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| 00:21:36 | mirak | hillarious |
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| 06:20:34 | mwvore | Q2, does the Archos Gmini XS200 Digital Audio Player look like a disk under linux the way that the 6000 did? I don't want to have to use Windoze if I dont have to . |
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| 06:36:18 | mwvore | Question, does the RockBox work on the ARCHOS Gmini XS200 Digital Audio Player? I'm thinking of getting one. My old Jukebox 6000 seems to have bit the dust, It will not boot.Q2, does the Archos Gmini XS200 Digital Audio Player look like a disk under linux the way that the 6000 did? I don't want to have to use Windoze if I dont have to . |
| 06:40:51 | tvelocity | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPort |
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| 08:22:31 | * | LinusN finally understood the workings of the audio dma in the iriver |
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| 08:44:38 | Bagder | cool |
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| 08:46:07 | LinusN | greatly simplified the pcm dma code :-) |
| 08:46:30 | Bagder | goodie |
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| 08:47:56 | * | Bagder discovers M-x copyright-update |
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| 08:51:15 | LinusN | Bagder: what does it do? |
| 08:51:24 | Bagder | updates the copyright string in a file |
| 08:51:29 | Bagder | to the current year |
| 08:51:33 | LinusN | aha |
| 08:51:46 | LinusN | what an incredibly useful feature... |
| 08:51:54 | Bagder | hehe |
| 08:52:03 | LinusN | a must-have |
| 08:53:14 | Bagder | I wrote a script that compares the modified year with the year in the copyright |
| 08:53:26 | Bagder | and that then updates it |
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| 09:31:43 | kurzhaarrocker | Bagder: could that copyright update be abused to set the default value of the clock? I mean the default to be used when it forgets time because of a battery change. |
| 09:32:06 | kurzhaarrocker | So that the default time == time of build. |
| 09:32:53 | Bagder | we could easily write a special hack for that |
| 09:35:01 | * | kurzhaarrocker thinks that cvs might be able to update a variable with checkout time. |
| 09:35:54 | Zagor | better let the build system to it, rather than cvs |
| 09:36:07 | ashridah | far better |
| 09:36:32 | Bagder | where's the default set? |
| 09:36:42 | * | kurzhaarrocker shrugs |
| 09:36:58 | Zagor | we don't set a default |
| 09:37:13 | Bagder | right |
| 09:37:24 | Zagor | but we have a out-of-range detection, so we could set a default then |
| 09:37:40 | Bagder | the valid_time() check |
| 09:38:00 | Zagor | sounds right |
| 09:38:50 | Bagder | it does set a "default" already |
| 09:39:30 | Bagder | it'll be a fun hack... lets see... |
| 09:40:28 | * | kurzhaarrocker wished someone would consider code-poliecing & applying the volume triggered recording patch to be fun |
| 09:42:35 | * | LinusN finally fixed rolo on the iriver |
| 09:45:24 | dwihno | \o/ Yay! \o/ |
| 09:45:39 | dwihno | Zagor: Congrats on your bytarsajt. It seems to rulla på ganska bra! :) |
| 09:46:06 | Zagor | yup |
| 09:46:09 | LinusN | dwihno: congrats on your failed english classes :-) |
| 09:46:34 | dwihno | LinusN: Misa people gonna spiik inklish? |
| 09:46:52 | LinusN | engrish |
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| 09:49:51 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker is a ghostbuster |
| 09:50:01 | dwihno | Who you gonna call? :) |
| 09:50:07 | dwihno | kurzhaarrocker \o/ |
| 09:50:42 | * | kurzhaarrocker puts his ghost killing weapon into his weapon locker |
| 09:51:35 | dwihno | You can't really kill the ghosts. You can capture them though. I've seen the historical documents of Egon Spengler and his friends ;D |
| 09:59:52 | kurzhaarrocker | Well actually I wasn't really killing ghosts - more like committing suicide with my alter ego... |
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| 10:00:29 | Zagor | maybe we should add a RLD watchdog: after 10 seconds of hung disk, reboot and resume |
| 10:00:58 | Zagor | or at least power cycle the disk |
| 10:03:16 | LinusN | sure |
| 10:03:41 | LinusN | hard drive power cycle sounds fine with me |
| 10:03:57 | LinusN | in the ata driver |
| 10:04:04 | kurzhaarrocker | Oh that reminds me of something 'funny': I browsed to a song in the song db which didn't exist on the drive any more. When I tried to play it there was a hell of disk activity, the ui was frozen and playback stopped when the buffer was empty. |
| 10:04:05 | Zagor | can fmr control disk power too? |
| 10:05:08 | LinusN | nope |
| 10:05:19 | * | ashridah notes that leaving rockbox running in usb-attach mode overnight a few nights ago lasted all night, although the hard drive had run out of power and powered down. |
| 10:05:24 | ashridah | just as well i didn't have it moutned |
| 10:05:27 | ashridah | mounted even |
| 10:16:50 | Bagder | hm |
| 10:16:55 | Bagder | dosfsck -a /dev/sda1 |
| 10:17:02 | Bagder | dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN |
| 10:17:02 | Bagder | Seek to -1580662272:Invalid argument |
| 10:17:17 | Bagder | that good? ;-) |
| 10:17:44 | Zagor | oops :) |
| 10:17:55 | kurzhaarrocker | Seems Bagder discovered the unused disk space before the first cluster |
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| 10:19:13 | Bagder | weird |
| 10:20:17 | Bagder | stracing doesn't offer many clues eithe |
| 10:20:36 | Bagder | it opens the device, and then lseeks |
| 10:20:43 | Bagder | lseek(3, 2714305024, SEEK_SET) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 10:21:45 | Zagor | 2714305024 is a rather large value for lseek though |
| 10:21:54 | Bagder | after the open, it reads 512 bytes from the device |
| 10:22:02 | Bagder | read(3, "\353X\220mkdosfs\0\0\2 \0\2\0\0\0\0\370\0\0?\0\377\0\0"..., 512) = 512 |
| 10:22:11 | Bagder | note the "mkdosfs" |
| 10:22:37 | Zagor | it's sector 0, isn't it? |
| 10:22:44 | Bagder | I guess |
| 10:22:54 | Bagder | it is from index 0 on the device |
| 10:23:46 | Bagder | what would that initial seek do? |
| 10:24:17 | Bagder | open(), seek to 0, read 512 bytes, seek to 2714305024 |
| 10:24:46 | Zagor | no idea |
| 10:25:02 | Zagor | that's 2.5GB into the disk |
| 10:25:25 | Zagor | the logical thing would be to seek to the first partition |
| 10:28:11 | Zagor | if off_t signed or unsigned? |
| 10:28:14 | Zagor | is |
| 10:29:20 | Bagder | I believe it is signed |
| 10:29:39 | Bagder | but 64 bits |
| 10:29:45 | Zagor | aha |
| 10:31:08 | Bagder | I wonder how it broke like this |
| 10:31:27 | Bagder | I noticed some hangs red-led style yday |
| 10:35:45 | Zagor | weird shuffle experience: my playlist has 9773 entries. 146 of them are songs by Toto. 7 of these are among the first 100 entries played shuffled. |
| 10:36:11 | Zagor | that's waaay more than random spread |
| 10:36:35 | Bagder | its the Rockbox Improved Random |
| 10:36:43 | Bagder | "better than random" ;-) |
| 10:36:57 | Bagder | Rockbox Shuffle |
| 10:37:00 | Bagder | no need for LCD! |
| 10:37:00 | Zagor | it would be random if I had 679 Toto songs... |
| 10:37:26 | kurzhaarrocker | Well - if you like Toto there's nothing to complain about... |
| 10:37:44 | Zagor | :) |
| 10:38:09 | DJ_Dooms_Day|AFK | Hey are we actually going to have true randomisation in rockbox? |
| 10:38:20 | Bagder | we already do |
| 10:38:21 | Zagor | define "true randomisation" |
| 10:38:30 | DJ_Dooms_Day|AFK | Yeah, i mean ' |
| 10:38:33 | DJ_Dooms_Day|AFK | ... |
| 10:38:38 | Bagder | it isn't cryptographically secure |
| 10:38:50 | Bagder | so don't build a crypto device out of it |
| 10:38:54 | Zagor | lol |
| 10:39:04 | DJ_Dooms_Day|AFK | i mean 'on the fly' randomisation, none of that 1 seeded random songs that pop up every time you turn it on and off |
| 10:39:26 | Bagder | DJ_Dooms_Day|AFK: rockbox does that, yes |
| 10:39:45 | Zagor | we've had it for years |
| 10:40:01 | DJ_Dooms_Day|AFK | grand |
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| 10:41:58 | bobTHC | hi noble ppl ! |
| 10:43:33 | Zagor | hi |
| 10:44:12 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Damn it, i demand someone gets grayscale working on the sim |
| 10:44:27 | Bagder | please do |
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| 10:47:15 | * | LinusN just committed RoLo for the iRiver |
| 10:47:50 | * | Bagder horrays |
| 10:48:10 | * | DJ_Dooms_Day wonders what RoLo is |
| 10:48:59 | dwihno | Really swell! Great work Linus! |
| 10:49:10 | kurzhaarrocker | Its a kind of candy: http://www.danol.is/vorumerki/logo/rolo.JPG |
| 10:49:43 | DJ_Dooms_Day | -_- |
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| 10:50:35 | kurzhaarrocker | DJ_Dooms_Day: what you were looking for is here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RoLo |
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| 10:51:35 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ShuffleExplained |
| 10:52:11 | DJ_Dooms_Day | nice |
| 10:52:13 | Bagder | freshly brewed |
| 10:53:59 | rasher | Excellent, RoLo |
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| 10:57:53 | rasher | although I'm not entirely sure in which situations you'd use it |
| 10:58:03 | Bagder | while developing mostly |
| 10:58:41 | rasher | mhm |
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| 11:18:04 | LinusN | it's mainly handy for developers |
| 11:18:45 | LinusN | especially the feature which automatically detects when the firmware file has been updated via usb, and asks if you want to run it |
| 11:18:58 | LinusN | speeds up developing |
| 11:20:03 | rasher | Ah, that sounds really handy indeed |
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| 11:50:38 | ashridah | so how does rolo avoid overwriting its own code anyway? |
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| 11:56:13 | preglow | rolo! |
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| 12:40:45 | LinusN | ashridah: it loads the code into the mp3 buffer, and then transfers it to the correct location with a short code snippet in internal ram |
| 12:45:20 | Bagder | how big fat is suitable when mkdosfs'ing? |
| 12:46:42 | ashridah | depends on whether you're storing lots of small files or few big ones. |
| 12:46:58 | Bagder | 80GB disk, some 7000 songs |
| 12:47:08 | ashridah | -F 32 |
| 12:47:28 | ashridah | no real choice for something that large |
| 12:54:04 | Bagder | hm |
| 12:54:35 | Bagder | dmesg and fdisk identify it as 80GB |
| 12:54:47 | Bagder | I mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sda1, then mount |
| 12:54:57 | Zagor | since average file size is very large, you can use large clusters |
| 12:55:08 | Bagder | df /mnt/archos |
| 12:55:08 | Bagder | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 12:55:08 | Bagder | /dev/sda1 1046516 4 1046512 1% /mnt/archos |
| 12:55:31 | Zagor | ?? |
| 12:55:44 | LinusN | dosfsck -v? |
| 12:56:03 | ashridah | Bagder: okay, the disk is 80GB, but is the first partition the entire disk? |
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| 12:56:21 | t0mas | hi |
| 12:56:24 | t0mas | LinusN? What's RoLo? |
| 12:56:39 | ashridah | t0mas: a development tool. |
| 12:57:26 | t0mas | oooh |
| 12:57:34 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ProjectGlossary |
| 12:57:35 | t0mas | that thing to load firmware from disk? by playing it? |
| 12:57:41 | LinusN | yes |
| 12:58:31 | t0mas | so I can put a new .iriver file on it via usb, and start it without rebooting? :) |
| 12:58:46 | LinusN | yes |
| 12:59:09 | t0mas | nice |
| 12:59:18 | Bagder | ashridah: it is |
| 12:59:54 | LinusN | Bagder: what does dosfsck -v say? |
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| 13:00:12 | ashridah | Bagder: cat /proc/partitions it should list the size of it and the disk in blocks or something |
| 13:01:31 | Bagder | Data area starts at byte 2109440 (sector 4120) |
| 13:01:31 | Bagder | 261629 data clusters (1071632384 bytes) |
| 13:01:46 | Bagder | is says a whole lot ;-) |
| 13:04:01 | LinusN | cluster size? |
| 13:04:20 | Bagder | 4096 bytes per cluster |
| 13:04:25 | LinusN | wow |
| 13:04:34 | LinusN | you should try larger clusters |
| 13:04:51 | LinusN | 32k or something |
| 13:06:07 | amiconn | hi |
| 13:06:13 | LinusN | hi |
| 13:06:44 | amiconn | LinusN: As you spoke about RLD earlier: I tested my Hitachi-equipped player for some time by using it in my car. |
| 13:06:58 | Bagder | unfortunately it doesn't make any difference |
| 13:07:04 | amiconn | It almost always dies with RLD from low bat |
| 13:07:07 | Bagder | except that the initial disk space used increases |
| 13:07:46 | Zagor | amiconn: hmm, in that case reboot the disk won't help much since it will just hang soon again, right? |
| 13:08:07 | amiconn | This is strange, because my recorder (IBM disk) doesn't do that. Instead it just tries to read, notices it doesn't work, then stop |
| 13:08:45 | * | Bagder tries -c |
| 13:09:01 | t0mas | ARG |
| 13:09:06 | amiconn | Zagor: Yes of course rebooting the disk doesn't help here. The question is, why does it hang (RLD ) with the Hitachi disk, while with other brands it doesn |
| 13:09:08 | amiconn | 'T |
| 13:09:14 | * | t0mas slaps stupid users with a large windows for dummy's book... |
| 13:09:40 | Zagor | I'm tempted to blame disk the firmware |
| 13:09:46 | t0mas | translated (whole message): I can't remove pinnacle liquid edition 5.5 via the software menu. |
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| 13:10:01 | t0mas | wtf should I do with this :X |
| 13:10:42 | amiconn | LinusN: You once mentioned alternate ata routines that may fix rld. Is there a patch somewhere? |
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| 13:10:58 | LinusN | it's in cvs |
| 13:12:06 | amiconn | Hmm, then it doesn't really help. Cvs is what I am running... |
| 13:14:54 | amiconn | Or maybe I overlooked some #define ? |
| 13:14:59 | LinusN | no |
| 13:19:32 | Zagor | guess it doesn't fix it, then ;) |
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| 13:21:04 | Zagor | perl gurus: what is the proper 'split' expression for splitting a buffer containing bunches of "<item>apa</item><item>bepa</item>" into one line per <item></item>? |
| 13:22:50 | Lynx_ | split /></ ;) |
| 13:23:07 | Bagder | Zagor: it might be easier to turn it into a while() that extracts one <item></item> from the string per lap |
| 13:23:12 | Zagor | nah, there are more tags inside the item |
| 13:23:46 | Zagor | Bagder: how do you mean "extract"? using substr to clean off the earlier matches? |
| 13:24:00 | Bagder | s/<[^>]+>([^<]*)<\/[^>]+>// |
| 13:24:04 | Zagor | uh, no. regex can do that right,. |
| 13:24:13 | Lynx_ | then just /</item/ |
| 13:24:15 | Zagor | yeah, that's better |
| 13:24:18 | Lynx_ | then just /</item>/ |
| 13:24:51 | Bagder | I need a new cup of coffee to get a grip of my disk problem... |
| 13:25:40 | kurzhaarrocker | you can't fix hds by drowning them in coffe |
| 13:25:51 | Zagor | Lynx_: good point, I don't really need the end tag so I can just split it off |
| 13:26:53 | Zagor | kurzhaarrocker: no he soaks his hands in it, for better grip |
| 13:27:13 | kurzhaarrocker | ah. I'll try that someday. |
| 13:27:31 | Zagor | sugar is the key ;) |
| 13:27:33 | Lynx_ | that must give yellow fingernails... |
| 13:27:39 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
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| 14:21:13 | HCl | hello |
| 14:22:46 | t0mas | hi |
| 14:23:22 | HCl | sup? |
| 14:24:08 | LinusN | HCl: i was looking at the sound generation in gnuboy |
| 14:24:16 | HCl | mm? |
| 14:24:28 | LinusN | how often is sound_mix() called? |
| 14:24:45 | HCl | every cpu cycle, i believe, let me check |
| 14:25:04 | HCl | i also obtained an newer sound.c from the gnuboy developers the other day, that was never released |
| 14:25:11 | HCl | but he said it was slower |
| 14:25:50 | LinusN | how close to real time is gnuboy at the moment? |
| 14:26:19 | HCl | sound_mix is called right before pcm_submit, provided the pcm buffer doesn't get full |
| 14:26:23 | HCl | um. |
| 14:26:29 | HCl | i'm not sure |
| 14:26:35 | HCl | but with the current audio driver |
| 14:26:39 | HCl | if you disable screen updates |
| 14:26:42 | HCl | it plays smoothly |
| 14:26:53 | LinusN | ok |
| 14:27:40 | LinusN | so it's slower than realtime then |
| 14:29:10 | HCl | yea |
| 14:29:28 | HCl | because the way audio is arranged, we get little gaps in between |
| 14:29:53 | LinusN | pretty odd way of doing it btw |
| 14:30:26 | HCl | yea. |
| 14:30:38 | HCl | it was just the original gnuboy way of doing it |
| 14:30:52 | LinusN | we could tweak the sound driver a little |
| 14:31:04 | LinusN | so it doesn't wait until all samples are played |
| 14:31:07 | HCl | yea, but i don't really have any better ideas for it at the moment :/ |
| 14:31:15 | HCl | i think we already do that, though i'm not 100% sure about it |
| 14:31:19 | HCl | need to talk to xshock |
| 14:31:22 | LinusN | hmm, i see |
| 14:31:44 | LinusN | ah, yes we already do that, i see now |
| 14:32:03 | HCl | we don't allow c++ code.. right.. hm.. |
| 14:32:14 | LinusN | no, and no c++ comments either |
| 14:32:14 | * | HCl is taking a look at porting iripdb as a plugin to rockbox.. |
| 14:32:28 | HCl | yea, i try to not use them :x |
| 14:32:40 | Zagor | what's that? |
| 14:32:43 | LinusN | iripdb? |
| 14:32:55 | HCl | its a program that can build the song database of the original firmware |
| 14:33:35 | Zagor | you mean if you want to run the iriver firware but not let it create the db? |
| 14:33:50 | HCl | no, the iriver firmware can't create its own database at the moment, it needs a computer |
| 14:34:04 | HCl | we could get rockbox to update the iriver firmware's database without needing a computer |
| 14:34:23 | HCl | i'm not 100% sure how useful it would be, but there seemed at least 2 people who were interested in having an port to the iriver of it |
| 14:34:26 | Zagor | aha. well if you run rockbox, i would hope you don't want to run the iriver firmware anyway. but... have fun! :-) |
| 14:34:37 | HCl | yea |
| 14:35:05 | Bagder | reboot time |
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| 14:35:43 | HCl | only i'm having a problem in that the newer versions rely on an c++ library. so i might just skip the context entirely.. |
| 14:36:25 | HCl | heh o.o; |
| 14:36:27 | HCl | maybe. |
| 14:36:34 | HCl | i should just move on to a sega game gear emulator >.>; |
| 14:36:37 | Zagor | i don't understand what people would use it for, frankly. install rockbox just to run that plugin, but play music with the iriver firmware? |
| 14:37:25 | HCl | hm, nah, gamegear needs colors :/ |
| 14:37:38 | HCl | well, since rockbox doesn't play mp3 yet |
| 14:37:51 | HCl | and you simply can't create such a db without getting a comp, installing the software for it |
| 14:37:56 | HCl | and running it |
| 14:38:02 | HCl | it could have its uses |
| 14:38:50 | Zagor | yeah, for about two months, until we get mp3 working. seems a lot of spent energy for little gain... |
| 14:39:13 | Zagor | not that i'd dream of discouraging you... ;) |
| 14:39:48 | HCl | lol. |
| 14:40:05 | HCl | i guess |
| 14:40:06 | * | HCl yawns |
| 14:40:32 | HCl | rockboy isn't high on my priority list anymore since i reached my original goal.. |
| 14:40:45 | LinusN | which was? |
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| 14:40:54 | HCl | getting it playable |
| 14:40:58 | LinusN | ah |
| 14:42:22 | * | HCl goes to take a tiny peek at dumb, prods preglow |
| 14:44:13 | preglow | wut |
| 14:44:18 | preglow | ahh |
| 14:44:23 | preglow | i guess i could take a look at it now |
| 14:44:43 | preglow | i was planning to play cs for an hour, but this beats that |
| 14:47:12 | preglow | why have you commited the allegro routines? :> |
| 14:49:49 | preglow | HCl: have you tested the quality of dumb playback yet, btw? |
| 14:50:10 | HCl | i thought we were supposed to keep the source as original as possible |
| 14:50:34 | preglow | ahh, i didn't think that meant commiting files that would never be used :P |
| 14:50:36 | HCl | preglow: it can't play yet since it needs a couple of floats to be converted to ints.. |
| 14:50:49 | HCl | sorry... shall i remove them? |
| 14:50:54 | preglow | HCl: i meant on x86 or something |
| 14:51:02 | preglow | nah, keep them in for now |
| 14:51:12 | HCl | ahyea, let me find an test mod.. |
| 14:52:13 | * | HCl is lagging >.< |
| 14:54:59 | * | preglow tickles resample.c |
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| 14:57:03 | HCl | well, dumbout seems to work fine, just need to figure out how to play pcm files under windows |
| 14:57:26 | preglow | cooledit |
| 14:58:03 | HCl | yea |
| 14:58:06 | HCl | need to install that |
| 14:58:13 | HCl | gonna try winamp first |
| 14:58:17 | preglow | don't think winamp can |
| 14:58:26 | HCl | we'll see :x |
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| 15:00:10 | HCl | yea, winamp can't *gets cooledit* |
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| 15:00:37 | HCl | there's a nice dumbout example program that outputs 44100hz 16bit stereo |
| 15:00:56 | rasher | Dear freenode, plz to be stopping the "plz identify" spam - love, rasher |
| 15:01:20 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 15:01:21 | rasher | Oh well, at least it's only once. |
| 15:01:33 | preglow | i really dislike the fact that the mac instructions can do a parallell load, i feel obligated to code everythig in asm... |
| 15:01:44 | rasher | Haha |
| 15:01:49 | HCl | :p |
| 15:02:12 | preglow | if anyone knows a gcc internals guy who's feeling bored, have i'm query me |
| 15:02:21 | preglow | s/i'm/him/ |
| 15:03:02 | HCl | god i hate how smb crashes internet explorer if the computer isn't online |
| 15:03:22 | * | Bagder sighs. disk problem remains |
| 15:07:26 | preglow | but ok |
| 15:07:32 | preglow | the float volume should be a piece of cake |
| 15:07:42 | preglow | float delta might be worse |
| 15:09:03 | Lynx_ | preglow: try #gcc ;) |
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| 15:10:12 | preglow | i did, my request was met with half a days worth of silence |
| 15:10:30 | * | HCl loads the output of dumb into cooledit |
| 15:10:43 | HCl | wow. |
| 15:10:49 | HCl | either i got a bad example song |
| 15:10:54 | HCl | or the volume of it was way too loud |
| 15:10:54 | HCl | xD |
| 15:11:16 | HCl | sounds pretty good so far |
| 15:11:33 | HCl | no clicks, no static, no anything. |
| 15:11:34 | HCl | sounds great |
| 15:11:34 | HCl | o.o |
| 15:11:51 | HCl | ftp://titania.student.utwente.nl/gh-music.pcm |
| 15:11:57 | HCl | output of dumb |
| 15:12:32 | HCl | volume isn't as bad as i initially thought |
| 15:12:45 | preglow | mono 16 bit? |
| 15:12:47 | preglow | 44.1? |
| 15:12:51 | HCl | stereo |
| 15:12:53 | HCl | 16bit |
| 15:12:55 | HCl | 44.1 |
| 15:13:13 | preglow | ouch |
| 15:13:17 | preglow | clips like mad |
| 15:13:21 | HCl | huh? o.o |
| 15:13:39 | preglow | signal exceeds 16 bit limits |
| 15:13:40 | HCl | sounds fine here... |
| 15:13:52 | HCl | ? o.o |
| 15:14:02 | preglow | can hear it some places |
| 15:14:10 | preglow | but that's no problem, really |
| 15:14:14 | HCl | maybe the volume was too loud |
| 15:14:18 | HCl | it plays fine in cooledit |
| 15:14:26 | preglow | yes, it plays fine, the level is just a bit too loud |
| 15:14:29 | HCl | yea |
| 15:14:30 | preglow | could you send me the exe? |
| 15:14:33 | HCl | um. |
| 15:14:41 | HCl | i kind of ran it on my linux comp.. |
| 15:14:47 | preglow | ahh |
| 15:14:47 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 15:14:52 | preglow | didn't think of that |
| 15:16:05 | preglow | i've got a ton of mods i know how should sound, so i'll give it a spin |
| 15:16:11 | HCl | *nods* |
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| 15:19:19 | preglow | sounds good |
| 15:19:26 | HCl | :) |
| 15:22:24 | preglow | not perfect, but nothing is |
| 15:23:43 | preglow | with the notable exception of the trackers themselves |
| 15:24:53 | HCl | mmm. |
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| 15:29:48 | Bagder | hey hey |
| 15:29:53 | Bagder | I swissknifed it |
| 15:29:59 | Bagder | now its big |
| 15:30:08 | Bagder | but watch this |
| 15:30:17 | Bagder | df /mnt/archos |
| 15:30:17 | Bagder | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 15:30:17 | Bagder | /dev/sda1 78120992 -590295810358705632640 78140064 101% /mnt/archos |
| 15:30:23 | Bagder | :-O |
| 15:30:25 | HCl | xD |
| 15:30:34 | thegeek | aaah, sweetness, just got my warranty replacement h120 |
| 15:30:37 | thegeek | supahsmooth |
| 15:30:38 | Bagder | there's a lot of space I don't use |
| 15:30:56 | ashridah | thegeek: what prompted the warranty replacement? |
| 15:30:59 | thegeek | hehe |
| 15:31:01 | thegeek | I cracked my screen |
| 15:31:06 | ashridah | ouch |
| 15:31:09 | thegeek | then I kept bugging them about it |
| 15:31:11 | thegeek | so I got an rma |
| 15:31:12 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:31:12 | thegeek | hehe |
| 15:31:16 | thegeek | actually |
| 15:31:21 | thegeek | I only cracked the outer display |
| 15:31:23 | thegeek | the case |
| 15:31:27 | thegeek | not the display itself |
| 15:31:32 | ashridah | bah. mine had a legimate fault. |
| 15:31:36 | ashridah | legitimate even |
| 15:31:37 | thegeek | but it's impossible to get just the outer shell |
| 15:31:41 | thegeek | since iriver rma's everything |
| 15:31:43 | thegeek | hehe |
| 15:31:49 | ashridah | darned thing used to not initialse properly if it was warm |
| 15:31:54 | thegeek | hehe |
| 15:31:55 | thegeek | fun |
| 15:31:57 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:31:57 | ashridah | but i replaced mine at the store i bought it at |
| 15:32:05 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:32:06 | thegeek | gah |
| 15:32:08 | ashridah | replacement worked fine, has done so for a year now |
| 15:32:18 | thegeek | but this sucks |
| 15:32:29 | thegeek | first my h120 is sent in for replacement |
| 15:32:36 | thegeek | and while it is beeing replaced |
| 15:32:52 | thegeek | my E3's right earphone gets b0rked |
| 15:33:00 | preglow | thegeek: did you contact iriver themselves or do it through the store? |
| 15:33:10 | thegeek | so I just was at the postoffice getting the h120, and sending of the earphones |
| 15:33:16 | thegeek | I contacted iriver america |
| 15:33:19 | thegeek | I live in Norway |
| 15:33:23 | preglow | yes, as do i |
| 15:33:28 | thegeek | norway/europe would not fix it |
| 15:33:33 | thegeek | since I bought it on ebay usa |
| 15:33:46 | thegeek | and thus had a serial from usa |
| 15:33:49 | thegeek | gargh |
| 15:33:51 | preglow | ahh |
| 15:34:06 | thegeek | It will probably be another 4 weeks before I can use both my shure e3 and the h120 |
| 15:34:10 | thegeek | ;/ |
| 15:34:14 | preglow | i've got a friend who had his gf fry his player with a mobile charger |
| 15:34:20 | thegeek | yeah |
| 15:34:28 | thegeek | I think that is a common problem;) |
| 15:35:16 | ashridah | preglow: i've heard of that one. almost did it myself, stopped myself within millimeters of plugging it in |
| 15:35:40 | ashridah | now i keep the two WELL away from each other so the mistake can't be easily made |
| 15:35:51 | preglow | it's physically impossible to do that with my charger |
| 15:36:33 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:36:39 | ashridah | phone charger you mean? |
| 15:37:16 | preglow | yes |
| 15:37:29 | ashridah | handy |
| 15:37:32 | ashridah | bloody nokia |
| 15:37:37 | thegeek | same here;) |
| 15:37:38 | thegeek | siemens |
| 15:38:52 | thegeek | HCl : the .hex you have on your ftp, what bootloader is it and what firmware ver? |
| 15:40:00 | Bagder | pain |
| 15:40:47 | ashridah | Bagder: that a general statement there, or just a friendly guesture of warmth? |
| 15:41:01 | Bagder | just expressing my current emotion |
| 15:41:09 | thegeek | I don't think Bagder likes HCl distributing .hex's |
| 15:41:09 | thegeek | ? |
| 15:41:10 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:41:11 | ashridah | ah. know the feeling. |
| 15:41:33 | * | Bagder runs off |
| 15:41:42 | amiconn | bah |
| 15:41:51 | amiconn | Linus went. :( |
| 15:42:51 | thegeek | hmm, could someone explain just exactly what it means that rolo works on iriver? |
| 15:43:04 | thegeek | rolo is the rockbox loader |
| 15:43:36 | thegeek | so you can load a new rockbox from an .iriver file from withing rockbox? |
| 15:43:38 | ashridah | should have called it rorelo or something, rockbox REloader. |
| 15:43:43 | thegeek | yeah |
| 15:43:46 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:43:52 | thegeek | but if that is what it does |
| 15:43:55 | thegeek | it's supahgreat |
| 15:44:33 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RoLo |
| 15:45:27 | thegeek | yes I know |
| 15:45:45 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:51:22 | preglow | yes, and it detects an updated firmware file |
| 15:51:26 | preglow | and ask if you want to reboot |
| 15:51:28 | preglow | which rocks |
| 15:51:45 | Bagder | it doesn't reboot, it loads it |
| 15:51:51 | Bagder | and runs it |
| 15:51:59 | preglow | ahh, yes, more or less equivalent .P |
| 15:52:02 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:52:16 | Bagder | true, but this way is faster than reboot |
| 15:52:27 | preglow | indeed |
| 15:56:08 | preglow | HCl: have you made a test plugin yet? |
| 15:56:25 | HCl | um, not yet.. since it wasn't without floats yet |
| 15:56:27 | HCl | shall i? |
| 15:56:37 | preglow | well, yes, it'd be helpful to have a test bed |
| 15:56:41 | HCl | *nods* |
| 15:56:43 | preglow | i need to be able to see if my code works |
| 15:56:43 | HCl | okies |
| 15:56:51 | HCl | yes sir, i'll get right on it sir! |
| 15:56:52 | HCl | xD |
| 15:56:55 | preglow | hahaha |
| 15:56:58 | HCl | *hops off* |
| 15:57:14 | preglow | in the mean time i'll blow the dust off my bike and have take it for a spin in the sun |
| 15:59:22 | * | HCl tries to find an example |
| 15:59:29 | HCl | i'll just take dumbout and add a wav header to it |
| 15:59:37 | HCl | its just that i don't know how to write a wav header |
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| 16:00:30 | rasher | xxx2wav.c ? |
| 16:00:36 | * | rasher is guessing |
| 16:01:01 | rasher | that should be creating a wav header I guess |
| 16:01:32 | HCl | yea |
| 16:01:35 | HCl | i'm looking at it |
| 16:03:58 | rasher | \o/ |
| 16:04:33 | * | rasher creates unspeakable horror |
| 16:05:15 | rasher | looking up album release years by querying the freedb web-interface |
| 16:17:09 | thegeek | HCl : the .hex you have on your ftp, what bootloader is it and what firmware ver? |
| 16:17:54 | Bagder | flash it and check the info screen! ;-) |
| 16:19:31 | thegeek | hehehe |
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| 16:29:57 | t0mas | anybody with a german keyboard here? |
| 16:30:17 | amiconn | yup |
| 16:30:35 | t0mas | where is your / located? |
| 16:31:01 | t0mas | (I have a friend on the phone... with a german knoppix disk :)) |
| 16:31:17 | amiconn | Shift+7 |
| 16:32:09 | t0mas | tnx |
| 16:32:13 | Bagder | t0mas: where's your / located? |
| 16:32:21 | Bagder | don't you have it there too? |
| 16:32:26 | t0mas | nope... |
| 16:32:37 | t0mas | I have a US international keyboard... |
| 16:32:41 | Bagder | ahaa |
| 16:32:49 | t0mas | my / is nect to the shift... together with the ? |
| 16:32:57 | t0mas | s/nect/next |
| 16:34:57 | amiconn | http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/keyboards.aspx (Only works on IE) |
| 16:35:48 | t0mas | yeah |
| 16:36:29 | t0mas | I have the US english in that list |
| 16:37:56 | amiconn | http://www.terena.nl/library/multiling/ml-mua/test/kbd-all.html :) |
| 16:43:37 | HCl | thegeek: md5sum it |
| 16:45:47 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 16:45:48 | t0mas | good idea |
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| 16:52:14 | Lynx_ | t0mas: german / is shift 7 |
| 16:52:25 | t0mas | yes, it worked :) |
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| 17:00:46 | HCl | igh, actually preglow, i'm not very good at this :/ |
| 17:01:24 | preglow | no? |
| 17:02:37 | HCl | dumbout isn't very readable, and its using floats too x.x |
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| 17:04:59 | rasher | HCl: for future reference, the hex on your ftp is 1.63eu and 11/02 bootloader |
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| 17:05:18 | Tang | Hi Rbx :) |
| 17:05:21 | HCl | kay |
| 17:05:24 | preglow | elo |
| 17:05:31 | Tang | Hello HCl preglow |
| 17:05:32 | Tang | :) |
| 17:05:34 | HCl | hi |
| 17:05:44 | Tang | just seen Linus comaback |
| 17:05:48 | Tang | comeback |
| 17:05:58 | Tang | very cool |
| 17:05:59 | Tang | :) |
| 17:06:04 | Tang | bravo :) |
| 17:06:15 | Tang | is there a wiki section about Rolo? |
| 17:06:34 | Tang | (for iRiver port) |
| 17:06:36 | Tang | ? |
| 17:06:37 | Tang | :) |
| 17:06:45 | Tang | or is it non specific, |
| 17:06:47 | Tang | :) |
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| 17:07:17 | preglow | HCl: doesn't 68k-gcc emulate floats if you leave them in? |
| 17:07:26 | preglow | Tang: there is |
| 17:07:31 | preglow | Tang: wiki-section about rolo, that is |
| 17:07:39 | HCl | preglow: it should, but i'm not entirely sure |
| 17:07:42 | preglow | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RoLo |
| 17:07:52 | Tang | Thanks preglow :) |
| 17:08:34 | Tang | okay i see |
| 17:08:36 | Tang | cool |
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| 17:08:57 | Tang | can load the grey version for rboy or usual for other :) |
| 17:09:21 | preglow | heh |
| 17:09:25 | preglow | it's mostly for developers |
| 17:09:26 | HCl | lol, i guess. |
| 17:09:37 | preglow | so we don't have to reboot manually every time we change something |
| 17:11:13 | Tang | Eh lol |
| 17:11:17 | Tang | yes i guess |
| 17:11:28 | Tang | but Rockboy is cool for others :) |
| 17:11:37 | Tang | but bugs are annoying |
| 17:11:55 | Tang | so i imagine the Rolo should be helpfull for others too |
| 17:11:56 | Tang | :) |
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| 17:13:08 | Tang | Anyway it's cool to see Linus again |
| 17:13:34 | Tang | i wish things are better for him at personnal part$ |
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| 17:16:34 | Shebb | Hi. I have started to work with the plugin interface |
| 17:17:04 | Shebb | I want to use the play button as a modifier key since it is independant |
| 17:17:05 | t0mas | hi |
| 17:17:24 | Shebb | And I was wondering if there is a built in way to do it. |
| 17:17:27 | rasher | Shebb: try looking at something like solitaire.c |
| 17:17:34 | Shebb | ok |
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| 17:18:58 | Rick | what is RoLo? |
| 17:19:09 | t0mas | RockboxLoader |
| 17:19:14 | t0mas | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RoLo |
| 17:19:19 | Rick | ah |
| 17:19:45 | t0mas | load's a new firmware version from disk... without rebooting |
| 17:20:05 | Rick | that's handy |
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| 17:28:44 | t0mas | hmz... |
| 17:28:45 | t0mas | preglow? |
| 17:28:54 | t0mas | about that malloc() thing... |
| 17:29:02 | t0mas | HCl wrote something for rockboy... |
| 17:29:11 | t0mas | void *my_malloc(size_t size) |
| 17:31:59 | preglow | what is this malloc for? |
| 17:32:01 | preglow | a bmp loader? |
| 17:32:16 | t0mas | yes |
| 17:32:29 | preglow | rockboy uses the mp3 buffer |
| 17:32:32 | preglow | for malloc |
| 17:32:32 | t0mas | yes |
| 17:33:33 | preglow | i don't think that's very clever for other plugins |
| 17:34:35 | preglow | rockboy will probably never run while rockbox is playing music, due to cpu demand |
| 17:34:41 | preglow | all other pluings just might do this |
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| 17:35:27 | Guest2246597 | hmm |
| 17:35:28 | Guest2246597 | gargh |
| 17:35:36 | | Nick Guest2246597 is now known as thegeek (na@ti521110a080-4599.bb.online.no) |
| 17:35:53 | thegeek | hmm |
| 17:36:03 | thegeek | I'm trying to compile using cyborg's devkit |
| 17:36:13 | thegeek | but after doing rbconf |
| 17:36:15 | thegeek | and then make |
| 17:36:20 | thegeek | my computer locks up |
| 17:36:26 | thegeek | and it's not the added strain of compiling |
| 17:36:43 | thegeek | because I compile a lot of stuff |
| 17:36:55 | thegeek | it's not the temperature right now either |
| 17:37:01 | thegeek | low temp on the cpu |
| 17:37:08 | thegeek | when I open taskmanager |
| 17:37:15 | thegeek | it seems that make goes into a loop |
| 17:37:23 | thegeek | it just fork's a LOT of make's |
| 17:37:57 | thegeek | and after a while the cygwin window slowly prints vfork errors by mae |
| 17:37:58 | thegeek | *make |
| 17:38:51 | preglow | ahhh, the pleasure of never touching cygwin |
| 17:38:55 | thegeek | ;) |
| 17:39:09 | thegeek | I should install me some of that linux stuff;) |
| 17:39:11 | thegeek | hehe |
| 17:39:24 | thegeek | I mainly use linux for serverstuff |
| 17:39:35 | thegeek | but I'm starting to feel the need for some linux powah yeah |
| 17:40:45 | thegeek | rasher : the hex on hcl's ftp is good? |
| 17:40:51 | thegeek | as in |
| 17:40:59 | thegeek | someone has it running on their iriver;) |
| 17:41:03 | rasher | thegeek: didn't try it, but it matches a md5sum in the table |
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| 17:41:12 | thegeek | kk |
| 17:45:52 | thegeek | iRiver, Catch the digital flow!.mp3 |
| 17:45:53 | thegeek | yay |
| 17:45:56 | thegeek | brand new iriver;) |
| 17:47:16 | thegeek | time to flash |
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| 17:47:59 | t0mas | lol |
| 17:48:28 | t0mas | first thing to do to a newly replaced player... risk breaking it with a thirdparty firmware :P |
| 17:49:00 | thegeek | hehe |
| 17:49:02 | thegeek | indeed |
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| 17:49:21 | thegeek | success! |
| 17:49:21 | thegeek | ;) |
| 17:50:30 | Tang | hum not sure of sthg |
| 17:51:35 | thegeek | there |
| 17:51:42 | thegeek | and some rockboy powah.. |
| 17:52:55 | Rick | lol |
| 17:54:10 | Tang | Sorry about what i said for Linus |
| 17:54:38 | Tang | i thought things weren't so sad |
| 17:54:39 | Tang | :( |
| 17:55:15 | Tang | (jus read Linus post at MR, i wasn't very aware of this, just got some echoes) |
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| 17:56:02 | Rick | I wish the mailing list was prefixed with [Rockbox] |
| 17:56:04 | Rick | or something similar |
| 17:58:03 | preglow | sounds like a good idea |
| 17:58:09 | preglow | all my other lists are |
| 17:58:12 | bobTHC | it's always from the same rockbox@cool.haxx.se |
| 17:58:24 | bobTHC | in cc |
| 17:58:43 | bobTHC | so just make the filter on the header and not on subject |
| 17:59:09 | thegeek | yeah |
| 17:59:12 | thegeek | that's what I do |
| 17:59:35 | thegeek | hmm, why won't the gameboy rom's show up in rockbox? |
| 17:59:51 | Rick | go to options |
| 17:59:56 | Rick | file view |
| 17:59:58 | bobTHC | view all |
| 17:59:58 | Rick | change to supported |
| 17:59:59 | thegeek | k |
| 17:59:59 | thegeek | ;) |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:00 | thegeek | thanks |
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| 18:00:22 | mirak | hi |
| 18:00:24 | thegeek | sh |
| 18:00:25 | thegeek | smooth |
| 18:03:17 | thegeek | is the different lcd modes implemented, and if so, what button is it mapped to? |
| 18:05:42 | Rick | thegeek: what do you mean? |
| 18:05:46 | Rick | try doing the hold button |
| 18:05:49 | thegeek | for rockboy |
| 18:05:50 | Rick | is that what you mean? |
| 18:05:53 | thegeek | k |
| 18:05:56 | thegeek | ah |
| 18:05:56 | thegeek | ;) |
| 18:06:22 | preglow | HCl: i assume the way we'll go about this is just replacing all floats with ints? |
| 18:06:46 | Rick | preglow: watcha working on? |
| 18:06:50 | preglow | Rick: dumb |
| 18:06:52 | Rick | ah |
| 18:06:55 | thegeek | hehe |
| 18:06:59 | preglow | removing floating point |
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| 18:08:45 | MoosCamaro | Hello all |
| 18:09:21 | t0mas | hi |
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| 18:12:40 | thegeek | hmm, excuse me for all the noobish questions, but how do I load the org. firmware again? |
| 18:13:47 | t0mas | keep record button pressed when starting |
| 18:14:01 | lolo-laptop | has anyone started in on H3x0 support yet? |
| 18:14:02 | thegeek | hmm |
| 18:14:03 | thegeek | wierd |
| 18:14:06 | thegeek | I'm doing just that |
| 18:14:15 | thegeek | ah |
| 18:14:17 | thegeek | ;) |
| 18:14:24 | preglow | lolo-laptop: no |
| 18:14:26 | t0mas | lolo-laptop: no |
| 18:14:44 | lolo-laptop | oh well :-P |
| 18:15:36 | Shebb | The H100 sim seems to need one fix... |
| 18:15:42 | Rick | what fix? |
| 18:15:44 | Rick | no fix? |
| 18:15:44 | Rick | ;P |
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| 18:21:53 | mirak | what is a good place to start developement and understanding of rockbox ? |
| 18:22:07 | preglow | i take it you know c? |
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| 18:22:48 | mirak | lol |
| 18:23:02 | mirak | no I only know logo programming |
| 18:23:14 | preglow | then learn c |
| 18:23:15 | preglow | heh |
| 18:23:17 | preglow | that's a must |
| 18:23:18 | mirak | I know c yes |
| 18:23:20 | mirak | I am kidding |
| 18:23:20 | preglow | :-) |
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| 18:23:46 | preglow | dunno, read code, try writing some plugings |
| 18:24:11 | mirak | I need to know about the architecture |
| 18:24:15 | mirak | I will dig that |
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| 18:24:33 | mirak | anyone tried to ask iriver the spec of the Hx00 ? |
| 18:24:42 | mirak | just tried |
| 18:24:54 | mirak | what do they think of such a project ? |
| 18:24:54 | preglow | hx00 ? |
| 18:25:00 | mirak | H100 and H300 |
| 18:25:02 | preglow | we have the specs |
| 18:25:17 | mirak | from iriver ? |
| 18:25:18 | preglow | iriver are probably ok with us, but won't help us either |
| 18:25:20 | preglow | no |
| 18:25:24 | mirak | ok |
| 18:26:13 | preglow | but we've got more or less all the specs we need |
| 18:26:39 | Shebb | The H100 Sim for windows has one bug. If I hold play (+) then press a direction key everything functions correctly the first time. If I remain holding play then press a direction key again then it acts as if only a direction key has been pressed. |
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| 18:53:57 | HCl | preglow: yup |
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| 19:04:59 | preglow | hrmf |
| 19:08:07 | preglow | rather more floating point than i'd hoped |
| 19:12:47 | preglow | a curse unto motorola and their idiotic accumulators |
| 19:12:49 | preglow | i will kill them |
| 19:12:57 | * | HCl hands preglow a chainsaw |
| 19:13:08 | * | HCl buys him a ticket to the motorola hq |
| 19:13:11 | HCl | have fun :3 |
| 19:13:39 | preglow | having the accumulators be in registers gcc doesn't know about makes things so mindnumbingly elegant |
| 19:14:39 | thegeek | argh, I really need to do a winreinstall and gentoo setup on my machine, but... I just can't be bothered |
| 19:14:52 | thegeek | I wish my pc was superintelligent and could do it for me |
| 19:14:52 | thegeek | ;) |
| 19:25:46 | t0mas | yeah, would be nice |
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| 19:28:48 | mirak | hi |
| 19:28:52 | t0mas | hi |
| 19:28:53 | mirak | anyone use debia here ? |
| 19:28:57 | mirak | debian |
| 19:28:57 | t0mas | me |
| 19:29:11 | mirak | is coldfire included in latest binutils ? |
| 19:29:21 | t0mas | hm... never tested that... |
| 19:29:24 | mirak | or not, as it's said on the rockbox site |
| 19:29:27 | t0mas | but I don't think it's in stable |
| 19:29:30 | mirak | you have an archos ? |
| 19:29:34 | mirak | I am on unstable |
| 19:29:37 | t0mas | ah... |
| 19:29:40 | t0mas | I use stable... |
| 19:29:45 | t0mas | but haven't even tryed |
| 19:29:49 | mirak | testing or stable ? |
| 19:30:08 | t0mas | stable |
| 19:30:13 | mirak | lol |
| 19:30:24 | mirak | ahahah -> t0mas |
| 19:30:27 | mirak | ;) |
| 19:30:36 | t0mas | ghehe... it's a server box... |
| 19:30:39 | mirak | well stable is a bit to much conservative |
| 19:30:41 | t0mas | so why use unstable? |
| 19:30:52 | mirak | because that's still stable enough |
| 19:31:01 | mirak | for a personal server |
| 19:31:02 | t0mas | for servers I always use stable... and compile apache, php and mysql myself... |
| 19:31:14 | mirak | ah |
| 19:31:14 | t0mas | or use backports.org |
| 19:31:34 | t0mas | for my workstation I use winXP and LFS... |
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| 19:36:58 | preglow | linus mentioned binutils would release soon |
| 19:37:02 | preglow | don't know if it's happened |
| 19:37:08 | Shebb | What is the best way to emulate the timer for the sim? |
| 19:37:29 | t0mas | what timer? |
| 19:37:58 | Shebb | for instance the one used by plugin_register_timer |
| 19:38:15 | Shebb | This will not run on the sim |
| 19:38:33 | Shebb | And I cannot remember the accurate timer function for GCC |
| 19:39:35 | Shebb | or how to access the ticks... it is a little different on VC++ |
| 19:40:14 | t0mas | oh.. didn't know the sim had no working timer |
| 19:41:17 | Shebb | Unfortunately it is defined out since it is probably hardware specific |
| 19:41:25 | amiconn | The tick timer is working in the sim. Only the additional timer isn't available |
| 19:41:52 | Shebb | How accurate is the tick timer to? |
| 19:42:10 | amiconn | One tick is 10 ms |
| 19:42:54 | amiconn | I expect it to be somewhat imprecise in the sims, but you should get 100 ticks/sec |
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| 19:43:11 | Shebb | Is it the one used in stopwatch? If it is I do not think it is functional. |
| 19:43:31 | amiconn | It is used in the stopwatch, and is working in the sims |
| 19:43:43 | amiconn | ...at least all sims I tried |
| 19:43:43 | Shebb | Stopwatch just displays 0:00:00.00 for me in the windows H100 sim |
| 19:44:01 | amiconn | Yeah... you need to start it of course |
| 19:44:39 | Shebb | damn it! Got confused from the real thing to the sim! |
| 19:44:59 | Shebb | Please forgive my stupidity! :( |
| 19:45:31 | Tang | if you see linus |
| 19:45:45 | amiconn | I did quite some simulator work, and it works for me on (1) win32, compiled under cygwin (2) cygwin x11 (3) debian |
| 19:46:00 | Tang | tell him my best regards |
| 19:46:09 | Tang | thanks |
| 19:46:14 | Tang | i go |
| 19:46:20 | t0mas | bye |
| 19:46:21 | Tang | cheers all :) |
| 19:46:25 | Tang | bye tomas |
| 19:46:29 | Shebb | bye |
| 19:46:39 | Tang | bye sheb and erveyone |
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| 19:47:50 | preglow | stopwatch works nicely here |
| 19:59:59 | Shebb | No no, the only problem was me not figuring out how to press '5' |
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| 20:15:32 | t0mas | is there an open with option? |
| 20:15:45 | t0mas | I have a file I want to open with the textviewer |
| 20:16:21 | t0mas | but it has no extension |
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| 20:32:28 | kowalsky | hi everyone! |
| 20:33:36 | kowalsky | I am looking for <mst>, does anyone know how to catch him? |
| 20:33:49 | HCl | mst? |
| 20:33:55 | kowalsky | yes |
| 20:34:00 | HCl | full name? |
| 20:35:02 | kowalsky | I do not know, I just have found yours chat from 28.03., I mean between you and hin (her?) about s1 mp3 player |
| 20:35:21 | HCl | mk |
| 20:35:29 | HCl | well, i dunno when he/she is around |
| 20:36:00 | kowalsky | oh, ok thx anyway |
| 20:36:34 | kowalsky | but maybe you know someone who has such device? |
| 20:36:47 | HCl | s1 mp3 player? |
| 20:36:49 | HCl | never heard of it.. |
| 20:38:12 | kowalsky | actually it is some kind of "nickname" used by manufacturers |
| 20:38:21 | kowalsky | it has atj2085 inside |
| 20:38:37 | kowalsky | a copy of sigmatel chip |
| 20:40:44 | t0mas | HCl? |
| 20:40:57 | t0mas | do you have any idea on optimizing rockbox? |
| 20:41:15 | HCl | i assume you mean rockboy? |
| 20:41:21 | t0mas | oh sorry |
| 20:41:22 | t0mas | yes |
| 20:41:32 | HCl | there are pretty much 2 plans to optimize it |
| 20:41:39 | HCl | eventually they should work together |
| 20:41:47 | t0mas | are they in wiki? |
| 20:41:52 | t0mas | or in some irc log? |
| 20:42:07 | HCl | wiki |
| 20:42:09 | HCl | pluginrockboy |
| 20:45:39 | t0mas | hmm |
| 20:45:45 | t0mas | can you explain some more of it? |
| 20:46:04 | HCl | pretty much, the dynarec and assembly cpu core should speed it up |
| 20:46:08 | HCl | but dynarec isn't finished |
| 20:46:13 | HCl | and assembly cpu core isn't started |
| 20:46:27 | t0mas | assembly cpu core is a lot of work right? |
| 20:46:31 | HCl | sortof |
| 20:46:41 | t0mas | and what's dynarec? |
| 20:46:47 | HCl | dynamic recompilation |
| 20:47:21 | t0mas | yeah, but what does it do? |
| 20:47:36 | HCl | recompile gameboy instructions into blocks of m68 code |
| 20:47:49 | t0mas | hmz... before you con something? |
| 20:47:54 | HCl | ? |
| 20:47:57 | t0mas | s/con/run |
| 20:48:10 | t0mas | (don't know how I did that ;)) |
| 20:48:13 | HCl | mhm |
| 20:48:20 | HCl | i was just about to say |
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| 20:49:50 | thegeek | btw HCl, have you given up on the dynarec core? |
| 20:49:55 | HCl | no |
| 20:50:00 | HCl | but its not high on my priority list at all |
| 20:50:06 | thegeek | ah |
| 20:50:06 | thegeek | ;) |
| 20:50:28 | kowal_sky | do you that stuff? http://www.xundu.com/english/product.asp?Mtype=1&MStype=5&pid=767 |
| 20:51:09 | t0mas | do what? |
| 20:51:31 | kowal_sky | do you KNOW , I am sorry :D |
| 20:51:51 | t0mas | I don't know it.... |
| 20:52:26 | kowal_sky | I have killed it, I am afraid |
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| 21:23:49 | t0mas | LOL |
| 21:23:50 | t0mas | http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=752467 |
| 21:23:59 | t0mas | Doom as a systemadministration tool |
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| 21:27:15 | XShocK | hi all |
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| 21:46:06 | t0mas | hi XShocK |
| 21:46:27 | XShocK | hi |
| 21:46:59 | HCl | hey |
| 21:59:03 | XShocK | when i try to mount a disk in linux it says it is busy or mounted, while "mount" does not say anything about it. |
| 21:59:17 | XShocK | how can that be? |
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| 22:10:38 | HCl | dunno |
| 22:15:16 | t0mas | mountpoint busy? |
| 22:15:20 | t0mas | (maybe?) |
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| 22:20:07 | * | t0mas is going to bed |
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| 22:20:25 | XShocK | don't really know |
| 22:21:05 | XShocK | in mount is does not say anything about that disk. actually i have two disks and none on those two can mount |
| 22:22:13 | XShocK | both are connected to one controller ata 133 . while SATA 150 and another controller ata 100 work perfectly |
| 22:22:59 | XShocK | it might be a driver problem.. but it sees those drives, and can see partitions on them, so i conclude it can read it, and driver works normally. |
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| 22:44:15 | muesli- | g'day mates |
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| 22:52:36 | * | muesli- kauft ein zweites hirn ^^ |
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| 22:55:16 | muz | hey does anyone have the iriverify plugin compiled? |
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| 23:15:25 | Shebb | hi |
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| 23:16:11 | XShocK | hi Shebb |
| 23:18:02 | Shebb | Does anyone here know about getting audio into a plugin? |
| 23:18:40 | Shebb | I have built a step sequencer and I would like to add a simple oscillator to it. |
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| 23:19:27 | XShocK | if you tak about audio support in plugin it works for iriver. |
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| 23:20:18 | Shebb | yeah? |
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| 23:20:26 | Shebb | I know it is does in rockboy |
| 23:20:52 | Shebb | I checked the example there but it is hard to pick up from there. |
| 23:22:41 | XShocK | sound data should be stereo 16-bit. |
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| 23:23:00 | XShocK | you can set frequency to 11025,22050, and 44100 hz |
| 23:24:30 | Shebb | Which functions are used? mp3_play_data? |
| 23:24:58 | Shebb | no |
| 23:25:05 | Shebb | That is for the archos I guess... |
| 23:25:23 | XShocK | pcm_data_play |
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| 23:26:07 | XShocK | everything mp3_* is archos, everything pcm_* is iriver |
| 23:26:14 | Shebb | right, thanks! I shall see if I get anywhere... |
| 23:26:45 | XShocK | you are welcome |
| 23:28:00 | XShocK | does anybody know of any "complete" implementations of NTFS in linux? with writing capabilities |
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| 23:29:33 | Bagder | XShocK: there is none afaik |
| 23:29:45 | Bagder | but there is one that uses some win dlls to achive it |
| 23:30:42 | Bagder | http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
| 23:30:55 | XShocK | thanks. looking at it |
| 23:31:26 | XShocK | sounds good. :) |
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| 23:40:57 | HCl | i checked that the other day, it seemed out of date :/ |
| 23:47:51 | thegeek | puh |
| 23:47:58 | thegeek | installed watercooling |
| 23:48:11 | thegeek | filling/bleeding it was hell |
| 23:48:25 | thegeek | getting damn good temps though |
| 23:48:54 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/doom/ |
| 23:48:55 | XShocK | a big our of date.. begining of 2004. :) |
| 23:48:58 | Bagder | good old one |
| 23:49:17 | XShocK | but if it works then i don't care as long as it does not erase all my data. :) |
| 23:50:59 | XShocK | :))) |
| 23:51:34 | XShocK | but doom is actually possible to port to iriver. |
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| 23:51:47 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:51:56 | Bagder | that takes a little edge off the joke ;-) |
| 23:52:32 | XShocK | if wolfenstein 3d was ported to a TI-83 calculator with 8 mhz processor |
| 23:52:40 | XShocK | and it runs pretty fast |
| 23:54:32 | Bagder | I added the weird text in the bottom, below the fake pic to make it a little easier |
| 23:54:52 | Bagder | still hundreds of people downloaded it |
| 23:55:22 | XShocK | :) |
| 23:55:22 | Bagder | I guess some did it even though they suspected it to be a joke |
| 23:55:52 | XShocK | i downloaded it, two times. :) |
| 23:56:08 | Bagder | check the source package |
| 23:57:27 | thegeek | hehe |
| 23:57:29 | XShocK | :) |
| 23:57:43 | XShocK | gotta go. see you guys. :) |
| 23:57:49 | * | Bagder waves |
| 23:58:03 | Bagder | I'm off to bed |
| 23:58:13 | | Quit XShocK ("I am going away") |
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