-the-disk change... |
| 23:44:36 | LinusN | ah, of course |
| 23:54:53 | amiconn | LinusN: My theory is backed by the fact that 2 of the 3 reporters of fs corruption happen to have a v1 Recorder with mask 0x0102 and Hitachi DK23CA (of the 3rd I don't know the mask) |
| 23:55:34 | amiconn | Another user (from Sweden :)) happens to have the same disk with a 0x0302 masked recorder, and reported noo problems. |
| 23:55:41 | amiconn | *no |
| 23:55:52 | LinusN | henrik backe, no? |
| 23:55:56 | amiconn | yup |
| 23:56:27 | LinusN | so, if your theory is correct, we can adapt by checking the mask |
| 23:56:31 | LinusN | if needed |
| 23:56:41 | amiconn | if needed, yes |
| 23:57:15 | amiconn | I asked Pedro to check with real use for a while if he dares... |
| 23:57:25 | LinusN | yeah, saw that |
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