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#rockbox log for 2004-11-11

00:00:27amiconn[IDC]Dragon: I have to check again whether my lcd init really works. I just found that the lcd controller holds data really long after box powerdown, so it may keep the initialized state as well...
00:00:51[IDC]Dragonlike the dram
00:01:22amiconnI don't know how long the DRAM holds the data. The lcd controller does it for several *minutes* (> 5)
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00:03:04[IDC]DragonLinus said the DRAM holds it long enough to be very confusing, a minute or so
00:04:34amiconnIt's funny: I power down the box. After some minutes, I power on again (the normal way). I can see the display content from before powerdown until the archos loader overwrites it
00:06:31amiconnIt does not do this when I remove power completely (disconnect from the terminal), but only when powered down by software/ STOP button
00:10:12amiconnOoooops! I broke the sims...
00:10:47amiconn...hmm, it seems that it wasn't me.
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00:11:29amiconnObviously there is something wrong with the build environment on the server
00:11:35amiconnBagder!
00:14:15[IDC]Dragona new record!
00:14:56amiconnIt wasn't me. Obviously some X11 includes are not found
00:15:25amiconnAnd it's no new record iirc
00:17:05amiconn[IDC]Dragon: Did you try uart_boot with 38400 baud on the Ondio?
00:17:39amiconnlcd init really works, phew
00:17:54[IDC]DragonOndio: not yet
00:18:20[IDC]Dragonthe bootloader does 14400 now
00:18:34amiconnI really suggest 38400 as the default for player alikes, if it works for Ondio too. Even that is rather slow...
00:18:47[IDC]Dragonthat's what I've been using most of the time
00:19:01[IDC]Dragonreal uart_boot was only once
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00:19:19amiconn[IDC]Dragon: 14400 is also not compatible with gdb.
00:19:24LinusNi have installed the missing x11 stuff
00:19:44amiconnAh, nice. Did you try building again?
00:19:50[IDC]DragonHi! why missing?
00:20:04[IDC]Dragonserver disk?
00:20:17LinusNbecause we forgot to install them after the server disk change
00:20:29amiconnLinusN: There is another problem, probably wrong rights:
00:20:30[IDC]DragonI suspected
00:20:30LinusNit's a total reinstall
00:20:41[IDC]Dragonurgh
00:20:54LinusNthe old system was redhat 7, now it's debian unstable
00:21:39amiconnLinusN: I created a new wiki page, which I could save and re-edit fine. However, I tried editing DocsIndex. That doesn't work! I don't get an error while saving, but the changed content doesn't show up
00:22:06LinusNok
00:22:43LinusNit's locked by you
00:22:51amiconnHuh?
00:23:00*amiconn tries to unlock
00:23:06LinusNthe lock stays for 30 minutes
00:23:39amiconnShould be unlocked now (if that worked)
00:25:20LinusNhmm, i can edit it
00:26:05amiconnStrange. I wanted to change the link for CPU port pin assignments - it didn't work
00:26:46*amiconn did his job and moved this to the wiki
00:28:12LinusNsaw that. impressive
00:29:31[IDC]Dragonwhich one are you talking about? Jens did so many impressive things.
00:30:03amiconnActually, this was just a couple of minutes. Copy & paste into editor and do some replace magic. Some additional hand brush-up.
00:30:43amiconn[IDC]Dragon: I converted the CPU port pin table into a wiki page
00:30:53amiconn(Ondio not yet added)
00:31:10[IDC]Dragonah, now it appears to me, that wasn't wiki before
00:31:52*amiconn tries to edit DocsIndex again
00:32:21[IDC]Dragonplease link the wiki flash page, while you're there
00:32:48[IDC]Dragonit currenly points an old web page
00:32:56[IDC]Dragonpoints to
00:33:06LinusNwhich one?
00:33:16*[IDC]Dragon checks
00:33:44amiconnLinusN: This time it worked, strange.
00:33:59[IDC]Dragonoh, no, the front links seem ok
00:34:12[IDC]Dragonsomebody must have had a deep link
00:36:31amiconnLinusN: Any chance to do an uart boot test on the old player soon? The code is already there (not yet committed because of that)
00:37:47[IDC]Dragonhow about a warm boot test first?
00:38:11[IDC]Dragonif that doesn't disturb, you can commit it
00:38:35LinusNexactly
00:39:23amiconnI want to know whether to commit the simplified, rockbox-like version or the archos look-alike for the old lcd.
00:39:48LinusNsend me the patch
00:44:21amiconnLinusN: Sent. There is an #if 1 ... #else ... #endif part that selects between archos look-alike code and simplified code for the old lcd.
00:47:19amiconnIirc, the ATA power on patch is not needed for the old player
00:47:29LinusNtrue
00:56:21LinusNthe #if 1 version works fine
00:56:50LinusNthat's the bulky archos code, right?
00:57:02amiconnyes.
00:57:17amiconn(as the comment beneath says)
00:58:32LinusNthe rockbox version works fine as well
00:59:43amiconnWell, at least it "works fine" in the sense of not disturbing, leaving the question whether it actually does its work on cold boot.
00:59:57LinusNthat's another story :-)
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01:00:54amiconnAt least this allows me to commit the stuff (and I'll switch it over before, having the rockbox version in #if 1)
01:02:32LinusNgood
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07:53:47amiconnGood morning
07:54:08amiconnLinusN: Two more problems with the weibsite :(
07:54:39amiconn(1) When I try to update the wiki web statistics, it says that it did so. But the values don't change
07:54:53amiconn(2) The windows installer is not built
07:58:55LinusNwindows installer...
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08:01:04LinusNamiconn: i guess there are no UCL files in the daily builds either?
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08:02:37amiconnIndeed....
08:04:30LinusNthe special rombox ucl packer is not installed here
08:06:11amiconnBut it was there before the server update ?!? And even if it is not, there should be rockbox.ucl at least...
08:08:17LinusNin fact, there is no ucl packer at all
08:08:35LinusNremember, we made a complete reinstall of the system disk
08:09:18LinusNso, do you know where i can find the rombox version of the ucl packer source?
08:09:27amiconnAhem , wiki?
08:10:22amiconnhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RomBox#Build_your_own
08:11:55LinusNnice
08:18:55LinusNrebuilding the daily builds...
08:19:39amiconn(gotta run)
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10:26:41Bagdergrrr
10:26:54BagderZagor: crappy cvs warnings appear, no commit mails are sent
10:26:55*kurzhaarrocker gives Bagder a bone
10:27:20Zagorchecking
10:28:05BagderI'm seeing this on the curl repo
10:29:19Bagderthere's a path prob in 'syncmail'
10:29:24Zagoraha
10:29:28Bagderbut when fixed, I get segfaults instead
10:30:04Zagorthere's a packaged syncmail, maybe we should try that instead
10:30:20Bagderaha, we should probably try that
10:30:31Bagderthe cvs warning appears when you commit
10:30:43Zagorok
10:30:43Bagder"warning: Set to use deprecated info format strings." (blablabla)
10:31:50Zagortry using /usr/bin/syncmail instead
10:32:16Zagori'll fix for rockbox
10:33:05*LinusN had to install X and reconfigure wine to make the installer build work
10:33:36Zagoryeah
10:34:44ZagorBagder: remember to remove -U from loginfo
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10:35:10Bagderah
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10:41:17Zagorworks now
10:41:55Zagorbut it doesn't say who changed it. hmm...
10:42:00Bagderbut no user
10:42:26BagderZagor: did you get the warning?
10:42:37Zagoryes, until i changed CVSROOT/config
10:46:07Bagderthat last one got really messed up
10:46:11Zagoryeah...
10:46:21Bagderdid you fix the %-usage?
10:46:37Bagder%1{sVv}
10:46:46Zagorah, no
10:47:39Bagderwe can use -S
10:47:44Bagder"Provide a string that is pre-pended to the subject"
10:47:53Bagder-S "$USER"
10:48:06Zagorgood catch
10:52:01Bagderyes, -S is goodness
10:52:13Bagder"-S$USER: "
10:54:58Zagornow I get the '1' warning...
10:55:12Bagderyes
10:55:26BagderI believe the 1 should not be there when the new format is used
10:55:38Bagderit is not entirely clear to me
10:58:19Zagorhttp://computing.ee.ethz.ch/sepp/cvs-1.12.7-ds/cvs/cvs_103.html#SEC166
10:58:27Zagorgives some clues, but not all...
10:59:44Bagderso I guess the 1 goes
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11:00:02Zagorthen you get the version mail error
11:00:23Zagorwe can't get rid of warnings until we use the new format
11:00:36Zagor...which is non-obvious
11:01:00Bagderwell, I use the new format in curl now and I get a warning, which I believe is because I use the 1
11:01:22Zagori mean the new % argument format
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11:04:17Bagderpossibly the %{sVv} could be within quotes
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15:50:26amiconnLinusN: There's still no current windows installer on the daily builds page, and the wiki statistics page does also not update.
15:52:17LinusNah, forgot to copy the installer exe to the download dir
15:52:21LinusNfixed now
15:52:38LinusNhaven't had time to look at the stats
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15:54:54Zagori'll look at the stats
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16:03:01Zagoraha, the log file had wrong owner. fixed now.
16:09:37kurzhaarrockerDo you know how old that broken server hard disk was?
16:10:04Zagori'm not sure, but I think it was from the 90s
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16:13:25kurzhaarrockerHm. Warranty will be over then.
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22:38:21Digital007hi
22:39:13Bagderhi
22:40:50Digital007hi Bagder
22:41:14Digital007If the iriver is software driven, how much RAM is needed for the firmmware code?
22:41:32Bagderno one knows
22:41:37midkdepends on the size of the firmware, no?
22:41:52Digital007i know the specs show 32mb ram, but i wonder how much of that is taken for the FW code
22:42:09Bagdercode, fonts, pictures, texts, bla bla
22:42:10midka set amount, likely 16mb
22:42:22Digital007possibly
22:42:33Digital007and probably a huge amount is needed for ogg playback
22:43:27Digital007shame the iriver doesn't play DRM WMA files
22:44:35Bagderrockbox is not the iriver fw anyway
22:45:11Digital007what do u mean bagder?
22:46:16Bagderwhat iriver plays is not very interesting, we need to add support for all formats we want to play
22:46:37Digital007i'd love to see AAC, MP3Pro and ATRAC3
22:46:47Digital007AIFF would be good as well
22:46:52Stryke`proprietary, no?
22:47:08Stryke`MP3Pro and ATRAC3
22:48:01Digital007MP3Pro is a high-quality codec
22:48:05Digital007better than WMA
22:49:28Stryke`I think the decoder needs to be purchased
22:49:36Stryke`and that doesn't come cheap
22:50:39Digital007Stryke the iriver's decoding algorithms are software, not hardware
22:51:01Stryke`MP3Pro is hardly high-quality, its just low bitrate MP3 with SBR
22:51:12Bagdersoftware can be purchased too
22:53:24Digital007well im sure someone could programme, say an ATRAC3 decoder on rockbox
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23:37:02Digital007Suipport for Monkeys Audio would be good
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23:45:07Digital007hi linus
23:45:16LinusNyo
23:46:00Digital007we need random on the iriver soon
23:46:17LinusNyou mean you need rockbox?
23:46:30Digital007yea
23:47:28Digital007why, why, why does the iriver play songs in the same order when set to shuffle
23:47:49LinusNprobably because they use the same seed every time
23:48:01LinusNjust a guess
23:48:39Digital007i work around it by making playlists and manually shuffling them in WinAmp
23:48:53LinusNthat sucks
23:49:36Digital007better than nothing
23:49:55LinusNi mean it sucks to be forced to do it like that
23:50:04Digital007hopefully rockbox will have the same good shuffling as the archos rockbox
23:50:49LinusNit will have the exact same
23:51:12LinusNno need to do it differently on the iriver
23:51:47Digital007yea but the iriver control layout is totally different
23:51:53Digital007will it have the plugins?
23:51:59LinusNthe buttons you mean?
23:52:27LinusNit will have everything that the archos models have, if the hardware permits it
23:52:31Digital007ok
23:52:35Digital007timestretch would be good
23:52:35Digital007:)
23:52:43LinusNwould be cool indeed
23:52:47LinusNand very possible
23:52:52Digital007:)
23:53:01Digital007when u think the first release will be?
23:53:23LinusNwhen it's ready
23:53:32LinusNnot this year
23:53:34Digital007ok
23:53:35Digital007:(
23:53:47Digital007gotta keep bagdering iriver for decent f/w
23:53:59LinusNdon't hold your breath
23:54:05Digital007lol
23:54:09Digital007The HW is good though
23:54:14LinusNyup
23:54:18Digital007i like the screen, remote and feel of the device
23:54:30LinusNi don't like the joystick
23:54:33LinusNslippery
23:54:54Digital007ok for me
23:55:14Digital007On the iriver f/w the volume also alters the line-out as well as the headphone out
23:55:26Digital007i thought the line-out is at a fixed level
23:56:00LinusNis there a line-out?
23:56:23LinusNi only see s/pdif in/out and headphone
23:56:39Digital007there is a line out
23:56:43Digital007its on the spdif out
23:56:46Digital007shared socket
23:56:53LinusNaha
23:57:11Digital007likewise the spdif in/line in is on a shared port
23:57:21LinusNsilly me, of course
23:57:30Digital007yep, silly you
23:57:30Digital007:)

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