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#rockbox log for 2005-03-22

00:00:08t0masso maybe you can tell me how I link the bmp things to wps-display.c ?
00:00:24t0masi have the include..
00:00:31t0masbut I must change some makefile?
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00:05:10HClmy mind isn't really set at coing
00:05:17*HCl slaps his d
00:05:35HCli need to be able to answer questions like this for a test in 3 weeks
00:05:41HCland if i don't pass it i get kicked off university
00:07:32t0masoh ow
00:08:00t0masfollow a quick run statistics?
00:09:06*t0mas is going to sleep now
00:09:08t0masc ya tomorrow
00:09:13 Nick t0mas is now known as t0mas|zzz (
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00:21:05HCli found the answer in swedish.
00:21:08HClon the internet
00:21:15HCljust gotta check what i did wrong..
00:21:20HCli actually had a big part of it right
00:21:23HClwhich is a good thing.
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00:25:59HCli had it right in the first place O.o
00:26:02bippymmmm bacon
00:26:03HCli just had a minor error...
00:26:09*HCl is glad he got it right...
00:26:16HClnow i can sleep peacefully.
00:26:20*bippy pats HCI on the back
00:26:26HClthanks :3
00:26:31bippylol np
00:26:54HClnow to write up a whole reasoning to why this was the right answer
00:26:58HClso i won't forget in 3 weeks time
00:27:01HClwhen i actually have my test
00:27:03bippySo, hows mister iriver coming along, slowly and smoothly ?
00:27:55HCli'm kind of waiting for xshock
00:28:01HCli gave him an alpha rockboy sound driver
00:28:05HCland he said he got it to work
00:29:01bippyI only care about if it plays MP3 files to be honest
00:29:38HClall my work on rockboy gone to waste
00:29:47HCli'm just bored
00:29:49bippyIll re- phrase my question, hows the codec intergration coming along
00:29:52HCland then i code semi-useless junk
00:29:54HCllike rockboy
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00:30:22tvelocityrockboy useless?
00:30:32tvelocityno way!
00:30:42tvelocityi use it all the time :D
00:30:45bippyIm sure lots of people will like rockboy, ill like rockboy, just Codec intergration seems more important since it is an MP3 player...
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00:32:32bippySo, what kinda games will we see on rockboy ?
00:33:05tvelocitygameboy games i assume:P
00:33:35bippyNot Half life 2 then ? :P
00:37:13tvelocitydoes rockboy have grayscale now?
00:37:27tvelocityor am i asking for way too much?:P
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00:39:13bippyway to much
00:40:23bippyohhhh happy days (8)
00:41:28bippyAnyway im of now, give my love to rasher and tell him yellowstone is still purring.
00:41:32*bippy waves
00:41:50*bippy is not gay just for the record
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00:45:02CoCoLUSlike we care
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00:48:35HClt0mas|zzz: oh, by the way, if you're interested at all, the answer was: 11!/(2!)^3 - 6*9!/(2!)^2 + 6*7!/2!
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00:54:04XShocKdoes rockboy gives 8-bit stereo?
00:54:09XShocKit seems it does
00:56:51HCljust the person i wanted to talk to :3
00:57:01HClyea, i was just talking to linus about it
00:57:06HClwe need a way to set the pcm format
00:57:11HClcause rockboy uses 11025 hz
00:57:17HCland i don't think we can change that
00:57:24HCloh, it outputs 8bit too?
00:57:32HClneither me nor linus have been able to get it to work yet.
00:57:38HCllet me see if there's a way to make it do 16 bi
00:57:59HClnop :/
00:59:04XShocKok. i convert it to 16-bit, part of it
01:01:03HClprobably easier if we could set the dac to 11025 hz 8 bit
01:01:03HCl: lags
01:02:18XShocKok. i will do it. :)
01:11:33XShocKwe have 44100,22050,11025,8000
01:11:48XShocKtechnically, wil we need any other frequency
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01:22:51HCli dunno, i don't think so.
01:22:57HClrockboy does 11025
01:23:08HClthe pcm api just needs to get extended with a function
01:23:23HClthat can set the sampling rate and the bits and stereo or mono
01:23:53HClchoosing between what you just mentioned, 8 or 16 ( can we do 24?) and 1/0
01:23:58XShocKi do it like that, in plugin.h a function pcm_set_format(pcm_format format);
01:24:16HClwell, it probably should be in pcm_playback.h ?
01:24:21HClbut sounds nice.
01:24:26XShocKyes, it is there.
01:24:29HCldo you have cvs access?
01:24:45XShocKi mean it will also be in plugin.h so that rockboy can access it.
01:24:53XShocKno. i don't have an access
01:25:14HClkay, well, if you're able to send me a fairly clean patch, i can take a look at it, and if it looks ok, i can commit it for you
01:26:10XShocKi am working on it
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01:31:49*HCl slaps himself and just had one of the worst ideas ever.
01:31:57HClddr for iriver..
01:32:20HClthe sad part is, i would probably play it too, if it would work on my iriver....
01:32:32HClmaybe i really should make an iriver ddr ;/
01:33:44HCldance dance revolution..
01:34:04HClwhere you have like arrows you need to press to the beat of a song
01:34:25HClits actually quite fun..
01:34:51HCli would probably play it if i was bored and listening to music on my iriver..
01:35:15*HCl goes to play ddr..
01:48:16XShocKcorrect if i am wrong, i can only feed 16-bit data to DAC and to PDOR
01:48:38XShocKso in order to use 8-bit i need to manually change it to 16-bit and feed it
01:49:38HClits probably easier if i'd just alter sound.c then
01:49:44HCland make it 16 bit in the first place
01:49:47XShocKif so, then there is only a need to make a function like pcm_set_freq
01:50:07HClhow do you convert 8 bit to 16?
01:50:15HCladd 0's ? or what?
01:50:56XShocKno, just short_array[counter] = char_array[counter] for all items.
01:51:02*HCl was forced to drink coke cause he played ddr, will be awake for a while now :/
01:51:08HClyea, thats adding extra zeros :P
01:51:33HClshouldn't be much trouble to fix that in rockboy's sound.c
01:51:34XShocKmmm. yea. :))
01:52:37HCl*stares at a night butterfly and wonders wth its trying to do*
01:53:00HClit almost looks as if its trying to mate with my pencils >.<;
01:53:21*HCl goes to catch and release outside..
02:04:52XShocKhehe.. changing to 16-bit in sound.c is just a matter of changing two lines. good.
02:06:31HCl :)
02:06:58HClyou might have to explicitly set the 0's, dunno your implementation, anyways, remember that pcm.buf is far from clean at the start..
02:07:43XShocKdoes it really matter? i mean palying of sound will start when buffer is already filled.
02:08:04XShocKsince pcm_submit is called only when whole buffer is full
02:08:23HClits not.
02:08:27HClits called every emulation cycle too.
02:08:44HClits only called when the buffer is full as a safety precaution
02:08:49HClto prevent overflows.
02:09:07XShocKaaah yep. i forgot that it is called in two places.
02:09:25XShocKby the way 8-bit sound was actually the main issue why rockboy hanged when you first did it.
02:09:46XShocKsize of data was not a multiple of 4 as it should be
02:09:50HCli wasn't aware that it was 8 bit at the time...
02:10:01HClshouldn't 16 bit make it a multiple of 2?
02:10:11XShocKyep, but it is stereo, so 4.
02:10:36*HCl lays down with his hellsing book
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02:14:50XShocKactually no. on pcm_submit if the buffer is not filled yet, it would just give a right amount of bytes already prepared in pcm.pos, so no need to clean buffer in the begining
02:17:47HCli'm just saying with the adding of the 0's..
02:18:06HClthat you should actually write zero's, rather than taking position steps with two rather than 1
02:18:09HClnevermind X:
02:20:13XShocKi changed type of "buf " in struct "pcm" from "byte*" to "short*", and in sound.c changed "pcm.buf[...] = (r) + 128;" and left channel too to "pcm.buf[..] = (r << 8) + 0x8000;"
02:21:05XShocKi think these are all required changes that actually need to be done.
02:22:19XShocK* crossing fingers and hopes that it will build fine
02:34:21XShocKone question that really bothers me.. what is this hissing sound that appears when i run rockbox the seocnd time?
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02:46:48HClyea, should work..
02:46:53HCli don't know, haven't heard it
02:48:20XShocKwhen you shut rockbox and run again there is a hissing sound.
02:48:30XShocKit shows up time to time...
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03:18:13XShocKi guess (right_chanell << 8) + 0x8000 is not correct translation to 16-bits.
03:18:35XShocKthen it should be right_channel * 256 , but ut us also sounds crappy
03:19:47HClshouldn't you just shift by 8 left?
03:21:53XShocKmmm. maybe
03:22:58XShocK00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F
03:22:58XShocK00 0F 00 0F 00 0F 00 0F 00 0F 00 0F 00 0F 00 0F
03:23:13XShocKit is a dump of sound data... something is wrong here..
03:23:23HCl :/
03:23:31XShocKi suspect i shift data somewhere
03:23:48XShocK00 0F 00 0F 00 0F 00 0F 00 0F 00 01 00 01 00 01
03:23:48XShocK00 01 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 03 00 05 00 05 00 05
03:23:48XShocK00 05 00 07 00 07 00 F7 00 F7 00 FA 00 FA 00 FC
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03:23:48XShocK00 FC 00 FC 00 FC 00 FE 00 FE 00 FE 00 FE 00 00
03:24:35XShocKhere should probably be some kind of alteration between negative and positive number... but i don't have any ideas where are those
03:26:02HClaudio is signed?
03:26:37XShocKit should normally be just a normal "short int" singed
03:26:50HClyou probably need to sign extend it in that case
03:27:07HClpcm.buf[blah] = (signed char) (stuff here)
03:32:51XShocKi don't get it
03:33:53XShocKsounds bad. :)
03:34:01HCl :/
03:34:04HClin what way?
03:34:18HClmoving the spinlock to the front of the function might help
03:34:43HClhm, nm
03:34:44XShocKshhh... :)
03:34:49HClit wouldn't.
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03:34:53*HCl shushes.
03:34:59HClthe sound... of silence... o/'
03:36:34XShocKooh. i will do everything tomorrow.
03:36:41XShocKi will go to sleep
03:37:56underlordiriver wouldnt be able to have a clock would it?
03:38:14HClas a realtime clock, no.
03:38:41*underlord grabs some superglue, a h140, and a watch.
03:38:51*HCl goes to sleep
03:44:35underlordwith the iriver official firmware the fm tuner supports usa/japan/korea/europe, and just to be different i had to go life in australia, the reception goes to hell if i turn stereo on, might this be fixable (or fixed?) in rockbox?
03:45:57XShocKi am sure it can if it is the issue of different frequency mappings in australia, if it is just a weak signal then no
03:46:33underlordits not weak signal
03:47:16underlordi think the "sub bands" are different here, mono works well which ofcource doesnt use any sub bands (sorry if sub bands isnt right word)
03:47:55XShocKthen yes, it most probably can be fixed
03:49:19XShocKby the way did you try EU and US versions of firmware?
03:49:39XShocKthey differ in the way of frequencies
03:50:18underlordreading it occurs to me that an ir reciever might be as simple as a suitable ir light sensor (whats the name of those things...) hooked in to ext. mic, provided the cpu has enough space cpu cycled, then programmed to watch for some remove that you have laying around
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03:50:28underlordi only tried us
03:50:39HCli think an ir transmitter would be more usable
03:50:59underlordwhat you gona use a transmitter for?
03:51:08HClto control my computer.
03:51:09HClbut tehn
03:51:14XShocKphotoresistor or photodiod
03:51:15HCli already have a remote control for my computer.
03:51:21HClso using my iriver for it would be a bit pointless
03:51:33HCli'm asleep.
03:51:47underlordyour sleep-hacking :P
03:51:49XShocKunderlord: try EU version
03:51:50*HCl closes his eyes and goes afk
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03:56:08underlordGah! bill gates... hes holding a h10 on the eu site, irivers making deals with the devil O_o
03:57:38*underlord hugs linux
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06:33:00DJ_Dooms_DayCan someone please fill me in on these .wps files?
06:33:13DJ_Dooms_DayWhat do they do?
06:33:16DJ_Dooms_DayHow do they work?
06:34:22DJ_Dooms_DayNever mind
06:34:50rasherfound the wiki page?
06:34:52DJ_Dooms_Dayheh, found doco of it
06:35:36DJ_Dooms_DayHey, i see how it works, but how does each thing you call get aligned on the screen? I see no co-ords for each thing
06:36:28rasherI think it's line-based
06:36:38DJ_Dooms_DayYeah, looks like it
06:38:33DJ_Dooms_DaySo how would one say, put the artist name (%ia) in the middle of a line?
06:39:33rasherI.. don't know..
06:39:52rasherhaven't bothered with it since it's not an issue yet on the iriver
06:40:23DJ_Dooms_DayWhat do you mean?
06:40:47rasherThat it isn't used on the iriver since it can't play anything
06:41:32DJ_Dooms_Daylol, not yet
06:44:49DJ_Dooms_DayWhere would i find this .wps file to edit in the devkit?
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06:45:54rasherit's possibly using a default layout
06:46:03rasherI think you just load .wps files
06:46:14DJ_Dooms_DayLike plugins?
06:46:21rasherpretty much
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07:26:36Rickgreetings humanoids
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07:43:09Rickhey DJ_Dooms_Day, you there?
07:43:34DJ_Dooms_DayThat i am
07:43:59RickI recall you had troubles with bmp2rb right?
07:44:22DJ_Dooms_DayYeah, i fixed it though.
07:44:31DJ_Dooms_DayBut it seems to invert the colors for some reason
07:44:34RickI was wondering what bmp format it needs to be in
07:44:36DJ_Dooms_DayNot a big thing though
07:44:46DJ_Dooms_DayHave you read my wiki?
07:47:42Ricki got a full black bitmap with 8bit
07:47:49Rickdecrasing to 2bit gets me a more proper result
07:48:32Ricklooks like it's upside down too
07:48:36Ricklooks correct
07:48:53DJ_Dooms_DayWhat do you mean? You don't get to choose how many bits you use in PS.
07:49:00RickI am using PSP
07:49:51DJ_Dooms_DayWell yeah, 2-bit is all thats supported right now
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07:50:03DJ_Dooms_DayI have no idea why its upside down
07:50:11Rickthe upside down is a good thing
07:50:13DJ_Dooms_DayMy image colors get inverted
07:50:22Rickit barfed on my second bmp
07:50:34DJ_Dooms_DayIts probably jsut the way bmp2rb does the converion
07:50:57Rickbmp2rb dumps it to the raw data that is stored in the pixel buffer
07:50:57DJ_Dooms_DayLike how?
07:51:22DJ_Dooms_Dayand converts it to RB, what ever that is
07:51:28Rick'raw bitmap' probably
07:51:33Rickor 'raw bytes'
07:51:39Rickerror - Bitmap is too wide for iRiver models (1176528231 pixels, max is 160)
07:51:56DJ_Dooms_Daythats a lot of fuckin pixels
07:52:08Rickah, I saved it in the wrong format
07:52:47DJ_Dooms_DayIf you want, you could update my wiki with how you do it in PSP
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08:28:49t0mas|zzzDJ_Dooms_Day, Rick: there is a usefull call in bmp.h
08:28:51t0mas|zzzint read_bmp_file(char* filename,
08:28:51t0mas|zzz int *get_width, /* in pixels */
08:28:51t0mas|zzz int *get_height, /* in pixels */
08:28:51DBUGEnqueued KICK t0mas|zzz
08:28:51t0mas|zzz char *bitmap);
08:29:31t0mas|zzzit read's a normal bmp file into rockbox...
08:29:53t0mas|zzz<DJ_Dooms_Day> Well yeah, 2-bit is all thats supported right now <−− and that's not yet supported...
08:30:13t0mas|zzzafaik is't just true black and white... (wich is 1 bit/pixel)
08:30:54DJ_Dooms_DayHey check the thread tom
08:30:54CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
08:30:54*t0mas|zzz copy/pasted his images in mspaint... set to black and white... and then converted em :) works great
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08:33:58DBUGEnqueued KICK t0mas|work
08:34:02t0mas|workand it's now time to work
08:41:22Rickfor some reason my plugin isn't working
08:44:37DJ_Dooms_Daywhats the plugin?
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08:47:21Rickgame I pored
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08:47:31*Rick kicks keyboard
08:47:41Rickit is working... just menu isn't
08:47:42Rickfor whatever reason
08:47:44t0mas|workif you can't get out of it...
08:47:58t0mas|workI'm back in 6 hours ;) email me..
08:48:33RickI can get out of it
08:48:41Rickjust have to randomly select a menu option without being able to see it
08:49:07Ricknow I know why
08:49:10RickI was using the wrong func
08:49:21amiconnt0mas|work: The code in bmp.h is way outdated and won't work with current rockbox' internal bitmap format any more
08:56:58Rickmy port is almost done
08:57:59DJ_Dooms_DayWhat game rick?
08:58:01Rickjust need to clean up button handling
08:58:13Rickand some display issues
08:58:57DJ_Dooms_DayHows it play in black and white?
08:59:14Rickjust fine
08:59:22DJ_Dooms_DayWHAT is it?
08:59:40DJ_Dooms_Day...never heard of it
09:00:02Ricklemme find the original desc
09:00:40RickThis is my implementation of the classic Thesues and the minotaur puzzle where Theseus (the character you play) has to get to the exit without getting eaten by the minotaur, which is AI and moves two squares for every one of yours. however, the ai follows strict rules. It will always first take a move horizontally to be on the same column as you, then move vertically to be on same row with you. Be warned: if the minotaur cant take take a horizontal move (blocked by a
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09:02:50rasher excellent
09:04:40Rickif anyone can find a nifty minotaur image that would work well in 2bpp, would be nice ;)
09:11:51rasher :)
09:12:11Rickthat rocks
09:13:26Rickthat's excellent
09:13:27Rickthanks rasher
09:20:18rasherwhat are the 2-bit colours again?
09:21:25RickYour set, simply stick to using the following supported colors:
09:21:25DBUGEnqueued KICK Rick
09:21:25RickThe following color are ment to be the colors that will be supported once 4-bit greyscale completely works.
09:21:25Rick#6E6E6E << Doesn't work yet
09:21:26***Alert Mode level 1
09:21:26Rick#DCDCDC << Doesn't work yet
09:21:28Rickfrom DJ_Dooms_Day's page
09:21:29DJ_Dooms_Dayblack and white man
09:22:00DJ_Dooms_Daythe other 2 colors don't work yet as greyscale hasn't been put in yet
09:22:05rasheryeah, just found them :)
09:22:17DJ_Dooms_Dayalthough there IS a patch that gives you greyscale
09:22:26DJ_Dooms_Daybut i tryed it and it fucked everything up
09:22:32DJ_Dooms_Dayits not complete yet
09:22:49rasherI know this, just trying to convert an image I have here to the format
09:23:08DJ_Dooms_Day[5:45pm] <DJ_Dooms_Day>
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09:25:14*rasher punches psp
09:25:20rasherdither correctly you fool!
09:28:10DJ_Dooms_Daypsh, use PS
09:28:12rasherMaybe I should try with gimp
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10:21:19rasherexcellent :)
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10:21:42rashernow make it screen-size agnostic :)
10:22:28rasherThe LCD_WIDTH and LCD_HEIGHT defines should be helpful
10:23:02RickI used that to center the minotaur image
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10:23:05Rickand align it to the right
10:23:05Rickrb->lcd_bitmap(logo, LCD_WIDTH - 98, (LCD_HEIGHT / 2) - (128 / 2), 98, 128, true);
10:23:43Rickmenu is centered too
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10:32:27DJ_Dooms_DayNice job Rick!
10:32:45Rickit wasn't that hard to port
10:33:21RickI've been looking through archives of ti games, it's a good source to port games from
10:33:33rasherhow's that for licensing?
10:33:40Rickhow do you mean?
10:33:47rasherwhat is the license of the original?
10:33:56Rickno license specified
10:34:01DJ_Dooms_Dayti games, their calc games arn't they?
10:34:04RickDJ_Dooms_Day: yes
10:34:15rasherno license specified is problematic
10:34:20Rickrasher: I would assume public domain or creditware
10:34:35Rickfrom minotaur readme
10:34:36RickSource Code
10:34:36Rickfeel free to edit and use but please give me credit :)
10:34:36DBUGEnqueued KICK Rick
10:34:50DJ_Dooms_Dayrasher their made by dudes just like rick
10:34:55rasherthat's pretty vague :-\
10:35:01RickI don't forsee it as a problem
10:35:18DJ_Dooms_Dayand i wouldn't give a flying fuck WHO it belonged to anyway :P
10:35:20rasherDJ_Dooms_Day: yeah but we're going to include it in GPL crap
10:35:38Rickit's not that hard to contact the original author
10:35:45Rickof software
10:35:52rasherDJ_Dooms_Day: The license of Rockbox
10:36:45Ricka big lot are coded in c rather than assembly, which is nifty
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10:37:40rasherDJ_Dooms_Day: basically, to avoid (potential) legal problems, we need to be able to re-distribute the source under the GPL
10:38:08DJ_Dooms_DayThats fair enough
10:38:12Rickwhat's hard about putting a different license in the header of the file?
10:38:31rasherWell if the original license doesn't allow that
10:38:37ashridahrick: the only ones who can do that is the original copyright holder
10:38:45rasherthe project would be in a world of problems
10:39:00rasherashridah: depends on the original license actually :)
10:39:02ashridahassuming that it's not explicitly public domain.
10:39:06Rickashridah: no no, I mean putting the license that was specified
10:39:30rasherRick: imagine the license says "This code may not be combined with other software"
10:39:32ashridahRick: ah, well then you've got conflicts with pure GPL code that has restrictions on what can be hidden from users
10:39:58rasheror something less restrictive that conflicts with the gpl
10:40:22DJ_Dooms_DayAnyone know whos working on the greyscale code?
10:40:29Ricka plugin and rockbox are two different things though
10:40:36Rickso I don't see a problem with that kind of interaction, rasher
10:40:37rasherDJ_Dooms_Day: a guy with ircnick 'markun'
10:40:58rasherThey're most likely not different in that sense
10:41:13DJ_Dooms_DayRasher, do you know if he is actively working on it?
10:41:14rashersince they're compiled against rockbox source
10:41:16ashridahrick: as a matter of fact, how the program loads the code is very much a problem with GPL. see non-gpl'ed kernel modules, for example
10:41:21rasherDJ_Dooms_Day: I think so
10:41:32Rickrockbox plugins arn't statically linked against rockbox
10:41:40Rickfrom what I see anyway
10:42:06ashridahrick: so? neither are kernel modules. that's not the problem.
10:43:52rasherprobably not a problem here, I say fire an email at the original author asking if we may release it as gpl
10:43:56rasherthat should be enough
10:44:13Rickprobably have to explain what GPL is, ;P
10:44:15ashridahrasher: that's the easiest solution, more or less
10:44:48rasherinstead of trying to guess what "feel free do edit and use but please give me credit :)" means
10:45:12rasherit doesn't actually mention redistributing, so
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10:45:33rasherit's probably too vague to be strictly legal to redistribute as gpl
10:45:37Rickwhat would be the point of giving credit if you couldn't redistribute?
10:45:50RickLet's hope still exists. :P
10:45:52rasherthat's probably what he meant, yes
10:46:04rasheroh dear yes
10:47:36RickMeh, GPL annoys me :P
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10:48:29rasherit's a good choice for many situations
10:48:47rasherjust causes many problems
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10:52:55rasherI think it still exists
10:52:59rashergoogled a bit
10:53:08rasherand he's at least using that alias on various message-boards
10:53:19rashermaybe try reaching him through aim is also him
10:54:31rashergoogle scares me
10:54:42Rickcan't find me ;)
10:54:48Rickwell, you could with my webby addy ;P
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10:55:10DJ_Dooms_Dayyou can certainly find me, im actually pretty well known in google :P
10:55:43rasherfinding me is fairly straight-forward
10:56:24rasherboth by real name and alias
10:56:49Rickyour real name must be unique
10:57:03rasherit totally is
10:57:41rasherfirst page has 2 results which isn't me
10:58:14rasherapparently some Swede has my name
10:58:42DJ_Dooms_Daykicked my ass
10:58:54RickI probably kick both of yours
10:59:16DJ_Dooms_DayYeah but how much is actually YOU
10:59:38rasherwell, rasher is an english word so
10:59:40DJ_Dooms_Daythe first page of me is all me
11:00:07DJ_Dooms_Day...and the second page
11:00:32DJ_Dooms_DayYep, EVERY single page is me :)
11:01:19RickI need to do something with
11:01:57rasherthis is most excellent
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11:02:02Rickwhat is?
11:02:25rasherthe current state of it
11:02:47rasheralthough invalide
11:03:00rasherI'm being stupid
11:03:03*Rick isn't following you
11:03:09rasherjust ignore me.
11:03:16Rickbrain fart?
11:04:13*Rick registered it out of boredom one night :<
11:04:41rasherboredom is dangerous
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11:17:51DJ_Dooms_DayAnyone here good at modding games?
11:18:04DJ_Dooms_DayOr would like to?
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11:20:58Zagoranyone care to whack the xchat authors over the head? the buggers removed support for bitmap fonts. for some things you DON'T WANT antialiased fonts :-(
11:22:04ashridahyou live!
11:22:06*DJ_Dooms_Day whacks a random xchat author over the head with a giant UNanti-aliased font
11:22:10Zagorbarely :)
11:22:37DJ_Dooms_Day...whats xchat?
11:22:51Zagorx11 irc client
11:23:23ashridahthere's also a win32 version, and a macosX port
11:23:48Zagoryeah, i used the win32 version when I was tied to a winnt machine at work
11:24:26ashridahalthough there's been some entertaining hoops jumped about the win32 version and it going 'pay-for' nagware. to which a whole bunch of people responded by leeching the source (since it's GPL) and recompiling it :)
11:25:30Zagoryeah, i keep some old binaries too
11:25:32ashridahi rather suspect he could have automated a large chunk of his problems
11:25:57Zagorautomating windows is not easy
11:26:21Zagorwe only get away with it by running wine on linux :)
11:26:40ashridahtrue. there are ways tho. doesn't xchat-win32 still use cygwin? or do they compile it under or something now?
11:26:55Zagorno idea
11:28:39*amiconn did test xchat on windows some time ago
11:28:52amiconnDidn't like it at all - ugly and crash prone
11:29:19ashridahi found it less irritating than most win32 irc clients i've tried. i tend to avoid windows at the best of times tho. it's often easier to just use putty, screen and epic :)
11:32:18rasherZagor: tell your font renderer not to alias those fonts
11:33:29Zagorthe problem is I can't even select the font I want, since the font dialog only allows me to choose TTF fonts. and I don't want to turn off aa of these fonts globally. i like to have it enabled in web browsers, for instance.
11:33:51rasheryou can do it pretty fine-grained
11:34:01rasherlike "monotype fonts between 5-10 pts
11:34:47Zagoryeah, but it doesn't really solve my problem which is that I don't want a TTF font at all. I want "fixed". it's the only good monospace font for text imho.
11:35:18rasherUse another client :)
11:35:19Zagori guess I should make a TTF font of it for the size I like.
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11:54:56mrelwoodam i correct to notice that iriver progress has slowd down? problems?
11:55:20ashridahmrelwood: yeah. go solve the problem known as 'real life' and we'll be golden
11:55:21preglowrasher: hi'
11:56:24mrelwoodashridah, ;) i understand. I was just worried if you guys hit a brick wall with something.
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11:56:50ashridahso far as i know the only brick wall is time V complexity. optimising isn't a simple process.
11:57:14preglowno brick wall, everything is in control
11:57:15ashridahbut things are getting there
11:57:23preglowbut time is lacking
11:58:10ashridahmrelwood: since rockbox previously never actually had audio decoding, there's lots of work to do to actually provide a player that loads, decodes, buffers and plays sound
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12:02:56mrelwoodok. so just patience and we'll get there some day. thanks to everybody working on this, and good luck!
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12:52:23ashridahhmm. might leave my pc running tonight performing this dist-upgrade
12:58:24HCl X:
13:02:21ashridahhrm. going to make this room a bit toasty tho
13:21:00HClyou can just make it resume, can't you?
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13:29:08ashridahHCl: yeah
13:29:23ashridahHCl: i just don't have much time before another tv episode comes out and i need to start hitting up bittorrent again :)
13:36:00kurzhaarrockerbtw: what happened to the plan to release rockbox regularily every 2 months?
13:36:59rasherI'm guessing the iriver+gmini ports are messing things up in a way that puts rockbox in a non-releaseable state
13:37:17rasheror.. well
13:37:48rasherI guess there'd be no problem in releasing the current code for the jukebox/recorder devices
13:37:52rasherand ondio
13:37:58rasherso.. *Shrug*
13:38:12ashridahyeah, i think they've kinda fallen behind on the actual 'adding features' side of things while iriver/gmini's devel continues
13:38:38rasherThat's more likely to be it I guess
13:38:41kurzhaarrockerProbably those people who release things have more fun hacking new devices :)
13:38:43rashernot much has happened I think
13:39:00rasherlittle point in releasing
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13:40:13amiconnQuite a number of improvements happened since the 2.4 release...
13:40:23kurzhaarrockerdb browser ...
13:41:28amiconnPlayer graphics, multivolume and hotswap for Ondio...
13:41:48kurzhaarrockerPlayer graphics? With those 8 definable characters?
13:42:10ashridahplayer graphics?
13:42:31amiconnI ported the snow, mosaique, cube snow, and logo plugins
13:42:48amiconnSo much snow.. ;)
13:43:11kurzhaarrockerWhy didn't you port the viedeo plugin? :)
13:43:57amiconnVideo with 20x14 pixels?
13:45:26amiconnkurzhaarrocker: If you have no player, you can try this in a simulator. The sims are somewhat slower than the real target though
13:45:27kurzhaarrockerI admit you wouldn't recognize much with that resolution but that reason didn't prevent the 112 x 64 video either.
13:46:05*kurzhaarrocker tries
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13:53:18kurzhaarrockerAre up/down <-> left/right swapped in the player simulator?
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13:56:26*kurzhaarrocker sees the simulator snow
13:56:41amiconnkurzhaarrocker: No; the player has no up/down
13:57:24kurzhaarrockerI simply am confused because I am used to the controls of the recorder.
13:59:26kurzhaarrockerDoes the micronas chip of the player support a peak meter?
14:00:25ashridahanyway, time to crash. night
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14:05:08amiconnkurzhaarrocker: No.
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15:35:28Lynx_OT: does anyone know a plugin/player that allows you just to play a few seconds of the songs in the playlist, peferably from the middle of the mp3?
15:47:55CoCoLUStheres an oggpreview plugin for foobar... it takes x seconds of every selected track and then creates a faded mix of those samples
15:52:03Lynx_does that only work for ogg?
15:53:35CoCoLUSno it works for every type but the resulting file is ogg
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16:45:13Lynx_[IDC]Dragon: how that?
16:45:43[IDC]Dragonclip a middle part of your music file into
16:46:15[IDC]Dragonit doesn't have to be voice...
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16:53:52kurzhaarrockerHm. Slightly changed that could be a useful feature for the browser. Imagine something like an acustic tooltip. When you rest the cursor on a mp3 file for > 1sec it tries to playback an excerpt of it.
16:55:20Lynx_i was more looking for a way to clip many middle parts of files into one, that is the hard part
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17:15:58t0masI think our syntax idea isn't really ideal...
17:16:16t0masbecause it would have to load the file form disk every time it refreshes the wps...
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17:17:20rasherguh, telemarketer :(
17:19:57rasherAt least regular companies aren't allowed this
17:20:35rasherOnly newspapers (for some reason) and security (like first aid, fire-protection) companies
17:20:45rasherand then of course market research companies
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17:24:04Lynx_market research is the root of all evil
17:24:48rasherI'm sortof torn about it.. because on the one hand, they're annoying as hell, but on the other hand, they tell companies who to bother and who not to bother with
17:26:43Lynx_i meant more the 'collect as much data as we can' part
17:27:07rasherlike what, I only talked with them once or twice
17:27:54rasherand it seemed fairly focused on two subjects
17:27:56*t0mas alway's ask's em to call back
17:28:13t0masand keeps saying that for a few days..
17:28:20t0masnormally they just give up :P
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19:32:03t0mashi Tang
19:33:05Tanghi Tomas
19:33:43t0masintresting conversation this way :P
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19:34:23Tangvery funny
19:34:40Tangso about sunday discussion
19:34:51*t0mas check's the log..
19:34:57Tangis it Michel who was working on the API
19:35:33t0masoh ok
19:36:24t0mashe's really busy...
19:36:30t0masnot being kicked out of university...
19:36:52*t0mas has been working on image support for the WPS
19:36:55t0mas(seen my screenshot?)
19:37:27t0masbut after that... I'm availible to help with the API..
19:38:26TangEy very cool news
19:39:58*t0mas was reading his work email...
19:40:51t0mastranslated: "I have a usbstick, and I have inserted it into my desktop... And it showsup as J:\ now I have shared it... and when I check my laptop, it isn't there."
19:40:57t0masbut that in 20 lines...
19:41:08t0maswith a lat of !!! and ???? AND UPPER CASE
19:41:36t0mashelpdesk didn't get the problem... and forwarded it to me as "Hardware problem" for the laptop not detecting it :X
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20:31:02Tanghum sorry it was "Michiel" not "Michel"
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20:33:07t0masHCl == Michiel right?
20:34:19amiconn tells me it's correct
20:36:04Tangoups i didn't noticed he was HCl
20:38:21t0masbut he is to busy
20:38:28t0masto maybe we should help him?
20:38:31t0masto = so
20:41:16Tangno skill AFAIC
20:42:04t0mastotally nothing?
20:44:11Tangi'm just a litterature student
20:44:32TangVery interested in new technolgies and informatic
20:44:43Tangbut no coding skill
20:45:00mirakin ten years the technologies will still be called like that
20:45:07Tang(the more i've done is HTML for a website)
20:45:28mirakthat's better than me
20:45:33mirakI am informatician
20:45:35Tangit's just the usual denomination:
20:45:37miraknever done a website
20:45:41mirakI hate html
20:45:52mirakthis is ugly
20:45:54Tanglol i rather HTML to flash
20:46:06Tangbut it's not a programmation language
20:46:31TangOh i used a programmation language a little bit
20:46:36mirakyes not much
20:46:42Tangwas 4D proprietary language
20:46:55Tang(a Database programm)
20:48:04rashert0mas: is a live shot?
20:48:26rasherYeah but is it running code?
20:48:31rasheror just a mock-up
20:48:32t0masyes it is
20:48:35t0masno, code
20:48:37rasherExcellent :)
20:50:22rasherThat's really cool
20:50:32rasheralthough I'll probably end up not using it :S
20:51:35rasherfor the same reasons I'm running fluxbox and using it mostly for consoles
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20:51:57rasherwhich reminds me, i should look at evilwm.
20:53:19t0masyeah, but some people wanted it...
20:53:41*t0mas think's he isn't gonna use the graphics options either..
20:53:44rasherYeah, most people would probably love it
20:53:59t0masyeah, I like some view too...
20:54:06t0masso I'm not sure...
20:54:31t0masthe way it's looking now is ok for me...
20:55:11t0masbut I don't like the overloaded interfaces some people want... full of images
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21:07:18t0masdamn... why don't they stuff these iRiver's with an AMD 64 and gig's of mem? ;)
21:07:27*t0mas has a resource problem...
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21:08:28rasherheh, what's up? trying to factor large primes?
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21:08:46Bagder <= iRiver GPL violation
21:09:43t0masrasher: no, did that a few weeks ago on a cluster...
21:09:49t0masI'm just loading images :P
21:09:54t0masbut a few 100/sec
21:10:04t0maslittle mistake somewhere :)
21:11:26t0masBagder: our syntax idea has a little problem
21:11:34BagderI read your comment
21:11:51BagderI don't see how that is strictly related to the syntax
21:12:08t0masit's related to the parsing of the syntax
21:12:25Bagderwell, you see it as a feature!
21:12:32t0masthe %ia and other's are parsed in static char* get_tag(...)
21:12:37Bagderwith the alternating lines thing, we could alter images...
21:12:45t0masyes we could...
21:12:53t0maswe could even display a video that way
21:13:01t0masbut it's gonna eat resources like hell
21:13:26Bagderso you could just remember what image you loaded last time and not load it again
21:14:17t0maswell... I was thinking of loading it when the .wps file is loaded
21:14:53t0masbut I'm not sure how to do that...
21:14:59t0mas(brb... phone)
21:16:22DeadManCruise & Spoilberg got competition :)
21:23:15HCli don't work on the api..
21:24:34Tangsorry HCl
21:24:39HClish fine
21:24:39Tangi mistook again
21:24:45TangChamois corrected me
21:25:03Tangso i echoed the correction on my board
21:25:24Tangi've to go
21:25:30Tangbye evrey one
21:26:18Tangif you see Linus would you tell him i sent him a little private message for something not cocnerning Rbx
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22:21:45*t0mas is going to bed
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22:43:47DeadManIt's a pain being technically minded. Stupid people pester you too much for free advice.
22:44:25DeadManI've wasted far too much time helping my brother setup his home cinema system
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22:57:29XShocKrockboy music works. :)
22:57:46HClcool :)
22:57:53HClcan you make a clean patch?
22:57:59rashersend to hcl so he can commit at once!
22:58:26XShocKthere are several files to patch. :)
22:58:31XShocKi will make it
23:15:55rasherOh boy, evilwm is great
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23:21:26*HCl prods XShocK
23:23:32XShocKwhile cleaning the code i messed something. :)
23:25:43HCl X:
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23:43:44XShocKthese are files that needs to be changed. not patches.
23:44:36XShocKHCl: can you build rockboy? because there is a problem. you will hear it. :)
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23:45:16HClyea.. i'm a bit busy with other stuff
23:45:25HCllet me take a look at the patch now
23:45:59XShocKhow do i make patches? i don't know, never used cvs for commiting. :)
23:46:26XShocKdiff something... i can find out, but beter ask. :)
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23:47:37XShocKok. pretty easy :)
23:51:08*HCl makes a patch out of it
23:51:23HCldiff -r -C 2 <olddir> <newdir>
23:52:36mirakwhat are the cpu freq of the H300 ?
23:55:00Bagdermirak: the same as the h1x0
23:55:09Bagder11 - 140 MHz
23:56:20mirak11 - 140 ?
23:56:25miraka range ?
23:56:36mirakwhat is 11 ? Bagder
23:57:02Bagdera range, yes
23:57:11Bagder11 is minimum
23:57:15Bagder140 maximum
23:57:24mirakdo you think it could be theoritically possible to achieve better frame rate with video playing ?
23:57:37Bagderbetter than what?
23:57:38HClXShocK: other way around
23:57:48mirakI mean it's feasible to play a divx on a 400mhz cpu. Even a powerpc
23:58:09mirakhere the size of the video is 4 times less the surface of a "normal" divx
23:58:17mirakmore than 4 times in fact
23:58:31Bagder"even" a powerpc?
23:58:40Bagdera powerpc is lots more powerful than coldfire
23:58:47mirakwell you are right I should say even on intel
23:58:55Bagderintel is too
23:59:00mirakat same freq ppc is better than intel

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