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| 00:35:09 | zeekoe | anything happened to etchasketc.c yet? |
| 00:36:47 | midk | asdfadsf |
| 00:36:51 | midk | yes. |
| 00:36:54 | midk | actually. |
| 00:36:55 | midk | :) |
| 00:37:01 | midk | i coded quite a bit |
| 00:37:02 | zeekoe | tell me tell me |
| 00:37:07 | zeekoe | upload upload |
| 00:37:08 | midk | i did the moving without drawing |
| 00:37:11 | zeekoe | cool |
| 00:37:17 | midk | i made a start screen.. |
| 00:37:21 | midk | hmm i sort of forget now |
| 00:37:21 | zeekoe | oh no |
| 00:37:26 | midk | you can remove it. |
| 00:37:28 | zeekoe | :P |
| 00:37:34 | midk | i changed the position of the start cursor |
| 00:37:36 | zeekoe | upload upload |
| 00:37:43 | midk | i cleaned up the code a little |
| 00:37:44 | midk | ok ok |
| 00:37:44 | zeekoe | ok, that's fine |
| 00:37:45 | zeekoe | ok |
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| 00:38:43 | midk | http://freewebs.com/midky/etchasketch.c |
| 00:39:32 | midk | i just thought for the startup screen people should know that f1 will clear their picture and f2 will save it really.. |
| 00:39:44 | midk | so they don't accidentally ruin their masterpiece |
| 00:40:37 | zeekoe | yep, that's something i thought of too, but uh never did it |
| 00:40:38 | zeekoe | nice |
| 00:40:59 | midk | enjoy, sir. |
| 00:41:20 | midk | the moving without drawing function doubles as an eraser, btw |
| 00:41:50 | midk | i want to talk to linus about a save bitmap feature, so you could eventually implement a menu where you could pick different sized brushes, etc. |
| 00:42:12 | midk | (that's completely up to you of course) |
| 00:43:36 | zeekoe | ok |
| 00:43:50 | zeekoe | what does a save bitmap function have to do with different brushes? |
| 00:44:58 | midk | you'd have to go to a menu to select a new brush |
| 00:45:16 | midk | and if you felt like it, other things such as a paint bucket or different shades via grayscale |
| 00:45:22 | zeekoe | :P |
| 00:45:26 | midk | you could save a shot of the etch to a temporary char array |
| 00:45:29 | midk | go to menu |
| 00:45:33 | zeekoe | :? it doesnt seem to compile well |
| 00:45:33 | midk | when you exit menu restore that bitmap |
| 00:45:37 | zeekoe | ok |
| 00:45:40 | midk | possibly not for the sim |
| 00:45:42 | midk | let me check |
| 00:45:54 | zeekoe | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/guest/apps/plugins' |
| 00:45:54 | zeekoe | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `Copy', needed by `all'. Stop. |
| 00:45:54 | zeekoe | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/guest/apps/plugins' |
| 00:45:54 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK zeekoe |
| 00:45:54 | zeekoe | make[1]: *** [rocks] Error 2 |
| 00:45:54 | zeekoe | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/guest/apps' |
| 00:45:55 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 00:45:55 | zeekoe | make: *** [apps] Error 2 |
| 00:45:55 | midk | works for me |
| 00:45:59 | zeekoe | i'll configure again |
| 00:46:02 | midk | uh |
| 00:46:06 | midk | did you put in "make Copy"? |
| 00:46:11 | midk | oh |
| 00:46:12 | midk | weird. |
| 00:46:15 | midk | never mind... |
| 00:46:22 | midk | yes, "make clean" and then configure |
| 00:47:13 | jdeonarine | hello all |
| 00:47:18 | zeekoe | hi |
| 00:47:33 | midk | yo. |
| 00:47:44 | | Nick zeekoe is now known as zeekoe|toofbruzj (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 00:47:44 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK zeekoe|toofbruzj |
| 00:47:44 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 00:47:45 | jdeonarine | sounds like lots of work going on :) |
| 00:47:56 | midk | working on even more animations for the clock |
| 00:48:06 | jdeonarine | that sounds interesting |
| 00:48:08 | midk | blug blug blug. i hate complex for loops |
| 00:48:15 | midk | flying text.. |
| 00:48:23 | jdeonarine | I'm working on a patch for id3 support in the directory view |
| 00:48:30 | midk | i was considering adding a progressbar to the credits roll |
| 00:48:36 | midk | wow, that sounds really nifty |
| 00:48:47 | jdeonarine | yeah, hopefully people will like it |
| 00:48:55 | jdeonarine | per-folder settings for the directory listings |
| 00:49:13 | midk | if it's implemented as a setting where you can choose id3 or filename view, it'd probably be accepted |
| 00:49:20 | jdeonarine | yeah, that's my plan |
| 00:49:41 | jdeonarine | plus the option to turn it off or change the setting for an individual folder |
| 00:49:43 | midk | that sounds even better (per-directory) |
| 00:50:16 | midk | does a progressbar for the credits roll sound overkill? ;) |
| 00:50:20 | jdeonarine | heh |
| 00:50:29 | jdeonarine | hey, if it is fun to implement, then go for it |
| 00:50:42 | midk | wow |
| 00:50:44 | midk | i love your logic |
| 00:50:47 | midk | :]] |
| 00:50:49 | jdeonarine | ;) |
| 00:50:53 | zeekoe|toofbruzj | jdeonarine: are you new here? or am i? |
| 00:50:57 | | Nick zeekoe|toofbruzj is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 00:50:57 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK zeekoe |
| 00:50:57 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 00:51:04 | jdeonarine | I'm new, just showed up today |
| 00:51:07 | zeekoe | ok |
| 00:51:20 | zeekoe | me too |
| 00:51:24 | jdeonarine | I submitted my first patch yesterday, probably second will come before the end of the weekend |
| 00:51:25 | zeekoe | about 2 weeks |
| 00:51:31 | jdeonarine | too sunburned to do anything else :/ |
| 00:51:41 | zeekoe | sounds like lots of work going on :) |
| 00:51:42 | zeekoe | :) |
| 00:52:06 | jdeonarine | yeah, I've used rockbox for a couple of months now, and always said 'yeah, I'll mess with that someday' |
| 00:52:09 | zeekoe | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/guest/apps/plugins' |
| 00:52:09 | zeekoe | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `Copy', needed by `all'. Stop. |
| 00:52:09 | zeekoe | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/guest/apps/plugins' |
| 00:52:09 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 00:52:09 | zeekoe | make[1]: *** [rocks] Error 2 |
| 00:52:09 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 00:52:09 | zeekoe | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/guest/apps' |
| 00:52:10 | *** | Alert Mode level 6 |
| 00:52:10 | zeekoe | make: *** [apps] Error 2 |
| 00:52:12 | zeekoe | adsfsdad |
| 00:52:17 | jdeonarine | hmm |
| 00:52:23 | jdeonarine | paste error? |
| 00:52:49 | jdeonarine | you made a copy of a file in plugins |
| 00:52:52 | jdeonarine | and it is still ending in .c |
| 00:52:58 | jdeonarine | so change the extension of your copy |
| 00:53:09 | jdeonarine | probably it is "Copy of myfile.c" or something similar |
| 00:53:14 | zeekoe | whoops |
| 00:53:16 | zeekoe | :P |
| 00:53:36 | midk | ooooooooohhhhhh |
| 00:53:48 | midk | he told you |
| 00:53:51 | zeekoe | jdeonarine: you r-00lz |
| 00:53:55 | jdeonarine | laf, thx |
| 00:56:01 | zeekoe | midk: U 4R t3h B0mb |
| 00:56:16 | midk | :] |
| 00:56:17 | zeekoe | it draws faster now |
| 00:56:34 | midk | i was working on an even faster drawing spped |
| 00:56:35 | midk | speed* |
| 00:56:40 | zeekoe | cool :) |
| 00:56:48 | midk | have to talk to linus about that |
| 00:57:02 | zeekoe | about the BUTTON_ANY ? |
| 00:57:13 | midk | oh, no.. |
| 00:57:19 | midk | it's to do with raw button reading |
| 00:57:21 | zeekoe | ok, i saw you asking that |
| 00:57:22 | zeekoe | ok |
| 00:57:25 | zeekoe | that's cool |
| 00:57:33 | zeekoe | it can be done on Ti-83+ too |
| 00:57:35 | midk | that way you can really just pick a speed |
| 00:57:43 | zeekoe | so this isnt real raw? |
| 00:57:57 | midk | i hope it's not |
| 00:58:02 | zeekoe | :) |
| 00:58:06 | zeekoe | small bug btw: when you press play, the pixel-before-current pixel is removed too |
| 00:58:25 | midk | yeah.. that's the way the cookie crumbles i guess :) |
| 00:58:51 | zeekoe | you can do faster drawing in another way, maybe |
| 00:58:58 | midk | ah, good, no i haven |
| 00:59:06 | midk | haven't uploaded the one with the raw button reading |
| 00:59:11 | zeekoe | ok |
| 00:59:12 | midk | it was pretty buggy |
| 00:59:16 | zeekoe | ok |
| 00:59:36 | zeekoe | but if you define a key, e.g. F3 for fast-drawing |
| 00:59:45 | zeekoe | then it can draw 2 pixels a time, for example |
| 00:59:55 | midk | no, just 1 pixel at a time, but faster |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:21 | zeekoe | that can be done too, but if that doesnt work |
| 01:00:33 | midk | yeah |
| 01:01:40 | zeekoe | well |
| 01:01:42 | zeekoe | bed time again |
| 01:01:44 | midk | nite |
| 01:01:46 | zeekoe | see you tomorrow |
| 01:01:48 | zeekoe | nite |
| 01:01:53 | midk | nite nite |
| 01:01:56 | midk | nite nite nite |
| 01:01:58 | zeekoe | nite nite nite nite |
| 01:01:58 | midk | nitey |
| 01:02:00 | midk | sleep good |
| 01:02:02 | midk | sleep |
| 01:02:02 | midk | nite |
| 01:02:03 | zeekoe | nitey nitey nite |
| 01:02:04 | midk | good night |
| 01:02:05 | midk | go to bed |
| 01:02:06 | midk | sleep well |
| 01:02:08 | midk | nite nite |
| 01:02:09 | zeekoe | die |
| 01:02:11 | zeekoe | :P |
| 01:02:11 | midk | :[ |
| 01:02:12 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 01:02:19 | zeekoe | die for 8 hours |
| 01:02:25 | midk | nah. |
| 01:02:35 | midk | nite. |
| 01:02:38 | zeekoe | :P |
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| 02:18:18 | Guest | Hello>? |
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| 02:27:39 | jdeonarine | hmm, anyone want to be a guinea pig? |
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| 02:53:35 | jdeonarine | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1001358&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 02:53:54 | jdeonarine | id3 tags in the browser, with high customization |
| 02:54:01 | midk | yo., |
| 02:56:23 | midk | wow. |
| 02:56:27 | midk | sounds really awesome |
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| 10:05:27 | elinenbe | word it up |
| 10:05:40 | elinenbe | I'm the lyrical gangsta |
| 10:05:43 | elinenbe | word it up |
| 10:05:49 | elinenbe | excuse me mr. office |
| 10:05:52 | Ctcp | Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 5 minutes and 3 seconds at the last flood |
| 10:05:52 | * | midk words it up for elinenbe |
| 10:05:53 | elinenbe | word it up |
| 10:06:05 | elinenbe | me livin like that. |
| 10:06:16 | * | midk jumps happily |
| 10:06:23 | midk | i didn't break the sim builds |
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| 11:38:04 | zeekoe | jdeonarine: if you still are here, /me guinnea pigging |
| 11:39:04 | midk | hi zeeks. |
| 11:40:53 | zeekoe | hi mikker |
| 11:42:05 | zeekoe | done anything cool the past few hours? |
| 11:42:14 | midk | heh, check the clock update.. |
| 11:42:19 | midk | working on a matrix scroller too |
| 11:42:50 | zeekoe | is the clock update in latest cvs? |
| 11:43:04 | midk | yeah. not in the daily build yet but in the bleeding edge |
| 11:43:12 | zeekoe | i should have it then |
| 11:44:04 | midk | should my matrix scroller move the drippy text downward by one pixel at a time or one character at a time? |
| 11:44:43 | zeekoe | cool, you mean The Matrix |
| 11:44:56 | zeekoe | dunno |
| 11:45:01 | zeekoe | try both :) |
| 11:45:05 | ze | i'd say pixel |
| 11:45:06 | ze | heh |
| 11:45:14 | zeekoe | i think it's one character at a time, in the original |
| 11:45:18 | midk | i tried the character-per-drip, a little jumpy |
| 11:45:18 | zeekoe | or isnt it |
| 11:45:21 | zeekoe | ok |
| 11:45:24 | midk | in the original it was per-character |
| 11:45:30 | zeekoe | maybe 2 pixels or so, as a compromise |
| 11:45:30 | midk | but in reloaded and revolutions it was per pixel |
| 11:45:31 | midk | iirc |
| 11:45:35 | zeekoe | :P |
| 11:45:43 | ze | heh |
| 11:45:52 | midk | looks a lot better 1-pixel step imo |
| 11:45:56 | midk | zeekoe you got your recorder around? |
| 11:45:58 | midk | you could test it.. |
| 11:46:04 | zeekoe | have it |
| 11:46:12 | midk | break it out hten |
| 11:46:13 | zeekoe | just testing jdeonarine's thing |
| 11:46:17 | midk | then* |
| 11:49:04 | zeekoe | where is it? |
| 11:49:18 | midk | uploading |
| 11:49:18 | midk | sec |
| 11:49:30 | midk | freewebs is down and geocities doesn't like the filename |
| 11:49:40 | zeekoe | 1337... jdeonarine r0o1z |
| 11:49:44 | zeekoe | :P |
| 11:50:13 | midk | http://uploadingmisc.tripod.com/matrix.rock |
| 11:50:14 | zeekoe | too bad id3 display takes ages |
| 11:50:23 | midk | remember |
| 11:50:28 | midk | this only works on the target. |
| 11:50:46 | midk | and the grayscale is a little blotchy.. i'm workin on it. :] |
| 11:50:55 | zeekoe | :-/ |
| 11:50:59 | zeekoe | opera just opens it |
| 11:51:13 | midk | hm |
| 11:51:15 | zeekoe | ie too |
| 11:51:21 | zeekoe | wait |
| 11:51:46 | * | zeekoe likes opera quick download :) |
| 11:51:50 | midk | ooh :D |
| 11:52:13 | zeekoe | btw, i opened my recorder yesterday :-D |
| 11:52:19 | ze | i switched from firebird to opera when i discovered it's auto session saving |
| 11:52:20 | midk | ooh.. did you kill it? |
| 11:52:28 | zeekoe | no, didnt |
| 11:52:29 | ze | then i switched back to firefox when i discovered it's session saver plugin |
| 11:52:33 | midk | ze: firefox has a session saver extension |
| 11:52:35 | midk | HAHA |
| 11:52:37 | zeekoe | one of the screws is a bit screwed |
| 11:52:41 | ze | er yeah extension rather |
| 11:52:43 | midk | zeekoe: two of mine are |
| 11:52:50 | midk | one is missing, the other is half-in and stuck there |
| 11:52:53 | zeekoe | :P |
| 11:53:24 | zeekoe | i wanted to take out the microphone, and perhaps wire it to the digital in/out |
| 11:54:07 | zeekoe | but i didnt have that copper stuff (we call it litze) to desolder the things, only a tin-sucker (or whatever it's called) |
| 11:54:41 | zeekoe | midk: do i need a special font? |
| 11:54:44 | midk | HAHA. you couldn't do the job because you don't have the copper stuff, only a tin sucker |
| 11:54:48 | midk | zeekoe: nope. |
| 11:54:57 | zeekoe | the tin sucker sucks |
| 11:55:00 | midk | it's just 1s and 0s anyways atm |
| 11:55:04 | zeekoe | :P |
| 11:55:40 | zeekoe | well, starts to look fine |
| 11:55:44 | zeekoe | and only 13 kb :P |
| 11:56:00 | midk | 6.7kb iirc. |
| 11:56:25 | zeekoe | the .rock is 12.866 bytes |
| 11:56:32 | midk | 12 bytes? |
| 11:56:35 | midk | niice. |
| 11:56:37 | midk | :] |
| 11:56:50 | zeekoe | okay, for you st*pid americans it's 12,866 |
| 11:56:57 | zeekoe | :) |
| 11:57:13 | midk | OH. YES! |
| 11:57:23 | midk | i think i just got a way to speed it up |
| 11:57:29 | zeekoe | or 5065 inch-bytes, if you like |
| 11:57:29 | midk | the rock you have is going at top speed |
| 11:57:39 | zeekoe | uh |
| 11:57:40 | zeekoe | ok |
| 11:57:53 | midk | the reason it's so slow is because i use floats for the y positions, and i have tons of ints for the trails of each |
| 11:58:01 | midk | i just got a way to speed it up substantially. |
| 11:58:07 | zeekoe | nice |
| 11:58:32 | midk | ok fine |
| 11:58:39 | midk | if you don't care then don't care |
| 11:59:03 | zeekoe | :P |
| 11:59:14 | zeekoe | what's new about the clock? |
| 11:59:28 | midk | read the front page's cvs commit section |
| 11:59:33 | zeekoe | uh |
| 11:59:35 | midk | or the release notes at the top of the code |
| 11:59:36 | zeekoe | of course |
| 11:59:40 | midk | :) |
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| 12:01:13 | midk | should the numbers be given a random y-position at start in addition to the already random x-position? |
| 12:01:33 | ze | yes |
| 12:01:34 | ze | heh |
| 12:01:36 | zeekoe | uh... what was x and y again ;) |
| 12:01:45 | midk | <−− x −−> |
| 12:01:48 | midk | ^ |
| 12:01:49 | midk | | |
| 12:01:50 | midk | y |
| 12:01:51 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midk |
| 12:01:51 | midk | | |
| 12:01:51 | zeekoe | :P |
| 12:01:51 | midk | v |
| 12:01:54 | midk | FUasdf. |
| 12:01:56 | midk | wtf. |
| 12:01:57 | ze | :p |
| 12:01:59 | zeekoe | i screwed it up |
| 12:01:59 | midk | don't do that. |
| 12:02:03 | midk | YES YOU DID/ |
| 12:02:07 | zeekoe | muahahhaa |
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| 12:02:09 | * | zeekoe evil |
| 12:02:11 | midk | <−− x −−> |
| 12:02:13 | midk | ^ |
| 12:02:15 | zeekoe | #hi |
| 12:02:15 | midk | | |
| 12:02:16 | ze | there's 2 ze's here |
| 12:02:21 | zeekoe | - |
| 12:02:22 | zeekoe | \ |
| 12:02:26 | zeekoe | / |
| 12:02:28 | ze | ^ |
| 12:02:28 | zeekoe | \ |
| 12:02:31 | ze | -y- |
| 12:02:31 | ze | v |
| 12:02:47 | zeekoe | nah |
| 12:02:49 | zeekoe | i'm not ze |
| 12:02:53 | zeekoe | i'm zeekoe |
| 12:02:57 | zeekoe | huge difference |
| 12:02:58 | ze | it's like ze and ze ekoe |
| 12:03:21 | zeekoe | i've been zeekoe for uh... |
| 12:03:23 | ze | is there an ekoe in here or is it just ze |
| 12:03:31 | zeekoe | 5 years or so |
| 12:03:43 | ze | well that makes it ironic then |
| 12:03:47 | midk | i remember ze's old nick |
| 12:03:48 | ze | the ekoe came first |
| 12:03:58 | midk | they *still* haven't updated the irc page with your new one |
| 12:04:00 | zeekoe | ? |
| 12:04:04 | ze | thats ok |
| 12:04:14 | midk | all you did was "this tests" anyways |
| 12:04:16 | zeekoe | ze: what was your old nick? |
| 12:04:18 | midk | i did a lot more stuff. |
| 12:04:21 | ze | i'm still on a q3ut2 clan page as psycodeadman for demolitions |
| 12:04:24 | midk | i should be more important |
| 12:04:31 | ze | i did more than "this tests" |
| 12:04:35 | midk | you lie |
| 12:04:38 | ze | i was in the credits before i even did that |
| 12:04:39 | ze | :p |
| 12:04:44 | midk | oh really. |
| 12:04:47 | midk | "this tests" |
| 12:04:50 | midk | GSJSJSJS |
| 12:04:51 | midk | er |
| 12:04:54 | midk | FAHAHAHA |
| 12:04:56 | ze | no really i was |
| 12:05:03 | midk | ok go on |
| 12:05:03 | ze | see what happened |
| 12:05:06 | midk | what else did you do |
| 12:05:07 | ze | was they released blinky light code |
| 12:05:13 | ze | and then they released some lcd code |
| 12:05:20 | ze | and then somebody did some fun stuff with that |
| 12:05:22 | ze | extended it |
| 12:05:25 | ze | dunno who |
| 12:05:33 | ze | it was like lame stuff with a mushroom cloud or something |
| 12:05:37 | ze | but it had new code that was cool |
| 12:05:38 | ze | heh |
| 12:05:38 | midk | haha |
| 12:05:46 | ze | and i took all those different bits of code |
| 12:05:52 | ze | and put them together and started doing more new stuff |
| 12:06:02 | ze | like an ebook reader deal and like games and stuff |
| 12:06:10 | ze | i guess some button reading code got in there somewhere too |
| 12:06:12 | midk | yeah right... |
| 12:06:12 | ze | that i also extended |
| 12:06:17 | ze | and then rockbox got seriously going |
| 12:06:24 | midk | and you gave up. |
| 12:06:25 | ze | and i gave my whole archive to the devs |
| 12:06:35 | ze | and they looked it over and thanked me for the contribution |
| 12:06:44 | ze | i'm not sure if they used anything from it or even learned anything from it |
| 12:06:49 | ze | but i got in the credits anyway |
| 12:06:49 | ze | heh |
| 12:07:00 | midk | you're just lucky you got here before i did |
| 12:07:17 | ze | and i've contributed lots of ideas and guidance at various points |
| 12:07:23 | midk | yeah. mmhmm... |
| 12:07:31 | midk | "i agree with zagor" |
| 12:07:34 | midk | "i agree with linus" |
| 12:07:42 | zeekoe | ze: were you PsycoXul? |
| 12:07:43 | ze | yeah it's scary to think how stuff might've ended up without me |
| 12:07:47 | ze | zeekoe: yeah |
| 12:07:52 | zeekoe | ok |
| 12:07:57 | ze | midk: there was a bit of that too yeah |
| 12:08:01 | ze | midk: but i'd generally say why |
| 12:08:17 | ze | and then it'd often be agreed by the rest after |
| 12:08:17 | * | midk rocks out |
| 12:08:17 | ze | :p |
| 12:08:24 | midk | yeah.. go ze.. mhm. |
| 12:08:30 | ze | and then i also stated my own opinions on stuff |
| 12:08:37 | midk | woowwwwwwww |
| 12:08:40 | ze | that were different from those that had been considered |
| 12:08:41 | * | midk looks at ze in awe |
| 12:08:46 | ze | and ended up being the way they went |
| 12:08:47 | ze | heh |
| 12:09:02 | midk | :) |
| 12:09:08 | midk | ze's funny. |
| 12:09:24 | midk | i remember! ze was the first person i met when i came here for the very first time. |
| 12:09:49 | midk | i was like "hi everyone. i have a question",, and ze was like "well ask the question instead of stating that you have one" |
| 12:09:53 | midk | and i was like "yes sir" |
| 12:10:00 | ze | heh |
| 12:10:01 | zeekoe | :P |
| 12:10:04 | ze | yeah that always annoys me |
| 12:10:14 | zeekoe | let's see what was My First Confrontation |
| 12:10:15 | ze | "i have a question" "good, hang on to it then" |
| 12:10:16 | midk | same.. now that i "get" irc |
| 12:10:16 | ze | :p |
| 12:10:19 | midk | HAHA. |
| 12:10:23 | ze | and also like |
| 12:10:29 | ze | "can i ask a question?" "well you just did, but no" |
| 12:10:48 | ze | "yes, you can ask one... now that you have, goodbye" |
| 12:11:03 | midk | fahaha. |
| 12:11:09 | midk | ze's such a prick. |
| 12:11:10 | midk | ;) |
| 12:11:18 | midk | i see this all the time in #mandrake for example |
| 12:11:20 | ze | no it's just lame |
| 12:11:24 | ze | and it's like not just irc |
| 12:11:26 | ze | it's anywhere |
| 12:11:39 | ze | if it's not right for you to ask a question |
| 12:11:44 | midk | well yeah. i'm saying i see it lots in #mandrake because thats a popular channel |
| 12:11:44 | ze | then asking "can i ask a question" |
| 12:11:46 | ze | isn't right |
| 12:12:06 | ze | so you might as well just ask your question and save the time and whatnot |
| 12:12:06 | ze | heh |
| 12:12:15 | ze | well |
| 12:12:16 | ze | #mandrake... |
| 12:12:22 | ze | is that do with the mandrake linux distribution? |
| 12:12:28 | ze | cause like |
| 12:12:30 | midk | yes |
| 12:12:35 | ze | i would expect to find lots of lameness there in that case |
| 12:12:46 | midk | lameness? |
| 12:12:49 | ze | yeah see so i'm not surprised |
| 12:13:07 | ze | mandrake's not just a newbie distro but a cluebie distro |
| 12:13:19 | zeekoe | jay... june 27th i came here first |
| 12:13:22 | ze | so #mandrake is likely to be full of the new and clueless |
| 12:13:24 | midk | ze stfu |
| 12:13:34 | zeekoe | and july 6 for the 2nd time |
| 12:14:00 | zeekoe | i use mandrake too |
| 12:14:01 | midk | −−> YankDownUnder (~stephen@wolax11-154.dialup.optusnet.com.au) has joined #mandrake |
| 12:14:01 | midk | <hexagonsun> downloaded some porn. |
| 12:14:01 | midk | <crash3m> lol |
| 12:14:01 | midk | <YankDownUnder> pr0n? someone has pr0n? Ooooooo... |
| 12:14:14 | ze | heh |
| 12:14:44 | zeekoe | mandrake was the only thing i got working on my computer |
| 12:15:07 | zeekoe | tried peanut linux, rx linux, and one or two others |
| 12:15:13 | midk | zeekoe: the opposite for me until recently |
| 12:15:19 | zeekoe | but X didnt work |
| 12:15:24 | midk | asdfasdfasdf HAHA. |
| 12:15:36 | midk | i hate those irssi and vim fanboys |
| 12:15:38 | zeekoe | after days and days i went to mandrake, worked out of the box |
| 12:15:41 | zeekoe | :P |
| 12:15:42 | midk | xchat and kwrite r0x0rl |
| 12:15:49 | zeekoe | :P |
| 12:15:56 | zeekoe | irssi can be quite nice |
| 12:16:00 | midk | NO. stfu. |
| 12:16:05 | zeekoe | irssi can be quite nice |
| 12:16:11 | midk | seriously, why does everyone like it? |
| 12:16:17 | midk | ok.. so it's a text based irc client.. i get it |
| 12:16:26 | midk | what makes that better than any other? |
| 12:16:40 | zeekoe | there is also a totally non-text-based irc client |
| 12:16:44 | * | zeekoe searching |
| 12:16:48 | midk | −−> rdancer (~r−−t@snat2.arachne.czfree.net) has joined #c |
| 12:16:48 | midk | <lgd_> i have a little question |
| 12:16:55 | ze | heh |
| 12:16:56 | midk | er |
| 12:17:02 | midk | −−> lgd_ (~lgd_@host26-245.pool80180.interbusiness.it) has joined #C |
| 12:17:02 | midk | <lgd_> hi |
| 12:17:02 | midk | −−> rdancer (~r−−t@snat2.arachne.czfree.net) has joined #c |
| 12:17:02 | midk | <lgd_> i have a little question |
| 12:17:03 | zeekoe | http://research.microsoft.com/vwg/projectsheets/comicchat.htm |
| 12:17:04 | ze | it's not just a "text based irc client" |
| 12:17:08 | ze | there's lots of text-based irc clients |
| 12:17:08 | midk | ze stfu |
| 12:17:17 | ze | it's just the best text-based irc client |
| 12:17:31 | ze | and as far as text-based vs gui |
| 12:17:32 | midk | WHY is it the best |
| 12:17:40 | ze | just face it, irc is text-based, a gui is pretty pointless |
| 12:17:41 | ze | heh |
| 12:18:04 | ze | most of irc operation involves typing, even in a gui client |
| 12:18:14 | ze | gui's only managed to break the flow by making your move your hand away from the keyboard |
| 12:18:19 | midk | wtf.. |
| 12:18:33 | ze | heh |
| 12:18:45 | zeekoe | that's why i like shortcuts and stuff |
| 12:18:46 | ze | because it's fast, stable, clean, and highly configurable and scriptable |
| 12:18:54 | zeekoe | and why i hate MS word formula editor |
| 12:18:56 | midk | fast? |
| 12:18:59 | midk | you idiotic nerd |
| 12:19:29 | ze | it handles multiple servers nicely too |
| 12:19:38 | midk | so does xchat |
| 12:19:47 | ze | i used to use epic, and while it has multiple server support, all the ircii-based clients are pretty lame at it |
| 12:19:47 | midk | only instead of remembering key combos you just press buttons |
| 12:19:53 | ze | irssi does it nicely |
| 12:20:00 | ze | um |
| 12:20:03 | ze | keys are buttons |
| 12:20:04 | ze | :p |
| 12:20:09 | midk | i mean with a mouse. |
| 12:20:09 | ze | and hey check it out |
| 12:20:15 | ze | you got 10 pointers to press them with |
| 12:20:17 | ze | instead of just 1 |
| 12:20:40 | zeekoe | you can do xchat by keyboard too |
| 12:20:49 | zeekoe | ctrl+tab |
| 12:20:59 | zeekoe | it just takes a while longer |
| 12:21:04 | ze | heh |
| 12:21:08 | ze | yeah see i do alt-n |
| 12:21:12 | ze | n being the window number |
| 12:21:14 | ze | and i hop around a lot |
| 12:21:22 | zeekoe | yep, that's nice |
| 12:21:28 | ze | i usually do switching between windows 1 and 5 |
| 12:21:30 | ze | and 1 and 3 |
| 12:21:33 | ze | and 3 and 5 |
| 12:21:33 | midk | ze: do you play any games? |
| 12:21:35 | zeekoe | ze: muahahahhahaaaa |
| 12:21:35 | ze | and 1 and 6 |
| 12:21:36 | ze | and whatall |
| 12:21:39 | zeekoe | ze: muaahahahahhaa |
| 12:21:43 | midk | fahahaha. no. |
| 12:21:45 | midk | xchat does that too |
| 12:21:47 | zeekoe | guess what xchat does at alt+n |
| 12:21:49 | midk | alt+n |
| 12:21:50 | midk | YEAH. |
| 12:21:54 | ze | and have multiple conversations at the same time |
| 12:21:55 | zeekoe | thanks, ze |
| 12:21:56 | | Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 12:21:58 | ze | and it just switches instantly |
| 12:22:03 | midk | same with xchat |
| 12:22:04 | ze | heh |
| 12:22:07 | ze | well nifty |
| 12:22:12 | midk | ze are you a gamer? |
| 12:22:18 | ze | used to be |
| 12:22:20 | ze | not so much anymore |
| 12:22:24 | midk | at all? |
| 12:22:24 | ze | although doom3'll be out soon |
| 12:22:41 | ze | i just recently mentioned my listing on a q3ut2 clan page |
| 12:22:44 | ze | umptango.net |
| 12:22:49 | midk | quake 3 mm? |
| 12:23:08 | ze | quake3 urbanterror |
| 12:23:13 | midk | I HAVE THAT MOD. |
| 12:23:16 | midk | and that game. |
| 12:23:22 | midk | ze what about a game? |
| 12:23:30 | ze | i played q3 from the initial q3test up through like q3ut2.6 or so |
| 12:23:33 | ze | and then i pretty much quit |
| 12:23:33 | ze | heh |
| 12:23:44 | midk | what about a game of ctf. |
| 12:23:47 | ze | ok not the initial initial q3test |
| 12:23:49 | midk | a small one |
| 12:23:57 | ze | q3test got released for mac first, then linux, and then some weeks later for windows |
| 12:24:05 | ze | i started when it was first released for linux |
| 12:24:06 | ze | heh |
| 12:24:15 | midk | ctf |
| 12:24:23 | zeekoe | i only have unreal tournament :-/ |
| 12:24:26 | ze | and man did i own people on that q3dm17 or whatever one the floating one was |
| 12:24:26 | zeekoe | and it runs sucky |
| 12:24:35 | ze | on my 250ms modem ping |
| 12:24:44 | midk | FAHAHA... |
| 12:24:44 | ze | i got to the point where i was railing LPB's |
| 12:24:49 | midk | ze calm down |
| 12:24:49 | ze | i had some q3 zen shit going on then |
| 12:24:50 | ze | heh |
| 12:24:51 | midk | ctf? |
| 12:24:51 | ze | :p |
| 12:24:55 | ze | nah |
| 12:24:56 | ze | :p |
| 12:24:58 | midk | come on. |
| 12:25:02 | midk | small short game |
| 12:25:08 | ze | i got this nvidia+amd+via chipset thing going on |
| 12:25:14 | midk | it works fine |
| 12:25:16 | midk | come on. |
| 12:25:19 | midk | :] |
| 12:25:26 | ze | i get random hardware crashes when i use the 3D |
| 12:25:27 | ze | heh |
| 12:25:28 | midk | i'm just going to bug you until you say yes |
| 12:25:30 | midk | then use 2d |
| 12:25:32 | midk | let's go |
| 12:25:33 | ze | haha |
| 12:25:39 | zeekoe | 4D |
| 12:25:43 | midk | no you nerd |
| 12:25:52 | midk | zeze. ze ze. ZE. |
| 12:25:58 | midk | ctf. short short game |
| 12:26:01 | ze | heh |
| 12:26:16 | midk | or until it crashes |
| 12:26:22 | ze | you can't play q3 in 2d |
| 12:26:27 | midk | then don't |
| 12:26:28 | midk | 3d it is |
| 12:26:37 | zeekoe | then play duke nukem 2 |
| 12:26:41 | ze | it was like the 1st major game to require hardware acceleration |
| 12:26:47 | midk | ze come on |
| 12:26:52 | midk | i don't want tech specs |
| 12:26:52 | ze | while previous ones would just make use of it |
| 12:26:57 | midk | i want a short game |
| 12:26:57 | ze | but also provided a software renderer |
| 12:27:17 | ze | but fps ctf sucks |
| 12:27:22 | midk | uhh |
| 12:27:24 | midk | whatever |
| 12:27:25 | midk | let's go |
| 12:27:26 | ze | especially with like 2 people |
| 12:27:33 | midk | we'll add bots |
| 12:27:38 | midk | you'll add bots* |
| 12:27:39 | ze | see i learned to play ctf in boyscouts |
| 12:27:43 | midk | WTF |
| 12:27:45 | midk | i don't care |
| 12:27:49 | midk | just start the game |
| 12:27:53 | ze | where we'd all get decked out in full camo khaki's |
| 12:28:00 | ze | and be out in forests and deserts and hills |
| 12:28:07 | * | midk stares at ze |
| 12:28:13 | ze | now thats Real ctf |
| 12:28:18 | midk | ok lets play fake ctf |
| 12:28:20 | midk | you launch |
| 12:28:22 | ze | you actually have to SEARCH for the flag |
| 12:28:30 | midk | STFU, seriously |
| 12:28:39 | ze | it's not just some conspicuous standard location |
| 12:28:47 | midk | i understand |
| 12:28:52 | ze | it just has to be placed somewhere where it's visible when you get near it |
| 12:28:53 | ze | heh |
| 12:28:55 | midk | but there are also not people with guns |
| 12:29:03 | midk | now let's GO. |
| 12:29:14 | ze | yeah but if you get caught on enemy territory they capture you and put you in jail |
| 12:29:23 | midk | who cares |
| 12:29:25 | midk | let's go |
| 12:29:28 | ze | until if/when a teammate rescues you |
| 12:29:28 | ze | heh |
| 12:30:10 | midk | :[ |
| 12:30:17 | ze | hehe |
| 12:30:18 | midk | ze... come on now |
| 12:30:56 | zeekoe | midk: if you have another game, i can play |
| 12:30:59 | zeekoe | i can shoot guns too |
| 12:31:06 | midk | zeekoe: i don't :( |
| 12:31:11 | midk | ZE! |
| 12:31:17 | ze | my mouse is kinda lame too |
| 12:31:21 | midk | i don't care |
| 12:31:24 | midk | let's go |
| 12:31:24 | zeekoe | buy an optical |
| 12:31:26 | ze | it's like a good kind except they ruined it with the newer model |
| 12:31:31 | ze | they made it too small |
| 12:31:36 | midk | Z E E E E |
| 12:31:41 | ze | so it's hard to grip and operate smoothly |
| 12:31:42 | midk | let us play a game now |
| 12:31:44 | midk | ZE! |
| 12:31:48 | ze | the original logitech trackman marble 0wned |
| 12:31:57 | * | midk sighs in frustration |
| 12:31:58 | ze | but this damn thing my hand barely even fits on |
| 12:32:00 | midk | can we play now? |
| 12:32:09 | ze | and it like flips and slides and shit when i try to seriously game on it |
| 12:32:13 | ze | so it totally fucks up my aim |
| 12:32:17 | ze | heh |
| 12:32:17 | midk | you're a fucking .. ASDF. |
| 12:32:20 | midk | :[ |
| 12:32:29 | ze | you got a server? |
| 12:32:49 | midk | let's play. |
| 12:33:06 | midk | we've been arguing about it for 10 minute |
| 12:33:12 | ze | hey |
| 12:33:15 | midk | start one, and i'll connect to you |
| 12:33:19 | ze | heh |
| 12:33:20 | zeekoe | statsbot - both midk and ze had an average of 20 chat lines per second for the last 20 minutes |
| 12:33:25 | ze | oh now you don't just want to play a game with me |
| 12:33:34 | ze | you want me to run a server eh? |
| 12:33:41 | ze | ok well |
| 12:33:47 | midk | ctf, join blue team, map: Q3TOURNEY6_CTF |
| 12:33:52 | midk | i just connect |
| 12:34:06 | ze | eh? |
| 12:34:11 | ze | er oh |
| 12:34:14 | midk | blue team. q3tourney6_ctf |
| 12:34:24 | midk | yes, you're the server |
| 12:34:28 | ze | hmm q3tourney6_ctf? heh |
| 12:34:34 | midk | yes |
| 12:34:38 | midk | gogo. |
| 12:34:39 | ze | wait what ver of q3 is current anyway? what do you have? |
| 12:34:44 | midk | 1.32b |
| 12:34:53 | midk | it doesn't matter |
| 12:35:02 | ze | oh i guess thats what i have |
| 12:35:02 | ze | heh |
| 12:35:09 | midk | ok go now |
| 12:35:12 | ze | but i forget how to run a server |
| 12:35:31 | ze | i used to have scripts that started it all up right but i lost them |
| 12:35:33 | midk | multiplayer, create, type: ctf, map: q3tourney6_ctf, next, start |
| 12:35:40 | midk | it's quite easy. |
| 12:36:21 | ze | heh |
| 12:36:30 | midk | mhhhhhh |
| 12:36:31 | midk | GO. |
| 12:36:38 | midk | multiplayer, create... you can take it from there |
| 12:36:41 | ze | well lemme see |
| 12:36:47 | midk | ok try |
| 12:36:55 | ze | i guess if it works, wait a minute and try connected to psyco.yi.org |
| 12:37:06 | midk | i connect to you ip |
| 12:38:02 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 12:40:37 | midk | hmm |
| 12:40:41 | midk | ze. |
| 12:40:48 | midk | i have no downloads going |
| 12:40:54 | midk | pause yours if you can |
| 12:41:55 | midk | dah. |
| 12:41:58 | midk | laggy. |
| 13:00 |
| 13:12:54 | midk | i couldn't move at all because of lag |
| 13:13:18 | ze | hmm |
| 13:13:22 | midk | try starting again |
| 13:13:23 | ze | i see no network usage |
| 13:13:24 | ze | heh |
| 13:13:26 | midk | maybe just had to restart.. |
| 13:13:29 | ze | or hmm a little |
| 13:13:30 | midk | really weird. |
| 13:13:38 | midk | try one more time? |
| 13:13:58 | ze | ok |
| 13:14:02 | midk | go go go |
| 13:17:11 | | Quit midk ("Leaving") |
| 13:19:19 | | Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 13:20:50 | | Quit midk (Client Quit) |
| 13:21:57 | | Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 13:25:32 | midk | ze? |
| 13:25:33 | ze | wtf it keeps kicking me |
| 13:25:37 | ze | i guess unpure client but i dunno why |
| 13:25:47 | midk | yeah.. try restarting the game and in a minute connecting |
| 13:25:48 | midk | ok? |
| 13:25:50 | ze | like it's being gay with my extra models or something |
| 13:25:55 | midk | happened to me a few times |
| 13:26:07 | midk | connect in a minute |
| 13:26:33 | ze | whats the ip again |
| 13:27:55 | midk | adsfa |
| 13:27:59 | midk | haha |
| 13:28:06 | midk | 66.235.14.120 |
| 13:28:11 | midk | connect in 1m? |
| 13:28:43 | midk | ze. |
| 13:28:58 | midk | i'll turn off "pure server" too. |
| 13:29:21 | ze | it should work with pure server on though |
| 13:29:30 | midk | should i turn it off just in case? |
| 13:29:31 | midk | or no? |
| 13:29:34 | ze | nah |
| 13:29:37 | midk | ok |
| 13:29:39 | ze | i'll just mv my extra stuff off |
| 13:29:39 | midk | launching game |
| 13:29:44 | midk | connect in 1 minute |
| 13:33:02 | midk | ... |
| 13:33:22 | ze | ? |
| 13:33:24 | ze | it's not connecting |
| 13:33:31 | ze | your server is not responding |
| 13:34:29 | midk | try again |
| 13:34:31 | midk | in one minute |
| 13:34:34 | midk | i reconfigured router |
| 13:36:42 | midk | :\ |
| 13:36:53 | midk | well... me try connecting to you one more time, then we give up? |
| 13:37:19 | ze | heh |
| 13:37:24 | ze | well what'd you do with your router? put it back |
| 13:37:35 | midk | i did. |
| 13:37:38 | ze | it was working, it was just the q3 server and/or client not dealing with my extra maps/models like it's supposed to |
| 13:37:50 | ze | now it's not working at all |
| 13:37:50 | midk | me connect to you |
| 13:37:54 | ze | heh |
| 13:37:54 | ze | ok |
| 13:38:00 | midk | last try probaly |
| 13:38:02 | midk | k |
| 13:41:49 | midk | ze? |
| 13:58:25 | zeekoe | midk, it's 5 am |
| 13:58:25 | | Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:58:28 | zeekoe | you should sleep |
| 13:58:47 | zeekoe | and it's 2 pm here |
| 13:58:50 | zeekoe | i should eat |
| 13:59:10 | | Join AciD [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:00 | | Quit AciD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 14:00:24 | | Join AciD [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:09:50 | ze | gg |
| 14:09:51 | ze | hehe |
| 14:09:57 | midk | definitely gg :) |
| 14:10:02 | ze | i guess it's like riding a bicicle |
| 14:10:09 | midk | we should play again sometime... that was fun. |
| 14:10:09 | ze | i mean i'm so outta practice and yet... :p |
| 14:10:14 | midk | haha yeah |
| 14:10:42 | midk | LALALA. it's late. |
| 14:10:45 | ze | night |
| 14:10:46 | ze | heh |
| 14:10:48 | | Nick midk is now known as midk|asleep (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 14:10:50 | midk|asleep | nite nite ze |
| 14:10:50 | ze | or day as the case may be |
| 14:10:53 | midk|asleep | and zeekoe |
| 14:10:55 | midk|asleep | yeah. |
| 14:10:58 | * | midk|asleep looks outside |
| 14:11:02 | midk|asleep | ok its light out |
| 14:11:07 | midk|asleep | that means i am up way fucking late |
| 14:11:10 | midk|asleep | aka, get to bed midk |
| 14:11:37 | midk|asleep | so nite ze, zeekoe, and.. jdeonarine. |
| 14:11:39 | midk|asleep | and logbot. |
| 14:12:08 | * | midk|asleep is away: sleep |
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| 16:23:17 | zeekoe | help! |
| 16:23:24 | zeekoe | any c progging nerds around here? |
| 16:25:13 | zeekoe | hmm |
| 16:25:14 | zeekoe | bad |
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| 19:08:14 | * | jdeonarine has returned |
| 19:08:18 | * | jdeonarine is a c proggging nerd |
| 19:08:45 | jdeonarine | don't know if zeek is still here, that was 2.5hrs ago |
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| 19:20:52 | sabbath | hello |
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| 19:21:25 | zeekoe | hi |
| 19:21:32 | zeekoe | :) |
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| 19:21:33 | zeekoe | here |
| 19:21:49 | zeekoe | jdeonarine! help me! c progging nerd wnated! |
| 19:22:13 | jdeonarine | what's the problem? |
| 19:22:20 | jdeonarine | can't guarantee, but I can try |
| 19:22:22 | zeekoe | i made a bitmap viewer |
| 19:22:24 | zeekoe | well, i tried |
| 19:22:25 | zeekoe | http://home.student.utwente.nl/r.teune/etch/ |
| 19:22:32 | zeekoe | but it doesnt work |
| 19:22:53 | zeekoe | and in the bitmap saving code, there's some real weird stuff with | and & and shifting |
| 19:23:00 | zeekoe | and i dont know that stuff |
| 19:23:06 | zeekoe | but i have to reverse it |
| 19:24:11 | jdeonarine | so & is bitwise and |
| 19:24:26 | jdeonarine | if you had two binary numbers, say 001 and 101 |
| 19:24:32 | jdeonarine | the bitwise and would be 001 |
| 19:24:41 | jdeonarine | | is bitwise or |
| 19:24:46 | jdeonarine | same numbers, the result would be 101 |
| 19:25:01 | jdeonarine | shifting moves the bits around |
| 19:25:08 | sabbath | fuck you |
| 19:25:14 | jdeonarine | 101 >> 2 would be 001 (the 01 shifts off the end of the register) |
| 19:25:16 | dstar5 | ? |
| 19:25:20 | sabbath | you are sucks |
| 19:25:22 | dstar5 | fuck who? |
| 19:25:26 | | Part sabbath |
| 19:25:34 | dstar5 | heh |
| 19:25:37 | zeekoe | ok, just didnt know the symbols |
| 19:25:38 | jdeonarine | apparently we are sucks |
| 19:25:56 | zeekoe | and we fuck |
| 19:26:02 | jdeonarine | yeah, logical AND vs bitwise AND is a bit tricky at first |
| 19:26:44 | jdeonarine | they're probably converting from some format stored in the bmp to some format displayable on the lcd |
| 19:27:19 | zeekoe | i think so |
| 19:27:25 | zeekoe | but the other way around |
| 19:27:35 | jdeonarine | right, yeah, reverse that |
| 19:27:51 | zeekoe | uh... what's the difference logical and <-> bitwise and? |
| 19:28:05 | jdeonarine | so logical and (&&) merely tests if the two are non-zero |
| 19:28:34 | jdeonarine | bitwise and takes each bit of the two and ands them together, and produces a result |
| 19:28:56 | jdeonarine | bitwise and of 101 & 010 would be 000 |
| 19:29:21 | jdeonarine | but logical and of 101 && 010 is 'true' since they are both non-zero |
| 19:29:23 | zeekoe | okay, logical and is a bit like (bool)x = (bool)y ? |
| 19:29:33 | jdeonarine | something like that, yes |
| 19:29:44 | zeekoe | with double == of course :) |
| 19:29:47 | jdeonarine | right |
| 19:30:03 | dstar5 | jdeonarine: new with rockbox? |
| 19:30:20 | jdeonarine | eh, long time user, just recently started hacking it |
| 19:30:32 | dstar5 | cool :) |
| 19:30:34 | jdeonarine | posted 2 patches this weekend, hoping to keep working at it |
| 19:30:44 | dstar5 | ahh i shoul see them |
| 19:30:56 | jdeonarine | my 9-5 is firmware development, but for a totally different type of product :) |
| 19:31:09 | jdeonarine | yeah, they're on sourceforge |
| 19:31:51 | zeekoe | jdeonarine: what do you develop? |
| 19:31:55 | dstar5 | heh we should get a bot in the channle that posts info when there are cvs changes |
| 19:32:09 | jdeonarine | can't really talk about it, sorry :( |
| 19:32:14 | zeekoe | whooh |
| 19:32:20 | zeekoe | archos av400? :P |
| 19:32:25 | jdeonarine | heh, no I don't work for archos |
| 19:32:31 | zeekoe | good :) |
| 19:32:36 | dstar5 | browse directories using id3 tags |
| 19:32:39 | dstar5 | me like :) |
| 19:32:48 | dstar5 | my music is hard to keep organized |
| 19:32:51 | * | dstar5 patches |
| 19:32:52 | zeekoe | it's slow... |
| 19:32:59 | jdeonarine | I didn't think it was that bad |
| 19:33:02 | jdeonarine | on my unit |
| 19:33:05 | zeekoe | (/me is antfucker, like we say in holland) |
| 19:33:17 | jdeonarine | then again, I don't typically have more than 30 or so files in a folder |
| 19:33:34 | zeekoe | uh... i tried it only in one folder |
| 19:33:49 | jdeonarine | and when I do, I just add a dummy .display file to keep it from doing the tags |
| 19:34:18 | jdeonarine | what does 'antfucker' mean? |
| 19:34:27 | zeekoe | uh |
| 19:34:31 | jdeonarine | seems like you'd have to be fairly small to do that :/ |
| 19:34:40 | zeekoe | i think english call it splitting hairs or so |
| 19:34:43 | jdeonarine | ah |
| 19:34:43 | zeekoe | :P |
| 19:35:10 | jdeonarine | interesting that we have so many developers from around the world on this project |
| 19:35:59 | zeekoe | i'm no developer |
| 19:36:04 | zeekoe | just a script kiddie |
| 19:36:16 | zeekoe | copying other peoples code, asking around on #rockbox |
| 19:36:17 | jdeonarine | heh :) |
| 19:36:21 | zeekoe | and say it's mine :P |
| 19:36:29 | jdeonarine | curiosity is good to have |
| 19:37:51 | zeekoe | bitmaps are weird |
| 19:37:53 | jdeonarine | I wonder how the iPod does its mp3 database... do you have to refresh it every time you change the music on it? |
| 19:38:03 | jdeonarine | never used one before for more than a few minutes |
| 19:38:10 | zeekoe | does it use a fat-like system? |
| 19:38:17 | jdeonarine | I believe so |
| 19:38:29 | jdeonarine | I think you can use it as a mass storage device |
| 19:38:38 | zeekoe | yeah, that's true |
| 19:38:47 | zeekoe | so it should use a fat-like system.. |
| 19:38:56 | dstar5 | it hink the thing stores files wierd |
| 19:39:01 | dstar5 | in crytic folders |
| 19:39:12 | dstar5 | s/crytic/cryptic |
| 19:39:47 | jdeonarine | I seem to remember that it stores all the music in a standard filesystem, but that the root directory contains one hidden folder that contains all the rest |
| 19:39:50 | zeekoe | cryptic folders == folders with weird names? |
| 19:39:51 | jdeonarine | some simple copy protection |
| 19:40:19 | dstar5 | Apple HFS you think? |
| 19:41:03 | zeekoe | is the filesystem handled in the usb chip too btw? |
| 19:41:22 | zeekoe | s/handled/being handled of |
| 19:41:36 | jdeonarine | no, I think it is FAT |
| 19:41:40 | dstar5 | actauly.. the way you had it before was right |
| 19:41:44 | jdeonarine | because windows understands it natively |
| 19:42:16 | jdeonarine | so if you had a dir on your ipod called "Great Music" with a file "Favorite.mp3" |
| 19:42:30 | zeekoe | dstar5: whatever... english grammar is weird |
| 19:42:36 | zeekoe | :) |
| 19:42:41 | jdeonarine | on the ipod, it is stored as Z:\.hidden\Great Music\Favorite.mp3 |
| 19:42:55 | jdeonarine | not sure about the name of .hidden, but whatever |
| 19:43:10 | jdeonarine | well zeek, you speak much better english than I speak any other language :) |
| 19:43:22 | zeekoe | :P |
| 19:43:34 | zeekoe | you're american? ;-) |
| 19:43:37 | jdeonarine | yep |
| 19:44:27 | zeekoe | if the ipod uses a hidden dir, do you need a special transfer program to transfer music? |
| 19:44:32 | jdeonarine | no |
| 19:44:42 | jdeonarine | you just need to be able to see the hidden directory |
| 19:44:50 | jdeonarine | like 'show all files' in windows or something similar |
| 19:44:53 | zeekoe | hmm |
| 19:44:55 | jdeonarine | ls -al |
| 19:44:57 | zeekoe | okay... |
| 19:45:10 | jdeonarine | at least, that is the way it was explained to me by someone who owns one |
| 19:45:16 | zeekoe | but why is it hidden then? |
| 19:45:29 | jdeonarine | well, as a simple 'anti-mp3' copy scheme |
| 19:45:47 | zeekoe | but how do people get their music on it |
| 19:45:50 | jdeonarine | so that you 'think' you need to go through itunes and get the proper authorization |
| 19:45:54 | zeekoe | if they dont know about the dir |
| 19:45:57 | jdeonarine | itunes |
| 19:45:58 | zeekoe | ok |
| 19:46:01 | zeekoe | :) |
| 19:46:24 | jdeonarine | but if you know what's up, you can take files on or off the unit |
| 19:46:48 | zeekoe | so much for copy protection |
| 19:47:10 | zeekoe | i wonder what format the av400 uses to record video |
| 19:47:20 | zeekoe | it was supposed to be protected too |
| 19:54:08 | zeekoe | this thing is hard: |
| 19:54:09 | zeekoe | buf2[y*112/8+x] |= ((buf[y/8*112+x*8+i] >> shift) & 0x01) << (7-i); |
| 19:54:53 | zeekoe | can see what it's doing |
| 19:54:55 | zeekoe | ? |
| 19:55:49 | zeekoe | y = 0..63, shift = y & 7 = (int)y/8 = 0..7 |
| 19:56:17 | jdeonarine | no clue... tough to say |
| 19:56:17 | zeekoe | x = 0..112/8 |
| 19:56:21 | zeekoe | okay |
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| 19:56:42 | zeekoe | WHO WROTE THE USB SCREENSHOT CODE...???!! |
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| 19:59:34 | zeekoe | now i know what commenting code is good for... |
| 19:59:41 | dstar5 | god AOL is a pain in the ass |
| 19:59:48 | zeekoe | :P |
| 19:59:52 | zeekoe | dialup again? |
| 19:59:57 | dstar5 | i wish my dada wasnt such a dumbass and would listen to me about it... |
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| 20:00:37 | zeekoe | does aol still use some weird custom browsing system? |
| 20:00:42 | dstar5 | jdeonarine: i do not really understand how your patch is working yet |
| 20:00:57 | dstar5 | so it only changes what the file name is? |
| 20:01:31 | zeekoe | did you go to menu->general settings->display yet? |
| 20:02:15 | dstar5 | ?why |
| 20:02:21 | dstar5 | what is there to see? |
| 20:02:27 | zeekoe | there you can turn on the id3 browsing |
| 20:02:35 | zeekoe | dunno if it's needed though |
| 20:02:43 | dstar5 | it is in file view |
| 20:02:48 | zeekoe | uh |
| 20:02:49 | zeekoe | sorry |
| 20:02:51 | zeekoe | :P |
| 20:03:05 | zeekoe | and you made a .display? |
| 20:04:00 | dstar5 | yes |
| 20:04:04 | dstar5 | ok i got it now |
| 20:04:08 | dstar5 | kinda usefull |
| 20:04:31 | dstar5 | i think what would be usefull is a index file, kinda like the ipod |
| 20:04:53 | dstar5 | and have a option to do that, or just browse the files |
| 20:05:24 | zeekoe | what does an index file do? |
| 20:05:58 | dstar5 | just stores a list of all the files, and maybe have some info to show on it while browsing |
| 20:06:25 | dstar5 | lie maybe you could have mutipul index files, and have the organized differnt at times |
| 20:07:24 | zeekoe | like an id3 database? |
| 20:07:35 | dstar5 | yes sortof |
| 20:08:04 | dstar5 | i should search the ma9il ist and see if anyone has mentioned that |
| 20:09:12 | dstar5 | i bet with the database, you could also dearsh very fast |
| 20:09:44 | zeekoe | dearsh? |
| 20:10:29 | dstar5 | search |
| 20:10:34 | zeekoe | ok :) |
| 20:10:38 | dstar5 | sorry about my erranous typing :) |
| 20:10:46 | dstar5 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-06/0186.shtml |
| 20:10:51 | zeekoe | i can understand most :) |
| 20:11:29 | dstar5 | Daniel likes the idea of it... |
| 20:11:41 | dstar5 | guess no one has found the time to do it |
| 20:11:52 | zeekoe | just read... wait.. |
| 20:12:05 | zeekoe | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=439120&aid=1001358&group_id=44306 |
| 20:12:12 | zeekoe | :) |
| 20:12:34 | zeekoe | Obviously, a mp3 id3 |
| 20:12:34 | zeekoe | database would be more useful, but frankly, I can't |
| 20:12:34 | zeekoe | imagine that we would get very good performance based |
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| 20:12:34 | zeekoe | on the limited hardware in the Archos. That and this |
| 20:12:34 | zeekoe | seemed doable in a weekend :) |
| 20:13:33 | dstar5 | my only thing is.. how would the database be read? |
| 20:13:51 | dstar5 | and stored on ram? |
| 20:13:57 | zeekoe | rb->read(f,buffer,sizeof(buffer)) |
| 20:14:08 | zeekoe | rb->memcopy(buffer,ram,sizeof(buffer)) |
| 20:14:17 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 20:14:17 | * | zeekoe hides |
| 20:14:20 | dstar5 | well yes but those datbases will be HUGE |
| 20:14:27 | zeekoe | hm |
| 20:14:31 | zeekoe | you got a point |
| 20:14:39 | dstar5 | you will only be able to load so much at a time |
| 20:15:22 | dstar5 | i think a nice indexing plugin wouldn't be hard to write... |
| 20:15:47 | dstar5 | just put a option in the menus somewhere to "Update Databse" |
| 20:16:06 | zeekoe | yes |
| 20:16:47 | dstar5 | all the functions you need to pull id3 info out of the mp3s is writin |
| 20:18:20 | dstar5 | jdeonarine: wite us code to read database files :) |
| 20:18:34 | elinenbe | zeekoe: you implemented the ID3 browsing? |
| 20:18:49 | elinenbe | zeekoe: I just added a comment to the sourceforge patch tracker |
| 20:19:04 | elinenbe | It looks like you were talking about just that here! |
| 20:19:06 | dstar5 | elinenbe: that jdeonarine |
| 20:19:31 | elinenbe | ah.... |
| 20:19:38 | elinenbe | jdeonarine: you here? nice work... |
| 20:20:04 | zeekoe | jdeonarine seems to have left |
| 20:20:09 | elinenbe | jdeonarine: I like your patch. |
| 20:20:13 | elinenbe | yeah, I see that! |
| 20:21:11 | jdeonarine | hello |
| 20:21:24 | jdeonarine | was showering, but I think I came up with a way to do the caching |
| 20:21:32 | jdeonarine | I'll see if I can add that today |
| 20:21:36 | zeekoe | jdeonarine: elinenbe wants to say y0u 0wn2 |
| 20:21:40 | jdeonarine | heh |
| 20:21:48 | jdeonarine | I am l33t |
| 20:21:52 | dstar5 | jdeonarine: cacheing for what? |
| 20:22:03 | jdeonarine | so that I don't have to re-read the id3 tags every time |
| 20:22:07 | zeekoe | nice |
| 20:22:16 | jdeonarine | it won't be perfect, but I think I can probably make it work |
| 20:22:18 | zeekoe | showering is good, sometimes |
| 20:22:30 | jdeonarine | yeah, I probably should eat at some point too :) |
| 20:22:36 | dstar5 | jdeonarine: make database browsing! |
| 20:22:49 | zeekoe | speaking of eating |
| 20:22:54 | zeekoe | it's 20:22 here |
| 20:22:57 | * | zeekoe need food |
| 20:23:07 | jdeonarine | database browsing would be very hard :) |
| 20:23:13 | | Nick zeekoe is now known as zeekoe|food (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
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| 20:23:14 | dstar5 | jdeonarine: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-06/0186.shtml |
| 20:23:19 | elinenbe | jdeonarine: but it would be most awesome! |
| 20:23:20 | dstar5 | but me want it :) |
| 20:23:28 | jdeonarine | given that I can only add 18kb of code, and I've got only 2mb of memory and 10mhz processor |
| 20:23:37 | zeekoe|food | just organise your mp3s... |
| 20:23:38 | elinenbe | jdeonarine: why only 18k of code? |
| 20:23:46 | zeekoe|food | 11.0537 MHz |
| 20:23:47 | zeekoe|food | or so |
| 20:23:57 | dstar5 | zeekoe|food: see how thye have it |
| 20:24:11 | dstar5 | where you can browse by albums/artists/genre etc |
| 20:24:13 | zeekoe|food | dstar5: who has what? |
| 20:24:16 | dstar5 | that would be better |
| 20:24:21 | dstar5 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-06/0186.shtml |
| 20:24:28 | dstar5 | read the quoted text |
| 20:24:33 | jdeonarine | the current build size is 182k, and I think 200 is the max for the load-from-hdd builds |
| 20:24:58 | jdeonarine | and the more ram we eat, the less mp3 cache you can have |
| 20:25:00 | dstar5 | jdeonarine: unfortunatly :( |
| 20:25:15 | elinenbe | jdeonarine: a bootloader will solve that problem... that should not be too much of an issue. |
| 20:25:27 | jdeonarine | yeah, but someone has to approve these patches |
| 20:25:38 | jdeonarine | and I'd rather make them easy to approve than require a bootloader or something |
| 20:25:46 | elinenbe | jdeonarine: there are always plugins as well. |
| 20:25:47 | dstar5 | my poor achos has no flash :( |
| 20:26:06 | jdeonarine | yeah, plugins, but I didn't really see that the plugins can interface back to the tree browser |
| 20:26:12 | jdeonarine | seems like the plugins are loaded seperately |
| 20:26:24 | jdeonarine | and I would think you'd want to integrate with the existing tree browser |
| 20:26:39 | elinenbe | jdeonarine: If you make something that is worthy, it will be implemented. |
| 20:26:46 | zeekoe|food | and plugins can only be 16 kb, iirc (?) |
| 20:26:47 | elinenbe | what you've done already looks great! |
| 20:26:52 | jdeonarine | thank you :) |
| 20:26:53 | dstar5 | i know there is some code that can be moved to plugins... |
| 20:26:59 | dstar5 | like the playlist viewer |
| 20:27:05 | jdeonarine | I hope the maintainers agree |
| 20:29:19 | elinenbe | I'll make them agree :) |
| 20:29:25 | dstar5 | i wonder whats going on to take up some much time while the archos flashed firmware boots |
| 20:30:09 | zeekoe|food | wait(HZ*12) |
| 20:30:25 | dstar5 | maybe |
| 20:30:54 | zeekoe|food | hmm... 12 seconds isnt it? |
| 20:31:00 | dstar5 | i think some code in the debug menu can be removed |
| 20:31:03 | dstar5 | like running time |
| 20:31:08 | dstar5 | that is usekess... |
| 20:31:31 | zeekoe|food | that's about 11E6 * 12 = 133 million clocksycles |
| 20:31:46 | zeekoe|food | 132 |
| 20:32:02 | dstar5 | actually.. that is a good idea.. make that a build time option to include the debug menu.. |
| 20:32:15 | dstar5 | after all.. that will remove a bit of unneeded code |
| 20:33:25 | jdeonarine | thanks all for your support! |
| 20:33:51 | dstar5 | and did anyone know that ON+F1 went to id3 info? |
| 20:34:07 | zeekoe|food | i did |
| 20:34:09 | dstar5 | that could be removed or moved, since no one knows about it |
| 20:34:18 | zeekoe|food | just found it out by accident |
| 20:34:34 | dstar5 | there was another key combo that mutes... |
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| 20:34:42 | zeekoe|food | yep |
| 20:34:47 | zeekoe|food | on+f2 or so |
| 20:34:53 | dstar5 | thta cold be removed since no one knows about it, and plus you caqn just pause |
| 20:34:54 | zeekoe|food | who needs muting anyway |
| 20:35:05 | jdeonarine | yeah, I never understood the purpose of muting |
| 20:35:17 | jdeonarine | why do I want the song to continue when I can't hear it? |
| 20:35:25 | jdeonarine | maybe if you are watching a video? |
| 20:35:30 | dstar5 | i should make a patch with just a bunch of random fixes like that |
| 20:35:45 | dstar5 | jdeonarine: wouldnot work in video |
| 20:35:53 | dstar5 | that is a oplugin, and does not apply there |
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| 20:42:06 | dstar5 | me go by for a bit |
| 20:42:09 | dstar5 | see you |
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| 20:45:50 | zeekoe|food | uh |
| 20:45:52 | zeekoe|food | bye :) |
| 20:46:01 | | Nick zeekoe|food is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
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| 20:55:06 | | Nick midk|asleep is now known as midk (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 20:58:38 | zeekoe | midk: you should sleep some more |
| 20:58:52 | midk | egh... shh. |
| 20:59:00 | midk | i used my clock tonight |
| 20:59:05 | zeekoe | clockbox? |
| 20:59:15 | midk | yep |
| 20:59:26 | zeekoe | used it for what? |
| 20:59:49 | midk | a clock |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:10 | zeekoe | why tonight? |
| 21:00:37 | zeekoe | or are you just saying "hey, look, at least somebody thinks my clock is useful!" |
| 21:01:00 | midk | ok stfu.... |
| 21:01:05 | midk | my brother took my alarm clock. |
| 21:01:11 | zeekoe | ok |
| 21:01:20 | zeekoe | does the clock have an alarm function? |
| 21:02:45 | midk | not really. |
| 21:03:09 | zeekoe | ok |
| 21:03:15 | zeekoe | so how did you wake up? |
| 21:03:42 | midk | i woke up whenever |
| 21:03:48 | midk | but i checked my clock to see the time |
| 21:04:00 | zeekoe | ok, nice |
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| 21:04:19 | midk | .. |
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| 21:05:10 | midk | oops. |
| 21:05:15 | midk | any opinions on the update? |
| 21:05:48 | zeekoe | which update? |
| 21:05:50 | zeekoe | the clock? |
| 21:05:53 | zeekoe | oh |
| 21:05:58 | zeekoe | i have to see the progress bar |
| 21:06:01 | zeekoe | forget to look |
| 21:06:22 | midk | puh |
| 21:06:50 | midk | the credits roll is more nifty |
| 21:08:21 | zeekoe | brb |
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| 21:11:01 | zeekoe | 7h3 (?3d|75 ?011 100<5 n|(3 |
| 21:11:48 | zeekoe | ==the credits roll looks nice |
| 21:12:08 | zeekoe | never seen the credits before |
| 21:12:14 | zeekoe | they're quite well hidden |
| 21:12:30 | midk | ... |
| 21:12:34 | midk | you press ON. |
| 21:12:38 | midk | lol |
| 21:12:44 | zeekoe | uh |
| 21:12:44 | zeekoe | ok |
| 21:12:48 | midk | you mean |
| 21:12:49 | zeekoe | i thought it was on+play |
| 21:13:04 | midk | ..no. |
| 21:13:13 | zeekoe | but the credits take a loooong time |
| 21:13:30 | midk | if you want to really read the names, go ahead. |
| 21:13:31 | midk | :] |
| 21:13:47 | midk | brb |
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| 21:15:35 | zeekoe | r0cK80X 0wn4G3 |
| 21:16:09 | midk | |2 () ( |< |3 () >< P \/\/ |\| /\ (- [- |
| 21:16:11 | zeekoe | 1 PHouNd 4 L3375p33k 7r4N5l47or, 15N7 17 N1c3? |
| 21:16:30 | midk | muh |
| 21:16:41 | zeekoe | and a leetifier for xchat |
| 21:16:50 | zeekoe | but that one 5uX0rz |
| 21:17:06 | zeekoe | ?0(<b0x 0wn4g3 |
| 21:17:20 | zeekoe | http://www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html |
| 21:17:23 | midk | what do you think about the arrows at the mode selector? |
| 21:17:30 | zeekoe | uh |
| 21:17:34 | zeekoe | they look like arrows |
| 21:17:40 | midk | never mind |
| 21:18:17 | zeekoe | i like the binary clock |
| 21:18:38 | midk | dstar5 wrote a fuzzy mode... but i don't think i'm going to put it in |
| 21:18:45 | zeekoe | fuzzy mode? |
| 21:19:07 | midk | as in... Five past six |
| 21:19:10 | zeekoe | ok |
| 21:19:14 | midk | quarter after seven |
| 21:19:17 | zeekoe | that's cool |
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| 21:19:21 | midk | ten til nine |
| 21:19:26 | Smooth | Hi |
| 21:19:29 | zeekoe | hi |
| 21:19:33 | Smooth | Whatever happened to othello plugin? |
| 21:19:41 | zeekoe | it died in my hands |
| 21:19:44 | midk | it was removed |
| 21:19:46 | Smooth | why |
| 21:19:54 | midk | it was authored by bluechip |
| 21:19:56 | zeekoe | s/hands/arms |
| 21:19:58 | midk | apparently zagor didn't like that |
| 21:20:10 | zeekoe | is that so bad? |
| 21:20:18 | midk | i didn't decide, zeekoe |
| 21:20:22 | midk | it was really stupid imo |
| 21:20:24 | Smooth | yeaa |
| 21:20:33 | Smooth | m********n has been quiet in sourceforge |
| 21:20:48 | midk | where's that tracktheripper? |
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| 21:21:08 | Smooth | be quiet mikeholden |
| 21:21:23 | zeekoe | mikeh0lden |
| 21:21:41 | Smooth | no, mik3holden |
| 21:21:47 | Smooth | or m1keholden |
| 21:21:48 | zeekoe | m1keholden |
| 21:21:51 | zeekoe | :P |
| 21:21:56 | zeekoe | m|<3h01d3n |
| 21:22:14 | Smooth | or nedlohekim |
| 21:22:22 | zeekoe | ppmmffpmpmppmfpppfpmfmpmmppppp |
| 21:22:24 | midk | Smooth, why do you have a mikeholden obsession? |
| 21:22:37 | Smooth | he is a bully |
| 21:22:37 | zeekoe | don't you understand? |
| 21:22:42 | zeekoe | he _is_ mikeholden |
| 21:22:53 | zeekoe | he just doesnt know yet |
| 21:22:59 | midk | j00 R T3h g4Y |
| 21:23:01 | midk | i knew it. |
| 21:23:31 | Smooth | never, ever trust anyone who's neame begins with mi |
| 21:23:38 | zeekoe | muahaha |
| 21:23:55 | Smooth | they are now selling ipod minis in Argos |
| 21:24:08 | zeekoe | ? |
| 21:24:15 | zeekoe | archos is selling ipod minis? |
| 21:25:03 | Smooth | If the ipod mini uses a CFII Microdrive I wonder if its possible to substitute it for a 4Gb Type II CompactFlash card |
| 21:25:51 | midk | yes, but they cost thousands |
| 21:25:56 | Smooth | so? |
| 21:26:14 | zeekoe | the new ipod minis are going to use 6 GB 1" hard disks, perhaps without CF interface |
| 21:26:24 | zeekoe | so the old ones have CF interface |
| 21:26:37 | Smooth | ok |
| 21:29:43 | Smooth | whatever |
| 21:30:23 | zeekoe | hm |
| 21:30:30 | zeekoe | what's all this stuff in the logs: |
| 21:30:31 | zeekoe | 00.52.09 # <zeekoe> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/guest/apps' |
| 21:30:31 | zeekoe | 00.52.10 *** Alert Mode level 6 |
| 21:30:46 | zeekoe | 00.50.57 Nick zeekoe|toofbruzj is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 21:30:46 | zeekoe | 00.50.57 DBUG Enqueued KICK zeekoe |
| 21:32:24 | zeekoe | Smooth: you dont want ipod mini |
| 21:32:27 | zeekoe | they suck |
| 21:32:31 | zeekoe | they dont have rockbox |
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| 21:32:45 | zeekoe | muahha |
| 21:35:16 | zeekoe | gotta go |
| 21:35:36 | zeekoe | morning/noon/nite |
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| 21:54:56 | midk | bbl |
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| 22:42:50 | amiconn | hi Jörg |
| 22:43:05 | [IDC]Dragon | good evening Jens |
| 22:43:38 | [IDC]Dragon | friday I was looking for you, but don't remember why... |
| 22:44:15 | amiconn | I got it Saturday morning - didn't logout before falling asleep... |
| 22:44:42 | [IDC]Dragon | on the keyboard? |
| 22:45:16 | amiconn | Of course not... |
| 22:46:02 | [IDC]Dragon | one thought: you keep telling people how to make videos with the yuv intermediate step, this is so retro |
| 22:46:09 | amiconn | I'm currently trying to const-police as much as possible. I found a variable I'm wondering about |
| 22:46:24 | [IDC]Dragon | the DirectShow tool is much better |
| 22:46:33 | [IDC]Dragon | const, OK |
| 22:46:48 | dstar5 | amiconn, i was thinking... couldn't the debug menu be taken out, and made just a compile time option? it should save a bit of memory |
| 22:46:51 | [IDC]Dragon | are you working on the font? |
| 22:47:11 | amiconn | Yes, the command line tool chain is retro, but I didn't even install the DirectShow thingy |
| 22:47:23 | [IDC]Dragon | dstar5: some of it is outdated, some could be a plugin |
| 22:47:47 | dstar5 | then take out the outdated stuff :) |
| 22:48:00 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: No, not yet. Currently I'm walking all source files that contribute to the .data section if the data is really variable |
| 22:48:24 | [IDC]Dragon | how much did you find? |
| 22:48:56 | jdeonarine | hello all :) |
| 22:49:17 | amiconn | I'm not yet through, but found 86 bytes in 3 files yet. |
| 22:49:37 | [IDC]Dragon | big runtime improvement ;-) |
| 22:50:10 | [IDC]Dragon | soory, I know, I'm a perfectionist myself |
| 22:50:12 | amiconn | Yes, but if I do stuff, I want to do it all the way through |
| 22:50:25 | [IDC]Dragon | (at least sometimes) |
| 22:50:34 | dstar5 | heh |
| 22:50:39 | dstar5 | i think lots of us are |
| 22:51:00 | dstar5 | including me |
| 22:51:57 | amiconn | AH, found it (that variable). Can be const'ed as well |
| 22:53:00 | [IDC]Dragon | is there a way to get a more detailled mapfile? |
| 22:54:12 | amiconn | In what way? Iiuc the mapfile can only contain public symbols, because it's generated by the linker. Unfortunately "static" produces hidden symbols... |
| 22:56:06 | dwihno | Just a quicky... Has the pitch control been removed? |
| 22:56:12 | amiconn | Grr, warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type |
| 22:56:36 | dstar5 | dwihno, why would it be removed? |
| 22:56:59 | dwihno | on+play used to trigger the pitch control |
| 22:57:39 | dstar5 | umm it was always just holding on iirc |
| 22:57:46 | dwihno | ah, it was. |
| 22:57:48 | dwihno | me so senile |
| 22:58:06 | dwihno | is the pitch triggered immediately or does it still require a track change? |
| 22:58:21 | dstar5 | immediatly |
| 22:58:34 | dwihno | (that behaviour appeared after some changes as well) |
| 22:58:56 | dstar5 | last time i played with it atleast |
| 22:59:13 | dstar5 | heh it has come to my attention now that the pitch setting is not saved |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:41 | dwihno | true |
| 23:00:49 | dwihno | time for a fresh cvs checkout |
| 23:00:59 | dwihno | hm |
| 23:01:03 | dwihno | cvs fails |
| 23:01:15 | dwihno | might be my connection |
| 23:01:52 | dstar5 | did you do cvs update? |
| 23:02:33 | dwihno | I get connection timed out |
| 23:04:41 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Do you remember where the STR() macro is defined? I'm currently fiddling with the opt_items structure... |
| 23:04:52 | [IDC]Dragon | in talk.h ? |
| 23:05:38 | [IDC]Dragon | the options are const already... |
| 23:05:45 | amiconn | Ok, thanks. |
| 23:06:04 | amiconn | One of the option values actually isn't const... |
| 23:06:28 | [IDC]Dragon | one of the structs, you mean? |
| 23:06:31 | amiconn | No |
| 23:07:30 | amiconn | In settings.c, there is a char rec_base_directory[], initialized with "/recordings" |
| 23:07:56 | [IDC]Dragon | that kind, aha |
| 23:08:07 | amiconn | If I change this to const (in settings.h as well), I get my beloved warning (see above). |
| 23:09:00 | amiconn | To make this go away, I have to change the declaration of struct opt_items. The first member has to be a const char* |
| 23:09:26 | [IDC]Dragon | ok |
| 23:09:34 | amiconn | As these are often initailized via the STR() macro, I wonder if this may break something |
| 23:10:35 | amiconn | Aside of that, I even have to look into lcd_puts(), if I can declare its char* argument constant |
| 23:12:17 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm sure you can |
| 23:12:28 | [IDC]Dragon | it won't modify the string |
| 23:12:44 | amiconn | Unfortunately I can't... it munges the string on the sim |
| 23:13:08 | amiconn | Ah no, it doesn't |
| 23:13:17 | [IDC]Dragon | I hate these snowball effects |
| 23:13:53 | amiconn | Once I'm through with const policeing, it should be much easier to declare things const... |
| 23:14:13 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, I'm looking forward to that |
| 23:14:26 | [IDC]Dragon | something else: i still have no working gcc 3.3.1 |
| 23:14:47 | [IDC]Dragon | gives me a strange asm error |
| 23:15:45 | amiconn | Hmm. Do you use Eric Lassauge's package, or did you try to compile yourself? |
| 23:16:07 | [IDC]Dragon | I used the binary |
| 23:16:31 | amiconn | Btw: modifying lcd_puts() in turn requires modifying lcd_puts_style(), in turn requires modifying lcd_getstringsize() ... |
| 23:16:55 | [IDC]Dragon | this is the snowball I was talking about |
| 23:17:24 | amiconn | (gcc) Hmm, strange, that's what I use, and it works perfectly (unlike my failed attempts to compile gcc 3.3.x on cygwin) |
| 23:17:57 | [IDC]Dragon | in mine, the asm complains about a -big option |
| 23:18:25 | [IDC]Dragon | I guess this is endianess, but I can't find such in our makefiles |
| 23:19:21 | dstar5 | humm |
| 23:19:22 | dstar5 | tar: gcc-3.4.1/gcc/ada/lib-xref.adb: Cannot change ownership to uid 515, gid 515: Operation not permitted |
| 23:19:27 | dstar5 | (while untaring gcc) |
| 23:19:34 | dstar5 | any ideas? |
| 23:19:45 | dstar5 | i tried the bzip.. gives the the same errors |
| 23:19:47 | amiconn | maybe your sh-binutils don't match your sh-gcc? |
| 23:19:58 | amiconn | (directed to [IDC]Dragon) |
| 23:20:16 | [IDC]Dragon | do the binutils come with it? |
| 23:20:31 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm not familiar with the concept |
| 23:20:43 | amiconn | It's a separate package, available from Eric's mirror as well |
| 23:21:13 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
| 23:21:36 | amiconn | The binutils contain (among other things I don't know about yet) the assembler and linker. So if you use a newer gcc with an older asm, it may well be that it doesn't work |
| 23:21:46 | dstar5 | heh, those errors go away when i untar elsewhere |
| 23:22:01 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 22 minutes and 48 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:22:01 | * | [IDC]Dragon is downloading |
| 23:22:07 | amiconn | Grrrrrrrrrrr, now it complains in plugin.c |
| 23:23:25 | [IDC]Dragon | will the old compiler work with newer binutils? |
| 23:24:18 | jdeonarine | I believe that the versions are likely linked |
| 23:24:48 | amiconn | It should (although the gcc & binutils packages from eric's mirrors use a different prefix than those containing gcc 3.0.4, so you can simply select between them by changing the PATH) |
| 23:27:18 | amiconn | Yeah, now it compiles without warning... I guess I should do a test now... |
| 23:30:40 | dstar5 | i forget how fast linux is at compiling :) |
| 23:33:13 | dstar5 | what was it you were noe supposed to do with rm? rm -rf /usr ? |
| 23:33:17 | [IDC]Dragon | I still get strange errors |
| 23:33:29 | [IDC]Dragon | I give up for today |
| 23:33:33 | [IDC]Dragon | goodnight |
| 23:33:52 | amiconn | Nite.. |
| 23:33:59 | amiconn | Btw, it seems to work |
| 23:44:31 | amiconn | Found another table that wasn't const - rec_timner_seconds[] |
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| 23:51:18 | dstar5 | bye |
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