| 00:12:38 | Smooth | lol like that guess the mp3 feature request |
| 00:12:55 | midk | bc wrote a plugin for that iirc |
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| 01:00:35 | sol | hello |
| 01:00:48 | midk | hi |
| 01:00:59 | sol | this is rockbox irc right? |
| 01:01:06 | midk | yes |
| 01:01:16 | sol | ok may i ask for some advice? |
| 01:01:29 | sol | today, on the train to work, |
| 01:01:42 | dstar5 | you dropped it? |
| 01:01:46 | sol | suddenly song titles (filenames) were no longer appearing |
| 01:02:05 | sol | yet, initially, i could see them and select songs |
| 01:02:06 | midk | yes, that'd be because your files are incorrectly id3 tagged. |
| 01:02:12 | dstar5 | sol: do you see the files while on usb? |
| 01:02:13 | midk | i'd suggest you create your own wps |
| 01:02:18 | sol | i think it is worse than that |
| 01:02:27 | sol | i mean NO FILES |
| 01:02:33 | midk | that would be it if the rest of the info was still there.. |
| 01:02:38 | midk | oh, you couldn't see them at all? |
| 01:02:45 | sol | and when i now connect via usb2 to xp box |
| 01:02:46 | dstar5 | midk: DUH! |
| 01:02:59 | sol | it is NOT recognized as mass storage device! |
| 01:03:04 | midk | dstar5, congrats. you've reached the next level of immaturity |
| 01:03:44 | dstar5 | sol: can you go to main menu, info, debug (keep out), and view partitions? |
| 01:03:57 | sol | one sec. |
| 01:03:59 | dstar5 | tell me what that says |
| 01:04:22 | sol | yes |
| 01:04:28 | sol | P0: S:3F |
| 01:04:36 | sol | T:C 19061 MB |
| 01:04:52 | dstar5 | well... the partition shouls still be there... |
| 01:04:58 | sol | i have a feeling it is a corrupt fs |
| 01:05:07 | sol | i noticed odd filenames recently |
| 01:05:26 | sol | and the kicker is |
| 01:05:37 | sol | that when i mounted on a linux machine |
| 01:05:45 | sol | less free space was avail. |
| 01:05:56 | dstar5 | sol: well, the drive shold still be recognised even if the partiion is dead |
| 01:06:16 | sol | it is not recognized from XP box |
| 01:06:30 | ze | midk: remember how that router runs linux, but the matching pci card doesn't have native linux support? |
| 01:06:54 | ze | midk: here's something funny... i got stuff to telnet into the router, and i cat'd /proc/pci and guess what |
| 01:06:56 | midk | yeah |
| 01:07:02 | ze | midk: the router uses the SAME chipset as the pci card |
| 01:07:20 | dstar5 | hehe |
| 01:07:40 | dstar5 | sol: well.. i can't tell you anything really... |
| 01:07:43 | midk | umm |
| 01:07:49 | sol | ol |
| 01:07:50 | sol | ok |
| 01:07:52 | ze | so there actually is a native linux driver for that card, basically |
| 01:08:01 | sol | probably, yes |
| 01:08:04 | ze | except they haven't released it publically |
| 01:08:11 | sol | anyhow |
| 01:08:15 | midk | ze, well why doesn't it work then? tell me that |
| 01:08:28 | sol | if i have to make a new fs - what is it so be vfat? |
| 01:08:39 | ze | and i bet it's binary-only in the source release they have of the "firmware" |
| 01:08:48 | dstar5 | sol: fat32 |
| 01:08:48 | ze | midk: why doesn't what work? |
| 01:08:59 | sol | just one partition? |
| 01:09:00 | dstar5 | sol: vfat on linux... |
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| 01:09:12 | midk | ze: i mean why didn't your linux driver work with your pci card right away? |
| 01:09:15 | dstar5 | you can make multiple partitions... |
| 01:09:26 | ze | and seeings how the router uses a MIPS cpu, i can't even use the binary driver on the pc |
| 01:09:30 | dstar5 | but i see no need to |
| 01:09:37 | sol | can = should? |
| 01:09:41 | sol | ok |
| 01:09:42 | ze | midk: what linux driver? i haven't even tried to get it working yet |
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| 01:09:42 | sol | thanx |
| 01:09:48 | sol | i'll give it a try when i get |
| 01:09:49 | sol | home |
| 01:09:55 | sol | what a bummer |
| 01:09:57 | ze | midk: the only native linux driver that exists for that chipset |
| 01:09:58 | dstar5 | sol: hope you get that :) |
| 01:09:58 | midk | ze, uh, you tried yestarday, didn't you? |
| 01:10:04 | ze | midk: is on the router |
| 01:10:06 | midk | yesterday* |
| 01:10:10 | ze | no, i still haven't installed the OS on there |
| 01:10:13 | ze | like i told you |
| 01:10:24 | midk | the pci card. |
| 01:10:26 | midk | not the router |
| 01:10:32 | ze | yes |
| 01:10:39 | dstar5 | are you talking about that one routr that you can install linux on? |
| 01:10:39 | ze | i still haven't installed the OS on the pc that the pci card is in |
| 01:10:45 | ze | so how can i try a driver |
| 01:10:53 | ze | dstar5: it's not just that you can install it on it |
| 01:10:57 | midk | ze, you just TRIED YESTERDAY. |
| 01:10:59 | ze | dstar5: it comes with linux on it |
| 01:11:16 | ze | dstar5: the linksys wrt54g and wrt54gs |
| 01:11:20 | ze | (we've got the gs) |
| 01:11:39 | dstar5 | :) i have heard about those :) |
| 01:11:47 | ze | the linux deal for it is actually just a telnetd and set of basic commands so you can telnet in and check it out |
| 01:12:16 | dstar5 | i heard that wa done through a flaw in the ping |
| 01:12:21 | ze | and also linksys released the "firmware" (read: their own linux distro) for it source |
| 01:12:24 | ze | yeah |
| 01:12:34 | ze | and there's forked versions of that firmware available that you can flash on it |
| 01:13:01 | ze | but the page i found that links to their firmware source download page mentions that they released the source to "all but a few binary-only drivers" |
| 01:13:12 | ze | which probably includes the wifi chipset driver :/ |
| 01:13:15 | ze | but i'm gonna check anyway |
| 01:13:16 | ze | heh |
| 01:13:23 | ze | i'm downloading the source... it's 150mb |
| 01:13:27 | ze | gzip'd |
| 01:13:28 | ze | heh |
| 01:13:41 | midk | 150mb? holy shit. |
| 01:13:51 | dstar5 | thta shouldnot take long |
| 01:13:52 | ze | well figure it's probably the kernel source |
| 01:13:56 | ze | plus source to various other stuff |
| 01:14:20 | ze | well i got about 36 minutes left |
| 01:14:21 | dstar5 | i could get that in about 30 secs or less :) |
| 01:14:26 | dstar5 | at the library |
| 01:14:29 | ze | heh |
| 01:14:29 | sol | thanx fellas - be back soon |
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| 01:14:39 | ze | i'm on 384/96 dsl |
| 01:14:43 | midk | uh, i thought the connection was 1.5 megabytes a second max? that |
| 01:14:47 | dstar5 | the kernel source uncompressed is a few hundred mb... |
| 01:14:49 | midk | that's assuming the server can upload that fast |
| 01:15:02 | dstar5 | midk: would be for 10mbit NIC |
| 01:15:16 | midk | "for 10mbit NIC"? |
| 01:15:18 | dstar5 | midk: i do get servers sometimes that fast though... |
| 01:15:22 | midk | what do you mean, for? |
| 01:15:27 | dstar5 | 10mbits= 1.5mbytes |
| 01:15:28 | ze | my uncompressed 2.4.25 source tree is 191mb |
| 01:15:33 | midk | so.. 150mb at 1.5mbps isn't 30 seconds |
| 01:15:41 | ze | actually 1.25 sin't it |
| 01:15:43 | ze | heh |
| 01:15:52 | ze | 10/8 |
| 01:15:53 | dstar5 | somethign like that |
| 01:16:03 | dstar5 | 1.25 |
| 01:16:04 | dstar5 | yes |
| 01:16:14 | ze | so 100mbit |
| 01:16:20 | ze | is 12.5MB/s |
| 01:16:21 | midk | try something more like 100 seconds |
| 01:16:22 | dstar5 | 12.5mbytes |
| 01:16:34 | ze | max, not counting tcp overhead and whatever else slows shit down |
| 01:16:42 | dstar5 | i have downloaded fedora in 1min 45 secs :) |
| 01:16:54 | dstar5 | (1 disk) |
| 01:16:56 | dstar5 | of it |
| 01:17:11 | ze | 150mb would take 30 seconds to download at 5MB/s |
| 01:17:36 | Hadaka | 10Mbit NIC is 10 000 000bit NIC, remember that too - so it's not binary megs |
| 01:17:37 | midk | heh. fedora is ~700mb. you can'd do 700mb at 1.5mbps in 1m 45s |
| 01:17:47 | ze | Hadaka: gah |
| 01:17:49 | ze | heh |
| 01:17:55 | midk | it'd take more like 400 seconds |
| 01:18:00 | ze | damn stupid hardware makers |
| 01:18:03 | midk | assuming again that the mirror was that fast |
| 01:18:09 | midk | which they RARELY are |
| 01:18:12 | dstar5 | midk: the librars's NICS are 100mbit |
| 01:18:12 | ze | it's binary stuff |
| 01:18:21 | dstar5 | the mirror was local.... |
| 01:18:23 | ze | i can see the utility of representing the measurement in base-10 |
| 01:18:24 | dstar5 | same city as me |
| 01:18:25 | ze | it's easier to read for people |
| 01:18:32 | ze | but you shouldn't actually make the measurements in base-10 |
| 01:18:44 | ze | heh |
| 01:19:47 | ze | i dunno i guess it's all mixed up anyway |
| 01:19:53 | midk | dstar5, your internet connection limits the speed, usually, not the NIC |
| 01:20:20 | dstar5 | midk: OSU has a oc connection... |
| 01:20:23 | dstar5 | not sure which one |
| 01:20:38 | ze | but still, if it's n bits, it's (2^n/8) bytes, and bytes/2^10 kb, and kb/2^10 mb |
| 01:20:41 | midk | you get 1.5mbps. you told me that. |
| 01:20:43 | midk | stfu! |
| 01:21:03 | dstar5 | no i didn't |
| 01:21:06 | ze | midk: when did he say that? |
| 01:21:15 | midk | not to you. to me |
| 01:21:21 | ze | heh |
| 01:21:36 | dstar5 | you can see it |
| 01:21:59 | dstar5 | when i am at the library tomorrow, ill make a screnshot of me going at faster than 1.25 mbytes |
| 01:22:07 | ze | heh |
| 01:22:08 | midk | 1 . 5 m b p s |
| 01:22:10 | midk | ONE. POINT. FIVE. |
| 01:22:18 | ze | what gets 1.5 |
| 01:22:24 | ze | 10mbit is only 1.25 |
| 01:22:28 | ze | so if he can even get 1.5 |
| 01:22:33 | ze | then he must be on 100mbit |
| 01:22:41 | dstar5 | :) |
| 01:22:50 | midk | ze: he told me, that his speed, was, 1.5mbps. i'd like to see a screenshot of this. |
| 01:22:53 | ze | in which case he can get whatever the internet connection can do |
| 01:22:55 | dstar5 | i can make mutible ones of you want, just incase you think i am faking |
| 01:23:06 | ze | and if it's got an oc-something |
| 01:23:07 | dstar5 | i will even take a webcam tomorrow, and make screnies that way |
| 01:23:10 | ze | then i'm sure it can do better than 1.5 |
| 01:23:12 | ze | heh |
| 01:23:21 | dstar5 | ill show a note next to the monitoa also so you know :) |
| 01:23:24 | midk | ze: i want to SEE this. do you not understand? |
| 01:23:41 | ze | i never saw him say anything about 1.5mb/s |
| 01:23:51 | ze | and even if he did, was that specifically in reference to the library's connection? |
| 01:23:54 | ze | heh |
| 01:23:57 | dstar5 | midk: brain fart? |
| 01:24:00 | midk | because you're never in the oft-occurring private chates we partake in |
| 01:24:09 | ze | i see |
| 01:24:11 | midk | used to, that is |
| 01:24:18 | ze | heh |
| 01:24:24 | ze | my water bottle's gone retarded |
| 01:24:25 | midk | even if he said it in the channel you wouldn't have noticed |
| 01:24:29 | dstar5 | i thought i heard midk's brain fart! |
| 01:24:31 | ze | damn dasani bottles are all lame and stuff |
| 01:24:43 | ze | i drop it twice and now 2 of the little feet dealy (which are dumb anyway) got squished in |
| 01:24:50 | ze | so it barely stands up on a hard surface and not at all on carpet |
| 01:25:01 | dstar5 | lol |
| 01:25:12 | dstar5 | i could use a cherry coke right now |
| 01:25:18 | ze | heh |
| 01:25:27 | ze | my parents bought diet pepsi or whatever it is |
| 01:25:38 | ze | and a bottle of cherry syrup to add to it to make cherry pepsi |
| 01:25:41 | ze | but semi-"diet" |
| 01:25:43 | dstar5 | lol |
| 01:25:50 | dstar5 | good one |
| 01:25:50 | ze | even though cherry syrup + diet pepsi |
| 01:25:57 | ze | probably has just as much sugar as cherry pepsi |
| 01:25:59 | ze | heh |
| 01:26:09 | ze | plus toxic artificial sweeteners |
| 01:26:10 | ze | :p |
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| 01:26:46 | ze | they bought it at sams club or costco too |
| 01:26:55 | ze | so it's not just like some little bottle of cherry syrup |
| 01:26:57 | ze | it's like a gallon of it |
| 01:27:07 | dstar5 | ze: you live on west coast? |
| 01:27:13 | ze | yeah |
| 01:27:22 | sol | ok, got the fm juke to be recognized as usb mass storage |
| 01:27:33 | dstar5 | sol: good :) |
| 01:27:40 | sol | only prob = still no filenames |
| 01:27:41 | dstar5 | sol: any more problems? |
| 01:27:51 | sol | i can see all files when mounted from XP box |
| 01:28:17 | dstar5 | umm |
| 01:28:19 | sol | but can't see music while going thru folders in rockbox |
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| 01:28:41 | dstar5 | sol: maybe you can try pressing F2, and change the Show files settting to all files |
| 01:29:08 | sol | why |
| 01:29:15 | sol | i can see all the files from xp |
| 01:29:33 | ze | sol do you always umount (in linux) or eject/"safely remove hardware" (in windows) before unplugging the device? |
| 01:29:37 | ze | sol: he means in rockbox |
| 01:29:40 | dstar5 | it may be for some reason that the mp3's are hidden... rockbox does not show them, unless you are showing all fiels |
| 01:29:49 | sol | hmm |
| 01:30:48 | sol | damn i'm a moron |
| 01:30:51 | sol | thanx! |
| 01:31:03 | dstar5 | sol: :) |
| 01:31:11 | dstar5 | sol: you don't sound likea moron |
| 01:31:20 | dstar5 | sol: you can use linux right :) |
| 01:31:51 | sol | i can |
| 01:32:17 | sol | lazy is more like it - need to skim the rockbox doc.s |
| 01:32:39 | dstar5 | sol: and better than someone that just pooped in a knoppix, you can actauly mount a device :) |
| 01:32:59 | sol | lol |
| 01:33:25 | sol | thanx ze and dstar5 |
| 01:33:57 | dstar5 | welcome |
| 01:34:13 | sol | can rockbox use other fs than vfat? |
| 01:34:49 | dstar5 | sol: nope fat is supported because most users are in windows, and cant use partions like ext2/3 or reiser fs or whatever |
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| 01:35:28 | dstar5 | and adding support would take more room valuable in rockbox |
| 01:35:31 | sol | gotta say, i love my rockbox! got the thing on ebay for $60, fixed it - today was my first problem :) |
| 01:35:43 | dstar5 | sol: 60$ nice! |
| 01:35:58 | sol | yes, the doof used the wrong a/c adapter b4 |
| 01:36:14 | sol | and the battery terminals were bent so that they no longer contacted |
| 01:36:20 | dstar5 | sol: heh mine came with a bad one also, and also alkaline abtteries in ti ouch! |
| 01:36:53 | sol | i just need to get off my azz and put a mini jack in the car so i can listen on the road |
| 01:37:00 | dstar5 | but i don't think the person actauly used it with those batteries, just popped those in when it was sold |
| 01:37:34 | dstar5 | sol: :) |
| 01:39:09 | ze | heh |
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| 01:47:04 | sol | ipods are whimpy! |
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| 01:49:40 | sol | ipods are whimpy! |
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| 01:54:09 | ze | ah this firmware source comes with the whole build environment apparently |
| 01:54:48 | ze | and glibc source |
| 01:55:05 | ze | and linux kernel source |
| 01:55:18 | ze | and holy crap it's taking up a lot of space untarring |
| 01:55:28 | midk | haha |
| 01:55:29 | midk | how much |
| 01:55:33 | ze | err |
| 01:55:35 | ze | ok that was weird |
| 01:55:40 | ze | i had 1.1G free or so to start |
| 01:55:48 | midk | uh oh. |
| 01:55:51 | ze | and it got down to only 385MB free |
| 01:55:59 | ze | and then it started going back up |
| 01:56:08 | ze | and there was 567mb free |
| 01:56:09 | ze | heh |
| 01:56:22 | midk | are you done with your stupid busy-ness now? |
| 01:56:22 | ze | now there's 320mb free |
| 01:56:35 | ze | i haven't even installed the OS on the pvr system |
| 01:56:36 | ze | so now |
| 01:56:37 | ze | er |
| 01:56:38 | ze | no |
| 01:56:38 | ze | heh |
| 01:56:43 | ze | ok 708MB uncompressed |
| 01:56:44 | ze | heh |
| 01:57:45 | sol | ze what are u doing? (if u don't mind me asking) |
| 01:57:51 | ze | blah |
| 01:58:05 | ze | the wl driver is indeed a bunch of .o files just waiting for linking into a module |
| 01:58:13 | ze | hmm but they're not stripped |
| 01:58:22 | ze | i wonder if they could be reverse engineered by somebody who knows how to do such things |
| 01:58:26 | ze | heh |
| 01:59:37 | ze | sol: setting up a PVR system |
| 01:59:45 | ze | sol: and i gotta get this linksys wifi card working on it too |
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| 02:00:27 | sol | ah |
| 02:00:28 | ze | i was hoping i could steal the native linux driver for it from the linux distro that comes on the router/wap that uses the same wifi chipset |
| 02:00:36 | ze | but it's binary-only compiled for MIPS |
| 02:00:48 | sol | jeez |
| 02:00:49 | ze | so i gotta use this ndiswrapper deal to use the windows driver in linux for it |
| 02:00:52 | ze | isn't that retarded? |
| 02:00:52 | ze | heh |
| 02:01:10 | sol | sounds frustrating |
| 02:03:50 | sol | i have directv, thus was forced to use directivo :( |
| 02:03:57 | ze | heh |
| 02:04:17 | ze | you can't hook directv to a tv card somehow? |
| 02:04:28 | ze | or just not with the quality you want? |
| 02:04:35 | sol | right |
| 02:05:03 | sol | plus, the directv receiver can not be controlled by tv card |
| 02:05:17 | ze | well there's usually ways around that |
| 02:05:24 | ze | if nothing else, with an IR transmitter |
| 02:05:24 | ze | heh |
| 02:05:31 | sol | ugh |
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| 02:06:13 | ze | yeah i guess i'm more inclined to rig and hack stuff together than most people |
| 02:06:37 | dstar5 | anyone want to see my dl speed? |
| 02:06:42 | ze | sure |
| 02:06:49 | dstar5 | i can make a screenie right qucik :) |
| 02:08:22 | dstar5 | its a little slower than i wanted |
| 02:08:25 | ze | heh |
| 02:08:35 | dstar5 | only 1.9 mbytes ps |
| 02:09:00 | dstar5 | *2.9 sorry! |
| 02:09:03 | ze | heh |
| 02:09:36 | ze | still pretty good |
| 02:10:54 | dstar5 | :) |
| 02:11:06 | midk | thanks dstar |
| 02:11:23 | dstar5 | beat that :) |
| 02:11:37 | midk | can't |
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| 02:29:30 | ze | doh |
| 02:29:42 | ze | so it turns out that my filesystems on that system are xfs |
| 02:29:52 | ze | which might be why partition magic didn't support it |
| 02:29:53 | ze | heh |
| 02:30:00 | ze | but so i made this parted bootcd |
| 02:30:02 | ze | and got it going |
| 02:30:07 | ze | and go to copy the filesystem |
| 02:30:17 | ze | and "reading xfs filesystem not supported yet" |
| 02:30:20 | ze | :/ |
| 02:30:25 | midk | HAHA |
| 02:30:28 | midk | no wonder. idiot. |
| 02:30:30 | midk | ;] |
| 02:30:37 | ze | but why doesn't parted support it |
| 02:30:39 | ze | heh |
| 02:36:44 | ze | hmm |
| 02:36:47 | | Quit midk ("just STOP it arspy") |
| 02:36:52 | ze | the kernel i used apparently doesn't have xfs support... blah |
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| 02:37:16 | ze | the kernel i used apparently doesn't have xfs support... blah |
| 02:37:16 | ze | :p |
| 02:37:18 | dstar5 | partition magic sticks |
| 02:37:25 | ze | sticks? |
| 02:37:30 | ze | you mean stinks? |
| 02:37:31 | ze | heh |
| 02:37:37 | dstar5 | doesnt support many FSA types, and it says my jukebox drive is bad because of settings on sector 63 |
| 02:37:39 | ze | well yeah but i'm using parted now |
| 02:37:43 | dstar5 | yes stinks |
| 02:38:54 | ze | got i've wasted like 10 cd's on making bootable partition editing cd's |
| 02:38:54 | ze | heh |
| 02:39:31 | ze | ok this one with an xfs-supporting kernel better support copying xfs partitions |
| 02:39:31 | ze | :p |
| 02:39:44 | dstar5 | there is no good partition maker/editor ;( |
| 02:39:59 | ze | parted seems ok as far as i can tell |
| 02:40:11 | dstar5 | but does not support all partitions... |
| 02:40:31 | ze | like what? |
| 02:41:00 | dstar5 | ntfs for one |
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| 02:42:40 | ze | gah. |
| 02:42:51 | ze | even with the xfs-supporting kernel parted still doesn't support xfs |
| 02:42:54 | ze | so yeah i see what you mean |
| 02:43:06 | ze | grr so another cd wasted for no reason |
| 02:43:07 | ze | :p |
| 02:43:14 | dstar5 | ? |
| 02:43:58 | ze | i burned another cd with parted with an xfs-supporting kernel |
| 02:44:15 | ze | so i guess i just gotta do it with like cp -a |
| 02:44:16 | ze | or something |
| 02:44:17 | ze | heh |
| 02:44:18 | dstar5 | lol |
| 02:44:56 | ze | lets see... |
| 02:45:06 | ze | does tar catch anything that cp -a might miss? |
| 02:45:38 | dstar5 | who knows... i would think sothough, it was made for unix, and should support all attributes |
| 02:45:56 | ze | which, cp -a? |
| 02:45:57 | ze | heh |
| 02:46:06 | dstar5 | i know tar would not work on masosx, since the files on it have a ttributes that tar does not support |
| 02:47:40 | dstar5 | why would you have xfs on your sytem anyway? lol |
| 02:47:50 | ze | er why not? |
| 02:48:01 | ze | i use it on this system too |
| 02:48:02 | dstar5 | why not just use the native ext3? |
| 02:48:07 | ze | because i had an ext3 partition |
| 02:48:11 | ze | and something happened to it |
| 02:48:15 | ze | and it corrupted the filesystem |
| 02:48:20 | ze | and i never was able to recover any data from it |
| 02:48:23 | ze | i lost my whole /home |
| 02:48:23 | dstar5 | :( |
| 02:48:30 | ze | so it's like a lot of good ext3 journalling does |
| 02:48:34 | ze | it just lets errors go undetected |
| 02:48:41 | dstar5 | i wonder about reiser fs... |
| 02:49:15 | ze | i dunno |
| 02:49:18 | ze | i forget what it was |
| 02:49:26 | ze | it seems like i looked into reiserfs and xfs both |
| 02:49:35 | ze | and for some reason decided to go with xfs |
| 02:50:10 | ze | although i've still had some funkyness with xfs too |
| 02:50:16 | ze | the deal with the ext3 screwup |
| 02:50:18 | ze | i've got like |
| 02:50:24 | ze | via+amd+nvidia |
| 02:50:32 | ze | which altogether has some sorta bugs |
| 02:50:35 | dstar5 | http://www.namesys.com/benchmarks.html they say its faster... scroll down to the graphs... |
| 02:50:39 | ze | where it's prone to hardlocks when you use the video card |
| 02:50:42 | ze | in 3D |
| 02:50:57 | ze | and i played quake3 a lot |
| 02:51:02 | dstar5 | ext3 with journaling is slowest :P |
| 02:51:03 | dstar5 | lol |
| 02:51:04 | ze | so i'd get a lot of hardlocks and have to reset |
| 02:51:17 | ze | and it was after several of those that the ext3 filesystem started acting strange |
| 02:51:22 | ze | free space not showing up properly |
| 02:51:26 | ze | then like i/o errors on some files |
| 02:52:01 | dstar5 | i will never use ext3 again.... |
| 02:52:52 | ze | then i tried to fsck it, and i think i really screwed it up then |
| 02:53:03 | ze | iirc i didn't umount it first, and that was my mistake |
| 02:53:10 | ze | after that it was unreadable |
| 02:53:32 | ze | i've still got a 3GB file that i made with cp or dd of the partition |
| 02:53:40 | ze | in case i can recover data from it somehow eventually |
| 02:53:41 | dstar5 | ouch |
| 02:54:45 | dstar5 | i think i will use reiserfs next time i install linux |
| 02:55:09 | midk | reiserfs = not that good |
| 02:55:23 | dstar5 | midk, and you know this how? |
| 02:55:40 | midk | put it this way: you know it's good how? |
| 02:56:13 | dstar5 | the statistics on speed look way better that ext3 infact ext3 look worse than ext2 |
| 02:56:16 | dstar5 | just look |
| 02:56:19 | dstar5 | http://www.namesys.com/benchmarks.html |
| 02:57:03 | dstar5 | midk, so now how do you know it is bad? |
| 02:58:19 | midk | i was lying |
| 02:59:42 | dstar5 | thought so... |
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| 03:08:08 | ze | heh |
| 03:08:13 | ze | midk lies a lot |
| 03:08:14 | midk | ? |
| 03:08:17 | midk | i do? |
| 03:08:22 | ze | "TRY IT" |
| 03:08:23 | ze | :p |
| 03:08:27 | midk | try what? |
| 03:08:36 | ze | whatever |
| 03:08:36 | ze | heh |
| 03:08:43 | midk | ... you don't make any sense. |
| 03:08:46 | ze | all that crap with my code |
| 03:08:53 | ze | heh like %d would make a difference from %i |
| 03:08:55 | ze | :p |
| 03:09:09 | midk | you're JUST NOW UNDERSTANDING that I was of no use? |
| 03:09:25 | ze | no |
| 03:09:33 | ze | i'm just speaking of such |
| 03:09:35 | ze | anyway |
| 03:09:49 | ze | dstar5: a filesystem is basically a kind of database isn't it? |
| 03:10:07 | ze | dstar5: so i wonder of using actual databases like SQL or oracle as a filesystem |
| 03:10:18 | dstar5 | ﺛﺃﯽﺛﺃﯽze: err i think so kinda of |
| 03:10:18 | ze | dstar5: i dunno much about db's though, i wonder what the advantages/disadvantages would be |
| 03:10:29 | dstar5 | ntfs uses a database i know |
| 03:10:52 | ze | but the way sql/oracle type databases seem to access data |
| 03:10:56 | ze | like fast fast fast |
| 03:10:57 | ze | and whatnot |
| 03:10:58 | ze | heh |
| 03:11:08 | ze | i dunno it just seems like that'd be good for a filesystem to do |
| 03:11:19 | ze | i think the whole file/directory paradigm might be outdated as well |
| 03:11:26 | ze | less than optimal for modern computing |
| 03:11:38 | ze | though symlinks help |
| 03:11:50 | ze | but really data relates in all sorts of complex ways |
| 03:12:05 | ze | that the whole file/directory system just makes cumbersome |
| 03:12:48 | ze | from what i can tell, databases seem to be like dynamic in their data organization |
| 03:13:01 | ze | but like i said i dunno much about it |
| 03:13:04 | ze | so i could be way off base |
| 03:13:05 | ze | heh |
| 03:13:36 | dstar5 | lol |
| 03:14:55 | dstar5 | bye bye everyone!!!!!! |
| 03:15:05 | ze | i also think the GUI/commandline dichotomy is overdue for a change |
| 03:15:16 | ze | i want a nice clean merging with the advantages of both |
| 03:15:16 | ze | :p |
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| 03:22:51 | ze | hmm so reiser4 is faster for cp and sync than reiserfs but slower for rm |
| 03:23:05 | ze | and everything else is slow shit |
| 03:23:06 | ze | heh |
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| 03:23:22 | midk | gaha |
| 03:23:24 | ze | maybe i oughtta use reiserfs or reiser4 for the PVR |
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| 03:30:31 | dstar5 | me back |
| 03:31:17 | dstar5 | i am goign to play WCII |
| 03:31:23 | dstar5 | anyone else have it to play? :) |
| 03:31:46 | dstar5 | guess no |
| 03:31:50 | dstar5 | see you |
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| 03:55:30 | Ramin | Can anyone in here help me with Cgywin |
| 03:55:46 | Ramin | Hello. |
| 03:55:57 | Ramin | IS ANYONE HOME!!! |
| 03:55:58 | midk | hi. why don't you just ask the question? |
| 03:56:04 | Ramin | i did |
| 03:56:07 | Ramin | o |
| 03:56:07 | midk | uh. give us a few seconds. thanks. |
| 03:56:11 | Ramin | Ok |
| 03:56:43 | midk | so you want the answer to "can anyone help me?" and then you'll leave? |
| 03:57:08 | Ramin | Well, My problem is that i downloaded Cgywin and installed it 'n stuff. But now i want to know how to compile .C ext. |
| 03:58:41 | midk | a plugin? |
| 03:58:49 | midk | is this at all rockbox-related? |
| 03:58:54 | Ramin | No... |
| 03:59:05 | Ramin | But someone in one of the logs was talking bout it |
| 03:59:10 | midk | uh.. you may want to try #cygwin in that case. or visit their website. |
| 03:59:14 | midk | we compile rockbox with cygwin |
| 03:59:21 | midk | (windows users do) |
| 03:59:29 | Ramin | Well can you tell me "How" You compiled it? |
| 03:59:47 | midk | we use a makefile. it's comprised of a lot of .c files |
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| 04:00:23 | Ramin | i cant find a makefile |
| 04:00:28 | Ramin | im looking at all the commands |
| 04:00:46 | midk | #cygwin may be able to help. |
| 04:01:01 | Ramin | But if you've done it then why couldnt you help me? |
| 04:01:02 | Ramin | EH! |
| 04:01:24 | Ramin | is it exec -a name? |
| 04:01:37 | midk | i wouldn't know. that's not the way we do it. but i doubt it. |
| 04:01:46 | Ramin | How "do" you do it? |
| 04:02:01 | midk | with. a. makefile. |
| 04:02:29 | Ramin | Whats the exact command? Makefile? |
| 04:02:46 | Ramin | Or is MakeFile some other program or something.. |
| 04:02:46 | midk | it's not a command. it's a file. make file. |
| 04:02:51 | Ramin | Ok |
| 04:03:04 | Ramin | Well i already have my file out and i named it Thing.c |
| 04:03:12 | Ramin | What do i do with it? |
| 04:03:38 | midk | i already told you. we don't make plain .c files. visit #cygwin or use google. thanks |
| 04:03:53 | Ramin | meanie!!!! |
| 04:03:56 | * | Ramin slaps midk around a bit with a large trout |
| 04:03:59 | Ramin | :D |
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| 04:12:48 | midk | ZE |
| 04:13:31 | ze | hmm |
| 04:13:39 | midk | are you still busy? |
| 04:13:53 | ze | gcc -o Thing.exe Thing.c |
| 04:13:54 | ze | :p |
| 04:14:02 | midk | too late |
| 04:14:06 | ze | or something along those lines |
| 04:14:10 | ze | yeah i know |
| 04:14:11 | ze | but still |
| 04:14:12 | ze | :p |
| 04:14:13 | ze | and yes |
| 04:14:14 | midk | yeah. that's it i'm quite sure |
| 04:14:21 | ze | it's checking for bad blocks |
| 04:14:24 | midk | actually.. it's Thing.o, not Thing.exe (iirc?) |
| 04:14:29 | ze | before making an ext2 filesystem |
| 04:14:30 | ze | well |
| 04:14:31 | midk | hmm. never mind. |
| 04:14:41 | midk | Get Un-Busy. |
| 04:14:42 | ze | it's Thing.o if it needs to be linked with other .o files |
| 04:14:53 | midk | STFY! |
| 04:15:04 | ze | if it's self-contained then gcc can do the linking for you and output the exe |
| 04:15:04 | ze | heh |
| 04:15:14 | ze | without having to much with any .o files |
| 04:15:16 | midk | stfy. |
| 04:15:18 | midk | S T F Y! |
| 04:15:19 | ze | s/much/muck/ |
| 04:15:25 | ze | whats the y? |
| 04:15:32 | midk | hmm. well... |
| 04:15:39 | midk | s = stop, y = yelling. |
| 04:15:42 | midk | t = that. |
| 04:15:44 | midk | f = f. |
| 04:15:58 | ze | stop that ferken yelling? |
| 04:16:08 | midk | yeah that's it |
| 04:16:09 | midk | :] |
| 04:16:19 | ze | i'm not yelling though |
| 04:16:22 | ze | you're the one yelling STFY |
| 04:16:23 | ze | :p |
| 04:16:27 | midk | STFY! |
| 04:16:34 | ze | OK, IS THIS BETTER!? |
| 04:16:42 | * | midk shoots monsters in doom3 like he shoots things in real life |
| 04:16:46 | midk | yes. now STFY! |
| 04:16:50 | midk | s = start this time |
| 04:17:00 | ze | if i had ops i'd kick you |
| 04:17:00 | ze | :p |
| 04:17:14 | midk | but you don't. |
| 04:17:17 | midk | now STFY. |
| 04:17:39 | ze | soda soda poppy! |
| 04:17:47 | midk | yes ia m |
| 04:17:49 | ze | what is #vegan |
| 04:17:51 | midk | er, i am/ |
| 04:17:53 | ze | are you vegan? |
| 04:17:54 | midk | it's a good channel. |
| 04:17:56 | midk | no. |
| 04:18:01 | ze | are they? |
| 04:18:06 | midk | most of them. |
| 04:18:12 | ze | why is that? |
| 04:18:16 | midk | they just ar. |
| 04:18:17 | midk | are* |
| 04:18:22 | ze | nuh uh |
| 04:18:29 | midk | they choose to. |
| 04:18:37 | ze | right, well choices must have a reason |
| 04:18:40 | ze | or they're not choices |
| 04:18:46 | ze | even if it's a subjective reason |
| 04:18:48 | midk | they like animals etc. |
| 04:18:55 | ze | well i like plants |
| 04:18:57 | midk | they just are vegan! |
| 04:19:00 | midk | EXACTLY. |
| 04:19:01 | midk | why? |
| 04:19:01 | ze | doesn't stop me from eating them |
| 04:19:05 | midk | WHY DO YOU LIKE PLANTS?! |
| 04:19:07 | midk | WHY?!!?! |
| 04:19:09 | ze | because they're nifty |
| 04:19:14 | midk | EVERY THIN HAS A REESUN! |
| 04:19:18 | ze | i mean look |
| 04:19:26 | ze | you take this little tiny round thing |
| 04:19:43 | ze | and put it in some dirt and water and light |
| 04:20:01 | midk | wtf. |
| 04:20:04 | ze | and it cracks open and this stuff comes out and forms a structure and does all kinds of stuff |
| 04:20:08 | ze | and gets real big and makes things |
| 04:20:12 | ze | and it's leet |
| 04:20:18 | midk | wtf are you talking about |
| 04:20:19 | ze | we don't have any kindof technology that can do that |
| 04:20:30 | midk | oh. |
| 04:20:38 | ze | plants. |
| 04:20:40 | ze | duh |
| 04:26:36 | ze | but why not eat cheese? |
| 04:26:50 | midk | hmm. they can't. |
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| 12:10:26 | pyed_p1per | heelo |
| 12:10:33 | Bagder | hi |
| 12:10:52 | pyed_p1per | my archos is having difficultys |
| 12:11:38 | pyed_p1per | i plug it in and it shows that is charging, but the batterys aren't |
| 12:11:57 | Bagder | tried new batteries? |
| 12:12:01 | pyed_p1per | yes |
| 12:12:10 | Bagder | then maybe the charging is broken |
| 12:13:33 | pyed_p1per | if i tell u wat it says in the batt menu in the debug menu will it mean anything |
| 12:14:21 | Bagder | well, if the batteries don't charge, then it doesn't charge |
| 12:14:33 | Bagder | I don't think I need more info than that |
| 12:14:48 | pyed_p1per | any ideas |
| 12:14:48 | Bagder | I'm not very good at what particular HW that might've broken to cause this |
| 12:15:11 | pyed_p1per | im from new zealand and i can't buy another 1 |
| 12:15:35 | Bagder | post to q to the mailing list, stating your detailed sympthoms and what you've tried so far |
| 12:16:18 | pyed_p1per | k |
| 12:17:24 | pyed_p1per | when it says its "charging" trickle charge is 0/60 |
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| 12:21:37 | pyed_p1per1 | there is a voltage across the batt terminals when i take the batt out which is strange |
| 12:23:41 | pyed_p1per1 | i gtg but ill be back 2mrw |
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| 12:29:08 | midk | Bagder, do you know if the recording bitrate is controlled by the MAS only? ie, if there were a better MAS in the ajb we could do better recordings like 256kbps? |
| 12:29:50 | midk | or does cpu speed / other hardware affect it too? |
| 12:30:04 | Bagder | its limited by the MAS only, yes |
| 12:30:26 | Bagder | since we can play 320kbps, we should be able to record it I think |
| 12:30:44 | midk | hmm. well archos uses the same mas in their av3xx series but they have a firmware upgrade which lets you record at 192kbps cbr |
| 12:31:06 | Bagder | then they've written MAS-code |
| 12:31:28 | Bagder | or something |
| 12:31:38 | midk | ahh... |
| 12:32:01 | midk | hmm, iirc linus got the docs needed to reprogram it? |
| 12:32:29 | Bagder | most of the docs was available on the web for a while, yes |
| 12:33:03 | midk | surely he kept them! |
| 12:33:19 | Bagder | I know several people have the docs |
| 12:33:41 | Bagder | I doubt we'll ever see anything coming out of that anyway |
| 12:33:48 | Bagder | its a hell of a job |
| 12:34:19 | midk | yeah, i can imagine |
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| 19:06:37 | dstar5 | amiconn: very interesting, amigoos 4.0 was released just last month http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_40.html |
| 19:07:25 | amiconn | I know; however, this is a pre-release only, not the official end-user version. |
| 19:08:19 | amiconn | Furthermore, AmigaOS 4.0 is not a simple update to 3.9 and will not run on the classic Amiga hardware (unless equipped with a PowerPC dual CPU card) |
| 19:08:34 | dstar5 | heh |
| 19:25:33 | zeekoe | amiga os 4 released? |
| 19:25:33 | zeekoe | fun |
| 19:26:10 | zeekoe | oh... june 2004 |
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| 20:43:37 | dstar5 | wow never seen an angry angel before :) |
| 20:44:15 | | Nick midk|sleep is now known as midk (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 20:44:38 | the_angry_angel | lol |
| 20:45:22 | the_angry_angel | this is probably a stupid question, but i cant seem to find the answer on the site: does rockbox support the jukebox multimedia 20GB model? |
| 20:46:47 | the_angry_angel | im 99% sure that it does |
| 20:48:19 | dstar5 | no |
| 20:48:23 | dstar5 | sorry |
| 20:48:36 | dstar5 | there have been some people that started a firmware fo rit i think |
| 20:48:39 | dstar5 | let me see.. |
| 20:48:41 | the_angry_angel | hmm |
| 20:49:59 | dstar5 | not seeing it |
| 20:50:03 | dstar5 | although there is avos |
| 20:50:08 | dstar5 | for av300 units |
| 20:50:11 | dstar5 | avos.sf.net |
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| 20:51:11 | dstar5 | the_angry_angel: sorry ): |
| 20:51:20 | the_angry_angel | s'ok :) |
| 20:51:21 | dstar5 | time for lunch |
| 20:51:24 | dstar5 | see you all |
| 20:51:26 | dstar5 | later |
| 20:51:29 | the_angry_angel | cya, and thanks |
| 20:51:33 | dstar5 | :) |
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| 22:15:56 | madman | any one here? |
| 22:16:41 | midk | dstar5 is |
| 22:16:50 | dstar5 | yes i am |
| 22:17:39 | madman | hey, can i ask you a quick question? |
| 22:18:22 | midk | i'd just ask |
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| 22:19:12 | Lee_ | sorry got dissconnected |
| 22:19:16 | Lee_ | what is your Q? |
| 22:19:21 | madman | whenever i try to make a directory, no matter the name of it, i get an error message saying *Panic* Stkov main |
| 22:19:31 | madman | and i have to hold off |
| 22:19:47 | madman | i have a jukebox recorder 20 |
| 22:20:03 | madman | and the build from the 8th |
| 22:20:11 | madman | (yesterday) |
| 22:20:45 | midk | i get it too |
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| 22:21:58 | gromit`` | lo |
| 22:22:31 | midk | yo. |
| 22:22:49 | madman | other than that, it works fine... |
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| 22:25:21 | amiconn | madman, midk: Strange, as I don't get that. How deep in the dir structure are you located when trying to make a directory? |
| 22:25:49 | midk | i tried it when overing over /.rockbox |
| 22:25:49 | | Nick zeekoe|tea is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 22:26:48 | amiconn | midk: Hmm. So you are in the root. I tried to create a number of dirs there, with name lengths of 3..10 chars. No stack overflow... |
| 22:27:06 | midk | i named it capital "AA" and hit ok |
| 22:27:23 | madman | i was in the root, and then i tried another folder, neither worked |
| 22:27:24 | midk | this is an 20040809 build |
| 22:28:33 | madman | i tried lowercase a, and a couple of other longer names, it still gives the error |
| 22:29:51 | madman | amiconn: are you trying it on the recorder 20? |
| 22:29:56 | amiconn | yup |
| 22:30:02 | midk | rec15 here |
| 22:30:08 | amiconn | (although upgraded to 80 GB) |
| 22:30:41 | madman | do you think it could be a HD error, since you upgraded yours? |
| 22:31:42 | amiconn | No, this seems to be a problem with insufficient stack (stkov means stack overflow). |
| 22:31:54 | madman | oh, ok |
| 22:32:17 | amiconn | Although I wasn't able to reproduce it myself, I found 2 intresting things about stack usage |
| 22:33:35 | amiconn | (1) Stack usage is very close to 100% (I observed 96..97%) after using "create directory" |
| 22:35:18 | amiconn | (2) (relative) stack usage of the main thread (only!) in ordinary rockbox is different from rombox (which I usually run). |
| 22:36:34 | amiconn | I should find out why (although I suspect Linus' latest changes of the linker script, since the rombox linker script doesn't incorporate them) |
| 22:37:00 | madman | ive never heard of rombox before... |
| 22:37:32 | zeekoe | madman: don't say that too loud here |
| 22:37:38 | zeekoe | madman: it's amiconn's little baby |
| 22:37:57 | zeekoe | together with [IDC]Dragon iirc |
| 22:38:27 | madman | haha, i meant to say that i loved rombox and wanted to learn more about it |
| 22:38:31 | amiconn | zeekoe: It isn't exactly my baby, since [IDC]Dragon invented it... |
| 22:39:12 | amiconn | I "only" found a bug preventing it to work, and then polished rockbox to gain even some more free ram |
| 22:39:34 | zeekoe | ok |
| 22:39:40 | amiconn | I just documented it in the wiki today, see http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/RomBox |
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| 22:39:52 | zeekoe | well, i just hope [IDC]Dragon doesn't read the logs ;-P |
| 22:40:07 | amiconn | Unfortunately, the recording bug is still unsolved... |
| 22:40:19 | madman | recording bug? |
| 22:40:32 | zeekoe | my mommy tells me i should shower... |
| 22:40:36 | | Nick zeekoe is now known as zeekoe|shower (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 22:40:46 | amiconn | madman: rombox doesn't always record, see the wiki link |
| 22:41:14 | madman | im reading the "drawbacks" now |
| 22:41:15 | zeekoe|shower | well, there is progress, isnt there? |
| 22:41:28 | zeekoe|shower | at first it never recorded :) |
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| 22:43:24 | amiconn | zeekoe|shower: I'm almost out of ideas atm... I'm just reading the i2c specs |
| 22:43:53 | madman | for some unknown reason, about a month ago, i read the entire FAQ for the rockbox v2.2 |
| 22:44:10 | madman | who wrote that? It was hillarious |
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| 22:50:51 | amiconn | For the stack problem: I think we need Linus to solve that. I don't really understand his linker script changes... |
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| 23:24:13 | dstar5 | heh havent been chating in a while ;) |
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| 23:24:45 | zeekoe | 20:51:21 <dstar5> time for lunch |
| 23:25:02 | zeekoe | 2.5 hours |
| 23:25:15 | dstar5 | better than mirc?yep |
| 23:25:19 | dstar5 | lol |
| 23:25:48 | zeekoe | what's better than mirc? |
| 23:27:52 | dstar5 | huh |
| 23:27:56 | dstar5 | ohh nothing |
| 23:28:06 | zeekoe | you don't have to tell me ;-) |
| 23:28:34 | zeekoe | <zeekoe> what's better than mirc? |
| 23:28:34 | zeekoe | <dstar5> ohh nothing |
| 23:28:50 | zeekoe | hm |
| 23:29:04 | zeekoe | nah, that's just the other way around |
| 23:29:09 | zeekoe | ok, we try again |
| 23:29:15 | zeekoe | what's worse than mirc? |
| 23:31:19 | dstar5 | nothing is |
| 23:31:22 | dstar5 | lol |
| 23:31:26 | zeekoe | that's better :-P |
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| 23:35:48 | dstar5 | me go get shower and go to lib |
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| 23:36:26 | amiconn | midk|quakeIII: Main thread stack size fixed :) |
| 23:40:37 | zeekoe | amiconn: nice! |
| 23:40:52 | zeekoe | so you could find out how the linker worked? |
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| 23:42:04 | amiconn | yup. I admit that I still don't understand why Linus changed the script in the first place... |
| 23:43:34 | Smooth | hiya |
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| 23:47:44 | midk | amiconn, great |
| 23:47:59 | amiconn | Hmmmmmmmmm. I got the recording from rombox to work, but I'm undecided if the solution is :)) or :(( |
| 23:48:17 | amiconn | Linus! Liiiiinnnnnuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssssssss! |
| 23:50:18 | Smooth | ive installed the latest build, no save option in general settings |
| 23:50:33 | amiconn | Smooth: ?? |
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| 23:53:09 | Smooth | yea |
| 23:53:17 | amiconn | hi Jörg! |
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| 23:53:27 | [IDC]Dragon | hi Jens et al |
| 23:53:40 | amiconn | Did you snoop the log? |
| 23:53:46 | [IDC]Dragon | just a quick one |
| 23:53:50 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 23:53:50 | amiconn | :) |
| 23:54:12 | [IDC]Dragon | Linus changed the lds to get gcc 3.4 working |
| 23:54:45 | amiconn | I wonder what the .lds has to do with gcc. I think this is a linker (ld) thing? |
| 23:55:04 | [IDC]Dragon | haven't looked closely, but he said that his "bug exploit" isn't working any more |
| 23:55:24 | amiconn | Furthermore, I tried compiling with the latest binutils/gcc (3.4.1) from cygwin before he changed the .lds, and it did work |
| 23:55:36 | [IDC]Dragon | isn't gcc all of that? (kind of a wrapper for the tools?) |
| 23:55:48 | [IDC]Dragon | then I don't know |
| 23:56:12 | amiconn | Hmm. Maybe we have to ask Linus for that (but my change fixes the stack issue) |
| 23:56:27 | [IDC]Dragon | what stack issue? |
| 23:57:03 | amiconn | He obviously didn't do what he wanted, so the main stack was no longer 8 KB, but (8 KB -sizeof(.iram)) |
| 23:57:24 | [IDC]Dragon | oh |
| 23:57:27 | amiconn | This lead to a stack overflow for some people when using the "create dir" function |
| 23:57:37 | amiconn | See my latest commit |
| 23:57:46 | [IDC]Dragon | btw, you've written a very nice ROMbox article! |
| 23:58:18 | amiconn | Hmm. I just found how I can get the recording to work when running from ROM. |
| 23:58:33 | [IDC]Dragon | oh!! |
| 23:58:40 | [IDC]Dragon | how? |
| 23:58:59 | amiconn | However, this is _very_ strange: The recording works (I did 25 tries) when I take out the mas_reset() from the init |
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