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| 03:50:51 | dstar5 | amiconn: how much memory are you saving with the new changes? |
| 03:52:51 | amiconn | dstar5: The new changes don't save any memory actually, they are intended to make using const easier in the future |
| 03:53:16 | dstar5 | ahh |
| 03:54:36 | dstar5 | i am now working on a new game, checkers |
| 03:55:38 | amiconn | Nice! |
| 03:56:40 | dstar5 | the logic to the game should be quite simple... i just don't know how to do the AI really yet |
| 03:57:18 | amiconn | Unfortunately I got stuck with tracking down a recording problem (not that related to rombox, but a general one that occurs on my box) |
| 03:58:06 | amiconn | ...and Linus isn't aroud (who could certainly help), so I'm doing other thing I wanted to complete for quite some time |
| 03:58:17 | amiconn | *things |
| 03:58:39 | dstar5 | what is it? |
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| 04:07:17 | amiconn | After some time of recording (observed anything between 3..90 minutes so far) the recording becomes completely garbled - no correct mp3 frame headers past that file position |
| 04:08:19 | amiconn | This happens independently whether rockbox is running from rom or ram, I use the new or old transfer routines, optimized or unoptimized ata, with or without mas reset... |
| 04:12:58 | amiconn | Anyway, I should really get some sleep *now* |
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| 08:36:49 | midk | hey Zagor, amiconn |
| 08:37:50 | amiconn | hi midk et al |
| 08:38:52 | Zagor | howdy |
| 08:39:00 | Zagor | nice const session :) |
| 08:39:10 | midk | :] |
| 08:39:32 | amiconn | Zagor: And this was only the first half (firmware), leaving apps to be done |
| 08:39:46 | Zagor | yup |
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| 08:52:51 | midk | hey bagder |
| 08:52:57 | Bagder | howdy |
| 08:54:47 | amiconn | hi Bagder |
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| 09:06:01 | dwihno | hola |
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| 09:12:59 | Bagder | two more games committed I see |
| 09:13:10 | Zagor | yup |
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| 09:14:25 | Zagor | it looks like showdown in the sco case |
| 09:14:43 | Zagor | ibm has filed a 100-page motion for partial summary judgement |
| 09:14:47 | * | midk_ spots c++ comments |
| 09:14:55 | Bagder | aha! |
| 09:15:01 | * | midk_ also realizes his nick is still midk_ |
| 09:15:04 | | Nick midk_ is now known as midk (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) |
| 09:15:11 | * | Bagder hands midk his code police deputy sticker |
| 09:15:27 | Bagder | (or however it spells) |
| 09:15:29 | midk | for ME?! |
| 09:15:37 | * | midk puts it on happily |
| 09:17:10 | Bagder | Zagor: indeed an interesting turn |
| 09:17:54 | * | midk rips off Zagor's code police sticker |
| 09:18:30 | dwihno | i want a bluetooth keyboard. are they really really expensive? |
| 09:18:42 | Zagor | no idea |
| 09:18:50 | * | Bagder doesn't care much for bluetooth |
| 09:19:30 | midk | dwihno, i recall an MS set of kbd and mouse for ~$110 |
| 09:19:41 | midk | there's a logitech set too.. probably about the same price |
| 09:19:43 | midk | or a bit less |
| 09:21:25 | dwihno | i want a foldable :) |
| 09:21:38 | midk | hm, that'll cost you :] |
| 09:21:42 | dwihno | i love bt! |
| 09:22:13 | Zagor | there are foldables for palm. and since several palms use bluetooth maybe the keyboard does too. |
| 09:22:14 | dwihno | :) |
| 09:22:34 | dwihno | ah. good idea |
| 09:23:06 | Zagor | they are very small though. not for everyday use. |
| 09:23:18 | dwihno | is consumer electronics and gadgets cheap in greece? |
| 09:23:37 | Zagor | are you going to greece? |
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| 09:24:01 | Bagder | I guess the VAT is lower than in sweden |
| 09:24:16 | dwihno | in a couple of hours |
| 09:24:58 | Zagor | watching the games? |
| 09:25:03 | dwihno | VAT sucks |
| 09:25:26 | Bagder | yes, it sucks your money ;-) |
| 09:26:16 | dwihno | we're considering it. we're gonna relax and get a nice tan :) |
| 09:36:20 | Zagor | hackers don't have tans :) |
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| 09:54:18 | lImbus | Hi Bagder, I read about your stolen baby. Would a not-flasheable unit help you ? |
| 09:54:43 | Bagder | you have a spare one? |
| 09:55:37 | lImbus | I bought one for a friend of mine who is not getting happy with that. He still looks for an iPod. |
| 09:56:30 | lImbus | He's now trying to get a guarantee replacement by pretending the charging of batteries does not work properly and hopes the replacement device is flasheable. |
| 09:57:34 | lImbus | (I told him flashed devices are better). Hes having problems with the fact he has FIRST to switch on his device, wait until bootstrap is done, THEN plug in the charger and so on. |
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| 10:09:14 | Zagor | bagderon, is that the next amd cpu? ;) |
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| 10:14:00 | midk | bedtime, nite |
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| 11:51:39 | Strath | i hear you guys don't know about #gmemu.... |
| 11:51:42 | Strath | :P |
| 11:52:26 | Strath | ok ok... sorry... :) |
| 11:52:54 | Strath | anyone comes in asking about gmini stuff.... direct them to #gmemu |
| 11:53:00 | Strath | k? :) |
| 11:53:27 | Strath | hellllow |
| 11:53:32 | gromit`` | :) |
| 11:53:50 | Strath | well... at least now it'll be found from google |
| 11:53:54 | Strath | :P |
| 11:54:06 | gromit`` | :) |
| 11:55:36 | Strath | gmini stuff, freenode.net IRC, channel #gmemu, Gmini firmware and open source development, tcc730 calmrisc mp3 players meta data dropping |
| 11:55:50 | Strath | <grin> |
| 11:55:59 | ze | heh |
| 11:56:50 | Strath | ok, you guys can go back to sleep now |
| 11:57:10 | Strath | :) |
| 11:59:13 | Strath | people have said that our website (http://www.donat.org/archos) with all kinds of Archos GMini stuff is hard to find |
| 11:59:59 | Strath | to bad there arn't more people on the project working on porting linux to the archos gmini |
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| 12:00:31 | Strath | ok, ok.... thanks guys |
| 12:00:33 | Strath | :) |
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| 12:41:46 | Zagor | hehe, nice google seeding |
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| 12:43:08 | * | Bagder updated NonArchos |
| 12:43:10 | Strath | thanks :) |
| 12:46:30 | Strath | 56 referers from NonArchos just this month so far |
| 12:47:01 | Zagor | so how far have you come? |
| 12:47:22 | Strath | though 159 from http://forums.dpreview.com |
| 12:47:57 | Strath | well..... we have 3 "active" developers |
| 12:49:25 | Strath | and we're uh, working on, uh, gmini, uh, stuff, ya...... and we uh figured a lot of stuff out, and stuff, and uh |
| 12:49:37 | Strath | :) |
| 12:49:39 | Zagor | ran any code on the target yet? |
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| 12:50:02 | Strath | gromit is working on a packer |
| 12:50:39 | Strath | there is still a signature chunk in the aos RIFF format which we havn't decoded |
| 12:50:47 | Zagor | ok |
| 12:51:44 | Strath | but we have got the emu displaying the firmware's debug strings as it "boots" |
| 12:52:04 | Zagor | are you aiming to run linux or something homegrown (as rockbox)? |
| 12:52:04 | Strath | and then "upgrades" |
| 12:54:27 | Strath | we'll have to start home grown... becase the only port of gcc to CalmRISC (ie TCC730) is held at high priced and only open to paying customers |
| 12:54:44 | Strath | s/ie/aka |
| 12:55:09 | Zagor | GNU gcc? does FSF know? |
| 12:55:10 | Strath | (ala ecos) |
| 12:55:44 | Strath | i don't think it's a violation, because the code is released to those it's being distributed to |
| 12:56:03 | Bagder | and why don't they reditribute it? |
| 12:56:21 | Strath | cause they had to pay an arm&lag for it? |
| 12:56:28 | Strath | s/lag/leg |
| 12:56:36 | Bagder | it doesn't make sense |
| 12:56:40 | Bagder | to me |
| 12:56:41 | Strath | i know.... |
| 12:57:01 | Strath | let me point you to the site.... see if you can figure it out |
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| 12:57:31 | Zagor | it could be like the sveasoft debacle: their support contract expires if they redistribute the software... |
| 12:57:47 | | Nick de is now known as uski (~uski@gandalf.digital-network.org) |
| 12:59:14 | Zagor | very nasty practice imho, but apparently fsf has greenlighted it |
| 12:59:40 | Bagder | nasty is the word |
| 12:59:42 | Strath | sucks for us |
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| 13:00:03 | Strath | grr... i lost track of the site |
| 13:00:05 | Zagor | sucks for everyone except he who ripped off gcc and now sells it |
| 13:00:11 | Strath | have to check my logs |
| 13:00:38 | Strath | it was done in coopperation with redhat and cygnus |
| 13:02:01 | Zagor | yeah well they didn't write gcc either... |
| 13:02:55 | Strath | GNUPro is Red Hat's commercial software development suite of tools |
| 13:03:09 | Strath | http://www.interaccess.org/aid/links.html |
| 13:06:23 | Zagor | but is the calmrisc port done by redhat? |
| 13:06:40 | Strath | http://www.sindominio.net/biblioweb/telematica/open-sources-html/node75.html |
| 13:07:06 | Strath | there is a partnership referenced in a redhat press release |
| 13:07:16 | Strath | (with samsung) |
| 13:08:41 | Zagor | yup: http://www.europe.redhat.com/news/article/100.html |
| 13:09:35 | Zagor | "Samsung Chooses Red Hat to Create Open Source Development Tools for Next-Generation Low Power Chip" ya right. http://www.redhat.com/about/presscenter/2000/press_samsung.html |
| 13:09:43 | | Nick uski is now known as uski`lunch (~uski@gandalf.digital-network.org) |
| 13:10:24 | Zagor | "Under the GPL license, Samsung will be able to provide the GNUpro development tools to CalmRISC CPU customers free of charge" |
| 13:10:44 | Zagor | so did they just change their mind or what? |
| 13:10:44 | Strath | HA, double HA HA |
| 13:11:06 | Strath | i've spent many many hours searching |
| 13:11:14 | Strath | all dead ends |
| 13:11:25 | Strath | or running in circles |
| 13:11:41 | Zagor | tried contacting redhat? preferrably a techie. |
| 13:12:27 | Strath | i don't have a in |
| 13:12:58 | Strath | and would rather not do a cold contact |
| 13:14:27 | Strath | it looks like, maybe, these are the guys that hold the original copywrite on g++ |
| 13:14:43 | Zagor | so how much is gnupro? maybe we should buy it and submit it for inclusion in gcc... |
| 13:15:02 | Zagor | richard stallman wrote gcc. he isn't easily persuaded... |
| 13:15:11 | Strath | gcc, yes |
| 13:15:20 | Strath | g++, no so sure |
| 13:15:44 | Bagder | g++ is part of the gcc suite, surely it all is (c) by FSF? |
| 13:15:59 | Strath | Second, GNU C++ was falling behind. I wrote GNU C++ in the fall of 1987, making it the first native-code C++ compiler in the world. C++ was a much more complex language than C, and it was still evolving when we started Cygnus. In 1990, several new, even more complex features became ``standard,'' and with all the distractions of Cygnus, I had no time to keep GNU C++ current |
| 13:16:10 | Strath | (sorry for the large paste) |
| 13:16:55 | Zagor | well g++ isn't where the calmrisc support is anyway so it doesn't really matter |
| 13:17:23 | Strath | ok... just trying to sort this mess out |
| 13:17:33 | Zagor | this must have been dealt with before, but i can't find much about it on google |
| 13:17:46 | Strath | noticed that huh? |
| 13:18:57 | Zagor | lets go to #gnu and ask |
| 13:19:07 | Strath | hrm... 70 matches for: gnupro gpl violation |
| 13:19:21 | Strath | (no '"'s) |
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| 13:27:00 | Strath | i asked |
| 13:27:07 | Strath | channel seems dead though |
| 13:27:16 | Strath | (and i'm nervous) |
| 13:27:26 | Zagor | they are not very fast. stay in it, you may get a response after a while |
| 13:27:47 | Strath | ok, i see you and gromit in there |
| 13:28:13 | Strath | at least i'm not alone ;\ |
| 13:28:16 | gromit`` | :) |
| 13:29:37 | Strath | hrm... 30 matches for: gnupro "gpl violation" |
| 13:32:15 | Zagor | i've been trying to find a price quote for the gnupro toolkit, with little success. the only hit is a review from 2000 citing $79 for "cygnus gnupro toolkit" |
| 13:32:34 | Zagor | i'd pay $79 to smite redhat ;) |
| 13:32:48 | Strath | i can't afford that :( |
| 13:33:00 | Strath | well/.... |
| 13:33:19 | Strath | we could pass the "hat" ;) |
| 13:35:48 | | Nick uski`lunch is now known as uski (~uski@gandalf.digital-network.org) |
| 13:37:03 | Strath | Zagor |
| 13:37:05 | Strath | GNUPro Toolkit and Support are available for Linux hosts at $9995/year for small development teams and annual subscriptions are available starting at $1999/seat, 10 seat minimum. Additional host platforms (non-Linux) are available at $12,500 for small teams and $2500/seat for larger groups. |
| 13:37:28 | Zagor | the #gcc channel was a bit more awake. basically they say it's not proprietary since they ship source to their customers. and their customers are allowed to redistribute it freely but don't... |
| 13:37:35 | Zagor | yeah but i don't want the support |
| 13:37:54 | uski | then we need to find one of their customers ;) |
| 13:37:56 | Strath | thats kinda what i figured |
| 13:38:00 | Strath | intel |
| 13:38:03 | Zagor | uski: exactly |
| 13:38:31 | Strath | but they only release the stuff for thier hardware |
| 13:38:37 | uski | one that won't bother giving out the source - they may be afraid of getting bad relations with gnupro's authors because they gave the source to someone else |
| 13:38:40 | Strath | link following shortly |
| 13:47:13 | Strath | http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/redhat-gnupro/dev_tools/src.tar.htm |
| 13:47:31 | gromit`` | wha |
| 13:47:31 | Strath | Zagor: you got a fat pipe? |
| 13:47:43 | Zagor | Strath: fat enough :) |
| 13:49:09 | gromit`` | links seem dead |
| 13:49:15 | uski | btw why are you that interested in gnupro ? (what's interezsting in gnupro ?) |
| 13:49:25 | Strath | http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/redhat-gnupro/dev_tools/src.tar.gz |
| 13:49:30 | Strath | live link |
| 13:49:32 | Zagor | uski: cpu ports not available in the fsf version |
| 13:49:51 | Strath | 20 megs smaller |
| 13:50:01 | gromit`` | 'k |
| 13:50:04 | gromit`` | thx |
| 13:50:22 | gromit`` | 42.1 Mo |
| 13:50:23 | gromit`` | !! |
| 13:50:27 | Strath | (suspece, smaller == stuff ripped out) |
| 13:51:33 | Strath | 46% [================> ] 20,557,804 155.22K/s ETA 02:28 |
| 13:51:55 | Strath | whatcha think grommy? |
| 13:52:35 | Strath | (no, i'm still on dial-up) |
| 13:52:42 | Strath | ssh to co-lo |
| 13:52:50 | gromit`` | a friend of mine made a patch to wget |
| 13:53:03 | gromit`` | s/[/8 |
| 13:53:11 | gromit`` | s/>/D |
| 13:53:18 | gromit`` | s/]/O |
| 13:53:29 | Strath | lol |
| 13:53:59 | Strath | rotflmao |
| 13:54:11 | uski | lol |
| 13:54:25 | uski | "ETA 02:28" |
| 13:55:00 | Strath | thanks... i was laughing so much i forgot the dl finished |
| 13:55:32 | gromit`` | 28 ! |
| 13:55:52 | Strath | 28? |
| 13:56:15 | Strath | what, not teh 155.22K/s |
| 13:56:19 | gromit`` | [13:53] <uski> "ETA 02:28" |
| 13:56:20 | gromit`` | ?? |
| 13:57:23 | uski | <Strath> 46% [================> ] 20,557,804 155.22K/s ETA 02:28 |
| 13:57:31 | uski | [...] |
| 13:57:32 | uski | <gromit``> s/[/8 |
| 13:57:32 | uski | <gromit``> s/>/D |
| 13:57:32 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK uski |
| 13:57:32 | uski | <gromit``> s/]/O |
| 13:58:20 | uski | some friends of mine have a 640kbytes/sec downlink for 30 euros / month |
| 13:58:37 | gromit`` | hmmm :) |
| 13:58:41 | Strath | fugers |
| 13:58:57 | gromit`` | in which country ? |
| 13:59:08 | Strath | i have 2.7k/s for 21 USD |
| 13:59:15 | uski | gromit``, France |
| 13:59:22 | gromit`` | free . |
| 13:59:23 | gromit`` | ? |
| 13:59:34 | uski | yea |
| 13:59:38 | gromit`` | i'm in france too :) |
| 13:59:41 | uski | en degroupé ;) |
| 13:59:47 | gromit`` | grr |
| 13:59:50 | uski | 5mbits/sec quand on matte pas la télé |
| 13:59:52 | Zagor | i have ~850kb/s for ~50 euro/month |
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| 14:00:01 | uski | Zagor, yea, but you are a cheater ;P |
| 14:00:05 | Zagor | haha |
| 14:00:44 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 14:00:44 | * | uski saw Zagor signing some secret contract with his ISP |
| 14:00:49 | Strath | sheesh.. the output from `tar -zxvf src.tar.gz` is causing my irc to lag |
| 14:00:50 | * | Bagder cheats too then ;-) |
| 14:01:01 | uski | Strath, remove the "f" |
| 14:01:10 | uski | (maybe f stands for "fuck irc" ?) |
| 14:01:14 | gromit`` | :) |
| 14:01:38 | uski | Bagder, yea, but your isp came to your house and took your archos recorder |
| 14:01:48 | Strath | too late, i just hope it's done soon |
| 14:01:59 | Bagder | true |
| 14:02:03 | Strath | f is 'file' |
| 14:02:04 | Bagder | :-) |
| 14:02:08 | uski | Strath, ;) |
| 14:02:17 | uski | if i remember it removes the output |
| 14:02:32 | Strath | fug, it's still going... |
| 14:02:32 | Bagder | no its v |
| 14:02:35 | Bagder | for verbose |
| 14:02:37 | uski | ah yea |
| 14:02:39 | uski | sorry |
| 14:02:56 | Strath | could a 44 meg tgz expand to over a gig? |
| 14:03:10 | Strath | oy, time for a smoke |
| 14:03:36 | Strath | donat@server0:~/src/gnupro$ du -s . |
| 14:03:36 | Strath | 246348 . |
| 14:04:03 | Strath | ok, not bad, and i didn't blow my quota |
| 14:04:27 | Strath | though i did kick up the load average for a bit |
| 14:04:28 | uski | Strath, make a 10gb file full of 0x00s, and then make a tar.gz |
| 14:04:44 | Strath | yes yes... i know... |
| 14:05:04 | Strath | posible, but under normal usage, unlikly |
| 14:05:55 | Strath | unless you style guidlines DEMAND a *LOT* of white space ;) |
| 14:06:21 | uski | yea |
| 14:06:35 | Bagder | or pad all source lines with whitespace to column 80 ;-) |
| 14:06:43 | uski | haha |
| 14:07:22 | uski | also expand all strings to { 0x60, 0x45, 0xAA, .. |
| 14:07:44 | uski | the usage() func will then quickly get fat |
| 14:12:02 | Zagor | http://bjorn.haxx.se/gnupro/src/ for anyone interested |
| 14:12:20 | Zagor | really old though |
| 14:12:25 | Strath | your mirror? |
| 14:13:06 | Zagor | last changelog entry in gcc/ is 2001-04-11 |
| 14:15:04 | Strath | don't supose you can find eny referance to samsung or comlrisc? |
| 14:15:26 | Zagor | greping |
| 14:15:56 | Bagder | isn't that newer than 2000/2001 ? |
| 14:15:57 | Strath | doh |
| 14:16:01 | Strath | donat@server0:~/src/gnupro$ grep samsung */*/*/* |
| 14:16:01 | Strath | -bash: /bin/grep: Argument list too long |
| 14:16:06 | Zagor | grep -r |
| 14:16:16 | Strath | grep has a -r |
| 14:16:19 | Strath | damnit |
| 14:16:22 | Strath | ;) |
| 14:16:26 | Zagor | hehe |
| 14:16:30 | Bagder | "find . -name -type f | xargs grep" ;-) |
| 14:16:40 | Zagor | Bagder: the press release was from 2001 i think, so yeah |
| 14:16:43 | Bagder | s/-name// |
| 14:17:16 | Zagor | actually, sept 2000 |
| 14:17:25 | uski | or use -name \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* |
| 14:17:36 | uski | (wasn't we trying to find ways of wasting away bytes ? ;)) |
| 14:18:38 | Strath | well... it did onlt expand to 500% |
| 14:18:44 | Strath | er |
| 14:18:47 | Strath | 600% |
| 14:19:09 | Zagor | text is easily compressed |
| 14:19:38 | Strath | yes, but still not over a gig in 44 megs |
| 14:19:48 | uski | not sure |
| 14:19:51 | Strath | of "normal" source code |
| 14:19:57 | uski | ah yea |
| 14:20:16 | uski | du −−max-depth=1 |
| 14:20:24 | uski | it's very cool for finding huge directories ;) |
| 14:21:47 | Strath | oh, btw... |
| 14:21:56 | Strath | i got that link from http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/redhat-gnupro/dev_tools/ |
| 14:22:32 | Strath | last update may 2002 |
| 14:25:08 | Strath | 122 results for: gnupro src.tar |
| 14:25:19 | Strath | er... 112 |
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| 14:35:58 | zeekoe | another way to search: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Index+of%22+gnupro+tar |
| 14:36:03 | zeekoe | dunno if it helps |
| 14:36:27 | Strath | going offline to call redhat |
| 14:36:31 | Strath | bbiab |
| 14:36:36 | uski | Strath, maybe it's 112 webpages where some guy asks where to find this "god damn gnupro tar file" |
| 14:36:45 | uski | ;) |
| 14:37:22 | Strath | theres a lot of cygnus == bad cause of old cygwin.dll fight |
| 14:37:34 | Strath | ok, bbiab |
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| 14:40:55 | Strath | "fuck off" *click* |
| 14:41:00 | Zagor | !? |
| 14:41:09 | Strath | lol... no |
| 14:41:25 | Strath | offices closed until 9am est |
| 14:41:49 | Strath | damn non 24hour hotlines |
| 14:41:57 | Zagor | ah |
| 14:42:33 | * | Zagor votes for doing away with time zones |
| 14:44:07 | Strath | oops |
| 14:44:09 | Strath | http://www.redhat.com/software/gnupro/technical/toolchainmatrix.html |
| 14:44:16 | Strath | pdf is 404 |
| 14:44:24 | Zagor | yeah, i noticed too |
| 14:49:16 | Strath | hrm.... how did my typed url end up being 5180 characters |
| 14:49:45 | Strath | try this link :) |
| 14:49:47 | Strath | http://samsungelectronics.com/support/downloads/index.html |
| 14:50:13 | Strath | maybe it's mozilla, maybe its samsung |
| 14:52:15 | Strath | nope... it's a 404 type redirect on samsung |
| 14:52:22 | Strath | killed IE |
| 14:53:42 | Strath | lol |
| 14:54:08 | Strath | "http://samsungelectronics.com/support/" redirected to "http://www.sec.co.kr/index.jspsupport" |
| 14:54:46 | Strath | which barf out a MS IIS 404 |
| 14:55:27 | Zagor | it's a broken server config |
| 14:55:35 | Zagor | Location: krsupport/downloads/index.html |
| 14:57:35 | Strath | which is a very nice 404 referencing From RFC 2068 Hypertext Transfer Protocol −− HTTP/1.1 |
| 14:58:20 | Bagder | no |
| 14:58:36 | Bagder | rfc2068 says location uses absoluteurl |
| 14:58:56 | Bagder | but no one has ever cared about that :-) |
| 14:58:58 | Strath | hey, i'm just quoting |
| 14:59:15 | Zagor | yeah the error page was quite impressive :) |
| 14:59:24 | Strath | From RFC 2068 Hypertext Transfer Protocol −− HTTP/1.1: |
| 14:59:24 | Strath | 10.4.5 404 Not Found |
| 14:59:24 | Strath | The server has not found anything matching the Request-URI. No indication is given of whether the condition is temporary or permanent. |
| 14:59:41 | Strath | (more after that....) |
| 14:59:45 | Zagor | not many 404 pages cite the full rfc text |
| 14:59:51 | Strath | lol |
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| 15:00:05 | Bagder | Strath: fyi 2616 has obsoleted 2068 |
| 15:00:19 | zeekoe | what page is it? |
| 15:00:22 | * | Bagder has read that one once before |
| 15:00:26 | zeekoe | opera says "Your browser sent a message this server could not understand." |
| 15:00:29 | Strath | i told you, i'm just quoting |
| 15:00:45 | Strath | ya, thats the 5180 character url |
| 15:00:46 | zeekoe | after connecting to five different things in 5 seconds |
| 15:01:00 | zeekoe | lol |
| 15:01:05 | Strath | which crashes IE |
| 15:01:08 | zeekoe | i see now |
| 15:01:40 | Strath | moz gives the "your browser..." message |
| 15:02:15 | zeekoe | who uses ie seriousy, anyway ;-) |
| 15:02:53 | Strath | of, bagder, you email someone at www.sec.co.kr and tell em thier 404 is outdated |
| 15:03:04 | Strath | s/of/ok |
| 15:03:59 | Bagder | yeah, I bet they would care veeeeeery much |
| 15:04:05 | Strath | and those that do use IE only see the local IE not found page rather than the servers 404 |
| 15:04:18 | Bagder | you can disable that horrible beast |
| 15:04:29 | Strath | i don't use IE |
| 15:04:40 | Zagor | actually i'm not so sure about that. the ie page is only shown if the server page is less than 500 bytes or something. |
| 15:04:43 | Strath | i just try to find new ways to kill it ;) |
| 15:05:15 | zeekoe | :) |
| 15:05:18 | Strath | hadn't tried recursive redirect yet |
| 15:05:24 | zeekoe | lame excuse... |
| 15:06:41 | Strath | some people golf, some people ski, I repeatedly kill IE |
| 15:06:52 | zeekoe | IE has also this nice feature, "User Friendly Error Messages", so people will never ever see what's truly happening when an error 500 occurs |
| 15:07:33 | zeekoe | tell me what's user friendly about it |
| 15:07:55 | Strath | hey, i learned somthin |
| 15:07:58 | Strath | The 410 (Gone) status code SHOULD be used if the server knows, through some internally configurable mechanism, that an old resource is permanently unavailable and has no forwarding address. |
| 15:08:42 | Zagor | yeah there's plenty of fun stuff in rfcs that nobody ever implements |
| 15:08:45 | Strath | assuming that hasn't been obsoleted by 2616 |
| 15:09:02 | Bagder | 2616 adds even more obscure ones, iirc |
| 15:09:04 | Strath | ?bagder? :) |
| 15:09:26 | Strath | what is 411 |
| 15:09:30 | Strath | ;)\ |
| 15:09:42 | Bagder | Length Required |
| 15:10:11 | Strath | k, *chuckle* |
| 15:10:27 | Bagder | => http://curl.haxx.se/ |
| 15:14:30 | Strath | wtf |
| 15:17:26 | Strath | hrm... wonder why we didn't get a 414 |
| 15:18:18 | Strath | it's even in RFC 2068 |
| 15:18:38 | Bagder | probably because 5K is not a too long url |
| 15:19:10 | Strath | the server just barfs |
| 15:19:25 | Strath | could not understand |
| 15:20:24 | Strath | <zeekoe> opera says "Your browser sent a message this server could not understand." |
| 15:20:53 | Strath | ok... grrr... enough of a tangent |
| 15:21:19 | Strath | damn you dagber |
| 15:21:19 | zeekoe | yeah ok, it's the server that says it |
| 15:21:38 | Strath | yup |
| 15:22:12 | Strath | just the plaintext string quoted above |
| 15:22:16 | Strath | grrr... |
| 15:22:41 | Strath | i'm not listening,,,,, la la.. lalalalala |
| 15:23:15 | zeekoe | lynx complains |
| 15:23:23 | Strath | heh |
| 15:23:25 | zeekoe | location url is not absolute |
| 15:23:28 | zeekoe | but it continues |
| 15:23:34 | Strath | hrm |
| 15:23:41 | Strath | AH |
| 15:23:45 | Strath | stop it |
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| 15:24:01 | zeekoe | and then it says HTTP/1.1 400 bad request |
| 15:24:04 | zeekoe | and the same plain text |
| 15:24:11 | zeekoe | btw, what is error 414? |
| 15:24:22 | Strath | request URI too long |
| 15:24:41 | zeekoe | hmm okay... |
| 15:25:58 | Strath | ok... damnit, how did tipping my garbage can on the *floor* get pop on my *desk* |
| 15:27:31 | Strath | and only the desk, nothin on the desk got hit |
| 15:27:52 | Strath | well, yes, the dust... |
| 15:28:55 | zeekoe | hmm... if i do www.google.com/nnnnnnnn(...)nnn (really long until not longer is possible for lynx), it says 404 |
| 15:29:08 | zeekoe | not sure if lynx is secured against uri too long |
| 15:29:23 | Strath | ok, excludinging the dust, *nothing* on the... ok, th laminant.... ok, besides the dust *AND* the laminant, nothing on the des........ |
| 15:30:11 | zeekoe | yeah yeah go on talking to yourself about stuff nobody cares about ;-) |
| 15:30:15 | Strath | (props ot monty python) |
| 15:30:20 | zeekoe | anyway, i'm gone |
| 15:30:24 | zeekoe | back2home |
| 15:30:38 | Strath | hasn't anyone seen life of brian |
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| 15:30:51 | Zagor | of course |
| 15:30:52 | Strath | sheesh |
| 15:31:06 | Zagor | it's just too obvious to comment on :) |
| 15:31:19 | Strath | the nice lil "what have the romans ever done for us" bit |
| 15:32:49 | Strath | k :) |
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| 17:13:52 | Strath | why to heck do i keep getting dlined!?! |
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| 17:14:06 | Strath | i'm starting to run out of servers |
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| 17:25:46 | Zagor | Strath: ask on #freenode |
| 17:26:10 | Strath | the faq says to contact a staff member |
| 17:26:31 | Strath | i'm trying, but they don't respond (/msg) |
| 17:26:45 | Strath | and i havn't been +v'ed yet |
| 17:27:25 | uski | try to contact lilo |
| 17:27:53 | uski | if you do it in the correct way he should be able to help you |
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| 17:29:09 | Strath | "-> *lilo* hello, i'm having a problem and the FAQ says this is how to contact staff :) could you spare a few minutes to help me understand something? (policy related)" |
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| 17:29:44 | Bagder | time to run home! |
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| 17:30:44 | jim_h | Hi - I'm trying to resurrect my dearly departed JBR20 - is this the right place to ask for some help? |
| 17:30:58 | Strath | maybe ;) |
| 17:31:43 | jim_h | Well, I'm experiencing ATA Error -41 - any insights what that might mean? |
| 17:31:56 | Zagor | which version? |
| 17:32:20 | jim_h | JBR version 1 - running flashed rom |
| 17:32:40 | Zagor | yes but which rockbox version |
| 17:33:30 | jim_h | CVS-040630 from flash |
| 17:34:21 | Zagor | ok. -41 is a failed wait_for_rdy() in the ata driver. does the disk work in usb mode? |
| 17:35:19 | jim_h | no - if i connect the USB cable and then power up, I don't make it to the USB graphic screen |
| 17:35:37 | Strath | dead HDD? |
| 17:35:41 | Zagor | sounds like a problem with your disk then, unfortunately |
| 17:35:56 | Strath | just swap in a new one |
| 17:36:14 | jim_h | I thought so too, but I swapped out the drive from my laptop and put it in the JBR and got the same error |
| 17:36:34 | Strath | btw, no staff that i've contacted respond to me |
| 17:36:39 | Strath | uski? |
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| 17:59:33 | Strath | <UdontKnow> you are dlined on 6 servers |
| 17:59:47 | dstar5 | ? |
| 17:59:53 | dstar5 | dlined? |
| 17:59:59 | dstar5 | don't know about thaT |
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| 18:00:16 | dstar5 | i know of klines, and heard of a gline |
| 18:00:54 | dstar5 | but it seems that weird little nick, Udonknow sent me a dcc for some reason, called xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx |
| 18:01:03 | dstar5 | really weird |
| 18:01:11 | dstar5 | i should report it to freenode |
| 18:01:44 | dstar5 | mailto:udontknow@udontknow.staff.freenode |
| 18:01:49 | dstar5 | he is freenode staff |
| 18:01:56 | dstar5 | weird |
| 18:06:51 | Strath | he was helpful in me understanding *why* |
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| 18:07:23 | dstar5 | ? |
| 18:07:29 | dstar5 | how? |
| 18:07:55 | Strath | he's freenode staff |
| 18:08:12 | dstar5 | i bet i have a log of wheni got that dcc |
| 18:10:18 | Strath | ok... the reason i'm being dlined.... |
| 18:11:00 | Strath | is cause i'm on dial-up |
| 18:11:22 | dstar5 | and? |
| 18:11:53 | Strath | and another customer of my ISP, has been running bots that connect to the forbidden channels |
| 18:14:06 | dstar5 | ohh |
| 18:14:29 | Strath | leave ya hanging enough? :) |
| 18:14:50 | dstar5 | i am stil looking in my logs for that dcc... |
| 18:15:18 | Strath | maybe bot hunting? |
| 18:16:01 | dstar5 | hummm |
| 18:16:09 | dstar5 | i don't know |
| 18:16:58 | dstar5 | me go play WCII see you later |
| 18:17:07 | Strath | yup |
| 18:25:38 | Zagor | i'm off too |
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| 20:09:18 | NHeal | orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
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| 20:13:32 | dstar5 | hi levin |
| 20:14:07 | zeekoe | aargh |
| 20:14:13 | zeekoe | dont say hi |
| 20:14:19 | zeekoe | it makes my xchat flash |
| 20:14:28 | dstar5 | hehe why do you set it to turn blue when someone says hi? |
| 20:14:46 | zeekoe | i guess some freenode server just droped out.. lol |
| 20:15:11 | zeekoe | because i know when someone says hi |
| 20:15:29 | zeekoe | some people say hi when they need help and have to wait for minutes and minutes |
| 20:15:30 | zeekoe | that's why |
| 20:15:37 | dstar5 | ohh |
| 20:15:40 | dstar5 | yes |
| 20:31:17 | lImbus | hi |
| 20:31:26 | lImbus | hehe @zeekoe |
| 20:32:00 | zeekoe | @zeekoe? who's that? |
| 20:33:03 | midk | he's laughing "@" zeekoe |
| 20:33:05 | midk | @ = AT |
| 20:33:33 | midk | zeekers these days.. |
| 20:35:15 | zeekoe | what is a zeeker anyway |
| 20:35:31 | midk | you |
| 20:35:37 | zeekoe | no |
| 20:35:50 | midk | yes |
| 20:36:15 | zeekoe | no |
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| 20:37:26 | zeekoe|tea | have.. to... drink..... teea... |
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| 20:56:36 | dstar5 | hey Bagder |
| 20:56:42 | dstar5 | sorry for your burglary |
| 20:56:50 | dstar5 | was there anything else taken? |
| 20:56:53 | Bagder | its a bit of a pain |
| 20:57:07 | Bagder | my wallet, my gsm phone, my dect phone, my digital camera |
| 20:57:20 | dstar5 | ouch |
| 20:57:28 | Bagder | money down the drain |
| 20:57:36 | dstar5 | :( |
| 20:57:52 | dstar5 | time for lunch see you Bagder and zeekoe|tea |
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| 20:58:17 | uski | Bagder, wow, worse than me I think. will your insurance pay you the full amount of the damages ? |
| 20:58:23 | uski | mine won't..... |
| 20:58:34 | Bagder | no, not full |
| 20:58:53 | uski | :\\ |
| 20:59:07 | uski | damn insurances. they are all OK to take money, but when it's time to give some money back... |
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| 21:36:13 | dstar5 | amiconn: do you have a rombox patch, i would like to make a personal build with it |
| 21:37:30 | amiconn | dstar5: There is no patch to the main source, just follow the special build instructions described at http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/RomBox#Build_your_own |
| 21:37:47 | dstar5 | thanks |
| 21:37:59 | dstar5 | btw your white backlight mod looks good :) |
| 21:38:12 | dstar5 | look real brgith though |
| 21:38:37 | amiconn | Remember that the recording is still flakey with rombox |
| 21:38:50 | dstar5 | yes |
| 21:38:55 | | Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a226.wi.tds.net) |
| 21:38:59 | dstar5 | i do not recorde but every few days |
| 21:39:04 | dstar5 | and theni just rolo |
| 21:39:50 | amiconn | dstar5: You _can_ try to leave out the mas_reset in the recording init, but I'm not sure if this may cause a part of the other problem I described yesterday |
| 21:40:09 | dstar5 | ok, i will try that |
| 21:41:19 | amiconn | Just comment out line 2094 in firmware/mpeg.c [ mas_reset(); ] |
| 21:42:00 | dstar5 | ok |
| 21:45:53 | | Join EoS [0] (~eos@pD9E28B94.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:46:06 | EoS | hello everyone |
| 21:46:11 | uski | hi |
| 21:46:54 | EoS | say, do u guys know a similar project to rockbox, but only for the gmini 120? |
| 21:47:52 | Bagder | try http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos |
| 21:47:57 | dstar5 | EoS: there was someone working on it |
| 21:48:04 | EoS | cause im fed up with the archos firmware |
| 21:48:32 | dstar5 | EoS: i understand that :) |
| 21:48:43 | EoS | anyone else here who has a gmini120? |
| 21:48:51 | EoS | i hate that thing |
| 21:49:15 | EoS | its my third one, the other 2 broke within month |
| 21:49:38 | EoS | and even when it works, its so slow and sluggish |
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| 21:51:40 | | Nick Lee_ is now known as dstar5 (Lee@ACC27F64.ipt.aol.com) |
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| 21:53:32 | uski | http://linav.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:53:33 | uski | oooo |
| 21:53:36 | uski | interesting |
| 21:53:44 | oxygen77 | hehe |
| 21:55:28 | oxygen77 | uski, you have an av? |
| 21:56:31 | uski | no but i need to buy something |
| 21:56:39 | uski | as i can't repair my archos recorder :((( |
| 21:57:18 | uski | oooo you're one of the developper of linav |
| 21:57:21 | uski | i didn't notice |
| 21:57:35 | uski | et en plus t'es français, ca roxxe ! ;) |
| 21:58:03 | oxygen77 | oui :)) |
| 21:59:41 | dstar5 | i know a few words of french |
| 21:59:48 | dstar5 | oui yes |
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| 22:00:18 | uski | oxygen77, do you tyhink you will end up with a fully usuable firmware ? i.e. with all the features archos's firmware has ? |
| 22:00:41 | oxygen77 | don't really know |
| 22:00:57 | oxygen77 | getting a bit pessimist today |
| 22:00:57 | dstar5 | i don't think msny people have gminis |
| 22:01:10 | uski | oxygen77, why ? |
| 22:01:13 | dstar5 | that is what is holding it back is lack of people i think |
| 22:01:22 | oxygen77 | just bad mood I guess |
| 22:01:53 | oxygen77 | dstar5, you can find some on #gmemu |
| 22:03:09 | oxygen77 | I'm porting the kernel, and it's working nice, but I'm not sure, we are heading the right way with our gui |
| 22:04:27 | uski | oxygen77, i mean, do you think you will be able to support all the hardware ? like the video in, and so on |
| 22:04:41 | uski | also maybe the video decoding is done using some obscure DSP - do you have enough infos to use it ? |
| 22:05:31 | oxygen77 | well, that's another pb, dogger was doing almost all the job on hardware hacking, but he hasn't work on the project for months |
| 22:06:05 | oxygen77 | but we have good support for sound |
| 22:06:24 | oxygen77 | also for OSD |
| 22:07:30 | oxygen77 | don't know if you saw it, but we have released a package that contains the kenrel, the gui (with browser, text viewer and a game) and a mp3 player |
| 22:08:10 | oxygen77 | oups, j'ai oublié que tu n'en avais pas :( |
| 22:08:15 | uski | ;) |
| 22:08:21 | oxygen77 | dsl |
| 22:08:36 | uski | c chiant, je sais pas quoi acheter pour remplacer mon pauvre recorder |
| 22:09:00 | EoS | lol that av linux is so cool :) |
| 22:10:24 | oxygen77 | yup, |
| 22:10:25 | oxygen77 | thx |
| 22:13:10 | EoS | is there linux for pdas? like ocket pc linux? |
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| 22:13:17 | Bagder | yes |
| 22:13:30 | Bagder | there's a linux for ipaq for example |
| 22:13:51 | oxygen77 | yup |
| 22:13:53 | oxygen77 | there is |
| 22:13:55 | EoS | cool |
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| 22:15:42 | oxygen77 | there is also pda that were designed for linux |
| 22:16:06 | Bagder | several in fact |
| 22:16:33 | oxygen77 | yup :) |
| 22:17:06 | EoS | true, the zaurus |
| 22:19:31 | EoS | ok gotta go, cya guys! |
| 22:19:57 | oxygen77 | cu |
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| 22:33:14 | Bagder | evening LinusN |
| 22:33:22 | amiconn | hi LinusN |
| 22:33:23 | midk | hey linus |
| 22:33:24 | LinusN | hola |
| 22:34:14 | uski | the zaurus is not sold in france |
| 22:34:14 | uski | and i don't think it is in western europe |
| 22:34:30 | dstar5 | hey lImbus |
| 22:34:33 | dstar5 | i mean LinusN |
| 22:34:34 | dstar5 | lol |
| 22:35:25 | amiconn | dstar5: mount /dev/brain /keyboard/tab ;) |
| 22:35:50 | dstar5 | good one :) |
| 22:35:58 | uski | hi LinusN |
| 22:36:38 | amiconn | LinusN: Read about the strange recording phenomenon? |
| 22:38:51 | LinusN | amiconn: brief me |
| 22:39:32 | amiconn | For testing whether leaving out the mas_reset() breaks something, I did a number of recording tests |
| 22:41:10 | amiconn | Regardless whether running from rom or ram, using optimized or plain C ata, using optimized or old recording transfer routines, with or without issuing mas_reset() - |
| 22:41:39 | amiconn | _all_ recordings get bad at some point in time (observed from 3..90 minutes) |
| 22:42:12 | dstar5 | what about archos firmware? |
| 22:42:31 | amiconn | dstar5: Hmm, good point. Maybe I should try that |
| 22:43:12 | LinusN | i have suspected the file system code for a long time... |
| 22:43:55 | amiconn | LinusN: After that point in time, no proper mpeg headers get recorded. There is still something that looks like mpeg headers, but all check tools complain about mpeg version changes or such |
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| 22:44:38 | LinusN | audio levels? |
| 22:44:51 | amiconn | ?? |
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| 22:45:18 | LinusN | people have reported that hot audio levels cause corrupt recordings |
| 22:46:20 | amiconn | Ah, yes. I adjusted the recording level so that there was no clipping; in one try I even lowered the level by 9 dB |
| 22:46:42 | amiconn | Usually, I get headers like FF FA A0 64 or FF FA B0 64 (that is with 44.1 kHz stereo, q=7) |
| 22:47:59 | amiconn | After the "breakdown point" not a single header of that type can be found |
| 22:48:02 | dstar5 | bye bye :) |
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| 22:48:17 | LinusN | weird |
| 22:49:13 | amiconn | The first 2 tests were 24 h recordings (a little more, so that file splitting occured). After that I lowered it to 2 h |
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| 22:50:33 | amiconn | If you wanna look into this, I could send you the 2 after-split files (small). The 2 h files are rather large... but I could cut some parts too |
| 22:51:04 | LinusN | i don't think analyzing the files will get us anywhere |
| 22:51:23 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 22:51:29 | * | uski got an idea |
| 22:51:41 | uski | why don't you do rm -rf rockbox, then mkdir rockbox, and then rewrite all the code ? |
| 22:51:44 | uski | ok, not funny |
| 22:53:04 | amiconn | LinusN: What do you think could help to track that down? I guess logic analyzing isn't an option, or could you do long-term capturing? |
| 22:53:06 | | Nick zeekoe|tea is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 22:54:14 | LinusN | i'm not sure how to track it down |
| 22:54:43 | LinusN | no, it isn't all that easy to do long-term logic analysis |
| 22:57:20 | amiconn | I guess I'll do a test recording with Archos fw to see if it is working there. If not, it may be a hw problem |
| 22:57:58 | LinusN | do that |
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| 23:29:07 | midk | bbs |
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| 23:34:33 | electronic50 | hello |
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| 23:34:48 | electronic50 | hello |
| 23:34:58 | electronic50 | i have a question |
| 23:35:02 | s0cks | DIE! |
| 23:35:22 | electronic50 | please help me |
| 23:35:23 | uski | :) |
| 23:35:30 | uski | electronic50, tell us your question first |
| 23:36:09 | electronic50 | i tried to convert a video to the rockbox format and an error apeared |
| 23:36:57 | s0cks | hmm... |
| 23:37:01 | s0cks | First. What is rockbox? |
| 23:37:37 | electronic50 | this is the Rockbox IRC channel no????? |
| 23:37:52 | LinusN | yes it is |
| 23:38:07 | electronic50 | from the rockbox.haxx.se page |
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| 23:39:05 | zeekoe | what is rockbox? |
| 23:39:08 | zeekoe | rockbox is cool |
| 23:39:12 | zeekoe | that's what rockbox is |
| 23:39:26 | LinusN | electronic50: what was the error? |
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| 23:39:58 | zeekoe | hmm... odd... |
| 23:40:00 | zeekoe | "Plugin authors should know that since we have decided not to distribute code from anonymous authors, using Bluechips code means |
| 23:40:00 | zeekoe | the plugin would not be distributed in Rockbox." |
| 23:40:09 | electronic50 | wait me |
| 23:40:15 | zeekoe | what makes BlueChip more anonymous than me? |
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| 23:40:56 | * | s0cks is here ONLY to be a neusance to midk. Please understand. I hate him so much. |
| 23:41:59 | LinusN | zeekoe: you mean that your name isn't Ronald Teune at all? |
| 23:42:18 | LinusN | s0cks: ? |
| 23:42:33 | electronic50 | wait wait |
| 23:42:48 | zeekoe | LinusN: yes it is :-P |
| 23:43:04 | LinusN | that makes bluechip a lot more anonymous than you |
| 23:43:09 | zeekoe | so BlueChip never gave out his real name? |
| 23:43:12 | LinusN | no |
| 23:43:14 | zeekoe | hm |
| 23:43:15 | zeekoe | ok |
| 23:43:26 | zeekoe | still i don't really see the problem |
| 23:43:47 | electronic50 | the error is :Error extracting the audio. Check AVI File |
| 23:44:16 | zeekoe | but it's somewhat more clear to me |
| 23:44:26 | zeekoe | electronic50: what kind of audio does the avi have? |
| 23:44:49 | electronic50 | i don't know |
| 23:45:48 | zeekoe | electronic50: get this: http://www.headbands.com/gspot/download.html |
| 23:45:56 | electronic50 | ok |
| 23:46:03 | zeekoe | it will tell you all sorts of nice things about the video file |
| 23:46:13 | electronic50 | ok |
| 23:46:38 | LinusN | s0cks: what is there to hate about midk? |
| 23:46:57 | s0cks | He is being an asshole at the moment. |
| 23:47:20 | amiconn | LinusN: I'm currently const-policeing the function arguments under /apps. While doing this, I found a strange thing in playlist.c |
| 23:47:23 | | Join invistispy [0] (~a@Ottawa-HSE-ppp257577.sympatico.ca) |
| 23:47:33 | invistispy | hey whats up ppls |
| 23:47:42 | s0cks | I can actively participate though. |
| 23:48:04 | LinusN | s0cks: asshole? |
| 23:48:19 | s0cks | Yes. |
| 23:48:40 | electronic50 | ok the audio is MP3 |
| 23:48:53 | invistispy | ive been gone for like 2 months anything big new with rockbox |
| 23:49:08 | s0cks | Yes. |
| 23:49:11 | s0cks | Midk is gone. |
| 23:49:37 | invistispy | i see |
| 23:49:52 | s0cks | Other than that... moving to twiki |
| 23:50:02 | invistispy | has anyone bothered workin on multimedia |
| 23:50:31 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK electronic50 |
| 23:50:31 | electronic50 | «zeekoe» the audio is MP3 |
| 23:51:38 | zeekoe | yikes |
| 23:51:40 | zeekoe | mirc |
| 23:51:41 | LinusN | invistispy: no |
| 23:51:57 | zeekoe | electronic50: what kind of mp3? |
| 23:52:04 | zeekoe | does it say the video and audio is ok? |
| 23:52:12 | zeekoe | what program do you use to extract the audio? |
| 23:52:50 | electronic50 | WAIT |
| 23:54:18 | zeekoe | waiting |
| 23:54:22 | zeekoe | :) |
| 23:54:29 | electronic50 | YES TE VIDEO AND THE AUDIO IS OK |
| 23:55:12 | electronic50 | and the program that i use to extract the audio is the Rock Video that have the Lame encoder |
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