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01:23:00 | HCl | anyone ever attempted an gameboy emulator for rockbox? |
01:23:42 | preglow | you might as well forget it for the archos players |
01:24:08 | HCl | yea, i was more of thinking about the iriver |
01:24:32 | preglow | might be possible, but would require a pretty well optimized emulator |
01:24:40 | preglow | but i think not |
01:24:53 | HCl | meh |
01:24:58 | HCl | dynarec goes a long way usually |
01:25:05 | HCl | i dunno. |
01:25:15 | preglow | hmm, yeah, but i don't think any of the existing emulators support that |
01:25:33 | preglow | it's pretty much overkill for a gameboy unless you're running on a relatively slow cpu |
01:25:57 | HCl | i guess. i'll still want to look into it though |
01:26:35 | Quelsaruk | hehe |
01:26:50 | preglow | the gameboy has a z80 clocked at a few mhz |
01:26:56 | Quelsaruk | i think that was the first april's fool joke |
01:26:58 | preglow | so it might be doable |
01:27:01 | Quelsaruk | :) |
01:27:16 | preglow | but hell yes, i would love it |
01:27:23 | preglow | playing zelda on the bus on my rockbox enabled h120 |
01:27:24 | preglow | heh |
01:27:26 | HCl | i have at least some experience with dynarec.. so.. hm. |
01:27:32 | HCl | *nods* |
01:27:37 | HCl | my thoughts exactly. |
01:27:45 | HCl | i doubt it'll have cpu power left to play mp3 though |
01:27:51 | HCl | but i dunno |
01:27:58 | preglow | no problem, need to listen to the lovely square wave music in the game anyway |
01:28:12 | HCl | i'll look into it once the bootloader is stable enough for me to write some test software.. |
01:28:32 | preglow | would be really, really neat |
01:28:34 | preglow | i love emulators |
01:29:27 | HCl | does anyone know how much ram the iriver has? |
01:29:37 | HCl | cause.. emulators aren't exactly small memory wise |
01:29:47 | preglow | 32 meg |
01:29:49 | HCl | ohhh |
01:29:51 | preglow | more than enough |
01:29:53 | HCl | thats plenty |
01:30:03 | HCl | i was thinking 16mb at least |
01:30:09 | preglow | a couple of megs will probably vanish for the os, but that's still more than enough for an emulator |
01:30:29 | HCl | well, you need to load the gameboy rom into ram, not entirely sure how big those are... |
01:30:33 | HCl | then you need to load the emulator |
01:30:36 | preglow | not very big |
01:30:40 | HCl | and then you need room for the dynarec created code |
01:31:02 | preglow | but will that handle self modifying code gracefully? |
01:31:09 | preglow | hell, we're talking rom, it doesn't have that |
01:31:09 | preglow | hahah |
01:31:12 | preglow | ignore me |
01:31:22 | HCl | actually, some roms have self modifying code |
01:31:30 | HCl | you need to keep account of it in dynarec with a dirty block bit |
01:31:46 | preglow | nice |
01:32:01 | HCl | but so far i only did an n64 emulator and dosbox |
01:32:10 | preglow | i love dosbox |
01:32:13 | HCl | yea |
01:32:25 | HCl | i was into the development for dosbox for the xbox a bit.. |
01:32:26 | preglow | especially now that i can run old dos only demos on it |
01:32:36 | HCl | for some reason the dynarec core crashes completely on it |
01:32:48 | HCl | up to the point where it crashes the debug kernel of the xbox itself |
01:32:54 | preglow | haha |
01:32:55 | preglow | not bad |
01:33:24 | HCl | ah well |
01:33:26 | HCl | *afks to make food* |
01:33:27 | HCl | anyways |
01:33:35 | HCl | compared to an n64, gameboy should be easyish |
01:33:38 | HCl | i hope |
01:33:39 | HCl | >.> |
01:33:40 | HCl | afk. |
01:33:42 | preglow | well, it should |
01:33:45 | preglow | the cpu part, at least |
01:33:48 | preglow | the z80 is pretty simple |
01:34:59 | HCl | mmm. |
01:35:18 | HCl | i guess gba would be too heavy for it >.o |
01:37:50 | preglow | that it probably would |
01:38:01 | HCl | ah well |
01:38:36 | HCl | i haven't finished the 3 zeldas for gameboy anyways.. and i believe gameboy color is backwards compatible with gameboy.. |
01:38:48 | preglow | i've finished a couple of them |
01:38:52 | preglow | but it's _really_ long ago |
01:39:02 | HCl | *nods* |
01:39:06 | preglow | around the time they were new |
01:40:51 | preglow | but i need to log off so i can get some coding done |
01:40:54 | preglow | see you around |
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01:42:40 | HCl | bye |
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02:00:27 | HCl | hm |
02:00:54 | HCl | gest seems like an interesting candidate for a possible gameboy emu.. gnuboy too.. |
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02:33:40 | Quelsaruk | sleeping time |
02:33:41 | Quelsaruk | :) |
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09:26:17 | Lynx_ | Hmm, i still get the mailinglist membership reminder twice, has been found out why that is? |
09:26:32 | Bagder | nopes |
09:26:42 | Bagder | I don't think anyone has tried very hard |
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09:30:45 | LinusN | Lynx_: are the two reminders *identical*? |
09:31:06 | midk | i got it only once |
09:33:54 | rasher | I got two identical ones |
09:35:15 | rasher | looks like some greylisting deal |
09:35:40 | rasher | the first one I got has this: |
09:35:46 | rasher | X-Greylist: delayed 00:30:08 by SQLgrey-1.4.2 |
09:35:57 | Bagder | ! |
09:36:06 | rasher | the next, 1 second later |
09:36:07 | rasher | X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.2 |
09:37:31 | rasher | I'm not sure what to make of that |
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09:42:15 | ripnetUK | preglow - as a metric, the 6600 smartphone can emulate the gameboy, and it has about 100mhz arm |
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09:45:31 | Lynx_ | LinusN: yes, they are identical except the message id |
09:45:56 | rasher | Lynx_: do you get the same greylisting message? |
09:45:58 | Lynx_ | rasher: i dont have an x-greylist field |
09:46:01 | rasher | alright |
09:46:05 | LinusN | seems like we're not the only ones with this problem |
09:46:11 | rasher | guess it has nothing to do with that then |
09:46:15 | LinusN | looks like it's a mailman issue |
09:47:20 | Lynx_ | rasher: i guess you got two mails too, and when the first made it through you mailserver moved it to the whitelist |
09:48:18 | rasher | ah |
09:48:25 | rasher | that makes sense :) |
09:54:05 | LinusN | Lynx_: which lists are you subscribed to? |
09:55:12 | Lynx_ | just rockbox@... |
09:55:19 | LinusN | ok |
09:55:27 | LinusN | (there went my thepry...) |
09:55:33 | LinusN | theory |
09:55:44 | Lynx_ | i asked in #mailman, no answer yet though |
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10:15:47 | Lynx_ | I seem to have a piece of dirt/dust under the display glass of my recorder, is this easy to remove? |
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10:17:53 | LinusN | yes, unscrew the 4 screws on the top and bottom and lift off the cover |
10:18:09 | LinusN | if it's a v1 recorder that is |
10:27:48 | Lynx_ | it is, thx |
10:28:21 | Lynx_ | you mean the screws on the sides? to i have to take off the bumpers? |
10:29:27 | LinusN | no, the tiny black screws on the short ends |
10:29:55 | Lynx_ | ah, ok |
10:30:10 | LinusN | there are two on each side of the usb connector, and two on the opposite side |
10:30:47 | LinusN | tip: hold the jukebox upside down when you lift off the cover |
10:30:52 | LinusN | the keys are loose |
10:31:28 | LinusN | removing the batteries also helps |
10:31:45 | Lynx_ | hmm, i can't find a small screwdriver here anyway, will have to wait until i get home |
10:31:55 | LinusN | good luck |
10:36:44 | Lynx_ | interesting, when i try to take the lower right bumper off my jukebox turns on ;) |
10:37:40 | LinusN | that's a symptom of loose battery connectors |
10:37:59 | LinusN | it looses connection and regains it, starting the jukebox in the process |
10:38:18 | LinusN | loses |
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10:51:56 | Lynx_ | LinusN: found a screwdriver, operation completed successfully :) Pessured air in a can is nice for dusting |
10:54:06 | LinusN | nice |
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10:58:54 | amiconn | hi |
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11:00:18 | * | amiconn also gets the mailing list reminder twice |
11:15:23 | * | LinusN too |
11:19:42 | Zagor | i don't |
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11:21:50 | Quelsaruk | morning |
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11:55:50 | |Quelsar| | hi |
11:56:07 | |Quelsar| | can anyone kick quelsaruk away? :) |
11:57:35 | ashridah | if you've got your nick registered with nickserv you can ghost it off the network |
11:57:51 | |Quelsar| | does this net have ghots? |
11:57:55 | |Quelsar| | *ghost |
11:57:57 | |Quelsar| | hmm |
11:57:57 | ashridah | yep |
11:58:05 | ashridah | /msg nickserv ghost nickname pasword |
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11:58:19 | |Quelsar| | :) |
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11:58:31 | Quelsaruk | thanks |
11:59:24 | ashridah | np |
11:59:46 | ashridah | kicks don't really do the trick anyway, you'd have to get an op to kill the dead client |
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12:00:05 | ashridah | ircop i mean |
12:02:23 | Quelsaruk | but as i didn't have the nick in other channels |
12:02:31 | Quelsaruk | it crashes too |
12:02:53 | Quelsaruk | at least in other networks |
12:04:21 | Quelsaruk | amiconn: i suppose you are not around here... |
12:05:43 | ashridah | Quelsaruk: other networks tend to be more agressive at pinging clients than freenode is. clients tend to hang around here long after they ping timeout on other networks if they get cut off :/ |
12:05:55 | Quelsaruk | yeah |
12:05:58 | Quelsaruk | that's true |
12:05:59 | Quelsaruk | :) |
12:08:11 | amiconn | I am here |
12:08:46 | Quelsaruk | great |
12:08:47 | Quelsaruk | :) |
12:09:15 | Quelsaruk | do you remember what we talked about LANG_PLAYINDICES_PLAYLIST? |
12:09:43 | amiconn | yup |
12:12:20 | Quelsaruk | i searched english.lang and found no deprecated ID which could be before Playlist |
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12:12:40 | Eodun | hi all |
12:13:27 | Quelsaruk | that means that it was an error then when adding some new code. that person did not realize that LANG_PLAYINDICES_PLAYLIST was part of a 2-lines text string |
12:13:31 | Quelsaruk | hi Eodun |
12:13:51 | Eodun | talking about the langs? there's a sync error I think |
12:14:23 | Quelsaruk | as in english.lang that ID really means Playlist, he used that ID instead of creating a new one (logical) |
12:14:56 | Quelsaruk | a sync error? |
12:15:23 | Eodun | ehm... |
12:15:39 | Eodun | i mean, not even english.lang matches the real menus in my player |
12:15:46 | Quelsaruk | ohh |
12:15:48 | Eodun | talking about lastest daily build |
12:15:52 | Quelsaruk | hmm |
12:16:13 | amiconn | Quelsaruk: (LANG_PLAYINDICES_PLAYLIST) You are right. This is used correctly in playlist.c, and used wrong twice (!), in tree.c and in onplay.c |
12:16:17 | Quelsaruk | there was a bug which should be fixed right now (but we found only in non-english languages) |
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12:16:46 | Eodun | I find the same problem when I use the english language |
12:17:14 | Quelsaruk | amiconn: i suppose we should change those tree.c and onplay.c Id with a new one. Maybe a LANG_PLAYLIST or something like that |
12:17:45 | Eodun | My first menu entry in my player is "Show icons" instead of "bookmarks" |
12:17:48 | Quelsaruk | Eodun: let me check if i get the same error |
12:17:59 | Eodun | clean build, by the way |
12:18:02 | amiconn | Eodun: What archos model? |
12:18:07 | Eodun | AJB6000 |
12:18:37 | Eodun | the weird thing is, voice works correctly. It talks the correct menus |
12:23:16 | Eodun | oh, btw, 1 question: I have to correct the pronunciation for spelling characters, because it says "Uppercase <letter>" (in spanish of course) instead of only the letter. |
12:23:37 | Quelsaruk | i don't remember player keys... how do you enter the menu? |
12:23:45 | Eodun | (sry, my english is horrible atm) |
12:24:44 | Eodun | dot in the numoad |
12:24:47 | Eodun | numpad |
12:24:51 | Quelsaruk | hmm |
12:25:00 | Quelsaruk | works perfectly |
12:25:01 | Quelsaruk | for me |
12:25:08 | Quelsaruk | even with espanol.lang |
12:25:21 | Quelsaruk | first one is "bookmark" |
12:25:22 | Eodun | don't understand what happens then |
12:25:27 | Quelsaruk | hmm |
12:25:31 | Quelsaruk | try Bleeding edge |
12:25:36 | Quelsaruk | if you don't mind |
12:25:42 | Eodun | I've tried it |
12:25:49 | Quelsaruk | and doesn't it work? |
12:25:53 | Eodun | menus work well |
12:25:59 | Eodun | but then voices aren't synced |
12:26:27 | Quelsaruk | oh |
12:26:32 | Eodun | perhaps rebuilding voices? |
12:26:41 | Quelsaruk | perhaps |
12:26:53 | Eodun | I'll try... |
12:27:31 | Eodun | oh, and the question: how do I tell makevoices to only change a pronunciation if it's alone, ie not inside a word? |
12:28:10 | Quelsaruk | sorry.. i don't know |
12:28:13 | Quelsaruk | ask amiconn :) |
12:28:25 | Eodun | k |
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12:36:15 | Eodun | ok, for some reason, the problem was with my cygwin not compiling correctly. |
12:36:20 | Eodun | I'm sorry |
12:36:59 | Eodun | I'll try to rebuild voices now and attaching them to the web afterwards |
12:37:16 | Eodun | thx for your work! c ya |
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12:44:14 | Quelsaruk | amiconn: i thinks we could advice about LANG_PLAYINDICES_PLAYLIST adding this to the desc: field |
12:44:25 | Quelsaruk | desc: in playlist.indices() when playlist is full. WARNING, This ID and next one are a single phrase. Translators, keep that in mind. |
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12:47:01 | Quelsaruk | re Eodun |
12:47:03 | Quelsaruk | :D |
12:47:09 | Eodun | hi again :) |
12:47:18 | Eodun | now building voices |
12:48:11 | Eodun | but I think there are some strings still left for traduction in spanish |
12:48:17 | Quelsaruk | hehehe |
12:48:25 | Quelsaruk | i updated yesterday |
12:48:27 | Quelsaruk | ;) |
12:48:37 | Quelsaruk | but we have some problems |
12:48:47 | Quelsaruk | that's what i was talking with amiconn |
12:48:50 | Eodun | can I help? |
12:48:54 | Quelsaruk | of course |
12:49:07 | Quelsaruk | sometimes my translations are not the best |
12:49:52 | Quelsaruk | maybe it's easier if we speak spanish in a query :) |
12:49:59 | Eodun | lol yeah |
12:54:49 | amiconn | Eodun: If yaou want the pronunciation adjustment for a whole word only, i.e. not part of a word, use the "match word boundary" metacharacter at the beginning & end. |
12:55:05 | amiconn | That's why a bit of regexp knowledge is handy.. |
12:55:30 | amiconn | This is used for german in several cases. |
12:57:00 | Eodun | hm... how do I find that metachar? is it \b? |
12:58:29 | Eodun | yeah, it works now. while we were talking I launched a voice creation and it works correctly |
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13:05:17 | Quelsaruk | Eodun: do you have spanish SAPI5 voice? |
13:05:18 | Quelsaruk | :D |
13:07:14 | Eodun | no... |
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13:16:07 | HCl | whats new? |
13:19:35 | LinusN | not much |
13:20:52 | Eodun | working with langs here |
13:21:26 | Quelsaruk | messing around with langs ;) |
13:25:27 | HCl | i was thinking of getting the emulator stuff up and running a bit.. |
13:25:37 | HCl | is there a proper iriver emulator working? |
13:25:41 | HCl | with the correct speed and stuff? |
13:25:43 | Bagder | no |
13:25:49 | LinusN | not even close |
13:25:51 | Bagder | there is a simulator |
13:25:57 | Bagder | the emultor is far from reality |
13:26:03 | HCl | hm. markun said there was.. ah well.. |
13:26:04 | HCl | okay. |
13:26:08 | LinusN | and i doubt it will ever be |
13:26:15 | HCl | i'll just wait some more then ;/ |
13:26:19 | Zagor | HCl: maybe he meant the gmini emulator? |
13:26:24 | HCl | till that bootloader is more stable |
13:26:26 | HCl | i have no clue |
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13:32:15 | Quelsaruk | amiconn: we have a strange issue |
13:32:27 | Quelsaruk | similar to the same we had yesterday with genlang |
13:32:33 | Quelsaruk | but.. this time with voices |
13:32:34 | Quelsaruk | :/ |
13:33:14 | Quelsaruk | i think it's the same regexp thing |
13:34:03 | Quelsaruk | Listening to Rockbox info is the funiest thing i've ever heard |
13:34:05 | Quelsaruk | amazing |
13:34:06 | Quelsaruk | :) |
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13:36:27 | amiconn | Quelsaruk: I think this is the id order issue with voicefont that I already mentioned. |
13:36:35 | amiconn | You can try 2 things: |
13:36:54 | Quelsaruk | hmmm, also can be |
13:36:56 | amiconn | (1) Bring the new ids in espanol.lang into the same order as in english.lang |
13:37:35 | amiconn | (2) change the script so that it uses english.lang in the voicefont call instead of the build lang |
13:38:58 | Quelsaruk | i suppose the only solution is changing ID order |
13:39:20 | Quelsaruk | or maybe will have another guy complaining here in 2 weeks :) |
13:40:39 | amiconn | Imho adapting the script is the more general solution, because then it will work for all languages. |
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13:42:41 | Quelsaruk | oooooookkkkkk |
13:43:01 | Quelsaruk | :) |
13:43:16 | Eodun | so we'll need to dl the new voicefont, huh? |
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13:44:39 | * | HCl reads the code for the bootloader and thinks it seems pretty straightforward, but knows he's prolly wrong about that because all the function calls had to be implemented |
13:44:55 | amiconn | Eodun: Yes, that's also necessary for proper .voice building. The old version has the same problems with deprecated VOICE_ idss as the binlang/genlang scripts had. |
13:45:32 | Quelsaruk | oh |
13:46:35 | amiconn | Quelsaruk: I told you yesterday... |
13:47:18 | Quelsaruk | amiconn: you know i had my brain somewhere else yesterday |
13:47:20 | Quelsaruk | :( |
13:47:21 | Quelsaruk | sorry |
13:47:32 | Quelsaruk | now i remember |
13:47:44 | Quelsaruk | you said you added a *UPDATED* or something like that |
13:49:08 | * | Quelsaruk needs some holidays |
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14:06:46 | El_Barto2 | hi guys! |
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14:08:36 | El_Barto2 | do you know if i can charge my gmini 120 trough usb? |
14:08:58 | Bagder | no idea |
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14:10:36 | El_Barto2 | or if mp3,wma and wav are decode through hardware or software? |
14:10:40 | Zagor | software |
14:11:03 | El_Barto2 | so it could be possible to write a soft which for example supports ogg? |
14:11:24 | Zagor | if the cpu is strong enough, yes |
14:11:29 | El_Barto2 | cool |
14:11:57 | El_Barto2 | heard that you are developing rockbox for gmini ;) |
14:12:07 | El_Barto2 | could you tell me some features? ;) |
14:12:26 | Zagor | we are porting rockbox, which means it will have rockbox' features |
14:12:34 | Bagder | www.rockbox.org |
14:12:37 | El_Barto2 | ok ;) |
14:12:52 | El_Barto2 | thought that you write a new rockbox.. |
14:13:05 | El_Barto2 | which ogg support and so on ;) |
14:13:13 | El_Barto2 | with.. |
14:13:16 | LinusN | no need for a new rockbox for that |
14:13:16 | Zagor | no, we are enhancing it |
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14:14:02 | El_Barto2 | and what you know about flashing the gmini? |
14:14:17 | El_Barto2 | is it possible to flash rockbox on it? |
14:14:27 | El_Barto2 | in future ;) |
14:14:35 | Zagor | yes |
14:14:43 | El_Barto2 | perfect! |
14:14:57 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPort |
14:15:02 | El_Barto2 | ah ;) |
14:15:55 | El_Barto2 | and is it possible to change the harddisk= |
14:16:02 | El_Barto2 | many questions ;) |
14:16:20 | Zagor | yes, if you can find someplace to buy a new one |
14:16:42 | El_Barto2 | why,is it so small or what? |
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14:17:41 | Zagor | the xs200 disk at least is rather special. the others i think are using "standard" 1.8-inch drives. |
14:17:51 | El_Barto2 | hmm |
14:18:07 | Zagor | but even the 1.8" disks are not easy to find |
14:18:15 | El_Barto2 | so an upgrade wouldnt be so easy right? |
14:18:30 | Zagor | depends on if you can find a disk |
14:18:41 | El_Barto2 | understand |
14:19:47 | El_Barto2 | so...i will sell my jukebox recorder 20 and buy a gmini 120... |
14:19:58 | El_Barto2 | its cheeper and better i think |
14:20:55 | El_Barto2 | anyone interested ? :) |
14:22:37 | Bagder | I doubt it is better until Rockbox works on it |
14:23:13 | Bagder | but that's me |
14:23:59 | Quelsaruk | in my opinion, if rockbox can be ported to iriver h3xx then that's a good option for a new box |
14:24:04 | Quelsaruk | :) |
14:26:26 | El_Barto2 | but i think an expensive right? |
14:26:35 | Quelsaruk | hmm |
14:26:47 | El_Barto2 | the gmini is cheaper and has more features than the recoder! |
14:26:54 | Quelsaruk | less than my recorder6 when i bought it |
14:26:57 | El_Barto2 | so why buy the recorder? |
14:27:00 | Zagor | it doesn't have digital in/out |
14:27:01 | Quelsaruk | it was nearly 480€ |
14:27:07 | Zagor | it has much smaller disk |
14:27:15 | Zagor | it doesn't use standard batteries |
14:27:23 | Zagor | it doesn't run rockbox |
14:28:08 | Eodun | the last one is the worst IMHO |
14:28:29 | El_Barto2 | it has digital in |
14:28:30 | El_Barto2 | ;) |
14:28:33 | preglow | does anyone know if the spdif spec is freely available? |
14:28:56 | Bagder | probably not |
14:29:09 | preglow | having rockbox support pulling track names and such from the cable would be cool |
14:29:59 | Zagor | preglow: are there any other devices that do that? |
14:30:11 | preglow | my minidisc player did |
14:30:25 | Zagor | ok. worth looking into, then. |
14:30:28 | preglow | i hooked it up to my cd player, and it ripped cds perfectly |
14:30:31 | preglow | track names and all |
14:30:39 | preglow | and my cd player is not a sony, so no proprietary shit |
14:31:15 | preglow | as soon as rockbox is more operational, i'd be happy to dump some data |
14:33:24 | LinusN | the s/pdif standard is not free, afaik, but there is some info here: http://www.epanorama.net/documents/audio/spdif.html |
14:34:35 | preglow | LinusN: sure, but i doubt it should be THAT hard to reverse engineer it, but then again, i might be wrong ;) |
14:35:20 | Bagder | hey, sony was involved with it so there's no surprise it isn't open |
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14:35:39 | Bagder | sp is sony philips, iirc |
14:36:17 | preglow | LinusN: do you know how the coldfire is interfaced to the spdif ports, btw? is there some risk of it not seeing higher level data? |
14:36:31 | LinusN | the coldfire supports the iec958 control channel (cd-subcode stream) |
14:37:22 | preglow | and btw, what program did you use to make the schematics in the wiki? |
14:37:30 | LinusN | eagle |
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14:41:10 | ripnetuk | does consumer spfidd even have track names? on my sony hifi it needs another cable totraanfer cd titles to minidisk |
14:41:52 | HCl | hrm |
14:41:55 | HCl | out of sheer curiousity |
14:42:03 | HCl | is it possible to change the harddisk of the iriver? |
14:43:36 | preglow | should be |
14:43:43 | preglow | but size is a major concern |
14:43:47 | HCl | hm. |
14:43:50 | preglow | as in physical size |
14:43:53 | ripnetuk | i think its quite a narrow drive - as i understand it, you cannot yet get 60 gigs that dfit |
14:43:54 | HCl | yea, needs to be 1.8 " hm? |
14:43:58 | preglow | larger disks are physically larger |
14:44:04 | HCl | okay.. |
14:44:25 | preglow | some people tried fitting a 30 gig into the h120, but it was just a couple of mm too thick |
14:44:31 | HCl | :X |
14:44:43 | preglow | if you've ever opened it, you've seen that there's not too much space left in there |
14:44:53 | HCl | ah well, i don't really need to upgrade my h140... |
14:44:54 | HCl | but |
14:44:57 | HCl | it'd be sweet if i could. |
14:45:04 | HCl | cause then i'd never need a new music player, really. |
14:45:12 | preglow | hehe |
14:45:17 | LinusN | "640k is enough" |
14:45:19 | preglow | i think twenty gigs are more than enough for me |
14:45:22 | HCl | LinusN: :P |
14:45:42 | HCl | LinusN: how about the battery of the h100 series? is that detachable on the inside? |
14:45:46 | preglow | but yeah, with the advent of rockbox, it does indeed look like i'll be keeping this player for a while |
14:45:50 | preglow | HCl: yes |
14:45:50 | HCl | cause i know it'll degrade sooner or later |
14:45:59 | HCl | preglow: don't suppose its a common part, hm ? :/ |
14:46:01 | preglow | HCl: it's only fitted with a simple cable and can be upgraded |
14:46:05 | LinusN | HCl: yes, you can replace it |
14:46:08 | preglow | HCl: it is, actually |
14:46:10 | HCl | sweeeeeet |
14:46:11 | HCl | ^_^ |
14:46:21 | preglow | HCl: you can even get better capacity, but again, physical size is a major concern |
14:46:25 | HCl | *nods* |
14:46:26 | HCl | well. |
14:46:35 | HCl | if i'm gonna have to resort building a custom case for it |
14:46:38 | HCl | i don't think i'll mind much. |
14:46:52 | HCl | assuming that in the future, due to lack of space and battery, my h140 will be useless |
14:46:55 | preglow | thought any more about a gb emulator, btw? :PP |
14:47:10 | HCl | yes, i have, but i really can't do anything till i can actually develop on my iriver |
14:47:13 | LinusN | first things first, u know |
14:47:16 | preglow | the screen of the h120 is 16 pixels lacking in the height direction, otherwise it's a perfect match for the gameboy |
14:47:17 | HCl | cause i can't really get a measure of speed of it |
14:47:23 | HCl | i see. |
14:47:25 | HCl | well. |
14:47:29 | HCl | i don't think many games will mind |
14:47:35 | HCl | having chopped off 8 pixels of the top and bottom |
14:47:50 | HCl | or maybe just evenly distributed across the screen. |
14:48:00 | HCl | that'd prolly be better |
14:48:10 | preglow | maybe, you'll find out |
14:48:14 | HCl | ofcourse. |
14:48:41 | HCl | but first i have this stupid project this week.. then next week i'll be busy with valentine.. and after *that* i finally got some time :X |
14:48:43 | preglow | but yes, there's quite a lot to be written before something like that can be attempted, hehe |
14:49:08 | HCl | LinusN: out of sheer curiousity, is it possible to check whether two buttons have been pressed at the same time? |
14:49:27 | preglow | i'm writing my masters thesis, so i'll probably have some stuff to fill my time with as well |
14:49:34 | preglow | HCl: ahh, that'll be a problem |
14:49:35 | HCl | though now that i think of it, i might end up not needing it.. |
14:49:46 | HCl | if you were to emulate a gba |
14:49:49 | HCl | you'd lack one button |
14:49:51 | preglow | HCl: 'cause you can't |
14:49:55 | HCl | ofcourse you could map it to the remote |
14:49:58 | LinusN | HCl: no, you can't |
14:50:01 | HCl | okay |
14:50:04 | HCl | but anyways |
14:50:08 | HCl | i don't think i'd get gba running on it |
14:50:16 | HCl | and gameboy only has 4 buttons and a controlstick |
14:50:18 | HCl | so thats fine |
14:50:27 | HCl | hm. |
14:50:28 | HCl | actually. |
14:50:34 | ripnetuk | i think you would be lucky to emulate a gba on a processor this slow :) its snes level of complex |
14:50:49 | HCl | some games (i know zelda does...) require you to press buttons simultaneously :( |
14:50:51 | Zagor | isn't gba color too? |
14:51:04 | preglow | yes |
14:51:10 | HCl | that might be a problem... |
14:51:13 | LinusN | well, you can detect Play separately from the other keys |
14:51:16 | preglow | i think gba is out if the question, but a gb might be realistic |
14:51:23 | * | HCl nods @ preglow |
14:51:35 | HCl | with frameskip and dynarec, it should be possible to go a long way |
14:51:49 | HCl | i just realized that you need to be able to press buttons at the same time though.. |
14:52:01 | HCl | i might end up having to map "keycombo buttons" to the remote or something.. |
14:52:02 | preglow | HCl: well, linus says you can press play and another key at the same time |
14:52:12 | HCl | okay |
14:52:15 | HCl | well. |
14:52:16 | HCl | thats something |
14:52:17 | HCl | but |
14:52:17 | LinusN | the hold switch is separate too |
14:52:21 | HCl | hrm. |
14:52:24 | HCl | the hold switch o.o;;; |
14:52:25 | HCl | lol. |
14:52:29 | courtc | haha.. not you people too.. I get "gb emulator on ipodlinux" |
14:52:30 | HCl | i never really considered that as a button. |
14:52:31 | HCl | but. |
14:52:33 | HCl | actually. |
14:52:33 | ripnetuk | the hold switch would be good to reload a gun on doom :) |
14:52:39 | LinusN | hahaha |
14:52:48 | preglow | ahah |
14:52:48 | HCl | if i was to like |
14:52:51 | HCl | map play to A |
14:52:55 | HCl | map stop to B |
14:52:59 | HCl | and map hold to select |
14:53:04 | HCl | then you'd at least be able to save in zelda |
14:53:06 | LinusN | or we could attach a keyboard in the remote socket |
14:53:14 | HCl | provided you managed to switch them all |
14:53:18 | HCl | lmao. |
14:53:21 | HCl | is that possible? |
14:53:24 | LinusN | yes |
14:53:26 | HCl | xD |
14:53:30 | HCl | lol. |
14:53:32 | preglow | i'm thinking of making a midi->spi converter for the remote socket, it would be really cool having the h120 be a portable synth |
14:53:44 | HCl | well. |
14:53:47 | preglow | ahhh, ideas, ideas |
14:53:49 | preglow | so little time |
14:53:53 | Zagor | those foldable palm keyboards would be perfect |
14:53:53 | HCl | i'd have to hook up with some electronic geeks. |
14:54:02 | HCl | but it might be possible to build a tiny addon for gameboy buttons. |
14:54:06 | LinusN | Zagor: c00l indeed |
14:54:06 | HCl | anyways. |
14:54:12 | HCl | i'll try with the resources i'll have first. |
14:54:23 | HCl | there aren't that many games for the gb that require simultaneous keypresses.. |
14:54:33 | HCl | i only know of one.. zelda, which requires you to press a, b, and select to save |
14:54:44 | LinusN | i'd say the screen size is more of a problem |
14:54:48 | preglow | LinusN: do you know if the remote employs the same adc scheme for button decoding? |
14:54:53 | LinusN | yes it does |
14:55:02 | LinusN | on a different channel |
14:55:08 | HCl | LinusN: i think it should be well possible to filter out 16 horizontal lines on the screen.. |
14:55:17 | preglow | HCl: it won't be pretty |
14:55:21 | preglow | i'm almost certain of that |
14:55:34 | preglow | the gameboy already has few vertical pixels |
14:55:35 | HCl | preglow: its either that or 1/2 of its size. |
14:55:53 | HCl | cause scaling is *EXPENSIVE* cpu wise |
14:55:55 | LinusN | one could configure which pixel rows to remove for each game |
14:56:03 | preglow | HCl: yeah, i know, maybe a toggle to either see the top or the bottom sixteen pixels would work, heh |
14:56:12 | HCl | preglow: interesting suggestion. |
14:56:13 | HCl | :) |
14:56:29 | HCl | anyways. |
14:56:31 | preglow | i think skipping pixels is pretty much out of the question, it would be too noticable for gameboy games |
14:56:31 | LinusN | using the hold switch .-) |
14:56:34 | HCl | we're getting too far ahead xD |
14:56:39 | HCl | LinusN: xD |
14:57:07 | preglow | HCl: no shit |
14:57:15 | HCl | first i need to wait for a proper development environment *prods linus with a stick* :P |
14:57:20 | LinusN | ouch |
14:57:22 | preglow | planning a gb emul when all rockbox does is flash a led :PP |
14:57:25 | HCl | it was a gentle prod :P |
14:57:35 | HCl | anyways |
14:57:36 | HCl | now i'm off |
14:57:41 | preglow | ait, have fun |
14:57:42 | HCl | to bugger people in stores |
14:57:50 | HCl | and visit my sis who's in the hospital :/ |
14:58:13 | preglow | nothing serious, i hope |
14:58:31 | HCl | severe case of anemia |
14:58:36 | HCl | she collapsed in a mall |
14:58:56 | ripnetuk | brb |
14:59:05 | preglow | that does sound serious |
14:59:35 | HCl | meh, she's not in immediate life danger |
14:59:36 | HCl | so i can take it |
14:59:41 | HCl | i bought her a stuffed panda :) |
14:59:49 | HCl | afk now |
14:59:54 | preglow | that ought to perk up just about anyone |
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15:00:00 | preglow | k, take it easy |
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15:01:03 | preglow | LinusN: Bagder mentioned some bootloader related fixes, anything particular you're working on? |
15:02:46 | LinusN | a safety fix, in case the bootloader crashes |
15:03:25 | preglow | a hardware based exception handler, like? i'm not really familiar with 68k architecture |
15:03:26 | LinusN | so it starts the original firmware if it crashes |
15:04:14 | preglow | it does sound like a clever thing to have, yes |
15:05:43 | Eodun | hmm... one question: It is possible to flash rockbox in a AJB6000 that says it's impossible, via some solder? or it's the rom model what blocks it? |
15:05:57 | LinusN | it's the rom model |
15:06:12 | LinusN | you need to replace the flash chip |
15:06:27 | Eodun | oh ok |
15:06:35 | Eodun | better not messing with it |
15:07:20 | * | Bagder won't mention who replaced his flash chip ;-) |
15:07:33 | * | Bagder does the flash dance ;-) |
15:07:54 | Eodun | lol |
15:08:09 | Bagder | but I owe Linus lots of pizzas |
15:08:43 | LinusN | Bagder: i accept beer too :-) |
15:08:47 | Bagder | aha |
15:10:05 | Eodun | can that chip be bought in a normal electronics store? |
15:10:28 | LinusN | i doubt it |
15:10:46 | LinusN | well, you need to define "normal electronics store" of course |
15:10:57 | Eodun | lol |
15:11:28 | Eodun | nah, i doubt that they sell it in the places I'm thinking about |
15:13:46 | preglow | i'd like both pizza and beer right now |
15:18:09 | amiconn | LinusN: Talking about flashing - any news concerning the oldplayer test? Sorry for nagging over and over... |
15:23:19 | LinusN | no news |
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15:23:57 | webguest41 | hey linus congrats on iriver progress |
15:24:02 | LinusN | thx |
15:24:25 | webguest41 | is the gdb stub bit next |
15:26:42 | webguest41 | linus? |
15:27:15 | Bagder | once we can boot, "anyone" can help out with the gdb stub |
15:27:38 | webguest41 | you dont need special hardware like with the bdm? |
15:27:41 | ripnetuk | is the uart connection exposed (eg in the remote socket) |
15:27:53 | ripnetuk | or will we have to crack open the case? |
15:28:09 | Bagder | webguest41: you need to modify the player, yes |
15:28:20 | ripnetuk | but < 11 connections :) |
15:28:29 | Bagder | still, there's no point in a gdb stub if Linus is the only person who can use it |
15:29:00 | Bagder | well, it would still be a point, just not as important |
15:29:05 | webguest41 | is everyone working on the iriver project now that the bootlaoader is done? |
15:29:13 | preglow | it needs some more work, then we're on it |
15:29:19 | Bagder | who's "everyone" ? |
15:29:29 | webguest41 | i dunno |
15:29:34 | ripnetuk | ive got the dev environment all set up... just waiting for Linus to say its less dangerous to flash before I go ahead and do it |
15:29:35 | webguest41 | rockbox crew |
15:29:59 | ripnetuk | once the bootloader is flashed, and my unit is not dead, I can rest easy knowing that everything else is 'soft' change |
15:30:20 | webguest41 | how do you guys recover a dead unit without bdm? |
15:30:27 | Bagder | we don't |
15:30:31 | ripnetuk | you cant, thats why i wait |
15:30:42 | webguest41 | but it probably will happen |
15:30:49 | Bagder | we've decided not to kill our units ;-) |
15:30:59 | LinusN | it will undoubtedly happen to someone |
15:31:07 | Bagder | indeed |
15:31:14 | preglow | yes |
15:31:16 | webguest41 | ok |
15:31:21 | preglow | i sure as hell hope that someone is not me |
15:31:24 | preglow | god, i will be depressed then |
15:31:37 | LinusN | then you could send it to me |
15:31:39 | webguest41 | well im at school now so i g2g, thanks for filling me in i check the site everyday for iriver updates |
15:31:41 | preglow | hmm |
15:31:43 | preglow | not a bad idea |
15:31:52 | preglow | but isn't fitting the bdm interface quite a bit of work? |
15:32:00 | LinusN | it can be made easy |
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15:32:15 | LinusN | but i need some help |
15:32:21 | preglow | well, sure, as long as you're up for it ;) |
15:32:44 | LinusN | there is room for a debug connector on the pcb |
15:32:45 | ripnetuk | im not sending my iRiver to Linus - ive seen what he does to them :) he even puts picturs of their torture on his web site ;) |
15:32:53 | Bagder | hehe |
15:33:04 | preglow | haha |
15:33:26 | LinusN | but i need to find a suitable connector to solder to the pcb |
15:37:32 | preglow | about where on the board is it located? |
15:39:23 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverInfo |
15:39:47 | LinusN | check the nude picture on the left edge |
15:41:53 | ripnetuk | back or front? |
15:41:58 | preglow | front? |
15:42:58 | Eodun | Thanks god I know this is a programmers' channel... XD -><LinusN> check the nude picture on the left edge |
15:43:07 | LinusN | hahaha |
15:43:12 | LinusN | full frontal |
15:43:36 | Bagder | chips and nudity! |
15:43:45 | preglow | if it's the one i think, it doesn't look very connector friendly |
15:43:54 | LinusN | only chips, no nuts |
15:44:13 | LinusN | preglow: it is the same type as the lcd connector |
15:44:33 | Eodun | is there a similar place with player's images? |
15:44:48 | LinusN | player's, as in jb6000? |
15:44:51 | Eodun | yep |
15:44:54 | preglow | LinusN: of course |
15:45:28 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/internals/ |
15:45:32 | Eodun | i've only found the disassembling ones |
15:45:34 | Eodun | ok thx |
15:45:52 | Bagder | try the Tjerk ones |
15:47:55 | LinusN | no nude pics, unfortunately |
15:48:18 | Eodun | lol |
15:48:34 | Eodun | c ya, I'll keep working on spanish voices |
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15:50:05 | preglow | interfacing the h120 serial port to a pc shouldn't require much more than a level converter, no? |
15:50:14 | LinusN | nope |
15:50:23 | preglow | great, i've got tons of those |
15:51:02 | preglow | is it 5v og 3.3v ? |
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15:56:55 | preglow | 3.3, crap |
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16:48:17 | LinusN | i think i found a suitable bdm connector |
16:48:27 | LinusN | just ordered one, hope it fits |
16:48:38 | Bagder | nice |
16:48:53 | LinusN | if it does, resurrecting a dead iriver won't be that difficult |
16:50:28 | * | Bagder runs off |
16:50:36 | elinenbe | who has a dead iriver? |
16:50:49 | LinusN | none yet |
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16:53:54 | ripnetuk | what are the main dangers? afaict is it a unknown variation in the hardware, failed flash itself (also possible with original firmware), and broken firmware image |
16:54:52 | ripnetuk | broken firmware image can be avoided by using md5 to verify its the EXACT same image as Linus used. |
16:56:37 | LinusN | i fear alternative 1) the most |
16:56:43 | ripnetuk | me too |
16:56:59 | LinusN | and user error of course |
16:57:09 | preglow | like constructing a faulty image |
16:57:14 | LinusN | yup |
16:57:15 | ripnetuk | isnt that covered by option 3 (broken image) |
16:57:16 | preglow | i fear that more |
16:58:11 | ripnetuk | once the bootloader works, there will be no need to alter it - surely if there is one 'proper' build of the bootloader code, we can put md5's of every known firmware image that has been tested with it |
16:58:40 | ripnetuk | i know I am planning on trying to get a pre-built tested binary boot bin from someone who has tested it, rather than building my own. |
16:58:55 | LinusN | of course |
16:59:05 | preglow | i don't think depending on not having to alter the bootloader is a very good idea |
16:59:12 | ripnetuk | ? |
16:59:26 | LinusN | ? |
16:59:30 | preglow | but sure, having a couple of md5's lying on the website would be good |
16:59:31 | ripnetuk | once mine can bootstrap code from the hdd, I wont be risking touching it again :) |
16:59:58 | ripnetuk | i still think a .ips patch to convert stock firmware into 'magic' firmware is the way to go |
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17:00:01 | LinusN | surely, we migth find a bug in the loader so we would have/want to flash it again |
17:00:10 | preglow | of course |
17:00:20 | preglow | ripnetuk: yes, i like that idea as well |
17:00:31 | ripnetuk | its possible, but surely if it can load code from hdd and jump to it, we can work around any problems ? |
17:00:33 | preglow | the tools are pretty foolproof |
17:00:41 | ripnetuk | they are when you md5 the result |
17:00:59 | ripnetuk | but that doesnt protect us againt cock-up 1, which is variations on hardware in the iRiver... |
17:01:06 | preglow | but we will have dead units anyway |
17:01:13 | ripnetuk | why? |
17:01:40 | LinusN | because of murphy |
17:01:53 | ripnetuk | or sod as i call him ;) |
17:02:42 | ripnetuk | i still think that hooking the bootloader into a less critical section of the rom (like switch to radio) for testing purposes is the way to go |
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17:03:24 | LinusN | i don't |
17:03:30 | ripnetuk | ok |
17:03:53 | ripnetuk | the rom isnt half empty is it? we cant do something clever like tying the highest address pin high / low to get 2 different images can we? |
17:03:56 | LinusN | mainly because it creates more work for me |
17:04:04 | ripnetuk | fair enough |
17:04:09 | LinusN | no, it is more than half full |
17:04:43 | LinusN | ips seems to be a nice way of handling it |
17:05:39 | LinusN | ips combined with md5 should eliminate the bad file problem |
17:05:44 | ripnetuk | yes |
17:06:18 | ripnetuk | there are also bound to be people distributing pre-modded images... |
17:06:39 | LinusN | under the table, yes |
17:06:52 | LinusN | we will not |
17:06:57 | ripnetuk | i know that |
17:07:00 | LinusN | we == rockbox |
17:07:20 | ripnetuk | you have kept your nose clean up till now, i would be disappointed if you abandoned your ideals |
17:07:38 | LinusN | :-) |
17:08:43 | ripnetuk | although (C) is a bit screwed up... it was never intended to restrict things like this |
17:10:49 | ripnetuk | touch wood my server seems to be stable again now I replaced the hdd |
17:10:57 | amiconn | LinusN: re touching the iriver flash after bootloader is working - I'd think we want to support rockbox in flash on iriver too (?) |
17:12:18 | ripnetuk | have we invertigated a buffer overrun attack on the id3 database? im thinking it would be nice to be able to test code in a non destructive way on various hardware to probe for variations |
17:12:24 | preglow | well, so would i, but it's not really critical is it? |
17:13:10 | LinusN | amiconn: of course |
17:13:24 | LinusN | ripnetuk: no, i haven't investigated it |
17:13:36 | LinusN | i have an mp3 file that hangs the player though |
17:13:48 | ripnetuk | its just the 40 char (or whatever) limit seems to be an invite for an overrun :) |
17:14:21 | amiconn | LinusN: How do you fit rockbox into the rom then? Is there enough space left? Does the iriver bootloader support ucl compression like our archos loader? |
17:16:03 | LinusN | amiconn: we would have to toss out the original |
17:16:21 | preglow | and good riddance |
17:18:18 | ripnetuk | its not THAT bad... i would be happy with it myself if it did custom wps |
17:18:39 | ripnetuk | i very much like the way you can disable unused shuffle modes etc so you dont have to cycle thru them |
17:18:42 | preglow | i'd be happy if it did gapless playback and stopped spinning up the harddisk at all times |
17:18:54 | preglow | plus some playlist functionality that isn't tied to a pc |
17:19:08 | ripnetuk | and the ability to return to wps from the treeview without having to press stop the EXACT right number of times |
17:19:20 | LinusN | preglow: something i enjoy every day with rockbox :-) |
17:19:32 | preglow | LinusN: yes, and i look forward to enjoying it myself |
17:19:43 | LinusN | i have to run |
17:19:48 | ripnetuk | cya |
17:19:53 | preglow | don't fall and break something |
17:20:02 | LinusN | :-) |
17:20:07 | LinusN | cu around folx |
17:20:10 | preglow | alot of our hopes are invested in you! run carefully |
17:20:12 | preglow | yeap |
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17:21:05 | ripnetuk | so how tempted have you been preglow to try it ??? (flashing i mean) |
17:22:27 | preglow | very |
17:22:48 | preglow | wasn't far away the other day, but managed to keep from doing it |
17:22:48 | ripnetuk | me too.... ireckon if my server hadnt had problems this week (keeping me busy) i might well have tried it |
17:22:54 | ripnetuk | me too... |
17:23:12 | ripnetuk | i think it would be VERY cool to see the backlight flashing on and off :) |
17:23:26 | preglow | haha |
17:23:29 | ripnetuk | did your bootloader.bin md5 match badger? |
17:23:33 | preglow | yes |
17:23:41 | ripnetuk | so you are using a more recent gcc then? |
17:23:58 | preglow | the newest there is |
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17:24:42 | Yokalosh | Hi |
17:24:54 | Yokalosh | Does anyone know anything about the iPod mini? |
17:25:13 | ripnetuk | not i |
17:25:25 | preglow | well, what do you want to know about it? |
17:26:01 | Yokalosh | If it is possible to make it as cool as the Jukebox Recorder 10 with Rockbox on it |
17:26:12 | preglow | i sincerely doubt it |
17:26:24 | ripnetuk | i think rockbox avoids ipods as they use non-standard bits - i may be wrong tho |
17:26:28 | preglow | not without a shitload of work |
17:26:39 | ripnetuk | i think archos and iriver use off the shelf components |
17:26:42 | preglow | and yes, the non-standard bits part is a real problem |
17:27:49 | Yokalosh | I don't like the iPod but my mate from school just gave me his to make more 'enhanced' |
17:28:17 | HCl | yay. |
17:28:20 | HCl | it is I |
17:28:24 | HCl | :p |
17:28:31 | * | HCl finally returned |
17:29:49 | Yokalosh | I was hoping to put Linux on it just because I am making money from my friend for doing this........... |
17:29:52 | ripnetuk | i think they got a Linux kernel working on some iPods... must be some fun to be had there |
17:30:05 | Yokalosh | the only prob is iPodlinux doesnt support mini at the moment |
17:30:21 | Yokalosh | Which sucks |
17:30:38 | Yokalosh | Which is better.... Rockbox or iPodlinux? |
17:30:45 | Yokalosh | ;) |
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17:35:28 | ripnetuk | Rockbox is better |
17:35:41 | ripnetuk | for me, as I dont have a iPod and I do have a iRiver :) |
17:36:01 | HCl | heheh |
17:36:04 | HCl | iriverlinux. |
17:36:06 | HCl | xD |
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17:36:54 | ripnetuk | not much point really... the mini-os that LinusN and pals has written is much more approriate to such a limited hardware platform IMHO |
17:37:09 | preglow | agreed |
17:37:17 | coob | depends |
17:37:19 | HCl | ofcourse. |
17:37:23 | coob | ipl is a lot less complete |
17:37:26 | HCl | like, you don't even have a keyboard |
17:37:33 | coob | but they don't have the kind of hw info you have |
17:37:39 | Yokalosh | What is the best 'MP3 player' at the mo? |
17:37:39 | HCl | so unless we manage to hook one up into the remote port |
17:37:41 | coob | ipod uses a more closed platform |
17:37:51 | HCl | Yokalosh: it depends on personal preference |
17:37:53 | HCl | personally |
17:37:57 | coob | Yokalosh: that's like asking what's the best car is |
17:37:59 | coob | it depends. |
17:38:00 | HCl | i think that once rockbox works on iriver |
17:38:09 | HCl | i prefer iriver hp140 |
17:38:14 | Yokalosh | Lol |
17:38:16 | ripnetuk | HCl - i have to agree there |
17:38:36 | ripnetuk | i think at the moment the hp140 is sweet as is... my sisters Sony hdd walkman is very cute tho |
17:38:43 | Yokalosh | I might be getting a Archos AV140 just to see what its like.... Rocommendable? |
17:38:44 | HCl | well. |
17:38:50 | coob | ui on the ipod and itunes integration is what drew me to it |
17:38:52 | HCl | i severely dislike its inability to create playlists on the fly |
17:38:55 | HCl | i rarely listen to the same music |
17:39:03 | HCl | and i like to browse my collection and add songs from here and there |
17:39:05 | HCl | and listen to those |
17:39:10 | coob | HCl: you can do that on an ipod. |
17:39:14 | ripnetuk | the 140 can shuffle the entire drive tho which is :) :) |
17:39:24 | coob | as can the ipod :) |
17:39:28 | HCl | yes, but i have an iriver, so i don't care whether you can do it on an ipod or not. |
17:39:33 | coob | (both using the apple firmware) |
17:39:35 | ripnetuk | hehe |
17:39:42 | HCl | its rather irrelevant o.; |
17:39:43 | HCl | o.o; |
17:39:46 | ripnetuk | and the iRivers remote is the mutts nuts |
17:39:58 | Yokalosh | So most of you guys would agree that the iPod sucks? |
17:40:01 | coob | the ipod also used to be a chick magnet before every tom dick and harry had one :< |
17:40:15 | ripnetuk | i dont think it sucks - ive never used one... i dont like the way it looks |
17:40:16 | coob | Yokalosh: no, it depends on what you want |
17:40:16 | HCl | i honestly can't say, never had one. |
17:40:22 | HCl | i don't like white cases anyways. |
17:40:33 | HCl | *shrugs* |
17:40:36 | HCl | can ipod do radio? |
17:40:45 | coob | nope. |
17:40:53 | HCl | well, i like radio, so then i wouldn't like an ipod o.o; |
17:41:27 | ripnetuk | i never use the radio... instead I use mythtv to grab radio shows I like and mp3 them, then they get synced to the h140... radio on demand |
17:41:28 | coob | i hate radio, they play shit 90% of the time and about 3 companies own all of the stations. i dislike payola to get songs heard. |
17:41:29 | Yokalosh | It is far too commercialised for me, to many people have em |
17:42:12 | HCl | well, it depends on the music station, really |
17:42:14 | HCl | but i agree in general |
17:42:23 | HCl | out of the 15-20 radiostations we have, 2 are kinda decent |
17:42:26 | coob | Yokalosh: selling anything is 'commercialised', the word you're looking for is 'common' which makes you an eliteist snob. But that's OK :) |
17:42:39 | ripnetuk | i prefer 'factual' radio, and music from cds |
17:42:44 | Yokalosh | Lol |
17:43:03 | Yokalosh | Soz ;) |
17:43:15 | coob | 'factual radio'? Rush Limbaugh? :D |
17:43:37 | Yokalosh | I'm actually very happy with my old Archos Jukebox Recorder 10 ;) |
17:43:54 | Yokalosh | It does what i bought it for and when i found out about rockbox it did more |
17:43:57 | ripnetuk | i would have been happy with my Archos JBR20 had it had a decent remote |
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17:44:41 | Yokalosh | Archos is pretty cool when they work properly |
17:45:18 | ripnetuk | mine never failed me... sold it on ebay when i got my iRiver |
17:46:39 | Yokalosh | Cool |
17:47:00 | Yokalosh | Stuff like that costs so much for a 14 yr old though ;( |
17:47:38 | ripnetuk | as you get older you will realise that the world screws you for all the money you get, so you will still be skint even when earning $$$ :) |
17:48:02 | Yokalosh | I already realised that the world screws me for all the money i get |
17:48:05 | Yokalosh | ;) |
17:48:09 | Yokalosh | It sucks |
17:49:23 | Yokalosh | I know this is off the subject but anyone know any money making scams ;) |
17:50:03 | Yokalosh | Yaaaawwwwn................. |
17:50:22 | coob | yeah, you go into a bank with a gun and politely ask for money. |
17:50:31 | Yokalosh | Dude..... |
17:50:34 | Yokalosh | I'm 14 |
17:50:52 | coob | yeah bit slow for a 14 year old too :( |
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17:51:05 | Yokalosh | Maybe nxt year |
17:51:33 | ripnetuk | thats so 90's... these days you phish the unwary |
17:51:52 | preglow | ask people for their credit card details |
17:51:54 | preglow | politely |
17:51:58 | Yokalosh | lol, what did you mean by 'yeah bit slow for a 14 year old too'? |
17:52:52 | ripnetuk | the best scam i found was to go to uni and get a degree... |
17:52:55 | ripnetuk | then get a job :) |
17:53:03 | Yokalosh | Lol |
17:53:13 | Yokalosh | Few years to go yet....... |
17:53:15 | ripnetuk | employers believe that having a degree makes you work better... |
17:53:22 | Yokalosh | Thats dumb |
17:53:23 | ripnetuk | then you still have that choice ahead of you |
17:53:42 | Yokalosh | Yup |
17:53:49 | Yokalosh | U got a degree? |
17:53:51 | preglow | i'm working on my masters thesis right now, i sure hope that scheme works... |
17:53:55 | ripnetuk | yeah |
17:54:01 | Yokalosh | What in? |
17:54:03 | ripnetuk | computer science, kings college, london |
17:54:07 | ripnetuk | 1st :) |
17:54:12 | Yokalosh | Wow |
17:54:19 | Yokalosh | so ur a bit of a boff...... |
17:54:30 | preglow | but gotta go, guys |
17:54:32 | preglow | later |
17:54:32 | Quelsaruk | back to life |
17:54:38 | coob | ripnetuk: heh i went to an open day at kings for cs |
17:54:39 | Yokalosh | c ya |
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17:54:47 | ripnetuk | not really... just interested in computers... spent most of my time at uni getting mashed on skunk ;) |
17:54:59 | Yokalosh | Nice |
17:55:06 | coob | they were showing some final year projects |
17:55:19 | coob | and i was like 'wtf i could've done that when i was 14' |
17:55:35 | coob | then decided to go and get a degree in politics :< |
17:55:38 | ripnetuk | yeah, i did a simple web interface to a database - they loved it :) |
17:55:43 | coob | lol |
17:55:53 | Yokalosh | cool |
17:55:56 | Yokalosh | ;) |
17:55:59 | coob | this one girl had an mp3 playing server that she was controling with an ipaq |
17:56:04 | Yokalosh | I don't do IT as school |
17:56:21 | ripnetuk | i didnt do it as school myself. Did science and maths |
17:56:24 | ripnetuk | IT |
17:56:28 | ripnetuk | at |
17:56:29 | ripnetuk | :) |
17:56:34 | Yokalosh | I chose not to do it unfortunately |
17:56:36 | coob | IT at school = how to use MS Office. |
17:56:41 | ripnetuk | exactly |
17:56:42 | Yokalosh | Yer |
17:56:55 | Yokalosh | I think they are currently learning headers and footers |
17:56:58 | ripnetuk | (using UK definition of school == US high school i think) |
17:56:59 | Yokalosh | lo |
17:57:00 | Yokalosh | l |
17:57:19 | Yokalosh | which they also learn in year 7,8,9 and now 10 |
17:57:53 | Yokalosh | I'm in the UK anyways dude |
17:58:21 | Yokalosh | lol |
17:59:35 | Yokalosh | So, what have you hacked? |
17:59:57 | ripnetuk | in a sense, yes. I used to remove copy protection from BBC micro games in my youth |
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18:00:07 | ripnetuk | just for fun, not to distribute (much) |
18:00:20 | Yokalosh | lol, sounds fun............ |
18:01:15 | Yokalosh | I need/want to learn how to program and hack |
18:01:49 | ripnetuk | IMHO you want to get a good linux distro, and play with it... |
18:02:05 | ripnetuk | also, the new microsoft c# dev environment beta is free to download at the moment |
18:02:14 | Yokalosh | Cool |
18:02:18 | Yokalosh | i'll try |
18:02:25 | Yokalosh | I dont even know the basics though |
18:02:34 | Yokalosh | depending what counts as the basics |
18:03:31 | ripnetuk | save up some $$ and go to amazon.com and buy a good book... |
18:03:51 | ripnetuk | or download a e-book... there are loads about if you look |
18:03:54 | Quelsaruk | hmm |
18:04:02 | Yokalosh | Cool |
18:04:31 | ripnetuk | even writing vba code in m$office is coding... |
18:05:37 | Yokalosh | hmmm....... |
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18:06:45 | Yokalosh | I'm crap at stuff like this, I don't know where to start |
18:07:54 | ripnetuk | start off by recoding a macro, and doing stuff to see how code relates to actions |
18:08:32 | ripnetuk | also, try your local library (if the council havent closed it!). Look for books on programming, and pick one that suits the way your brain works |
18:09:22 | Yokalosh | Lol, in a fairly non mathematical way in my case |
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18:19:39 | Yokalosh | Bye |
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20:19:41 | amiconn | Quelsaruk: In case you want to update espanol.voice - I've updated http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceBuilding and the MakeVoices.vbs script. |
20:20:55 | amiconn | It now uses english.lang to determine the id order, so shuffled voice entries should be finally gone. There's also another small improvement for uplang |
20:23:21 | HCl | *yawns* |
20:23:44 | elinenbe | *sneezes* |
20:24:07 | HCl | bless you. |
20:24:28 | * | HCl runs around the room, looking at so many things he could be doing |
20:26:51 | * | elinenbe decides to balance on one are for the rest of the day |
20:27:41 | * | HCl decides to eat chips and turn the heating up |
20:34:45 | Quelsaruk | thanks amiconn |
20:34:53 | Quelsaruk | :D |
20:35:13 | Quelsaruk | what's the improvement for uplang? |
20:35:38 | Quelsaruk | oh |
20:35:39 | Quelsaruk | i see |
20:35:41 | Quelsaruk | :) |
20:39:49 | amiconn | Now I can actually use uplang :) |
20:44:44 | Quelsaruk | hehe |
20:44:55 | Quelsaruk | i'm doing right now espanol.voice |
20:46:39 | Quelsaruk | i added to your script the spanish dictionary for special words and the lines to use SAPI4 voices when creating espanol.voice (courtesy of Eudon). If this works ok, maybe you could check the changes and include this in your official makeVoices.vbs script :) |
20:48:57 | amiconn | Yes, that would be nice in fact. I added a paragraph concerning sharing the added replacement lists to the wiki page. |
20:50:21 | Quelsaruk | :) |
20:50:48 | Quelsaruk | we have a lot of words that need special treatment |
20:51:34 | Quelsaruk | for example byte == "bait", or firmware == "firmgu-er" |
20:51:42 | Quelsaruk | :) |
20:54:07 | amiconn | I know that. I had to do the same in german, as you might have noticed. |
20:54:25 | Quelsaruk | i noticed |
20:54:42 | Quelsaruk | but spanish function is much bigger |
20:54:43 | Quelsaruk | :) |
20:56:31 | amiconn | There are actually two kinds of replacements. (1) Something that is in fact english, and can't be pronounced correctly by the non-english tts engine. (2) Something that is correct local language, but the tts engine fails on. |
20:56:53 | amiconn | Many entries of type (2) signal a poor tts engine. |
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20:59:03 | Quelsaruk | yes |
20:59:39 | amiconn | AT&T german has 6 such entries... |
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21:00:00 | Quelsaruk | well, spanish l&h tts fails a bit with some words, but most of all are for example "mp3" or "FM"... |
21:00:30 | Quelsaruk | seems that l&h fails with single letters |
21:00:54 | Quelsaruk | the whole alphabet is written down in that function :/ |
21:01:25 | amiconn | Scary... |
21:01:32 | Quelsaruk | i know |
21:01:49 | Quelsaruk | checking my espanol.voice |
21:01:50 | amiconn | I should try and compare this with german l&h |
21:01:57 | Quelsaruk | ohhh |
21:02:04 | Quelsaruk | does not work :( |
21:02:10 | amiconn | ??? |
21:02:10 | Quelsaruk | or i made an error |
21:02:21 | Quelsaruk | or still get the same issue |
21:02:41 | Quelsaruk | it can happen that i just run the old script |
21:02:45 | Quelsaruk | let me check again |
21:02:47 | amiconn | Or ¿? |
21:03:12 | Quelsaruk | or... something else is wrong |
21:03:33 | Quelsaruk | :) |
21:04:10 | * | amiconn is quickly looking up something... |
21:04:42 | amiconn | Argl... I only changed the usage to english.lang for sapi5.... |
21:05:20 | amiconn | Please change line 259 in the script to read: |
21:05:22 | amiconn | oShell.Run "VoiceFont.exe english.lang ./ """ & sLanguage & _ |
21:05:55 | Quelsaruk | argg... |
21:06:09 | amiconn | Sorry, I overlooked this... |
21:06:14 | Quelsaruk | don't worry |
21:06:15 | Quelsaruk | :) |
21:06:25 | Quelsaruk | you see... i always find bugs |
21:06:26 | Quelsaruk | :) |
21:06:51 | amiconn | Updated in the wiki. |
21:07:49 | amiconn | Started building deutsch.voice with sapi4 voice.... |
21:08:30 | Quelsaruk | i have to wait until the scripts ends to begin again with the change |
21:08:31 | Quelsaruk | :) |
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21:09:58 | amiconn | Just break it with ctrl-c |
21:10:32 | Quelsaruk | hehe |
21:10:40 | Quelsaruk | that's if you used command line |
21:10:51 | Quelsaruk | i suppose i can find the process in the task manager |
21:10:53 | Quelsaruk | :/ |
21:11:58 | amiconn | Didn't I say "please use command line" in the wiki ;-) |
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21:15:34 | Quelsaruk | hmm |
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21:16:25 | Quelsaruk | didn't i say "opppsss... my brain is somewhere else" ? ;) |
21:19:54 | amiconn | Btw, what clip did you use for the "demo" clip in the wiki? |
21:20:34 | amiconn | I think I should add demo clips too. This is long planned, as you may have guessed from the presence of that column. |
21:20:47 | Quelsaruk | oh.. |
21:20:49 | Quelsaruk | ermm.. |
21:20:51 | Quelsaruk | demo clip |
21:21:04 | * | Quelsaruk reads quickly the wiki page so he can answer |
21:21:30 | amiconn | Ah, you used the "sound settings" clip. |
21:21:55 | amiconn | s/demo/sample/ |
21:23:56 | * | amiconn changes the script to leave a copy of this clip as sample_<voice>.mp3 |
21:26:35 | Quelsaruk | oh |
21:26:45 | Quelsaruk | i didn't know |
21:26:47 | Quelsaruk | :) |
21:27:39 | amiconn | Didn't you add this to the wiki? |
21:27:56 | Quelsaruk | was Eodun |
21:28:06 | Quelsaruk | :) |
21:28:48 | amiconn | Brrr, sapi4 voice building takes ages |
21:29:58 | Quelsaruk | i know |
21:30:23 | Quelsaruk | building with your correction |
21:30:44 | amiconn | Ooopsss... I accidentally delete my pause .wav file.... |
21:30:48 | amiconn | *deleted |
21:31:03 | Quelsaruk | hehe |
21:34:06 | HCl | *yawn* |
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21:46:28 | Quelsaruk | testing new voice |
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21:57:34 | Quelsaruk | amiconn: works |
21:57:35 | Quelsaruk | :) |
21:57:37 | Quelsaruk | dinner time |
21:57:41 | Quelsaruk | cu l8r |
21:57:45 | Quelsaruk | afk |
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22:23:55 | | Quit elinenbe (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") |
22:42:18 | Quelsaruk | back |
22:42:39 | | Quit funkymonkey (" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") |
22:43:38 | amiconn | Building german TTS3000 takes ages, needs excess compression (I had to use −−resample 8 -V 5 to make it small enough) and sounds horrible |
22:44:39 | Quelsaruk | this also sounds very bad |
22:44:55 | Quelsaruk | but not that horrible |
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22:55:03 | rasher | oh dear, the license for that hydrairc thing is pretty scary |
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23:08:55 | HCl | hydrairc? |
23:13:31 | rasher | Yup |
23:13:40 | rasher | [22:23] -:- Signoff elinenbe: #rockbox (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") |
23:13:50 | HCl | eh |
23:13:51 | HCl | okay. |
23:13:53 | HCl | o.o; |
23:13:57 | rasher | "Open Source", it says |
23:14:04 | HCl | you must be bored... to click on urls people put in quit messages o.o; |
23:14:05 | rasher | but it's more "open for examination" |
23:14:09 | HCl | aha |
23:14:22 | rasher | "You can look, but don't touch!" |
23:14:33 | HCl | well, technically its still open source |
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23:35:37 | Pieter_ | hi!... would anyone here know if it's normal for an ondio fm to run out of batteries (alkaline) after about 2 hour of recording and ten minutes of playing back? |
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23:38:09 | [av]bani | spdif spec is freely available, you just need to know where to look ;) |
23:38:35 | [av]bani | but the spec doesnt have anything to allow track names to be transmitted, hence devices which do so use some other external connector |
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23:51:20 | Eodun | hi there |
23:51:36 | Quelsaruk | hi |
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23:54:57 | Eodun | now the script works better, gonna rebuild voices (again) |
23:55:19 | Eodun | c ya! |
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