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| 00:14:12 | Jonodude | Haha. |
| 00:14:18 | Jonodude | I was wondering if someone could help me |
| 00:14:20 | Jonodude | ? |
| 00:15:07 | Jonodude | USB issues... |
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| 00:16:11 | uski | Jonodude, what is your problem? |
| 00:16:50 | Jonodude | Well, I recently purchased a new motherboard, processor, and some other stuff |
| 00:17:19 | Jonodude | To get to the point, when I plug in my Recorder 20, the computer freezes everything except the cursor |
| 00:17:48 | uski | must be an OS problem |
| 00:17:49 | Jonodude | When installing the drivers, the computer froze up as well. |
| 00:17:58 | Jonodude | Win98, eh? |
| 00:18:00 | uski | this confirm what i suppose :) |
| 00:18:10 | uski | Win98 doesn't have a very good usb support... |
| 00:18:40 | uski | what's your computer ? |
| 00:18:49 | uski | what is the motherboard, CPU, ... ? |
| 00:19:12 | uski | you may want to install the drivers of your motherboard |
| 00:19:14 | Jonodude | motherboard is ASRock. |
| 00:19:33 | Jonodude | CPU: AMD 2000-something |
| 00:19:44 | uski | and you are running win98 on this ? |
| 00:20:19 | Jonodude | Yes. |
| 00:20:31 | Jonodude | it's all I've got right now... |
| 00:20:41 | uski | ok. the problem is that win98 is not supported anymore by microsoft. |
| 00:20:51 | uski | stock drivers are not updated anymore |
| 00:21:09 | uski | so for new chipsets, new devices, ..., you need to install the latest drivers from the manufacturer |
| 00:21:19 | uski | here, you seem to have a problem with the USB subsystem |
| 00:21:27 | Jonodude | Ah. |
| 00:21:29 | uski | you should try looking if there was a Cd with your motherboard |
| 00:21:37 | uski | if yes, try looking for USB drivers in it |
| 00:21:42 | uski | if you find some drivers for win98 |
| 00:21:44 | uski | install them |
| 00:21:51 | uski | and then try again |
| 00:21:57 | Jonodude | Okay, thanks, I'll try that |
| 00:21:59 | uski | but my advice is to avoid using win98 |
| 00:22:10 | uski | it is outdated :) |
| 00:22:22 | Jonodude | Eh. No money here. |
| 00:22:34 | uski | heh :\ |
| 00:22:37 | Jonodude | really - I depleted my life's savings upgrading. |
| 00:22:53 | uski | ok |
| 00:22:59 | uski | try installing the drivers |
| 00:23:03 | uski | and come back to tell us the results |
| 00:23:13 | uski | if i'm not there, i am sure you will find somebody else to help you |
| 00:23:27 | uski | also, remember there is a mailling list dedicated to rockbox |
| 00:23:38 | uski | maybe you can try posting there if what i said doesn't work |
| 00:23:49 | Jonodude | The included motherboard disc has some USB drivers... |
| 00:23:52 | Jonodude | I'll try those |
| 00:23:56 | uski | yes |
| 00:24:07 | Jonodude | Okay, BRB |
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| 00:25:42 | scott666 | why would you spend your life saving upgradign a computer running win98? |
| 00:28:18 | uski | well, i think he had a very old system, like a pentium 200 or so |
| 00:28:35 | uski | so he bought some new motherboard with video, audio, network, and so on, a new CPU, and some RAM |
| 00:28:55 | uski | and he didn't have some money left to buy windows xp |
| 00:29:05 | uski | (i have to tell him about linux btw ;)) |
| 00:29:41 | scott666 | yeah, that was my initial reaction |
| 00:29:46 | scott666 | 'linux is free...' |
| 00:30:04 | scott666 | and then theres always suprnova/kazaa |
| 00:30:12 | uski | unfortunately, many people don't even know that linux exists |
| 00:30:34 | scott666 | the new gmini was on /. today |
| 00:30:38 | uski | and 90% of people who know it does think it is a "system for geeks", you see what i mean :) |
| 00:30:48 | scott666 | too true |
| 00:30:51 | uski | well, maybe he wants to be honest |
| 00:31:03 | uski | maybe he doesn't want to use a pirate copy |
| 00:31:06 | uski | that's his choice |
| 00:31:08 | scott666 | yeah |
| 00:31:15 | uski | but at least, we have to tell him to consider free alternatives to windows |
| 00:31:35 | scott666 | i've been meaning to install linux (being a geek and all), but i just never got around to it |
| 00:31:40 | midk | i'd never pirate an os.. |
| 00:31:56 | scott666 | sure you wouldnt midk |
| 00:32:01 | midk | apps/games are one thing, the whole os is another |
| 00:32:04 | midk | :p |
| 00:32:48 | scott666 | i didnt pirate my copy of xp, but i do feel its my moral obligation to screw M$ |
| 00:33:12 | midk | just don't use "M$" stuff in that case. |
| 00:33:21 | midk | you're pirating a piece of shit? you must be proud of yourself. |
| 00:33:24 | uski | i have many Windows XP licenses |
| 00:33:25 | midk | :) |
| 00:33:30 | uski | sold with my different computers |
| 00:33:35 | uski | and i do not use them |
| 00:33:47 | midk | uski, you purchased them, correct? |
| 00:33:49 | uski | WINDOWS IS SHIT. for me. |
| 00:34:07 | uski | if people are happy about it, then it's ok for them |
| 00:34:10 | uski | but im not happy with windows |
| 00:34:15 | uski | midk, i was forced to buy these licenses |
| 00:34:25 | midk | i guess you don't understand, i'm AGAINST pirating an OS, not WITH it. |
| 00:34:26 | uski | computer vendors don't allow you to choose |
| 00:34:30 | scott666 | i had the option to not buy windows when i got my computer |
| 00:34:32 | uski | yea i understand |
| 00:34:40 | scott666 | i chose to because i want to play games |
| 00:34:54 | uski | scott666, i didn't, otherwise i wouldn't have that much licenses |
| 00:35:18 | scott666 | http://www.pugetsystems.com/ <−− highly reccomend these guys |
| 00:36:04 | uski | im playing with an online internet camera, with zoom/pan/tilt features |
| 00:36:13 | uski | it's a panasonic model, located in some university |
| 00:36:17 | uski | with a 21x optical zoom |
| 00:36:26 | scott666 | lol |
| 00:36:29 | uski | this camera costs at least $1299 |
| 00:36:40 | uski | it's funny, i can see people very far away ;) |
| 00:36:55 | uski | i would give the url but i don't want it to be in the irc log. |
| 00:37:08 | uski | if you want it, ask me for it and i'll give it in a private chat window |
| 00:39:00 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:41:22 | midk | haha |
| 00:41:58 | midk | NOO |
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| 00:42:28 | Jonodude | I'm back |
| 00:42:37 | midk | follow her scott |
| 00:42:44 | Jonodude | And... no luck |
| 00:42:50 | scott666 | lol |
| 00:42:59 | midk | follow someone |
| 00:42:59 | midk | :D |
| 00:43:17 | midk | HAHA |
| 00:43:23 | scott666 | wonder where that tables going |
| 00:43:36 | uski | rofl |
| 00:43:46 | uski | i have to make me such a webcam |
| 00:43:51 | Jonodude | Computer froze up, so I left it plugged in to see what would happen. I came back a little while later and found the computer un-froze, but no Archos "drive". |
| 00:43:58 | uski | unfortunately i will never be able to buy a zoom lens |
| 00:44:05 | uski | Jonodude, hmm |
| 00:44:18 | uski | while you were away |
| 00:44:22 | uski | we had some discussion about you ;) |
| 00:44:24 | midk | DAHAHa |
| 00:44:25 | uski | do you know linux ? |
| 00:44:27 | Jonodude | Me? |
| 00:44:29 | uski | it's a free OS |
| 00:44:36 | Jonodude | Sure, I've heard of it |
| 00:44:39 | uski | with all the features that win98 has |
| 00:44:41 | scott666 | those chick's table got jcaked! |
| 00:44:45 | uski | what are you using your computer for ? |
| 00:45:23 | uski | internet, games, wordprocessing, ... ? |
| 00:45:32 | Jonodude | Exact Audio Copy, web surfing, occasional game, and actually my schoolwork |
| 00:46:05 | uski | at least, linux is free. i don't know if you can really use it, but i'd like to help you with it. some people prefer to get a pirate copy of windows XP, but some others, like me, prefer a free OS |
| 00:46:10 | uski | ok |
| 00:46:18 | uski | the major problem with linux nowadays is the games |
| 00:46:24 | uski | many games are made only for windows |
| 00:46:35 | Jonodude | Like Motocross Madness, I'd guess |
| 00:46:45 | uski | yea :) |
| 00:46:56 | scott666 | but you get tux racer |
| 00:47:03 | scott666 | mostly the same thing |
| 00:47:14 | scott666 | lol |
| 00:47:19 | Jonodude | haha |
| 00:47:37 | uski | (midk, scott666, stop play_ihng with the cam i want to seez sth) |
| 00:48:00 | Jonodude | My father mentioned something about an XP "student edition"? |
| 00:48:16 | uski | no |
| 00:48:18 | uski | XP SE |
| 00:48:23 | uski | is a "light" edition of windows x |
| 00:48:24 | scott666 | wasnt that the one theyre releasing to korea thats totally crippled? |
| 00:48:25 | uski | xp |
| 00:48:31 | midk | haha, nm |
| 00:48:32 | uski | it will allow you to run only 3 apps simultaneously |
| 00:48:37 | uski | also, many features have been removed |
| 00:48:39 | scott666 | yeah, thats the one |
| 00:48:49 | uski | it is meant for the asian market |
| 00:48:55 | uski | where almost all copies of windows xp are pirated ones |
| 00:49:01 | Jonodude | haha |
| 00:49:05 | uski | microsoft thinks that they will start selling windows xp by making a cheap edition |
| 00:49:10 | uski | unfortunately... err... |
| 00:49:14 | uski | i don't think it will work... |
| 00:49:25 | Jonodude | Yeah. That's pretty lame. |
| 00:49:28 | scott666 | i dont understand how you can expect someone to use a computer with onyl three apps |
| 00:50:14 | scott666 | firewall, anti virus, ____ |
| 00:50:18 | uski | and the funnyiest is the excuse microsoft told about this |
| 00:50:26 | uski | they said... they said... |
| 00:50:32 | uski | IT HELPS THE USER STAYING ORGANIZED |
| 00:50:36 | uski | funny isn't it ? |
| 00:50:48 | scott666 | this was on /., right? |
| 00:50:51 | Jonodude | "sic"? |
| 00:50:55 | uski | yea a few days ago |
| 00:50:58 | uski | Jonodude, sic. |
| 00:51:05 | Jonodude | haha. |
| 00:51:08 | uski | :) |
| 00:51:17 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:51:17 | * | Jonodude laughs out loud |
| 00:51:43 | uski | (too bad there isn't a loudspeaker on the cameraa, so we could say "HEY YOU, BOY ! BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YA !" |
| 00:52:02 | scott666 | that would be awesome |
| 00:52:05 | uski | yea rofl |
| 00:52:10 | scott666 | i wanna be able to shout at these people |
| 00:52:14 | uski | :)) |
| 00:52:23 | uski | "STOP LOOKING AT HER, IT'S MY GF !" |
| 00:52:32 | uski | hey stopi saw a girl |
| 00:52:33 | uski | RED ALERT |
| 00:52:36 | uski | let me look at her |
| 00:52:55 | Jonodude | what are you doing? |
| 00:53:00 | scott666 | ooh, frisbee |
| 00:53:47 | scott666 | that guys been on that bench for a while now |
| 00:53:49 | uski | Jonodude, we're looking through the windows of the building next to our common room with a special IR camera |
| 00:53:52 | uski | we're all roommates |
| 00:54:01 | uski | don't we, scott666 ? :) |
| 00:54:07 | scott666 | yup |
| 00:54:17 | Jonodude | Oh, you know, I have a PCI USB 2.0 card I bought for our other computer, because it did not come with 2.0. Would using that make a difference? |
| 00:54:26 | uski | Jonodude, it may. |
| 00:54:32 | Jonodude | Hmm. |
| 00:54:36 | uski | try putting it, and before doing anything, install the drivers of it |
| 00:54:41 | uski | => stop the computer |
| 00:54:44 | uski | => put the card in it |
| 00:54:47 | uski | => install the driver |
| 00:54:52 | uski | => connect your archos |
| 00:54:54 | Jonodude | Yep, that's how it goes. |
| 00:54:55 | uski | in this oprder |
| 00:54:57 | uski | -pà |
| 00:55:00 | uski | -p |
| 00:55:53 | Jonodude | However, I noticed lately (or observed) that its speeds were more like that of a 1.0 USB |
| 00:55:54 | scott666 | stupid trees |
| 00:56:02 | Jonodude | Not sure why it would seemingly slow down. |
| 00:56:16 | uski | Jonodude, im not sure win98 has support for usb 2.0 |
| 00:56:23 | uski | and i think it's because of this that you are having trouble |
| 00:56:29 | Jonodude | That could be it... |
| 00:56:31 | Jonodude | pff |
| 00:56:35 | uski | you know, last time microsoft shown the usb support of win98 |
| 00:56:38 | uski | they got a blue screen |
| 00:56:48 | uski | yea, bill gates having a blue screen in front of hundreds of persons |
| 00:57:00 | uski | it gives you an idea of the usb support :) |
| 00:57:03 | scott666 | i got my archos to work with 98 |
| 00:57:08 | scott666 | usb 1.1 only |
| 00:57:16 | scott666 | uski: ive seen that video, its great |
| 00:57:22 | uski | yea lol |
| 00:57:27 | uski | hey look at the cam |
| 00:57:28 | Jonodude | haha. |
| 00:57:32 | uski | there is some girl at the upper-right corner |
| 00:57:43 | Jonodude | Hey, in linux, you can boot up in windows, correct? |
| 00:58:01 | uski | Jonodude, linux is another OS |
| 00:58:04 | uski | in linux, no windows |
| 00:58:07 | uski | in windows, no linux |
| 00:58:11 | uski | it's not the same at all |
| 00:58:19 | Jonodude | I know |
| 00:58:29 | uski | but you can have both in the same computer |
| 00:58:33 | Jonodude | I thought I remember hearing that you can choose which OS to boot, or something |
| 00:58:33 | uski | and if you have some CD-ROM reader |
| 00:58:37 | uski | you can even use a bootable linux CD |
| 00:58:41 | uski | they work great |
| 00:58:44 | uski | i would advice using Knoppix |
| 00:58:48 | uski | yes |
| 00:58:53 | uski | it's called having a multiboot |
| 00:58:53 | Jonodude | Sounds interesting. |
| 00:58:56 | uski | yea, it is |
| 00:59:04 | uski | so you don't have to install anything on your harddrive |
| 00:59:10 | uski | you can work on linux, as if it was installed |
| 00:59:10 | Jonodude | That would be good if I just wanted to transfer files. |
| 00:59:16 | uski | you can even save and open files from/to your hard drive |
| 00:59:19 | uski | wiuthout installing anything :) |
| 00:59:23 | uski | exactly |
| 00:59:32 | uski | LOL the camera |
| 00:59:35 | Jonodude | Since my little "upgrade", I have a better processor than our other computer. :) |
| 00:59:38 | uski | see the boy drinking |
| 00:59:42 | uski | :)) |
| 00:59:47 | Jonodude | So I'd really like to use this one for USB transfer |
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| 01:00:02 | Jonodude | Hmm, people sell XP on ebay |
| 01:00:06 | uski | then, try using knoppix |
| 01:00:08 | uski | ah |
| 01:00:08 | uski | no |
| 01:00:12 | Jonodude | haha |
| 01:00:12 | uski | don't buy there |
| 01:00:15 | Jonodude | I wouldn't dare |
| 01:00:18 | uski | 99% of chances to get a pirate copu |
| 01:00:20 | uski | copy |
| 01:00:34 | uski | if you really want a pirate copy, don't give money to these guys, and download it |
| 01:00:46 | uski | i don't advice you to do it, but at least, don't give money to pirates |
| 01:01:07 | uski | scott666, more zoom, more zoom ! :D |
| 01:01:09 | Jonodude | Nah, I don't like pirating things. ;) |
| 01:01:27 | uski | neither do it |
| 01:01:29 | uski | i |
| 01:01:32 | uski | that's why im using linux :) |
| 01:01:34 | uski | free |
| 01:01:41 | uski | and almost every software for linux is free |
| 01:01:47 | uski | at least, you can find everything you need for free |
| 01:01:55 | uski | there are very good offices suites like OpenOffice |
| 01:01:57 | uski | and so on |
| 01:02:12 | uski | no need to pay a bunch of money for something buggy ;) |
| 01:02:13 | Jonodude | Unfortunately our CD-writer has recently died so... |
| 01:02:19 | uski | where do you live ? |
| 01:02:24 | Jonodude | US. |
| 01:02:33 | uski | ok. if you were in europe i could have sent you a Knoppix CD ;) |
| 01:02:47 | uski | but i'm afraid of high shipping charges to send one to the US |
| 01:02:58 | uski | maybe you can find someone in the USA who would accept to burn you a CD |
| 01:03:28 | Jonodude | So, how does this Knoppix work? I mean, do you download the OS files and simply burn them to your CD? |
| 01:03:58 | uski | you will get a big .iso file |
| 01:04:00 | uski | it's called an image |
| 01:04:01 | scott666 | you download an image file |
| 01:04:04 | uski | do you know what it is ? |
| 01:04:22 | uski | it's a file that is a "copy" of all the content of the CD |
| 01:04:24 | scott666 | and your bios has to be able to boot to a cd |
| 01:04:30 | uski | the CD burner will burn the data in this file straight into the CD |
| 01:04:38 | Jonodude | Yep. |
| 01:04:42 | uski | scott666, it must be able to do so as it is a modern motherboard |
| 01:05:28 | Jonodude | Yeah, I had to do that because my floppy did not work for some reason... |
| 01:06:30 | Jonodude | still can't get it to work, but since I have a LAN I can copy any files from a floppy from our other computer to this one. |
| 01:06:31 | uski | scott666, midk: lol the camera... look at the [thing to sleep] ! |
| 01:06:44 | uski | (what's the english name for this ? the light-blue thing) |
| 01:07:06 | Jonodude | "thing to sleep"? "light-blue"? |
| 01:07:12 | midk | bed? |
| 01:07:30 | AciD` | anybody managing the mailing list here ? |
| 01:07:30 | Jonodude | pillow? |
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| 01:07:53 | uski | hmmm maybe |
| 01:08:33 | midk | no, |
| 01:08:35 | midk | mattress. |
| 01:09:00 | uski | ok |
| 01:09:08 | uski | pillow is where you put your head, right ? |
| 01:09:14 | Jonodude | Yes! |
| 01:09:27 | uski | ok :) |
| 01:09:33 | Jonodude | Haha. |
| 01:10:08 | * | uski is still learning english =) |
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| 01:11:08 | Jonodude | As I understand it English is not a very "friendly" language for foreigners? |
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| 01:11:23 | uski | well, i like the english language |
| 01:11:40 | uski | but at school they don't teach us usefull vocabulary |
| 01:11:45 | scott666 | i hear its easy to learn english if you already know french and german |
| 01:11:50 | Jonodude | Hm. |
| 01:12:05 | scott666 | but i cant speak from experience, because i already know english and i dont know german |
| 01:12:05 | AciD` | that's not right for french |
| 01:12:17 | uski | i only know french ;) |
| 01:12:24 | scott666 | i know some french |
| 01:12:35 | scott666 | i went to france this summer, it was fun |
| 01:12:42 | Jonodude | I'd like to learn some other languages |
| 01:12:47 | Jonodude | Not that'd they'd be very useful to me |
| 01:12:51 | BlueChip | perl is a good language |
| 01:12:52 | scott666 | i suggest french |
| 01:12:58 | scott666 | pythons good too |
| 01:13:05 | Jonodude | haha |
| 01:13:12 | Jonodude | That |
| 01:13:17 | Jonodude | That's right; I want to learn PHP |
| 01:14:02 | scott666 | jewberg! |
| 01:14:18 | Jonodude | wha? |
| 01:14:23 | scott666 | lol |
| 01:14:56 | uski | scott666, where did you go to france ? im french :) |
| 01:15:18 | scott666 | various places |
| 01:15:37 | scott666 | that i cant think of off hand |
| 01:16:40 | uski | ok :) |
| 01:16:47 | uski | and why was it fun ? ;) |
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| 01:17:54 | scott666 | because! its a foreign country |
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| 01:19:16 | Jonodude | yeah, that's it |
| 01:19:38 | scott666 | i was supprised id actually learned as much french in school as i did |
| 01:20:13 | scott666 | im going to complain to my french teacher about how useless all those tenses are |
| 01:20:38 | Jonodude | haha |
| 01:21:00 | uski | :)) |
| 01:22:48 | scott666 | damn you plus-que-parfait! |
| 01:24:48 | scott666 | heh |
| 01:27:41 | AciD- | more than perfect ! |
| 01:29:22 | scott666 | indeed |
| 01:29:33 | AciD- | try http://www.leconjugueur.com/ukindex.php |
| 01:29:34 | AciD- | :) |
| 01:30:25 | scott666 | i foudn that, its a nice tool |
| 01:31:55 | Jonodude | re:knoppix - haha, 699 MB download. :P |
| 01:34:10 | Jonodude | the knoppix website translation thinger isn't working so well... |
| 01:45:47 | uski | scott666, i never use this tense |
| 01:45:54 | uski | well, i do, but it's not mandatory |
| 01:45:59 | uski | it's only if you wanna speak a perfect french |
| 01:46:07 | uski | i mean, you have to use it for a correct french |
| 01:46:12 | uski | but we will understand you even if you donj't use it :) |
| 01:46:26 | uski | many people do not know how to use these tenses correctly |
| 01:46:31 | uski | brb, have to drink a bit |
| 01:46:59 | scott666 | uski: myself included ;-) |
| 01:47:01 | uski | (who's zooming on the light ? scott666 ?) |
| 01:47:07 | scott666 | not me |
| 01:47:12 | uski | i entered a contest to win a network camera |
| 01:47:22 | uski | maybe i'll win :)) |
| 01:48:57 | scott666 | dstar5 had a much less nice camera at his library |
| 01:49:08 | scott666 | i saw him walk past it |
| 01:50:54 | uski | ooo |
| 01:50:59 | uski | do you have the URL ? :) |
| 01:51:25 | scott666 | i may have it in logs |
| 01:51:33 | uski | give it ! ;) |
| 01:52:27 | scott666 | got it |
| 01:53:46 | uski | ok ty |
| 01:54:22 | scott666 | the timelapse mpegs are cool |
| 01:54:34 | scott666 | really shows how few people walk past |
| 01:56:31 | scott666 | ooh, a spider crawled across the cam |
| 01:56:32 | scott666 | cool |
| 01:56:39 | Jonodude | haha |
| 01:56:41 | uski | yea lol it's very frequent |
| 01:59:07 | uski | ok |
| 01:59:11 | uski | time2sleep |
| 01:59:16 | uski | 02:04 a.m. |
| 01:59:17 | midk | later uski |
| 01:59:18 | uski | :) |
| 01:59:19 | uski | seeya |
| 01:59:35 | scott666 | l8er |
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| 02:02:07 | Jonodude | oh, hey guys, can you explain to me exactly how the resume feature works? |
| 02:02:11 | Jonodude | I have it set to always ask |
| 02:02:19 | Jonodude | But sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't |
| 02:02:29 | Jonodude | Whether or not I was playing anything when I shut off. |
| 02:02:39 | | Part BlueChip |
| 02:03:40 | Jonodude | I think it has to do with how I shut it off. |
| 02:03:51 | Jonodude | Sometimes, I just hold the OFF button until the unit turns off. |
| 02:03:56 | Jonodude | Sometimes I press it twice |
| 02:04:05 | Jonodude | And sometimes I go to "Shut Down" in the main menu |
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| 04:27:35 | Siege77 | Hey... quick question... anyone know where you can order remotes for the recorder? |
| 04:27:52 | midk | archos.com? |
| 04:28:02 | Siege77 | checked it out |
| 04:28:05 | Siege77 | archos is a little bitch |
| 04:28:14 | midk | hmm |
| 04:28:14 | Siege77 | they don't keep older products availible |
| 04:28:18 | midk | google.com is all i could suggest in that case |
| 04:28:21 | midk | sorry |
| 04:28:46 | Siege77 | its cool... thanks dude.. i appritiate it |
| 04:28:57 | midk | np |
| 04:28:58 | Siege77 | i just stumbled upon rockbox |
| 04:29:04 | Siege77 | dam it kicks some ass |
| 04:29:15 | midk | :) |
| 04:30:00 | Siege77 | alright.. i'm out.. later dude.. thanks again! |
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| 11:00:40 | GauchoDude | morning |
| 11:01:42 | dwihno | hei |
| 11:06:17 | webmind | moin |
| 11:07:45 | GauchoDude | do any of you know the pinout of the Archos Jukebox 20 USB A to USB A cable ? |
| 11:08:02 | dwihno | Not really |
| 11:08:31 | dwihno | You can purchase A-A cables, ya'know |
| 11:08:38 | dwihno | Or are you doing some cool mod? |
| 11:09:08 | GauchoDude | simply trying to get a cable & not pay Archos 40 bux US |
| 11:09:44 | GauchoDude | thinking I'd like to patch 2 USB's together temporarily till I get the exact one |
| 11:10:19 | dwihno | I paid roughly $9 for my cable |
| 11:10:36 | dwihno | works as good as the archos cable .) |
| 11:11:45 | GauchoDude | http://www.newmp3technology.net/products.php?cat=13 |
| 11:11:54 | GauchoDude | thats the only one I have been able to find |
| 11:12:03 | GauchoDude | do you have a VOM ? |
| 11:12:34 | dwihno | Go to a computer store, tell them what you want, and they'll fix it. |
| 11:12:36 | dwihno | VOM? |
| 11:12:53 | GauchoDude | looked already |
| 11:12:58 | dwihno | not everything has to be done online .) |
| 11:13:00 | webmind | hmm, i paid 50~60 bucks for my usb cable |
| 11:13:01 | GauchoDude | Volt/Ohm/Meter |
| 11:13:14 | dwihno | webmind: ouch! |
| 11:13:15 | GauchoDude | to test the pinouts |
| 11:13:21 | webmind | but thats a 24 karat one.. |
| 11:13:29 | GauchoDude | yeah Archos wants 40 bux plus shipping |
| 11:13:38 | GauchoDude | so... |
| 11:13:43 | webmind | GauchoDude, rippoff |
| 11:13:55 | GauchoDude | if someone here could test their cable and tell me what pins go to what pins |
| 11:13:59 | GauchoDude | I could make my own |
| 11:14:28 | webmind | GauchoDude, its anormal usba - usba |
| 11:14:39 | * | dwihno bakes a cake... all this cable talk has given me the munchies |
| 11:14:48 | webmind | checked hardwarebook.net ? |
| 11:15:10 | GauchoDude | there is no such thing as a "normal" usb A to usb A |
| 11:15:15 | GauchoDude | I checked usb.org |
| 11:15:27 | GauchoDude | that cable is a non-standard cable |
| 11:16:24 | webmind | well.. its sold quite commonly |
| 11:16:40 | dwihno | yup |
| 11:16:45 | webmind | i could even buy one in iceland |
| 11:16:48 | GauchoDude | dunno where you live, but I checked locally here |
| 11:16:51 | dwihno | I'm considering getting one for backup purposes |
| 11:17:24 | GauchoDude | just checked hardwarebook.net |
| 11:17:27 | GauchoDude | nothing there on it |
| 11:17:56 | midk | http://www.pccables.com/cgi-bin/orders6.cgi?action=Showitem&id=ID1662339&partno=70502&search=USB&rsite=g.usb&rcode= |
| 11:18:30 | midk | it's [one of] the most common usb cable[s] ever. |
| 11:18:36 | GauchoDude | lmao |
| 11:18:39 | GauchoDude | no, its not |
| 11:18:43 | GauchoDude | but thx fer the link ! |
| 11:18:43 | midk | which one? |
| 11:18:50 | midk | at the archos place, top or middle |
| 11:19:03 | webmind | btw.. showmecables.com sells affordable cables.. if u live iin the us |
| 11:19:03 | midk | er, newmp3technology |
| 11:19:15 | GauchoDude | yeah newp3tech has 'em |
| 11:19:20 | midk | GauchoDude, http://www.newmp3technology.net/products.php?cat=13 |
| 11:19:22 | GauchoDude | I was hoping to find the pinouts |
| 11:19:26 | midk | which one? top or middle. |
| 11:19:49 | GauchoDude | middle |
| 11:20:03 | midk | $9.99 isn't bad |
| 11:20:06 | midk | why don't you want it? |
| 11:20:10 | webmind | GauchoDude, usb pinout is on hardwarebook.net |
| 11:20:32 | GauchoDude | I want to make one now, and not wait for shipping |
| 11:20:40 | GauchoDude | webmind, I'll look |
| 11:20:50 | GauchoDude | its not |
| 11:20:54 | GauchoDude | looked now twice |
| 11:21:11 | webmind | i see it in front of me |
| 11:21:13 | midk | run out to an electronics store. |
| 11:21:20 | webmind | under connectors |
| 11:21:23 | midk | in a few hours you can. |
| 11:21:49 | GauchoDude | I'm there webmind... where |
| 11:22:07 | webmind | universal serial bus |
| 11:22:18 | webmind | search the page for it |
| 11:22:29 | GauchoDude | http://www.usb.org/faq/ans5#q8 |
| 11:22:45 | GauchoDude | FWIW thats the "official" USB org response to Type A to Type A cables |
| 11:23:54 | GauchoDude | right.. this I know webmind... |
| 11:24:00 | GauchoDude | what I'm trying to determine... |
| 11:24:16 | GauchoDude | is if the cable used for the archos, is straight thru or twisted |
| 11:24:28 | GauchoDude | for instance, does pin 1 go to pin 1, etc |
| 11:24:37 | dwihno | sounds most reasonable to me |
| 11:24:41 | GauchoDude | or are pin 2/3 reversed |
| 11:24:46 | | Part amiconn |
| 11:24:46 | GauchoDude | which does dwihno ?? |
| 11:25:21 | webmind | GauchoDude, that there not compliant to the standard doesntmean they're not common |
| 11:25:36 | GauchoDude | ok... whichever webmind |
| 11:25:45 | GauchoDude | I've checked all the local places here in town |
| 11:25:48 | GauchoDude | no one carries them |
| 11:26:07 | dwihno | GauchoDude: 1 to 1, 2 to 2 and so forth |
| 11:26:16 | webmind | weird.. every decent electro shop ive visited has them |
| 11:26:26 | GauchoDude | dwihno, you know that for a fact or saying that ? |
| 11:26:34 | dwihno | The first computer store I went to carries them. |
| 11:26:38 | dwihno | GauchoDude: Just a guess... |
| 11:26:45 | webmind | and some online shops has them aswell.. as shown above |
| 11:26:51 | GauchoDude | not doubting you folks |
| 11:26:58 | GauchoDude | just haven't found 'em here in Buffalo, NY |
| 11:27:13 | webmind | weird |
| 11:27:18 | GauchoDude | tell me about it |
| 11:30:35 | midk | bed, nite |
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| 11:43:40 | uski | i had huge troubles trying to find usb A to A cables, if you're speaking about that |
| 11:45:32 | GauchoDude | yes |
| 11:53:28 | GauchoDude | ok just made one up from 2 USB cables |
| 11:54:32 | dwihno | Let's see if it works |
| 11:54:36 | dwihno | 1-1, 2-2 and so forth? |
| 11:55:29 | GauchoDude | yeah |
| 11:55:36 | GauchoDude | seems to be thus far |
| 11:55:45 | GauchoDude | now I'm gonna try rockbox :) |
| 11:55:57 | GauchoDude | not sure if batteries are charged enuff but soon will see ! |
| 11:56:04 | dwihno | Hooray for me, the technically impaired \o/ :) |
| 11:56:24 | dwihno | I was right \o/ :) |
| 11:57:00 | webmind | :) |
| 11:57:01 | GauchoDude | hahaha |
| 11:57:11 | GauchoDude | well I didn't have too many choices |
| 11:57:21 | GauchoDude | I knew power wouldn't be reversed (I thought) |
| 11:57:25 | GauchoDude | and only 2 data pins |
| 11:57:31 | GauchoDude | so I had 50/50 chance |
| 11:58:01 | dwihno | hush! let me have my moment of glory :) |
| 11:58:10 | dwihno | and my cake is starting to smell lovely! |
| 11:59:40 | GauchoDude | hehe |
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| 12:09:41 | GauchoDude | ok it accepts files :) |
| 12:12:05 | dwihno | seems like your cable works then |
| 12:12:12 | dwihno | good for you :) |
| 12:12:21 | GauchoDude | so far |
| 12:12:25 | GauchoDude | its a cob job |
| 12:13:47 | dwihno | I am considering making a cable shorter |
| 12:14:04 | dwihno | My computer barely powers an external disk using the usb connector |
| 12:14:12 | dwihno | So if I make the cable shorter... |
| 12:14:50 | dwihno | what do you think? |
| 12:15:34 | webmind | how much shorter? |
| 12:16:35 | dwihno | well |
| 12:16:42 | GauchoDude | oh won't make much difference |
| 12:16:44 | dwihno | the current cable I have is approx 50 cm |
| 12:16:51 | dwihno | so if I make it ~ 20 |
| 12:17:27 | dwihno | GauchoDude: I beg to differ... Using a cable only 20 centimeters longer is a no-go |
| 12:18:06 | dwihno | (been there, tested that) |
| 12:19:58 | GauchoDude | could be, depends on alotta things though |
| 12:20:04 | GauchoDude | directly attached USB device ? |
| 12:20:07 | GauchoDude | using a hub ? |
| 12:20:12 | GauchoDude | powered hub ? |
| 12:20:15 | GauchoDude | laptop ? |
| 12:20:21 | dwihno | Connecting it to a powered hub, it runs (barely) |
| 12:20:23 | GauchoDude | desktop PC with beefy powersupply ? |
| 12:20:50 | dwihno | My laptop won't juice it up (not even the cardbus usb2 card) |
| 12:22:55 | GauchoDude | yeah my opinion on that is... use a power supply for your external HDD |
| 12:23:20 | dwihno | it's a 2.5" ... it should be runnable |
| 12:23:51 | GauchoDude | mebe |
| 12:24:11 | GauchoDude | but bear in mind, the electronics to power the IDE to USB bridge also suck up power |
| 12:25:31 | uski | maybe like 10mA ? :) |
| 12:25:38 | GauchoDude | uhh |
| 12:25:39 | uski | nothing compared to the power requirements of the HDD |
| 12:25:51 | GauchoDude | mebe like 500 mAh or more |
| 12:25:57 | GauchoDude | depends on alotta stuff... |
| 12:25:58 | GauchoDude | PLUS |
| 12:26:11 | dwihno | I need to get a soldering iron as well. |
| 12:26:32 | dwihno | Just twisting the cables won't do this time ;) |
| 12:26:35 | GauchoDude | to power up a hdd, requires a STABLE 5 volts with at least 500-700 mAh draw |
| 12:26:49 | GauchoDude | without dropping voltage below say 4.5 volts |
| 12:27:48 | GauchoDude | so if 1 foot of cable draws that much in terms of resistance |
| 12:27:57 | GauchoDude | I wouldn't bother trying it |
| 12:28:05 | dwihno | The current cable works |
| 12:28:21 | GauchoDude | k, could be a thicker wire inside too |
| 12:28:27 | GauchoDude | less resistance |
| 12:28:35 | dwihno | Although it sometimes feeds insufficient power, which makes the disk "click" one or two times |
| 12:29:32 | uski | GauchoDude, believe me, the electronics inside the USB to IDE bridge do not needs a lot of power |
| 12:29:39 | GauchoDude | I think this JB 20 is fuxed |
| 12:29:50 | GauchoDude | uski, depends, but it sure don't draw nuffin |
| 12:30:30 | GauchoDude | I know the one in HP external burner sux the juice |
| 12:30:58 | GauchoDude | in my... |
| 12:32:24 | GauchoDude | works perfectly as a HDD |
| 12:32:42 | GauchoDude | newly formatted it, put the factory archos firmware on it... |
| 12:32:54 | GauchoDude | boots, and says "5.08" |
| 12:33:04 | GauchoDude | then screen either goes blank or is garbage.. |
| 12:33:20 | GauchoDude | put the roxbox 2.2 on (including sub directories) |
| 12:33:23 | GauchoDude | and a few MP3's |
| 12:33:28 | GauchoDude | doesn't boot at all |
| 12:33:53 | GauchoDude | batteries appear to be well charged, been plugged in for 6-8 hours and read high on my Volt meter |
| 12:34:23 | dwihno | Damn, I'm pleased with my digital camera. |
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| 12:39:53 | webmind | which type? |
| 12:40:58 | dwihno | pentax optio 550 |
| 12:41:17 | dwihno | Lots of grain in low-light environments, but otherwise, it's kickass! |
| 12:45:08 | dwihno | yum! |
| 12:45:14 | dwihno | This cake was gooood. |
| 12:48:14 | GauchoDude | hrmmm |
| 12:48:16 | GauchoDude | ok |
| 12:48:21 | GauchoDude | the unit plays songs |
| 12:48:24 | GauchoDude | and buttons work |
| 12:48:29 | GauchoDude | but display don't work :( |
| 12:48:48 | GauchoDude | it works some I think |
| 12:49:08 | GauchoDude | 'cuse it displayed "USB CONNECTED" for awhile when I first attached it |
| 12:49:16 | GauchoDude | but I can't see the menu or track list |
| 12:49:34 | GauchoDude | but its playing songs just fine, and I can hit + - to scroll thru tracks |
| 12:50:51 | GauchoDude | any suggestions ? |
| 12:51:32 | GauchoDude | ok guess I'll try the archos firmware |
| 12:53:16 | dwihno | you need to disconnect the cable |
| 12:53:28 | GauchoDude | it is |
| 12:57:09 | GauchoDude | hrmm |
| 12:57:58 | GauchoDude | strange |
| 12:58:04 | GauchoDude | now I turned it off completely |
| 12:58:09 | GauchoDude | plugged it into USB |
| 12:58:16 | GauchoDude | shows up, can move files... |
| 12:58:28 | GauchoDude | and now displayse Jukebox ver: 5.08 |
| 12:58:39 | GauchoDude | so apparently, the rockbox never loaded |
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| 13:00:53 | GauchoDude | any suggestions ? |
| 13:01:35 | GauchoDude | plus, odd thing is... latest jukebox firmware on Archos site is 5.07a, not 5.08 |
| 13:02:20 | dwihno | if the unit is plugged in before you start it up, it will use the archos' firmware for the usb part (unless you've flashed) |
| 13:03:05 | GauchoDude | it was on batteries |
| 13:03:19 | GauchoDude | lemme try sumfin |
| 13:05:55 | GauchoDude | plugged into what ? |
| 13:05:58 | GauchoDude | wall or PC ? |
| 13:06:34 | GauchoDude | oh wait |
| 13:06:39 | GauchoDude | its working ! |
| 13:07:12 | GauchoDude | sort of |
| 13:07:17 | GauchoDude | screen is still a bit goofy |
| 13:07:30 | GauchoDude | think I got a bad screen or solder joint to the screen |
| 13:08:53 | GauchoDude | ok better |
| 13:09:12 | GauchoDude | now I think I have 5.07a working, but screen still is somewhat haywire |
| 13:09:24 | GauchoDude | gonna try rockbox 2.2 now |
| 13:10:30 | GauchoDude | ok, so now...detach it |
| 13:10:32 | GauchoDude | power off |
| 13:10:40 | GauchoDude | then power on, should take new firmware right ? |
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| 17:04:14 | BlueChip | just did a cvs update and got an error in "sysfont.c" ...I know the fonts changed recently and I have ensured that /fonts is updated - anybody have any idea what my trouble is? |
| 17:04:46 | lImbus | Hi |
| 17:04:53 | BlueChip | hey there limbus |
| 17:05:01 | lImbus | ... BlueChip, long time not ssen |
| 17:05:08 | BlueChip | been soooooo busy lately |
| 17:05:12 | lImbus | no, no idea at the moment. |
| 17:05:27 | lImbus | it works fine without having changed mor than usual |
| 17:05:32 | lImbus | which error ß |
| 17:05:36 | BlueChip | thanks anyway, i've done something silly I'm sure |
| 17:05:43 | lImbus | hehe |
| 17:05:52 | lImbus | I wonder why you're sure |
| 17:06:01 | BlueChip | /sysfont.c:19: error: syntax error before "_font_bits" |
| 17:06:24 | lImbus | BTW: need a gmail-account ? 've got 6 invitations to sharre |
| 17:06:38 | BlueChip | well my assured'ness probably stems from my guess that others have not seen this trouble |
| 17:07:03 | BlueChip | thanks for the offer of gmail, but you missed your chance by about 14 hours - LOL |
| 17:07:11 | lImbus | lol |
| 17:07:17 | BlueChip | I helped someone here last night and they made the same offer :) |
| 17:07:53 | BlueChip | done much yourself lately? |
| 17:08:28 | lImbus | no, beeing hard working too (and some holiday). |
| 17:08:49 | BlueChip | what is your job/study? |
| 17:10:02 | lImbus | application developer at www.cycos.com |
| 17:10:40 | lImbus | this includes developing a proper dev language (c/c++-dialect) with compiler and virtual machine |
| 17:11:05 | BlueChip | brb |
| 17:13:31 | BlueChip | sorry - gf == nmi |
| 17:13:57 | BlueChip | sounds like good fun - whats the target platform? |
| 17:15:04 | lImbus | all win32 |
| 17:15:10 | lImbus | what's nmi ? |
| 17:15:18 | BlueChip | non maskable interrupt |
| 17:15:25 | lImbus | eehe. of course |
| 17:15:43 | BlueChip | ...on matter how hard i try |
| 17:15:45 | BlueChip | lol |
| 17:17:41 | BlueChip | is this your first real use of C/C++ |
| 17:18:30 | lImbus | ehh. I'm 22 years old, working for that company since 5 years now. yes, it's my first real job ;-) |
| 17:18:51 | BlueChip | still enjoying it? |
| 17:20:07 | lImbus | well. there are some spoilers, but mainly I'm happy (very !) to have a good comfortable job |
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| 17:20:56 | BlueChip | spoilers? |
| 17:21:14 | lImbus | managers, decisions, bosses |
| 17:21:29 | BlueChip | ahh, yes, start reading Dilbert - it will help :) |
| 17:21:40 | lImbus | I do. since 5 years ! |
| 17:21:56 | lImbus | it furthermore helped a lot to learn english ! |
| 17:22:40 | BlueChip | hmmm, let me guess "since 5 years" ...German? |
| 17:23:00 | lImbus | german-speaking belgian, working in germany. |
| 17:23:40 | BlueChip | use "for" instead of "since" ;) |
| 17:24:06 | lImbus | does "for" imply i'm still reading dilbert ? |
| 17:24:17 | lImbus | i didn't got that one |
| 17:24:22 | BlueChip | yes |
| 17:24:34 | lImbus | nice, tnx |
| 17:25:19 | BlueChip | welcome - i used to ignore such things, but I have met many people over the years who have asked to be corrected |
| 17:25:52 | lImbus | brb |
| 17:27:27 | BlueChip | "kiwi, kumkwat and fig delight" ...I think shampoo has just crossed the line - LOL |
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| 17:43:33 | lImbus | back |
| 17:44:42 | BlueChip | wb |
| 17:44:47 | lImbus | heh |
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| 17:58:24 | amiconn | hi |
| 17:58:39 | bagawk | hii |
| 17:58:41 | lImbus | hi |
| 17:58:56 | amiconn | BlueChip: Do you still get that sysfont.c error? (sorry for log peeking) |
| 17:59:46 | BlueChip | hi ami: yes, and I still haven't spotted the source of it yet (excuse the pun) |
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| 18:00:26 | amiconn | BlueChip: You have to recompile convbdf, this isn't taken care for automatically (lack of dependencies) |
| 18:00:43 | amiconn | cd into /tools, and "make convbdf" |
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| 18:00:46 | BlueChip | d'oh! ...knew I'd kick myself! Thanks dude |
| 18:01:43 | BlueChip | woohoo :) |
| 18:02:03 | lImbus | shouldn't it hurt more ? |
| 18:02:08 | lImbus | oh, maybe it does ! |
| 18:02:15 | lImbus | ;-) |
| 18:02:34 | BlueChip | LOL |
| 18:02:58 | BlueChip | how's life with you - i see you've been keeping yourself real buy in the CVS logs :) |
| 18:03:28 | BlueChip | should that read... I see, from the CVS logs, that you've been keeping yourself busy |
| 18:04:50 | amiconn | Yes, I want to keep the size of my to-do lists down (at least one of them - the rockbox to-do list) |
| 18:05:16 | amiconn | It's still not empty - there are a number of nasty bugs in rockbox :( |
| 18:07:39 | bagawk | where? |
| 18:09:19 | amiconn | (1) I found a way to reproducably get a corrupt .playlist_control file - it seems that there is a bug in the file system (Linus also suspects that) |
| 18:09:52 | amiconn | (2) mpeg.c accesses null pointers - ouch! (detected with my new debug feature) |
| 18:10:06 | amiconn | (3) loading a .cfg file stops playback |
| 18:10:32 | amiconn | (4) The playlist code seems to have a bug concerning usage of relative directories |
| 18:11:16 | bagawk | heh |
| 18:11:24 | BlueChip | I wish i could reliably recreate the bug where the DAC gets switched off and left, until you restart the file |
| 18:11:30 | bagawk | how do you get errors #1? |
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| 18:14:58 | amiconn | How to reproduce (1): From stopped state, move the cursor to hover over a directory containing music. Do not enter it, but press On+Play. From the OnPlay menu, select Playlist->Insert. Playback starts. Press stop, and try to resume with On -> "Playlist control file is invalid" |
| 18:15:47 | amiconn | I did already look into it a bit: it seems the file gets written correctly, but chopped off on close() |
| 18:16:13 | bagawk | it did not work for me |
| 18:16:58 | bagawk | ahh got it now |
| 18:17:06 | amiconn | Hmm. Linus was able to reproduce it too. What Archos + rockbox version do you use? |
| 18:17:23 | amiconn | Ok |
| 18:17:31 | bagawk | the first time i did it, mt rewsume was delayed |
| 18:17:38 | bagawk | the second, i did it immediatly |
| 18:17:44 | bagawk | it worked then |
| 18:18:35 | bagawk | humm it only work on certain directoriess for me |
| 18:19:41 | lImbus | recursive playlist insertion ? |
| 18:20:00 | bagawk | no |
| 18:20:28 | bagawk | there were only mp3's within that folder |
| 18:23:42 | BlueChip | I've gotta eat now - be back soon :) |
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| 18:57:32 | thomas[ger] | hi there from germany ... assistence required for technical question about recorder 20 |
| 18:57:37 | thomas[ger] | please help :-) |
| 18:57:49 | lImbus | yes please ? |
| 18:59:14 | thomas[ger] | i own a recorder 20 with rockbox flashed on it - problem: when i connect the jukebox to my computer (i often use it as a second harddisk) it wouldnt charge the batts any-more, so after short time the jukebox just say goodbye and shuts itselfe down |
| 18:59:37 | thomas[ger] | what to do ? - wrong settings ? |
| 18:59:48 | lImbus | a recorder v1 or a v2 ? |
| 18:59:52 | dwihno | Check if you are using the deep discharge option |
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| 19:00:03 | thomas[ger] | rec v1 |
| 19:00:13 | thomas[ger] | already checked turning off and on ... nothing helped |
| 19:00:25 | lImbus | mhmm. as far as i know it's not planned at all to charge the rockbox by usb |
| 19:00:56 | thomas[ger] | that wouldnt be so good, as i am using it often as harddisk |
| 19:01:07 | dwihno | thomas[ger]: you _do_ keep the charger connected while the usb cable is connected? |
| 19:01:12 | thomas[ger] | yes |
| 19:02:03 | lImbus | mhmm. then there was a misunderstanding. I thought you were charging BY / WITH usb. |
| 19:02:31 | lImbus | I do use it the same, and there is no problem. Which version of software do you run ? |
| 19:04:32 | thomas[ger] | latest cvs |
| 19:04:57 | dwihno | hmm... |
| 19:04:57 | thomas[ger] | and yes i do use the standard charger while connected to usb |
| 19:05:30 | lImbus | then I should try it a least once too. maybe ther's something changed / broken |
| 19:05:37 | * | lImbus is looking for cable |
| 19:07:21 | lImbus | mhmm. debug->battery does not take care of usb_inserted |
| 19:07:55 | thomas[ger] | what means ? (yeah i am a n00b *gg*) |
| 19:09:24 | lImbus | you can't plugin usb while in debug menu (somewhere, I suppose it's all the same) |
| 19:11:10 | thomas[ger] | so is it kind of "normal" it stops charging while connected to usb ? |
| 19:11:35 | lImbus | nononooooo. |
| 19:11:49 | thomas[ger] | *gg* see n00b :-) |
| 19:12:14 | lImbus | I just noticed another small ugly thing. it hasn't to do anything with your problem. I am actually updating to latest cvs so I can check your problem |
| 19:12:37 | thomas[ger] | btw it also happend with the 2.2 version |
| 19:13:04 | lImbus | aah. ok. then it's definately no software-problem. |
| 19:13:25 | thomas[ger] | .k so next thing to check would be the batts ?! |
| 19:13:39 | lImbus | dunno. lemme think about. |
| 19:14:04 | lImbus | are you able to charge the batts in the device WITHOUT usb ? |
| 19:14:47 | thomas[ger] | yeah ... thats working ... it even shows the charging process while connected to usb, but after short time it stops until all power is gone |
| 19:16:14 | lImbus | mhmm. if you charge your rockbox without usb, does it still last as long as usually. |
| 19:16:24 | lImbus | if not, that would mean broken (or worn out) batts |
| 19:17:26 | thomas[ger] | yep they last as long as usual ... is there a way to connect the batt-conectors, so i can use it without any batts ? |
| 19:17:55 | lImbus | mhmm. frickel |
| 19:18:24 | thomas[ger] | what ? :-) |
| 19:19:26 | lImbus | you ask me if there is a way to do it without batteries, and I tell you it#s what they call "frickel-loesung" in german |
| 19:20:01 | thomas[ger] | lol ... |
| 19:20:45 | lImbus | unforutnately, there is no way to run the device without batteries. god only knows (or not even him) why they developed it that way. |
| 19:20:56 | thomas[ger] | hmm |
| 19:32:08 | lImbus | have you got another set of batteries or even better another device. |
| 19:32:16 | lImbus | mhmm. makes not sense anyways |
| 19:36:30 | thomas[ger] | no ... |
| 19:36:37 | thomas[ger] | will buy new batts |
| 19:36:43 | thomas[ger] | and see what happens |
| 19:36:49 | thomas[ger] | thank u anyway |
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| 23:27:38 | amiconn | hi Bagder |
| 23:27:42 | Bagder | evening |
| 23:29:06 | amiconn | I'd like to ask some questions concerning the code, if you don't mind |
| 23:29:36 | Bagder | go ahead |
| 23:31:19 | amiconn | (1) A (probable) inconsistency: In wps.c, there are 2 functions for temporary display of information, display_keylock_text() and display_mute_text(). While the former uses splash(), the latter uses it's own custom screen. Why is that? |
| 23:31:46 | Bagder | probably just because it hasn't been fixed |
| 23:32:07 | Bagder | the splash function wasn't around from the beginning |
| 23:32:27 | amiconn | Ok, so I'll try to change that into splash() for the latter too |
| 23:32:41 | Bagder | sounds like a sane thing to do, yes |
| 23:34:08 | amiconn | (2) Who wrote the *id3tags / _id3tags array handling within mpeg.c? I'd try to fix that myself, but it looks a bit too messy for me to fully understand... This one does NULL pointer accesses, even writes, frequently! |
| 23:34:24 | Bagder | ouch |
| 23:34:35 | Bagder | I believe Linus wrote that |
| 23:34:45 | Bagder | he's mr mpeg.c |
| 23:34:56 | amiconn | Luckily there is nothing writable at address 0 in our boxes... |
| 23:35:18 | amiconn | Ok, so I'll ask Linus when he's around. |
| 23:37:31 | bagawk | amiconn: check out my mail on the topic ROMbox on the fm |
| 23:38:59 | amiconn | bagawk: ? |
| 23:39:22 | bagawk | on the mialing list |
| 23:39:27 | bagawk | *mailing |
| 23:40:02 | amiconn | bagawk: Ah ok, it wasn't there when I first checked (after your msg), but now it is |
| 23:40:11 | bagawk | : ) |
| 23:43:06 | bagawk | archos must be using the same firmware for the ondio, and v2 |
| 23:43:58 | bagawk | and thus similar hardware i would think |
| 23:44:08 | amiconn | bagawk: Hmm, ok. It might indeed be the case that the ondio isn't too much different from our current hardware based. Still, this issue would need someone with some degree of both development and reverse-engineering skills _and_ with an Ondio available to figure out the differences |
| 23:44:18 | amiconn | s/based/base/ |
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| 23:45:38 | _alf | hi |
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| 23:48:50 | amiconn | Bagder: Another one: Is there something that would speak against shortening the debug menu code a bit (without sacrificing functions, that is)? |
| 23:49:21 | Bagder | not that I can think of, no |
| 23:49:55 | bagawk | amiconn: are you talking about removing things? |
| 23:50:32 | uski | Bagder: finally, did you find a new recorder ? |
| 23:50:47 | Bagder | I did, but it hasn't arrived yet |
| 23:51:15 | bagawk | Bagder: recorder v1? |
| 23:51:18 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:51:39 | Bagder | rec 20 v1, the good old fine model ;-) |
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| 23:54:26 | amiconn | Bagder: display_mute_text() with splash() does work :) |
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