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| 00:01:56 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Did you already try the new id3 browse categories? The browse-by-album is rather irritating for albums with multiple artists... |
| 00:02:20 | [IDC]Dragon | I tried, yes |
| 00:02:32 | [IDC]Dragon | by album doesn't help me |
| 00:02:54 | [IDC]Dragon | but maybe in case you've forgotten the artist |
| 00:03:31 | [IDC]Dragon | what happens with samplers`? |
| 00:04:19 | amiconn | If there are n different artists on the sampler, you get the same album listed n times. |
| 00:04:41 | Bagder | that's a problem |
| 00:04:42 | amiconn | Each virtual folder contains the songs of one artist on that sampler. |
| 00:04:49 | amiconn | Bagder: Why? |
| 00:04:57 | Bagder | you don't know if two artists made an album named the same thing |
| 00:05:40 | amiconn | Yeah, there is a slight chance that this happens. The ambiguity can be lowered by also considering the year (if present) |
| 00:05:43 | Bagder | of course one can make assumptions |
| 00:06:06 | Bagder | year could possibly be used |
| 00:06:14 | Bagder | but it could also make it worse, if badly set |
| 00:07:10 | amiconn | Imho the problem of accidentally showing 2 different albums as one is far less annoying than showing one album as many... |
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| 00:07:33 | Bagder | yeah, I guess it is |
| 00:07:41 | * | [IDC]Dragon is sleepy |
| 00:07:48 | [IDC]Dragon | 'night! |
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| 00:08:05 | amiconn | I have albums where I see pages and pages with the same album title :( |
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| 01:22:54 | webguest84 | ny one here |
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| 08:33:45 | dwihno | Good morning to you! |
| 08:34:17 | LinusN | morning |
| 08:40:33 | dwihno | I have a question for you... Too bad I forgot what it was all about :) |
| 08:45:24 | LinusN | then the answer is 42 |
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| 08:47:54 | dwihno | :) |
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| 09:02:07 | webguest16 | HI there |
| 09:02:17 | LinusN | hi |
| 09:02:32 | webguest16 | do u speak italian? |
| 09:02:58 | LinusN | i haven't spoke italian for many years |
| 09:03:09 | LinusN | my italian is a bit...rusty |
| 09:03:13 | webguest16 | tok |
| 09:03:15 | webguest16 | ok |
| 09:03:25 | webguest16 | then excuse me for my horrible english |
| 09:03:26 | webguest16 | ok? |
| 09:03:32 | LinusN | ok |
| 09:03:58 | webguest16 | i'm searching a opensource |
| 09:04:04 | webguest16 | firmware for my archos av120 |
| 09:04:11 | webguest16 | but i dont found it in internet |
| 09:04:21 | webguest16 | do u know if it exists? |
| 09:04:40 | LinusN | av1xx, that's the "multimedia", right? |
| 09:05:11 | webguest16 | mmmm |
| 09:05:37 | webguest16 | it shows divx xvid... |
| 09:05:54 | Zagor | there is only a linux port |
| 09:06:01 | LinusN | i know that there is work being done for the 300 seires |
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| 09:06:42 | webguest16 | me too for 300 series |
| 09:06:50 | webguest16 | but sigh, i have a 100 series |
| 09:07:01 | Zagor | hmm, i thought linav worked for 100 too. apparently not. |
| 09:07:35 | LinusN | i don't know if there is anything for the 100, sorry |
| 09:08:04 | webguest16 | i would like use a linux version for my 100 |
| 09:08:23 | webguest16 | but 100 a 300 arent very different... |
| 09:09:01 | webguest16 | Zagor |
| 09:09:04 | Zagor | they're not that different hardware-wise, are they? only display and button differs afaik |
| 09:09:22 | Zagor | ..and the cpu is a different model but same type |
| 09:09:31 | LinusN | that's what i thought too |
| 09:09:46 | webguest16 | zagro where can I find a version for 300 |
| 09:09:54 | Zagor | linav.sf.net |
| 09:09:56 | LinusN | http://linav.free.fr/ |
| 09:09:59 | webguest16 | that run on my 100? |
| 09:10:20 | Zagor | no, it's for 300 as you asked |
| 09:10:57 | webguest16 | but dont run on 100 .... |
| 09:10:58 | webguest16 | ? |
| 09:11:06 | LinusN | probably not |
| 09:11:17 | LinusN | you'd have to port it to the 100 |
| 09:11:34 | LinusN | and i have no idea if it is hard or even possible |
| 09:11:48 | webguest16 | ok |
| 09:11:50 | webguest16 | sigh |
| 09:13:48 | Zagor | oh great, now software patents have moved from being a question for the fishery ministers to be decided on an agricultural meeting. someone is very afraid of democracy |
| 09:17:00 | webguest16 | Have u seen the new archos product? |
| 09:17:04 | webguest16 | pma400 |
| 09:17:09 | webguest16 | it's very nice |
| 09:17:09 | Zagor | yes |
| 09:17:44 | Zagor | i like that they finally gave in and started using linux. |
| 09:18:09 | webguest16 | but which version is Linux Qtopia? |
| 09:20:47 | Zagor | qtopia is a window manager/graphics library |
| 09:21:02 | Zagor | it's not the linux version, it's software that run on top of linux |
| 09:22:15 | Zagor | basically, it's kde for small machines |
| 09:28:26 | webguest16 | ok thank |
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| 09:54:52 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: I noticed the Artists/Albums/Songs language entries have a voice strin, too |
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| 09:55:20 | [IDC]Dragon | are they really voiced? does that make sense? |
| 09:55:28 | Zagor | umm, yeah. that wasn't really a concious decision. :-) |
| 09:55:56 | Schnueff | moin |
| 09:56:08 | Zagor | they are not voiced |
| 09:56:13 | [IDC]Dragon | we should be careful not to have "orphans" in the voice file, space is precious there |
| 09:56:19 | Zagor | yeah |
| 09:56:56 | [IDC]Dragon | unfortunately, I don't have a good way to check this |
| 09:57:21 | [IDC]Dragon | I did it once by hand, when I introduced the feature |
| 09:57:32 | [IDC]Dragon | since then, it's incremental |
| 09:58:01 | Zagor | perhaps we do want them voiced, though... |
| 09:58:32 | [IDC]Dragon | right now, I think it doesn't make sense, imho |
| 09:58:37 | Zagor | why not? |
| 09:58:54 | [IDC]Dragon | how should we proceed down below? spell everything? |
| 09:58:59 | Zagor | yes |
| 09:59:06 | [IDC]Dragon | or build a voice database, too? |
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| 10:15:49 | Lynx_ | howdy |
| 10:16:50 | Zagor | are there any other mp3 manager programs out there that does a decent job at handling multi-artist albums? |
| 10:18:21 | Zagor | using the path as id is my best idea so far |
| 10:18:39 | Bagder | that's a pretty good idea |
| 10:18:58 | Zagor | it won't work for those people who simply shove all their files in the root, but i don't see how we can ever handle that |
| 10:19:13 | Bagder | right |
| 10:19:28 | Zagor | i count 20 "Best of" albums released in 2003... :-) |
| 10:19:36 | Bagder | hehe |
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| 10:37:26 | kurzhaarrocker | Strange that "Best of" doesn't tour when they release that many albums |
| 10:38:05 | Zagor | hehe |
| 10:40:30 | dwihno | When will there be a decision about software patents in the EU? |
| 10:45:13 | Zagor | dwihno: they're trying to force it through without debate on monday again |
| 10:45:56 | kurzhaarrocker | Is there anybody here who likes software patents? |
| 10:46:23 | Zagor | nobody likes them, apart from a handful patent lawyers |
| 10:46:52 | Zagor | in fact the disdain is so widespread, even the politicians who lobby for it won't admit to it |
| 10:47:02 | kurzhaarrocker | I'll try to patent the concept of breething |
| 10:48:06 | dwihno | I read about patents regarding CPU throttling techniques ... Seems like everybody wants to sue each and every one in the states. |
| 10:48:54 | Zagor | yes, and now they want to bring the same chaos to europe |
| 10:50:03 | dwihno | Let's just hope the decision makers won't let us down. |
| 10:51:15 | Zagor | too late. the council and commission (yes, your local ministers) are trying to force it through despite the parliament rejecting it |
| 10:52:17 | Zagor | http://kwiki.ffii.org/Fish0501En |
| 10:52:44 | Zagor | (sorry for the ot politics, but this is massively important and scary stuff) |
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| 10:55:00 | dwihno | :( |
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| 11:03:19 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: it seems to be not as bad as it looks in that short article |
| 11:04:01 | Zagor | explain |
| 11:04:23 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm reading a longer article in a german news service |
| 11:04:36 | [IDC]Dragon | (still trying to understand) |
| 11:04:49 | [IDC]Dragon | http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/55338 |
| 11:05:00 | [IDC]Dragon | for you germans out there |
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| 11:08:40 | Zagor | the council is violating their own rules in order to rush through a decision in a meeting for a completely different issue, hoping those who attend won't be briefed in time. i guess it *could* be worse, but i'm not sure how. |
| 11:10:41 | [IDC]Dragon | if i read it correct, the latest version of the agreement in question doesn't make software patentable |
| 11:10:57 | Zagor | yes it does |
| 11:12:10 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm no expert |
| 11:13:04 | [IDC]Dragon | the FFII is pledging our agricuture minister to take it off the agenda |
| 11:13:06 | Zagor | it is written to give the impression of opposing sw patents, yet it explicitly avoids to set rules that would limit them. when called on it, the authors refuse to change anything. |
| 11:13:49 | [IDC]Dragon | she's from our "green party", who are opposing software patents |
| 11:13:50 | Zagor | as i said before, no politician dares say they promote sw patents. everyone says they oppose them. yet some do not act like they say. |
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| 11:14:03 | El_Barto2 | Hi! |
| 11:14:22 | [IDC]Dragon | and one voice is enought to take it off the agenda |
| 11:14:24 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: sounds good. lets hope she does it. |
| 11:14:26 | El_Barto2 | can i charge my jukebox recorder 20 over my usb port?! |
| 11:14:46 | [IDC]Dragon | no |
| 11:14:57 | El_Barto2 | why not? |
| 11:15:12 | [IDC]Dragon | there's no hardware which does it |
| 11:15:15 | kurzhaarrocker | Ask archos, they designed it |
| 11:15:34 | El_Barto2 | hmm |
| 11:15:44 | [IDC]Dragon | it'll need a higher voltage than the 5V found on USB |
| 11:15:46 | El_Barto2 | they forgot much things ;) |
| 11:15:54 | El_Barto2 | 9v right? |
| 11:16:24 | [IDC]Dragon | at least something that's higher than the fully charged cells |
| 11:17:02 | kurzhaarrocker | Well even if they made a charging circuit for usb it would be very slow as usb doesn't provide much current. |
| 11:17:11 | El_Barto2 | hmm |
| 11:17:24 | El_Barto2 | and what is about a software decoder? |
| 11:17:38 | El_Barto2 | whould it run fast enough to encode wma and so on? |
| 11:17:42 | kurzhaarrocker | no |
| 11:18:01 | El_Barto2 | not enough cpu? |
| 11:18:03 | [IDC]Dragon | please save us these no-do questions |
| 11:18:41 | kurzhaarrocker | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NoDo |
| 11:19:34 | El_Barto2 | ah...cool ;) |
| 11:19:37 | El_Barto2 | thx |
| 11:20:25 | Zagor | the song table in the tag database should probably contain track number too |
| 11:20:54 | Zagor | we display them in the correct order already, but without numbers it's not as obvious |
| 11:21:22 | El_Barto2 | other question wich isnt in the nodo list ;) |
| 11:21:29 | [IDC]Dragon | I especially liked the lack of numbers |
| 11:21:43 | Zagor | option time ;) |
| 11:21:43 | El_Barto2 | can i play an instrumental and record my voice over it? |
| 11:21:56 | El_Barto2 | with my archos recorder.. |
| 11:22:06 | [IDC]Dragon | normally, my names are so cluttered |
| 11:22:28 | [IDC]Dragon | El_Barto2: no |
| 11:22:53 | El_Barto2 | only negative answers :( |
| 11:23:04 | [IDC]Dragon | unless you use 2 boxes |
| 11:23:19 | El_Barto2 | is it cause it doesnt support multitasking? |
| 11:23:24 | [IDC]Dragon | the chip can either decode or encode |
| 11:23:56 | [IDC]Dragon | the mp3 chip, that is |
| 11:25:11 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: minimum clutter was to decorate them with track numbers, for proper sorting |
| 11:25:44 | [IDC]Dragon | the database saves this screen estate |
| 11:28:17 | [IDC]Dragon | Joerch just gave instructions to reproduce the address errors |
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| 11:40:46 | El_Barto2 | ok...thx for your help |
| 11:40:47 | El_Barto2 | bye! |
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| 11:42:13 | amiconn | Zagor: I also got the stuck-in-directory bug twice with 2005-01-19 cvs build. Just it doesn't happen always, like before your 01-18 fixes. |
| 11:42:31 | amiconn | This was after a resumed playlist ended normally. |
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| 11:59:50 | [IDC]Dragon | the forum already has discussions about the Rockbox features on the H3xx |
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| 12:00:41 | [IDC]Dragon | it should have a better image viewer, better USB on the go, etc. |
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| 12:14:34 | crash_ | maybe someone should post thats some time to go before it's even possible to play songs on the h1xx |
| 12:37:25 | Zagor | they know |
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| 13:45:54 | LinusN | B4gder is l33t |
| 13:46:04 | B4gder | I am soooo k3wl |
| 13:46:13 | B4gder | :-) |
| 13:49:24 | B4gder | redhat drives me nuts |
| 13:49:33 | B4gder | everyone should use debian |
| 13:50:39 | crash_ | gentoo is also cool ;) |
| 13:50:56 | B4gder | yes, if you wanna spend your life watching the computer compile |
| 13:51:33 | LinusN | no, just set up a compile farm first...with gentoo... |
| 13:51:57 | crash_ | it's not that bad, for the big packages there are binaries |
| 13:52:10 | crash_ | like openfoffice, thunderbird, mozilla an so on |
| 13:52:32 | B4gder | I talked to a person who said "its not that bad, I installed my 2Ghz system in less than 30 hours" |
| 13:52:38 | B4gder | 30 |
| 13:52:40 | B4gder | hours |
| 13:52:43 | crash_ | lol |
| 13:52:49 | crash_ | he must have done something wrong |
| 13:52:55 | crash_ | this can be done in 18 ;) |
| 13:52:56 | B4gder | he compiled a lot |
| 13:53:27 | crash_ | seriously, portage is the main point why i use gentoo |
| 13:53:47 | crash_ | would there be more binarie pakcges i would use them instead of compiling stuff |
| 13:53:49 | crash_ | brb |
| 13:54:27 | Zagor | crash_: so why are you not using debian? all packages are precomiled there |
| 13:55:11 | B4gder | want to get a feel for redhat ES3? |
| 13:55:20 | B4gder | error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 13:55:48 | Zagor | wow, that feels so.... 90s ;) |
| 13:56:03 | B4gder | it hurts my head |
| 13:56:37 | Zagor | you have my condoleances |
| 13:57:22 | Zagor | sometimes i think redhat is one reason why linux isn't being used more by non-geeks |
| 13:57:45 | Zagor | "switch from dll hell to rpm hell? no thanks, better the devil you know" |
| 13:59:20 | B4gder | linux rookies tend to install many different distros |
| 13:59:52 | B4gder | in fact, hanging out in the swedish linux "förenings" IRC channgel, most of them do nothign but install different distros |
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| 14:00:09 | Zagor | indeed, but also many people/companies try "the best" first: Red Hat Very Expensive Edition |
| 14:00:15 | B4gder | yes |
| 14:00:23 | B4gder | especially companies I guess |
| 14:00:32 | B4gder | like this case I'm in front of... |
| 14:00:42 | crash_ | Zagor: i had installed debian once, and always had the feeling that i dont can install bleeding edge packages cause they are not available |
| 14:01:02 | B4gder | I find debian faster than gentoo |
| 14:01:15 | Zagor | crash_: you were probably using the wrong version. unstable is what you want. |
| 14:01:22 | B4gder | (based on curl) |
| 14:01:30 | Zagor | debian comes in three flavors: stable, testing and unstable. |
| 14:01:47 | crash_ | Zagor: i know, but got this information after i was familar with gentoo |
| 14:01:53 | crash_ | and dont have any problems since install |
| 14:01:56 | crash_ | why should i change |
| 14:02:01 | crash_ | i'm very glad with it |
| 14:02:02 | crash_ | := |
| 14:02:15 | crash_ | and after all, the compiling stuff doenst bother me |
| 14:02:22 | Zagor | :-) |
| 14:02:26 | ashridah | Zagor: unstable generally doesn't follow beta stuff and newly released stuff as much as gentoo would. |
| 14:02:38 | crash_ | and by the way i' |
| 14:02:52 | Zagor | ashridah: i disagree, but we don't need to take that here :) |
| 14:02:54 | crash_ | m using linux since sept 04 so cant really speak of experience ;) |
| 14:03:22 | crash_ | why not, lets push the irc log to unknown sices, it never has been before *g* |
| 14:03:59 | Zagor | 2002-08-28: 197KB |
| 14:04:24 | crash_ | i think thats easy to reach ;) |
| 14:04:25 | Zagor | today so far: 20KB :) |
| 14:04:46 | crash_ | ok would be hard today, so what about starting this disucssion at 0:01 ;) |
| 14:04:50 | crash_ | no seriously |
| 14:04:52 | Zagor | hehe |
| 14:05:16 | crash_ | if someone is glad with his sys, why wanna push him |
| 14:05:27 | crash_ | after all it's linux, the smarter decission |
| 14:05:36 | crash_ | decision |
| 14:05:49 | Zagor | i don't mean to push, i was just curious |
| 14:06:35 | crash_ | but there are many out there trying to push people instead of just letting them do their stuff |
| 14:06:52 | Zagor | yeah, just ignore them |
| 14:07:07 | crash_ | maybe sometime showing them the freedom of choice will be more effective |
| 14:07:10 | crash_ | ;) |
| 14:07:34 | Zagor | ...sure, like putting out a fire with gasoline :) |
| 14:07:43 | crash_ | hrhr |
| 14:07:51 | ashridah | Zagor: hey, that works if you use enough. |
| 14:07:59 | Zagor | true :) |
| 14:08:05 | ashridah | it's mostly the fumes that burn. |
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| 14:16:59 | Spida | can anybody tell me abit about the state of the iriver ihp 140 and h340 support? |
| 14:17:23 | Zagor | Spida: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort |
| 14:18:56 | Spida | which variants of iriver hardware does the port support? |
| 14:19:02 | B4gder | h1xx |
| 14:19:17 | B4gder | the 3xx is pretty similar, but not identical |
| 14:20:36 | B4gder | btw, one week to fame |
| 14:20:40 | B4gder | :-) |
| 14:20:47 | B4gder | M3 issue #1 2005 |
| 14:21:49 | LinusN | i believe it's out already, to the subscribers |
| 14:21:58 | B4gder | aha |
| 14:22:03 | B4gder | their site said 27th |
| 14:22:23 | Spida | B4gder: is support for the 3xx planned? |
| 14:22:49 | B4gder | I don't know if "planned" is the word, but we hope to have that, yes |
| 14:23:00 | B4gder | it depends on the 3xx owners |
| 14:23:09 | crash_ | here here here ! *jump* |
| 14:23:10 | crash_ | *bounce* |
| 14:23:11 | crash_ | ;) |
| 14:23:37 | crash_ | i think Zagor was the one that told me to start c, so i can help |
| 14:23:53 | Zagor | are you done yet? ;) |
| 14:23:59 | crash_ | :/ |
| 14:24:07 | B4gder | hehe |
| 14:24:08 | crash_ | it looks all so complex |
| 14:24:20 | crash_ | and rockbox isnt really the simplest thing to start c with |
| 14:24:21 | Zagor | i've seen these books. "learn C in 24 hours". you mean they don't work? |
| 14:24:29 | Zagor | crash_: true |
| 14:24:47 | crash_ | i'm not a person that can learn coding by reading a book |
| 14:24:57 | B4gder | but Rockbox is a tiny little world, its not that complex like huge operating systems can be... :-) |
| 14:25:20 | crash_ | unfortunatly i havent codet a operating system either |
| 14:25:23 | crash_ | *g* |
| 14:25:34 | B4gder | not yet |
| 14:25:35 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 14:25:46 | LinusN | crash_: what programming languages do you know? |
| 14:25:50 | Zagor | our "Error accessing playlist control file" is a pretty lousy error message. it's displayed for 10 different error cases... |
| 14:26:17 | LinusN | "general user fault" |
| 14:26:26 | * | Zagor tries to make the id3 browser play |
| 14:26:56 | crash_ | LinusN: some time ago i codet c++ mfc, today mainly php / perl |
| 14:27:05 | crash_ | and some bash ;) |
| 14:28:10 | crash_ | someone here told me to start with the etch-a-skethc plugin to learn how rockbox works |
| 14:30:46 | LinusN | c is pretty easy, i'd say the main work is to get the whole picture, how c is used in rockbox |
| 14:30:58 | B4gder | re re reboot |
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| 14:31:51 | LinusN | it's more about understanding the hardware and the rockbox structure than understanding the c language |
| 14:32:37 | crash_ | maybe, but there is no electronic feeling in me |
| 14:33:03 | crash_ | i canceld to study "nachrichtentechnik" after 2 semester |
| 14:33:40 | crash_ | it's a kind of study of electricty but mainly in low voltage regions, hope it quite clear what i mean |
| 14:34:04 | crash_ | for example i would like to implement a new kind of shuffle mode in rockbox |
| 14:34:12 | LinusN | tell me |
| 14:34:23 | crash_ | cause i dont think the shuffle mode right now is really shuffle |
| 14:34:37 | crash_ | if you have lets say 20 albums on your disk |
| 14:34:56 | crash_ | my experience is that always the same artists are played together |
| 14:35:21 | LinusN | which rockbox version is this? |
| 14:35:40 | Zagor | crash_: in that case it's a bug. however i've never seen that. |
| 14:35:51 | crash_ | this is from beginning i used rockbox till now, the latest on my archos was 2.4 |
| 14:36:15 | crash_ | i have the feeling this dependend on the random function in rockbox |
| 14:36:16 | LinusN | i fixed a bug in the random generator |
| 14:36:19 | LinusN | in 2.4 |
| 14:36:20 | crash_ | when ? |
| 14:36:32 | LinusN | in 2.4 |
| 14:36:37 | crash_ | so this must have been gone by using 2.4 ? |
| 14:36:41 | LinusN | should be |
| 14:36:54 | LinusN | unless you found another bug |
| 14:36:55 | crash_ | can u describe how this bug showed up? |
| 14:36:58 | crash_ | hrhr |
| 14:37:01 | crash_ | no idea |
| 14:37:07 | LinusN | it gave a very bad distribution |
| 14:37:08 | Zagor | in reality it shouldn't be visible before 2.4 either. only very fringe cases. |
| 14:37:38 | LinusN | Zagor: there were in fact two bugs |
| 14:37:46 | crash_ | my exgirlfriend also always told that there are always the same artists |
| 14:38:39 | LinusN | in any case, if the shuffle isn't good enough, i suggest we fix that instead of introducing some new shuffle mode |
| 14:39:25 | LinusN | but i suggest you give 2.4 a try, and see if it is any better |
| 14:40:45 | Zagor | i suggest you make a short playlist, then play it shuffled and write down each song. several times. we need hard data to work. |
| 14:40:56 | Zagor | with |
| 14:41:48 | crash_ | yeah sure |
| 14:41:49 | LinusN | i still believe that 2.4 is good enough, a lot better than the previous versions |
| 14:41:56 | crash_ | but at the moment i only have my h320 |
| 14:42:09 | crash_ | i dont have used 2.4 that long i think |
| 14:42:21 | crash_ | so i cant really say if there is the same behavior |
| 14:42:28 | LinusN | ok |
| 14:43:51 | crash_ | my shufle mode would have been, to shuffle the playlist and a small remember function |
| 14:44:08 | crash_ | so that there would be the last 5 songs in it to assure |
| 14:44:22 | crash_ | that at least the last 5 artists are differrent |
| 14:44:30 | Zagor | that's not shuffle |
| 14:44:35 | crash_ | artists in the sence of albums/folders on hadrddrive |
| 14:44:56 | crash_ | in addiotion to the normal shuffle |
| 14:45:00 | Zagor | also that's pretty hairy to do with 10000 songs in your playlist |
| 14:45:07 | LinusN | so you want to fix a bad random shuffle by making it less random? |
| 14:45:35 | crash_ | just to assure, there arent played the same artists within a given number of sings |
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| 14:45:48 | crash_ | i know this is quite hard to realise |
| 14:45:58 | LinusN | and what if the playlist only contains 3 atrists? |
| 14:46:10 | crash_ | must be failsafe ;) |
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| 14:46:30 | Zagor | crash_: it's probably a better idea to make a shuffler plugin instead, to make preshuffled playlists any way you like'em |
| 14:47:04 | Zagor | the builtin shuffle will likely stay "pure shuffle" |
| 14:47:10 | crash_ | LinusN: just to make it clear, when the random mode in 2.4 is more random than the behavior i have experienced before my shuffle mode extension (;)) wouldnt be necessary |
| 14:47:22 | crash_ | this was only something spinning around in my head |
| 14:48:11 | crash_ | maybe, i'll put up the sim, and give it the same directory structe as my h320 and try if it plays more randomly |
| 14:48:31 | crash_ | but thats a quite boring job to do ;) cause there doesnt come sound from the sim *g* |
| 14:49:10 | Zagor | you can just skip next,next,next. |
| 14:51:49 | crash_ | i know, came in my mind after i had writte itn ;) |
| 14:52:04 | crash_ | must try if i can use the sim over ssh -X |
| 14:52:15 | crash_ | could try from work; |
| 14:52:58 | Zagor | it works, i do that all the time. |
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| 15:09:36 | crash_ | ah perfect, so i'll give it a try |
| 15:09:41 | crash_ | another reason for linux |
| 15:13:54 | [IDC]Dragon | our company has plans to disable USB mass storage on our PCs |
| 15:14:35 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: and cd's? |
| 15:14:51 | [IDC]Dragon | they don't have writers |
| 15:15:16 | ashridah | [IDC]Dragon: :(. |
| 15:15:22 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: your company is neurotic... |
| 15:15:56 | [IDC]Dragon | for a reason, yes |
| 15:16:09 | ashridah | the win2k pcs at the CS department at my uni haven't disabled those yet. very handy (although i only leech from the university's mirrors to keep down the possibility of being noticed) |
| 15:16:24 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: how would you disable usb mass storage anyway, block the ports or through software? |
| 15:16:48 | [IDC]Dragon | I've seen that somewhere else, must be a policy setting |
| 15:17:10 | ashridah | Lynx_: policy, or just kill the driver and don't give the users enough rights to reinstall them |
| 15:17:22 | Lynx_ | [IDC]Dragon: what does you company make? |
| 15:17:23 | ashridah | the policy is a bit broken, since it tends to clobber a lot more than usb storage |
| 15:18:26 | [IDC]Dragon | we make "IP cores", mostly for SOCs |
| 15:18:39 | [IDC]Dragon | in plain english, parts of chips |
| 15:19:19 | Lynx_ | ashridah: my uni is not that restrictive, i doubt anyone can connect my ip to my name ;) |
| 15:20:41 | ashridah | we've got NDS covering most of the uni (except the cs department's logins, which are built up a different way), sadly, it's hard to not get noticed :( |
| 15:21:38 | Lynx_ | ashridah: what's NDS? |
| 15:21:53 | ashridah | novell directory services |
| 15:22:10 | Lynx_ | ah |
| 15:22:34 | ashridah | basically single login across the entire uni, including email services, for staff, students and service personelle |
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| 15:32:41 | crash_ | i have a problem with my x forwarding :/ |
| 15:32:55 | crash_ | it's enabled in my sshd but it cant be opened from here |
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| 15:46:34 | El_Barto2 | Hi |
| 15:46:39 | LinusN | hi |
| 15:46:54 | El_Barto2 | can i change my harddisk of the archos recorder 20 ? |
| 15:47:23 | dwihno | yes you can! |
| 15:47:28 | El_Barto2 | wow |
| 15:47:40 | El_Barto2 | the first positive answer :) |
| 15:47:47 | El_Barto2 | do you have a tut for it? |
| 15:48:46 | dwihno | nah |
| 15:48:54 | dwihno | but it's easy |
| 15:49:05 | dwihno | unscrew using a torx scredriver |
| 15:49:12 | dwihno | apply some force to the bumpers and presto! |
| 15:49:32 | LinusN | El_Barto2: check the documentation page on the rockbox site |
| 15:49:40 | El_Barto2 | ok thx |
| 15:50:00 | LinusN | the "external links" section, at the bottom of the page |
| 15:52:08 | El_Barto2 | and where can i find the tool to convert avi files in rvf? |
| 15:52:19 | El_Barto2 | thx for the links...so far;) |
| 15:55:09 | elinenbe | what is the importance of M3 issue #1 2005? |
| 15:56:01 | LinusN | just an interview with Daniel, Björn and me |
| 15:56:41 | elinenbe | also, Zagor, the id3 browser will list the same album many times. Let's say I browse to albums... then there will be 12 of "St. Peppers' Lonely Heart's Club Band" |
| 15:56:45 | elinenbe | each with one song. |
| 15:56:54 | elinenbe | is M3 an international magazine? |
| 15:57:00 | LinusN | nope |
| 15:58:38 | Zagor | elinenbe: yes it will, since the artists are different |
| 15:58:59 | [IDC]Dragon | M3 issue #1 2005?? |
| 15:59:43 | elinenbe | Zagor, but the artist is the same... |
| 15:59:48 | elinenbe | "The Beatles" |
| 15:59:52 | LinusN | Zagor: different artists? i thought beatles made all of the songs on that album |
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| 16:00:02 | Zagor | elinenbe: have you verified that |
| 16:00:03 | Zagor | ? |
| 16:00:20 | Zagor | LinusN: id3 tags has nothing to do with reality... |
| 16:00:24 | [IDC]Dragon | what's M3? what are you talking about? |
| 16:00:39 | LinusN | a swedish magazine |
| 16:01:14 | [IDC]Dragon | about swinger clubs, or what? |
| 16:01:23 | LinusN | yes, of course |
| 16:01:49 | LinusN | about electronic gadgets |
| 16:02:19 | [IDC]Dragon | sounds interesting |
| 16:02:28 | [IDC]Dragon | online? |
| 16:02:48 | LinusN | only selected articles |
| 16:03:50 | Zagor | it's not a very good magazine, actually |
| 16:04:16 | [IDC]Dragon | 11/04 is the latest I see |
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| 17:03:53 | El_Barto2 | do you know where i can get the GUI Video Conversion Tool? |
| 17:04:14 | El_Barto2 | http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/66978/RockVideoRelease.zip <-this link is down |
| 17:04:37 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I just found how to disable USB mass storage. It's rather easy, just setting a registry entry. However, I don't get why someone wants to do this... |
| 17:05:48 | [IDC]Dragon | hi Jens |
| 17:06:29 | [IDC]Dragon | sombody wants that to prevent employees walking away with a "project backup" |
| 17:07:57 | amiconn | Imho, this is a question of trust. And anyway, if someone really wants to get such data out, there are numerous other ways. |
| 17:08:08 | Zagor | El_Barto2: sorry, don't have it myself |
| 17:08:13 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, don't tell me |
| 17:08:17 | El_Barto2 | hmm |
| 17:08:33 | El_Barto2 | or an example videofile? |
| 17:08:34 | amiconn | Like: CD/DVD burners, floppy drives, eMail, HTTP upload... |
| 17:08:59 | [IDC]Dragon | El_Barto2: use the tools from my site |
| 17:09:22 | [IDC]Dragon | and look into the RVF wiki page |
| 17:09:30 | El_Barto2 | ok |
| 17:09:32 | El_Barto2 | thx |
| 17:09:41 | El_Barto2 | perfect support here ;) |
| 17:10:04 | [IDC]Dragon | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VideoTutorial |
| 17:10:33 | [IDC]Dragon | there are links to video clips at the bottom |
| 17:11:12 | El_Barto2 | ah ;) |
| 17:12:21 | El_Barto2 | super! |
| 17:12:24 | El_Barto2 | thx a lot# |
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| 17:36:51 | [IDC]Dragon | yeah, the ID broser can play! |
| 17:37:03 | Zagor | yup |
| 17:37:39 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe there's a useful spinoff for my CD changer emu, too |
| 17:37:54 | Zagor | ah |
| 17:37:55 | [IDC]Dragon | right now it doesn't change |
| 17:38:16 | [IDC]Dragon | disks, that is, it only can change tracks |
| 17:38:52 | [IDC]Dragon | I'd need a way to create/modify the internal playlist from a plugin |
| 17:39:10 | [IDC]Dragon | haven't looked into it yet |
| 17:39:29 | Zagor | amiconn talked about that yesterday |
| 17:39:40 | Zagor | he sounded interested in looking at it |
| 17:39:45 | * | [IDC]Dragon looks |
| 17:40:08 | Zagor | oh, sorry. i meant creating the id3 database with a plugin. |
| 17:40:20 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
| 17:40:50 | [IDC]Dragon | plugin or external application, that could share some code |
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| 20:40:04 | preglow | wassup, all |
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| 21:18:17 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: r u there? |
| 21:20:19 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 21:20:50 | amiconn | I found a problem with your voicefont tool :( |
| 21:21:34 | [IDC]Dragon | fix it :) |
| 21:22:01 | amiconn | It only works correctly if all id: fields in the processed .lang file are in the same order as in english.lang |
| 21:22:30 | amiconn | Otherwise some voice clips will be swapped. |
| 21:23:03 | [IDC]Dragon | no good, indeed |
| 21:25:27 | amiconn | Both uplang and binlang use english.lang in addition to the selected language as the master for id order to solve this. |
| 21:25:33 | [IDC]Dragon | so it would have to read the english file, too |
| 21:26:53 | amiconn | I came across this for 2 reasons: (1) For my new default string handling, I needed to adapt one of these little perl scripts. |
| 21:27:55 | amiconn | (2) I'm currently thinking about how to implement dynamic display of free & total disk space. This will cause some deprecated strings. |
| 21:28:14 | amiconn | (both LANG strings and VOICE strings) |
| 21:28:20 | [IDC]Dragon | for the GB? |
| 21:28:36 | amiconn | Not only. |
| 21:29:18 | amiconn | (1) Currently, GB and MB are voice only strings. This needs to be changed into LANG strings with voice. |
| 21:29:35 | amiconn | Same goes for the decimal point. |
| 21:30:28 | amiconn | (2) The format strings used for the actual display ("Free: %d.%02dMB", same for total) need to be replaced. |
| 21:31:13 | amiconn | In order to be backwards compatible, I cannot simply replace the old IDs for the latter. |
| 21:33:07 | [IDC]Dragon | I understand, yes |
| 21:34:26 | amiconn | Re fixing the tool: This is C++, however it looks like no C++ features are used. Did I overlook something? |
| 21:35:58 | [IDC]Dragon | it's just named cpp by default |
| 21:36:27 | [IDC]Dragon | I see some declarations mixed in the code |
| 21:38:00 | [IDC]Dragon | somebody more skilled with perl that I am could do it in perl, too |
| 21:38:11 | amiconn | This is also perfectly legal with newer C compilers (C99 standard??). That was the reason for the red Win32 simulator builds I caused, btw. |
| 21:39:08 | amiconn | Cygwin GCC didn't complain, but the cross compiler on the site did (It's an oldish gcc 2.6 iirc)9 |
| 21:39:22 | amiconn | gcc 2.96 even. |
| 21:39:57 | [IDC]Dragon | MSVC also woudn't like it |
| 21:43:14 | amiconn | Another thing to consider for the free/total space display. The Ondio can have more than 1 volume. How should we handle this? Simply add the values? |
| 21:43:38 | [IDC]Dragon | I've thought about that, too |
| 21:43:48 | [IDC]Dragon | adding sounds dumb |
| 21:44:03 | [IDC]Dragon | a 2nd entry would be better |
| 21:49:02 | amiconn | Yes of course. 2 entries will need more room, but that's not the main prob. If we also want this voiced (I think we do), the labels ("internal", "MMC") need to be voiced too. |
| 21:49:33 | [IDC]Dragon | never ending maintenance... |
| 21:50:08 | [IDC]Dragon | and a voice dictionary inflation |
| 21:50:59 | [IDC]Dragon | but those words are short |
| 21:59:11 | crash_ | can somebody tell me if its save to make a symlink for "archos" dir for the sim |
| 21:59:19 | crash_ | dont wanna make copies to test with |
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| 22:00:25 | amiconn | It is. |
| 22:01:17 | amiconn | Just avoid executing "make install" after creating the symlink, otherwise you'll clutter the destination with simulator plugins etc. |
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| 22:01:49 | crash_ | ok thanks |
| 22:02:32 | crash_ | want to the random function where i had the feeling of having found a bug |
| 22:03:21 | [IDC]Dragon | is there any reason why the plasma plugin is not in the official build? |
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| 22:04:04 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Nothing serious, apart from that it unnecessarily uses floating point. |
| 22:04:29 | [IDC]Dragon | uhh |
| 22:05:01 | crash_ | what means "writing sector xx" in console while useing the sim? |
| 22:05:31 | amiconn | This is the config sector, simulated as a little file. |
| 22:06:02 | amiconn | You will only ever observe sector 3D (decimal 61) |
| 22:06:12 | crash_ | yep right |
| 22:06:56 | amiconn | On a real box, the config sector is stored on the harddisk, outside the partition area. |
| 22:09:12 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: The floating point usage in the plasma plugin is not a big problem though. It is working fast enough for the plugin. The fp libs get linked to the plugin, that's why the binary is rather large (given the source code size) |
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| 22:10:36 | [IDC]Dragon | it should be coupled to the music, somehow |
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| 22:26:11 | amiconn | Hi jyp |
| 22:34:08 | jyp | hey |
| 22:38:57 | amiconn | I have a question. You added (or rather submitted) a new source file that implements memcpy() and memset(), because there are no asm optimized versions for calmrisc yet. |
| 22:39:12 | jyp | true |
| 22:39:40 | amiconn | However, before the asm optimized versions we already had memcpy() and memset() in C. These files are still in the attic. |
| 22:40:05 | amiconn | I would suggest to revive these, instead of a differently named file. |
| 22:40:12 | jyp | good idead |
| 22:41:20 | amiconn | I'm thinking about this because I'll probably do asm optimized versions of strchr() and strlen() too. The selection which one to use (*.S / *.c) is simple with the SOURCES file. |
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| 22:42:56 | webguest02 | hi |
| 22:43:11 | webguest02 | have a big prob with my jukebox recorder |
| 22:44:17 | webguest02 | it doesnt start |
| 22:44:43 | webguest02 | it hangs |
| 22:45:25 | webguest02 | and the drive doesnt spin up |
| 22:46:25 | webguest02 | i think i damaged it... |
| 22:47:10 | webguest02 | i plug in a voltage adapter with the wrong polarisation |
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| 22:47:35 | webguest02 | after that it smells strange |
| 22:47:40 | webguest02 | what could happen? |
| 22:47:53 | webguest02 | first it runs normal |
| 22:48:26 | webguest02 | and maybe 12 hours later it doesnt start |
| 22:49:08 | preglow | haha |
| 22:49:09 | webguest02 | and have this problems.. |
| 22:50:01 | webguest02 | the left led blinks |
| 22:50:22 | webguest02 | red.. |
| 22:51:24 | webguest02 | anyone an idea? |
| 22:51:56 | jyp | not me |
| 22:52:51 | [IDC]Dragon | it is deeply discharged, I'd say |
| 22:53:11 | [IDC]Dragon | and your charging circuit is probably fried |
| 22:53:40 | webguest02 | so maybe i damaged something with the wrong polarisation |
| 22:54:04 | [IDC]Dragon | I think so, yes |
| 22:54:13 | webguest02 | fuck |
| 22:54:20 | [IDC]Dragon | the other people who "tried" did... |
| 22:54:57 | webguest02 | and would i get a new one? |
| 22:55:23 | [IDC]Dragon | "one"? |
| 22:55:32 | webguest02 | the player is 3 days old! |
| 22:55:38 | webguest02 | and i have warranty |
| 22:55:47 | [IDC]Dragon | you can try |
| 22:56:14 | webguest02 | but there is rockbox and illegal music on my harddrive! |
| 22:56:15 | | Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so cool") |
| 22:56:24 | [IDC]Dragon | perhaps they discover the misuse, maybe not |
| 22:56:29 | jyp | rofl |
| 22:56:34 | jyp | sorry :) |
| 22:56:46 | webguest02 | illegal music isnt the prob |
| 22:56:49 | webguest02 | but rockbox |
| 22:56:50 | [IDC]Dragon | is it a V1 recorder? |
| 22:56:56 | webguest02 | yes |
| 22:57:09 | [IDC]Dragon | then you can take out the cells and charge them |
| 22:57:40 | webguest02 | but i want that my player charge the batteries ;) |
| 22:57:57 | [IDC]Dragon | to wipe the disk, I mean |
| 22:58:03 | webguest02 | ah ;) |
| 22:58:05 | webguest02 | ok ;) |
| 22:58:27 | webguest02 | but there is a warranty sticker over a screw! |
| 22:58:57 | [IDC]Dragon | you don't need to unscrew anything for the batteries |
| 22:59:20 | [IDC]Dragon | just take the side caps off |
| 22:59:26 | webguest02 | ah ;) |
| 22:59:28 | webguest02 | cool |
| 22:59:41 | webguest02 | and how should i clean the disk? |
| 22:59:49 | [IDC]Dragon | there's a little notch in the center which may lock it a bit |
| 22:59:56 | webguest02 | with diskdump` |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:51 | webguest02 | ? |
| 23:00:56 | webguest02 | or normal format? |
| 23:01:07 | [IDC]Dragon | gently press that center part outwards, then pull up |
| 23:01:27 | [IDC]Dragon | format or just file deletion |
| 23:03:24 | webguest02 | ok |
| 23:03:48 | jyp | I'd like to start committing some stuff tonight |
| 23:04:00 | jyp | first lcd driver |
| 23:04:11 | [IDC]Dragon | ok |
| 23:04:13 | Bagder | jyp: keep an eye on http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 23:04:24 | webguest02 | but why doesnt the player start if i have only the power suply?! |
| 23:04:40 | Bagder | after commits, that is |
| 23:04:46 | [IDC]Dragon | webguest02: it's too weak |
| 23:04:57 | [IDC]Dragon | just a charger, not a power supply |
| 23:05:42 | jyp | Bagder: ok, thanks |
| 23:05:54 | webguest02 | stupid.. |
| 23:06:16 | webguest02 | have problems to take out the batteries :( |
| 23:07:06 | webguest02 | ah |
| 23:07:06 | webguest02 | ah ;) |
| 23:07:13 | webguest02 | have it.. |
| 23:08:14 | [IDC]Dragon | Bagder: what's the situation on a daily Gmini build? |
| 23:08:47 | Bagder | I haven't had a go at the gcc/binutils yet |
| 23:09:29 | jyp | I'm currently bringing the calmrisc binutils port to the most recent version |
| 23:09:31 | amiconn | jyp: I'd like to know the functions (or function assignments) of the gmini buttons. I'm also interested in the lcd resolution, and in a front view (photo or preferably scanned) for adding this to the Win32 sims. |
| 23:10:19 | Bagder | lcd size is in the config-*.h already, I think |
| 23:10:20 | jyp | I think the assignments are in button.h already |
| 23:10:31 | jyp | yup |
| 23:10:37 | jyp | 128*64 iirc |
| 23:11:14 | jyp | I don't have any camera nor scanner |
| 23:11:34 | webguest02 | maybe i only damaged the batteries? |
| 23:11:40 | webguest02 | what do you think? |
| 23:12:09 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't think so, but test it |
| 23:12:30 | jyp | amiconn: but there are plenty photographs on donat.org... Maybe on will suit you ? |
| 23:13:21 | jyp | There are still routing problems with the site though |
| 23:14:13 | amiconn | I still can't reach it from home. I remember it works from work though... |
| 23:15:37 | jyp | I had those pics taken ... |
| 23:15:40 | jyp | https://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=127835&ssid=5208 |
| 23:15:53 | jyp | but I'm afraid they might not be good enough |
| 23:20:41 | amiconn | jyp: (photo) If there is nothing better, maybe I can polish it a bit. It doesn't need to be perfect. |
| 23:21:26 | amiconn | (buttons) The button codes are indeed there, but I need the physical assignment too, i.e. which button in the pic is which |
| 23:21:46 | jyp | It is suitable to tell you over irc ? |
| 23:23:03 | amiconn | Also, from looking at the pic, I think the gmini has 10 buttons, but there are only 6 codes. Am I wrong that the bottom right arrangement is up/right and left/down, with play in the centre? |
| 23:23:24 | jyp | Right |
| 23:24:07 | jyp | There are only 8 buttons though |
| 23:24:12 | amiconn | Ah, I forgot; LEFT and RIGHT are global. Still 2 buttons missing. |
| 23:24:51 | amiconn | Oh, better count more thoroughly ;) |
| 23:27:34 | amiconn | So the only "uncertain" (for me) buttons are ON, MENU and CANCEL. |
| 23:28:08 | jyp | Oh yes ... |
| 23:28:16 | jyp | On the right: |
| 23:28:23 | jyp | top is "ON" |
| 23:28:28 | jyp | below in cancel |
| 23:28:36 | jyp | menu is the big on the left |
| 23:29:25 | amiconn | Ah ok. Good to know. |
| 23:31:00 | Bagder | jyp: don't check for CPU, check for LCD |
| 23:31:03 | Bagder | in the LCD code |
| 23:31:25 | jyp | I guess I overthought it ... |
| 23:31:55 | jyp | My last opinon was that if you mount a recorder lcd on the gmini board |
| 23:32:24 | jyp | one would check the cpu for accessing the ports |
| 23:32:38 | amiconn | jyp: your root dir listing pic is suitable imho. Good front view, no shadows (unlike the other one) |
| 23:32:56 | jyp | There's the led flare |
| 23:33:19 | Bagder | jyp: you're also not following the ident level |
| 23:33:26 | jyp | omg |
| 23:34:00 | * | Bagder is a whiner ;-) |
| 23:34:41 | jyp | Ok I corrtect that right away |
| 23:36:14 | amiconn | There are no real front view pics on donat.org |
| 23:36:24 | jyp | While I'm at it ... do you prefer a check on the LCD type or CPU ? |
| 23:36:53 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Your commit message is a bit strange... |
| 23:36:54 | Bagder | I have no strong opinion |
| 23:37:05 | jyp | amiconn, I ask starth if he can take a front view snapshot |
| 23:37:19 | amiconn | Okay. |
| 23:37:53 | jyp | Whoops, |
| 23:38:01 | jyp | i forgot he torn his device apart |
| 23:39:46 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: saw that, yes, I fixed a typo and it got all messed up |
| 23:40:19 | webguest02 | its definitly my player :(( |
| 23:40:29 | webguest02 | i try to send it back tommorow |
| 23:40:30 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Did you check whether these are the only unused entries? |
| 23:42:26 | amiconn | Now I need to rebuild the voices files again ;( |
| 23:44:59 | jyp | I'm getting "Using deprecated info format strings. Convert your scripts to use |
| 23:45:00 | jyp | the new argument format and remove '1's from your info file format strings. |
| 23:45:08 | jyp | upon commit |
| 23:45:15 | amiconn | Just ignore this. |
| 23:45:23 | amiconn | Bagder told me... |
| 23:45:23 | jyp | alright |
| 23:45:28 | Bagder | we all get that |
| 23:45:38 | amiconn | Most likely a server config thingy |
| 23:45:42 | Bagder | yeps |
| 23:46:00 | Bagder | its about the format of one of the server-side config files |
| 23:47:37 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: (unused entries) I hope these are the only ones, unless somebody else in the past made entries which are infact not part of the voice UI |
| 23:47:54 | [IDC]Dragon | in the very beginning, I checked them all |
| 23:48:36 | | Join quelsaruk [0] (~kvirc@80.103.134.158) |
| 23:48:37 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 23:48:40 | [IDC]Dragon | you don't have to redo the voice files right now |
| 23:49:34 | amiconn | It's not difficult for me. Just throw the new .lang files in the dir, run cscript MakeVoices.vbs, and zip them. |
| 23:49:41 | quelsaruk | hmmm... was english.lang file changed yesterday? |
| 23:50:26 | amiconn | yes, iirc |
| 23:50:41 | quelsaruk | :/ |
| 23:50:54 | quelsaruk | so i must update spanish |
| 23:50:56 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 23:53:06 | jyp | Ok, ata.c is ready to be committed ... |
| 23:53:50 | amiconn | quelsaruk: If you update, please conserve the unix-style linefeeds... |
| 23:53:52 | Bagder | Linus is gonna love that ;-) |
| 23:53:56 | jyp | There are a lot of "syntactic changes" |
| 23:54:04 | quelsaruk | amiconn: i forgot to check that, sorry |
| 23:54:08 | Bagder | jyp: what does that mean? |
| 23:54:33 | quelsaruk | normally i run a perl script to get rid of all nasty windoze chars |
| 23:54:39 | jyp | Bagder, Setting a register isn't as simple as REG = VALUE |
| 23:54:54 | amiconn | quelsaruk: Use a decent editor ;) |
| 23:55:00 | jyp | so I had to change all these into SET_REG(value) |
| 23:55:09 | Bagder | aha |
| 23:55:10 | jyp | and define macros |
| 23:55:11 | quelsaruk | amiconn: like? |
| 23:55:30 | Bagder | jyp: just asking, since I know Linus mentioned he has changed ata.c as well |
| 23:56:12 | amiconn | I'm using ConText (www.context.cx) Small, fast, flexible, and freeware. |
| 23:56:29 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 23:56:32 | quelsaruk | i'll check |
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