00:00:06 | mirak | with motorola 68000 |
00:00:12 | mirak | I did assembly with it |
00:00:19 | mirak | I cracked a game once |
00:00:31 | mirak | it was lotus esprit turbo challenge |
00:00:35 | Bagder | welcome back to the 80s! ;-) |
00:00:39 | mirak | in fact I just changed one byte |
00:00:41 | mirak | lol |
00:00:50 | mirak | I changed a andy operator to a move |
00:00:58 | mirak | andy was generating random numbers |
00:01:20 | mirak | and I fixed the number, so it was always the same symbol for the test |
00:01:25 | mirak | I was proud of myself |
00:01:26 | mirak | lol |
00:02:10 | mirak | Bagder: what did you reverse enginered the iriver firmware ? |
00:02:15 | mirak | -what |
00:02:22 | Bagder | we didn't |
00:02:27 | mirak | ok |
00:02:38 | mirak | what do you use as a base ? |
00:02:44 | Bagder | some minor checks have been done, but not much |
00:02:46 | Bagder | base? |
00:02:47 | mirak | I mean do you use a kernel ? |
00:02:51 | Bagder | Rockbox |
00:02:59 | | Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") |
00:03:19 | mirak | Bagder: the kernel is based on linux or started from scratch ? |
00:03:26 | Bagder | from scratch |
00:03:44 | Bagder | the archos models have 2MB ram in total |
00:03:53 | mirak | few |
00:03:57 | Bagder | rockbox is <200K for them, including everything |
00:04:17 | mirak | I don't know how much for the iriver, but I guss it's bigger, since caching seems bigger |
00:04:23 | mirak | caching of mp3 |
00:04:30 | Bagder | they have 32mb |
00:04:55 | mirak | do you think that iriver used a higher level OS than you ?* |
00:05:03 | CoCoLUS | they didn't |
00:05:07 | HCl | still looks the same, but its ok X: |
00:05:20 | mirak | CoCoLUS: what do you mean ? |
00:05:41 | Bagder | night |
00:05:42 | CoCoLUS | they didn't use linux for their h1x0 firmware |
00:05:57 | XShocK | sorry. |
00:06:05 | Rick | yo |
00:06:10 | mirak | CoCoLUS: they used something similar to rockbox ? |
00:06:28 | mirak | I am just wondering how optimised the code they use is |
00:06:39 | Rick | so disassemble it |
00:06:39 | Rick | ;p |
00:06:51 | Rick | who cares |
00:07:06 | mirak | me |
00:07:12 | Rick | why? |
00:07:19 | mirak | I wonder if 10fps is the max this machine can do |
00:07:27 | mirak | for a xvid |
00:07:37 | * | CoCoLUS wonders if linux on the h1x0 would make sense |
00:07:46 | Rick | why would you even want to play an xvid on a 2bit display? |
00:07:55 | mirak | lol |
00:08:02 | Rick | unless you're referring to the PMP or h3x0 |
00:08:03 | mirak | well the H300 |
00:08:06 | mirak | H300 |
00:08:08 | mirak | I got one |
00:08:10 | Rick | which is still: why? |
00:08:15 | mirak | I encoded movies for it |
00:08:20 | HCl | gahhh |
00:08:23 | mirak | and the result is in fact satisfying |
00:08:23 | XShocK | HCl: this patch is patching from current cvs to the time i leached it. you probably realized it.. |
00:08:27 | * | HCl gnaws on the crlf's of windows |
00:08:30 | * | Rick doesn't see the point when there are devices out there dedicated to playing such files |
00:08:43 | mirak | Rick: I don't have one |
00:08:51 | HCl | yea, i saw that it wasn't entirely up to date |
00:08:55 | mirak | actually they are bigger |
00:08:56 | rasher | HCl: dos2unix |
00:08:56 | Rick | shru |
00:08:57 | Rick | +g |
00:08:58 | rasher | :D |
00:09:00 | mirak | to big |
00:09:03 | Rick | heya rasher |
00:09:05 | Rick | what's shakin'? |
00:09:16 | HCl | E: Couldn't find package dos2unix |
00:09:19 | CoCoLUS | someone familiar with uclinux here? |
00:09:22 | mirak | I would rather buy a last generation portable computer than a PMP |
00:09:28 | rasher | HCl: sysutils |
00:09:32 | Rick | CoCoLUS: i came across it when looking for a m68k setjmp.h solution |
00:09:43 | mirak | I mean the PMP is more transportable than really portable |
00:09:50 | mirak | and surely not pocketable |
00:09:52 | CoCoLUS | does it work with the coldfire? |
00:09:57 | Rick | probably |
00:10:01 | Rick | it has m68k stuff |
00:10:19 | Rick | but I don't see the point of running linux on the iriver either |
00:10:19 | Rick | ;P |
00:10:22 | CoCoLUS | what do you think, how much work/time would be needed to get it working on the iriver? |
00:10:23 | mirak | I am interested in toying with rockbox |
00:10:29 | mirak | Rick: well that's not the question |
00:10:34 | XShocK | ok. HCL: i will make a good patch now. |
00:10:39 | mirak | I don't want to run linux |
00:10:49 | Rick | mirak: hehe |
00:11:17 | mirak | only question is is it possible to get higher frame rate ^^ |
00:11:38 | mirak | also 10fps on a so small screen is not that uncomfortable |
00:11:50 | Rick | I don't know |
00:11:51 | HCl | mm.. i already got mine applied.. |
00:11:55 | Rick | HCl: what? |
00:12:02 | HCl | talking to xshock o.o |
00:12:05 | mirak | Rick: you have never seen how it is ? |
00:12:23 | Rick | mirak: I don't have an h3x0, I have an h120 |
00:12:26 | mirak | well nevermind, I have a last question |
00:12:46 | XShocK | HC: should it be CR or LF? |
00:12:46 | mirak | I am wondering about how you test the firmware |
00:12:59 | Rick | how do you mean? |
00:13:08 | mirak | how do you test it ? |
00:13:13 | Rick | define test |
00:13:22 | mirak | hum |
00:13:32 | mirak | "define test" |
00:13:38 | mirak | are you named HAL ? |
00:13:39 | mirak | ;) |
00:13:40 | CoCoLUS | it should be CRLF on win, LF on nix :) |
00:13:42 | Rick | no |
00:13:56 | mirak | Rick: HAL is the computer in 2001 |
00:13:59 | Rick | I don't know what you mean by test, do you mean troubleshooting bugs? |
00:14:03 | Rick | or what? |
00:14:24 | Rick | I know who HAL is :P |
00:14:29 | mirak | Rick: no I mean, how often do you really test the firmware on the H100 |
00:14:41 | CoCoLUS | and if take the letters H, A and L, and add +1 in the alphabet you get |
00:14:42 | Rick | I am running it right now |
00:14:44 | CoCoLUS | IBM :P |
00:14:46 | Rick | and doing plugin development |
00:14:57 | mirak | how can you flash it back ? |
00:15:09 | Rick | simply boot the original firmware and update firmware |
00:15:40 | mirak | can you always get back the original firmware ? |
00:15:46 | mirak | I mean is in rom ? |
00:15:47 | Rick | should be able to |
00:15:49 | mirak | is it |
00:16:04 | mirak | with the reset bouton ? |
00:16:11 | HCl | XShocK: its fine, i got it |
00:16:14 | Rick | you're not actually booting rockbox |
00:16:24 | HCl | i'm cleaning it a little, if it passes the test, and everything still works, i'll commit it |
00:16:27 | mirak | what ? |
00:16:28 | Rick | you're booting a patched firmware which then loads rockbox (or continues in original firmware) |
00:16:40 | mirak | ok |
00:16:54 | Rick | HCl: watcha working on? |
00:17:04 | mirak | the patched firmware was kind of hacked ? |
00:17:31 | Rick | mirak: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
00:17:49 | XShocK | in file pcm_playback.c in function pcm_play_data(..) there shall not be a line "pcm_setvol....", delete it |
00:18:00 | HCl | i'm not entirely happy about this line: |
00:18:02 | HCl | void* addr = (void*)((((unsigned int)addr_r) >> 2) << 2); // always align |
00:18:02 | HCl | data, never pass unaligned data |
00:18:18 | HCl | that can drop a few bytes of music.. |
00:18:35 | HCl | XShocK: ok |
00:18:53 | mirak | Rick: have you ver though using something like qemu to have a virtual testing environnement ? |
00:18:57 | mirak | ever |
00:19:32 | XShocK | ok. but passing things like they are, no aligned will lead to very bad bug ( it will just not play it.. ) |
00:19:34 | HCl | XShocK: what about that alignment line...? |
00:19:35 | Rick | mirak: we can use rockbox's uisimulator |
00:19:45 | HCl | yea.. okay.. |
00:19:45 | HCl | but. |
00:19:45 | mirak | ok |
00:19:55 | HCl | then you need to specify in the api that the address needs to be aligned |
00:20:06 | HCl | which could be a serious pain |
00:20:19 | mirak | Rick: have you tried to get in touch with iriver to get the specs of the machines ? |
00:20:36 | XShocK | i understand... but data should(not 100% sure though) be aligned, and size also should be multiple of 4. |
00:20:40 | Rick | No, I'm not that deep into iriver development |
00:20:45 | Rick | I'm just a rockbox plugin dev |
00:20:50 | mirak | ok |
00:20:56 | XShocK | otherwise CE error in DMA will fire, and sound must be stopped. |
00:20:59 | mirak | and some others ? |
00:21:06 | HCl | mhm. |
00:21:09 | Rick | from what I understand most if not is already known |
00:21:24 | HCl | okay, well, so far so good |
00:21:25 | mirak | sorry for the question, it will and in a few seconds ^^ |
00:21:29 | HCl | i'm gonna compile and test it |
00:21:31 | mirak | ok, good night |
00:21:35 | mirak | byz |
00:21:36 | Rick | mirak: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort - 'Hardware information' |
00:21:37 | HCl | does anyone have a sample.wav around? |
00:21:53 | rasher | HCl: make one with mpa2wav :) |
00:21:54 | Rick | HCl: just make one yourself? :p |
00:22:04 | Rick | hehe |
00:22:04 | HCl | rasher: good point. |
00:22:12 | HCl | i haven't used mpa2wav as of yet |
00:22:22 | HCl | ok ok, compile time |
00:22:35 | Rick | HCl: how's sound support in rockboy coming? |
00:22:39 | rasher | and rename it of course.. with rockbox :) |
00:22:48 | HCl | Rick: xshock got it to work. |
00:22:57 | Rick | wao, good going XShocK ;) |
00:22:59 | HCl | i applied his patch and am compiling it now |
00:23:00 | XShocK | but it is not good at all. |
00:23:06 | XShocK | i mean sound. |
00:23:10 | Rick | ah |
00:23:14 | Rick | what's the problem? |
00:23:19 | XShocK | it is sluggish... and i suspect it is rockboy.... |
00:23:26 | Rick | I wouldn't doubt it ;P |
00:23:31 | HCl | its most likely not at full speed |
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00:25:09 | Rick | make some sort of norender plugin so it just does sound and try a rom with music for intro? :p |
00:26:01 | mirak | Rick: thanks, I will dig into that after my exams |
00:26:24 | XShocK | it might as well be rbsound.c code which i wrote.. but i read it through several times, and hope it is right |
00:26:35 | Rick | Hehe |
00:27:05 | XShocK | by the way, how long does yield() function yields? :) |
00:27:51 | HCl | it didn't slow rockboy down much |
00:27:55 | HCl | when we added it |
00:28:04 | Rick | ah |
00:28:25 | Rick | how does it perform with the iriver overclocked? |
00:28:56 | XShocK | same as without overclocking. |
00:29:00 | Rick | aw ;P |
00:29:54 | mirak | there is something that I don't like on H300,it is that firmware handle bad the names with more tha 52 caracters |
00:30:12 | Rick | mirak: you mean can't handle? |
00:30:15 | mirak | so a folder with such names is not sorted appropriately |
00:30:37 | Rick | oh, now I see what you mean |
00:30:43 | mirak | the firmware only use the 52 first caracters to do the sorting |
00:30:44 | Rick | I don't think the rockbox has that problem |
00:30:57 | mirak | I don't see any reason it would in fact |
00:31:05 | mirak | I don't know how they codded their stuff |
00:31:29 | mirak | why 52 seems a problem also in the database thing |
00:31:52 | mirak | either they optimised the firmware to the max, or they did a crap thing |
00:33:26 | mirak | good noght |
00:33:28 | | Quit mirak ("Leaving") |
00:34:00 | | Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) |
00:39:48 | * | HCl searches for headphones |
00:41:57 | HCl | do i just play an mp3 to write it to wav? |
00:42:19 | rasher | no, "open with" |
00:42:22 | rasher | hold down select |
00:42:30 | HCl | ah. |
00:42:38 | * | HCl searches for a reset thing |
00:42:45 | XShocK | HCl: to play rockboy you don't need to run the debug menu thingy |
00:43:21 | HCl | i know that XD |
00:43:28 | HCl | just want to check whether music still works |
00:44:00 | XShocK | aah. ok. :) |
00:46:00 | HCl | to what file does mpa2wav write? |
00:46:54 | rasher | /libmadtest.wav |
00:46:57 | HCl | k. |
00:47:15 | HCl | its running at 45%... |
00:47:41 | XShocK | increasing cpu clock to 120 will make it 110% |
00:47:46 | HCl | yea.. |
00:47:55 | HCl | we're gonna have to optimize it a lot |
00:48:01 | HCl | we can't make it be in 120mhz all the time |
00:48:15 | rasher | preglow has it running at around 200% on some files |
00:48:20 | HCl | yea.. |
00:48:24 | rasher | and removing the disk writes helps |
00:48:44 | HCl | ohyea, i forgot about that.. |
00:48:44 | XShocK | btw, those battery results.. was the player going with hard disk on all the time? |
00:48:50 | HCl | XShocK: pretty much |
00:48:54 | rasher | except the last one, yes |
00:50:14 | HCl | does the iriver firmware ever write to disk? |
00:50:28 | XShocK | yes. |
00:50:31 | HCl | when? |
00:50:33 | XShocK | you can delet files |
00:50:37 | HCl | ohyea.. |
00:50:37 | XShocK | delete |
00:50:59 | XShocK | and also recording |
00:50:59 | rasher | and rename |
00:51:01 | XShocK | of sound |
00:51:22 | HCl | doh |
00:51:23 | HCl | i'm stupid |
00:51:27 | HCl | ofcourse. recording. |
00:51:36 | HCl | its a shame they never implemented creating playlists |
00:53:04 | rasher | oh.. I'm braindead. |
00:53:08 | rasher | no rename. |
00:53:13 | rasher | that's on rockbox |
00:53:15 | rasher | :) |
00:58:07 | HCl | um |
00:58:12 | HCl | xshock, does your patch break sound? |
00:58:22 | HCl | it just quits immediately when i try to play sample.wav |
00:59:02 | XShocK | no. it wokrs fine |
00:59:33 | XShocK | aaah yes |
00:59:44 | HCl | i must've messed something up.. sound in rockboy doesn't work properly either, all i hear is clicks |
01:00 |
01:00:12 | XShocK | strating playing of sound resolves the problem... |
01:00:38 | XShocK | in debug... about rockboy, you should hear clicking music... |
01:00:51 | HCl | do you have a new patch i can apply..? |
01:00:57 | XShocK | plays in the mario1 at least |
01:00:59 | HCl | i think i'll just revert to cvs and try again |
01:01:08 | XShocK | ok.. i will do |
01:01:49 | | Quit lolo-laptop ("Client exiting") |
01:08:47 | XShocK | ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/patchik |
01:08:50 | HCl | oh. try to cvs update while you're at it |
01:08:50 | HCl | okay |
01:09:05 | XShocK | i compared it to the newest cvs |
01:09:11 | HCl | otherway around |
01:09:18 | XShocK | i suspect it is again otherway |
01:09:19 | HCl | swap your source and destination... when you diff. |
01:09:22 | HCl | but its okay |
01:09:25 | HCl | i can just do patch -R |
01:09:29 | HCl | and do a reverse patch |
01:09:30 | XShocK | i spawed.. the same result... |
01:09:36 | HCl | its ok |
01:09:39 | HCl | i'll manage |
01:10:21 | HCl | okay, patched |
01:10:25 | HCl | let me try it again.. |
01:17:32 | HCl | i still get the same thing. |
01:17:45 | HCl | it just dumps out of it without playing any music |
01:17:45 | XShocK | run mario1. |
01:17:50 | XShocK | aaa ok |
01:17:52 | XShocK | run it again |
01:17:57 | XShocK | it will work. |
01:18:05 | * | HCl runs audio test again.. |
01:18:17 | HCl | nope |
01:18:24 | HCl | it just dumps straight out and goes back to the debug menu |
01:18:37 | HCl | :/ |
01:18:43 | HCl | rockbox.zip on my ftp |
01:18:49 | HCl | ftp://titania.student.utwente.nl/rockbox.zip |
01:18:55 | HCl | i just applied your patch and compiled it |
01:19:01 | XShocK | :) strange bug |
01:19:05 | XShocK | overclock the cpu |
01:19:10 | XShocK | and run again |
01:19:10 | HCl | mk |
01:19:39 | HCl | ah. |
01:19:39 | XShocK | i think i know why.. |
01:19:40 | HCl | that did it. |
01:19:49 | HCl | mmrr. |
01:19:51 | HCl | air rules :3 |
01:19:55 | HCl | air - all i need ^^ |
01:20:04 | XShocK | :) |
01:20:35 | HCl | it gets cut off though ;/ |
01:20:38 | HCl | obviously |
01:20:41 | XShocK | i put uda1380 initalization code immidiately after initalization of i2c. maybe later some code overwrites or reset something |
01:20:46 | XShocK | :) |
01:20:50 | HCl | okay |
01:20:55 | HCl | think you can investigate that bit a bit? |
01:20:58 | HCl | no need to rush |
01:21:02 | XShocK | sure |
01:21:10 | HCl | but i'd rather get it fairly bug free before committing |
01:21:15 | * | HCl moves on to test rockboy |
01:21:31 | XShocK | it is horribly clicky... |
01:22:02 | pabs | did it slow down at all, or is it still running at a playable speed? |
01:22:14 | * | pabs uses rockboy every day, and doesn't want to upgrade if it's fucked |
01:22:24 | XShocK | it is fucked. :) |
01:22:28 | XShocK | but not slow. |
01:22:31 | XShocK | just horrible sound |
01:22:43 | pabs | pshaw, i can turn that off |
01:22:54 | pabs | is it in cvs? |
01:22:57 | XShocK | no |
01:22:58 | HCl | its just clicking |
01:23:04 | XShocK | run the game itself |
01:23:09 | HCl | i have :/ |
01:23:12 | HCl | still just clicking |
01:23:15 | XShocK | mario1 ? |
01:23:15 | HCl | i'll try something else |
01:23:18 | HCl | yes |
01:23:38 | pabs | can i get ye olde patch, i'll give it a shot here too |
01:23:56 | pabs | rockbox either needs to open up cvs more, or it needs another mirror somewhere |
01:24:02 | * | pabs doesn't like this sending around patches sillyness |
01:24:12 | HCl | it needs neither. |
01:24:16 | HCl | these patches are experimental |
01:24:23 | HCl | the cvs is supposed to be semi stable |
01:24:36 | pabs | HCl: that's what branches are for |
01:24:53 | HCl | *shrugs* |
01:24:57 | HCl | either way, its not up to me.. |
01:25:01 | HCl | XShocK: its just doing clicks here... |
01:25:30 | XShocK | hmmm. |
01:25:42 | pabs | (and, just for reference, that's how {open,net,free}bsd, mozilla, enlightenment, and countless other large projects use cvs) |
01:27:12 | XShocK | how do i apply patch to the folder? |
01:27:27 | pabs | XShocK: patch < foo.patch |
01:27:39 | HCl | patch -p0/1/2 < foo.patch |
01:27:42 | HCl | start of with -p0 |
01:27:46 | HCl | and increase if it refuses |
01:27:51 | HCl | till it works |
01:28:34 | XShocK | are any other way? i tried it before, my cygwin does not have it. |
01:29:02 | HCl | no :/ |
01:29:15 | HCl | you probably need to install it with that cygwin installer thing? |
01:29:17 | XShocK | i will put it ther |
01:29:21 | XShocK | yes |
01:29:37 | HCl | anyways |
01:29:39 | HCl | i gotta go sleep now |
01:30:26 | XShocK | good night.. |
01:30:41 | HCl | but first read some more in my hellsing manga :3 |
01:30:43 | HCl | nightnight |
01:30:44 | pabs | XShocK: do you mind if i ahve a look at your patch? |
01:30:47 | HCl | keep up the good work :3 |
01:31:15 | XShocK | :) |
01:31:25 | XShocK | sure. ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/patchik |
01:32:56 | pabs | XShocK: checking |
01:33:19 | XShocK | do reverse of this patch.. |
01:33:32 | XShocK | i don't know how to make normal patches.. :) |
01:34:13 | pabs | XShocK: diff -ur olddir newdir |
01:34:30 | pabs | XShocK: diff -ur olddir newdir | gzip -c > patchfile.diff.gz |
01:34:45 | pabs | or just diff -ur oldfile newfile > patch.diff |
01:34:56 | pabs | (-u is universal format, and -r means recursive) |
01:35:17 | pabs | obviously -r isn't necessary for single files but i just type it out of habit :-D |
01:35:23 | kergoth | s/universal/unified/ |
01:35:46 | kergoth | and you forgot N, which is required if you want to show files that are in one of the dirs and not the other |
01:35:47 | pabs | kergoth: yeah, sorry |
01:35:58 | kergoth | -urNd is what i generally use |
01:36:13 | XShocK | thanks for info. :) |
01:36:17 | kergoth | :) |
01:36:21 | pabs | word |
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01:53:31 | XShocK | yep. hcl, there are only clicks... i forgot to add something then. |
01:53:57 | HCl | k, glad to hear its not just me |
01:54:01 | HCl | *just put his hellsing away* |
01:54:09 | HCl | the manga is so much better than the anime |
01:54:14 | * | HCl goes to sleep, night |
01:54:19 | XShocK | :) |
01:54:21 | XShocK | night |
01:56:13 | XShocK | aaah yes.... |
01:57:02 | XShocK | ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/pcm.h |
01:57:21 | XShocK | in rockboy directory... i changed the type of buf from byte* to short* |
01:57:30 | HCl | ah |
02:00 |
02:01:25 | HCl | ok changed that, i'll test it tomorrow. |
02:01:41 | HCl | it'd be nice if you can take a look at it not working at lower frequencies...night. |
02:02:32 | XShocK | what do you mean? |
02:02:37 | XShocK | i didn't understand |
02:02:50 | HCl | sample.wav not playing properly at lower frequencies |
02:03:28 | XShocK | you mean 22050.. |
02:03:45 | HCl | eh. remember i had to cpu boost before it would work.. |
02:03:46 | HCl | that. |
02:03:50 | HCl | anyways.. night |
02:03:54 | XShocK | ok. bight |
02:03:59 | XShocK | nght |
02:04:51 | XShocK | pabs are you here? |
02:07:37 | XShocK | ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/latest_files.zip |
02:07:44 | XShocK | test it if you want |
02:14:40 | DeadMan | zonk |
02:14:40 | pabs | XShocK: i'm here, i'll give it a shot in a second |
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05:21:49 | Rick | haha |
05:21:53 | Rick | well |
05:21:58 | Rick | I got a response from 'WhackoJacko' |
05:22:11 | Rick | "its public domain as long as you give me credit. I doubt people will try to |
05:22:11 | Rick | make a profit out of it though :) |
05:22:11 | Rick | " |
05:26:39 | stevenm | haha |
05:26:45 | stevenm | credit for what ? |
05:27:03 | Rick | the original code? :p |
05:27:15 | stevenm | to what ? sorry, caught the tail end of that |
05:27:35 | Rick | Oh, I ported a game he wrote to rockbox |
05:27:40 | stevenm | oh cool |
05:27:44 | stevenm | archos or iriver ? |
05:27:52 | Rick | iriver |
05:27:57 | stevenm | aww |
05:28:02 | stevenm | I need to get me one of thems |
05:28:17 | Rick | hehe |
05:29:44 | Rick | what's the size of archos lcd? |
05:29:48 | stevenm | there is going to be an 3x0 port, isn't there? |
05:30:00 | stevenm | I wanna say, 120something by 64 ? |
05:30:10 | Rick | hmm |
05:30:19 | stevenm | how big is this game ? |
05:30:45 | Rick | 100x100 for normal game |
05:30:54 | stevenm | hmm.. not gonna happen. |
05:31:01 | stevenm | what game is it ? |
05:31:03 | Rick | http://rick.gibbed.us/projects/rockbox/dump_0002.png |
05:31:38 | stevenm | make everything a pixel smaller ? |
05:31:48 | Rick | could work |
05:32:22 | stevenm | any news on the codec api ? |
05:32:28 | Rick | nope |
05:32:32 | Rick | not that I know of |
05:32:50 | stevenm | how about.. can/how do codecs output stuff to the screen ? |
05:33:14 | Rick | I have no idea? |
05:33:27 | stevenm | I can see this thing showing stuff other than just the song name.. perhaps it would be possible to even allow the user to mess w/ the channels on the fly |
05:33:36 | stevenm | hmm |
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06:46:45 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Can anyone help me for a sec? |
06:53:50 | Rick | ask away |
06:54:24 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Its totally unrelated but anyway, do you know what an ICQ UIN is? |
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07:00:32 | Rick | it's an ICQ 'screenname' |
07:01:22 | DJ_Dooms_Day | but the place i need to enter mine in thinks its too many numbers |
07:02:29 | Rick | lol |
07:02:33 | Rick | outdated then |
07:07:06 | amiconn | Rick: The archos lcd is 112x64 |
07:43:35 | amiconn | ..and your game port should be possible to do on it, if you decrease the 'cell size' to 7x5 or 6x5 (these should look better than 5x5, because the archos lcd pixels are not square) from the current 9x9 |
07:43:59 | amiconn | YOu could also increase the cell size to 11x11 for the iriver lcd |
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09:38:50 | Schnueff | moin |
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09:44:12 | Bager | hi, guys :) |
09:45:04 | Schnueff | hi Bager (Bagder)? |
09:45:11 | Bager | i know that you don't work active on iRiver H3x0 port, but i just find the USB Host 1.1 (so called USB OnTheGo) chip in internet |
09:45:16 | Bager | http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/cgi-bin/pldb/pip/ISP1362BD.html |
09:45:28 | Bager | Schnueff, no, I'm not Bagder :) |
09:45:35 | Schnueff | i c :) |
09:47:14 | Bager | i was looking at http://medulla.co.uk/images/H340/H300-interior/ |
09:47:28 | Bager | http://medulla.co.uk/images/H340/H300-interior/front_cct_board_scan.jpg <= here |
09:47:38 | Bager | the scan is not so good, but |
09:48:29 | Bager | it's ISP1362BD |
09:49:14 | Bager | so... could some of us add this info in the wiki (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents) |
09:51:59 | Schnueff | u could do it yourself? |
09:52:39 | Bager | i don't have account |
09:52:41 | Schnueff | just register and edit |
09:52:48 | Schnueff | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/TWikiRegistration |
09:53:51 | Bager | ok, i'm looking at it |
09:54:02 | Schnueff | its really easy |
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10:06:38 | Bager | Schnueff how can i upload pic of the chip (is there such possibility in wiki or just html <img> tag) |
10:13:33 | Bager | HCl ? :) |
10:13:50 | Bager | he's obviously away |
10:18:26 | Schnueff | Bager: use the `Attach' linmk at the bottom |
10:19:06 | Bager | ok, i haven't seen it |
10:20:55 | Bager | Schnueff i don't see it again :) |
10:21:37 | Schnueff | lemme c |
10:21:57 | Bager | Don't forget - if you change something, do it in GoodStyle and follow the TextFormattingRules. |
10:21:57 | Bager | −− Main.HristoKovachev - 23 Mar 2005 <== This is your signature for easy copy & paste operation |
10:22:28 | Bager | and below button "preview changes" and link "cancel edit" |
10:22:36 | Schnueff | did you attach something? |
10:22:46 | Schnueff | i dont see a pic in the diffs |
10:22:54 | Bager | no, i did'nt |
10:23:00 | Bager | *didn't |
10:23:20 | Bager | that's why i'm asking you |
10:23:37 | Schnueff | ah, u dont see the attach link |
10:23:43 | Schnueff | cancel -> then look for attach at the bottom |
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10:25:07 | Bager | hm, iiuc, this isn't what i want |
10:25:38 | Schnueff | u want a direct link? then u may use <img ...> |
10:25:41 | Bager | i think it will appear as attachment at the bottom of the page |
10:26:04 | Bager | yes, i want, but i must put somewhere the .jpg file... |
10:27:02 | Schnueff | yes, so do `attach', then upload the pic and select 'Create link' as well as 'Hide file' checkboxes |
10:27:17 | Schnueff | (select the checkboxes before uploading) |
10:27:35 | Schnueff | then, a link magically has appeared in the topic text, with `Edit' u may move it where u want |
10:28:26 | Bager | but ... in this way... the page will have an attachment at bottom, won't it? |
10:28:39 | Schnueff | not, if u have selected the 'Hide file' checkbox |
10:28:44 | Bager | sorry for lame questions |
10:28:45 | Bager | :) |
10:28:48 | Schnueff | no problem |
10:29:04 | Schnueff | if you select `Hide file', the attachment does not appear in the regular attachment table |
10:29:05 | Bager | the first time is (nearly) always hard :P |
10:29:12 | Schnueff | still, it is attached / associted with the topic |
10:29:19 | Bager | ok, 10x |
10:29:26 | Bager | i'll try |
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10:42:51 | Bager | ok, done :) |
10:44:50 | Bager | btw ... |
10:45:01 | Bager | the chip is generic, as far as i can see |
10:45:29 | Bager | i mean, there's no hardware limitation in support of only USB Mass Storage |
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10:47:53 | Bager | so ... if rockbox runs on H3x0, and someone writes drivers ... you can for example ... connect keyboard, Canon cameras (they are not UMS compliant), bluetooth for connection with mobile phone... |
10:47:58 | Bager | eh... dreams :) |
10:48:14 | Rick | haha |
10:48:16 | Rick | that would be neat |
10:48:20 | Bager | yeah:) |
10:48:23 | Rick | an iriver with a web browser |
10:48:24 | Rick | ;P |
10:48:55 | Bager | if you write drivers for USB lan card and TCP/IP stack and .... html browser :) |
10:49:18 | Bager | or wireless card |
10:49:36 | rasher | web server! |
10:49:42 | Rick | rofl |
10:49:45 | Bager | but these are really mad dreams :) |
10:49:48 | Rick | nah |
10:49:50 | Rick | download pornography |
10:49:51 | Rick | ;P |
10:50:00 | Bager | haha |
10:50:18 | * | rasher giggles at the thought of a player lying with a usb wireless nic servering webpages |
10:51:19 | Bager | hahaha :) |
10:52:57 | Bager | btw, i can't see what's the USB 2.0 slave chip... |
10:53:17 | Bager | there's a nasty sticker on it |
10:53:28 | Bager | or something like it |
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10:59:56 | rasher | Yay tax returns! |
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11:07:12 | * | LinusN is also tired of all the patches floating around |
11:07:23 | LinusN | this is why we have a patch tracker |
11:07:27 | Bager | LinusN: hi, master ;) |
11:07:37 | LinusN | but for some reason, people don't want to use it |
11:07:52 | rasher | sniff |
11:08:14 | Bager | laziness |
11:08:32 | LinusN | i dont' think it's laziness |
11:08:41 | Rick | hehe |
11:08:54 | Rick | what kind of patches? |
11:09:43 | Bager | source |
11:09:51 | Bager | code |
11:09:57 | Rick | that's not what I meant |
11:10:00 | rasher | where are all these patches |
11:10:16 | Bager | @ sf.net (iirc) |
11:10:22 | rasher | I'd be happy to create patch tracker item sfor them |
11:11:05 | LinusN | a hot tip is to check the "patches" link in the menu on www.rockbox.org |
11:11:11 | Bager | http://www.rockbox.org/patches.shtml |
11:11:22 | Rick | I thought you were referring to patches that wern't listed there |
11:11:22 | Rick | ;P |
11:11:31 | LinusN | yes i am |
11:11:32 | rasher | Yeah I meant "the patches floating around" |
11:11:49 | rasher | That's what I was referring to as well :) |
11:11:58 | Rick | hehe |
11:12:04 | LinusN | i am talking about xshocks sound patch, for example |
11:12:10 | Rick | ? |
11:12:14 | Rick | I thought that was a fix for rockboy |
11:12:20 | Rick | and hcl is working on it |
11:13:26 | LinusN | it is a fix for rockboy |
11:15:15 | Rick | heh |
11:15:23 | LinusN | or rather, both pcm playback and rockboy |
11:15:33 | Rick | ah |
11:15:55 | LinusN | pabs: no, that is not what branches are for |
11:16:09 | Rick | hmm |
11:16:18 | Rick | the height for a string will always be the same for a specific font, right? |
11:16:24 | LinusN | yes |
11:16:31 | Rick | is there a way to get the height of the current font? |
11:16:48 | Rick | other than getstringsize |
11:16:49 | LinusN | getstringsize |
11:16:58 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | So whats news? |
11:17:14 | LinusN | Rick: why not getstringsize? |
11:17:18 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: no news |
11:17:19 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | How goes playback in rockbox? |
11:17:29 | Rick | if the height is always the same, I don't see why it needs to be a part of getstringsize() |
11:19:06 | LinusN | Rick: it's quite handy to have both height and width in one function |
11:19:10 | Rick | well yes |
11:19:20 | Rick | but it would be handle to be able to get just the height too |
11:19:38 | * | Rick is looking for the code for lcd_getstringsize right now |
11:19:46 | LinusN | no need to pollute the api with redundant functions |
11:19:52 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | Hey Linus, btw that greyscale patch doesn't work. I know its not complete but it tends to fuck things up pretty good :P |
11:19:58 | Rick | I want to see if I can do lcd_getstringsize(NULL, NULL, &height); |
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11:20:24 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: how does it fuck up? |
11:20:43 | Rick | The only bug I know of in grayscale, is that it doesn't reset the grayscale after exiting from a plugin |
11:20:49 | Rick | but I don't remember if you included that in your cleaned up patch |
11:21:19 | LinusN | i didn't |
11:21:57 | Rick | I guess that's a patch I should have submitted |
11:21:57 | Rick | ;P |
11:22:31 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | Linus: Well it SEEMS to make the resolution of hte LCD a hell of a lot bigger. I say resolution because it looks like every second line is not being drawn, or the image is being drawn over every second line (therefore making everything seem big). It cuts a large amount of the screen out. |
11:22:39 | Rick | LinusN: http://rick.gibbed.us/grayscale-fix.patch |
11:23:00 | Rick | DJ_Dooms_Day: is this in rockboy? because rockboy does that |
11:23:05 | Rick | purposely |
11:23:20 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | No, this is in rockbox |
11:23:22 | Rick | odd |
11:23:35 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | I couldn't see the entire menu, it was massive |
11:23:56 | Rick | is this in the simulator? |
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11:24:09 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | Yep |
11:24:17 | LinusN | the patch is for target |
11:24:35 | LinusN | the sim can't do grayscale yet |
11:25:02 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | Do you mean it only works if i put it on my iriver? |
11:25:11 | Rick | I'm guessing the uisimulator is using 1bit when the grayscale is trying to do 2bit |
11:25:27 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: yes |
11:25:28 | Rick | that would explain it |
11:25:33 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | Ahuh |
11:25:50 | LinusN | just another reason not to put it in cvs... :_) |
11:26:00 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | and why isn't the sim in 2bit? Is it hard or just no one has got around to it? |
11:26:28 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: no one got around to it |
11:26:49 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | Right, well that really sucks |
11:27:00 | LinusN | does it? |
11:27:09 | Rick | looks like I can do rb->lcd_getstringsize(NULL, NULL, &height); from what I see in the code for iriver ;) |
11:27:26 | LinusN | Rick: then all is well |
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11:27:26 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | (btw, how can i kill linkdead dupes of me? isn't there a /ghost command or something?) |
11:27:31 | DJ_Dooms_Day|BR | nevermind :P |
11:27:33 | Rick | although *str++ might not like a NULL |
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11:27:51 | LinusN | Rick: it doesn't |
11:28:01 | Rick | yeah, so it'll probably go boom |
11:28:01 | Rick | :/ |
11:28:12 | LinusN | Just give it a one-letter string |
11:28:21 | Rick | I guess that works |
11:28:23 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Linus: Yes, yes it does suck, i can't test out greyscale logos until the sim works. |
11:28:24 | LinusN | like we do in the rest of the rockbox code |
11:28:30 | Rick | ah |
11:28:49 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: run it on the target |
11:29:06 | Rick | DJ_Dooms_Day: if you're too afraid to do it yourself, I can test your logos for you |
11:29:38 | Rick | but you shouldn't have any problem doing it yourself |
11:29:44 | Rick | if it locks up, the reset button will help |
11:30:07 | LinusN | grayscale isn't exactly top priority for us right now, that's why the grayscale support is lagging |
11:30:10 | DJ_Dooms_Day | No well i could test it on my iriver but its time consuming, specially since i don't know for sure what the exact greyscale colors are, or what format to put the bmp in in PS |
11:30:32 | Rick | DJ_Dooms_Day: it's not time consuming |
11:30:43 | Rick | one could easily whip up a plugin that loads the data from a file |
11:31:03 | Rick | then all you have to do is mount, copy file, unmount |
11:31:28 | DJ_Dooms_Day | One could easily do that if they could code... |
11:31:30 | DJ_Dooms_Day | :P |
11:34:38 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Well, short of learning some C i don't think i can do much without the help of a bored coder. So i think i'll just wait till it becomes more of a priority. |
11:35:06 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Btw, why does it stretch rockboy on purpose? |
11:35:17 | Rick | because the iriver lcd is smaller than the gameboy lcd |
11:35:45 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ...so why are we STRETCHING the rockboy? |
11:36:25 | Rick | shrinking |
11:36:27 | Rick | vertically |
11:37:30 | DJ_Dooms_Day | doesn't rockboy do that now? |
11:38:06 | Rick | yes |
11:38:53 | DJ_Dooms_Day | -_- |
11:39:04 | DJ_Dooms_Day | You confusing boy you |
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11:41:49 | DMJC | rockboy cuts off pixels atm |
11:41:56 | DMJC | it doesn't scale the screen |
11:42:22 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Ah |
11:42:25 | DJ_Dooms_Day | I didn't notice |
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11:56:42 | Rick | night |
11:57:57 | DJ_Dooms_Day | night |
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12:07:05 | HCl | what do you mean scale? |
12:08:36 | rasher | Yay! xsidplay finally figured out the songlength db! |
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15:11:34 | HCl | hello |
15:12:27 | rasher | morning |
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15:28:58 | ftl-M^X^E`off | anyone here ? :) |
15:29:11 | ftl-M^X^E`off | Is there a Rockbox firmware rlsed for AV400 series ? |
15:29:39 | bobTHC | RTFT |
15:29:50 | ftl-M^X^E`off | which means ? :> |
15:30:41 | ftl-M^X^E`off | bobTHC ? |
15:31:08 | bobTHC | "Read this Fucking Topic", but it's just a joke, I invite u to read the site before ask question |
15:31:31 | ftl-M^X^E`off | I've read yes |
15:31:40 | ftl-M^X^E`off | I've seen there is only for jukebox |
15:31:45 | ftl-M^X^E`off | I thought maybe they dont publish it or smthing :/ |
15:31:55 | ftl-M^X^E`off | I'm dying for a god damn other firmware the original stinks |
15:34:10 | bobTHC | for AV400 series a linux port is on the way i thing, but it's not rockbox who developp it |
15:34:27 | ftl-M^X^E`off | is it possible to load linux into AV400 ? |
15:34:40 | ftl-M^X^E`off | any idea where can i find a guide about it or something? |
15:34:52 | ftl-M^X^E`off | Ohhh or you mean its gonna be released soon :> |
15:35:07 | bobTHC | AVos or something like that |
15:35:47 | bobTHC | http://linav.free.fr/ |
15:36:00 | ftl-M^X^E`off | yeah found :) tnx |
15:36:53 | ftl-M^X^E`off | its for Av300 ;/ |
15:43:00 | bobTHC | i haven't more info, sorry |
15:43:13 | ftl-M^X^E`off | :< |
15:43:54 | bobTHC | join them chan |
15:44:07 | ftl-M^X^E`off | did :> |
15:44:10 | ftl-M^X^E`off | on 1 answers =[ |
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17:41:21 | ftl-M^X^E`off | some one get me a av400 os =[[[ |
17:51:17 | bobTHC | lol |
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21:55:12 | rasher | quiet day |
21:56:10 | Rick | hehe |
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22:15:01 | RaZorbacK | Hi all,v is there someone to help me with my jukebox studio? I have flashed my box successfully, it worked during a few days and now, i've lost my voice feature, the display is scrolling very quickly from right to left... i'm kinda lost. when i try to restore my backup firmware, anything i try i have the message "not from rom"à the voice feature is very important for me, i'm visually impaired. Please, i need help! :(. |
22:17:32 | rasher | I'll have to pass.. don't know anything about the archos models or voice feature.. sorry.. |
22:17:46 | rasher | Let's hope some activity can wake someone up |
22:18:49 | RaZorbacK | thx man, I hope so... |
22:19:27 | RaZorbacK | everything is working except this damn voice and the display. |
22:19:42 | rasher | Alternatively, you could try the mailing-list |
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22:20:37 | RaZorbacK | OK, gonna stay tunned a bit on here time to smoke a cig and i'll try the mailing list... not money to buy another archos... :( |
22:21:01 | rasher | You say the voice worked, but stopped working? |
22:21:45 | RaZorbacK | yes it works for a few days, fast booting etc... really cool but it stops and i cant restore it. formating the box did not resolve the issue |
22:23:17 | RaZorbacK | and now, my sighted wife can't even read on the box screen properly, the letters are moving very quickly form right to left... bizarre |
22:24:29 | rasher | annoying.. there's a setting to change the scrollspeed |
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22:26:48 | RaZorbacK | haven't try this ... bugt when i try, it's even hard to go to the settings :( really annoying. but i don't blame anyone, i've tried the flashing procedure, and, the bizarre thing is that it works for a few days. don't know what happened |
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22:32:40 | RaZorbacK | i'm coming back in ten minutes, if someone can find a solution to my problem it will be very nice. thanks though Racher for attempting to help :) |
22:33:12 | rasher | I only have an iriver, so I haven't been able to test the voice feature yet |
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23:52:46 | RaZorbacK | is the mailing list moderated? I haven't received my confirm message... |