| 00:15:31 | uski85145 | linus has done this back to 2002 |
| 00:17:28 | midk | 'this'? |
| 00:17:53 | uski85145 | the serial mod for recorders |
| 00:17:58 | uski85145 | i can't find any info on the website |
| 00:18:07 | uski85145 | i found for platyers and FMs |
| 00:18:13 | uski85145 | but nothing for recorders !!! |
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| 00:29:00 | uski85145 | i have to dig into the SH1 hardware manual... |
| 00:29:10 | uski85145 | i'll take shotys so people won't have to do that again ! |
| 00:29:13 | midk | ooh, tasty. |
| 00:32:17 | scott666 | i might be the same for players and recorders |
| 00:32:35 | scott666 | but im not really sure |
| 00:32:58 | midk | ha. |
| 00:33:07 | midk | probably more l ike fm==rec |
| 00:33:13 | scott666 | no |
| 00:33:17 | midk | YES |
| 00:33:20 | scott666 | fm and recs have totally different hardware |
| 00:33:25 | midk | sfu |
| 00:33:30 | midk | actually no. |
| 00:33:32 | midk | really... |
| 00:33:44 | midk | the player has a different mas, the fm and rec are the same |
| 00:33:50 | midk | the player has a different lcd, the fm and rec are the same |
| 00:33:59 | midk | the player has a different button layout, the fm and rec are the same |
| 00:34:14 | scott666 | yeah but the shape and design are the same |
| 00:34:22 | midk | umm |
| 00:34:23 | midk | wow. |
| 00:34:24 | midk | but |
| 00:34:26 | midk | same hw. |
| 00:34:41 | midk | so they look similar.. they are very different. |
| 00:40:25 | Jt740 | archos no longer make the recorders and players |
| 00:42:02 | midk | naw, really? |
| 00:42:51 | Jt740 | im being serious |
| 00:42:57 | Jt740 | they are no longer on the Archos website |
| 00:43:06 | midk | i know |
| 00:43:10 | Jt740 | :( |
| 00:43:12 | midk | they stopped about a year ago |
| 00:43:16 | Jt740 | yea |
| 00:43:23 | midk | so.. is this news or what? |
| 00:43:35 | Jt740 | what |
| 00:43:39 | midk | nm. |
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| 01:22:16 | uski85145 | i did it |
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| 01:22:22 | uski85145 | i only have to find a level converter |
| 01:22:29 | uski85145 | i'm sure i have some into my stuff |
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| 02:43:47 | midk | ze ze |
| 02:44:02 | ze | sup |
| 02:44:09 | midk | yay |
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| 02:44:11 | midk | he talks |
| 02:44:32 | midk | i just got the impulse to say something to ze.. sorry. |
| 02:49:42 | ze | hehe |
| 02:50:10 | midk | i miss your code. |
| 02:50:15 | midk | and your difference cloud renders |
| 02:50:41 | ze | the cloud was povray media |
| 02:51:02 | midk | suure |
| 02:51:03 | midk | *coughd |
| 02:51:07 | ze | it's a particle system with a 3-dimensional density map |
| 02:51:12 | midk | *coughs*differenccloud*coughs |
| 02:51:18 | ze | but i used an algorithm for the density map |
| 02:51:20 | ze | plus turbulence |
| 02:51:25 | midk | ze i know 3d gfx too. particle systesms have no 3d density maps |
| 02:52:10 | ze | well it's not like a normal "particle system", that might not be the right term |
| 02:52:20 | ze | it's for clouds, fog, and whatever else you wanna use it for |
| 02:52:43 | midk | you mean volumetric fog? |
| 02:52:46 | ze | you can set various values for absorption, scattering, and emission |
| 02:52:47 | midk | DIFFERENCE CLOUDS |
| 02:53:28 | ze | you have it globally (i think) for fog or whatever |
| 02:53:35 | ze | or you can have it contained in an object |
| 02:53:49 | midk | well |
| 02:53:49 | ze | and then you can give it a 3D density map |
| 02:53:54 | midk | yeah whatever |
| 02:53:58 | midk | what program were you using |
| 02:54:09 | ze | either pre-renedered in image slices like voxel sorta deal i guess |
| 02:54:12 | ze | or algorithmic |
| 02:54:19 | ze | POV-Ray |
| 02:54:23 | midk | yeah RIGHT |
| 02:54:24 | ze | povray.org |
| 02:54:29 | midk | *coughs*PHOTOSHOP*CCOUGHS |
| 02:54:34 | midk | god. something stuck in my throat |
| 02:54:37 | midk | it wants to burst out |
| 02:54:40 | midk | it just might in a moment |
| 02:55:01 | ze | i don't use photoshop at all |
| 02:55:07 | ze | i use gimp for photoshop-type things |
| 02:55:17 | ze | anyway, my dinner's ready |
| 02:55:17 | ze | hehe |
| 02:55:41 | midk | SURE |
| 02:55:46 | midk | you always use that excuse |
| 02:55:56 | midk | every time i point out you're a phony, you have to go eat. |
| 02:56:17 | ze | i can do renderings that show it's 3D-ness |
| 02:56:26 | ze | in fact i have but you've got some lame excuse for not being able to see it |
| 02:56:34 | midk | OH RIgHT |
| 02:56:35 | midk | so |
| 02:56:37 | midk | all i have to do |
| 02:56:44 | midk | is make some difference clouds |
| 02:56:53 | midk | offset it a bit both left and right |
| 02:56:55 | midk | and call it 3d? |
| 02:57:08 | ze | no |
| 02:57:11 | midk | shure. |
| 02:57:12 | ze | you won't get any depth |
| 02:57:19 | ze | it'll still be flat |
| 02:57:21 | midk | i never did with your imitation3d pictures. |
| 02:57:32 | ze | it just might look like the whole flat surface is sunk in or standing out maybe |
| 02:57:59 | ze | in mine, if you can see it right, you can see areas in the foreground and areas in the background and inbetween and whatnot |
| 02:58:05 | ze | but i'm hungry damnit bbl |
| 02:58:09 | midk | you LIAR |
| 02:58:13 | midk | well come back to irc |
| 02:58:19 | midk | we can finish this discussin afterwards. |
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| 03:29:32 | ze | heh |
| 03:29:41 | midk | yo. |
| 03:29:44 | midk | now where were we |
| 03:30:02 | ze | background{rgb 0}camera{location <0,0,-3>}sphere{0,20 hollow texture{pigment{rgbt 1}finish{ambient 0 diffuse 0}}interior{media{absorption 0 emission <0.37,0.65,1> intervals 7 density{function{1-min(1,sqrt((x*x*x)+(y*y*y)+(z*z*z)))}turbulence 0.9}}}} |
| 03:30:15 | ze | there's a condensed version of the POV-Ray source code that it's rendered with |
| 03:30:26 | midk | ookay.. |
| 03:30:29 | ze | you can see the 3D density map function |
| 03:31:13 | midk | whaever. |
| 03:31:14 | ze | which, in the non-condensed version, is more clearly visible like |
| 03:31:15 | ze | density { |
| 03:31:15 | ze | function { 1.0-min(1, sqrt((x*x*x) + (y*y*y) + (z*z*z))) } |
| 03:31:15 | ze | turbulence 0.9 |
| 03:31:15 | ze | } |
| 03:31:30 | midk | ok fine.. it wasnt difference clouds |
| 03:31:42 | midk | but i could have made the same effect with difference clouds |
| 03:32:04 | ze | you could have made something with a gross superficially resemblance |
| 03:32:21 | ze | but it'd be distinguishable by any hypersensitive individual |
| 03:32:21 | ze | heh |
| 03:32:42 | midk | lol.. well. that means you couldn't tell the difference. |
| 03:33:43 | ze | yes, i could |
| 03:33:57 | ze | apparently i'm hypersensitive |
| 03:33:59 | ze | heh |
| 03:34:21 | midk | hypersensitive? |
| 03:34:24 | midk | you? |
| 03:34:39 | midk | for the sake of the logs, i will not go into detail here but what i am thinking in general is "LOL" |
| 03:34:47 | ze | though personally i think sensitivity comes in vectors |
| 03:35:03 | ze | it's got not only magnitude but direction |
| 03:35:26 | midk | um |
| 03:35:27 | midk | stupid. |
| 03:35:30 | midk | i mean |
| 03:35:32 | midk | sir smart! |
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| 08:28:55 | Guest1 | hi there. I was looking for help with my archos player and rockbox. The songs play in alphabetical order even though they are by track in MY MUSIC. Any suggestions?? |
| 08:29:07 | midk | yes |
| 08:29:11 | midk | 01 - Track XX.mp3 |
| 08:29:17 | midk | 02 - Track YY.mp3 |
| 08:29:24 | midk | 03 - Track ZZ.mp3 |
| 08:30:01 | Guest1 | Ok, Im a total newbie. How do I do this. |
| 08:31:44 | midk | rename them |
| 08:32:11 | Guest1 | Gotcha. Thanks |
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| 09:15:47 | [konn] | h |
| 09:15:49 | [konn] | ihi |
| 09:15:56 | [konn] | hi god damn :) |
| 09:16:01 | midk | haha |
| 09:16:05 | midk | yeah? |
| 09:17:09 | [konn] | well i have this locked Fujitsu MHK2060AT hdd and found something about it from rockbox mailing list |
| 09:17:42 | [konn] | just wanted to be sure, if i don't know the master password, is it hopelessly screwed then? |
| 09:19:20 | midk | um |
| 09:19:25 | midk | there is none if you read about it |
| 09:19:27 | midk | tere shouldn't be |
| 09:20:34 | [konn] | none what? |
| 09:20:49 | [konn] | don't understand ya.. |
| 09:21:04 | [konn] | http://rockbox.haxx.se/lock.html |
| 09:22:42 | midk | riight |
| 09:22:44 | midk | they say |
| 09:22:47 | midk | no password. |
| 09:26:24 | [konn] | if english is your first language, then i'm dumb |
| 09:26:42 | [konn] | if not, then it has to be the other way around :p |
| 09:27:03 | [konn] | i say i hawe this god damned disk |
| 09:27:38 | [konn] | and the page says i need master password to unlock it with a certain method |
| 09:28:15 | [konn] | but, what it doesn't say is if i don't have the god damned password, am i doomed or is there anything else i should try |
| 09:29:34 | midk | um |
| 09:29:42 | midk | listen to me now |
| 09:29:46 | midk | you don't need a password. |
| 09:29:48 | midk | it is empty. |
| 09:30:00 | [konn] | how do you know? |
| 09:30:11 | midk | it says that. |
| 09:30:41 | [konn] | well, if somebody set the password for example |
| 09:30:47 | midk | if you think that we lie when we say there is no password maybe i am lying now telling you that we are right... |
| 09:30:47 | [konn] | how can IT say? |
| 09:31:04 | midk | um... done talking... already told you what you need to know. good luck. |
| 09:31:20 | midk | unless you've got a real question that is. |
| 09:31:40 | [konn] | well this site is something about some firmware and stuff, ok, but this is not my case |
| 09:31:51 | [konn] | i just have this drive in my old laptop |
| 09:32:08 | midk | not a rockbox disk? |
| 09:32:13 | [konn] | and now this son of a bitch has locked itself |
| 09:32:21 | [konn] | no, no rockbox |
| 09:32:29 | midk | ah. apologies. should have mentioned that |
| 09:32:49 | midk | yes, if you have no password (though there should be none) you're probably screwed. |
| 09:33:02 | [konn] | just that's the only site on earth that writes something about it |
| 09:33:18 | [konn] | btw, what is a rockbox? |
| 09:33:21 | midk | ah, ok.. just be a bit clearer next time.. |
| 09:33:27 | midk | firmware for archos mp3 players |
| 09:34:11 | [konn] | mp3 players with 6GB ide disks? |
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| 09:34:29 | midk | yes, up to 20gb. |
| 09:34:47 | midk | newer video players go up to 80gb |
| 09:34:56 | [konn] | interesting, never heared of anything like that |
| 09:35:15 | [konn] | so they use x86 arch too i suppose? |
| 09:35:48 | midk | mind's a bit numb atm.. what's x86 again? |
| 09:35:51 | midk | lol.. |
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| 09:36:29 | midk | *yawwnssss |
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| 09:37:26 | [konn] | x86, like 686 and ibm pc architecture |
| 09:37:37 | [konn] | i mean, do they run linux or freebsd inside? |
| 09:37:48 | midk | no.. |
| 09:37:59 | midk | just a small "firmware" (operating system) |
| 09:38:04 | midk | no sort of power to run linux |
| 09:38:07 | midk | at least these machines |
| 09:38:19 | [konn] | well, if it decodes dvd |
| 09:38:23 | midk | the newer archoses, av320,340,380 probably can |
| 09:38:29 | midk | and.. it does not decode dvd |
| 09:38:32 | midk | where did you hear that? |
| 09:38:37 | midk | it does mp3 only. |
| 09:38:39 | [konn] | ok, just mp3 |
| 09:38:39 | midk | 12mhz. |
| 09:38:41 | midk | h1. |
| 09:38:42 | [konn] | hmm |
| 09:38:44 | midk | sh1* |
| 09:39:58 | [konn] | i've always wanted to build a dvd player using regular pc parts and linux on USB stick |
| 09:40:02 | [konn] | never got time |
| 09:40:10 | midk | AHahaha |
| 09:40:13 | midk | sounds cool.. |
| 09:40:17 | midk | but the usb stick idea made me laugh |
| 09:40:46 | [konn] | i run Damnsmallinux from usb right now |
| 09:40:54 | [konn] | wery fast and cool |
| 09:40:56 | midk | cool.. |
| 09:42:04 | [konn] | and this DVD player then could download movies from internet, have web interface for configuring and so on |
| 09:42:32 | midk | um |
| 09:42:36 | midk | sounds complicated |
| 09:43:19 | [konn] | and, it could even rip dvd-s, re-encode movies and burn them, all this could be driven by a imple IR remote |
| 09:43:28 | midk | *coughs |
| 09:46:18 | [konn] | well my great grandpa always sayd, what you can't do with windoze, you can do with linux :p |
| 09:46:37 | midk | LOL |
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| 10:21:26 | [konn] | this is most definitely not my day |
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| 10:21:57 | [konn] | it's just around 11 o'clock and i've already fryed 3 things |
| 10:22:06 | midk | like? |
| 10:22:19 | [konn] | two at90s1200-s |
| 10:22:29 | [konn] | and one VGA board |
| 10:22:47 | [konn] | gf4 mx440 |
| 10:22:52 | midk | woo.. sounds crummy |
| 10:23:08 | midk | well go buy a new fx6800ultraprosupersilverchromeplated! |
| 10:23:22 | [konn] | i don't need this |
| 10:23:50 | [konn] | i need gpu power only for 2D acceleration and video filters |
| 10:24:13 | [konn] | and some 3d for quake3 sometimes :] |
| 10:24:49 | midk | you need the ait 9800 pro. |
| 10:24:51 | midk | ati* |
| 10:24:55 | midk | or the fx 6800 ultra pro. |
| 10:25:09 | [konn] | ati is shit itself |
| 10:25:31 | [konn] | even matrox has a better unix support |
| 10:26:19 | [konn] | indeed, when you compare it to ati, i would say gorgeous |
| 10:27:22 | midk | EXIT THE MATROX |
| 10:28:50 | [konn] | holy cow, there's new nvidia driver released and i knew nothing about it |
| 10:28:57 | midk | OMG |
| 10:28:57 | midk | WOW |
| 10:29:06 | [konn] | http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-6106.html |
| 10:29:20 | [konn] | and see what the first line of changelog says |
| 10:29:48 | midk | ha see. |
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| 11:58:14 | Mike_k | Hi there, first time on IRC, I just made a really bad stupid newbie mistake... looking for help |
| 11:58:37 | midk|sleep | i may be able to.. |
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| 12:00:32 | Mike_k | Thanks... I just flashed my rockbox. Followed the steps to flash the stable 2.2, no problem, everything went well... then I flashed BlueChip's custom build, because I like the audio controls. Next time I tried to turn off, the red LED came on, now the unit is totally frozen, I can't turn it off. It's a recorder V2. Any advice? Is there a way to reset this thing? It's totally unresponsive. |
| 12:01:28 | midk|sleep | um |
| 12:01:33 | midk|sleep | hold off for five seconds |
| 12:02:00 | Mike_k | Oh, look at that, I just wasn't patient enough. Whew! Thanks. |
| 12:02:26 | midk|sleep | sure :) |
| 12:02:30 | midk|sleep | time for my nick to take effect. |
| 12:02:32 | midk|sleep | nite all. |
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| 12:31:10 | minitrx | heya! |
| 12:31:31 | minitrx | any1 owns a archos jbr ? |
| 12:32:30 | midk|sleep | dare i respond? |
| 12:33:12 | minitrx | sure |
| 12:33:18 | midk|sleep | okay, yes i do |
| 12:34:13 | minitrx | have you experienced that the jbr suddenly shuts down (power off) while you move/touch the case? |
| 12:34:21 | midk|sleep | no. |
| 12:35:57 | minitrx | mhh my jbr is ~2years old and this occured quite often recently |
| 12:37:42 | minitrx | i wondered wether the power supply contacts eased? |
| 12:37:55 | midk|sleep | try posting to the mailing list |
| 12:38:34 | minitrx | i could do so, thx |
| 12:38:47 | midk|sleep | sure |
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| 17:05:51 | uski85145 | anyone here has access to some C compiler for windows ? |
| 17:06:02 | uski85145 | i would need to make a mod to joerg's uart_boot.exe |
| 17:06:13 | uski85145 | there is a simple "true" to change to "false" |
| 17:07:04 | BlueChip | could download the devkit? |
| 17:07:17 | uski85145 | which devkit ? |
| 17:07:26 | uski85145 | i need a windows compiler, to create windows .exe |
| 17:07:28 | BlueChip | the one on my website for rockbox :) |
| 17:07:34 | uski85145 | not a crosscompiler to compile code to the SH1 :) |
| 17:07:49 | BlueChip | the UI simulator does not compile with the SH-1 tools |
| 17:07:57 | uski85145 | hmm, can u give me the url ? :) |
| 17:08:24 | BlueChip | homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems |
| 17:08:58 | uski85145 | ty |
| 17:09:02 | BlueChip | ;) yw |
| 17:14:23 | uski85145 | doesn't work ;) |
| 17:14:32 | uski85145 | your installer (setup.bat) generates many errors |
| 17:14:50 | BlueChip | oh! |
| 17:14:57 | BlueChip | such as? |
| 17:15:06 | BlueChip | what os? |
| 17:15:17 | uski85145 | "the system can't run the specified program" (translation from my french windows so it may be slightly different in an english windows) |
| 17:15:19 | uski85145 | win xpo |
| 17:15:20 | uski85145 | xp |
| 17:16:23 | BlueChip | hm, no complaints before - any idea which program is failing to run? |
| 17:16:43 | uski85145 | i got aprox 30 lines like that before i "ctrl+c"ed it |
| 17:16:59 | uski85145 | maybe a PATH problem |
| 17:17:02 | uski85145 | i don't know |
| 17:17:02 | BlueChip | sounds like the path has failed to set correctly |
| 17:17:06 | uski85145 | yea |
| 17:17:25 | BlueChip | SET PATH=..\bin;..\usr\bin;%windir%\command;%windir%\system32 |
| 17:17:40 | BlueChip | maybe "command" and "system32" are different in french? |
| 17:18:00 | uski85145 | nope |
| 17:18:05 | uski85145 | lemme try |
| 17:18:36 | uski85145 | doesn't work better even when i set the PATH manually :\ |
| 17:19:05 | BlueChip | can you remove "@echo off" and see which command(s) is generating the error |
| 17:19:25 | uski85145 | perhaps this system has a problemù, i don't usually use it, i'ts not really my computer (it's one of a relative, because i don't run windows anymore on my main box ;)) |
| 17:19:29 | uski85145 | yea wait |
| 17:20:09 | uski85145 | #flood |
| 17:20:36 | uski85145 | (come ther, i don't want to flood #rockbox ;)) |
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| 17:50:30 | uski | mo0 |
| 17:50:35 | BlueChip | kwak |
| 17:50:53 | uski | :) |
| 17:56:33 | uski | if [idc]dragon comes, tell him i'll be back on 10mins (soldering work) |
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| 18:01:07 | BlueChip | you got it |
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| 19:20:44 | [IDC]Dragon | hey, so many uski's here |
| 19:27:54 | uski | hi |
| 19:27:56 | uski | im there |
| 19:28:00 | uski | the other one is on my "lab" ;) |
| 19:28:13 | uski | i have a strange problem with the UART boot on a recorder |
| 19:28:23 | [IDC]Dragon | which is? |
| 19:28:27 | uski | i have to pull the LCD lines down to get the box boot from ROM, right ? |
| 19:28:40 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 19:28:49 | uski | and if it works, the red led will blink, right ? |
| 19:28:57 | [IDC]Dragon | but don't pull too hard |
| 19:29:11 | [IDC]Dragon | it won't blink by itself |
| 19:29:19 | uski | ok |
| 19:29:26 | [IDC]Dragon | the program has an option to do that |
| 19:29:28 | uski | lemme switch to the PC of the lab |
| 19:29:37 | uski | ok, i did sth strange |
| 19:29:41 | uski | and it did blink by itself |
| 19:29:49 | uski | when i saw your uart boot mod on your website |
| 19:30:03 | uski | i first thought that i should connect the pullXXX resistor network to some pin of the connector |
| 19:30:09 | uski | actually the second one from the left row |
| 19:30:15 | uski | (check the pict) |
| 19:30:18 | uski | and when i did that |
| 19:30:22 | [IDC]Dragon | which? |
| 19:30:23 | uski | the RED led did blink |
| 19:30:42 | [IDC]Dragon | slowly, please |
| 19:30:50 | uski | ok ;) |
| 19:30:52 | [IDC]Dragon | you have a recorder? |
| 19:30:57 | uski | yea |
| 19:31:00 | uski | V1 |
| 19:31:01 | uski | with BOOT ROM |
| 19:31:02 | [IDC]Dragon | ok |
| 19:31:05 | uski | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/uart_boot/Recorder_overview.jpg |
| 19:31:10 | uski | i did the UART boot mod |
| 19:31:33 | uski | seeing the pict, i thought i should connect the common point of the resistor network to the second pin of the "big" connector |
| 19:31:45 | [IDC]Dragon | no |
| 19:31:46 | uski | i didn't see that your wire isn't connected there and is hidden by the connector itself |
| 19:31:55 | uski | but then i understood i should connect it to GND |
| 19:31:56 | [IDC]Dragon | it's just passing under it |
| 19:32:05 | uski | yea but when i did that |
| 19:32:12 | uski | the red led did blink :) |
| 19:32:27 | uski | perhaps the ROM firmware saw that the flash was garbled and blinked the led ? |
| 19:32:30 | [IDC]Dragon | with an empty flash? |
| 19:32:32 | uski | [brb, switching PC] |
| 19:32:38 | uski | not an emptyu one, a "garbaged" one |
| 19:32:49 | [IDC]Dragon | OK |
| 19:33:03 | [IDC]Dragon | the the uart mode wasn't detected |
| 19:33:07 | [IDC]Dragon | then |
| 19:33:09 | uski85145 | ok |
| 19:33:14 | uski85145 | so, i did it again |
| 19:33:19 | uski85145 | connecting the wire to the chassis |
| 19:33:33 | [IDC]Dragon | if you normally switch on and the content is crap, the bootloader blinks |
| 19:33:58 | uski85145 | ok "good" |
| 19:34:02 | uski85145 | (at leadst it's alive) |
| 19:34:06 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 19:34:08 | uski85145 | lemme try with a correct UART boot mod |
| 19:34:17 | [IDC]Dragon | and you have a boot ROM ;-) |
| 19:34:22 | uski85145 | y ;) |
| 19:34:28 | uski85145 | but i did check that (crc) |
| 19:34:54 | [IDC]Dragon | you scratched that PCB trace apart? |
| 19:35:09 | [IDC]Dragon | between pullup and Vcc? |
| 19:35:12 | uski85145 | y |
| 19:35:36 | uski85145 | now, if i launch uart_boot.exe like that: |
| 19:35:41 | uski85145 | uart_boot -r -p COM1 |
| 19:35:43 | uski85145 | it says |
| 19:35:46 | uski85145 | Downloading monitor... |
| 19:35:47 | uski85145 | and that's all |
| 19:35:52 | uski85145 | i checked with an oscilloscope |
| 19:36:01 | [IDC]Dragon | does your box still blink? |
| 19:36:03 | uski85145 | and it sends something (one or two bytes) |
| 19:36:06 | uski85145 | and that's all |
| 19:36:11 | uski85145 | nope, it doesn't blink anymore |
| 19:36:18 | [IDC]Dragon | no response? |
| 19:36:19 | uski85145 | i.e. no reply from the recorder |
| 19:36:27 | uski85145 | _but_ |
| 19:36:32 | uski85145 | i am ont sure if i did the serial mod correctly |
| 19:36:37 | uski85145 | as i was not able to find any pict of this |
| 19:36:41 | uski85145 | for a recorder v1 |
| 19:36:47 | uski85145 | so i took the SH1 hardware manual |
| 19:36:57 | uski85145 | and i connected a wire to the TX1 pin |
| 19:37:07 | uski85145 | i checked your minimon.c file, it seems it's using UART1 |
| 19:37:13 | uski85145 | am i right ? |
| 19:37:17 | [IDC]Dragon | there are 2 pinouts, use the second |
| 19:37:24 | uski85145 | yea |
| 19:37:26 | uski85145 | 120 pins |
| 19:37:39 | uski85145 | i checked it was the good one (the RXD1 pin was connectedx to the line in connector) |
| 19:37:43 | [IDC]Dragon | (I made a mistake once) |
| 19:38:09 | [IDC]Dragon | remote pin at ear, you mean? |
| 19:38:18 | uski85145 | yea |
| 19:38:43 | uski85145 | the eonly weird thing in my setup is the level converter |
| 19:38:45 | [IDC]Dragon | there are 2 convenient vias near the CPU |
| 19:38:54 | uski85145 | it's a ST232, i.e. RS232=>5V TTL |
| 19:38:58 | uski85145 | but i added a resistor |
| 19:39:05 | uski85145 | so the clamp diodes on the SH1 does everything |
| 19:39:12 | uski85145 | yea, i used these |
| 19:39:38 | [IDC]Dragon | and close to where the green wires from the line in ends |
| 19:39:41 | uski85145 | i would have liked to compile a uart_boot with bAck = false |
| 19:39:45 | uski85145 | but i don't have a compiler |
| 19:39:53 | uski85145 | yea |
| 19:40:07 | uski85145 | there is also a small resistor network that pulls the TX line up or down, i don't remember |
| 19:40:11 | [IDC]Dragon | so you can go without transmit from the box |
| 19:40:24 | uski85145 | yea biut i need a correct uart_boot for this |
| 19:40:31 | uski85145 | and i do not have a C compiler for windows |
| 19:40:32 | uski85145 | :\ |
| 19:40:46 | uski85145 | i checked your code, i only have to change bAck to false |
| 19:40:50 | [IDC]Dragon | it would be better to fix your TX |
| 19:41:03 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, I know |
| 19:41:04 | uski85145 | why ? ;) |
| 19:41:07 | uski85145 | the flash is garbled |
| 19:41:09 | uski85145 | it doesn't matter |
| 19:41:15 | uski85145 | if it flashes it badly, i'll reflash again |
| 19:41:23 | [IDC]Dragon | so you can read |
| 19:41:35 | uski85145 | right... |
| 19:41:44 | uski85145 | but i can't find the problem with the TX of the SH1 :\ |
| 19:41:50 | uski85145 | it doesn't send the data at bootup |
| 19:41:57 | uski85145 | it should send %STARTUP% or so |
| 19:42:06 | uski85145 | you know, the "hello" string after which u must send RCL\r or so |
| 19:42:13 | [IDC]Dragon | no |
| 19:42:22 | [IDC]Dragon | that's not the bootloader |
| 19:42:32 | uski85145 | it's the flash ? |
| 19:42:33 | [IDC]Dragon | the Archos flash part does that |
| 19:42:37 | uski85145 | ok i understand then ! :) |
| 19:42:54 | uski85145 | lemme take the oscilloscope |
| 19:42:55 | * | [IDC]Dragon opens the project... |
| 19:42:55 | uski85145 | 30secs |
| 19:43:00 | uski85145 | (ty :)) |
| 19:47:21 | uski85145 | WORKS |
| 19:47:26 | uski85145 | red led flashing |
| 19:47:28 | uski85145 | AHAHAHA |
| 19:47:35 | uski85145 | [IDC]Dragon you're a wizard |
| 19:47:37 | uski85145 | you come here |
| 19:47:39 | uski85145 | and it works |
| 19:47:42 | [IDC]Dragon | what did I do? |
| 19:47:49 | uski85145 | well, i don't know |
| 19:47:52 | uski85145 | you went there |
| 19:47:55 | [IDC]Dragon | what did you do? |
| 19:47:56 | uski85145 | i think it was enough LOL |
| 19:47:59 | uski85145 | nothing ! |
| 19:48:13 | [IDC]Dragon | now go and flash it |
| 19:48:25 | uski85145 | before, i download the flash content |
| 19:48:29 | uski85145 | just to see what was on it ;) |
| 19:48:34 | uski85145 | (it's a factory programmed flash) |
| 19:48:44 | uski85145 | i hope that i don't have any shorts on the flash |
| 19:48:55 | uski85145 | hot air soldering is a bit tricky, i'm not used to it |
| 19:48:57 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, like Andreas |
| 19:49:10 | uski85145 | i did check each pin for short with the next pin |
| 19:49:12 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't like that method |
| 19:49:20 | [IDC]Dragon | (hot air) |
| 19:49:30 | uski85145 | do you know which file i should use for flashing ? |
| 19:49:40 | uski85145 | well, when i got my hot air station iu found the method really... shitty |
| 19:49:49 | uski85145 | but now, with more and more practice, i find it better each time |
| 19:50:01 | [IDC]Dragon | use the .bin file |
| 19:50:12 | uski85145 | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash/flash_rec.zip |
| 19:50:14 | uski85145 | the .bin file here ? |
| 19:50:20 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 19:50:23 | uski85145 | ok ty |
| 19:50:26 | uski85145 | downloading... |
| 19:50:51 | uski85145 | going to the command prompt... |
| 19:50:55 | uski85145 | may you confirm the command line ? |
| 19:50:58 | [IDC]Dragon | firmware_rec.bin |
| 19:51:10 | [IDC]Dragon | you wanted to read first? |
| 19:51:30 | uski85145 | i did it |
| 19:51:33 | uski85145 | with -r moo.bin |
| 19:51:35 | uski85145 | -p COM2 -r -f firmware_rec.bin |
| 19:51:38 | uski85145 | is that ok for flashing ? |
| 19:51:47 | [IDC]Dragon | looks ok |
| 19:51:52 | uski85145 | ok |
| 19:51:56 | * | uski85145 looks the red button |
| 19:51:59 | * | uski85145 FIRES ! |
| 19:52:41 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, I forgot, what hardware mask value do you have? |
| 19:53:02 | [IDC]Dragon | if it's different from mine, you need to patch it into the file |
| 19:53:03 | uski85145 | ...no idea |
| 19:53:11 | uski85145 | i forgot to check |
| 19:53:17 | uski85145 | is that a big problem ? :) |
| 19:53:18 | [IDC]Dragon | do you have a dump from your firmware |
| 19:53:22 | [IDC]Dragon | ? |
| 19:53:29 | uski85145 | yea but it's on the 2.5" HDD |
| 19:53:38 | [IDC]Dragon | hmmph |
| 19:53:40 | uski85145 | hmm |
| 19:53:45 | uski85145 | i have a small ide adapter |
| 19:53:45 | BlueChip | my web site? |
| 19:53:48 | uski85145 | to connect it to my PC |
| 19:53:54 | [IDC]Dragon | then we need to try |
| 19:53:56 | uski85145 | is it REALLY important ? |
| 19:54:09 | [IDC]Dragon | no danger |
| 19:54:30 | uski85145 | then i simply start it |
| 19:54:35 | uski85145 | and i'l see |
| 19:54:42 | uski85145 | what may happen if it is the wrong mask ? |
| 19:54:48 | [IDC]Dragon | but it can give you wrong LCD contrast, wrong polarity for a signal |
| 19:55:14 | uski85145 | ok |
| 19:55:19 | uski85145 | now im checking the flash content |
| 19:55:25 | uski85145 | to see if i have any short |
| 19:55:26 | [IDC]Dragon | reading it back? |
| 19:55:29 | uski85145 | y |
| 19:55:32 | [IDC]Dragon | ok |
| 19:55:44 | uski85145 | i dunno how i'll compare.. |
| 19:55:50 | uski85145 | i don't have any tools on this win32 box |
| 19:55:54 | [IDC]Dragon | it always does 512 KB |
| 19:55:58 | uski85145 | yea |
| 19:56:03 | uski85145 | i need to compare byte per byte |
| 19:56:07 | [IDC]Dragon | takes a while |
| 19:56:17 | uski85145 | yea, if i don't have the required software |
| 19:56:26 | [IDC]Dragon | you can use TotalCommander |
| 19:56:26 | uski85145 | lemme download some md5sum for windows or so |
| 19:56:46 | [IDC]Dragon | no, that won't help, since the dump is longer |
| 19:57:18 | [IDC]Dragon | http://www.ghisler.com/ |
| 19:57:19 | uski85145 | http://etree.org/md5com.html |
| 19:57:24 | uski85145 | oh ok |
| 19:57:35 | uski85145 | so i compare only the first bytes of the dump |
| 19:57:51 | uski85145 | i.e. if the flash file is 1000 bytes long, then i compare the first 1000 bytes of the dump |
| 19:57:56 | uski85145 | ok ? (of course it's longer than 1000 bytes ;)) |
| 19:57:57 | [IDC]Dragon | how about just starting it? |
| 19:58:00 | uski85145 | hmm |
| 19:58:01 | uski85145 | right |
| 19:58:17 | uski85145 | (i should really add a small switch for the uart boot) |
| 19:58:26 | [IDC]Dragon | that's what I did |
| 19:58:40 | uski85145 | i salveged some _very_ thin switched from a CD player |
| 19:58:42 | uski85145 | i should use one |
| 19:58:45 | uski85145 | wait i do this |
| 19:58:46 | uski85145 | 5mins |
| 19:58:51 | [IDC]Dragon | but since flashing is stable, I never used it any more |
| 19:59:18 | [IDC]Dragon | TV prime time starts now, I'm off |
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| 20:01:55 | uski85145 | ok |
| 20:01:57 | uski85145 | ty :) |
| 20:02:09 | uski85145 | aaah |
| 20:02:13 | uski85145 | red led flashes |
| 20:02:15 | uski85145 | baad |
| 20:02:54 | uski85145 | hmm |
| 20:02:59 | uski85145 | firmware dump is "empty" |
| 20:04:23 | * | uski85145 is powering up the hot air station...... |
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| 20:28:27 | [IDC]Dragon | can't help you now, will check back later |
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| 21:28:53 | cam1 | hello, are there any upgrades that will allow a Jukebox Studio 20 to record from the line input? |
| 21:29:03 | midk | no |
| 21:29:12 | cam1 | ok |
| 21:30:54 | webmind_ | cam1, the studia doesn't have the hardware for that |
| 21:30:57 | webmind_ | studio |
| 21:31:10 | midk | webmind speaks! |
| 21:31:15 | webmind_ | midk, owh.. sorry |
| 21:31:17 | webmind_ | :)\ |
| 21:31:22 | midk | ;) |
| 21:31:32 | * | webmind_ shuts up again :) |
| 21:31:36 | | Nick webmind_ is now known as webmind (~cme2@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) |
| 21:31:42 | cam1 | ok, I figured so, just making sure |
| 21:31:43 | midk | haha. no. |
| 21:31:45 | midk | don't. |
| 21:32:04 | cam1 | time to find one that records |
| 21:32:17 | midk | recorder 20. |
| 21:32:21 | midk | or v2.. |
| 21:33:43 | cam1 | what about the gmini 120 |
| 21:34:01 | midk | no open source for it |
| 21:34:15 | midk | the recorders have a good lcd, so there are all sorts of rockbox games and demos and graphics for it |
| 21:34:19 | midk | even a video player.. |
| 21:34:28 | cam1 | ah, okm, they still make the jukebox 20 recorder? |
| 21:35:45 | midk | you can probably find it at amazon.. |
| 21:36:11 | cam1 | there are some on ebay, too |
| 21:36:42 | midk | oh.. not at amazon.. discontinued, |
| 21:36:46 | midk | yes, ebay could work |
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| 21:39:51 | midk | go scott.; |
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| 22:40:13 | midk | yo bc |
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| 22:51:55 | BlueChip | yo |
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| 22:58:16 | midk | wb bc |
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| 23:17:35 | dstar5 | yo midk |
| 23:17:47 | midk | hey dids! |
| 23:17:48 | dstar5 | and BlueChip |
| 23:18:25 | * | dstar5 is in mississippi |
| 23:19:08 | webmind | my condoleances ? |
| 23:19:09 | midk | cool |
| 23:19:20 | midk | he speaks! |
| 23:19:30 | webmind | owh shit |
| 23:19:47 | midk | :) |
| 23:19:53 | dstar5 | webmind, hi |
| 23:20:01 | webmind | yeah... high :) |
| 23:20:30 | dstar5 | must be... |
| 23:20:51 | * | webmind should actually fix his player.. it's been broken for weeks now |
| 23:21:01 | * | dstar5 loves fireworks |
| 23:21:02 | uski85145 | what's the problem ? |
| 23:21:09 | webmind | loose contact... |
| 23:21:12 | uski85145 | ok |
| 23:21:20 | * | uski85145 is currently broking his player |
| 23:21:26 | webmind | just need to do some soldering, and aply some more permanent presure |
| 23:21:29 | * | dstar5 will be back later |
| 23:21:32 | webmind | breaking ? |
| 23:21:39 | * | dstar5 waves by, and kisses midk |
| 23:21:42 | uski85145 | oops yea, brEAking ;) |
| 23:21:43 | midk | k dids |
| 23:21:44 | midk | later. |
| 23:21:44 | webmind | bye day star |
| 23:21:46 | midk | um no. |
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| 23:21:55 | midk | i will accept a hug tho |
| 23:21:58 | uski85145 | (i thought there was a spelling error somewhere but i couldn't catch it ;)) |
| 23:22:07 | webmind | hehe |
| 23:22:29 | webmind | so what are you doing to it ? |
| 23:22:33 | uski85145 | i replaced my non flashable chip by a flashable one |
| 23:22:36 | midk | at least webmind has returned. |
| 23:22:38 | uski85145 | the problem is.. it doesn't work |
| 23:22:41 | midk | uski did that go well? |
| 23:22:49 | midk | what do you mean? |
| 23:22:51 | uski85145 | and i'm afraid it will not work anymore when i'll put back the original chip, if i abandon |
| 23:23:04 | midk | wait. doesn't work as in... what? |
| 23:23:04 | uski85145 | i can't program the flash |
| 23:23:07 | webmind | err.. the chip on the player was flashable wasn't it ? |
| 23:23:17 | midk | webmind: not all are |
| 23:23:21 | webmind | aah fok |
| 23:23:22 | uski85145 | yes, it was a SST37VF020, those damn unflashable chips |
| 23:23:33 | webmind | k |
| 23:23:33 | uski85145 | so i put a SST39VF020, the "good" chip |
| 23:23:35 | uski85145 | a new blank one |
| 23:23:36 | midk | uski: well.. followed intstructions? |
| 23:23:46 | uski85145 | but, with the uart boot and the serial mod... no luck |
| 23:23:48 | uski85145 | of course ;) |
| 23:23:54 | midk | hmm. |
| 23:23:55 | uski85145 | i was with [idc]dragon a few hours ago |
| 23:23:59 | webmind | damn... I should kill those people in that bell tower |
| 23:24:04 | uski85145 | we tried to debug my setup with no luck |
| 23:24:07 | webmind | fokking ringing bells at 23.00 |
| 23:24:25 | uski85145 | lol |
| 23:24:52 | webmind | uski85145, and placing the old back won't work you think ? |
| 23:24:57 | uski85145 | i'ts too bad they don't manufacture the recorders anymore |
| 23:25:07 | webmind | maybe |
| 23:25:10 | uski85145 | webmind, i'm afraid of trying ;) and i'd like to succeed with this mod |
| 23:25:17 | webmind | not sure i've i'll buy an archos next time |
| 23:25:21 | uski85145 | yea |
| 23:25:22 | webmind | uski85145, hmk |
| 23:25:25 | uski85145 | i bought an archos only for rockbox |
| 23:25:29 | uski85145 | that's the _only_ reason |
| 23:25:33 | webmind | hehe |
| 23:25:43 | webmind | when i bought it was actually the best hd player |
| 23:25:43 | uski85145 | and i'll drop a note to archos |
| 23:25:53 | uski85145 | it wasn't when i bought it |
| 23:25:58 | uski85145 | i could have bought a creative zen or so |
| 23:25:59 | uski85145 | much better |
| 23:26:14 | uski85145 | i.e. the case isn't as shitty as the recorder's |
| 23:26:15 | webmind | i've recently looked at the rio karma thuogh.. but that's no mass storage device.. ergo crap |
| 23:26:21 | uski85145 | yea |
| 23:26:36 | webmind | the zen doesn't play ogg |
| 23:26:39 | uski85145 | im thinking of designing my own mp3 player |
| 23:26:45 | webmind | sounds like fun |
| 23:26:57 | uski85145 | i have the skills, only time may be lacking |
| 23:27:10 | * | webmind 'll be buying a zaurus sl-6000 which would do nicely as mp3 player aswell |
| 23:27:17 | uski85145 | hmm :) |
| 23:27:27 | uski85145 | power consumption will be ... how to say... ;) |
| 23:27:38 | webmind | not really |
| 23:27:39 | uski85145 | "cool i can listen to 1 hour of music !" |
| 23:27:49 | webmind | zaurus is quite efficient... |
| 23:27:56 | uski85145 | "and the volume gradually descresas, so it protects my ears !" |
| 23:27:58 | webmind | and with some battery modding :) |
| 23:28:10 | uski85145 | %$£@#&! im bored of this shitty archos |
| 23:28:21 | midk | uski |
| 23:28:24 | webmind | should've gotten a recorder :) |
| 23:28:24 | uski85145 | if there wasn't rockbox i would have dropped it away |
| 23:28:28 | midk | did you run my clock update before you killed it |
| 23:28:36 | uski85145 | midk: ? |
| 23:28:39 | midk | btw if you dont want it i'll take it :D |
| 23:28:43 | uski85145 | it's not killed..... yet |
| 23:28:44 | webmind | midk, clock updat for player ? |
| 23:28:50 | midk | no.. recorder only, sorry |
| 23:28:52 | webmind | damn my typos :) |
| 23:28:54 | uski85145 | (i do have a _recorder_ not a player) |
| 23:28:59 | webmind | aaah ok |
| 23:29:02 | webmind | nm |
| 23:29:05 | uski85145 | ;) |
| 23:29:05 | midk | my clock is recorder only |
| 23:29:07 | midk | buut... |
| 23:29:14 | midk | i could maybe add a small player clock for it. |
| 23:29:26 | uski85145 | midk: ? a clock on players ? |
| 23:29:29 | webmind | i thought player didn't have the hardware for it ? |
| 23:29:30 | uski85145 | will be quite hard: no RTC |
| 23:29:35 | webmind | uhuh |
| 23:29:36 | midk | i knew that |
| 23:29:39 | midk | I KNEW THAT |
| 23:29:43 | midk | i was just testing you |
| 23:29:45 | uski85145 | so it will work only when the player is switched on |
| 23:29:45 | webmind | yeah yeah |
| 23:29:48 | uski85145 | lool |
| 23:29:55 | BlueChip | could possibly still do a stopwatch though |
| 23:29:56 | webmind | orr add an rtc :) |
| 23:29:57 | uski85145 | now it's time for us to test you :P |
| 23:30:00 | midk | go bcbc. |
| 23:30:03 | uski85145 | BlueChip yea |
| 23:30:12 | uski85145 | but it would be quite expensive for a stopwatch |
| 23:30:23 | uski85145 | adding a RTC wouldn't be very hard i think |
| 23:30:33 | uski85145 | just some 4-5 wires to solder, not more |
| 23:30:38 | webmind | uski85145, add a counter :) |
| 23:30:43 | BlueChip | just add a small dughter board to the i2c bus i would guess |
| 23:30:48 | webmind | hmm |
| 23:30:52 | uski85145 | but. now, my problem is to get back my recorder to life |
| 23:31:00 | webmind | yes |
| 23:31:01 | uski85145 | "dr carter !! hurry !" |
| 23:31:11 | uski85145 | "is dr green away ?" |
| 23:31:29 | uski85145 | hmm, no reactions ? nobody knows this tv thingy ? |
| 23:31:50 | uski85145 | i think that the english name is "emergencies" |
| 23:32:02 | uski85145 | doh ? |
| 23:32:09 | webmind | nope |
| 23:32:10 | uski85145 | DONT LET ME ALONE |
| 23:32:12 | webmind | not a clue |
| 23:32:26 | uski85145 | :) |
| 23:32:40 | uski85145 | %$£@#& fuckin damn player shitty hardware !!!!!!! |
| 23:32:40 | uski85145 | GRGERZRZET |
| 23:32:51 | uski85145 | i don't understand why they stopped making it |
| 23:33:00 | uski85145 | they must have made 65487858585$ of benefits with that shit |
| 23:33:37 | uski85145 | gtg to bed |
| 23:33:40 | webmind | uski85145, i thought you had a recorder ? |
| 23:33:41 | webmind | nite |
| 23:33:48 | uski85145 | i mean |
| 23:33:50 | uski85145 | plauyer |
| 23:33:56 | uski85145 | player = mp3 player |
| 23:34:01 | webmind | yes |
| 23:34:02 | uski85145 | for me, a recorder is a player ;) |
| 23:34:07 | webmind | no no |
| 23:34:09 | uski85145 | ;) |
| 23:34:11 | webmind | that's confusing :) |
| 23:34:14 | uski85145 | yea right lol |
| 23:34:31 | uski85145 | hmmm i'd like to phone archos |
| 23:34:32 | * | webmind has a player which is not a recorder |
| 23:34:39 | uski85145 | "i wnna buy a main board for my archos recorder 20" |
| 23:34:44 | webmind | hehe |
| 23:34:51 | uski85145 | just to see how they'll react |
| 23:34:56 | webmind | try it |
| 23:35:13 | uski85145 | they will surely tell me, like a stupid robot would do, "send it back and we will exchange it" |
| 23:35:21 | uski85145 | whatever i say, they'll answer that |
| 23:35:34 | uski85145 | i'll say |
| 23:36:50 | uski85145 | maybe i'll buy/make a yammp7 |
| 23:36:58 | uski85145 | at least it's opensource |
| 23:37:05 | uski85145 | but there is only 16kB for the firmware |
| 23:37:22 | webmind | they might be nice |
| 23:37:25 | BlueChip | that's the real solution - those of us who can pull together and make our own unit |
| 23:37:29 | webmind | just don't call the helpdesk |
| 23:37:40 | uski85145 | :) |
| 23:37:58 | uski85145 | i think an even better solution would be to reengineer an unit like the recorders |
| 23:38:06 | uski85145 | i.e. with a real CPU, some _external_ flash and ram |
| 23:38:22 | uski85145 | sth like 1mbyte of flash and 16mbytes of dram or so ;) |
| 23:38:37 | webmind | would be bigger though |
| 23:38:57 | BlueChip | 1mb of flash - cool - you could write really bloaty crap firmware with that much rom |
| 23:39:17 | webmind | and you don't want that |
| 23:39:25 | webmind | you want to get efficient stuff |
| 23:39:31 | webmind | efficiency is good |
| 23:39:31 | webmind | :) |
| 23:39:40 | midk | 512kb of flash may be good. |
| 23:39:45 | midk | well actually |
| 23:39:49 | midk | withhout the archos fw |
| 23:39:52 | midk | 256kb would even do |
| 23:39:57 | | Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9FF8274.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:40:05 | uski85145 | it would be easy to replace the 020 chip with a 040 onje |
| 23:40:08 | uski85145 | giving 512kb of flash |
| 23:40:11 | uski85145 | idc !!! |
| 23:40:12 | uski85145 | my hero |
| 23:40:24 | [IDC]Dragon | oops |
| 23:40:28 | uski85145 | do u have an idea of what may be failing ? everything from the flash reads 00 |
| 23:40:30 | webmind | [IDC]Dragon, run! while you still can! |
| 23:40:31 | webmind | :) |
| 23:40:33 | uski85145 | lool |
| 23:40:43 | * | [IDC]Dragon still reads the log |
| 23:40:49 | uski85145 | Downloading monitor done. |
| 23:40:49 | uski85145 | Manufacturer ID = 0x00, Device ID = 0x00 |
| 23:41:03 | uski85145 | then you'll see me swearing against archos |
| 23:41:14 | [IDC]Dragon | it wasn't Archos |
| 23:41:31 | [IDC]Dragon | this man/ID looks no good |
| 23:41:50 | uski85145 | really ? ;) |
| 23:42:05 | uski85145 | and the flash dump is full of 0x00 |
| 23:42:24 | webmind | looks empty ? |
| 23:42:26 | webmind | :) |
| 23:42:27 | uski85145 | i tried exchanging the chip with a new SST39 with no luck |
| 23:42:30 | uski85145 | yea |
| 23:42:36 | uski85145 | maybe it does not program it properly |
| 23:42:42 | uski85145 | it's a -70 version, maybe that counts ? |
| 23:42:43 | [IDC]Dragon | either you picked the wrong chip, or the soldering is no ggod |
| 23:42:56 | [IDC]Dragon | -70 is fine |
| 23:42:56 | uski85145 | then the soldering is no good :\ |
| 23:43:01 | [IDC]Dragon | I have that, too |
| 23:43:04 | uski85145 | ok |
| 23:43:12 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe the chip is fried? |
| 23:43:12 | uski85145 | i added my small switch |
| 23:43:15 | uski85145 | i think i'll need it |
| 23:43:18 | uski85145 | i tried with another one |
| 23:43:20 | uski85145 | and it's the same |
| 23:43:24 | uski85145 | i won't try 20 chips lol |
| 23:43:31 | uski85145 | i think the problem is not this |
| 23:43:41 | [IDC]Dragon | I wonder how your PCB is still alive |
| 23:43:48 | uski85145 | hot air dude, hot air |
| 23:44:05 | [IDC]Dragon | hot air hars everything around |
| 23:44:10 | uski85145 | nah |
| 23:44:10 | [IDC]Dragon | hams |
| 23:44:13 | uski85145 | not with a correct nozzel |
| 23:44:21 | [IDC]Dragon | harms, grr |
| 23:44:39 | [IDC]Dragon | well then |
| 23:44:54 | [IDC]Dragon | did you solder it upside down or so? |
| 23:44:54 | uski85145 | i really can't find the problem |
| 23:45:02 | uski85145 | no |
| 23:45:15 | uski85145 | the pin 1 is at the opposite side from the connector |
| 23:45:20 | uski85145 | i checked on picts from your website, it's ok |
| 23:45:30 | [IDC]Dragon | content 0x00 is strange |
| 23:45:34 | uski85145 | also on picts from rockbox website and it's ok too |
| 23:45:37 | uski85145 | yes |
| 23:45:41 | [IDC]Dragon | erased it would be FF |
| 23:45:44 | uski85145 | 0xFF would have been more logical |
| 23:45:46 | uski85145 | yea |
| 23:45:55 | uski85145 | it's like a communication problem |
| 23:46:00 | uski85145 | between the flash and the cpu |
| 23:46:01 | [IDC]Dragon | and the IDs have to come out |
| 23:46:13 | uski85145 | perhaps some latch is fried ? |
| 23:46:26 | [IDC]Dragon | there's none |
| 23:46:28 | uski85145 | i don't have the schemlatics so i can't tell but it's full of 74xx245/373 or so |
| 23:46:35 | [IDC]Dragon | you can check the chip select |
| 23:46:43 | uski85145 | i have to find it first :) |
| 23:46:55 | [IDC]Dragon | from the schematics |
| 23:47:08 | uski85145 | SST39VF020: http://www.sst.com/downloads/datasheet/S71150.pdf |
| 23:47:25 | [IDC]Dragon | I mean the Archos schematics |
| 23:47:32 | uski85145 | yea |
| 23:47:45 | uski85145 | butn what to check ? |
| 23:47:54 | uski85145 | with an oscilloscope, if it goes up/down? |
| 23:48:07 | [IDC]Dragon | read the flash via uart, measure the CS pin |
| 23:48:40 | [IDC]Dragon | to comfort you, you can download Rockbox via uart, if you like |
| 23:49:30 | uski85145 | i tried |
| 23:49:33 | uski85145 | but i didn't succeed |
| 23:49:37 | uski85145 | but i'd like to try again |
| 23:49:39 | uski85145 | how to do it ? |
| 23:49:50 | [IDC]Dragon | use rockbox.bin |
| 23:49:56 | uski85145 | ok, where to find it ? |
| 23:50:09 | [IDC]Dragon | it gets build when you compile |
| 23:50:40 | [IDC]Dragon | before being scrambled into ajbrec.ajz |
| 23:50:56 | [IDC]Dragon | or you unscramble that to get it back |
| 23:51:27 | uski85145 | i'll do that |
| 23:52:03 | uski85145 | just have to find the descramble.exe |
| 23:52:13 | [IDC]Dragon | Dunno if if will fully work, because it will read a mask value of 0x0000 from your flash |
| 23:52:25 | [IDC]Dragon | if it |
| 23:52:53 | uski85145 | i just wanna try |
| 23:54:47 | uski85145 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/tools/descramble.exe |
| 23:54:48 | uski85145 | :) |
| 23:54:55 | webmind | nite |
| 23:55:29 | uski85145 | nite |
| 23:55:47 | uski85145 | hmmm |
| 23:55:51 | uski85145 | "starting program done" |
| 23:55:54 | uski85145 | but i don't see anything |
| 23:55:56 | uski85145 | blah |
| 23:56:35 | uski85145 | (i use -exec right ?) |
| 23:57:15 | uski85145 | ok, doesn't work |
| 23:57:20 | uski85145 | im a bit tired with that |
| 23:57:40 | uski85145 | i think i'll put back my original sst37 |
| 23:57:41 | webmind | get some sleep ? |
| 23:57:58 | uski85145 | won't help much with that annoying flash chip |
| 23:58:14 | uski85145 | i hope i didn't fry sth |
| 23:58:20 | uski85145 | if i did i can't return it for warranty lol |
| 23:58:22 | uski85145 | too muc modded |
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