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| 00:00:49 | preglow | output/input constraints, i mean, "+whatever" ones |
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| 00:06:24 | jyp | It's not a bug |
| 00:06:24 | rasher | preglow: no shit, it's pimpalicious! |
| 00:06:24 | rasher | I especially like the leopard |
| 00:06:24 | preglow | why not? gcc never discards asm blocks that have regular output statements |
| 00:07:20 | jyp | Maybe I didn't get what you meant... |
| 00:07:47 | jyp | I mean, you need to have a non empty output list |
| 00:08:21 | preglow | it is none empty |
| 00:08:22 | preglow | : [X] "+a" (X), [yptr] "+a" (yptr) : : "d0", "d1", "d2", "d3", "d4", "d5", "d6", "d7", "a0", "a1", "a5"); |
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| 00:09:01 | preglow | non-empty |
| 00:09:01 | HCl | whats the [X] |
| 00:09:04 | HCl | hey amiconn :) |
| 00:09:08 | HCl | guess what |
| 00:09:20 | preglow | HCl: a way to not have to write %0 %1, i can write %[X] |
| 00:09:25 | HCl | ah. |
| 00:09:33 | HCl | hany. |
| 00:09:34 | HCl | handy. |
| 00:09:36 | preglow | HCl: that way i don't have to rewrite all code if i need more asm arguments |
| 00:11:36 | preglow | so, now imdct_s has the tightest bleeding code seen on this side of the planet |
| 00:11:43 | preglow | too bad imdct_l will be a hundred times worse |
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| 00:36:12 | preglow | yes, remember to increment loop iterator,yes |
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| 00:53:17 | markun | preglow: libfaad2 (aac decoder) implements mdct using fft. It'a also fixed point: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/faac/faad2/libfaad/mdct.c?rev=1.44&view=auto |
| 00:54:07 | markun | I wonder if it's faster than the mdct used by Tremor. |
| 00:56:52 | preglow | shoulnd't be too hard to find out |
| 00:57:13 | preglow | if we only had a good ifft routine provided to us by motorola, i suspect the answer would most certainly be yes |
| 00:58:24 | preglow | xiph themselves say the imdct algo in tremor has plenty room for improvement |
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| 01:00:28 | markun | Yes, that was also proven by the huge speed improvements by the guys who wrote their master thesis about Tremor on a DSP. |
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| 01:02:32 | preglow | yes, as long as you bear in mind the fact that they had near perfect optimized fft routines for their platform at hand |
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| 01:06:04 | markun | I'm also still looking into unicodifying rockbox. It works ok, but I still need to think of a way to load only part of a font. |
| 01:06:29 | preglow | haha |
| 01:06:43 | preglow | fonts getting big on you? :P |
| 01:07:39 | markun | Well, for iriver it doesn't matter too much I think. I now have a font with about 1500 glyphs 6x13 pixels which is 20kB. |
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| 01:09:39 | markun | The textviewer also works fine as long as you only use utf-8. I should make some character set convertors. |
| 01:10:03 | markun | I now only have utf16 and latin1 to utf-8 |
| 01:10:59 | markun | hi ashridah |
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| 01:12:56 | preglow | utf8 is what counts anyway :) |
| 01:15:04 | * | ashridah nods |
| 01:15:06 | markun | Yes, a lot of tags are in UTF-8 (all of the Ogg tags anyway) and converting filenames from UTF-16 to UTF-8 was easy. |
| 01:18:38 | markun | The language files also work fine after converting them to UTF-8. Do you think unicode could/should become a part of rockbox or do you think many people have no need for it? |
| 01:23:14 | * | markun should go to sleep |
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| 01:27:59 | preglow | if you happen to be reading logs, i think rockbox should have unicode unless it bogs things wayyy to much down |
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| 01:32:44 | HCl | o.o |
| 01:32:46 | HCl | hey kergoth. |
| 01:32:52 | HCl | what brings you here? |
| 01:32:53 | kergoth | heh, hey |
| 01:33:00 | kergoth | picked up an iriver h320 the other day |
| 01:33:03 | HCl | nice |
| 01:33:03 | prpplague | conversation on the h320 |
| 01:33:17 | HCl | hows oz going? |
| 01:33:49 | kergoth | moving along well. 2.6 on the clamshells is now to the point where its more usable than 2.4 (sd/mmc is more stable for example) |
| 01:33:56 | HCl | sweeet. |
| 01:34:01 | HCl | sounds like i really need to upgrade |
| 01:34:01 | HCl | heh. |
| 01:34:03 | kergoth | familiar and oz are both putting out incremental releases on a regular basis |
| 01:34:03 | HCl | :P |
| 01:34:10 | kergoth | i'd wait for 3.5.3, it releases in march here |
| 01:34:13 | HCl | ok :) |
| 01:34:15 | kergoth | will be the best release to date |
| 01:34:17 | HCl | great news :) |
| 01:34:38 | HCl | i still need to get open1x to run on my zaurus.. our entire wireless network is 802.1x... |
| 01:34:46 | HCl | its annoying cause i really need wireless on my z :x |
| 01:35:29 | kergoth | HCl: wpa-supplicant is in oe. |
| 01:35:32 | kergoth | HCl: and works with the hostap drivers |
| 01:35:43 | HCl | sweet :) |
| 01:35:54 | HCl | i used to work on an open1x port, but i hadn't gotten it to work lately |
| 01:35:58 | HCl | i'll wait for the march release :) |
| 01:36:09 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe, thats what i have to work on next week |
| 01:36:18 | prpplague | kergoth: gotta get wpa running on the m7100 |
| 01:36:43 | kergoth | heh, fun |
| 01:36:58 | HCl | what kind of network do you have..? |
| 01:37:15 | HCl | i need someone with linux that has wpa running on an ttls-pap network... |
| 01:37:31 | kergoth | i should play with wpa at work, see if i can get the sl6000 on ti's wireless |
| 01:37:56 | prpplague | HCl: initially we are gonna just support wpa-psk with tkip |
| 01:38:15 | prpplague | HCl: after thats running we are suppose to add some more options |
| 01:38:19 | HCl | :x ok. |
| 01:38:31 | HCl | i'm kind of hoping securew2 will be usable |
| 01:38:36 | HCl | they announced to go opensource a while ago. |
| 01:39:30 | HCl | ah, they went open source by now :) |
| 01:39:34 | HCl | www.securew2.org |
| 01:39:37 | HCl | er |
| 01:39:39 | HCl | i mean, .com |
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| 01:51:51 | muesli- | morning |
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| 02:00:00 | preglow | good night ;) |
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| 02:00:09 | muesli- | ;) |
| 02:03:53 | rasher | rockbox should totally be all-unicode if possible |
| 02:05:52 | ashridah | need a decent font caching system then. unicode fonts tend to be overly large |
| 02:07:45 | kergoth | using utf-8 doesnt require that you use a font that has glyphs for every codepoint in unicode. |
| 02:07:49 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:11:01 | ashridah | true. |
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| 03:03:04 | AC | hi |
| 03:03:12 | XShocK | hi |
| 03:06:22 | AC | how's the state of audioplayback? |
| 03:07:24 | XShocK | sound is playing nicely |
| 03:07:30 | ashridah | someone had straight pcm playing before |
| 03:07:41 | ashridah | doesn't mean it can play mp3s/ogg/flac yet tho |
| 03:08:04 | AC | a nice.. |
| 03:08:06 | XShocK | yes, only pcm |
| 03:08:21 | * | AC looks at m68k asm to speedup libwavpack |
| 03:08:58 | AC | when will the changes be commited to cvs? |
| 03:09:58 | XShocK | i gave it to Linus, so they will be commited soon |
| 03:10:14 | AC | fine |
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| 03:20:47 | XShocK | by the way no SRAM needed |
| 03:20:53 | XShocK | for sound buffer. |
| 03:24:43 | AC | fine |
| 03:26:06 | AC | so will go to bed now... have a nice time |
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| 03:37:28 | XShocK | I want to add a chip to i2c bus in h120. as i figured out, i don't have to do anything besides connecting it to bus lines. am i right? |
| 03:37:53 | XShocK | selected fm-radio bus lines for this purpose. |
| 03:39:38 | XShocK | as i understand the lift up resistor is 10k. will it be ok if i connect the chip through resistor without changing the 10k lift-up resistor? |
| 03:39:46 | XShocK | please, somebody.. :) |
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| 11:06:02 | Quelsaruk | morning |
| 11:06:10 | amiconn | morning |
| 11:06:14 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 11:06:15 | Strath | morning |
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| 11:06:45 | amiconn | I have a Makefile problem I don't understand :( |
| 11:07:13 | amiconn | I added a codec.h file for all codec libraries in order to fix the Win32 build |
| 11:07:42 | amiconn | While including this works fine for libmad and libwavpack, I have a problem including it for liba52 |
| 11:08:13 | amiconn | (did not yet look how to handle flac and tremor; they don't seem to have a central include file) |
| 11:09:00 | amiconn | When I add #include "codec.h" to liba52's config.h , then make, I get a strange message. "make: *** No rule to make target `typedef', needed by `/dep-liba52'. Stop." |
| 11:09:20 | amiconn | Unfortunately the depfile is not preserved, so I can't take a look at it :( |
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| 11:11:16 | Quelsaruk | hmmm |
| 11:11:30 | Quelsaruk | dunno |
| 11:11:33 | Quelsaruk | :( |
| 11:11:46 | Quelsaruk | maybe a pretty and young goat? |
| 11:12:33 | ashridah | amiconn: look at the SRC definition in the makefile in the directory in question |
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| 11:12:43 | ashridah | it should have a command you can rerun that'll dump to stdout |
| 11:13:31 | ashridah | the first line will probably end up being 'typedef' for some odd reason you'll need to pick at |
| 11:13:46 | ashridah | this is similar to the issue some people were having on macosX |
| 11:14:35 | amiconn | SRC is defined the same way as for the other codecs - preprocessed from the SOURCES file |
| 11:14:56 | amiconn | Hmm, it seems that one is to blame :( |
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| 11:15:25 | amiconn | liba52 has a config.h, but this preprocessing is supposed to use rockbox' config.h.... |
| 11:16:41 | ashridah | amiconn: yeah, but my point is that something appears to be adding something odd into the SRC definition. |
| 11:17:47 | amiconn | Yes - the preprocessing done to get the actual sources uses config.h, which uses liba52's config.h because of the same name - and that one now includes my codec.h, which in turn includes sys/types.h, which contains some typedefs.... |
| 11:18:12 | amiconn | Imho the only solution is to rename liba52's config.h |
| 11:20:49 | amiconn | That's it! Thanks! |
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| 12:13:22 | HCl | yawn. |
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| 12:17:49 | * | HCl stares at the unreadable gnuboy code of death. |
| 12:18:47 | ashridah | heh |
| 12:18:52 | preglow | i wonder if i should try optimizing imdct_l today |
| 12:19:10 | preglow | libmad should be well above realtime then |
| 12:20:46 | amiconn | preglow: I hope your optimisations are selected via a #define. Otherwise building libmad in the simulator will get tricky... |
| 12:21:23 | preglow | amiconn: yes, i suppose i'll do that eventually |
| 12:21:30 | preglow | they aren't in cvs yet anyway |
| 12:21:30 | jyp | also porting to gmini is a concern |
| 12:21:58 | jyp | at least for me :P |
| 12:22:19 | preglow | haha |
| 12:22:26 | preglow | my optimizations are huge asm blocks |
| 12:22:28 | preglow | so good luck |
| 12:22:34 | muesli- | hi btw |
| 12:22:46 | ashridah | hope they're usefully documented |
| 12:22:58 | preglow | i don't think theres any way of utilizing the parallel load any other way |
| 12:22:59 | jyp | I wasn't thinking of porting your asm code; |
| 12:23:13 | preglow | without writing a gcc intrinsic, and looking at the gcc source code gives me headaches |
| 12:23:15 | HCl | isn't A=A-A; the same as A=0 ? |
| 12:23:30 | preglow | HCl: yes |
| 12:23:36 | HCl | ok. |
| 12:23:39 | jyp | but ability to rely on old C code |
| 12:23:41 | preglow | HCl: that's the way to zero a address register fast |
| 12:23:42 | HCl | just making sure whether i'm not really stupid |
| 12:23:43 | HCl | or so. |
| 12:23:48 | preglow | HCl: since clr doesn't do address regs |
| 12:23:52 | HCl | okay. |
| 12:23:59 | HCl | but sub does address regs? |
| 12:24:12 | preglow | yes |
| 12:24:15 | preglow | i use that trick myself |
| 12:24:17 | HCl | okay. |
| 12:24:20 | preglow | in imdct_s opt |
| 12:24:38 | preglow | ashridah: they're adequately documented :P |
| 12:25:02 | ashridah | holy sweet bejesus i'm lagged |
| 12:25:20 | preglow | III_imdct_s in http://glow.m0f0.net/rockbox/layer3.c for a nice example |
| 12:25:45 | HCl | hm. |
| 12:25:47 | preglow | it's not pretty, but should be very fast |
| 12:26:44 | HCl | yea, okay |
| 12:26:52 | HCl | i was mostly asking cause the gameboy code is doing it |
| 12:27:00 | HCl | and gnuboy is actually. well. computing it. |
| 12:27:05 | HCl | when it really doesn't have to. |
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| 12:28:23 | amiconn | Hmm. With my malloc -> codec_malloc etc changes, all of mad, tremor, a52 and vorbis work on the cygwin-built simulator |
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| 12:29:05 | amiconn | (apart from the non-working file seek, so I had to move the correct .wav header to the front) |
| 12:29:13 | amiconn | For some reason I couldn't make .wv work from viewers.config |
| 12:29:28 | amiconn | The native win32 simulator still has problems... |
| 12:30:16 | amiconn | AH, I |
| 12:30:26 | ashridah | is it just me, or does the coldfire programming reference manual not state the cycle count of instructions? |
| 12:30:29 | amiconn | 'm silly. Wrote .vw instead of .wv |
| 12:33:23 | preglow | ashridah: it does |
| 12:33:44 | amiconn | Hmm. Could someone please try wavpack in the simulator? I get a "crc errors detected" message... |
| 12:33:45 | preglow | that is, not that one |
| 12:33:57 | preglow | you need the mcf5249 manual |
| 12:34:08 | ashridah | ah |
| 12:34:09 | amiconn | (With t1.wv provided by AC that is) |
| 12:34:18 | preglow | no |
| 12:34:25 | preglow | i mean the coldfire2um.pdf one |
| 12:34:29 | preglow | chapter nine |
| 12:34:57 | ashridah | aaah. |
| 12:34:59 | ashridah | i see |
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| 12:36:55 | preglow | damn, the mac instructions are blessedly fast |
| 12:37:21 | ashridah | probably a good thing |
| 12:37:46 | preglow | 32x32 bit multiply, accumulate AND parallel move in 4 cycles isn't too shabby |
| 12:38:13 | ashridah | well. how fast is that in non-mac asm? |
| 12:38:34 | preglow | extremely slow, you'd need to muls, two adds, probably a couple of moves and then another move |
| 12:38:40 | preglow | two muls |
| 12:38:50 | preglow | a mul alone is three cycles |
| 12:41:33 | * | ashridah wanders off to record another 2 hours of music off satellite tv. >:) |
| 12:44:22 | * | HCl sighs. |
| 12:44:31 | HCl | i can't stand undocumented code |
| 12:44:40 | HCl | ^ is xor in C, right? |
| 12:45:01 | amiconn | HCl: I read in yday's log that dynarec is working now? |
| 12:45:11 | amiconn | Yes, ^ == xor |
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| 12:51:22 | HCl | amiconn: it is, i just need to encode the z80 opcodes properly |
| 12:51:35 | HCl | and some gnuboy code is absolutely horrid. |
| 12:53:07 | amiconn | (z80 opcodes) Ah, yes. (gnuboy code) What code are you talking about, and why is it horrid? |
| 12:53:30 | HCl | let me paste. |
| 12:53:38 | HCl | #define CP(n) { \ |
| 12:53:39 | HCl | W(acc) = (un16)A - (un16)(n); \ |
| 12:53:39 | HCl | F = FN | FZ |
| 12:53:39 | HCl | | (ZFLAG(LB(acc))) \ |
| 12:53:39 | HCl | | (FH & ( (A ^ ( n ) ^ LB(acc) ) << 1)) \ |
| 12:53:41 | HCl | | ((un8)(-(n8)HB(acc)) << 4); } |
| 12:53:49 | ashridah | o. |
| 12:53:52 | ashridah | o.O even |
| 12:53:58 | HCl | see what i mean :X |
| 12:54:03 | amiconn | Ah, the flag stuff. |
| 12:54:10 | ashridah | i might suggest i've seen worse. barely. |
| 12:54:27 | HCl | yea, i'm reading about flags on my datasheet thing. |
| 12:54:37 | ashridah | some weird recursive expanding macros in the linux kernel sourcecode a while back that were mindnumbing to consider |
| 12:55:03 | HCl | it seems that the BCD flags are only used if the next instruction is a DAA instruction. |
| 12:55:16 | HCl | so i can get away with just setting the zero and carry flag |
| 12:55:23 | HCl | and detecting whether the next instruction is a DAA |
| 12:55:27 | HCl | i think. |
| 12:55:43 | amiconn | Yes, the bcd flags are only used by DAA, but it may happen that DAA is not the next instructions |
| 12:55:52 | amiconn | *next instruction |
| 12:55:55 | HCl | hm. |
| 12:55:56 | HCl | really..? |
| 12:56:18 | amiconn | There may be instructions in between that don't touch the flags |
| 12:56:29 | HCl | bah. |
| 12:56:43 | * | HCl scratches his head. |
| 12:56:43 | HCl | well. |
| 12:56:56 | HCl | bah. |
| 12:56:57 | HCl | :( |
| 12:57:45 | HCl | i don't suppose you could explain how i should set FH |
| 12:58:07 | HCl | well meh, nevermind, i'll come across this later. |
| 12:58:14 | HCl | for now, i know what i need to set flags to.. |
| 12:58:17 | HCl | thanks :X |
| 12:58:51 | amiconn | There is a table that defines the BCD flag states depending on the register value |
| 12:59:07 | amiconn | I think using that table is the fastest solution |
| 12:59:56 | HCl | there is? where? |
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| 13:02:29 | amiconn | cpucore.h: daa_table |
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| 13:02:48 | HCl | odd, i wonder why its not being used in the interpreter |
| 13:02:54 | amiconn | ..and daa_carry_table |
| 13:03:28 | amiconn | I'm not sure how these are to be used correctly, but it seems the i386 asm implementation uses them |
| 13:03:35 | HCl | hrm. |
| 13:04:01 | amiconn | Another think I wonder is how dynarec is supposed to handle conditional jumps |
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| 13:05:31 | HCl | easy. |
| 13:05:37 | HCl | but i'm not there yet. |
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| 13:37:59 | AC | hello |
| 13:38:09 | markun | AC: hi |
| 13:38:49 | markun | I'm having problems with my cross-compiler on FreeBSD :( It works fine on a remote linux account. |
| 13:39:02 | AC | has somebody a good starting point for m68k asm - i want to optimize libwavpack |
| 13:40:43 | preglow | AC: do you know any other assembly languages? |
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| 13:42:14 | AC | preglow: i have done somemmx and sse asm for x86 |
| 13:44:12 | preglow | i know x86 and 6502 asm, i picked up 68k asm pretty quickly from the reference manuals alone |
| 13:44:41 | preglow | i can't see any obvious opt canidates in libwavpack |
| 13:44:45 | preglow | have you profiled it? |
| 13:45:36 | AC | not yet, but i want to do it today |
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| 13:45:52 | preglow | yes, that would be wise |
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| 13:45:57 | preglow | replace as little as possible with asm |
| 13:46:19 | preglow | if you find any hotspots, let me know, i might be able to give you some pointers |
| 13:47:47 | AC | thanks |
| 13:49:15 | amiconn | HCl: I just had an idea for further dynarec optimisation (of course after your first version is working): |
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| 13:50:07 | amiconn | Instead of loading & saving the whole z80 context before/after every block, the dynamic compiler could track which z80 registers are actually used during compilation of the block. |
| 13:50:42 | HCl | yea |
| 13:50:43 | amiconn | Then it would add the appropriate context load/store at the beginning/end of the block |
| 13:51:10 | HCl | the problem is that then you can't do the optimization of not having to recompile blocks while in the middle of a block |
| 13:51:21 | HCl | when jumping into the middle of a block |
| 13:51:32 | amiconn | Ah, yes. |
| 13:51:36 | HCl | if you keep all registers consistant with the gameboy regs, thats possible to do |
| 13:52:09 | amiconn | But if you want to do this, you have to find the address within the block that corresponds with the z80 address |
| 13:52:11 | HCl | eventually, i'm gonna have to want to swap context only when needing to recompile |
| 13:52:26 | HCl | thats not too hard to do. the dynarec can do that along the way |
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| 13:53:09 | HCl | but yea, it'd require an array of 0x7fff pointers |
| 13:53:23 | amiconn | Hmm. You would need an array that stores which z80 address corresponds to which block address. I guess you'll need that anyway though |
| 13:53:54 | amiconn | That array may get very large - or do you have another method how to deal with rom bank switching? |
| 13:54:08 | HCl | nop |
| 13:54:26 | HCl | for now, i'm just focusing on getting it to work |
| 13:54:32 | preglow | but linux |
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| 13:56:47 | amiconn | Iiuc the problem is that you must consider rom bank switching even without allowing jumps into a block. You need to keep track for each compiled block to with z80 address *in which bank* it corresponds. |
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| 13:56:57 | amiconn | How do you intend to handle this? |
| 13:58:17 | HCl | not, at the moment o.o |
| 13:58:33 | HCl | i haven't really looked at rom bank switching yet |
| 13:58:55 | amiconn | Hmm, okay. |
| 13:59:01 | amiconn | (away now) |
| 13:59:03 | * | AC gets hand dirty with libmusepack |
| 13:59:32 | HCl | but you're right. |
| 13:59:34 | HCl | hm. |
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| 14:00:46 | HCl | i need to keep account of different rom banks from addresses 4000-7fff |
| 14:01:34 | ashridah | hurray for 16 bit addressing |
| 14:01:44 | HCl | m? |
| 14:02:01 | pillo | can somebody explain me why memset() expects an "int c" as the filler value, even though it uses it as a byte? why not declare it "unsigned char"? |
| 14:02:52 | preglow | it's not important |
| 14:03:00 | preglow | all memsets do that |
| 14:03:09 | ashridah | pillo: it's 'standard'[tm] |
| 14:03:28 | preglow | on most machines, an int has a lot less latency involved than a byte |
| 14:03:41 | preglow | so you should only use bytes if space is an issue |
| 14:04:08 | pillo | preglow: yep, but that was confusing me- i thought it was used as 4 bytes (too used to x86;) |
| 14:05:04 | HCl | amiconn: yea, you're right, i need to get PC through the address/rombank translation first before dynareccing |
| 14:05:22 | preglow | i certainly hope dynarec ends up being a lot faster, heh |
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| 14:09:04 | HCl | to be honest, i have no clue |
| 14:10:10 | preglow | coldfire might be a special case |
| 14:10:19 | preglow | the ram is shit slow, and you need to use it _a lot_ |
| 14:10:26 | HCl | yup |
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| 14:18:05 | HCl | i think that moving the selected bank into that fast ram would help, if it wasn't for the problem of how to switch them back and forth |
| 14:27:16 | HCl | its appalling how badly readable the lcd of the iriver is without backlight |
| 14:27:37 | preglow | it isn't very good however you look at it |
| 14:27:49 | preglow | it handles motion poorly |
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| 14:33:04 | CoCoLUS | turn on the backlight? :) |
| 14:34:37 | * | HCl 's linked list implementation is failing for some unknown reason |
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| 14:36:32 | ashridah | doesn't rockbox already have utility data structures like that? |
| 14:37:02 | HCl | hm? |
| 14:37:12 | ashridah | linked lists. |
| 14:37:28 | HCl | you mean a struct ll { void *data; struct ll *next; } thing |
| 14:37:30 | HCl | ? |
| 14:38:04 | * | HCl knows his flaw. |
| 14:38:56 | nobby | any progress on the audio driver since the sine wave tests? |
| 14:38:58 | HCl | bug in my malloc thing. |
| 14:40:16 | preglow | nobby: we've got sound, that's thta |
| 14:40:19 | HCl | nobby: as far as i know it now plays wav |
| 14:40:27 | nobby | cool |
| 14:40:41 | nobby | and the mp3 and ogg codecs? |
| 14:40:45 | nobby | how are they? |
| 14:41:20 | HCl | too slow. |
| 14:41:29 | HCl | hmm. how fast is the flash ram compared to the normal ram? |
| 14:41:40 | preglow | HCl: it's faster |
| 14:41:43 | HCl | could it be our codecs are simply too slow cause their code is in ram rather than flash? |
| 14:41:46 | HCl | oh. |
| 14:41:48 | HCl | :/ |
| 14:41:49 | preglow | HCl: and it's flash rom, not ram |
| 14:41:51 | HCl | ok |
| 14:41:55 | HCl | yea. well. |
| 14:41:58 | HCl | hrm. |
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| 14:42:04 | HCl | i don't actually call flash read only memory |
| 14:42:10 | HCl | since its far from read only |
| 14:42:18 | ashridah | nobby: the codecs need many weeks of optimisation before they're >100% realtime. then the buffering and streaming needs to be designed adequately. it's not going to happen overnight. |
| 14:42:19 | preglow | well, but calling it ram is misleading |
| 14:42:26 | HCl | yea |
| 14:42:30 | HCl | its not random access either. |
| 14:42:34 | HCl | writing |
| 14:42:35 | preglow | but yes |
| 14:42:35 | HCl | at least |
| 14:42:36 | HCl | o.o |
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| 14:42:39 | ashridah | particularly when the people doing development have lives and jobs |
| 14:42:40 | nobby | ok, fair enough |
| 14:42:42 | preglow | some mp3 and flac are realtime now, i guess |
| 14:42:44 | preglow | but just barely |
| 14:42:46 | * | nobby goes back to idling |
| 14:43:00 | nobby | thanks for the heads uop |
| 14:43:02 | nobby | *up |
| 14:43:07 | ashridah | nobby: best way to keep track is to peruse the irc logs and the cvs logs (if you're technically inclined) and watch the wiki |
| 14:43:18 | ashridah | but yeah, lots of work to do :) |
| 14:43:36 | webguest23 | hello, I got a error during install CVS binutils -> "msgfmt: not found" - could someone help me ? |
| 14:43:55 | nobby | i keep an eye on the main page of the site for cvs updates, but they dont exactly say "ok, [thing] works but its crap because of [non-techy explaination]" |
| 14:44:19 | nobby | i'll post this in the iriver subforum to keep the others updated |
| 14:44:35 | ashridah | i'm not exactly authoritative. |
| 14:44:41 | ashridah | there's still lots of technical issues to work out |
| 14:45:35 | ashridah | lots of things that rockbox has never had to deal with before |
| 14:46:38 | nobby | i understand |
| 14:46:52 | nobby | what do the chips that currently lack drivers do? |
| 14:47:02 | nobby | Quote |
| 14:47:02 | nobby | I2C driver 50% Writing to I2C done |
| 14:47:02 | nobby | I2S driver 10% Basic I2S output, but not interrupt-based yet |
| 14:47:02 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK nobby |
| 14:47:02 | nobby | SPI driver 0% |
| 14:47:02 | nobby | Remote LCD driver (SPI) 0% |
| 14:47:03 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 14:47:03 | nobby | Audio ADC/DAC driver 10% UDA1380 Initialization and basic control done (volume control, muting etc) |
| 14:48:51 | HCl | thats out of date. |
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| 14:48:54 | HCl | check the wiki. |
| 14:49:04 | ashridah | nobby: i2c and i2s are command and streaming busses (as i understand them). you use them for talking to other devices and streaming data (such as audio). i'm guessing SPI is serial peripheral interface (iirc, the remote is connected via this). |
| 14:49:06 | ashridah | afaik, audio is 100% |
| 14:49:10 | rasher | no |
| 14:49:13 | HCl | no, not 100% at all. |
| 14:49:15 | HCl | no spdif |
| 14:49:16 | HCl | no recording |
| 14:49:17 | rasher | no recording |
| 14:49:20 | rasher | :) |
| 14:49:21 | ashridah | ah |
| 14:49:24 | ashridah | hm. true |
| 14:49:35 | nobby | but headphone out is 100%? :) |
| 14:49:41 | HCl | pretty much, yes |
| 14:49:46 | HCl | as far as i know |
| 14:49:57 | nobby | good to hear |
| 14:50:24 | nobby | and is the amount of optimization needed definitly possible? |
| 14:50:42 | ashridah | nobby: well, the iriver does it. means it can be done |
| 14:50:56 | ashridah | another device with the same cpu can do flac too, so that's clearly possible |
| 14:51:18 | nobby | what about .SID? :D |
| 14:51:33 | ashridah | someone's workign on that (or was it midi? i forget) |
| 14:51:38 | ashridah | but there are other challenges there |
| 14:51:42 | HCl | yup |
| 14:51:45 | HCl | like the gameboy emu :P |
| 14:52:06 | nobby | i would if i could figure out how to compile the bootloader |
| 14:52:08 | preglow | sid is going to be tricky |
| 14:52:20 | preglow | you need a very high precision 6510 emulator for it to work properly |
| 14:52:26 | preglow | the resid core can be used as it is |
| 14:52:43 | nobby | anyone here want to put a flash together and send me it? i'll host it for anyonw wanting it after that (i know youre all scared of legal stuff) |
| 14:52:55 | HCl | sure. hold on. |
| 14:52:58 | nobby | thanks |
| 14:53:13 | nobby | i want to show off playing rockboy |
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| 14:55:09 | preglow | hahah |
| 14:55:12 | preglow | you can't play it yet :PP |
| 14:55:18 | nobby | why not? |
| 14:55:23 | preglow | it's incredibly slow |
| 14:55:39 | nobby | yeah, but i can still show it off in slow motion, cant i? |
| 14:55:45 | preglow | sure |
| 14:55:46 | preglow | heh |
| 14:55:59 | HCl | here |
| 14:55:59 | preglow | it's just very, very slow motion |
| 14:56:09 | HCl | its on your own risk, no clue whether it works. |
| 14:56:16 | HCl | ftp://titania.student.utwente.nl/ihp_120.hex |
| 14:56:36 | nobby | i assume thats a 120/140 flash (120 and 140 use the same flash) |
| 14:56:39 | nobby | yes? |
| 14:56:41 | HCl | current bootloader built from cvs against iriver eu 1.63 |
| 14:56:47 | HCl | yea. |
| 14:56:49 | nobby | k |
| 14:57:04 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 14:57:09 | nobby | i take it i need the .rockbox folder etc as well? |
| 14:57:18 | rasher | yup |
| 14:57:22 | nobby | how do i get all that stuff from the cvs under windows? |
| 14:57:23 | rasher | or it'll just boot iRiver |
| 14:57:25 | preglow | eh |
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| 14:57:32 | preglow | HCl: you really should use the wiki bootloader |
| 14:57:37 | rasher | just grab a snapshot |
| 14:57:49 | preglow | i don't think anyone has tested the cvs bootloader in a while |
| 14:57:57 | rasher | I did yesterday :) |
| 14:58:19 | preglow | ait |
| 14:58:20 | nobby | http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h100/rockbox-h100-20050226.zip |
| 14:58:24 | nobby | you mean this? |
| 14:58:30 | rasher | something like that, yes |
| 14:58:43 | nobby | something like? youre confusing me.... |
| 14:59:13 | rasher | Sorry, yes, that's right |
| 14:59:20 | nobby | ok, thanks |
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| 15:00:04 | ashridah | rasher: that's actually a little dangerous. |
| 15:00:06 | rasher | HCl: you have the same md5sum as me, fwiw |
| 15:00:14 | HCl | fwiw? |
| 15:00:17 | rasher | ashridah: what is? |
| 15:00:17 | nobby | if this kills my iriver, do you recon linus would rescue it it with his bdm thing, if i sent it to him (and payed to ship it back) |
| 15:00:19 | ashridah | rasher: the rockbox code for the loaded firmware and the bootloader share a lot of code. |
| 15:00:27 | nobby | whats dangerous? O_O |
| 15:00:30 | rasher | HCl: for what it's worth |
| 15:00:33 | HCl | ah. |
| 15:00:38 | ashridah | using current cvs for the bootloader. |
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| 15:00:55 | rasher | I don't follow |
| 15:01:01 | ashridah | nobby: dangerous is using untested code |
| 15:01:05 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:01:16 | HCl | pff, you people have no feel for adventure :P |
| 15:01:16 | nobby | then could someone zip up a known working .rockbox directory and send me it? |
| 15:01:31 | HCl | nobby: daily build should be fine |
| 15:01:33 | nobby | I LIKE MY IRIRVER TO LIVE HCL YOU BASTARD :P |
| 15:01:39 | HCl | :P |
| 15:01:39 | ashridah | nobby: the .rockbox directory isn't the problem |
| 15:01:43 | nobby | ok, daily build it is... |
| 15:01:50 | HCl | fine. i'll get the bootloader off the site then. |
| 15:01:52 | ashridah | you can replace that using the original firmware if you have to |
| 15:01:55 | rasher | ashridah: Why would using current cvs for the bootloader be particularly dangerous? |
| 15:02:16 | ashridah | rasher: okay. we've been posting changes to the code, which aren't being verified to work with the bootloader. |
| 15:02:37 | ashridah | the firmware and the bootloader share quite a bit of the basic rockbox library |
| 15:02:47 | rasher | oh, like that |
| 15:03:13 | rasher | Guess I got lucky |
| 15:03:18 | ashridah | yeah. so using cvs bootloader when it's using code that hasn't been verfied to work with the bootloader could lead to a brick. |
| 15:03:35 | ashridah | if the firmware works, it's not likely, but it's also not certain |
| 15:03:44 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 15:03:44 | * | HCl yawns |
| 15:03:46 | nobby | HCl, have you tried the build you made for me? |
| 15:03:52 | ashridah | it's probably safer to let linus sanction a release of bootloader.bin occasionally. |
| 15:04:18 | HCl | nobby: nop, let me build one of the bootloader on the wiki |
| 15:04:23 | nobby | ok, thanks |
| 15:04:36 | pillo | ok guys, I have prepared a patch that adds proportional text support to the viewer plugin. Does somebody want to test it? Or should I submit it to the sf tracker? |
| 15:04:48 | preglow | HCl: is the bootloader in wiki capable of loading rockboy? |
| 15:05:06 | preglow | pillo: try buggin amiconn |
| 15:05:21 | ashridah | preglow: would that matter? |
| 15:05:37 | preglow | ashridah: well, yes, if he wants to try rockboy :) |
| 15:06:48 | nobby | gtg, /msg me with whatever you decide and i'll be back in a few |
| 15:07:09 | ashridah | preglow: well, i was under the assumption that the firmware would be able to do whatever it likes, regardless of what state the bootloader is in |
| 15:07:22 | ashridah | since the firmware would probably make no assumptions about the state of anything |
| 15:07:30 | HCl | there. |
| 15:07:32 | HCl | preglow: yes |
| 15:07:42 | HCl | bootloader has nothing to do with rockboy |
| 15:08:08 | preglow | ashridah: and you would be correct in assuming that, disregard me |
| 15:08:13 | HCl | but current rockbox won't load rockboy since rockboy requires mkdir to be added to the plugin api |
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| 15:19:12 | pillo | I submitted the text viewer patch to the SourceForge tracker. |
| 15:19:29 | pillo | Let me know if you like it, gotta get back to business... |
| 15:22:33 | * | HCl flashes the new bootloader and gets reminded of how much he hates to flash things |
| 15:22:49 | * | nobby is back |
| 15:22:53 | nobby | is it working? |
| 15:23:09 | HCl | yea |
| 15:23:12 | HCl | its a heck of a lot faster too |
| 15:23:21 | preglow | i'll go and catch some sunlight |
| 15:23:22 | nobby | so i should use the first one you uploaded? |
| 15:23:30 | HCl | no, redownload |
| 15:23:32 | nobby | ok |
| 15:23:36 | HCl | this one is the confirmed to be working one |
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| 15:32:06 | nobby | flashing now.... |
| 15:32:19 | nobby | just checked the hd5, and im going to disconnect and flash |
| 15:32:31 | | Part amiconn |
| 15:33:55 | nobby | flash in progress... |
| 15:34:15 | * | ashridah waits for the unearthly scream |
| 15:34:34 | nobby | i'll have to run crying to linus if it dies |
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| 15:34:42 | nobby | powering back on after flash... |
| 15:35:10 | nobby | oooooh |
| 15:35:20 | nobby | someone;s been fiddling with the images :P |
| 15:35:29 | nobby | in the regular firmware |
| 15:35:45 | nobby | that works anwaya |
| 15:35:52 | nobby | now to try to get rockbox to load |
| 15:36:00 | nobby | i hold record to do that, yes? |
| 15:36:22 | nobby | rockbox doesnt want to load... |
| 15:36:35 | nobby | keeps loading official fiormware |
| 15:36:44 | ashridah | no |
| 15:36:47 | ashridah | rockbox loads by default |
| 15:36:52 | ashridah | hold record to load the original firmware |
| 15:37:03 | nobby | it wont load rockbox |
| 15:37:13 | nobby | my first attempt at booking i held nothing |
| 15:37:46 | ashridah | did you uncompress the nightly build into the root, creating a .rockbox directory? |
| 15:37:57 | nobby | yes |
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| 15:38:29 | nobby | it said something like "loading rockbox" and on the next line something like "result:-t" |
| 15:38:38 | nobby | but for like .5 of a second |
| 15:38:47 | nobby | then it loads original |
| 15:39:04 | | Nick R3nTiL_ is now known as R3nTiL (~zorroz@83.69.98.59) |
| 15:39:07 | nobby | ah, its "result:-1" |
| 15:39:28 | Renko | sounds like it cant find rockbox.iriver (?) |
| 15:39:37 | nobby | ok, i'm a dumbass |
| 15:39:39 | ashridah | odd. not an error message i've seen. and i'm not in a position to poke through the bootloading code to see where it coems from |
| 15:39:47 | nobby | i thought that was what was combined to make the flash |
| 15:39:55 | nobby | i dont have rockbox.iriver on it >_< |
| 15:40:13 | nobby | no problem |
| 15:40:15 | * | nobby adds |
| 15:40:15 | Renko | should be in the zip that you unzipped in the root |
| 15:40:18 | nobby | it is |
| 15:40:22 | ashridah | didn't i just tell you you need to unpack a nightly into it? |
| 15:40:22 | Renko | ahh ;) |
| 15:40:33 | nobby | look, im a dumbass, ok? :P |
| 15:40:44 | | Nick nobby is now known as nobby_isadumbass (nobby@ACD5B61C.ipt.aol.com) |
| 15:40:44 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK nobby_isadumbass |
| 15:40:48 | nobby_isadumbass | better? |
| 15:40:48 | nobby_isadumbass | :P |
| 15:41:04 | ashridah | i think it needs to be in capitals. |
| 15:41:14 | | Nick nobby_isadumbass is now known as nobby_ISADUMBASS (nobby@ACD5B61C.ipt.aol.com) |
| 15:41:14 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK nobby_ISADUMBASS |
| 15:41:36 | ashridah | yeah |
| 15:41:55 | ashridah | so, it's booting now? |
| 15:42:11 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | im trying now |
| 15:42:22 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | my pc takes ages to safely remove hardware |
| 15:42:36 | ashridah | odd. |
| 15:42:42 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | it booted :D |
| 15:42:57 | ashridah | in the rare instances where i use windows, i just left click on the usb tray icon, select the drive to remove, and it's done |
| 15:43:41 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | mine takes a few seconds to work |
| 15:43:46 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | it need reformatted |
| 15:44:20 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | its working great |
| 15:44:51 | ashridah | you have an interesting definition of 'work' |
| 15:44:52 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | i'll post a mini-tutorial for other dipshit windows users on the fourm (with plenty of warnings) |
| 15:45:06 | ashridah | nobby_ISADUMBASS: there's really not that much point. |
| 15:45:08 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | ok, the bouncing text plugin works :P |
| 15:45:09 | ashridah | not yet anyway |
| 15:45:50 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | yeah, but they have been asking, might as well let them have their fun |
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| 15:46:16 | ashridah | no, their fun's likely to just create the first brick |
| 15:46:26 | | Part webguest62 |
| 15:47:00 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | ok, ok |
| 15:47:08 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | no bricks |
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| 15:47:26 | * | nobby_ISADUMBASS sits and stares at bouncing rockbox logo |
| 15:47:31 | nobby_ISADUMBASS | oooooooooooooooooooooh |
| 15:47:46 | | Nick nobby_ISADUMBASS is now known as nobby_ISEASILYAM (nobby@ACD5B61C.ipt.aol.com) |
| 15:47:46 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK nobby_ISEASILYAM |
| 15:47:46 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 15:47:50 | nobby_ISEASILYAM | argh |
| 15:47:54 | nobby_ISEASILYAM | character limit |
| 15:47:56 | | Nick nobby_ISEASILYAM is now known as nobby (nobby@ACD5B61C.ipt.aol.com) |
| 15:47:56 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK nobby |
| 15:47:56 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 15:47:56 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 102 |
| 15:48:01 | nobby | back to the idling |
| 15:48:20 | ashridah | play stars and rocktris |
| 15:48:52 | nobby | what does battery test do? |
| 15:49:07 | nobby | and how do i make it stop! |
| 15:49:30 | ashridah | i don't remember, and there's a reset hole on the bottom of the device :) |
| 15:49:36 | nobby | lol |
| 15:49:43 | nobby | its accessing the hard drive though |
| 15:49:51 | ashridah | yeah. |
| 15:49:51 | nobby | i think its trying to waste battery and time it |
| 15:49:54 | ashridah | it's a battery test |
| 15:50:00 | ashridah | it tests the battery |
| 15:50:04 | HCl | doh. |
| 15:50:07 | HCl | i'm stupid. |
| 15:50:14 | ashridah | not all of the plugins are finished yet |
| 15:50:16 | nobby | i dont want to test the battery any more! |
| 15:50:21 | nobby | ah, it stopped |
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| 15:51:27 | nobby | sokoban works, but is tiny |
| 15:51:44 | ashridah | yeah. not all of them have been modified to scale |
| 15:52:08 | nobby | its impressive how much does work, though |
| 15:52:12 | HCl | yea, its on the todo list |
| 15:54:13 | nobby | do any games support saving progress? sokkoban doesnt seem to |
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| 15:56:15 | ashridah | they could in theory |
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| 16:00:07 | nobby | is it jsut me or is cube distorted? |
| 16:00:26 | preglow | it's not |
| 16:00:34 | preglow | it's perspective corrected, if that's what you mean |
| 16:00:42 | ashridah | it's not like the lines are anti-aliased :) |
| 16:00:56 | preglow | with the slow display on the h1x0, it looks like it is :) |
| 16:01:09 | nobby | yeah, looking at it from a distance its cool |
| 16:01:29 | nobby | you just need to work out which side is which |
| 16:01:35 | ashridah | although when we move the display to 2bit greyscale, we'll be able to antialias it :) |
| 16:01:41 | preglow | sur3 |
| 16:01:43 | ashridah | >:) |
| 16:02:12 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 10 seconds at the last flood |
| 16:02:12 | * | preglow ponders on porting doom |
| 16:02:27 | nobby | it better by better than Mdoom on my phone :P |
| 16:02:30 | nobby | *be |
| 16:02:46 | preglow | ahh, think of the possibilites with the colour screen of h3x0 |
| 16:02:58 | preglow | if it can play xvids, then hell, it can do doom |
| 16:03:05 | nobby | port milkdrop and avs from winamp :P |
| 16:03:09 | preglow | hahaha |
| 16:03:10 | preglow | that would rock |
| 16:03:14 | nobby | rock the box |
| 16:03:16 | preglow | i miss milkdrop |
| 16:03:17 | preglow | isntant acid trip |
| 16:03:23 | nobby | miss it? |
| 16:03:29 | nobby | theres a linux port |
| 16:03:30 | preglow | i don't use winamp any more |
| 16:03:35 | nobby | well, reimplimentaion |
| 16:03:40 | preglow | cool |
| 16:03:41 | preglow | name? |
| 16:03:46 | nobby | projectM |
| 16:03:46 | ashridah | please. someone ported a version of doom1 to the TI 90 series of graphing calculator |
| 16:03:52 | ashridah | if that can play doom, anything can |
| 16:04:06 | nobby | I need a TI90 to play in maths... |
| 16:04:26 | preglow | what ti90 ? |
| 16:04:29 | * | preglow strokes his ti89 |
| 16:05:14 | nobby | does the iriver hardware allow a real EQ or is it bass and treble ajustment for life? |
| 16:05:57 | ashridah | nobby: assuming one can cram it into what will probably be 96MHz max, sure. |
| 16:06:17 | nobby | erm |
| 16:06:26 | nobby | "debug (keep out)" |
| 16:06:45 | nobby | i assume i should not under any circumstances click the button on that |
| 16:06:49 | nobby | correct? |
| 16:07:10 | rasher | it's just useless (to most) information |
| 16:07:13 | ashridah | you can poke, but it's not really going to give you useful info |
| 16:07:14 | preglow | nobby: i'll fix up an eq once the audio is up and going |
| 16:07:24 | nobby | ok |
| 16:07:27 | preglow | nobby: feel free to suggest features for this eq, i don't use them myself |
| 16:07:38 | nobby | 10 band or so |
| 16:07:42 | preglow | are you mad? |
| 16:07:42 | preglow | hahah |
| 16:07:48 | preglow | well, ok |
| 16:07:50 | preglow | parametric? |
| 16:07:54 | nobby | why not? |
| 16:08:02 | nobby | whats parametric? |
| 16:08:14 | preglow | you decide frequency and bandwidth of each band |
| 16:08:21 | preglow | and gain, of course |
| 16:08:24 | nobby | ooh, sounds good |
| 16:08:50 | preglow | well, i'm just wondering, seeing as how i don't use eqs when i listen to music myself, i don't know what people prefer |
| 16:08:57 | nobby | is anyone currently working on supporting a grapihical WPS? |
| 16:09:05 | preglow | what _is_ a graphical wps? |
| 16:09:34 | nobby | one with a bitmapped progressbar and some nifty peakmeters :D |
| 16:10:10 | ashridah | nobby: again, someone probably will, if you can cram it into 96MHz |
| 16:10:48 | nobby | could we try to overclock it? >:D |
| 16:11:00 | preglow | it can't even run at full clock |
| 16:11:05 | nobby | how come? |
| 16:11:12 | preglow | it gets too hot during hd accesses |
| 16:11:30 | preglow | at least, that's our current theory |
| 16:11:39 | preglow | linus is working on it now |
| 16:11:44 | nobby | WE NEED HUGE HEATSINKS AND FANS! SOMEONE CALL UP THERMALRIGHT! :D |
| 16:11:58 | preglow | we could replace the disk with a heatsink |
| 16:12:18 | preglow | it'd be killer for rockboy |
| 16:12:45 | nobby | ROFL |
| 16:12:51 | nobby | brilliant |
| 16:15:38 | ashridah | arghl. 2am. sleep |
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| 16:35:44 | * | rasher . o ( with someone wanting to port EGL to rockbox, projectm might just be possible on h300 ) |
| 16:36:19 | nobby | oooooooooooooooooh |
| 16:36:27 | nobby | i am a genius |
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| 16:49:03 | preglow | anyone here sitting on a heap of spare h120 parts? :P |
| 16:49:08 | HCl | why? :P |
| 16:49:41 | nobby | i have a working 140 sitting on me right now :P |
| 16:49:48 | nobby | oh |
| 16:49:52 | nobby | my remote is dead |
| 16:49:53 | nobby | want it? |
| 16:49:57 | preglow | the plastic parts on the side of it, around the screw holes |
| 16:50:04 | preglow | they both show signs of stress |
| 16:50:05 | nobby | it works, but the record and volume buttons are fucked |
| 16:50:11 | preglow | hell, one of them's flat out broken |
| 16:50:39 | preglow | so i must've done something wrong while screwing it together once |
| 16:51:05 | preglow | point is, i don't like having them broken :P |
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| 16:52:57 | nobby | anyone know where to get chip8 games? |
| 16:55:00 | Renko | google? |
| 16:55:35 | nobby | tried |
| 16:55:49 | nobby | found a few just now |
| 16:57:05 | nobby | and more... |
| 16:57:09 | nobby | legal ones |
| 16:57:12 | nobby | theyre tiny |
| 16:57:23 | nobby | should i add links to the wiki? |
| 16:57:34 | nobby | http://www.zophar.net/roms.phtml?op=show&type=genesis |
| 16:57:39 | nobby | WTH |
| 16:57:43 | nobby | genesis? |
| 16:57:47 | * | nobby is confused |
| 16:58:01 | nobby | http://www.zophar.net/roms.phtml?op=show&type=chip8 |
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| 17:03:25 | preglow | haha |
| 17:03:31 | preglow | does that site still exist? |
| 17:03:36 | nobby | zophar? sure |
| 17:04:00 | nobby | yeah, i remember getting snes roms off it when i was about 10 |
| 17:04:18 | preglow | i stopped visiting it after it went down the drain, and the new site admin turned out to be a gun nut |
| 17:04:20 | * | HCl sighs. |
| 17:04:33 | nobby | i never visited it regularly anyway |
| 17:05:20 | preglow | i did visit it regularly, until the day i was greeted with a bloody 9/11 lament, a "WE WILL NEVER FORGET" logo and instructions on how to get firearms |
| 17:05:45 | nobby | i dont know wheter to lol or be sad |
| 17:05:51 | preglow | i chose the latter |
| 17:06:23 | preglow | then i saw that the forum avatar of the site admin was him pointing a gun at the screen, i just stopped visiting it |
| 17:06:42 | nobby | its ironic that "we will never forget" is the attitude that the hijackers on 9/11 towards america |
| 17:06:56 | preglow | haha |
| 17:07:21 | nobby | its true, the middle east still hates the west because of the crusades! |
| 17:07:26 | preglow | i just think it's funny that usa refuses to forget, when it has no problem forgetting shit it itself has done to other parts of the world for decades |
| 17:07:30 | preglow | but enough of that |
| 17:07:33 | nobby | yes |
| 17:07:40 | nobby | save it for #politics |
| 17:08:04 | preglow | i've got to go code other stuff :/ |
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| 17:54:11 | HCl | yay. |
| 17:54:12 | HCl | hi |
| 17:54:22 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 17:54:22 | * | HCl smacks computers with a hammer. |
| 17:54:31 | | Join Phoenix983 [0] (~c9f818aa@labb.contactor.se) |
| 17:55:24 | Phoenix983 | ANYONE HERE KNOW THE MASTER USER PASSWORD DEFAULT FACTORY OF WESTERN DIGITAL HARD DISKS??? |
| 17:55:40 | HCl | no caps please. |
| 17:55:49 | HCl | isn't the default password empty? |
| 17:55:59 | Phoenix983 | mmm |
| 17:56:15 | Phoenix983 | is the master user password |
| 17:56:30 | HCl | google is your friend |
| 17:57:09 | Quelsaruk | Phoenix983: try with all empty |
| 17:57:17 | Phoenix983 | i tried that, but i not find nading, give some idea for the good words for search |
| 17:57:22 | Quelsaruk | hmm |
| 17:57:31 | Quelsaruk | i tried all 0's with an IBM drive |
| 17:57:36 | Quelsaruk | and worked |
| 17:57:37 | Quelsaruk | :D |
| 17:58:10 | HCl | "western digital" default harddisk password lock |
| 17:58:13 | HCl | try that in google. |
| 17:58:18 | Phoenix983 | me too, but nading... :( this program of atapwd is great |
| 17:58:49 | | Quit R3nTiL () |
| 17:58:55 | * | HCl knows too many people from the xbox scene who locked their hdd with an unknown key and ruined their hdd |
| 17:58:58 | Quelsaruk | tried all spaces? |
| 17:59:16 | Phoenix983 | yes |
| 17:59:36 | Phoenix983 | exist any program for reveal the code?? |
| 17:59:47 | Phoenix983 | but let me try again |
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| 18:00:44 | Quelsaruk | there's a special tool for unlocking the drive... using linux |
| 18:01:56 | HCl | actually. there isn't. |
| 18:02:06 | HCl | the key is stored in a piece of ram only accessable by the firmware |
| 18:02:14 | HCl | so even a firmware upgrade won't help |
| 18:02:41 | HCl | harddisk keys are designed to be unrecoverable thus secure |
| 18:03:02 | Phoenix983 | mmm |
| 18:03:30 | Phoenix983 | i tried the 0's, the spaces, and the empty password |
| 18:03:43 | HCl | how did you lock it in the first place? |
| 18:03:49 | Phoenix983 | any other idea?? :'( |
| 18:04:17 | HCl | oh, putting an password on a disk without knowing the password also voids its warranty, as far as i know. |
| 18:04:48 | Phoenix983 | it is locked power on and power off the system in repeat ocations, is how a electric down. |
| 18:05:05 | HCl | no, harddisk locks are designed to be secure, you need a general hdd unlocking tool that unlocks it with the correct key |
| 18:05:18 | HCl | what? |
| 18:06:16 | Phoenix983 | ok i have the atapwd, this is not a hdd unlocking tool??? |
| 18:06:28 | HCl | well, the name sounds right |
| 18:07:14 | Phoenix983 | this is the program in the web page of rockbox for unlock hard disk |
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| 18:07:30 | HCl | then its probably right. i haven't used it myself... bye o.o; |
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| 18:07:53 | Phoenix983 | sorry lol |
| 18:07:58 | Phoenix983 | what did you said? |
| 18:07:59 | HCl | its ok. |
| 18:08:07 | HCl | that its probably right and i haven't used it myself |
| 18:08:28 | CoCoLUS | you'll still need the pw to use it |
| 18:08:35 | Phoenix983 | mmm what hdd unlocking tool use??? |
| 18:08:51 | CoCoLUS | you don't even need to search for one if you don't have the pw |
| 18:09:06 | HCl | yea.. |
| 18:09:18 | Phoenix983 | what is the pw?? |
| 18:09:24 | CoCoLUS | the one you set :) |
| 18:09:39 | Phoenix983 | aaah password |
| 18:09:46 | Phoenix983 | pw=password |
| 18:09:48 | CoCoLUS | yeah |
| 18:09:57 | CoCoLUS | did you set it manually? |
| 18:10:05 | Phoenix983 | lol i never set any password |
| 18:10:17 | Phoenix983 | this hdd is locked auto |
| 18:10:25 | HCl | by what? |
| 18:10:27 | CoCoLUS | well you know who/what locket it? |
| 18:10:39 | Phoenix983 | for a repeately power on and power down process |
| 18:10:52 | HCl | by what? |
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| 18:12:42 | * | HCl goes to eat dinner. |
| 18:13:48 | Phoenix983 | for repeat shut down and power on proces |
| 18:13:50 | Phoenix983 | s |
| 18:14:50 | CoCoLUS | theres no hard drive on this earth that locks itself just because you power it up and down rapidly |
| 18:16:32 | Phoenix983 | man, this is the first case |
| 18:16:47 | CoCoLUS | sorry but i somehow just doubt it :) |
| 18:17:00 | Phoenix983 | only next to this process, that is locked |
| 18:17:10 | CoCoLUS | tell me which device/pc/abacus did that, and i'll believe you |
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| 18:17:25 | Phoenix983 | i dont need lie man |
| 18:17:55 | Phoenix983 | it is how a range of electric down current |
| 18:18:17 | CoCoLUS | ok so i believe you, but then, i can't help you, because i don't know what happened to your drive |
| 18:18:40 | CoCoLUS | its a moot point anyway, if you don't know the pw, you're screwed |
| 18:18:52 | Phoenix983 | exist million of western digital hard disk locked auto in the world, specific my disk WD800BB |
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| 18:19:20 | Phoenix983 | this model |
| 18:20:41 | Phoenix983 | i know that if i not know the pw, i need to go to put the default factory password, but i dont know where find them for my model |
| 18:22:10 | Phoenix983 | or for the mark western digital |
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| 18:22:32 | CoCoLUS | well if it is such a ultra high-security auto-locking model like you claim don't you think the master pw would be set as well? |
| 18:27:07 | HCl | what exactly do you mean with locked auto? |
| 18:27:11 | * | HCl returns |
| 18:27:29 | Phoenix983 | the same of the words |
| 18:27:52 | HCl | i'm unfamiliar with the concept of autolocking. |
| 18:27:59 | HCl | there are no disks that do that. |
| 18:28:17 | HCl | i only know one system that runs off a locked drive and unlocks it during boot |
| 18:28:31 | CoCoLUS | the xbox. |
| 18:28:44 | HCl | yup. |
| 18:29:24 | Phoenix983 | this mark this signs−−−−−−> S= E= L= F=- X= F=H |
| 18:29:30 | HCl | so even if you need a secure system, there's absolutely no reason for a computer system to keep locking their drive on boot. |
| 18:29:52 | HCl | unlocks are temporary unless the computer system states otherwise |
| 18:30:23 | Phoenix983 | no the auto lock was for the shut-down and power on |
| 18:30:36 | HCl | harddisks don't lock on computer shut down. |
| 18:30:49 | Phoenix983 | lol |
| 18:30:53 | HCl | as soon as a locked harddisk loses power, when it boots up again, it needs to unlock. |
| 18:30:55 | Phoenix983 | you dont satnd me |
| 18:31:11 | HCl | unless the computer states that it needs to unlock permanently. |
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| 18:32:00 | Phoenix983 | my hard disk is not lock for power on the computer |
| 18:32:15 | HCl | either way. i can't help you if you can't tell me what locked it. |
| 18:32:17 | Phoenix983 | it was for ON an OFF operation |
| 18:33:06 | Phoenix983 | this WD hard disk WD800BB first version have this problem of auto lock |
| 18:33:32 | HCl | you mean its a bug in the firmware of the disk? |
| 18:33:49 | CoCoLUS | you have any info on this? |
| 18:33:51 | Phoenix983 | i know of a great quanty of reports for auto lockñ of this modelsç |
| 18:33:57 | CoCoLUS | cause google finds absolutely nothing on that model |
| 18:34:25 | Phoenix983 | mmm let me show you the marks of the atapwd |
| 18:35:05 | Phoenix983 | S= sume E=sume L=sume F=- X=sume F=H |
| 18:35:41 | Phoenix983 | S=( ) E=( ) L=( ) F=- X=( ) F=H |
| 18:35:59 | HCl | i don't know atapwd. that literally says nothing to me. |
| 18:36:01 | Phoenix983 | damn this chat dont show the adition sign |
| 18:36:22 | CoCoLUS | + ? |
| 18:36:27 | Phoenix983 | yes |
| 18:36:30 | Phoenix983 | |
| 18:36:32 | Phoenix983 | |
| 18:36:43 | Phoenix983 | but here not |
| 18:36:49 | Phoenix983 | |
| 18:36:51 | Phoenix983 | see |
| 18:36:55 | Phoenix983 | |
| 18:37:18 | CoCoLUS | i guess this is because your hard drive's locked :P |
| 18:37:31 | Phoenix983 | ok but if you dont use the atapwd, what program use to?? |
| 18:37:53 | Phoenix983 | h in f indicate high secure mode |
| 18:38:09 | CoCoLUS | why are you so fixated on the program |
| 18:38:19 | CoCoLUS | it doesn't matter what tool you're using if you don't know that friggin pw |
| 18:39:05 | Phoenix983 | dont sayme that :'( my hope is the default pw of the factory |
| 18:39:21 | HCl | the only default password is all 0's / all spaces |
| 18:39:40 | CoCoLUS | its not like different unlocking tools "know" default factory pws |
| 18:39:46 | Phoenix983 | but this is too for the Western Digital Hard Drives??? |
| 18:40:10 | Phoenix983 | because this is for fujitsu and hitachi hard disks |
| 18:40:20 | HCl | i suggest you email WD |
| 18:40:22 | HCl | and ask them yourself. |
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| 18:41:16 | Phoenix983 | mmm i had think that, but the response is slow, but if i cannot find the solution... i ll do it |
| 18:41:46 | HCl | unlike bios passwords and the like, harddisk passwords are designed to be secure. |
| 18:41:54 | Phoenix983 | ok thank you for try help me :) |
| 18:42:01 | HCl | np.. |
| 18:42:21 | Phoenix983 | ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL??? |
| 18:42:36 | CoCoLUS | don't think so, amigo :P |
| 18:42:43 | Phoenix983 | LOL |
| 18:42:47 | Phoenix983 | ok byeç |
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| 18:43:30 | HCl | strange person. |
| 18:43:52 | CoCoLUS | well |
| 18:44:01 | CoCoLUS | aren't we too? :)= |
| 18:44:19 | HCl | yes, but thats not the point! |
| 18:44:21 | HCl | :P |
| 18:44:47 | CoCoLUS | ok :P |
| 18:44:55 | CoCoLUS | i'm getting myself something to eat |
| 18:47:23 | * | HCl goes to try to fix his thing. |
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| 19:55:52 | preglow | coffee in the keyboard! i win! |
| 19:56:19 | preglow | if i suddenly go silent, you know why |
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| 21:15:16 | jyp | Anyone knows the system call to seek in a file past 4Mo ? |
| 21:15:57 | jyp | on linux/x86 |
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| 21:21:31 | preglow | lseek64? |
| 21:22:25 | jyp | thanks ;) |
| 21:23:02 | jyp | I can't believe this isn't in the 'see also' of lseek ... ,( |
| 21:23:15 | preglow | well, it is actually |
| 21:23:17 | preglow | that's how i found it |
| 21:23:35 | jyp | not in my local manpages |
| 21:23:37 | preglow | i just vaguely remebered it was something64 |
| 21:23:57 | preglow | well, then you've got old man pages |
| 21:24:06 | preglow | it's on both of my boxes |
| 21:24:08 | jyp | indeed |
| 21:24:10 | jyp | 2001-09-24 |
| 21:24:13 | preglow | ahahaha |
| 21:24:19 | preglow | consider upgrading |
| 21:24:27 | jyp | debian testing |
| 21:24:51 | preglow | that's plain poor work from their side |
| 21:24:56 | preglow | testing should have newer pages than that |
| 21:25:00 | jyp | I'd say |
| 21:25:20 | preglow | even stable should have newer pages than that |
| 21:25:52 | jyp | Knowing debian, there must be a subtle political reason :( |
| 21:26:54 | preglow | hahahah |
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| 21:28:41 | HCl | yawn |
| 21:30:27 | HCl | i swear, debugging through the means of a filesystem is nasty. |
| 21:30:36 | preglow | agreed |
| 21:31:02 | jyp | What do you say of _debugging a filesystem_ ? ;) |
| 21:31:42 | jyp | Actually, I love to debug by analysing gigabytes of traces ;P |
| 21:32:28 | preglow | i want a gdb stub :/ |
| 21:34:33 | HCl | well, write one :/ |
| 21:34:45 | * | HCl goes to add it to the todolist |
| 21:34:57 | rasher | it's already on the iriver pages |
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| 21:34:59 | rasher | isn't it |
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| 21:35:37 | HCl | yea, i guess so. |
| 21:35:45 | HCl | but nobody's actively working on it nor sees it as a priority |
| 21:35:57 | preglow | well, i have no idea how to write one |
| 21:36:07 | preglow | and i'd rather use the little time i have available on dsp stuff |
| 21:36:32 | HCl | ditto. |
| 21:36:40 | HCl | well, aside from using the time i have on rockboy stuff. |
| 21:36:54 | preglow | if i could devote all my time to rockbox, i'd leap at it |
| 21:37:03 | preglow | but i've got this pesky masters thing to write |
| 21:37:03 | preglow | heh |
| 21:39:09 | jyp | You know Donald Knuth? |
| 21:39:23 | preglow | i know _of_ him |
| 21:39:31 | HCl | is there a flush() command to flush a filedescriptor to disk or is write guaranteed to be flushed? |
| 21:40:03 | preglow | sync() ? |
| 21:40:10 | jyp | Well, the lesson he teaches is that you should take care of building good tools if you don't have them |
| 21:40:21 | preglow | might not be in rockbox, fo course |
| 21:40:29 | HCl | ata_flush() ? |
| 21:40:33 | HCl | its not in the plugin api... |
| 21:40:48 | preglow | does rockbox actually do buffering? |
| 21:41:03 | jyp | He wanted to write books; he started to write character rendering tools... |
| 21:41:12 | HCl | i don't know. |
| 21:41:14 | preglow | jyp: yes, and semi nice ones at that |
| 21:41:54 | jyp | The best of their times |
| 21:41:55 | preglow | unfortunately for the entire scientific community, he did not make good fonts |
| 21:42:29 | preglow | and now we all have to torture our eyes be reading papers typeset with computer modern roman |
| 21:43:32 | preglow | (la)tex is still pretty good, but its age is starting to show in the font support department |
| 21:45:33 | jyp | Whatever you say; the point is few people know of his books; but alot use the tools he did in the process |
| 21:45:58 | preglow | haha |
| 21:46:08 | preglow | indeed |
| 21:46:17 | preglow | his books are quite boring, but his tools are mostly good |
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| 22:14:40 | * | HCl is fixing sokoban |
| 22:17:33 | preglow | haha |
| 22:17:45 | preglow | dynarec acting up on you? :P |
| 22:18:28 | HCl | somewhat :P |
| 22:18:42 | HCl | nothing bad, really. |
| 22:18:46 | HCl | its working as expected |
| 22:18:52 | HCl | its just that i don't have my assembly right |
| 22:24:05 | preglow | i'm tiring early tonight, it seems |
| 22:24:13 | * | preglow puts on drum&bass |
| 22:34:08 | HCl | okay, i got a patch for sokoban |
| 22:35:16 | HCl | ftp://titania.student.utwente.nl/sokoban.diff |
| 22:35:24 | HCl | can anyone test/try that and/or commit it? |
| 22:36:26 | preglow | i'll give it a go |
| 22:36:43 | HCl | made things dependant on model and lcd width |
| 22:39:29 | preglow | queer |
| 22:39:34 | preglow | why isn't my player automounted |
| 22:40:58 | preglow | fills the entire screen |
| 22:41:46 | HCl | work ok? |
| 22:41:49 | preglow | yup |
| 22:41:59 | preglow | i really think it should buffer several levels in one go, though |
| 22:42:05 | preglow | spinning up the disk on level change is not very clever |
| 22:42:17 | preglow | i haven't played this before, it's fun :P |
| 22:42:32 | HCl | hehe. |
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| 22:46:45 | hubble | XShocK: yo.. maybe time to upload the code so someone can add it to the CVS? |
| 22:46:53 | hubble | XShocK: I've cleaned and commented the code |
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| 22:47:28 | preglow | have you put the i2c stuff in i2c.c, or do you use the controls regs directly? |
| 22:48:15 | * | HCl fixes snake |
| 22:50:24 | Chamois | so anyone can put sound into CVS ? |
| 22:50:38 | preglow | as you see, they're working on it |
| 22:51:08 | Chamois | yes but Xshock said yesterday he gives his work to LInusN but Linus didn't come here of the day |
| 22:51:19 | hubble | preglow: it's a seperate file for i2c stuff, i2c-h100.c |
| 22:51:37 | preglow | great |
| 22:51:43 | preglow | this will be a fine commit |
| 22:51:53 | preglow | Chamois: then we'll wait another day |
| 22:52:04 | preglow | Chamois: it's not like you can use rockbox to play sound now anyway |
| 22:52:16 | preglow | we still need to make the codec layer |
| 22:52:21 | Chamois | ii know |
| 22:52:27 | Chamois | no problem |
| 22:52:59 | hubble | preglow: do you know of the status of the codec interface? |
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| 22:57:30 | preglow | hubble: hmm, not really |
| 22:58:26 | * | HCl goes back to dynarec after fixing snake and sokoban, and concluding that snake2 is darn hard to fix |
| 22:58:36 | HCl | i think, anyway.s |
| 22:58:43 | preglow | we need a couple of core coders around to discuss it |
| 22:58:49 | preglow | and they've been mostly absent lately |
| 22:59:21 | preglow | but dave's done a bit of work and has things more or less worked out |
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| 23:04:35 | HCl | enough coding for me today |
| 23:09:41 | XShocK | hubble: i came back. |
| 23:10:37 | XShocK | yes, i gave the code to LInus |
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| 23:38:50 | asdsd | hey guys |
| 23:40:09 | asdsd | i wanted to gather some information |
| 23:40:25 | asdsd | i noticed you guys have been able to load rockbox onto the h1xx |
| 23:40:38 | HCl | mhm |
| 23:40:59 | asdsd | well i just wanted to know if u guys know the entry point address for the decompiled firmware |
| 23:41:05 | asdsd | see im trying to load up on IDA |
| 23:41:20 | asdsd | but its in binary and its telling me i have to press C on the entry point address |
| 23:41:26 | HCl | hm, thats a question for linus, really. |
| 23:41:31 | asdsd | instead of figuring it out myself, i decided to find u guys |
| 23:41:39 | asdsd | is linus here today? |
| 23:42:02 | hubble | asdsd: entry point in .bin is 512+32 = 546 |
| 23:42:10 | hubble | asdsd: see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverMemoryMap |
| 23:42:14 | asdsd | thanks hubble |
| 23:42:19 | asdsd | omg thankyou |
| 23:43:05 | hubble | asdsd: I've created a IDA project that contains all code at the correct virtual adresses |
| 23:43:38 | asdsd | it would be a huge help if u cud just email it to me, or send it to me via xdcc |
| 23:44:23 | preglow | asdsd: what are you planning on doing? |
| 23:44:34 | asdsd | wow that memorymap is really gonna help, u guys really ARE working on it |
| 23:44:48 | asdsd | well don't laugh but im trying to fix the drm issue on the US firmware |
| 23:44:53 | preglow | ahh |
| 23:45:05 | preglow | standard cracking job, heh |
| 23:45:08 | asdsd | yeah |
| 23:45:15 | HCl | does h1x0 have drm? |
| 23:45:25 | preglow | no |
| 23:45:28 | preglow | h3x0 does |
| 23:46:04 | HCl | kay. |
| 23:46:10 | asdsd | no |
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| 23:46:11 | asdsd | yeah |
| 23:46:15 | asdsd | im working on the h320 |
| 23:46:22 | asdsd | but i figure they both use the same entry point |
| 23:46:23 | HCl | kay. |
| 23:46:31 | HCl | mmm. |
| 23:47:53 | hubble | asdsd: yes, and if you follow it to the section which copies from flash to sram and sdram you can probable see the h3x0 memory layout aswell |
| 23:48:16 | preglow | they copy flash code to sdram? |
| 23:48:52 | hubble | preglow: sure.. see 0x1528 |
| 23:48:55 | preglow | why do they do that? according to linus, executing from flash is actually faster |
| 23:49:16 | asdsd | ok guys |
| 23:49:33 | asdsd | so im loading the h300.hex file right, its decoded using ihpfirm |
| 23:49:42 | asdsd | then i set the cpu to moto:coldfire |
| 23:49:44 | hubble | preglow: most of the irivers firmware is at 0x31000000 (sdram) and a few routines are in sram (0x10000000) |
| 23:50:05 | asdsd | in the input file, i set the loading address to 0x544? |
| 23:50:07 | preglow | and by the way, do anyone know how stripwax managed to figure out the encryption? |
| 23:50:35 | hubble | preglow: nope, i'm a little curious too.. we should ask him :) |
| 23:50:48 | preglow | i was planning to, but haven't seen him lately |
| 23:50:54 | preglow | looks like it's a block xor code with feedback |
| 23:51:03 | preglow | not something i can reverse without prior knowledge, at least |
| 23:51:25 | hubble | preglow: maybee he did some statistical analysis? |
| 23:51:28 | asdsd | stripwax is a genius |
| 23:51:54 | preglow | hubble: perhaps, i'll be the first to admit i really don't know much about that |
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