00:00:02 | amiconn | ...LANG_FM_BUTTONBAR_PRESETS |
00:00:22 | [IDC]Dragon | dunno how those got it |
00:00:31 | amiconn | I'll remove 'em |
00:00:43 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks |
00:01:05 | [IDC]Dragon | uski: I can add some stuff, but not tonight |
00:01:11 | [IDC]Dragon | cu |
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00:23:48 | Christi-S | Hi Linus. Am I right in thinking that the wake on alarm and RTC wakeup code are two essentially different things? |
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00:24:28 | uski | wake on alarm = a feature |
00:24:37 | uski | RTC wake up code = low level thiny |
00:24:37 | uski | but |
00:24:50 | uski | it's related (i think =)) |
00:25:37 | Christi-S | I *think* the code is more or less distinct. But I'm thinking about having a go at implementing timed radio recording and wondering what the best approach would be. |
00:26:34 | uski | hmmm |
00:26:40 | uski | you can't rely on the RTC interrupt |
00:27:00 | uski | because there is a mod that disconnects it from the CPU and connects it to the on button |
00:27:18 | uski | maybe you can add some hook in the code that updates the display of the hour on the screen ? |
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00:28:13 | * | Christi-S nods. But for the FMR, going down the wake on alarm route might work if they're different enough. |
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00:30:03 | LinusN | my thinking is this: |
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00:30:43 | LinusN | we constantly check the current time against the next "event" |
00:30:51 | LinusN | every minute or so |
00:31:03 | LinusN | kind of a "soft alarm" |
00:31:22 | uski | ok |
00:31:28 | uski | that's approximately what i suggested to implement |
00:31:32 | LinusN | we could use the RTC alarm for that |
00:31:51 | uski | using the interrupt ? remember of the auto power-on mod |
00:32:00 | LinusN | we set the alarm and check the RTC alarm bit if it has triggered |
00:32:10 | LinusN | there is no RTC interrupt |
00:32:27 | uski | i thought there was one |
00:32:28 | uski | ok |
00:32:55 | LinusN | the nice thing about using the RTC alarm is that the recorder will wake up if it is an FM/V2 or has the alarm mod |
00:33:23 | Christi-S | Do you have to turn the JB off once the alarm is set? |
00:33:30 | LinusN | no |
00:34:01 | LinusN | however, it is hard to turn off the recorder if the alarm has triggered |
00:34:11 | Christi-S | That's good (although having to interrupt playback to start recording might get confusing/. |
00:34:16 | LinusN | so we must be careful to clear the alarm once it has triggered |
00:34:24 | * | Christi-S nods. |
00:34:38 | amiconn | Voice files rebuilt. As there were only removed entries, the new files are a bit smaller, but apart from that don't give an additional benefit. |
00:34:47 | LinusN | amiconn: good |
00:35:16 | Christi-S | Never mind, there'll be a new entry soon if the progress bar patch makes it in. ;) |
00:35:19 | amiconn | I'll upload them anyway (no problem with a flatrate :) ) |
00:35:36 | * | LinusN checks out the progress bar patch |
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00:38:46 | LinusN | Christi-S: i must say that i'm impressed that you got so many things right in the first patch |
00:39:20 | Christi-S | Thank you. |
00:40:27 | LinusN | one tiny thing: i'll use an ordinary "if" instead of the ?: operator in wps-display.c |
00:41:01 | Christi-S | Fine by me. |
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00:41:06 | LinusN | no point in using ?: since it isn't an rvalue |
00:42:50 | LinusN | i wonder if it would be better to select slider/scrollbar using wps %-options instead? |
00:43:37 | Christi-S | I considered it, but I thought that would actually be more confusing. |
00:43:50 | Christi-S | And you'd never want both. |
00:43:54 | LinusN | probably |
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00:44:37 | LinusN | it's just that the number of options are overwhelming... :-) |
00:45:00 | Christi-S | Might want to put it in the status and scrollbar submenu instead of directly in display. |
00:45:07 | Christi-S | I know what you mean. |
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00:46:13 | amiconn | LinusN: I saw that you did put the yes/no directly behind the Force mono: menu entry in the fm preset menu. I think thins is more straightforward than in all other menus... |
00:46:30 | Christi-S | There has to be a way to reduce the confusion somehow. |
00:46:58 | amiconn | *this |
00:47:59 | LinusN | amiconn: yes, but it may make it harder for long entries |
00:49:00 | Christi-S | Possibly you could move some of the less common config options to an "advanced settings menu" or better still, hide them unless the user selects "show advanced settings". |
00:49:11 | amiconn | Not if the right part of the screen (containing the selected value) would stay while only the left part would scroll for long options. |
00:49:55 | LinusN | amiconn: that works if the font is small, and the "yes/no" is short |
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00:50:19 | Christi-S | Would be nasty on some of the high visibility setups. |
00:50:22 | LinusN | for boolean options, i'd go for mattz's checkbox |
00:50:24 | amiconn | This "tabular" approach would save space if mattzz' checkbox would be used... |
00:50:30 | LinusN | :-) |
00:50:35 | amiconn | :-) |
00:50:52 | LinusN | however, for enums, it is a little trickier |
00:51:14 | amiconn | How about that: |
00:51:37 | amiconn | (1) All options are displayed across the whole length of the line, except |
00:51:57 | amiconn | (2) The current line uses the "split" approach |
00:52:58 | * | LinusN is waiting for (3) |
00:53:51 | amiconn | For enums with long value names, this could still be tricky though... |
00:54:17 | Christi-S | how about sacrificing one line as a status line indicating the value of the selected option? |
00:54:23 | LinusN | i'm concerned about the "channel configuration: karaoke" setting (for example) |
00:55:07 | amiconn | I'd say the enum type settings should stick with the current system, using a separate screen. |
00:55:11 | Christi-S | Oh, that's something I've always wondered, what the hell is the difference between stereo, stereo wide, and stereo narrow. |
00:55:29 | amiconn | In the right column this could be indicated with a ">" symbol |
00:56:25 | LinusN | amiconn: i still want all settings on the same screen... |
00:56:37 | Christi-S | Popup on hover is another possibility. |
00:56:37 | amiconn | Imho this would be slightly more intuitive if this "value screen" would rather be something like an overlay window |
00:58:11 | LinusN | one option is to always use 2 lines per setting |
00:58:33 | LinusN | first line is the name, and second line is value/enum/slider |
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01:04:01 | amiconn | LinusN: 2 lines per setting wouldn't look too intuitive imho |
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01:04:58 | LinusN | i know, one line would be nicer, but i want to be able to see the settings without entering another screen |
01:06:02 | amiconn | I just had a look at the settings menu of my cellphone; their approach is indeed similar to the current Rockbox menus |
01:06:44 | amiconn | ... with the difference that the "value screen" shows the whole list of possible values for enum type settings along with radio buttons. |
01:08:28 | amiconn | ..even for boolean settings. |
01:09:29 | amiconn | There are some boolean settings that use a checkbox though |
01:14:17 | amiconn | There is a nice feature that rockbox does not yet have (can be disabled): If you stay a bit on a particular setting, a help windows pops up. |
01:16:23 | amiconn | ..and finally, it has context menus, and the context menu button calls a user configurable menu when used from the topmost level |
01:17:16 | Christi-S | Not easy to implement with variable screen size. |
01:18:37 | amiconn | Christi-S: Why? All of those menus can be scrolled/ scroll automatically (help text) if they don't fit on the screen. |
01:19:19 | Christi-S | Suppose so. Not sure it wouldn't be a bit confusing though. |
01:19:40 | amiconn | Of course, the whole value list would be not so helpful with only 2 lines of text (players). |
01:20:43 | * | corbell comes back |
01:20:47 | corbell | bought a new nimh charger |
01:20:54 | corbell | and some sony ear buds |
01:20:58 | corbell | the weird in canal ones :p |
01:21:15 | corbell | I had a pair a year ago, but the wire fizzled out so I had sound on only one side |
01:21:19 | Christi-S | I had a pair of those. |
01:21:30 | Christi-S | I hated them. Really quiet and they never stayed in. |
01:21:32 | corbell | I've got about 6 different little noise making headphone things |
01:21:35 | corbell | heh |
01:21:37 | corbell | I'm already half deaf |
01:21:41 | corbell | I'm trying to preserve my hearing |
01:21:57 | corbell | these things have good isolation |
01:22:01 | corbell | and my mp3 player has a good amp |
01:22:23 | * | Christi-S used it with a Studio 20, which didn't. |
01:22:28 | corbell | Yeah, I remember |
01:22:29 | corbell | I had one :) |
01:22:32 | corbell | Then I had a recorder FM |
01:22:40 | corbell | then I had a rio karma |
01:22:53 | corbell | now I have a creative nomad jukebox zen xtra |
01:23:09 | Christi-S | I almost got one of those - then I discovered Rockbox. |
01:23:22 | Christi-S | And since the JBFM did everything I wanted ... |
01:23:41 | corbell | yeah |
01:23:47 | corbell | my jbfm is in bad shape |
01:24:14 | corbell | I bought the nomad as a final hope |
01:24:19 | corbell | the thing is reliable as all heck |
01:24:23 | corbell | I tend to break anything I own |
01:24:33 | corbell | the belt clip and hard case are nice. |
01:24:51 | corbell | I hate the UI |
01:25:02 | corbell | the rockbox UI is far superior |
01:25:08 | corbell | but I do make good use of the database aspect of this thing |
01:25:10 | corbell | i.e. genres and all that |
01:25:27 | corbell | the sound really is great on this one, though |
01:25:36 | corbell | I didn't even think about it when I bought it, but it has a lot of neat features. |
01:25:41 | corbell | EAX bullcrap :) |
01:26:48 | * | Christi-S nods. |
01:27:31 | corbell | battery life is a problem |
01:27:42 | corbell | but I have an external 8 AA battery pack |
01:27:48 | corbell | which alleviates that problem. |
01:28:21 | Christi-S | Kind of screws the portability aspect though. |
01:28:31 | corbell | I'm used to uh, carrying stuff on me :p |
01:28:48 | corbell | the battery pack is rather compact regardless |
01:29:07 | Christi-S | Well, that's what handbags are for, but I did being able to slip the JBR into a jeans pocket. |
01:30:07 | corbell | I attach things to my belt |
01:31:36 | Christi-S | Anyway, I think I'll head off to bed. |
01:32:11 | corbell | starcraft time here. |
01:32:28 | Christi-S | night |
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01:33:14 | amiconn | I'll follow that example. Night. |
01:33:22 | corbell | I'm kind of tired myself |
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03:27:38 | Gazel | hi |
03:51:16 | Gazel | does anyone have any idea of how to repair the little usb female plug of my archos fm recorder ? the inner plastic part is broken :( |
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05:14:58 | dstar5 | midk2k3: hi |
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05:23:42 | dstar5 | hi Strath |
05:24:51 | Strath | hello :) |
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06:58:31 | adi|home | linus! |
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07:02:14 | LinusN | hi |
07:03:14 | dstar5 | hey LinusN |
07:03:21 | dstar5 | good morning! |
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07:15:58 | gorz125 | hi foljs |
07:16:01 | gorz125 | hi folks |
07:16:10 | gorz125 | anyone have an iriver |
07:16:32 | BC | ...lol - here's a question ...what is the maximum value for contrast? |
07:16:43 | BC | gorz125: not me |
07:17:59 | LinusN | gorz125: me neither |
07:18:04 | LinusN | BC: 64 |
07:18:11 | BC | cheers :) |
07:18:16 | LinusN | or 32, it depends |
07:18:32 | gorz125 | Here's my question: for the iriver community to do what rockbox has done, does this require any cooperation from iriver itself? |
07:18:54 | gorz125 | did archos cooperate at all with rockbox? |
07:19:13 | LinusN | not at all |
07:19:33 | gorz125 | it was all ground up guessing from the hardware? |
07:19:34 | LinusN | BC: the player contrast is 0-31, recorder is 0-63 |
07:19:51 | LinusN | gorz125: yes, plus a tiny bit of disassembling the firmware |
07:19:57 | BC | thanks ...went to check on the unit, and of course you can;t read it off - LOL |
07:20:03 | gorz125 | is disassembling legal? |
07:20:16 | LinusN | gorz125: where i live, yes |
07:20:25 | gorz125 | (firmware, not hardware) |
07:20:32 | gorz125 | in USA? |
07:21:02 | LinusN | i believe so, if there are no mechanisms that tries to prevent you from doing it |
07:21:14 | LinusN | like an encryption or the like |
07:21:20 | LinusN | IANAL of course |
07:21:51 | LinusN | then it's a matter of DMCA, iirc |
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07:24:05 | dstar5 | ha I ANAL |
07:24:10 | dstar5 | lol |
07:26:59 | gorz125 | are there good freeware programs that you recommend for getting started with a .hex file |
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07:27:28 | gorz125 | to disassmble it and see if it makes any sense |
07:27:34 | dstar5 | gorz125, a hex editor |
07:27:48 | LinusN | gorz125: a coldfire disassembler |
07:27:49 | dstar5 | i like textpad |
07:28:13 | LinusN | (i think iriver has a coldfire cpu) |
07:30:51 | LinusN | gorz125: i believe the iriver firmware is encrypted, isn't it? |
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07:40:15 | gorz125 | LinusN: I wish I even knew how to check if the firmware was encrypted. |
07:40:34 | [IDC]Dragon | gorz125: it is XORed |
07:40:48 | LinusN | gorz125: then i think reverse engineering the iriver is not for you |
07:41:16 | [IDC]Dragon | http://www.iriver.com/community/suggestion_view.asp?function=read&idx=2488 |
07:41:29 | [IDC]Dragon | (I think so, too...) |
07:43:57 | gorz125 | I have lots of programming experience. I'd like to get into this reverse engineering, but kind of don't know where to start. |
07:44:15 | BC | datasheets |
07:44:19 | LinusN | decrypt the firmware and start disassembling |
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07:45:11 | LinusN | pick up your favourite multimeter and your favourite CAD program and start drawing schematics |
07:45:30 | LinusN | read up on the datasheets of all the chips on board |
07:45:48 | LinusN | study the Motorola reference design (if it is a coldfire, that is) |
07:47:53 | midk | hey all |
07:47:54 | midk | LinusN, for? |
07:48:44 | dstar5 | hey midk |
07:48:46 | LinusN | midk: reverse engineering the iriver |
07:54:57 | gorz125 | thanks for the info people |
07:54:58 | gorz125 | later |
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08:59:02 | LinusN | hi Christi-S |
08:59:08 | Christi-S | Heya |
08:59:28 | * | Christi-S is attempting to beat OpenOffice into submission. |
08:59:33 | Christi-S | Bloody manual. :( |
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09:01:29 | * | LinusN is trying to get Christi-S's blood installer to work |
09:02:00 | Christi-S | Urk. Still having problems with wine? |
09:02:27 | LinusN | xvfb-run |
09:02:51 | Christi-S | Right. You need the Xvfb server installed. |
09:03:12 | Christi-S | I have a sneaking suspicion this may require XFree86 4. |
09:03:42 | LinusN | i have Xvfb, but no xvfb-run |
09:03:58 | Christi-S | Weird. Let me have a look at it. |
09:05:05 | LinusN | [ISPP] Undeclared identifier: "AppVersion" |
09:05:43 | Christi-S | Are you running update-dailybuild? |
09:05:55 | LinusN | yes |
09:06:17 | midk | LinusN: sorry to interrupt, I think you may not have gotten my last message: are you really going to port rockbox to the iRiver? |
09:07:36 | Christi-S | xvfbrun is part of the 4.2.1 Xvfb package on Debian. |
09:07:38 | LinusN | midk: no |
09:08:00 | LinusN | midk: we are looking into the iriver hardware |
09:08:00 | midk | oh, what are you doing then? |
09:08:06 | Christi-S | It's actually just a sh wrapper. |
09:08:11 | midk | yes... for what? |
09:08:15 | Christi-S | I can probably mail it to you. |
09:08:18 | LinusN | Christi-S: where should r: point to? |
09:08:26 | Christi-S | Your workdir. |
09:08:33 | LinusN | "workdir"? |
09:08:36 | Christi-S | That needs to be configured in wine. |
09:09:04 | LinusN | yes, but what exactly is a "workdir" in your world? |
09:09:06 | Christi-S | The root of the installer tree. ie one level above src/ and bin/ |
09:09:12 | LinusN | thx |
09:09:44 | Christi-S | You want me to mail you xvfbrun? |
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09:10:28 | LinusN | Successful compile (6.267 sec). Resulting Setup program filename is: |
09:10:29 | LinusN | R:\Rockbox-20040706-install.exe |
09:10:37 | midk | hey zagor |
09:10:38 | Christi-S | Woot! |
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09:10:50 | Christi-S | Argh, I said woot! Kill me now. |
09:11:30 | LinusN | /msg hitmansrv kill Christi-S |
09:11:40 | Christi-S | *laugh* |
09:11:55 | Christi-S | Now that's what I call a fully featured IRC network. |
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09:13:42 | [IDC]Dragon | cu later |
09:13:46 | midk | later idc |
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09:14:53 | amiconn | hi all |
09:15:04 | LinusN | Christi-S: please email me the xvfb-run script, linus at haxx.se |
09:15:08 | LinusN | amiconn: hi |
09:15:18 | LinusN | the installer worked, btw |
09:15:31 | dstar5 | hi ami |
09:16:20 | Christi-S | Cool. I'm glad. As long as the build structure doesn't change it should continue to work just fine. |
09:16:39 | Christi-S | It even detects which plugins are different between recorder models. |
09:16:57 | Christi-S | (firmware_flash and rockbox_flash as it happens at the moment.) |
09:17:22 | Christi-S | Sent, Linus. |
09:25:15 | Christi-S | Aha. OpenOffice duly subdued! |
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09:37:05 | * | corbell wakes up |
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09:41:12 | midk | hey bagder |
09:41:19 | Bagder | hi |
09:41:23 | midk | rebooting.. back in 3-50 minutes :) |
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09:46:07 | corbell | hello again |
09:46:20 | dstar5 | lol |
09:46:55 | midk | hey hey. |
09:50:23 | dstar5 | hi bag |
09:57:24 | amiconn | LinusN: While removing the superfluous voice: entries and syncing deutsch.lang, I found an entry in english.lang that is most probably not used anymore. |
09:57:59 | amiconn | Perhaps it is a good idea to check all entries in english.lang if they are still used? |
09:58:47 | * | dstar5 liks that idea |
09:59:07 | Bagder | there was a cool script posted to the list a while ago that did it |
09:59:22 | * | midk thinks that dstar5 is in agreement for other reasons |
09:59:24 | Bagder | actually, there were two, but my version was quite lame compared to the other |
09:59:48 | amiconn | Bagder: Do you remember the time frame? |
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10:00:07 | Bagder | I'll dig and see... |
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10:03:08 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-01/att-0645/01-lang-obsolete.pl |
10:03:33 | Bagder | Alex Pleiner wrote it |
10:03:41 | amiconn | -> Internal server error :( |
10:03:58 | Bagder | grrr |
10:04:01 | Zagor | me fix |
10:04:06 | Bagder | .pl extension |
10:04:14 | amiconn | Perhaps it tries to execute the script... |
10:04:18 | Bagder | yes |
10:05:51 | corbell | hmm |
10:06:10 | corbell | not that I'm trying to detract from the writing of fine firmware |
10:06:21 | corbell | but does anyone have any mp3s they want to donate to me? :) |
10:07:36 | dstar5 | corbell, i have no high speed or all mymusic atm |
10:12:21 | amiconn | Bagder: On a related topic, the "uplang" script has a big bug - for non-english languages, it replaces all the already-translated voice: entries with their english equivalents :( |
10:12:48 | Bagder | ouch |
10:12:58 | Ctcp | Version from dstar5!lee@AC8414E7.ipt.aol.com |
10:20:33 | amiconn | Bagder: Found both your unusedlangids and the lang-obsolete.pl scripts in the archive, but can't download the latter... |
10:21:35 | Bagder | amiconn: Zagor is working on the server setup to fix it |
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10:23:45 | * | Zagor is very confused why his .htaccess magic doesn't work |
10:27:44 | dstar5 | time for me to get a little sleep it 3:27 andi have toget up at 6:00 |
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10:27:48 | dstar5 | bye :) |
10:27:59 | Bagder | nighty nighty dstar5 |
10:28:04 | midk | seeya. |
10:33:31 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml |
10:34:01 | Bagder | magical |
10:34:24 | LinusN | we'll see tomorrow if the daily build script works... |
10:34:56 | LinusN | the 20040706 installer was added by hand |
10:35:03 | Bagder | how big are those files? maybe we should start adding that info |
10:35:21 | Zagor | cut "EXE" from the description imho |
10:35:25 | Bagder | I agree |
10:35:38 | LinusN | ok |
10:35:40 | amiconn | Zagor: your old unusedlangids script is no more reliable :( It outputs some langids that are definitely still used. For the VOICE_ entries which are used by index, this is obvious, but for some others I don't understand why this is... |
10:35:49 | LinusN | the exe file is 872544 bytes :-) |
10:35:55 | amiconn | Erm, this was directed to Bagder |
10:36:33 | Bagder | amiconn: I'm on vacation now, don't expect me to do much |
10:40:41 | amiconn | If someone wants to have a look at the full list (the script runs for several minutes): http://arnold-j.bei.t-online.de/Rockbox/unusedlangids-output-20040706 |
10:41:07 | amiconn | Of course this does also contain those langids which are already marked as deprecated. |
10:41:29 | midk | nite everyone. must sleep now. |
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10:41:36 | amiconn | nite midk |
10:42:26 | Bagder | here's that other script: http://rockbox.haxx.se/lang-obsolete.txt |
10:42:51 | LinusN | http://arnold-j.bei.t-online.de/Rockbox/unusedlangids-output-20040706 gives me a 404 |
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10:43:52 | amiconn | LinusN: Just wait some minutes (I shouldn't have posteed the link that fast) - the T-Online upload server is sometimes slow with syncing to the web server :/ |
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10:44:07 | LinusN | amiconn: ok |
10:44:15 | amiconn | LinusN: Now it is there |
10:47:45 | amiconn | Bagder: Thanks (But the first line should start with #! , not only # ) |
10:48:06 | Bagder | yeps |
10:48:15 | Bagder | I only extracted that old attachment |
10:48:31 | LinusN | silly of me to forget to remove LANG_FM_BUTTONBAR_EDIT |
10:51:22 | amiconn | LinusN: This is the one I thought that it is actually used... |
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10:52:10 | amiconn | The lang-obsolete.pl script does not output any of the VOICE_ langids |
10:53:28 | LinusN | why should it? |
10:53:48 | amiconn | I thought so because you just added it yesterday |
10:54:09 | LinusN | i mean the voice id:s |
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10:55:19 | amiconn | LinusN: Perhaps because the VOICE_ ids are similar to LANG_ ids (only that they are voice only, and to complicate it a bit they are sometimes used by index) |
10:57:47 | LinusN | ah, so it's complicated to find unused voice id:s |
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11:09:51 | amiconn | My suggestion to that: The voice id's that are used by index always cover fixed ranges (0..19, A..Z etc.). So if all VOICE_xx strings within that range are put into a comment near the function that uses them, they wouldn't longer be detected as unused |
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12:15:40 | hernest | ca we edit file in txt? |
12:15:58 | hernest | del a line? |
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12:27:09 | LinusN | hernest: in rockbox? no |
12:34:41 | amiconn | back. |
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12:47:39 | Christi-S | Linus - thanks for sorting the installer - gave me a warm fuzzy feeling to see it up on the site. ;) |
12:48:07 | LinusN | thank *you* for your work on it |
12:48:14 | Christi-S | (You know there's an installer for vanilla 2.2 sitting on my website, right?) |
12:48:26 | LinusN | we have yet to see if the automatic build works tomorrow :-) |
12:48:46 | LinusN | Christi-S: i know |
12:48:48 | Christi-S | You're welcome. Thank my obsessive anal retentive hacker streak. ;) |
12:49:25 | Christi-S | I'm bashing away at the manual now so we can do a 2.3 release. |
12:50:05 | Christi-S | I look forward to seeing it work. ;) |
12:51:53 | amiconn | I hope to find some time to implement a screendump function for grayscale these days |
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13:27:23 | hernest | can we pu a file in playlist when play |
13:31:27 | LinusN | yes |
13:31:30 | Zagor | hernest: yes, hold ON and press PLAY on the file, then choose "playlist" and "insert" |
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14:23:38 | Christi-S | Right - I'm finally getting this manual into some sort of shape I'm happy with. |
14:24:30 | LinusN | ...just as i commit 6 new sound parameters :-) |
14:29:29 | Christi-S | Ah, don't worry - not got as far as configuration yet. |
14:29:52 | Christi-S | Mostly I've been re-organising so things start simple and get more complex. |
14:30:09 | Christi-S | Which involved adding a Getting Started section at the beginning. |
14:30:45 | Christi-S | Actually I should pull down the latest source and build simulators so I can do screenshots. |
14:33:27 | LinusN | you don't need the simulator do do screenshots of the recorder |
14:33:51 | LinusN | player screenshots still need the simulator |
14:35:46 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/ScreenDump |
14:35:58 | Christi-S | True, but it's less faff to do Screendumps from the simulator. |
14:36:38 | LinusN | i have made it easier even on the simulator, read the wiki page |
14:37:40 | * | Christi-S nods. Already have done. ;) |
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14:39:21 | Christi-S | What's the module name for the simulator? |
14:39:21 | LinusN | some things aren't visible in the simulator, like the recorder sound parameters |
14:39:21 | LinusN | uisimulator |
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14:39:42 | Christi-S | I'll do them on the JBFM. |
14:39:49 | Christi-S | Player users will lose out, but there's not much I can do, not having a player. |
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14:40:44 | LinusN | i suggest you do the dumps the Wiki way, for consistency |
14:41:22 | midk | YAY, i can now code the countdown feature |
14:41:53 | midk | at 5:41am. |
14:41:53 | Christi-S | I'm intending to. Makes life much easier. |
14:42:14 | NHeal | bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
14:42:14 | NJoin | adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-3.216-194-7-209.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
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14:43:17 | Christi-S | Hmm - not good. When compiling the UI sim FM build: |
14:43:20 | Christi-S | nfig': |
14:43:20 | Christi-S | ence to `_settings_parseline' |
14:43:20 | Christi-S | reference to `_settings_parseline' |
14:43:32 | Christi-S | That didn't really work, did it? |
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14:44:04 | LinusN | have you updated the other modules too? |
14:44:18 | Christi-S | Just rockbox. Is there something else I need? |
14:44:32 | LinusN | no |
14:44:39 | LinusN | make clean |
14:46:55 | Christi-S | Seems to have fixed it. |
14:46:57 | Christi-S | Ta. |
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15:01:02 | Zagor | the av400 has a keyboard port! |
15:01:12 | Zagor | http://www6.tomshardware.com/mobile/20040706/archos-04.html |
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15:01:45 | midk | what? |
15:01:53 | midk | ooh what |
15:02:00 | midk | oooh |
15:02:30 | Zagor | and an internal speaker |
15:02:44 | Zagor | and a cf slot |
15:02:55 | Zagor | looks like sweet hardware, as usual :) |
15:03:07 | LinusN | it doesn't say what type of k/b though |
15:03:12 | midk | wow. wtf. i want one. |
15:03:21 | midk | it uses a 1/8" jack obviously |
15:03:26 | midk | archos proprietary again. |
15:03:46 | Zagor | yeah |
15:04:14 | Zagor | it appears to be a beefed up dsp from the av300 series. it can play much larger movies. |
15:04:22 | midk | oh |
15:04:23 | midk | like |
15:04:26 | midk | 720x480 30fps? |
15:04:30 | midk | please say yes. |
15:04:43 | Zagor | 704x480 says the review |
15:04:55 | LinusN | the av400 really looks like something i may want |
15:05:27 | Zagor | heck, I'm almost a collector by now :) |
15:05:27 | midk | i can get my av300 swapped out for it should you ever hack it. |
15:05:38 | midk | no, i'll swap it asap. |
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15:06:00 | midk | i like having large, smooth playback - watchable on TV.. yes. |
15:07:30 | midk | that looks really cool actually |
15:07:39 | Zagor | otoh I have never really felt much need for carrying films around. it's not the same thing as music. |
15:08:51 | midk | well you can carry around a few dvd-quality videos.. |
15:09:36 | LinusN | time to go, cu folx |
15:09:49 | midk | seeya linux |
15:09:51 | midk | GAH |
15:09:51 | Zagor | yes, but films are captive entertainment in two-hour chunks. music is background entertainment i 5-minute chunks. |
15:09:53 | midk | linusn |
15:09:55 | midk | i always do that. |
15:10:04 | LinusN | me too :-) |
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15:10:12 | midk | i watch films once in a while.. it's sort of fun. try it. |
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15:10:41 | Christi-S | Damn - the sim doesn't seem able to dump the splash screen. |
15:10:49 | Zagor | midk: yeah me too. but I watch them at home in my sofa or in the cinema. not out on the town. |
15:11:05 | Zagor | i'm not sure i feel a great desire to view films "on the go". |
15:11:14 | Zagor | call me conservative :) |
15:11:16 | midk | true.. that's what it's good for really... on the sofa or just sitting around |
15:11:26 | midk | viewing films while you drive might be fun. |
15:11:36 | midk | go try it and tell me the results if you still walk this earth |
15:11:43 | midk | and are not a ghost to come and haunt me |
15:11:43 | midk | okay? |
15:11:44 | Zagor | midk: at home I already have a computer connected for playing divx films |
15:12:20 | midk | well...................... the av400 does that in a package 1/50th the size and complexity |
15:12:26 | midk | that is, combining size and complexity. |
15:12:45 | midk | their remote thing, is uglu |
15:12:53 | midk | ugly* - that's all i have to say about it |
15:13:35 | Christi-S | Oh that reminds me - the Archos remote doesn't work with the FM recorder supposedly. Is that also true for Rockbox running on the FM? |
15:14:03 | midk | haha - it looks like they attempted to make it look classy and stylish and it ended up being an odd color and tacky at the same time :) |
15:14:06 | midk | http://www6.tomshardware.com/mobile/20040706/images/archosav400-14.jpg |
15:14:13 | midk | Christi-S, fm incompatible |
15:14:23 | midk | no way to fix it really.. unless maybe you solder in a new headphone jack |
15:14:30 | Christi-S | Thought that might be the case. Shame. |
15:14:45 | midk | yeah... i wouldn't have minded an FM remote when i had my FM |
15:28:28 | * | Christi-S swears profusely at OpenOffice and the Windows UI sim. |
15:29:28 | midk | sucky, and suckier. :) |
15:29:49 | midk | what's the problem? |
15:29:59 | Christi-S | I noticed. |
15:30:00 | midk | i have vast technical noledge |
15:30:28 | Christi-S | Bet you still can't explain why all the images have disappeared from my copy of the manual. |
15:30:30 | midk | anything you need, i can fix. unless it involves.. like.. fixing anything |
15:30:42 | midk | yes i can! |
15:30:47 | midk | here's the answer: openoffice sucks and it discarded them |
15:30:48 | midk | AHAHHA |
15:30:54 | midk | that's $5 please. |
15:31:16 | Christi-S | Come here and collect it. I have a little something extra for you., |
15:31:33 | midk | um |
15:31:36 | midk | paypal is fine, thanks. |
15:31:55 | midk | on second thought.. keep the cash. |
15:32:40 | Christi-S | Smart man. ;) |
15:33:06 | elinenbe | http://www.imp3.net/mp3player/iriver/h300/index.html |
15:33:08 | midk | haha. :) |
15:33:14 | midk | hey elinenbe |
15:33:20 | elinenbe | hi |
15:33:53 | midk | yes, looks sort of, um. sweet? |
15:34:00 | midk | iriver in general appears to be ahead of the game |
15:34:23 | midk | niice pictures. |
15:34:25 | amiconn | Christi-S: If you want a screenshot of the splash screen & the sim isn't able to do that, I'd try to increase the splash screen timeout (to a minute or so), recompile the sim and use an arbitrary Windows screenshot program. |
15:34:48 | midk | try going to version and when the logo shows press "0" |
15:35:00 | Zagor | except i agree with [idc]dragon's comment about colour screens. it's very annoying that they are completely black unless the backlight is on. |
15:35:33 | Christi-S | Well, I'd really need a screenshot of the release anyway, and since the release won't happen until the manual is done ... |
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15:35:53 | midk | zagor: then i am sure the backlights are meant to be on 24/7 |
15:36:30 | midk | the real point of a backlight adjustment on a color screen is for music playing - ie, shut off backlight after 30s of idle so you can hear the music but not waste battery |
15:36:41 | midk | but backlight stays on during videos because you need to see the lcd for that. |
15:38:27 | midk | okay, is this allowed as far as declaring variables in the middle of code goes? |
15:38:28 | midk | void counter_screen(void) |
15:38:28 | midk | { |
15:38:28 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midk |
15:38:28 | midk | int cursorpos = 0; |
15:38:28 | midk | char target_time[15]; |
15:38:28 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
15:38:28 | midk | done = false; |
15:38:34 | midk | then onto the code.. |
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15:54:15 | amiconn | midk: Although I would avoid declaring variables in the middle of code - if "done" is declared elsewhere, this looks like valid code. |
15:54:37 | midk | yes, it is declared elsewhere |
15:54:42 | midk | just have to ensure it is false. |
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15:58:27 | midk | omgz YAY |
15:58:30 | midk | MDB! |
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16:10:14 | Christi-S | Ah bollocks. I have reached my tolerance with OpenOffice. That's enough for today. |
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16:24:11 | midk | yo scott. |
16:24:23 | scott666 | hye |
16:24:35 | scott666 | did your clock get added yet? |
16:24:38 | Zagor | Christi-S: open office is not a requirement. if you prefer something else, use that instead |
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16:25:15 | midk | scott.. yes... |
16:25:18 | midk | coding on it right now |
16:25:20 | Christi-S | Well, I can't help but feel that Word would be just as bad. And it's probably best to keep everything changeable with free tools too. |
16:25:42 | Zagor | yes |
16:25:52 | midk | Christi-S, did you consider adobe reader? that's what it was intended for. |
16:26:21 | Christi-S | AFAIK you can't write for Adobe Reader. PDF is just a format you convert to when you're done. |
16:26:48 | Zagor | yeah. you can write in postscript though ;) |
16:27:14 | Christi-S | Gee, thanks. |
16:27:20 | Zagor | hehe |
16:27:29 | Christi-S | My sister does that from time to time, but she's weird. |
16:28:00 | Zagor | some people like tex for writing books/manuals, but I have never tried it myself |
16:28:34 | Christi-S | It'd probably be better than OO, but given that the manual's already in OO, it'd be a lot more work to start again. |
16:29:48 | midk | sorry to interrupt... sysfixed font's character width is 5? |
16:29:56 | midk | or |
16:29:58 | midk | 6.. |
16:30:00 | midk | 6 right> |
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17:25:36 | midk | hour. |
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19:03:45 | uski | hi all |
19:03:47 | uski | is there a native US english speaker out there ? |
19:03:59 | midk | meee |
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19:28:27 | chixofnix | hey is anyone around? |
19:28:39 | BC | hi |
19:28:46 | midk | bcbc |
19:28:48 | midk | BCBC |
19:28:52 | midk | BESEBESEE!!! |
19:29:02 | midk | haha |
19:29:04 | chixofnix | hiya |
19:29:11 | midk | yo. |
19:29:20 | chixofnix | hey i wanted to see if anyone could throw an opinion at me |
19:29:39 | chixofnix | ... see i spilled some hot espresso on my jukebox recorder |
19:29:52 | chixofnix | ... and while it's got this great coffee=smell now... |
19:29:52 | midk | aww. |
19:29:59 | midk | mmm |
19:29:59 | chixofnix | it doesn't work anymore -) |
19:29:59 | BC | lol |
19:30:02 | chixofnix | hehe |
19:30:03 | midk | aww |
19:30:07 | chixofnix | so.,... |
19:30:17 | BC | you want some guesses on getting it back to life? |
19:30:19 | chixofnix | i'm thinking of getting a new mp3 player |
19:30:24 | BC | ah! |
19:30:42 | chixofnix | oh and whether i can salvage anything to "enhance" a new jukebox, if possible |
19:30:48 | midk | try the rio karma is good.. |
19:30:52 | chixofnix | cool |
19:30:58 | midk | very good. |
19:31:05 | midk | seeya ijn a bit |
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19:31:38 | chixofnix | hm |
19:31:39 | BC | if it were me, I would rip the thing apart, clean it, and hope |
19:32:10 | chixofnix | yea that's on my list for sure... gotta find the time after this exam i got tommorrow morining i guess |
19:32:17 | BC | but you've likely powered it up a few times since making it wet - and that's never good :( |
19:32:21 | chixofnix | get out ma toothbrush and stuff :D |
19:32:27 | chixofnix | well the thing is |
19:32:31 | chixofnix | it wouldn't turn OFF! |
19:32:44 | chixofnix | once it was wet |
19:32:46 | chixofnix | ... |
19:33:04 | chixofnix | i pulled the batteries eventually as the screen flickered in pain at me |
19:33:13 | BC | there is a LOT of debate on the "next platform", I've got a soft spot for the av4000, but who can tell where the future will be |
19:33:31 | BC | if it was still working at all when wet, that holds out promise |
19:33:31 | chixofnix | yea it's a hard call i think |
19:33:43 | chixofnix | hehe |
19:33:46 | chixofnix | we'll see |
19:33:51 | BC | nick some IPA from the chemmy labs |
19:33:51 | chixofnix | i'll give it a good cleaning... |
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19:35:27 | chixofnix | do you think there's any worthwhile component in there worth keeping for something else? (assuming said valuable part is in working order) |
19:36:46 | Strath | it what? :) |
19:36:50 | Strath | er.. in what |
19:37:09 | chixofnix | ... um... in another jukebox recorder?? hehe don't know |
19:37:52 | Strath | i just got here... what device broke that you could use for part |
19:38:36 | BC | oh yes, that a damn good point - gfor god sake don't bin the unit even if it is dead - the worst you could make from it would be a couple of new friends |
19:39:00 | chixofnix | hehe... |
19:39:09 | chixofnix | it's a jukebox recorder... 15gb |
19:39:18 | chixofnix | with a nice espresso smell :D |
19:39:30 | Strath | and what "broke" in it? |
19:39:43 | chixofnix | not sure yet... |
19:40:09 | chixofnix | i assume anything with espresso in it?? actually i do know that the off button isn't responsive |
19:40:16 | chixofnix | but that's all right now |
19:40:25 | chixofnix | still drying ;) |
19:40:46 | Strath | bah, it's just the off button... who uses that |
19:41:14 | chixofnix | hehe... well i'll see what the extent of the damage is in a day... gotta start studying soon.... |
19:41:29 | Strath | good luck :) |
19:41:54 | chixofnix | while i'm still here, does anyone else have a suggestion for a replacement mp3 player, should it come to that? |
19:42:22 | chixofnix | that rio karma is fancy looking, but looks really scratchable... biig clear window... |
19:42:54 | chixofnix | though i'd probably end up scratching whatever i choose... is there anything out there with a glass lcd cover? |
19:44:03 | BC | leave the protective plastci sheet on?? |
19:44:22 | BC | take the perspex to the local glass cutter? |
19:44:30 | chixofnix | hmm |
19:44:32 | chixofnix | that's an idea |
19:44:48 | Strath | until it falls off or you get anoid by it |
19:44:52 | Strath | (sp) |
19:45:03 | BC | toughened glass will shatter |
19:45:07 | chixofnix | my g/f leaves the little protector on hers, but you can barely see what's behind it now... |
19:45:42 | chixofnix | all i know is i desperately don't want an iPod |
19:46:09 | chixofnix | is that a smart thing? |
19:46:29 | Strath | has it been hacked? |
19:46:58 | BC | ipod is awesome, but they dac is unhacked |
19:47:19 | Strath | then yes...don't get one |
19:47:21 | Strath | :) |
19:47:29 | chixofnix | =) |
19:47:31 | chixofnix | so. |
19:47:38 | BC | the cpu is no powerful enough to play mp3 :( |
19:49:48 | chixofnix | i really have grown fond of rockbox as its been growing up though |
19:50:01 | chixofnix | so i might head back around to archos again |
19:50:41 | BC | no guarantee that rockbox will be ported to another archos unit |
19:51:39 | chixofnix | yea i know... might try the Archos Jukebox FM Recorder tho |
19:51:50 | chixofnix | always thought the radio option was a neat idea |
19:52:03 | chixofnix | though i never used the mic on my recorder |
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19:56:59 | corbell | good day |
19:58:49 | chixofnix | hey i gtg now |
19:58:55 | chixofnix | thx for the help fellas |
19:58:58 | chixofnix | =) |
19:59:00 | corbell | who? |
19:59:01 | corbell | bye |
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20:02:22 | corbell | hello. |
20:02:31 | Strath | hiya |
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20:56:38 | corbell | lo |
20:57:05 | midk | yo |
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21:29:07 | corbell | yo |
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21:34:54 | zeekoe | hi, it's me again, wanting to ask you guys their head off about the archos devices :) |
21:35:01 | zeekoe | anyone here? :) |
21:35:16 | corbell | yes |
21:35:46 | zeekoe | cool! :P |
21:35:50 | corbell | indeed. |
21:36:03 | zeekoe | i think i'm going to buy a archos jukebox tomorrow!!! |
21:36:09 | zeekoe | i think it's a recorder |
21:36:12 | corbell | which model? |
21:36:16 | corbell | recorder 20? |
21:36:20 | corbell | or recorder FM? |
21:36:31 | zeekoe | my guess is recorder 20 |
21:36:43 | zeekoe | it has digital in/out and 4 nimh, the guy says |
21:36:59 | corbell | Yeah |
21:37:00 | corbell | Good model. |
21:37:05 | corbell | I want to purchase one myself |
21:37:09 | corbell | but I don't really need one :P |
21:37:19 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
21:37:19 | * | corbell has a Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra, 40 gig |
21:37:32 | corbell | I'm trying to get a replacement part for my old Recorder FM |
21:37:52 | zeekoe | heh |
21:37:54 | zeekoe | ok |
21:37:56 | zeekoe | which part? |
21:38:25 | corbell | the top battery cover |
21:38:29 | corbell | it has the contacts |
21:38:31 | corbell | so it won't work without it |
21:38:50 | zeekoe | hmmz... |
21:38:59 | zeekoe | well, i can repair such things ;) |
21:39:15 | zeekoe | it doesnt look very pretty after that, that's the only problem... |
21:39:25 | zeekoe | w00t... it has USB 2.0!? |
21:39:26 | corbell | it doesn't look pretty right now |
21:39:30 | corbell | yes |
21:39:37 | corbell | the paint and all that is chipped off |
21:39:52 | zeekoe | hmm |
21:40:02 | corbell | I wish I had a decent replacement chassis for it |
21:40:08 | corbell | without the bumpers and all that :P |
21:40:12 | zeekoe | hehe |
21:40:19 | zeekoe | can't you make one yourself? |
21:40:31 | corbell | I'm not a machinist. |
21:40:37 | zeekoe | ok.. |
21:40:59 | zeekoe | do you know of which things i should take special notice when purchasing the recorder? |
21:41:22 | corbell | is it new? |
21:41:28 | zeekoe | nope |
21:41:39 | zeekoe | it's like new |
21:41:40 | zeekoe | :P |
21:41:42 | corbell | have you seen it real life? |
21:41:50 | zeekoe | not yet |
21:41:57 | corbell | well |
21:42:01 | zeekoe | i'm going to take a train tomorrow |
21:42:04 | corbell | buy at your own risk |
21:42:19 | corbell | just look for major scratching |
21:42:20 | zeekoe | it's about 3 hours toward him, and 3 hours back :) |
21:42:22 | zeekoe | ok |
21:42:31 | corbell | and see how easy it is to get the thing to 'die' |
21:42:38 | zeekoe | by pressing it? |
21:42:41 | corbell | i.e. if minor movements can kill it |
21:42:42 | corbell | yeah. |
21:42:44 | zeekoe | ok |
21:42:47 | zeekoe | i'll do that |
21:42:47 | corbell | I had an old studio 20 that did that |
21:42:49 | zeekoe | ok |
21:42:50 | corbell | :P |
21:43:01 | corbell | my nomad is rock steady |
21:43:01 | zeekoe | but it could be easily repaired i heard |
21:43:03 | corbell | the UI sucks |
21:43:05 | corbell | heh |
21:43:08 | zeekoe | ok? |
21:43:17 | corbell | The thing, in the state it is now, could not be 'easily repaired' |
21:43:18 | zeekoe | does it suck when using rockbox? |
21:43:27 | corbell | No, it doesn't *use* rockbox |
21:43:41 | corbell | The thing is pretty much unstoppable, though |
21:43:52 | corbell | I mean, no amount of physical abuse so far has disturbed it |
21:43:54 | zeekoe | hmm... are you talking about your studio 20 which is in a state so it cant be easily repaired? |
21:43:55 | corbell | I've dropped it repeatedly |
21:43:57 | corbell | oh |
21:43:59 | zeekoe | :P |
21:44:00 | corbell | the Studio 20 is dead |
21:44:03 | zeekoe | ok |
21:44:05 | corbell | I've already took it apart |
21:44:09 | zeekoe | hehe |
21:44:14 | corbell | I've got a Recorder FM 20 that is pretty good |
21:44:28 | corbell | Assuming I could find the replacement contact + cover |
21:44:34 | zeekoe | hmm... |
21:44:36 | zeekoe | yep |
21:44:42 | zeekoe | where do you live? |
21:44:55 | corbell | Minnesota. |
21:45:01 | zeekoe | hehe |
21:45:04 | corbell | pretty far from the netherlands :P |
21:45:08 | zeekoe | can't get there easily :P |
21:45:09 | zeekoe | yep |
21:45:21 | zeekoe | how do you know btw? |
21:45:29 | corbell | .nl |
21:45:50 | zeekoe | hmm of course :| |
21:46:39 | corbell | the big thing I like about the creative Nomad is how solid it is. |
21:46:42 | corbell | it was pretty cheap |
21:46:50 | zeekoe | okay |
21:46:53 | corbell | but it's really quite firm |
21:46:55 | zeekoe | but i don't have much money |
21:47:05 | corbell | heh, yeah, how much are you buying the Recorder 20 for? |
21:47:18 | zeekoe | this one costs Eur 200 and that's pretty much the most i can give for an mp3 player |
21:47:25 | corbell | hmm |
21:47:33 | * | corbell paid around 240$ for his |
21:47:43 | corbell | came with a case, and all that |
21:47:45 | zeekoe | ok |
21:47:49 | corbell | The packaged earbuds suck |
21:47:59 | corbell | So I have a few pairs of headphones |
21:48:01 | zeekoe | this one is even with charger+4x2300mAh |
21:48:10 | corbell | the charger is normal ;p |
21:48:19 | corbell | but the batteries are higher capacity than normal |
21:48:20 | zeekoe | hmm... ok |
21:48:35 | zeekoe | i already bought better earphones too |
21:48:38 | corbell | but they could be heavily used |
21:48:44 | zeekoe | could be |
21:48:49 | * | corbell has sony ear canal ear buds |
21:48:51 | zeekoe | well, not really |
21:48:59 | corbell | for travel, and some sennheiser headphones |
21:49:02 | zeekoe | 2300 mAh is about the newest you can get |
21:49:04 | zeekoe | okay |
21:49:13 | zeekoe | i got some phillips earphones |
21:49:21 | zeekoe | philips* |
21:49:34 | corbell | you have broadband? |
21:49:48 | zeekoe | yes :) |
21:49:53 | corbell | give me mp3s |
21:49:53 | corbell | :) |
21:49:57 | zeekoe | like broadband internet? |
21:49:58 | zeekoe | nah |
21:50:00 | zeekoe | :P |
21:50:01 | zeekoe | okay |
21:50:07 | corbell | we could trade. |
21:50:08 | corbell | Trading is good. |
21:50:09 | zeekoe | it's illegal!!! |
21:50:10 | zeekoe | :P |
21:50:12 | corbell | so? |
21:50:13 | corbell | :P |
21:50:20 | zeekoe | how late is it in minnesota? |
21:50:24 | corbell | 3 PM. |
21:50:32 | corbell | In approximately 10 minutes. |
21:50:53 | zeekoe | here it's 21:50 |
21:50:57 | zeekoe | so 9:50 pm |
21:51:13 | corbell | 14:50 |
21:51:13 | corbell | :P |
21:51:42 | corbell | do europeans usually use military notation for time? |
21:51:57 | zeekoe | is that military notation? |
21:52:01 | corbell | yes |
21:52:03 | zeekoe | oka |
21:52:03 | corbell | 24 hour time. |
21:52:04 | zeekoe | y |
21:52:13 | zeekoe | here it's the normal time format |
21:52:21 | corbell | Ironic. |
21:52:34 | corbell | A peaceful country with military time :) |
21:52:50 | zeekoe | :P |
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21:52:55 | corbell | what kind of music do you have? |
21:53:07 | zeekoe | yeah, trying to open a better irc program |
21:53:13 | zeekoe | now irc'ing from opera |
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21:53:19 | zeekoe | it's fine, |
21:53:34 | zeekoe | but cant use advanced irc stuff |
21:53:35 | zeekoe | ha |
21:53:37 | corbell | heh, my nomad is about half of the weight of the archos recorder FM |
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21:53:47 | zeekoe2 | okay... |
21:54:19 | zeekoe2 | well, i dont care about weight that much |
21:54:23 | corbell | heh, Neither do I |
21:54:30 | zeekoe2 | i now have a lennox power 1 mp3-cd player |
21:54:33 | corbell | I have an eight AA external battery pack for it |
21:54:37 | corbell | :p |
21:54:44 | zeekoe2 | payed the equivalent of 150-160 euros for it some years ago |
21:54:48 | corbell | eight 1800 nimh batteries |
21:54:52 | zeekoe2 | for the lennox? |
21:54:57 | corbell | no, my Nomad |
21:54:59 | zeekoe2 | okay |
21:55:00 | zeekoe2 | cool |
21:55:03 | corbell | I just have a 5Volt power pack |
21:55:09 | corbell | home made by some australian dude :p |
21:55:13 | zeekoe2 | :P |
21:55:14 | corbell | works pretty well. |
21:55:25 | zeekoe2 | okay... music i have |
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