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#rockbox log for 2005-03-29

00:00:10ShebbOk, well I shall try from the latest then
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00:06:02t0masI'll ask tomorrow
00:06:08t0masgonna sleep now :)
00:06:10 Quit t0mas ("bye")
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00:07:35*[IDC]Dragon says goodnight
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00:07:52lImbusöh. tschö
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00:24:20ShebbI have built everything. Just to check, to update rockbox on my ihp I just copy over rockbox.bin and the .rock files?
00:24:38Bagderuse make zip
00:24:41Bagderand uninstall that zip
00:24:48Bagderunpack I mean
00:26:17stevenmhello people
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00:26:36stevenmare there any news on the codec api ?
00:26:44stevenmHow would a codec do file i/o ?
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00:36:37ShebbFor some reason 'make zip' did not work straight off. I added 'perl' at the start of the zip entry and it worked fine.
00:36:52ShebbAm I missing something in my environment?
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08:00:43t0masgood morning :)
08:03:40t0mashave you read the logs?
08:03:54t0maslilo want's you to fill in a form... for registering the channel
08:04:20LinusNjust came back from vacation
08:04:41t0maslol, capslock... -> IRCop
08:05:21t0masYou as a full project member should give him a form... that this channel is the official rockbox channel...
08:05:32t0masand we should choose some channel operators...
08:06:34LinusNfunny, we did that years ago, iirc
08:07:17t0masit is expired he said...
08:07:24 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag")
08:07:44ashridahyeah, if you don't auth as the channel owner for some time, it kills the registration for a channel
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08:21:14amiconnGood morning
08:26:24t0maswe should start using internet time here ;)
08:26:36t0mas"Good 100th time tick :)"
08:27:14kergoth01:26 <kergoth> ugt
08:27:14kergoth01:26 <ibot> ugt is probably Universal Greeting Time. It states that it is always morning when person comes in,
08:27:17kergoth and it is always late when person leaves. Local time of any member of channel is irrelevant.
08:28:04Strathfair enough :)
08:29:26*LinusN is reviewing xshocks pcm patch
08:30:14t0masdid he submit it to the patchtracker?
08:30:34LinusNno, it's in cvs now
08:30:53LinusNbut i wish i have reviewed it before it got into cvs
08:31:53*t0mas updates his cvs :)
08:31:55*LinusN gets some coffee
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08:42:10*t0mas has got to go...
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08:42:30t0mas|workc ya
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09:27:35bobTHChi folks!
09:28:10*Bagder orders a Dell 2001FP
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09:36:42BagderLinusN: your 446 is like an old telly in comparison to the 445 ;-)
09:36:52Bagder... but it works
09:36:57kergothBagder: good choice. dell's lcds are quality
09:37:00*kergoth has a 2005fpw
09:37:53Bagdermy not yet 5 years old 21" Nokia CRT died
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10:25:56Lynx_Bagder: did you hear good things about the dell? i consider buying something new, too...
10:26:24BagderLynx_: nothing but good in fact, I know many people who has that one
10:26:55BagderLinusN and Zagor being two of them
10:27:10Lynx_Bagder: it's not even that expensive. if i only had a dvi out video card...
10:49:52Lynx_Hmm, an Anandtech review says the quality of the dell driven by the analog port is "disappointing" :(
10:50:20LinusNis that really the 2001fp?
10:51:00Lynx_"streaking and ghosting extremly present at 1200x1600 analog"
10:52:20LinusNthat's a resolution i didn't know existed
10:53:04Lynx_well, it has a svivel to tilt, doesn't it? ;)
10:53:25LinusNi have run 1600x1200 analog the past 2 years with crystal clear picture
10:53:52LinusNi guess it depends on the cable, and the graphics card
10:54:27Lynx_i'm not sure what "streaking"w ould be anyway...
10:54:38LinusNbut i admit that it is even better with dvi
10:55:19Lynx_LinusN: did you ever play games on it?
10:55:33LinusNoh yes, lots of CS
10:56:00Lynx_so it's fast enough?
10:56:11LinusNit is
10:56:30Lynx_it has be out 2 years already?
10:56:34LinusNthere are probably faster displays out there, but it is fast enough for me
10:56:59Bagderwell, there are better displayes, but I doubt they are at this price
10:57:25Lynx_yes, not at that size and resolution i guess
10:59:39LinusNiirc, zagor bought his 2001fp back in 2001, and i bought mine in 2002 or 2003 methinks
10:59:49LinusNbut i might be wrong about xagore
11:02:53*ashridah blinks
11:02:57ashridahhow did zagor become xagore
11:03:40LinusNthick fingers
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11:06:17LinusNshalom, Zagor
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11:12:04Zagora bit late for that, innit? anyway i've got a nasty cold i wouldn't want to impose on you guys. perhaps tomorrow.
11:13:06DJ_Dooms_Dayman everyone has a cold
11:13:24ashridahi had a cold. now i'm coming down with a case of bronchitis or something :/
11:13:49ashridahdoesn't help when i've got a major software engineering project due in a few days and my partner's been mia all day
11:13:58DJ_Dooms_Dayits insane, ome sort of epidemic
11:17:04Mode"#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
11:17:21Mode"#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
11:17:28Mode"#rockbox -o Zagor " by Zagor (
11:17:44Zagor(ignore that, just testing)
11:17:58*LinusN flexes his muscles
11:18:45*DJ_Dooms_Day Kicks LinusN in the ass, "Thats for kicking me some time in the future"
11:20:15Mode"#rockbox -o LinusN " by LinusN (
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11:54:38ashridahman. i'm so going to have to use junit next time i submit one of these. writing test classes by hand is a royal pita
12:15:54HCli hate math..
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13:35:07preglowand he's back
13:37:30*LinusN dances around and celebrates
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13:40:23preglownothing like an enthusiastic welcome
13:48:57preglowthusly commenced the battle against the will to just lie down and sleep
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14:04:25HClHey, if Pacman had affected us as kids we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music... oh wait..
14:04:56preglowperhaps mario affected me too much
14:05:33HClyou walk around jumping your head into blocks and collecting coins?
14:05:34LinusNoh, you're jumping ladders and stomping huge bugs to death?
14:05:35HCl :P
14:05:45preglowyes, all the while loving square waves
14:06:05preglowand chasing princesses
14:06:20HClwhile you're a plumber? :P
14:06:46*HCl goes to play pacman and make food...
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14:24:11DJ_Dooms_DaySo wtf is going down with rockbox? I haven't seen shit happen in ages :P
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14:24:23Bagderthen do something
14:24:30Bagderwhining isn't helping
14:25:13DJ_Dooms_Daylol settle down, i'm not whining, it was just a question, with some attitude thrown in
14:25:24DJ_Dooms_Dayand i am doing something
14:25:30Bagdergood ;-)
14:25:34DJ_Dooms_Dayatleast to my max ability anyway
14:25:40DJ_Dooms_Daywhich isn't much :P
14:26:05DJ_Dooms_DayYou working on anything?
14:26:41Bagdernot much, no
14:27:36Bagderwell, I'm first in the CVS activity table! ;*)
14:27:54DJ_Dooms_DayDoing what?
14:28:04Bagdermodifed apps/FILES
14:28:19*preglow further delays unpacking
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14:38:38rasherargh, noisy mormons outside my door
14:39:00DJ_Dooms_Daykill em
14:39:05DJ_Dooms_Dayits the only way
14:39:29rasherThey live next door :-\
14:39:54DJ_Dooms_Dayse grenades, i dont care
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14:42:45rasherI'll consider it.
14:43:37DJ_Dooms_DayWell thats a start, i guess
14:44:21*ashridah feels fortunate that mormons are rare in his part of australia
14:44:39ashridahalthough i have seen a few at the train station. (or at least, possibly the same ones a few separate times)
14:44:48ashridahthey know better than to bother the person wearing earphones :)
14:44:52DJ_Dooms_Daywtf is a mormon?!
14:45:04ashridahDJ_Dooms_Day: a member of the church of latter day saints
14:45:09ashridahusually quite pushy
14:45:27rasherI think they're sufficiently rare to not be pushy in Denmark
14:45:31ashridahotherwise known as god botherers
14:45:40DJ_Dooms_Dayi think 'fuckin idiots' would have worked better
14:45:51rasherJehova's witnesses on the other hand....
14:45:52ashridahDJ_Dooms_Day: no, they're generally reasonable upstanding people
14:45:53*LinusN would be happy if the discussion ended about here
14:46:02ashridahthey're just very pushy, devout, and righteous
14:46:28DJ_Dooms_Dayjehova's, man they suck
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14:46:49ashridahsorry, the church of jesus crhsit of latter day saints
14:46:53ashridahknew i was missing a bit
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14:48:20rasherMy only complaint about the next-door ones is that they're loud, possibly due to being teenage girls
14:49:43rasherthis appears to be #rockbox, not #religious-drivel
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14:53:27preglowwhy, i agree
14:55:29rasherSorry about that.
14:56:30preglowi forgive you
14:57:22DJ_Dooms_DayNo you don't
14:57:38preglowok by me
14:57:41*DJ_Dooms_Day Hands preglow a batton, "Fuck him up!"
14:58:01*preglow kisses the email pile good-bye and goes to unpack instead
14:58:39DJ_Dooms_Day..well, that was unexpected
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15:16:07*rasher looks at the audioscrobbler submission graphs
15:16:12rasherpoor servers..
15:16:32*HCl looks at his cat licking himself..
15:16:45preglowdon't let it give you ideas
15:17:00preglowi'll go restock my refridgerator
15:17:13rasherAn empty fridge makes baby jesus cry
15:17:30preglowit also makes adult preglow gnash his teeth
15:18:27rasherEven worse!
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16:25:10Lost-ashnow this is interesting. do people define megabit as being 10^6 bits, or 2^20 bits?
16:35:57Lost-ashokay. the head tutor for this stupid communications subject has said, and i quote "> If you want to have accurate value, and only applies to file configuration, 1 Megabit = 1,204,000 bits"
16:36:00Lost-ashand i'm going wtf?!
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16:50:13Zagor"Those who can, do. Those who don't, tech."
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17:00:33rasher1,204,000 is a pretty mad figure to come up with
17:00:41rasherit doesn't make the slightest bit of sense
17:02:58Tomas|laptopmaybe in base64 ?
17:03:29*Tomas|laptop remembers some mad figures in mailserver configuration..
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17:04:24t0masback :)
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19:18:29Tanghi world
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22:39:49t0masbusy here :)
22:40:40t0masHCl? are all rockboy sound updates in CVS now?
22:43:06t0mashmz... doesn't sound really great then :)
22:44:16t0masbut maybe that's gnuboy?
22:44:28t0mason my pc the gnuboy sound isn't really good too...
22:44:36t0mastoo -> either
22:44:55preglowspeed issue
22:44:59preglowit says so in the log
22:45:15t0mashm... so it needs optimization?
22:45:54preglowHCl: am i correct in saying that rockboy uses 11khz samplerate right now?
22:55:11HCli dunno, i think so
22:55:14HCli'm lagging like hell
22:55:16HClfor some reason
22:56:30preglowwhat a stupid sample rate to use for that purpose
22:56:38preglowwireless network again? :P
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23:09:18t0masI have two float collums in mysql... and when I add then (119.95 and 15.00) I get this: 134.94999694824
23:09:41t0masIs it weird to expect 134,95 ? :)
23:09:54Bagderthat's why they call it float :-)
23:10:08t0maswhat? the value is just floating around? :P
23:13:01preglowwhat? no auto rounding? what is the world coming to
23:13:38preglowfloating point values are never accurate, t0mas
23:13:39t0masghehe... yeah... floats are not guaranteed acurate right?
23:13:47t0masok, that's what I tought :)
23:13:49preglowthat is, they are some times
23:13:58preglowbut more often, they're not
23:13:59Bagderthey... float
23:14:07preglowi don't think you can represent 1.0 accurately even
23:14:13t0masyeah, but the table isn't mine
23:14:25t0masso I can't change it :(
23:14:30t0masroud() em is ok?
23:14:36preglowwell, no
23:14:43preglownot unless you want it rounded to an integer
23:14:45t0masor are they sometimes so far off that rounding gives a wrong result?
23:15:03t0masround(value * 100) / 100;
23:15:33t0masare you sure they alway's round to the right number?
23:15:40t0mas(so they are not that far off?) :)
23:16:22Bagderthey should not be far off
23:16:54t0maswell... I'll add the comment they should change the float's to normal DECIMAL(10,2)'s
23:17:02t0masand round() em for now :)
23:19:09t0mastnx :)
23:19:13t0masmy report worked :D
23:19:14t0mas| Debet | Credit | Saldo |
23:19:14DBUGEnqueued KICK t0mas
23:19:14t0mas| 134.95 | 125.16 | 9.79 |
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23:21:24preglowfloats should never be far off, no
23:21:26preglowjust a bit
23:21:49t0maswell... if they are... it's just a case of "I told you so :P"
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