| 00:00:06 | preglow | then again, makefiles are not my forte |
| 00:00:28 | amiconn | It's libmad only, although the makefile looks just like the other codec makefiles |
| 00:00:41 | Bagder | no |
| 00:00:45 | amiconn | no? |
| 00:00:57 | Bagder | the OUTPUT variable isn't set properly when the clean target is used |
| 00:01:04 | amiconn | Well, there's another difference when 'make'ing |
| 00:01:19 | Bagder | imho, they should be moved into each makefile and not passed in by the parent one |
| 00:01:29 | amiconn | All other codecs just mention the source file name; libmad adds the path |
| 00:01:48 | amiconn | (in the echo CC... line) |
| 00:02:55 | amiconn | Moving the output variable into the file has problems too... I experienced this when creating the Makefile for rockboy |
| 00:03:27 | amiconn | $OBJDIR is set different when 'make clean' compared to 'make'/ 'make all' |
| 00:03:34 | Bagder | yes, it requires some further changes |
| 00:03:41 | Bagder | I still think that's the way to go |
| 00:04:02 | amiconn | I agree it is the clean(er) way |
| 00:05:56 | preglow | what the hell |
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| 00:16:09 | Patr3ck | just examined the id3 database, the search functionality would be very useful for the filetree as well |
| 00:17:23 | Patr3ck | but I cant see an easy way to display the results |
| 00:17:56 | * | Bagder can't think of any easy way either |
| 00:18:24 | Patr3ck | something like switch temporarly to id3 view? |
| 00:18:32 | * | Tomas2 is going to bed |
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| 00:19:05 | Patr3ck | and then use whats already in the db tree |
| 00:20:59 | preglow | my god, iriver.mp3 is tragic |
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| 00:26:00 | rasher | preglow: The "iRiver theme song" one? |
| 00:26:17 | preglow | i would have thought bundling this song with every mp3 player they sold was equivalent with commercial suicide |
| 00:26:58 | preglow | rasher: yes |
| 00:27:02 | preglow | catch the digital flow... |
| 00:27:16 | rasher | It's excellent |
| 00:27:18 | tvelocity[away] | it's not THAT bad :P |
| 00:27:21 | rasher | Perfectly horrible |
| 00:27:36 | rasher | And I get it each time it's been plugged into usb because it's in the root :) |
| 00:27:48 | rasher | And then I catch the digital flow |
| 00:27:52 | preglow | haha |
| 00:27:55 | preglow | it's the first thing i deleted |
| 00:28:03 | preglow | it's so cheesy i almost faint |
| 00:28:10 | rasher | That's why I love it. |
| 00:28:11 | Bagder | I never listed to it |
| 00:28:17 | Bagder | I wiped, and rsynced |
| 00:28:34 | preglow | Bagder: you're better off |
| 00:28:49 | Bagder | my rsync line works exactly the same for both archos and iriver |
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| 00:29:21 | rasher | I need to tune mine somehow |
| 00:29:33 | rasher | because right now I'm only comparing filesizes |
| 00:29:41 | rasher | which doesn't work for when I've only changed metadata |
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| 00:32:10 | rasher | Bagder: how're you rsyncing? |
| 00:32:28 | Bagder | rsync -avW −−progress −−delete /data/mp3/* /mnt/archos/ |
| 00:32:58 | Bagder | might not be perfect, but it works fine |
| 00:35:56 | rasher | hm, I ended up using −−size-ony |
| 00:35:59 | rasher | −−size-only |
| 00:36:20 | rasher | Because of some weirdness with fat32 causing it to update files that weren't changed |
| 00:39:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:41:59 | Rick | mmm |
| 00:42:39 | Rick | what's shakin'? |
| 00:43:03 | amiconn | rasher: Why is that a problem? If the file didn't change, simply copying it again shouldn't hurt either |
| 00:43:22 | rasher | amiconn: But it takes time, and shouldn't happen! |
| 00:43:26 | Rick | yes |
| 00:43:35 | Rick | i'm sure copying a same large file over USB1 would suck |
| 00:43:35 | rasher | It hurts my nothing-should-happen-for-no-reason sense |
| 00:43:35 | Rick | ;P |
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| 00:43:51 | mehistme | avoiding spammers is hard these days :( |
| 00:44:06 | rasher | Well I'm using a ihp-120 which has usb2, but it's still annoying |
| 00:44:15 | amiconn | Agreed to the 'shouldn't happen' part |
| 00:44:36 | amiconn | Anyway, can't say much about that. I don't use any special sync tool |
| 00:44:41 | rasher | Plus I run the iriver database tool if I added files |
| 00:44:43 | Rick | rasher: yeah, but I suffered having to use usb1 for awhile with my h120 |
| 00:44:51 | Rick | (I upgraded recently which included usb2 ;) |
| 00:44:54 | rasher | Rick: ouch |
| 00:44:59 | Rick | yeah |
| 00:45:12 | Rick | spent at least six hours copying stuff over |
| 00:45:13 | * | Rick gags |
| 00:45:49 | preglow | i just copy stuff i think i want to listen to to it |
| 00:45:51 | preglow | no special sync |
| 00:46:32 | amiconn | I simply copy all mp3s I decided to keep at all to my player :) |
| 00:46:42 | Rick | yeah, I do as well |
| 00:46:55 | rasher | preglow: sounds like how I would use a 256mb player :) |
| 00:46:55 | Rick | the only thing I listen to on my computer now are streams |
| 00:47:06 | Patr3ck | i use unison to sync pc<->iriver |
| 00:47:19 | Rick | also |
| 00:47:29 | Rick | I was thinking, it'd be nice to support tracker formats in the future as well ;) |
| 00:47:42 | preglow | it's coming |
| 00:47:46 | * | Rick nods |
| 00:47:52 | rasher | There's a bit about that in the wiki, but noone seriously working on it I think |
| 00:47:56 | Rick | ah |
| 00:48:00 | Rick | i'll look into it |
| 00:48:01 | amiconn | Now that is another thing... grrrfml |
| 00:48:11 | preglow | god knows how i would use 256meg player |
| 00:48:14 | preglow | i like to listen to entire albums |
| 00:48:14 | * | amiconn remembers there are 13000+ mods to sort... |
| 00:48:25 | Rick | wasn't someone working on the remote spi? |
| 00:48:32 | preglow | Rick: yes, think so |
| 00:48:41 | rasher | I tried looking at libmodplug, and it doesn't appear to be using many floats |
| 00:48:42 | Rick | amiconn: hehehehehehe ;) |
| 00:48:54 | rasher | but it's c ... |
| 00:48:58 | rasher | cplusplus |
| 00:49:02 | Rick | ouch |
| 00:49:05 | Rick | i'm sure there's a lib somewhere |
| 00:49:11 | * | Rick searches sourceforge |
| 00:50:02 | rasher | say mikmod and there will be an uprising |
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| 00:50:15 | Rick | hehe |
| 00:50:33 | Rick | what's wrong with mikmod, other than I wasn't going to suggest it? :P |
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| 00:50:46 | rasher | Thing is, I actually don't know |
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| 00:51:06 | rasher | but I've heard a bunch of people saying it has poor support for some features |
| 00:51:11 | Rick | ah |
| 00:51:12 | muesli- | g'Day folks |
| 00:52:10 | preglow | there are precious few perfect mod players out there |
| 00:52:14 | preglow | the only ones i know of are closed source |
| 00:52:20 | Rick | ah |
| 00:53:09 | rasher | But then.. a poor C library is probably a better bet than a good cplusplus library |
| 00:53:20 | Rick | hehe |
| 00:53:33 | Rick | well, mikmod is at least mentioning |
| 00:54:18 | preglow | well, we can't use c++ |
| 00:54:36 | Rick | mikmod is c++? |
| 00:54:41 | preglow | i don't know |
| 00:54:44 | Rick | oh ;P |
| 00:55:24 | Rick | trying to search SF for mikmod but SF seems to have died on me |
| 00:55:28 | rasher | I'm just guessing that it may be feasible to adapt it to c, depending on how "much" cplusplus it is |
| 00:56:16 | Rick | http://mikmod.raphnet.net/#files |
| 00:57:02 | Rick | appears to be c |
| 00:57:04 | Camilo | because rsync reads the destination files, you might be better off with some combination of find and cp - to just copy the changed files |
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| 00:57:19 | Rick | yeah, it's C |
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| 00:58:24 | rasher | Camilo: what's wrong with reading the destination files? |
| 00:58:44 | Camilo | if you're reading them through a slow usb link... |
| 00:58:59 | rasher | I'm not. I |
| 00:59:01 | Rick | I don't think that's much of a problem |
| 00:59:06 | rasher | 'm reading them through usb2 |
| 00:59:16 | Camilo | it's still slower than your hard disk |
| 00:59:22 | rasher | it was never a speed issue, it was an issue of being WRONG |
| 00:59:27 | Rick | Heh |
| 00:59:33 | rasher | it updated files that hadn't changed |
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| 01:00:11 | Camilo | you you use the metadata on your filesystem to find the files that have changed... surely that's better? |
| 01:00:45 | rasher | but then I miss out on all of the goodies of rsync |
| 01:00:51 | Camilo | sigh |
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| 01:02:10 | rasher | plus, I'm not really in the mood for creating such a script |
| 01:02:20 | rasher | and I'll want to delete removed files as well |
| 01:02:38 | rasher | sounds like hard work |
| 01:02:57 | Camilo | fair enough |
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| 01:09:17 | rasher | XMP is also C |
| 01:09:25 | rasher | (module library/player) |
| 01:12:24 | rasher | I don't know how that compares to mikmod |
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| 01:13:47 | Rick | ah |
| 01:15:01 | rasher | dumb seems pretty immature |
| 01:15:44 | rasher | not a lot of formats supported it seems |
| 01:15:59 | rasher | but c |
| 01:17:48 | Rick | XMP, or mikmod? |
| 01:18:10 | rasher | "DUMB" |
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| 01:18:40 | rasher | I think xmp and mikmod both support more or less the same formats |
| 01:18:50 | rasher | but how well, I don't know |
| 01:19:37 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Other_CODECs |
| 01:20:25 | DMJC | how's the tremor codec going? |
| 01:20:48 | preglow | not too good yet |
| 01:20:59 | Rick | Oh |
| 01:21:50 | rasher | Did anyone look at the viewer patch yet? |
| 01:22:11 | Rick | what viewer patch, and whatsit do? |
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| 01:22:34 | rasher | It takes proportional fonts into account |
| 01:22:44 | rasher | and adds an extra flow mode |
| 01:23:02 | rasher | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1152363 |
| 01:23:17 | Rick | ah |
| 01:23:23 | Rick | I havn't used the text viewer at all yet |
| 01:23:49 | webguest58 | "Reading books on the iriver is much better now" |
| 01:24:01 | webguest58 | We can read books ? |
| 01:24:09 | tvelocity[away] | omg reading books?:P |
| 01:24:46 | rasher | if you have them in raw text format, sure |
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| 01:24:54 | webguest58 | sorry ill be quiet and watch you talk :| you guys should take a break and have a coffee, or tea, whatever yer flava is |
| 01:25:01 | Rick | heh |
| 01:25:03 | tvelocity[away] | maybe you could support rtf?:P |
| 01:25:08 | * | Rick wouldn't be able to stand reading something on such a small screen |
| 01:25:20 | Rick | s/something/a book/ |
| 01:25:20 | webguest58 | even an MP3 song ? |
| 01:25:27 | webguest58 | Or tag :| |
| 01:25:41 | Rick | hence correction |
| 01:25:41 | Rick | ;) |
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| 01:25:59 | webguest58 | bleh heh |
| 01:26:25 | webguest58 | So my little minions, hows the sound coming along |
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| 01:26:29 | tvelocity[away] | do you need any help with the greek translation, or do you already have someone to do this? |
| 01:26:30 | amiconn | x11 is like .... hmm.... |
| 01:27:35 | amiconn | tvelocity[away]: Additional translations (also, updated translations) are always appreciated |
| 01:27:41 | | Part Camilo |
| 01:27:58 | rasher | tvelocity[away]: try taking a look at the current state of the translation and see if it's up to date |
| 01:28:10 | amiconn | Rockbox claims to support 24 languages, but only 8 of the are up to date |
| 01:28:27 | Rick | is it a true translation? |
| 01:28:37 | Rick | I thought rockbox didn't support unicode? |
| 01:28:39 | * | Rick could be wrong |
| 01:28:50 | webguest58 | Nowt wrong with english |
| 01:28:54 | rasher | ouch.. greek is 22 months old |
| 01:29:02 | rasher | definately not up to date :) |
| 01:29:11 | Rick | feel free to update it tvelocity[away] |
| 01:29:11 | tvelocity[away] | well then except an update soon :) |
| 01:29:12 | Rick | ;) |
| 01:29:14 | webguest58 | How much can a dictionary change in 22 months ? |
| 01:29:20 | * | preglow pats his norwegian translation |
| 01:29:25 | Rick | webguest58: interface updates/changes/additions/removals/etc |
| 01:29:31 | rasher | webguest58: well new strings were added to the rockbox interface |
| 01:29:51 | tvelocity[away] | a dictionary not much (given that greek hasnt changed a lot the last 4000 yrs)... but string change a lot in an app:P |
| 01:29:52 | Rick | oh yeah, I forgot about the language selection in the config |
| 01:29:55 | amiconn | Rick: rockbox does not (yet) support unicode, instead it uses different codepages for languages with non-latin characters |
| 01:30:03 | Rick | ah, amiconn |
| 01:30:05 | webguest58 | i understand |
| 01:30:32 | amiconn | Most use the iso8859 family, only russian is a bit different in that it uses win-1251 |
| 01:30:39 | Rick | ah |
| 01:30:42 | rasher | and hebrew? |
| 01:30:52 | rasher | wasn't there hebrew? |
| 01:31:05 | Bagder | yes |
| 01:31:13 | Bagder | but it doesn't work very good apparently |
| 01:31:19 | webguest58 | How many hebrewish people are going to use rockbox ? |
| 01:31:22 | Bagder | there was also a chinese version |
| 01:31:30 | Seed | webguest58: at least 1 |
| 01:31:32 | Rick | oh |
| 01:31:32 | Rick | also |
| 01:31:34 | Bagder | but it required a patch |
| 01:31:36 | webguest58 | lol |
| 01:31:37 | amiconn | markun made a patch that adds unicode support (utf-8) to rockbox |
| 01:31:47 | Rick | I thought 'play' on the h120 remote was supposed to start original firmware? |
| 01:31:48 | tvelocity[away] | well since most languages could be represented with 8 bits, i guess its mainly a matter of fonts |
| 01:32:00 | rasher | Rick: you need to hold it for a bit |
| 01:32:03 | Rick | ahhhh |
| 01:32:04 | amiconn | This needs some more work before it can be integrated though |
| 01:32:08 | Rick | okay |
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| 01:32:24 | rasher | Rick: so the firmware gets a chance to see that you are pressing it |
| 01:32:29 | * | Rick nods |
| 01:32:56 | * | rasher compiles a list of translation statuses |
| 01:33:02 | amiconn | Bagder: I think the utf-8 support can borrow some ideas from the chinese patch (font caching) |
| 01:33:38 | amiconn | utf-8 itself works rather nice, even on archos |
| 01:33:40 | webguest58 | Should i really be talking in here, i feel in the way whilst your working |
| 01:33:52 | Rick | webguest58: you're not in the way |
| 01:34:13 | webguest58 | roger that rick |
| 01:34:55 | amiconn | It only adds ~500 bytes of code so far, and some minor fixups are needed (mostly using lcd_getstringsize() instead of strlen() for formatting |
| 01:37:36 | webguest58 | ok im off, keep doing what your doing, i like it, much appreciated |
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| 01:43:39 | tvelocity[away] | what about grayscale support? does it have any priority, or is it the last thing you plan to do? |
| 01:44:02 | preglow | it's done, just not integrated |
| 01:44:10 | tvelocity[away] | really? |
| 01:44:18 | preglow | need to agree on the internal framebuffer format |
| 01:44:18 | preglow | yes |
| 01:44:19 | rasher | okay, that was unpleasant |
| 01:44:22 | tvelocity[away] | taht's w00t |
| 01:44:38 | tvelocity[away] | rockboy is SOOOO cool ;) |
| 01:44:42 | rasher | translations really are in a sad state |
| 01:44:52 | preglow | not the norwegian one#!"%"# |
| 01:45:01 | rasher | or Danish!!! |
| 01:46:09 | tvelocity[away] | neither the greek one, starting from tomorow :P |
| 01:46:24 | rasher | excellent |
| 01:47:49 | Rick | yes, rockbox is great |
| 01:47:51 | Rick | er |
| 01:47:51 | Rick | boy |
| 01:47:56 | Rick | rockbox is great too though ;) |
| 01:48:13 | tvelocity[away] | let's hope the language files are not too complicated. i assume they're plain text? |
| 01:48:29 | Rick | probably |
| 01:48:34 | rasher | Yes, there's a tool to help you |
| 01:49:49 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoUpdateLangfile |
| 01:49:49 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoUpdateLangfile |
| 01:49:53 | Bagder | hah |
| 01:49:55 | rasher | excellent |
| 01:50:29 | * | rasher ponders posting his list of language-files and their age to the mailing list |
| 01:50:58 | Bagder | I plan to write a script that shows the 10 oldest bug reports/feature requests on the site |
| 01:51:28 | Bagder | to encourage action |
| 01:51:40 | amiconn | rasher: The age doesn't necessarily tell us much. For the language files, the percentage of strings still covered would be very interesting |
| 01:51:56 | rasher | amiconn: that would require real work though :) |
| 01:51:57 | Bagder | just run uplang on them and count the comments |
| 01:52:07 | amiconn | Uh oh.... |
| 01:52:23 | rasher | Hm |
| 01:52:25 | rasher | sounds like fun |
| 01:52:35 | rasher | I'll try |
| 01:53:04 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK rasher |
| 01:53:04 | rasher | first I need a terminal that isn't translucent and RED |
| 01:53:35 | Bagder | <g> |
| 01:53:44 | tvelocity[away] | what? there are terminals out there that are not black? OMG people are sick:P |
| 01:54:25 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 01:54:25 | * | Rick paints tvelocity[away] a bright purple |
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| 01:55:16 | tvelocity[away] | hm maybe you should go to a bad-taste-contest |
| 01:55:24 | amiconn | Probably still better than looking at x11 programming docs :/ |
| 01:55:37 | rasher | very probable |
| 01:57:30 | preglow | non-black background terminals are satan |
| 01:58:00 | preglow | i tried moving imdct_s to an asm file, and now it doesn't work anymore |
| 01:58:02 | preglow | three cheers to me |
| 01:59:18 | rasher | that's harsh, preglow :_( |
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| 02:04:24 | rasher | I am now creating bash evil |
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| 02:06:11 | tvelocity[away] | hm translating seams pretty simple |
| 02:08:22 | rasher | it pretty much is |
| 02:08:39 | rasher | except for all those words which you don't knoooow how to translate :) |
| 02:08:46 | tvelocity[away] | yeah indeed |
| 02:14:11 | preglow | anyone want to take over the cf-mpegdec thing? |
| 02:14:16 | preglow | i won't have time to look at it |
| 02:14:23 | rasher | amiconn: hrm, actually.. how do I tell this percentage? |
| 02:15:00 | rasher | ah |
| 02:15:09 | rasher | just the number of empty "new: " lines? |
| 02:15:56 | rasher | Does indeed seem so |
| 02:16:06 | rasher | well that's easy then |
| 02:17:57 | rasher | ah, not quite |
| 02:18:03 | rasher | dammit :( |
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| 02:18:47 | tvelocity[away] | should i upercase every first word letter? |
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| 02:19:36 | rasher | Only if it seems right |
| 02:19:44 | rasher | do what makes most sense for greek |
| 02:19:59 | rasher | I didn't do that for Danish |
| 02:20:00 | preglow | slap me |
| 02:20:10 | * | rasher slaps preglow |
| 02:20:11 | preglow | i didn't do it for norwegian |
| 02:20:18 | preglow | only do it if it's usual in greek |
| 02:20:29 | tvelocity[away] | i really can't find a nice word for "buffer"... |
| 02:20:41 | preglow | that one was easy, heh |
| 02:21:00 | rasher | luckily, buffer is sortof accepted into Danish |
| 02:21:11 | preglow | it's a norwegian word |
| 02:21:30 | preglow | used in all the same contexts as in english |
| 02:21:59 | tvelocity[away] | i'll just leave it buffer (that's common in greek) |
| 02:22:13 | rasher | Argh, I'll have to add a check for deprecated strings to this script, I think |
| 02:23:12 | rasher | grep -c "new: $" was so easy.. but I guess that's not my kind of luck |
| 02:23:33 | preglow | quite a lot of deprecated strings |
| 02:23:40 | rasher | yup |
| 02:24:00 | rasher | I guess this is not really feasible as a bash script anymore |
| 02:24:15 | rasher | or I'll have to look at multiline sed... |
| 02:24:20 | rasher | which is pure horror |
| 02:24:37 | rasher | I bet if I knew awk it'd be suitable |
| 02:25:09 | preglow | perl... |
| 02:25:26 | * | rasher curls up in fetal position |
| 02:25:32 | tvelocity[away] | id: LANG_TIME_SET |
| 02:25:33 | tvelocity[away] | desc: used in set_time() |
| 02:25:33 | tvelocity[away] | eng: "ON To Set |
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| 02:25:39 | tvelocity[away] | on what context is that used? |
| 02:25:45 | rasher | http://stud.wsi.edu.pl/~robert/awk/ wow.. that's... colourful |
| 02:26:20 | rasher | It sounds like it's used for the devices with clocks |
| 02:26:21 | preglow | tvelocity[away]: press 'on' to set current time, i guerss |
| 02:26:39 | rasher | but I don't know... |
| 02:26:58 | tvelocity[away] | hm i c |
| 02:29:52 | preglow | haha |
| 02:30:09 | preglow | it never occured to me that having %sp be correct at all times is actually important |
| 02:30:38 | tvelocity[away] | id: LANG_DISCHARGE |
| 02:30:38 | tvelocity[away] | desc: DEPRECATED |
| 02:30:38 | tvelocity[away] | eng: "" |
| 02:30:45 | tvelocity[away] | should i keep this, or delete? |
| 02:30:50 | preglow | keep |
| 02:30:56 | tvelocity[away] | ok |
| 02:30:59 | rasher | new: |
| 02:31:01 | rasher | or new: "" |
| 02:31:10 | preglow | doesn't matter |
| 02:31:16 | rasher | indeed |
| 02:31:28 | rasher | but if the latter was required, it'd make my life easier :) |
| 02:33:18 | * | preglow pats himself on the back |
| 02:37:53 | preglow | nothing quite as satisfying as making an assembler routine even tighter |
| 02:38:05 | preglow | that's an overstatement, but you get it |
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| 02:47:56 | tvelocity[away] | clip hold time? |
| 02:49:40 | preglow | yes, you're getting to the hard ones ;) |
| 02:49:58 | tvelocity[away] | the other guy left it unchanged |
| 02:50:13 | tvelocity[away] | what is it actually? |
| 02:50:55 | rasher | haha, I have absolutely no idea |
| 02:50:57 | preglow | i guess the peak meters indicate when the sound has clipped |
| 02:51:08 | preglow | and that setting just decides how long until it forgets clipping has occured |
| 02:51:15 | rasher | I don't think I translated this string |
| 02:51:23 | rasher | new: "Klipfrysetid" |
| 02:51:25 | rasher | yuck |
| 02:53:13 | rasher | Hrm, awk is mocking me |
| 02:57:19 | tvelocity[away] | over 2/3 of the strings are ### Not previously translated |
| 02:57:29 | tvelocity[away] | looks that i have work to do:P |
| 02:57:44 | tvelocity[away] | s/that/like/ |
| 02:59:12 | preglow | tvelocity[away]: yes, i had to translate something around that as well, took me quite some hours |
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| 03:01:23 | tvelocity[away] | what is top off charge? |
| 03:02:34 | preglow | i have no idea |
| 03:02:44 | preglow | think i just used the english term there |
| 03:03:00 | rasher | I think it's a charging mode where it's filling the last bits of the battery |
| 03:03:16 | rasher | hurray! I have conquered awk |
| 03:03:36 | rasher | now to move it all inside this shell script |
| 03:05:04 | rasher | wow.. it Just Worked. |
| 03:05:56 | tvelocity[away] | hm... should i keep translating or should i go to bed? |
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| 03:06:12 | tvelocity[away] | i didn't know that translating is so addictive:P |
| 03:06:22 | preglow | hahah |
| 03:06:40 | preglow | i'll probably faint if i try coding imdct_l now |
| 03:06:43 | preglow | so i'll go to bed |
| 03:06:44 | preglow | good night, all |
| 03:06:51 | rasher | goodnight |
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| 03:07:48 | rasher | tvelocity[away]: 304 untranslated strings if my script is correct |
| 03:07:53 | rasher | have fun :) |
| 03:08:08 | rasher | Bagder: do you want this script? |
| 03:08:08 | tvelocity[away] | ;P |
| 03:08:26 | tvelocity[away] | i believe i'll have it ready tomorow at noon |
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| 05:32:51 | Soul_Eater | holy crap |
| 05:32:56 | Soul_Eater | i got mp3s working on rbx |
| 05:48:07 | Rick | in what? |
| 05:48:11 | Rick | player |
| 05:48:15 | Rick | er, device |
| 05:48:16 | Rick | ;P |
| 05:51:48 | Soul_Eater | iriver |
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| 05:58:42 | Rick | really? |
| 05:58:44 | Rick | nifty |
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| 05:58:50 | Rick | Soul_Eater: how are you playing it? |
| 05:58:54 | Rick | did someone update cvs or something? |
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| 06:04:35 | Soul_Eater | sucker |
| 06:04:42 | Soul_Eater | i just wanted to see if anyone was paying attention |
| 06:04:43 | Soul_Eater | hehe |
| 06:08:54 | * | Rick kicks Soul_Eater |
| 06:10:23 | * | Soul_Eater punches Rick |
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| 07:11:29 | Soul_Eater | any c/c++ coders around |
| 07:13:52 | LinusN | yup |
| 07:15:16 | Soul_Eater | I dont want to distract you of all people from any work of importance youre doing, but I'm having some programming woes myself. |
| 07:17:26 | LinusN | shoot |
| 07:22:43 | Rick | ask away ;P |
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| 08:47:02 | * | LinusN is very tired... |
| 08:49:16 | * | dwihno hands Linus a huge canister of coffee |
| 08:50:30 | LinusN | aaah, that's better |
| 08:52:10 | dwihno | :D |
| 08:53:55 | LinusN | your archos is still alive? |
| 08:54:03 | dwihno | alive and kicking! |
| 08:54:08 | LinusN | nice |
| 08:54:22 | LinusN | must have been hard to be without it for so long |
| 08:54:32 | dwihno | The new diodes made it so much better! |
| 08:54:37 | LinusN | hehe |
| 08:54:52 | dwihno | this is how it should've been from the start |
| 08:54:58 | Bagder | white modded I guess? |
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| 08:55:17 | LinusN | yeah |
| 08:55:30 | Bagder | I love that |
| 08:55:46 | LinusN | feels like a whole new player |
| 08:55:47 | dwihno | Once you gone white, the green light is horrible |
| 08:55:51 | dwihno | exactly! |
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| 09:03:53 | dwihno | the jpeg plugin should abort on stop, imho ;) |
| 09:04:03 | LinusN | send us a patch |
| 09:04:25 | dwihno | ;) |
| 09:05:22 | LinusN | i've been tninking about the rockbox grayscale support |
| 09:05:38 | LinusN | i think the internal framebuffer format should be target specific |
| 09:05:51 | dwihno | I just grepped the source tree for \t and found a whole bunch (just thought you might want to know) |
| 09:06:02 | dwihno | I agree |
| 09:06:08 | LinusN | and not 1 byte per pixel |
| 09:07:26 | LinusN | if we have 1 byte per pixel, the frame buffer gets quite large |
| 09:07:45 | Bagder | a lot of bits wasted |
| 09:07:47 | LinusN | and it won't fit in the internal ram |
| 09:07:57 | LinusN | making it a lot slower |
| 09:08:18 | dwihno | that reminds me |
| 09:08:26 | dwihno | *dig for a file* |
| 09:09:14 | LinusN | markuns grayscale patch for iriver looks quite nice |
| 09:09:18 | amiconn | dwihno: What do you mean, the jpeg plugin should abort on stop? It does exit on stop... |
| 09:09:26 | dwihno | amiconn: abort on stop |
| 09:09:30 | amiconn | ? |
| 09:09:36 | dwihno | abort loading if stop is pressed |
| 09:09:47 | amiconn | Ah, you mean during decoding? |
| 09:09:51 | dwihno | mhm :) |
| 09:10:03 | amiconn | Hmm, can't think of a reason for that... |
| 09:10:47 | amiconn | ...but shouldn't be hard to add either |
| 09:12:12 | Schnueff | moin |
| 09:12:47 | LinusN | Schnueff: moo |
| 09:12:54 | Schnueff | just uploaded bug report [1161173] + patch, if someone likes to look at it |
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| 09:22:28 | LinusN | Schnueff: committed, thanks! |
| 09:25:59 | Schnueff | how irc speeds up things :) |
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| 09:46:05 | Heidel | wann wהr denn der? |
| 09:46:24 | Heidel | sorry, wrong channel |
| 09:49:01 | Bagder | aha |
| 09:49:04 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 09:49:39 | dwihno | Die Kartoffel sind wie immer kaputtgegangen |
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| 10:00:26 | Schnueff | musst Du die Kartoffeln reparieren |
| 10:03:16 | LinusN | ich habe Kartoffeln in mein Floppylaufwerke |
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| 10:04:00 | El_Gringo | Hi |
| 10:04:05 | LinusN | ho |
| 10:04:24 | El_Gringo | I can't compile rockbox from the daily builds ! :-( |
| 10:05:02 | LinusN | poor you |
| 10:05:10 | El_Gringo | Yesterday, I builded the right rockbox compilation environement for m68k |
| 10:05:29 | El_Gringo | But today, I've too many errors in compiling ! |
| 10:05:33 | El_Gringo | yes, poor me ! |
| 10:05:43 | LinusN | what errors? |
| 10:05:54 | El_Gringo | with codecs |
| 10:06:14 | dwihno | :D |
| 10:06:26 | dwihno | Floppylaufwerke \o/ :) |
| 10:06:28 | El_Gringo | a file : codec.h is not present |
| 10:06:28 | Schnueff | ah that reminds me. my simulator was buggy because LITTLE_ENDIAN should have been set, but wasnt. i use gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-2), where is LITTLE_DEBIAN meant to be set (cf. dbtree.c) |
| 10:06:50 | Schnueff | (on x86) |
| 10:07:34 | LinusN | El_Gringo: do you get the code from .tar files or directly from cvs? |
| 10:07:45 | El_Gringo | from the tar file |
| 10:07:53 | El_Gringo | I souldn't have ? |
| 10:08:25 | LinusN | just trying to pinpoint the problem |
| 10:08:43 | El_Gringo | u ? |
| 10:09:16 | LinusN | codec.h should be in apps/codec/codec.h |
| 10:09:30 | El_Gringo | and isn't ! |
| 10:09:48 | El_Gringo | who stoled the codec.h !? |
| 10:10:07 | LinusN | must be something wrong with the .tar file generation |
| 10:10:13 | Bagder | FILES needs patch |
| 10:10:24 | Bagder | me fix |
| 10:10:25 | LinusN | me fix |
| 10:10:27 | LinusN | :-) |
| 10:10:29 | Schnueff | heh |
| 10:10:33 | Bagder | race! |
| 10:10:35 | El_Gringo | beacause in the CVS, it's ok ? |
| 10:10:39 | Bagder | El_Gringo: yes |
| 10:11:11 | El_Gringo | ok, so, I'm going to take rockbox from the cvs |
| 10:11:23 | Bagder | that's more comfortable anyway |
| 10:11:28 | LinusN | i won! |
| 10:11:36 | Schnueff | grats |
| 10:11:41 | * | Bagder curses |
| 10:12:05 | El_Gringo | and, after I removed the codecs compilation in the right makefile, I had an other error : cannot find -lmad . It must beacause of a removed the libmad compilation |
| 10:12:07 | El_Gringo | right ? |
| 10:12:28 | LinusN | yes |
| 10:12:41 | El_Gringo | ok |
| 10:12:56 | El_Gringo | One day, I'll try to compile rockbox ! |
| 10:13:03 | LinusN | why not today? |
| 10:13:20 | LinusN | "what are you going to compile today?" |
| 10:13:22 | Bagder | its not very hard |
| 10:13:23 | El_Gringo | why not !? you're right ! |
| 10:13:32 | Schnueff | another one: when building clean from CVS, file.h is not found |
| 10:13:38 | LinusN | huh? |
| 10:13:53 | Schnueff | mpegplay.c:27:18: file.h: No such file or directory |
| 10:13:53 | Schnueff | In file included from mpegplay.c:30: |
| 10:13:55 | Schnueff | ... |
| 10:14:07 | El_Gringo | it's a little bit hard for someone who ever worked with Visual C++, on Windows, etc... |
| 10:14:14 | Bagder | file.h is in firmware/include |
| 10:14:27 | Schnueff | yeah, but the include path doesnt seem to be set up right |
| 10:14:35 | Schnueff | if i copy it in the build directory, it worx |
| 10:14:41 | LinusN | Schnueff: which platform? |
| 10:14:47 | Bagder | that sounds weird |
| 10:14:48 | Schnueff | x86, debian |
| 10:14:52 | Bagder | it builds fine for many |
| 10:14:57 | El_Gringo | "One day, I'll try to compile rockbox !" => it was an error, sorry, my english is far from be perfect ! |
| 10:15:18 | LinusN | Schnueff: did you rerun tools/configure? |
| 10:15:22 | Schnueff | maybe because of #include "file.h" |
| 10:15:24 | Schnueff | in id3.h ? |
| 10:15:27 | Schnueff | yeah, ran that |
| 10:15:32 | Schnueff | should that be #include <file.h> ? |
| 10:15:37 | LinusN | no |
| 10:15:41 | Schnueff | hm ok |
| 10:16:02 | Schnueff | (recorder, simulator version) |
| 10:16:11 | LinusN | simulator... |
| 10:17:35 | Schnueff | hm i'll check with a source tarball |
| 10:17:42 | LinusN | no, no |
| 10:18:04 | LinusN | if ot doesn't work with cvs, it sure won't work with a tarball |
| 10:18:20 | Bagder | the cvs builds work on the site |
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| 10:18:24 | Bagder | and that is a debian too |
| 10:18:32 | Schnueff | unless i messed something up locally here |
| 10:18:39 | LinusN | and i just did a fresh build on debian too |
| 10:18:57 | LinusN | Schnueff: cvs diff? |
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| 10:20:11 | El_Gringo | p |
| 10:20:29 | Schnueff | yeah some change that should not have been there .. sorry for false alarm |
| 10:21:01 | Schnueff | now, let me check again with the endianness issue |
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| 10:21:31 | Schnueff | yeah that still persists |
| 10:21:50 | El_Gringo | grrr |
| 10:22:02 | El_Gringo | now : lot of errors in mpeg.c |
| 10:22:29 | Schnueff | wrong endianness (LITTLE_ENDIAN not set?) causes failed initialization in dbtree.c (Unsupported Database Version 82) 82 =='R' |
| 10:22:37 | Schnueff | (on simulator) |
| 10:23:05 | LinusN | El_Gringo: errors? |
| 10:23:57 | El_Gringo | lot of errors in mpeg.c , but only in debug mode. maybe because I failed to compile/install gdb |
| 10:24:42 | LinusN | debug mode is only for SH targets, and only needed if debugging with a serial port |
| 10:24:59 | El_Gringo | ho, ok |
| 10:25:19 | LinusN | one day we might develop a gdb stup for coldfire |
| 10:25:21 | El_Gringo | not with the simulator ? |
| 10:25:22 | LinusN | stub |
| 10:25:30 | LinusN | simulator is simulator |
| 10:25:30 | Bagder | El_Gringo: nope |
| 10:26:06 | Bagder | LinusN: did you see amiconn's reportings? the cross-compiled win32 sim builds works like charm now |
| 10:26:13 | LinusN | c00l! |
| 10:26:19 | Bagder | including plugins and everything |
| 10:26:22 | LinusN | wow |
| 10:26:25 | El_Gringo | great, I just build rockbox for the first time ! |
| 10:26:39 | LinusN | El_Gringo: congrats |
| 10:27:12 | El_Gringo | And my first linux compilation (excluding binutils and gcc, yesterday) |
| 10:27:21 | El_Gringo | thanks for your help |
| 10:28:40 | LinusN | you're welcome |
| 10:28:53 | Schnueff | hm |
| 10:29:20 | LinusN | i wonder what we should do with the ENDIAN problem |
| 10:29:27 | Schnueff | mein stdlib.h defines __LITTLE_ENDIAN instead it seems |
| 10:29:31 | Schnueff | my :) stdlib.h defines __LITTLE_ENDIAN instead it seems |
| 10:29:38 | Schnueff | and then later on: |
| 10:29:40 | Schnueff | #ifdef __USE_BSD |
| 10:29:43 | Schnueff | # define LITTLE_ENDIAN __LITTLE_ENDIAN |
| 10:29:45 | Schnueff | #endif |
| 10:29:55 | Schnueff | so LITTLE_ENDIAN is not active... |
| 10:30:18 | LinusN | so we could check for both |
| 10:30:25 | Schnueff | yeah probably |
| 10:30:31 | LinusN | try that |
| 10:30:31 | Schnueff | lemme check |
| 10:30:53 | * | LinusN thinks the compiler should define the ENDIAN macros |
| 10:32:04 | Bagder | we could make a check and let configure set a define |
| 10:32:29 | Schnueff | btw, apps/codecs/Tremor/misc.h also uses a third form (#if BYTE_ORDER==LITTLE_ENDIAN) |
| 10:32:40 | Bagder | yeah, we should cleanup the mess |
| 10:38:53 | Schnueff | hm w8 a sec .. |
| 10:39:40 | Schnueff | my stdlib.h defines all the macros .. but they dont seem to get through to CC dbtree.c |
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| 10:40:17 | Bagder | no, rockbox has its own stdlib.h |
| 10:40:21 | Schnueff | ah |
| 10:40:27 | Bagder | firmware/include/stdlib.h |
| 10:40:52 | Schnueff | so where does endianness come from? |
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| 10:41:00 | Schnueff | (its still a simulator build...) |
| 10:41:38 | Bagder | I don't know |
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| 10:42:03 | Bagder | I've been arguing to set the define in a central place, at configure time |
| 10:42:21 | Schnueff | is there a way to make CC dbtree.c |
| 10:42:23 | Schnueff | more verbose? |
| 10:42:30 | Bagder | yes, edit tools/make.inc |
| 10:42:33 | Bagder | remove the @ |
| 10:42:37 | Schnueff | k |
| 10:42:57 | Bagder | (we should make it possible to do that without edits) |
| 10:43:29 | Bagder | in linux kernel land it is made with 'make V=1' |
| 10:43:53 | LinusN | Bagder: let's do the same |
| 10:44:01 | * | Bagder is on yet another close-requests venture |
| 10:45:40 | Bagder | btw, we should write a wiki page for general "what about Rockbox for player XXX" questions/suggestions |
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| 10:45:51 | Bagder | including hints on how people could proceed |
| 10:46:05 | Schnueff | so, my problem is that gcc should define *_{ENDIAN,ORDER} out of the box but it does only so when including /usr/include/stdlib.h ? |
| 10:46:35 | LinusN | sounds so |
| 10:46:48 | Schnueff | ok |
| 10:47:20 | Bagder | gcc doesn't do that |
| 10:47:23 | Bagder | for me |
| 10:47:28 | Bagder | gcc -E -dM -xc /dev/null |
| 10:47:33 | Seed | Bagder: how well is Tremor working, btw? |
| 10:47:49 | Schnueff | but if your gcc doesnt also do it how does it work at all? |
| 10:47:57 | Bagder | Seed: seems to be progressing, even if a little slow still |
| 10:48:06 | Seed | is it not 100% speed yet? |
| 10:48:20 | Bagder | Seed: I think it is slightly over 100, but we want more |
| 10:48:23 | LinusN | Schnueff: there are few places where the endianness matters |
| 10:48:31 | Seed | Bagder: I really hope libmusepack is easier for you to work with |
| 10:48:37 | Schnueff | ah ok, so possibly know noticed yet |
| 10:48:42 | Schnueff | know one even |
| 10:48:49 | LinusN | noone |
| 10:48:58 | Bagder | Seed: I hope so too, but it is also less prioritized |
| 10:49:01 | Schnueff | no one even! :) |
| 10:49:20 | Seed | Bagder: why? :) |
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| 10:50:29 | Bagder | Seed: judging from what people seem to prefer to work on... |
| 10:50:42 | Bagder | I guess people have more mp3 and ogg files |
| 10:50:48 | LinusN | verbose build support with V=1 committed |
| 10:50:56 | Bagder | goodie |
| 10:52:09 | Seed | Bagder: I'll sponsor good headphones and free MPCs for everyone :D |
| 10:52:17 | Bagder | hehe |
| 10:52:46 | Bagder | Seed: get yourself an iRiver and join in ;-) |
| 10:53:04 | Seed | I have one |
| 10:53:08 | Bagder | ah |
| 10:53:12 | Bagder | then go go go |
| 10:53:18 | Seed | IMP-250 ;) |
| 10:53:49 | Seed | as old as myself |
| 10:54:26 | Seed | will never run anything like RockBox, even though it has the power to |
| 10:54:54 | Bagder | never say never ;-) |
| 10:55:02 | Bagder | mad people work on this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverIfpPort |
| 10:55:17 | Seed | interesting |
| 10:55:18 | LinusN | Seed: is musepack fixed or floating point? |
| 10:55:41 | Seed | both |
| 10:56:41 | LinusN | so you can compile a fixed-point version? |
| 10:56:58 | Seed | yes |
| 10:57:06 | LinusN | nice |
| 10:59:15 | Seed | I only have xscale speed measurements, though |
| 10:59:28 | Seed | without any optims, 1000% speed on a 400 MHz one |
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| 11:00:20 | Seed | "Switchable fixed-point and floating-point modes - enable/disable "#define MPC_FIXED_POINT" in mpc_math.h" |
| 11:00:43 | Bagder | I think xscale's faster than coldfire |
| 11:01:41 | Seed | yes |
| 11:01:54 | Seed | but it should still be around 200% on a 120 MHz Coldfire |
| 11:02:07 | Bagder | yeps |
| 11:02:35 | Bagder | hopefully |
| 11:05:22 | Seed | Bagder: have you looked at the code in v1.1? |
| 11:05:38 | Bagder | nope |
| 11:08:06 | Seed | gotta move. bbl :) |
| 11:09:11 | LinusN | cu |
| 11:16:18 | LinusN | lunch |
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| 12:36:36 | El_Gringo | There's no documentation for the plugin API ? |
| 12:36:58 | preglow | plugin.h should be good enough |
| 12:37:04 | Bagder | docs/PLUGIN_API |
| 12:37:23 | El_Gringo | plugin.h don't document all functions |
| 12:37:29 | El_Gringo | thanks Badger |
| 12:38:10 | dwihno | Are there any replacement batteries available for the ihp1x0-models, or do you have to "refurbish" it? |
| 12:38:18 | preglow | there are batteries available |
| 12:38:43 | preglow | www.dapstore.com sells one |
| 12:38:53 | preglow | don't know of anyone that has tried it, though |
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| 12:41:22 | dwihno | aah |
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| 12:41:31 | dwihno | I'm SO getting a ihp-140 |
| 12:48:52 | * | LinusN got the data sheets for the H1xx remote control LCD |
| 12:48:58 | dwihno | Way! |
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| 12:53:00 | preglow | woop |
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| 12:53:35 | preglow | i suspect we'll be stuck in the rut we are right now on that front as well, though, have the code to make it work, but haven't agreed on how to do the api |
| 12:53:38 | preglow | heh |
| 12:54:47 | preglow | LinusN: i saw your thoughts on the framebuffer format in the logs, btw, does that mean markun can pretty much just put it in cvs soon? |
| 12:54:59 | preglow | grayscale support, that is |
| 12:55:45 | LinusN | i have a few thing to check first |
| 12:55:48 | LinusN | things |
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| 12:56:11 | tvelocity[away] | how many shades of grey does ihp-1xx actually support? |
| 12:56:20 | preglow | 4 |
| 12:56:21 | LinusN | 4 |
| 12:56:32 | Bagder | black, white and two grey |
| 12:56:35 | LinusN | black, white and two shades |
| 12:56:38 | LinusN | :-) |
| 12:56:39 | preglow | haha |
| 12:56:41 | Bagder | haha |
| 12:56:46 | tvelocity[away] | wow, just enough to play gameboy games ;) |
| 12:56:51 | LinusN | echo, echo, echo... |
| 12:56:54 | preglow | this is just getting silly, the last six lines are near duplicates |
| 12:57:08 | LinusN | @echo off |
| 12:57:13 | preglow | ought to help |
| 12:57:33 | preglow | to top it off, the shades are user-definable! |
| 12:57:42 | preglow | from a three bit palette, i think |
| 12:57:57 | LinusN | yeah, they can be grey, grey or grey |
| 12:57:57 | tvelocity[away] | so we actually have 8 shades? |
| 12:58:12 | LinusN | only 4 simultaneously |
| 12:58:18 | preglow | six, two of them are white and black, i think |
| 12:58:26 | preglow | might be mistaken |
| 12:58:31 | LinusN | you are correct |
| 12:58:41 | tvelocity[away] | 4 shades are more than enough |
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| 12:59:03 | LinusN | i'm thinking of committing the grayscale patch, we can always change it later |
| 12:59:15 | Bagder | sounds fair |
| 12:59:19 | tvelocity[away] | do it! i want to play donkey kong land!!! |
| 12:59:21 | preglow | well, yes, unless it plain doesn't work |
| 12:59:22 | tvelocity[away] | :P |
| 12:59:26 | LinusN | it works |
| 12:59:30 | preglow | then i say go for it |
| 12:59:57 | LinusN | it slows down the font output though |
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| 13:01:06 | preglow | why? |
| 13:01:42 | Bagder | because of how it is imlemented |
| 13:01:52 | LinusN | the fonts are still b&w |
| 13:01:52 | Bagder | the easy way, rather than the fast way |
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| 13:02:15 | preglow | well, yes, but can't see why that can't be fixed some day |
| 13:02:22 | LinusN | of course |
| 13:05:14 | preglow | but i'll go fetch some food and try my hand at imdct_l |
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| 13:20:31 | HCl | yawn |
| 13:33:16 | tvelocity[away] | yeah, i finished translating! |
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| 13:34:13 | preglow | time to look over everything you've done and look for mistakes, then :P |
| 13:35:47 | tvelocity[away] | should be ok i think:P |
| 13:36:43 | tvelocity[away] | should i submit it as a bug report, or just DCC it to someone? |
| 13:37:34 | preglow | amiconn took care of our translations |
| 13:37:40 | LinusN | submit it as a patch |
| 13:42:48 | tvelocity[away] | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1161324&group_id=44306&atid=439118 |
| 13:46:53 | Rick | <LinusN> i'm thinking of committing the grayscale patch, we can always change it later |
| 13:46:56 | Rick | are you referring to markun's? |
| 13:47:14 | Rick | ah, nevermind |
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| 13:47:18 | Rick | the slowdown was already mentioned |
| 13:47:28 | Rick | (it _really_ slows down scrolling in menus) |
| 13:47:51 | LinusN | yes it does |
| 13:48:04 | Rick | there's also a bug that I made a crappy patch for |
| 13:48:17 | Rick | (plugin exit does not reset fg/bg color) |
| 13:48:24 | LinusN | tvelocity[away]: i said "patch", not "bug report" |
| 13:48:51 | LinusN | Rick: saw that |
| 13:48:56 | tvelocity[away] | hm i didnt know there was a diference |
| 13:49:06 | LinusN | a bug is not a patch :-) |
| 13:49:09 | tvelocity[away] | most projects use bug reports for everything |
| 13:49:16 | LinusN | i can fix that, don't worry |
| 13:49:21 | tvelocity[away] | even for feature requests et c |
| 13:49:37 | tvelocity[away] | anyway i'll do it irght next time:P |
| 13:49:42 | preglow | ahh, yes, but we don't use bugzilla :P |
| 13:50:54 | tvelocity[away] | i've never used something other than bugzilla till now |
| 13:50:56 | tvelocity[away] | :P |
| 13:51:29 | LinusN | stop bugging us! :-) |
| 13:51:34 | Rick | hehe |
| 13:51:48 | Rick | does the remote have grayscale as well? |
| 13:51:52 | LinusN | no |
| 13:51:56 | Rick | thought so |
| 13:52:08 | dwihno | doesn't really matter |
| 13:52:20 | Rick | dwihno: why not? |
| 13:52:22 | Bagder | what's the res (X x Y) of the remote LCD? |
| 13:52:40 | Rick | my guess, like 48x128 or something |
| 13:52:51 | Rick | er |
| 13:52:53 | dwihno | Rick: I've been running rockbox for ages, and I can't see why grayscale is such a needed feature... I mean, the only thing I see useful for the remote is antialiased fonts :) |
| 13:52:54 | Rick | 128x48 |
| 13:53:10 | Rick | dwihno: oh, in rockbox itself, no need |
| 13:53:16 | Rick | but there are plugins that can take advantage of it |
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| 13:56:17 | preglow | it'd be stupid not to take advantage of it when we have grayscale support |
| 13:56:40 | dwihno | true, but if the hardware lacks grayscale, it's not such a big loss |
| 13:57:18 | Rick | the problem now is just speed |
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| 14:18:34 | sox | hoy all, this is the everlasting question I guess, almost in class of "Does God exist..." but, how's the status on sound on iriver? The codecs are doing pretty good now right? mad and flac are well over 100%... I don't want to be added to the list of annoying bugging people, but Im just curious as hell.... |
| 14:19:48 | LinusN | we haven't worked on the sound api yet |
| 14:20:52 | LinusN | if someone magically creates a crack in time, i might be able to work on both rockbox and still have a life |
| 14:21:45 | sox | Hey Linus, I sure understand that (I got a kid and two jobs too!) and dont want to bug anyone about, but Im just curious, there must be a reason to why you havent started on the sound api, right? |
| 14:22:04 | preglow | people generally seem to have little rockbox time these days |
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| 14:22:18 | sox | (cuz time tend to come out of black holes sometimes when you want something really much) |
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| 14:24:47 | LinusN | sox: my life is a little more complicated that most people's |
| 14:24:52 | LinusN | than |
| 14:25:14 | sox | I wish I could ask you about it, but you probably wouldn't answer here anyway...? |
| 14:25:29 | LinusN | the old rockboxers know about it |
| 14:25:50 | LinusN | i have a very sick wife |
| 14:25:54 | LinusN | and two kids |
| 14:26:03 | sox | ah |
| 14:26:44 | sox | so rockbox work is like meditation to you? |
| 14:26:46 | dwihno | A vacation from the project would do you good, Linus. |
| 14:26:51 | LinusN | sox: sort of |
| 14:26:59 | sox | i recognize that |
| 14:27:13 | LinusN | but that meditation has to take place in the night... |
| 14:28:02 | LinusN | dwihno: sometimes i think a vacation from my life would do me even better :-) |
| 14:28:05 | sox | how old are your kids? |
| 14:28:12 | LinusN | 2 and 5 |
| 14:28:45 | LinusN | speaking of life, i have to go now |
| 14:29:13 | sox | then i know what you're talking about, cuz night is short when you need to wake up and go to daycare, work, pick up kids again etc etc |
| 14:29:29 | LinusN | indeed |
| 14:29:53 | LinusN | and it's not like rockbox is the only spare time project either :-) |
| 14:30:00 | sox | well, you're doing a great job with all your tasks anyway Im sure! |
| 14:30:44 | sox | maybe you should start some weird decipher project instead of rockbox so that gizmo lovers wouldnt bug you everyday for whatnows... |
| 14:30:54 | LinusN | hehe |
| 14:30:54 | sox | only joking |
| 14:31:42 | sox | but seriously, good information to the users is always a good way to get rid of painful support-like situations, and rockbox website is great at that |
| 14:31:58 | LinusN | can always be better |
| 14:32:05 | LinusN | how old are your kids btw? |
| 14:32:13 | sox | but to make the "new" iriver users happy a more detailed status page would maybe ease the pressure |
| 14:32:21 | preglow | sox: there is a status page |
| 14:32:30 | sox | i got a daughter age 2,5 |
| 14:32:34 | preglow | more detailed, perhaps |
| 14:32:43 | LinusN | sox, that's a really fun age |
| 14:33:15 | sox | preglow: exactly, like, codec status, why the api work hasnt started, time estimations, that kind of stuff that would keep them/us away from you and your vauable dev time |
| 14:33:34 | LinusN | time estimations is a no-no, if you ask me |
| 14:33:39 | sox | LinusN: it is! she's wonderful. |
| 14:33:43 | preglow | of course, we have no ideas |
| 14:34:01 | LinusN | i have to run, take care all |
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| 14:34:43 | sox | I understand that time est are hard, but since that's what everyone are after, some lies might be a good decoy ;-) |
| 14:35:09 | preglow | haha, no, i don't think so |
| 14:35:12 | preglow | 'cause we really have no idea |
| 14:35:29 | sox | then let's guess! |
| 14:35:43 | sox | iriver sound: 1,5 year |
| 14:35:49 | preglow | but i really don't want to put up an estimate i don't think we can make |
| 14:35:50 | sox | ;P |
| 14:36:10 | sox | preglow: you are right of course |
| 14:36:56 | sox | and that's why small DIY projects like these are fun I guess, cuz they're different from regular life with things going as planned all the time |
| 14:37:08 | sox | (small was wrong word!) |
| 14:37:20 | preglow | well, kind of, i sure enjoy doing stuff with no eta's |
| 14:37:53 | preglow | but i haven't got much time to spare today, so i'll go back to coding |
| 14:39:42 | sox | do that, good luck |
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| 15:41:08 | HCl | heh.. |
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| 16:19:31 | * | HCl stares at the sound driver a bit, pondered a hack to make it work temporarily a bit.. |
| 16:20:40 | HCl | but it doesn't seem very adaptable to a buffer that can reempty.. |
| 16:20:50 | * | HCl will analyze more later. |
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| 16:26:52 | * | rasher punches awk |
| 16:27:12 | rasher | Do what I want you to, not what I tell you to! |
| 16:28:28 | preglow | perl.. |
| 16:29:40 | rasher | I refuse |
| 16:32:17 | rasher | it's working, actually |
| 16:32:25 | rasher | I'm just prodding it to make the output nicer |
| 16:36:12 | rasher | rasher/langstatus.txt">http://zork.net/~rasher/langstatus.txt |
| 16:36:49 | preglow | looks good |
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| 16:37:10 | preglow | so, what does it do? uplang all the lang files and count number of nen deprecated new:'s ? |
| 16:37:15 | preglow | nen=non |
| 16:37:38 | rasher | Yup |
| 16:37:39 | Bagder_ | sort it on the numbers instead |
| 16:37:42 | Bagder_ | make a toplist! |
| 16:37:54 | preglow | \o/ |
| 16:38:17 | rasher | And non voice-strings |
| 16:38:41 | rasher | Hrm.. sorting would require a major reworking.. and possibly perl |
| 16:38:44 | rasher | :-\ |
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| 16:38:49 | Bagder_ | | sort ? |
| 16:38:59 | tvelocity[away] | just do it in bash:P |
| 16:39:02 | rasher | good point |
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| 16:45:07 | HCl | mrf... |
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| 16:50:23 | HCl | mrf.. |
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| 17:11:16 | rasher | rasher/langstatus.txt">http://zork.net/~rasher/langstatus.txt |
| 17:12:12 | preglow | looks good |
| 17:12:42 | rasher | of course, now the language names are sorted by length :) |
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| 17:22:29 | Lynx_awy | how many stings are there in rockbox? |
| 17:22:52 | preglow | strings? |
| 17:24:32 | Lynx_awy | to translate, words in the interface? |
| 17:24:51 | preglow | i bet rasher can answer that |
| 17:25:20 | rasher | oh.. hang on |
| 17:25:25 | Lynx_awy | just because i thought 277 was already a lot, and that's just the untranslated ones in afrikaans |
| 17:28:14 | T0mas | hm... little c/c++ question... |
| 17:28:24 | T0mas | int a = (200 << 16); |
| 17:28:28 | T0mas | what does it do? |
| 17:29:12 | rasher | shifts 200 16 places to the left |
| 17:29:26 | T0mas | and... what does that mean? |
| 17:29:36 | rasher | :) |
| 17:29:37 | preglow | it's the same as 200 * (2^(16 - 1) |
| 17:29:37 | T0mas | 200 = 11001000 |
| 17:30:16 | T0mas | ok, but that shift thing... isn't that the same as moving 11001000 16 bits to the left? |
| 17:30:21 | rasher | Lynx_awy: 378 strings |
| 17:31:08 | rasher | T0mas: yup |
| 17:31:15 | T0mas | ok tnx |
| 17:34:47 | T0mas | hm... is there a way to get the n-th bit of a int/char ? |
| 17:35:33 | Lynx_awy | rasher: i would have guessed like 80 |
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| 17:36:23 | rasher | Heh |
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| 18:01:24 | preglow | seems i've gotten a mail from the wavpack developer |
| 18:01:29 | preglow | he's eager to help on porting it |
| 18:02:55 | rasher | Excellent |
| 18:03:00 | rasher | as in optimizing? |
| 18:03:29 | rasher | Because the port is done isn't it? |
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| 18:03:58 | Ya`aQob | mronig |
| 18:04:30 | rasher | Morning |
| 18:04:38 | rasher | if that's what you meant :) |
| 18:04:47 | Ya`aQob | yeah haaa |
| 18:05:15 | Ya`aQob | does rockbox support jukebox multimedia 20? |
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| 18:08:55 | Ya`aQob | anyone know how to format fat32 on Win XP? |
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| 18:09:21 | SirWA2 | hmm |
| 18:09:25 | rasher | I think XP will only format fat32 less than 32gb or something |
| 18:09:28 | rasher | but I'm not sure |
| 18:09:33 | Ya`aQob | ahhh |
| 18:09:34 | rasher | don't really use it much |
| 18:09:42 | SirWA2 | these are questions you can easely find on the inet.. |
| 18:09:45 | preglow | rasher: in optimizing, yes, he says he's got dsp experience as well as ideas of what to optimize |
| 18:09:49 | Ya`aQob | me neither but im trying to setup a new 2.5 for my archos |
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| 18:09:53 | Ya`aQob | it wants fat32 |
| 18:10:05 | rasher | preglow: well that's great news |
| 18:10:06 | SirWA2 | Ya`aQob..google it.. |
| 18:10:18 | preglow | rasher: deed |
| 18:10:24 | Cassandra | There's a program called SwissKnife which will format it for you. |
| 18:10:33 | Ya`aQob | seems like you guys may have done it though |
| 18:10:58 | Ya`aQob | Cassandra tahnk you! |
| 18:11:16 | Cassandra | You're welcome. |
| 18:12:20 | Ya`aQob | does rockbox support jukebox multimedia 20? |
| 18:13:43 | preglow | don't think so |
| 18:13:58 | SirWA2 | Ya`aQob look it up on rockbox website |
| 18:14:33 | Ya`aQob | i did, thats why im here |
| 18:14:35 | preglow | damn, seems like coffee is what's been causing some throat discomforts i've been having over the last half year |
| 18:14:38 | preglow | what a damn bummer |
| 18:14:59 | Ya`aQob | maybe its teh sugar or milk? |
| 18:15:10 | preglow | i don't add anything to it |
| 18:15:33 | Ya`aQob | how about tea? same thing? |
| 18:15:42 | preglow | no, that's what i've been drinking lately |
| 18:15:46 | Ya`aQob | i drink alot of tea and coffee, without additives |
| 18:15:54 | Cassandra | ya: No, I'm afraid it doesn't (support the MM20) |
| 18:15:58 | Ya`aQob | maybe an acid thing |
| 18:16:02 | preglow | yes, probably |
| 18:16:11 | preglow | i'll just have stop drinking coffe |
| 18:16:11 | preglow | e |
| 18:16:14 | preglow | and i love coffee :/ |
| 18:16:18 | Ya`aQob | Cassandra thank you, thats asmaed though |
| 18:16:22 | Ya`aQob | me too |
| 18:16:35 | Ya`aQob | what coffee brand are you drinking may i ask |
| 18:16:49 | preglow | nothing that's known outside of norway |
| 18:17:00 | Ya`aQob | ahh, preground espresso? |
| 18:17:07 | preglow | no espresso |
| 18:17:39 | Ya`aQob | try a very fresh ground coffee, or try a fresh ground lite coffee |
| 18:17:50 | preglow | i will |
| 18:18:12 | SirWA2 | i only drink irish coffee |
| 18:18:14 | Ya`aQob | i have pretty good coffee being close to afrika and south america |
| 18:18:22 | Ya`aQob | neverhad irish coffee |
| 18:18:44 | Ya`aQob | also if you filter, maybe concider a french press |
| 18:18:50 | SirWA2 | its coffee & whiskey |
| 18:19:04 | Ya`aQob | hate to see you give up such a wonderful benefit..haa |
| 18:19:07 | Ya`aQob | ahh ha |
| 18:19:21 | preglow | i'll probably work it out |
| 18:19:26 | Ya`aQob | yeaah |
| 18:19:37 | Ya`aQob | well get through this thing man! |
| 18:19:45 | preglow | might not be it anyway, but sure seems like it |
| 18:19:46 | Ya`aQob | stick with us . . . |
| 18:20:05 | preglow | don't worry, i won't kill myself until i can't have beer |
| 18:20:14 | Ya`aQob | i think tea has more caffeine anyway |
| 18:20:48 | preglow | coffee doesn't wake me up much anyway |
| 18:20:55 | preglow | it's more the taste i miss |
| 18:21:03 | rasher | masochist. |
| 18:21:42 | * | rasher hums.. o/~ du skal dansa ompa til du dרr o/~ |
| 18:22:18 | preglow | hahah |
| 18:23:51 | rasher | :) |
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| 18:46:50 | ultrapod | are you doing firmware to iriver h10? |
| 18:47:13 | Bagder | no |
| 18:47:25 | Bagder | at least no one works on that |
| 18:47:30 | Bagder | feel free to start! |
| 18:47:34 | Ya`aQob | thanks for the help folks ttyl |
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| 18:47:50 | preglow | haha |
| 18:47:54 | preglow | good luck in finding docs |
| 18:48:15 | Bagder | :-) |
| 18:48:25 | Bagder | they managed to do ipodlinux |
| 18:48:29 | preglow | they did |
| 18:48:49 | Bagder | but yes, its hard work |
| 18:49:09 | preglow | i daresay |
| 18:49:35 | ultrapod | i would |
| 18:49:51 | ultrapod | i know a bit programing |
| 18:50:00 | preglow | has anyone opened a h10 yet? |
| 18:50:36 | ultrapod | i saw you got the h100 |
| 18:52:14 | ultrapod | if i add the font i want to font dir will it play it? |
| 18:52:26 | ultrapod | had anyone tried it? |
| 18:52:33 | ultrapod | show* |
| 18:52:43 | preglow | it should show it then, yes |
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| 18:54:10 | ultrapod | even if it right to left language |
| 18:54:12 | ultrapod | ? |
| 18:54:31 | preglow | probably not |
| 18:54:46 | preglow | that info is not encoded in the fonts anyway |
| 18:54:58 | ultrapod | right |
| 18:55:02 | ultrapod | hmm |
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| 19:36:13 | Soul_Eater | any c/c++ coders around |
| 19:36:18 | preglow | yes |
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| 19:39:15 | Soul_Eater | ah. |
| 19:39:21 | Soul_Eater | problem: http://www.codeguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331403 |
| 19:40:49 | preglow | what is CHAR ? |
| 19:45:55 | preglow | do you know have strtok works? |
| 19:46:03 | preglow | how |
| 19:46:25 | preglow | the second parameter isn't what it searches for, it's what separates the tokens from each other |
| 19:47:11 | preglow | so if i've got "hello5yo5lol", strktok(mystring, "5") returns a pointer to "hello" the first time, a pointer to "yo" the second time, etc |
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| 19:53:23 | Laura | from strtok manpage: |
| 19:53:34 | Laura | BUGS: Never use these functions. |
| 19:53:38 | Laura | :) |
| 19:55:51 | preglow | never used strtok myself |
| 19:56:17 | preglow | it's a prime example of a routine it's better to write yourself |
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| 20:40:59 | Quelsaruk | late evening |
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| 20:46:08 | preglow | wilwheaton: what gives |
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| 20:46:54 | Strath | sorry, goofing around in #gmemu |
| 20:47:30 | Jyp | We're a buncha idiots :) |
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| 21:02:29 | preglow | http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/tremor/2005-March/001172.html |
| 21:02:31 | preglow | might be useful |
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| 21:07:04 | * | rasher sighs |
| 21:07:17 | rasher | cleaning spyware off my parents' computer... |
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| 21:09:05 | preglow | ahhh |
| 21:09:12 | preglow | that job also befalls me very often |
| 21:09:35 | rasher | I should set up an administrator account that only I have the password for |
| 21:09:41 | rasher | and vnc |
| 21:09:45 | preglow | indeed |
| 21:09:48 | rasher | so when they want to install something, they ask me |
| 21:09:51 | rasher | hrm |
| 21:10:00 | preglow | i put firefox on all the computers i clean, and tell people to use it |
| 21:10:04 | preglow | that goes a far way |
| 21:10:05 | rasher | I did that! |
| 21:10:13 | rasher | And yet, he used explorer :( |
| 21:10:23 | rasher | I specifically told him "use firefox!"' |
| 21:10:32 | rasher | the last thing I said before leaving the house |
| 21:10:35 | crwl | you can mangle IE's proxy settings, and set no proxy for windowsupdate.com |
| 21:10:50 | rasher | huh |
| 21:11:10 | crwl | it goes far away |
| 21:17:18 | Quelsaruk | hmm |
| 21:17:26 | Quelsaruk | btw, i have a strange issue in WinXP... |
| 21:17:32 | Quelsaruk | i pluged an external drive |
| 21:18:11 | rasher | crwl: I don't see the idea |
| 21:18:38 | Quelsaruk | windoze recognises it, but, doesn't assign it a drive letter... has anyone had this problem before? |
| 21:18:39 | crwl | rasher, why? |
| 21:19:29 | thegeek | Quelsaruk |
| 21:19:34 | thegeek | go to computer management |
| 21:19:42 | Quelsaruk | i'm there |
| 21:19:43 | thegeek | and assign the drive a drive letter |
| 21:19:48 | Quelsaruk | i can't |
| 21:19:57 | Quelsaruk | that's the strange thing :/ |
| 21:19:57 | thegeek | format it? |
| 21:20:01 | thegeek | hmm |
| 21:20:01 | thegeek | no |
| 21:20:09 | thegeek | should be able to assign a drive letter anyway |
| 21:20:10 | thegeek | wierd |
| 21:20:18 | Quelsaruk | i hoped i was able to keep the info |
| 21:20:50 | thegeek | you are in disk management right? |
| 21:20:57 | rasher | crwl: why would I set no proxy for windowsupdate.com? |
| 21:21:02 | Quelsaruk | yes, i am there |
| 21:21:04 | thegeek | k |
| 21:21:07 | thegeek | then I don't know;) |
| 21:21:10 | crwl | rasher, so that you can still access windows update |
| 21:21:20 | crwl | rasher, if the proxy settings are mangled so that you can't connect anywhere |
| 21:21:38 | Quelsaruk | thegeek: windows see the drive, tells me it has a ntfs format and that the drive is "ok"... but no letter :/ |
| 21:21:44 | thegeek | yeah |
| 21:21:46 | thegeek | linux ;) |
| 21:22:06 | thegeek | just copy what you need and reformat it and copy back |
| 21:22:58 | Quelsaruk | hehehe |
| 21:23:08 | rasher | crwl: ah, now I get it :) |
| 21:23:39 | Quelsaruk | but, does linux read ntfs ok right now? last time i tried to do that, ntfs support was in development |
| 21:24:00 | thegeek | it reads ok |
| 21:24:07 | thegeek | writes are not perfect yet, atleast I think so |
| 21:24:15 | thegeek | I've been more or less afk for the last 9 months |
| 21:24:16 | Quelsaruk | oh |
| 21:24:18 | Quelsaruk | great then |
| 21:24:20 | thegeek | military service |
| 21:24:21 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 21:24:54 | preglow | ahh |
| 21:25:00 | preglow | that's one thing i'm planning on avoiding |
| 21:25:39 | rasher | They didn't want me ^.^ |
| 21:26:01 | preglow | the didn't want me either, initially, and now i'm done with 5 five years of school, so now they'll probably want me |
| 21:26:10 | thegeek | hehe |
| 21:26:39 | thegeek | preglow : in case you actually have to go, apply for garden, that way you won't have as much time out in the field |
| 21:26:58 | preglow | oh, i won't go, hell no, i have no desire to spend a year in the military now |
| 21:27:17 | thegeek | if there is one thing I really hate it is sleeping in a tiny tent, with no lights, 10 other people around you, and having to get up and stand guard |
| 21:27:19 | preglow | i even bloody applied to do it before i moved up here, but nooo, they had to be difficult |
| 21:27:22 | thegeek | hahaha |
| 21:27:25 | thegeek | you applied? |
| 21:27:27 | thegeek | you crazy fuck |
| 21:27:33 | crwl | bah |
| 21:27:38 | preglow | well, they said they wanted me around winter times |
| 21:27:58 | crwl | is there conscription in norway? |
| 21:28:00 | preglow | and i was not about to do nothing for half a year just for that |
| 21:28:20 | preglow | crwl: yes |
| 21:28:24 | crwl | preglow, sucks. |
| 21:28:29 | thegeek | indeed |
| 21:28:29 | thegeek | hehe |
| 21:28:30 | preglow | crwl: indeed |
| 21:28:33 | crwl | indeed |
| 21:28:41 | crwl | (sucks in finland too, of course) |
| 21:28:42 | thegeek | but I got out after just 8~ months, instead of 12 |
| 21:29:01 | thegeek | because of economy |
| 21:29:06 | thegeek | hehe |
| 21:29:13 | thegeek | it rocks;) |
| 21:29:17 | rasher | I was dumped because I have asthma :) |
| 21:29:18 | preglow | hell yes |
| 21:29:20 | thegeek | almost as much as rockbox,) |
| 21:29:40 | preglow | if they call for me again, i'll invent something |
| 21:29:44 | thegeek | hehe |
| 21:30:00 | preglow | poor eyesight, missing legs, lacking brain, whatever |
| 21:30:33 | crwl | i'm doing my civilian service here in finland, 103/395 mornings remaining |
| 21:30:36 | thegeek | vondt i viljen;) |
| 21:30:52 | Quelsaruk | i don't have to do anything |
| 21:31:23 | Quelsaruk | obligatory military service has been canceled in Spain... |
| 21:31:23 | Quelsaruk | :P |
| 21:31:32 | crwl | so you're from a civilized country then :P |
| 21:31:38 | Quelsaruk | not really |
| 21:31:52 | Quelsaruk | but we try to make other countries think that ;) |
| 21:32:32 | preglow | spaniards civilized, that was a good one |
| 21:32:38 | crwl | :) |
| 21:33:13 | preglow | the ones around here are too busy waking me with screaming around 05:00 too have time to give me that impression |
| 21:33:26 | Quelsaruk | hehe |
| 21:33:27 | preglow | thegeek: if you're still planning on moving here, you'll find out soon enough |
| 21:34:00 | Quelsaruk | preglow: i told you... erasmus students.. doesn't matter if they are spanish or greek... even swedish |
| 21:34:10 | preglow | Quelsaruk: i know... |
| 21:34:19 | preglow | well, the only swede i know is pretty quiet |
| 21:34:22 | preglow | the italians or not |
| 21:34:22 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 21:34:28 | preglow | are |
| 21:34:53 | Quelsaruk | ok, i admit... latin countries are the worst... the craziest in the world |
| 21:34:59 | Quelsaruk | so, we are the best ;) |
| 21:36:05 | preglow | haha |
| 21:36:11 | preglow | there is a distint contrast to norway, yes |
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| 21:38:49 | thegeek | hehee preglow:) |
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| 21:39:11 | thegeek | that won't be a problem, I'm usually still awake at 0500 ;) |
| 21:39:12 | thegeek | hehehe |
| 21:39:16 | preglow | haha |
| 21:39:22 | preglow | oh, they don't mind about the 'usually' |
| 21:39:29 | thegeek | humhum |
| 21:39:47 | preglow | i had to get up early for once the other day, then they showed up around 05:00 and threw snowballs at windows |
| 21:40:58 | thegeek | hahahaha |
| 21:41:03 | thegeek | sounds fun:) |
| 21:41:13 | Quelsaruk | preglow: come on! you have a nice Wakeup alarm... |
| 21:41:36 | preglow | sure, would be great if i actually would ever need to get up at 05:00 |
| 21:41:42 | preglow | if that ever becomes the case, i'll kill myself anyway |
| 21:41:49 | Quelsaruk | always complaining... |
| 21:42:04 | Quelsaruk | that's why you are not as cool as Spanish ;) |
| 21:42:05 | preglow | with a rusty potato peeler |
| 21:42:19 | preglow | haha |
| 21:42:23 | preglow | i also prefer to wake up to music |
| 21:42:27 | preglow | and these spaniards were not singing |
| 21:43:59 | Quelsaruk | you have to learn this phrase "Que os jodan maricones! Callaros de una puta vez" |
| 21:44:05 | Quelsaruk | i don't want to translate |
| 21:44:16 | Quelsaruk | but they will surely shut up |
| 21:44:18 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 21:45:05 | CoCoLUS | not nice, that is :) |
| 21:45:09 | rasher | Spyware is gone! (I think) |
| 21:45:23 | rasher | kill me now |
| 21:45:48 | Quelsaruk | CoCoLUS: of course not, but... if someone here in Spain wakes you up at 5:00 am, you tell them that, and much more |
| 21:45:54 | Quelsaruk | they will understand |
| 21:45:55 | Quelsaruk | for sure |
| 21:46:29 | CoCoLUS | or the hit you to a bloody mess, depends on the type, i think :) |
| 21:47:56 | preglow | hahah |
| 21:48:16 | preglow | i do recognize the key words |
| 21:48:43 | Quelsaruk | hmm Erasmus... i know them quite well... they won't hit you... probably... |
| 21:48:59 | preglow | oh, i live in the third floor |
| 21:49:03 | Quelsaruk | you can always deport them here |
| 21:49:07 | preglow | haha |
| 21:50:17 | CoCoLUS | the best mandatory military service is certainly the austrian one :) |
| 21:50:51 | CoCoLUS | you either get to the borders, then you are, well, just -fucked-, 8 months, or you get some office job where you have to work like 2 hours and then - free time |
| 21:51:00 | CoCoLUS | watching movies, reading books, etc |
| 21:51:05 | Quelsaruk | btw, does anyone here speak fluent spanish? or at least understand it perfectly? |
| 21:51:55 | CoCoLUS | babelfish doesn't. |
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| 21:55:02 | Quelsaruk | damn.. |
| 21:55:06 | Quelsaruk | what a pity |
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| 21:55:24 | Quelsaruk | i wanted to show you a really funny thing, but it's in spanish |
| 21:57:04 | CoCoLUS | translate it :) |
| 21:57:10 | Quelsaruk | hehe |
| 21:57:23 | Quelsaruk | it's a short Flash movie |
| 21:57:28 | Quelsaruk | i can't translate |
| 21:58:19 | CoCoLUS | gotta go anyway, bye |
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| 22:00:21 | Quelsaruk | cu! |
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| 22:01:37 | Soul_Eater | preglow- read is CHAR. and if I shouldnt use strtok, what should I use? |
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| 22:07:43 | Tang | :) |
| 22:07:51 | Tang | Hi Rockbox and all fans |
| 22:07:54 | Tang | :) |
| 22:08:03 | Quelsaruk | hi Tang |
| 22:08:14 | Tang | Hi Quelsaruk |
| 22:08:15 | Tang | :) |
| 22:08:23 | Quelsaruk | :) |
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| 22:08:37 | Tang | So what abot the MPC licensing deal? |
| 22:08:50 | Tang | (if not confidential of course) |
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| 22:19:55 | rasher | I think it turned out that it was in fact BSD licensed already |
| 22:20:07 | rasher | "new" bsd, that is - which is perfectly fine |
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| 22:30:07 | Bagder | yeps |
| 22:30:29 | Bagder | and Seed is a musepack devel |
| 22:35:18 | Seed | yes |
| 22:36:26 | Tang | Sorry i was away |
| 22:36:43 | Tang | okay |
| 22:36:47 | Tang | so it's cool |
| 22:36:55 | preglow | there never was a problem |
| 22:37:09 | Tang | there is no licensing impeachment for rockbox supporting mpc? |
| 22:37:14 | preglow | no |
| 22:38:37 | Tang | :) |
| 22:38:39 | Tang | Very cool news |
| 22:38:41 | Tang | :) |
| 22:39:01 | Tang | May i ask something else? |
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| 22:40:26 | preglow | just ask, man |
| 22:40:37 | preglow | i don't have anything better to do right now |
| 22:40:37 | preglow | heh |
| 22:41:03 | Tang | Thanks |
| 22:41:10 | Tang | i read (with happiness) |
| 22:41:14 | Tang | at HA |
| 22:41:21 | Tang | that the wavpack author |
| 22:41:29 | Tang | is collaborating with you |
| 22:41:45 | Tang | however i ignore his wikiname |
| 22:41:51 | preglow | yes, he mailed me |
| 22:42:04 | Tang | Very cool too |
| 22:42:06 | Tang | :) |
| 22:42:28 | Tang | (he buoght an iHP too if i understood wel) |
| 22:43:31 | preglow | yup |
| 22:44:37 | Tang | Is him ChristianGemini? |
| 22:44:53 | Tang | (who work on wvpck at codec section)? |
| 22:44:57 | preglow | no |
| 22:45:09 | preglow | i can't check right now, i'm in the middle of a linux upgrade |
| 22:45:38 | rasher | how is that stopping you? (just curious) |
| 22:45:55 | preglow | you try starting thunderbird when the system isn't fully upgraded |
| 22:45:59 | preglow | i tried, and it looks funny |
| 22:46:52 | rasher | interesting |
| 22:46:55 | * | rasher hugs mutt |
| 22:47:41 | Tang | Ah okay i mistook |
| 22:48:04 | preglow | ahh, i've got mutt |
| 22:48:21 | preglow | david bryant |
| 22:49:51 | Rick | preglow: links ;) |
| 22:50:11 | preglow | yes, i know |
| 22:50:37 | * | Rick grins |
| 22:53:19 | rasher | guess this concludes this successful evening |
| 22:53:25 | rasher | later |
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| 22:57:49 | Tang | Thnks preglow |
| 22:58:09 | Tang | sorry i do'nt know how i did for not notice his wikiname |
| 22:58:11 | Seed | anyone have experience with an ARM7 here? |
| 22:58:32 | kergoth | with regard to..? |
| 22:59:19 | Seed | this guy seems to be confused between 2 codecs and I am not sure what he wants: |
| 22:59:22 | Seed | http://www.musepack.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=177 |
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| 23:02:27 | Bagder | 45 mhz is not a lot |
| 23:02:42 | preglow | indeed, no |
| 23:02:44 | Seed | yes, but I'm not sure he knows libmusepack is for decoding .mpc files |
| 23:02:51 | Seed | his post confuses me |
| 23:03:46 | Bagder | to me it looks like he wants *a* decoder |
| 23:03:51 | preglow | i wonder how the instruction timing is for smlal and those guys |
| 23:04:45 | Seed | Bagder: possibly, probably.. to have sound demoed at this party he's going to |
| 23:04:59 | Bagder | yes, that's how I interpret it |
| 23:05:26 | Seed | I know my 68040 at 40 MHz can decode MPCs.. but then again, my Amiga had 114 MB of RAM and it's not limited to the FPU-less mode of the Dreamcast |
| 23:08:56 | preglow | mpc isn't particularily cpu intensive, is it? |
| 23:09:08 | preglow | it's just a subband coder |
| 23:11:42 | Seed | yes |
| 23:12:55 | Seed | but it's hard for me to speculate regarding a machine I'm not familiar with.. on a PocketPC (ARM) @ 400 Mhz, libmusepack offers 10x realtime playback. That does not say 40 MHz is enough for proper playback. There are many other variables in this equation |
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| 23:19:59 | HCl | helloooo |
| 23:20:00 | HCl | o.o |
| 23:20:34 | Seed | Hi HCl |
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| 23:30:13 | rasher | anyone know what's new in iRiver's new firmware? |
| 23:30:27 | preglow | some recording stuff |
| 23:30:37 | amiconn | The version number? ;) |
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| 23:34:13 | rasher | recording stuff it is |
| 23:34:47 | * | rasher promptly loses interest |
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| 23:41:03 | preglow | ורזרו |
| 23:41:16 | preglow | what does those look like? |
| 23:41:38 | Bagder | like you don't use utf8 ;-) |
| 23:41:57 | preglow | ahh, that's what i wanted to know |
| 23:42:30 | preglow | just upgraded my ubuntu, gnome 2.10 feels pretty smooth |
| 23:42:39 | preglow | default locale should be utf8, though |
| 23:42:56 | rasher | Maybe you changed it? |
| 23:43:08 | rasher | I'm pretty sure the default is |
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| 23:44:49 | amiconn | wsfgl |
| 23:44:53 | rasher | good job |
| 23:45:09 | rasher | But yes, gnome 2.10 is fairly nice |
| 23:45:23 | rasher | I keep coming back to Debian though |
| 23:46:06 | preglow | xmms refuses to start :/ |
| 23:46:26 | rasher | stop using it |
| 23:46:27 | rasher | :) |
| 23:46:40 | preglow | you got a better alternative? |
| 23:46:44 | preglow | 'cause i'd switch in a jiffy |
| 23:46:50 | preglow | i hate xmms |
| 23:46:52 | rasher | depends on what you want really |
| 23:46:56 | rasher | mpd is neato |
| 23:46:59 | rasher | once you get into it |
| 23:47:04 | preglow | i want something as foobar2000-ish as possible |
| 23:47:12 | * | Domonoky made a little game for Rockbox on iriver .. its not ready... but have a look :-) www.people.freenet.de/Domonoky/rocktron.rock |
| 23:47:14 | preglow | mpd? |
| 23:47:26 | rasher | It's a client-server thing |
| 23:47:35 | rasher | server runs as a daemon, and clients attach to control it |
| 23:47:45 | Rick | Domonoky: source please ;-) |
| 23:47:54 | preglow | that sounds so incredibly unecessary |
| 23:48:02 | rasher | I know |
| 23:48:34 | rasher | but it works really well.. and well.. I like it |
| 23:48:35 | Domonoky | i should clean up the sources,befor showing it someone.. :-) |
| 23:49:01 | rasher | domonoky: you are now in violation of the GPL, go directly to jail, do not collect $100 |
| 23:49:02 | rasher | :) |
| 23:49:17 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 23:50:39 | rasher | what is the game? |
| 23:50:55 | preglow | rasher: but ok, is it a major bother to set up? |
| 23:50:59 | Domonoky | a Tron like game... you know tron ? |
| 23:51:13 | rasher | preglow: in ubuntu - apt-get install mpd gmpc |
| 23:51:18 | Domonoky | like worms, but you have to kill the other worms.. |
| 23:51:38 | rasher | I know tron, but that line confused me |
| 23:52:05 | rasher | preglow: but it may be to simple if you're looking for a "real" media player |
| 23:52:14 | rasher | but.. choices never hurt |
| 23:52:23 | Domonoky | if we have the remote working.. we make 2-player games :-) |
| 23:52:33 | preglow | i don't give a shit, i want to play music, and i don't want an overly fancy ui |
| 23:52:46 | rasher | gmpc is very clean, you may like it |
| 23:53:05 | rasher | and there other clients available, though not a lot in debian/ubuntu |
| 23:53:49 | Rick | rasher: how is he in violation of GPL? |
| 23:54:19 | Domonoky | modifing without releasing the source but the binary.. |
| 23:54:23 | Rick | ? |
| 23:54:26 | Rick | you didn't start from scratch? |
| 23:54:52 | rasher | He's hooking into Rockbox anyway |
| 23:54:57 | Domonoky | it uses Rockbox.. |
| 23:54:59 | Rick | it's the equivilent of a plugin |
| 23:55:01 | Rick | no? |
| 23:55:09 | rasher | plugins get contaminated |
| 23:55:35 | rasher | I uh.. think |
| 23:55:42 | Rick | I think it depends on how the plugin is built |
| 23:55:43 | Rick | I mean |
| 23:55:49 | Rick | you even are provided pointers to the rockbox functions |
| 23:56:02 | Rick | which is plugin-esq |
| 23:57:04 | Rick | I would understand it being GPL if you were including the actual rockbox code |
| 23:57:12 | Rick | not just headers |
| 23:58:18 | rasher | oh well |
| 23:58:49 | preglow | well, it's up, i can't bloody select any songs |
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