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| 00:19:43 | Mythril | I was wondering if there are any similiar projects for the Archos AV120 http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/mp3/5fe2/ |
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| 06:04:42 | Nhanced1 | hey guys |
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| 06:12:10 | Nhanced1 | wow its dead in here |
| 06:12:25 | Nhanced1 | are you around midk? |
| 06:13:40 | midk | yeah, what's up? |
| 06:13:55 | Nhanced1 | nothin, lookin for someone to talk to |
| 06:14:20 | Nhanced1 | you work on the archos or the iriver? or you a groupie too? hehe |
| 06:14:48 | midk | depends on what you'd define working on.. i created the clock plugin for rockbox (archos) :) |
| 06:15:22 | Nhanced1 | nice |
| 06:16:09 | Nhanced1 | what development platform do you use to code plugins for rockbox? I only know a little Java and we used eclipse, what language is used? |
| 06:17:41 | midk | rockbox is something like 95% C, and for me, linux for programming/compiling |
| 06:18:14 | Nhanced1 | oh, i see, ive got mandrake on my laptop, what distro you running? |
| 06:18:45 | midk | mandrake as well :) |
| 06:19:20 | Nhanced1 | I like its ease |
| 06:19:37 | Nhanced1 | I didnt want to mess with it, but I like knowing I can |
| 06:20:04 | midk | yeah |
| 06:21:30 | Nhanced1 | How did you get involved with rockbox in the beginning? |
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| 06:22:48 | midk | mh.. ran into it reading reviews about the jbr20.. got one... learned a ton from just reading rockbox code.. did small modifications.. got a book... and now i have created the largest plugin for rockbox! mwawhha! |
| 06:23:41 | Nhanced1 | wait.. you had C experience before rockbox right? |
| 06:24:07 | midk | nope |
| 06:24:13 | Nhanced1 | wow, impressive |
| 06:24:42 | Nhanced1 | how old are you if you dont mind me asking? |
| 06:25:13 | midk | If i had known what i know now when i had started, 75% of what I have now could have been done in just a couple days, meaning probably about 10% of the time |
| 06:25:25 | midk | 14 |
| 06:25:27 | midk | :) |
| 06:46:13 | dwihno | Good morning! |
| 06:53:13 | Mythril | I was wondering if there are any similiar projects for the Archos AV120 http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/mp3/5fe2/ |
| 06:54:35 | dwihno | Judging from the discussions on this channel, I don't think the archos units will get another port |
| 06:55:09 | Mythril | dislike of the archos abound? |
| 06:55:39 | dwihno | If (read: when) the iriver port is completed, I wouldn't be surprised if the work on newer iriver models will be intensified |
| 06:56:41 | dwihno | dunno really |
| 06:57:49 | dwihno | There has been discussions whether the archos deserves rockbox at all |
| 06:58:43 | midk | 'deserves'? |
| 06:59:09 | dwihno | can't remember the details |
| 06:59:14 | dwihno | you can check the logs |
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| 07:01:55 | midk | either way, imo a pointless topic... what hardware exactly 'deserves' attention? |
| 07:02:18 | dwihno | Well, cooperative companies |
| 07:02:25 | dwihno | Perhaps neuros? |
| 07:03:01 | Mythril | archos markedly uncooperative? |
| 07:03:02 | dwihno | Speeds up the port, the hardware gets the best firmware available, it's a win/win situation |
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| 07:03:53 | dwihno | Björn or Daniel got a mail from "the big A", asking for permission to include the firmware on the driver disc |
| 07:03:58 | dwihno | afaik, that never happened |
| 07:06:28 | midk | they said ok as long as archos would give them some information, iirc, but archos never got back to them |
| 07:08:10 | dwihno | information wants to be free |
| 07:10:27 | dwihno | I can see they wouldn't want to release information without a NDA, but afaik, they didn't even offer that (even though it wouldn't be an option) |
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| 08:22:05 | dwihno | You don't know how to get papers on processors used in mobile phones? :) |
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| 08:22:14 | dwihno | Or whatever is ticking inside :) |
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| 08:40:53 | LinusN | dwihno: well, you'll need to find out which processor it is |
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| 08:56:36 | LinusN | dwihno: for the record, the main issue with archos regarding them distributing rockbox was that they wanted to issue a press release |
| 08:57:10 | LinusN | where we would claim that Rockbox was a collaboration project with Archos and us |
| 08:57:32 | LinusN | and we just couldn't accept that, since they haven't helped us a single bit |
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| 09:00:37 | dwihno | LinusN: ah, okay. |
| 09:00:49 | dwihno | LinusN: WHen you say that, I do remember. |
| 09:00:59 | dwihno | I'm getting too old for this "software" stuff ;) |
| 09:01:39 | LinusN | and now, when archos has started refusing warranty repairs for those who have installed rockbox, we are even less inclined to port to another archos platform |
| 09:02:13 | dwihno | installed or flashed |
| 09:02:18 | LinusN | both, iirc |
| 09:02:24 | dwihno | flashed, I can understand |
| 09:02:47 | dwihno | Even if it's a lame excuse for poorly assembly |
| 09:06:41 | LinusN | yeah, i can stretch myself to understanding the flash case, if the fault was because of a corrupt flash |
| 09:07:23 | dwihno | Evil Company (tm) |
| 09:07:39 | dwihno | Or perhaps a new rockbox port would be in order to piss them off even more ;) |
| 09:07:43 | dwihno | nah, j/k |
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| 09:19:25 | amiconn | Bah, T-Offline :-[ |
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| 10:02:42 | bobTHC | hi all |
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| 10:26:41 | amiconn | hi [IDC]Dragon |
| 10:31:21 | [IDC]Dragon | hi Jens |
| 10:31:55 | [IDC]Dragon | in case anybody saw my suggested options for the multivolume implementation, I went for 2) now |
| 10:32:08 | amiconn | Re your options for adding the volume/disk parameter: I also thought about this problem some time ago. |
| 10:32:23 | [IDC]Dragon | making a little macro to hide the extra argument, member, etc |
| 10:32:29 | amiconn | I'd go for the macro-that-conditionally-folds-to-nothing solution |
| 10:32:50 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, that's how I started it now |
| 10:33:30 | [IDC]Dragon | but had some struggle with a comma in the macro |
| 10:34:29 | [IDC]Dragon | I solved that with a different macro for anything containing a comma |
| 10:35:08 | [IDC]Dragon | haven't proceeded to struct members yet, dunno how a semicolon will work out |
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| 10:37:57 | Zagor | amiconn: did you mail the guy who wrote the player flash bug report we discussed? |
| 10:40:46 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: IMHO, major preprocessing is not very KISS |
| 10:43:37 | [IDC]Dragon | I know, and didn't like the other options, too |
| 10:43:44 | [IDC]Dragon | any idea? |
| 10:46:27 | amiconn | Iirc, the STR() macro does the same |
| 10:46:38 | LinusN | i think option 3 looked ok |
| 10:46:45 | [IDC]Dragon | which wasn't very nice, either |
| 10:46:50 | LinusN | which functions are we talking about? |
| 10:46:53 | [IDC]Dragon | the STR(), I mean |
| 10:48:00 | [IDC]Dragon | low-level file and fat |
| 10:48:53 | [IDC]Dragon | in case 3) will be acceptable, I still would start with the macro way |
| 10:49:04 | [IDC]Dragon | it can be easily removed later |
| 10:49:12 | LinusN | sure |
| 10:49:17 | [IDC]Dragon | but is difficult to introduce |
| 10:49:41 | [IDC]Dragon | afterwards |
| 10:50:16 | [IDC]Dragon | plus, we can count the macro usage and base a decision on that |
| 10:50:46 | Zagor | i think 3) is best too. the extra code isn't huge and won't make stuff much more complex. in addition, we will be able to support multiple partitions for people who like that. |
| 10:51:41 | [IDC]Dragon | right now, we don't know the penalty, so I'd prefer to have it conditional first |
| 10:52:52 | Zagor | we don't know the penalty? |
| 10:53:00 | [IDC]Dragon | do you? |
| 10:53:31 | Zagor | i would expect you did, since you have the code :) |
| 10:53:58 | [IDC]Dragon | I started writing some smaller fraction yesterday |
| 10:54:39 | [IDC]Dragon | bottom-up, not much more than the ata read/write yet |
| 10:54:47 | Zagor | aha, ok |
| 10:55:19 | [IDC]Dragon | nothing that does something useful yet |
| 10:56:07 | amiconn | I dislike option 3, as I much dislike unused code |
| 10:56:46 | Zagor | i guess the multiple buffers are the greatest penalty. we might want to make the number of volumes configurable, to avoid wasting ram unnecessarily. |
| 10:57:59 | Zagor | amiconn: well there shouldn't be much unused code really. just code that supports something not everybody uses. |
| 10:58:13 | [IDC]Dragon | I have made a #define for the # of volumes |
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| 11:00:07 | Zagor | i think you should do what is easiest for you right now. then we have a basis for discussion and can adjust it later if we want to. |
| 11:00:24 | Zagor | incremental development |
| 11:00:26 | amiconn | Zagor: Of course the buffers are the greatest penalty. I mean, unconditionally adding the volume parameter to the api functions adds unused code to the platforms which don't support multiple volumes |
| 11:01:11 | Zagor | amiconn: the harddisk units could use multiple volume support too. we've had requests for multiple partition support, for instance. |
| 11:02:19 | amiconn | There are actually 2 different levels where support is needed: (1) multi-volume for the file system. While this might be useful for supporting multiple partitions, I don't see the advantage of doing so |
| 11:03:01 | amiconn | (2) mutli-disk support in the ata driver. I don't see how this could be useful for the hd based units |
| 11:04:47 | Zagor | i agree. however i don't think multi-disk ata support will add so much code that it's worth the extra complexity of having it compile time selectable. but we will see. |
| 11:06:56 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Did you read the mail about the Studio 20 which displays "Wrong Boot ROM" when trying to flash? |
| 11:07:07 | [IDC]Dragon | no |
| 11:07:14 | [IDC]Dragon | mailing list or forum? |
| 11:07:18 | amiconn | ml |
| 11:07:24 | * | [IDC]Dragon looks |
| 11:07:50 | amiconn | It looks like this box actually got a *different* boot rom... |
| 11:08:56 | [IDC]Dragon | interesting |
| 11:09:13 | [IDC]Dragon | we never had that, across all platforms |
| 11:10:12 | amiconn | I just sent an answer. The ROM dump could be very interesting... |
| 11:12:14 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe it's a ROMless player |
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| 11:13:03 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Shouldn't the flash plugin then request the _norom.bin, instead complaining about wrong boot rom? |
| 11:13:41 | [IDC]Dragon | perhaps. dunno if that check is done the same way for players, but likely |
| 11:13:59 | [IDC]Dragon | let's wait until we have a dump |
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| 11:23:10 | ripnetuk | Has anyone else found that plugging in the iRiver into a Linux box and THEN turning it on causes Linux to not pick it up? its fine if I turn it on first. (2.6) |
| 11:23:34 | Zagor | i did just that and it worked fine for me |
| 11:24:00 | ripnetuk | it used to work on my old distro (MDK 10.0) but now on MDK 10.1 it fails. I suspect UDEV is the culpret :) |
| 11:24:54 | Zagor | did you check dmesg or lsusb to see if the device was seen at all? |
| 11:28:06 | ripnetuk | not yet... lsusb sounds helpful ;) |
| 11:29:32 | ripnetuk | i basically wanted to know that other people using udev could get it working ok... |
| 11:29:47 | ripnetuk | will check lsusb tonight |
| 11:29:51 | ripnetuk | thanks :) |
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| 11:42:06 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn is today's AciD |
| 11:42:51 | amiconn | Grr, my DSL connection is sometimes flakey. I dunno why; T-Online blames T-Net and vice versa :-[ |
| 11:43:56 | amiconn | Zagor: I now sent an email concerning the shutdown problem, as well as putting my questions in the tracker. |
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| 12:27:42 | Zagor | amiconn: your disconnect message is "Nick collision from services". it doesn't sound like a connection problem. |
| 12:28:12 | amiconn | Nope. This is what I do when I reconnect after getting disconnected |
| 12:28:32 | amiconn | "/msg nickserv ghost amiconn <password>" |
| 12:29:10 | Zagor | aha |
| 12:29:30 | amiconn | It is definitely a connection problem, the DSL modem gets desynchronized (sync led becomes red), and the connection breaks because of that |
| 12:29:37 | Zagor | ok |
| 12:29:53 | amiconn | I contacted T-Net again, hopefully they find the cause |
| 12:31:58 | amiconn | *Once* I accidentally "ghosted" myself |
| 12:49:15 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Do you know whether the boot rom is also partially scrambled? |
| 12:50:06 | Lynx_ | what does the ghost do? |
| 12:50:24 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: the boot rom is unscrambled |
| 12:50:57 | [IDC]Dragon | have you gotten the dump already? |
| 12:51:23 | amiconn | Lynx_: If you registered your nick, and get disconnected, you can "ghost" your previous nick. This makes it go away immediately, instead only after the (reletively long, on freenode) timeout |
| 12:51:45 | Lynx_ | ah, ok |
| 12:52:43 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Nope, only asking preventively. |
| 12:53:39 | amiconn | I did not yet analyze the original bootrom completely, only small parts |
| 12:53:48 | [IDC]Dragon | I did |
| 12:54:05 | amiconn | (e.g. the part where the lcd lines are checked, to find I need to pull pb1..pb3) |
| 12:55:07 | [IDC]Dragon | I must have a commented disassembly somewhere |
| 12:56:05 | amiconn | Meanwhile it isn't hard ffor me to read SH1 disassembly as-is. |
| 12:56:47 | [IDC]Dragon | I started my flash adventure in the boot rom |
| 12:57:14 | [IDC]Dragon | I've been quite slow on it, took me a while |
| 12:59:03 | [IDC]Dragon | and I commented most of the lines, went thoroughly |
| 12:59:27 | [IDC]Dragon | found it, do you want it? |
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| 13:00:42 | amiconn | I did a similar thing with the MMC driver part of the Ondio firmware (Though I did the commenting the old-fashioned way - with a pen on a paper printout) |
| 13:01:17 | amiconn | Could be interesting, yes please. |
| 13:03:37 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, sent |
| 13:04:22 | [IDC]Dragon | I also ran it through an instruction set simulator |
| 13:05:55 | amiconn | If this odd Studio 20 really has a different boot rom, but the flash content is the same, I think flashing the same firmware .bin should be safe (as long as the alternative boot rom doesn't check a new checksum or such). The good thing is that both ROM version and archos fw version of this box are the same as mine |
| 13:06:51 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe it has a flaky rom |
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| 13:12:45 | amiconn | Imho that would be even more strange than a really different rom, as the boot ROM is internal to the CPU |
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| 14:24:45 | bobTHC | re |
| 14:29:27 | Lynx_ | is the tag database being worked on by anyone? |
| 14:32:12 | Zagor | yes, me |
| 14:32:51 | Lynx_ | Zagor: cool :-) |
| 14:33:03 | Zagor | but i want to release 2.4 before i commit this code |
| 14:33:23 | Lynx_ | Zagor: so it's progressed to a usable state already? |
| 14:33:34 | Zagor | yes |
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| 14:34:51 | Quelsaruk | hi |
| 14:34:52 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 14:35:01 | bobTHC | yo |
| 14:35:17 | bobTHC | so long time amigo ;) |
| 14:37:32 | Lynx_ | Zagor: but i guess it will be some time before 2.4 comes? |
| 14:37:54 | Quelsaruk | hi bobTHC |
| 14:37:56 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 14:37:59 | Zagor | no, 2.4 is due rather soon |
| 14:38:12 | Quelsaruk | christmas present? |
| 14:38:21 | Zagor | possibly |
| 14:38:25 | bobTHC | it's will bea agreat one |
| 14:39:06 | bobTHC | s/bea/be |
| 14:39:32 | Zagor | btw, i suggest we (developers) mark bugs we consider release critical priority 9. |
| 14:40:25 | Zagor | do we have any candidates for that right now? (I don't consider player flashing release-ready yet so that does not count) |
| 14:41:25 | bobTHC | :) |
| 14:47:47 | LinusN | i don't have any candidates |
| 14:48:33 | Lynx_ | Zagor: can i look in the wiki what the major changes towards 2.4 are? |
| 14:49:23 | LinusN | there are no major changes |
| 14:49:23 | dwihno | iriver suppoert ;) |
| 14:49:35 | LinusN | mainly bug fixes |
| 14:50:01 | Lynx_ | ok... |
| 14:50:59 | [IDC]Dragon | small bug fixes |
| 14:51:26 | [IDC]Dragon | we never had such a small step like the 2.4 release, if it happens now |
| 14:51:53 | [IDC]Dragon | anything visible to the user? |
| 14:52:26 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't dare to ask it a feature |
| 14:53:59 | Zagor | frequent releases are good, it brings the bug fixes to more users |
| 14:54:40 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm not argueing |
| 14:54:49 | Zagor | ok :) |
| 14:56:32 | [IDC]Dragon | the good thing is that that the documentation is still up to date |
| 14:57:14 | LinusN | except for the ondio stuff |
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| 14:58:07 | [IDC]Dragon | different topic: do you agree that a joint FAT cache is sufficient? |
| 14:58:34 | dwihno | LinusN: I forgot to congratulate you on your progress! I salute you (and you other HW ninjas out there, I am in envy of your knowledge!) |
| 14:58:47 | Zagor | a single cache, shared by all volumes? or a single cache, invalidated when you change volume? |
| 14:59:09 | [IDC]Dragon | then I'll add the volume to the struct, instead of duplicating it |
| 14:59:49 | [IDC]Dragon | shared cache, yes |
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| 15:00:22 | [IDC]Dragon | it's unlikely that you work with files on different volumes at the same time |
| 15:01:10 | Zagor | unless of course the playlist is on one volume and the actual song is on another |
| 15:01:34 | Zagor | but I agree a little performance penalty in such a case is acceptable |
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| 15:03:00 | [IDC]Dragon | the size of 32 sectors hasn't been determined by statistical analysis, I bet? |
| 15:03:13 | Zagor | no |
| 15:03:21 | Zagor | just a finger in the air :) |
| 15:03:49 | [IDC]Dragon | that's proven analysis ;-) |
| 15:04:43 | amiconn | I guess working with files from both volumes at once will occur quite often: playlists from one, track from the other; playlist control file, working with plugins... |
| 15:05:18 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, but sequentially |
| 15:05:18 | amiconn | Plus, the file/directory moving has to be cross-volume aware |
| 15:05:38 | [IDC]Dragon | which file moving? |
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| 15:20:01 | Zagor | gotta go |
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| 15:21:35 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: It's not yet available from any menu, but the rename() function is able to move a file to another directory as well. Of course this can't work across different volumes |
| 15:25:04 | [IDC]Dragon | then we either extend or drop that |
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| 16:01:57 | bobTHC | do you think it's possible to assign a fixed wide size and a special font (terminal like) when you reading .nfo files with txt viewer |
| 16:02:04 | bobTHC | ?? |
| 16:03:36 | Quelsaruk | so when you make a .nfo file you can format it so everyone reads it perfectly |
| 16:03:37 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 16:04:15 | bobTHC | the "standart" is 82 char wide |
| 16:04:17 | bobTHC | ;) |
| 16:04:39 | bobTHC | and terminal font (for ascii art displaying) |
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| 16:12:03 | bobTHC | what i said is clear or not ? |
| 16:12:23 | Quelsaruk | hmmm |
| 16:12:30 | bobTHC | lol |
| 16:12:32 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 16:12:39 | Quelsaruk | i think so |
| 16:12:47 | * | Quelsaruk grins |
| 16:13:12 | bobTHC | u kwow what i mean ;) |
| 16:13:20 | Quelsaruk | yes |
| 16:13:21 | Quelsaruk | i do |
| 16:15:06 | bobTHC | an example : http://www.nforce.nl/nfos/renderer/ls-black.php?id=81519 |
| 16:15:27 | bobTHC | it's better than 10 lines of explaination ;) |
| 16:18:32 | bobTHC | do you think it's possible when u open a .nfo file to be displayed like the exemple (of course it's not fit in the screen but with arrow keys) |
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| 16:38:52 | Quelsaruk | i think so |
| 16:38:58 | Quelsaruk | more or less |
| 16:39:13 | Quelsaruk | the screen is not as big as a computer's one |
| 16:39:17 | Quelsaruk | :P |
| 16:39:49 | bobTHC | lol |
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| 17:13:02 | bobTHC | re |
| 17:13:10 | Quelsaruk | re |
| 17:14:21 | bobTHC | fucking isp too much deconnection this afternoon |
| 17:14:45 | Quelsaruk | hehe |
| 17:21:05 | bobTHC | I fill a request form for what i ask (true nfo support) ? |
| 17:36:36 | Quelsaruk | : |
| 17:36:38 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 17:39:57 | bobTHC | i'm harassing u ? |
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| 17:40:48 | Quelsaruk | of course not! |
| 17:45:43 | Tang | Hello i wonder is there some contact with iRiver now? Can't understand this from logs... :/ |
| 17:46:56 | Quelsaruk | hi Tang, afaik, Linus is porting rockbox to iRiver |
| 17:47:10 | Tang | Hello Quelsaruk |
| 17:47:20 | Quelsaruk | yesterday he was playing with his iRiver, flashing it and so on :) |
| 17:47:25 | Tang | indeed i know this |
| 17:48:00 | Tang | but i read some logs |
| 17:48:02 | Tang | and sems |
| 17:48:56 | Tang | i cant' undestand if the compagny has been contacted (or had contacted Rbx)? |
| 17:49:07 | Tang | or are they only talking about Neuros? |
| 17:49:12 | Quelsaruk | i don't know |
| 17:49:39 | Quelsaruk | maybe LinusN or Bagder can help you |
| 17:50:00 | Tang | ok don't mind |
| 17:50:08 | Tang | thanks Quelsaruk |
| 17:50:11 | Tang | :) |
| 17:50:15 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 17:50:22 | Quelsaruk | you are welcome |
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| 17:55:19 | LinusN | Tang: which company? |
| 17:55:34 | Tang | Hello Linus |
| 17:56:00 | Tang | I could'nt understand if you are in contact with iRiver or only with neuros |
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| 18:05:36 | Quelsaruk | re |
| 18:06:05 | Tang | :) |
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| 18:29:45 | LinusN | Neuros have contacted us, nobody else |
| 18:34:29 | thegeek | how is the work on the bootloader going? |
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| 18:45:12 | Tang | ok thanks linus :) |
| 18:45:23 | Tang | i've to go |
| 18:45:39 | Tang | good evening |
| 18:47:41 | LinusN | thegeek: it's nearly done, but i won't have time to work on it until next year |
| 18:47:48 | LinusN | gotta go |
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| 19:31:34 | thegeek | thank god next year is only a few days off;) |
| 19:32:55 | Quelsaruk | hehe |
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| 20:51:30 | Tang | Ok Linus and all rockbox team |
| 20:51:52 | Tang | i f you don't check irc nor me |
| 20:52:12 | Tang | i wish you merry christhmas and happy new year |
| 20:52:15 | Tang | cheers |
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| 22:40:24 | [IDC]Dragon | hi again |
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| 22:50:34 | [IDC]Dragon | hi guys |
| 22:50:44 | LinusN | hi |
| 22:50:57 | [IDC]Dragon | I see requests forr beeping in recording mode |
| 22:51:28 | [IDC]Dragon | most likely possible by pulsing some mute or so |
| 22:51:52 | [IDC]Dragon | there is a patch for a battery warning, and keyclick |
| 22:52:06 | Zagor | i experimented with that some months ago. there's even a patch for it. it never turned out really well though. |
| 22:52:20 | [IDC]Dragon | the beep or the patch? |
| 22:52:31 | Zagor | both. i wrote the patch. |
| 22:52:42 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
| 22:53:35 | Zagor | I wonder if we could construct a single no-reservoir mp3 frame that we could loop for a beep effect |
| 22:53:54 | [IDC]Dragon | that's what the chip8 does |
| 22:54:10 | [IDC]Dragon | but won't help in recording mode |
| 22:54:12 | Zagor | oh, i didn't know that |
| 22:54:27 | Zagor | ah right, we are already recording |
| 22:54:56 | [IDC]Dragon | amicon,, master of MAS datasheet, do you read? |
| 22:55:16 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn, I mean |
| 22:55:40 | Zagor | well my patch didn't try beeping really, it was more focused on key clicks which failed to be consistent. it might be worth a try again. |
| 22:56:23 | [IDC]Dragon | doest the 100 Hz timer use a higher resolution we could poll for? |
| 22:57:00 | LinusN | yes, but it restarts |
| 22:57:35 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, but we could modulo-poll |
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| 22:58:05 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't want to "waste" an extra timer for this |
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| 23:00:27 | LinusN | still, just turning down the volume to 0 for a few tenths of a second when starting/stopping the recording might be enough |
| 23:01:31 | [IDC]Dragon | doing it 1000 times on and off may beep |
| 23:01:47 | Zagor | yes it will |
| 23:01:49 | [IDC]Dragon | perhaps no timer is needed, just the I2C delay |
| 23:02:11 | Zagor | exactly |
| 23:02:26 | * | [IDC]Dragon flexes |
| 23:04:23 | [IDC]Dragon | mpeg_beep() ? |
| 23:05:10 | Zagor | perhaps dac_beep() since it really has nothing to do with mpeg |
| 23:06:02 | LinusN | reboot time, cu |
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| 23:06:05 | * | [IDC]Dragon discovers such a module |
| 23:06:15 | [IDC]Dragon | never been there |
| 23:06:26 | Zagor | :) |
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| 23:06:51 | [IDC]Dragon | recorders have that as well? |
| 23:07:16 | Zagor | ah, no |
| 23:07:53 | [IDC]Dragon | just stumbled over the #ifdef |
| 23:07:57 | Zagor | maybe mas_beep() then |
| 23:08:35 | [IDC]Dragon | strictly speaking, mas is a layer too deep |
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| 23:08:57 | Zagor | yeah, you're right |
| 23:11:19 | [IDC]Dragon | back to mpeg_beep() ? |
| 23:12:16 | Zagor | i'd be fine with just a generic beep(). after all, we'll implement it differently on the irivers for instance (i.e. not in the mpeg-related code) |
| 23:14:13 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, I'll call it beep and place it into mpeg.c, where to put the prototype? |
| 23:15:33 | Zagor | how about we call it mpeg_beep for now, put the prototype in mpeg.h and then we rename it later. we are going to have to change a lot of things in the mpeg/audio code anyway. |
| 23:16:19 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, ok |
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| 23:31:26 | [IDC]Dragon | it beeps |
| 23:37:03 | Zagor | nice |
| 23:37:29 | [IDC]Dragon | rather low, sounds like a ship |
| 23:37:45 | [IDC]Dragon | but definitely a feedback |
| 23:38:33 | ripnetUK | did you lot manage to get the MAS chip to make a beep? i wanted to do that ages ago... how did u do it? play a mp3 of a beep, or somehow program it to make a beep? |
| 23:39:12 | [IDC]Dragon | I just toggle a register |
| 23:39:27 | Zagor | toggle volume on/off fast makes a click, with repeated clickly makes a beep |
| 23:39:42 | [IDC]Dragon | playing an mp3 snipplet doesn't work in recording mode |
| 23:39:53 | ripnetUK | :) smart |
| 23:40:10 | [IDC]Dragon | not really, gimme a break |
| 23:40:19 | ripnetUK | does that mean it only works when there is sound anyway?> |
| 23:40:48 | Zagor | ripnetUK: no |
| 23:41:04 | ripnetUK | im interested because i spent some (unsuccessful) time trying to hack it to pop a beep sample into hte mp3 buffer... was beyond what i could do tho |
| 23:42:35 | [IDC]Dragon | now it's pretty easy, see the metronome or chip8 plugin |
| 23:44:43 | Zagor | yay, poland derailed the eu software patent steamtrain this afternoon |
| 23:45:09 | [IDC]Dragon | \o/ |
| 23:45:41 | [IDC]Dragon | although I never liked their EU attitude... |
| 23:46:06 | ze | sounds like how people played samples through the SID chip on c64 |
| 23:46:08 | Zagor | now let's hope luxembourg does a better job with their presidency than the dutch did... |
| 23:46:22 | Zagor | ze: yes, that's the same method |
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| 23:46:35 | ze | fun |
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| 23:54:03 | [IDC]Dragon | it beeps, but doesn't record any more :( |
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| 23:54:29 | [IDC]Dragon | diddy's wild register hacking seems to have side effects |
| 23:54:47 | Zagor | oops :) |
| 23:54:59 | [IDC]Dragon | I took his sequence: mas_codec_writereg(0, 0); mas_codec_writereg(0, 1); |
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| 23:57:34 | [IDC]Dragon | MASter amiconn is not around? |
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