| 00:00:27 | amiconn | This produces a looong list of output that looks like mentioning every file in the repo |
| 00:00:32 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:00:36 | Bagder | its horrible |
| 00:01:00 | Bagder | the diff was easier to read |
| 00:02:32 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: The only differences between 2.4 and the build I put in my old player flash package are irrelevant for players, so I can use 2.4 |
| 00:03:29 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, ok, and what was your concern? |
| 00:04:10 | amiconn | Maybe something had changed which was important to make it work. Fortunately not. |
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| 00:05:36 | amiconn | 2.4 looks like it was built 2004-12-21. At least the file date says so. |
| 00:06:08 | Zagor | yes it was |
| 00:07:11 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: will you send me that dump? |
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| 00:07:47 | amiconn | Yes of course. I just wanted to build the _norom firmware first, to include that. |
| 00:08:05 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, ok |
| 00:08:20 | quelsaruk | amiconn: i forgot to use spanish voice.. so i have a strange spanish with english accent |
| 00:08:21 | quelsaruk | :D |
| 00:08:39 | quelsaruk | i'll try to repair that right now |
| 00:09:47 | amiconn | Firmwares rebuilt (both ordinary and _norom), going to flash ordinary version for a test... |
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| 00:11:40 | amiconn | ..works :) |
| 00:12:07 | [IDC]Dragon | you've put my "platform ID" in your template, right? |
| 00:12:30 | amiconn | Yes. platform_id == 2, bootloader_version == 1 |
| 00:14:46 | [IDC]Dragon | the _norom doesn't need a "real" template |
| 00:14:56 | [IDC]Dragon | nothing in there anyway |
| 00:15:35 | [IDC]Dragon | but I kept the little content, just to play safe |
| 00:16:19 | amiconn | Mail sent. |
| 00:17:10 | [IDC]Dragon | got it, thanks |
| 00:18:31 | jyp | I'm editing http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler with instructions for calmrisc |
| 00:18:39 | Bagder | neato |
| 00:19:41 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I have a fresh player flash package here. I'd prefer to distribute this one, because it also contains 2.4 instead of cvs in the ordinary firmware. |
| 00:20:20 | amiconn | I also rebuilt the bootloader (newer gcc) for the ordinary variant |
| 00:21:08 | Zagor | bed time. see you all tomorrow. |
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| 00:23:10 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: we can do that together with _norom then |
| 00:23:40 | [IDC]Dragon | or what do you mean? |
| 00:23:41 | amiconn | YEs, that's what I meant. The zip already contains both. |
| 00:24:19 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm trying to do my own right now, to countercheck |
| 00:26:17 | amiconn | The bootloader will only be identical when you use the same gcc version as me (3.3.5) |
| 00:27:14 | amiconn | Btw: The make_firmware help says that one has to use a scrambled bootloader. This is not true for _norom... |
| 00:27:39 | [IDC]Dragon | outdated, yes |
| 00:32:41 | quelsaruk | amiconn: how can i find out the L&H TTS3000 spanish voice name? |
| 00:33:24 | amiconn | You really want to use a TTS3000 voice? I tried a German TTS3000 voice, it sounds awful... |
| 00:33:43 | quelsaruk | i can't find another spanish sapi file |
| 00:33:47 | quelsaruk | :/ |
| 00:33:52 | quelsaruk | seems that AT&T has one |
| 00:33:54 | quelsaruk | but.. |
| 00:33:54 | amiconn | The TTS3000 voices seem to have simple names, the German one is called "Anna" |
| 00:34:04 | quelsaruk | don't know how to download it |
| 00:34:16 | quelsaruk | where did you find your german voice? |
| 00:34:53 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: have you used rombox for these? |
| 00:35:02 | amiconn | yup. |
| 00:36:13 | amiconn | quelsaruk: Which german voice do you mean? If you mean the AT&T voices I am using for the voice files: I bought them. |
| 00:36:25 | quelsaruk | oh |
| 00:36:32 | quelsaruk | bought them... |
| 00:36:33 | quelsaruk | hmmm |
| 00:36:45 | quelsaruk | what an interesting point of view |
| 00:36:46 | quelsaruk | :D |
| 00:36:58 | amiconn | Unfortunately AT&T doesn't have european spansih, only latin american spanish. |
| 00:37:03 | * | jyp thinks... you should have sampled some Rammstein |
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| 00:37:27 | quelsaruk | then, i don't want to use those AT&T voices :/ |
| 00:41:03 | quelsaruk | no |
| 00:41:21 | quelsaruk | i don't like "Rosa", the latin american voice |
| 00:41:37 | quelsaruk | (AT&T voice) |
| 00:42:35 | quelsaruk | anyway amiconn, where was that TTS3000 voice? to find out her name |
| 00:43:15 | amiconn | ScanSoft Realspeak is interesting: http://www.scansoft.com/realspeak/ . Many languages... |
| 00:46:08 | amiconn | quelsaruk: Did you already install it? |
| 00:46:13 | quelsaruk | yes |
| 00:47:56 | quelsaruk | scansoft voice was nice.. portuguese is even better than spanish (i could understand it better) |
| 00:50:21 | amiconn | I put together a little VBScript that lists all installed SAPI5 voices |
| 00:53:30 | quelsaruk | ¿? |
| 00:56:15 | amiconn | Look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceBuilding#Tools |
| 00:56:53 | quelsaruk | oh |
| 00:57:03 | quelsaruk | i didn't notice that |
| 00:57:04 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 00:57:05 | quelsaruk | sorry |
| 00:57:57 | amiconn | I just added it. No worry :) |
| 00:58:14 | quelsaruk | great... this says i only have those 3 english voices |
| 00:58:24 | quelsaruk | maybe what i have are sapi4 spanish voices |
| 00:58:31 | amiconn | Argl.... TTS3000 is SAPI4 :( |
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| 00:58:43 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: my _norom build is identical |
| 00:58:45 | amiconn | Then building the voice will take a while |
| 00:59:01 | quelsaruk | i'm trying to get a sapi5 voice |
| 00:59:03 | quelsaruk | but... |
| 00:59:11 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Already tried with your simulator? |
| 00:59:15 | quelsaruk | i don't know if i'll be able to |
| 00:59:21 | [IDC]Dragon | no, not today any more |
| 00:59:53 | [IDC]Dragon | took me a while to compile on the notebook, never used the dev environment there yet |
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| 01:02:47 | amiconn | quelsaruk: I have similar code for listing SAPI4 voices. There'll soon be another script :) |
| 01:02:57 | quelsaruk | hahahaha |
| 01:03:02 | quelsaruk | perfect |
| 01:07:19 | amiconn | Now look again at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceBuilding#Tools |
| 01:08:06 | amiconn | The SAPI4 voices are a bit cumbersome. |
| 01:08:31 | [IDC]Dragon | goodnight! |
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| 01:08:55 | amiconn | There are 2 name-like fields, "ModeName" and "Speaker". For most voices, only one of the fields is really descriptive, the other contains a generic name. |
| 01:09:36 | quelsaruk | amiconn: error |
| 01:09:38 | amiconn | Just use the name that is more descriptive |
| 01:09:41 | quelsaruk | :/ |
| 01:09:58 | amiconn | ?? What error? |
| 01:11:46 | quelsaruk | line 2, char 1 −−-> error (i don't know how to translate this... but says something about ActiveVoice.activeVoice.. something like can't locate or something like that :/ |
| 01:12:41 | amiconn | Ah. I have an idea what might be going on... |
| 01:14:59 | amiconn | Try the updated version. |
| 01:15:29 | amiconn | If this also doesn't work, it is likely that voice file generation won't work either. |
| 01:15:51 | amiconn | If this is the case, you'll probably need to install the SAPI4 SDK. |
| 01:16:01 | quelsaruk | now it's line 8, char 5.. cant find again the activevoice.activevoice.1 |
| 01:16:03 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 01:16:43 | amiconn | That means you don't have either ActiveX control that is needed for SAPI4 scripting. |
| 01:16:53 | quelsaruk | strange |
| 01:17:09 | quelsaruk | as i have installed this |
| 01:17:10 | quelsaruk | but.. |
| 01:17:14 | quelsaruk | if it says so.. |
| 01:17:14 | quelsaruk | :D |
| 01:17:20 | quelsaruk | anyway |
| 01:17:22 | quelsaruk | is quite late |
| 01:17:30 | quelsaruk | maybe tomorrow i can think a bit better |
| 01:17:32 | amiconn | You have the SAPI *4* sdk installed? |
| 01:17:32 | quelsaruk | cu |
| 01:17:35 | quelsaruk | and thanks |
| 01:17:48 | amiconn | Anyway, nite! |
| 01:18:02 | quelsaruk | amiconn: i thinki installed when i made the "folder and file" voice |
| 01:18:38 | amiconn | You can't have used the TTS voice for files & folders. |
| 01:18:58 | amiconn | The files & folders voice script doesn't support SAPI4, it uses SAPI5 * |
| 01:19:02 | amiconn | *only* |
| 01:19:46 | amiconn | The SAPI5 SDK doesn't include SAPI4 support; SAPI4 and SAPI5 are entirely different. |
| 01:21:44 | quelsaruk | yes, but i installed a lot of things |
| 01:21:45 | quelsaruk | :D |
| 01:22:02 | quelsaruk | i installed TT |
| 01:22:10 | quelsaruk | TTS3000 then |
| 01:22:36 | quelsaruk | and i think i installed or at least tried to install SAPI4 |
| 01:22:38 | quelsaruk | :/ |
| 01:22:40 | quelsaruk | can't remember |
| 01:22:42 | amiconn | Yes. However, it looks like TTS3000 doesn't include the necessary ActiveX controls. |
| 01:22:48 | quelsaruk | possibly |
| 01:22:50 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 01:23:22 | amiconn | SAPI4 SDK is huge (but not as huge as SAPI5 SDK) - about 40 MB. And it is rather hard to find nowadays.... |
| 01:23:47 | amiconn | There is also a runtime distribution, which is small, but maybe not sufficient. |
| 01:23:59 | quelsaruk | anyway |
| 01:24:12 | quelsaruk | i'll try to get a sapi5 voice |
| 01:24:22 | quelsaruk | i really like loquendo spanish voices |
| 01:24:23 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 01:26:00 | quelsaruk | good night |
| 01:26:06 | jyp | night |
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| 08:55:18 | LinusN | major iriver fraud alert on ebay... |
| 08:57:18 | LinusN | some chinese guy has put up 16 H140's with the same explanation about having to sell his 140 because his car stereo only connects to an ipod |
| 08:58:09 | ashridah | ... how is that even possible? |
| 08:59:55 | LinusN | good question |
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| 09:00:04 | LinusN | he has put up a load of 120's too |
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| 09:41:42 | Spida | lol |
| 09:42:15 | Spida | how is the iriver port of rockbox going? will it work on both ihp 140 and h340? |
| 09:42:34 | Zagor | we're focusing on the h100 series first |
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| 10:29:27 | amiconn | hi |
| 10:29:37 | Bagder | good day |
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| 10:31:01 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 10:40:10 | Zagor | ?Do not allow children to play in the dishwasher.? |
| 10:40:30 | dwihno | But I wanna! :( |
| 10:40:36 | Zagor | ?Never use hair dryer while sleeping? |
| 10:40:48 | dwihno | :) |
| 10:40:48 | Bagder | dwihno: you are allowed, you're not a child anymore |
| 10:41:00 | dwihno | Bagder: I'm the child of my mother |
| 10:41:02 | Zagor | wacky warning labels −−> http://www.mlaw.org/wwl/pastwinners.html |
| 10:41:08 | dwihno | Bagder: so perhaps I can't play in her dishwasher |
| 10:41:26 | Bagder | you have to get your own |
| 10:43:45 | dwihno | "Do not eat toner" |
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| 10:51:13 | Bagder | crlf |
| 10:51:20 | dwihno | rolf |
| 10:53:12 | Bagder | tr -d '\015' < language.h > language2.h |
| 10:53:30 | Bagder | useful little line |
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| 10:54:22 | * | quelsaruk is happy now |
| 10:54:35 | quelsaruk | i think i'm even gonna cry |
| 10:54:37 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 10:55:00 | Bagder | does it speak spanish? |
| 10:55:27 | quelsaruk | spanish? does that exist? |
| 10:55:46 | quelsaruk | i made my first commit after more than one year |
| 10:55:54 | Bagder | ah, that |
| 10:56:05 | Bagder | congratulations! |
| 10:56:09 | quelsaruk | ¬¬ |
| 10:56:13 | quelsaruk | thanks :) |
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| 11:09:07 | Zagor | i'm still puzzled why the activestate perl produces wrong databases |
| 11:09:50 | Bagder | if you use the same input and two perls, can't you see what byte(s) that differ? |
| 11:10:25 | Zagor | yes, it was the third field of the header last time i checked |
| 11:11:27 | Bagder | songdb doesn't binmode |
| 11:11:36 | Bagder | can that be the reason? |
| 11:11:59 | Zagor | ahh, it probably is |
| 11:12:15 | Zagor | amazing that old crap still lives in windows |
| 11:12:37 | Bagder | yeps |
| 11:12:44 | Bagder | and it always hits you over the fingers |
| 11:13:01 | LinusN | i'm amazed that we keep stumbling on that binmode crap, and never learn :-) |
| 11:13:39 | Bagder | yeah |
| 11:13:43 | Bagder | we're getting too old |
| 11:13:52 | Bagder | maybe we should be taken outside and shot? |
| 11:14:26 | Zagor | maybe we should stop meddling with inferior systems :) |
| 11:14:50 | Bagder | maybe we should patch those systems to do right? :-P |
| 11:15:26 | LinusN | send a patch to microsoft |
| 11:16:11 | Bagder | yes, I'll just checkout the latest from cvs first |
| 11:16:54 | Bagder | cvs -d microsoft.com/cvsroot co windows |
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| 11:26:55 | dwihno | Visual SourceSafe!!! :) |
| 11:27:02 | dwihno | Or whatever their product is named |
| 11:27:17 | dwihno | The question is, how do they keep track of that product? :) |
| 11:29:00 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: r u there? |
| 11:29:03 | Bagder | microsoft doesn't use sourcesafe |
| 11:29:21 | Bagder | it isn't safe |
| 11:29:28 | Bagder | and that's not a joke |
| 11:30:10 | [IDC]Dragon | at least it behaves better than ClearCase here |
| 11:30:30 | Bagder | possibly |
| 11:30:31 | Zagor | lunch |
| 11:30:47 | [IDC]Dragon | but it's only suitable for local projects |
| 11:30:55 | Bagder | but if you google for 5 mins, you'll find hundreds of shocking stories about sourcesafe |
| 11:31:11 | Bagder | plus the fact that MS themselves don't use it |
| 11:31:33 | [IDC]Dragon | they perhaps don't use it because it's not powerful enough |
| 11:31:45 | LinusN | like clearcase |
| 11:31:54 | Bagder | it is a wellknown fact that sourcesafe repositories break every now and then |
| 11:31:54 | [IDC]Dragon | no sophisticated branching, multisite, etc. |
| 11:32:23 | quelsaruk | Bagder: uplang should not have a line like >> print "voice: ".$all{$id, 'voice'}."\n"; in the *output new phares not translated* ??? |
| 11:32:36 | [IDC]Dragon | you have to sortof "checkdisk" them |
| 11:32:43 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I am here (sort of) |
| 11:32:44 | Bagder | MS use some perforce |
| 11:32:54 | Bagder | developed for them |
| 11:33:02 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: I traced the player image, seems OK |
| 11:33:24 | Bagder | quelsaruk: why not? |
| 11:33:43 | quelsaruk | Bagder: i say it should, or at least i wanted to say that... |
| 11:33:48 | Bagder | aha |
| 11:33:50 | quelsaruk | right now, that doesn't exist |
| 11:34:02 | Bagder | if that fixes a problem, go ahead |
| 11:34:12 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: I've checked it both decompressing image 1 and going there, plus executing image 2 (rombox) |
| 11:34:45 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: So I'll put up the zip to my webspace now. |
| 11:35:01 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm fine with it, yes |
| 11:35:37 | [IDC]Dragon | but still, ask somebody if he wants to volunteer and tell results asap |
| 11:37:18 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN probably didn't mod his player yet? |
| 11:38:11 | LinusN | i did the uart mod last night, but then my kids woke up... :-( |
| 11:39:00 | quelsaruk | and Bagder, there's a problem with uplang checking voice lines :/ it changes all voices to default (english) |
| 11:39:18 | Bagder | that's bad |
| 11:40:15 | [IDC]Dragon | must be a noisy uart mod... ;-) |
| 11:41:56 | LinusN | lol |
| 11:42:20 | [IDC]Dragon | did you exchange the chip? |
| 11:42:45 | LinusN | no, i want to make sure theu boot mod works before i do that |
| 11:42:57 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, fair |
| 11:45:27 | * | LinusN has a nice soldering tip that heats an entire row of pins at once |
| 11:45:38 | LinusN | soldering the flash is a breeze |
| 11:45:55 | [IDC]Dragon | I have such a tip as well |
| 11:46:14 | [IDC]Dragon | two, in fact, it's a tweezer |
| 11:46:26 | [IDC]Dragon | well, my company has it |
| 11:46:51 | [IDC]Dragon | I use that only for soldering it out |
| 11:46:55 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Flash package updated in webspace. |
| 11:47:10 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll update mine, too |
| 11:47:31 | [IDC]Dragon | probably the other .bin is identical, too |
| 11:48:52 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: a breeze? last time you had a short or so |
| 11:50:05 | LinusN | yes, it is not that well suited for soldering, mainly unsoldering |
| 11:50:13 | dwihno | tweezer? |
| 11:50:23 | dwihno | pincett? |
| 11:50:24 | LinusN | pincett på svenska |
| 11:50:29 | dwihno | ah, ok |
| 11:50:36 | quelsaruk | Bagder: don't you think that uplang should only update the voice line when changes from "" to "some text here"? So it doesn't change translated voice lines... |
| 11:50:39 | LinusN | (eller snarare franska) |
| 11:50:40 | dwihno | my engrish not guud |
| 11:50:50 | dwihno | formfranska |
| 11:51:00 | LinusN | lunch time |
| 11:51:14 | Bagder | quelsaruk: uplang is probably lacking in the voice department in general |
| 11:51:18 | Bagder | since it was added later on |
| 11:51:24 | quelsaruk | yes |
| 11:51:26 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 11:53:12 | amiconn | I think uplang should replace the voice: entry with english only if the eng: entry changed. |
| 11:53:28 | quelsaruk | maybe |
| 11:53:29 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 11:53:31 | [IDC]Dragon | there are some caveats with the voice entries |
| 11:53:58 | [IDC]Dragon | to properly deal with only the truly spoken entries, and voice-only entries |
| 11:59:43 | quelsaruk | have to go.. bbl |
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| 13:02:22 | Zagor | now makedb.bat works |
| 13:04:25 | LinusN | already? :-) |
| 13:04:50 | Zagor | the path problem was due to double slashes. windows can't handle that. |
| 13:12:00 | ashridah | as i say, check the docs for libc, there's rather a lot of them |
| 13:12:04 | ashridah | argh |
| 13:12:04 | ashridah | wrong channel |
| 13:30:43 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: how much of your "virtual directory entry" code for the mmc folder is ready? i need to add virtual entries to the id3 browser, and it would be good if we handle it with the same/similar code |
| 13:43:33 | Lynx_ | Zagor: is the db stuff already usable in the current daily build? |
| 13:43:53 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: it is ready |
| 13:44:21 | Zagor | Lynx_: you can play around with it, but you can't play music with it yet |
| 13:44:50 | Lynx_ | Zagor: good enough for now, i'll try it :) |
| 13:45:08 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: but it's not committed, is it? |
| 13:45:15 | [IDC]Dragon | it is |
| 13:45:21 | Zagor | oh. where do I look? |
| 13:45:24 | [IDC]Dragon | since quite a while |
| 13:45:41 | [IDC]Dragon | in dir.c, opendir() or so |
| 13:46:02 | [IDC]Dragon | what do you want to "virtualize"? |
| 13:46:08 | Zagor | ah, naturally. well then can't do it the same way |
| 13:46:39 | Zagor | i need to create a top folder containing folders "Artists", "Albums", "Songs" etc |
| 13:46:55 | Zagor | as per the tree in wiki:TagDatabase |
| 13:46:58 | [IDC]Dragon | just for the tree browser, I guess |
| 13:47:04 | Zagor | yes |
| 13:47:18 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, mine is lower |
| 13:47:40 | [IDC]Dragon | but only very little code |
| 13:48:25 | [IDC]Dragon | in opendir() and readdir() |
| 13:48:31 | Zagor | yeah I see it |
| 13:50:37 | Lynx_ | Zagor: hmm, why does the batch file work under windows now? Isn't it still just / as a path? |
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| 14:00:22 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: Jens raised the issue on how somebody could create a db for the multivolumed Ondio |
| 14:00:54 | [IDC]Dragon | not that would be very large... |
| 14:01:06 | [IDC]Dragon | ... on a flash player |
| 14:02:19 | [IDC]Dragon | it would require 2 script runs into a joined db |
| 14:02:47 | [IDC]Dragon | with the entries of the 2nd prefixed "/<MMC1>/" |
| 14:08:28 | amiconn | I'm thinking of writing a createdb plugin anyway. This shouldn't run very long on the Ondio... |
| 14:10:10 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 14:10:39 | quelsaruk | hmmm... |
| 14:11:29 | * | quelsaruk fighting with cygwin |
| 14:12:43 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: true |
| 14:13:24 | [IDC]Dragon | I still walk around with the idea of using the true volume name of the partition |
| 14:14:01 | [IDC]Dragon | in sharp brackets, instead of <MMC1> |
| 14:14:32 | [IDC]Dragon | with hotswat, a db could even spawn multiple cards |
| 14:14:50 | [IDC]Dragon | hotwap, hehe, not hotsweat |
| 14:15:37 | [IDC]Dragon | you could be queried to insert card <XYZ> to carry on ;-) |
| 14:17:50 | amiconn | A dbmerge shouldn't be too difficult to write. |
| 14:20:27 | [IDC]Dragon | something like joining the content, taking the max. field size of both, re-sorting the tables |
| 14:22:18 | Zagor | Lynx_: the / path wasn't the problem. the problem was the script tried to open doubleslashed paths sometimes |
| 14:22:20 | amiconn | yup. Not too different from db creation |
| 14:22:33 | Zagor | dbmerge should be fairly easy, yes |
| 14:23:24 | Zagor | i also plan to write an −−addnew option to songdb.pl, which only scans for added/removed files |
| 14:24:23 | Lynx_ | Zagor: ah, my mistake then... |
| 14:24:58 | Lynx_ | Zagor: won't scanning for added/removed files take as long as rebuilding the db? |
| 14:25:20 | Zagor | no, since we don't need to open and read all existing files. |
| 14:25:37 | Zagor | we only read the dir and check that they exist in the database |
| 14:25:44 | Lynx_ | Zagor: Ah, of course, forgot the id3 thing ;) |
| 14:25:44 | [IDC]Dragon | why not use −−addnew all the time then? |
| 14:26:13 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: good point |
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| 14:26:18 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: what if only the id3 tags changed? i do that all the time... |
| 14:26:31 | Lynx_ | or does it check for file sizes? |
| 14:26:51 | Lynx_ | if changing the tag alters the mp3 file size in the first place |
| 14:27:06 | Zagor | not necessarily |
| 14:27:08 | [IDC]Dragon | well, then rather a −−forcerefresh option |
| 14:27:18 | Zagor | exactly |
| 14:27:33 | preglow | what is portalplayer? :V |
| 14:27:48 | [IDC]Dragon | which is the same as deleting the db file first... |
| 14:28:06 | Zagor | preglow: a cpu/microcontroller used in the ipod, rio karma and iriver h10. |
| 14:28:38 | preglow | yes, i saw some post linus made on misticriver mentioning that |
| 14:28:55 | preglow | i like the coldfire, heh |
| 14:29:18 | dwihno | Seems like the H10 is going to have countless limits |
| 14:29:36 | dwihno | Only ipod-like people will buy it (that is, only people with design in mind) |
| 14:29:56 | preglow | the windows only limitation is more than enough to make me never look at it |
| 14:30:05 | preglow | seems i got one of irivers last good players with the h120 |
| 14:30:19 | Zagor | dwihno: i think rather people that don't research before they buy will buy it. sadly, there are many such people. |
| 14:30:23 | Lynx_ | Zagor: there is no support for more than one db file, is there? short of renaming them, i mean. |
| 14:30:29 | Zagor | Lynx_: no |
| 14:30:53 | dwihno | Zagor: considering the price, people should read up the subject before purchasing |
| 14:30:59 | Lynx_ | Zagor: woudn't make much sense anyway, thinking about it |
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| 14:33:58 | dwihno | I'm actually quite pleased with my ifp-799 |
| 14:34:11 | dwihno | I wouldn't buy it if it didn't have the ums firmware |
| 14:36:53 | preglow | i bought the h120 because it had vorbis support and gapless playback was to be added in a future firmware. i didn't know better than to trust them at the time. |
| 14:40:40 | amiconn | Zagor: If the filedate would be stored in the db, a tag-only change could be detected as well without opening the file |
| 14:41:41 | Zagor | yes, that might be a good idea |
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| 14:51:13 | elinenbe | It looks like the neuros is finally open source and up and running... http://neuros-firmware.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/GarBageChangelog |
| 14:54:42 | Zagor | it's been like that for a while now. but they still have closed-source compiler and libraries |
| 14:55:22 | Zagor | though it's definitely progressing in a good direction |
| 14:55:26 | LinusN | and each developer can only be active for 90 days, unless they shell out a ton of cash for the compiler :-) |
| 14:55:58 | LinusN | still, it's cool that they are gaining momentum in the development |
| 14:56:17 | Zagor | yup |
| 14:56:40 | preglow | what cpu does it use? |
| 14:57:03 | LinusN | a TI DSP |
| 14:57:14 | preglow | ahh |
| 14:57:21 | Zagor | TI TMS320C54xx fixed point DSP |
| 14:57:22 | preglow | pretty much explains it |
| 14:58:57 | elinenbe | thus they need the TI compiler |
| 14:59:16 | elinenbe | at least it |
| 14:59:20 | elinenbe | is coming along. |
| 14:59:21 | elinenbe | b |
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| 15:01:28 | elinenbe | sorry for the random mess. I am putting a new keyboard in here... the enter button is nearly stuck down. maybe I shouldn't eat cotton candy dipped in honey when I am at work! |
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| 15:09:42 | elinenbe | I like langhaarrocker better! |
| 15:10:26 | kurzhaarrocker | I prefered that nick too, but it isn't true any more. |
| 15:11:13 | * | kurzhaarrocker needs new earphones |
| 15:12:41 | kurzhaarrocker | does anybody here know whether there are _that_ legendary koss earphones? |
| 15:12:51 | Zagor | that? |
| 15:13:42 | kurzhaarrocker | generally people seem to think highly of koss earphones. But they make many models. |
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| 15:16:23 | Lynx_ | kurzhaarrocker: their 'porta pro' model is frequently mentioned |
| 15:16:50 | * | kurzhaarrocker looks |
| 15:17:08 | kurzhaarrocker | grmpf |
| 15:17:14 | LinusN | i just love my EX70's |
| 15:17:17 | kurzhaarrocker | That's real headphones, not hearphones |
| 15:17:47 | kurzhaarrocker | The EX70 are fine for train journeys but I hate them while walking |
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| 15:18:57 | kurzhaarrocker | strange. I thought it was Zagor who was in awe of the EX70. |
| 15:20:21 | crash_ | i bought some ex-51s and love them too |
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| 15:20:55 | crash_ | but must change them to ex-71s cause they have are built up with smoother plastics than the ex-51s |
| 15:21:28 | Zagor | kurzhaarrocker: yeah i like them |
| 15:22:09 | Zagor | but I can understand why you don't like them while walking. all sealed earphones give that effect. |
| 15:22:16 | kurzhaarrocker | yes |
| 15:22:25 | Zagor | i don't walk much ;) |
| 15:22:35 | kurzhaarrocker | And the wires are so thin they whistle in the wind |
| 15:22:36 | preglow | what effect? |
| 15:22:44 | Zagor | sort of a thump for each step |
| 15:22:50 | preglow | hmm |
| 15:23:09 | kurzhaarrocker | like walking around when you have your fingers plugged into your ears. |
| 15:23:10 | Zagor | kurzhaarrocker: oh, i've never noticed that. and I use them a lot on my bike. |
| 15:23:11 | preglow | i haven't noticed it, but i've never owned koss earphones either |
| 15:23:12 | LinusN | and the scraping sound of the clothes against the wire sort of travels into the phones |
| 15:23:26 | preglow | LinusN: that is annoying, though |
| 15:23:26 | Zagor | preglow: we're talking about sony here :) |
| 15:23:30 | preglow | hah |
| 15:23:31 | preglow | ok |
| 15:23:46 | kurzhaarrocker | LinusN for that effect I found something worse: Sony E931 |
| 15:23:53 | LinusN | but i like that they are sealed |
| 15:24:08 | kurzhaarrocker | They coated the wires with cloth - a hell of rubbing sounds |
| 15:24:19 | LinusN | removes lots of ambient noise on the subway etc |
| 15:24:34 | LinusN | cloth, good idea :-) |
| 15:24:35 | preglow | yes, i can't stand open earphones |
| 15:24:45 | preglow | if i can hear the bus as it drives past me, something is wrong |
| 15:25:21 | kurzhaarrocker | preglow: volume to low? :) |
| 15:25:32 | preglow | kurzhaarrocker: i can assure you that's not a problem |
| 15:28:31 | Bagder | Rockbox on archos plays a lot louder than my iriver |
| 15:28:38 | Bagder | speaking of volume |
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| 15:33:26 | * | kurzhaarrocker still doesn't know why all those electronic toys don't have simple potis as volume dials |
| 15:34:14 | preglow | kurzhaarrocker: size |
| 15:34:24 | preglow | and probably durability |
| 15:34:42 | preglow | Bagder: why is that? |
| 15:34:59 | kurzhaarrocker | pah! Up & down buttons use the same space and wear off just the same. |
| 15:35:06 | Bagder | preglow: probably just a sw issue |
| 15:35:25 | Bagder | the original Archos firmware was a lot weaker too |
| 15:35:25 | preglow | kurzhaarrocker: no, a pot will almost certainly wear faster |
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| 15:36:11 | LinusN | plus i can imagine that the analog amplifier gets more complicated |
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| 15:36:54 | preglow | yes, unless the pot is used passively, ofcourse, in which case power will be wasted |
| 15:36:57 | preglow | heh |
| 15:37:00 | webguest97 | hi |
| 15:37:03 | LinusN | hi |
| 15:37:07 | preglow | elo |
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| 15:37:55 | webguest97 | what ist the difference between firmware_rec.bin and firmware_rec_norom.bin?` |
| 15:38:04 | webguest97 | or what is better? ;) |
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| 15:39:00 | webguest97 | anyone an idea? |
| 15:39:16 | LinusN | it depends on your boot ROM |
| 15:39:30 | webguest97 | i have the archos recorder 20 |
| 15:39:41 | LinusN | if the debug menu shows a checksum, then you should use the regular one |
| 15:40:02 | LinusN | if it doesn't show a checksum, you should use the _norom |
| 15:40:23 | webguest97 | what point is it in the debug menu? |
| 15:40:34 | LinusN | view hw info iirc |
| 15:41:25 | LinusN | just copy both .bin files to your archos, the firmware flash plugin will select the appropriate one |
| 15:41:26 | webguest97 | and where is now the checksum? |
| 15:41:36 | webguest97 | have both there |
| 15:41:48 | webguest97 | but the firmware programm cant flash it |
| 15:42:11 | LinusN | what does it say? |
| 15:42:21 | webguest97 | impossible to programm |
| 15:42:36 | webguest97 | m=?? d=?? |
| 15:42:37 | LinusN | then you might not have a programmable flash chip |
| 15:42:47 | LinusN | there you go, you can't flash it, sorry |
| 15:43:12 | webguest97 | buts its the recorder edition |
| 15:43:18 | LinusN | you have to replace the flash chip |
| 15:43:27 | preglow | a non-programmable flash chip? isn't that an oxymoron? ;) |
| 15:43:34 | LinusN | not all recorders have programmable flash chips |
| 15:43:39 | webguest97 | fuck |
| 15:43:50 | kurzhaarrocker | webguest97: maybe later |
| 15:43:50 | LinusN | well, they are programmable, but not in-place |
| 15:43:51 | preglow | doesn't that make it a rom and not a flash? |
| 15:43:56 | preglow | ahh |
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| 15:44:18 | LinusN | they can be replaced, but it is not trivial |
| 15:44:29 | webguest97 | heared that only the studio edition cant be flashed |
| 15:44:37 | LinusN | they can |
| 15:44:51 | LinusN | there are a few studios out there with the proper chips |
| 15:45:53 | webguest97 | isnt it possible to write a new flashprogram? |
| 15:45:54 | LinusN | according to our documentation, "chances are about 85% (recorders) that you have [the correct flash chip]" |
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| 15:46:04 | webguest97 | for the recorder.. |
| 15:46:15 | LinusN | webguest97: no, the chips aren't made to be in-place programmable |
| 15:46:25 | webguest97 | oh no |
| 15:46:33 | LinusN | a cheaper version |
| 15:46:45 | webguest97 | what advantage does it have to have it in a flash? |
| 15:46:54 | webguest97 | know only about boottime.. |
| 15:47:00 | LinusN | you can reprogram the flash chips in stock |
| 15:47:13 | LinusN | ah, yes, faster boot time |
| 15:47:24 | Lynx_ | how much should the EX70 cost? |
| 15:47:27 | webguest97 | and nothing more? |
| 15:47:32 | LinusN | and even more mp3 buffer, if you run the code from flash (rombox) |
| 15:47:50 | preglow | doesn't running code from flash impair execution speed quite a bit? |
| 15:48:11 | LinusN | not that much, the flash is fast |
| 15:48:17 | amiconn | preglow: Not much, something like 10% overall |
| 15:48:21 | preglow | ahh, not more |
| 15:48:24 | LinusN | and the dram is pretty slow |
| 15:48:54 | [IDC]Dragon | t 16 bit, vs. the flash is 8 bit |
| 15:49:03 | preglow | do you know what the irivers run the code from? |
| 15:49:12 | LinusN | preglow: sdram |
| 15:49:29 | preglow | so the entire flash is copied to sdram? |
| 15:49:33 | quelsaruk | kurzhaarrocker: you can also use senheisser mx-550 earphones (i just read the log) |
| 15:49:36 | LinusN | sort of |
| 15:49:40 | preglow | damn, precious mp3 buffer :/ |
| 15:50:02 | * | kurzhaarrocker takes down a note, thx quelsaruk |
| 15:50:10 | [IDC]Dragon | preglow: the crucial code runs from IRAM |
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| 15:50:22 | preglow | how much iram does the coldfire have? |
| 15:50:28 | [IDC]Dragon | an internal, fast 32 bit memory |
| 15:50:35 | LinusN | 96k |
| 15:50:37 | kurzhaarrocker | Lynx_ I bought mine ex70 when there were no euro yet... |
| 15:50:50 | preglow | 96kwords? |
| 15:50:54 | Bagder | 96 is goodness |
| 15:50:55 | LinusN | kbytes |
| 15:51:02 | preglow | ahh, still not bad by far |
| 15:51:33 | amiconn | quelsaruk: I use Sennheiser MX-400 (predecessors of MX-550). |
| 15:51:34 | [IDC]Dragon | vs. 4 KB on Archos |
| 15:52:00 | quelsaruk | i have B&O ones, but bought MX-500 to my brother and really like how they sound :) |
| 15:52:16 | quelsaruk | and MX-550 were even better, but out of stock :/ |
| 15:52:16 | Lynx_ | kurzhaarrocker: are they still available? seem kinda hard to find... |
| 15:52:29 | * | kurzhaarrocker shrugs |
| 15:52:44 | kurzhaarrocker | As I already own them I haven't searched for them |
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| 15:56:09 | webguest97 | why isnt it possible to play wma tracks with the archos recorder 20? |
| 15:56:42 | Zagor | because it only supports mp3 |
| 15:56:57 | webguest97 | what the firmware or the hardware? |
| 15:57:00 | Zagor | hardware |
| 15:57:10 | webguest97 | hmm |
| 15:57:23 | webguest97 | isnt it possible to emulate wma? |
| 15:57:42 | Zagor | no. the hardware ONLY supports mp3. we can't even play raw sound data. |
| 15:57:56 | Bagder | and wma is evil anyway |
| 15:58:06 | Zagor | indeed |
| 15:58:19 | webguest97 | i had the creative jukebox first.. |
| 15:58:30 | quelsaruk | Inquisition will act if wma is being used in rockbox :D |
| 15:58:39 | webguest97 | there you could use many soundcodecs after a firmware update |
| 15:59:53 | webguest97 | do i have to solder if i want to disable my flashes writeprotectioN? |
| 15:59:58 | Zagor | webguest97: yes, because it did software decoding. the archos has hardware decoding. |
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| 16:00:07 | webguest97 | ok.. |
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| 16:05:21 | webguest97 | oh: The only chance then is to solder in the right chip (SST39VF020) |
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| 16:40:55 | quelsaruk | amiconn: do you use cygwin? |
| 16:43:32 | amiconn | yup |
| 16:44:14 | quelsaruk | i have a strange issue with X11 |
| 16:44:56 | quelsaruk | i start it, but not "log in"... that is, i can see only a stupid screen, where i can do nothing... |
| 16:45:26 | quelsaruk | i was able, before i re-installed O.S. and software :/ |
| 16:46:12 | quelsaruk | how do you start it, using X command? startX? or which one? |
| 16:46:33 | ripnetuk | quel - have you tried sshing in and exporting DISPLAY to 127.0.0.1:1 then running xterm or somethign? |
| 16:47:00 | quelsaruk | no ripnetuk, haven't tried :) |
| 16:47:22 | ripnetuk | does it look like x is running, but with no window manager etc? (ie can you move the mouse cursor around) |
| 16:47:36 | quelsaruk | i can move the cursor... |
| 16:47:58 | ripnetuk | sounds like you are just missing a window manager then |
| 16:48:05 | quelsaruk | yups.. |
| 16:48:10 | quelsaruk | but i don't know why... |
| 16:48:18 | quelsaruk | i'll try to re-install it again |
| 16:48:25 | ripnetuk | ususally works :) |
| 16:50:49 | amiconn | quelsaruk: If you get a window resembling an X11 screen with no window manager (dotted background) you should really consider upgrading your cygwin installation |
| 16:51:33 | quelsaruk | that's what i'm doing right now |
| 16:51:35 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 16:51:35 | amiconn | Current cygwin uses xorg-x11, which is way better on cygwin the xfree86, for quite some time now. |
| 16:51:44 | quelsaruk | thanks |
| 16:52:05 | quelsaruk | (btw, i installed cygwin again yesterday... should have xorg-x11) |
| 16:53:24 | amiconn | Did you install from the net? Even if so, you may have used an outdated mirror. |
| 16:54:20 | quelsaruk | yes, from net... i use Rediris (spanish network) |
| 16:54:31 | quelsaruk | but usually is up-to-date |
| 16:54:53 | quelsaruk | i'm re-installing X, just in case |
| 16:59:45 | quelsaruk | hmm |
| 16:59:49 | quelsaruk | i'm getting the same |
| 16:59:57 | quelsaruk | really strange, never happened this |
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| 17:00:04 | quelsaruk | so i will unistall cygwin |
| 17:00:08 | quelsaruk | and re-install... |
| 17:00:15 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 17:00:30 | quelsaruk | i have to build the cross-compiler again :( |
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| 17:06:25 | | Nick quelsaruk is now known as Quel|away (~kvirc@80.103.130.62) |
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| 17:12:17 | Quel|away | amiconn: which mirror do you use? |
| 17:16:34 | amiconn | ftp://ftp.inf.tu-dresden.de |
| 17:21:25 | ripnetuk | have u considered colinux as an alternative to cygwin? |
| 17:21:44 | ripnetuk | it provides a 'real' linux distro, which runs in a window under Windows |
| 17:24:07 | amiconn | No. Cygwin runs fine, so no reason to switch. |
| 17:24:15 | ripnetuk | ok |
| 17:24:34 | amiconn | However, I once tried installing Windows services for unix. Horrible... |
| 17:24:46 | ripnetuk | hehe never tried that |
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| 19:42:35 | Quel|away | amiconn: |
| 19:42:39 | Quel|away | now i know what happened |
| 19:42:47 | amiconn | yes? |
| 19:43:07 | Quel|away | this new xorg-x11 is really strange |
| 19:43:33 | amiconn | I think it's rather clever, as it integrates X11 into the Windows desktop |
| 19:43:52 | Quel|away | you have to run X and then i have to go to Start menu and run there xterm |
| 19:44:05 | Quel|away | maybe clever |
| 19:44:13 | Quel|away | but i'm not used to this |
| 19:44:31 | amiconn | Mostly I use it for running the X11 sim, by typing "startx ./rockboxui.exe" |
| 19:44:59 | Quel|away | :) |
| 19:45:11 | Quel|away | i'll try to learn how to use this.. |
| 19:46:18 | amiconn | The old xfree86 X11 was imho (1) a bit cumbersome, to simulate another desktop within a window. |
| 19:46:45 | amiconn | (2) Running X applications was also sometimes unstable. |
| 19:47:43 | Quel|away | i don't say it was better, but i was used to that "virtual desktop" in a window |
| 19:47:44 | amiconn | pfaedit crashed numerous times back then. With Xorg-X11 it runs stable (same binary)( |
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| 23:40:59 | amiconn | hi again |
| 23:41:14 | [IDC]Dragon | hi there |
| 23:41:31 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Did you update the player flash package on your webspace? |
| 23:41:42 | [IDC]Dragon | i see you already did the language mod |
| 23:41:50 | [IDC]Dragon | flash: yes |
| 23:42:23 | amiconn | (language mod) Actually this was fairly simple (apart from the perl part) |
| 23:42:38 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, I was surprized |
| 23:42:45 | [IDC]Dragon | sounded like more |
| 23:43:21 | amiconn | Well, simply walk the string... |
| 23:44:19 | amiconn | Btw, there are some more standard library functions that could profit from asm optimisation: strlen, strchr, ... |
| 23:44:32 | [IDC]Dragon | :-) |
| 23:45:58 | amiconn | I'm currently building voice files. Unfortunately we do have to split the voice file downloads; one set for release 2.4 and one set for current cvs. |
| 23:46:59 | [IDC]Dragon | because of deprecated strings |
| 23:47:25 | amiconn | yup. |
| 23:51:00 | amiconn | Crystal is now a bit larger than 1.5 MB. I wonder if I should go down to 12 kHz... |
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