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| 00:20:32 | ze | why do they sell computers without the motherboard's manual? |
| 00:20:57 | midk | why not? |
| 00:21:22 | ze | because they have necessary information on stuff like ram |
| 00:21:23 | ze | and whatnot |
| 00:21:42 | midk | the computer manual tells you what you need to know.. |
| 00:21:46 | ze | i had to go looking all over the place and never found an exactly definitive answer on whether or not her motherboard supported/required the dual-channel ram she got |
| 00:21:50 | midk | be smart ze. youse your head. |
| 00:21:52 | ze | no, it doesn't, it's just a quickstart guide |
| 00:21:56 | ze | there's no useful info in there |
| 00:22:09 | midk | ram isn't dual channel... the motherboard either supports dual channel or not. |
| 00:22:17 | ze | it even says for maintaince and upgrade information see the online user guide in the help and support channel |
| 00:22:20 | ze | err |
| 00:22:23 | ze | help and support whatever |
| 00:22:23 | ze | heh |
| 00:22:38 | ze | but then that's all just generic and gives nothing specific to any particular system |
| 00:22:52 | midk | get the motherboard model. look it up. DUUYYYY |
| 00:22:56 | ze | i did |
| 00:23:08 | ze | try it, p4sd-vl |
| 00:23:29 | midk | http://boat.zero.ad.jp/~zbc18577/vaio/power_up.htm |
| 00:24:14 | midk | here you go.. this is the real model, may assist you. |
| 00:24:14 | midk | SD7533 |
| 00:24:41 | ze | what makes you think thats the real model |
| 00:24:52 | ze | thats abit and this is asus isn't it? |
| 00:24:58 | midk | Abit SD7533 Motherboard - Review Prices & Stores Before Shopping ... |
| 00:24:58 | midk | ... Calculate Taxes & Shipping costs for your area ? Enter your ZIP code: |
| 00:24:58 | midk | Also Known As. P4sd, P4sd-La, P4sd-Vx, P4sd-Vl, Asus P4sd. |
| 00:25:15 | midk | looks like it's the SD7533 to me |
| 00:25:26 | ze | yeah how do you know that page isn't full of shit? |
| 00:25:48 | midk | how do you know your face isn't ugly? |
| 00:25:53 | midk | you just know. |
| 00:26:01 | ze | that's irrelevant |
| 00:26:11 | ze | see now i'm looking at a pic of the sd7533 |
| 00:26:12 | midk | right |
| 00:26:13 | ze | and it's notn it |
| 00:26:15 | midk | but the point is.. |
| 00:26:20 | midk | hmm... well... good luck. |
| 00:26:22 | ze | that board has 3 ram slots all bunched together |
| 00:26:30 | ze | this one has 4 slots in pairs |
| 00:26:30 | ze | heh |
| 00:26:45 | midk | that's dual channel. |
| 00:27:00 | ze | so whats dual channel all about |
| 00:27:14 | ze | my mom wanted add another 512mb but not fill up all her slots so she could add more later |
| 00:27:25 | midk | if you put one stick in one of the groups and the other stick in another group... then they are faster |
| 00:27:26 | ze | but they gave her a package of 2 256mb's |
| 00:27:52 | ze | so now it's 4 256mb's in there filling it up |
| 00:28:12 | midk | hmm. so you have 1gb.. that's not bad. |
| 00:28:19 | ze | yeah but it runs xp |
| 00:28:25 | midk | if you ever want to upgrade you could swap out two 256's for 2 512's.. sell the other stuff? |
| 00:28:31 | midk | ..so? |
| 00:28:33 | ze | yeah right |
| 00:28:38 | midk | haha.. xp doesn't take up 1gb/ |
| 00:28:49 | ze | sell old ram... heh |
| 00:29:01 | ze | no, it doesn't take it up |
| 00:29:10 | midk | so what's wrong? |
| 00:29:17 | ze | it just effectively reduces whats available as compared to pretty much any other system |
| 00:29:20 | ze | heh |
| 00:29:34 | midk | get 2k then..? |
| 00:29:42 | ze | heh |
| 00:30:05 | ze | but it's got all it's pre-loaded software :p |
| 00:30:10 | ze | that my mom likes |
| 00:30:17 | midk | hmm.. like solitaire? |
| 00:30:19 | midk | :] |
| 00:30:24 | ze | and it comes with no cd's or anything to install such software anywhere else |
| 00:30:29 | ze | like gigapocket PVR stuff |
| 00:30:40 | midk | hmm |
| 00:31:07 | midk | ok fine |
| 00:31:09 | midk | just put in the ram |
| 00:31:14 | midk | and let her have fun with gigashit |
| 00:31:22 | ze | heh |
| 00:31:32 | ze | yeah i dunno why she's so fixated on that |
| 00:31:33 | midk | what is it... |
| 00:31:44 | ze | when i'm setting up a dedicated PVR box that'll be hooked up to the 60" TV |
| 00:31:57 | midk | hey nice |
| 00:32:02 | midk | haha... |
| 00:32:41 | midk | bribe her |
| 00:32:55 | midk | tell her you'll put in the ram if you can waste time fragging with middy |
| 00:33:14 | ze | heh |
| 00:33:19 | ze | i can waste all the time i want |
| 00:33:22 | ze | and i already put her ram in |
| 00:33:39 | midk | you suck.. you could have bribed her, |
| 00:33:53 | ze | heh |
| 00:33:59 | ze | no, i couldn't have :p |
| 00:34:06 | ze | and i got nothing really to bribe her for anyway |
| 00:34:34 | midk | hmm.. ten bucks? |
| 00:35:16 | ze | now i gotta make sure that this linksys wifi card'll work in linux |
| 00:35:34 | midk | hmm.. good idea.. swap her over to slackware |
| 00:35:41 | ze | no, it's for the PVR |
| 00:35:57 | midk | yeah but.. haha... "here you go.. enjoy" |
| 00:35:59 | ze | and slackware? pff |
| 00:36:01 | midk | *mom stares at terminal* |
| 00:36:09 | ze | yeah i've done that before |
| 00:36:10 | ze | sorta |
| 00:36:11 | midk | fine whatever |
| 00:36:25 | midk | sorry i don't have your preferred distro memorized |
| 00:36:39 | ze | yeah |
| 00:36:41 | ze | i don't like distro's |
| 00:36:41 | ze | :p |
| 00:36:49 | midk | i sincerely apologize. |
| 00:37:48 | ze | hmm |
| 00:37:54 | ze | i hope there's linux support for this card though |
| 00:37:55 | ze | hehe |
| 00:38:44 | midk | AHAHA |
| 00:39:22 | ze | hmm it seems there's at least some way to make it work |
| 00:39:35 | ze | it might be some deal where it wraps some windows driver code somehow though |
| 00:39:43 | ze | which i don't see any problem with if it works i guess |
| 00:39:47 | ze | heh |
| 00:40:03 | ze | i think thats funny though |
| 00:40:06 | ze | whatever the deal is |
| 00:40:11 | ze | linux people'll figure out a way |
| 00:40:12 | midk | no, i guess if it works it works... you're a true visionary.. i never would have thought of that |
| 00:40:40 | ze | like the windows-only video codecs |
| 00:40:49 | ze | mplayer'll use the dll's and support them in linux anyway |
| 00:40:55 | midk | right |
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| 00:42:20 | ze | hmm |
| 00:42:30 | ze | the wireless HOWTO is 2 full years old |
| 00:42:34 | ze | since the last update |
| 00:42:49 | midk | HAHAHA |
| 00:43:14 | ze | oh the one at the HOWTO's own site |
| 00:43:21 | ze | is a full month newer than the one at tldp |
| 00:43:22 | ze | heh |
| 00:43:35 | midk | so.. 1 year,,, 11 months? |
| 00:43:44 | ze | well |
| 00:43:46 | ze | aug 23 2002 |
| 00:43:47 | ze | heh |
| 00:44:13 | midk | oh so... yeah... 1 year 11 months and 16 days? |
| 00:44:37 | ze | hmm |
| 00:44:42 | ze | there's a different howto |
| 00:44:51 | ze | there's the wireless-howto |
| 00:45:05 | ze | and it links to somebody elses wireless lan howto |
| 00:45:05 | ze | heh |
| 00:45:40 | midk | hnmm.. well good luck on that |
| 00:45:50 | midk | FAFAHAHA |
| 00:47:10 | ze | so it seems if it's not supported natively it's supported via the windows driver wrapper |
| 00:47:14 | ze | so i guess it's cool |
| 00:47:14 | ze | heh |
| 00:47:31 | ze | it's a linksys wmp54gs |
| 00:47:41 | ze | 802.11g + speedboster |
| 00:47:42 | ze | heh |
| 00:47:52 | midk | hmm... but why? |
| 00:48:00 | ze | why what? |
| 00:48:26 | midk | does the speedbooster work well? do you get fast transfers? |
| 00:48:34 | midk | how fast? |
| 00:48:38 | ze | i don't have anything to compare |
| 00:48:49 | ze | and have yet to give it a good testing actually, because we got a defective card for our laptop |
| 00:48:53 | ze | that we've yet to get replaced |
| 00:49:05 | ze | when i get this PVR system setup, it'll be the first to give it a good run |
| 00:49:16 | midk | neato.. |
| 00:49:18 | ze | but the reviews all say it is a noticable difference |
| 00:49:32 | midk | my wired network i get about 5,5mb/s transfers |
| 00:50:02 | ze | our wired network is switched 100Mb |
| 00:50:19 | midk | sounds tasteful |
| 00:50:27 | ze | it only took a few minutes the other day |
| 00:50:32 | ze | to copy 4GB accross the network |
| 00:51:03 | midk | i copied about 1.4gb just today.. took about a minute iirc. |
| 00:51:56 | ze | lets see i guess i gotta find what chipset this card is |
| 00:52:08 | midk | hmm... having trouble |
| 00:52:11 | midk | (you are) |
| 00:52:13 | midk | FAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 00:52:15 | * | midk laughs at ze |
| 00:52:22 | ze | hmm broadcomm?! i don't think so, i swear i saw it being something else somewhere heh |
| 00:52:33 | ze | trouble? what trouble? |
| 00:52:39 | ze | i've got a cat named trouble |
| 00:52:49 | midk | he sounds stupid |
| 00:52:55 | ze | he's a sweetheart |
| 00:53:04 | ze | all he wants to do is sleep on my bed and get loved |
| 00:53:16 | ze | and sometimes do acrobatic tricks |
| 00:53:21 | ze | doing backflips leaping for a toy |
| 00:53:36 | ze | or walking accross the track of the blinds on the sliding glass door |
| 00:53:42 | ze | and whatnot |
| 00:53:42 | ze | heh |
| 00:53:50 | midk | HAHA |
| 00:54:49 | ze | hmm i should take a look at knoppmyth |
| 00:56:24 | ze | http://www.raybenjamin.com/public_html/article.php?story=20040606230443593 |
| 00:56:34 | ze | gotta poo |
| 00:57:15 | midk | uh |
| 00:57:18 | midk | don't take any pics.. |
| 00:57:19 | midk | :] |
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| 01:12:23 | ze | i'm eating fresh whole wheat toast with strawberry preserves |
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| 01:13:45 | midk | MMMM |
| 01:14:24 | ze | this bread only finished baking a mere 12 hours ago |
| 01:14:42 | ze | and it's flour was ground from whole wheat berries only a few hours before that |
| 01:15:36 | midk | hm. how long did it take to bake? |
| 01:16:05 | ze | the whole mixing/kneading/rising/baking process took 3 hours and 40 minutes |
| 01:20:45 | midk | uh |
| 01:21:02 | midk | so um... you spent 3h 40m of your life making a loaf of bread? |
| 01:21:07 | ze | no |
| 01:21:10 | ze | the bread machine did it |
| 01:21:12 | ze | heh |
| 01:21:12 | midk | hrm.. i mean |
| 01:21:20 | midk | how much time did _you_ spend? |
| 01:21:30 | ze | i dunno |
| 01:21:54 | ze | grinding the flour, getting it all going, and then slicing the bread after it was done |
| 01:21:59 | ze | probably ~1 hour or less |
| 01:22:51 | midk | hmm |
| 01:22:53 | midk | not too bad... |
| 01:23:04 | midk | but you can still go to the store and get a loaf easily. |
| 01:24:22 | ze | pff |
| 01:24:32 | ze | yeah full of preservatives and baked like days or weeks ago and crap |
| 01:26:07 | midk | HAHAHA |
| 01:26:39 | midk | http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/breadtag.htm |
| 01:30:13 | ze | heh |
| 01:30:24 | ze | well thats all well and good |
| 01:30:32 | ze | but mine's still better :p |
| 01:30:36 | ze | and i like making stuff for myself |
| 01:30:51 | midk | true. |
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| 02:34:02 | ze | so my parents are at a party at the neighbor's |
| 02:34:09 | ze | so i'm thinking i'll have a little party here my self |
| 02:35:09 | ze | you know, plug my karma-dock into the surround-sound system and get some mp3's going, invite over some linux wifi software and drivers, ... |
| 02:35:20 | ze | "Hey party people... are you ready for some HARDWARE CONFIGURATION?!" |
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| 02:49:04 | midk | HAHA |
| 02:49:37 | midk | yeah sounds fun... "Who can get the kernel reconfigured first?!" |
| 02:50:03 | midk | or party with middy at ctf and watch him whoop you. |
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| 03:34:11 | ze | heh |
| 03:34:22 | ze | there's a little linux distro for the wireless router we've got |
| 03:34:23 | ze | :p |
| 03:34:44 | midk | haha! yeah.. OH. |
| 03:34:51 | ze | and yet i'm gonna have to use a windows-driver wrapper to get the matching wireless card to work in the linux PVR box |
| 03:34:51 | midk | is it the.. |
| 03:34:53 | midk | wrt54g or so? |
| 03:34:55 | ze | yeah |
| 03:34:59 | ze | actually the wrt54gs |
| 03:35:03 | ze | but it says it works on that too |
| 03:35:03 | ze | heh |
| 03:36:09 | ze | hmm |
| 03:36:17 | ze | actually this page here |
| 03:36:22 | ze | says it already runs linux |
| 03:36:23 | ze | heh |
| 03:36:30 | webmind | offtopic ? |
| 03:36:36 | ze | what topic? |
| 03:36:46 | * | webmind points at #wireless |
| 03:36:47 | webmind | :) |
| 03:36:56 | ze | heh |
| 03:37:04 | ze | why? |
| 03:37:23 | ze | there's only a topic when there's discussion |
| 03:37:24 | ze | :p |
| 03:37:35 | midk | :] |
| 03:40:02 | ze | heh |
| 03:40:03 | ze | Port State Service |
| 03:40:03 | ze | 80/tcp open http |
| 03:40:03 | ze | 443/tcp open https |
| 03:40:03 | ze | Remote operating system guess: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20 |
| 03:40:05 | ze | Uptime 22.006 days (since Fri Jul 16 18:30:26 2004) |
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| 04:00:21 | ze | midk: so what would you say if i said sbuf is a buffer for the current sample in a loop for every sample in an audio file, and afac is a float with a value of 0.00007 and showed you this: |
| 04:00:26 | ze | if (sbuf!=0) smixval = (short)((random()+sbuf)*afac); |
| 04:00:27 | ze | if (smixval!=0) smixval = (short)(smixval/afac); |
| 04:00:29 | ze | fwrite(&smixval,2,1,stdout); |
| 04:00:42 | ze | oh |
| 04:00:49 | ze | i'm in the middle of adding the random() deal to it |
| 04:01:17 | midk | hmm.. |
| 04:01:28 | midk | wtf.... |
| 04:01:45 | ze | you know what that does? |
| 04:01:46 | ze | heh |
| 04:01:51 | ze | ignore the random() bit |
| 04:01:51 | ze | heh |
| 04:01:55 | midk | not at all... wtf are you talking about. |
| 04:02:03 | midk | i have an idea. ctf. |
| 04:02:09 | ze | i'm busy |
| 04:02:21 | ze | i'm setting up a pvr system, configuring it's wireless, and writing this audio-manipulation software |
| 04:02:25 | ze | all at the same time |
| 04:02:25 | midk | "sample"ing? |
| 04:02:31 | midk | well get to work.. |
| 04:02:38 | ze | while dancing around like a fool with some music going |
| 04:02:41 | ze | and chatting at you |
| 04:02:44 | midk | haha.. let's see that. |
| 04:02:51 | midk | AT me/ |
| 04:02:53 | midk | hmm.. yeah. |
| 04:02:55 | midk | get back to work |
| 04:02:57 | ze | heh |
| 04:03:00 | ze | ok fine |
| 04:03:01 | * | midk spies on ze |
| 04:03:01 | ze | chatting with you |
| 04:03:04 | midk | NO. don't go. |
| 04:03:05 | ze | so like |
| 04:03:08 | ze | you see first thing |
| 04:03:19 | ze | is, lets see |
| 04:03:37 | ze | ok |
| 04:03:54 | ze | a signed short (16bit) has values of -32767 to +32767 right? |
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| 04:04:22 | midk | +32768 iirc? |
| 04:04:31 | ze | oh probably |
| 04:04:34 | ze | *shrug* |
| 04:04:45 | midk | yes. so go on. |
| 04:05:25 | ze | so you times those values by 0.00007 |
| 04:05:41 | ze | and you end up squishing those values down to like |
| 04:05:44 | ze | +/- 2 |
| 04:05:45 | ze | or such? |
| 04:05:46 | ze | heh |
| 04:05:55 | ze | and being a short integer |
| 04:05:58 | ze | not handling floats |
| 04:06:18 | ze | that gives a total of like 5 amplitude levels for the waveform to occupy basically |
| 04:06:30 | midk | -2 -1 0 1 2 |
| 04:06:32 | midk | wow i am good. |
| 04:06:37 | DrParadox | anyone know if there's a version of rockboxx for Archos Multimedia 20? |
| 04:06:39 | midk | so... why were you teaching me this again? |
| 04:06:46 | ze | so what this basically accomplishes |
| 04:06:54 | midk | DrParadox, please read the faq.. or the NODO |
| 04:06:56 | ze | is totally over-quantizing the audio |
| 04:07:02 | ze | or whatever |
| 04:07:13 | ze | so it like loses tons of information about the original waveform |
| 04:07:27 | ze | and totally roughs it up into digital extreme low-fi |
| 04:07:36 | ze | so it sounds all fucked up and clicky and stuff |
| 04:07:40 | ze | but |
| 04:07:44 | ze | the theory is |
| 04:07:50 | midk | haha |
| 04:07:55 | ze | that any subtle elements of the signal |
| 04:07:59 | ze | will more or less be lost |
| 04:08:19 | ze | and when you do home recording on crappy mainstream PC audio hardware and whatnot |
| 04:08:26 | ze | there's plenty of subtle signal that you'd like to get rid of |
| 04:08:37 | ze | now of course you're losing regular signal quality also in the process |
| 04:08:45 | ze | but if you care more about something that sounds good and clean |
| 04:08:51 | ze | than something that's accurate to what was recorded |
| 04:08:53 | ze | that doesn't really matter |
| 04:09:02 | ze | assuming |
| 04:09:07 | ze | that you can take the results of this process |
| 04:09:20 | ze | and smooth it out somehow to make it sound better than the clicky fucked up version |
| 04:09:24 | ze | heh |
| 04:09:44 | midk | i get what you |
| 04:09:51 | midk | you're saying, but.. |
| 04:09:52 | ze | basically resynthesizing elements that you threw away |
| 04:10:12 | ze | so hopefully you'd end up with something that doesn't sound either really recorded nor synthesized but somewhere inbetween |
| 04:10:16 | ze | and clean-sounding |
| 04:10:17 | ze | heh |
| 04:10:41 | ze | now this over-quantizing deal might not be the best way to go |
| 04:11:01 | ze | it's just the easiest way i thought of as a step to accomplish this basic end |
| 04:11:21 | midk | i still don't see where yoi' |
| 04:11:25 | midk | you're going with this |
| 04:11:31 | ze | er? |
| 04:11:45 | ze | i thought i went there already |
| 04:11:45 | ze | heh |
| 04:11:52 | ze | oh you mean in like |
| 04:11:57 | ze | explaining all this to you? |
| 04:11:59 | midk | why are you telling me this? is it your new theory on over-compromising or whatever |
| 04:12:01 | ze | brb |
| 04:12:09 | midk | sure, |
| 04:12:43 | ze | ok |
| 04:12:49 | ze | so |
| 04:12:52 | ze | like i dunno |
| 04:13:01 | ze | you code stuff don't you? any audio-related stuff? |
| 04:13:06 | ze | btw the basis for this code |
| 04:13:10 | ze | is that wavmix i wrote |
| 04:13:14 | midk | not anything audio-related really |
| 04:13:16 | ze | you know, the one with the, uh, functions :p |
| 04:13:23 | midk | the buttfuck(shit assface); thing? |
| 04:13:26 | ze | yeah |
| 04:13:28 | midk | yea. |
| 04:13:30 | midk | let' |
| 04:13:33 | midk | let's see it. |
| 04:13:34 | midk | :] |
| 04:13:36 | ze | i took a look |
| 04:13:58 | ze | and like almost all of the code is applicable to any kinda deal i wanna do to 8 or 16 bit mono pcm wav files |
| 04:14:01 | ze | heh |
| 04:14:22 | ze | and if i wanted to get all fancy i could probably make it work on stereo files too, but... heh |
| 04:14:29 | midk | i want to see it. |
| 04:14:43 | midk | then i can .. better understand your over-compromization technique |
| 04:14:54 | ze | basically the only line that was particularly specific to the mixing process is the |
| 04:14:57 | ze | for (i=0;i<count;i++) smixval += sbuf[i]/count; |
| 04:15:00 | ze | part |
| 04:15:02 | ze | heh |
| 04:15:12 | midk | you're so odd/. |
| 04:15:27 | ze | ok lemme rm this random() thing from it and tar it up |
| 04:15:49 | ze | er is tar ok, or you want zip? you in win or lin now? do i have to convert them to dos text format? |
| 04:15:52 | ze | heh |
| 04:15:56 | midk | lin |
| 04:16:01 | ze | ok good |
| 04:17:08 | ze | haha cool |
| 04:17:12 | ze | the tar.gz's 1909 bytes |
| 04:17:12 | ze | :p |
| 04:17:23 | midk | uh oh |
| 04:17:25 | ze | er yeah it's bloated too |
| 04:17:25 | midk | xchat may crash. |
| 04:17:29 | midk | in which case brb |
| 04:17:36 | ze | heh |
| 04:17:37 | midk | oh great |
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| 04:17:51 | ze | hmm |
| 04:17:53 | ze | heh |
| 04:18:03 | ze | xchat crashes? |
| 04:18:18 | midk | oh not great |
| 04:18:26 | midk | on dcc |
| 04:18:28 | midk | 75% of the time |
| 04:18:30 | ze | haha |
| 04:18:33 | ze | lame |
| 04:18:35 | midk | that time it made it before crashing |
| 04:18:37 | midk | luckily |
| 04:18:41 | ze | heh |
| 04:18:55 | midk | AHHA |
| 04:19:31 | ze | oh the RAND_MAX stuff's still in there too |
| 04:19:31 | ze | oh well |
| 04:19:35 | midk | i don't see how this can be coded. |
| 04:19:50 | ze | well it works... |
| 04:19:51 | ze | type make |
| 04:19:58 | midk | haha |
| 04:19:59 | midk | sizeof(shit) |
| 04:19:59 | ze | and then pick out a 16-bit mono wav file |
| 04:20:02 | ze | and do |
| 04:20:08 | ze | ./lowbit file.wav >newfile.wav |
| 04:20:18 | ze | and then play each file |
| 04:20:18 | ze | heh |
| 04:20:26 | ze | and you'll see what the fucked up sounding shit is |
| 04:20:26 | ze | hehe |
| 04:20:51 | midk | HAHAHA |
| 04:20:51 | midk | ass fuck[bitch]; |
| 04:20:56 | midk | you're good, ze. |
| 04:20:59 | ze | heh |
| 04:21:19 | ze | i made up for it with *putheader() |
| 04:21:26 | ze | man those functions are ugly as hell |
| 04:21:53 | ze | can't say exactly why, and i dunno any cleaner way to do it though i suspect there would be one |
| 04:21:57 | ze | but heh |
| 04:22:37 | midk | AHA |
| 04:22:38 | midk | shit rate |
| 04:22:42 | ze | heh |
| 04:23:13 | midk | hmm.. "penis ssize;" |
| 04:23:25 | midk | OH. i know what i need to do. |
| 04:23:27 | ze | heh |
| 04:23:44 | midk | go to #c, paste some and ask for help |
| 04:23:53 | midk | they'd be like.... "uh..." |
| 04:24:14 | midk | should i go there and ask? |
| 04:24:23 | ze | hmm |
| 04:24:28 | ze | yeah i think maybe you should |
| 04:24:29 | midk | i will log it for entertainment. |
| 04:24:34 | ze | brb gotta pee |
| 04:24:35 | midk | hmm sounds nifty |
| 04:24:36 | ze | hehe ok |
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| 04:26:51 | midk | hmm |
| 04:34:16 | ze | hmm |
| 04:34:53 | midk | i have no idea what to ask them, |
| 04:36:24 | ze | heh |
| 04:37:16 | midk | come up with something ze. |
| 04:37:26 | midk | it's got to be bogus, but convincing bogus. |
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| 04:39:51 | | Nick scott666_ is now known as scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) |
| 04:40:26 | ze | heh ok |
| 04:40:51 | midk | what must i ask the nerds of #c. |
| 04:41:18 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 04:41:27 | ze | er oh me come up with something? |
| 04:41:32 | ze | i dunno |
| 04:41:34 | ze | it was your idea |
| 04:41:39 | ze | i thought maybe you had something in mind :/ |
| 04:41:53 | midk | i want to paste bogus code but i also need some sort of a reason |
| 04:41:57 | midk | i don't like getting banned for no reason. |
| 04:42:06 | ze | heh |
| 04:42:07 | midk | hmm well actually it's sorta fun |
| 04:42:08 | ze | what bogus code? |
| 04:42:13 | midk | yours! |
| 04:42:17 | ze | it's not bogus |
| 04:42:18 | ze | heh |
| 04:42:32 | ze | it does work |
| 04:42:33 | ze | it's used |
| 04:42:33 | ze | heh |
| 04:42:41 | midk | well... to them it's bogus |
| 04:42:54 | ze | if (compare_ass(header->rid,"RIFF")<4) return 1; |
| 04:43:06 | midk | why am i pasting it? "i need help with this for loop" "this is erroring" etc. |
| 04:43:19 | midk | or i could just paste it and say "die nerds" |
| 04:43:23 | ze | heh |
| 04:43:25 | ze | nah |
| 04:44:00 | ze | well |
| 04:44:04 | ze | i'd say pick one of the 2 functions |
| 04:44:14 | ze | and then look at a place where that function's used |
| 04:44:21 | ze | and see if you can formulate a question about that spot |
| 04:44:36 | midk | huh?! |
| 04:44:38 | ze | and then they'll be all like "hmm whats this bitchfuck() function?" |
| 04:44:39 | ze | or whatever |
| 04:44:45 | ze | and then you paste it |
| 04:44:45 | ze | :p |
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| 04:44:57 | midk | no they'd probably say "language please" |
| 04:45:05 | midk | :] |
| 04:45:07 | ze | well i dunno |
| 04:45:15 | ze | if (compare_ass(header->rid,"RIFF")<4) return 1; |
| 04:45:18 | ze | looks like C to me |
| 04:45:22 | ze | so does |
| 04:45:27 | ze | if ((header->flen-16)>0) { |
| 04:45:31 | ze | if (shit_ass_fuck(header->flen-16,wfd)) return -99; |
| 04:45:35 | ze | fprintf(stderr,"flen is %i too big?\n",header->flen-16); |
| 04:45:38 | ze | } |
| 04:45:53 | midk | this isn't c? |
| 04:45:59 | ze | yes, it is c |
| 04:46:04 | ze | and it looks like it too |
| 04:46:04 | midk | "looks like c to me"... |
| 04:46:04 | ze | heh |
| 04:46:08 | midk | oh... haha |
| 04:46:28 | ze | i dunno |
| 04:46:31 | ze | maybe it's not a good idea |
| 04:46:38 | ze | they'll just be all like |
| 04:46:58 | ze | well if you really wanna debug it you won't be doing all this dumb typedef'ing |
| 04:47:00 | ze | :p |
| 04:47:01 | midk | i regularly get banned from there, just not too recently |
| 04:47:58 | ze | well the big problem is |
| 04:48:03 | ze | there's no problem with the code to ask about |
| 04:48:07 | ze | it works just fine :p |
| 04:48:24 | midk | right. but it'd be fun to see their responses. |
| 04:50:35 | scott666 | wait a minute...theres a bitchfuck() ready to be pasted? |
| 04:51:18 | midk | ze's code.. |
| 04:51:20 | midk | shit compare_ass(ass *bigass, ass *fatass) { |
| 04:51:20 | midk | shit poop; |
| 04:51:20 | midk | for (poop=0;(bigass[poop] == fatass[poop]);poop++); |
| 04:51:20 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midk |
| 04:51:20 | midk | return poop; |
| 04:51:21 | midk | } |
| 04:51:23 | midk | haha |
| 04:51:29 | scott666 | just lying around? |
| 04:51:30 | midk | should i just paste it? |
| 04:51:38 | midk | hm. not bitchfuck() per se |
| 04:51:53 | midk | shit_ass_fuck is available |
| 04:52:04 | scott666 | really |
| 04:52:21 | scott666 | does it have a legitimate purpose? |
| 04:52:28 | midk | yes, it compiles |
| 04:52:34 | midk | ze can send it to you |
| 04:52:45 | scott666 | compiles!=has a legitimate purpose |
| 04:52:49 | midk | er |
| 04:52:51 | midk | yes, it runs a program |
| 04:52:59 | midk | it's for wav .. something |
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| 04:56:11 | ze | in it's current state it only works for 16bit mono pcm wav files |
| 04:56:40 | ze | the 8bit could be fixed in like seconds |
| 04:56:41 | ze | bet |
| 04:56:42 | ze | but |
| 04:56:43 | ze | hehe |
| 04:56:49 | ze | i don't really care about it atm |
| 04:57:13 | ze | come to think of it |
| 04:57:16 | ze | it might take more than seconds |
| 04:57:17 | ze | heh |
| 04:59:01 | midk | haha |
| 04:59:15 | ze | :p\ |
| 05:00 |
| 05:02:33 | ze | heh |
| 05:02:34 | | Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 05:02:35 | ze | nothing |
| 05:02:36 | ze | :p |
| 05:05:57 | midk | ? |
| 05:06:00 | midk | haha... wtf.. go on. |
| 05:08:56 | ze | 20:05 < Pr0x> I suppose sarcasm doesn't go well over the internet |
| 05:09:00 | ze | 20:05 < ze> but i really did learn C by staring at my monitor |
| 05:10:06 | ze | heh |
| 05:10:13 | midk | i'm not sure it makes sense |
| 05:10:28 | ze | what? |
| 05:12:11 | midk | it doesn't make sense |
| 05:12:37 | ze | what? |
| 05:12:42 | midk | nm. |
| 05:13:40 | ze | fuck this pizza has a lot of toppings |
| 05:14:02 | midk | .. |
| 05:14:17 | ze | i'm not even done with my 3rd piece |
| 05:14:20 | midk | how many? |
| 05:14:21 | ze | and i'm like full |
| 05:14:31 | midk | topics don't really relate to pizza size |
| 05:14:38 | midk | slice size* |
| 05:14:46 | ze | and sausages and shit keep falling off |
| 05:14:54 | ze | topics? |
| 05:14:57 | ze | well see the thing is |
| 05:14:58 | midk | err |
| 05:15:00 | midk | toppings |
| 05:15:03 | ze | if it were just like |
| 05:15:05 | ze | normal pizza |
| 05:15:07 | ze | with normal toppics |
| 05:15:18 | midk | yeah i guess... but... hmmm... haha... never mind... |
| 05:15:19 | ze | i could potentially eat 4 and be satisfied but not full |
| 05:15:30 | ze | er with normal toppings |
| 05:15:31 | ze | :p |
| 05:15:34 | midk | HAHA |
| 05:15:38 | ze | of the same size slices |
| 05:15:53 | midk | and you were dogging ME about a typo. |
| 05:15:56 | ze | but this pizza's so damn loaded |
| 05:16:01 | midk | i take it you're not busy fucking with eth0 or pvr or whatever |
| 05:16:07 | ze | well yeah |
| 05:16:15 | ze | i'm gonna have to get knoppmyth i think |
| 05:16:21 | midk | well get to work |
| 05:16:39 | ze | and it installs to the HD |
| 05:16:41 | ze | which is fine with me |
| 05:16:42 | ze | but |
| 05:16:58 | ze | i gotta backup the old stuff first in case i need to reference any of it's setup |
| 05:17:13 | ze | and the other harddrive that i've got for it |
| 05:17:14 | midk | ok... |
| 05:17:18 | ze | i'm not ready to wipe out yet |
| 05:17:27 | midk | send me it |
| 05:17:30 | midk | i could use it more than you could |
| 05:17:35 | ze | what? |
| 05:17:42 | midk | the other harddrive |
| 05:17:49 | ze | well |
| 05:17:56 | ze | it's gonna be the PVR's main drive |
| 05:17:59 | ze | being 120GB and all |
| 05:18:05 | midk | i could use 120gb |
| 05:18:14 | ze | vs the old HD that it's booting off currently (that i need to back up) being i dunno 2G or somesuch |
| 05:18:17 | ze | heh |
| 05:18:20 | midk | my collection of.. erm..... hm... code.... is expanding rapidly. |
| 05:18:35 | ze | or maybe 6GB i guess cause there's like 2G used |
| 05:19:38 | midk | if 2g was used that would leave 4g |
| 05:19:44 | midk | so why would you guess it's 2g? |
| 05:21:41 | ze | cause i forget how big of a drive it is |
| 05:21:54 | ze | and the canidates are roughly 2GB 6GB and 8GB |
| 05:21:58 | ze | it might be the 8GB even |
| 05:21:58 | midk | so.. you were BLINDLY GUESSING the storage capacity |
| 05:22:13 | ze | no i'm guessing one out of 3 possible options |
| 05:22:14 | midk | you idiot... just get the properties of a file and look at "free disk space" |
| 05:22:21 | ze | um |
| 05:22:25 | ze | no the box runs linux |
| 05:22:27 | ze | i can tell by df -h |
| 05:22:28 | ze | but |
| 05:22:36 | ze | it's shut down and like unplugged and stuff |
| 05:23:44 | ze | lets see |
| 05:24:23 | ze | i guess i should get random numbers from 0 to 2^16 |
| 05:24:55 | midk | haha |
| 05:24:56 | ze | and then subtract (2^16/2)-1 from it |
| 05:24:57 | midk | yeah. |
| 05:25:08 | midk | .. |
| 05:25:22 | ze | and then add the results into the 2nd line |
| 05:25:24 | ze | like |
| 05:25:30 | midk | i'd say you make sense but i'd be lying |
| 05:25:41 | ze | if (smixval!=0) smixval = (short)(smixval/afac)+randomnumber; |
| 05:26:35 | ze | you think? |
| 05:26:36 | ze | heh |
| 05:26:39 | midk | uhh |
| 05:26:44 | midk | no i don't think |
| 05:26:51 | ze | lets see |
| 05:26:53 | midk | hmm. brb. |
| 05:27:08 | ze | you gotta reseed random() every time you call it to get a new random number? |
| 05:31:43 | midk | not necessarily |
| 05:32:24 | midk | hm, i think i will reboot to windows and i will frag some monsters, |
| 05:32:31 | ze | monsters? |
| 05:32:35 | ze | did you get doom3? |
| 05:32:40 | midk | yeppy |
| 05:32:43 | ze | cool |
| 05:32:44 | ze | send it to me |
| 05:32:48 | ze | :p |
| 05:32:58 | midk | hm... it's actually worth purchasing. i never purchase games, last time was like 5 years ago |
| 05:33:06 | ze | oh i'm sure it is |
| 05:33:08 | midk | but i got this one. |
| 05:33:09 | ze | but i don't have money |
| 05:33:12 | midk | it's terrifying |
| 05:33:14 | midk | yeah... |
| 05:33:20 | midk | hmm.... |
| 05:33:55 | midk | brb |
| 05:34:06 | midk | oh.. |
| 05:34:18 | midk | http://freewebs.com/midky/doom3pix.zip |
| 05:34:20 | midk | http://freewebs.com/midky/doom3pix2.zip |
| 05:34:24 | midk | and http://freewebs.com/midky/doom3pix3.zip |
| 05:34:26 | midk | enjoy, sir. |
| 05:34:27 | ze | i don't want screenshots of it |
| 05:34:33 | midk | well have a look |
| 05:34:34 | ze | screenshots suck |
| 05:34:36 | midk | there are flying skulls. |
| 05:34:36 | ze | of doom3 |
| 05:34:38 | ze | hehe |
| 05:34:49 | | Quit midk ("Leaving") |
| 05:36:03 | | Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 05:36:38 | midk | ok so it's really fucking scary... probably be back in about 5 minutes. |
| 05:36:42 | ze | heh |
| 05:36:53 | | Nick midk is now known as midk|doom3 (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 05:39:26 | ze | hmm ok |
| 05:39:41 | ze | i guess random()'ll give you a new number for each call |
| 05:39:47 | ze | after being seeded |
| 05:39:52 | ze | it'll just give the same sequence with the same seed |
| 05:39:57 | ze | ok thats fine |
| 05:43:41 | ze | hmm |
| 05:44:04 | ze | but it's giving numbers way past +/- (2^16/2)-1 |
| 05:44:39 | midk|doom3 | gmm |
| 05:44:41 | midk|doom3 | mhmm* |
| 05:44:50 | midk|doom3 | maybe tomorrow at noon i will play some more. |
| 05:44:53 | | Nick midk|doom3 is now known as midk (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 05:44:53 | ze | haha |
| 05:45:13 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 05:45:13 | * | midk hides under table |
| 05:45:14 | ze | games are scarier than movies can be |
| 05:45:19 | ze | but only somewhat |
| 05:45:22 | midk | oh, fuck yes.. doom3 proves that |
| 05:45:22 | ze | cause either way |
| 05:45:27 | ze | it's still just a game/movie |
| 05:45:31 | midk | well.... |
| 05:45:32 | ze | it's just some sound and flat images |
| 05:45:33 | ze | heh |
| 05:45:35 | ze | but |
| 05:45:36 | ze | with a game |
| 05:45:38 | ze | it's interactive |
| 05:45:45 | ze | it's actually you going into that dark corner |
| 05:45:46 | ze | in a sense |
| 05:45:57 | midk | tell that to me after some flying faces turn your friend into a zombie and this guy with 10 eyes jumps down from the ceiling throws fireballs at you |
| 05:45:59 | ze | and you've got something to lose if something pops out and rips you to shreads |
| 05:47:00 | ze | so uh |
| 05:47:07 | ze | why is random() giving me numbers >65536 |
| 05:47:14 | ze | when i've got RAND_MAX set to 65536 |
| 05:47:40 | midk | hang on, i'm still sort of jumpy since that zombie with a gun came around that dark corner |
| 05:47:47 | ze | hehe |
| 05:49:02 | midk | ok |
| 05:49:11 | midk | i think i'm calmed down |
| 05:49:19 | ze | s/set to/defined as/ |
| 05:50:12 | midk | shitty |
| 05:50:16 | midk | i dunno. |
| 05:50:35 | ze | see its like |
| 05:50:36 | ze | #undef RAND_MAX |
| 05:50:36 | ze | #define RAND_MAX 65535 |
| 05:50:36 | ze | int main(void) { |
| 05:50:36 | ze | int i; |
| 05:50:39 | ze | srandom(23); |
| 05:50:41 | ze | for (i=0;i<13;i++) printf("%i, ", random()); |
| 05:50:44 | ze | printf("\n"); |
| 05:50:46 | ze | exit(0); |
| 05:50:49 | ze | } |
| 05:51:03 | ze | hmm i guess i can get rid of the , |
| 05:51:06 | ze | but that still dosen't help anything |
| 05:51:07 | ze | heh |
| 05:51:16 | midk | HAHA |
| 05:51:29 | midk | wait um |
| 05:51:31 | ze | ? |
| 05:51:41 | midk | you're printing random 13 times then? |
| 05:51:57 | ze | yeah |
| 05:52:10 | midk | all in the same place.... |
| 05:52:12 | midk | ser, |
| 05:52:14 | midk | wait. |
| 05:52:18 | ze | 1562469902 1039845534 2025653534 739593874 994290584 1198075102 605335584 563009619 1076425455 1979353639 1481705266 416282717 1502074844 |
| 05:52:19 | midk | haha.. nm. |
| 05:52:45 | ze | see the smallest one of those is >65535 |
| 05:52:45 | ze | heh |
| 05:52:54 | midk | HAHAHA. |
| 05:52:57 | midk | they are all HUGE. |
| 05:53:47 | ze | The random() function uses a non-linear additive feedback |
| 05:53:48 | ze | random number generator employing a default table of size |
| 05:53:48 | ze | 31 long integers to return successive pseudo-random num- |
| 05:53:48 | ze | bers in the range from 0 to RAND_MAX. |
| 05:54:10 | midk | just use rand |
| 05:54:29 | ze | The versions of rand() and srand() in the Linux C Library |
| 05:54:29 | ze | use the same random number generator as random() and sran- |
| 05:54:30 | ze | dom() |
| 05:54:37 | midk | well just try it |
| 05:54:41 | midk | and be surprised |
| 05:54:42 | ze | The rand() function returns a pseudo-random integer |
| 05:54:42 | ze | between 0 and RAND_MAX. |
| 05:54:47 | midk | RIGHT |
| 05:54:49 | midk | and random() doesn't. |
| 05:54:55 | ze | yes it does |
| 05:54:57 | midk | just TRY IT you idiot |
| 05:54:59 | midk | TRY IT! |
| 05:55:10 | midk | don't ask for my advice and reject it |
| 05:55:21 | ze | 1562469902 1039845534 2025653534 739593874 994290584 1198075102 605335584 563009619 1076425455 1979353639 1481705266 416282717 1502074844 |
| 05:55:24 | ze | heh |
| 05:55:31 | ze | see exactly the same |
| 05:55:48 | midk | let's see your definition of RAND_MAX |
| 05:55:50 | midk | paste ALL the code. |
| 05:56:01 | ze | #include <stdio.h> |
| 05:56:01 | ze | #include <stdlib.h> |
| 05:56:01 | ze | #include <math.h> |
| 05:56:01 | ze | #undef RAND_MAX |
| 05:56:01 | ze | #define RAND_MAX 65535 |
| 05:56:03 | ze | int main(void) { |
| 05:56:06 | ze | int i; |
| 05:56:09 | ze | srand(23); |
| 05:56:11 | ze | for (i=0;i<13;i++) printf("%i ", rand()); //-((pow(2,16)/2)-1)); |
| 05:56:14 | ze | printf("\n"); |
| 05:56:16 | ze | exit(0); |
| 05:56:19 | ze | } |
| 05:56:40 | midk | why is "23' your seed? |
| 05:56:45 | ze | why not? |
| 05:56:50 | midk | a likely story... |
| 05:57:01 | midk | you haven't initialized int i. |
| 05:57:05 | ze | 23 just seems like a good random number |
| 05:57:10 | ze | sure i did |
| 05:57:13 | ze | i=0; |
| 05:57:14 | midk | that's what they all say |
| 05:57:15 | ze | in the for |
| 05:57:15 | ze | heh |
| 05:57:30 | midk | why are you passing 0 to "exit"? |
| 05:57:41 | ze | why not? |
| 05:57:51 | midk | why not "45296"? |
| 05:58:04 | ze | well because 45296 would be an error |
| 05:58:05 | ze | heh |
| 05:58:19 | ze | non-zero returns are regarded as errors, aren't they? |
| 05:58:20 | ze | lemme see |
| 05:58:27 | midk | it was an easy question, anyways |
| 05:58:28 | ze | > ./randomstuffs && echo blah |
| 05:58:28 | ze | 1562469902 1039845534 2025653534 739593874 994290584 1198075102 605335584 563009619 1076425455 1979353639 1481705266 416282717 1502074844 |
| 05:58:31 | ze | blah |
| 05:58:31 | ze | yeah there see |
| 05:58:45 | ze | since ./randomstuffs returned successful, echo blah ran |
| 05:58:45 | ze | heh |
| 05:58:55 | midk | to be serious now.. try %d instead of %i |
| 05:59:05 | ze | why |
| 05:59:10 | midk | STFU AND DO IT! |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:44 | ze | 1562469902 1039845534 2025653534 739593874 994290584 1198075102 605335584 563009619 1076425455 1979353639 1481705266 416282717 1502074844 |
| 06:00:50 | ze | hey! look at that! |
| 06:00:51 | ze | it's... |
| 06:00:54 | ze | the same! |
| 06:01:10 | midk | OF COURSE, here's the problem |
| 06:01:12 | midk | you DIPSHIT. |
| 06:01:18 | ze | heh |
| 06:01:22 | midk | #define RAND_MAX 65535 |
| 06:01:29 | midk | the max an int can hold is 32768 |
| 06:01:35 | midk | if you give it more than that it fucks u[/ |
| 06:01:36 | midk | up* |
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| 06:01:51 | ze | heh |
| 06:01:56 | ze | well um lets see |
| 06:01:59 | LinusN | why do you redefine RAND_MAX? |
| 06:02:03 | ze | an unsigned 32bit int... |
| 06:02:10 | midk | oh, linus has it. |
| 06:02:13 | ze | can hold up to 4294967295 |
| 06:02:19 | ze | yeah thats what i was just thinking |
| 06:02:30 | ze | i should multiply the result of rand by a factor to scale it or something right? |
| 06:03:14 | LinusN | something like that |
| 06:03:46 | LinusN | RAND_MAX is not something you control, it informs you about the range |
| 06:03:54 | ze | i guess if i devide it by 65537 |
| 06:05:40 | LinusN | yes, you divide it by (RAND_MAX/my_max) |
| 06:06:28 | ze | ah ok |
| 06:06:36 | LinusN | my_random_value = rand() / (RAND_MAX / my_max_value); |
| 06:06:54 | midk | i knew it! ;) |
| 06:07:01 | midk | just what i was telling ze before you popped in. |
| 06:07:07 | ze | :p |
| 06:07:12 | ze | LinusN: thanks |
| 06:07:32 | LinusN | you're welcome |
| 06:07:45 | ze | 14915 -1034 29051 -10197 -2424 3795 -14294 -15586 82 27638 12451 -20064 13072 |
| 06:07:49 | ze | yeah thats more like it |
| 06:08:16 | LinusN | negative numbers... |
| 06:08:54 | ze | so if RAND_MAX is defined as (2^sizeof(int)/2)-1 why does rand return 0 to RAND_MAX and not -RAND_MAX to RAND_MAX |
| 06:08:58 | ze | heh |
| 06:09:08 | ze | i guess that way it makes sure you don't get anything out of range either way |
| 06:09:37 | ze | but what if you want it to go the whole way for an unsigned int |
| 06:09:47 | ze | LinusN: yeah i engineered it that way |
| 06:09:57 | ze | (rand()/(RAND_MAX/65535))-32767 |
| 06:10:24 | ze | it's to be added into signed 16bit data |
| 06:11:45 | LinusN | i see |
| 06:13:05 | LinusN | gotta go |
| 06:13:10 | midk | seeya linus |
| 06:13:15 | ze | bye |
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| 06:13:20 | ze | so hmm now why am i getting a floating point exception |
| 06:13:21 | ze | heh :p |
| 06:13:36 | midk | should have listened to me in the first place |
| 06:13:51 | ze | :p |
| 06:14:52 | ze | oh gotta get rid of that old RAND_MAX stuff heh |
| 06:15:20 | ze | see if that helps |
| 06:15:24 | ze | ah yeah |
| 06:16:49 | ze | hmm |
| 06:16:57 | ze | maybe i shouldn't have so big of random values though :p |
| 06:17:20 | midk | what is this for? |
| 06:17:30 | ze | that lowbit |
| 06:17:46 | midk | wow.. whatever... :D |
| 06:17:52 | ze | ? |
| 06:17:56 | midk | nothing. |
| 06:21:19 | ze | guess what |
| 06:21:22 | ze | adding random noise to it |
| 06:21:26 | ze | doesn't really smooth it out any :p |
| 06:21:33 | midk | HAHA |
| 06:21:39 | midk | wow.. you're true genius |
| 06:23:29 | midk | -true+pure |
| 06:23:39 | ze | heh |
| 06:24:59 | ze | well the roughness is cause like |
| 06:25:08 | ze | there's only the 5 or 6 |
| 06:25:09 | ze | or whatever |
| 06:25:14 | ze | like steps |
| 06:25:16 | ze | for the amplitude |
| 06:25:25 | ze | so adding in random noise at the end |
| 06:25:34 | ze | adds more variance to the amplitudes |
| 06:25:46 | ze | but it's still random noise so it doesn't really help |
| 06:25:46 | ze | heh |
| 06:25:49 | midk | -2 -1 0 1 2 = 5. |
| 06:25:51 | midk | not 6. |
| 06:25:58 | ze | right well |
| 06:26:12 | * | midk hits ze on the head for being inadequate at math |
| 06:26:16 | ze | you sure it's not like -2 -1 0 1 2 3 |
| 06:26:16 | ze | ? |
| 06:26:16 | ze | heh |
| 06:26:30 | midk | i am sure. you said the range was 0 +- 2 |
| 06:26:40 | ze | no i said it's times 0.00007 |
| 06:26:41 | ze | heh |
| 06:27:23 | midk | and you also said it ends up at 0 +- 2 |
| 06:27:30 | ze | well |
| 06:27:34 | ze | >> 32768*0.00007 = 2.29376 |
| 06:27:39 | ze | so yeah i guess |
| 06:27:39 | ze | heh |
| 06:27:49 | midk | exactly. |
| 06:27:58 | midk | hmm. maybe i should doom some more. |
| 06:28:03 | elinenbe | ? |
| 06:28:33 | midk | hi there |
| 06:29:25 | ze | so |
| 06:29:29 | ze | how could i actually smooth it out |
| 06:29:46 | midk | don't bump the shitty factor up so much in the first place? |
| 06:29:52 | midk | make the range like 0 +- 5 |
| 06:29:58 | ze | heh |
| 06:30:26 | ze | well that'd be a factor of 0.00016 |
| 06:30:27 | ze | but |
| 06:30:30 | ze | it won't help |
| 06:30:51 | ze | cause it gets those artifacts even if it's got 256 steps |
| 06:30:54 | ze | (i.e. 8bit) |
| 06:30:56 | ze | heh |
| 06:31:00 | midk | egh. shhh. |
| 06:31:50 | ze | it's gotta be done with such a shit factor and then smoothed after |
| 06:31:51 | ze | heh |
| 06:32:19 | midk | smooth it over then! |
| 06:32:22 | ze | how though |
| 06:32:45 | midk | just do it. |
| 06:32:51 | ze | maybe if i add or multiply it against a sinus wave... heh but what frequency/amplitude? and would that even do any good |
| 06:32:55 | ze | heh |
| 06:32:55 | midk | smooth_it_out(please, true); |
| 06:32:58 | midk | just try it. |
| 06:33:00 | ze | heh :p |
| 06:33:03 | midk | TRY it. |
| 06:33:17 | ze | i gotta cut my nails |
| 06:33:24 | midk | ooh, how on-topic and interesting |
| 06:33:30 | midk | (toenails or fingernails?) |
| 06:33:33 | midk | *cough* |
| 06:38:39 | ze | fingernails |
| 06:38:50 | midk | hmm. i take it you're doing nothing? |
| 06:38:56 | * | midk rubs hands together |
| 06:40:44 | midk | oh crap.. i forgot to ask linus about his raw button reading.. : |
| 06:40:46 | midk | :\ |
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| 09:02:28 | Madman | i have a question for one of you guys |
| 09:03:18 | scott666_ | shoot |
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| 09:03:35 | Madman | what is recorder v2? |
| 09:03:50 | Madman | i have a recorder 20 and i dont see that on the site any more |
| 09:04:00 | Madman | at least on the daily builds |
| 09:04:57 | scott666 | its the second column on the daily builds page |
| 09:05:03 | midk | uy... read the faq please |
| 09:05:08 | scott666 | recorder |
| 09:05:11 | midk | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#74 |
| 09:06:50 | Madman | thanks midk |
| 09:07:12 | Madman | i read the faq, i just didnt read until 74 |
| 09:07:32 | midk | right.. there is also a search feature on the page if you need help |
| 09:07:39 | Madman | thanks |
| 09:07:41 | midk | an alternative is to use ctrl+f to find text on the page |
| 09:08:27 | Madman | by the way, i have used about 5 different daily builds since july 25th, and i have notice no bugs |
| 09:08:39 | Madman | i really like the new feature |
| 09:08:40 | Madman | s |
| 09:10:18 | midk | :) |
| 09:10:43 | Madman | the only problem i have had with it might be my error |
| 09:11:21 | Madman | im not sure though... Every time i plug it into my XP comp, it loads the usb fine... |
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| 09:11:55 | Madman | but i cant transfer any files without it saying, "cannot transfer: File path is too deep" |
| 09:12:12 | midk | hmm... |
| 09:12:17 | midk | never heard of any error like that |
| 09:12:27 | Madman | but it works perfect on my win 2000 comp |
| 09:12:32 | Madman | neither had i |
| 09:12:56 | Madman | i dont think it has anything to do with your builds though |
| 09:13:22 | Madman | cause if it did, it probably wouldnt work on my win 2000 comp either |
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| 09:15:43 | Madman | is there supposed to be a search feature in the recorder 20? |
| 09:16:26 | midk | ye |
| 09:16:36 | Madman | how do you use it? |
| 09:16:49 | midk | You are being CTCP flooded from Madman, ignoring *!*@69.111.79.28 |
| 09:16:52 | midk | ? |
| 09:17:34 | Madman | i think i clicked something too many times cause my comp froze |
| 09:17:45 | midk | haha |
| 09:18:06 | Madman | oops |
| 09:18:10 | midk | hmm anyways... just go to any file, hold on, hit play, choose open with, and choose "Search" |
| 09:18:24 | midk | put in your text and hit ok. it will dump the results to the current dir in a playlist file |
| 09:19:13 | * | Madman is testing |
| 09:20:27 | Madman | oh cool |
| 09:21:41 | Madman | do you know of a way to put spaces when using the keyboard? that would be helpful when naming folders |
| 09:22:09 | midk | yes.. choose a blank spot. |
| 09:22:57 | Madman | oh yeah, i knew that, its late... im making myself sound stupid |
| 09:23:16 | Madman | ok, here is a better question, a more educated one |
| 09:23:38 | Madman | say i named a folder |
| 09:23:49 | Madman | falder instead of folder |
| 09:23:59 | midk | yeah |
| 09:24:01 | midk | on_l/r |
| 09:24:05 | midk | on + left/right |
| 09:24:08 | midk | moves the cursor |
| 09:24:22 | Madman | is there a way to change the a without deleting the whole word? |
| 09:24:50 | Madman | change the letter |
| 09:24:54 | Madman | * |
| 09:25:40 | midk | yes. i just told you how. |
| 09:27:01 | Madman | cool, its 12:30 where i am |
| 09:27:17 | Madman | i cant think straight |
| 09:27:27 | Madman | but thanks for putting up with me |
| 09:28:26 | Madman | by the way, your firmware is 1000 times better than Archos' |
| 09:29:13 | Madman | ill leave you alone now... |
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| 09:30:05 | midk | oops |
| 09:30:06 | midk | ok bye |
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| 11:32:33 | midk | ze?! |
| 11:32:43 | ze | mid? |
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| 11:32:55 | midk | did you get your wiffy card set up? |
| 11:33:39 | ze | i haven't got the OS setup on there yet |
| 11:33:40 | ze | so no |
| 11:33:40 | ze | heh |
| 11:33:52 | midk | wtf is a wiffy card? |
| 11:33:52 | ze | i just got partition magic running on there |
| 11:34:02 | ze | so i juggle around the data thats on the drives |
| 11:34:03 | ze | i dunno |
| 11:34:06 | ze | it's a wifi card i got |
| 11:34:13 | midk | wiffy != wifi |
| 11:55:33 | ze | ok |
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| 11:55:37 | ze | so whats a wiffy card? |
| 11:55:55 | midk | dunno. are you busy? |
| 11:56:00 | ze | of course |
| 11:56:15 | midk | :\ |
| 11:56:18 | midk | doing what?> |
| 11:56:38 | ze | trying to copy these old partitions to a different drive |
| 11:56:57 | midk | wow, you sure sound busy/ |
| 11:57:03 | midk | gah. -/+. |
| 11:57:05 | ze | yeah |
| 11:57:24 | ze | partition magic is lame and won't give me the option of copying linux ext2 partitions |
| 11:57:45 | midk | LAHAHA |
| 11:58:01 | ze | although they did recognize the importance of being able to copy a linux swap partition, and does give the options for that |
| 11:58:06 | ze | :p |
| 11:58:40 | midk | HAHA |
| 11:58:40 | midk | WTF. |
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| 19:05:51 | dstar5 | anyone speak in german here? |
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| 20:05:57 | scott666 | zeekoe |
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| 20:08:24 | zeekoe | hi |
| 20:10:20 | zeekoe | waddayawant |
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| 20:23:38 | tpelliott | I have a stupid question: What does AW at the beginning of the subjuct line of a post mean? |
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| 21:48:12 | midk | jdeon, around? |
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| 22:27:34 | Heil_Eris | dstar5: ich spreche deutsch ;) |
| 22:28:50 | dstar5 | Heil_Eris, i wish i did! what does HAUt mean? small? |
| 22:29:57 | Heil_Eris | dstar5: Haut? |
| 22:30:04 | dstar5 | Heil_Eris, yes |
| 22:30:24 | Heil_Eris | dstar5: small - no Haut= means Skin |
| 22:31:07 | dstar5 | humm makes no sence to me i wish itai snakhead had write that where i understood it :) |
| 22:31:51 | dstar5 | Heil_Eris, are there any other meaning it could have? |
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| 22:33:34 | Heil_Eris | no "Haut" is skin |
| 22:33:50 | dstar5 | humm |
| 22:33:51 | | Part ill |
| 22:33:58 | Heil_Eris | dstar5: sure that it is not a mistake in typing? |
| 22:34:32 | dstar5 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/apps/plugins/mosaique.c |
| 22:34:38 | dstar5 | #define HAUT 31 |
| 22:34:43 | dstar5 | don't think so... |
| 22:35:14 | dstar5 | it could be skin.. but does not make a whole lot of sense to me |
| 22:36:11 | Heil_Eris | dstar5: hmmm interessting ;) aks the developer but Haut is Skin in germany |
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| 22:44:32 | midk | hey bagder |
| 22:44:53 | midk | good timing - i wanted to point out the win32sim rocks haven't been updated since july 20 |
| 22:45:02 | Bagder | evening |
| 22:45:12 | midk | apparently all the other rocks are building and zipping just fine |
| 22:46:26 | Bagder | I don't understand |
| 22:46:58 | dstar5 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recorder/rocks.zip < not updated |
| 22:47:10 | midk | uh |
| 22:47:11 | midk | win32 sim |
| 22:47:22 | midk | http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recordersimwin32/rocks.zip < not updated |
| 22:47:23 | Bagder | why would anyone use that package? |
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| 22:47:37 | dstar5 | who knows :) |
| 22:47:38 | midk | i was going to take a couple new clock screenshots |
| 22:47:48 | dstar5 | i really think the sims should not be on the page anymore |
| 22:49:33 | Bagder | no longer in the bleeding edge box |
| 22:51:03 | midk | :\ |
| 22:51:32 | dstar5 | cool :) |
| 22:56:26 | dstar5 | Bagder, your http://daniel.haxx.se/talklikeme.cgi? page is cool :) |
| 22:56:52 | dstar5 | pardon me you take a walk later GNU modem. |
| 22:57:02 | Bagder | hehe |
| 22:57:10 | Bagder | very advanced AI in there |
| 22:59:16 | dstar5 | all it is is a collection of words? and just picks a few random ones? |
| 22:59:22 | Bagder | yes |
| 22:59:27 | dstar5 | is there any sorting of them? |
| 22:59:33 | dstar5 | like nouns.. verbs? |
| 22:59:48 | Bagder | it has some "normal" ones and some "techy" ones and it mixes them |
| 22:59:54 | dstar5 | ohh |
| 22:59:57 | dstar5 | neat |
| 22:59:58 | Bagder | I don't remember exactly how |
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| 23:00:16 | dstar5 | that should be my first php project :) |
| 23:00:36 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:12:00 | dstar5 | Bagder, still use amiga anymore? |
| 23:12:17 | dstar5 | i was playing with UAE today, quite interesting |
| 23:12:18 | Bagder | oh no, been many years since |
| 23:12:44 | dstar5 | i am quite confised by it also :) |
| 23:13:00 | dstar5 | i can't figure out how to close some windows in the workbench |
| 23:13:12 | dstar5 | they do not have that icon that closes them |
| 23:13:13 | Bagder | heh |
| 23:13:26 | dstar5 | and i can find no command to close them (exit, quit....) |
| 23:13:32 | dstar5 | how do you do it? |
| 23:13:50 | Bagder | I don't know |
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| 23:16:08 | amiconn | hi all |
| 23:16:27 | Bagder | hi |
| 23:16:33 | dstar5 | hi amiconn |
| 23:16:51 | amiconn | dstar5: You don't get some windows to close? |
| 23:16:56 | amiconn | ;-) |
| 23:17:03 | dstar5 | amiconn, how? :) |
| 23:17:24 | amiconn | Which ones? And what WB version do you use? |
| 23:17:41 | dstar5 | 1.3 |
| 23:17:51 | amiconn | :( Current is 3.9 |
| 23:17:57 | dstar5 | like the talk program, those two windows that open, how do i remove them? |
| 23:18:19 | dstar5 | (that talk program is quite amasing btw! for those years...) |
| 23:18:52 | amiconn | Sorry, no idea. The time I used 1.3 is looong over |
| 23:19:03 | dstar5 | heh |
| 23:19:27 | dstar5 | what kickstart version is newest? |
| 23:19:39 | amiconn | Latest (rom) kickstart is 3.1 |
| 23:20:42 | dstar5 | ok |
| 23:20:47 | dstar5 | i should get that |
| 23:21:37 | amiconn | I don't even have WB 1.3 laying around - the oldest I have is 3.0, originally supplied with my A4000 back in 1994 |
| 23:23:11 | dstar5 | wow :) |
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| 23:31:06 | amiconn | dstar5: If you plan to use WinUAE for (older) Amiga games, kickstart 1.3 should be the most compatible version. However, if you want to try newer games and/ or apps, you should use kickstart 3.1 with wb >= 3.1 |
| 23:31:26 | zeekoe | amiconn: are you guiding him on WinUAE too, now? ;-) |
| 23:31:52 | amiconn | zeekoe: Only a few tips from an Amigan ;-) |
| 23:31:57 | zeekoe | :-P |
| 23:32:09 | zeekoe | today i built ppjoy |
| 23:32:15 | zeekoe | it's cool :-P |
| 23:32:21 | amiconn | ?? |
| 23:32:30 | zeekoe | now i can use my old amiga joystick connected to the parallel port |
| 23:32:39 | amiconn | Ah ok |
| 23:32:41 | zeekoe | to play old amiga games when i was 10 years old or so |
| 23:32:43 | zeekoe | :-P |
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| 23:54:31 | dstar5 | see you all :) :) |
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| 23:54:49 | Smooth | bye |
| 23:54:57 | midk | wow, nice reflexe |
| 23:55:02 | midk | reflexes, rather. |
| 23:56:26 | Smooth | ok# |
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