| 00:00:07 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: player image emailed. |
| 00:01:14 | [IDC]Dragon | those are so small, no need for compression |
| 00:01:32 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Your image versions are a bit off (and of course the image versions are often different from the ROM versions) |
| 00:02:25 | [IDC]Dragon | I probably took the number which people saw in the greet message |
| 00:03:02 | amiconn | Not always... What you labeled 5.06 is a 5.06 rom with a 5.08 image (looks like mine) |
| 00:03:21 | [IDC]Dragon | sloppy collection |
| 00:03:24 | amiconn | Your 5.05 version is a 5.03 rom with a 5.05 image |
| 00:03:32 | amiconn | Your 5.03 version is a 5.03 rom with a 5.06 image |
| 00:04:03 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll rename mine locally, thanks |
| 00:04:29 | amiconn | Your 4.09 version is a 4.07 rom with a 4.09 image |
| 00:05:37 | amiconn | Your 3.18 version is a 0.00 rom (!!) with a 3.18 image |
| 00:06:43 | [IDC]Dragon | and the 4.53? |
| 00:06:59 | amiconn | The 4.53 has everything identical |
| 00:07:25 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, one duplicate, one renamed |
| 00:07:35 | amiconn | No duplicate... |
| 00:07:56 | [IDC]Dragon | 5.06 and 5.08 (not sent) |
| 00:08:02 | amiconn | Ah ok |
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| 00:08:51 | amiconn | I'm a bit puzzled about the 0.00 rom version... |
| 00:09:31 | [IDC]Dragon | the oldest, perhaps before they started versioning? |
| 00:10:15 | LinusN | roloing 5.08 works fine |
| 00:10:41 | [IDC]Dragon | any new features in there? |
| 00:10:45 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
| 00:11:07 | amiconn | LinusN: Nice :) |
| 00:11:54 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I think so... |
| 00:12:24 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I get a checksum error when trying to rolo 4.53 |
| 00:12:47 | [IDC]Dragon | oh, strange |
| 00:13:02 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe the extract didn't work? |
| 00:13:06 | amiconn | In fact I get a checksum error with all flash extracted versions ??? |
| 00:13:31 | [IDC]Dragon | they may not have one |
| 00:13:43 | * | [IDC]Dragon looks into extract |
| 00:14:04 | amiconn | But why did it work for Linus then? |
| 00:14:25 | [IDC]Dragon | he scrambled the .bin |
| 00:14:43 | amiconn | Ah-hah. I could try this as well |
| 00:14:45 | [IDC]Dragon | I had no .mod kept |
| 00:15:05 | amiconn | Maybe extract doesn't write a checksum |
| 00:15:33 | [IDC]Dragon | it does, but maybe there's a bug |
| 00:17:14 | LinusN | gotta sleep, cu guys |
| 00:17:15 | amiconn | Offset 4 and 5 look different in the extracted vs. descrambled abd rescrambled versions |
| 00:17:21 | amiconn | Nite LinusN |
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| 00:17:40 | [IDC]Dragon | how much different? |
| 00:18:12 | amiconn | Extracted 5.08: 55 9A Rescrambled: C7 FB |
| 00:18:32 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, looks completely different |
| 00:24:54 | amiconn | Maybe I found the cause... |
| 00:25:33 | amiconn | Look into extract.c, line 119. You use Write32, however the checksum is 16 bits... |
| 00:25:54 | [IDC]Dragon | that's a dirty trick |
| 00:26:12 | [IDC]Dragon | I also write it 2 bytes too early |
| 00:26:43 | [IDC]Dragon | to have the lower 16 bit where needed |
| 00:26:48 | amiconn | Ah, I see. STill this looks weird to me |
| 00:27:43 | [IDC]Dragon | just ran it again on 5.08, I get a checksum of 0x559A |
| 00:29:01 | [IDC]Dragon | like above, ok |
| 00:29:19 | amiconn | Yes, same as me, the not working one. However scramble produces 0xC7FB, which is working |
| 00:29:45 | amiconn | ..but shuts the player down while boot. Funny, but logical (I was not holding On) |
| 00:30:23 | amiconn | When holding On it works |
| 00:33:12 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, the checksum is over the unscrambled content |
| 00:33:49 | amiconn | Funny... My box says Jukebox 6GB when rolo'ing 4.53! |
| 00:35:44 | amiconn | Apart from that it is working (but cumbersome) |
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| 00:40:13 | [IDC]Dragon | I tried the data descramble within extract, but still get different results |
| 00:42:35 | amiconn | Is uiSize always a multiple of 4? |
| 00:42:58 | [IDC]Dragon | I think so |
| 00:43:21 | amiconn | In scramble.c it is enforced to be |
| 00:43:51 | [IDC]Dragon | in 5.08, it is |
| 00:45:21 | [IDC]Dragon | I now used the data descrambling formula in the checksum, the address order shoudn't matter |
| 00:47:19 | amiconn | Do you get BF 54 now? |
| 00:51:59 | amiconn | ARgh, I was wrong :( |
| 00:53:41 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Now it works... with the descramble data munging |
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| 01:04:54 | [IDC]Dragon | why doesn't it work here? |
| 01:05:19 | amiconn | I dunno... I just used the descramble formula, as verbatim as possible |
| 01:05:50 | [IDC]Dragon | ~((data >> 1) | ((data << 7) & 0x80)) |
| 01:05:50 | amiconn | UINT8 byte; |
| 01:05:50 | amiconn | byte = aImage[uiStart + i]; |
| 01:05:50 | amiconn | byte = ~((byte >> 1) | ((byte << 7) & 0x80)); /* poor man's ROR */ |
| 01:05:50 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK amiconn |
| 01:05:50 | amiconn | usChecksum += byte; |
| 01:06:38 | amiconn | You can't directly add the result to the checksum, it has to be cut to 8 bit width first |
| 01:06:46 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
| 01:07:09 | amiconn | The data<<7 produces a total of 15 bits... |
| 01:07:42 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, works |
| 01:08:54 | amiconn | Although it should also work directly, because of the & 0x80 (?!) Strange... |
| 01:11:39 | [IDC]Dragon | change committed, thanks |
| 01:12:12 | [IDC]Dragon | I stop thinking and go to bed |
| 01:12:19 | [IDC]Dragon | cu |
| 01:12:20 | amiconn | Okay. Nite |
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| 08:36:00 | unclearthought | any one in here who can help me out |
| 08:36:09 | LinusN | perhaps |
| 08:36:14 | midk | depends, what's the problem? |
| 08:36:26 | unclearthought | im a friend of adimias |
| 08:36:35 | unclearthought | i have an archos fm 20 |
| 08:36:44 | midk | i'm -> bed, nite |
| 08:36:48 | unclearthought | but im having a problem getting rockbox to work |
| 08:36:57 | unclearthought | saw on the website to come here |
| 08:37:08 | unclearthought | wondering if you would be able to help me load it on |
| 08:37:11 | unclearthought | if not i understand |
| 08:37:40 | dwihno | 1) get the correct zip file 2) unzip it to the root of your archos unit 3) reboot the unit 4) presto! \o/ |
| 08:37:54 | midk | \0/ |
| 08:37:57 | unclearthought | the menu didnt chage at all though |
| 08:37:57 | dwihno | Presto sounds like something a magician would say |
| 08:37:58 | midk | \()/ |
| 08:38:03 | midk | \></ |
| 08:38:06 | dwihno | Why do I get the munchies for pasta with pesto? |
| 08:38:08 | midk | ^ explosion of a head |
| 08:38:35 | LinusN | unclearthought: you mean it still runs the original firmware? |
| 08:38:39 | unclearthought | yes |
| 08:38:48 | LinusN | have you tried the windows installer? |
| 08:38:56 | unclearthought | ?? havnt seen it |
| 08:39:05 | unclearthought | is there a website you can point me to please |
| 08:39:06 | dwihno | ah |
| 08:39:09 | LinusN | under "downloads" |
| 08:39:12 | dwihno | forgot about the windows installer :) |
| 08:39:20 | dwihno | me senile |
| 08:39:22 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/download |
| 08:39:49 | unclearthought | that should take care of it |
| 08:39:55 | LinusN | hopefully |
| 08:40:10 | LinusN | try it, and let us know if it worked |
| 08:40:11 | unclearthought | thank you guys... i know im prob a waste of your time.. but it means alot |
| 08:40:17 | unclearthought | i will im going to do it right now |
| 08:40:23 | LinusN | gr8 |
| 08:43:18 | unclearthought | LinusN you rock |
| 08:43:22 | unclearthought | thank you very much |
| 08:43:53 | unclearthought | adiamas said you guys are really cool |
| 08:43:57 | unclearthought | thank you so much |
| 08:44:02 | unclearthought | greatly appreaciated |
| 08:44:53 | unclearthought | have a good night guys..... |
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| 08:45:22 | LinusN | i'm cool, and i rock! |
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| 08:57:09 | LinusN | moo |
| 08:58:21 | dwihno | Oh no! The COW! :O |
| 08:59:24 | LinusN | MOOOOO |
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| 10:23:45 | [av]bani | linusn -> saw the news on ata, congratulations :)) |
| 10:25:41 | LinusN | thx |
| 10:26:39 | [av]bani | stock iriver flash is unpacked into ram before running right? |
| 10:26:46 | LinusN | yes |
| 10:27:13 | [av]bani | so it really should be possible to make a bootstrap which can load either stock or iriver-cvs off disk right? |
| 10:27:25 | [av]bani | for somewhat risk-free development |
| 10:27:30 | [av]bani | for those without a bdm |
| 10:28:08 | LinusN | the plan is to initially keep the iriver fw in flash and point the reset vector to a bootloader |
| 10:28:28 | LinusN | which either loads rockbox from disk or the original from flash |
| 10:28:43 | [av]bani | hm, how would you manage that? |
| 10:28:57 | LinusN | i change the reset vector |
| 10:29:08 | [av]bani | i mean, how would end users manage it |
| 10:29:26 | [av]bani | or devs-without-a-bdm |
| 10:29:47 | LinusN | they program their flash with a modified version, which includes the boot loader |
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| 10:29:53 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 10:29:57 | LinusN | hi |
| 10:30:07 | Bagder | hi ho quelsaruk |
| 10:30:20 | [av]bani | so stock iriver has a bootstrap that can be replaced? |
| 10:30:23 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 10:30:23 | * | quelsaruk looks around |
| 10:30:26 | quelsaruk | who, me? |
| 10:30:27 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 10:30:45 | LinusN | [av]bani: when updating the firmware, the entire flash contents is replaced |
| 10:31:13 | [av]bani | or you mean something like you push the stock firmware up a bit to make space for the bootloader |
| 10:31:33 | quelsaruk | hmmm.. chendo, that was a really nice soccer player from Real Madrid :) good nickname :D |
| 10:31:53 | chendo | well, i had no idea who he is until i bothered looking on the net :p |
| 10:31:58 | LinusN | [av]bani: of course not |
| 10:32:00 | chendo | i had my nick since when i was 10 :p |
| 10:32:12 | quelsaruk | :P |
| 10:32:25 | LinusN | i put the boot loader in the free space in the end of the flash, and point the reset vector to it |
| 10:32:59 | [av]bani | how much free space is there :() |
| 10:33:14 | LinusN | i dunno... :-) |
| 10:33:25 | [av]bani | and if theres "not enough" ? |
| 10:33:34 | LinusN | then we have plan B |
| 10:33:41 | [av]bani | plan B is good |
| 10:33:48 | [av]bani | what is it :) |
| 10:33:49 | LinusN | which is to compress the original |
| 10:34:05 | LinusN | or plan C |
| 10:34:28 | LinusN | which is to use PaulS's method and patch the original to do the loading |
| 10:34:44 | LinusN | i prefer plan A though :-) |
| 10:34:50 | quelsaruk | i would use plan B |
| 10:34:56 | [av]bani | patch the original.. scary |
| 10:34:59 | quelsaruk | or A |
| 10:35:17 | quelsaruk | always having a copy of old firmware just in case rockbox goes mad |
| 10:35:33 | LinusN | yeah, that's the least intrusive way |
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| 10:36:59 | [av]bani | well really something like a 'failsafe-bootstrap' rom would be my preference :) |
| 10:37:17 | [av]bani | loads a firmware from disk, and it can be anything −− stock or rockbox |
| 10:37:46 | Bagder | since the original doesn't do that, we need to make one that does it |
| 10:37:48 | LinusN | you mean remove the original from flash and only have a boot loader there? |
| 10:37:56 | [av]bani | yes, at least for initial development |
| 10:38:13 | LinusN | and what would you do if the boot loader fails to load the firmware? |
| 10:38:15 | Bagder | keeping the original around if very good for safety |
| 10:38:21 | Bagder | is very |
| 10:38:31 | [av]bani | linus, youd have to make very very sure the boot loader doesnt fail :) |
| 10:38:43 | [av]bani | but if its simple enough... |
| 10:38:50 | LinusN | it is much safer to keep the original in flash |
| 10:39:04 | LinusN | then we won't depend on the boot loader |
| 10:39:08 | [av]bani | well, a modified original to be sure |
| 10:39:16 | LinusN | not modified |
| 10:39:23 | LinusN | only a different reset vector |
| 10:39:42 | [av]bani | how does the iriver reset? you mean the pinhole port? |
| 10:39:50 | Zagor | hmm, even with $40 shipping and VAT added, it's much cheaper buying 140s from US than europe... |
| 10:39:59 | LinusN | the boot loader then jumps to the original if a button isn't pushed |
| 10:40:12 | Bagder | Zagor: but you get a crappy charger... |
| 10:40:20 | [av]bani | ah, when its turned on... |
| 10:40:24 | LinusN | of course |
| 10:40:26 | [av]bani | well |
| 10:40:30 | [av]bani | what if _that_ fails? |
| 10:40:43 | LinusN | then we're out of luck |
| 10:40:49 | Zagor | Bagder: true |
| 10:40:59 | LinusN | but that is roughly 10-15 asm instructions... |
| 10:42:08 | [av]bani | at reset what hardware is in a 'strange' state though? |
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| 10:42:39 | LinusN | all hardware is in an uninitialized state |
| 10:42:48 | [av]bani | if we are thinking about murphys law :)) |
| 10:43:15 | LinusN | but all we need to do is to set the port pin to an input and read the status of the button |
| 10:43:31 | [av]bani | and then branch to code which might or might not work :)) |
| 10:44:11 | LinusN | the boot loader, yes |
| 10:44:16 | [av]bani | so then the question is, is there enough space on the end to put a boot loader in |
| 10:44:21 | [av]bani | which remains to be seen |
| 10:44:41 | LinusN | last time i checked, there were quite a few 0xff's there |
| 10:44:51 | [av]bani | they might serve some purpose :) :( |
| 10:45:23 | Bagder | it is unlikely that they use 100% of the flash |
| 10:45:28 | [av]bani | at least if you blow something up, you have bdm for rescue |
| 10:45:35 | LinusN | very unlikely |
| 10:45:53 | LinusN | resquing via bdm is a quite tedious task |
| 10:46:04 | [av]bani | at least it can be done |
| 10:46:08 | LinusN | yup |
| 10:47:57 | [av]bani | so about encoding, re: my thoughts on that? |
| 10:48:09 | amiconn | LinusN: I'd suggest the same way as on the archos, having a bootloader and then the original firmware in compressed form (could also be ucl). This leaves room for rockbox in flash later |
| 10:48:37 | LinusN | amiconn: of course, but not until we have a stable boot loader |
| 10:48:59 | LinusN | plan A is only temporary, for development |
| 10:49:04 | [av]bani | that its rather unlikely for anyone to get a realtime ogg encoder on a coldfire, so just give the option for users to compress .wav files on the iriver non-realtime |
| 10:49:46 | LinusN | sure, but why encode on the player itself? |
| 10:49:54 | [av]bani | because they might not have access to a PC |
| 10:50:07 | LinusN | ah |
| 10:50:27 | [av]bani | iriver is more portable than say, iriver + laptop... |
| 10:50:28 | Bagder | we have have an ogg-encoder plugin |
| 10:51:03 | [av]bani | why let people delete files on the player itself? same reason |
| 10:51:07 | LinusN | yes, and mp3 as well |
| 10:51:16 | Bagder | I mean "we can have" |
| 10:51:42 | [av]bani | so they can capture eg interviews or something in wav or flac |
| 10:51:48 | [av]bani | then compress later |
| 10:57:50 | LinusN | to free up some space |
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| 11:07:07 | [av]bani | hmmm |
| 11:07:10 | [av]bani | http://studserver.uni-dortmund.de/~su0583/ |
| 11:07:26 | [av]bani | wonder if he would share source :)) |
| 11:10:03 | LinusN | i doubt it |
| 11:11:29 | [av]bani | of course one could just say fuck fraunhofer and only support ogg encoder :)) |
| 11:14:14 | [av]bani | how well does gcc support cf5249? |
| 11:14:29 | [av]bani | any bad suprises while porting :() |
| 11:15:07 | LinusN | well, i had to patch binutils |
| 11:15:41 | LinusN | for the mbar2 and emac registers |
| 11:16:56 | * | Zagor just ordered three ihp-140s |
| 11:17:56 | dwihno | three? :) santa-Zagor is coming to town? |
| 11:18:23 | LinusN | 40Gb isn't enough for him |
| 11:18:28 | Zagor | yeah, i plan to give them to random people on the street :) |
| 11:18:36 | LinusN | so he has three, and switches between the, |
| 11:18:40 | LinusN | them |
| 11:18:51 | Zagor | duct tape rocks |
| 11:18:55 | [av]bani | (): |
| 11:18:58 | LinusN | :-) |
| 11:19:15 | dwihno | :) |
| 11:23:55 | [av]bani | hmm coldfire removed movep instruction :() |
| 11:23:55 | quelsaruk | will santa-zagor come to the south this year? :D |
| 11:25:29 | [av]bani | errr where has ror/rol gone :() |
| 11:27:10 | [av]bani | ahrr |
| 11:28:04 | LinusN | i thought you were familiar with the coldfire |
| 11:28:12 | [av]bani | nope, 68k |
| 11:29:30 | Zagor | lunch |
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| 14:20:40 | Bagder | http://www.blipp.com/gfx/opensource.png |
| 14:27:04 | LinusN | :-) |
| 14:31:15 | ashridah | yeah. communism baby |
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| 14:45:38 | iriverSN | hi, how is with the "lang.h" file? I understand it is removed but it is stilled included. I also get VOICE_EXT_MPA undeclared identifier when compiling under Win32 |
| 14:47:29 | Zagor | first line of lang.h says "This file was automatically generated using genlang" |
| 14:49:53 | iriverSN | I don't have the "lang.h" - it is not in the daily-tar. I did a google search previously and read something about genlang in a previous mailinglist thread... I will try it. |
| 14:50:31 | Zagor | you're not supposed to have it, it is created by the "genlang" utility at compile time |
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| 14:55:10 | dwihno | What is better? Using a glue gun or superduper glue? |
| 14:55:24 | LinusN | for what? |
| 14:55:33 | dwihno | electronics |
| 14:55:42 | LinusN | again, for what? |
| 14:55:59 | LinusN | it all depends on what you are trying to glue |
| 14:56:03 | dwihno | My remote control (TV) has lost one of the battery springs |
| 14:57:09 | LinusN | and you want to fasten it with glue? |
| 14:57:24 | dwihno | yup :) |
| 14:57:32 | dwihno | Glue the spring onto the PCB |
| 14:57:43 | LinusN | but it will need electrical contact, won't it? |
| 14:57:53 | LinusN | use a soldering iron |
| 14:58:00 | dwihno | Let's put it this way. My way, using regular paper tape works :) |
| 14:58:34 | LinusN | well, super glue don't work on flexible parts |
| 14:58:42 | LinusN | use hot glue |
| 14:58:45 | dwihno | ah |
| 14:58:55 | dwihno | I always wanted one of those glue guns! :) |
| 14:59:05 | dwihno | From now on, I'll glue everything! |
| 14:59:08 | LinusN | i have two :-) |
| 14:59:28 | dwihno | is there any difference except the heat level? |
| 14:59:54 | LinusN | there are size differences as well |
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| 15:01:05 | dwihno | guess so |
| 15:01:20 | dwihno | I'll tell you a funny story |
| 15:01:34 | dwihno | I bought an universal remote control for my TV, since I dropped the regular remote one too many times |
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| 15:04:49 | dwihno | Well |
| 15:04:54 | dwihno | it didn't work |
| 15:05:01 | dwihno | (so much for the term "universal") |
| 15:05:17 | dwihno | so I opened up my old remote and managed to fix it using regular office tape! :) |
| 15:07:15 | LinusN | are you sure that you programmed the universal remote correctly? |
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| 15:12:03 | dwihno | Sure am |
| 15:12:21 | dwihno | Most of the models had two or three different codes you could enter. |
| 15:12:33 | dwihno | Hitachi had 20+ |
| 15:12:51 | dwihno | After testing all of them (twice), I tested the "test-all-supported-remotes" function |
| 15:12:55 | dwihno | which had zero success |
| 15:14:09 | LinusN | bad luck |
| 15:14:28 | dwihno | yeah |
| 15:14:42 | dwihno | on the other hand, I got around to bend the old remote open and fix it :) |
| 15:14:48 | dwihno | And that is, after all, a better solution |
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| 16:31:20 | Bagder | http://www.oakley.com/catalog/eyewear/thump/ |
| 16:31:28 | Bagder | weird mp3 player ;-) |
| 16:36:28 | webmind | right... |
| 16:40:37 | dwihno | Does it run rockbox? ;) |
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| 16:41:01 | Bagder | doesn't even have a display afaict |
| 16:41:27 | dwihno | So what are the optics for? :( |
| 16:41:35 | dwihno | I thought about having a video display on the inside. |
| 16:42:16 | Bagder | the optics are there because oakley makes sunglasses |
| 16:42:44 | dwihno | I'm only being imaginative :) |
| 16:42:57 | dwihno | Now I'll patent the idea and make a buttload of money :) |
| 16:43:18 | Bagder | cool |
| 16:43:23 | Bagder | I'll sue you to get my share |
| 16:43:56 | dwihno | :D |
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| 17:14:26 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | hi guy's. |
| 17:14:32 | Bagder | hi |
| 17:14:41 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | any of the iriver guys here? |
| 17:14:56 | Bagder | who are they? |
| 17:15:21 | Zagor | rockbox is one project, for many players. there is no separate iriver project. |
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| 17:16:29 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | ok, than i'll ask my qustion again cos last time me and the guy helping me(sorry, i cant remember the name..) couldn't figure it out. |
| 17:17:10 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | i wanted to help out so i was told to set up my enviroment first... after reading the docs and setting up cygwin i tried building the iriver simulator |
| 17:17:26 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | but it always builded me the archos one... |
| 17:17:29 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | help anyone? |
| 17:17:33 | Bagder | uh? |
| 17:17:37 | Bagder | who can you tell? |
| 17:17:52 | Bagder | how |
| 17:18:07 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | i thought it will be different... shouldn't it !? am i that dumb...=| |
| 17:18:09 | Bagder | it shouldn't even succeed to build the sim as the build is currently broken |
| 17:18:13 | Bagder | no |
| 17:18:18 | Bagder | Rockbox is... rockbox |
| 17:18:25 | Bagder | it'll look very similar on the iriver |
| 17:18:31 | Bagder | just bigger due to the bigger lcd |
| 17:18:46 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | yep... but i guessed a new picture... of the iriver is in order...=D |
| 17:18:57 | Bagder | you mean a bigger one? |
| 17:19:04 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | i mean in the sim... |
| 17:19:09 | Bagder | aaah |
| 17:19:14 | Bagder | you talk about the windows sim |
| 17:19:20 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | yep. |
| 17:19:23 | Zagor | yeah the small logo looks rather funny on the big display |
| 17:19:25 | Bagder | imho, that pic should be removed completely |
| 17:19:37 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | imho? |
| 17:19:43 | Bagder | Zagor: that crappy archos image around the lcd on the win sim |
| 17:19:55 | Bagder | imho: in my humble opinion |
| 17:20:13 | Zagor | oh i forgot about that. i agree it should be removed. |
| 17:20:21 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | ow, ok =]... sorry i didn't do english chats for a longggg time |
| 17:21:04 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | i told linus that i know a bit C and i would love to help in any way... he told me for starters to set up the enviroment and then maybe help with the buttons... |
| 17:21:22 | Bagder | sounds like a plan |
| 17:21:41 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | so, i guess i built the enviroment... |
| 17:21:52 | Bagder | but the iriver sim build fails on the daily build page |
| 17:21:56 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | now i came here... for the next step. |
| 17:22:02 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | yep.. |
| 17:22:04 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | i tried. |
| 17:22:24 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | the wierd thing is that it does build the archos one... it doesn't just not build it.. |
| 17:22:41 | Bagder | ? |
| 17:22:45 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | so it confused me in to thinking i was doing something wrong. |
| 17:22:52 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 17:22:55 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | after doing the "make" |
| 17:23:03 | Bagder | you can see the status of all builds there |
| 17:23:17 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | i know it says it crashes but im stupid and i tried it any way =D |
| 17:23:31 | Bagder | that's not a "crash" |
| 17:23:48 | Bagder | so, |
| 17:23:55 | Bagder | a good fix would be to make the build work again |
| 17:24:35 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | it worked once?=O |
| 17:24:44 | Bagder | yes |
| 17:24:53 | Bagder | shouldn't be that hard to fix this problem |
| 17:25:40 | Bagder | just tedious |
| 17:25:45 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | when did it work..? so i can download that one.. |
| 17:25:50 | Bagder | ? |
| 17:25:56 | Bagder | there's no point in downloading a sim |
| 17:26:08 | Bagder | you build your own since you want to work with rockbox coding |
| 17:26:46 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | i don't think i could build one from scratch.im not that good...=\ |
| 17:26:56 | Bagder | from scratch? |
| 17:27:02 | Bagder | there is one already |
| 17:27:13 | Bagder | you just need to fix the minor flaws |
| 17:27:15 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | im sorry for the stupid questions but im real a newb |
| 17:27:26 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | ow... now i got u =] |
| 17:28:57 | Bagder | there too, the sim is not unqiue for iRiver, it is the standard Rockbox simulator |
| 17:29:36 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | wow, there are a holl lot of errors... i'll try and fix what ever i can... than i use the wiki to get it to rockbox? |
| 17:29:57 | Zagor | just disable the plugins and it will go through |
| 17:30:10 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | how do i do that?=\ |
| 17:31:58 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | im filling like im more off a hustle than help... if that's the case tell me so i'll leave you alone... |
| 17:32:06 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | feeling* |
| 17:32:29 | Zagor | don't worry |
| 17:34:30 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | than how do i disable the plugins? |
| 17:34:32 | Patr3ck | I am also trying to compile at the moment |
| 17:34:53 | Bagder | actually, I wonder why it builds the plugins |
| 17:34:54 | Zagor | quick&dirty hack: comment out the line "ROCKS=rocks" in apps/Makefile |
| 17:35:24 | Zagor | Bagder: why shouldn't it? |
| 17:35:36 | Bagder | because plugins is not set in tools/configure |
| 17:35:59 | Bagder | ah |
| 17:36:08 | Bagder | the sim is built differently |
| 17:36:13 | Zagor | exactly |
| 17:36:27 | Zagor | oh, so my fix is bogus too.. oops :) |
| 17:36:35 | Bagder | right |
| 17:36:36 | Patr3ck | yes, just tried it |
| 17:36:55 | Bagder | remove $(ROCKS) from the all: line in uisimulator/x11/Makefile |
| 17:37:09 | Bagder | or win32/Makefile |
| 17:37:30 | Bagder | as a temporary work-around |
| 17:38:11 | Bagder | we should acknowledge the same variable in the sim as in the real build for the plugins |
| 17:38:32 | Patr3ck | The compile worked, thanks! |
| 17:38:52 | Zagor | Bagder: imho we should remake the sim builds to be more like the regular ones |
| 17:39:31 | Bagder | yes |
| 17:41:18 | Bagder | we should have another little devcon |
| 17:41:34 | Zagor | yup |
| 17:41:40 | Zagor | gotta go, see you all |
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| 17:43:31 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | i have a qustion... if the iriver and the archos simualtor look the same what's the difference?=O or how can i feel it..? |
| 17:43:54 | Bagder | the only noticable difference is the size of the LCD |
| 17:44:06 | Bagder | LCD is the window size in the sim case |
| 17:47:07 | ^ShAtZMaN^ | now after the change zagor afforrded the sim dosn't do nothing...=\ wired.. i'll fustle around with it a bit.. see you later =] |
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