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| 00:16:59 | Igualada26 | Hi all |
| 00:17:17 | Igualada26 | Does anybody have trouble in loading fonts? |
| 00:17:25 | yeft | not i |
| 00:17:37 | yeft | but then again my fmr blew up a couple months ago... |
| 00:17:38 | Igualada26 | any of them load |
| 00:18:11 | Igualada26 | blew?? |
| 00:18:22 | yeft | a massive explosion |
| 00:18:41 | Igualada26 | you mean original firmware? |
| 00:19:06 | yeft | im confused |
| 00:19:32 | Igualada26 | me too.....:-) |
| 00:19:51 | yeft | i had an fmr, with rockbox flashed on |
| 00:19:57 | yeft | and it was like...i'm done...thats it |
| 00:20:26 | Igualada26 | sounds strange |
| 00:20:42 | yeft | yeah |
| 00:20:52 | Igualada26 | maybe it was not a rockbox fault |
| 00:20:53 | yeft | a day before i left for israel :-/ |
| 00:20:57 | yeft | i dont think it was |
| 00:21:02 | yeft | i thinkk it was archos's |
| 00:21:10 | yeft | thats why i'll nver buy anything from them again |
| 00:21:22 | yeft | it happened to my AJB6k too |
| 00:21:54 | Igualada26 | i see |
| 00:23:20 | Igualada26 | I suppose I am lucky then, to have only this problem and no hardware ones.... |
| 00:24:01 | Igualada26 | anyway my recorder 20 doesn't load any font |
| 00:24:07 | yeft | yeah i was eyein the AV480... but i cant do it |
| 00:24:08 | Igualada26 | and I don't understand why |
| 00:24:15 | yeft | i cant buy from archos |
| 00:24:51 | Igualada26 | well, creative is a good alternative I suppose |
| 00:25:37 | Igualada26 | but ther is no rockbox for creative products |
| 00:25:41 | yeft | ehh..i dont think i'm gonna go to a pmp/pvp |
| 00:25:50 | yeft | i'm gonna go to the ipod |
| 00:25:58 | yeft | somethihng i should have done after the ajb6k |
| 00:26:03 | Igualada26 | and I'm not sure if the can beat the features of rockbox with their firmware |
| 00:26:09 | yeft | the ipod photo is beauttttttttiful |
| 00:26:42 | Igualada26 | that's a very small one isn't it |
| 00:27:44 | LinusN | Igualada26: trouble loading fonts? |
| 00:27:48 | Igualada26 | yes |
| 00:28:06 | LinusN | did you by any chance upgrade from an older version to 2.3? |
| 00:28:10 | Igualada26 | Not even a font loads |
| 00:28:17 | Igualada26 | I've tried all of them in the zip file |
| 00:28:28 | Igualada26 | it seems it tries to load as the red led goes on |
| 00:28:35 | Igualada26 | yes |
| 00:28:42 | Igualada26 | today i did it |
| 00:28:54 | LinusN | have you flashed? |
| 00:29:00 | Igualada26 | but this happens to me since many older versions |
| 00:29:03 | Igualada26 | from 2.2 |
| 00:29:09 | Igualada26 | no |
| 00:29:24 | Igualada26 | just loads the file ajz |
| 00:30:13 | Igualada26 | I remember this to work 2 months ago |
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| 00:30:35 | Igualada26 | but one day one I updated with a daily build |
| 00:30:42 | Igualada26 | and the fonts started not to load |
| 00:31:08 | Igualada26 | and the still don't load with 2.3...... |
| 00:31:37 | Igualada26 | I use my unit while driving and have it a bit far away |
| 00:31:47 | Igualada26 | sthe originalk font is too small |
| 00:31:50 | Igualada26 | :-) |
| 00:31:59 | Igualada26 | I can't read anything while driving |
| 00:32:05 | LinusN | it sounds like your fonts doesn't match the firmware version |
| 00:32:24 | Igualada26 | mmmmm I tried to download again the zip file |
| 00:32:27 | Igualada26 | many times |
| 00:32:32 | Igualada26 | but it seems to be the same always |
| 00:32:41 | Igualada26 | I mean the zip with fonts |
| 00:32:42 | LinusN | and you unzip the entire contents? |
| 00:32:48 | Igualada26 | yes |
| 00:33:09 | LinusN | the fonts are included in the rockbox distribution |
| 00:33:25 | LinusN | you don't need to download them separately |
| 00:33:44 | Igualada26 | I didin't noticed that..... |
| 00:33:59 | LinusN | the zip on the font download page is old |
| 00:34:22 | Igualada26 | I know what you mean |
| 00:34:36 | Igualada26 | let me try..... |
| 00:36:17 | Igualada26 | besides the language file loads correctly |
| 00:36:26 | Igualada26 | (spanish lng) |
| 00:36:36 | Igualada26 | but it doesn't load automatically each time it boots |
| 00:36:50 | Igualada26 | and it's on the .rockbox\lang dir |
| 00:36:57 | Igualada26 | I don't know why |
| 00:37:12 | LinusN | no error messages? |
| 00:37:17 | Igualada26 | no |
| 00:37:29 | LinusN | and you shut it off correctly? |
| 00:37:32 | Igualada26 | it loads correctly i f i play it |
| 00:37:40 | Igualada26 | i think so.... |
| 00:37:49 | Igualada26 | just press off button |
| 00:38:12 | LinusN | v1 recorder? |
| 00:38:35 | Igualada26 | yes |
| 00:38:41 | Igualada26 | unless |
| 00:38:49 | Igualada26 | the lang file is also obsolete |
| 00:38:51 | Igualada26 | ..... |
| 00:38:56 | LinusN | to shut off cleanly, go to the browser and press off twice |
| 00:39:01 | Igualada26 | i see now that there is a lang file in the pack also |
| 00:39:04 | Igualada26 | like the fonts |
| 00:39:22 | Igualada26 | but if i do this.... |
| 00:39:24 | LinusN | yes, you are supposed to install everything in the zip file |
| 00:39:28 | Igualada26 | the resume will be done? |
| 00:39:35 | Igualada26 | i mean it's like pressing stop |
| 00:39:41 | Igualada26 | and then exiting.... |
| 00:40:24 | LinusN | it always resumes if you haven't set it to "off" |
| 00:40:44 | Igualada26 | in the position it was playing exactly??? |
| 00:40:49 | LinusN | yes |
| 00:40:51 | Igualada26 | even if you press stop |
| 00:40:53 | Igualada26 | ... |
| 00:40:54 | LinusN | yes |
| 00:40:58 | Igualada26 | strange.... |
| 00:41:03 | LinusN | why? |
| 00:41:19 | Igualada26 | well not strange |
| 00:41:29 | Igualada26 | just differetn form a cd player would do |
| 00:41:34 | Igualada26 | i suppose |
| 00:41:57 | LinusN | we have done it like that because many people stop it by mistake, and want to resume anyway |
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| 00:42:28 | Igualada26 | mmm it's a good thought |
| 00:42:47 | miner49er | has anyone built todays source in windows? |
| 00:42:49 | LinusN | anyway, you are supposed to install the entire zip contents |
| 00:42:50 | Igualada26 | didn't knew |
| 00:43:07 | LinusN | miner49er: i haven't, why? |
| 00:43:08 | Igualada26 | files are different |
| 00:43:20 | miner49er | I'm having problems building |
| 00:43:28 | Igualada26 | lang files the one i have and the one from the package |
| 00:43:44 | Igualada26 | I thought the other content of th epackage was the program source |
| 00:43:45 | LinusN | from the "download" page: "Unpack the zip archive in the root (top) directory of your Archos disk." |
| 00:43:47 | Igualada26 | or something |
| 00:43:58 | Igualada26 | I didn't noticed the fonts and tha lag files.... |
| 00:44:30 | miner49er | I've done completed my plasma demo! but want to get it work with the ltest build... |
| 00:44:46 | LinusN | miner49er: what's the problem? |
| 00:46:13 | miner49er | I think it's when it tries to build rombox, something about FLASH being full? any ideas? |
| 00:47:16 | Igualada26 | it finally works |
| 00:47:23 | Igualada26 | this was the problem |
| 00:47:52 | Igualada26 | the zip file must be obsolete |
| 00:49:28 | LinusN | yes it is |
| 00:49:42 | LinusN | it isn't needed anymore, so it hasn't been updated |
| 00:49:55 | LinusN | miner49er: fm recorder? |
| 00:49:56 | Igualada26 | ioh i see |
| 00:50:08 | miner49er | yes, fm recorder |
| 00:50:10 | Igualada26 | thank you for your help |
| 00:50:21 | LinusN | miner49er: you can ignore that message |
| 00:50:24 | LinusN | Igualada26: you're welcome |
| 00:51:07 | miner49er | ahh, so everything has probably built okay - I didn't even check! me a dumbass! |
| 00:51:17 | miner49er | i'll go and see... |
| 00:53:50 | Igualada26 | mmmm it seems the lng file doens't want to load automatically |
| 00:54:34 | Igualada26 | but I don't care much for this |
| 00:56:25 | LinusN | Igualada26: tell me how you do to shut off the player |
| 00:56:40 | Igualada26 | I've tried now like you said |
| 00:56:50 | Igualada26 | pressing two times off button |
| 00:57:12 | LinusN | hmmm |
| 00:57:42 | Igualada26 | yes it's quite strange |
| 00:58:21 | Igualada26 | i'm trying again |
| 00:58:31 | Igualada26 | no way |
| 00:58:47 | LinusN | works for me |
| 00:59:22 | Igualada26 | actually the font does load automatically |
| 00:59:29 | Igualada26 | but the lng not |
| 00:59:46 | LinusN | which font? |
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| 01:00:05 | Igualada26 | something14 |
| 01:00:12 | Igualada26 | don't remember the name exactly |
| 01:00:16 | Igualada26 | a big one |
| 01:00:50 | Igualada26 | xtal-14 |
| 01:00:53 | Igualada26 | that's it |
| 01:01:15 | Igualada26 | the directory is named "lang" |
| 01:01:25 | Igualada26 | i think it's not wrong.... |
| 01:01:51 | LinusN | you should have a dir called "langs" as well |
| 01:02:04 | Igualada26 | mmmm let me see if it's langs or lang |
| 01:02:35 | Igualada26 | it's lang |
| 01:03:00 | Igualada26 | i'd swear in the web says to have it named "lang"...... |
| 01:03:21 | Igualada26 | i try with langs.... |
| 01:03:28 | LinusN | Igualada26: stop |
| 01:03:45 | LinusN | 1) follow the installation instructions |
| 01:03:58 | LinusN | (which tells you to install everything) |
| 01:04:20 | LinusN | 2) don't select the language by browsing to the "langs" dir |
| 01:04:38 | Igualada26 | ok youmean i do it with the menu option |
| 01:04:59 | LinusN | yes |
| 01:05:10 | Igualada26 | it works now |
| 01:05:12 | Igualada26 | :-) |
| 01:05:21 | Igualada26 | it's the s missing on lang(s) |
| 01:05:35 | LinusN | yes, it is correctly named in the zip file |
| 01:05:54 | Igualada26 | now i see....... |
| 01:07:13 | miner49er | all has built....except my plasma.c - doI have to add it to anywhere? |
| 01:07:18 | Igualada26 | i won't do the same fault again |
| 01:07:29 | Igualada26 | thanks for your advices |
| 01:07:57 | miner49er | Previously I just dropped my new plugin c file into the correct directory and I was away... |
| 01:08:10 | LinusN | miner49er: apps/plugins/SOURCES |
| 01:08:27 | miner49er | oh...I feel silly now... |
| 01:09:27 | LinusN | it's a pretty new feature, the previous versions of rockbox built everything in the directory |
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| 01:10:39 | miner49er | aah, i see! So why has this been done? |
| 01:11:16 | miner49er | Does this mean if I offer my new plugin as patch I have to also give the patched SOURCES file too? |
| 01:12:19 | LinusN | no |
| 01:12:36 | LinusN | you don't need to |
| 01:12:50 | LinusN | it has been done because not all files are built for all targets |
| 01:18:50 | miner49er | building is very slow too - previously only the file that has changed would be rebuilt - now it goes through all plugins. Is this correct behaviour? |
| 01:20:56 | LinusN | that doesn't sound correct |
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| 01:30:35 | miner49er | hhmm, well they are not fully rebuilding, it's just listing through them saying OBJ COPY or something |
| 01:30:43 | LinusN | yeah, i see why |
| 01:31:01 | LinusN | the dependency handling has changed somewhat, i'll look into it |
| 01:31:25 | miner49er | okay, so it's nothng i've done or not done then? |
| 01:32:41 | miner49er | i'm quite pleased with this plasma effect! do you think it will be added in? |
| 01:36:08 | LinusN | probably |
| 01:38:08 | miner49er | cool :-) |
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| 01:38:31 | LinusN | miner49er: just upload it to the patch tracker |
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| 01:40:11 | miner49er | okay, I want to tidy the code upa bit first though - 2 spaces, no tabs right? well, no one complained about snake2... |
| 01:41:19 | miner49er | If I had to the tracker then a few days later add another version, is that okay too? i.e. should I jsut go ahead and add it in it's current state (working but not the finished product)? |
| 01:42:17 | LinusN | you can always upload new versions |
| 01:42:41 | LinusN | and if we commit it to cvs, you can send patches |
| 01:43:09 | LinusN | and if you behave well, you might even get cvs commit access one day |
| 01:45:25 | miner49er | heh, that would be cool. I need to figure out how to use the diff tool first though! |
| 01:46:12 | miner49er | Okay, thanks for your help - I gotta sleep now, I will probably upload my new toy 2morrow! bye for now! |
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| 01:47:06 | Stryke` | LinusN: all formats with an open source decoder will have a chance of making (eventually) the iRiver port? |
| 01:47:41 | LinusN | Stryke`: more or less |
| 01:47:58 | Stryke` | glad to hear it |
| 01:48:35 | LinusN | we will go for wav and mp3 to begin with, and the probably flac |
| 01:48:43 | LinusN | and ogg playback |
| 01:49:30 | Stryke` | id like to put a vote in for musepack (mpc) |
| 01:49:53 | LinusN | lossless codec? |
| 01:50:06 | Stryke` | no, very high-quality tuned lossy |
| 01:51:05 | Stryke` | also, a large number of my mp3s have APEv2 tags, it would be a welcome addition if they could be read |
| 01:52:20 | LinusN | what is the benefit of apev2 tags? |
| 01:53:05 | Stryke` | at the end of the file like ID3v1, so a change in tag doesn't require rewriting of the file |
| 01:53:34 | Stryke` | field length is large, and you are not limited to fields |
| 01:54:15 | Stryke` | plus, foobar and mp3gain store ReplayGain information in APEv2 tags |
| 01:55:25 | Stryke` | http://www.personal.uni-jena.de/~pfk/mpp/sv8/apetag.html |
| 01:55:31 | Stryke` | thats the specification |
| 01:56:14 | LinusN | i remember reading that once, and failed to see the point in another format |
| 01:56:37 | LinusN | but people keep asking for it |
| 01:57:47 | Stryke` | glad im not alone. it also happens to be Musepack's tag format |
| 01:57:59 | Stryke` | so my questions are semi-related ;-) |
| 01:58:07 | LinusN | :-) |
| 01:58:23 | LinusN | we have a request for it in the feature request tracker |
| 01:58:52 | LinusN | hopefully, someone who cares sends us a patch for it |
| 01:59:07 | Stryke` | excellent, and personally i just want to thank you and the entire effort |
| 01:59:13 | LinusN | you're welcome |
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| 09:03:06 | amiconn | hi matsl |
| 09:04:59 | matsl | hi |
| 09:06:44 | amiconn | I just sent you a reply. New installer including Swedish is built. |
| 09:12:11 | matsl | ok. |
| 09:14:00 | matsl | amiconn, I'll try it some time soon. |
| 09:38:40 | matsl | happy hacking! cu later (breakfast is over ;-) |
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| 10:19:45 | kurzhaarrocker | Bon jour, Zagor |
| 10:22:47 | Zagor | my hovercraft is full of eels |
| 10:23:40 | kurzhaarrocker | ?!? Did you try to make a translation bot to translate "Bon jour"? |
| 10:24:36 | Zagor | "Mon aéroglisseur est plein d'anguilles." :) |
| 10:25:05 | kurzhaarrocker | argh |
| 10:25:09 | Zagor | the phrase is a Monty Python quote |
| 10:27:02 | kurzhaarrocker | Ah, that's what you have been doing in France. |
| 10:27:16 | Zagor | collecting eels, yes :) |
| 10:29:28 | kurzhaarrocker | So Linus isn't the only fish murderer in the contactor team? |
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| 10:31:04 | Zagor | linus is the head sillstrypare in the team :) |
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| 11:17:40 | LinusN | it's maquerel, not herring :-) |
| 11:17:54 | Bagder | aha, a log reader! |
| 10:18:33 | LinusN | "my nipples are burning with desire" |
| 10:18:46 | Zagor | exploding with delight! |
| 10:18:59 | Bagder | "don't they also build bridges out of stone?" |
| 10:19:07 | LinusN | i got a 140 PCB yesterday |
| 10:19:15 | Bagder | nice |
| 10:19:25 | LinusN | "a witch! a witch!" |
| 10:19:51 | LinusN | and a broken remote |
| 10:20:13 | * | LinusN collects junk nowadays |
| 10:22:02 | Zagor | can you see any difference vs the 120? |
| 10:22:18 | Bagder | I have some garbage from my garden, can I send it to you as well? ;-P |
| 10:22:25 | LinusN | i see no difference at all |
| 10:22:35 | LinusN | Bagder: sure, bring it on :-) |
| 10:22:53 | LinusN | Bagder: there is (was?) a firewall project called Rockbox as well |
| 10:23:12 | Bagder | its a wiki, you add ;-) |
| 10:23:20 | Zagor | LinusN: does it say ihp-120 or 140 on the pcb (just below the screen)? |
| 10:24:52 | Bagder | http://www.canyoufeelthis.com/ |
| 10:25:20 | Bagder | "rockbox is a five piece band from New Orleans LA" |
| 10:27:34 | amiconn | Bagder/ Zagor/ LinusN: Any tests with the extended installer files yet? matsl did a Swedish translation meanwhile; I have updated the files on my hp to include it as well. |
| 10:27:49 | Zagor | i haven't tried it yet |
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| 10:29:46 | kurzhaarrocker | Wanted: daring, subversive code police officer to investigate the triggered recording patch and commit it anyway. |
| 10:30:13 | Zagor | :) |
| 10:30:55 | Bagder | ok, 7(!) other rockbox projects identified |
| 10:31:01 | LinusN | Zagor: good point, it says "iHP-120" :-) |
| 10:31:02 | Bagder | no firewall though |
| 10:31:21 | Zagor | LinusN: goodie |
| 10:33:14 | LinusN | so, should we get rid of the current F3 screen and replace it with a context menu? |
| 10:33:27 | Bagder | I think we should |
| 10:33:30 | Zagor | yeah |
| 10:34:04 | LinusN | that way we could have an "open with..." in the wps, for (for example) the "add to favorites" plugin |
| 10:34:15 | Bagder | aaaah |
| 10:34:20 | Bagder | goodness |
| 10:35:15 | * | LinusN starts emacs |
| 10:38:27 | LinusN | what about the "flip" option, which is in the F3 screen today? |
| 10:38:36 | LinusN | it should be easily reached imho |
| 10:38:59 | LinusN | keep it as an option in the menu? |
| 10:39:19 | Bagder | try that |
| 10:39:52 | Zagor | i doubt many people use it |
| 10:40:32 | LinusN | yes, but it's the kind od option you might change all the time |
| 10:41:22 | amiconn | LinusN: The filp option is in the display settings anyway. If somebody uses this more often, he/she would have that in a .cfg file anyway (that's the way I set the options that need frequent change) |
| 10:41:31 | dwihno | Let's move sound settings to the top position instead of bookmaking :) ? |
| 10:41:39 | LinusN | agreed |
| 10:41:49 | amiconn | dwihno the bookmaker ;-) |
| 10:43:49 | Zagor | we can move lots of things around once we get proper context menus. both sound settings and bookmarks are primarily things you use from wps |
| 10:44:11 | LinusN | absolutely |
| 10:44:13 | dwihno | ;) |
| 10:44:32 | LinusN | can you see a problem using hold-play to reach it in the wps? |
| 10:44:48 | LinusN | (thinking about player/ondio) |
| 10:44:53 | dwihno | Context menus should be reachable using one hand |
| 10:45:00 | LinusN | yes |
| 10:45:34 | Zagor | I don't see a problem with that |
| 10:46:56 | amiconn | Zagor: There is a problem |
| 10:47:15 | amiconn | Holding Right (equal to Play for Ondio) is ffw |
| 10:47:37 | LinusN | amiconn: can you think of another way? |
| 10:48:03 | Zagor | well frankly I don't see how we can add the context menu to ondio at all. we can barely fit the current wps features. |
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| 10:54:51 | kurzhaarrocker | Btw: does anybody know c++ here? I want a class to contain a reference as a member variable. How do I initialize that? |
| 10:55:02 | kurzhaarrocker | (not for rockbox code of course) |
| 10:55:19 | amiconn | LinusN: all short+long presses are taken in the Ondio wps :( |
| 10:55:45 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: the constructor? |
| 10:55:55 | LinusN | amiconn: :-( |
| 10:56:13 | kurzhaarrocker | yes but what syntax. It seems it must be done in the initializer list of the constructor somehow. |
| 10:56:19 | Zagor | i think we have to live with the ondio not having all gui features of the other players |
| 10:58:22 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: you can have an argument to the constructor |
| 10:59:09 | LinusN | i assume the object it refers to is unknown at compile time |
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| 11:00:09 | kurzhaarrocker | Yes, I have that parameter. But when I try to assign that parameter to the member variable in the body of the constructor the compiler complains that it should be done in the initializer list of the constructor. |
| 11:01:04 | LinusN | i'm no c++ guru, but if the compiler says so, then you should probably do it :-) |
| 11:01:28 | kurzhaarrocker | I simply don't know the syntax of how to do it :( |
| 11:01:47 | Zagor | constructor(params) : variable(value) |
| 11:02:24 | LinusN | myclass::myclass(int *bla) : m_bla(bla) { ... } |
| 11:02:31 | LinusN | methinks |
| 11:03:32 | kurzhaarrocker | The problem is that with variable(value) it seaches for an constructor to create that variable. But I simply want to assign to that member variable. |
| 11:04:17 | Zagor | of course it searches for a constructor, all declarations do that. but since it doesn't find a constructor it will just assign it. |
| 11:05:43 | Zagor | or are you saying your compiler complains about it? |
| 11:05:48 | * | kurzhaarrocker tries again |
| 11:11:10 | kurzhaarrocker | Works. Thanks. I could have sworn that I tried that before. |
| 11:11:10 | * | kurzhaarrocker stupid |
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| 11:20:07 | LinusN | i wonder if we should have a special handling for the "open with" for the wps, since it only uses audio filetypes |
| 11:20:39 | LinusN | maybe have another viewers.txt-ish file |
| 11:21:42 | LinusN | today, the only wps-callable viewer is favorites.rock |
| 11:22:20 | Zagor | splitedit? |
| 11:22:26 | LinusN | ah |
| 11:24:17 | amiconn | LinusN: a propos viewers.txt. This concept broke the individual icon display for the dynamic file types on the player... |
| 11:24:39 | LinusN | oh? |
| 11:24:55 | * | LinusN runs to his sick kid |
| 11:25:32 | Zagor | lunch |
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| 15:09:37 | kurzhaarrocker | Oh, LinusN, I nearly forgot: I encountered another broken recording. Do you want the file? |
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| 15:19:16 | kurzhaarrocker | (poor LinusN seems to be very busy tending sick kids) |
| 15:23:04 | kurzhaarrocker | funny: the feature freeze seems to have worked in reverse. Before V2.3 there were numerous commits, but afterwards it stagnates. |
| 15:23:38 | Zagor | :) |
| 15:24:52 | amiconn | kurzhaarrocker: It was a feature freeze, not a commit freeze |
| 15:25:09 | amiconn | There were numerous button bugs to fix. |
| 15:27:58 | kurzhaarrocker | I know. But normally I'd expect that you get feature freeze -> feature dew -> feature bloat |
| 15:28:39 | Zagor | we were away thursday-sunday too |
| 15:28:42 | amiconn | Maybe the server unavailability frightened the developers |
| 15:30:04 | kurzhaarrocker | Does that mean you didn't do anything when you were away, Zagor? :o |
| 15:30:04 | kurzhaarrocker | amiconn: that's something else, that's server freeze. |
| 15:33:42 | amiconn | kurzhaarrocker: I was busy adapting the installer (okay, I *could* have done more than that) |
| 15:53:58 | Zagor | kurzhaarrocker: i wish i had brought a laptop, since it was raining the entire time. but i didn't. |
| 15:54:55 | kurzhaarrocker | Hm. Is rain good for luring eels? |
| 15:57:32 | Zagor | lol |
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| 16:26:36 | amiconn | Regarding features: I'd like to change the total/free space display (in rockbox info) to dynamically adapt the decimal point & unit. However this either requires several new .lang entries for strings & voice (and deprecating the old ones), or if there shouldn't be too many deprecated entries, the changes would not be backwards compatible. |
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| 16:30:03 | amiconn | I wonder which way would be better... |
| 16:37:22 | kurzhaarrocker | Maybe we can keep backwards compatibility till V2.4 |
| 16:58:25 | Zagor | amiconn: new lang entries are ok. we don't have to deprecate the old ones yet imho. |
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| 17:04:41 | amiconn | Zagor: Currently, there are LANG_DISK_FREE_STAT, LANG_DISK_STAT, which both include the unit and the decimal point, and VOICE_POINT for voicing the decimal point. For the adaptive display, I'd need 2 LANG_ entries having a %s in place of the number, the decimal point and the unit "multiplicator" (K/M/G), and a LANG_ entry for the decimal point that is both usable for voiceing and display (e.g. English uses ".", German uses ",") |
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| 20:03:19 | Alex | I'm looking to help development on RockBox, but haven't really done anything like this before... Any stuff I should read up on before start to cry as I look at the code? |
| 20:05:54 | Alex | (ordering my ihp 140 iriver tonight :D) |
| 20:07:51 | dwihno | rockbox doesn't work on the iriver platforms yet... |
| 20:08:01 | Alex | Yeah, I know ;) |
| 20:08:07 | Alex | That's why I'm looking to help ;) |
| 20:08:09 | dwihno | You're an optimist? :) |
| 20:08:19 | Alex | You don't think it will work? |
| 20:08:44 | Alex | it seems to be coming along quite nicely to me, isn't it? |
| 20:08:57 | Alex | I hope so because I've just sold my MD player ;) |
| 20:09:37 | dwihno | Considering the Haxx guys (Linus, Daniel, Björn, Kjell) I think they can do anything they put their minds to. |
| 20:09:38 | Alex | (but, yeah, I am normally an optimist) |
| 20:10:02 | Alex | :D good, good. It was Rockbox that made me choose an iRiver ;) |
| 20:10:25 | dwihno | The only reason I haven't gotten an iriver yet is my lack of funds ;) |
| 20:10:53 | dwihno | To be honest, I do keep a great amount of respect for the core team. |
| 20:10:55 | Alex | :) |
| 20:12:58 | Alex | BTW, (to all:) I'm currently setting up a little site which lets people buy stuff from amazon.co.uk through a refferal. All funds generated will be donated to rockbox. I stick a link here once there's a vaguely usable test page up ;) |
| 20:14:58 | Alex | (as I said, I wanted to help ;D) |
| 20:16:46 | dwihno | Really kind of you |
| 20:17:24 | Alex | heh I just hope it does actually get something ;) |
| 20:20:00 | Plugh | Alex: you should have the referral link added to the project home page |
| 20:20:28 | Alex | the rockbox page? |
| 20:20:33 | Plugh | yeah |
| 20:20:51 | Alex | (btw: a little beta is at http://www.beverleychilcott.co.uk/cstg/newindex.php) |
| 20:20:54 | Alex | could do actually |
| 20:22:22 | Alex | (i'm working on that now so don't be surprised if things stop working ;D) |
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