00:00:14 | Newone^ | where did get the drivers? |
00:00:39 | Newone^ | I could only find win9x ones.. and they say winxp it uses built in mass storage drivers.. but never finds them :( |
00:00:39 | kkkk | New: have you tried a fresh version of windows with the official drivers? |
00:00:46 | kkkk | hmm :\ |
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00:01:05 | kkkk | thats actually happened to me with an external usb hdd :\ |
00:01:14 | Newone^ | I have 5 systems here.. have tried now different drivers etc.. on all but one |
00:01:17 | kkkk | maybe its a service pack 2 thing..which SP do u have? |
00:01:20 | Newone^ | < on last clean system |
00:01:24 | kkkk | hmm |
00:01:29 | Newone^ | one* |
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00:01:35 | Newone^ | Thinking that |
00:01:43 | Newone^ | all but this last one has sp2 installed |
00:01:50 | kkkk | hmm |
00:01:59 | Newone^ | Guess I will try it on that one.. DUH :) |
00:02:03 | kkkk | lol :) |
00:02:14 | Newone^ | < brain fart.. brb |
00:02:18 | kkkk | hehe |
00:02:23 | amiconn | Newone^: http://www.archos.com/download/drivers/Archos_USB_Drivers_04062004.zip Unzip, and then point the hardware wizard to this directory. Worked for me with both XP SP1 and SP2 |
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00:04:10 | amiconn | WinXP does have its own drivers for all USB mass storage compliant devices. Devices using ISD200 are not (all Archos USB1.1 jukeboxes: 5000/6000/Studio, and Recorder up to 15) |
00:04:34 | RxPony | hmm |
00:05:02 | Newone^ | yep on that one also .. cant install this hardware.. blah blah because wizard can not find the nesassary software ;) |
00:05:13 | Newone^ | Ok will try that :D.. |
00:05:24 | Newone^ | not a sp2 issue to this point anyway |
00:05:42 | RxPony | ah well :\ |
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00:34:30 | unionpeak | hey anyone here? |
00:34:34 | Zagor | yes |
00:34:43 | unionpeak | my jukebox recorder v2 broke |
00:34:48 | unionpeak | is there anyway i can access the files |
00:34:51 | unionpeak | with my comp |
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00:35:03 | Zagor | depends on how it broke |
00:35:30 | unionpeak | im not sure its some kinda power supply problem....i sent it into archos, but rockbox voids the warranty |
00:35:41 | unionpeak | obviously the hd's still good though if they could find that out |
00:35:54 | Zagor | are you the one who posted on the yahoogroups list? |
00:35:58 | unionpeak | no'p |
00:37:49 | Zagor | well if you want to void the warranty you can take out the disk and read it in a pc using a $5 adapter. but you want to get that hardware error fixed anyway. |
00:43:52 | unionpeak | yeah its $65 and i dunno if its even worth it now that things kinda big and outdated |
00:44:46 | midk | you can save your stuff and get a smaller one if you wish, like Zagor said |
00:45:35 | unionpeak | yeah |
00:45:44 | unionpeak | whats a good priced mp3 player thats pretty small these days |
00:46:06 | midk | the iriver is small and rockbox is being ported, but it's not good priced last i checked |
00:46:13 | midk | though it may be nowadays, not sure |
00:46:39 | unionpeak | yeah |
00:46:47 | midk | looks like at least 300 |
00:47:08 | midk | you really may want to check out the rio karma.. |
00:47:42 | unionpeak | yeah im a broke college student so i dunno i might just have to be mp3 playerless for awhile |
00:47:57 | midk | is size a problem? |
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01:05:51 | midk | mm.. looks like.. neat |
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03:49:57 | midk | no way. |
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03:50:09 | midk | aww... |
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03:50:15 | midk | no way. |
03:50:35 | Plugh | wtf |
03:50:39 | Plugh | must be a bot |
03:50:47 | Plugh | anyone awake who compiles rockbox? |
03:50:47 | midk | :p |
03:50:49 | midk | haha. |
03:50:54 | * | midk raises hand |
03:50:56 | * | Sebulba02 says "plough" and warps back to the house at the beginning of a road. |
03:50:59 | Plugh | I'm having an issue |
03:51:07 | midk | 'tis it? |
03:51:15 | Plugh | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/plugh/rockbox/tools' |
03:51:15 | Plugh | sh-elf-gcc -O -ansi scramble.c -o scramble |
03:51:15 | Plugh | scramble.c:20:19: stdio.h: No such file or directory |
03:51:15 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Plugh |
03:51:15 | Plugh | scramble.c:21:20: stdlib.h: No such file or directory |
03:51:30 | Plugh | a hollow voice says "Cretin." |
03:51:52 | Plugh | worked last time I built |
03:51:52 | midk | never had it, did you install the cross compiler correctly? |
03:51:55 | Plugh | new code doesn't work |
03:52:05 | Plugh | I can still compile out of my old dir |
03:52:15 | Plugh | the cross-compiler works like a charm |
03:52:15 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
03:52:15 | * | Sebulba02 throws Plugh into the maze of directions that are all different. |
03:52:17 | midk | weirder. |
03:52:28 | Plugh | but last time I built was, like, 4 months ago |
03:52:41 | midk | i think they may have updated a few things.. |
03:52:51 | Plugh | You are in a maze of twisty passages. |
03:52:54 | Plugh | It is dark. |
03:52:55 | midk | the doc has been updated recently as well.. may want to re-[install] it. |
03:53:00 | Plugh | You may be eaten by a grue. |
03:53:18 | Sebulba02 | heh |
03:53:23 | Sebulba02 | I miss that game sometimes. |
03:54:36 | Plugh | I'm reading the compile doc |
03:54:40 | Plugh | everything is in order |
03:54:54 | midk | even the right versions of gcc/binutils? |
03:55:01 | Plugh | looks like the makefile wasn't created with the correct INCLUDE dirs |
03:55:11 | midk | amiconn and linus were messing around with different versions a bit ago |
03:55:19 | Plugh | bah |
03:55:38 | Plugh | can you do me a favor, since I have one hour before I have to go do a recording session? |
03:55:44 | midk | yep |
03:55:47 | Plugh | I need a new option for splits |
03:55:52 | Plugh | 76 mins |
03:55:57 | midk | new option for splits? |
03:56:21 | Plugh | right now it has like 1 min, 5 min, 15 min, 30, 60, 120, 180, 240... |
03:56:30 | midk | oh, simple enough |
03:56:32 | Plugh | and no 76 or 80 for CD length |
03:56:50 | Plugh | midk=mk2k? |
03:56:54 | midk | haven't worked with rockbox for a bit |
03:56:55 | midk | yep.. |
03:57:01 | Plugh | hey dude. ltns |
03:57:05 | midk | you haven't been here since the nick change? :) |
03:57:08 | midk | ltns? |
03:57:12 | midk | oh, yep |
03:57:13 | midk | :) |
03:57:14 | Plugh | long time no see |
03:57:24 | midk | defnitely |
03:57:33 | midk | ok, let |
03:57:33 | Plugh | some nitwit registered my nickname on freenode too |
03:57:36 | Plugh | it sux |
03:57:43 | midk | let's see if i can get this working.. |
03:58:05 | Plugh | lemme see if I can find the lines of code that are needed so you can apply to current |
03:58:33 | midk | i've worked on this before... |
03:58:42 | midk | but if you've got a modified copy you need compiled that works too |
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04:00:35 | Plugh | {4, S_O(rec_timesplit), 0, "rec timesplit", /* 0...13 */ |
04:00:35 | Plugh | "off,00:05,00:10,00:15,00:30,01:00,02:00,04:00,06:00,08:00,10:00,12:00,18:00,24:00" }, |
04:00:40 | Plugh | in settings.h |
04:00:47 | Plugh | err settings.cpp |
04:01:08 | Plugh | .c |
04:01:10 | Plugh | damn |
04:01:18 | Plugh | been working in the world of c++ lately |
04:01:21 | midk | looks like the printed text, though.. is that all that needs changing? |
04:01:23 | Plugh | hacking everquest |
04:01:30 | Plugh | not sure. Still searching |
04:02:04 | midk | ah, i've got it i think. |
04:02:23 | Plugh | static const unsigned long rec_timer_seconds[] = |
04:02:23 | Plugh | { |
04:02:23 | Plugh | 24*60*60, /* OFF really means 24 hours, to avoid >2Gbyte files */ |
04:02:29 | Plugh | there's that array |
04:02:31 | midk | 76 and 60? |
04:02:39 | midk | 80* |
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04:03:34 | Plugh | 76 and 80 |
04:04:07 | Plugh | if the times are put in settings and in that array (last in the file) it should work |
04:04:35 | Plugh | I'll submit this as a feature request for upcoming releases |
04:04:44 | midk | i'll merge it when i'm done maybe :) |
04:04:53 | midk | if it w.. you'll have to tell me if it works. |
04:04:58 | Plugh | oh, you have submit access? |
04:05:03 | midk | yep |
04:05:12 | Plugh | you've come a long way. ;) |
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04:05:30 | midk | sure have.. |
04:05:31 | Plugh | CD split times make perfect sense to me |
04:05:37 | midk | you missed my windows->linux transition :) |
04:05:48 | Plugh | so I did. Congrats on the move |
04:05:59 | midk | i've got some bad feeling this won't work so easily. |
04:06:09 | Plugh | why? |
04:06:14 | midk | not sure |
04:06:21 | midk | experience ;) |
04:06:45 | midk | fmr? |
04:06:48 | Plugh | yeah |
04:06:55 | Plugh | still going strong |
04:07:09 | midk | oh, no..... |
04:07:21 | Plugh | ? |
04:07:41 | midk | hang on. |
04:07:56 | Plugh | midk: still dinging when I type this? |
04:08:07 | midk | nope, xchat now, not stupid mirc :) |
04:08:08 | Plugh | or did you fully migrate to Linux? |
04:08:12 | midk | doesn't beep at all anymore :\ |
04:08:13 | Plugh | sweet |
04:08:20 | Plugh | still using irssi here |
04:08:23 | midk | not completely, i use windows for 3d animation and gaming |
04:08:30 | midk | = not too often |
04:08:32 | Plugh | we'll get you to console mode before you know it |
04:08:39 | Plugh | I live in Everquest |
04:08:41 | midk | no way, never! :) |
04:08:48 | Plugh | my latest project is hacking EQ |
04:09:02 | midk | cool |
04:09:03 | Plugh | still opensource |
04:09:04 | midk | never played |
04:09:07 | Plugh | but moving to C++ |
04:09:10 | Plugh | don't start |
04:10:19 | midk | yak yak yak.. |
04:10:21 | midk | ok wtf |
04:10:37 | midk | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/midk/rockbox-devel/tools' |
04:10:37 | midk | sh-elf-gcc -O -ansi scramble.c -o scramble |
04:10:37 | midk | scramble.c:20:19: stdio.h: No such file or directory |
04:10:37 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midk |
04:10:37 | midk | scramble.c:21:20: stdlib.h: No such file or directory |
04:13:16 | Plugh | that's what I got |
04:13:19 | Plugh | gsi |
04:13:20 | Plugh | gdi |
04:13:23 | Plugh | even |
04:13:38 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
04:13:38 | * | Plugh mumbles under his breath |
04:14:05 | midk | they must've moved on to a newer gcc without us :\ |
04:27:52 | midk | ah dammit.. well, i can't get it to work :\ sorry plugh |
04:29:38 | Plugh | I might just patch my working copy |
04:29:44 | Plugh | old code, but it'll work |
04:31:45 | midk | best of luck |
04:33:22 | Plugh | aw crap |
04:33:26 | Plugh | fucked it up |
04:33:35 | midk | ? |
04:33:40 | Plugh | I had a partial copy :( |
04:33:58 | Plugh | now I need to find the archival copy from before the gcc change |
04:34:00 | Plugh | and patch that |
04:34:39 | midk | you can get any version from cvs. |
04:34:47 | Plugh | yeah I know |
04:34:52 | midk | from 7/12/03 if you want. |
04:34:58 | Plugh | but what I don't know is, when it last worked. heh |
04:34:58 | midk | :\ |
04:35:03 | Plugh | 7/12 was good? |
04:35:04 | midk | same ol' attitude ;) |
04:35:08 | midk | no, just a random date |
04:35:29 | Plugh | well, that would have been about the time I last compiled. haha |
04:36:07 | midk | :) |
04:37:33 | Plugh | off the top of your head, was the command -R 07/12/2004? |
04:38:03 | midk | no idea in the world |
04:38:09 | midk | t'would be like this: |
04:38:17 | midk | -R rockbox-daily-20040712 |
04:38:24 | midk | not sure of the -R, that is |
04:38:35 | Plugh | oh |
04:38:35 | Plugh | -D |
04:38:37 | Plugh | sorry |
04:38:40 | midk | -D, yes. |
04:42:48 | Plugh | cool |
04:42:57 | Plugh | last recording changes were in June |
04:43:02 | midk | working? |
04:43:04 | Plugh | so July should be a fine time to build |
04:43:08 | Plugh | it compiled |
04:43:14 | Plugh | making my changes and rebuilding |
04:44:02 | midk | ok, good |
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04:45:44 | Plugh | sheesh, like the old days |
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04:53:30 | Plugh | mk: did you graduate yet? |
04:53:41 | Plugh | didn't remember what grade you were in when I bailed |
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05:12:03 | midk | haha |
05:12:07 | midk | nope, 9th grade :) |
05:14:11 | Plugh | hehe |
05:14:12 | Plugh | okie |
05:14:19 | Plugh | well, didn't get it working |
05:15:55 | Plugh | guess it's hour splits :( |
05:16:10 | midk | damnit :\ |
05:16:26 | Plugh | not even sure which one I'm running now |
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05:28:38 | midk | does that mean that... |
05:28:51 | midk | you'll get 1.2 cds in one mp3? |
05:28:56 | midk | ie, they're continuous? |
05:29:09 | midk | oh, wait. |
05:29:22 | midk | are the cds played continuously, is what i'm asking? |
05:29:40 | midk | if you chose two hours, for example, you'd have an mp3 of one and a half cd or so |
05:30:04 | midk | or you'd have 80 minutes of that 120 total taken up, the last 40m is blank? |
05:36:22 | Plugh | yeah, cds are meant to be played continuously |
05:36:29 | Plugh | recording a party |
05:36:42 | midk | ok, here's the suggestion. |
05:36:49 | midk | set timesplit to off to get one huge file. |
05:36:55 | Plugh | bah |
05:36:55 | Plugh | heh |
05:36:56 | midk | use the splitedit plugin to cut it into pieces. |
05:36:58 | midk | genius! |
05:37:07 | Plugh | there's actually a problem with long files |
05:37:13 | midk | they suck? |
05:37:22 | Plugh | the recorder bugs out from time to time |
05:37:42 | Plugh | and it's far better if the recording stops every so often and makes a new file |
05:37:48 | Plugh | it's a bug in the MAS chip |
05:38:00 | midk | yeah, on a scale of 1-10 i'd rate the recording reliability of rockbox as a 66/10.. archos firmware, 2/10 |
05:38:02 | Plugh | when it gets overloaded, sometimes it bugs out the mp3 frames |
05:38:09 | midk | 6/10* |
05:38:11 | midk | 6!. |
05:38:12 | midk | :) |
05:38:50 | Plugh | there's a program to fix the frames |
05:39:00 | Plugh | so it's not a tragedy when it happens |
05:39:04 | midk | just locked up or stopped for some reason |
05:39:15 | Plugh | no, it actually corrupts the mp3 |
05:39:25 | Plugh | makes it unplayable on anything but the unit |
05:39:34 | Plugh | and even then, it plays back with distortion |
05:39:49 | Plugh | so if you remove all the broken frames, it comes out okay |
05:39:51 | midk | < - < - < - < - < - < - < - |
05:39:55 | Plugh | but missing the frames |
05:40:11 | midk | ^ your mouth :) |
05:40:12 | Plugh | you lose about 1/60th of a second here and there out of the recording |
05:40:39 | Plugh | not a show-stopper, but annoying to have to do nonetheless |
05:40:57 | Plugh | I'll be recording for about 36 hours solid |
05:41:27 | Plugh | and I'd much rather be able to have cd sized chunks to pass around than a 2 gig block of sound |
05:41:50 | midk | oh |
05:42:02 | midk | i thought you were talking something like 4 or 5 cds total |
05:42:12 | Plugh | nah. 20 or 30 |
05:42:15 | Plugh | :) |
05:42:29 | midk | mm :) |
05:42:40 | Plugh | I'm sure you can see now why I'd like to have CD sized splits |
05:42:50 | midk | yeah, i think so. |
05:42:59 | midk | then again, they could be off, not much of a point |
05:43:07 | midk | -could+would |
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11:34:02 | amiconn | hi Jörg |
11:34:22 | [IDC]Dragon | hi Jens! |
11:35:26 | [IDC]Dragon | my FMR almost bursted, with a fat battery |
11:35:49 | [IDC]Dragon | swollen from 5.5 mm to 13.5 mm |
11:36:02 | amiconn | Ooops. :( |
11:36:15 | amiconn | How did that happen? |
11:36:27 | [IDC]Dragon | looked really odd, I probably post pictures later |
11:36:40 | amiconn | Another question: I now have a sorted plugin api. I have not yet committed it, because I want to know whether you are going to add the battery check to the flash plugins. In that case I would export battery_level_safe() before committing |
11:37:04 | [IDC]Dragon | or battery_level() |
11:37:14 | [IDC]Dragon | (or however it's called) |
11:37:28 | amiconn | battery_level() is already there |
11:37:40 | [IDC]Dragon | well, then I can use that |
11:38:13 | amiconn | battery_level() returns a percentage, while battery_level_safe() returns a boolean |
11:38:36 | [IDC]Dragon | the safe limit is not accessible? |
11:38:47 | [IDC]Dragon | like, check for >20% or so? |
11:39:31 | * | [IDC]Dragon has to vacuum-clean now, away |
11:40:22 | amiconn | No, this is only internal. In addition, battery_level() returns the averaged value, while battery_level_safe() uses the current value |
11:40:58 | woop | I have a question about rockbox. If I have 2100mAh batteries should I change the setting to 2100? Will it make it go longer or is just used when calculating the display? (It's still on 1500) |
11:41:01 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, ok, then let's export it |
11:41:09 | woop | (recorder) |
11:41:13 | [IDC]Dragon | (costs just 4 bytes) |
11:41:58 | amiconn | woop: It's used for calculating the remaining runtime, and the max. charging time. I'd recommend to set it to 2100 |
11:42:17 | woop | aah, thx! |
11:43:19 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: The MMC driver is rather sensitive to sparsely yielding plugins :( |
11:45:55 | amiconn | Perhaps I'll change the reading to dynamically decide whether to yield or not (and swap-behind), but this is certainly a post-2.3 change |
11:52:49 | [IDC]Dragon | are we ready for 2.3 otherwise? |
11:53:17 | [IDC]Dragon | then we should announce to please test |
11:53:26 | amiconn | Still thinking about the keyboard... |
11:53:44 | [IDC]Dragon | don't think too hard |
11:54:30 | amiconn | Otherwise there are 2 (minor) quirks on Ondio: (1) save settings is sloooo-oooow (2) Size display in GB doesn't really make sense for MMC |
11:55:37 | amiconn | And the MMC driver still doesn't return unique error codes for each possible error |
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12:03:04 | amiconn | The settings functions load_cfg_table() and save_cfg_table() use a rather primitive way for handling multiple-choice settings. This might be changed to use strtok_r() |
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13:03:13 | [IDC]Dragon2 | I have an evil twin |
13:13:42 | amiconn | If you register your nick, you can kick such ghosts in the future |
13:14:34 | * | [IDC]Dragon2 doesn't like registering |
13:14:44 | [IDC]Dragon2 | it'll go away |
13:17:19 | amiconn | Registering has other advantages too. In case someone else uses you nick, you can kick him. Plus, someone can leave you a message on irc even if you are not there atm |
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16:32:42 | Zagor | whee, I can now browse artists, albums and songs |
16:34:05 | _aLF | :) |
16:38:52 | Bagder | coolers Zagor |
16:38:58 | * | Bagder isn't really here |
16:39:22 | amiconn | Zagor: I can do that since long ;) |
16:39:58 | Zagor | hehe |
16:39:59 | * | amiconn has a well organized mp3 collection |
16:40:20 | Zagor | yeah, so do i. but this is fun anyway. |
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17:07:52 | amiconn | Zagor: Why did you disable the config save on shutdown? I know that this was discussed, and it certainly makes sense on the rtc equipped units. It does not on rtc-less units... |
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17:15:26 | Zagor | I disabled it because having it enabled is worse than having it totally disabled |
17:15:51 | Zagor | ideally we would only spin up if hd_bits have changed, but that is not easily fixed |
17:17:00 | Zagor | gotta go, see you later |
17:17:03 | amiconn | Hmm. On rtc-less units a spinup is also required if rtc_bits have changed |
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17:17:44 | Zagor|away | yes, but you don't want to always spin up when you shutdown. |
17:18:27 | amiconn | On Ondio it is no problem... |
17:20:31 | amiconn | ...but disabling the config save will probably cause wrong resume info, since the Ondio doesn't have an rtc |
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18:05:45 | amiconn | hi again |
18:06:06 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, hi ;-) |
18:07:47 | amiconn | After thinking the button restrictions over and over, I'd settle for the following assignment in the Ondio keyboard: |
18:08:17 | amiconn | - Same look as the recorder keyboard, but without the button bar |
18:08:55 | amiconn | - Direction keys (+repeat) move around the cursor within the 4-row pickboard, and can move it to the filename as well |
18:09:40 | amiconn | - Moving the cursor across the left/right border of the pickboard switches to the previous/next pickboard (no designated shift key) |
18:10:03 | amiconn | - Short Menu in the pickboard inserts character |
18:10:15 | amiconn | - Short menu in the filename is backspace |
18:10:21 | amiconn | - Long menu accepts |
18:10:28 | amiconn | - Off is cancel |
18:10:44 | amiconn | What do you think? |
18:10:51 | [IDC]Dragon | sounds good |
18:10:55 | midk | don't have an ondio, but sounds good to me |
18:11:20 | [IDC]Dragon | especially the accept being the same in both positions |
18:11:52 | amiconn | This may in fact help to make a better player keyboard as well, with only slight changes to the button assignments |
18:12:28 | [IDC]Dragon | I was thinking about a softkey area (button bar position) where you can also move to |
18:13:16 | amiconn | Hmm. If we need more functions, this is certainly an option. |
18:13:36 | amiconn | For player, I think about the following layout: |
18:13:59 | amiconn | - First line is pickboard, second line is filename |
18:14:23 | amiconn | - + and - move left/right in either line, On toggles line |
18:14:50 | amiconn | - Short Play in pickboard line inserts character, in filename it is backspace |
18:14:57 | amiconn | - Long Play accepts |
18:15:02 | amiconn | - Stop is cancel |
18:15:21 | [IDC]Dragon | very similar, indeed |
18:15:38 | amiconn | The Menu button still free... |
18:16:23 | [IDC]Dragon | how tempting |
18:29:10 | [IDC]Dragon | I committed the flash battery check |
18:29:43 | [IDC]Dragon | is the MB/GB issue still open? |
18:30:57 | midk | speaking of battery, what does the Ondio run on? |
18:31:01 | midk | 2 AA? AAA? |
18:31:11 | [IDC]Dragon | midk: 3*AAA |
18:31:52 | midk | interesting... how long do they last on a charge? |
18:32:32 | [IDC]Dragon | I haven't done a long run |
18:33:52 | amiconn | midk: Archos says one set will last ~10 hours. While this is a bit optimistic with their firmware, I consider it as the average runtime with rockbox, using branded alkalines |
18:33:56 | [IDC]Dragon | but since it consumes ~70 mA and AAA rechargeables have ~800mAh |
18:34:18 | [IDC]Dragon | something like 8-10 hours perhaps |
18:35:41 | midk | that's not much at all |
18:36:30 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: MB/GB is still open. I'd go for dynamic calculation of the optimal scale |
18:36:36 | [IDC]Dragon | it gets warm during operation, where the DC converter is, close tothe MMC |
18:36:53 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: do you have that as well? |
18:37:15 | amiconn | ? |
18:37:34 | [IDC]Dragon | ondio heating up |
18:37:48 | amiconn | I did not observe it yet |
18:38:19 | [IDC]Dragon | it suggests the CD/DC converter is inefficient |
18:38:23 | amiconn | I did only run it from alkalines so far (except my power consuptions measurements of course) |
18:39:42 | amiconn | Did you also check power consumption? Could be interesting, especially how much the tuner adds |
18:40:06 | midk | the rio chiba has just 1 AAA battery, and it can run about 12 hours for me |
18:40:31 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: not yet |
18:40:55 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Another thing that came to mind: Do you still get the background noise when recording with internal mic? Did you check whether this also happens with archos fw? |
18:40:56 | [IDC]Dragon | midk: the Ondio used anchient technology, same as for the HD models |
18:41:06 | midk | hahaha :) |
18:41:21 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: I'm sure it does, too, but haven't checked |
18:41:59 | amiconn | midk: Using rockbox actually improves battery life on the Ondio (by 30..40 %). See my power measurements in the wiki. |
18:42:11 | [IDC]Dragon | midk: this was OK while a HD has to be powered, too, but becomes dominant on a flash player |
18:43:07 | midk | amiconn, i'd think so, same for the HD models |
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18:45:14 | yeft | someone lookin for me? |
18:45:28 | midk | i was! |
18:45:36 | yeft | figured... |
18:45:38 | [IDC]Dragon | logan02 was |
18:45:58 | yeft | i dont know logan 02... |
18:46:08 | yeft | !seen logan02 |
18:46:10 | midk | sounds familiar |
18:46:19 | [IDC]Dragon | see yesterdays' log |
18:46:20 | midk | try /msg logbot seen logan02 |
18:46:27 | yeft | it worked... |
18:46:30 | yeft | got a pm |
18:46:37 | midk | !seen LinusN |
18:46:37 | yeft | [LAST SEEN] "logan02" - ~4128de2c@labb.contactor.se Quit 1day 4hrs 17mins 11secs ago Last Note: Quit: (freenode) "CGI:IRC" |
18:46:49 | midk | oh, neat. |
18:46:50 | yeft | whats up mk? |
18:46:52 | midk | never tried it :) |
18:46:53 | yeft | and everyone else |
18:47:00 | midk | not much, you? |
18:47:01 | * | yeft went to the darkside... |
18:47:14 | Bagder | /MSG logbot seen logan02 |
18:47:24 | yeft | freeipods.com... |
18:47:34 | midk | wow, did it work? |
18:47:40 | yeft | basically yeah |
18:47:48 | yeft | i'm just waiting to get my ipod |
18:47:52 | yeft | prolly about a month |
18:47:53 | midk | i tried something like that once, they made me fill out an endless survey |
18:48:19 | yeft | for this you have to do one of their offers, and get 5 people to do it too |
18:48:23 | yeft | hard as hell |
18:48:26 | yeft | but hey... |
18:48:29 | yeft | freeipod! |
18:48:43 | midk | 'do one of their offers'? |
18:49:03 | yeft | they have offers you have to sign up for...like ancestry.com, real.com |
18:49:04 | yeft | et.c |
18:49:08 | yeft | most use credit cards |
18:49:36 | yeft | i was actually lookin into and av480 |
18:49:42 | yeft | but i just couldnt give more money to archos |
18:49:46 | yeft | so i decided to get an ipod |
18:49:49 | yeft | when i found the site |
18:50:13 | [IDC]Dragon | smells fishy |
18:50:24 | yeft | www.freeipodguide.com |
18:50:33 | yeft | 1 million and 1 testimonials you can find on there |
18:50:43 | midk | all fake, for sure |
18:50:48 | yeft | check ouut the forum...its ridculous they have getting freeipods down to an art |
18:51:09 | yeft | theres 100s of pictures of people with their ipods..and my friend got his already |
18:51:16 | midk | come back when you get it and let us know :) |
18:51:22 | yeft | gladly |
18:51:26 | yeft | :) |
18:51:50 | yeft | Dragon: do you know why logan was looking for me? |
18:52:15 | [IDC]Dragon | no, but check the log |
18:52:20 | Bagder | every pyramic scheme has some winners ;-) |
18:52:21 | yeft | aight ... |
18:52:24 | Bagder | pyramid |
18:52:37 | yeft | its not reallly a pyramid scheme persay |
18:52:54 | Bagder | nah, kidding |
18:52:57 | yeft | because the lower levels have the about the same shot as getting the same gift as the higher lever |
18:53:14 | yeft | but in reality it is a pyramid sheme |
18:54:05 | yeft | hahah you guys see the mp3 player |
18:54:07 | yeft | rocbox? |
18:54:24 | Bagder | there's even one called rockbox |
18:54:45 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I wonder what happened to your FMR battery. I though LiIon technology is safe, as long as the charging circuit is working properly |
18:54:51 | amiconn | *thought |
18:55:10 | yeft | 14.22.40 # <logan02> does anyone here know someone named "yeft" |
18:55:18 | yeft | hahah then quits |
18:56:14 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: the GB is in the lang string, brr |
18:56:47 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't feel like changing that in all languages, but well... |
18:57:00 | amiconn | And I guess only "gigabyte" is in the voice files? |
18:57:25 | [IDC]Dragon | no, there's a megabyte as well, iirc |
18:58:57 | [IDC]Dragon | VOICE_MEGABYTE |
18:59:18 | amiconn | I observed a slight quirk with the spelling mode: |
18:59:26 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: I'm not sure if the battery was overcharged or drained |
18:59:50 | [IDC]Dragon | this is the 2nd time I saw that, also with another box |
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19:00:25 | amiconn | Is the box itself still okay? |
19:00:49 | yeft | wonder what logan wanted... |
19:00:52 | yeft | he IMed me... |
19:00:53 | [IDC]Dragon | very surprising, it was at least trying to start |
19:01:02 | yeft | sent him an email... |
19:01:18 | [IDC]Dragon | but the PCB looked terribly bent |
19:01:36 | [IDC]Dragon | the LCD cover popped off the front |
19:02:07 | amiconn | I guess there is no warranty left... |
19:02:20 | amiconn | (voice) There is an entry "point" which is used for number, and so I chose "Komma" for german. However, this is also used for spelling the "." in file names.... which is not correct. |
19:03:16 | [IDC]Dragon | "Komma" was no good choice |
19:04:18 | [IDC]Dragon | the number speaking doesn't translate well anyway, so I'd rather have the spelling correct |
19:04:55 | [IDC]Dragon | while we're not going for locale |
19:04:56 | amiconn | Why? It is the correct translation for "point", which is only used for numbers in english. Iirc, for spelling names etc. in english, either "dot" or "period" is used |
19:05:48 | [IDC]Dragon | for spelling file names, it would be "Punkt" |
19:07:21 | amiconn | Yes of course. What I want to say, the "." in filenames and the "." in numbers is also spoken different in english. I'd rather add an additional entry for "." in names |
19:08:14 | amiconn | (And we need the "Komma" anyway when we're going to add properly localized number speaking) |
19:11:22 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, that's true. |
19:11:35 | [IDC]Dragon | and I'd like to add the silent space |
19:15:25 | amiconn | Yeah, I remember that you already wanted to do this |
19:17:19 | [IDC]Dragon | defining the ID is pretty easy, we could even do this within 2.3 |
19:17:43 | [IDC]Dragon | it's up to the voice file then, if there's really a pause |
19:18:30 | amiconn | yup |
19:18:50 | amiconn | Silence should be pretty easy to encode |
19:20:13 | amiconn | But it probably can't be generated by the sapi voice (I doubt it would generate anything if fed with a single space) |
19:21:25 | amiconn | So I need a little program to generate a silent .wav file in 16 bit mono, with selectable sample frequency and length |
19:22:31 | [IDC]Dragon | the frequency perhaps doesn't matter, and you need this only once |
19:22:46 | [IDC]Dragon | you have no wav editor? |
19:23:15 | amiconn | The frequency does matter, because it should fit the rest of the voice file. |
19:23:55 | amiconn | And, of course I have a .wav editor, but I'd like to have the voice file generation fully automatic. |
19:24:26 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, butthe pause is always the same. your script can just take it. |
19:24:58 | amiconn | The frequency is not the same for all voice files I generate |
19:25:04 | amiconn | (Still, I could do the voice files for 2.3 with some manual preprocessing) |
19:26:16 | [IDC]Dragon | but the frequency for the pause can be the same for all |
19:27:23 | * | [IDC]Dragon now has a green light only FMR |
19:27:23 | amiconn | I think if you queue clips with different sample frequencies, the mas resynchroniztion will be audible. Probably the start of the next clip will be swallowed |
19:27:46 | amiconn | I think we should add some flag for voice generation (in addition to the voice: line) to the lang files. This could be used for various hints to the voice generation script: |
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19:29:41 | amiconn | (1) Flag the "Pause". (2) Indicate whether to use "aggressive" trimming (for numbers/ spelling). (Future, 3) indicate whether this is a code snippet to include instead of a voice clip (for localized numer voicing) |
19:30:51 | [IDC]Dragon | the code snippet is the hardest, but we had that topic |
19:31:34 | amiconn | Yes. There are 2 possible solutions iirc |
19:34:33 | [IDC]Dragon | should I create a pause ID now? |
19:35:12 | [IDC]Dragon | (I gave up on the GB, we'd have to localize it) |
19:35:21 | [IDC]Dragon | MB |
19:36:09 | amiconn | I think you should add the pause (and the "dot" as well) |
19:36:38 | [IDC]Dragon | the dot would break compatibility, if we use it already |
19:40:34 | amiconn | Why should it, if you put it at the end? The only thing that will happen is that the "." is no longer spelled with an old voice file |
19:40:51 | [IDC]Dragon | that's what I meant |
19:41:28 | amiconn | For numbers, nothing will change, and I'd prefer to have this in 2.3 |
19:41:51 | [IDC]Dragon | but for filenames it will |
19:44:36 | amiconn | You could add a fallback (use the old ID if the new one is not present in the voice file) but I think we can go without it. |
19:45:04 | amiconn | There are many character ignored anyway for spelling |
19:45:06 | [IDC]Dragon | no, I'm not adding extra code |
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19:59:25 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, space and (yet unused) dot committed |
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20:07:33 | yeft | i saw a house with the number 127 |
20:07:44 | yeft | i drew .0.0.1 on the sign |
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20:25:15 | midk | vandalist |
20:29:49 | yeft | haha i thought it was fuunny... |
20:30:42 | yeft | ever been to grouphug.us |
20:31:05 | midk | nope |
20:31:13 | midk | HAHA |
20:31:16 | midk | i love it already |
20:31:22 | yeft | its funny |
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20:31:55 | yeft | haha ...we weren't worthy |
20:35:07 | midk | aaaaaaaahahahaha.. nerds |
20:35:21 | yeft | hahha they're funny |
20:35:42 | yeft | i was in an irc chat where it was a bot...you could just type .gh and it would give you a random one |
20:35:45 | yeft | .gh |
20:35:50 | yeft | doesnt work here |
20:35:54 | midk | wow, really. |
20:36:05 | midk | HAHA |
20:36:07 | yeft | yeah |
20:36:09 | midk | join #grouphug |
20:36:14 | yeft | #grouphug |
20:36:20 | midk | try /join |
20:36:21 | midk | :p |
20:36:22 | yeft | ahah forgot /join |
20:38:01 | midk | HAHAHA. |
20:38:02 | midk | i just threw a hp laserjet 7l off my desk at work, it says call service 13 now, so while no one was watching i kicked it as hard as i could now it says. CA%^# #@VIC$ 13. i told my boss must be a bad drum. |
20:38:02 | midk | hah ha |
20:39:31 | yeft | ahhaha |
20:40:55 | midk | |
20:40:55 | midk | When i was 15 i got my brother of 13 drunk and i pretended to be drunk. I did all this just to sleep with him |
20:40:58 | midk | what WEIRDOS. |
20:43:32 | midk | 'I hooked up with one of my sisters friends this weekend and feel like I am the one who was used.' |
20:45:53 | midk | HAHAHAHAHA. |
20:45:54 | midk | " My name is becka and i like to eat my toenails" |
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23:37:03 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Just found I am silly - the pause can indeed be the same for all frequencies. Why? Because the script calls lame with −−resample nn anyway... |
23:38:27 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, in wav. I meant even the mp3 clip |
23:38:54 | [IDC]Dragon | being not worried about sample rate switches |
23:39:02 | amiconn | I am |
23:39:17 | amiconn | Anyway, we just have to decide how long the pause should be |
23:39:26 | [IDC]Dragon | well, then re-generate |
23:39:41 | [IDC]Dragon | have you tried already? |
23:40:18 | amiconn | Nope. Just looking how to teach the VB script pause awareness (and deciding upon the trimming aggressiveness) |
23:40:38 | [IDC]Dragon | I think it can be pretty short, maybe 300 ms or so |
23:41:23 | [IDC]Dragon | just to break the flow of spelling |
23:41:43 | amiconn | I'm looking through the voice file to look for clips with are used in a queued manner (numbers, units, letters, month names...) |
23:41:58 | [IDC]Dragon | wanna see pictures of my poor FMR? |
23:42:07 | [IDC]Dragon | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/bursting_fmr/ |
23:42:37 | amiconn | You said that was already the second time you saw this happen? And the unit was not charging at that time? |
23:43:08 | [IDC]Dragon | it was, I forgot it connected for perhaps 2 days |
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23:43:34 | uski | \_o< |
23:44:13 | [IDC]Dragon | the other one was used by a friend, I don't know exacly what happened |
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23:47:57 | [IDC]Dragon | my "favourite" is this one: http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/bursting_fmr/pcb.jpg |
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23:52:28 | amiconn | I wonder what happened... Either the charging circuit broke, is not designed properly, or the cells are of very low quality. |
23:54:08 | uski | haha |
23:54:54 | uski | this fmr suffers from abdominal wind... |