| 00:05:07 | amiconn | ../../../../../../gcc-3.3.4/newlib/libc/stdlib/abs.c:40: error: parse error before '(' token |
| 00:05:10 | amiconn | :-( |
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| 00:11:15 | LinusN | really? |
| 00:11:16 | dstar5 | fix it :) |
| 00:11:47 | LinusN | amiconn: do you have binutils in the path? |
| 00:11:58 | dwihno | \o/ |
| 00:13:10 | amiconn | Just trying to build 3.3.1 that way - will still take a while |
| 00:13:33 | LinusN | 186012 bytes for the current fm recorder ajbrec.ajz |
| 00:14:32 | amiconn | Argh, forgot to symlink newlib within the gcc-3.3.1 source dir... |
| 00:14:41 | amiconn | And yes, binutils are in the path |
| 00:23:10 | LinusN | time to sleep |
| 00:23:13 | LinusN | nite all |
| 00:23:16 | amiconn | LinusN: current fm recorder ajbrec.ajz is 186052 bytes compiled with gcc 3.3.1 (Eric Lassauge) |
| 00:23:27 | LinusN | I WON!!!!!!!! |
| 00:23:40 | amiconn | I wonder why it's different... |
| 00:23:44 | LinusN | indeed |
| 00:24:15 | LinusN | gotta go, nite |
| 00:24:20 | amiconn | nite |
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| 00:25:50 | amiconn | Grr, I think I should try that another time. Trying to build gcc 3.3.1 gave the same error as 3.3.4 :-(( |
| 00:26:21 | amiconn | brb |
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| 05:05:54 | Frag4Christ | wondering if anyone here knows about moded or hacked firmware for the iriver ihp120 |
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| 08:09:16 | unionpeak | anyone here active |
| 08:09:29 | midk | me |
| 08:10:04 | unionpeak | hey i gotta question for ya...how come on the recorder v2 when you have the volume up 95 or higher the sound gets real distorted is that hardware or headphones |
| 08:10:11 | unionpeak | because ive tried with a couple pairs |
| 08:10:23 | midk | check your bass / bass boost settings |
| 08:10:25 | midk | and loudness. |
| 08:10:35 | unionpeak | what should they be around |
| 08:10:48 | midk | bass is usually 6-8db for me |
| 08:11:09 | midk | loudness and bass boost set both to 0 and change until it sounds good really |
| 08:11:50 | midk | back in an hour or so. |
| 08:11:56 | unionpeak | ok also is there anything you can to to prevent skipping |
| 08:12:06 | midk | there is an anti-shock protection |
| 08:12:14 | midk | i believe under general settings, playback |
| 08:12:16 | midk | bbl. |
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| 08:17:28 | LinusN | unionpeak: still there? |
| 08:18:35 | unionpeak | yeah |
| 08:18:56 | unionpeak | whats up |
| 08:21:18 | LinusN | just wanted to explain your problem |
| 08:21:49 | LinusN | the audio chip (the MAS3587F) does all EQ stuff |
| 08:22:26 | LinusN | and it poses some restrictions on the settings, which Rockbox frankly doesn't care about |
| 08:22:48 | unionpeak | gotcha |
| 08:23:16 | LinusN | max(bass, treble) + Loudness + Volume <= 0dB |
| 08:23:36 | LinusN | volume is in percent in Rockbox, but 92% os 0dB |
| 08:24:00 | LinusN | so any volume above 0dB *might* overflow the DSP |
| 08:24:37 | LinusN | and if you add bass, treble and loudness, you will be way off limits |
| 08:24:49 | unionpeak | yeah i understand any way of getting around that |
| 08:25:21 | LinusN | many MP3:s are encoded with a pretty low gain, so there is often a quite big margin for overflow |
| 08:25:53 | LinusN | i am planning to add a warning when the settings are above the limit |
| 08:26:17 | unionpeak | ok yeah thats probably a good idea |
| 08:26:27 | LinusN | (been planning that for a long time, but things always get in the way :-) |
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| 08:28:23 | unionpeak | as for the skip protection i set it at 7 seconds now is that decent enough to run with in a pocket |
| 08:28:51 | midk | it should be fine even without it. but it could help |
| 08:28:58 | midk | i can't say for sure. you have to try it |
| 08:29:23 | unionpeak | yeah cuz that thing will just stop and not start playing again i have to turn off then on again |
| 08:29:36 | midk | red led dead? |
| 08:29:39 | unionpeak | yeah |
| 08:29:46 | midk | that's not fixable really.. |
| 08:30:01 | unionpeak | yeah is it worth it to put the extra buffer memory in |
| 08:30:10 | LinusN | unionpeak: which version or rockbox are you using? |
| 08:30:23 | LinusN | unionpeak: it has nothing to do with buffer memory |
| 08:30:50 | unionpeak | hmm cvs0407025 |
| 08:31:06 | LinusN | does it hang often? |
| 08:31:50 | LinusN | btw, using a hard drive based player for running is a really bad idea |
| 08:31:55 | unionpeak | whenever im running sometimes when i walk |
| 08:31:58 | unionpeak | yeah i realize that |
| 08:32:06 | unionpeak | not my main use |
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| 08:32:31 | LinusN | you could do a test for me if you wish |
| 08:32:37 | unionpeak | sure |
| 08:33:01 | LinusN | i'll compile a special version of today's daily and put it up for download |
| 08:33:09 | LinusN | hang on |
| 08:33:55 | unionpeak | ya know what i hate to tell you but my friend is borrowing my cord today ill try it tomarrow and post results though |
| 08:35:02 | LinusN | don't worry |
| 08:35:10 | LinusN | i'll give you the link in a minute |
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| 08:36:46 | LinusN | this special build turns off the ATA driver optimizations |
| 08:37:14 | unionpeak | ok |
| 08:37:51 | LinusN | it won't be a noticeable difference in speed |
| 08:38:51 | LinusN | http://linus.haxx.se/unionpeak_test.zip |
| 08:39:34 | unionpeak | ok cool ill try it tomarrow |
| 08:39:40 | LinusN | thanks |
| 08:39:44 | unionpeak | and this may help with the skipping |
| 08:39:54 | unionpeak | or stopping i guess would be a better word |
| 08:39:58 | LinusN | it could help |
| 08:40:04 | LinusN | but not necessarily |
| 08:40:16 | LinusN | the main problem is your hard drive |
| 08:40:38 | LinusN | you probably have a DK23DA or DK23CA drive in your jukebox |
| 08:40:40 | unionpeak | yeah well i guess any hd bumping around in my pocket would have problems |
| 08:40:56 | LinusN | do you have it in front of you? |
| 08:41:34 | unionpeak | yeah |
| 08:41:45 | LinusN | menu->info->debug->disk info |
| 08:42:27 | unionpeak | dk23da-20 |
| 08:42:35 | LinusN | how did i know? :-) |
| 08:42:36 | unionpeak | damn you know your stuff |
| 08:43:10 | LinusN | you're not the only one with this problem |
| 08:43:11 | unionpeak | well i guess theres nothing i can really do about that though |
| 08:43:22 | LinusN | you can of course replace the hard drive |
| 08:43:46 | LinusN | unfortunately, it takes some soldering skills on the v2 recorder |
| 08:44:03 | unionpeak | i can solder but what kind of hd is that small |
| 08:44:19 | LinusN | no, the soldering is only to remove the casing |
| 08:44:44 | LinusN | the chassis is soldered to the PCB for grounding |
| 08:44:51 | unionpeak | no i know but what kind of hd would i have to get |
| 08:44:51 | LinusN | so it's fairly easy |
| 08:44:59 | LinusN | ah |
| 08:45:16 | LinusN | as slow rotation speed as possible |
| 08:45:25 | LinusN | like 4000 rpm |
| 08:45:32 | LinusN | 9.5mm thick |
| 08:45:36 | LinusN | 2.5" |
| 08:45:53 | LinusN | any laptop hard drive will do |
| 08:46:04 | LinusN | i recommend toshiba |
| 08:46:39 | LinusN | be aware, there are 12mm thick drives too, and they won't fit |
| 08:48:55 | unionpeak | yeah |
| 08:49:01 | unionpeak | i dunno maybe ill give it a shot |
| 08:49:29 | unionpeak | thanks alot for all the help though man |
| 08:49:58 | LinusN | you're welcome |
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| 08:55:30 | amiconn | hi all |
| 08:56:28 | amiconn | I just saw a new case of a maybe-problem with optimized ata & dreaded Hitachi DK23DA in the logs :-( |
| 08:59:37 | amiconn | LinusN: I found a bug in the handling of .lng files |
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| 09:00:42 | amiconn | If you start with the built-in language string and then load a .lng file (no matter whether it contains all strings or not), all is fine |
| 09:00:56 | amiconn | (displaying the bu |
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| 09:01:23 | amiconn | (displaying the built-in strings for those not contained in the .lng file) |
| 09:03:31 | amiconn | But: If you first load a complete .lng file (already updated english.lng in my case) and afterwards load an incomplete .lng file (not yet updated deutsch.lng) whose strings also take more space, the menu entries using the strings not contained in the secong .lng file show garbage |
| 09:03:41 | LinusN | yeah i know |
| 09:04:09 | amiconn | It's of course clear _why_ that occurs, but I'm not sure whether we should fix that |
| 09:04:32 | amiconn | ...since it would occupy more memory |
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| 09:06:49 | amiconn | (not for rombox, but for normal ram-based execution) |
| 09:10:10 | LinusN | the obvious fix is of course to keep a copy of the language_strings[] array |
| 09:10:39 | LinusN | and restore it before loading a new language |
| 09:11:49 | amiconn | Yes of course; this is what would require more memory |
| 09:12:40 | LinusN | ...but the bug will only appear when you have a "soft" language already loaded |
| 09:12:57 | LinusN | so i don't see this as much of a problem |
| 09:13:08 | LinusN | i agree with you |
| 09:14:13 | LinusN | 374 strings times 4 bytes... |
| 09:14:35 | LinusN | there goes the v2 rombox again :-) |
| 09:15:00 | amiconn | As I said, this is no problem for rombox |
| 09:15:22 | LinusN | why not? |
| 09:15:54 | amiconn | Currently, the .lang string pointers are in the .data section, therefore contained in the firmware file and copied to ram on boot |
| 09:16:05 | LinusN | on boot, yes |
| 09:16:39 | amiconn | If we would keep a copy, this one would of course go into .rodata (still contained in the binary, but not copied by crt0.S) |
| 09:16:59 | amiconn | The copy would _only_ exist in ram, being part of the .bss section |
| 09:17:07 | LinusN | ah, you mean it's not a problem with flash memory space |
| 09:17:30 | LinusN | i thought you mean that the bug didn't exist |
| 09:17:32 | amiconn | Yes, and also not with ram consumption (for rombox) |
| 09:17:33 | LinusN | meant |
| 09:18:11 | amiconn | I meant the fix wouldn't require more memory when running from rom |
| 09:18:16 | LinusN | i see |
| 09:24:18 | amiconn | While being no problem with normal use of rockbox, it may hit if someone tries out several .lng files in sequence (and does not look very professional) |
| 09:24:40 | amiconn | Many languages are incomplete today, having no active maintainer(s) |
| 09:27:14 | LinusN | so we should probably keep a copy in rodata then... |
| 09:33:09 | amiconn | Ok, I'll see if I can do that (iiuc this requires modifying the genlang script) |
| 09:33:43 | amiconn | Different topic: I found some quirks with the simulator builds |
| 09:34:16 | amiconn | (1) For the Win32 sims, "make clean" doesn't remove libplugin.a |
| 09:35:03 | amiconn | (2) For the X11 sim, "make clean" doesn't remove rockboxui.exe (cygwin) |
| 09:35:22 | amiconn | (3) The X11 sim currently doesn't build, at least under cygwin: |
| 09:37:19 | amiconn | /home/Administrator/rb-patched/uisimulator/x11/../x11/screenhack.c:480: variable '_XtShellStrings' can't be auto-imported. Please read the documentation for ld's −−enable-auto-import for details. |
| 09:38:11 | amiconn | This repeats many times with several other lines in screenhack.c, and ends in |
| 09:38:12 | amiconn | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 09:38:12 | amiconn | make[1]: *** [/home/Administrator/rb-patched/x11sim-recorder/rockboxui] Error 1 |
| 09:38:12 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK amiconn |
| 09:38:12 | amiconn | make: *** [sim] Error 2 |
| 09:38:43 | LinusN | 1) is fixed now |
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| 09:40:03 | midk | assdfk. |
| 09:40:10 | midk | it's the nick stealer! |
| 09:40:13 | LinusN | hi phil |
| 09:40:50 | kurzhaarrocker | hi LinusN! I just received your mail |
| 09:41:17 | kurzhaarrocker | but now I didn't steal any 'mid' , midk :) |
| 09:41:52 | kurzhaarrocker | Of course I would be honored to have the split editor included in the rockbox cvs |
| 09:41:58 | LinusN | amiconn: 2) is fixed |
| 09:42:27 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: nice! |
| 09:42:46 | LinusN | i'm currently looking at the volume trigger |
| 09:42:56 | kurzhaarrocker | But unfortunately the code is extremly alpha, it extends the plugin api which is unnecessary with the mp3 api extension by [IDC]Dragon |
| 09:42:57 | midk | kurz: :) |
| 09:43:07 | kurzhaarrocker | LinusN: Do you have my trigger code? |
| 09:43:15 | LinusN | i have the old patch |
| 09:43:26 | LinusN | in the tracker |
| 09:43:42 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 09:43:42 | * | kurzhaarrocker glimpses at the tracker |
| 09:43:46 | LinusN | i'd like to discuss the peak meter code |
| 09:44:08 | kurzhaarrocker | Shoot. |
| 09:44:21 | LinusN | it currently has a lot of settings |
| 09:44:38 | LinusN | the first i'd like to remove is probably the performance setting |
| 09:44:46 | LinusN | i know you agree with that |
| 09:45:00 | LinusN | but is there anything else we can simplify? |
| 09:45:08 | kurzhaarrocker | I do agree with that as long as it is the 'high performance' that remains :) |
| 09:45:13 | LinusN | of course |
| 09:45:56 | kurzhaarrocker | I hardly ever adjust the maximum value. I think we could tie it to 0db / 100% fixed. |
| 09:46:15 | LinusN | not even in the split editor? |
| 09:47:03 | kurzhaarrocker | In that editor it proved surprisingly efficiant to toggle db / % display. If that doesn't help adjusting the max doesn't help much either. |
| 09:47:15 | LinusN | good |
| 09:47:50 | LinusN | i remember that we were discussing the resolution of the retro buffer |
| 09:48:09 | kurzhaarrocker | Talking about trigger? :) |
| 09:48:13 | LinusN | yes |
| 09:49:34 | kurzhaarrocker | Do you want to change that resolution? |
| 09:50:06 | LinusN | no, i remember that we wanted to increase the resolution to make it easier for the trigger to backtrack |
| 09:51:48 | kurzhaarrocker | Ah yes, I think the goal was to make it happen on frame boundaries. |
| 09:52:16 | LinusN | yes, and you were having problems with the split points |
| 09:52:31 | LinusN | due to the latency in the trigger |
| 09:53:26 | kurzhaarrocker | Yes, that triggers something in my mind. I haven't seen my code for many months... |
| 09:53:27 | kurzhaarrocker | Do you have ideas for fixing that? |
| 09:54:20 | LinusN | as of now, the split points will have a 1s resolution |
| 09:54:48 | LinusN | and i vaguely remember that this was a problem |
| 09:54:51 | kurzhaarrocker | (btw: if you have tried that patch from the patch-tracker: does it show traffic light symbol in the recording screen when the trigger is active?) |
| 09:55:36 | LinusN | i haven't tried it, but from looking at the code it doesn't |
| 09:57:10 | LinusN | and it doesn't change anything in mpeg.c |
| 09:57:55 | LinusN | amiconn: issue 3) is totally unknown to me |
| 09:58:11 | kurzhaarrocker | That code should reside somwhere in recording.c (?) Where the recording screen is implemented. |
| 09:59:25 | kurzhaarrocker | Concerning trigger: it was that I had quite a noticable 'random' factor in the trigger which I could not explain and which was to big to be explained by mp3 frame boundaries. |
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| 10:01:01 | LinusN | i remember now |
| 10:01:50 | LinusN | in the patch, it displays messages, not symbols |
| 10:02:12 | kurzhaarrocker | It was not the granularity of the prebuffer, the problem was finding the correct frame that is closest to the desired trigger point. |
| 10:02:33 | LinusN | yeah, and i also remember that we found out what it was... |
| 10:02:46 | kurzhaarrocker | LinusN: you're god! :) |
| 10:02:53 | LinusN | but i can't see it being addressed in the tracker patch |
| 10:02:53 | kurzhaarrocker | (I don't remember) |
| 10:03:36 | LinusN | in fact, the patch doesn't even try to find a closer point |
| 10:03:53 | kurzhaarrocker | I obvioulsy haven't submitted my latest code to the tracker. |
| 10:12:47 | webmind_ | morning |
| 10:12:48 | kurzhaarrocker | :( Seems even the patch in http://carangg.de/rockbox/splitedit_rec.zip is not up to date. But it at least contains that function mpeg_get_file_pos. |
| 10:13:07 | webmind_ | hm, can't the irc log be blocked for google ? |
| 10:13:21 | LinusN | webmind_: my would we want that? |
| 10:13:51 | kurzhaarrocker | webmind_ that's easy: just kick logbot :) |
| 10:15:48 | webmind_ | no ops |
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| 10:16:18 | LinusN | webmind: we want the logs to be indexed |
| 10:16:30 | LinusN | why don't you want it? |
| 10:17:04 | webmind | because my nick keeps turning up on google.. for unrelated topics.. just because I've mentioned them in here |
| 10:17:53 | LinusN | tough luck |
| 10:17:54 | webmind | you could just add a search function to the site no ? |
| 10:18:16 | LinusN | we use google for searching the site |
| 10:18:24 | webmind | I got that |
| 10:18:38 | webmind | but do you need it for searching the logs? |
| 10:18:41 | LinusN | the search function on the front page uses the "site:" feature of google |
| 10:18:52 | webmind | yeah |
| 10:19:09 | LinusN | we could just as well use our own search engine |
| 10:19:39 | webmind | so why not ? |
| 10:19:48 | kurzhaarrocker | ... and let google investigate that search engine? :) |
| 10:19:49 | LinusN | we like when google finds us |
| 10:20:11 | LinusN | openness is one of rockbox main virtues |
| 10:20:38 | webmind | yeah... that true |
| 10:21:06 | webmind | but now when you search for unrelated topics the site still turns up because of the logs |
| 10:21:07 | kurzhaarrocker | And it's a way for attention seeking nerds to gain publicity.. |
| 10:21:08 | LinusN | the irc logs are of course a problem for google |
| 10:21:49 | webmind | I'm not pro blocking the site completely for google btw.. just the logs |
| 10:21:52 | LinusN | because they contain much "unrelated" stuff |
| 10:22:56 | LinusN | i'll discuss it with the rest of the crew |
| 10:23:16 | webmind | cool, thanks |
| 10:23:27 | LinusN | but don't hold your breath |
| 10:23:51 | webmind | k |
| 10:24:02 | webmind | good enough anyway |
| 10:24:34 | LinusN | searching for "webmind irc" rates the rockbox irc logs first :-) |
| 10:25:28 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: care to send me the latest stuff? |
| 10:25:56 | kurzhaarrocker | I'm @ work right now, the code is @ home. I'll mail you tonight. |
| 10:26:26 | LinusN | wonderful |
| 10:28:38 | kurzhaarrocker | Concerning the split editor: it nearly needs a rewrite due to [IDC]Dragon's mp3 api extensions |
| 10:30:54 | webmind | LinusN, yeah.. so does webmind and zaurus |
| 10:32:09 | amiconn | (back) |
| 10:32:26 | kurzhaarrocker | Is there anybody (LinusN) willing to do that rewrite? :) |
| 10:32:51 | amiconn | LinusN: I tried building the X11 sim again, after a fresh configure. Still the same problem |
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| 10:36:57 | amiconn | I can send you the output of make (make >file 2>&1) |
| 10:43:28 | LinusN | amiconn: issue 3)? |
| 10:43:41 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: i'll do the rewrite |
| 10:43:56 | kurzhaarrocker | you're a masochist, LinusN |
| 10:44:07 | LinusN | is it that much different? |
| 10:44:27 | LinusN | ah, you don't use the "raw" playback api |
| 10:44:38 | kurzhaarrocker | not a single bit of it :( |
| 10:45:01 | kurzhaarrocker | the split editor was before the raw playback |
| 10:45:03 | LinusN | then how do you loop? |
| 10:45:35 | LinusN | i see now |
| 10:45:43 | LinusN | but does it need a rewrite for that? |
| 10:45:45 | kurzhaarrocker | ugly he? :) |
| 10:47:10 | LinusN | you don't split at frame boundaries, do you? |
| 10:47:27 | kurzhaarrocker | I'd like to avoid the plugin api extension that were required for that |
| 10:47:53 | LinusN | why? |
| 10:48:01 | kurzhaarrocker | yes frameboundaries were still a todo. |
| 10:48:22 | LinusN | ok, so it would be better to rewrite it with the raw api |
| 10:48:36 | LinusN | then we could have the entire loop in memory |
| 10:49:10 | LinusN | and it would be easy to find the split points |
| 10:49:20 | LinusN | frame boundaries, i mean |
| 10:49:39 | kurzhaarrocker | do we have a function that finds frame boundaries in bitswapped data yet? |
| 10:49:54 | LinusN | jörg wrote one |
| 10:50:00 | amiconn | LinusN: Yes, issue 3 |
| 10:50:10 | kurzhaarrocker | So that should be a peace of cake then :9 |
| 10:50:12 | LinusN | amiconn: i have no idea what it is |
| 10:50:25 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: it's done in a coffee break |
| 10:50:37 | LinusN | blindfolded |
| 10:51:36 | LinusN | amiconn: we still have problems with files being created with the wrong umask on cygwin, if the are created with open(O_CREAT) |
| 10:52:43 | * | kurzhaarrocker decorates LinusN's cake with some extra cream. He deserves it. |
| 10:53:23 | midk | uhh |
| 10:53:59 | midk | that sounded a little wrong there kurz.. ;] |
| 10:54:31 | kurzhaarrocker | ? Did I unwillingly make a pun I don't understand? |
| 10:55:13 | midk | i guess so. |
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| 11:00:47 | LinusN | amiconn: regarding issue 3, is it really a problem? who uses the x11 sim in cygwin? |
| 11:01:03 | LinusN | or did you just try it for "fun"? |
| 11:03:49 | amiconn | Just tested if building that still works. Plus, it is a bit more user-friendly than the Win32 sim. For instance, the Win32 sim uses a window that does neither show up in the task bar nor is accessible via alt+tab |
| 11:04:24 | LinusN | amiconn: in the current cvs build as well? i thought i fixed that! |
| 11:04:55 | amiconn | LinusN: http://arnold-j.bei.t-online.de/Rockbox/x11sim-make.log |
| 11:05:11 | LinusN | i mean the win32sim taskbar thing |
| 11:06:09 | amiconn | Ah ok. Didn't notice that. It works for current cvs. Still, the X11 sim has the advantage to enlarge the screen image |
| 11:06:31 | LinusN | the win32 sim does that too |
| 11:06:43 | amiconn | And it does not use that Photo background, which is misleading for fm, v2 and player |
| 11:06:48 | LinusN | you just have to drag it far enough |
| 11:07:00 | LinusN | 'yeah i really dislike the image |
| 11:07:38 | LinusN | but we have left it there, because so many people prefer eye candy before usability |
| 11:08:25 | kurzhaarrocker | I remember someone wrote a demo for an icon ui for rockbox. I liked that. |
| 11:08:36 | LinusN | bluechip added an option in his sim fix, that toggles the background |
| 11:08:55 | LinusN | dwihno did that iirc |
| 11:09:10 | amiconn | The idea behind using the image isn't that bad, but imho doing it properly would require some changes: |
| 11:09:14 | LinusN | we discussed that on the latest devcon |
| 11:09:45 | LinusN | like different images for different targets |
| 11:10:09 | amiconn | (1) The image can be clipped to only contain the display and buttons, everyting outside that area is clutter |
| 11:10:33 | amiconn | (2) There should be different images for a) player, b) recorder, c) v2/fm |
| 11:10:34 | LinusN | i think it should be a virtual image, with symbolic buttons instead of a picture |
| 11:10:47 | LinusN | just to show the layout |
| 11:11:10 | amiconn | (3) The buttons in the image should be clickable buttons |
| 11:11:12 | LinusN | and they should be clickable |
| 11:11:15 | LinusN | :-) |
| 11:11:18 | amiconn | :-) |
| 11:11:43 | LinusN | i wish some clever windows coder could help us with that |
| 11:11:57 | LinusN | but do they exist? :-) |
| 11:12:11 | * | LinusN ducks |
| 11:12:16 | kurzhaarrocker | you could record the click sound with the internal mic of the recorder and play that back when clicking the virtual button... |
| 11:12:30 | amiconn | Unfortunately I'm not that clever in Windows coding, only did use VB so far |
| 11:12:58 | LinusN | clever people don't write windows code :-) |
| 11:13:01 | * | LinusN hides |
| 11:13:29 | kurzhaarrocker | <- stupid |
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| 11:20:51 | kurzhaarrocker | Do you need any info from me now, LinusN? |
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| 11:23:54 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: i don't think i need more, just send me the code when you get home |
| 11:24:05 | kurzhaarrocker | ok. cu. |
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| 11:24:11 | LinusN | i'll remove the performance and top level options |
| 11:25:02 | midk | LinusN, you should replace performance with an FPS menu. |
| 11:25:22 | LinusN | that won't help us much would it? |
| 11:25:43 | LinusN | the point of the exercice it to reduce the number of options |
| 11:26:16 | midk | yes.. why? |
| 11:26:21 | midk | to save space? |
| 11:26:39 | LinusN | because there are an overwhelming number of options in rockbox |
| 11:27:20 | midk | that's what i like about it, you can fine tune things - example, you can set the scroll step and speed, and delay, instead of just "Scroll slow" or "scroll fast" |
| 11:27:44 | midk | i think a good idea is an FPS menu instead of the performance menu. but that's just me |
| 11:27:46 | LinusN | yes, but do you? |
| 11:28:04 | midk | do i set the settings? yes. |
| 11:28:36 | midk | speaking of which, i think you should up the maximum scroll speed in hz from 10 to 20 or 25 |
| 11:29:44 | LinusN | doesn't the lcd get completely blurred at that speed? |
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| 11:30:08 | midk | not for i.. depends on the contrast, the font etc |
| 11:30:27 | midk | with my font and contrast it looks fine. i like 1px step and about 20hz speed.. |
| 11:30:44 | midk | there is a small blur but that's definitely ok to me |
| 11:34:16 | midk | nite evb |
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| 11:45:09 | Tobi | hi |
| 11:45:15 | LinusN | hi |
| 11:45:32 | Tobi | I have an idea to decrease the rombox size |
| 11:45:45 | LinusN | shoot |
| 11:46:00 | Tobi | Can you move the rename file feature into a plugin? |
| 11:46:28 | LinusN | of course, but that wouldn't save us much space would it? |
| 11:46:46 | Tobi | I don't know how large it is |
| 11:46:57 | LinusN | it's unfortunately very small |
| 11:47:03 | Tobi | ok, bad idea |
| 11:47:06 | Tobi | :-( |
| 11:47:19 | LinusN | better luck next time :-) |
| 11:47:24 | Tobi | thanks |
| 11:47:45 | LinusN | but there might be other things we can convert to plugins |
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| 12:04:21 | LinusN | lunch time |
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| 13:36:08 | kurzhaarrocker | midk|sleeping do you really sleep? |
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| 13:39:42 | kurzhaarrocker | ok. He's not sleeping, he's dead. |
| 13:46:37 | kurzhaarrocker | LinusN in case you run out of arguments against an fps setting in the peakmeter: It doesn't really improve anything. With 20 fps the thing looks smooth enough and for increasing the reliability of the peak detection the readouts / sec is the critical parameter. Fps and readouts / sec are independent. |
| 13:46:56 | LinusN | i'm aware of that |
| 13:47:00 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
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| 15:14:00 | amiconn | LinusN: I still wonder what the build problem with the X11 sim on cygwin is. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I updated my cygwin installation 2 days ago? |
| 15:18:54 | LinusN | i have no idea |
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| 15:58:25 | amiconn | LinusN: Found the cause. Obviously the binutils installed with my latest cygwin update had a bug. There was now a new version available, which lets me compile the X11 sim without errors. |
| 15:58:44 | LinusN | good |
| 15:59:13 | amiconn | It still throws some messages prefixed with Info: on stderr though |
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| 16:00:05 | amiconn | Info: resolving _XtShellStrings by linking to __imp__XtShellStrings (auto-import) |
| 16:00:06 | amiconn | Info: resolving _XtStrings by linking to __imp__XtStrings (auto-import) |
| 16:00:06 | amiconn | Info: resolving _topLevelShellWidgetClass by linking to __imp__topLevelShellWidgetClass (auto-import) |
| 16:00:35 | amiconn | The compiled simulator does work. |
| 16:02:39 | LinusN | nice |
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| 17:35:10 | maedhros_ | I hate partitioning new drives. |
| 17:35:39 | maedhros_ | I never know how much space I'll need on the different partitions |
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| 17:41:24 | maedhros_ | Can the archos really handle more than 32 GB of music? Since it requires fat32, I mean? |
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| 17:48:53 | dstar5 | maedhros_: yes |
| 17:49:03 | dstar5 | fat32 does not matter |
| 17:49:03 | kurzhaarrocker | Installations with 60 GB drives have bee reported, maedhros_ |
| 17:49:17 | dstar5 | i have heard reports of 80gb |
| 17:49:21 | maedhros_ | how? |
| 17:49:50 | maedhros_ | you can't have a fat32 partition bigger than 32gigs, can you? |
| 17:52:54 | kurzhaarrocker | hm personally I don't remember wether I ever had a partition > 32 GB. |
| 17:59:05 | dstar5 | i have a 160 gb NTFS partition :) |
| 17:59:31 | dstar5 | maedhros_: yes you can |
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| 18:00:20 | kurzhaarrocker | my biggest drive is 40 GB. Seems I'm becoming old... |
| 18:02:07 | maedhros_ | HOw do you do that? In XP, once the partition is more that 32768 MB's, the option to format to FAT32 disappears... |
| 18:04:39 | kurzhaarrocker | You could try other tools. e.g. knoppix. Though I don't know whether that can handle bigger partitions. |
| 18:10:31 | amiconn | maedhros_: You _can_ have fat32 partitions larger than 32 GB, only braindead XP doesn't allow you to create one (but if created by other means, it will happily handle it) |
| 18:10:45 | elinenbe | kurzhaarrocker: hey there... long time no see! |
| 18:10:56 | elinenbe | but I liked langhaarrocker better |
| 18:11:03 | dstar5 | you can use partition magic |
| 18:11:35 | kurzhaarrocker | well, elinenbe I need a barber soon or I'll be langhaarrocker soon again :) |
| 18:11:50 | amiconn | I upgraded my Jukebox to 80 GB (single partition). I created the partition with Win98, which doesn't have such a limitation |
| 18:13:35 | amiconn | Iirc fat32 allows partitions up to 128 TB. |
| 18:15:52 | kurzhaarrocker | At a rate of 128 kBit how long will the party last with 128 TB? ;) |
| 18:16:29 | amiconn | kurzhaarrocker: Imho not really long, since 128 kbps isn't fun to listen to with most music |
| 18:17:15 | kurzhaarrocker | With the archos hardware 128kBit is not the weak link in the signal chain. |
| 18:17:20 | elinenbe | brb |
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| 18:18:57 | amiconn | kurzhaarrocker: I can definitely hear the difference between 128 kbps and 160 kbps (and depending on the music, even between 160 kbps and higher values) when using the archos as a source when using e.g. decent headphones |
| 18:20:38 | kurzhaarrocker | amiconn maybe your ears are damaged. Then it's easier to hear the differences. |
| 18:21:41 | dstar5 | i recomend 192 |
| 18:21:45 | amiconn | I don't think my ears are damaged. |
| 18:22:52 | amiconn | I usually encode my stuff with lame −−preset standard, which comes out at ~210 kbps on average |
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| 18:30:05 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: i don't believe you ever had long hair, you have short hair on all the pics on your site |
| 18:30:21 | kurzhaarrocker | Have a look at the comic |
| 18:30:41 | kurzhaarrocker | http://carangg.de/comic/sound/sound.php |
| 18:30:55 | LinusN | aaaah |
| 18:31:03 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 18:31:43 | LinusN | hahaha |
| 18:32:08 | LinusN | i zoomed around in your studio, and for a moment i thought you have saved my day |
| 18:32:23 | LinusN | i thought you had a tascam 234 recorder |
| 18:32:49 | kurzhaarrocker | Sorry no. We started with hd recording directly :) |
| 18:33:04 | LinusN | you spoiled kids :-) |
| 18:33:27 | kurzhaarrocker | Well one of our guitar players tries to sell his old 4-track |
| 18:33:51 | LinusN | if it's a tascam 234, i'll buy it |
| 18:33:52 | kurzhaarrocker | http://robert.carangg.de/index.php?galery=.&selected=.%2FYamaha.jpg& |
| 18:34:19 | * | LinusN has lots of old studio recordings he wants to save |
| 18:34:48 | kurzhaarrocker | Are you still active as musician? |
| 18:35:16 | LinusN | no |
| 18:35:48 | kurzhaarrocker | Let me guess: Family eats all the time and is even mad at rockbox? ;) |
| 18:36:00 | LinusN | hehe |
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| 18:36:31 | LinusN | good guess, but i stopped playing even before i started a family |
| 18:36:44 | kurzhaarrocker | That's a clever move. |
| 18:36:56 | kurzhaarrocker | Btw: has your wife experienced any improvements? |
| 18:37:08 | LinusN | unfortunately not |
| 18:37:35 | kurzhaarrocker | Gosh, that's a tough destiny. |
| 18:37:44 | LinusN | indeed |
| 18:38:07 | LinusN | somehow, in an odd way, you get used to it |
| 18:38:27 | kurzhaarrocker | Usually I like odd ways - but not always. |
| 18:38:31 | LinusN | it's not like you have a choice |
| 18:40:02 | LinusN | btw, could you send me the source code? |
| 18:40:34 | kurzhaarrocker | If I was at home I could. But momentarily I'm still waiting for a collegue to commit some stuff... |
| 18:41:46 | LinusN | ah |
| 18:42:32 | kurzhaarrocker | I'll be on vacation next week. And I really need it. I've started dreaming in Java again. |
| 18:43:07 | LinusN | :-) |
| 18:43:16 | LinusN | my vacation starts next week too |
| 18:43:39 | kurzhaarrocker | Do you travel somewhere? |
| 18:44:21 | LinusN | i'll go to the west coast of sweden, my inlaws have a house on an island there |
| 18:44:37 | LinusN | lots of fishing |
| 18:45:18 | kurzhaarrocker | And lots of mitches (or how do you spell those nasty insects?)? |
| 18:45:36 | LinusN | mosquitos? |
| 18:46:01 | kurzhaarrocker | ah yes. |
| 18:47:04 | kurzhaarrocker | <- plans a trip to Austria. I haven't been paragliding all the year. What a shame. |
| 18:54:02 | dstar5 | yes! |
| 18:54:06 | dstar5 | my archos is here |
| 18:54:56 | kurzhaarrocker | and did you flash it already? :) |
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| 18:56:20 | dstar5 | n/m |
| 18:56:24 | dstar5 | it was someything else |
| 18:56:31 | dstar5 | i got excited when i saw the UPS |
| 18:56:32 | dstar5 | lol |
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| 20:28:08 | Bilob | Hi @all!!! |
| 20:28:42 | LinusN | hi |
| 20:29:28 | Bilob | I'm a newby here in rockbox! Got an Archos since yesterday! |
| 20:30:33 | LinusN | congrats |
| 20:31:34 | Bilob | Is this an only english speakin channel? |
| 20:33:08 | LinusN | yes |
| 20:33:47 | Bilob | No Problem! |
| 20:34:01 | Bilob | Which Archos do you have? |
| 20:34:16 | LinusN | i have two studios, one v1 recorder and one fm recorder |
| 20:35:07 | Bilob | I have Jukebox recorfer v2 |
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| 20:36:24 | Bilob | I was first thinking about buying an Apple iPod but then i heard about the possibility to flash, and i took the archos! |
| 20:36:33 | LinusN | good choice |
| 20:38:37 | Bilob | Now i will have to inform myself a bit about rockbox on the page! |
| 20:38:42 | LinusN | do so |
| 20:38:56 | LinusN | enjoy |
| 20:39:45 | Bilob | Thanx! |
| 20:57:21 | Bilob | Does the V2 charge while being in USB and working? |
| 20:58:40 | LinusN | yes |
| 20:59:01 | LinusN | but if the hard drive is working constantly, the charging current won't be enough |
| 20:59:09 | LinusN | so it will still drain the batteries |
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| 21:01:05 | Smooth | Hi |
| 21:01:16 | maedhros_ | Let's say I've got two drained out batteries, and two fuully charged. Will the jbr notice, and start charging? |
| 21:02:15 | LinusN | maedhros_: yes |
| 21:02:29 | LinusN | but why do you have batteries with different charge? |
| 21:03:34 | maedhros_ | I've used two of them for som othe purpose |
| 21:03:54 | LinusN | ok |
| 21:04:22 | Bilob | Thanks! |
| 21:04:27 | Smooth | wheres the sort by id3 tag in the latest build? |
| 21:04:32 | Bilob | Have to leave now! By! |
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| 21:04:56 | LinusN | Smooth: which sort by id3 tag? |
| 21:05:11 | Smooth | New option, ID3 tag order |
| 21:05:39 | LinusN | yes, you can choose which tag is loaded first, V1 or V2 |
| 21:05:47 | LinusN | in the WPS |
| 21:05:58 | LinusN | has nothing to do with sorting |
| 21:06:06 | Smooth | ok |
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| 21:34:30 | Smooth | who has a gmini here? |
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| 22:31:00 | hld | hello |
| 22:31:05 | LinusN | hi |
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| 22:36:39 | hld | do you know where to get the recorder 2 models in germany? (cheap) :) |
| 22:37:04 | LinusN | ebay? |
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| 22:37:51 | hld | hmmm, there aren't much old recorders... they just sell new ones (V2) |
| 22:38:09 | LinusN | midk|bbiab: bbiab? Be Back In A ... Balloon? |
| 22:38:28 | hld | bit |
| 22:38:38 | LinusN | ah :-) |
| 22:38:59 | hld | is 199¤ a good deal? |
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| 22:39:25 | LinusN | for a new one, well, ok i guess |
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| 22:39:56 | hld | i hope it's the one with digi-in/out |
| 22:40:11 | LinusN | only V1 has both in and out |
| 22:40:33 | LinusN | V2/FM has only in |
| 22:41:32 | hld | yep, i want a V1 |
| 22:43:50 | hld | amazon only has v2 ;( |
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| 23:34:07 | zeekoe | anyone here knowing how to scandisk my jukebox drive? |
| 23:34:18 | zeekoe | yesterday the batteries passed out while writing a file |
| 23:34:30 | zeekoe | i don't know if everything is fine |
| 23:34:39 | maedhros_ | start scandisk normally? with the jukebox plugged in? |
| 23:35:02 | zeekoe | it just says "Disk Check complete" |
| 23:35:08 | zeekoe | after about one second |
| 23:35:41 | maedhros_ | if you got win98, you could just crash windows |
| 23:35:45 | zeekoe | ? |
| 23:35:50 | maedhros_ | that should do the trick |
| 23:35:56 | zeekoe | and then have it scan the next time it boots? |
| 23:35:56 | zeekoe | :P |
| 23:35:59 | zeekoe | i have xp |
| 23:36:04 | maedhros_ | k |
| 23:36:28 | zeekoe | so it should just work? |
| 23:36:36 | maedhros_ | i don't even remember how to start scandisk. haven't used it in a loong time |
| 23:36:45 | zeekoe | :) |
| 23:36:58 | zeekoe | you can't just start scandisk on winxp like in win98 |
| 23:37:17 | zeekoe | view properties of the disk drive, and press check now |
| 23:37:57 | maedhros_ | lol |
| 23:38:15 | maedhros_ | I don't think I've ever used scandisk in windows XP! |
| 23:38:21 | zeekoe | :P |
| 23:38:36 | zeekoe | let's check if it does the same thing for C:\ ... |
| 23:38:51 | maedhros_ | probably a good idea |
| 23:38:58 | zeekoe | nope, that one does work |
| 23:39:18 | zeekoe | i can of course install windows xp on the jukebox and then swap disks :P |
| 23:39:24 | maedhros_ | and the archos is plugged and works normally? |
| 23:39:31 | maedhros_ | lol |
| 23:39:41 | zeekoe | yep, it does work fine |
| 23:39:54 | maedhros_ | or you could just NOT use scandisk... |
| 23:40:07 | zeekoe | the size of the partial file looks fine too, so i guess i just delete it |
| 23:40:24 | zeekoe | and then see what happens |
| 23:40:57 | zeekoe | i really need to get a good adapter plug for my jukebox |
| 23:44:08 | maedhros_ | heh |
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| 23:50:22 | maedhros_ | Argh. I ruined the HDD of my JBR. I bought a new one today, but I lost all my files and settings! |
| 23:52:13 | zeekoe|thirsty | ? |
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| 23:53:54 | zeekoe | how did you do that? |
| 23:56:27 | zeekoe | do a scandisk :P |
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