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#rockbox log for 2004-12-16

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00:10:44midkwhatcha laughing at?
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00:14:20CassandraStrange chap
00:16:40midkdon't need to tell me about it :)
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01:00:26midkcruddo, never mind
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01:16:42CassandraThe manual is live! Woo!
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06:41:52Cheetoanyone remember me? the guy who was having issues with an ATA -11 error at startup? Well I got fun news...
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07:46:09*ashridah watches the tumbleweed drift on by
07:46:20*Cheeto_ shoots the tumbleweed
07:46:25midk ()
07:46:27midk ()
07:46:31midk > <
07:46:38midk(explosion, special effects)
07:46:52ashridah.... an exploding tumbleweed?
07:46:54Cheeto_rolling tumbleweed
07:47:02midkyou shot it.
07:47:13ashridahCheeto: you may as well just mention it anyway. someone will probably see it in their buffer eventually.
07:47:29Cheeto_yeah, shit I forgot about that :P
07:47:58Cheeto_I've been sitting here flinging parts of the archos around. I've got it gutted and lying in a ceramic butter dish on my dresser...
07:48:35Cheeto_so anwyays, here's the story, Dory
07:48:57midkhere's the .... .... i'm going to sleep. :)
07:49:18Cheeto_One day last week, happy little me was preparing to give my happy little group project due at school when I turned on my faithful and happy little Archos and it spat out a happy little 'fuck you' error message at me
07:49:28Cheeto_ata -11
07:49:57midknot plugged in?
07:50:01Cheeto_I asked about it here, I was told it was either the hard drive failure or the power circut, but since the hard drive actually spins up at startup like it always did before, they were slightly stumped
07:50:15Cheeto_I've tried plugged in to the wall, to the computer, to both...
07:50:44Cheeto_I pull out the hard drive and stick it in my laptop and run a check on it. The drive is fine, it can be read and accessed just fine and all the data is sitting happliy there
07:51:56Cheeto_just to be sure, I re-format it as FAT32, thinking that will allow it to at least connect to my computer as a portable hard drive and I can reinstall the OS onto it
07:52:06Cheeto_I have, btw, flashed the firmware to RockBox
07:52:30midkyep, this's happened to me before, but not as you tell it
07:52:43Cheeto_but alas! The evil dragons of hardware mystique have pissed upon my circut board and the problem still infests it's silicon valleys!
07:53:19midkwell, recite your chester cheeto poem thing and i'll tell you how to fix it. ;)
07:54:46Cheeto_so I shall have no choice but to attemp to defeat them in mortal combat most dire! I shall attack them first by submerging them and the poor beleaugured circut board in holy water to cleanse any demons. Then I shall forthwit charge gleefuly and gallantly into the glade with my trust sword and bow and arrow at the ready! I will not hesitate to scrounge the devils from the board, even if I must put an arrow through it's metal heart!
07:54:52Cheeto_which I will...
07:55:18midk... you're going to shoot the board with an arrow?
07:55:26Cheeto_for tis nobler to surely die and surely kill the foul beasts than to live in their ungainly shadow~
07:55:30Cheeto_hell yes
07:55:43midki.. that sounds wrong..
07:55:45Cheeto_I've wanted something to kill with it...
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07:56:04midkgl, hf, dd, cba.
07:56:12Cheeto_so anyways
07:56:33Cheeto_what do you suggest, good knight?
07:56:45midknice one- i used to be known as midknight2k3 :)
07:56:55Cheeto_Have ye a magical or blessed weapon to defeat these terrible fiends?
07:57:03midkhrm. it *is* a tricky one. not plugged into power?
07:57:14Cheeto_not the wall, but it can be
07:57:20Cheeto_the battery still powers it up, though
07:57:35Cheeto_shit aside from this error, it works fine (as far as I know)
07:57:53midkmay want to charge them if they aren't (obvious, and i don't think you're stupid)
07:58:35Cheeto_I've tried that, but when I plug in the ac cord, the little battery icon doesn't change like normal
07:58:58Cheeto_but if I have the battery in and plug it into the wall, it'd get reliable power, correct?
07:59:00midkmaybe your ac input isn't connected right
07:59:07Cheeto_or my USB input?
07:59:11Cheeto_that won't charge it, either
07:59:14midkwhat model is it?
07:59:26Cheeto_FM Recorder
07:59:38midkusb will charge, though much slower than the ac adapter..
07:59:53midkcheck your ac input.. is it connected to the main pc board or loose at all?
08:00:23midkso what happens if you plug it in?
08:01:08Cheeto_to the AC? It starts up the flash (I'm assuming, since the HD doesn't spin up) and plops the battery icon on screen, but doesn't show the normal filling of the battery icon
08:01:18Cheeto_like it's frozen waiting for something
08:01:34midkis everything connected? battery, hard drive?
08:02:00midkit's worked fine before, even flashed?
08:02:02Cheeto_if I jerry rigged wires from the contacts inside to the outer contacts and ground, would that overload anything?
08:02:20Cheeto_it would periodically lock up while I mowed the lawn, but I always attributed that to vibration
08:02:31Cheeto_that went away whenever I did a hard reset on it
08:02:40midkinside contacts from the fmr? outside contacts from what?
08:02:46Cheeto_that battery door
08:02:51Cheeto_which, btw, is a POS
08:03:00Cheeto_I have to DUCT TAPE the battery door shut
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08:03:46Cheeto_if I can't get this repaired, 'ipod' will be my new favorite word around Christmas and birthday :PP
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08:03:58Cheeto_well...that or AV4000
08:04:29midk*cough* hmm.
08:04:30Cheeto_karma for what?
08:04:37Cheeto_I buried a kitty the other day
08:04:40midkrio karma.
08:04:41Cheeto_I have GOOD karma!
08:04:46midkdon't need to know.. :)
08:05:04Cheeto_oh some poor cat had died on the street corner and no one bothered to bury him for days
08:05:18Cheeto_so I decided I was tired of lookin at 'im and buried his poor fuzzy butt
08:05:50Cheeto_stuffed him in a glad bag, threw him in a hole, sang 'Amazing Grace' and went in to play video games and have lunch
08:06:04Cheeto_I'm a humanitarian, damnit! >_<
08:06:11Cheeto_err, kittytarian
08:07:23midkwell.. yeahg.
08:07:35midkanyways.. no idea as to the problem, never heard of anything like it, sorry
08:07:41Cheeto_oh for the love of...
08:07:58Cheeto_*sticks an apple on a pike and plants it outside his room*
08:08:01midktry charging the batteries outside of t.. oh, right, never mind..
08:08:07Cheeto_oh right nevermind what?
08:08:18Cheeto_how would I charge the battery outside of it?
08:08:26midki was going to say charge them with a battery charger, but recalled it's fmr -> lith ion
08:08:34Cheeto_yeah, those can be recharged
08:08:44Cheeto_if I wanna jerry rig up a charger
08:09:03Cheeto_btw, I got 2 other error codes from it, usually when I fucked with something
08:09:12midkhmm, which?
08:09:13Cheeto_Error 31 and either 1 or 51
08:09:42midkneither of them mean much to me
08:10:06midkcareful with the jerry rigging, those batteries are pretty creepy
08:10:15Cheeto_at least I can upgrade my laptop's hard drive from a rattling, aging, 6gb to 20gb
08:10:37midkhaha to upgrading :)
08:10:58midkwell, they've been known to sort of blow up at times (not due to tampering, though)
08:11:16Cheeto_*pulls the batteries away from his face*
08:11:19midki've heard of two or three cases of them expanding to three times their size, breaking the casing and screen... :)
08:11:23Cheeto_*throws them out the window*
08:11:26Cheeto_DUCK AND COVER!
08:11:26midk(overnight or something)
08:11:32midkyeah! woo!
08:11:36midk*nothing happens*
08:11:41Cheeto_*blows up the neighbors dog who SHITS ON MY (I mean his) LAWN!*
08:12:05Cheeto_see? Karma! :D
08:12:15Cheeto_I pay respects to kitty, I get to kill a doggy!
08:12:28midkhmm. but... yeah, ok, have fun. :)
08:12:57Cheeto_public func_effects (is_cool = 1);
08:13:16midk... what language is that? :)
08:13:29Cheeto_it was SUPPOSED to be C++
08:13:37midkbool no() { return true; }
08:13:40Cheeto_but it was prolly IDIOT
08:14:12Cheeto_my last C++ class was...oooooooooooh...a year ago
08:14:17Cheeto_and it was highschool for one semester
08:14:25Cheeto_and I've only TRIED coding mods ever since
08:14:37Cheeto_I manged to make a gun that crashed the game, thoguh!
08:14:44midkwhat game?
08:14:50Cheeto_I called it 'YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT RIFLE!'
08:14:59Cheeto_Half-Life, Half-Life 2, UT2K4
08:15:07midki'll take the hl2 version please
08:15:16Cheeto_that'll be my single player epic
08:15:48Cheeto_which is currently about as far along as model scraps, a design document with an almost finished plotline and layout, and a German guy singing 'I went to the danger zone'
08:16:27midkmodel scraps? of what!?!
08:17:48Cheeto_I've got like 3 projects in my head right now, and 2 of em I'm actually TRYING to work on (though it's hard as hell with no time, no hardware, no team, and still trying to learn all new mechanics of the engines)
08:18:03Cheeto_hell I can do most everything BUT the coding
08:19:36midkcoding in c++?
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08:19:47midkwhat kind of project exactly?
08:21:38Cheeto_well, for UT2K4 I wanted to make a sniper game. About 4-8 people per server, slower, more tense, hunting like gameplay with just rifles, pistols, and mines (hooo boy would those be fun). For HL2 I wanted to make my own sideline story to replace the one they made (with my own fun little conspiracy I'm actually kind of proud of), and a single player, 3rd or 1st person story with a detective trying to solve a murder mystery in the Chunnel
08:21:54Cheeto_shit, 4 projects
08:22:03Cheeto_I forgot about my zombie survival simulation for STALKER
08:23:06midki should try you at hl2dm some time
08:23:18Cheeto_I have
08:23:22Cheeto_I'm making a map
08:23:44Cheeto_a giant cargo dockyard. You get to have firefights on top of cargo containers dangling from cranes
08:24:33midki want to help.
08:24:56midkno, i want to beta test :)
08:25:35midkor help, if you want it :)
08:25:50Cheeto_programming help is what I really need. I can't code or read code for shit
08:26:01midki can do c, but not c++
08:26:10midkcan't be that different, right?
08:26:16midk*5 weeks later* "wtf does this mean?!"
08:26:34Cheeto_I once opened a soruce code file, tried to sort it out, exclaimed loudly 'What the HELL is this guy doing?' Then noticed it was my code
08:26:54midkgood one, chester :) real slick!
08:26:54Cheeto_yes I'm aware some guy on posted that, too, but I actually DID that
08:27:21midkactually, you're right, i read that one
08:28:04Cheeto_HL2 is coded in C++, but thankfully my singleplayer thing wouldn't require much beyond making new classes and they'd be modifications of pre-existing ones, UT2K4 is done in it's own Unreal Script, but that has tutorials in it for learning that language, and it was based off of C/C++
08:28:19midkwtf is a class :p
08:28:31midkyeah i'm not a helo
08:28:33Cheeto_*shuffles off to code the bitch himself*
08:29:00Cheeto_I'd have better lock beating my head on the keyboard and hoping by some miracle my karma allows me to hit just the right sequence of keys...
08:29:26midkshut the hell up. void stfu, return false.
08:29:35midkwarning, return in a void function.
08:29:41midkerror 64.
08:29:47Cheeto_midk_cock_size −−
08:30:04Cheeto_init midk_iq 0;
08:30:14midkchester_cheeto_cock_size = NULL;
08:30:15Cheeto_two can play the Code Wars game
08:30:26midklong midk_penis = 12;
08:30:31Cheeto_hahahha, NULL because I exceed the IRQ limits!
08:30:51Cheeto_*waves his uber panis around* I am bigger than your puny RAM size can comprehend!
08:31:04midkyes. you're more than 32,000.... ATOMS
08:31:06Cheeto_did I just compare my penis size to hardware specs?
08:31:12midkyes. geek.
08:31:46Cheeto_func cheeto_shamed (1);
08:31:58Cheeto_okay we're so putting this on
08:32:29Cheeto_just so I can feel I accomplished SOMETHING tonight
08:32:30midkbool cheeto_retarded(void) { if(TRUE) return true; else if(FALSE) return true; return true; }
08:32:40Cheeto_even if it was only to lower the collective IQ of the net
08:32:43midkif(cheeto_retarted()) return true;/
08:32:46ashridahgood luck. have you seen the acceptance queue on
08:32:48Cheeto_*formats midk*
08:32:51midkit's huge
08:33:02midki put something in about a month ago, still about a month to go.
08:33:18Cheeto_nah, but I'm going away for 2 weeks, me and my giga-cock can wait
08:34:08Cheeto_I have to wake up early tomorrow
08:34:14Cheeto_I haven't studied for my exam!
08:34:31Cheeto_I have to leave early to get my trenchcoat!
08:34:43Cheeto_I might get some tomorrow!
08:35:27midky.. :\
08:35:37midkthen again, the world might blow up.
08:35:42Cheeto_wanna get REALLY pissed?
08:35:45Cheeto_*pops his neck*
08:35:49midkhmm, sure.
08:35:51Cheeto_she's beautiful
08:35:54Cheeto_she's mentall stable
08:36:00Cheeto_she's sweet and affectionate
08:36:06Cheeto_she's kinky and sexyful
08:36:13Cheeto_she's an artist
08:36:14midkhmm.. if you have to tell me she's mentally stable she's probably not
08:36:17Cheeto_she's a gamer
08:36:36zemidk: have you had much experience with girls?
08:36:39Cheeto_no I'm saying 'mentally stable' as in the old joke of 'pretty, mentally stable, available. pick 2'
08:37:04midkyou chose available and mentally stable?
08:37:08midkgood rule btw
08:37:11midkze: as in?
08:38:08Cheeto_I chose all 3
08:38:08midki'd be hot in one of those pimped out tiedie shirts
08:38:13Cheeto_there is ALWAYS a third option
08:38:22midk.... "muscular"? :)
08:38:38Cheeto_I just chose the option of 'sleep with all the pretty women till one who's all 3 comes around'
08:38:48Cheeto_muscular ain't my thing
08:38:52Cheeto_not even in guys
08:38:59Cheeto_I mean girls!
08:39:11dwihnoCheeto: So I'm all out of luck then? ;)
08:39:23Cheeto_*pulls out his penis shaped neuralyzer*
08:39:38midki saw a really muscular girl on a fear factor show once
08:39:43Cheeto_hey I just said I got a girl...
08:39:44midkshe was pretty.. creepy?
08:39:54Cheeto_she's fan-bloody-tastic :)
08:40:23Cheeto_plus for one of the first dates we had she came out to my house and we played video games for awhile
08:41:30Cheeto_I'm thankfully one of those rare breeds of geek who can shift between comptuer nut and romantic suave
08:41:42Cheeto_I am a Geek Rouge!
08:41:47Cheeto_ph3@r m3!
08:42:31midk<Cheeto_> public func_effects (is_cool = 1);
08:42:35midkcomputer nut? :)
08:43:17Cheeto_yeah, since I was a wee boy and f*cked up my dad's comp with Win 3.1 and AOL cos I wanted to play SimCity and it wasn't running fast enough
08:44:32Cheeto_I'm gonna put my MP3 player's guts back in the butter dish, now
08:44:42midkhave fun, night
08:44:55Cheeto_dude, the butter dish is all of 4 feet away
08:45:05midkok, had fun. now, night. :)
08:45:06Cheeto_it's not like I have to journey across Middle Earth or anything
08:45:14midktrusty bow and arrow in hand, of course.
08:45:18Cheeto_awww, don't you wub me? :(
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08:45:36midkof course i do. just not that way.
08:45:45midk*runs. *sprints. *dashes.
08:45:49Sir_CheetoI shall ride my trusty steed to the ends of the earth to defeat yon demons!
08:46:07midkze: i still want one of those tydy tshirts. kthx.
08:46:36Sir_CheetoI shall naught stop until I have rescued the lady Archos to her virtuous state!
08:46:50zemidk: how much will you pay for it again?
08:46:58midkuh.... friendship?
08:47:04Sir_CheetoOr until the great king replaces her with her cousin iPodia
08:47:20 Nick Sir_Cheeto is now known as Cheeto (
08:49:46Cheetoso no ideas on how to diagnose/repair my Archos?
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08:50:17midkzagor is mr. rockbox.
08:50:31Cheetodomo arigoto mr. roxboxo
08:51:28Cheetoehh, midk, you'd prolly better explain the problem than I would
08:51:54midkit's in the logs
08:52:05Zagorearlier today?
08:52:15Cheetoyou don't want me launching into another round of Sir Cheeto and his quest to defeat the great dragon of the silicon valleys of the land of Archos
08:52:22midkabout a half hour ago
08:52:24Cheetoyeah, bout 20 minutes ago
08:52:37Cheetojust look for references to tumbleweeds and go from there
08:52:39midkactually an hour
08:52:48Cheetofuckin hell, you're right
08:52:49midktime flies when you're bragging, huh? ;)
08:53:09Cheetothat ain't the only thing flyin, awwwwwwww yeah!
08:53:25midkif that means what i think it means, that's enough, good night.
08:53:25*Cheeto does the sekseh dance
08:53:36Cheetoyou have a dirty mind...
08:53:47midkwhat did it mean?
08:53:50CheetoI was referring to the villagers being tossed about by the great dragon!
08:55:27Cheetobrb, gotta get pants on and start the dishwasher (yes the two are related, no I'm not naked, the pants are just fleece pants because it's freezing in here and I'm wearing shorts because it was warm in my room earlier)
08:56:44Cheetoit's a sad day when you have to bundle up to leave your room because the rest of the house is a damned icebox
08:56:45midkwarm -> freezing?
08:56:46midkyeah right
08:56:55midkgod dammit, good night.
08:56:56ZagorCheeto: how are your soldering skills?
08:56:56Cheetomy room has a big window and faces the afternoon sun
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08:57:14Cheetomine are shite, but I have acccess to people who are decent solders
08:57:40Zagoryour problem could be due to bad connection in some solder points
08:58:37ZagorCheeto: which model is it, btw?
08:58:44CheetoFm Recorder
08:59:00CheetoI dunno any more than that offhand, but I have all the pieces nearby me if you want me to check
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08:59:19Cheetognight midk, btw
08:59:34Cheetoif you're serious about helping me make mods, then email me
08:59:48Josh_FileCan the Recorder only accept a 220 voltage?
09:00:10ZagorJosh_File: it much prefers 9-12 volts...
09:00:31CheetoI think he means incoming through the AC adapter
09:00:50Cheetolike how some places use 220, some use 250, some 110
09:00:52Zagoryeah, but that naturally is depending on the adapter and not the archos
09:01:03Cheetowell not everyone knows that :)
09:01:31Cheetojosh you might have to get a different adapter or a travel kit
09:02:00Zagoryeah, sorry. i meant to be funny, not rude
09:02:12Josh_FileCan I just buy a US>Australia Adaptor from my eletronics shop?
09:02:21Cheetonah, you were cute but smartass, I rate it about a 7-8
09:02:58Cheetoare you travelling or did you buy the archos in Oz?
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09:03:21Josh_FileI buy from US, Ship to New-Zealand, Same Power standerd as OZ
09:03:45Cheetoyou know anything about the power standards in NZ?
09:04:11Josh_FileWell I know the Plugs and the Voltage is diffrent from the US
09:04:22Josh_FileOther than that no =/
09:04:24Cheetowell the plugs are just metal, that's not that important
09:04:27Cheetowhat's the voltage?
09:05:08Josh_FileI'll check on one of my plugs now
09:05:51Cheetowell, I think the adapater will run funky if it doesn't get the right amount of voltage, but IIRC, most countries stick to roughly all the same voltage, so you *MIGHT* just need to get a different plug adapter to make it fit into NZ plugs
09:06:16Josh_File220v - 240v, 50V, 120 mA
09:06:33Cheetothat's a plug that you got in NZ? Should be fun
09:06:43Josh_Fileoops 220v - 240v, 50 Hz, 120 mA
09:06:43Cheeto2am typing skills suck...
09:06:57Zagoractually many modern switched adapters can handle 100-250 V input
09:07:18Cheetosince you can go from 110 to 220 in a matter of feet in just the US
09:07:34ZagorJosh_File: is that 120mA output at 9 or 12 volts?
09:07:36Cheetothough I'm wondering if the frequency difference will matter?
09:07:48ZagorCheeto: i don't know
09:08:03CheetoI think he's reading a plug he got in NZ to get the info to tell us about the power standards they have, not the plug he's gonna plug into the archos
09:08:21Josh_FileYep Cheeto
09:08:33*Cheeto feels smarts!
09:09:03Zagorok. i'll grab this mornings first coffee
09:09:26Josh_FileDoes Rockbox support any Lossless codex's appart from Wav?
09:09:30Cheetohey Zagor, got any further insight about my problem? You asked me about soldering...
09:09:31CheetoJosh_File: Just get a new plug adapter to make the standard US one fit
09:09:40CheetoMP3 and WAV
09:09:42Cheetothat's it
09:10:20Josh_FileWhats the problem with other lossless standerds, they don't required to be uncompressed?
09:10:56Cheetothey have to be decoded, and that's done on a chip on the circut board
09:11:10Cheetoso without reprogramming that chip (which no one but Archos knows how to do) they can't add more formats
09:14:31Josh_FileDoes the Rockbox automaticly stop the music when the headphones are pulled out, I read somewere that the Ipod does.
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09:14:58CheetoI hadn't heard anything about that for the iPod, though
09:15:15Josh_FileIt was the Ipod or the Sony Walkman, one of thoes
09:15:25Cheetointeresting, cool idea
09:15:41ashridahJosh_File: it'd need support from the hardware to do that.
09:17:08Josh_FileJust wondering, does the Line out still play music when nothing is plugged in, you just can't hear it, or does it sense when somthings connected?
09:17:28Cheetono, like I said
09:17:37Cheetoit plays normally
09:17:42Cheetoit can't tell if it's there or not
09:19:06Cheeto[0]sushant_bhatia_progr writes "The Register has an article about a [1]new 80GB drive from Toshiba. Toshiba says it will ship an 80GB 1.8in hard drive in Q3 2005 - a year after it introduced the 60GB version that can currently to be found inside the iPod Photo. The 80GB HDD - model number MK8007GAH - comes in a 7.9 x 5.4 x 0.8cm casing. Toshiba will ship a 40GB version - model number MK4007GAL - that's just 0.5cm thick in the second quarte
09:19:07Cheetorespectively) 1.8in HDDs are 0.8cm thick, so the new drive should make for thinner mid-range iPods. Both drives spin at 4200rpm, offer an average seek time of 15ms and operate across an Ultra DMA 100 interface. They can take 500G operating shock and 1500G non-operating shock."
09:20:35Josh_FileThats more storage than in my computer its-self, crappy 40 gig HDD
09:20:55Cheetoyeah and it's small enough to fit inside your digital camera's memory slot
09:21:10Cheetoand weighs as much as a few coins
09:21:24Josh_FileHow much does it cost though
09:21:48ashridahJosh_File: we'll tell you when it gets shipped in half a year
09:22:01ashridah(and assume it's expensive until the next size up comes out)
09:25:09Josh_FileHow much music does each of you guys have, I have around 8GB
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09:27:26Cheetohey, Zagor
09:28:16ashridah10GB here.
09:28:40ashridahbut i have far more miscellaneous stuff on my iriver
09:29:10ZagorCheeto: others with similar problems have managed to fix it by heating solder joints, especially those holding different boards together
09:30:03Cheetotried that
09:30:05ZagorJosh_File: I have around 65 GB
09:30:09Cheetobut maybe when I resolder it'll work
09:30:21Cheetothanks, though, I'm going to bed since I'm gonna get about 5 hours sleep now
09:30:29ZagorCheeto: ok. good night.
09:30:37Cheetognight, and thanks for the help
09:30:55Josh_FileZagor, Whats the point of 20 minite bleeding edge build's, Rockbox isn't updated every 20 minites
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09:31:25ZagorJosh_File: it's for developers to spot mistakes in other builds than they tested
09:33:25Josh_FileHows the Mic on the Recorder, Do you need to stick it right next to your mouth, or can you use it to recorded coversations
09:34:28Zagorit's pretty sensitive. you can keep it on the table. however it will pick up the harddrive spinup noise, so for anything other than quick&dirty recordings an external mic is recommended.
09:38:50Josh_FileMy recorder should arrive in 3 weeks, I'm so excited
09:46:25Josh_FileMY CATS BETTER THAN YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!
09:49:56ashridah... did that really require so much punctuation?
09:50:30Josh_FileNo Not really, I'm just extremly bored
09:51:04ashridahwhy is it such a huge image?
09:51:15ashridahi know it's mostly black, so it compresses well, but, yeah, scale it down :)
09:51:19ashridahcrop a bit too
09:52:30Josh_FileFor what its going to be used for, it needs to be high quality
09:52:54Josh_FileIf you refur 10 people to your ISP ashridah, you get a free ipod mini!
09:54:09Zagor...and you get spammed to death for free too
09:59:20Josh_FileWhy is no-one mods in here?
10:03:54Zagorbecause we don't need to
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10:09:02Josh_FileSo if someones being a real dickwad, no-one can kick them?
10:09:30Zagoryes we can. we can become ops anytime we want.
10:09:57Mode"#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
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10:13:31LinusNwe can op logbot, and he'll clean up the mess
10:13:55Bagderlogbot is a good bot
10:13:58LinusNor is it a she? :-)
10:14:08Bagderlogbot is better than us ;-)
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10:28:24Topic"Check out the Rockbox 2.3 manual!" by LinusN (
10:35:12Josh_FileNobody likes you, everyone hates you, thier all out without you having fun
10:36:52Zagorthey are? i knew it!
10:37:24BagderJosh_File: why do you think we hang out here otherwise? ;-)
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10:39:23Josh_FileOoops, Didn't mean to write that, I'm writing lyrics for Green Day, Letterbomb
10:39:48Josh_FileAnd its everyone left you, not everyone hates you
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13:41:13quelsarukgood morning
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13:41:41quelsarukit was not me
13:41:43quelsaruki swear
13:42:16*LinusN has the power
13:47:37quelsarukLinusN and the masters of the universe ;)
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14:28:22ripnetukhi all... have I missed any iRiver news?
14:30:58LinusNi have been very busy lately
14:31:34ripnetuki find that 'real life' really gets in the way of geek playing
14:32:43ripnetukand i dont even have kids :)
14:57:33darkskiezlinus has finished the rockbox port and has been too busy listening to music to post it online.
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15:08:19amiconnLinusN: You once told that you did a hardware survey some time ago? Are the results available somewhere? I'd be especially interested in player data (model, ROM version). Btw: Do you know of any Jukebox 5000? I've seen many 6000's on eBay and elsewhere, but not a single 5000...
15:12:13LinusNthat survey was mainly for the recorder v1
15:12:48LinusNand i never published it...
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15:36:44amiconnLinusN: Then I think I should start my own survey via the ml...
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16:07:11[IDC]Dragonhi guys!
16:07:29quelsarukhi [IDC]Dragon
16:07:35[IDC]Dragonamiconn: I got the EL chip today
16:08:19amiconnHi [IDC]Dragon
16:08:28amiconnI got the Ondio FM today :)
16:08:36[IDC]Dragonthe present?
16:08:51[IDC]Dragonfrom where? how much?
16:09:14[IDC]Dragondo you know which tuner is in?
16:10:48amiconnNeverending questions ... ;-) (1) (2) 112,- . I picked it up from the service bureau, that saved the shippings costs (3) Don't know the tuner model yet, Ondio is still shrink-wrapped
16:11:59amiconnI'll probably check it out in the evening: (1) check power consumption (2) Put rockbox on it and check tuner model (3) Flash it
16:12:30[IDC]Dragon(2.5) make a nice custom logo for her
16:14:00quelsarukthat's the most important thing to do
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16:18:17hilehow much is it reasonable to pay for a used archos recorder 20GB
16:18:59hilethought I might get one for rockbox tweaking, even if my primary player is ihp140...
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16:20:17[IDC]Dragonhile: prices are rising, EUR 140 perhaps
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16:22:14hilewell, there is one for bidding in finnish auction site - now 120. I'll bid that and check what happens...
16:27:47quelsarukcu l8r!
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20:34:00ana57hi all
20:34:09quelsarukhi ana57
20:34:45ana57my recorder works but the display no more show anything
20:35:07ana57is it possible that is has himself unplug from its socket
20:38:36quelsarukafter installing a new rockbox version?
20:39:01ana57no changes in teh soft -
20:39:23ana57SO I think it is possible it unplugs itself
20:39:25quelsaruki thought it could be the a "low contrast" effect
20:39:39quelsaruktry it anyway... just in case
20:40:07quelsarukit's easier to fix the contrast than to change display
20:41:16quelsarukthere's no more blank screen bug
20:41:34quelsaruk(afaik.. at least that's what the faq says)
20:41:55quelsarukLinusN: somewhere here
20:53:13ana57I was busz
20:53:19quelsarukdon't worry
20:53:27ana57 is there a way to open the box to se if it is broken ;;
20:53:49ana57my is recorder 10
20:54:15quelsarukif it's broken.. that can help
20:54:28quelsarukbut... ask a hardware guru first
20:57:48amiconnquelsaruk: What blank screen bug are you referring to? I didn't know that there was one...
20:58:00quelsaruka low contrast
20:58:27ana57how could i increase the contrast without seeing the screen menu
20:58:41quelsarukwith the old FAQ you could know
20:58:51quelsarukwait and i'll tell you just in case
20:59:16ana57ok i wait
20:59:20quelsarukamiconn: sometimes the default contrast is too low for some displays.. you have to raise it.. or too high
20:59:25quelsarukor was...
21:00:46quelsarukpowering my archos.. sorry
21:01:28quelsarukno batts.. arrg...
21:01:36quelsarukpowering my brother's one..
21:02:28ana57But in mine i ve rockbox soft, but i did not rememeber which verrsion, so it is possible that mz version differs from zours, so the menu coulds differs
21:03:29quelsarukF1, Down, Down, Left, Down, Down, Left, Down, Down, Left, Down, Down, Down, Left, Up ( press Up a lot of times to raise Contrast...)
21:03:41ana57ok i ll trz
21:04:04ana57but perhaps zou means down down right ???
21:04:24quelsaruki don't know what i was thinking on
21:04:30quelsarukleft is right
21:04:59ana57it does not change anzthing, I think it is simplz disconnect from its socket ? or it is broken
21:05:00quelsarukmy brother's rockbox is version 2.2
21:05:15quelsaruktry downloading and installing version 2.3
21:05:24quelsarukthat should reset all settings
21:05:33quelsarukto default ones
21:06:07quelsarukand if the display is ok.. that should repair the issue (as it's said... that bug doesn't exist in last version)
21:06:29quelsarukif not.. try that page i gave you
21:07:49amiconnWho's still running 2.2? That's a build from the rockbox stone age...
21:08:14ana57alread doenload the version 2,3 and does not siccess.
21:08:47ana57So I think i have to open it, and see if it was unplugged
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21:14:35amiconnBagder, LinusN: r u there?
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21:31:39quelsarukamiconn: you know.. my brother is really lazy
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21:31:54quelsaruki allways have bleeding edge firmware
21:32:06quelsaruksince version 1.0
21:32:08quelsarukbut he...
21:32:11quelsarukno comments
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23:36:07amiconnPlayer flash package coming up... :-)
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