| 00:00:40 | ncrawla | i've hated the fw's ui on my iriver ever since i got it |
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| 00:01:17 | Rick | fw? |
| 00:01:20 | rasher | codecapi!!!!111!!!ONEONE |
| 00:01:47 | HCl | yawn |
| 00:01:50 | HCl | hello. |
| 00:01:53 | HCl | fresh air rocks. |
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| 00:07:18 | preglow | no shit |
| 00:08:20 | rasher | ha ha gmail invitations |
| 00:09:10 | | Part MoosCamaro |
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| 00:23:51 | rasher | remind me, does the green led turn off when the battery's full? |
| 00:24:03 | rasher | (on h100) |
| 00:24:41 | Bagder | I think it does |
| 00:24:54 | preglow | looks like libflac only uses realloc for metadata |
| 00:24:55 | preglow | woot |
| 00:24:58 | preglow | Rick: yes |
| 00:25:00 | preglow | ehgh |
| 00:25:01 | preglow | rasher: yes |
| 00:25:05 | preglow | premature autocomplete |
| 00:25:15 | rasher | it happens to everyone |
| 00:25:28 | preglow | hahahahah |
| 00:26:09 | DMJC | anyone know how much dual layer dvds cost? |
| 00:26:13 | preglow | much |
| 00:27:07 | DMJC | I only want 1 heh |
| 00:27:27 | DMJC | going to try backing up my wing commander games |
| 00:27:42 | rasher | :-O |
| 00:28:05 | rasher | oh, games.. I was reading savegames.. some savegames that'd be |
| 00:28:17 | DMJC | lol |
| 00:28:30 | DMJC | don't worry... wing commander 4 has like 6 cds |
| 00:28:53 | DMJC | I'm creating a massive iso image |
| 00:29:00 | DMJC | using daemon tools to check that it works |
| 00:29:58 | rasher | hm, ¤7 |
| 00:30:51 | Bagder | that's a lot |
| 00:30:56 | pill | DMJC, do you have privateer too? |
| 00:31:15 | DMJC | I own every wing commander game there is |
| 00:31:28 | DMJC | even super wing commander for mac |
| 00:31:35 | pill | i would love to play privatter |
| 00:31:39 | rasher | sounds like a personal problem |
| 00:31:40 | pill | privateer* |
| 00:31:44 | DMJC | and that remake on slashdot.... I worked on that |
| 00:32:16 | pill | holy shit |
| 00:32:22 | pill | they did a Privateer remake |
| 00:32:28 | pill | :o |
| 00:32:33 | DMJC | yeah |
| 00:32:34 | pill | i'm getting that right now |
| 00:32:41 | DMJC | http://priv.solsector.net |
| 00:32:49 | DMJC | don't worry... it's just a fart in the wind |
| 00:33:00 | DMJC | WC:Universe is adding the entire universe map |
| 00:33:05 | DMJC | http://wcnews.com/map |
| 00:33:34 | DMJC | hmm.. the map site seems down |
| 00:33:48 | DMJC | http://www.wcnews.com/maps/ that's it |
| 00:35:32 | pill | oh my god this is pure adoration |
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| 00:36:10 | DMJC | took us 5 long years |
| 00:36:54 | pill | how legit is this privateer remake? |
| 00:37:01 | pill | isn't origin bitching? |
| 00:37:07 | DMJC | origin is DEAD |
| 00:37:19 | DMJC | all the ip belongs to EA and they haven't said a word |
| 00:37:38 | ncrawla | mmm wing commander |
| 00:37:40 | ncrawla | hah |
| 00:38:09 | pill | is there a strike commander remake in project? |
| 00:38:22 | DMJC | not that I know of |
| 00:38:54 | DMJC | the vegastrike engine was always planned for a WC remake.. |
| 00:38:56 | * | rasher prods the viewer patch |
| 00:39:01 | pill | http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/albums/vegastrike_mod/orion14.png |
| 00:39:06 | DMJC | hence the vega name |
| 00:39:12 | pill | this makes me want to play this game so bad |
| 00:39:34 | DMJC | lol |
| 00:39:40 | DMJC | that's my new constantinople mesh |
| 00:40:12 | DMJC | (we actually have the original 3d meshes made by origin...) |
| 00:40:26 | HCl | isn't that illegal? |
| 00:40:30 | preglow | very |
| 00:41:05 | DMJC | we don't use them ingame |
| 00:41:17 | DMJC | we never use that stuff in public |
| 00:41:29 | HCl | mm... |
| 00:41:35 | HCl | bah. |
| 00:41:38 | * | HCl doesn't want to sleep. |
| 00:41:52 | DMJC | someone inside origin copied them off their mainframe and dumped them on the net |
| 00:42:08 | DMJC | privateer ships are around 30,000-40,000 polys |
| 00:42:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 00:43:31 | DMJC | if you want renders I can give them out |
| 00:43:40 | DMJC | but the models aren't really available |
| 00:43:56 | DMJC | about 5 people have all of them and they don't give them out |
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| 00:46:17 | preglow | ahh |
| 00:46:21 | preglow | thought you bundled them |
| 00:46:52 | DMJC | no |
| 00:47:14 | DMJC | we had some screenshots up of them in the engine, but we pulled those pretty quick when it looked like we'd actually finish the prohject |
| 00:50:15 | HCl | hehe. |
| 00:57:15 | preglow | if anyone wants to adopt a codec: http://glow.m0f0.net/rockbox/cf-mpegdec_rockbox.tar.gz |
| 00:58:06 | rasher | charge dammit! |
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| 00:59:32 | * | rasher waits for the green light to go off |
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| 00:59:47 | HCl | maybe if you sacrifice a chicken it'll charge faster |
| 00:59:49 | HCl | *nods* |
| 00:59:56 | HCl | o. |
| 00:59:57 | HCl | o.o |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:14 | rasher | I did that yesterday |
| 01:00:28 | HCl | maybe you have to sacrifice something bigger |
| 01:00:32 | HCl | <.< >.> |
| 01:00:35 | Bagder | we prefer goats here |
| 01:00:37 | HCl | *holds up pike* |
| 01:00:39 | preglow | dogs |
| 01:00:40 | HCl | oh. |
| 01:00:41 | HCl | okay. |
| 01:05:41 | rasher | 3 hour charge.. |
| 01:05:45 | rasher | now when did I start.. |
| 01:06:21 | rasher | 2.5 hours ago.. |
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| 01:09:55 | preglow | oh, it does take quite a while to charge |
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| 01:12:32 | amiconn | bah... I seem to be missing some X11 header files |
| 01:13:23 | Bagder | installed libx11-dev ? |
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| 01:16:50 | amiconn | Maybe this is missing. Now the next challenge: find out how to add this... |
| 01:17:07 | Bagder | 'apt-get install libx11-dev' |
| 01:17:08 | preglow | apt-get install libx11-dev? |
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| 01:18:24 | amiconn | Hmm. The point is, how do I (1) know how this package is called exactly, in advance or (2) how can I search a package list (in a graphical or menu like tool) |
| 01:18:24 | preglow | aye, ditto |
| 01:18:38 | preglow | apt-cache search keyword |
| 01:19:10 | preglow | that'll list all manners of close matches, both in package name and description |
| 01:19:13 | amiconn | That's no exactly what I want/need/mean |
| 01:19:20 | rasher | as for graphical package tool |
| 01:19:25 | rasher | apt-get install aptitude |
| 01:19:45 | preglow | ahh, i thought aptitude was an ubuntu thing |
| 01:19:57 | rasher | nope |
| 01:20:02 | gap | Hey guys −− question: the current wave test for the iRiver fw, why does the sample play too fast? |
| 01:20:05 | rasher | they may have a newer version. |
| 01:20:40 | amiconn | rasher: 'aptitude is already the latest version' |
| 01:20:52 | preglow | gap: does it matter? it's just a demonstration |
| 01:20:55 | rasher | excellent, run it :) |
| 01:20:58 | gap | true enough |
| 01:21:12 | preglow | gap: it won't be put in rockbox playing the sample too fast, don't worry |
| 01:21:14 | amiconn | rasher: It's not in the menu. However, just found synaptics |
| 01:21:38 | gap | I'm aware of that, I wondered if there was a technical reason that it currently plays fast |
| 01:21:54 | preglow | gap: wouldn't know, the guys who wrote it aren't around |
| 01:21:59 | gap | I know that the I2C code is a little fresh |
| 01:22:54 | gap | hrm |
| 01:23:12 | gap | So, the developers who were supposed to be working on the codec arch are currently AWOL? |
| 01:23:48 | preglow | well, there are no developers who are supposed to work on it, but the ones who said they'd have a look have been otherwise tied uĂp |
| 01:23:52 | preglow | up |
| 01:24:01 | gap | ah, ok |
| 01:24:51 | preglow | development have been pretty slow lately, so i guess people have a lot on their hands |
| 01:25:25 | gap | I don't fault anyone for it −− I know how that is. I'm fighting the urge to jump in right now just because I have a lot of side projects that need finishing |
| 01:25:45 | preglow | pft, as i've said earlier, side projects exist to be neglected |
| 01:25:50 | gap | But I have been wanting to get back to C recently; coding in Java for classes makes you feel "dirty" after a while |
| 01:25:55 | amiconn | Hmm. That helped somewhat, however I'm still missing some headers. Is there a way to find out which package provides a certain file? |
| 01:25:56 | preglow | ahh, i can imagine |
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| 01:26:25 | preglow | well, you're welcome to help, that's for sure |
| 01:26:37 | gap | The fact that I have to typecast simple division in java has got to tell someone something |
| 01:27:02 | gap | I just have to build a crosscompiler first |
| 01:27:29 | rasher | it's not a lot of work if you have a running linux system |
| 01:27:57 | gap | Is there a way to compile one for Win32, or do I have to use cygwin? |
| 01:28:01 | preglow | amiconn: you pretty much have to ask people, i think |
| 01:28:08 | preglow | amiconn: what file? |
| 01:28:32 | rasher | amiconn: packages.debian.org can tell, with a bit of luck |
| 01:28:41 | preglow | there's no central database on what files are contained in what deb packages, that'd be a very large database |
| 01:28:42 | rasher | but asking is usually faster if someone is around |
| 01:28:52 | rasher | preglow: in fact packages.debian.org has one |
| 01:28:56 | preglow | neato |
| 01:28:59 | preglow | didn't know |
| 01:29:30 | gap | One of the things I have hated about the h1xx series is that it isn't even as good fw-wise as the imp-4xx series that came before it |
| 01:30:06 | gap | I got the iMP-400 a couple of years before the H120 and loved it, but was somewhat let down when the H120 didn't have some of the features the 400 had |
| 01:30:12 | preglow | now, that's one thing we can remedy |
| 01:30:19 | gap | yes, finally! |
| 01:30:43 | rasher | which features are missing? |
| 01:31:15 | amiconn | rasher: Thanks, very useful :) Turns out I need xlibs-dev |
| 01:31:18 | gap | Well, for starters, the WPS is all wrong. The imp-400 nicely scrolls the information you select, Title - Artist - Album, etc. |
| 01:31:29 | gap | The h120 just shows the folder name and track name |
| 01:31:33 | gap | and not even that on the remote |
| 01:31:43 | gap | well, actually... |
| 01:31:50 | gap | the main screen I suppose does show more |
| 01:31:57 | gap | and the remote shows just the folder and title |
| 01:32:02 | rasher | yeah, the wps is retarded |
| 01:32:27 | gap | Then, the imp-400 also has more visualizations. It may be vain, but I liked the waveform vis |
| 01:32:33 | rasher | :) |
| 01:32:34 | amiconn | Btw, rockbox really compiles faster on linux. That's on the same machine, with linux having the additional handicap of running on vmware. I wonder why that is.... |
| 01:32:37 | gap | the h120 only shows the level meter |
| 01:32:51 | rasher | amiconn: cygwin is a beast.. |
| 01:33:03 | HCl | windows is slower. |
| 01:33:17 | rasher | I'm pretty sure cygwin is to blame here |
| 01:33:22 | gap | I dunno, the 400 has just seemed well thought-out while the h120 seemed "rushed" |
| 01:33:28 | gap | Like, they wanted to get it out there |
| 01:33:48 | gap | Let's not even talk about the database... |
| 01:33:49 | gap | lol |
| 01:33:52 | rasher | and then abandoned it .. |
| 01:33:57 | rasher | the database... |
| 01:34:00 | preglow | cygwin is to blame |
| 01:34:06 | preglow | the same stuff runs faster in mingw |
| 01:34:23 | gap | Yeah, I like how they didn't update the fw for the h series at all but released 2 updates for the 400 in that time |
| 01:34:48 | rasher | let's not talk about the "gap delete"... |
| 01:34:51 | gap | Like, for 6 mos after it's release, people were crying for h series fw and iriver goes and updates the older fw |
| 01:34:52 | rasher | a cruel joke |
| 01:34:58 | gap | gap delete is pretty lame |
| 01:35:11 | gap | And I can honestly say I've never needed the lyrics feature |
| 01:35:18 | gap | I don't have the time to ADD them |
| 01:35:25 | rasher | Haha, that is so horrible |
| 01:35:34 | rasher | especially since the display can show like 3 words at a time |
| 01:35:37 | gap | 1000 songs and I'm going to spend HOW LONG adding lyrics? |
| 01:35:39 | gap | yeah |
| 01:35:41 | rasher | horrible wrapping and font |
| 01:35:56 | rasher | I tried it on one file |
| 01:36:15 | gap | why do they like the 12 point bold default font? I liked RB the minute it loaded because I could finally see more than 4 files at a time! |
| 01:36:16 | gap | lol |
| 01:36:17 | amiconn | X11 simulator running... very nice :) |
| 01:36:42 | rasher | plus the lyrics-adding app is very bad |
| 01:37:30 | gap | hrm... I can't seem to open the VC DSP file for the UI Sim in VS 2003 |
| 01:37:37 | preglow | does vmware run the code natively? |
| 01:37:44 | preglow | or some jit thing? |
| 01:37:45 | HCl | yes |
| 01:37:48 | HCl | no. |
| 01:37:50 | gap | wait, n/m |
| 01:37:51 | gap | got it |
| 01:37:51 | preglow | hok |
| 01:38:13 | HCl | well, a combo of both |
| 01:38:20 | HCl | it has to reroute all the out/in and interrupts |
| 01:38:21 | HCl | obviously |
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| 01:39:57 | gap | Preprocessor directives give me a headache in source files when they're nested... |
| 01:41:38 | preglow | i welcome you to have a look at fixed.h in libmad |
| 01:41:49 | preglow | fetch a bucket first |
| 01:42:02 | gap | I think I'd rather maintain my sanity |
| 01:43:26 | gap | hrm... the win32 target for ui sim doesn't seem to ready to build. |
| 01:43:34 | gap | I think I might just have to shell into a unix box here |
| 01:43:49 | gap | *linux |
| 01:44:35 | amiconn | gap: the win32 simulator is ready to build. However, the msvc project doesn't work, only cygwin |
| 01:44:42 | gap | ah, ok |
| 01:44:52 | gap | Yeah, MSVC doesn't seem to like it |
| 01:44:55 | rasher | be done with, stupid charger |
| 01:45:10 | gap | It likes gifts |
| 01:45:14 | gap | of shiny objects |
| 01:45:19 | gap | and your first born child' |
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| 01:45:33 | amiconn | gap: There used to be a working msvc project, before the new simulator build system, and some other changes |
| 01:45:40 | gap | ah, k |
| 01:45:53 | rasher | I like how the charger accepts both 110v and 220v |
| 01:46:12 | gap | That's always a plus |
| 01:46:17 | amiconn | It seems no current developer on win uses/possesses msvc (at least I don't) |
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| 01:47:16 | preglow | yeah, it's a switched mode one |
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| 01:48:49 | preglow | i've got msvc, but little or no will to make the sim work with it |
| 01:49:42 | preglow | should probably use an older version than .net to make the files anywa, a lot of people use older versions |
| 01:50:03 | amiconn | Imho it's unnecessary. The advantage of cygwin is that it allows to build both the win32 and the x11 sim |
| 01:50:30 | gap | true |
| 01:51:05 | amiconn | If it only were a bit faster, no that I can see how much faster compilation runs under linux... |
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| 01:53:53 | preglow | but i'll go to bed |
| 01:53:56 | preglow | later, all |
| 01:54:00 | gap | night |
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| 01:54:51 | gap | Anyone know what the status is on the remote? I know the wiki says that it isn't working quite yet |
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| 01:54:59 | gap | but I wondered if anyone knew why |
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| 01:56:28 | rasher | someone said he'd start working on it.. can't remember who though.. |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:09 | rasher | Charging finished! |
| 02:00:12 | rasher | \/ |
| 02:00:15 | rasher | \o/ |
| 02:00:25 | * | rasher starts test |
| 02:04:06 | gap | yay! |
| 02:04:17 | gap | BTW Who got the call from TI yesterday? |
| 02:07:06 | rasher | Linus |
| 02:07:11 | rasher | I believe |
| 02:08:04 | gap | Did he say what chip they were trying to id for him? |
| 02:08:44 | rasher | I can't remember |
| 02:08:54 | gap | k |
| 02:09:11 | gap | How long does the bat test have to run for? |
| 02:09:38 | rasher | until it dies |
| 02:09:56 | rasher | I'm guessing a long time |
| 02:10:11 | gap | Considering that with the original fw the estimate was like 18 hours... |
| 02:10:20 | rasher | :-S |
| 02:10:21 | gap | with lots of HD activity, I've had it die after about 3 |
| 02:10:30 | rasher | I'm doing what I can to make it drain afst |
| 02:10:31 | gap | like, on USB when streaming a video file |
| 02:10:31 | rasher | fast |
| 02:10:38 | gap | hrm |
| 02:10:49 | rasher | full cpu speed, lots of disk access, lcd light on |
| 02:10:53 | gap | Maybe have it walk the file tree? |
| 02:11:06 | rasher | too much work :) |
| 02:11:10 | gap | lol |
| 02:11:13 | rasher | let me just check that it's working right |
| 02:11:39 | rasher | yup, that looks right |
| 02:11:41 | rasher | hurray |
| 02:12:47 | * | rasher fills up the battery again |
| 02:14:41 | amiconn | Hmm. I don't get the strange effect with my new button handling that preglow described. It's working just fine, smooth and reliable :-) ? :-/ |
| 02:15:10 | gap | What strange effect? |
| 02:15:46 | amiconn | He said that if it scrolls a long list, it stops intermittently for a short time |
| 02:16:32 | rasher | got a patch? |
| 02:17:15 | gap | BTW, how do I build the uisim for win32 in cygwin? |
| 02:17:53 | rasher | run tools/configure and select the player, sim, win32 |
| 02:18:00 | amiconn | Yup. amiconn.dyndns.org/x11-button.diff">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/x11-button.diff You'll also need http://amiconn.dyndns.org/kernel.c Stick it in uisimulator/x11. It's different from the other kernel.c files... |
| 02:18:39 | amiconn | Beware. The current patch switches off x11 button autorepeat |
| 02:18:47 | rasher | I'll survive |
| 02:18:59 | amiconn | This is only possible globally, so I need to add focus/unfocus handling |
| 02:19:35 | * | rasher builds |
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| 02:20:45 | rasher | oops |
| 02:20:47 | * | rasher builds again |
| 02:22:28 | rasher | what the.. |
| 02:22:44 | gap | ?? |
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| 02:23:03 | rasher | I must've done something wrong |
| 02:23:13 | rasher | no cpu_boost() |
| 02:23:21 | rasher | totally unrelated to the patch of course |
| 02:23:26 | gap | huh? |
| 02:23:37 | amiconn | cpu_boost in the simulator ? |
| 02:23:48 | rasher | oh right |
| 02:23:58 | rasher | forgot to check for dynamic cpu |
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| 02:27:08 | RaZorbacK | Hello all |
| 02:27:15 | gap | hey |
| 02:27:27 | rasher | amiconn: I can't produce a glitch |
| 02:28:00 | RaZorbacK | hey guys can i ask u a little question about rockbox? |
| 02:28:13 | rasher | sure |
| 02:28:16 | rasher | just ask |
| 02:29:21 | amiconn | rasher: Nice :) Btw, with the new button code, it is finally possible to use rockboy in the x11 sim |
| 02:29:32 | rasher | haha |
| 02:30:03 | RaZorbacK | ok. i'm using windows xp and a jukebox player. my xp doesn't recognize my player by defaut so i have downloaded a driver from archos site and now it works. but, very often now, when i plugged my box on the usb port i have a blue screen and i have to reboot the pc. very annoying. is there a good working driver because i think it comes from it? |
| 02:31:12 | gap | Hrm, guys, I'm getting this error when I go to build the ui sim for win32: "MAKE in libFLAC bitbuffer.c:32:39: global.h: No such file or directory" |
| 02:32:43 | rasher | "Dir Buffer is full" |
| 02:32:46 | rasher | well that's cute :) |
| 02:32:58 | rasher | when does that happen? |
| 02:33:17 | Rick | gap: did you configure? |
| 02:33:21 | gap | YES |
| 02:33:23 | gap | *yes |
| 02:33:30 | Rick | sounds like an include path problem then |
| 02:33:40 | rasher | ah, I see. |
| 02:33:43 | rasher | nevermind. |
| 02:33:50 | gap | It doesn't matter, though, I found that it had already made rockboxui.exe |
| 02:33:52 | gap | hrm |
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| 02:34:01 | RaZorbacK | so guys no ideas for me? :) I know that everyone use linux now but... :-) |
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| 02:34:45 | gap | It may be possible that you are getting the blue screen because you are using a win98 driver under XP |
| 02:34:59 | gap | I had a friend who had a similar problem with another player |
| 02:35:16 | amiconn | RaZorbacK: I also use the stock drivers from the archos site for my player (recorder with usb2 works without special drivers in xp) |
| 02:35:20 | gap | XP for some reason wouldn't use the XP driver |
| 02:35:22 | amiconn | No crashes... |
| 02:36:14 | amiconn | Well, the usb1 archoses (player/studio and recorder <= 15) are not fully usb mass storage compatible, so they need a special driver |
| 02:36:40 | RaZorbacK | nonetheless the file seems to be for win xp according to the site |
| 02:36:50 | RaZorbacK | but, i have to double check |
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| 02:38:05 | RaZorbacK | some friends have told me that htey effectively use their recorder without driver under xp |
| 02:38:21 | RaZorbacK | but the player (usb 1) is not correctly detected |
| 02:39:20 | amiconn | See my last comment. The usb2 archoses are usable without special drivers in WinXP, the usb1 units are not. |
| 02:40:21 | RaZorbacK | oki, so, it may be a problem coming form the driver or i haven't dl the correct one. gonna have a lool at the site once again. |
| 02:40:27 | RaZorbacK | thanks for the help |
| 02:41:19 | RaZorbacK | btw, i have just flashed my old player, it works like a charm, thank to those who made this peace of code |
| 02:41:58 | amiconn | Nice :) Actually it was me who made flashing players finally possible... |
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| 02:42:28 | amiconn | I just checked. I'm using the drivers from the archos hp, but *not* the latest version |
| 02:42:35 | RaZorbacK | thanks a whole bunch. the boot is definetly faster |
| 02:42:45 | amiconn | Dunno if these are still available |
| 02:43:44 | RaZorbacK | ho can u plz if possible send them to me or up them on a ftp if they are not available? |
| 02:46:01 | RaZorbacK | lol thx i've never used this feature on irc. i have a basic client, i'm not on it so much |
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| 03:10:19 | gap | at least in cygwin |
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| 03:43:03 | wacky_ | hey guys |
| 03:43:14 | wacky_ | Some times I can't boot my original iRiver firmware either |
| 03:43:20 | wacky_ | but I found some tips and infos... |
| 03:44:09 | rasher | do tell |
| 03:45:35 | wacky_ | first I found that it mostly fails when I write to the disk using the Rockbox firmware.. |
| 03:45:45 | wacky_ | I was trying to make playlists |
| 03:45:54 | wacky_ | and run iriverify on them to use them on the original firmware.. |
| 03:46:00 | wacky_ | but some times the original firmware didn't boot anymore. |
| 03:46:12 | wacky_ | When I removed the files I created.. or played around a little, it booted correctly. |
| 03:46:40 | wacky_ | This didn't happen before we twiddled with the fat.c section where we randomized the 8.3 filename, so maybe we have a starting point. |
| 03:46:48 | wacky_ | I'm going to investigate a little bit more right away |
| 03:46:58 | rasher | there's probably a real bug hiding around here, or maybe iRiver just isn't fully fat32 compliant? |
| 03:49:38 | ncrawla | hmm my guess is that if the iriver wasn't fully fat32 compliant that i would've run into some problem by now |
| 03:50:36 | rasher | yeah |
| 03:50:48 | ncrawla | i use my ihp120 under win32 and fbsd and have read/written thousands of fucked up mp3 filenames on the thing |
| 03:51:20 | ncrawla | especially stuff coming from usenet...heh |
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| 03:52:37 | * | rasher updates iriverfaq slightly |
| 03:54:48 | * | rasher WikiWikiBangs his head on his desk |
| 03:56:02 | wacky_ | heh |
| 03:56:30 | ncrawla | so is there anybody here that i would be able to beg/bribe to revive a dead iriver with the BDM in the event that something goes horribly awry with my rockbox install ? |
| 03:56:40 | ncrawla | would just like to know before i take the plunge |
| 03:56:41 | ncrawla | heh |
| 03:56:58 | ncrawla | really wanna start hacking on it tho |
| 03:57:29 | rasher | That would be Linus |
| 03:57:33 | wacky_ | hey guys.. I can't surf through the flash orgy of hell out there on www.iriver.com |
| 03:57:35 | ncrawla | twiki rules |
| 03:57:43 | wacky_ | could anyone give me a link to the 1.65 F/W page ? |
| 03:57:48 | wacky_ | or the downloads section? |
| 03:57:57 | rasher | hang on |
| 03:58:07 | * | rasher puts on his flash-resistant hat |
| 03:58:45 | rasher | twiki is alright, it's just that I keep forgetting the different link syntaxes |
| 03:59:09 | rasher | Un an unrelated note: gentoo still bootstrapping |
| 03:59:23 | rasher | wacky_: us or eu? |
| 03:59:39 | wacky_ | well.. the page that tells what's new |
| 03:59:51 | rasher | ah |
| 03:59:53 | rasher | http://www.iriver.com/html/support/download/sudw_view.asp?idx=682 |
| 03:59:57 | rasher | recording features |
| 03:59:59 | ncrawla | yea i started using twiki long ago for tracking internal docs at an isp |
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| 04:00:47 | wacky_ | ok good :)) |
| 04:00:52 | wacky_ | recording features ? |
| 04:01:01 | wacky_ | no gapless, yet ? |
| 04:01:03 | rasher | I haven't looked too close at it |
| 04:01:06 | rasher | heavens no |
| 04:01:28 | * | wacky_ doesn't care.. he uses gap delete instead |
| 04:01:38 | rasher | Well it's not the same at all |
| 04:01:39 | wacky_ | it's so close to what I want anyway :) |
| 04:01:48 | wacky_ | lol.. yeah.. unfortunately, I know |
| 04:02:31 | rasher | any amount of gap is too much if you ask me |
| 04:02:45 | ncrawla | hmm 1.65 f/w for which player? |
| 04:02:45 | wacky_ | I can't reproduce easily the bug on my iRiver now.. |
| 04:03:02 | rasher | ncrawla: h100 series |
| 04:03:05 | ncrawla | they only seem to have 1.60 available for the h(100|120|140) |
| 04:03:10 | ncrawla | er |
| 04:03:12 | ncrawla | hm |
| 04:03:16 | rasher | uhm, no |
| 04:03:18 | gap | GRR. I can't seem to build the crosscompiler |
| 04:03:40 | gap | I get "bison: subsidiary program `/home/Guy/src/missing m4' not found" when making the binutils |
| 04:03:59 | rasher | in case you didn't know, the bootloader has NOT been tested with 1.65, so don't try using it :) |
| 04:05:30 | ncrawla | current d/l links for the h100 series f/w are: |
| 04:05:31 | ncrawla | http://www.iriveramerica.com/download/H100/iHP_100.hex |
| 04:05:31 | ncrawla | http://www.iriveramerica.com/download/H120/ihp_120.hex |
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| 04:05:31 | ncrawla | http://www.iriveramerica.com/download/H140/ihp_120.hex |
| 04:05:36 | rasher | I pity my iriver, it's been decoding "catch the digital flow" over and over again for ages |
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| 04:06:05 | rasher | ncrawla: what does that give you? |
| 04:06:06 | wacky_ | lol :) |
| 04:06:07 | rasher | 1.65? |
| 04:06:26 | wacky_ | ncrawla - look at the worldwide site.. often iriveramerica is way behind |
| 04:06:28 | ncrawla | seems to be 1.60 |
| 04:06:30 | ncrawla | ahh |
| 04:06:42 | rasher | 1.60.. that's 2 versions behind! |
| 04:07:02 | rasher | which reminds me.. should probably check the link in the wiki |
| 04:07:06 | gap | Anyone know why I am getting the message that I am when I make binutils? |
| 04:07:19 | gap | rasher: I used it yesterday, it seems okay |
| 04:07:22 | ncrawla | yea the links came from http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/hd/h100.aspx |
| 04:07:23 | rasher | nope, sorry |
| 04:07:31 | rasher | gap: and gave you 1.63? |
| 04:07:48 | gap | No, uh, the safe build to use with the loader |
| 04:07:56 | rasher | ah |
| 04:08:15 | gap | The hash matched one of the ones in the table |
| 04:08:15 | rasher | There are direct links to 1.63eu and 1.63us in the wiki |
| 04:08:32 | gap | kay, it was 1.63us |
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| 04:08:59 | rasher | but they link to a file "H120(us)_v163.zip", so that should be alright |
| 04:09:05 | wacky_ | hmm.. can't get it to crash anymore... |
| 04:09:14 | rasher | Just didn't want the wiki to link to 1.65 |
| 04:09:41 | gap | What version of gcc is needed for coldfire? |
| 04:09:41 | ncrawla | huh on www.iriver.com/eu i search for ihp-120 or h100 and i get nothing.. |
| 04:09:48 | ncrawla | am i missing something..? |
| 04:10:11 | rasher | http://www.iriver.com/html/support/download/sudw_view.asp?idx=682 :) |
| 04:10:15 | rasher | I forget how I got there |
| 04:10:28 | rasher | oh yeah, there was a link on the frontpage somewhere |
| 04:11:06 | ncrawla | ah yep that's got 1.65 on it |
| 04:11:10 | ncrawla | hmm |
| 04:11:41 | rasher | and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot has direct links to 1.63 |
| 04:14:08 | ncrawla | wow |
| 04:16:31 | ncrawla | yeah so i'm gonna upgrade my iriver to 1.63, back it up and then try rockbox |
| 04:16:32 | ncrawla | heh |
| 04:16:42 | gap | grr. I don't understand this. Bison tells me that it can't find /usr/Guy/src/missing but the script is there. |
| 04:17:12 | ncrawla | i'm just curious...in the md5/fw ver/bootloader.bin ver table on IriverBoot...what H1x0 models is everybody using |
| 04:17:22 | gap | H120 here |
| 04:18:09 | rasher | the firmware is the same, surely? |
| 04:18:29 | gap | I think |
| 04:18:34 | rasher | well it is |
| 04:19:42 | wacky_ | is there a way I could submit a new plugin ? |
| 04:19:57 | rasher | Jesus.. gentoo puts dos2unix and unix2dos in seperate ebuilds.. small wonder they end up with a million of them |
| 04:20:11 | rasher | wacky_: file it as a patch, or bug a dev here |
| 04:20:17 | ncrawla | yeah i don't know why the us site has a different 1.60 f/w for the ihp-100 than the ihp-120 and ihp-140 |
| 04:20:28 | wacky_ | :P |
| 04:20:34 | wacky_ | the us site just s*cks |
| 04:20:35 | rasher | is there even a ihp-100? |
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| 04:20:49 | wacky_ | ihp-110.. the first batches.. but not ihp-100 :) |
| 04:20:55 | wacky_ | heheh, unless it came with a 0GB hhd |
| 04:20:58 | ncrawla | heh |
| 04:21:00 | wacky_ | s/hhd/hdd |
| 04:21:07 | ncrawla | yea the us site is just whacked |
| 04:21:14 | wacky_ | :P |
| 04:21:22 | rasher | the h110 differ from h120/h140 |
| 04:22:17 | ncrawla | so i guess i'll back up my iriver, get 1.63 on it and start working on getting the sh1 cross compiler working |
| 04:22:52 | rasher | wacky_: I'd do both.. file a patch with just the plugin.c, and see if you can catch anyone here |
| 04:24:00 | wacky_ | on the sf.net site ? |
| 04:24:03 | ncrawla | er i guess m68k i mean |
| 04:24:03 | ncrawla | heh |
| 04:24:15 | gap | For win32 or linux? |
| 04:24:38 | gap | scratch the win32. x86 platform? |
| 04:24:54 | wacky_ | ncrawla - you want a .tar.bz2 of my cross-compiling env ? I run linux/x86 |
| 04:25:05 | ncrawla | i'll most likely be doing it all in linux tho fbsd would be nice |
| 04:25:20 | wacky_ | hmm.. don't know much about fbsd |
| 04:25:24 | ncrawla | yeah that would be nice |
| 04:25:38 | ncrawla | have access to lots of linux boxen |
| 04:26:32 | gap | I need one too... been trying to get the crosscompiler to make for the last hour |
| 04:26:34 | wacky_ | it's 14Mb compressed, 40 uncompressed |
| 04:27:17 | ncrawla | cool |
| 04:27:18 | wacky_ | http://bourget.cc/dump/m68k-devel.tar.bz2 |
| 04:27:24 | ncrawla | excellent |
| 04:27:26 | ncrawla | ty |
| 04:27:29 | gap | Thanks! |
| 04:27:42 | rasher | gap: that's compiled for linux.. |
| 04:27:51 | rasher | aren't you doing cygwin? |
| 04:27:58 | wacky_ | gap - for linux, yeah.. |
| 04:28:01 | rasher | or am I making stuff up |
| 04:28:43 | wacky_ | just dump that .tar.bz2 somewhere and do: export PATH=/path/to/that/place/bin:$PATH |
| 04:28:57 | ncrawla | that should be www.bourget.cc right.. |
| 04:29:00 | wacky_ | and follow the rest of the stuff, ../tools/configure, then make |
| 04:29:14 | wacky_ | what I do is make a zip and unzip -d /mnt/removable rockbox.zip |
| 04:29:25 | ncrawla | er hm |
| 04:29:29 | wacky_ | so I do 'make zip' and then 'unzip -d /mnt/removable rockbox.zip' from within my 'build' subdir |
| 04:29:29 | ncrawla | Resolving bourget.cc... failed: Host not found. |
| 04:29:41 | wacky_ | try out ip.bourget.cc:8080 instead |
| 04:29:46 | wacky_ | bourget.cc is a redirection anyway |
| 04:29:54 | gap | Yes, I'm using cygwin |
| 04:30:18 | wacky_ | so is Linus going to test the 1.65 soon ? :) |
| 04:30:20 | ncrawla | yeah seems to be working now i just had to try it a couple of times |
| 04:30:20 | ncrawla | :o |
| 04:31:42 | rasher | wacky_: I don't think it's a very high priority.. plus he appears to have been busy lately |
| 04:32:26 | wacky_ | what are the risks ? |
| 04:32:38 | rasher | a brick |
| 04:32:56 | wacky_ | oh please, a paperweight, at least! |
| 04:32:56 | rasher | not sure how likely it is though |
| 04:33:59 | rasher | I think the tools do some checks when injecting the bootloader into the firmware |
| 04:35:21 | gap | Figured out what was wrong with the build, I think... |
| 04:35:33 | gap | m4 wasn't installed at the time of the configure; it was installed afterward |
| 04:35:36 | gap | so it marked it missing |
| 04:35:47 | gap | It didn't say in the wiki that m4 was needed |
| 04:36:03 | rasher | add a note :) |
| 04:40:07 | gap | How do you install m4 on Mandrake and debian? |
| 04:40:18 | gap | urpmi m4 and apt-get m4 ? |
| 04:40:30 | gap | apt-get install m4 ? |
| 04:40:37 | rasher | apt-get install m4 indeed |
| 04:40:44 | gap | ok |
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| 04:42:46 | gap | added to wiki |
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| 04:50:38 | wacky_ | hmmmm.. I'm really tempted to try out the 1.65 with the bootloader :) Everything compiled and scrambled/descrambled well....... |
| 04:51:01 | wacky_ | rasher - do you live near Linus ? |
| 04:52:43 | rasher | neighbouring country |
| 04:53:14 | wacky_ | hmmm.. |
| 04:53:21 | rasher | I really don't think you should :-\ |
| 04:53:28 | wacky_ | what about you trying to paperweightify you iRivier ? |
| 04:53:36 | wacky_ | s/i// |
| 04:53:39 | rasher | Na |
| 04:53:56 | wacky_ | come on!! :)) I send you the .hex file and you try out :) heehee! let's go |
| 04:54:05 | rasher | I'm in no hurry to get 1.65 going |
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| 04:54:37 | wacky_ | ahh.. I'd like to have a bit more recording options.. but I can't live without the playlist support of the rockbox |
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| 04:56:06 | * | wacky_ will waaaaaaaaaait then.. |
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| 05:20:25 | wacky_ | how can I create a patch with a file not in CVS ? |
| 05:20:35 | wacky_ | cvs diff -u won't deal with files not in CVS |
| 05:20:44 | rasher | is this for a plugin? |
| 05:21:05 | wacky_ | yeah.. but I have a couple of mods in SOURCES and viewers.config .. so I want a single patch with the whole file and tiny details around |
| 05:21:27 | rasher | just submit the c file and a diff I think |
| 05:21:42 | wacky_ | in the patches tracker ? |
| 05:21:52 | rasher | yeah |
| 05:22:29 | rasher | just the c file is fine for a plugin, but I guess the viewers info needs to go somewhere |
| 05:35:41 | wacky_ | ok I submitted the patch. |
| 05:35:51 | wacky_ | Is the patch tracker used a lot by the team ? |
| 05:36:05 | rasher | I'm not entirely sure how much |
| 05:36:11 | wacky_ | ok |
| 05:36:14 | wacky_ | see you guys later |
| 05:36:21 | rasher | bye |
| 05:36:25 | wacky_ | going to try later to investigate the booting problem |
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| 05:47:03 | gap | I cannot believe that the compiler has been making for like an hour |
| 05:47:56 | rasher | :-O |
| 05:48:13 | rasher | what kind of cpu? |
| 05:48:43 | gap | Well, 1 GHz PIII, but, it's running in Cygwin |
| 05:49:28 | rasher | mhm |
| 05:49:47 | rasher | iirc, cygwin is bad at program startup |
| 05:49:56 | rasher | which happens a lot during compilations |
| 05:51:43 | gap | damn it: ccwoz6Pb.s: Assembler messages: |
| 05:51:49 | gap | Error: operands mismatch −− statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored |
| 05:51:54 | gap | Error: operands mismatch −− statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored |
| 05:52:10 | gap | Well that's lovely |
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| 05:57:42 | rasher | that's.. precious |
| 05:58:39 | gap | yah, I don't know how to recover from it |
| 05:58:43 | gap | It halted the make |
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| 06:00:44 | gap | I suppose I'll have to switch to a slightly older release of gcc |
| 06:00:45 | rasher | I have no idea.. sorry |
| 06:00:59 | gap | I was trying to make gcc-3.4.3 |
| 06:01:04 | gap | I'll try 3.4.0 |
| 06:01:21 | rasher | that's.. older? |
| 06:02:39 | rasher | iriver still running |
| 06:03:25 | rasher | Battery level: C0 |
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| 06:40:13 | Bagder | gap: you really using the binutils from CVS? |
| 06:42:22 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 06:49:18 | rasher | I have battery data |
| 06:49:25 | rasher | hurray |
| 06:50:31 | gap | I was using the binutils from CVS, yes |
| 06:50:39 | gap | rasher: How's the data? |
| 06:51:19 | rasher | it's more or less linear with a sudden drop at the end |
| 06:51:48 | rasher | or actually.. |
| 06:51:54 | gap | That's normal, I'd imagine |
| 06:52:16 | rasher | probably more or less sqrt() |
| 06:53:07 | gap | BTW How do you unzip a bz2 archive in linux? |
| 06:53:31 | rasher | tar as well? |
| 06:53:42 | rasher | tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2 |
| 06:54:00 | gap | Okay, thanx |
| 06:54:10 | gap | I didn't know if it was similar to gzip |
| 06:54:25 | rasher | it is, except z -> j |
| 06:56:36 | gap | Why is cygwin so slow? |
| 06:57:49 | rasher | rasher.dk/iriver-battery.png">http://rasher.dk/iriver-battery.png |
| 06:57:52 | rasher | rasher.dk/iriver-battery.log">http://rasher.dk/iriver-battery.log |
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| 07:00:05 | gap | Very smart of you to record the time as well −− that way you didn't have to keep track of it |
| 07:00:13 | gap | Good job rasher |
| 07:00:28 | rasher | :) |
| 07:00:43 | gap | This should help us make an accurate battery meter |
| 07:00:43 | rasher | let's hope it's useful |
| 07:01:09 | gap | Well, I'd say the warning messages about the battery should start around 210 or less |
| 07:01:28 | gap | Maybe 200 |
| 07:10:16 | rasher | there, added to the wiki |
| 07:19:17 | gap | Well, I'm gonna get off now. Talk to you all later! |
| 07:19:24 | gap | Again, good work rasher |
| 07:19:32 | gap | See you |
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| 08:16:07 | LinusN | any iriver owners here who use the digital out? |
| 08:32:38 | amiconn | Is digital out necessary to catch the digital flow? ;) |
| 08:32:59 | LinusN | absolutely |
| 08:33:18 | dwihno | I love that iriver tune! :) |
| 08:33:20 | dwihno | It's so funky! |
| 08:33:43 | LinusN | was about to try on my home stereo, but i dodn't have the correct optical cable :-( |
| 08:35:53 | LinusN | it would be awful if we had to set up a timer interrupt every 20us... |
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| 08:53:57 | Liehbeth | LinusN: I use it occasionally. |
| 08:54:54 | dwihno | LinusN: The 1.8" disks are some kind of special low power mode? Do you know which voltage they operate under? |
| 08:55:11 | * | dwihno goes studying english since he's not making any sense at all anymore :) |
| 08:58:57 | LinusN | Liehbeth: does your stereo report the sampling rate? |
| 08:59:23 | Liehbeth | I'm actually using the front panel of the Audigy 2 Platinum |
| 08:59:24 | Liehbeth | . |
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| 09:00:04 | LinusN | i want to know if the h1x0 really outputs 48khz or if it downsamples to 44.1khz |
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| 09:01:43 | Liehbeth | Hmm.. I'll do some searching. I may not be able to get much, though, as I've heard that the Audigy 2 does some funky things to digital I/O. |
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| 09:04:50 | Schnueff | moin |
| 09:05:53 | LinusN | morning |
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| 09:33:19 | kurzhaarrocker | Could someone do me a favor and verify that the patch ("recledtrig_bar.patch") at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=868645 is downloadable an that the file really looks like a patch file? I tried to upload it serveral times using different browsers and usually the file was either scrambled or all linefeeds were missing. |
| 09:36:20 | Schnueff | i get recledtrig_bar.patch with md5sum 3824d6c1f075568bd88bd27d99890b14 |
| 09:36:45 | kurzhaarrocker | does it look like a patch file? |
| 09:36:51 | Schnueff | yes |
| 09:36:55 | Schnueff | there's a stray CR in it |
| 09:37:34 | Schnueff | just following set_poweroff_timeout(global_settings.poweroff); |
| 09:37:55 | kurzhaarrocker | well, I think people can live with it :) |
| 09:37:59 | kurzhaarrocker | Thank you, Schnueff |
| 09:38:02 | Schnueff | np |
| 09:39:01 | Liehbeth | LinusN: It doesn't look like I'm going to get any results any time soon. I'll let you know if I do, though. |
| 09:39:59 | LinusN | allright |
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| 09:50:36 | Lynx_ | kurzhaarrocker: not that i doubted it, but you were right with the hd pcb, it didn't work on the other one... |
| 09:50:51 | kurzhaarrocker | :( |
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| 09:54:17 | kurzhaarrocker | gcc -O -ansi -g -c -o scramble.o scramble.c |
| 09:54:17 | kurzhaarrocker | make[2]: *** [scramble.o] Error 255 |
| 09:54:17 | kurzhaarrocker | Hä? |
| 09:54:28 | LinusN | no compiler? |
| 09:54:44 | LinusN | gcc −−version |
| 09:54:48 | kurzhaarrocker | seems you're right |
| 09:55:23 | * | kurzhaarrocker tries to track down where his compiler has gone on holiday |
| 09:55:36 | LinusN | he left you |
| 09:56:09 | LinusN | he said he felt unappreciated |
| 09:56:40 | kurzhaarrocker | I didn't care for it for a long time... |
| 09:56:45 | LinusN | exactly |
| 09:57:18 | LinusN | you have to take care of it, and give it some source code once in a while |
| 09:58:28 | kurzhaarrocker | I should get an upgrade anyway. It produced fat objects. Bigger than necessary. |
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| 10:01:11 | LinusN | oh |
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| 10:08:38 | kurzhaarrocker | for building the toos I need the gcc-core and not the gcc-g++ compiler, right? |
| 10:09:50 | LinusN | yup |
| 10:10:01 | kurzhaarrocker | thx |
| 10:10:54 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 10:11:39 | kurzhaarrocker | (where it says Devel - gcc but cygwin offers plenty gcc variants) |
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| 10:55:15 | kurzhaarrocker | yay - with the new compiler rockbox + triggered recording is small enough to fit into rombox again. |
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| 11:00:28 | amiconn | I told you... |
| 11:00:53 | CoCoLUS | what? :) |
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| 14:04:13 | HCl | heh. |
| 14:04:16 | * | HCl slaps valknut |
| 14:05:23 | preglow | strange battery log |
| 14:08:10 | HCl | ? |
| 14:08:23 | preglow | rasher made a battery log |
| 14:08:26 | preglow | its in the wiki |
| 14:09:00 | HCl | *goes to see* |
| 14:10:28 | HCl | don't see it o.o; |
| 14:10:41 | preglow | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/IriverPort/iriver-battery.png |
| 14:11:12 | HCl | thats nice, but i have no idea what the numbers mean :X |
| 14:12:29 | preglow | it's what you read out the battery level adc |
| 14:12:55 | HCl | oh. |
| 14:13:03 | HCl | he managed to read battery levels |
| 14:13:03 | HCl | ? |
| 14:14:40 | preglow | we've always been able to do that |
| 14:14:58 | preglow | he just logged the battery levels in a mpa2wav decoding loop to see how the level changed with actual battery capacity |
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| 14:24:35 | HCl | ah. |
| 14:24:42 | HCl | why doesn't battery reading work in rockbox then...? |
| 14:24:53 | HCl | 3 hours isn't much |
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| 14:25:06 | preglow | as i said, it's in a mpa2wav decoding loop |
| 14:25:13 | HCl | onto disk? |
| 14:25:16 | preglow | yes |
| 14:25:17 | LinusN | which keeps the disk spinning |
| 14:25:18 | HCl | or onto ram? |
| 14:25:20 | HCl | ah. ok. |
| 14:25:35 | preglow | battery reading doesn't work in rockbox because this data was produced less than half a day ago |
| 14:26:08 | HCl | hm. |
| 14:26:09 | HCl | mk |
| 14:26:53 | LinusN | next thing will be to map the ADC readings to actual voltages, then we can make the battery meter work |
| 14:27:18 | LinusN | i'm hoping to do those measurements this evening |
| 14:27:23 | preglow | well, that should just be a quick measurement, yes? |
| 14:27:28 | preglow | that is, two quick measurements |
| 14:27:33 | LinusN | exactly |
| 14:27:42 | HCl | nice |
| 14:27:42 | HCl | :) |
| 14:27:55 | HCl | i think i'll take a look at playing mods soon.. |
| 14:28:05 | HCl | mod players used to be cool |
| 14:28:14 | preglow | they still are, god damn it!"#¤! |
| 14:28:18 | HCl | xD |
| 14:28:21 | HCl | sorry |
| 14:28:32 | HCl | i just say used to because i don't listen to them anymore |
| 14:28:47 | preglow | my mod collection vanished in the great disk crash of 2004, but they're all available on the net |
| 14:28:50 | LinusN | i asked a question on the mr forum about the optical sampling rate, no reply so far |
| 14:29:00 | HCl | lol. |
| 14:29:03 | HCl | the great disk crash. |
| 14:29:04 | HCl | xD |
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| 14:29:27 | * | kurzhaarrocker can't help LinusN because he doesn't own any IRivers |
| 14:29:35 | HCl | why is it so hard to find certain music on the net :/ |
| 14:29:37 | tvelocity | yeah i lost a lot of files to on the great disk crash of 2004 |
| 14:29:38 | tvelocity | :P |
| 14:29:52 | HCl | i don't suppose any of you have "rochelle - eternal flame (almighty definitive mix)" |
| 14:29:56 | HCl | ? |
| 14:30:24 | preglow | i can't make my minidisc player display sample rate, so no help here either |
| 14:30:33 | preglow | and that's the only thing i've got that accepts optical in |
| 14:31:42 | HCl | hm. |
| 14:31:50 | tvelocity | my sound card accepts optical in. does that help at all? |
| 14:32:00 | HCl | one of my flatmates has some optical stuff. but i don't have an optical cable.. |
| 14:32:07 | preglow | tvelocity: well, yes, if you can somehow read the sampling rate on the incoming stream |
| 14:32:32 | tvelocity | i have no idea how to do that (if it's possible) |
| 14:32:42 | tvelocity | i've never used it before |
| 14:32:48 | preglow | it should be very possible, but i've not experience with s/pdif on pcs, so i don't know |
| 14:32:48 | LinusN | looks like rockbox for the ifp-5xx might be a no-go :-( |
| 14:32:54 | preglow | LinusN: how come? |
| 14:33:17 | LinusN | the dsp is not user-programmable |
| 14:33:25 | preglow | great |
| 14:33:28 | LinusN | you have to use the non-free philips codecs |
| 14:33:47 | preglow | bah |
| 14:34:41 | LinusN | "The EPICS7A core is not currently programmable by the end user at this time. Our firware engineers currently use assebly at our factory to program the core with features. I have not been made aware that this feature will be optional for the end user in anytime soon." |
| 14:35:51 | preglow | hahaha |
| 14:35:59 | preglow | is everything half-baked? |
| 14:36:05 | preglow | i want a player that has perfect hardware, god damnit |
| 14:36:49 | LinusN | it's all about time-to-market |
| 14:36:55 | preglow | yes, of course |
| 14:38:25 | preglow | is the battery glued to the back case of the player or what? |
| 14:38:28 | Lynx_ | I always wonder if it would be possible to design an open source hardware player, and then have it manufactured... |
| 14:38:46 | kurzhaarrocker | You always should have a few TORX 172 around... |
| 14:38:47 | preglow | Lynx_: possible, yes, cause of your personal bankrupcy, yes |
| 14:38:50 | Lynx_ | An how high the initial investment would be |
| 14:38:55 | LinusN | perfectly possible, but marketing is a hell |
| 14:39:08 | preglow | i've got torx drivers |
| 14:39:15 | preglow | but the battery is friggin' stuck |
| 14:39:20 | Lynx_ | preglow: well, looking at the fundraising of websites, it should be possible... |
| 14:39:59 | preglow | well, sure, try :P |
| 14:40:03 | preglow | i'll back you up |
| 14:40:04 | kurzhaarrocker | I don't mean torx screw drivers but optical spdif receivers :) |
| 14:40:13 | Lynx_ | one would have to get a few thousand people to pay for the player in advance, trusting it will be good if they can follow and influence the design process |
| 14:40:42 | Lynx_ | preglow: ok, for backup i need 50000$, for starters ;) |
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| 14:43:17 | preglow | no backup, this is gambling, baby |
| 14:44:10 | Lynx_ | hehe. how many units does one have to produce to get into the iriver/archos priceranges? hundreds or thousands or more? |
| 14:44:30 | preglow | more than thousand |
| 14:44:30 | preglow | s |
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| 14:47:46 | rasher | \o/ |
| 14:50:54 | preglow | _o/ |
| 14:51:33 | HCl | o.O |
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| 14:58:03 | rasher | glad the battery log is useful |
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| 15:05:18 | preglow | i wonder what the weird spikes come from |
| 15:06:21 | LinusN | probably from the backlight when rasher pushed a key to check the display...? |
| 15:08:21 | preglow | rasher: is this so? |
| 15:08:41 | preglow | sounds very plausible, at least |
| 15:08:46 | preglow | backlight does suck quite a bit of power |
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| 15:09:06 | rasher | no, I didn't touch it |
| 15:09:12 | rasher | had the backlight on at all times |
| 15:09:53 | LinusN | ok |
| 15:10:00 | rasher | it doesn't even fit hdd spinup |
| 15:10:17 | preglow | hdd just spins up once at the start, no? |
| 15:10:42 | rasher | hrm, I think it read the file each time |
| 15:10:46 | rasher | not quite sure though |
| 15:10:53 | preglow | a, you didn't disk write? |
| 15:11:07 | rasher | oh right |
| 15:11:10 | preglow | :-) |
| 15:11:12 | rasher | yes |
| 15:11:15 | rasher | silly me |
| 15:11:20 | preglow | i also wonder why the curve is so irregular |
| 15:11:27 | preglow | but i don't know a whole lot about batteries |
| 15:11:39 | LinusN | you mean it drops off fast at the end? |
| 15:11:53 | preglow | no, that is understandable |
| 15:12:04 | preglow | the level is very steady for a while |
| 15:12:05 | preglow | then drops several samples |
| 15:12:07 | preglow | then steady again |
| 15:12:08 | preglow | etc |
| 15:12:11 | LinusN | ah |
| 15:13:14 | LinusN | yeah, that's weird |
| 15:13:17 | rasher | any point in running it again |
| 15:13:21 | rasher | ? |
| 15:13:26 | LinusN | nah |
| 15:13:51 | preglow | wouldn't think so |
| 15:14:01 | LinusN | rasher: which cpu frequency was this? |
| 15:14:22 | rasher | 120 |
| 15:14:41 | LinusN | in fact, it would be interesting to run it in 48MHz |
| 15:14:53 | rasher | I can do that :) |
| 15:15:09 | LinusN | i suspect the low spikes to be misreadings |
| 15:15:31 | LinusN | due to the high clock frequency on the spi interface to the adc |
| 15:15:36 | preglow | ahh |
| 15:16:31 | preglow | i've seen the output value dither, but not that badly |
| 15:17:18 | LinusN | is markun ever here? |
| 15:18:03 | rasher | okay, test running |
| 15:18:10 | LinusN | rasher: great |
| 15:18:32 | rasher | wow, that really changes decoding speed |
| 15:18:41 | HCl | i think he reads the logs.. |
| 15:18:46 | rasher | and not just to a third |
| 15:18:55 | preglow | it scales more or less linearly |
| 15:18:55 | LinusN | so it seems that 120MHz with disk spinning non-stop still gives us almost 3hrs playtime |
| 15:19:05 | rasher | that's pretty good |
| 15:19:17 | preglow | corresponds very well to the iriver firmware |
| 15:19:47 | preglow | disk by far the greatest power hog |
| 15:20:09 | rasher | preglow: hrm... getting 8% on a file that did 90% with cpu_boost on |
| 15:20:22 | LinusN | rasher: are you sure it is 48mhz? |
| 15:20:22 | rasher | any chance I'm running 11mhz? |
| 15:20:33 | rasher | I.. don't know |
| 15:20:39 | LinusN | to run at 48, you must first go to 120 and then down again |
| 15:20:46 | rasher | ah |
| 15:20:51 | rasher | well then I'm sure it isn't |
| 15:21:00 | LinusN | the boost system is designed to start at 48 |
| 15:21:02 | preglow | you're running at 11mhz now |
| 15:21:19 | LinusN | but it is still at 11 when booting |
| 15:21:42 | LinusN | for now |
| 15:21:56 | preglow | LinusN: does the instruction decoder fetch a dword at a time, or does it fetch just what it needs? |
| 15:22:18 | LinusN | it fetches only what it needs |
| 15:22:29 | LinusN | but the cache fetches 16 bytes at a time |
| 15:22:32 | rasher | will two calls to cpu_boost() make sure this happens correctly, or do I have to give it some time? |
| 15:22:47 | LinusN | two calls will work |
| 15:22:54 | rasher | excellent |
| 15:22:55 | LinusN | s/will/should/ :-) |
| 15:23:01 | rasher | :) |
| 15:23:10 | preglow | i'm using 16 bit displacement mode a lot of places where i should be using increment or decrement addressing |
| 15:23:21 | preglow | doesn't matter much when the code is in iram, but we should try avoiding that |
| 15:23:52 | LinusN | the data bus is 16 bits |
| 15:24:04 | preglow | i thought you said the iram data bus was 32 bits |
| 15:24:08 | LinusN | iram, yes |
| 15:24:16 | LinusN | sorry |
| 15:24:33 | preglow | yup, but i'm planning one putting as little code as possible in iram |
| 15:24:38 | * | rasher charges again |
| 15:24:42 | preglow | data is more important |
| 15:24:54 | LinusN | preglow: iram is a scarce resource |
| 15:25:11 | preglow | trying to put as many loops in the code as i can |
| 15:25:20 | LinusN | and, as you said, code is not that critical, thanks to the cache |
| 15:25:28 | preglow | coldfire doesn't have much of a pipeline to ruin on branches anyway |
| 15:25:36 | LinusN | hehe, no |
| 15:25:58 | LinusN | it's so lame, in comparison with modern cpus |
| 15:25:58 | preglow | i think the emac unit is more heavily pipelined than the main execution unit |
| 15:25:58 | preglow | heh |
| 15:26:48 | preglow | quite |
| 15:27:34 | rasher | the jpeg plugin with cpu_boosts is really fast :) |
| 15:28:06 | rasher | and the mandelbrot |
| 15:28:12 | LinusN | i wish markun could continue the work with the grayscale lcd |
| 15:28:13 | preglow | what, they work? |
| 15:28:17 | rasher | but that one screws up when zooming in and out |
| 15:28:26 | rasher | with markun's patch they do |
| 15:28:30 | preglow | qahh |
| 15:28:52 | LinusN | his patch is only half-finished |
| 15:29:09 | rasher | hence why you can't pan jpegs |
| 15:29:16 | rasher | and the reset problems |
| 15:29:29 | preglow | but we've agreed on keeping the framebuffer in the internal format? |
| 15:29:46 | LinusN | i definitely want that |
| 15:29:54 | preglow | i agree wholeheartedly |
| 15:30:18 | preglow | i don't think wasting resources on abstraction is a good idea on limited platforms like this, if we can avoid it |
| 15:30:24 | LinusN | ack |
| 15:30:27 | rasher | is it worth considering the possible colourscreen of h300? |
| 15:30:46 | LinusN | we'll address that when the day comes |
| 15:30:49 | preglow | yes |
| 15:31:05 | preglow | i wonder how hard it'll be to get the specs for the screen |
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| 15:31:24 | preglow | hah |
| 15:31:26 | LinusN | we need to find out which screen it is |
| 15:31:28 | preglow | talk of the devil! |
| 15:31:28 | rasher | well speak of the devil |
| 15:31:53 | preglow | speak/talk, i suck |
| 15:31:54 | markun | I was spying a bit in the irc log :) |
| 15:32:10 | rasher | that really has some amusing consequences |
| 15:32:16 | LinusN | too bad i have to run to catch the train |
| 15:32:30 | preglow | see you later |
| 15:32:39 | rasher | like this, and people answering questions asked before they joined |
| 15:32:39 | markun | bye bye LinusN |
| 15:32:48 | rasher | run LinusN, run! |
| 15:33:04 | LinusN | bye bye |
| 15:33:05 | preglow | rasher: yes, that seeming omnipotence used to freak me out |
| 15:33:05 | preglow | haha |
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| 15:33:15 | preglow | ask a question, and bam, people are falling in answering it |
| 15:33:38 | rasher | it would be more scary if the log wasn't public |
| 15:33:46 | preglow | turning your perception of the world on its head |
| 15:33:46 | preglow | heh |
| 15:34:02 | markun | the wiki now says ogg decoding is running above 100%, this is not true, is it? |
| 15:34:08 | preglow | no |
| 15:34:15 | preglow | not as far as i know |
| 15:34:47 | rasher | there should be a codec status on the codec page instead |
| 15:34:54 | HCl | i agree. |
| 15:34:56 | preglow | yup |
| 15:35:17 | * | rasher creates it |
| 15:35:57 | markun | HCl: I have an optical cable for my iriver but I don't have anything to plug it in to. |
| 15:36:23 | markun | Maybe I could come by your house so we can read the speed on your flat mate's stereo? |
| 15:36:51 | preglow | give him some dirty porn, he'll surely let you use it |
| 15:38:07 | markun | HCl: Are you at home right now? |
| 15:38:27 | HCl | yea |
| 15:38:28 | HCl | i am |
| 15:38:42 | HCl | i dunno if my flatmate actually has something useful to plug it into though |
| 15:38:45 | HCl | let me ask first |
| 15:38:52 | markun | ok |
| 15:40:36 | preglow | i don't think fiber transmission was even invented when my amp was made |
| 15:41:04 | HCl | i don't think he's home. |
| 15:41:20 | markun | Then I'll drop by the cable anyway, ok? |
| 15:42:34 | HCl | okay |
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| 15:43:13 | HCl | i have no idea whether it'll be any use though :/ |
| 15:43:26 | HCl | i just know he used to have an optical cable... |
| 15:43:29 | HCl | from his stereo, i think |
| 15:48:04 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status |
| 15:48:25 | rasher | please correct it |
| 15:50:30 | preglow | done |
| 15:51:05 | rasher | :) |
| 15:52:29 | preglow | just fixed some flac stuff and an overly optimistic non-cvs-opt statement |
| 15:53:10 | rasher | heh |
| 15:53:20 | preglow | it does run over 200% on some files, though |
| 15:53:31 | preglow | but it's not consistent |
| 15:53:51 | rasher | alright |
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| 16:02:31 | Tomas|laptop | hi |
| 16:03:36 | Tomas|laptop | anybody here close to the Netherlands? |
| 16:04:04 | preglow | there are several _in_ the netherlands |
| 16:04:42 | Tomas|laptop | yeah, and they are all happy i guess :D |
| 16:05:01 | Tomas|laptop | it's 18 degrees celcius here... while it was -4 last week |
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| 16:16:38 | HCl | *nods* |
| 16:19:56 | amiconn | Tomas|laptop: similar here (Berlin, 17 deg. C) |
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| 16:20:13 | Tomas|laptop | oh cool, where in berlin do you live? |
| 16:20:43 | HCl | got an optical cable of markun.. gonna see if my flatmate has optical in on his stereo.. |
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| 16:25:49 | AC | hi all |
| 16:25:52 | AC | such a nic |
| 16:25:54 | AC | e day |
| 16:26:00 | Tomas|laptop | yeah |
| 16:26:03 | AC | 10 degresse and sunshine :) |
| 16:26:06 | Tomas|laptop | 18 here |
| 16:26:07 | AC | 18 |
| 16:26:11 | Tomas|laptop | I'm in the garden :D |
| 16:26:31 | AC | that seems to be a nice idead |
| 16:27:22 | preglow | still snow here |
| 16:27:25 | preglow | nice weather, though |
| 16:27:34 | Tomas|laptop | yeah, but my battery is almost empty :X |
| 16:27:41 | Tomas|laptop | so I gotta move :( |
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| 16:27:49 | AC | here in austria is still some snow.... |
| 16:28:28 | tvelocity[away] | i have seen snow, about... 3 times in my life |
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| 16:32:14 | T0mas | hi |
| 16:32:17 | T0mas | back |
| 16:32:21 | HCl | wb |
| 16:32:31 | preglow | i see it daily |
| 16:32:43 | preglow | won't miss it when it goes |
| 16:32:47 | T0mas | tnx |
| 16:35:09 | tvelocity[away] | it has snowed here ONCE the last 20 years |
| 16:35:18 | tvelocity[away] | so i pretty much miss it |
| 16:35:26 | T0mas | arg |
| 16:35:27 | T0mas | greece |
| 16:35:36 | T0mas | where in greece are you |
| 16:35:41 | tvelocity[away] | crete |
| 16:35:51 | * | T0mas was on a little island karpathos last year |
| 16:35:55 | T0mas | really nice :D |
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| 16:40:02 | tvelocity[away] | it's nice here only for vacation, but generaly it pretty much sucks |
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| 16:58:02 | HCl | mmmm |
| 16:58:30 | * | HCl found a cool site regarding tcpa while looking at the mod player |
| 16:58:38 | HCl | www.againsttcpa.com |
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| 17:07:59 | rasher | running it now |
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| 20:10:01 | T0mas | wow... missed a lot of talking since I left 3,5 hours ago :P |
| 20:13:23 | rasher | :) |
| 20:15:17 | HCl | yup |
| 20:16:38 | * | rasher waits for another battery test to finish |
| 20:16:52 | HCl | still? |
| 20:17:09 | rasher | takes just over 3 hours |
| 20:20:44 | rasher | oops, getting a bit hot |
| 20:20:53 | * | rasher lies it in a draft |
| 20:21:16 | thegeek_ | ha!, while you were waiting for the batterytest to finish I have completely reorganized my room and cleaned it. |
| 20:21:19 | | Nick thegeek_ is now known as thegeek (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) |
| 20:21:20 | thegeek | ;) |
| 20:21:42 | tvelocity | thegeek, what a geeky thing to do:P |
| 20:21:48 | thegeek | humhum |
| 20:21:56 | rasher | well I've not just been sitting here staring at it ::) |
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| 20:22:06 | thegeek | I was getting annoyed with having my desk in front of my window, I hate cold hands |
| 20:22:54 | * | rasher impatiently waits for gnome to get composite support |
| 20:23:25 | thegeek | bah, I hate cleaning my room |
| 20:23:42 | tvelocity | metacity has composite support in CVS AFAIK |
| 20:24:02 | thegeek | when I start I am always really enthusiastic, but halfway through I realize I should never have started, and then I just kinda sit down and look at the huge mess |
| 20:24:15 | rasher | tvelocity: ooooh |
| 20:24:39 | rasher | looks like 2.12 will be the hot release |
| 20:25:06 | tvelocity | 2.12 will also support cairo. which is uber-cool :) |
| 20:25:11 | rasher | cairo, compositing |
| 20:25:16 | rasher | indeed |
| 20:25:40 | preglow | compositing |
| 20:25:41 | preglow | ? |
| 20:25:57 | tvelocity | preglow, real transparencies, shadows, etc |
| 20:26:03 | preglow | xcompmgr! |
| 20:26:10 | rasher | that's just a silly hack |
| 20:26:18 | rasher | the window manager needs to take care of it |
| 20:26:28 | tvelocity | yeah i agree with rasher |
| 20:26:36 | rasher | or possibly even the toolkit |
| 20:26:38 | preglow | haha, i don't know, i just tried it the other day |
| 20:26:42 | tvelocity | xcompmgr has many side-effects |
| 20:26:42 | preglow | so, when's 2.12 due? |
| 20:26:47 | tvelocity | september |
| 20:26:47 | rasher | 6 months |
| 20:26:50 | preglow | ouch |
| 20:27:16 | * | rasher will be tracking grumpygroundhog |
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| 20:32:29 | rasher | actually, the more I think of it, I think gtk should know about compositig |
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| 20:32:42 | rasher | so you can have transparant widgets and opaque ones |
| 20:33:26 | preglow | well, of course it should |
| 20:33:36 | preglow | having shadows around the tooltips blobs wasn't very cool, heh |
| 20:40:46 | rasher | that's pretty dumb yes |
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| 21:01:18 | T0mas | hm... |
| 21:01:23 | T0mas | little c++ question.. |
| 21:01:30 | T0mas | I have something like this: |
| 21:01:34 | T0mas | char tmp[3]; |
| 21:01:40 | T0mas | infile >> tmp; |
| 21:01:51 | T0mas | where infile is a ifstream |
| 21:02:22 | T0mas | but why doesn't it crash when I read a line of 10 chars from the file? into a 3 char array... |
| 21:03:19 | T0mas | it works normally... and I can use all 10 characters in the 3 char array :X |
| 21:03:46 | HCl | it'll only crash after it tries to read the stack pointer. |
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| 21:04:35 | T0mas | strange... i tought it would crash after the first line loaded... |
| 21:04:41 | HCl | no. |
| 21:04:41 | T0mas | of overwrite some other var... |
| 21:04:45 | T0mas | of = or |
| 21:04:49 | HCl | well, it should overwrite some other var. |
| 21:05:03 | T0mas | yeah, so I checked the others... nothing happened to them... |
| 21:05:14 | HCl | maybe its some odd c++ thing. |
| 21:05:17 | T0mas | maybe just a little luck with memory assignement? |
| 21:05:20 | HCl | or maybe your platform. |
| 21:05:24 | T0mas | windows :) |
| 21:05:56 | HCl | thats probably it. |
| 21:08:44 | HCl | yay for my internet connection |
| 21:08:50 | HCl | 11mbit up/down without limits |
| 21:10:03 | rasher | lookslike running the cpu at 1/3 speed does a real difference ("surprise") |
| 21:10:22 | HCl | mmm? |
| 21:10:25 | HCl | how much? |
| 21:10:40 | rasher | about an hour |
| 21:10:50 | HCl | mk |
| 21:10:59 | T0mas | 1 on ? |
| 21:11:05 | rasher | 3->4 |
| 21:11:12 | T0mas | ok, that's 33% |
| 21:11:40 | T0mas | (what device? iriver? archos?) |
| 21:11:47 | HCl | iriver. |
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| 21:12:04 | T0mas | hm... isn't it really short? or was it with disk running fulltime? |
| 21:12:13 | rasher | disk running full time |
| 21:12:23 | preglow | rasher: how long has it been running? |
| 21:12:24 | rasher | unoptimized codec |
| 21:12:42 | rasher | just over 4 hours now |
| 21:13:04 | rasher | the other stopped at 2:45 |
| 21:13:11 | preglow | wow |
| 21:13:30 | preglow | i would not have thought it made such a difference |
| 21:13:38 | rasher | battery at C5 (197) now |
| 21:13:52 | rasher | which is like 4-5 minutes from dying |
| 21:14:12 | preglow | woot |
| 21:14:24 | T0mas | preglow: sounds intresting for our timer idea :D |
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| 21:14:32 | preglow | looking forward to seeing the graph |
| 21:14:56 | preglow | T0mas: yup |
| 21:15:09 | rasher | very much |
| 21:15:12 | HCl | timer idea? |
| 21:15:24 | rasher | put the device into low-power mmode |
| 21:15:30 | rasher | and have it sleep for a given time |
| 21:15:32 | T0mas | HCl: make it run at te lowest possible speed, with no disk and backlight |
| 21:15:39 | rasher | lookslike cpu speed really matters |
| 21:15:47 | rasher | at least, matters significantly |
| 21:15:52 | T0mas | yeah.. |
| 21:16:05 | rasher | I could try writing a plugin that doesn't use hdd |
| 21:16:08 | preglow | i'd like to use my player as a wakeup alarm |
| 21:16:15 | rasher | that'd take a while though :-\ |
| 21:16:26 | HCl | and then? |
| 21:16:37 | T0mas | rasher: what do you mean not use hdd? |
| 21:16:41 | preglow | so i was pondering on the feasability of powering down everything possible, and just running a timer interrupt |
| 21:16:42 | HCl | oh. it can do that fine. |
| 21:16:44 | HCl | i once like.. |
| 21:16:49 | HCl | with normal iriver fw |
| 21:16:55 | HCl | i played some music during the day |
| 21:16:59 | HCl | and i was listening to radio with it |
| 21:17:02 | HCl | before going to sleep |
| 21:17:04 | HCl | and when i woke up |
| 21:17:08 | HCl | i found it was still playing radio |
| 21:17:10 | preglow | ahh |
| 21:17:11 | T0mas | yeah |
| 21:17:11 | HCl | and i forgot to turn it off |
| 21:17:11 | rasher | T0mas: just do cpu-work and graph that |
| 21:17:15 | preglow | it can for hours and hours in radio mode |
| 21:17:23 | T0mas | rasher: oooh ok |
| 21:17:35 | rasher | and see the difference between 120mhz and 11mhz |
| 21:17:36 | T0mas | HCl: i do that ever few day's... |
| 21:17:38 | preglow | i used for an entire day in radio mode, and was still four battery meter |
| 21:17:55 | preglow | FULL battery meter |
| 21:18:05 | T0mas | yeah, but radio doesn't use hdd and cpu... |
| 21:18:19 | preglow | exactly, and neither will it in wakeup mode |
| 21:18:24 | T0mas | indeed :D |
| 21:18:33 | preglow | it'll use even less power then |
| 21:18:44 | T0mas | yeah, no sound output either |
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| 21:19:47 | T0mas | how does that timerinterrupt work? is it settable? or just one interrupt per clockcycle? |
| 21:20:20 | preglow | rasher: is it done already"#% |
| 21:20:30 | rasher | no.. |
| 21:20:38 | preglow | i'm starting to doubt the misreading theory |
| 21:20:51 | preglow | the samples that stick out follow the level too closely |
| 21:20:51 | HCl | misreading? |
| 21:20:51 | rasher | going down now |
| 21:20:57 | rasher | B8 |
| 21:21:07 | rasher | C2 now :-\ |
| 21:21:09 | preglow | b8? |
| 21:21:17 | preglow | it shouldn't ever reach b8 |
| 21:21:17 | preglow | heh |
| 21:21:37 | rasher | it did in the last test as well |
| 21:21:51 | preglow | queer, linux said the range was from c0-ff |
| 21:21:55 | preglow | linuS |
| 21:22:08 | preglow | my fingers do their own type of autocompletion, blast them |
| 21:22:15 | rasher | well someone is lying then |
| 21:22:32 | rasher | docs, iriver, linus.. no idea |
| 21:22:48 | T0mas | lol, I too keep on typing Linux in stead of Linus... |
| 21:22:50 | preglow | linus is lying, clearly |
| 21:22:55 | preglow | he's trying to thwart your efforts |
| 21:23:06 | rasher | *sniff* |
| 21:23:24 | preglow | i'll go wash some dishes |
| 21:23:26 | rasher | "5 movie channels - one for each taste" .. uhm.. |
| 21:23:39 | rasher | (some ad here) |
| 21:24:05 | rasher | reminds me of the Blues Brothers.. "we've got both kinds of music.. Country AND Western" |
| 21:24:41 | rasher | B6 now |
| 21:24:42 | rasher | B4 |
| 21:24:45 | rasher | B3 |
| 21:24:49 | rasher | DIE ALREADY! |
| 21:25:18 | rasher | B1.. |
| 21:25:51 | rasher | I should try saving measurement at each screen update |
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| 21:28:37 | rasher | 9a now.. |
| 21:28:49 | rasher | it certainly isn't c0-ff |
| 21:29:13 | rasher | there it went |
| 21:35:43 | preglow | graph? |
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| 21:42:28 | Chamois | i make a test few days ago that i give to linus |
| 21:42:29 | Chamois | http://chamois94.free.fr/Battery.txt |
| 21:42:33 | Chamois | for the batery |
| 21:42:52 | Chamois | i think it's why he says C0 |
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| 21:45:20 | Chamois | i think it depends battery |
| 21:45:26 | Chamois | mine is like died |
| 21:45:42 | preglow | yes, obviously |
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| 21:51:47 | tvelocity | hm... what about porting apache to rockbox? |
| 21:51:50 | tvelocity | :P |
| 21:52:23 | rasher | you'd need some way to talk to the outside world |
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| 21:53:04 | tvelocity | through USB? |
| 21:53:23 | rasher | won't work on iriver |
| 21:53:40 | tvelocity | too bad |
| 21:53:41 | tvelocity | :/ |
| 21:55:06 | preglow | there's not feasible ways of achieving that that i can think of, tvelocity |
| 21:55:07 | rasher | the usb happens outside the os's control |
| 21:55:31 | preglow | every communication channel besides usb would be too slow for it to be practical |
| 21:55:43 | rasher | who said anything about practical? |
| 21:56:04 | tvelocity | yeah :) |
| 21:56:19 | preglow | haha, well, then you can communicate across the serial port |
| 21:56:27 | preglow | the remote spi channel could be used as well |
| 21:56:40 | preglow | and let's not forget optical in/out |
| 21:57:07 | rasher | flash the lcd to morse, recieved by a webcam |
| 21:57:22 | preglow | flash hdd led as well, two bit morse |
| 21:57:30 | tvelocity | hm |
| 21:57:40 | tvelocity | what about running folding@home on it?:P |
| 21:57:44 | preglow | or better yet, make the webcam decipher the lcd contents, you can fit a lot of bits on it |
| 21:59:23 | preglow | but yo, rasher, plotting the data yet? :PP |
| 21:59:24 | preglow | *nag* |
| 21:59:36 | rasher | right.. I have it.. let me upload |
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| 22:09:09 | rasher | ooops |
| 22:11:06 | preglow | hmm |
| 22:11:14 | rasher | there |
| 22:11:16 | preglow | there are still a couple of glitches |
| 22:11:41 | rasher | yes |
| 22:12:58 | rasher | Maybe I should write status more often |
| 22:13:13 | rasher | right now I'm only writing each time the buffer's empty |
| 22:13:38 | preglow | *shrug* |
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| 22:16:05 | Dicko | Woo Hoo, I just managed to build my first iriver firmware! |
| 22:16:13 | HCl | grats |
| 22:18:06 | Dicko | Couple of probs with the dailybuild.zip. missing global.h in ../apps/codecs/libFLAC/include/ |
| 22:19:17 | Dicko | and ../apps/plugins/snake2.levels which stops make zip... |
| 22:20:24 | Dicko | Where do I get the rockboy sources from? |
| 22:21:43 | rasher | rockboy's in cvs |
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| 22:26:55 | Dicko | I'm not very familliar with cvs, what would the command be to extract the rockboy source? |
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| 22:27:20 | rasher | well if you have built it you should have it already |
| 22:27:24 | rasher | apps/plugins/rockboy |
| 22:27:37 | preglow | i think he's compiling from a zip |
| 22:27:56 | preglow | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS |
| 22:28:09 | rasher | don't they have what cvs have? |
| 22:28:22 | preglow | well, apparently not |
| 22:28:27 | preglow | i dunno |
| 22:28:30 | preglow | never used them |
| 22:28:47 | Dicko | rockboy doesn't seem to be in the daily build zip |
| 22:29:21 | Dicko | what do i need to extract from cvs to get it? rockbox or rockbox-devel? |
| 22:30:00 | preglow | rockbox has it |
| 22:31:15 | Bagder | it should be in the daily tarball |
| 22:33:17 | Bagder | me fix |
| 22:33:30 | * | tvelocity np Global Underground 027 Mixed by Danny Howells |
| 22:33:43 | preglow | Bagder: there was some whispering about missing global.h in libFLAC as well |
| 22:34:15 | Bagder | I'll fix that too |
| 22:36:58 | Dicko | Don't forget snake2.levels too ;-) |
| 22:36:58 | Bagder | done |
| 22:37:53 | Bagder | done that too now |
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