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| 00:28:46 | plok | Does taking the cover off the iRiver invalidate the warranty? I can't see anything that says it does or any stickers etc that you need to break... |
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| 00:32:45 | LinusN | there was a sticker on mine |
| 00:34:23 | dwihno | "any attempts to dissect this unit and write your own firmware will void your warranty" ;) |
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| 00:50:16 | plok | Hmm.. looked carefully again on my H340.. no sticker.. I might read the box/manual just to make sure.. the H340 uses standard phillips heads screws |
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| 01:39:16 | Zagor | 31 files changed, 964 insertions(+), 1151 deletions(-) |
| 01:40:01 | Zagor | i think i'll wait with this commit until tomorrow |
| 01:41:37 | dwihno | Give me a small hint what it is about |
| 01:41:46 | dwihno | A tiny hint :) |
| 01:42:10 | Zagor | it's my button change we've been discussing a couple of days now |
| 01:42:26 | Zagor | hopefully you won't notice a thing :) |
| 01:42:28 | dwihno | ah |
| 01:42:44 | dwihno | Well, I'm still running one of the first rombox builds |
| 01:42:56 | dwihno | http://www.bobandgeorge.com/Archive/Jun01.php?date=15 |
| 01:43:46 | dwihno | It's great with commits though :) |
| 01:44:37 | Zagor | I don't get the strip. Is it just late or is it there really no punchline? |
| 01:45:40 | dwihno | rewind 5 strips or so |
| 01:46:01 | dwihno | I think it's awesome :) |
| 01:46:08 | dwihno | But then, I'm easy to entertain. |
| 01:55:47 | Zagor | bed time |
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| 13:03:39 | tron_ | hey, everybody |
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| 13:32:48 | Sebulba02 | Hey, does anyone have problems compiling sysfont.c from cvs for a recorder? |
| 13:37:18 | Sebulba02 | hmm, apparently having weird box issues. nm |
| 13:40:13 | tron_ | apparently not very many ppls. actually here :-) |
| 13:41:12 | Sebulba02 | Like 90% of the other channels I'm in, heh |
| 13:41:36 | uski | Sebulba02, try telling what is happening exactly |
| 13:42:16 | uski | usually when somebody comes accross a "i have a problem" request, people don't like having to ask "what's happening ?", they will answer only if everything is right on the screen :) |
| 13:42:23 | Sebulba02 | uski: Well, I just got the daily build working which should be no different than CVS. |
| 13:42:51 | uski | and what is the problem with CVS ? |
| 13:43:00 | uski | i.e. is there any error message? |
| 13:43:28 | Sebulba02 | It tries to compile sysfont.c and get: sysfont.c:19: parse error before "_font_bits" and a slew of other errors. |
| 13:43:36 | Sebulba02 | warnings* |
| 13:43:37 | uski | ok |
| 13:43:55 | uski | try to see the CVS changelog for this file |
| 13:44:20 | Sebulba02 | CVS hasn't changed since the 17th |
| 13:44:37 | Sebulba02 | Which baffels me that I can compile the daily from today |
| 13:45:55 | uski | hmmm |
| 13:46:10 | uski | im not familiar enough with the latest changes to help you, unfortunately |
| 13:46:14 | Sebulba02 | I even -dCARP 'd my tree |
| 13:46:27 | Sebulba02 | No biggie, the daily worked. |
| 13:46:49 | uski | yea |
| 13:49:04 | tron_ | btw - I might ask a question as well: I'm thinking of getting an archos, mainly because rockbox exists. A player (studio) would be sufficient, but I'd love the USB2.0. Does anyone know if there are players with USB2.0 around or do I need to get a recorder? |
| 13:53:18 | Sebulba02 | I don't even see a place to buy a recorder on their website. |
| 13:53:36 | Sebulba02 | Beats me, then. |
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| 14:03:29 | Nibbler | tron_: recorder has much better output-quality than player (but there is a hardware-mod for player to archieve that) |
| 14:04:05 | tron_ | hmm... |
| 14:04:24 | tron_ | point is that I really don't need to record anything, so that feature is somewhat wasted on me. |
| 14:06:00 | Nibbler | and then... the player does have a crappy display..... |
| 14:07:00 | Nibbler | so its one of 3 features the recorder has, that u dont need :) |
| 14:09:10 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 14:16:42 | tron_ | :-) |
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| 18:13:13 | Nibbler | *gleichaufbrech* |
| 18:13:24 | Nibbler | oops, wrong window.... |
| 18:15:47 | bagawk | Zagor: there are some issues with the progress bar, and the peakmeter with fonts |
| 18:15:59 | Zagor | ok? |
| 18:16:22 | bagawk | 1. The progress bar does not cchange size with the font, and makes it overlap into other lines |
| 18:16:49 | Zagor | if you have a big or a small font? |
| 18:16:50 | bagawk | 2. The peakmeter does not work with fonts with less than a Y of 5 pixles |
| 18:16:58 | bagawk | small |
| 18:17:04 | Zagor | you have a 4-pixel font? |
| 18:17:05 | bagawk | i have not tied with a big |
| 18:17:10 | bagawk | 5 |
| 18:17:15 | bagawk | , but i have tied with a 4 |
| 18:17:20 | bagawk | *tried |
| 18:17:43 | Zagor | I'm not sure we should spend much effort or code on supporting 4-pixel fonts |
| 18:18:23 | Zagor | we could att a limit that won't load it, to avoid confusion |
| 18:18:25 | bagawk | Zagor: well the peakmeter would look strange being fot on 4 pixles, and iwas thinking of just it being disabled |
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| 18:23:49 | Zagor | i think more things will look strange with 4 pixel fonts. file type icons, for example |
| 18:24:09 | bagawk | i do not use the icons |
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| 18:34:22 | Zagor | you don't use 4-pixel fonts either :) |
| 18:34:59 | [IDC]Dragon | hi Zagor |
| 18:35:07 | Zagor | hi |
| 18:35:20 | [IDC]Dragon | how's your big, fat commit coming along? |
| 18:35:41 | bagawk | i like tiny fonts |
| 18:35:42 | Zagor | i'll commit it tonight |
| 18:35:51 | [IDC]Dragon | very nice |
| 18:36:37 | [IDC]Dragon | Jens found out that the Ondio needs FAT16 more than we thought |
| 18:36:48 | Zagor | yeah, i saw that |
| 18:36:58 | [IDC]Dragon | because the internal flash has to be FAT16 in order to boot |
| 18:37:25 | [IDC]Dragon | I started looking on how to debug this |
| 18:37:38 | Zagor | see firmware/test/fat |
| 18:37:55 | [IDC]Dragon | found i nice tine free tool to mount a disk image file as a drive |
| 18:38:00 | Zagor | it's a simulated ata driver |
| 18:38:15 | [IDC]Dragon | for Windows, Linux has that already |
| 18:38:21 | [IDC]Dragon | I know |
| 18:38:29 | [IDC]Dragon | working on a file |
| 18:39:17 | Zagor | and a bunch of test cases |
| 18:39:26 | [IDC]Dragon | so now I can mount that file under windows |
| 18:39:58 | Zagor | everything is so diffcult in windows... ;) |
| 18:40:09 | [IDC]Dragon | don't tell me... |
| 18:40:31 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll have to build a simulator which includes all the file system code |
| 18:40:32 | bagawk | Zagor: sometimes i say the same about *nix |
| 18:40:56 | Zagor | bagawk: but not about programming, i bet |
| 18:41:08 | [IDC]Dragon | not stopping at the POSIX layer |
| 18:41:20 | bagawk | Zagor: no, most of my problems come from X |
| 18:41:38 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: why don't you use the test code we already have? |
| 18:41:42 | [IDC]Dragon | Lee: do you know you started all that Ondio business? |
| 18:41:58 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: yes, I will |
| 18:41:59 | bagawk | [IDC]Dragon: yes |
| 18:42:30 | [IDC]Dragon | I just have to shape up a project file |
| 18:46:05 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: can you tell me some buzzwords for possible issues porting to FAT16? |
| 18:46:40 | [IDC]Dragon | I looked into it a bit, only found slightly different stuff |
| 18:47:13 | [IDC]Dragon | and, of course, the tables having 16 bit entries instead of 32 bit. |
| 18:48:16 | Zagor | i don't remember. it was a while since I looked at it. |
| 18:48:36 | [IDC]Dragon | ok |
| 18:50:12 | Zagor | the root directory is handled differently. in fat32 it's like any other dir, but in fat16 it's special entity |
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| 18:51:07 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm just reading that, yes, horrible |
| 18:53:07 | Zagor | off to cook dinner. bbl |
| 18:53:19 | [IDC]Dragon | enjoy! |
| 18:54:18 | bagawk | what do Swedish people eat for dinner? |
| 18:54:34 | [IDC]Dragon | fish, I guess |
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| 18:57:38 | JK2 | hi |
| 18:58:00 | bagawk | hello |
| 18:58:44 | JK2 | anyone got a Gmini ? :) |
| 18:59:11 | bagawk | JK2: not me, but you can join #gmemu for people that do |
| 18:59:56 | JK2 | ahh, smooth |
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| 19:00:22 | JK2 | how about the AV things, anyone got one of them? :) |
| 19:02:39 | bagawk | not me, but people in #avos, and #linav do |
| 19:06:25 | bagawk | [IDC]Dragon: what is Zagor "big commit"? |
| 19:08:58 | JK2 | cheers |
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| 19:31:57 | amiconn | hi |
| 19:34:30 | bagawk | hey amiconn |
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| 19:38:40 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Do you read? |
| 19:41:23 | bagawk | tiem to go |
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| 20:07:25 | JK2 | anyone got a AV ? :) |
| 20:11:35 | tron_ | Ok, I'll probably get a Recorder 20. Does anyone know whether it works with Linux? I mean, not every ide2usb-chip works well... |
| 20:12:25 | dwihno | it works like a charm |
| 20:12:41 | dwihno | hallelujah for usb mass storage compliance! \o/ |
| 20:13:17 | tron_ | Nice to know. I have a NeoCar-jukebox (maybe someone knows this) and the usb-chip is, lets say, rather incompatible. |
| 20:14:06 | JK2 | do they still sell the Recorders now the Gmini is out? |
| 20:14:21 | JK2 | I know they did a slight face lighted version |
| 20:14:24 | tron_ | Anyone into the different versions? If I'm getting an used Recorder20, is it sure to have USB2.0? I heard that the "15" were available in both. |
| 20:14:38 | tron_ | yes, they do. At least I found it in several online-shops. |
| 20:15:25 | JK2 | tron_: mine is a definite USB2 and I bought it over a year ago |
| 20:16:18 | tron_ | thanks, then I'm likely to get one that does. |
| 20:16:22 | JK2 | think the older version looks better than this : http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/fmrecorder.jpg |
| 20:16:32 | JK2 | my recorder has black rubbers anyway :)# |
| 20:17:06 | JK2 | http://82.37.190.218/archos.jpg |
| 20:17:27 | JK2 | says USB2.0 clearly enough at the bottom :) |
| 20:18:05 | tron_ | the ones I find are these: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/recorder.jpg |
| 20:18:41 | JK2 | same as mine, yours might arrive with l33t black rubbers, lol |
| 20:18:46 | tron_ | which also state 2.0, if one has a closer look :-) |
| 20:20:12 | tron_ | I don't think that the color of the rubber edges will be /that/ important. |
| 20:20:16 | JK2 | why not get a Gmini though? |
| 20:21:10 | JK2 | lol, indeed, aruging over the aesthetics of what is basically their first design in a bit bizzare |
| 20:21:17 | tron_ | more expensive/not compatible with rockbox. |
| 20:21:23 | tron_ | brb |
| 20:21:25 | JK2 | it's like saying my house-brick has rounder edges than yours ;) |
| 20:21:49 | JK2 | they have their own firmware group now - http://www.donat.org/archos |
| 20:23:47 | Zagor | JK2: have they actually ran any code on the gmini yet? i can only find an emulator. |
| 20:24:02 | Zagor | not that there's anything wrong with that, just curious |
| 20:34:54 | JK2 | yup, gromit`aw has one loaded with it I think |
| 20:34:59 | JK2 | he was just testing an .mp2 for me |
| 20:39:29 | JK2 | anyone running an iRiver btw? |
| 20:39:54 | Zagor | you mean right now? |
| 20:41:38 | tron_ | my girlfriend has an iriver. |
| 20:42:01 | Zagor | i hope to buy a broken one tomorrow :) |
| 20:46:23 | JK2 | ahh, should be interesting |
| 20:46:34 | JK2 | is rockbox up and running for the iRiver yet? |
| 20:48:32 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: now I'm here |
| 20:49:05 | amiconn | On friday I tried some commands on the mmc. |
| 20:49:20 | amiconn | No luck yet (get different answers every time) |
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| 20:49:38 | amiconn | But I found some more things that might be interesting |
| 20:49:39 | [IDC]Dragon | no luck as a commander? |
| 20:49:39 | _aLF | hi |
| 20:49:45 | dwihno | "Hello, MMC" : "You want cheeseburgers with those?" |
| 20:50:12 | dwihno | "How are you, MMC?" : "La la la. Ducks in the pond" |
| 20:50:15 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: The original firmware _does_ use DMA, but also incorporates polling routines |
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| 20:50:35 | [IDC]Dragon | like you also intended? |
| 20:51:03 | amiconn | (2) There must be different models of the Ondio, distinguishable by the mask, which have a different clock gate circuit |
| 20:51:31 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, we need more users |
| 20:53:48 | [IDC]Dragon | our PCB is v2.22, suggesting quite a history |
| 20:53:52 | amiconn | Question: Is PA13 really connected to pin *9* of the mmc? Iirc there are only seven pins... |
| 20:54:12 | [IDC]Dragon | the ready/busy pin? |
| 20:54:20 | Zagor | JK2: no that while take a while |
| 20:54:28 | Zagor | *will |
| 20:55:39 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: that pin is "extra", not used for MMC |
| 20:55:57 | [IDC]Dragon | but perhaps for SDI/O |
| 20:56:24 | [IDC]Dragon | an extension, where the card can signal for attention |
| 20:56:31 | amiconn | SD does not fit (tried it), so the socket is mmc only |
| 20:56:46 | [IDC]Dragon | uses by non-memory devices |
| 20:56:50 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Yes. I presume that you mean pin 7, which is data out, and the card will hold DO low as long as it is busy, which is basically the same thing that the busy pin of the internal flash does. Makes sense? |
| 20:57:25 | [IDC]Dragon | no, it's an extra pin where the diagonal cut is |
| 20:57:37 | amiconn | Ah, so it does not make sense |
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| 20:57:54 | JK2 | bbl :) |
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| 20:58:16 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I have a suggestion how we could handle the 2-disk problem for browsing |
| 20:58:32 | [IDC]Dragon | yes? |
| 20:58:40 | Zagor | a top-level with two disk "folders"? |
| 20:58:53 | amiconn | We could do that unix-like, with the internal flash being the root, and "mounting", the MMC under /mmc |
| 20:58:55 | scott666 | [raid0? :-)] |
| 20:59:18 | [IDC]Dragon | working on 2 volumes has issues, I guess |
| 20:59:27 | Zagor | amiconn: i believe doing it windows-like would be more easily understood by many users |
| 20:59:31 | amiconn | That would work because the internal flash is always there |
| 20:59:37 | [IDC]Dragon | like, having files open on both at the same time |
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| 21:00:07 | amiconn | Yes, the fat driver would need to be multi-volume aware |
| 21:00:36 | [IDC]Dragon | let's first make it FAT16-aware :-) |
| 21:00:37 | amiconn | ...and the file descriptor structure has to remember the disk |
| 21:01:04 | scott666 | Zagor: isnt the only main difference calling the folders A: and B:? |
| 21:02:06 | Zagor | scott666: my point is that people are now used to having a "my computer" level where they can see all their available disks, and browse them. I do not advocate using C: D: names, just the top level. |
| 21:02:17 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: A different matter: my next toy has arrived (JB Studio)... |
| 21:02:30 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, congrats! |
| 21:02:42 | [IDC]Dragon | now you need a flash solder job... |
| 21:03:03 | amiconn | So now I have to decide between hacking the Ondio, the Studio flashing, or the recording issues... |
| 21:03:04 | Zagor | there are actually only tree variables in the fat driver that needs to be duplicated for a second volume |
| 21:04:09 | Zagor | ...and adding a volume number to struct fat_file doesn't require much change either |
| 21:04:32 | amiconn | The recording issues are really hard to grasp. I don't get hangs with SPDIF recording as Paul does. However, I found via some statistics a possible cause for the problems. Have to do somre more recordings and calculations to confirm this |
| 21:04:33 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, nice |
| 21:04:38 | scott666 | Zagor: so you want an extra folder-like (MyJB?) object with the 2 drive folders inside it? |
| 21:05:02 | Zagor | scott666: yes, i think that is the most intuitive concept |
| 21:05:06 | amiconn | Zagor: I'd prefer the unix approach, by we could even make it configurable ;) |
| 21:05:14 | amiconn | s/by/but/ |
| 21:05:21 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: is your player flashable? |
| 21:05:33 | Zagor | i think the unix approach would be confusing for people who don't know the unix concept (i.e. the majority of users) |
| 21:05:52 | scott666 | exposure to unix isnt a bad thing |
| 21:05:53 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Didn't put rockbox on it yet. Just got it this evening, and it needs some charging first. |
| 21:06:07 | Zagor | I like the unix concept, but I know it confuses people the first time they encounter it. |
| 21:06:24 | Zagor | also it would make it impossible to add a directory called mmc to the flash :) |
| 21:06:29 | scott666 | but if we can get the learning curve low enough that wont matter |
| 21:06:47 | amiconn | Zagor: Although I'm mainly a Windows user (and Amiga), I prefer the unix approach |
| 21:06:53 | Zagor | scott666: why have a concept you have to explain, when you can have one everyone will immediately understand? |
| 21:07:40 | scott666 | are you sure all *nix users will find the My Computer thing intuitive? |
| 21:08:26 | Zagor | yes |
| 21:08:29 | scott666 | ive always used windows (for the most part anyway) and ive always hated My* |
| 21:08:39 | scott666 | but maybe thats just me :-) |
| 21:08:54 | Zagor | well forget I called it "like windows". just think of it as two drives mounted in the root directory. |
| 21:09:27 | scott666 | i thought that was where we were already at? |
| 21:10:03 | Zagor | in an otherwise empty root directory |
| 21:10:12 | Zagor | not the flash disk root |
| 21:10:22 | scott666 | ok |
| 21:10:58 | Zagor | amiconn, [IDC]Dragon: there's no remote control for the ondio, is it? |
| 21:11:26 | amiconn | None that we are aware of, and a remote wouldn't make much sense for such a small device |
| 21:13:03 | amiconn | Disk in my new Studio: Hitachi DK23DA... hello rlod! |
| 21:13:20 | Zagor | :) |
| 21:14:55 | dwihno | amiconn: it's a wonderful feature! :) |
| 21:14:55 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: no, the serial is not avail. |
| 21:16:05 | amiconn | Zagor: Did someone test your new button handling on a player yet? |
| 21:18:01 | Zagor | not, i've only done it in the sim. there seems to be something wrong with the usb connection on my player. |
| 21:18:12 | Zagor | want to try? |
| 21:20:08 | amiconn | I could do it, as I now have such a beast |
| 21:20:53 | Zagor | nice. http://bjorn.haxx.se/player-btntest.zip |
| 21:21:04 | amiconn | There is approx. 1 GB of data in the /recycled folder... |
| 21:21:15 | amiconn | Pictures, mp3s... |
| 21:21:32 | Zagor | credit card numbers, bank accounts... ;) |
| 21:23:43 | [IDC]Dragon | gotta reboot, c u |
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| 21:28:17 | amiconn | Tsstss... When do people learn how to *delete* stuff |
| 21:30:10 | Sebulba02 | Some never do.. |
| 21:30:26 | Sebulba02 | Some do on accident. |
| 21:30:44 | Sebulba02 | And the rest out of necessity. |
| 21:31:06 | [IDC]Dragon | grr, another reboot (debugging my TV-out) |
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| 21:31:13 | Sebulba02 | Fun |
| 21:33:55 | Zagor | amiconn: have you ever used the player model before? |
| 21:34:03 | amiconn | No. |
| 21:34:19 | amiconn | Still copying data... usb 1.1 is sloooow |
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| 21:38:06 | amiconn | Zagor: I'll try "ordinary" rockbox before, and then your test build |
| 21:39:38 | Zagor | ok |
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| 21:48:22 | tomladtk | hi |
| 21:48:37 | tomladtk | i was on rockbox and it mentioned archos... just wondering what that is |
| 21:48:53 | tomladtk | i have an iriver h140 and im looking for some replacement firmware |
| 21:49:05 | tomladtk | maybe make it do some stuff that iriver couldent make it do |
| 21:49:10 | tomladtk | anyone online here? |
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| 21:50:50 | webguest28 | hi |
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| 21:53:28 | tomladtk | email me if u can answer my questino |
| 21:53:29 | tomladtk | thanks |
| 21:53:31 | tomladtk | tomlad@tomlad.tk |
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| 21:55:28 | amiconn | Zagor: With current cvs, I'm unable to change the volume from wps on the player... |
| 21:56:55 | amiconn | Ah, got it. |
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| 22:15:30 | amiconn | Zagor: There is a bug with your new button handling: |
| 22:16:34 | amiconn | If you use menu+left/right to adjust the volume from the wps, after releasing the menu button the menu pops up. It does not do that with cvs |
| 22:17:55 | amiconn | (2) keylock and mute don't work |
| 22:18:06 | amiconn | (but we can toss mute) |
| 22:18:27 | amiconn | Zagor: Tried it on recorder? |
| 22:32:09 | Zagor | yes I have |
| 22:33:43 | Zagor | so menu+stop does not lock the keys in wps? |
| 22:34:30 | amiconn | Hmm. Now it does. Strange |
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| 22:35:25 | Zagor | it has probably become a bit more sensitive, it does not lock on MENU|repeat+down |
| 22:35:46 | Zagor | fixing the menu popup... |
| 22:41:35 | Zagor | new test: http://bjorn.haxx.se/player-btntest.mod |
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| 22:55:09 | amiconn | Zagor: Menu does still pop up... |
| 22:55:18 | Zagor | hmmm |
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| 23:06:42 | Zagor | i need to work some more on the player volume display |
| 23:14:57 | amiconn | Zagor: Btw: The version string still tells the same date & time as your last test |
| 23:15:15 | Zagor | yes, i only recompiled affected files |
| 23:15:25 | amiconn | Ah ok |
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| 23:16:59 | Zagor | can you try again now? |
| 23:20:24 | amiconn | It works now |
| 23:20:39 | Zagor | good. any other quirks you can find? |
| 23:23:24 | amiconn | Just found one: When you enter info->version, and then leave with "stop" you should be back in the info menu. However, you jump back up to the main menu |
| 23:23:35 | Zagor | ok |
| 23:23:56 | amiconn | ...if you don't press stop _very_ short. This doesn't happen with cvs |
| 23:26:08 | amiconn | Btw: Do your button changes include the new button assignments for the Ondio? |
| 23:26:16 | Zagor | yes |
| 23:29:42 | amiconn | You should start a survey on the ml whether volume & skip should be swapped on the player. I'd vote "yes" |
| 23:29:53 | Zagor | yeah, so would I |
| 23:33:29 | amiconn | Otherwise, rockbox operation with the limited keys & display are rather logical, much better than with archos fw... :) |
| 23:34:36 | Zagor | I'd hope so :) |
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| 23:36:22 | Zagor | ok i'll commit this code now to get more testing. i assume we'll find a few more places I've missed. |
| 23:36:25 | amiconn | Re Jörg! That was a loong reboot ;) |
| 23:36:31 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
| 23:36:40 | [IDC]Dragon | many of them |
| 23:36:51 | [IDC]Dragon | and no improvement |
| 23:37:07 | amiconn | What are you trying to do? |
| 23:37:15 | [IDC]Dragon | I want to create a screen resolution 768*576 |
| 23:37:23 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 23:37:38 | [IDC]Dragon | this was working before |
| 23:37:49 | amiconn | Re your questions: Player does work fine, but unfortunately isn't flashable out of the box |
| 23:38:05 | [IDC]Dragon | "out of the box", haha |
| 23:38:17 | amiconn | ??,?? |
| 23:38:53 | [IDC]Dragon | you know that I had very limited luck with uart boot mod and Players |
| 23:39:02 | amiconn | I know |
| 23:39:25 | amiconn | Anyway, Ondio hacking does have a higher priority |
| 23:39:54 | [IDC]Dragon | and recording? |
| 23:40:13 | amiconn | The recording is a weird thing |
| 23:40:27 | [IDC]Dragon | I must say I didn't follow that story |
| 23:41:09 | amiconn | I don't get the problems with spdif that Paul has. However, I found some interesting thing about the mas: |
| 23:43:14 | amiconn | It seems that if you are encoding with highest quality (7), stereo, high sample rate, _and_ crc protection & m/s stereo encoding are active at the same time, the mas delivers much more defective frames than if either of these 2 options is off |
| 23:43:47 | amiconn | It seems that within these conditions, the processing capabilities of the mas reach their limit |
| 23:44:39 | amiconn | Rockbox 2.2 has crc protection off (by mistake), but m/s stereo on. This produces a few corrupt frames |
| 23:45:24 | amiconn | Archos firmware has crc protection on, but m/s stereo off (on purpose?). This also produces a few corrupt frames |
| 23:46:24 | amiconn | However, if both features are on (rockbox cvs), the mas delivers much more corrupt frames. If I switch m/s stereo off, the error rate drops to (approximately) that of the archos fw |
| 23:48:33 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm |
| 23:48:59 | [IDC]Dragon | dumb question: what's m/s stereo? |
| 23:51:37 | Zagor | Mid/Side stereo, isn't it? althought I'm not sure how it differs from Joint stereo |
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| 23:56:50 | Zagor | ok, "joint stereo" simply means any method to reduces stereo into less than two full datatreams. mp3 uses two different encoding modes for this: "m/s stereo" and "intensity stereo" |
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| 23:57:34 | Zagor | instensity is generally only used in low bitrates (<96kbps) |
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