| 00:00:06 | LinusN | yes |
| 00:00:06 | Tunsnask | i was searching for cure |
| 00:00:10 | zeekoe | okay |
| 00:00:24 | LinusN | how big is the playlist? |
| 00:00:55 | amiconn | LinusN: I found a module where the size difference is quite significant (>15 %) - rolo.c. I'll look into the disassembly now |
| 00:02:34 | Tunsnask | you mean how many songs.... or what? |
| 00:02:58 | LinusN | yes |
| 00:03:09 | Tunsnask | i dont know.... |
| 00:04:20 | LinusN | did it ever stop searching? |
| 00:04:25 | Tunsnask | no |
| 00:04:31 | LinusN | the led blinks? |
| 00:04:49 | Tunsnask | i think do |
| 00:04:49 | Tunsnask | so |
| 00:05:10 | LinusN | it would be really helpful if you sent me the .m3u file |
| 00:05:20 | Tunsnask | ok |
| 00:05:25 | | Quit zeekoe ("aAA44AArrgGGHhh... my computer just did something _really_ REALLY wrong... cu later") |
| 00:05:30 | LinusN | linus at haxx dot se |
| 00:06:36 | | Join zeekoe [0] (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 00:06:56 | midk | ZXEEEKERY. |
| 00:06:58 | zeekoe | pressed the close button... |
| 00:07:04 | zeekoe | midknight! |
| 00:09:45 | zeekoe | hm... converting videos takes quite some time |
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| 00:16:20 | zeekoe | btw, is it normal i get "scanlines" while displaying rvf? |
| 00:16:47 | amiconn | LinusN: rolo.c is really an interesting case. The biggest function in that (rolo_load() ) does a number of checks which all result in similar action (display some error text, the return from the function with -1). |
| 00:17:45 | amiconn | LinusN: Gcc 3.3.1 optimizes that in a way that all rolo_error("blabla"); return -1; sequences are handled by the same code fragment, while gcc 3.4.1 does not. |
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| 00:19:01 | amiconn | It seems that either gcc 3.4.1 doesn't understand an optimization flag anymore that was understood by gcc 3.3.1, it interprets some flag differently, or it doesn't optimize as much by itself |
| 00:19:36 | LinusN | aha |
| 00:20:41 | amiconn | Now we "only" have to find out which of these possible reasons is the correct one :-/ |
| 00:21:31 | amiconn | Imho gcc 3.3.1 uses a real clever optimization here, as this even doesn't hit performance |
| 00:31:58 | amiconn | There aren't many optimization flags used by rockbox... |
| 00:36:28 | LinusN | -fthread-jumps looks interesting |
| 00:37:08 | amiconn | -funit-at-a-time (or using -O2) does look interesting as well |
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| 00:49:03 | zeekoe | whoops... battery life is <2 hours when continually using hard disk, i guess |
| 00:50:06 | dstar5 | don't doubt... |
| 00:50:13 | midk | plug, it, in. |
| 00:50:44 | zeekoe | i dont have an inplug |
| 00:51:06 | dstar5 | wtf? |
| 00:51:21 | zeekoe | the guy i bought it from had thrown away the adapter, since it was of no use anyway |
| 00:52:19 | amiconn | LinusN: Just trying to compile binutil 2.15 and gcc 3.4.1 on cygwin - is it normal that compiling binutils throws some warnings? |
| 00:52:21 | zeekoe | i still have to find myself a plug that fits into the archos |
| 00:54:19 | zeekoe | dstar5: you had to tell me about some guy |
| 00:54:41 | uski | off-topic: anyone knows the syntax for the unix AT command ? |
| 00:54:42 | dstar5 | i did? |
| 00:55:00 | dstar5 | zeekoe, what guy? |
| 00:55:02 | zeekoe | dstar5: his name was in the rockbox-trivia, and started with a t, iirc |
| 00:55:25 | dstar5 | ahh track |
| 00:55:26 | dstar5 | lol |
| 00:55:29 | zeekoe | yeah |
| 00:55:38 | dstar5 | LinusN can tell you all about him :) |
| 00:57:22 | zeekoe | i already found some reading matter :) |
| 00:57:24 | zeekoe | http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/rockbox-20031014.txt |
| 00:57:53 | dstar5 | i bet there is lots of nice reading on him |
| 00:57:54 | dstar5 | lol |
| 00:58:06 | dstar5 | ill find some of his work... hol don |
| 00:58:22 | LinusN | amiconn: yes, warnings are common |
| 00:59:00 | zeekoe | was track worse than me? |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:01 | dstar5 | lol much worse |
| 01:00:11 | dstar5 | LinusN, still have that letter track sent you? |
| 01:01:25 | midk | haha |
| 01:01:28 | midk | AHAHA. |
| 01:01:44 | dstar5 | humm has tracks feature requests been totaly deleted? |
| 01:02:08 | dstar5 | sdd |
| 01:03:05 | zeekoe | what did he request? |
| 01:03:13 | midk | stupid stuff. |
| 01:03:18 | midk | "make the lcd touchscreen" |
| 01:03:22 | midk | "sdd asdf" |
| 01:03:28 | dstar5 | tea maker.. sdd.. make mike holden shut up... |
| 01:03:30 | midk | "make the archos into a tea maker" |
| 01:03:42 | zeekoe | ..... |
| 01:03:49 | zeekoe | what's ssd asdf? |
| 01:03:50 | amiconn | LinusN: While building binutils: |
| 01:03:51 | amiconn | configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up |
| 01:03:51 | amiconn | make: *** [configure-ld] Error 1 |
| 01:03:54 | amiconn | :-( |
| 01:03:54 | midk | uh, random text. |
| 01:03:56 | zeekoe | "<track> but where do you source the 9.5mm drives from?" |
| 01:04:29 | midk | here you go, zeekoe. |
| 01:04:29 | midk | http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/rockbox-20040119.txt |
| 01:04:37 | dstar5 | amiconn, you need bison i think |
| 01:05:02 | zeekoe | what's the irc nick of mike holden? |
| 01:06:31 | midk | mikeholden. |
| 01:06:54 | zeekoe | ok.. think i never seen him around here |
| 01:07:58 | midk | no, but ever since he replied to track's idiotic requests saying it was a bit unfeasible track's been after him |
| 01:08:12 | zeekoe | :) |
| 01:08:39 | dstar5 | it was funny to! |
| 01:09:34 | * | zeekoe reading... |
| 01:11:29 | dstar5 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=689196&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
| 01:12:03 | | Quit Tunsnask () |
| 01:12:28 | midk | haha, that one's good |
| 01:13:04 | dstar5 | remember mikeh0lden :) |
| 01:13:12 | midk | that just wasn't funny. |
| 01:13:15 | zeekoe | what's that? |
| 01:13:26 | zeekoe | sdf? |
| 01:13:44 | midk | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=44306&atid=439121&func=detail&aid=855975 |
| 01:13:47 | midk | RANDOM TEXT. |
| 01:14:23 | dstar5 | thats the best one |
| 01:14:32 | midk | i submitted that. |
| 01:14:42 | midk | but that's the one with the mikeh0lden reply |
| 01:14:54 | zeekoe | :-| |
| 01:14:55 | midk | and i'd like to point out that it's about my only bogus request. |
| 01:15:01 | zeekoe | heh |
| 01:15:04 | midk | he made me. |
| 01:15:07 | midk | it was his idea |
| 01:15:08 | * | midk points |
| 01:15:11 | zeekoe | you evil midk |
| 01:15:16 | midk | die zeeker. |
| 01:15:46 | zeekoe | oh no.... |
| 01:15:49 | zeekoe | degauss.... |
| 01:15:59 | zeekoe | i want that too |
| 01:16:20 | midk | i could probably code it actually |
| 01:16:26 | midk | but no point. |
| 01:17:14 | midk | using a sine table you could also probably do pincushion rather easily. |
| 01:17:31 | zeekoe | what does pincushion do? |
| 01:18:03 | zeekoe | never mind |
| 01:18:04 | midk | squeezes in at the center, pushes out at the top and bottom |
| 01:18:05 | midk | try it |
| 01:18:07 | zeekoe | google told me |
| 01:18:37 | zeekoe | i cant try |
| 01:18:54 | zeekoe | at least, i think i cant |
| 01:19:31 | * | zeekoe having laptop |
| 01:20:10 | midk | HAHA. |
| 01:20:37 | midk | I R t3H HAVEING A LAPTOP~!!!1. HR U DO TH 'PinhCUSIN"!? |
| 01:21:59 | zeekoe | 4nd h0W 4B0uT d3g4Us5? |
| 01:22:43 | dstar5 | lcd's have no degauss :( |
| 01:22:51 | midk | U R 3h TSUPID!1`1 DEUGAA WTF 4 LUZDERS HI HUNY |
| 01:23:11 | dstar5 | midk, stfu |
| 01:23:25 | zeekoe | what's HUNY? |
| 01:23:41 | midk | honey. |
| 01:23:48 | zeekoe | hm |
| 01:23:49 | zeekoe | okay... |
| 01:23:52 | midk | DSTR5 RU GIRL |
| 01:24:41 | dstar5 | midk, what is your porblem? |
| 01:24:53 | dstar5 | to retarded to speak? |
| 01:24:56 | zeekoe | http://www.1337.org.uk/ |
| 01:25:52 | zeekoe | or this translator: http://www.ijsqueen.com/vertaler/ |
| 01:26:43 | dstar5 | i know what it is... |
| 01:26:56 | dstar5 | not that i am stuiped and have taken the time to read all that shit |
| 01:27:10 | zeekoe | :P |
| 01:28:52 | zeekoe | midk: do you still have track's message? |
| 01:29:00 | midk | he didn't send me one. |
| 01:29:27 | zeekoe | <midknight2k3> he sent me the same type thing |
| 01:29:33 | midk | uh |
| 01:29:34 | midk | :D |
| 01:29:39 | midk | i deleted it? |
| 01:29:47 | zeekoe | ok |
| 01:29:49 | zeekoe | nah |
| 01:30:02 | zeekoe | that were just some words needing not to be repeated |
| 01:30:22 | zeekoe | http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/rockbox-20040119.txt ->22.38.44 |
| 01:30:59 | midk | yup./ |
| 01:31:09 | midk | i was going to say to you when i pasted, check that exact time |
| 01:31:10 | midk | but. yeah. |
| 01:33:10 | zeekoe | ok |
| 01:35:29 | | Nick zeekoe is now known as track_ (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 01:35:42 | midk | who saw my photoshop skills |
| 01:35:52 | track_ | i didnt |
| 01:35:53 | track_ | show me |
| 01:36:51 | track_ | i did some stuff too |
| 01:37:03 | track_ | http://www.tred.net/plaatjes/ |
| 01:37:15 | midk | hm, my best one |
| 01:37:20 | midk | was |
| 01:37:25 | midk | original image: http://www.geocities.com/midknight2k3/tallbldg.jpg |
| 01:37:31 | midk | what i came up with: http://www.geocities.com/midknight2k3/building-fall-6.jpg |
| 01:37:36 | dstar5 | ohh no not his stuiped pics |
| 01:37:54 | midk | i am so "stuiped" |
| 01:37:57 | midk | :( |
| 01:37:59 | track_ | cool |
| 01:38:47 | dstar5 | well they do get old... |
| 01:38:54 | midk | to you |
| 01:38:56 | midk | he's never seen them. |
| 01:39:13 | | Nick track_ is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 01:39:16 | midk | thanks for showing me the correct spelling of "stupid" - i know my english isn't very good. |
| 01:39:56 | zeekoe | there are more people who say stuiped: http://www.google.com/search?q=stuiped |
| 01:40:49 | midk | but apparently even more who spell it "stupid" |
| 01:40:52 | midk | what idiots. |
| 01:41:31 | midk | go dids. |
| 01:41:32 | midk | http://www.google.com/search?q=stuiped+site%3Arockbox.haxx.se&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1 |
| 01:42:06 | dstar5 | me feel special |
| 01:42:45 | midk | no, "i feel special" |
| 01:43:01 | midk | lesson one: first person isn't third person. |
| 01:43:19 | LinusN | time to sleep, cu around guys |
| 01:43:23 | midk | later linus |
| 01:43:24 | zeekoe | bye |
| 01:43:27 | | Part LinusN |
| 01:43:38 | dstar5 | midk, stop being a little dick. |
| 01:43:57 | midk | ...are you implying i should be a big dick instead? |
| 01:44:38 | dstar5 | bye. |
| 01:44:39 | | Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") |
| 01:44:54 | midk | hm, he's a bit to sensitive |
| 01:45:11 | midk | too* |
| 01:45:15 | amiconn | Grmpf, building binutils takes ages |
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| 01:45:45 | dstar5 | 01.44.54 # <midk> hm, he's a bit to sensitive |
| 01:45:46 | dstar5 | 01.45.11 # <midk> too* |
| 01:45:48 | dstar5 | ahah! |
| 01:45:53 | dstar5 | you messed up. |
| 01:45:59 | midk | i had to run and grab the phone |
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| 01:46:10 | midk | hm, nice. |
| 01:46:31 | zeekoe | midk: your clock is wrong |
| 01:46:38 | midk | zeekoe, probably. |
| 01:46:43 | midk | zeekoe, i'm working on it. |
| 01:46:49 | zeekoe | amiconn: your clock is wrong too |
| 01:46:54 | zeekoe | no, the computer clock |
| 01:47:00 | amiconn | zeekoe: huh? |
| 01:47:14 | midk | zeekoe, ? |
| 01:47:24 | zeekoe | amiconn: your computer clock is 9 seconds in the future |
| 01:47:36 | zeekoe | midk: your computer clock is 43 seconds in the future |
| 01:47:46 | midk | .. good one. |
| 01:47:50 | zeekoe | ? |
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| 01:48:30 | midk | haha... |
| 01:48:31 | midk | <midknight2k3> DIE DIE DIE |
| 01:48:31 | midk | 01.10.47 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") |
| 01:49:37 | zeekoe | ? |
| 01:50:11 | zeekoe | i have my time synced every 15 minutes |
| 01:50:24 | zeekoe | i'll do a feature request for rockbox |
| 01:50:43 | midk | i've got to get off irc for a while. |
| 01:52:20 | zeekoe | ok |
| 01:52:22 | zeekoe | night |
| 01:52:36 | midk | nite? |
| 01:52:44 | amiconn | zeekoe: By default windows does it once a week, which is a bit long an interval of course. Imho doing it once or twice a day should yield sufficient precisions |
| 01:52:59 | amiconn | *precision |
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| 01:55:15 | zeekoe | amiconn_: can windows do it too? |
| 01:56:14 | amiconn_ | yup |
| 01:56:20 | amiconn_ | (at least XP) |
| 01:56:28 | zeekoe | ok |
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| 01:56:56 | zeekoe | i'm using some other program which does it every 15 minutes :) |
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| 02:00:40 | zeekoe | hm |
| 02:00:47 | zeekoe | i think i'm going to sleep to |
| 02:00:48 | | Quit mecraw___ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") |
| 02:00:50 | zeekoe | +o |
| 02:01:02 | zeekoe | have to work 10 hours from now |
| 02:01:04 | zeekoe | bye |
| 02:04:40 | amiconn | Just changed the synchronization interval to 12 hours |
| 02:04:46 | amiconn | nite zeekoe |
| 02:10:04 | zeekoe | nite |
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| 04:04:07 | tpelliott | Anyone have a wierd button problem on a V1 recorder where you suddenly have 4 play buttons and the up button is the only direction button that still does what it's supposed to? |
| 04:04:48 | tpelliott | That happened to me but it works ok now. |
| 04:07:47 | dstar5 | no |
| 04:07:52 | dstar5 | weird |
| 04:07:58 | dstar5 | where did it occur? |
| 04:08:08 | dstar5 | and what was going on? playing a song etc... |
| 04:08:31 | tpelliott | Trying to access a song. |
| 04:09:42 | dstar5 | i don't think anything changed latly would cause it |
| 04:10:11 | dstar5 | maybe just a low battery issue... i have had weird things happen when batteries are low |
| 04:10:33 | tpelliott | I've had the up arrow go into setup before. |
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| 04:10:54 | dstar5 | heh |
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| 04:12:09 | tpelliott | Also. Do you know where to get replacements for those tiny screwes at the top and bottom? I'm missing one but it does not seem to be a problem. |
| 04:12:54 | tpelliott | One was hard to get in amd I stripped the head. I got it out though. |
| 04:13:00 | dstar5 | humm newmp3technology.com maybe |
| 04:13:36 | tpelliott | They almost look like screwes for glasses. Longer maybe. |
| 04:14:03 | dstar5 | you should email the guys at newmp3technology.com |
| 04:14:14 | dstar5 | i bet they could get you some free or very low price |
| 04:14:39 | tpelliott | ok. I may take the screw to a repair shop first to see if they can match it. |
| 04:15:16 | dstar5 | good luck :) |
| 04:15:18 | tpelliott | It would be hard to describe in an email unless they have an Archos they can reference. |
| 04:16:08 | dstar5 | well newmp3tech only works with archos units |
| 04:16:18 | dstar5 | just tell them the v1 rec, and they will know |
| 04:16:47 | tpelliott | ok. I've seen that site before. They sell HD upgrades. |
| 04:17:36 | tpelliott | I upgraded to a 60GB drive myself about a year ago. It's been working great for almost 2 years. |
| 04:17:59 | dstar5 | cool |
| 04:18:29 | dstar5 | ill have a v1 rec 15 tomorow hopefully :) |
| 04:18:32 | dstar5 | got it off ebay |
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| 04:19:13 | tpelliott | I can't believe there's not a single HD MP3 player in production now that uses standard batteries. |
| 04:20:00 | dstar5 | that does suck :( i think it is marketing people see lilon adn automaticly think better |
| 04:20:55 | tpelliott | They sell more new units when the battery dies. |
| 04:21:55 | tpelliott | Are you getting the Vi recorder as a backup? |
| 04:21:56 | midk | brb |
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| 04:24:15 | dstar5 | no my old recorder died |
| 04:24:45 | scott666 | tpelliott: it's because LiIon batteries are better in almost every way (that way being non-standard) |
| 04:24:55 | dstar5 | but it kinda was a decent deal, i was able to sell the 20 gb drive out of my old recorder |
| 04:25:01 | scott666 | smaller, lighter, longer life... |
| 04:25:32 | dstar5 | then why doo they not make a standard liION cell? |
| 04:28:32 | scott666 | good question |
| 04:28:48 | scott666 | probably because they have to fit in the amount of space available in the player |
| 04:29:21 | dstar5 | ohh i figured it out <tpelliott> They sell more new units when the battery dies. and then they have to get a new player because no one can replace the battery themself |
| 04:30:45 | scott666 | i alwasy thought 'life of the unit' claims for batteries were funny |
| 04:30:54 | scott666 | cause when the battery dies, its life is over |
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| 04:32:01 | scott666 | zakky! |
| 04:32:12 | scott666 | (?) |
| 04:32:22 | midk | uh |
| 04:32:28 | tpelliott | I have a minidisc player that uses a li-ion "gumstick" battery that you can easily replace. |
| 04:32:29 | midk | SCOTYY |
| 04:32:45 | dstar5 | anyone listen to faithless? |
| 04:33:17 | tpelliott | Who is faithless? |
| 04:33:42 | dstar5 | band |
| 04:33:45 | dstar5 | really good |
| 04:34:01 | dstar5 | http://www.faithless.co.uk/ |
| 04:34:06 | dstar5 | its uk band |
| 04:34:17 | tpelliott | Cool. Do you listen to the Beatles? |
| 04:34:25 | dstar5 | yes |
| 04:34:44 | dstar5 | i have 4 albums |
| 04:35:15 | tpelliott | They are my favorite. I like some new stuff too but mostly older music. |
| 04:35:22 | dstar5 | i think you can listen to some of their music on the site |
| 04:35:38 | dstar5 | tpelliott: cool are you a pink floyd fan? |
| 04:36:00 | tpelliott | No a huge fan but I have a few CDs. |
| 04:36:08 | dstar5 | if you listen to the music on site, go to album reverace |
| 04:36:35 | tpelliott | What type of music is on your Archos? |
| 04:36:48 | dstar5 | uhh nothing now |
| 04:36:49 | dstar5 | lol |
| 04:36:57 | dstar5 | but i have lots of music |
| 04:37:01 | tpelliott | It's still on the hard drive. |
| 04:37:02 | dstar5 | lots of styles |
| 04:37:11 | dstar5 | well... i sold the drive... |
| 04:37:21 | dstar5 | my new unit should be here tomorrow |
| 04:37:29 | tpelliott | Are you going to upgrade the hard drive? |
| 04:37:39 | dstar5 | no |
| 04:37:51 | dstar5 | i would but i want to stay cheap for a bit |
| 04:38:19 | tpelliott | You can upgrade later. How much did you pay for the unit? |
| 04:38:36 | dstar5 | $100 a bit more than i wanted to pay... |
| 04:39:31 | tpelliott | Have you ever found them on ebay with a dead hard drive or without one? |
| 04:40:06 | dstar5 | yes i have seen one once i have seen lots of av's without hds though |
| 04:40:33 | tpelliott | the old one with the small screen? |
| 04:40:46 | dstar5 | no the new 300's |
| 04:41:26 | tpelliott | I wander why? |
| 04:41:36 | dstar5 | who knows |
| 04:42:01 | tpelliott | I know it's cheaper to buy a 4 gig micro drive in an mp3 player. |
| 04:42:15 | dstar5 | heh i did hear about that |
| 04:42:53 | dstar5 | wtf why is winamp not showing all my music |
| 04:43:52 | dstar5 | humm the library needed to be rescaned |
| 04:43:53 | dstar5 | weird |
| 04:44:27 | tpelliott | What mp3 player would you get if you couldn't get a V1 Archos? |
| 04:44:41 | tpelliott | And you had more cash? |
| 04:44:46 | midk | a v2 archos? |
| 04:44:48 | midk | av320. |
| 04:45:03 | tpelliott | I like the av320 too. |
| 04:45:08 | dstar5 | av500 :) |
| 04:45:16 | midk | there is no 500 |
| 04:45:19 | midk | there is however a 400 |
| 04:45:26 | dstar5 | ahh whatever |
| 04:45:40 | midk | this reminds me - dunce does mean 'stupid person', you can check at dictionary.com |
| 04:45:50 | tpelliott | I'm curious about the multimedia units that will run Windows |
| 04:46:07 | dstar5 | i dont know if something is wrong with me but for some reason i keep seeing purple text on my computer in random places |
| 04:46:24 | tpelliott | strange. |
| 04:47:59 | dstar5 | tpelliott: got any the who? |
| 04:50:21 | tpelliott | I love the Who. I've got a bunch. |
| 04:51:11 | tpelliott | Live At Leeds is killer so it Who's Next and Tommy. |
| 04:51:21 | tpelliott | is |
| 04:51:42 | dstar5 | i have Live at Leads |
| 04:51:50 | dstar5 | and Who's Next |
| 04:51:55 | dstar5 | and dont have TOmmy |
| 04:52:07 | dstar5 | i didnot really like WHo's Nexy though |
| 04:52:33 | tpelliott | I just burned a CD with so may Beatles mp3's I had to overburn a few bites. |
| 04:53:00 | dstar5 | what do you rip with and what quality? |
| 04:53:06 | tpelliott | I have an mp3 CD boombox at work. I don't tant to take my Archos there. |
| 04:54:05 | tpelliott | Easy CD-DA Lame 192 CBR or 96/mono |
| 04:54:26 | tpelliott | What do you rip at? |
| 04:54:55 | dstar5 | same lame 192 cbr, but i never rip in mono |
| 04:55:18 | tpelliott | I only do that if the source is mono. |
| 04:56:09 | tpelliott | I have a bunch of old time radio on my Archos too. |
| 04:56:24 | dstar5 | neat |
| 04:57:07 | tpelliott | I downloaded Clinton's autobiography for curiosity. |
| 04:58:14 | dstar5 | lol |
| 04:59:08 | tpelliott | Overburn works fine. |
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| 05:01:13 | dstar5 | the chech and chong up in smoke soundtrack is so funny |
| 05:01:27 | dstar5 | s/chech/cheech |
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| 05:02:29 | tpelliott | I'm going to bed. |
| 05:03:20 | dstar5 | see you |
| 05:03:24 | dstar5 | brb |
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| 07:07:05 | midk | hi LinusN |
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| 07:23:58 | LinusN | hi midk |
| 07:24:23 | guitarguy19 | hey i just got a studio 20 and i installed rockbox..but now it says "dir buffer is full" everytime i start it up |
| 07:25:16 | LinusN | guitarguy: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#76 |
| 07:25:24 | LinusN | rockbox 2.2 has a bug |
| 07:25:30 | guitarguy19 | k thanks |
| 07:25:39 | LinusN | either read the link above or upgrade to a daily build |
| 07:28:11 | guitarguy19 | ok im getting a daily build, thanks |
| 07:28:20 | guitarguy19 | will i need to change the max files in a folder setting? |
| 07:28:39 | LinusN | not if you upgrade |
| 07:28:43 | guitarguy19 | o ok |
| 07:31:00 | guitarguy19 | hmm im getting the same error, and 399 files are showing up..instead of 1200 |
| 07:31:18 | guitarguy19 | (sry this is for my friend) |
| 07:31:48 | LinusN | this is because the limit is set to 400 by default |
| 07:32:03 | LinusN | who in their right mind puts 1200 files in the same dir? |
| 07:32:08 | guitarguy19 | lol idk |
| 07:32:13 | guitarguy19 | how do i change it |
| 07:33:16 | midk | LinusN, iirc the playlist setting is from 1000-20000? |
| 07:33:36 | LinusN | menu->general settings->system->limits->max files in dir browser |
| 07:33:56 | LinusN | midk: yes |
| 07:34:13 | midk | there should be a "0" option, for disabling playlists. |
| 07:34:23 | LinusN | guitarguy19: select the number you want and press play |
| 07:34:36 | guitarguy19 | ok thanks a ton |
| 07:34:38 | LinusN | then play a song, stop it, and reboot |
| 07:34:47 | LinusN | midk: you can't disable playlists |
| 07:34:55 | LinusN | everything is playlists |
| 07:35:03 | midk | hm, "1" then |
| 07:35:12 | LinusN | even if you just play a file, a temporary playlist is created for you |
| 07:35:24 | midk | actually, forget i said it. |
| 07:35:29 | LinusN | as always :-) |
| 07:35:34 | midk | :) |
| 07:37:47 | guitarguy19 | thanks guys, im out |
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| 09:20:59 | amiconn | hi LinusN |
| 09:33:15 | LinusN | hi |
| 09:33:42 | amiconn | I finally succeeded in building binutils 2.15 and gcc 3.4.1 |
| 09:33:52 | LinusN | great |
| 09:34:04 | amiconn | I had to install bison and flex for it to work |
| 09:34:42 | amiconn | Compilation took around 50 minutes for both, not including my failed attempts |
| 09:37:45 | amiconn | Sh-elf-gcc 3.3.1 from Eric Lassauge's cygwin package is compiled with −−disable-nls, while your Howto doesn't include that |
| 09:37:55 | amiconn | I wonder if this would make any difference |
| 09:39:24 | LinusN | hmm, i don't think so |
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| 09:43:04 | amiconn | LinusN: Did you ever try to compile Rockbox with higher optimization levels than -O ? |
| 09:43:13 | LinusN | i don't think so |
| 09:46:18 | amiconn | I think I'll try that in the evening, with different gcc versions |
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| 10:25:42 | lImbus | Hi LinusN, I have some remorse. I see you working all the time and I profit on than. I could try to help you too. |
| 10:25:46 | lImbus | I *want* |
| 10:29:31 | LinusN | what would you want to do? |
| 10:30:27 | lImbus | mhmm. I think bugfixing is important. (and less creative). If you have a clear assumption where the problem is located, you can point me on and I'll try it. |
| 10:31:44 | LinusN | pick your favourite in the bug tracker |
| 10:31:59 | lImbus | then I send the patch to you ? |
| 10:32:08 | LinusN | or to the patch tracker |
| 10:32:56 | lImbus | naaa. I don't like to implement feature if I can be pretty sure somebody else has a clear idea for the solution. I lack on creativity sometimes |
| 10:33:15 | lImbus | ...implement a feature... |
| 10:34:14 | LinusN | the patch tracker is for bug fixes too |
| 10:34:59 | lImbus | of course. was confounding with feature request list. |
| 10:35:20 | lImbus | whan can I so with patch tracker items ? to polish them ? I got no cvs access. |
| 10:36:10 | lImbus | I mean. If there is a bugfix in the patch tracker, what can I help you on ? |
| 10:36:51 | LinusN | you could take a look at A-B repeat |
| 10:37:12 | LinusN | i don't like it as it is today, but you can try to work out a good UI for it |
| 10:37:44 | lImbus | yeah, I've seen two feature requests for it. so I should find the patch. I'll work on that. ok |
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| 12:45:23 | lImbus | LinusN: forgot my rockbox at home. :-/ |
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| 12:59:13 | LinusN | lImbus: :-) |
| 12:59:25 | LinusN | that's a deadly sin |
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| 13:00:27 | c0utta | hey linus, is chkdsk /f still the best way to check my jukebox drive ? |
| 13:06:31 | midk | YAY, i'm going to put some, like, graphics in my clock, yay. graphics for.. well.. GRAPHICS. |
| 13:06:43 | LinusN | c0utta: guess so |
| 13:07:22 | c0utta | has anyone used spinrite before connected by usb ? |
| 13:07:33 | LinusN | what's that? |
| 13:08:21 | c0utta | http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm |
| 13:10:27 | midk | LinusN, i'm trying your cross-compiler instructions now |
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| 13:14:29 | c0utta | ok. is it possible to boot up a pc with a dos boot disk and still access the drive via usb ? |
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| 13:15:36 | iralemming | hi |
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| 13:17:44 | [IDC]Dragon | hello uski , do you read? |
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| 13:21:53 | iralemming | something. |
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| 14:12:25 | midk | LinusN, I completed installing the cross compiler |
| 14:12:27 | midk | now to test it |
| 14:12:37 | midk | by the way, gdb was completely optional, right? |
| 14:14:54 | midk | looking great. works! |
| 14:15:12 | midk | wow. it built in about 20 seconds |
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| 14:18:31 | midk|sleep | nite all. |
| 14:19:34 | * | midk|sleep is away: sleeping |
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| 14:48:39 | lImbus | c0utta: don't think so. tryed that a while ago and failed. since then I use knoppix (a live cd-debian linux) that boots from cd and gives usb as well as ntfs-support |
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| 16:11:01 | LinusN | i'm in trouble |
| 16:11:25 | LinusN | i just made a hit'n'run commit to cvs, only because i have to go home |
| 16:11:38 | LinusN | i'll finish it up when i get home |
| 16:11:44 | LinusN | :-) |
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| 16:31:24 | dstar5 | god i hate pdf's |
| 16:31:50 | dstar5 | maybrei just have bad luck, but they always freez my borwser |
| 16:32:03 | dstar5 | and theyare huge files... kinda hard on a modem |
| 16:32:20 | dstar5 | why not just use.... html? |
| 16:33:37 | lImbus | because it would fit to the size of your monitor. must be a drm issue. |
| 16:34:21 | dstar5 | but ANYONE that wants to edit a pdf can do it if they really want to |
| 16:35:43 | dstar5 | and also.. i have never had a problem with monitor sizes and viewing html |
| 16:39:35 | lImbus | in fact, pdf is more than only docreading. it's pretty nice for forms. |
| 16:40:04 | dstar5 | that it is kinda good for... |
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| 17:46:26 | scott666_ | gromit``: hey |
| 17:46:32 | gromit`` | hey |
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| 17:46:37 | scott666 | whats up? |
| 17:48:03 | gromit`` | holidays tomorrow :) |
| 17:48:06 | gromit`` | beach etc :) |
| 17:48:12 | gromit`` | good :) |
| 17:49:01 | scott666 | yay |
| 17:49:11 | scott666 | i just got out of summer school :-) |
| 17:50:20 | gromit`` | what is it ? |
| 17:50:36 | gromit`` | a place to learn or to chase the girls ? |
| 17:50:40 | scott666 | re-takeing a class because i failed it in normal school |
| 17:50:48 | gromit`` | oh okay :) |
| 17:50:50 | scott666 | little of both |
| 17:50:51 | scott666 | heh |
| 17:50:52 | gromit`` | :) |
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| 18:22:00 | sethians | any speaks spanish ? |
| 18:23:29 | gromit`` | un poco |
| 18:23:33 | gromit`` | :) |
| 18:23:49 | gromit`` | hola |
| 18:24:09 | sethians | holas gromit |
| 18:24:37 | sethians | tengo un problema.. se me rompio /salio la entrada de alimentación... para recargar las pilas... de mi mp3 recorder.. |
| 18:27:17 | scott666 | im supprised how much of that i understood, considering i dont speak spanish |
| 18:27:53 | gromit`` | pero no conozco ninguna cosa a propocito del recorder :) |
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| 18:50:13 | dstar5 | what does propocito mean? |
| 18:54:10 | dstar5 | what does propocito mean? |
| 18:54:24 | dstar5 | ¿Qué el propocito significa? |
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| 20:53:02 | amiconn | LinusN: Compiling rockbox with -O2 and both gcc 3.3.1 and 3.4.1 already had 2 interesting results |
| 20:53:52 | LinusN | "interesting" sounds like bad news :-) |
| 20:53:59 | amiconn | (1) gcc 3.3.1 compiles without errors, binary size almost equal to compiling with -O |
| 20:55:29 | amiconn | (2) gcc 3.4.1 compiles Rockbox itself, but binary size is even larger than with -O, and it produces an assembler error (pcrel too far) while trying to compile the plugin lib |
| 20:56:32 | LinusN | ok so it inlines a little too much then |
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| 21:00:27 | Smooth | u could have "Standby" and "Restart" to compliment "Shutdown" |
| 21:00:47 | amiconn | Smooth: You forgot "Hibernate" ;-) |
| 21:01:04 | Smooth | oh yea, and "Hibernate" as well |
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| 21:05:28 | scott666 | whats the difference between standby and hibernate? |
| 21:06:37 | Smooth | Standby stores the "state" in the RAM, whilst hibernate stores it on the hard disk |
| 21:06:58 | scott666 | dont we save the 'state' either way? |
| 21:07:13 | Smooth | if you have "Resume" activated |
| 21:07:20 | * | scott666 does |
| 21:07:40 | scott666 | resume info doesnt get saved if the setting is off? |
| 21:07:45 | scott666 | are you sure about that? |
| 21:07:53 | Smooth | duno |
| 21:07:55 | Smooth | ask linus |
| 21:08:05 | LinusN | ? |
| 21:08:58 | LinusN | which setting are you talking about? |
| 21:09:03 | Smooth | resume |
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| 21:10:15 | LinusN | well, if resume is set to off, then it isn't saved |
| 21:10:41 | Smooth | the "superbass" option is too fiddly |
| 21:10:49 | Smooth | bring back the old bass boost adjuster |
| 21:11:09 | Smooth | much more midk-proof, sorry idiot proof |
| 21:11:13 | Smooth | :-) |
| 21:12:23 | scott666 | _nothing_ is midk-proof ;-) |
| 21:12:44 | Smooth | i know that |
| 21:13:10 | amiconn | LinusN: Compiling with -Os is even more "interesting" |
| 21:13:52 | midk | Smooth, you're the one who can't operate it, apparently... |
| 21:14:05 | LinusN | Smooth: superbass is either on or off, what's hard with that? |
| 21:14:20 | LinusN | or do you mean MDB? |
| 21:14:53 | Smooth | prefer the old bass boost adjuster, not all these new options |
| 21:14:55 | LinusN | Smooth: actually, all you have to do is enable it, and adjust the strength |
| 21:14:55 | amiconn | LinusN: Both gcc 3.3.1 and 3.4.1 compile the firmware itself, yielding significantly smaller binaries (~ 8K). Here gcc 3.4.1 is indeed a bit better |
| 21:15:01 | Smooth | ok |
| 21:15:16 | LinusN | the other parameters are by default the same as the old one |
| 21:15:27 | Smooth | Linus an option to kill the Status bar in the WPS and re-enable it in the browser would be handy |
| 21:15:34 | midk | that is if you're not Smooth enough to use the other parameters :] |
| 21:15:36 | amiconn | While gcc 3.4.1 errors at the same spot as with -O2 (pcrel too far) |
| 21:15:42 | Smooth | since the WPS enables data for battery life and volume to be shown |
| 21:15:51 | Smooth | oh shut up mikeholden |
| 21:15:52 | LinusN | Smooth: perhaps a good idea |
| 21:16:21 | Smooth | yea, its a bit fiddly manually turning the Statusbar on and off if u have battery life and volume showing in the wps |
| 21:16:36 | midk | LinusN, did you also ever consider taking the statusbar out of the menus? |
| 21:16:36 | amiconn | gcc 3.3.1 errors a bit later; when linking jpeg.rock it complains about an undefined reference to _memcpy |
| 21:17:11 | LinusN | don't you just love it |
| 21:17:13 | midk | i think the menus should take up the whole screen. it'd look better and give more room |
| 21:17:37 | amiconn | Both compiler issue a warning for strcpy.c when compiling with -Os: common/strcpy.c:68: warning: suggest parentheses around assignment used as truth value |
| 21:18:12 | amiconn | I don't get why this is; I don't see a truth value in line 68... |
| 21:21:28 | LinusN | of course there is |
| 21:21:46 | LinusN | it uses the result from the assignment as the loop condition |
| 21:22:25 | LinusN | it's =, not == |
| 21:23:00 | amiconn | Argh, I looked into strncpy.c instead |
| 21:23:07 | LinusN | haha |
| 21:24:26 | amiconn | So putting another pair of parentheses there should fix the warning. |
| 21:24:47 | LinusN | yes |
| 21:25:09 | LinusN | it's a way of telling the compiler that you really mean it |
| 21:25:27 | amiconn | The gcc 3.3.1 problem with jpeg.c is funny - there is no reference to memcpy in the reported function. Obviously gcc tries to optimize something by using memcpy, which of course fails for plugins |
| 21:27:59 | amiconn | From googling around the "pcrel too far" problem with gcc 3.4.1 is a reintroduced bug. I wonder if we should stick with 3.3.x for compiling rockbox... |
| 21:28:24 | LinusN | it's often about passing large data types to functions |
| 21:28:48 | LinusN | we use 3.0.4 for the automatic builds today |
| 21:31:05 | amiconn | Yes I know. I use 3.3.1 with cygwin, did not find any problems so far, and the binaries are smaller than with both 3.0.4 and 3.4.1 |
| 21:31:19 | amiconn | This is of course useful for rombox... |
| 21:31:34 | LinusN | it's a shame that 3.3.1 can be such a bitch to compile |
| 21:32:15 | amiconn | What's the problem with it? |
| 21:32:36 | LinusN | it requires libc headers when building the bootstrap compiler, for no reason |
| 21:32:56 | LinusN | so it fails with "can't find stdio.h" |
| 21:33:12 | amiconn | I think I should try to compile 3.3.4 |
| 21:38:32 | amiconn | I wonder how Eric Lassauge compiled 3.3.1 then |
| 21:39:56 | LinusN | he is probably smarter than i am :-) |
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| 21:41:00 | LinusN | i am building it as we speak, we'll see how it goes |
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| 21:41:57 | amiconn | LinusN: Building what? 3.3.1? 3.3.4? |
| 21:42:00 | LinusN | 3.3.1 |
| 21:42:14 | LinusN | having another go at it |
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| 21:42:43 | dstar5 | Smooth |
| 21:43:59 | Smooth | what |
| 21:44:18 | dstar5 | nothing |
| 21:44:26 | dstar5 | i wish tracktheripper would return :( |
| 21:44:37 | Smooth | who? |
| 21:45:07 | dstar5 | tracktheripper |
| 21:45:31 | Smooth | ? |
| 21:45:33 | uski | dj dawn powaaaa !! |
| 21:45:35 | uski | oops ;) |
| 21:45:59 | dstar5 | Smooth: you know who i am talking about sdd |
| 21:46:09 | Smooth | no i fucking well don't |
| 21:46:29 | dstar5 | yes you do |
| 21:46:57 | Smooth | no i don't |
| 21:47:12 | dstar5 | ok tracktheripper |
| 21:47:13 | dstar5 | i mean Smooth |
| 21:54:24 | dstar5 | if my new archos is here today it will be here like in the next few minutes :) |
| 21:54:58 | Smooth | ok |
| 21:55:26 | Smooth | the gmini 220 has backlit buttons |
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| 21:56:29 | dstar5 | woopty do i can navigate totaly blnk on the archos rec |
| 21:56:58 | Smooth | the gmini wipes the floor with the ipod |
| 21:57:18 | uski | well, i do have a backlight keyboard on my PC ;) |
| 21:58:29 | midk | like smoothy here |
| 21:58:55 | uski | it's very cool for IRCing in the dark ;) |
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| 22:01:42 | Smooth | Uski is that the Auravision keyboard? |
| 22:02:04 | uski | hmmm no |
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| 22:02:14 | uski | it's some nomark keyboard "generalkeys(tm)" |
| 22:02:17 | Smooth | oh ok |
| 22:02:26 | Smooth | mikeholden has gone now |
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| 22:09:16 | dstar5 | boo |
| 22:09:18 | dstar5 | not here :( |
| 22:10:58 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:14:21 | Smooth | ? |
| 22:15:02 | dstar5 | my archos |
| 22:15:37 | Smooth | ok |
| 22:15:40 | Smooth | what archos is it? |
| 22:16:09 | dstar5 | v1 rec 15 |
| 22:16:34 | Smooth | oh |
| 22:16:39 | Smooth | i badly want a gmini 220 |
| 22:16:43 | Smooth | I held one in the shop |
| 22:16:46 | Smooth | far slicker than the ipod |
| 22:17:30 | dstar5 | that sounds EXACTY like something tracktheripper would say |
| 22:21:42 | amiconn | LinusN: I tried building gcc 3.3.1 under cygwin first - no luck (stdio.h problem) |
| 22:21:59 | LinusN | yeah |
| 22:23:23 | amiconn | I also tried configuring with −−disable-nls, as Eric Lassauge did |
| 22:23:32 | LinusN | same here |
| 22:24:09 | LinusN | the official workaround is to add −−without-headers −−with-newlib to the configure command line |
| 22:24:22 | LinusN | but it still doesn't work for me :-( |
| 22:24:53 | LinusN | found it! |
| 22:25:12 | amiconn | Funny enough, the current cygwin gcc is 3.3.1, so gcc 3.3.1 isn't able to compile sh-elf-gcc 3.3.1 (!) |
| 22:25:14 | LinusN | the official workaround works for all targets but SH :-) |
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| 22:26:07 | LinusN | i'll fix this in a minute, hang on |
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| 22:34:21 | dstar5 | LinusN: has it been decided how to make more space in flash? |
| 22:34:30 | LinusN | dstar5: no |
| 22:36:22 | dstar5 | LinusN: where is dirbrowse() found? |
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| 22:38:46 | LinusN | dstar5: tree.c |
| 22:38:52 | LinusN | grep is your friend |
| 22:39:37 | amiconn | Grr, compiling gcc 3.3.4 produces the same error as 3.3.1 |
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| 22:41:40 | tcc730 | Hey all |
| 22:42:00 | amiconn | LinusN: I still wonder how Eric Lassauge got that beast to compile. |
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| 22:42:28 | tcc730 | I'm looking for a way to write my own code for my mp3 player(uses telechip tcc730) |
| 22:43:32 | amiconn | If I didn't get it wrong, sh-elf-gcc -v shows all options used to configure the build. His version show only 4 options: −−target=sh-elf −−prefix=/opt/sh1 −−enable-language=c −−disable-nls |
| 22:43:35 | LinusN | tcc730: good luck with that |
| 22:43:58 | tcc730 | Does anyone know where I could get "TCC730 Development tool"? |
| 22:44:15 | LinusN | tcc730: that's the problem, it's a proprietary chip |
| 22:44:26 | LinusN | no public documentation |
| 22:44:56 | LinusN | amiconn: there are ways around the bug |
| 22:45:10 | LinusN | you can for example compile newlib along with it |
| 22:46:35 | amiconn | The workaround you mentioned above, yes. But wouldn't it show up in the configure string retrieved with sh-elf-gcc -v, showing that you used −−with-newlib as well? |
| 22:47:08 | LinusN | well, he probably built glibc instead |
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| 22:51:19 | * | LinusN is building with newlib |
| 22:51:49 | * | amiconn is just doing the same for 3.3.4 |
| 22:52:17 | LinusN | we actually used newlib in the dawn of rockbox |
| 22:52:27 | LinusN | so building with newlib was required |
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| 23:11:00 | amiconn | LinusN: Tried building with both "−−with-newlib" and "−−without-headers −−with-newlib" - still no luck |
| 23:14:24 | amiconn | LinusN: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2004-02/msg01114.html |
| 23:17:19 | LinusN | yeah, saw that, that's why i said "the official workaround works for all targets but SH" |
| 23:17:27 | LinusN | i have now built 3.3.1 |
| 23:19:40 | LinusN | now "make install" fails :-) |
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| 23:28:25 | LinusN | hi |
| 23:31:58 | zeekoe | Alf! The brown tv-alien! |
| 23:47:50 | LinusN | amiconn: compiled and installed |
| 23:48:15 | amiconn | How did you get this to work? |
| 23:48:30 | LinusN | i built with newlib |
| 23:48:48 | LinusN | for real |
| 23:50:00 | LinusN | download newlib from here: ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/newlib/index.html |
| 23:50:23 | amiconn | How do you build newlib if you can't compile it without building the compiler first? |
| 23:50:32 | LinusN | unpack it in the same dir as you have the gcc-3.3.1 dir |
| 23:51:01 | LinusN | now you have a newlib-1.12 dir as well as a gcc-3.3.1 dir |
| 23:51:08 | LinusN | cd gcc-3.3.1 |
| 23:51:19 | LinusN | ln -s ../newlib-1.12/newlib . |
| 23:51:24 | LinusN | cd ../build.gcc |
| 23:51:40 | LinusN | or whatever your gcc build dir is named |
| 23:52:01 | LinusN | ../gcc-3.3.1/configure −−target=sh-elf −−prefix=/usr/local/sh-3.3.1 −−enable-languages=c −−with-newlib −−disable-multilib −−without-headers |
| 23:58:36 | amiconn | Trying that for gcc 3.3.4 now... |
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