00:02:34 | pvh | zeekoe: "Switch box" or "fuse box", usually. |
00:02:51 | zeekoe | yeah |
00:02:54 | zeekoe | fusebox |
00:02:56 | zeekoe | i knew it |
00:03:06 | amiconn | Grrr, this also doesn't werk. |
00:04:48 | zeekoe | amiconn: what if you made it a plugin? |
00:04:58 | zeekoe | not that nice, but probably works |
00:06:03 | amiconn | That wouldn't be possible (recording is deeply integrated with the rockbox core) |
00:06:45 | amiconn | I'd very much like to know wtf is going on with that |
00:07:16 | zeekoe | or just execute it in ram... |
00:07:32 | zeekoe | does archos run out of rom? |
00:29:12 | amiconn | Wth was that??? Now it worked _once_ after boot (even for several recordings, as long as I didn't leave the recording screen) |
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00:29:32 | amiconn | After that, still nothing. I gues I'll give up for today. |
00:29:41 | zeekoe | cool! |
00:29:46 | midk | your efforts are appreciated... or something. ;] |
00:29:51 | midk | jk. of course they are. |
00:30:12 | zeekoe | rockbox doesnt record always too |
00:30:29 | amiconn | I guess I'll need Linus and his logic analyzer to shed some light on that phenomenon... |
00:33:46 | zeekoe | shed shed |
00:33:58 | zeekoe | sorry |
00:34:02 | zeekoe | it's late here.. |
00:34:11 | zeekoe | doing weird things |
00:35:47 | midk | zeekoe, maybe you can test another build in a little bit of clock? |
00:36:09 | zeekoe | why not :) |
00:36:18 | zeekoe | but my plugin api is incompatible now |
00:36:40 | amiconn | zeekoe: If you added the new function(s) at the end, it shouldn't |
00:37:39 | zeekoe | hmm |
00:37:45 | zeekoe | so i should add them at the end |
00:38:05 | amiconn | Yup. There is also a comment that says so... |
00:38:39 | zeekoe | in plugin.c or plugin.h or both? |
00:38:42 | zeekoe | oh comment... |
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00:42:56 | zeekoe | midk: ok, send me the clock |
00:43:36 | midk | hang on |
00:45:33 | zeekoe | hanging |
00:49:07 | midk | should be done.. let me just test it real quick |
00:51:38 | midk | oops, bug. |
00:51:40 | midk | fixed |
00:52:40 | midk | oki oki. |
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01:05:53 | midk | leave now. |
01:06:02 | zeekoe | me too i think |
01:06:09 | dstar5 | midk: why? |
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05:09:42 | dstar5 | i love you midk |
05:09:50 | midk | feel free to drop dead |
05:09:58 | dstar5 | ok |
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05:37:05 | Jonodude | Hello1 |
05:37:07 | Jonodude | !* |
05:37:49 | midk | hi there |
05:37:59 | Jonodude | how are you? |
05:38:57 | midk | i'm fine thanks |
05:38:57 | midk | you? |
05:39:06 | Jonodude | I'm great. |
05:39:14 | Jonodude | Especially since I finally decided to install Rockbox. ;) |
05:39:23 | midk | :] |
05:39:29 | Jonodude | I have a question though |
05:39:42 | Jonodude | well two actually |
05:40:14 | midk | feel free to ask them.. |
05:40:30 | Jonodude | well, it's about charging the batteries with Rockbox |
05:40:42 | midk | ..ask.. |
05:40:47 | Jonodude | should I turn it on first so Rockbox loads and then start charging? |
05:41:04 | midk | recorder or player? |
05:41:09 | Jonodude | Recorder. |
05:41:20 | midk | i'd suggest turning it on first... but either way works |
05:41:21 | Jonodude | Is it any different from using the default charging firmware thing? |
05:41:35 | midk | rockbox has a special "charging algorithm" that charges them better |
05:41:46 | midk | less wear and tear on the batteries with rockbox.. |
05:42:07 | midk | have you considered flashing? then when you plug it in rockbox charges instead of having to turn it on first |
05:42:08 | Jonodude | Cool. |
05:42:29 | Jonodude | Ah... I read the Battery FAQ... must not have seen that. |
05:42:34 | Jonodude | that |
05:42:38 | Jonodude | that's a good idea* |
05:43:06 | midk | plus you get a ~3 second boot tome |
05:43:08 | midk | time* |
05:43:17 | Jonodude | uh, where do I set that |
05:43:19 | Jonodude | ? |
05:43:26 | midk | that's only if you've flashed |
05:43:38 | midk | then rockbox boots directly instead of the archos firmware |
05:43:47 | Jonodude | how do I do it? |
05:44:06 | midk | here you go |
05:44:06 | midk | http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/FlashingRockbox |
05:45:52 | Jonodude | ah, well, this looks a bit too complicated for me. :\ |
05:46:10 | Jonodude | sounds cool though |
05:46:11 | midk | it's actually pretty simple.. if you want i can help you through it |
05:47:19 | Jonodude | so... do I or do I not have to take it apart? :P |
05:47:41 | midk | you don't have to take it apart. |
05:48:03 | Jonodude | oh good, for some reason I thought I did. :P |
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05:48:16 | midk | all you have to realize is that there is a small small chance of a fail, if your batteries are close to dead |
05:48:31 | Jonodude | Ah, well, I just charged them up tonight. :) |
05:48:52 | midk | you'd more than likely be fine. it's one of those situations where i'd like to guarantee it would work, but i just can't :) |
05:49:30 | Jonodude | so no one sues you or anything. ;) |
05:49:57 | midk | quite a few have flashed. probably over a hundred. i recall only 2 or 3 fails. and one of them was because someone purposefully did something wrong... idiot. ;] |
05:50:02 | Jonodude | so what do I do first? |
05:50:25 | midk | ok start your box |
05:50:46 | Jonodude | (long wait) okay! |
05:50:50 | midk | go to the menu, choose "info", then "debug - keep out", then "Dump ROM contents" |
05:51:13 | Jonodude | okay... red light flashed a bit... done? |
05:51:18 | midk | yeah. |
05:51:22 | midk | now "view hardware info" |
05:51:42 | Jonodude | yes? |
05:51:44 | midk | does it say on one line "Flash: M=BF D=D6".. or something like so? |
05:52:03 | Jonodude | it says "Flash: M=?? D=??" |
05:52:13 | midk | agh.. you can't flash :\ |
05:52:21 | midk | sucky! it's rare, but it happens |
05:52:21 | Jonodude | aww.... why? |
05:52:29 | midk | you have no programmable flash |
05:52:41 | Jonodude | Why? |
05:52:58 | midk | you just don't. most models do, a couple don't |
05:53:07 | midk | different chip |
05:53:13 | Jonodude | Bah. |
05:53:27 | midk | of course you could always accidentally drop it and get an rma for a new one which may or may not have the correct chip ;]] |
05:53:37 | midk | *cough cough* |
05:53:55 | Jonodude | My sister wants to borrow it tomorrow. ;) |
05:54:15 | midk | dah.. oh well :p |
05:55:05 | * | Jonodude is saddened |
05:55:25 | Jonodude | Well anyway... |
05:55:46 | midk | well... next time you've got a few weeks you don't need it be sure to take it on a rigorous hike or something. |
05:56:13 | Jonodude | heh heh |
05:56:14 | midk | maybe go swimming! a few seconds should do it |
05:56:18 | Jonodude | haha |
05:56:22 | midk | :D |
05:56:30 | Jonodude | would they really accept that? |
05:56:56 | midk | not if you told them you dropped it off a cliff or jumped in a pool with it |
05:58:54 | Jonodude | So anyway, what happens when the battery is done charging? |
05:59:17 | midk | it just stops filling it.. |
05:59:36 | Jonodude | I don't know if this is correct, but it seems that with the default charging firmware thing, if I leave it plugged in, it just starts over again. |
05:59:43 | midk | rockbox has a trickle charge feature, on by default.. it keeps it at or very near 100% by charging very little when it gets high |
05:59:53 | midk | starts over? |
06:00 |
06:00:29 | Jonodude | It seems that way. Sometimes I leave it to charge overnight, and when I wake up, it's still not done |
06:00:56 | Jonodude | And sometimes it seems to take very little time, when I'm actually keeping an eye on it. |
06:00:57 | midk | weird.. |
06:01:16 | midk | well charge it with rockbox running and see how it goes |
06:01:27 | Jonodude | Sounds good. :) |
06:02:23 | Jonodude | Also, Rockbox says my battery capacity is 1500 mAh, it's actually 1800 mAh, or so says the battery |
06:02:39 | midk | change the capacity |
06:02:52 | midk | rockbox thinks the battery capacity is 1500 because you didn't set it to 1800 - it doesn't auto-detect |
06:03:09 | midk | it defaults to 1500, the archos battery capacity. |
06:03:16 | Jonodude | oh... where do I do that? |
06:03:37 | midk | menu -> general settings -> system -> battery |
06:04:29 | Jonodude | I've got "Deep Discharge", "Trickle Charge" and "Battery Capacity"... is there supposed to be something else? |
06:04:42 | midk | nope |
06:05:13 | Jonodude | oh... I pressed "Up"... it worked. :P |
06:05:33 | midk | :] good. |
06:06:23 | Jonodude | cool. So how does that affect things? |
06:06:28 | midk | hmm.. have you by chance tried the clock plugin yet? i need a little bit of input on a new settings screen |
06:06:43 | midk | it more accurately displays % and time remaining |
06:06:43 | Jonodude | No, but I was wondering about that one |
06:06:51 | Jonodude | ah, very good. |
06:06:58 | Jonodude | let's see... clock... |
06:07:05 | midk | i wrote the clock.. :) |
06:07:07 | Jonodude | 00:08 |
06:07:13 | Jonodude | Not bad, really |
06:07:21 | midk | the buttons change things... |
06:07:24 | midk | f1 if you need help. |
06:08:14 | Jonodude | ooh, the non-analog clock is nice |
06:08:36 | midk | digital - linus wrote that one. |
06:08:45 | midk | for lcd mode i used the digital "engine" |
06:09:17 | Jonodude | Something to consider: 12-hour time |
06:09:23 | midk | i did that |
06:09:33 | midk | again, check f1 for help - f3 is an options screen |
06:09:40 | Jonodude | oh, never mind... |
06:09:45 | midk | pretty much anything you can think of is configurable |
06:12:03 | Jonodude | Hey, after I do f3, then go back to the clock, the function buttons don't work |
06:12:21 | midk | hmm. |
06:12:28 | midk | you must have a REALLY old build of it. |
06:12:34 | midk | is there a logo when you start it up? |
06:12:48 | Jonodude | No, just says "F1 for Help!" |
06:12:55 | midk | haha! |
06:13:03 | midk | ok unzip this to your archos |
06:13:04 | midk | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily/recorder/rockbox-recorder-20040805.zip |
06:13:09 | midk | OH but |
06:13:11 | midk | save your settings first |
06:13:15 | midk | it will reset them. |
06:13:28 | midk | menu - general settings - system - manage settings - save .ccg file |
06:13:31 | midk | cfg* |
06:13:56 | midk | when it gives you a keyboard just make not of the name - probably config00.cfg - and then hit OK |
06:14:03 | Jonodude | ...or "write .cfg file"? |
06:14:12 | midk | unzip the zip to the box, and when you reboot rockbox load that cfg file |
06:14:14 | midk | yeah, that's it |
06:14:57 | midk | heh, well that last build you had of clock was awful - please erase it from memory |
06:15:13 | Jonodude | haha |
06:15:28 | Jonodude | this newer one must really be something, then. ;) |
06:16:06 | midk | i don't want to brag, but imo, yeah, it really is :) i've included a lot more settings, a few different modes.. blech. just try it.. ;] too hard to list everything that happened |
06:16:21 | Jonodude | okay, so I had another question... |
06:16:50 | midk | sure |
06:17:34 | Jonodude | when playing a song, if I go to Menu-Info-Show ID3 Info , it doesn't seem to recognize or access the genre |
06:17:44 | Jonodude | when I'm sure there is |
06:18:09 | midk | hmm.. well one tip i have for you is that at the WPS, F1+ON is a shortcut to the id3 info menu |
06:18:30 | midk | as for it not recognizing, i have no idea on that one... i never played around with that code. although i was considering writing a new id3 viewer |
06:20:20 | Jonodude | so is it possibly a bug? |
06:20:31 | midk | could be, yeah |
06:22:47 | Jonodude | I think there was one other thing, but I forgot... |
06:22:55 | Jonodude | but I'm really enjoying the Rockbox. |
06:22:57 | Jonodude | :) |
06:23:01 | midk | good. :) |
06:23:09 | midk | (that you enjoy it) |
06:24:13 | Jonodude | I especially enjoy that it can display ID3v2, thus show the whole name. |
06:28:42 | Jonodude | I'm gonna go load that thing you linked me to... |
06:28:49 | midk | sounds good.. |
06:29:00 | midk | then perhaps you could give me a little input on one thing? |
06:39:42 | Jonodude | quick question: |
06:39:52 | midk | sure |
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06:40:11 | Jonodude | there are two files titled something like "internal_rom_0000_FFFF" - are those from the ROM dump thing I did earlier? |
06:40:25 | midk | yeah. you can delete them |
06:40:29 | Jonodude | Okay. |
06:40:30 | Jonodude | BRB |
06:40:42 | midk | surely |
06:42:47 | Jonodude | silly question: is it okay to just pull the USB cable out of the player while it's still on? |
06:43:32 | Jonodude | ah... hang on |
06:44:08 | midk | hmm.. what model? |
06:44:41 | midk | i seem to find it's ok with the recorder 20 which is usb 2. any of the other models (with the exception of fm, and v2) have a problem with it since they're usb1 |
06:45:24 | midk | your changes don't take effect with the usb1 models if you unplug them - if you copied a new file with a usb2 model and unplugged you'd see ti fine, but if you copied a new file with a usb1 model and unplugged you wouldn't see the new file. |
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06:50:37 | Jonodude | ah. Okay |
06:50:41 | Jonodude | I've got Recorder 20. |
06:50:43 | Jonodude | So I'm cool. |
06:50:55 | Jonodude | hey, how do I delete stuff? |
06:51:34 | midk | on+play on the file |
06:51:37 | midk | hold on, press play. |
06:51:43 | midk | you can delete, rename, etc. |
06:52:52 | Jonodude | Okay, thanks. |
06:53:16 | Jonodude | What input did you want about the clock? |
06:53:34 | midk | well give it a try out first |
06:53:42 | midk | most importantly the settings menu |
06:53:47 | midk | (at f3) |
06:54:19 | Jonodude | looks fine to me |
06:57:26 | midk | ok so you see how it works right |
06:57:27 | midk | ? |
06:57:39 | Jonodude | Yeah, certainly. :) |
06:58:22 | midk | ok.. so i have a new setup for this menu here (as far as button handling and checkboxes). |
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07:00:49 | midk | currently the new settings menu is only at analog mode |
07:00:57 | midk | so digital/lcd/binary/full still acts the same |
07:01:13 | midk | so feel free to try the old way under digital and the new way under analog |
07:01:13 | Jonodude | okay... |
07:01:20 | Jonodude | Okay |
07:01:23 | Jonodude | I gotta |
07:01:25 | Jonodude | go* |
07:01:30 | midk | hmm.. sure |
07:01:31 | Jonodude | I'll come back later |
07:01:34 | midk | seeya later |
07:01:41 | Jonodude | It was talking with ya and thanks for the help. :) |
07:01:55 | Jonodude | was nice* |
07:01:56 | midk | np |
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13:03:48 | |[Kwietsche3]| | hallo ? |
13:04:08 | |[Kwietsche3]| | germans here ? |
13:07:16 | midk | hey |
13:07:18 | midk | not i. |
13:07:42 | |[Kwietsche3]| | mh |
13:07:50 | |[Kwietsche3]| | hey i saw you yesterdey |
13:07:52 | |[Kwietsche3]| | ay |
13:07:59 | |[Kwietsche3]| | right ? |
13:08:34 | midk | possibly.. can't remember.. i think so. :] |
13:08:47 | |[Kwietsche3]| | hehe |
13:09:16 | |[Kwietsche3]| | is someone from this channel germen ? |
13:09:22 | |[Kwietsche3]| | do you know one ? |
13:09:40 | midk | not that i know of, sorru |
13:09:42 | midk | sorry* |
13:09:51 | |[Kwietsche3]| | mh shit |
13:10:01 | midk | i can try my best to explain a solution if you have a problem |
13:10:40 | edx | germen? German? |
13:10:58 | edx | <−− German |
13:11:02 | |[Kwietsche3]| | mh i wanne install avos but if i make something wrong i have a problem so i search someone who can explain me how to install perfect |
13:11:05 | |[Kwietsche3]| | edx ?? |
13:11:06 | |[Kwietsche3]| | deutsch ? |
13:11:08 | edx | jo |
13:11:28 | midk | yeah, that's it.. i remember now.. you were in #avos.. or #linav |
13:11:56 | midk | maybe tomorrow i can help you through it. it's about 4 oclock am and i have to go to bed |
13:11:58 | |[Kwietsche3]| | yeah |
13:12:05 | |[Kwietsche3]| | ah ok |
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13:19:56 | midk | oops! |
13:20:13 | midk | amiconn, http://rockbox.haxx.se/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/clock.c.diff?r1=1.13&r2=1.14 |
13:20:37 | midk | Line 219 |
13:23:24 | amiconn | midk: Your first const array ;-) |
13:23:56 | midk | :) i guess i was a little too brutal with my policing. |
13:25:11 | midk | uh oh. |
13:25:14 | midk | i broke something |
13:25:26 | midk | and i think i can guess what is wrong |
13:25:48 | midk | ...and he was correct. |
13:26:30 | amiconn | What's wrong with it? |
13:27:14 | midk | 'warning: duplicate const' |
13:27:21 | midk | oddly, i didn't get that on the target build and overlooked it on the simulator build. |
13:30:41 | midk | hmm.. bedtime. nite |
13:30:47 | amiconn | This is in line 267... |
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13:30:59 | midk | hmm? |
13:31:19 | midk | oh.. |
13:31:38 | midk | const unsigned char timesup[] = { |
13:31:40 | midk | yeah. |
13:31:45 | midk | i just fixed that. |
13:32:07 | midk | hmm |
13:32:17 | midk | but the cvs viewer considers it line 219 |
13:32:18 | midk | odd. |
13:32:59 | midk | ah, it's saying that was like 219 in the last build |
13:33:02 | midk | line* |
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13:33:11 | mattzz | g'day |
13:33:19 | midk | either way, it should be fixed.. if it isn't, feel free to take care of it :) |
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13:34:13 | amiconn | midk: I don't get a warning... |
13:34:35 | midk|sleep | amiconn: nor i, like i said.. but for some reason it shows up in the logs |
13:39:10 | amiconn | |sleep">midk|sleep: Obviously you did fix this in the meantime. In 1.14, there was 'const const' written in line 268, which will of course give you a warning |
13:39:30 | amiconn | mattzz: Hi |
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16:25:44 | nevs | hi |
16:26:14 | nevs | anyone here? |
16:26:32 | dwihno | me is |
16:27:03 | nevs | hi |
16:27:08 | nevs | i was wondering |
16:27:26 | nevs | is it possible for there to be a menu item with the top 20 songs played? |
16:29:02 | nevs | ? |
16:30:15 | dwihno | well |
16:30:20 | dwihno | theoretically, yes |
16:30:23 | dwihno | currently, no |
16:30:40 | nevs | ok |
16:31:07 | nevs | and i was plugins can u dl for rockbox |
16:31:10 | nevs | what* |
16:31:51 | nevs | coz there is a menu item saying open with, but i have no plugins |
16:34:16 | dwihno | How did you install it? |
16:34:27 | dwihno | The distributions comes with the plugins |
16:35:03 | nevs | erm the last time i updated i tried out the new auto installer |
16:35:09 | dwihno | okay |
16:35:30 | dwihno | try checking /.rockbox/ for a directory containing .rock files |
16:35:41 | nevs | ok |
16:35:53 | nevs | oh and one more thing |
16:36:11 | nevs | when you scroll in the root directory, is it possible to make it scroll faster? |
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16:36:23 | nevs | i have changed all the scroll settings to there fastest |
16:36:31 | nevs | but it is still slow |
16:36:33 | blufrog | mmm ahhh home again |
16:36:49 | nevs | and i have a folder per artsit, so i have a hell of a lot of folders |
16:36:49 | blufrog | hi everyone. wahts new/ |
16:37:27 | nevs | hi |
16:38:35 | blufrog | nevs whats up. what you talking about |
16:39:48 | nevs | erm |
16:39:57 | blufrog | ok ... cyas |
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16:40:04 | nevs | hello |
16:40:06 | nevs | u going |
16:40:17 | blufrog | maybe soon |
16:40:20 | nevs | well |
16:40:31 | blufrog | u takinh bout archos? |
16:40:33 | nevs | how do u make rockbox scroll through the root directory quicker |
16:40:35 | dwihno | nevs: what do you mean by scrolling faster? |
16:40:46 | nevs | so it goes quicker |
16:41:00 | dwihno | nevs: scrolling vertically? well, you could hold the "on" button when pressing up/down to achieve a pageup/pagedown effect |
16:42:13 | nevs | that works |
16:42:17 | nevs | makes it faster |
16:42:26 | nevs | but can i make it do that without having to press on |
16:42:51 | nevs | its still to slow |
16:43:08 | nevs | i have folders named a-z in artists |
16:43:44 | blufrog | are you using an archos studio 20? a recorder 20? recorder v.2? ... 340..? gmini..? |
16:43:54 | dwihno | then test the original firmware and you'll see slow ;) |
16:45:22 | nevs | using the studio 20 |
16:45:44 | blufrog | if i were you, i would make ten directories |
16:45:50 | nevs | no the original firmware is soooo slow |
16:47:01 | nevs | if it wasnt for rockbox, the archos would be crap |
16:47:12 | blufrog | one of them A-C and one D-F and one G-K, L-M, N-P, Q-R, S, T-V and W-Z |
16:47:33 | nevs | nah the on+ method will do me fine i reckon |
16:47:46 | nevs | thx for that tip dwihno |
16:47:56 | dwihno | no problemo |
16:48:06 | blufrog | hey nevs, why dont you just buy a ipod, then you will know what crap really is |
16:48:15 | nevs | I HATE IPOD |
16:48:21 | blufrog | ipods more like crap spraypainted gold |
16:48:23 | nevs | all my firends have them |
16:48:32 | blufrog | really? all your gay friends |
16:48:35 | nevs | i got my studio 3-4 years ago |
16:48:49 | nevs | and everyone was amazed at mp3s lol |
16:48:49 | blufrog | the recorder is much much better than the studio |
16:49:03 | nevs | now ppl go , nice brick |
16:49:04 | blufrog | i recently put my HD back in the studio, and yeah it does kinda suck. |
16:49:15 | nevs | but the ipod is not an mp3 player, its a fashion accessory |
16:49:31 | nevs | why is the recorder so much better |
16:49:33 | blufrog | buy a recorder and get a HD upgrade. its nice |
16:49:43 | dwihno | the recorder is DA shiznat... |
16:49:47 | blufrog | recorder boots faster, and you can see about 7 titles at once |
16:49:49 | nevs | i dont need to record from any audio source |
16:49:50 | dwihno | the font stuff makes it all worthwile |
16:50:03 | dwihno | it has a lcd display instead of charcell |
16:50:06 | nevs | just coz the wrting is smaller |
16:50:09 | blufrog | recorder also lets you see all the info on the Currently playing track |
16:50:25 | nevs | i brought my studio 20 for £210 |
16:50:43 | blufrog | you can see Title, length, trackno., size of the files, what its recorded at, artist, all the ID3 tag info |
16:50:52 | blufrog | i bought my recorder20 for $70 |
16:50:53 | nevs | i dont need that crap |
16:50:57 | nevs | 70$? |
16:51:00 | nevs | how |
16:51:01 | blufrog | yeah nevs, ya do |
16:51:12 | blufrog | recorder is better than sex with a dead horse |
16:51:19 | nevs | wtf |
16:51:29 | blufrog | i bought it on ebay, cause someone didnt have the powercord and couldnt test it |
16:51:46 | blufrog | so i bought it, plugged it in, scandisked it, and it works like new |
16:51:47 | nevs | the gemni looks good |
16:51:52 | dwihno | blufrog: hah, cool! |
16:52:03 | blufrog | recorder ist better, cause of the batteries |
16:52:11 | nevs | why |
16:52:15 | dwihno | Yeah... I prefer regular batteries anytime! |
16:52:20 | nevs | oh comapred to the gemni |
16:52:30 | blufrog | AA nimhs man. you can charge up about 20 of them at once and play the recorder for a week |
16:52:36 | nevs | i got 2500mah batteries last ages |
16:52:39 | dwihno | Otherwise, Archos' can halt the product cycle anytime by simple stopping the battery supply |
16:52:59 | blufrog | aa nimhs make the recorder superior |
16:53:14 | nevs | yes but the recodre is even bigger than the studio |
16:53:22 | dwihno | the studio also uses AA batts. |
16:53:23 | blufrog | poor archos, they didnt build into the studio/recorder all the crap that ipod did |
16:53:25 | nevs | and the stuido is bigger enough |
16:53:40 | blufrog | recorder is same size as studio |
16:53:45 | nevs | no its not |
16:53:49 | nevs | its bigger |
16:53:54 | dwihno | nevs: erhm. no? |
16:54:05 | * | dwihno has seen the units side by side. the size is the same |
16:54:13 | blufrog | i dont mean to sound like a faggot, but does anyone here have pete yorn mp3s |
16:54:24 | nevs | well, from what i have read and seen with other ppl recorders they are bigger |
16:54:37 | blufrog | ive taken them both apart to upgrade the HD. exactly same except for the mic and the screen size |
16:54:45 | dwihno | yep |
16:55:02 | dwihno | well |
16:55:06 | dwihno | there is some hardware differences |
16:55:18 | dwihno | but not anything a regular joe will notice |
16:55:25 | nevs | i think the ipod does have a good organising system and it sounds better i think |
16:55:28 | blufrog | naturally, but nothing visible except the screen and the mic/jacks |
16:55:40 | nevs | does the ipod make mp3s sound better? |
16:55:53 | blufrog | if i had $400 .. i dont think id get ipod. id getta AV340 |
16:56:06 | nevs | i like the way how u can browse by artist,albumn and song |
16:56:07 | dwihno | imho, the rec20 has the best sound I've ever heard on a portable mp3 player |
16:56:20 | nevs | but i hate the touch senstive wheel and the whiteness of it |
16:56:22 | dwihno | nevs: you decide how to organize your music... not the software. |
16:56:32 | nevs | no |
16:56:34 | nevs | the software |
16:56:43 | nevs | the ipod is soooo much easier to browse msuic |
16:56:54 | nevs | have u used one? |
16:56:55 | blufrog | dwinho ... do yo know anything about the av340 ? |
16:56:57 | * | dwihno has only touched an ipod briefly |
16:57:03 | nevs | that would be why |
16:57:08 | dwihno | blufrog: not really... I'm a 100% recorder guy |
16:57:30 | dwihno | nevs: What I'm trying to say, is, that with the rockbox software, you can store the music any way you want to... |
16:57:32 | nevs | how big is av340? |
16:57:43 | nevs | oh yeah i know that |
16:57:57 | nevs | but what i am saying is the ipod does have a better browsing gui system |
16:58:01 | dwihno | well |
16:58:14 | dwihno | Can't say I've tested it that much |
16:58:19 | nevs | try one |
16:58:20 | blufrog | dwinho, was thinking thata 340 would be good, to rip video into. my friends got COMCAST ON DEMAND and i would like to get some Ali G |
16:58:39 | nevs | how much bigger is the av340 comapred to recorder 20? |
16:58:50 | dwihno | not that much... |
16:58:56 | dwihno | It uses a different breed of battery |
16:59:02 | nevs | liom |
16:59:06 | nevs | lion* |
16:59:20 | dwihno | custom made li-ion, I think |
16:59:23 | blufrog | teh 340 is about the same size, i imagine. archos.com has them there. the lcd is huge |
16:59:26 | nevs | no look at the av 400 |
16:59:31 | dwihno | damn it's hot |
16:59:35 | nevs | u want the av 400 |
16:59:39 | * | dwihno went home - it's too damn hot to work |
16:59:41 | nevs | that looks nice |
16:59:55 | nevs | u seen the av 400? |
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17:00:05 | blufrog | yes |
17:00:15 | nevs | surely thats better than av340? |
17:00:18 | blufrog | i just wonder how good the encoding is. i wish i could see the files it produces |
17:00:34 | blufrog | better, maybe more expensive though. they both encode well i think |
17:01:16 | nevs | on the recorder |
17:01:25 | nevs | how good is the recording from a mic? |
17:01:50 | blufrog | its good. they used to say VBR up to 160 |
17:02:00 | blufrog | but now i think that rockbox can make it VBR up to 192 |
17:02:18 | nevs | but it needs a mic pre amp? |
17:02:35 | blufrog | you dont have to have a mic. it has one on it, mono |
17:02:45 | nevs | ono |
17:02:46 | nevs | mono |
17:02:51 | nevs | i would need stereo |
17:03:05 | nevs | mono is crap |
17:03:12 | blufrog | theres an input jack in the bottom, stereo in |
17:03:32 | blufrog | but if you're just carrying it around and need to record a speech or something, its got the built in mono |
17:03:48 | nevs | yeah |
17:04:04 | blufrog | if the speech turns into a month long debate, you can record it all at low VBR |
17:04:22 | nevs | btw can u buy new batterie covers |
17:04:32 | nevs | coz mine have all the paint weared away |
17:04:34 | blufrog | not that i know of |
17:04:38 | blufrog | yeah me too |
17:04:46 | nevs | would look nice with new covers |
17:04:50 | nevs | or diffrent colours |
17:05:06 | nevs | diffrent bumper coulours would be cool |
17:05:37 | blufrog | i dont use the batt. covers |
17:06:12 | nevs | what? |
17:06:19 | nevs | why not |
17:06:22 | blufrog | i carry mine around au natural |
17:06:23 | nevs | they fall out |
17:07:03 | blufrog | now they wont. the rubber edges keep them in tightly |
17:07:07 | nevs | what i really want that they should of made is a backlight lcd remote |
17:07:22 | nevs | so u dont need to take it out ur pocket |
17:07:47 | blufrog | why would you want to take it out of yourpocket |
17:07:51 | nevs | what is the best hd mp3 player on the market |
17:08:05 | nevs | to change the onsg |
17:08:08 | nevs | song* |
17:08:47 | blufrog | just enque the songs, its easy to do,. espcially with the recorder |
17:08:58 | blufrog | the recorder also has the F1, F2, F3 buttons |
17:09:28 | nevs | ok, last question whats the best hd mp3 player ? |
17:09:51 | blufrog | i think that the recorder Version 1 is |
17:10:10 | nevs | what about the gemni |
17:10:19 | nevs | or phillips mp3 player |
17:10:21 | blufrog | buy a recorder version 1 from archos, and get the HD upgraded to 80 gigs |
17:10:32 | nevs | thats too much |
17:10:34 | blufrog | gmini is ok. but its an ion battery |
17:10:38 | nevs | 80gigs |
17:10:46 | nevs | i dont need 80 gigs |
17:10:56 | blufrog | nah. you can encode at 224 and then put everything on there |
17:11:05 | nevs | i encode at 320 |
17:11:11 | nevs | the songs that i lsiten to alot |
17:11:29 | nevs | i have songs encoded at 540 |
17:11:33 | blufrog | cool |
17:11:48 | nevs | i got 18gb of pure music |
17:11:54 | nevs | thats alot for me |
17:12:02 | blufrog | on a 20 gig machine though, u prolly got just 140 albums or so |
17:12:18 | nevs | thats alot though |
17:12:33 | nevs | i got 4312 songs i think |
17:12:35 | blufrog | do you ever play internet poker? |
17:12:39 | nevs | no |
17:12:48 | blufrog | i got 3900 on my 20 gig |
17:13:03 | blufrog | internet poker is addictive and time consuming, and financial draining |
17:13:08 | nevs | but i got like eg vice city radio files 60 mins each ! |
17:13:37 | nevs | so thats like 6 radio stations |
17:13:51 | blufrog | i encode stuff like that at about 32 VBR |
17:13:58 | nevs | 32! |
17:14:06 | blufrog | i have david cross's album at about 32 mono vbr |
17:14:13 | nevs | oh btw , i cant find the update vbr header on my studio |
17:14:18 | blufrog | lots of audiobooks at about 26 VBR |
17:14:30 | nevs | i used to have it |
17:14:39 | blufrog | im not sure. didnt know studio even had that |
17:14:43 | nevs | yeah it did |
17:14:54 | nevs | used to be on the on+play menu |
17:15:18 | nevs | oh a cool function i want is how long you have listen to music for |
17:15:22 | nevs | so it records |
17:15:36 | nevs | so u can see how much music u listen to in days, or hourse |
17:16:33 | blufrog | oh this is a tragedy.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=48682&item=5713654057&rd=1 |
17:16:54 | nevs | im looking at it |
17:17:11 | blufrog | you mean a log of data, for the times youve listened to music for the whole month? thats a pretty cool idea. |
17:17:17 | nevs | LOL |
17:17:33 | nevs | not just each month |
17:17:36 | nevs | for ever |
17:17:48 | blufrog | some kind of internal log would be good, to show you what the systems done. when you've charged the batteries, when youve powered on;off, etc.. |
17:17:52 | nevs | so u can see how many mins of ur life u have listen to music |
17:18:11 | blufrog | yeeah but i guess it would be easiest if it made a file for each month and updated it or something? i dunno |
17:19:05 | nevs | that recorder is in mint condtition |
17:21:26 | nevs | omg |
17:21:38 | nevs | a gemni 120 for 115 pounds |
17:22:29 | blufrog | that busted recorder? |
17:22:42 | nevs | i was joking |
17:22:59 | nevs | woah i found a new recorder 20 for 87 pounds |
17:23:07 | nevs | 160 dollars |
17:23:08 | blufrog | thats like 140 bucks? |
17:23:13 | nevs | thats cheap |
17:23:13 | blufrog | get this... seriously |
17:23:22 | nevs | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=48682&item=5713658969&rd=1 |
17:23:29 | nevs | buy it now |
17:23:54 | blufrog | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=73839&item=5712906863&rd=1 |
17:24:18 | nevs | looks ok |
17:24:37 | blufrog | yeah i'd buy it. might buy it myself |
17:25:11 | blufrog | prolly buy a 60 gig HD for $100, and some new batteries... |
17:25:11 | nevs | why do u want another one |
17:25:14 | blufrog | it would run like a charm |
17:25:24 | nevs | how many archos's have u got |
17:25:32 | blufrog | 2 |
17:25:49 | blufrog | i need to format the HD in my recorder, its a 40 gig |
17:25:55 | blufrog | i took teh HD out and put it in my studio |
17:26:27 | nevs | i found anoter one |
17:26:32 | nevs | 169 dollars |
17:26:37 | nevs | brand new in box |
17:26:46 | blufrog | too much. dont pay more than $125 |
17:27:05 | nevs | $125! |
17:27:28 | nevs | thats 70 pounds for a 20gb mp3 player |
17:27:31 | blufrog | yeah. these things never break YOU know that, I know that... |
17:27:53 | blufrog | ive had my studio for ... three or four years |
17:28:00 | nevs | me too |
17:28:03 | blufrog | every time i thought it had broken, i just replaced the batteries |
17:28:04 | nevs | 4 years my stuido 20 |
17:28:13 | nevs | mine has got broken once, touch wood |
17:28:21 | nevs | oh but one problem i noticed reencetly |
17:28:50 | nevs | some songs , it plays 30 secs, then stops , and crashes or continues playing but u hear nothing |
17:28:56 | blufrog | i remember i paid about 200 for the studio. that was a long time ago. worth it though |
17:29:04 | nevs | 200 dollars |
17:29:12 | blufrog | maybe 250 |
17:29:18 | nevs | i paid 220 pounds |
17:29:24 | blufrog | holy crap |
17:29:41 | blufrog | my advice... |
17:29:57 | blufrog | buy a recorder 20 off ebay, get a broken one. try to pay fifty bucks for it |
17:29:58 | nevs | in dixons, if u know what shop they are, they weere selling a archos 6 for 299 pounds |
17:30:20 | blufrog | nevs where are you in uk |
17:30:27 | nevs | south east |
17:30:40 | blufrog | ever hear of a band called Boxer Rebellion |
17:30:47 | nevs | no |
17:30:51 | blufrog | oh ok. |
17:30:52 | nevs | what kind of music do u like |
17:30:59 | nevs | not metal |
17:31:00 | nevs | plz |
17:31:06 | blufrog | they are alright, |
17:31:11 | nevs | i hate metal |
17:31:19 | blufrog | they are influenced a lot by Oasis and that mid90s stuff |
17:31:25 | nevs | ok i like oasis |
17:31:31 | nevs | try supersonic |
17:31:33 | blufrog | they sound more like coldplay though |
17:31:36 | nevs | damm thats a fine song |
17:31:40 | blufrog | supersonics nice. |
17:31:44 | nevs | yep |
17:31:54 | nevs | no but i hate metal and slipnot shite |
17:32:00 | nevs | and stuff like that |
17:32:06 | nevs | its pure crap |
17:32:20 | nevs | i like rock, jazz, some pop, indie rock |
17:32:34 | nevs | some hip hop and rnb but not much |
17:32:58 | nevs | u? |
17:33:30 | blufrog | i hate creed, slipknot, nickelback, etc |
17:33:39 | blufrog | stuff blows ass, royally |
17:33:59 | nevs | hey look at this a New ARCHOS AV380 80GB VIDEO PLAYER RECORDER |
17:34:08 | blufrog | pop is good, rock, rockabilly, alternative, alt-country |
17:34:35 | nevs | for 656.165 USD |
17:34:43 | nevs | is that good? |
17:36:30 | nevs | ? |
17:37:47 | nevs | what about this a Archos Ultra Small Gmini 220 20GB MP3 Player Recorder for 282.511 USD |
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17:39:56 | nevs | hello |
17:40:01 | nevs | who is blue frog 7 |
17:40:16 | BlueFrog7 | hey buddy |
17:40:22 | BlueFrog7 | sorry about that its me. i got disconnected |
17:40:24 | nevs | u bluefog? |
17:40:26 | nevs | oh ok |
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17:40:28 | nevs | 282.511 USD |
17:40:39 | nevs | what about this a Archos Ultra Small Gmini 220 20GB MP3 Player Recorder for 282.511 USD? |
17:40:49 | nevs | good? |
17:40:53 | blufrog-here | here i am. ive been gone for abit |
17:41:06 | nevs | yeah |
17:41:16 | nevs | 285 for gemni 220 is that good |
17:41:26 | blufrog-here | let me check |
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17:41:45 | nevs | or i found a hey look at this a New ARCHOS AV380 80GB VIDEO PLAYER RECORDER for 656 dollars |
17:42:29 | blufrog-here | holy poop thats a lot of money ! |
17:42:39 | nevs | so that is a bad deal |
17:42:58 | blufrog-here | i wonder what those are like though.. i wonder if you could just get a 420 and then manually install a 100 gb hrd |
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17:44:02 | nevs | Name: Team Lz0 |
17:44:02 | nevs | S/N: 4723-360111 |
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17:44:09 | nevs | sorry |
17:44:12 | nevs | wrong paste |
17:44:53 | blufrog-here | lol... ios that your social no. ? |
17:45:00 | nevs | no |
17:46:03 | nevs | ok i gtg |
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17:48:16 | blufrog-here | hi nib |
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17:48:50 | Nibbler | hi |
17:49:04 | blufrog | hi |
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20:01:39 | | Nick midk|sleep is now known as midk (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
20:02:55 | pvh | Urgh, my Rockbox is still playing at half speed. |
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20:32:55 | amiconn | And I still don't get why the %&$@ recording doesn't work most of the time if rockbox is running from ROM :( |
20:33:24 | amiconn | pvh: Did you try mp3s with other sampling frequencies than 44.1 kHz? |
20:34:00 | midk | hmm.. :\ |
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20:35:15 | midk | oh great |
20:35:18 | midk | ;] |
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20:37:41 | dstar5 | midk: i agrea |
20:37:47 | dstar5 | *agree |
20:38:23 | midk | with? |
20:38:57 | dstar5 | <midk> oh great |
20:38:57 | dstar5 | <midk> ;] |
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22:56:48 | dstar5 | amiconn: i think my work is done |
22:56:51 | dstar5 | testing it now |
22:58:03 | dstar5 | works good :) |
22:58:11 | boofaWork | heh |
22:58:14 | boofaWork | my 80gb drive died. |
22:58:19 | boofaWork | and i lost a bunch of code. |
22:58:23 | | Nick boofaWork is now known as kaboofa (~kaboofa@pcp03462569pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net) |
22:58:23 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK kaboofa |
22:58:26 | dstar5 | boo :( |
22:58:39 | kaboofa | now i need to wait about a week for my tapes to get here so i can at least get some of my code onto my 60GB |
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23:03:30 | dstar5 | tapes? |
23:03:45 | dstar5 | amiconn: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1002379&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
23:05:43 | midk | i don't believe this.. now you have seperate settings for each mode just like me... |
23:06:11 | amiconn | bbl |
23:06:14 | | Part amiconn |
23:06:27 | dstar5 | midk: ??? |
23:07:15 | dstar5 | humm i change one more thing |
23:07:21 | dstar5 | default settings |
23:08:45 | dstar5 | done |
23:10:37 | dstar5 | midk: why should i not have seperate settings for each mode? the chariristics are so diferne't that you should... |
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23:19:08 | dstar5 | bye |
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23:38:42 | Smooth | HI |
23:39:34 | Smooth | zeekoe |
23:40:48 | Smooth | anyone alive here? |
23:41:09 | midk | me. |
23:41:16 | Smooth | hi mi |
23:41:37 | midk | hi track |
23:41:50 | Smooth | hi mikeholden |
23:42:32 | midk | bbl |
23:42:47 | Smooth | ? |
23:43:17 | midk | back later. |
23:43:32 | Smooth | ok |
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23:44:23 | zeekoe | Smooth |
23:44:32 | zeekoe | me alive here |
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23:45:10 | Smooth | oh boy |
23:46:16 | dstar5 | ohh boy what!!!!! |
23:46:41 | zeekoe | which boy? |
23:47:53 | Smooth | something that one of the (mi)'s says |
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23:51:53 | zeekoe | Smooth: what did which mi say? |
23:52:12 | dstar5 | (oh boy) |
23:52:29 | Smooth | there are 2 (mi)S in the rockbox regime |
23:53:01 | zeekoe | :P |
23:54:16 | zeekoe | Smooth: you call midk 'regime'? |
23:54:17 | zeekoe | lol |
23:56:17 | Smooth | well there is (mi)dknight and (mi)keholden |
23:56:33 | Smooth | both equally ______________________ (I'll leave you to fill in the blank) :-) |
23:56:59 | zeekoe | :P |
23:58:31 | kaboofa | nice? |
23:58:51 | zeekoe | track? |
23:58:52 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
23:58:52 | * | kaboofa starts chanting with Funker Vogt |
23:59:00 | kaboofa | shiney? |