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00:16:15 | markun | I was converting some unicode bdf fonts, the font did not contain many chars, but because the lastchar was very high the font turned out very big. |
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00:22:27 | [IDC]Dragon | codec registers are not readable, I'd need a shadow value to restore |
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00:22:42 | markun | I wanted to add some unicode support to rockbox, but I think we then need a more efficient way to store the font in memory (and in the file) |
00:23:26 | [IDC]Dragon | unicode sounds ambitious |
00:23:44 | markun | There are very nice free unicode bdf fonts |
00:24:26 | [IDC]Dragon | how about restricting yourself to the ISO part? |
00:24:38 | markun | The filenames in FAT-32 are stored in UTF-16, so the unicode value of the chars can be computed very easily. |
00:25:28 | Zagor | markun: use the -s and -l parameters to limit the number of chars to convert |
00:26:14 | markun | That would be an option, but I would like it more generic. |
00:27:00 | Zagor | would like what more generic? |
00:27:47 | markun | the font support. Now it just makes an array of lastchar - firstchar * size of the struct. |
00:28:19 | markun | If there are just a few glyphs but some with very high values it's not a very efficient way to do it. |
00:28:33 | Zagor | right. we could add an extra translation table. |
00:29:48 | markun | Mabe an array that takes unicode_value >> 8 as an index and points to NULL or an array with the glyphs? |
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00:31:35 | Zagor | that would still allocate 256 glyphs for each unicode page |
00:31:38 | markun | Maybe I should just try it and put the patch on the wiki if anyone finds it useful |
00:33:09 | markun | Maybe the second array should again be an array of pointers, NULL if the glyph does not exist and the glyph struct if it does. |
00:33:52 | markun | Don't know if the saved space is worth the trouble |
00:35:12 | Zagor | i'd be interested in seeing the patch if you feel like testing it |
00:36:15 | markun | Yes, I would. But I should first chage convbdf to so it creates a font with only the glyphs in the bdf |
00:36:48 | Zagor | yeah |
00:39:41 | markun | I'm also interested in adding BiDi support and proper rendering of arabic, that will be a challenge :) |
00:40:14 | markun | Don't know if there are any arab users of rockbox.. |
00:42:26 | Zagor | there are some |
00:43:13 | Zagor | if you want to dig deep into the font handling, you may want to grab the chinese port too. it uses a very dynamic system with a font cache, so not even the whole font is in ram |
00:43:41 | markun | Didn't know there was a chinese port |
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00:48:15 | Zagor | it's not hosted by us, it's written by a separate group of people |
00:48:35 | Zagor | i'll see if i can find it |
00:48:50 | markun | I found it |
00:48:56 | markun | And joined the group |
00:49:31 | Zagor | tat tang submitted patch #924904, which contains the changes |
00:50:31 | Zagor | I wish I'd had more time to look at his patch :( |
00:50:52 | [IDC]Dragon | beep committed, I need to sleep now |
00:51:06 | [IDC]Dragon | will check tomorrow what I broke :-/ |
00:51:31 | Zagor | :) |
00:51:39 | [IDC]Dragon | bye! |
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00:52:48 | markun | I will also go to sleep now. Next week I will have more time. |
00:53:09 | markun | Good night Zagor |
00:53:25 | Zagor | good night |
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00:55:06 | dwihno | Good morning everyone! |
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09:11:28 | |XO2| | hi :) |
09:11:37 | dwihno | Wwll hello there!!! :) |
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09:15:34 | amiconn | Good morning |
09:22:01 | |XO2| | :) |
09:22:18 | |XO2| | im pretty decent with asm "cracking" :) |
09:22:33 | |XO2| | i dont know if i can help in any way...but im here to show support :) |
09:22:59 | Zagor | |XO2|: are you good at plain C as well? |
09:23:13 | |XO2| | i can read it... |
09:23:19 | |XO2| | i cant write it |
09:23:57 | Zagor | ok. we write nearly everything in C, only very few assembler snippets |
09:24:12 | |XO2| | plus the way your using C...probably goes well beond my knowledge... |
09:27:19 | |XO2| | i can test stuff but i guess you dont really need...alpha testers or anything... |
09:27:31 | |XO2| | btw i have a iriver H320 |
09:30:20 | Zagor | ok, we'll probably want testing on that eventually |
09:30:29 | Zagor | I guess you haven't taken it apart? :) |
09:31:08 | Zagor | i'm curious about the lcd |
09:39:28 | |XO2| | no i probably wont take it apart :) |
09:39:40 | |XO2| | we have some pictures of it though |
09:40:18 | |XO2| | if i took it apart then i would have the done the internal power mod and enabled USBOTG for US H3xx |
09:40:52 | |XO2| | instead i invented the external power mod and wrote a tutorial on it...http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=7700 |
09:43:26 | Zagor | nice one |
09:44:35 | Zagor | has anyone detailed the differences btwn US and "normal" h300? |
09:45:53 | Zagor | or is the usb power the only difference? |
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10:01:06 | |XO2| | yea |
10:01:21 | |XO2| | there are actual parts missing in the US version... |
10:02:11 | |XO2| | transistors, resistors, choke coil, capacitators....one of the guys on iriver forums open his up and has taken some detailed pics...so we have internal pics of the h300 US and the H300 "normal" |
10:03:01 | |XO2| | there about 6-12 parts missing in the H320...most them of them are related to USBOTG...im guessing to regulate the power feed... |
10:03:45 | Zagor | if you can find links that would be great. we'll need to know this stuff for the port. |
10:05:47 | |XO2| | i've saved all the pics :) |
10:05:56 | |XO2| | just let me know when you need them :) |
10:08:48 | Zagor | feel free to put them in the wiki: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents |
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10:26:08 | Zagor | hi |
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10:28:29 | |XO| | shit i have an exam in like 3 hours :( |
10:28:56 | Bagder | that's 2 more hours of irc! ;-) |
10:29:02 | bobTHC | good luck |XO2| |
10:29:20 | bobTHC | ^^lol |
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10:35:17 | amiconn | hi [IDC]Dragon |
10:35:44 | [IDC]Dragon | 'morning |
10:36:13 | amiconn | Yesterday you wanted to ask me something... |
10:36:37 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, I wanted to discuss the MAS beep |
10:36:52 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe you have a better idea |
10:36:58 | amiconn | I already had a quick look at this, but I did not yet try it. |
10:37:54 | [IDC]Dragon | this beep has to be over before starting the recording, but maybe there's a way of beeping that doesn't go into the recording, so we can beep in parallel |
10:38:02 | amiconn | The way it works is easy to understand. You quickly switch the DAC on & off, while the ADC is switched off. This also switches the reference voltage on & off, which causes clicking |
10:38:15 | amiconn | See MAS datasheet, p.41 |
10:38:40 | [IDC]Dragon | I briefly looked at the register |
10:39:14 | [IDC]Dragon | also it would be good if the beep is somewhat under volume control, too |
10:39:16 | amiconn | There are 2 shortcomings: (1) The beep is only audible from the Earphone output, not from S/PDIF (can't try myself, but I am quite sure) |
10:40:14 | amiconn | (2) The beep interferes with recording, at least if prerecording is on. There will be a gap of the beep's length (and probably some clicking caused by switching the ADC off and on again) |
10:40:54 | amiconn | (2) is probably not valid when recording from S/PDIF though - I can try that |
10:40:59 | [IDC]Dragon | oh, yes, I forgot prerecording |
10:41:40 | amiconn | I also looked for a way to beep some time ago (I admit that I didn' |
10:41:49 | amiconn | t do that thoroughly though) |
10:42:24 | amiconn | Unfortunately (for this application) the MAS employs non-disableable de-clicking in many places |
10:42:30 | [IDC]Dragon | neither did I ;-) |
10:43:34 | [IDC]Dragon | it was a quick-hack |
10:43:47 | [IDC]Dragon | but a start |
10:44:26 | amiconn | Btw: you *can* read the mas codec registers, but imho using a shadow variable is better anyway |
10:45:04 | [IDC]Dragon | I think I can only read those labeled as status registers |
10:45:19 | [IDC]Dragon | reading it was my first try |
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10:46:48 | amiconn | I can think of 2 other methods to indicate recording/pause status, that may be less disturbing to the recording: |
10:48:03 | |XO| | thanks :) |
10:48:17 | amiconn | (1) Making it beep (right channel only) by using the "invert right channel" bit (codec register 0x0E). This will depend on the current volume though |
10:48:22 | |XO| | man i like computers so much yet my major is psychology...how wierd is that... |
10:48:57 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought about that, too |
10:49:21 | amiconn | (2) Use the idea of "acoustic blinking" as discussed on the ml. As long as the red led is flashing, the output volume could alternate between normal and zero with the same frequency |
10:49:58 | [IDC]Dragon | both rely on an input signal |
10:50:04 | amiconn | yup. |
10:50:56 | amiconn | But: What would be the sense of recording without an input signal? |
10:51:30 | Zagor | it's not unusual to have silence before the recording |
10:51:33 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe your subject is silent before the recording starts? |
10:51:36 | amiconn | I can't imagine a way to make it beep at the digital out as well, as that involves the DSP |
10:51:59 | [IDC]Dragon | I think we can neglect digital out here |
10:52:07 | Zagor | i agree |
10:52:25 | [IDC]Dragon | doesn't work with today's voice files neither |
10:52:43 | amiconn | If you want to start as soon as there is some signal, volume triggered recording is much better suited imho, and afair it's already on the way.. |
10:54:15 | Zagor | volume triggered recording is very difficult to use for blind people |
10:54:49 | amiconn | Why is that? Aren't the parameters set from a menu, like the rest of the recording parameters is? |
10:55:18 | Zagor | yes, but normally you don't know how sensitive you want it. it's an iterative process. |
10:56:22 | amiconn | Hmm. I wonder how do blind people adjust the recording level |
10:57:59 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Did you try whether it beeps when you leave the ADC settings as-is, and only toggle bit 0 (DAC power)? |
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11:00:48 | amiconn | Concerning your question about not wasting an extra timer (for variable frequency beeps) - remember that all timers have 2 interrupt sources, GRA match and GRB match |
11:01:20 | [IDC]Dragon | (bit0) I tried, it didn't beep. |
11:02:12 | amiconn | Ah, so this is really caused by the reference voltage switching (reference voltage stays on as long either ADC or DAC are switched on) |
11:03:17 | Zagor | you could try only toggling the volume to max/min. it often causes a pop. it would not affect recording. |
11:03:46 | [IDC]Dragon | max might be a bit agressive... |
11:05:10 | amiconn | Hmm, I just tried the beep. For me, it doesn't sound like a beep, but rather like, erm... |
11:06:16 | [IDC]Dragon | for the purpose, it doesn't have to be a nice, clean sound |
11:06:38 | amiconn | Zagor: Did you try that? I wonder if it does, because (quote from the datasheet): "In order to avoid noise due to large |
11:06:38 | amiconn | changes of the setting, the actual setting is internally low-pass filtered. |
11:06:41 | amiconn | " |
11:07:05 | Zagor | I don't remember if I tried it back when I was experimenting with key clicks. |
11:08:49 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: With prerecording, there is a click followed by a gap in the recording, as I though |
11:08:52 | amiconn | t |
11:09:21 | [IDC]Dragon | so we should at least disable the beep if prerecording |
11:09:29 | [IDC]Dragon | if we find no better |
11:10:54 | Zagor | i think we should test the "volume blink". the input dac is pretty noisy, so it might be audible even when there is no significant signal |
11:11:13 | amiconn | Hmm. If we can live with the fact that it only beeps with an input signal present, maybe the DSP volume will be the best solution |
11:11:51 | amiconn | With that it is possible to revert the polarity (quickly switching between -1 and +1) |
11:13:49 | amiconn | Argh, not possible :( |
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11:26:19 | kurzhaarrocker | Funny: I bought a dvbt receiver that seems to have open source firmware. |
11:26:43 | [IDC]Dragon | rockbox? |
11:27:02 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
11:27:43 | kurzhaarrocker | No it's the original siemens firmware. I just found the link and wonder wether it's the entire firmware or jus a paort of it. |
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11:37:20 | Josh_File | Anybody up? |
11:37:36 | kurzhaarrocker | well, a bit |
11:38:49 | Josh_File | Only 1 Days to Christmas excluding today |
11:40:17 | Josh_File | My Recorder 15 should be arriving today |
11:41:03 | Josh_File | Then I need to go to my eletronics shop and buy a Adaptor, Gonna be a hell of alot of people |
11:41:50 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: What do you think? Should we implement "volume blinking", and remove the beeping again? Try beeping the right channel? Or simply disable the beep when prerecording? |
11:42:53 | amiconn | Josh_File: I'm curious whether this rec 15 is USB2.0 or USB1.1. The 15's are rumoured to exist in both variants... |
11:43:12 | Josh_File | USB 2.0 advertized |
11:43:32 | kurzhaarrocker | Really? I thought only the recorder 20 were usb2.0 |
11:44:17 | Josh_File | Heres the page, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5735247305&ssPageName=ADME:B:BN:US:1 |
11:45:07 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: we should try to beep different, if possible |
11:45:29 | amiconn | Josh_File: Looks like it is USB1.1 |
11:46:02 | [IDC]Dragon | I think only a few rec15s had USB2 |
11:46:13 | Josh_File | Is the only diffrence speed? |
11:46:15 | [IDC]Dragon | I had no luck either |
11:46:21 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
11:46:28 | Josh_File | I can wait |
11:46:28 | [IDC]Dragon | well, you need a driver |
11:46:29 | Bagder | Josh_File: but A LOT OF speed |
11:46:34 | Josh_File | Damn |
11:47:02 | [IDC]Dragon | it's one minute per album vs. 10 sec per album |
11:47:15 | kurzhaarrocker | Unfortunately usb1.1 is to slow for streaming video... |
11:47:24 | Josh_File | Wait should I do? |
11:48:22 | kurzhaarrocker | That depends on how you intend to use your jukebox. If it's for listening only you probably can live with usb1.1 |
11:48:32 | amiconn | Josh_File: Look at the first pic, at the right border you can read "15 GB USB Hard Disk". If it were 2.0, it would most likely read "15 GB USB 2.0 Hard Disk" with botth the 15 and the 2.0 printed in red |
11:49:51 | Josh_File | Heres a email he sent |
11:49:52 | Josh_File | Hello, |
11:49:52 | Josh_File | I plugged it in my USB, and it says Hi-speed device plugged into a non-hi speed USB port " or something like that, so I assume it was USB2 like all of my other ones. I hope so.... |
11:49:52 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Josh_File |
11:49:52 | Josh_File | |
11:49:52 | Josh_File | Shawn |
11:51:04 | amiconn | Hmm. I'd say you have to check yourself to be sure. Maybe archos didn't make different faceplates for the 2 rec 15 variants. |
11:52:33 | Josh_File | Anyway, I'll only load 6 gigs of music 1 time, Only when I get a new album I'll need to load then |
11:55:06 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: All other methods to beep I could find in the datasheet are volume dependent (if they work at all) |
11:55:48 | |XO| | so when can we expect a web browser for the iriver? |
11:55:59 | Josh_File | Do you refer to the recorder as my Rockbox, or my Archos? |
11:56:29 | Josh_File | As in, Rockbox Recorder 15, or Archos Recorder 15? |
11:57:47 | Josh_File | Someone might wanna add these plugins to the list, http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm |
11:58:11 | amiconn | Well, it depends, although I'd never call the box "Rockbox" |
11:59:22 | amiconn | Josh_File: These plugins are not included in the main rockbox sources for a reason. |
11:59:29 | Josh_File | Why? |
11:59:47 | Josh_File | Whats wrong with them? |
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12:00:09 | amiconn | I won't go into details here, and it was not my decision either. If you want to find out, you can check both the irc backlogs and the ml archive |
12:00:57 | [IDC]Dragon | in short, we don't want anonymous authors |
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12:01:33 | [IDC]Dragon | publishing code has some responsibilities |
12:03:37 | amiconn | These plugins don't run as is with current rockbox builds either, they need source code adjustments |
12:05:07 | Josh_File | Yay its now the 24 of december |
12:05:18 | Josh_File | X-Mas eve |
12:10:31 | Josh_File | Can someone test this link for me, http://miikrr.com/upload/587.jpg |
12:12:25 | Josh_File | Wow, 10000 By 10000 Image |
12:14:09 | Josh_File | Don't goto that image, freezes your browser |
12:21:05 | amiconn | Josh_File: No problem here with firefox, only that it takes a while |
12:22:07 | Josh_File | Freezed mine |
12:22:20 | Josh_File | You have text to image installed? |
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12:23:06 | Josh_File | Incase you don't know, thats a firefox extention |
12:23:12 | amiconn | nope |
12:24:03 | amiconn | Didn't know, and don't have it installed, that is |
12:25:04 | Josh_File | Well I'm bored, So Im gonna put a gigantic image in my sig in a place were almost everyone uses Text to imagr |
12:25:54 | Josh_File | It'll crash all thier browsers......... |
12:32:35 | Josh_File | Nobody likes you, everyone left you, thier all out without you having fun. |
12:34:45 | Josh_File | The words of my annoying friend as I left him alone with my computer |
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13:09:34 | Josh_File | Whats the diffrence between Badger_ and Badger? |
13:12:11 | Zagor | nothing |
13:14:12 | dwihno | _ |
13:14:13 | dwihno | :) |
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13:21:39 | Josh_File | Ok, I'm not going to sleep to christmas, Whats some music that'll keep me awake |
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13:43:53 | zeekoe | hi |
13:44:53 | Josh_File | Ok, I'm not going to sleep to christmas, Whats some music that'll keep me awake |
13:45:00 | Josh_File | Oh and Hi |
13:45:04 | zeekoe | :) |
13:45:11 | zeekoe | are you sure? |
13:45:19 | Josh_File | yes |
13:45:21 | zeekoe | christmas is like 3 days away |
13:45:26 | Josh_File | Its X-mas eve here |
13:45:29 | zeekoe | nah |
13:45:32 | zeekoe | where do you live |
13:45:37 | Josh_File | New Zealand |
13:45:40 | Josh_File | GMT +12 |
13:46:11 | [IDC]Dragon | then you have Dec 23 |
13:46:19 | zeekoe | http://www.worldtimeserver.com/time.aspx?locationid=NZ |
13:46:20 | [IDC]Dragon | not 24 |
13:46:35 | zeekoe | that page says it's 23 dec there |
13:46:37 | zeekoe | here it's 22 |
13:46:44 | [IDC]Dragon | better go to sleep... |
13:46:45 | zeekoe | yup |
13:46:58 | Josh_File | Ok then my Windows clock is fucked |
13:47:02 | zeekoe | lol |
13:47:09 | zeekoe | turn on ntp |
13:47:48 | zeekoe | 1) doubleclick the clock |
13:47:56 | zeekoe | 2) press internet time |
13:48:01 | Josh_File | I update and I get a error |
13:48:02 | zeekoe | 2) press update now |
13:48:08 | zeekoe | hmyeah, me too :./ |
13:49:18 | Josh_File | Damn it is the 23rd |
13:49:20 | zeekoe | okay, windows time sync sux0rz |
13:49:59 | zeekoe | then you have go to work tomorrow, i guess... |
13:50:04 | Josh_File | Oh well, not going to sleep to X-mas, Made bet with friend thinking it was 24th |
13:50:14 | zeekoe | :| |
13:50:42 | Josh_File | Work, Ha I'm......oh wait <_< >_> runs away |
13:51:11 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
13:51:11 | * | Josh_File Runs away |
13:51:20 | zeekoe | about the music: any music can keep you awake... if you turn up the volume |
13:51:24 | zeekoe | :? |
13:51:43 | Josh_File | Can I taser the Neighbers for complaining? |
13:51:57 | zeekoe | hmm you got a point |
13:52:08 | zeekoe | why did you run? |
13:53:31 | Josh_File | there was number value were those dots should be, If i say it, I'll get no respect from the other users |
13:55:56 | Josh_File | BRB, need to get some caffine into my system |
13:57:38 | Josh_File | Ok I'm back, 3 of these mints, http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/candy/6e27/ |
13:59:29 | zeekoe | you speak in riddles, sir |
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14:00:14 | zeekoe | 1 mint = 1 cup... strong stuff :) |
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14:02:42 | Josh_File | Listening to green day at the moment |
14:02:52 | Josh_File | ST Jimmy |
14:04:47 | Josh_File | My heart hurts :( |
14:05:24 | Josh_File | Now I just threw up |
14:12:39 | Josh_File | You Use Opera |
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14:23:08 | Josh_File | :( Nobody likes me, everyone left me, thier all out without me having fun :( |
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14:56:43 | NSplit | niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
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15:11:40 | NHeal | niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
15:11:40 | NJoin | Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010732484pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) |
15:15:09 | zeekoe | hm... it seems i forgot that i was on irc |
15:15:14 | zeekoe | :-X |
15:15:28 | zeekoe | greenday is nice |
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15:18:25 | | Quit zeekoe (Nick collision from services.) |
15:18:31 | Josh_File | Ah, zeekoe2? |
15:18:31 | | Nick zeekoe2 is now known as zeekoe (me@zeekoe.kabel.utwente.nl) |
15:18:40 | Josh_File | What the hell? |
15:18:46 | zeekoe | ? |
15:19:06 | zeekoe | why hell? |
15:19:09 | zeekoe | what about it? |
15:19:47 | Josh_File | Zeekoe2, and Zeekoe, whats up with that? |
15:20:06 | zeekoe | where's zeekoe2? |
15:20:10 | zeekoe | i don't see him |
15:20:11 | zeekoe | ;-) |
15:20:22 | zeekoe | i did a whois on myself |
15:20:30 | dwihno | zeekoe: neee! u kan niet hebben |
15:20:30 | zeekoe | and then got disconnected |
15:20:41 | dwihno | hooray! een broodjeswinkel \o( |
15:20:43 | zeekoe | dwihno: aah! that looks dutch |
15:20:48 | zeekoe | \o/ |
15:22:07 | zeekoe | Josh_File: but freenode didnt know i got disconnected, so when i reloginned i had to change nick to zeekoe2, kill zeekoe, an /nick zeekoe again |
15:22:19 | zeekoe | dwihno: why can't i have a bread store? |
15:22:28 | zeekoe | or shop, whatever |
15:22:29 | dwihno | Dit is een broodje, niet een fucking fruitsalade!!! |
15:22:44 | zeekoe | :| |
15:22:48 | dwihno | Mak ik een klein beetje hebben? |
15:22:52 | dwihno | :) |
15:22:58 | zeekoe | lol |
15:23:25 | zeekoe | where do you get that from? |
15:23:37 | zeekoe | babelfish? |
15:23:40 | Josh_File | Damn, Banned from 3 message boards in under 10 minites |
15:23:51 | zeekoe | santy.a? |
15:24:10 | zeekoe | or were you just spamming too much |
15:24:17 | Josh_File | Santy.a, ouch |
15:24:40 | dwihno | zeekoe: nah, just some basic phrases I've learned |
15:25:13 | zeekoe | dwihno: why do you learn dutch? |
15:25:21 | dwihno | zeekoe: it's fun :) |
15:25:31 | dwihno | it's like mixing german with swedish |
15:26:10 | zeekoe | dwihno: btw, "neee! u kan niet hebben" should be "nee! u kan _het_ niet hebben" (or replace 'het' by any noun) |
15:26:20 | zeekoe | dwihno: hm... dunno swedish |
15:26:39 | zeekoe | dwihno: you're from the usa? |
15:29:16 | zeekoe | Josh_File: what greenday album are you listening? |
15:30:24 | Josh_File | Amercian Idiot |
15:32:55 | zeekoe | ah, the newest... i have it somewhere lying around too |
15:33:17 | zeekoe | never felt the need to listen to it... |
15:33:42 | Josh_File | Its quite good |
15:36:51 | Josh_File | Yay, Banned 5 Times withen 20 Minites |
15:37:34 | * | Josh_File chomps on Zeekoe's Brain, Josh_File has chomped on 21 brains |
15:39:26 | zeekoe | why do you get banned? |
15:39:31 | dwihno | zeekoe: nah, sweden |
15:39:32 | zeekoe | is it fun? |
15:39:49 | dwihno | it's cold |
15:40:00 | dwihno | today the weather brings you a massive snow storm across the country |
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15:40:07 | dwihno | the polar bears are really angry :( |
15:40:29 | Josh_File | Being a jackass and spamming this image, http://world11.000k2.com/587.jpg |
15:41:10 | Zagor | Josh_File: don't be a jackass. we're not very fond of those here. |
15:41:21 | zeekoe | dwihno: kan jag ha en skiva av bröd? |
15:42:02 | zeekoe | oh yeah, that image |
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15:49:17 | Josh_File | I have a Voice on #curl, yay! |
15:50:10 | Josh_File | Huh Midk? |
15:50:25 | zeekoe | aah, Josh_File, do something useful with your life! |
15:51:18 | Josh_File | What made you say that zeekoe? |
15:51:56 | Josh_File | I need a good username, can anyone think of one? |
15:56:21 | zeekoe | about your first question: well... it seems you're only spamming forums to get banned; getting voice on curl and uh... well, you should be sleeping now :) |
15:57:37 | Josh_File | I stopped spamming, I did it because I was very pissed at somthing |
15:58:51 | Josh_File | At least I didn't spam this IRC room |
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16:04:49 | g1zzmo | hi all, I have a feature query or someone to point me in the correct direction, is there any software out there that would trick mediaplayer 10 into thinking the archos jukebox is a compatable device for Syncing? would be fantastic to be able to sync my playlists/podcasts automaticly |
16:06:03 | Zagor | i have no idea what mediaplayer 10 does or wants. it seems silly to require the device to do anything special. it's just a harddisk... |
16:08:11 | Josh_File | Is the compatible with Itunes, or Does it only work with Ipods? |
16:08:50 | Zagor | the archos is a harddisk. it is compatible with all programs that read and writes files. |
16:09:21 | Josh_File | Cool |
16:09:48 | Josh_File | Can you use it as a auctal hard-drive, as in install programs on it |
16:11:08 | Zagor | yes |
16:11:53 | Josh_File | My dog was once dead, But I poked it in its stomach and It woke up from its death' |
16:14:06 | Josh_File | If you don't get it, the dog was sleeping |
16:15:24 | zeekoe | Josh_FileAt least I didn't spam this IRC room |
16:16:01 | zeekoe | :) |
16:17:07 | zeekoe | how did you get to the dog at once? or does your dog have a jhard drive? |
16:17:46 | Josh_File | uh, What the hell? |
16:18:18 | * | zeekoe weird too |
16:18:36 | * | Josh_File is weirder than zeekoe |
16:18:46 | zeekoe | you just started talking about your dog out of nothing, and i was wondering why |
16:20:37 | midk | * Josh_File is weirder than zeekoe -> i don't think anyone disagrees :) |
16:20:38 | Josh_File | It just came to my mind. |
16:20:47 | Josh_File | </nick>zeekoe_ |
16:21:01 | | Nick Josh_File is now known as zeekoe_ (Josh_@222-153-56-11.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
16:21:01 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK zeekoe_ |
16:21:13 | zeekoe_ | HA, now Im not Josh_File! |
16:21:43 | midk | stop that, it's incredibly annoying |
16:21:56 | zeekoe_ | God, I'm just proving I'm wierder than zeekoe_ |
16:22:00 | | Nick zeekoe is now known as Josh_File (me@zeekoe.kabel.utwente.nl) |
16:22:10 | | Nick zeekoe_ is now known as zeekoe (Josh_@222-153-56-11.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
16:22:10 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK zeekoe |
16:22:23 | | Nick Josh_File is now known as zeekoe_ (me@zeekoe.kabel.utwente.nl) |
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16:22:59 | zeekoe | Uh, Zeekoe, whats you identify password? |
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16:23:32 | midk | zagor: is the iRiver LCD 160x128? |
16:23:34 | | Nick zeekoe_ is now known as zeekoe (me@zeekoe.kabel.utwente.nl) |
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16:23:43 | Bagder | midk: yes |
16:23:47 | Josh-File | Ok |
16:24:06 | midk | thought it was a lot bigger than that |
16:24:34 | | Nick Josh-File is now known as god (Josh_@222-153-56-11.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
16:24:41 | god | Yay I'm playing god! |
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16:43:24 | god | MooMaunder Fingered me 0_o |
16:43:32 | god | YOU FINGERED GOD! |
16:47:12 | | Nick god is now known as Satan (Josh_@222-153-56-11.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
16:55:35 | | Join mecraw [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) |
16:55:54 | Satan | Hi, Im satan Mecraw |
16:59:25 | Zagor | that's enough. this channel is for rockbox development, not mindless chatter. pick another channel for that. |
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17:11:20 | amiconn | Bagder, Zagor: Did someone do a hi-res scan of the iRiver front already, like those of the Archos jukeboxes? I could need one for improving the Win32 sim... |
17:11:36 | Zagor | not me |
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17:14:28 | [IDC]Dragon | phew, rockbox compiles again, with multivolume preparation and without |
17:14:50 | Zagor | nice |
17:15:18 | [IDC]Dragon | official penalty of passing the FAT instance pointer around: |
17:15:43 | [IDC]Dragon | 448 bytes code |
17:16:23 | [IDC]Dragon | not much, considering this is practically everywhere in fat.c |
17:18:11 | [IDC]Dragon | each function needs to know which volume to work on, so I have to pass a struct bpb* to practically each |
17:19:02 | Satan | If rockbox was a retail product, how much would it be worth? |
17:19:43 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: i agree, not much |
17:19:53 | [IDC]Dragon | plus 80 bytes penalty for using fat_bpb as a pointer within the functions, not as a struct any more |
17:20:15 | [IDC]Dragon | that would have been to hairy to make conditional |
17:20:22 | [IDC]Dragon | too hairy |
17:20:45 | Zagor | yeah |
17:21:17 | [IDC]Dragon | I haven't "wired" the file handling yet |
17:24:07 | [IDC]Dragon | as amiconn pointed out, I distinguish between volumes and drives |
17:24:23 | Zagor | oh? |
17:24:33 | Satan | If rockbox was a retail product, how much would it be worth? |
17:24:47 | [IDC]Dragon | so you can mount a volume on the same drive, or another |
17:25:19 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: right, but do they look different to the file system? |
17:25:33 | Zagor | Satan: who can tell? how long is a string? |
17:25:50 | [IDC]Dragon | no, only down below |
17:25:55 | Satan | A string is as long as the sting itself |
17:25:58 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: ok |
17:27:22 | [IDC]Dragon | it's just the 2 new parameters of the mount: resulting volume, from disk and start sector |
17:28:34 | [IDC]Dragon | (start sector was already there) |
17:30:32 | amiconn | Just a thought: multi-volume support might in fact prove very useful later, in case rockbox is ported to iRiver H3xx, and wants/needs to support USB on the go... |
17:31:50 | | Quit zeekoe () |
17:32:27 | [IDC]Dragon | the way bigger part is to write the USB stack... |
17:33:28 | amiconn | Hmm. |
17:34:10 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 minute and 9 seconds at the last flood |
17:34:10 | * | Satan head exploaded from technical details |
17:37:43 | Satan | Just testing somthing |
17:40:38 | Satan | Can someone please post somthing |
17:42:11 | Zagor | we discussed that a bit during lunch yesterday. adding usb host support will be royally painful. |
17:45:01 | Satan | Can someone tell me if this is a USB 1.1 or a 2.0 model? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5735247305&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6 |
17:46:04 | midk | it says usb2 right in the title. |
17:46:26 | Zagor | Satan: ask the seller |
17:46:30 | midk | but in the body it says it's a 15, title says it's a 20 |
17:46:32 | Satan | But all the experts tell me its usb 1.1 from the pictures |
17:46:36 | midk | 20 = usb2, 15=not usb2 |
17:46:57 | Satan | Sellers Email, |
17:46:58 | Satan | Hello, |
17:46:58 | Satan | I plugged it in my USB, and it says Hi-speed device plugged into a non-hi speed USB port " or something like that, so I assume it was USB2 like all of my other ones. I hope so.... |
17:46:58 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Satan |
17:46:58 | Satan | |
17:46:58 | Satan | Shawn |
17:47:24 | midk | they alternate between calling it a 15 and a 20 even in the body, so good luck |
17:47:59 | Satan | Look just above the pictures, At the sellers note |
17:48:23 | midk | then it's usb1. |
17:48:50 | Satan | But theres a USB2 model of the Jukebox 15 |
17:49:29 | midk | i don't think so |
17:49:44 | Zagor | Satan: ask the seller |
17:49:54 | Satan | http://www.rockbox.org/docs/devicechart.html |
17:50:07 | Satan | This is what he said when I emailed him, |
17:50:14 | Satan | Hello, |
17:50:14 | Satan | I plugged it in my USB, and it says Hi-speed device plugged into a non-hi speed USB port " or something like that, so I assume it was USB2 like all of my other ones. I hope so.... |
17:50:14 | Satan | |
17:50:14 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
17:50:14 | Satan | Shawn |
17:50:42 | midk | does it say usb 2.0 at the bottom of the front panel of the device?.. |
17:50:58 | Satan | I dont have it yet |
17:51:20 | Satan | It should arrive very soon |
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18:00:15 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
18:01:02 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I'm just programming all 26 FM stations that are available in Berlin into the Ondio, and therefore are using the Ondio keyboard quite a bit. |
18:01:24 | amiconn | I wonder the following idea will improve input speed: |
18:01:33 | amiconn | *whether the following idea... |
18:02:36 | amiconn | Instead of (or additionally to) switching to the next/previous screen when the cursor leaves at the right or left border, there could be another method. |
18:03:26 | midk | rockbox can skip to the next station (hold RIGHT or LEFT), right? |
18:03:53 | amiconn | Currently the cursor simply wraps at the top or bottom. What if reaching the top edge also switches pages? Reaching the top edge is way faster than reaching the left or right edge |
18:04:23 | amiconn | midk: Holding left or right starts seeking to the next receivable station |
18:05:08 | midk | so why isn't there an auto-program to scan the whole band and fill the stations with any 'usable' ones? just because nobody's done it yet? |
18:05:29 | Satan | That would be useful |
18:05:57 | amiconn | midk: While this might actually be useful, it will certainly not be able to assign names |
18:06:36 | Satan | Why not just put Radio station 1, Radio Station 2, ect then |
18:06:36 | midk | just do a for loop for it :) -> preset01, preset02.. |
18:08:14 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
18:08:14 | * | Satan slaps midk around a bit with a large trout |
18:08:55 | midk | good one |
18:10:42 | Satan | If you hacked into NASA, how long would you expect in jail? |
18:11:51 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: I did the same with Hannover stations, but offline on the PC |
18:13:10 | [IDC]Dragon | (keyboard) only the top edge is left, bottom will take you to the edit line |
18:13:26 | [IDC]Dragon | I think this would be confusing |
18:13:50 | amiconn | Yes, that's why I'm asking. It's not too bad with today's fast button repeat.. |
18:13:55 | amiconn | Btw: Is there a reason why tuning is only possible in 100 kHz steps? All other radios I know allow 50 kHz steps |
18:17:25 | amiconn | (Not that this is necessary unless you connect it to a cable service) |
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18:30:48 | [IDC]Dragon | saving a bit in the setting ;-) |
18:31:21 | [IDC]Dragon | it depends on where you are. In the US, it's 200 kHz steps |
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19:10:21 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: The invert bit does indeed cause a beep-like signal in the right channel - if there is a sufficiently loud input signal |
19:11:27 | amiconn | It sounds very similar to your beep version though, and meanwhile I do know why. |
19:12:37 | amiconn | The MAS is rather slow with i2c communication, and even more important, the delay varies wildly. |
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19:14:04 | amiconn | I wouldn't call this a beep... |
19:16:48 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
19:17:19 | [IDC]Dragon | call it a burp |
19:17:39 | [IDC]Dragon | how about volume toggle? |
19:17:44 | amiconn | From the delays I saw, it might be possible to get a reasonably stable 100 Hz "hum" |
19:18:24 | amiconn | The main codec volume is lowpass filtered, so it won't beep I guess. But I'm about to try adc scale instead... |
19:18:48 | [IDC]Dragon | which would affect recording? |
19:19:20 | amiconn | Ah no, I mean "Mix DSP scale", which only affects the DAC |
19:19:53 | amiconn | (and Mix ADC scale will do the same btw.) |
19:21:12 | [IDC]Dragon | OT: you've been correct about multi-volume, it's a real bitch |
19:21:32 | amiconn | What problems did you run into? |
19:21:57 | [IDC]Dragon | no real problems, just a ton of changes and some caveats |
19:22:38 | [IDC]Dragon | one is the FAT sector cache |
19:23:04 | [IDC]Dragon | I've wired the driver and FAT layer now |
19:23:35 | [IDC]Dragon | the actual file opening on a specific volume needs to be done |
19:23:37 | amiconn | Don't you use one cache per fat instance? |
19:23:48 | [IDC]Dragon | no, a shared cache |
19:30:51 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm off |
19:30:57 | amiconn | Setting the DSP scale causes the burp in both channels |
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20:05:34 | Satan | either nobody likes satan, or this is dead |
20:05:55 | Satan | Don't hate me for my job :( |
20:09:27 | Dulcise | hello Satan |
20:09:54 | Satan | Hi, wanna sell your soul, I have good prices. |
20:10:10 | Dulcise | lol |
20:10:30 | Dulcise | sup? |
20:10:48 | Satan | Hey, Don't Lol me, I'm being serious |
20:11:06 | Satan | I have 2 jobs, Being Satan and Being God |
20:11:24 | Dulcise | whats the pay like for that? |
20:11:29 | Satan | In 2 Minites I'm need to play god for around 2.5 hours |
20:12:04 | Dulcise | nice, do you get to be all vengfull and smite people and stuff? |
20:12:17 | Satan | Pay, for you soul, Hmm You can shove a pinnaple up hitlers ass, or have imortal life |
20:12:24 | Satan | Yes, Its cool |
20:12:56 | Satan | Its really easy to come to hell |
20:13:42 | Dulcise | isn't hell located somewhere in texas though? |
20:13:56 | Satan | Nope, Anarticia |
20:14:02 | Satan | We moved 2 weeks ago |
20:14:21 | Satan | Its in the core of the eartg |
20:14:25 | Satan | *earth |
20:14:33 | Satan | right below anartica |
20:14:50 | Dulcise | isn't that tecnically right below everywhere? |
20:15:08 | Satan | Not right in the center. |
20:15:24 | Dulcise | aah |
20:15:30 | Dulcise | nice |
20:16:10 | Satan | When people die, 9 percent goto heven, 1 percent, Well they become unknown, and the other 90 comes here |
20:16:15 | Satan | Bit crowded |
20:16:29 | Satan | Wait Gotta Change jobs |
20:16:33 | | Nick Satan is now known as God (Josh_@222-153-56-11.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
20:16:33 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK God |
20:16:37 | Dulcise | lol |
20:16:51 | God | Yay, I'm playing God! |
20:16:52 | Dulcise | whats it like up in heaven this time of year then? |
20:16:59 | Dulcise | lol |
20:17:00 | God | Windy |
20:17:14 | God | My Girlfriend fell off a cloud and died |
20:17:25 | Dulcise | so is heaven in the sky or what then? |
20:17:34 | God | Hard to explain |
20:17:59 | God | Its *everywere* but *no-were* |
20:18:17 | Dulcise | lol |
20:18:29 | God | Angels die to |
20:18:34 | Dulcise | *where |
20:18:46 | God | Jesus is going through puberty |
20:18:50 | Dulcise | lol |
20:19:07 | Dulcise | yeah, whats it like being 3 people/things |
20:19:33 | God | He decided he didn't want to be sexist, so my only "Son" is now a woman |
20:19:57 | Dulcise | lol |
20:20:06 | God | And my dog died, But I poked it, and It woke from its death |
20:20:31 | Dulcise | didn't its soul go to hell or back to heaven anyway? |
20:21:00 | God | Hey, I don't know what happens when things die in heven |
20:21:24 | God | Everyone in hell is immortal, So thier tortures can last forever |
20:21:47 | Dulcise | man, sucks be that |
20:22:14 | Dulcise | so are you a guy or a woman then? |
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20:23:15 | God | Is it a crime for god to be transexual? |
20:23:33 | Dulcise | and when you screwed up so bad with man why didn't you just trash them rather than keep them to bug women/ |
20:23:35 | Dulcise | ? |
20:24:09 | Dulcise | God: wouldn't that be androginous, as transexuals gender doesn't match their physical sex? |
20:24:22 | God | I am a transexual |
20:24:26 | God | Male body |
20:24:39 | God | Female..........well yeah |
20:25:11 | Dulcise | fair enough |
20:25:45 | Dulcise | that must be pretty easy being omnipotent though, you could just turn yourself into a woman |
20:25:59 | God | Hey, I'm not like that |
20:26:08 | ze | heh |
20:26:08 | God | I can't do that |
20:26:30 | ze | seems silly to me to ascribe a gender to god... its not like god needs to reproduce sexually |
20:26:48 | God | Ze, How do you think Jesus was born. |
20:26:53 | Dulcise | lol |
20:27:01 | ze | supposedly to a virgin, so... |
20:27:06 | God | Is a stupid myth he was born from a virgin |
20:27:07 | Dulcise | Mary was a hooker |
20:27:09 | ze | hehe |
20:27:34 | ze | "christianity is a religion based on one woman REALLY sticking to her story" |
20:27:43 | Dulcise | lol |
20:27:54 | God | Prostotution is legal in New-Zealand |
20:28:02 | Dulcise | proof that women can convince men anything |
20:28:03 | ze | its legal in nevada too |
20:28:27 | ze | except los vegas i think |
20:28:28 | ze | or something |
20:28:31 | ze | er las |
20:28:48 | God | Ok, I've got a big country spinner decides what happens to day |
20:29:17 | God | Lets see, lands on, Iraq. |
20:29:23 | ze | heh |
20:29:26 | Dulcise | :P |
20:29:27 | God | Now the good or bad spinner |
20:29:46 | God | Good\ |
20:29:58 | God | Somthing good is going to happen in Iraq today |
20:30:24 | Dulcise | lol |
20:30:31 | God | Somthing good to US or somthing good for gravediggers? |
20:30:40 | ze | heh |
20:30:40 | God | hmm |
20:31:36 | God | Ok, Whos died in your familys who you would like to talk to, I have them here, you can talk to them |
20:31:56 | Dulcise | what if they went to hell... |
20:32:17 | God | Satan owes me, Poker Debt. |
20:33:14 | Dulcise | arn't you guys the same person and isn't Gambling a sin :P? |
20:33:52 | God | Hey, I have Multiple Personaltiy Syndrome, and What else is there to do? |
20:33:56 | ze | hey haven't you heard of quantum physics? despite einstein's protests, god does seem to play dice with the universe |
20:34:22 | God | Ze, thats Right, I bet the Universe once |
20:34:28 | Dulcise | lol |
20:34:40 | God | I won though, lucky, all you'd all be dead |
20:34:54 | ze | hehe |
20:35:07 | Dulcise | ze: doesn't that just suggest that everything is random though, rather than god nessacerly controlls it |
20:35:25 | Dulcise | God: so you get on well with the devil then? |
20:35:37 | God | Pretty well, hes not that bad |
20:36:02 | God | He's not so bad, just doing his job |
20:36:08 | Dulcise | lol |
20:36:25 | God | He did kill my Cat though |
20:37:00 | Dulcise | :/ |
20:37:04 | God | So I killed his Petting Zoo of kitten-puppy hybrids |
20:37:30 | God | Damn RSPCA |
20:38:05 | Dulcise | :P |
20:38:28 | God | By the way, JFK wasn't killed by bullets. |
20:38:53 | Dulcise | so, what do you actually do all day, other than play poker with the devil and kill each others pets? |
20:38:59 | Dulcise | lol |
20:39:18 | God | Play with things. |
20:39:36 | Dulcise | what like? |
20:39:56 | God | Adjust the time untill you destroy yourselfs |
20:40:24 | God | BRB, Gotta kill Satans cat |
20:40:32 | Dulcise | lol, okay |
20:41:01 | God | Back |
20:41:18 | Dulcise | wb |
20:41:26 | God | Guess you dont want to know how you destroy youselfs? |
20:41:47 | Dulcise | eh, why not, how do you destroy yourself then? |
20:42:25 | God | You Freeze the Atom |
20:42:38 | God | Stoping the universe idiots |
20:43:18 | God | Or I can change it |
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20:43:28 | Dulcise | :P |
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20:43:57 | God | So, Atomic, Planet Collision, Alien |
20:44:03 | God | Suggest any others |
20:44:45 | Dulcise | interplanatery space goat (ref: hitch hikers guide to the galaxy) |
20:45:15 | Dulcise | how do you do the creation shit then? |
20:46:18 | God | Well when a man loves a woman very much................. |
20:46:42 | God | If you can't fill in the blanks, not old enough to know |
20:46:52 | Dulcise | lol |
20:47:03 | Dulcise | i meant the creation of the earth and stuff :P |
20:47:47 | God | Well, One day me and Satan were seeing how much we could compact some bare space |
20:48:08 | God | Compacted it to much and *Boom!!!!!* it expanded |
20:48:18 | Dulcise | :P |
20:48:25 | God | Thier, the univerce |
20:48:47 | God | Heven is in the place that the universe doesn't occupy |
20:49:11 | God | Have you heard the phrase, The universe is always expanding? |
20:49:16 | Dulcise | yeah |
20:49:28 | Dulcise | its hawkings theory |
20:49:45 | God | Well it is, In the space that it doesn't occupy, Is heven |
20:49:48 | God | and other things |
20:50:01 | God | We don't know what they are |
20:50:23 | God | Have you heard the phrase hell of earth? |
20:50:31 | Dulcise | yeah |
20:50:46 | Dulcise | heh, maybe a heaven for all the stuff that dies in heaven |
20:51:03 | God | Because hell is on earth |
20:51:39 | Dulcise | yeah, under antarcticar |
20:51:58 | Dulcise | according to the devil (you) |
20:52:02 | ze | heh |
20:52:31 | God | Do you know whats fun, Screwing with Physics |
20:53:39 | God | God is trapped on a 500/256 connection |
20:53:57 | Dulcise | pff |
20:54:10 | Dulcise | i'm trapped on a 300/150 connection |
20:54:43 | God | Im supposed to be getting 2000/192 |
20:55:08 | Dulcise | woah |
20:55:24 | Dulcise | nice d/l speed, shite upload speed |
20:55:34 | God | My Recorder 15 should be coming soon |
20:56:53 | Dulcise | yeah, i'm getting a H120, so i'm probably going to donate a bit of ££ in a hope that it helps the porting get done quickly |
20:57:13 | Dulcise | uh, iRiver |
20:57:18 | God | I got it for $130 |
20:57:27 | Dulcise | nice :) |
20:57:31 | God | With lots of extra shit |
20:57:40 | Dulcise | :) |
20:57:50 | Dulcise | whats the normal going rate for it |
20:58:05 | God | Normal rate for what? |
20:58:08 | Dulcise | ? |
20:58:23 | God | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5735247305&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6 |
20:58:24 | Dulcise | the Recorder 15 you are getting |
20:58:54 | Dulcise | nice :) |
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21:00:22 | Dulcise | pff |
21:00:25 | Dulcise | that reminds me |
21:00:39 | God | What does PFF mean? |
21:00:48 | ze | heh |
21:00:58 | Dulcise | i need to look up the spec of the sound chip on my pc to see if i can hook some speekers up to it |
21:01:06 | ze | God: its the sound of an inflatable toy deflating |
21:01:19 | Dulcise | lol |
21:01:21 | ze | God: that you make when you put your sorta relaxed lips together and blow |
21:01:21 | Dulcise | yeah |
21:01:27 | God | Whats the name of your soundchip? |
21:01:31 | ze | sorta like making a p but then blowing |
21:01:50 | ze | so then it turns into an f |
21:01:57 | ze | heh |
21:02:31 | Dulcise | NVIDIA NForce i think |
21:02:55 | God | Nforce, whats ta hell of soundchip, dont worry its good |
21:03:34 | God | The sound is called NVidia SoundStorm by the way |
21:03:45 | Dulcise | :P |
21:04:59 | God | God Wears Glasses |
21:05:14 | God | But Satan has a hearing aid. |
21:06:33 | Dulcise | :P |
21:07:08 | ze | heh |
21:07:26 | God | SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
21:07:43 | Dulcise | http://bash.org/?429313 |
21:07:59 | ze | there's this $400-$500 soundcard with 10 inputs and 10 outputs does 24-bit/96khz |
21:08:08 | God | so? |
21:08:25 | ze | its consists of a pci card and a breakout box (which houses the actual ADC/DAC's) and a cable between them |
21:08:29 | Dulcise | i don't know shit about sound stuff :P |
21:08:38 | ze | someone on ebay has the card-only for $99 buy-it-now |
21:08:42 | God | Ze, Thats not such a good card |
21:08:54 | ze | and someone else on ebay has the breakout-box only up for bid starting at $49.99 |
21:08:57 | ze | heh |
21:09:37 | ze | but the pic of the breakout box is small and the connector for it to hook to the card looks like a db-9 in the pic, with some blue around it, while the box is supposed to have a db25 connector |
21:09:44 | God | Your talking about the Audigy 2 ZS Platnim Pro |
21:09:58 | ze | no, i'm talking about the m-audio delta 1010 |
21:09:59 | ze | heh |
21:10:05 | God | Oh, that |
21:10:47 | ze | i asked the seller of the breakout box for bigger pics and whats the deal with the db9 connector and such |
21:10:50 | ze | and they just said "I know nothing about these items.I know that it works but I don't know how." |
21:11:29 | God | The EMU 1212M Beats the Shit out of that one |
21:12:28 | God | And the EMU 1820M *Drools* |
21:12:52 | God | Trust me |
21:13:37 | God | Im god afterall |
21:13:54 | Dulcise | lol |
21:14:58 | God | Dulcise, Change your name to Winniethepoo right now! |
21:15:15 | Dulcise | why? |
21:15:30 | God | Oops WinnieThePooh not Winniethepoo |
21:15:39 | God | Cause I'm god, and I said so. |
21:16:05 | Dulcise | lol, i can't prove your existence so i deny it. |
21:16:24 | Dulcise | if you don't exist you didn't just say that |
21:16:39 | Dulcise | that and i don't want too:P |
21:17:43 | ze | damn that card taes 2 slots, all the connectors are on the card, its only got 2 analog inputs? |
21:17:51 | God | What one? |
21:17:56 | ze | the emu 1212m |
21:18:05 | God | The audio quality makes up for it |
21:18:21 | ze | makes up for a lack of analog inputs? |
21:18:27 | God | yep |
21:18:33 | ze | heh |
21:18:55 | ze | and what am i gonna do if i need 8 analog inputs? |
21:19:13 | ze | and what about all the interference in the pc |
21:19:33 | God | Trust me |
21:19:43 | ze | is it even supported by alsa? |
21:19:52 | God | alsa? |
21:20:00 | ze | advanced linux sound architecture |
21:20:21 | God | idk |
21:20:39 | God | All I know is it sounds godly in my sound system' |
21:21:03 | Dulcise | lol |
21:21:18 | ze | you do recording? |
21:21:24 | God | Yes |
21:21:40 | God | Its professional aimed |
21:21:42 | ze | got any mp3s? |
21:22:06 | God | Yeah....... |
21:23:41 | God | BRB, gotta goto shop |
21:23:47 | ze | heh |
21:24:12 | God | back in around 15 min\ |
21:24:26 | Dulcise | oki |
21:25:12 | Dulcise | foo. anyone know where i can find out stuff about hooking up speakers to a computer? |
21:25:29 | Dulcise | not like pc speakers, regular ones |
21:25:51 | God | need a converter |
21:26:02 | God | adaptor, not converter |
21:26:17 | Dulcise | yeah |
21:26:24 | Dulcise | thingy to small jack |
21:27:21 | Dulcise | i know that, but if the resistance is different between the speakers and the amp it can b0rk them or so i hear |
21:27:25 | Dulcise | or something like thast |
21:27:29 | Dulcise | *that |
21:28:10 | ze | hmm |
21:28:29 | ze | i think the only problem you might have is that the output isn't enough to drive the speakers without an amp |
21:29:06 | Dulcise | yah |
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21:29:43 | Dulcise | i'm fairly sure it will be |
21:30:06 | Dulcise | i was just wondering if they was somewhere i could find stuff out about it |
21:30:20 | Dulcise | maybe a sound system website or something |
21:30:32 | ze | hmm there was a good page i saw on audio input and output impedances |
21:31:16 | Dulcise | mm? |
21:36:06 | Dulcise | ah, found some stuff out about it |
21:36:34 | Dulcise | i'll have to pop into town to sort out a converter or something if this works out... |
21:36:38 | Dulcise | . |
21:37:50 | ze | i used to use a 1/8" stereo plug that split into 2 RCA-style plugs which i then hooked into a normal stereo input |
21:37:58 | ze | the stereo acted as an amp and output to the normal speakers |
21:39:13 | Dulcise | i figure i won't have to do that if the wattage and impedance is similar.. |
21:39:52 | Dulcise | but i need to look more stuff up first |
21:39:59 | Dulcise | i don't want to break something |
21:40:02 | Dulcise | :P |
21:40:02 | ze | well from what i've seen on impedance |
21:40:33 | ze | you basically want a low impedance signal going into a high impedance input for maximum voltage transfer |
21:40:53 | ze | but thats talking about like mic-level signals going into transistor-based amps |
21:41:25 | Dulcise | :\ |
21:41:34 | ze | as it is, i just plug headphones directly into the output of my soundcard |
21:41:41 | ze | i don't even have speakers on my computer |
21:41:42 | Dulcise | :) |
21:41:57 | God | god is back |
21:41:58 | ze | and these headphones are only 60 ohm |
21:42:10 | Dulcise | ohm |
21:42:12 | Dulcise | oops |
21:42:25 | ze | but they can get louder than i want them to be, if i turn the volume up |
21:42:26 | ze | heh |
21:42:39 | Dulcise | nice :) |
21:43:01 | God | Gord Will BRB after going to urinate |
21:43:33 | ze | uh oh a Gordly bladder |
21:44:17 | Dulcise | uh, its raining again... |
21:44:21 | God | Heh, Gord |
21:44:25 | God | LOL |
21:44:37 | God | No I really did Laugh out loud |
21:45:16 | Dulcise | :p |
21:46:45 | God | All water has had a average of 40 people urinate in it |
21:46:54 | Dulcise | God: do you know where i can find stuff out like impedance and wattage and shit about the nVIDIA NForce MCP2? |
21:47:25 | Dulcise | urine has mild antibiotical properties |
21:47:30 | God | http://www.nvidia.com/object/feature_soundstorm.html |
21:50:33 | Dulcise | ty |
21:50:35 | God | Gods shitty chair just broke, and he hurt his arse and his head on it |
21:51:07 | Dulcise | how did you hurt your head on it? |
21:51:46 | God | Was leaning, Fell, You doo the math |
21:51:55 | Dulcise | owch |
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22:01:30 | God | I, god order you, pfavr, to kill everyone |
22:06:38 | God | I, god order you, Dulcise, to kill everyone |
22:08:16 | God | I order everyone to kill everyone |
22:08:21 | | Nick God is now known as Satan (Josh_@222-153-56-11.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
22:08:21 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Satan |
22:09:48 | Dulcise | i have some spare old speakers, how much of a bad idea would it just to rig the wire to these speakers? |
22:10:09 | Dulcise | like old pc speakers |
22:15:54 | Satan | maybe |
22:16:54 | Dulcise | hmm |
22:16:59 | Dulcise | i might try it... |
22:17:45 | Satan | maybe |
22:21:52 | Dulcise | do speakers have any electronic bits inside them or are they just the speakers? |
22:22:35 | Satan | maybe...... |
22:22:50 | ze | a coil... maybe some resistors? |
22:23:01 | ze | or not i dunno |
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22:23:17 | Satan | Yes they do |
22:23:26 | Satan | I make speakers |
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22:24:20 | Dulcise | sorry, i'll stop pestering you guys and google some stuff:P |
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22:27:01 | Quelsaruk | hi |
22:27:25 | Dulcise | hey Quelsaruk |
22:27:36 | Quelsaruk | hi Dulcise |
22:27:45 | Dulcise | sup? |
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22:29:33 | | Nick |Quelsar| is now known as Quelsaruk (~kvirc@80.103.138.199) |
22:29:34 | Quelsaruk | re |
22:29:37 | Quelsaruk | :/ |
22:30:02 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
22:30:12 | Bagder | hi ho |
22:30:52 | Quelsaruk | i hope that operator mode is not because of me :D |
22:31:17 | Mode | "#rockbox +b *!*@*.jetstream.xtra.co.nz " by Zagor (foobar@h254n2fls31o265.telia.com) |
22:31:17 | Kick | (#rockbox Satan :Zagor) by Zagor!foobar@h254n2fls31o265.telia.com |
22:31:32 | Mode | "#rockbox +o logbot " by Zagor (foobar@h254n2fls31o265.telia.com) |
22:31:47 | Mode | "#rockbox -o Zagor " by Zagor (foobar@h254n2fls31o265.telia.com) |
22:32:40 | Quelsaruk | zagor, isn't more convenient a *!*@222-153-56-11.jetstream.xtra.co.nz ban? maybe you are baning a lot of people with that ban (just an opinion) |
22:33:37 | Zagor | he is a stubborn guy. this avoids him getting a new dynamic ip from his isp. |
22:33:54 | Quelsaruk | thats correct :) |
22:34:29 | gromit` | hopefully he isn't god... god certainly can have whatever ip he wants |
22:34:49 | Zagor | logbot is the all-seeing god |
22:34:54 | gromit` | :) |
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22:38:50 | webguest72 | Uh, what does, *** webguest72 Quelsaruk Zagor Stryke` mecraw_ Dulcise methangas midk Ka Bagder MooMaunder |XO| ehdeixtezet amiconn Hadaka webmind thegeek izzy hile gromit` JJ-Demon silencer_ dwihno ze ricII mbr @logbot mean? |
22:39:10 | Quelsaruk | ¿? |
22:39:13 | Quelsaruk | user list |
22:39:15 | methangas | erh |
22:39:21 | Quelsaruk | that is a user list |
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22:40:00 | Josh_file | How long do bans last? |
22:40:14 | Quelsaruk | for ever |
22:40:26 | Quelsaruk | or until Zagor unbans a person |
22:41:02 | Josh_file | Oh, Cause I was a real asshole before, Now I'm using the Web Client |
22:41:23 | Bagder | we know |
22:41:35 | Quelsaruk | web clients can be also banned |
22:41:36 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 51 minutes at the last flood |
22:41:36 | * | thegeek sets mode +b Josh_file |
22:42:03 | Josh_file | Oh.... :( |
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22:42:11 | thegeek | muahha |
22:42:13 | thegeek | ;) |
22:42:20 | Josh_file | What does B mean? |
22:42:27 | Quelsaruk | ban |
22:43:19 | Josh_file | :( |
22:43:40 | Josh_file | Don't suppose a promise not to do it again will get me unbanned |
22:43:49 | Zagor | not within the week, no |
22:47:27 | Josh_file | Who runs the Website? |
22:47:37 | Bagder | take a guess |
22:48:24 | Josh_file | Badger, Zagor and LinisN? |
22:50:20 | Bagder | almost |
22:50:32 | Bagder | Bagder, Zagor and LinusN is the correct answer ;-O |
22:50:41 | Josh_file | Yay! |
22:53:02 | ze | hmm |
22:53:05 | ze | Josh_file: what'd you do to get banned? |
22:53:34 | ze | heh |
22:53:55 | Zagor | disobey op request to stop spewing nonsense chat in this developer channel |
22:56:05 | Dulcise | aah |
22:58:34 | Josh_file | Is USPS very good on international shipments? |
22:59:43 | Josh_file | As in, What time do they usally get it there? |
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23:02:20 | Quelsaruk | Bagder: any improvement or advance in changing GUI? i remember you had an idea to change some key functions and QuickScreens last year |
23:03:33 | Bagder | no major such work in progress, no |
23:06:23 | Quelsaruk | ok |
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23:07:28 | *** | SPY: Authentication failed for Zagor |
23:08:10 | Quelsaruk | hey Bagder, i just saw iRiver can act as a USB host... is that true? |
23:08:18 | Zagor | yes |
23:08:20 | Bagder | yes, the h3xx ones I believe |
23:08:38 | Quelsaruk | that's amazing then |
23:08:56 | Quelsaruk | :) |
23:09:20 | Zagor | it will take a LOT of work adding that to rockbox though |
23:09:27 | Quelsaruk | i suppose |
23:10:08 | *** | SPY: Authentication failed for Zagor |
23:10:15 | *** | SPY: Authentication failed for Zagor |
23:10:22 | *** | SPY: Authentication failed for Zagor |
23:10:25 | Josh_file | When you plan on abandoning Archos players completly |
23:10:49 | Zagor | we don't |
23:11:16 | Josh_file | Yay! |
23:11:19 | Zagor | we'll just add support for new players, not remove for old |
23:11:39 | Dulcise | :) |
23:12:29 | Josh_file | So, With each update, the same things that have been added to the Iriver, will be added to the Archos aswell? |
23:12:51 | Bagder | no |
23:12:55 | Bagder | things are added to Rockbox |
23:12:55 | Zagor | only those that are possible within the hardware limitations |
23:13:04 | Bagder | rockbox works on many players |
23:13:19 | Bagder | they're not added several times |
23:13:28 | Josh_file | Yay |
23:14:05 | Josh_file | Why did you choose to move to the iriver instead of a diffrent player? |
23:16:08 | Bagder | we looked a long time for a suitable new target |
23:16:18 | Bagder | iRiver met our requirements |
23:17:12 | Josh_file | What would you of choose if the iRiver didn't exist |
23:17:23 | Bagder | nothing |
23:17:26 | Dulcise | in what way, was it due to the poor review the firmware gets? |
23:17:50 | Zagor | Dulcise: no. mostly due to good and well-documented hardware |
23:17:50 | Bagder | it has many users, it is usb-storage, it uses a well-known CPU, etc etc |
23:18:19 | Bagder | and it has a good size and a cool remote |
23:18:33 | Josh_file | All good qualitys |
23:19:23 | Dulcise | aah, i'm getting a H120 soon and the bad thing about it apparently was the firmware. hence my intrest in the rockbox project |
23:19:24 | Josh_file | My next MP3 player will be a iriver then |
23:21:52 | Dulcise | you guys got a personal favourite mp3 player? |
23:22:43 | Bagder | I'd say Rockbox on Archos v1 |
23:22:48 | Josh_file | Favourite would be the Iriver 340 |
23:22:54 | Zagor | jbr v1 is still the best one that runs rockbox |
23:22:58 | Josh_file | But due to costs................... |
23:23:12 | Josh_file | I have a JBR V1 yay! |
23:24:10 | Dulcise | cool :) |
23:24:42 | Josh_file | Well don't '"Have" it, but I have it soon |
23:25:02 | Josh_file | Stupid x-mas shipping with USPS |
23:27:02 | Dulcise | :P |
23:27:41 | Josh_file | Should arrive, Today, Tomorrow, Or 2 days after X-mas =/ |
23:27:54 | Josh_file | Its a X-Mas present =/ |
23:32:01 | Quelsaruk | Bagder: recorder V1 or player 5000? |
23:32:11 | Quelsaruk | ;) |
23:32:31 | Bagder | that's left for the reader to guess! ;-) |
23:33:49 | Josh_file | I've got a spare mouse, What should I do with it? |
23:34:26 | Dulcise | keep it, mice break over time, its nice to have a backup while your normal one is unusable |
23:35:18 | Josh_file | My cats chewing its tail while sleeping |
23:53:07 | JJ-Demon | develop for the archos gmini 400 instead :D its way better then H3xx |
23:53:08 | | Quit ehdeixtezet (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
23:54:02 | Bagder | you do that and we'll help you |
23:56:36 | gromit` | btw badger |
23:56:43 | gromit` | about the gmini 1xx and 2xx |
23:56:45 | Dulcise | actually, i wish i could code so i could help with the project, but i'm learning so maybe eventually |
23:57:02 | gromit` | we were thinking about a rockbox port ... |
23:57:12 | Zagor | gromit`: sounds excellent |
23:57:31 | gromit` | okay :) |
23:58:22 | Zagor | the more the merrier :) |
23:58:37 | gromit` | we wanted to talk you about it :) |