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| 06:47:18 | Trevmar | OK, found it in the WIKI |
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| 08:27:44 | joewo | hi |
| 08:28:26 | joewo | i have the archos recorder 20 gig and installed the rockbox os |
| 08:28:55 | joewo | is it now possibe to play sound files other than mp3? |
| 08:30:26 | midk | no |
| 08:31:18 | joewo | ok thanks for the information |
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| 10:41:20 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, Microsoft is coordinating Creative, iRiver, Dell, Samsung and Archos |
| 10:41:48 | [IDC]Dragon | to install PlaysForSure against Apple |
| 10:42:40 | [IDC]Dragon | we'll have the choice of two evil |
| 10:43:14 | Zagor | yup |
| 10:43:20 | Zagor | or rockbox ;) |
| 10:44:17 | [IDC]Dragon | insignificant, as of now |
| 10:44:44 | Zagor | only if you want to buy drm-crippled content |
| 10:48:21 | Zagor | and that was always the case - nothing has changed |
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| 13:25:04 | Bagder | jyp: you considering providing any tarballs of the binutils/gcc package soon? |
| 13:32:42 | Bagder | that cvs server on SF crawls |
| 13:32:54 | Bagder | sloooooow |
| 13:34:36 | jyp | Uh... |
| 13:35:17 | Bagder | I figured I should setup a gmini build for the cvs build table |
| 13:35:45 | jyp | I didn't took in account the CVS slowness |
| 13:36:10 | Bagder | I can understand that |
| 13:36:14 | Bagder | I'm a bit surprised myself |
| 13:36:26 | jyp | I guess I can provide diff rather easily |
| 13:36:33 | Bagder | currently it checks out like one file every 1-4 seconds |
| 13:36:36 | jyp | ... can be automated |
| 13:37:31 | jyp | I thought doing a mere "cvs update" would be easier for users than applying a diff each time |
| 13:37:40 | Zagor | amazing they still have such performance problems |
| 13:37:55 | Bagder | jyp: true |
| 13:38:22 | jyp | The problem is that uploading files on SF. can't be automated |
| 13:38:36 | Bagder | right |
| 13:38:50 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 13:38:50 | * | Bagder remembers why we no longer do that much on SF |
| 13:40:00 | jyp | I could put the diff on my personal homepage; but that doesn't seem appropriate |
| 13:40:54 | Bagder | I think full tarballs is better for the users who want these packages |
| 13:41:10 | jyp | Btw... That's cool to setup an automated build for gmini, Bagder ;) |
| 13:41:44 | Bagder | yeps |
| 13:41:47 | Bagder | it'll be good |
| 13:41:59 | Bagder | the table is gonna get pretty wide... :-) |
| 13:42:13 | jyp | I can understand they prefer the full thing... |
| 13:42:57 | jyp | let me think about it ;) |
| 13:43:27 | Bagder | well, if you make a script that builds a full package, I can run it in a crontab job on the rockbox server |
| 13:44:01 | jyp | great |
| 13:44:50 | jyp | The script is rather trivial... |
| 13:45:04 | jyp | I was concerned for the bandwidth on my side |
| 13:45:38 | jyp | basically cvs export -D now; tar |
| 13:46:12 | Bagder | I'd prefer to run the script 'cvs update; ./tarball' |
| 13:46:19 | Bagder | so it should ignore CVS dirs |
| 13:46:46 | jyp | yup; better ;) |
| 13:47:05 | Bagder | BTW, the rockbox site sends off ~700MB/day on average |
| 13:47:16 | Bagder | ~2000 unique hosts/day |
| 13:47:36 | jyp | Wow |
| 13:47:57 | jyp | That's called popularity i guess ;) |
| 13:48:42 | Bagder | yes! |
| 13:49:46 | Zagor | if you are worried about bandwith, you may want to use the coral caching system: http://wiki.coralcdn.org/wiki.php/Main/FAQ |
| 13:50:28 | Bagder | still checking out... |
| 13:50:57 | jyp | argh |
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| 13:54:32 | Bagder | g'day LinusN |
| 13:54:43 | LinusN | jyp: i've committed the iriver ata driver port, could you test with the gmini to check that i didn't break anything? |
| 13:54:45 | * | jyp bows |
| 13:54:46 | LinusN | hi Bagder |
| 13:55:00 | jyp | LinusN: my pleasure |
| 13:56:05 | [IDC]Dragon | hi LinusN, well again? |
| 13:56:11 | LinusN | nope |
| 13:56:17 | [IDC]Dragon | :-( |
| 13:57:25 | * | jyp casts 'complete healing' on LinusN |
| 13:57:29 | jyp | well ;) |
| 13:57:36 | jyp | I can try ) |
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| 14:00:20 | amiconn | hi LinusN :) |
| 14:01:58 | amiconn | LinusN: Download of mmc dump complete? |
| 14:09:07 | [IDC]Dragon | jyp: is you gcc port based on the koreans, or did you do it yourself? |
| 14:09:43 | jyp | If koreans means Samsung, then yes |
| 14:09:58 | [IDC]Dragon | that university project |
| 14:10:03 | jyp | it passed through redhat's hands in the meantime |
| 14:10:20 | [IDC]Dragon | and then you got it? |
| 14:10:34 | jyp | yes |
| 14:10:51 | jyp | I'm still unsure if we talk about the same source |
| 14:11:04 | jyp | (though I've never header of another gcc for calmrisc) |
| 14:11:12 | jyp | header/heard |
| 14:11:25 | [IDC]Dragon | some korean university had a project, perhaps with Samsung |
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| 14:13:54 | jyp | iirc Samsung owns Korea... ;) |
| 14:13:59 | jyp | so that must be it |
| 14:14:26 | [IDC]Dragon | did you have to work on it then, or can just use it? |
| 14:14:41 | jyp | I had to work on it |
| 14:14:59 | jyp | First because it was based on 2.97... |
| 14:15:13 | jyp | The Worst Of All gcc version |
| 14:15:19 | [IDC]Dragon | and now? |
| 14:15:22 | jyp | 3.4 |
| 14:15:35 | jyp | then I fixed a handful of bugs |
| 14:15:49 | jyp | the result is far from perfect but usable |
| 14:18:58 | [IDC]Dragon | what's you approach for mp3 playback? use the object code from Archos? |
| 14:19:14 | jyp | well no |
| 14:19:22 | jyp | since that would violate their copyright |
| 14:19:41 | jyp | (virtually impossible to extract it automatically) |
| 14:20:04 | jyp | then we'll rewrite stuff |
| 14:20:20 | Bagder | the Gmini and iRiver ports both need that code |
| 14:20:34 | jyp | btw... Is wav (or similar format) playback supported in rockbox as it stands ? |
| 14:20:36 | [IDC]Dragon | but not for a strange DSP... |
| 14:20:53 | Zagor | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxAudioAPIProposal |
| 14:21:20 | Bagder | [IDC]Dragon: it'll still be the same design I guess |
| 14:21:40 | Zagor | only the codec plugins differ with different hardware |
| 14:21:42 | jyp | definitely ... |
| 14:22:04 | jyp | Only the inner loops will be different I hope |
| 14:22:06 | [IDC]Dragon | I meant the codec |
| 14:22:13 | LinusN | amiconn: mmcdump downloaded ok |
| 14:25:12 | Zagor | jyp: no, none of the new audio code has been written yet |
| 14:26:01 | jyp | ok |
| 14:27:34 | Bagder | still checking out... |
| 14:27:40 | jyp | omg |
| 14:27:56 | jyp | I remembered checking in was long... |
| 14:28:14 | jyp | But I thought co would be faster |
| 14:32:11 | Bagder | maybe SF just hates me |
| 14:32:13 | Bagder | :-) |
| 14:33:05 | jyp | Maybe they need to tune their business model |
| 14:33:57 | amiconn | LinusN: So you could mirror it for [IDC]Dragon et al to grab... |
| 14:34:05 | LinusN | yup, hang on |
| 14:38:43 | LinusN | http://linus.haxx.se/mmc_dump.zip |
| 14:38:55 | jyp | Bagder, how about this: |
| 14:38:58 | jyp | find binutils-2.15 -depth -print0 -not -name "CVS" | tar −−null −−files-from=- -cjf binutils-2.15-calmrisc16-DATE.tar.bz2 |
| 14:39:35 | jyp | or even ... binutils-2.15-calmrisc16-`date +"%y%m%d"`.tar.bz2 |
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| 14:39:47 | Digital007 | afternon |
| 14:40:01 | jyp | hi |
| 14:40:31 | Digital007 | hi |
| 14:40:36 | Digital007 | What does code policing mean? |
| 14:40:44 | LinusN | :-) |
| 14:40:51 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: will download it in the evening |
| 14:41:07 | LinusN | Digital007: enforcing the Rockbox coding style |
| 14:41:21 | Digital007 | ok |
| 14:41:27 | Digital007 | my new earphones turned up today |
| 14:42:55 | Zagor | gotta go |
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| 14:55:04 | Pieter_ | hi |
| 14:55:45 | Pieter_ | i modified rockbox so that when holding the mode button on an ondio when inserting a USB cable will not do anything, so you can use USB just for power... |
| 14:56:08 | Pieter_ | any interest in that? it's kind of useful, i think |
| 14:58:38 | LinusN | it's useful for the FM recorder as well |
| 14:59:13 | Pieter_ | ah.. then i think i might have to write a few extra lines to make it work for more than just the ondio :) |
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| 15:06:05 | Pieter_ | which button should be held on the recorder fm then? |
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| 15:07:50 | Pieter_ | cause i only have an ondio fm, wouldn't know what would be useful on such a device |
| 15:14:40 | LinusN | Pieter_: submit the patch to the patch tracker, and then we'll find a nice key for the other devices |
| 15:16:49 | Pieter_ | ah, ok.. i might have done things not very neatly, i haven't changed thins on rockbox before |
| 15:18:10 | [IDC]Dragon | I was rather thinking about an exit USB mode key... |
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| 15:19:17 | Pieter_ | hmm, internet connection is being annoying.. i'll just submit it then :) |
| 15:20:24 | [IDC]Dragon | Pieter_: did you get my comment? |
| 15:20:39 | [IDC]Dragon | [15:18] <[IDC]Dragon> I was rather thinking about an exit USB mode key... |
| 15:21:00 | Pieter_ | no, i didn't.. that might be better indeed |
| 15:21:18 | Pieter_ | now when recording (at least from the radio) it also does not enter USB mode, it seems |
| 15:21:23 | Pieter_ | (before my patch, that is) |
| 15:21:27 | Pieter_ | (after as well) |
| 15:21:48 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, that may be on purpose |
| 15:23:00 | [IDC]Dragon | btw, radio screen: I was thinking about swapping the rocording on Mode and presets in the menu |
| 15:23:34 | Pieter_ | so you don't record when pressing mode, but get the presets? |
| 15:23:54 | Pieter_ | might be nice, now when you record and want to change a setting it starts a new recording |
| 15:27:37 | Pieter_ | oh well, i'll just not submit it and go make a USB mode exit button :) |
| 15:28:30 | LinusN | i think an exit button is a lot more inconvenient for the user |
| 15:28:56 | LinusN | especially if the user inserts the usb to charge a depleted cell |
| 15:29:10 | LinusN | then it tries to enter usb mode and fails because the battery is too low |
| 15:29:31 | LinusN | the (windows) pc gets upset because the usb device disappears |
| 15:29:58 | LinusN | even if the usb mode succeeds, the user has to "safely unplug" the usb drive before exiting usb mode |
| 15:30:09 | LinusN | only to charge the battery... |
| 15:30:12 | Pieter_ | hmm, it would also be nice if i can start rockbox from usb power, without batteries, now it starts the original firmware automatically |
| 15:30:22 | Pieter_ | but i don't know if that's possible |
| 15:30:26 | Pieter_ | without flashing the firmware, that is |
| 15:30:30 | LinusN | it is, if you flash rockbox |
| 15:31:02 | LinusN | it can't be done without flashing |
| 15:31:11 | Pieter_ | yeah, thought so already |
| 15:32:30 | Pieter_ | usb mode exit would work well if you use a USB plug with only power, no computer attached to it... |
| 15:32:44 | Pieter_ | (like my usb hub without a computer seems to do) |
| 15:34:01 | Pieter_ | but i know nothing about usb, or rockbox, or the archos units, can it detect if that is the case and just not enter USB mode at all? |
| 15:34:24 | LinusN | rockbox doesn't see the difference |
| 15:36:02 | Pieter_ | ah, i see.. then perhaps the 'do nothing when the mode button is held and the usb cable is inserted' might be the best option |
| 15:36:27 | LinusN | i think so |
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| 15:36:48 | LinusN | another idea: a "enter usb mode?" question |
| 15:36:59 | LinusN | (optional, of course) |
| 15:38:04 | Pieter_ | perhaps with a (very short) explanation why you would not want to do that? |
| 15:39:07 | LinusN | the question? |
| 15:39:37 | Pieter_ | yes, so people using it won't frown their eyebrows and ask themselves 'i inserted the cable, why wouldn't i want to?' |
| 15:40:09 | LinusN | yes |
| 15:40:28 | LinusN | but the option would be off by default |
| 15:40:42 | LinusN | and you don't enable it unless you need to |
| 15:40:58 | Pieter_ | sounds even better |
| 15:41:13 | Pieter_ | (i'd have to look around in the code a bit more to be able to write that :)) |
| 15:42:07 | LinusN | have fun |
| 15:45:04 | Pieter_ | oh, and a battery-type option would be nice, to be able to use the battery meter with rechargeable nimh batteries |
| 15:45:32 | Pieter_ | now the ondio stops working when the thing is at 40% or so |
| 15:46:01 | LinusN | you'd like to have it show 0% instead? |
| 15:47:07 | Pieter_ | yes, and 100% when the batteries are fully recharged.. but it's just a cosmetic flaw i guess :) |
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| 16:05:14 | jyp | LinusN, I now get ATA panic -32 ... |
| 16:05:41 | jyp | reverting to the old ata.c version doesn't fix the problem |
| 16:06:15 | jyp | Maybe there's another place to look at ? |
| 16:06:31 | jyp | I guess not, but who knows |
| 16:06:54 | LinusN | jyp: interesting |
| 16:07:49 | jyp | I still have random crashes at the start |
| 16:08:09 | jyp | so I guess there's something fundamental I don't understand |
| 16:10:47 | LinusN | badness |
| 16:12:19 | jyp | I'm going to try w/o interrupts |
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| 16:20:36 | jyp | no better |
| 16:20:38 | Bagder | cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server |
| 16:20:54 | Bagder | the cvs server is now kaputt |
| 16:21:10 | Bagder | oh well, I'll continue later on |
| 16:21:23 | jyp | I got this message too |
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| 16:21:33 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 16:21:48 | jyp | and it turned out that the cvs update completed |
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| 16:26:58 | Pieter_ | ah, free disk space on the ondio should be in MB if it's less than a certain value, let's see :) |
| 16:27:13 | Pieter_ | on all models if it's less than a certain value i guess |
| 16:27:16 | amiconn | Pieter_: As it happens, I now have NiMHs for my Ondio too, so I think I'm going to implement a battery type option. |
| 16:27:41 | amiconn | Same goes for the size display. This is high priority... |
| 16:28:38 | Pieter_ | i'll do the size thing |
| 16:29:03 | amiconn | The size thing is a bit complex, since it needs to be properly voiced. |
| 16:29:32 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm back from afk |
| 16:29:55 | [IDC]Dragon | the GB needs to be split out in all .lang files |
| 16:29:56 | quelsaruk | amiconn: talking about voices... do you have south-american spanish SAPI5 voice? |
| 16:30:21 | amiconn | Nope. Only us english & german. |
| 16:30:23 | [IDC]Dragon | no, only western-greenland mandarin |
| 16:30:42 | Pieter_ | ah, i see... |
| 16:30:51 | quelsaruk | hmmm |
| 16:30:56 | quelsaruk | what a pity |
| 16:30:57 | quelsaruk | :d |
| 16:31:03 | quelsaruk | :D |
| 16:31:20 | [IDC]Dragon | feel free to step up to a mic |
| 16:31:43 | [IDC]Dragon | and bring out your south-american spanish timbre |
| 16:32:18 | quelsaruk | hehehe, i don't want to create a new confict between spain and south-american countries ;) |
| 16:36:01 | amiconn | Pieter_: I want to make the size display completely dynamic, with 3 significat digits. I.e. display something like 74.1 GB, 3.58 GB, 231 MB, 45.8 MB etc. |
| 16:43:47 | Pieter_ | sounds like a good idea indeed.. Now for my own use i've made it report it in MB (but it still says GB) |
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| 16:57:36 | Pieter_ | hmm, rockbox can enter usb mode even if the cable is not being inserted (but already has been inserted before) |
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| 17:10:58 | muz | has linus had any time to work on the bootloader yet? |
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| 17:48:01 | Pieter_ | hmm, when having the usb cable inserted but not in usb mode, in the playback screen thing, by pressing the mode button on my ondio several times i can go into usb mode again.. any idea where to look for this? It's not the USB thread by itself, it shouldn't be able to do that now |
| 17:49:44 | [IDC]Dragon | the button driver probably signals another insertion |
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| 17:59:43 | Pieter_ | think it's the wps screen showing or the filetree exiting.. i'll find out later, have to go now |
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| 22:52:36 | Bagder | cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sourceforge.net |
| 22:53:04 | jyp | wtf |
| 22:53:53 | jyp | Can you use your sourceforge account to get it via ssh ? |
| 22:54:05 | jyp | I think ssh method works better |
| 22:54:44 | Bagder | but I can't do that if I'm not a regged developer of your project, can I? |
| 22:55:06 | jyp | I'm adding you right away |
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| 22:57:26 | amiconn | Bagder, Zagor: Is there a reason why the X11 simulator does not use a button queue? The Win32 simulator does, as well as the target of course. |
| 22:57:42 | Bagder | no reason |
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| 23:00:04 | jyp | Bagder, you're in. |
| 23:00:21 | Bagder | and I'm checking out |
| 23:00:37 | Bagder | thanks |
| 23:00:42 | amiconn | Hmm. I found that there are some places that empty the queue with "while (button_get(false));". These places could be changed to button_clear_queue(), but I don't know whether this will adversely effect the X11 sim. The X11 sim provides button_clear_queue(), but as do-nothing. |
| 23:00:53 | jyp | my pleasure ;) |
| 23:01:25 | Zagor | amiconn: it shouldn't affect it at all, since the while loop will never run more than one lap |
| 23:04:01 | amiconn | ...if there are no events in the system's button queue, yes. |
| 23:04:25 | amiconn | But if there are some, the while(...); thing will empty the system's button queue, while button_clear_queue(); will not. |
| 23:05:53 | amiconn | Hmm. Perhaps button_clear_queue() should perform the while(...); loop for the X11 sim? |
| 23:08:06 | Zagor | no. any difference in function is unintentional and should not be kept. |
| 23:11:49 | amiconn | So how to handle this then? Adding the while() loop to the X11 sim's button_clear_queue() would give the same effect as on the target, but only with the system's button queue. The X11 simulator doesn't have an own queue. |
| 23:12:23 | amiconn | Adding one would require more X11 programming knowledge than I have. |
| 23:13:22 | Zagor | aha, ok. then I'm fine with changing the X11 button_clear_queue. |
| 23:13:24 | amiconn | How to deal with events in X11? In the Win32 sim, pressing a button generates an event, and the button event handler is called. I don't know how to do this in X11 |
| 23:16:19 | Zagor | afaik that's possible in x11 too. but i'm not very skilled in x11 programming either. |
| 23:20:04 | Bagder | jyp: 'make install' in binutils fails |
| 23:20:12 | jyp | Damn |
| 23:20:23 | Bagder | make -k install seems to install pretty much |
| 23:20:30 | Bagder | possibly enough |
| 23:20:43 | jyp | What error do you get ? |
| 23:21:21 | Bagder | ../../../../gmini-binutils-2.15/binutils/doc/binutils.texi:5: @include `config.texi': No such file or directory. |
| 23:21:37 | Bagder | ../../../../gmini-binutils-2.15/binutils/doc/binutils.texi:99: warning: undefined flag: VERSION. |
| 23:21:42 | Bagder | makeinfo: Removing output file `../../../../gmini-binutils-2.15/binutils/doc/binutils.info' due to errors; use −−force to preserve. |
| 23:21:45 | jyp | I got a couple at install to but last time i tryied they didn't seem to showup... Must have missed something |
| 23:22:10 | Bagder | I'll continue and see how it works |
| 23:22:29 | jyp | That just skipped info... |
| 23:22:35 | jyp | so it should work |
| 23:22:41 | Bagder | yes, and who needs docs? ;-] |
| 23:23:12 | jyp | Well It's not as if I put something about calmrisc in it ;) |
| 23:24:59 | jyp | I'll try to fix this tomorrow... Probably a nasty bug in the makefile... Installing info hasnothing to do with my changes. |
| 23:26:12 | Bagder | if nothing else, we could just mention it on the wiki page |
| 23:27:17 | jyp | I'll have a quick look at it ... |
| 23:27:40 | jyp | if nothing is found we'll go for the easy workaround |
| 23:33:55 | Bagder | uh |
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| 23:34:01 | Bagder | /tmp/ccATuXFg.s: Assembler messages: |
| 23:34:01 | Bagder | /tmp/ccATuXFg.s:7: Error: bad instruction `ld a8,#100662988' |
| 23:34:25 | Bagder | (and a bunch more) |
| 23:34:45 | jyp | compiling a source that's for the SH |
| 23:34:46 | Bagder | compiling debug.c |
| 23:35:02 | Bagder | ok, good test for the build table then! ;-) |
| 23:35:11 | jyp | Ok, kept debug.c pending |
| 23:35:53 | jyp | cause there's the specific debugging code for our emulator in it |
| 23:36:09 | jyp | (the empty emu_debug you asked about) |
| 23:36:38 | amiconn | This looks like a compiler bug to me... |
| 23:37:09 | jyp | Actually the compiler should check that addr are no longer than 22 bits |
| 23:37:28 | jyp | but that is not well supported in gcc |
| 23:38:30 | jyp | last time I tryed to define pointer length to 22 made it crash |
| 23:40:01 | Bagder | now we only need to trigger a rebuild |
| 23:40:12 | Bagder | any commits pending? ;-) |
| 23:40:18 | amiconn | Just wait some mins... |
| 23:49:16 | Bagder | now, this will be interesting |
| 23:49:26 | Bagder | in... 11 minutes |
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