| 00:00:02 | ashridah | perhaps not then |
| 00:00:13 | Bagder | perhaps LinusN can make one |
| 00:00:26 | Bagder | he doesn't do much anyway |
| 00:00:28 | * | Bagder ducks |
| 00:00:46 | LinusN | ooops, i just broke your recorder, Bagder |
| 00:00:51 | LinusN | :-) |
| 00:01:01 | Bagder | LinusN is the best |
| 00:01:10 | Bagder | now, did it heal? ;-) |
| 00:01:18 | crash_ | funny guys arent they ;) |
| 00:01:53 | LinusN | Bagder: i just repaired it again |
| 00:02:01 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 00:03:26 | amiconn | Welcome back in iriver.com flash hell :-/ |
| 00:03:43 | Bagder | uuuh |
| 00:04:16 | crash_ | havent they put down infos about h1/h3xx products ? |
| 00:06:23 | amiconn | They are still there, at least on the global page |
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| 00:07:52 | crash_ | didnt see them |
| 00:10:09 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm researching about the recording panic |
| 00:10:31 | [IDC]Dragon | plastering the code with more panics showed it rund out of directory descriptors |
| 00:11:02 | [IDC]Dragon | could that be? |
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| 00:11:24 | [IDC]Dragon | or do we perhaps have a leak? |
| 00:11:37 | [IDC]Dragon | (there's 8 descriptors) |
| 00:12:27 | Bagder | sounds like a leak |
| 00:12:56 | amiconn | crash_: http://www.iriver.com/html/product/prpa_product.asp?pidx=43 . Clicking through the avaliable images, the last one comes closest to what I am looking for. |
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| 00:13:46 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn, are you prepping up the sim? |
| 00:14:14 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: recording to /recordings or current dir? |
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| 00:15:12 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I'll start working on the patch that uses different bitmaps for the targets. I want to do different lcd sizes also. |
| 00:15:27 | crash_ | amiconn: but you dont want to copy it? |
| 00:15:35 | crash_ | or too bad qualy ? |
| 00:15:43 | amiconn | If all that works, I'll try adding Windows buttons for the buttons (additionally to the numpad keys) |
| 00:15:44 | Bagder | I think you should drop the images |
| 00:16:39 | amiconn | Bagder: Why? |
| 00:16:50 | Bagder | they're just pointless |
| 00:17:13 | Bagder | but if you want them, go ahead |
| 00:17:14 | Stryke` | amiconn: http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/iriver_ihp120_prev_1_big.jpg |
| 00:17:17 | amiconn | crash_: Still a bit low-res (even the "big" image), plus a bit distorted (no exact front view) |
| 00:17:41 | [IDC]Dragon | I think we really have a dir descriptor leak |
| 00:17:56 | [IDC]Dragon | just inceased it to 10, still happens |
| 00:18:47 | amiconn | Stryke`: _Much_ better, thanks! (Still a bit distorted, but nice resolution) |
| 00:19:07 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Recording from where? FM? And why this does happen only on Ondio? |
| 00:19:29 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: could it be the ondio filename generation? |
| 00:19:41 | [IDC]Dragon | FM from Ondio, yes. |
| 00:19:50 | LinusN | the code that finds the next file number |
| 00:19:53 | crash_ | amiconn: what you exactly wanna do? cause you were speaking of buttons and such |
| 00:20:20 | amiconn | I want to improve/ extend the Win32 simulator |
| 00:20:29 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: perhaps |
| 00:21:02 | crash_ | ah |
| 00:21:13 | amiconn | crash_: (1) Using the correct image per platform. (2) Using the correct lcd size. (3) Add real clickable buttons. |
| 00:21:37 | [IDC]Dragon | now where did I put that code? |
| 00:21:45 | crash_ | hmm but the buttons on the side will be a problem for the h1xx ? |
| 00:22:09 | amiconn | Bagder: The image on its own is pointless. It is not when there are clickable buttons. Much more intuitive than the numpad keys, especially on a laptop... |
| 00:22:43 | Bagder | true |
| 00:23:05 | amiconn | crash_: In this case I have to (virtually) bend the side face forward.... |
| 00:23:23 | amiconn | This is also true for Ondio btw, where the On/Off button is located at the top |
| 00:23:30 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: rec_create_filename() doesn't call closedir() |
| 00:23:47 | Bagder | _that_ sounds like a leak |
| 00:24:24 | amiconn | Stryke`: Maybe you do have a link to a side view (or side views) too? (Only sides that have buttons are needed) |
| 00:25:36 | Stryke` | one sec |
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| 00:26:44 | Stryke` | http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/iriver_ihp100_play_big.jpg |
| 00:26:48 | Stryke` | http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/iriver_ihp100_rec_big.jpg |
| 00:27:38 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: That also explains why it only happens on Ondio. The dir checking is only needed/used when there is no rtc... |
| 00:28:29 | amiconn | Stryke`: Thanks, very nice! |
| 00:28:37 | amiconn | Buttons on both sides, tsss... |
| 00:29:39 | amiconn | Are those beasts available in different colours? |
| 00:30:07 | Stryke` | thats the 100 which is silver, IIRC. the 120 is black (US) and champagne elsewhere |
| 00:30:24 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 00:30:35 | Bagder | my 140 is black |
| 00:30:43 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: thanks, that's it |
| 00:30:44 | Stryke` | as is my 120 |
| 00:31:07 | crash_ | amiconn: nice idea :) |
| 00:33:05 | amiconn | Stryke`: Hmm. Now I'm facing the problem to combine different fron & side views? It seems this site is not searchable :( I get directory listing denied even for the root - obviously no index.html |
| 00:33:23 | crash_ | amiconn: maybe this helps you with the pics of Stryke` |
| 00:33:24 | crash_ | http://www.tnt-audio.com/jpeg/iriver.jpg |
| 00:34:37 | Stryke` | http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?object_id=573059&channel_id=192&page_title=iRiver+iHP-100+Preview&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Dgear%26pagetype%3Dmedialist&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fgear.ign.com%2Fobjects%2F573%2F573059.html |
| 00:34:42 | Stryke` | http://mediaviewer.ign.com/mediaviewer.jsp?fromint=1&page_title=iRiver+iHP-120+Preview&channel_id=192&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fgear.ign.com%2Fobjects%2F611%2F611888.html&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Dgear%26pagetype%3Dmedialist&object_id=611888 |
| 00:34:56 | Stryke` | those two link to all pics, i believe |
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| 00:51:52 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: (voice ui) Linus suggested temporarily switching to mono while the voice is babbling, to avoid the bad side effect of karaoke mode. What do you think? |
| 00:52:12 | amiconn | It should be easy to implement this. |
| 00:55:08 | [IDC]Dragon | possible, yes |
| 00:56:30 | [IDC]Dragon | the queue runs empty in interrupt context, this is no good place to re-enable |
| 00:56:55 | [IDC]Dragon | dir and file clips are then forced to mono, too |
| 00:57:07 | [IDC]Dragon | even if they could be stereo |
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| 00:57:50 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: i wish the uartboot flash procedure had some more error handling |
| 00:57:51 | amiconn | Then it could be set to simple stereo instead of mono. Would have the same effect with (mono) voice |
| 00:57:54 | [IDC]Dragon | we can switch back to stereo when the buffer is claimed back |
| 00:58:28 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN, what errors are you facing? |
| 00:58:43 | LinusN | the flashing fails somehow |
| 00:58:58 | [IDC]Dragon | I never had that |
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| 00:59:04 | LinusN | so one or more pins are probably not soldered correctly |
| 00:59:08 | [IDC]Dragon | in the middle of the action? |
| 00:59:21 | LinusN | uart_boot.exe says nothing |
| 00:59:24 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Imho this is not a good idea. Maybe a plugin (which does not need the mp3 buffer) plays a clip afterwards. This would then play with the modified setting still in effect |
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| 01:00:09 | LinusN | it just says "Flashing file blabla" and then exits after a long while |
| 01:00:25 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm |
| 01:00:50 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I already looked at it a bit, there seems to be only one place where the voice is started: within queue_clip(). |
| 01:00:51 | [IDC]Dragon | con you tie a scope to rx/tx to look for traffic? |
| 01:00:52 | LinusN | dumping the flash gives different contents after each flash attempt though |
| 01:01:13 | LinusN | the serial connection works |
| 01:01:16 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: correct |
| 01:01:22 | LinusN | it downloads minimon correctly |
| 01:02:04 | [IDC]Dragon | with the scopy, I don't mean to watch bits, just the activity |
| 01:02:10 | [IDC]Dragon | scope |
| 01:02:27 | [IDC]Dragon | to see if it starts flashing |
| 01:02:47 | LinusN | it does something, since the flash contents change |
| 01:03:00 | [IDC]Dragon | this sounds no good |
| 01:03:08 | LinusN | at least if i can trust the dump |
| 01:03:43 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: But there is more than one place that stops playback. Plus, at least one is called in interrupt, which forbids simply calling mpeg_sound_set() to reset the config. |
| 01:04:13 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN, try flashing a file with 0 bytes |
| 01:04:23 | LinusN | good idea |
| 01:04:26 | [IDC]Dragon | that should leave th flash erased |
| 01:05:35 | [IDC]Dragon | the dump should be all FF then, reproduceable |
| 01:06:04 | [IDC]Dragon | Andi had a shorted address line, maybe you have a floating pin? |
| 01:06:08 | LinusN | hehe, no erase |
| 01:06:24 | [IDC]Dragon | ? |
| 01:06:38 | LinusN | it wasn't erased |
| 01:06:43 | LinusN | contents unchanged |
| 01:06:54 | LinusN | after flashing the 0-byte file |
| 01:07:12 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe it doesn't start with 0 byte |
| 01:07:17 | [IDC]Dragon | try 1 byte |
| 01:07:37 | [IDC]Dragon | (slowly working our way up to 256K) |
| 01:10:25 | amiconn | It should erase with a zero byte file... |
| 01:11:27 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, true, just checked the code |
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| 01:12:08 | amiconn | May it be the command is different for different chip brands? |
| 01:12:37 | [IDC]Dragon | only SST fits, afaik |
| 01:14:54 | [IDC]Dragon | we never found a different brand ID |
| 01:24:29 | LinusN | success! |
| 01:24:41 | LinusN | two pins were shorted |
| 01:24:50 | [IDC]Dragon | what did you do? |
| 01:24:52 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
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| 01:41:16 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN, just out of curiosity: what was your method of holding the LCD pins down? |
| 01:41:27 | LinusN | a switch |
| 01:41:57 | [IDC]Dragon | at the pullup array, or where? |
| 01:42:02 | LinusN | yes |
| 01:42:10 | LinusN | from your description |
| 01:45:10 | [IDC]Dragon | with the cut PCB trace? |
| 01:45:30 | LinusN | yup |
| 01:47:53 | LinusN | time to sleep |
| 01:48:05 | [IDC]Dragon | sleep well |
| 01:49:11 | LinusN | cu tomorrow, folks |
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| 09:03:09 | [IDC]Dragon | hi there |
| 09:03:34 | LinusN | hi |
| 09:07:50 | crash_ | hi LinusN hi [IDC]Dragon |
| 09:09:00 | LinusN | hi |
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| 09:14:43 | LinusN | morning Zagor |
| 09:15:41 | Zagor | morning |
| 09:47:27 | * | Bagder appears with a cup of steaming coffee |
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| 10:11:12 | pike | this just cracks me up every friggin time: http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050106/i/r106445767.jpg |
| 10:11:26 | pike | seems gates is "loosening up" his image a bit |
| 10:12:51 | Zagor | what's funny about it? |
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| 10:13:11 | pike | it reminds me of a fanboy |
| 10:13:56 | Zagor | well, he just managed to make iriver depend on windows. i'd be happy too if i was him. |
| 10:14:51 | pike | O.o |
| 10:14:55 | LinusN | Bagder: read the logs? |
| 10:15:04 | Bagder | no |
| 10:15:31 | ashridah | pike: yeah. sod's made the n10 and h10 require WMP apparently |
| 10:15:36 | LinusN | your jukebox is now flashable |
| 10:15:46 | Bagder | ah |
| 10:15:48 | Bagder | great! |
| 10:15:53 | Bagder | you're the king! |
| 10:16:04 | ashridah | i'd be seriously ticked if i was in the market to buy one of those. i'd probably turn to the mp3 player a friend of mine found that has mp3, ogg and flac support if i was |
| 10:16:05 | LinusN | but the backlight is still green... |
| 10:16:06 | * | Bagder dances around the channel |
| 10:17:06 | Bagder | LinusN: you up to do the backlight mod too, or is it too much work? |
| 10:17:18 | Bagder | I can live with green |
| 10:18:03 | LinusN | i will do the backlight mod too, i want to document it in the wiki |
| 10:18:17 | Bagder | ok, cool |
| 10:19:34 | LinusN | my compliments to [IDC]Dragon for the uart boot hack/docs |
| 10:20:50 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks, but especially the docs leave a lot to be desired... |
| 10:21:18 | pike | you ever done any hw mods for archos players? |
| 10:21:22 | LinusN | sure, but i managed to do it by reading the docs |
| 10:21:46 | Bagder | pike: this bunch has made quite a lot of mods |
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| 10:22:29 | pike | wonder if a USBOTG hw mod for iriver is possible, or if it's too advanced |
| 10:22:43 | pike | sw, you guys manage so that wouldnt be a problem ;) |
| 10:23:00 | Bagder | that would mean replacing the USB chip |
| 10:23:41 | Bagder | you'd need to find a replacement that would fit |
| 10:23:47 | Bagder | I doubt that is easy |
| 10:24:08 | Bagder | then again, I'm not a hw person |
| 10:26:36 | LinusN | i'd say that it isn't possible |
| 10:28:31 | pike | you ever saw a h320 in teh "nude" ? |
| 10:28:44 | pike | it has it (or so I read) |
| 10:28:58 | LinusN | see the rockbox forum |
| 10:29:00 | Bagder | http://medulla.co.uk/images/H340/ |
| 10:29:39 | pike | so pcb layout isnt similar at all ? |
| 10:29:48 | LinusN | nope |
| 10:30:14 | LinusN | afaik, the H3xx has two usb chips |
| 10:31:31 | ashridah | that's interesting. does the H1xx have that blue padding? |
| 10:34:55 | LinusN | the h100 padding is black |
| 10:36:08 | ashridah | aha |
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| 10:46:30 | [IDC]Dragon | bbl |
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| 11:28:18 | [IDC]Dragon | I found anice example on how C is cool: |
| 11:28:28 | [IDC]Dragon | http://research.microsoft.com/~tball/papers/XmasGift/ |
| 11:32:02 | LinusN | very KISS indeed :-) |
| 11:34:11 | [IDC]Dragon | and incredible compression |
| 11:37:13 | ashridah | rofl. |
| 11:37:32 | LinusN | speaking about compression and obfuscated c contest: http://www.ioccc.org/1993/lmfjyh.hint |
| 11:37:44 | LinusN | absolutely hilarious |
| 11:40:30 | ashridah | uh. that isn't going to bypass quotas. |
| 11:40:43 | ashridah | since any half-decent quota system is going to include the size of the directory, surely |
| 11:42:44 | ashridah | hrm. any block based filesystem is going to allocate a block for each file probably, too. |
| 11:44:05 | LinusN | that's the point of the joke |
| 11:45:03 | [IDC]Dragon | with NTFS, small files are actually stored in the directory, in order not to allocate a full block |
| 11:45:15 | ashridah | aah. |
| 11:45:24 | ashridah | interesting |
| 11:45:25 | [IDC]Dragon | other "modern" file systems may do similar |
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| 12:13:43 | amiconn | Yes there are some. Even the Novell Netware 4.x file system (which dates back to 1995) does a similar trick. |
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| 12:15:11 | amiconn | It uses block sub-allocation, i.e. can divide individual clusters into sectors to store the tails of several files. |
| 12:15:28 | NHeal | zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 12:15:28 | NJoin | pike [0] (pike@c83-249-120-49.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 12:15:40 | pike | cool split (tm) |
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| 13:02:19 | [IDC]Dragon | file systems are a science, I reckon |
| 13:04:31 | Zagor | indeed |
| 13:06:31 | Lynx_ | do you guys know of any software mp3 player/plugin that has a similar effect of the MDB? |
| 13:09:20 | LinusN | nope |
| 13:10:24 | Lynx_ | LinusN: From your short description it sounds like it's nothing secret that one couldn't do for a plugin... |
| 13:10:46 | pike | MDB ? |
| 13:11:13 | LinusN | it isn't trivial, and is probably patented to death |
| 13:11:14 | Lynx_ | micronas dynamic bass |
| 13:11:27 | Lynx_ | LinusN: hmm, that could be... |
| 13:12:38 | pike | dfx for winamp maybe ? |
| 13:14:00 | Lynx_ | pike: hmm, forgot about that, i'll check it out.. |
| 13:15:00 | LinusN | "booming hyperbass" |
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| 13:22:16 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: was the rombox only using 2 MB always? |
| 13:22:37 | amiconn | yup. |
| 13:22:42 | [IDC]Dragon | oh |
| 13:23:13 | Lynx_ | hmm, the dfx hyperbass does not really have a great effect... |
| 13:23:18 | amiconn | And this would have even caused with the plugins, because there would have been loaded at a different address than they were linked to |
| 13:23:35 | [IDC]Dragon | I didn't notice, don't use rombox any more since Linus placed the interrupt vectors into rom |
| 13:24:03 | [IDC]Dragon | (which breaks my Alpine CD changer emulator plugin) |
| 13:24:04 | LinusN | i did? |
| 13:24:16 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought so, yes... |
| 13:25:16 | [IDC]Dragon | it's a reasonable thing, but broke my "hack" to bend vectors |
| 13:25:20 | LinusN | weren't they always in rom? |
| 13:25:51 | [IDC]Dragon | no, I deliberately kept them in ram, in my first version |
| 13:25:57 | pike | Lynx_ http://www.winamp.com/plugins/browse.php?ctype=P&category=5 |
| 13:28:26 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Why do you need to bend vectors? |
| 13:28:47 | [IDC]Dragon | because we have no clean interface to hijack the serial |
| 13:28:54 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: as far as i can see, the vectors are in the DRAM segment in rom.lds |
| 13:29:16 | [IDC]Dragon | are they? then perhaps just the location changed |
| 13:29:35 | LinusN | the very first version of rom.lds also had it like that |
| 13:29:47 | LinusN | just move the vbr and you're set |
| 13:30:07 | [IDC]Dragon | I observed that it crashes, didn't properly research |
| 13:30:31 | LinusN | there might be a bug somewhere, but the intention is to have them in ram |
| 13:31:04 | [IDC]Dragon | which is a tiny waste |
| 13:31:31 | LinusN | yeah, probably 0.001 seconds of mp3 audio |
| 13:31:38 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll look into refurbishing my plugin |
| 13:32:02 | [IDC]Dragon | use the vbr for calculation instead of hard coded addresses |
| 13:32:31 | [IDC]Dragon | if in rom, I could even copy the table and bend the vbr |
| 13:33:14 | [IDC]Dragon | (reeaally dirty) |
| 13:33:51 | amiconn | Or simply add an interface to hook into the serial. You did this for the timer... |
| 13:34:32 | [IDC]Dragon | but here the useis even more limited |
| 13:34:44 | [IDC]Dragon | ...use is... |
| 13:35:18 | [IDC]Dragon | I need a few vectors, not just one, iirc |
| 13:36:32 | [IDC]Dragon | but it's good that we talked about it |
| 13:38:52 | [IDC]Dragon | how about putting that plugin into cvs? |
| 13:40:03 | LinusN | sure, why not? |
| 13:40:27 | [IDC]Dragon | because there are <5 people using it |
| 13:41:06 | [IDC]Dragon | which may be because almost nobody knows about it |
| 13:41:12 | LinusN | i bet it is more popular than "bounce" anyway |
| 13:41:30 | Zagor | :) |
| 13:41:53 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, we have some useful ones ;-) |
| 13:44:02 | [IDC]Dragon | ahem, I declare my plugin as code police free zone |
| 13:44:08 | [IDC]Dragon | declared |
| 13:44:12 | dwihno | Any of you guys know anyone with a Shuttle-based computer? |
| 13:44:25 | [IDC]Dragon | would have to change that |
| 13:45:49 | [IDC]Dragon | mainly C99-style comments |
| 13:46:20 | [IDC]Dragon | and a typedef |
| 13:47:46 | amiconn | Probably also CamelCase function names? |
| 13:47:57 | [IDC]Dragon | sure |
| 13:48:21 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, actually no |
| 13:48:44 | [IDC]Dragon | I obviously compromized on that |
| 13:49:26 | [IDC]Dragon | but personally, I consider uppercase letters a cultural achievement |
| 13:50:44 | [IDC]Dragon | <pun> unix users haven't invented/found the shift key yet </pun> |
| 13:51:38 | Zagor | :) |
| 13:51:51 | ashridah | bah. XFree86 has been putting a command with the shift key into unixalikes for years. |
| 13:52:18 | ashridah | (admittedly, it took me until X to find one :) |
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| 14:18:34 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: you're using a VNC client/server, sometimes? |
| 14:19:15 | [IDC]Dragon | I tried it at home, but it feels sluggish, even over WLAN |
| 14:19:34 | [IDC]Dragon | (RealVNC, that is) |
| 14:19:58 | [IDC]Dragon | is there any better? |
| 14:21:45 | Bagder | a note about c99: consider efforts like Dave Jones' - we may want to work with non C99 compilers |
| 14:22:01 | Bagder | thus, C89 comments is generally better |
| 14:22:12 | [IDC]Dragon | Dave Jones? |
| 14:22:19 | Bagder | 8051-Dave |
| 14:22:28 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
| 14:23:24 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: No VNC, but Microsoft RDP (WinXP Remote Desktop). Way faster than VNC. |
| 14:23:57 | [IDC]Dragon | that locks the console completly, doesn't it? |
| 14:25:09 | [IDC]Dragon | is the clientincluded in WinXP home? |
| 14:27:50 | [IDC]Dragon | here I give you some extra spaces to fill in the places where I miss them: " " (should be enough for a while) |
| 14:28:53 | crash_ | [IDC]Dragon: yes it it |
| 14:29:06 | crash_ | and i think its much faster than vnc |
| 14:34:13 | [IDC]Dragon | can I do something about the console locking? |
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| 14:37:13 | [IDC]Dragon | TightVNC looks interesting, too |
| 14:41:51 | crash_ | what you mean with console locking? |
| 14:44:29 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: buy windows 2004 server ;-) |
| 14:44:47 | crash_ | doenst your windowmanager has a hotkey/run feature to just start a app ? |
| 14:45:00 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: (1) The local console is locked (even invisible) as long as you are connected via RDP |
| 14:46:42 | amiconn | (2) The client should be included with XP home. In fact, the client is available for free. It support all Win32 versions |
| 14:46:49 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: you may also want to look at ultr@vnc |
| 14:46:58 | Lynx_ | it supports file transfer |
| 14:47:43 | Lynx_ | amiconn: and os x and even linux is available |
| 14:49:19 | [IDC]Dragon | Lynx_: thanks, will try |
| 14:50:25 | Lynx_ | but rdp really is much better (and can also be tunneled over ssh) |
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| 14:53:20 | MooMaunder | Lynx: VNC can be tunneled also, I use it to connect to my PC at home from work. The only prob I see with VNC is with fast user switching |
| 14:54:32 | amiconn | (3) TightVNC is still way slower than RDP |
| 14:55:01 | [IDC]Dragon | any word on ultr@vnc? |
| 14:55:29 | Lynx_ | MooMaunder: yes, that's what i meant by 'also' |
| 14:56:05 | MooMaunder | Oooopps....should have read it properly!! :-( |
| 14:56:19 | amiconn | It isn't necessary to tunnel RDP via SSH, because RDP is encrypted (unlike VNC) |
| 14:56:26 | Lynx_ | MooMaunder: the fast user switching can be a prob indeed, depending on the vnc distribution i had varying results with getting the login screen displayed (with vnc server running as a service, of course) |
| 14:57:00 | Lynx_ | amiconn: yes, i have to tunnel it because of firewall restrictions |
| 14:57:05 | MooMaunder | Yeah, I either get an error msg or sometime it won't even connect at all |
| 14:57:30 | [IDC]Dragon | I'd need an http interface to use it from work |
| 14:57:33 | Lynx_ | amiconn: Hmm, now i remember there was even a way to change the listening port on the server though, i have not tried that yet |
| 14:57:55 | MooMaunder | I tunnel as I like the extra layer of protection that the SSH login gives me, instead of having a raw VNC or RDP on the internet |
| 14:58:01 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: the vnc's provide one... at least real does |
| 14:58:49 | amiconn | Yes, you can change the port (default: 3389) both on the client (very easy, just add :<port> after the server name) and on the server (requires changing a registry key) |
| 14:59:45 | MooMaunder | [IDC]Dragon: you could try ssl explorer...http://www.sshtools.com/products/enterprise/ssl-explorer/ssl-explorer.jsp |
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| 14:59:56 | Lynx_ | amiconn: but the network admins here probably would not be to happy to find rdp on the only port they dare to open ;) |
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| 15:00:43 | MooMaunder | Lynx_ that last msg was actually meant for you... oh the shame of it!! |
| 15:01:22 | Lynx_ | MooMaunder: thx, but currently i'm happy with rdp |
| 15:02:09 | MooMaunder | I meant for SSL tunneling of your rdp |
| 15:02:44 | Lynx_ | i read an article in one of the latest c't magazines about a remote desktop software that supposedly allows mulitple users to login to one xp prof machine (!) but forgot to check it out. |
| 15:02:51 | amiconn | MooMaunder: With VNC, I'd rather use an additional encryption layer, because VNC itself does not encrypt. That's not necessary with RDP |
| 15:02:59 | Lynx_ | MooMaunder: i tunnel it through ssh |
| 15:05:22 | MooMaunder | So do I, but a couple of my colleagues use the SSL explorer... I suupose it just allows connections from companys only allowing http and https |
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| 15:24:56 | amiconn | Lynx_: (file transfer) RDP does also allow to map the client's drives to the server |
| 15:30:26 | Lynx_ | amiconn: ah, how does that work? |
| 15:32:59 | Lynx_ | amiconn: found it, thx for the tip |
| 15:33:12 | ripnetuk | have you tried nx? its a x-windows compressor, which makes X /almost/ as fast as rdp |
| 15:38:44 | [IDC]Dragon | what happened to yesterday's IRC log? IE shows the text without line breaks |
| 15:39:47 | LinusN | perhaps there were some foreign characters in it, and IE decided that it isn't a text file? |
| 15:40:17 | [IDC]Dragon | interesting behaviour |
| 15:40:29 | LinusN | mozilla has a similar approach |
| 15:40:42 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: you really don't have an ideal working enviroment, only http, ie as a browser...;) |
| 15:40:51 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm not into web technology, but doesn't it come with a mime type or such? |
| 15:40:57 | LinusN | it's because too many web servers say it's text when it isn't |
| 15:41:11 | LinusN | (mime type) |
| 15:41:49 | LinusN | (or rather content type) |
| 15:42:40 | LinusN | time to go |
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| 15:44:56 | [IDC]Dragon | Lynx_: cripplenet, yes |
| 15:45:21 | [IDC]Dragon | the most annoying is the blocked SSH port |
| 15:45:40 | Lynx_ | does ssh not work over port 80 somehow? |
| 15:46:07 | [IDC]Dragon | with special configured counterpart perhaps |
| 15:46:53 | Lynx_ | hmm, i guess you would have to be able to control the server |
| 15:47:14 | ripnetuk | or another server that can forward port 80 to the ssh server port 22 |
| 15:47:47 | Lynx_ | ripnetuk: hmm, and because it's encrypted you would not even have to trust the forwarding server, i guess |
| 15:47:56 | ripnetuk | yeah |
| 15:48:01 | ripnetuk | i would guess the same |
| 15:48:54 | ripnetuk | of course, your work (or whereever) must allow direct connections out to port 80, and not be going via a proxy server |
| 15:49:38 | Lynx_ | ripnetuk: unless you can use the inhouse proxy to do the tunneling... |
| 15:49:51 | Lynx_ | s/tunneling/forwarding/ |
| 15:50:08 | ripnetuk | i guess |
| 15:50:13 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: http://www.jfranken.de/homepages/johannes/vortraege/ssh3.de.html |
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| 15:52:31 | [IDC]Dragon | no, I'm not messing around with such, to avoid "company jail" |
| 15:53:23 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: good reason ;) |
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| 15:59:19 | c0g0 | hey now i have one more question for this channel :D |
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| 16:00:07 | c0g0 | i wonder what kind of codecs are in mpeg4 eima adpcm ? |
| 16:00:14 | c0g0 | is that like mpeg4 sp? |
| 16:00:19 | * | kurzhaarrocker shrugs |
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| 16:00:28 | c0g0 | hehe k... |
| 16:00:51 | c0g0 | cause its on the specs on the datex pavio |
| 16:01:05 | c0g0 | if anyone knows please let me know :D |
| 16:01:19 | Lynx_ | c0g0: no idea...try #xvid |
| 16:04:57 | c0g0 | thx ;D |
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| 16:13:47 | dwihno | yay for proxies! |
| 16:13:49 | dwihno | and tunnels |
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| 16:51:15 | Lynx_ | dwihno: yay for open proxies in taiwan ;) |
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| 16:52:22 | dwihno | Lynx: hehu |
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| 17:46:42 | webguest18 | Hi there! |
| 17:47:19 | webguest18 | is the rockbox firmware compatible with the Archos Jukebox Multimedia 20? |
| 17:48:09 | webguest18 | anyone there? ;) |
| 17:50:20 | webguest18 | please help me! |
| 17:52:43 | oxygen77 | I don't think it is |
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| 17:53:00 | oxygen77 | as it is not stated in the rockboxx website |
| 17:53:17 | webguest18 | hmm |
| 17:53:29 | webguest18 | and is it right that it only has usb1.1 ? |
| 17:53:48 | oxygen77 | in linav project we are currently on porting it to the jbm |
| 17:54:08 | oxygen77 | yes, usb1 |
| 17:54:40 | webguest18 | have the sollution ;) |
| 17:54:55 | oxygen77 | ? |
| 17:55:08 | webguest18 | found on the archos webpage the Jukebox Recorder 20 |
| 17:55:19 | webguest18 | for only 200%u20AC ;) |
| 17:55:25 | webguest18 | 200 Euro.. |
| 17:55:32 | oxygen77 | k |
| 17:55:38 | webguest18 | it supports the rockbox firmware right? |
| 17:55:45 | oxygen77 | yup |
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| 17:56:03 | webguest18 | cool! |
| 17:56:22 | oxygen77 | 200 euro is a bit high no? |
| 17:56:36 | webguest18 | is it? |
| 17:56:52 | [IDC]Dragon | not really |
| 17:56:53 | webguest18 | what is the normal price? |
| 17:56:59 | oxygen77 | you can find jbm at this price |
| 17:57:08 | [IDC]Dragon | considering it's a collectors' item meanwhile |
| 17:57:14 | webguest18 | what? |
| 17:57:16 | oxygen77 | hehe |
| 17:57:30 | webguest18 | whats jbm? |
| 17:58:00 | oxygen77 | Jukebox Multimedia |
| 17:58:03 | webguest18 | have the creative jukebox with 6GB and searching for a new player.. |
| 17:58:17 | webguest18 | have you got a link? |
| 17:58:27 | oxygen77 | ebay ? |
| 17:58:51 | webguest18 | and how much do you pay for it? |
| 17:59:12 | webguest18 | ah...now i understand ;) |
| 17:59:23 | webguest18 | it was the device a first was talking about! |
| 17:59:31 | webguest18 | its shit... |
| 17:59:31 | oxygen77 | yup |
| 17:59:42 | oxygen77 | what? the device? |
| 17:59:43 | webguest18 | only usb1.1 and doesnt support rockbox |
| 17:59:56 | webguest18 | yes ;) |
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| 18:00:05 | oxygen77 | is the recorder usb2 ? |
| 18:00:11 | webguest18 | yes |
| 18:00:14 | oxygen77 | k |
| 18:00:51 | webguest18 | i think 200 Euro for a new device is the best price i can get |
| 18:03:21 | webguest18 | do you now how long i can use the batteries? |
| 18:03:27 | webguest18 | with the Jukebox Recorder 20 |
| 18:04:00 | [IDC]Dragon | Huygens has apparently landed |
| 18:04:12 | [IDC]Dragon | the ESA site is overloaded |
| 18:05:04 | Lynx_ | loads fast for me |
| 18:07:32 | [IDC]Dragon | then it may be a bad link |
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| 18:07:56 | [IDC]Dragon | I get an error page instead of the front article |
| 18:08:18 | Lynx_ | i am here: http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Cassini-Huygens/index.html |
| 18:08:21 | [IDC]Dragon | Europe reaches new frontier %u2013 Huygens lands on Titan Full story -> |
| 18:08:49 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, there it works |
| 18:09:08 | [IDC]Dragon | you got a better mirror |
| 18:11:08 | Lynx_ | esa.de redirects to esa.int... |
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| 18:11:36 | Lynx_ | 7 year journey, quite some time... |
| 18:12:49 | [IDC]Dragon | the text reads a bit raw, with notes to the publisher |
| 18:14:24 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, no mention yet about what they found |
| 18:14:45 | [IDC]Dragon | just confirming that it properly got there |
| 18:20:10 | Lynx_ | pics are for later ;) |
| 18:20:11 | Lynx_ | bye |
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| 18:44:58 | dcran | am I reading correctly??? Did LinusN actually get the bootloader working? However with a green backlight? |
| 18:45:11 | dcran | on the H120? |
| 18:45:50 | [IDC]Dragon | no, that was a RecV1 operation |
| 18:45:59 | dcran | darn |
| 18:48:09 | preglow | you nearly made me swallow my tongue, here |
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| 18:48:51 | dcran | heh I know, |
| 18:49:46 | dcran | its almost sad that we are waited with baited breath in an IRC channel for a bootloader for an mp3 player |
| 18:49:56 | dcran | waited/waiting |
| 18:50:17 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't ;-) |
| 18:50:50 | preglow | hell no, this'll be the bootloader of the century |
| 18:51:03 | preglow | there will be celebrations in the streets |
| 18:51:44 | dcran | think it will have any similarities to the falling of the berlin wall? |
| 18:52:57 | preglow | there will be obvious similarities |
| 18:53:17 | dcran | lots of drunk germans??? ;) |
| 18:53:31 | preglow | haha |
| 18:53:33 | preglow | let's hope so |
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| 19:17:12 | Tang | Hello :) |
| 19:20:17 | preglow | hi |
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| 19:37:38 | Tang | Hi preglow |
| 19:37:42 | Tang | :) |
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| 20:43:29 | Yokalosh | Hi, Amiconn you know alot about RVF |
| 20:43:42 | Yokalosh | You can't help me with a question can you? |
| 20:44:29 | amiconn | I can try... |
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| 20:48:00 | Yokalosh | Well, is there supposed to be a flashyness to my videos? |
| 20:49:28 | amiconn | What do you mean? |
| 20:49:52 | amiconn | The video playback does look a bit grainy, especially if the unit gets warm. |
| 20:49:59 | Yokalosh | When i am watching the videos they pixelate sometimes seemingly flashing |
| 20:50:07 | Yokalosh | Ok |
| 20:50:21 | Yokalosh | So mainly when it is charging? |
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| 20:51:21 | Yokalosh | Secondly why is there a weird line that runs up and down the screen when veiwing pictures and videos |
| 20:51:22 | amiconn | Yokalosh: yes. |
| 20:52:16 | amiconn | This line is caused by the interference of the internal refresh rate of the lcd and the frame rate. |
| 20:52:38 | Yokalosh | Ok, anyway to solve this? |
| 20:52:56 | amiconn | Unfortunately, it is not possible to synchronize the frame transfer to the internal refresh rate, and the latter is temperature dependent. |
| 20:53:18 | Yokalosh | Ok, thanks |
| 20:53:20 | amiconn | So it's unavoidable, unfortunately. |
| 20:53:47 | Yokalosh | And just a totally random question cause you seem like you might know, how do i use cPanel? |
| 20:53:55 | Yokalosh | Lol |
| 20:55:28 | amiconn | What is cPanel? |
| 20:57:50 | Yokalosh | Its the er thing on the net used for making sites |
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| 21:00:17 | Yokalosh | Don't worry about it if you don't know what i mean |
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| 21:15:27 | crash_ | maybe try mambo if cpanel is too complicated |
| 21:19:45 | Yokalosh | Cool |
| 21:20:08 | Yokalosh | But i have space on this server somewhere and the site i have to upload from uses cPanel |
| 21:23:52 | Yokalosh | :( |
| 21:24:12 | Yokalosh | I will need to learn it someday cos freewebs is rubbish |
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| 23:18:20 | | Quit TexJoachim ("Bye!") |
| 23:58:06 | | Quit dcran ("dcran has no reason") |
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