| 00:24:18 | rasher | http://rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/rockbox_lena.jpg .. yes, I am bored. |
| 00:24:53 | Bagder | :-) |
| 00:25:18 | rasher | Hi, Bagder |
| 00:25:22 | Bagder | evening |
| 00:25:36 | rasher | Question about the rockbox digest news-thingy you did once (that was you right?) |
| 00:25:39 | rasher | why did it stop? |
| 00:25:56 | Bagder | due to my lack of time |
| 00:26:04 | rasher | Thought so |
| 00:26:06 | rasher | shame :-\ |
| 00:26:48 | rasher | I'd totally do it if possible |
| 00:27:13 | Bagder | we could certainly arrange that |
| 00:28:21 | rasher | That'd be great.. the "news" on the front page is a bit.. lacking |
| 00:28:27 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:29:40 | Bagder | you have any particular ideas or suggestions on how you'd like to do it? |
| 00:30:27 | rasher | Not really.. any way it suits you really.. whatever's easiest |
| 00:31:18 | Bagder | I did the editing of it in a plain text file directly on the site |
| 00:31:32 | Bagder | and then I had a script that generated the html and the mail version of it |
| 00:31:39 | Bagder | oh, and the rss |
| 00:32:26 | preglow | what is/was the rockbox digest news-thingy? |
| 00:32:33 | rasher | news tidbits |
| 00:32:37 | preglow | aight |
| 00:32:37 | rasher | also available as rss |
| 00:32:44 | Bagder | see http://www.rockbox.org/digest/digest.html |
| 00:33:06 | preglow | rasher: so you're going to do a giga update now then? :P |
| 00:33:15 | rasher | 'fraid not |
| 00:33:30 | rasher | more like "pretend the last 1,5 years didn't happen |
| 00:33:33 | preglow | NEWS FLASH: ROCKBOX RUNS ON H1x= |
| 00:33:35 | preglow | heh |
| 00:34:05 | preglow | pretty quiet these days anyway |
| 00:34:13 | rasher | mostly |
| 00:34:28 | Bagder | well, it comes and goes |
| 00:34:33 | Bagder | always has |
| 00:34:51 | rasher | stuff like the bootloader tested with 1.65, trigger recording etc |
| 00:35:39 | elinenbe | HCl: I have a question for you... if you are here... how can I change the LCD mode in rockboy (from skipping every 9th line, to skipping bottom 16, to skipping top 16, etc... |
| 00:35:43 | Bagder | rasher: ok, I'll start with adding the existing stuff to the www CVS and you can check it out |
| 00:36:12 | preglow | elinenbe: hold button |
| 00:36:31 | preglow | elinenbe: or more like hold switch |
| 00:37:05 | rasher | Bagder: alright.. how are you suggesting this done? |
| 00:37:24 | rasher | (this = me putting news in some file on your server) |
| 00:37:30 | Bagder | well, if you feel like it, you can edit the files and commit them |
| 00:37:53 | Bagder | as the server updates from cvs automatically |
| 00:38:20 | rasher | ah, cvs access.. sounds like a reasonable way |
| 00:40:20 | Bagder | if you checkout/update the www module now, you'll find a 'digest' dir |
| 00:40:44 | rasher | I just started a checkout :) |
| 00:41:12 | Bagder | there's a bunch of useless crap in the www cvs... :-) |
| 00:41:20 | rasher | oh this'll take some time |
| 00:41:37 | Bagder | a great chance to excersize your bandwidth ;-) |
| 00:41:54 | Bagder | but of course, the server is only on 2mbit |
| 00:42:12 | rasher | that's fine, my connection is 256kbit |
| 00:42:56 | rasher | which is not at all fine |
| 00:42:56 | rasher | devcon pictures :D |
| 00:44:32 | elinenbe | preglow: thanks! |
| 00:45:02 | rasher | preglow, Bagder: remember who managed to boot the iriver firmware from within rockbox? |
| 00:47:04 | Bagder | ripnetuk I believe, George Styles |
| 00:53:52 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/now.html |
| 00:56:53 | preglow | another guy i haven't seen in a while |
| 00:57:05 | preglow | i wonder what became of linuxstb |
| 00:57:34 | amiconn | Bagder: If you have the plugin deps on your list, could you pls have a look at the simulator deps as well? |
| 00:57:54 | Bagder | right, I'll add them to the list |
| 00:58:14 | amiconn | I tried it myself, but failed :( |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:53 | amiconn | There are at least 2 problems: (1) the common simulator lib 'make' is called twice. One of these calls happens after linking the exe (!) (2) The dependencies for linking are wrong, so that certain changes (in the lib iirc) need 2 runs of 'make' to get them into the executable |
| 01:01:13 | Bagder | yeps, I've seen it too |
| 01:02:28 | amiconn | There's another suggestion that would save quite some time, especially on cygwin, but I don't know how hard that would be: |
| 01:03:20 | amiconn | For dirs that are not included in 'make' for a certain target (e.g. the codecs when building for archos), also don't call 'make clean' when cleaning |
| 01:03:57 | Bagder | yes, I have some ideas on more general build clenups |
| 01:04:03 | Bagder | after I checked how the linux kernel does it |
| 01:04:27 | amiconn | Ok :) |
| 01:05:18 | amiconn | My rockbox ToDo list gets longer and longer... :( |
| 01:05:32 | Bagder | such is life |
| 01:07:19 | * | rasher sighs |
| 01:07:40 | rasher | apparently my computer won't boot with this dvd-drive connected and a dvd in the drive |
| 01:07:56 | rasher | or it'll boot, but linux breaks |
| 01:08:01 | rasher | as does windows |
| 01:08:07 | rasher | not quite sure what's happening |
| 01:08:13 | rasher | and I can't eject :( |
| 01:08:20 | rasher | no eject button |
| 01:08:24 | rasher | help! |
| 01:08:45 | Bagder | and its a laptop? |
| 01:08:54 | rasher | No, regular |
| 01:09:12 | rasher | the dvd drive comes from a dead dvd-player that happened to use an ide dvd-drive |
| 01:09:19 | rasher | hence the lack of eject button |
| 01:09:28 | Bagder | then open it up and pull out the ide cable for the dvd to start with |
| 01:09:50 | rasher | well I know it'll boot then |
| 01:09:54 | rasher | I just connected it |
| 01:09:58 | Bagder | isn't there even a little whole for a forced eject? |
| 01:10:03 | Bagder | hole |
| 01:10:15 | rasher | Don't think so.. well I could have a closer look |
| 01:10:16 | Bagder | like those old sun floppies |
| 01:10:52 | rasher | Not sure why that'd be included in a dvd-player though |
| 01:10:57 | Bagder | true |
| 01:11:04 | rasher | worst part is, it's eaten my Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy dvd! |
| 01:11:58 | rasher | I've had it connected before.. used ide to eject it |
| 01:12:23 | * | amiconn goes to bed |
| 01:12:26 | amiconn | Night. |
| 01:12:30 | rasher | night |
| 01:12:37 | | Part amiconn |
| 01:13:39 | rasher | okay, taking the drive apart was pretty easy |
| 01:13:42 | rasher | disc salvaged |
| 01:13:50 | Bagder | :-) |
| 01:14:10 | rasher | now to see if I can boot with it connected |
| 01:14:45 | rasher | I'm also wondering if this extra connector at the back might be for ejecting |
| 01:15:25 | rasher | it has power, ide, master/slave selector pins, audio, and two random pins |
| 01:17:00 | rasher | still won't boot |
| 01:17:03 | rasher | weird |
| 01:19:12 | rasher | oh, it boots |
| 01:19:20 | rasher | it just sits for a few minutes with no messages |
| 01:19:36 | elinenbe | Bagder: I'm going to Tanzania this summer... what was your favorite place you went when you were there? |
| 01:19:52 | elinenbe | Bwejuu beach looks amazing! |
| 01:20:40 | Bagder | it was |
| 01:20:55 | Bagder | not too crowded ;-) |
| 01:21:33 | Bagder | well, we loved Zanzibar in general and the safari trip was great |
| 01:21:35 | elinenbe | yeah −− that looks nice. |
| 01:21:40 | elinenbe | how long were you there for? |
| 01:21:45 | Bagder | a month |
| 01:22:12 | elinenbe | my girlfriend is going to be doing dentistry in Songea in the south-west for a few weeks, and we want to make a trip of it. |
| 01:22:17 | elinenbe | well, a vacation |
| 01:22:39 | elinenbe | was everything pretty cheap once you were there? or were the prices expensive (for the touristy stuff)? |
| 01:22:51 | Bagder | everything is dead cheap, except safaris |
| 01:23:11 | Bagder | we spent like 40% of our budget on the one week safari |
| 01:24:13 | Bagder | a decent safari went for around 140-160 USD per day per person |
| 01:24:40 | elinenbe | yeah −− well, I would have to be on a pretty tight budget. |
| 01:24:58 | elinenbe | what was the price −− or about −− of your bungalow on Bwejuu Beach? |
| 01:25:18 | Bagder | I don't remember now, but it was not many dollars |
| 01:25:31 | Bagder | tourists have abandoned Tanzania |
| 01:25:45 | Bagder | so there are many many deserted hotels and beach places |
| 01:25:54 | elinenbe | why is that? |
| 01:26:02 | elinenbe | what has happened there? |
| 01:26:02 | Bagder | the US embassy bombing |
| 01:26:10 | Bagder | in Dar Es Salaam |
| 01:26:15 | preglow | hahaha |
| 01:26:50 | elinenbe | well, that doesn't bother me... that was 1998 anyway. |
| 01:27:18 | Bagder | perhaps people have returned more now, we were there in '02 |
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| 01:27:34 | preglow | the chances of being killed by bombs when on vacation are infintesimally small |
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| 01:27:54 | preglow | rasher: you're booting |
| 01:28:10 | Bagder | Tanzania is a very calm country, by african standards I'd say extremely calm ;-) |
| 01:28:15 | rasher | I am? |
| 01:28:28 | rasher | I mean apart from now |
| 01:28:30 | preglow | rasher: you might be :-) |
| 01:28:33 | elinenbe | how did that trip compare to your other trips? |
| 01:28:38 | rasher | I hit backspace and firefox thinks I mean "back" |
| 01:28:51 | preglow | ahh, you're using the web interface, yes |
| 01:29:21 | Bagder | elinenbe: Tanzania was hard to get around in on a low budget sometimes, since much of the tourist places seem to be directed to jet set tourists |
| 01:29:35 | Bagder | so sometimes we couldn't do what we wanted |
| 01:29:38 | elinenbe | I see. |
| 01:29:49 | Bagder | since we didn't wanna rent a whole boat or go far with taxis |
| 01:29:49 | rasher | Yeah.. I rid myself of irc more or less |
| 01:30:03 | preglow | rasher: a good plan |
| 01:30:18 | Bagder | elinenbe: but we'd never been in the real africa before, so it was a good experience |
| 01:30:31 | rasher | except for this channel, which has an actual purpose |
| 01:30:42 | rasher | not keeping an irc client around for it though |
| 01:30:45 | rasher | but... |
| 01:31:12 | rasher | Bagder: So the plan is.. I get cvs commit acces and start updating log.t and things will Just Work? |
| 01:31:16 | rasher | or.. what? |
| 01:31:24 | Bagder | rasher: that's the plan |
| 01:32:26 | rasher | Sounds good |
| 01:32:32 | Bagder | rasher: give me a preferred user namd and password and I'll set you up |
| 01:32:36 | Bagder | in private |
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| 01:35:16 | elinenbe | well, we will be on a serious budget, so I guess we'll see what we can do... |
| 01:35:59 | Bagder | elinenbe: if you're not too picky you can often live and eat extremely cheap |
| 01:36:45 | Bagder | "we'd like some food. What do you serve?" -"We have meat. And rice." |
| 01:36:58 | Bagder | (actual quote ;-) |
| 01:37:18 | elinenbe | well, that works for me. |
| 01:37:23 | preglow | mean, good, rice, good, all good |
| 01:37:25 | preglow | meat <- |
| 01:37:43 | preglow | i'm off to bed, later all |
| 01:37:47 | Bagder | and when we asked, they could in fact make eggs too ;-) |
| 01:37:47 | elinenbe | Bagder: you know the default iriver firmware is VERY nice compared to the default archos firmware... |
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| 01:38:12 | Bagder | I hardly remember the archos one |
| 01:38:13 | elinenbe | it is going to be a challenge for rockbox to look nicer than the iriver firmware. |
| 01:38:22 | elinenbe | well, that is because the archos one is shit. |
| 01:38:50 | HCl | hello |
| 01:39:14 | rasher | I don't care about "nicer than the iriver firmware" |
| 01:39:18 | rasher | cleaner, though... |
| 01:39:20 | Bagder | rasher: you are now added and recognized as committer |
| 01:39:30 | elinenbe | rasher: what did you add? |
| 01:39:43 | rasher | add... what?! |
| 01:39:48 | elinenbe | I think that we need to get the grayscale patch into the CVS |
| 01:39:52 | elinenbe | for the iriver. |
| 01:40:05 | Bagder | elinenbe: rasher is about to attempt to update the digest section |
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| 01:40:31 | elinenbe | oh yeah, that is very dated. |
| 01:40:31 | rasher | Oh.. like that.. I'm not going to touch rockbox |
| 01:40:38 | CoCoLUS | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~coates/video/Redefined%20-%20Nintendo%20(Video).mpg |
| 01:40:39 | CoCoLUS | sick |
| 01:41:46 | rasher | But I think there's going to be major reworking of the graphics layer |
| 01:42:34 | elinenbe | there is going to be a major reworking of a lot of the layers... although it will take some time. |
| 01:42:56 | rasher | which may be why the grayscale patch is on hold.. also because markun appears to have vanished |
| 01:43:58 | elinenbe | is he the person who did the grayscale patch? |
| 01:44:03 | rasher | yes |
| 01:46:25 | rasher | Hrm.. first task.. add all old newsitems to the digest, I guess |
| 01:46:36 | rasher | for completeness |
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| 01:48:07 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/mail/#news |
| 01:48:35 | Bagder | the previous mailing list for it is dead since long |
| 01:48:57 | rasher | I meant these: http://www.rockbox.org/history.html |
| 01:49:20 | Bagder | yes, my note here had no connection to that ;-) |
| 01:49:41 | rasher | Alright :) |
| 01:49:56 | Bagder | there's a script in the digest dir that makes the digest.mail file |
| 01:50:02 | Bagder | suitable for posting to the list |
| 01:50:06 | Bagder | at least that's how I did it |
| 01:51:04 | rasher | Sounds good |
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| 01:51:27 | sockerteze | quick |
| 01:51:27 | rasher | so each NEWSDATE consists of a number of ITEMs? |
| 01:51:37 | Bagder | yes |
| 01:51:47 | sockerteze | name an amimal that has a hard time getting water |
| 01:51:51 | sockerteze | like a really really hard time |
| 01:51:56 | rasher | wtf?! |
| 01:52:03 | sockerteze | dont ask |
| 01:52:07 | sockerteze | just tell |
| 01:52:29 | sockerteze | ok i'll give you an example, like the camel, and he adapts by storing it in a hump |
| 01:52:34 | sockerteze | now give me a more creative one |
| 01:52:43 | * | Bagder refuses |
| 01:52:58 | sockerteze | sissy |
| 01:53:07 | * | rasher boggles |
| 01:53:10 | Bagder | yeah, that's me |
| 01:54:13 | sockerteze | how sad |
| 01:54:35 | Bagder | but my nick is almost an animal ;-) |
| 01:55:04 | sockerteze | i think bagders have it easy as far a water acquisiton goes, thank you very much |
| 01:55:41 | Bagder | and exactly how does this relate to mp3 player firmwares again? ;-) |
| 01:56:01 | hile | did you know that next ubuntu release is called 'breezy badger' - dedicated to you? ;) |
| 01:56:21 | sockerteze | i know where you can get the firmwares if you tell me an animal |
| 01:56:29 | Bagder | hile: yes, that must be it! ;-) |
| 01:56:47 | elinenbe | quick question does the grayscale with sound rockboy run slower than the b/w no sound one? |
| 01:57:01 | HCl | theoretically, no |
| 01:57:18 | Bagder | hile: pity the misspelled my nick :-P |
| 01:57:22 | Bagder | they |
| 01:57:23 | elinenbe | HCl: thanks. |
| 01:58:07 | hile | yeah |
| 01:59:41 | elinenbe | HCl: I think you should try and get the dynarec 100%... |
| 01:59:48 | elinenbe | I believe that is a noble challenge. |
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| 02:00:10 | * | HCl tries to think of an excuse but can't really find a good one |
| 02:00:20 | Bagder | sleep(); |
| 02:03:18 | * | HCl loves that .mp3 |
| 02:03:21 | HCl | .mpg |
| 02:03:21 | HCl | i mean |
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| 02:09:04 | HCl | elinenbe: i'm not extremely motivated to look at it since its not really nice to debug... |
| 02:21:03 | rasher | Hrm, quite hesitant to commit this log.t.. don't know if it'll be used to update automatically.. and don't know if it'll break because I can't make the scripts work |
| 02:21:16 | rasher | so unless Bagder's still here.. |
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| 12:36:46 | HCl | vicious: you can't. |
| 12:36:55 | HCl | its a result of uninitialized hardware |
| 12:40:56 | LinusN | it's on my ever so long list of things to fix :-) |
| 12:46:00 | HCl | hehe |
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| 13:18:43 | LinusN | HCl, vicious: fixed in cvs |
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| 13:24:49 | t0mas | always? |
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| 13:27:53 | ripnetuk | i have reason to believe that the stock rockbox firmware bumps up the probability of getting a track on shuffle if you have listened to soemthing in that directory recently... it may just be conincidence but several times lately I have listened to a track for the first time in AGES and then another track from the same album has come up on shuffle later that day... |
| 13:28:00 | ripnetuk | i mean stock iriver firmware :) |
| 13:30:29 | LinusN | had me confused there for a second... :-) |
| 13:31:22 | ripnetuk | :) |
| 13:31:41 | ripnetuk | hows the iRiver sound system coming along??? ive been real busy and have been skipping my daily review of the irc log |
| 13:31:57 | * | amiconn wonders what/where the question for this answer was... <HCl> vicious: you can't. |
| 13:32:00 | LinusN | i am still working on cleaning up the internals |
| 13:32:23 | LinusN | 07.14.26 # <Vicious> hello everyone, how do I turn off optical out by default when booting to rockbox on iriver? |
| 13:32:31 | ripnetuk | i think 95% of coding is 'cleaning up' :) |
| 13:33:11 | ripnetuk | by which i mean that i seem to spend more time renaming variables to more sensible names, and making routines more generic than actual new dev |
| 13:33:31 | LinusN | i never make routines more generic if i don't have to |
| 13:33:51 | ripnetuk | dont you? not even when you are coding for the pure fun of it, rather thtn work? |
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| 13:34:29 | LinusN | no need to spend time making a function generic if i don't even know if it will be used more than once |
| 13:34:38 | ripnetuk | i guess |
| 13:35:06 | LinusN | part of my general programming philosophy: KISS |
| 13:35:24 | ripnetuk | yes. good philosophy |
| 13:35:31 | t0mas | :) |
| 13:35:32 | ripnetuk | part of my tidying up is often simplification |
| 13:35:52 | LinusN | that i can buy |
| 13:35:56 | ripnetuk | when you can pull out 75% of the code and have it do the same thing (eg, removing a layer of abstraction)... very satifying |
| 13:36:14 | LinusN | abstractions are often evil omho |
| 13:36:17 | LinusN | imho |
| 13:36:28 | ripnetuk | only when they go too far for no reaosn |
| 13:36:35 | LinusN | exactly |
| 13:36:46 | ripnetuk | i wish my work place had far more abstraction :) |
| 13:37:03 | LinusN | i wich my work place had a lot less :-) |
| 13:37:07 | ripnetuk | :) |
| 13:37:27 | LinusN | it's a veritable design pattern orgy |
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| 13:37:38 | t0mas | I wish i understand what you're talking about... |
| 13:37:38 | ripnetuk | we are very informal @ my work |
| 13:37:49 | LinusN | t0mas: :-) |
| 13:37:59 | t0mas | maybe I should read it... |
| 13:38:03 | t0mas | *yawns* |
| 13:38:17 | * | LinusN gets some more coffee |
| 13:38:22 | * | t0mas too |
| 13:38:26 | t0mas | nice idea |
| 13:38:54 | ripnetuk | t0mas - i would point you at wikipedia, but it says "An abstraction is an idea, concept, or word which defines the phenomena which make up the concrete events or things which the abstraction refers to," which i dont think simplifies it :) |
| 13:39:33 | ripnetuk | idea - pocketpc port of rockbox to run on my cellphone - once we have software decoding framework up and running, it should be fairly straighforeward |
| 13:39:44 | ripnetuk | at least compared to porting to a new embedded devic |
| 13:40:21 | ripnetuk | windows media player on my phone is so daft - it draws a MASSIVE pause button, but doesnt display the id3 info for artist etc... how lame |
| 13:41:22 | LinusN | :-) |
| 13:41:52 | LinusN | hehe, i broke the power button on my trusty nokia 8310 this weekend |
| 13:42:45 | ripnetuk | oh no :( |
| 13:42:46 | LinusN | it turned out that it has the same type of buttons as the H1x0, so i just took a button from a broken H120 and replaced it |
| 13:42:53 | ripnetuk | hehe |
| 13:42:55 | LinusN | voila! |
| 13:43:24 | ripnetuk | the 8310 is inho the best non-toy phone ever made... mine went to the gf and she is still using it years later |
| 13:43:30 | LinusN | one of those few occasions where it's actually useful to have an mp3 player junkyard |
| 13:43:35 | ripnetuk | lol |
| 13:44:00 | ripnetuk | i had to use play-dough to fill in the gaps around the screen on my phone this weekend |
| 13:44:09 | LinusN | 8210 was also very good, but the lcd was badly connected |
| 13:44:13 | ripnetuk | yes |
| 13:44:36 | ripnetuk | although mine got stroppy when I dropped it down a toilet (its true) |
| 13:44:42 | LinusN | lol |
| 13:44:49 | ripnetuk | was on my birthday as well |
| 13:44:58 | ripnetuk | still, that was a good excuse to get a 8310 |
| 13:45:03 | LinusN | hehe |
| 13:46:59 | * | ripnetuk remembers the days of a phone battery lasting a week on one charge |
| 13:47:39 | amiconn | ripnetuk: Mine still does (usually) |
| 13:48:38 | ripnetuk | my old one does... but I got tempted by smartphones. The 6600 lasts about a day, and my new Orange SPV lasts 2/3 days... but it DOES have a .net runtime on it :) |
| 13:48:58 | ripnetuk | and it CAN talk to my GPS and do sat nav, and it CAN play divX for commuting... |
| 13:49:21 | amiconn | I don't need smartphones or camera, colour display and other gimmicks |
| 13:49:24 | ripnetuk | and it has a standrard mini-usb plug for charging, so i can charge it anywhere I can get to a pc |
| 13:50:03 | ripnetuk | amicon - i think for me its worth it |
| 13:50:30 | amiconn | Yes - that's why there is the choice. |
| 13:50:48 | ripnetuk | the only time it really bothers me is at festivals where there is no power |
| 13:50:55 | ripnetuk | and thats like once or twice a year |
| 13:50:57 | amiconn | I simply want a light and small phone |
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| 14:08:40 | ripnetuk | anyway, nice to talk to you guys again... catch up soon... bye |
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| 14:28:59 | rasher | Bagder? |
| 14:31:01 | rasher | aw dammit, missed ripnetuk |
| 14:35:31 | HCl | darn. |
| 14:35:34 | HCl | i'm bored |
| 14:36:12 | elinenbe | HCl: want a challenge? |
| 14:36:13 | elinenbe | :) |
| 14:36:18 | HCl | eh. |
| 14:36:21 | HCl | not really o.o; |
| 14:36:27 | HCl | but ask anyways. |
| 14:36:59 | * | ashridah is also bored |
| 14:38:22 | elinenbe | 100% speed rockboy! :-) |
| 14:38:35 | elinenbe | well, actually, I think you should work on whatever makes you happy |
| 14:40:15 | HCl | :p |
| 14:40:16 | HCl | thanks |
| 14:40:22 | HCl | i think i'm just gonna nap a bit and read my book |
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| 15:26:23 | preglow | anyone know of a decent audio editor for linux? |
| 15:26:32 | preglow | 'cuz i'm starting to consider writing one myself |
| 15:32:00 | bobTHC | like audacy ? |
| 15:32:21 | rasher | except not horrible? |
| 15:32:36 | bobTHC | :) |
| 15:32:54 | rasher | actually, I used it a few weeks ago |
| 15:33:00 | rasher | it wasn't as stupid as I remembered |
| 15:33:31 | preglow | audacity is shit and crap |
| 15:33:41 | preglow | and to top it off, it's gtk 1 based |
| 15:33:44 | preglow | so it's looks like shit as well |
| 15:34:00 | rasher | Plus the horrible control buttons |
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| 15:35:53 | preglow | what i'd like, really, is a cool edit clone |
| 15:35:56 | preglow | that would rock |
| 15:37:06 | rasher | Isn't the main thing missing like 80% of the tools/filters/etc |
| 15:37:07 | bobTHC | yes, cool edit is simple & powerfull |
| 15:37:42 | preglow | and the spectrum analyzer in audacity is horrible |
| 15:38:48 | * | rasher makes a few mental notes |
| 15:39:20 | rasher | Bagder: I have a few questions about news and songdb.pl |
| 15:39:34 | rasher | There, let's see if he responds while I'm still here |
| 15:41:57 | bobTHC | preglow > and Sweep dont please u ? |
| 15:44:29 | bobTHC | http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/index.html |
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| 16:01:10 | preglow | i never tried it |
| 16:01:14 | preglow | it sure is ugly, though |
| 16:01:19 | preglow | i wish everyone started using gtk2 |
| 16:02:03 | bobTHC | another is rezound but i never try it... |
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| 16:56:42 | t0mas | fuck... |
| 16:56:47 | t0mas | does windows have an undelete function? |
| 16:57:37 | rasher | not really.. it may still be on the drive though |
| 16:57:46 | rasher | you need to stop using the drive |
| 16:57:52 | rasher | fast |
| 16:57:54 | t0mas | yeah... |
| 16:57:58 | t0mas | unmount it ;) |
| 16:58:02 | t0mas | but windows can't do that |
| 16:58:25 | rasher | and then hope to find a disk utility program that has undelete |
| 16:58:32 | t0mas | yeah, have one |
| 16:58:34 | t0mas | but can't lock the disk |
| 16:58:47 | t0mas | is there a way to see wich program's have files open on that disk? |
| 16:58:49 | rasher | I don't know of any.. used Norton DiskMagicWhatever a bunch of years ago |
| 16:59:00 | rasher | No idea |
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| 17:03:15 | * | t0mas is going to reboot in safemode.... |
| 17:03:16 | t0mas | brb |
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| 17:10:05 | preglow | i think sysinternals has a tool that lets you see what's using the disk |
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| 17:14:02 | XShocK | FileMon |
| 17:14:25 | XShocK | is that tool |
| 17:16:32 | rasher | I wish windows would be more like linux |
| 17:18:51 | tvelocity | you can unmount partitions in windows using paragon partition manager |
| 17:19:08 | tvelocity | plus, you get to mount ext3 partitions R/W |
| 17:19:41 | tvelocity | but i doubt that this would help:P |
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| 17:21:55 | Tang | eHi Rockbox and others |
| 17:22:21 | rasher | hola |
| 17:22:35 | bobTHC | hi |
| 17:22:40 | t0mas | hi |
| 17:25:07 | Tang | hi T0mas |
| 17:25:19 | Tang | sorry for the fornoobs section |
| 17:25:24 | t0mas | still not using tab right? :P |
| 17:25:24 | Tang | i wasn't here this we |
| 17:25:33 | Tang | lol no |
| 17:25:44 | Tang | i'll do |
| 17:25:49 | Tang | about 4noobs |
| 17:25:53 | t0mas | Just joking ;) |
| 17:25:56 | Tang | i made an edit |
| 17:25:59 | Tang | (lol oki) |
| 17:26:19 | Tang | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPortStatusForNoobs#iRiverPortStatusForNoobs |
| 17:26:35 | Tang | Corrections may be needed thought |
| 17:30:12 | t0mas | Tang? are you editing the fornoobs section? |
| 17:30:22 | Tang | hum indeed |
| 17:30:27 | t0mas | ok |
| 17:30:29 | t0mas | I'll wait |
| 17:31:08 | Tang | hum no not presentmly thjought |
| 17:31:33 | CoCoLUS | i have a suggestion for the fornoobs page |
| 17:31:48 | Tang | go on coco |
| 17:31:54 | Tang | it's wiki |
| 17:31:57 | Tang | open to all |
| 17:32:37 | CoCoLUS | the "noob" user isn't really concered with who done it or what a hex file is... so i think (theres a seperate credits page, i think) names like linus should be removed, and technical terms like hex file should be avoided :) |
| 17:32:46 | CoCoLUS | makes it more accessible for noobs :) |
| 17:33:04 | Tang | hum noobs but owner of iHP |
| 17:33:07 | Tang | i guess |
| 17:33:16 | Tang | thjey make update with iRiver HEX |
| 17:33:17 | Tang | no? |
| 17:33:54 | t0mas | yeah... |
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| 17:34:59 | CoCoLUS | has the firmware file actually the extension .hex? then i stand corrected, of course ;) |
| 17:35:16 | Tang | yes of course |
| 17:35:22 | Tang | it's an HEX file |
| 17:35:23 | Tang | :) |
| 17:36:27 | CoCoLUS | kind of a philosophical matter, since there is only a hex representation of a file, not a hex file per se :) |
| 17:36:43 | Tang | hum i didn't understood sorry |
| 17:37:11 | Tang | the extension is *.HEX" |
| 17:37:55 | Tang | brb |
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| 17:51:54 | MoosCamaro | Hi all |
| 17:52:12 | bobTHC | hi |
| 17:53:27 | bobTHC | are u a camaro fan or it's just for joking ? |
| 17:53:48 | Tang | hi Bob |
| 17:53:55 | Tang | (camaroo is french too ;)) |
| 17:53:59 | bobTHC | because camaro is a little bit pathetic ;) |
| 17:54:00 | MoosCamaro | hi BobTHC |
| 17:54:21 | MoosCamaro | is nickname in french for maroccan |
| 17:54:30 | MoosCamaro | hi Tang |
| 17:54:50 | bobTHC | hi french folk ! ;) |
| 17:54:53 | Tang | :) |
| 17:55:08 | MoosCamaro | yes |
| 17:56:34 | Tang | brb again |
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| 18:00:42 | MoosCamaro | Hi Tang, I read the noobs section in Wiki |
| 18:01:11 | MoosCamaro | it's a good summary |
| 18:01:22 | MoosCamaro | for nubiz |
| 18:03:00 | Tang | thanks Moos |
| 18:03:18 | Tang | but maybe some organisation more will be cool |
| 18:03:23 | Tang | i'm thinking about |
| 18:03:46 | MoosCamaro | Tang: it's a good start |
| 18:03:57 | Tang | thanks moos |
| 18:04:02 | Tang | i guess |
| 18:04:11 | Tang | rBx will improve this better |
| 18:04:13 | Tang | :)$ |
| 18:04:21 | Tang | and in better english |
| 18:04:23 | Tang | :D |
| 18:04:29 | MoosCamaro | :) |
| 18:05:02 | Tang | i wonder if a HowTo shall be added about some things |
| 18:05:09 | Tang | also add a link to the FAQ |
| 18:05:25 | Tang | will try |
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| 19:11:03 | preglow | can anyone think of a single reason for why irivers flash based devices can't handle vorbis bitrates below 96kbps? |
| 19:11:36 | rasher | not really |
| 19:11:54 | rasher | maybe it uses things they cut out to save space/etc? |
| 19:12:10 | preglow | why, no, i don't think so |
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| 19:12:56 | rasher | alright |
| 19:16:08 | preglow | i don't think they do anything but use fewer bits |
| 19:16:16 | preglow | not even spikes to lower bitrates are possible |
| 19:16:19 | rasher | alright |
| 19:16:25 | preglow | and that's very annoying, seeing as vorbis is vbr |
| 19:16:44 | rasher | oh, haha |
| 19:18:57 | rasher | working on anything? |
| 19:19:03 | preglow | me, no |
| 19:19:09 | preglow | just hearing people complain about the ifp devices |
| 19:19:14 | rasher | ah |
| 19:23:28 | Tang_ | can anyone think of a single reason for why irivers flash based devices can't handle vorbis bitrates below 96kbps? |
| 19:23:33 | Tang_ | what device? |
| 19:23:38 | Tang_ | iFP and iMP? |
| 19:24:06 | Tang_ | iHP support all vorbis range i think |
| 19:25:02 | rasher | ifps I think |
| 19:25:22 | Tang_ | indeed |
| 19:25:24 | Tang_ | i know |
| 19:25:31 | Tang_ | gabriel Bouvigne explained |
| 19:25:36 | Tang_ | it a time ago |
| 19:26:00 | Tang_ | i've to retrieve the explanation |
| 19:26:06 | Tang_ | it was quite complexe |
| 19:27:33 | * | rasher plays iriver.mp3 using the debug menu option |
| 19:27:37 | rasher | iRive!r |
| 19:27:44 | rasher | Catch the digital flow! |
| 19:27:56 | rasher | Music - easier than ever! |
| 19:27:58 | rasher | etc. |
| 19:28:09 | preglow | seems like it's a memory issue |
| 19:28:17 | preglow | Tang_: ifp devices |
| 19:28:48 | Tang_ | oki preglow |
| 19:29:05 | Tang_ | retrieve the information will be quite difficult |
| 19:29:21 | Tang_ | i'shall recontact gabreil |
| 19:29:28 | rasher | reverse lcd will be really great for the remote |
| 19:29:39 | rasher | for me, anyway |
| 19:29:55 | rasher | it's ALWAYS the wrong way round when I look at it |
| 19:30:59 | Tang_ | i've the shot |
| 19:31:01 | Tang_ | :) |
| 19:31:17 | Tang_ | it's in french however |
| 19:31:25 | Tang_ | is there Bob here? |
| 19:31:34 | Tang_ | it's evry technical |
| 19:31:47 | Tang_ | will be hard to traduce for me |
| 19:31:50 | Tang_ | :/ |
| 19:31:58 | rasher | hrm, 4-pixel error in the upside mode |
| 19:32:17 | Tang_ | "Les specs vorbis autorisent des fenêtres très grandes qui sont utilisées pour les bas débits dans l'encodeur actuel. Mais ces tailles sont trop grandes pour pouvoir être utilisées par les décodeurs embarqués, principalement à cause de la quantité de mémoire necessaire. (plus de mémoire->plus cher et plus de mémoire à acceder->plus lent)" |
| 19:32:29 | Tang_ | i try a translation: |
| 19:32:57 | Tang_ | the specification of Vorbis allow big "windows" used for low bitrate |
| 19:33:35 | Tang_ | But theses sizes are too big to be used by embeded codec specialy due to BUFFER size limitation |
| 19:34:15 | Tang_ | windows= window of transformed frequencies |
| 19:34:25 | preglow | yes, i know |
| 19:34:27 | Tang_ | wish it's understandable |
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| 19:34:29 | preglow | i saw that |
| 19:34:37 | preglow | little to be done about it |
| 19:34:42 | Tang_ | sorry i wasn't sure it was the good word in English |
| 19:34:52 | Tang_ | since it's technical language |
| 19:35:14 | preglow | well |
| 19:35:21 | preglow | i'm really looking forward to seeing vorbis2 |
| 19:36:40 | rasher | I wish someone would create a peeler |
| 19:37:33 | lolo-laptop | In rockbox, it wouldn't be possible to handle those larger windows by using part of the codec buffer for audio buffer temporarily −− ie we're decoding low bitrate crap so we don't need the whole codec buffer for predecode? (or maybe I'm just talking out of my ass) |
| 19:37:42 | preglow | someone has tried, it wasn't as easy as they thought |
| 19:38:21 | preglow | lolo-laptop: you're assuming the device has ram |
| 19:38:40 | lolo-laptop | preglow: s/in rockbox/on the iRiver/ |
| 19:38:50 | preglow | this will not be a problem for the h120, which has extra ram |
| 19:38:55 | lolo-laptop | ahh, gotcha. |
| 19:38:57 | preglow | it will be for the devices that only have the ram on the cpu |
| 19:39:03 | lolo-laptop | clarified, thanks. |
| 19:39:52 | preglow | but some of the ifp devices DO have extra ram |
| 19:46:47 | Tang_ | Who works on the iFP port? |
| 19:46:52 | Tang_ | You're Preglow? |
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| 19:48:05 | * | t0mas is back |
| 19:49:15 | Tang_ | t0mas :) |
| 19:51:44 | t0mas | lol |
| 19:51:49 | t0mas | I was just scrolling up... |
| 19:51:57 | t0mas | read your french text Tang_ |
| 19:52:04 | t0mas | and relized I do speak a little french ;) |
| 19:52:14 | Tang_ | ah but i've traduced in English you know |
| 19:52:29 | Tang_ | translated sorry |
| 19:52:32 | Tang_ | ;) |
| 19:52:57 | t0mas | yeah, saw that later ;) |
| 19:52:59 | ShyK | does anyone have an estimation as to how difficult it would be to port/develop the firmware for h3x0, how long for it to be usable, etc? |
| 19:53:24 | Tang_ | Eh Shyk |
| 19:53:28 | preglow | not long compared to the time it took to port to h120 |
| 19:53:34 | preglow | a process we're not even done with |
| 19:53:37 | ShyK | Tang_: Eh :) |
| 19:53:44 | Tang_ | i wanted to say |
| 19:53:49 | Tang_ | it's a bit premature |
| 19:53:50 | Seed | Mister Keidar. you forgot the other network |
| 19:54:13 | ShyK | Seed: no i didn't. my mirc forgot to keep on trying to rejoin |
| 19:54:25 | ShyK | no, in fact it's still trying |
| 19:54:37 | Tang_ | seems i become a little bit too "overprotecting" |
| 19:55:11 | Seed | you're just French. you don't need to apologize |
| 19:55:29 | Tang_ | ? |
| 19:56:20 | Tang_ | i don't see the point Seed? (too hard for my english :)) |
| 19:56:35 | * | t0mas has the feeling he is missing something too... |
| 19:57:02 | rasher | seems like a "mock the French" to me |
| 19:57:11 | Tang_ | mock? |
| 19:57:17 | Tang_ | like a joke? |
| 19:57:24 | dwihno | the ihp-1xx series looks better than the 300 series. |
| 19:57:25 | Tang_ | ("against frenchies"? |
| 19:57:27 | Tang_ | ) |
| 19:57:38 | rasher | sortof.. not sure if that's correct though |
| 19:57:45 | Tang_ | okay |
| 19:57:50 | preglow | haha |
| 19:57:54 | * | t0mas doesn't like french too :P |
| 19:57:55 | preglow | attempt at a joke, i guess |
| 19:57:57 | Tang_ | lol |
| 19:58:07 | t0mas | weird language they use... |
| 19:58:13 | t0mas | stupid teacher I had :P |
| 19:58:18 | Tang_ | but what is the thing with protecion and french? |
| 19:58:19 | t0mas | ;-) |
| 19:58:25 | t0mas | don't know... |
| 19:58:42 | rasher | Anyone know a playstation emulator for linux? |
| 19:58:57 | Tang_ | :) |
| 19:58:59 | preglow | fpse? |
| 19:59:04 | Tang_ | Too complicate |
| 19:59:05 | Tang_ | :) |
| 19:59:15 | t0mas | OpenPSX |
| 19:59:16 | Tang_ | hum i read Linus fried an iHP1xx |
| 19:59:18 | t0mas | rasher |
| 19:59:26 | Tang_ | it was during BDM stage? |
| 19:59:41 | t0mas | rasher: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/openpsx/ |
| 19:59:41 | rasher | thanks |
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| 20:01:47 | rasher | "This Project Has Not Released Any Files" :-\ |
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| 20:02:27 | ShyK | dwihno: maybe, but h1x0 is old, no longer manufactured and unsupported |
| 20:02:39 | ep0ch | evenin' |
| 20:02:48 | ShyK | evenin |
| 20:03:17 | ep0ch | I don't suppose anyone has experience setting up a rockbox build environment with FreeBSD? |
| 20:04:34 | rasher | shouldn't be much different than linux |
| 20:05:07 | rasher | best bet is to set up a local (to your user) copy of binutils, gcc |
| 20:10:36 | preglow | deed |
| 20:17:39 | ep0ch | ah i need to follow the cross compiler instructions first :) |
| 20:18:03 | preglow | who'd have thought it! |
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| 20:53:56 | preglow | do anyone really care whether the crc of an mp3 frame fails? |
| 20:54:17 | preglow | if it sounds good, i don't care, if it doesn't sound good, i care, regardless of whether the crc is correct |
| 20:55:47 | t0mas | indeed :) |
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| 22:06:13 | prethom | i wish the coldfire docs agreed on instruction timing |
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| 22:15:13 | rasher | That'd be no fun |
| 22:16:43 | prethom | indeed |
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| 22:23:00 | * | preglow wants to start porting faad |
| 22:24:23 | rasher | faad? |
| 22:24:57 | rasher | ah, aac |
| 22:25:36 | rasher | I looked at mpc the other day |
| 22:25:48 | rasher | managed to fit it nicely into the codecs bit |
| 22:26:02 | rasher | but then things were lacking |
| 22:26:14 | rasher | and long longs appeared etc |
| 22:26:16 | rasher | then I gave up |
| 22:26:37 | preglow | long longs are no showstopper |
| 22:26:46 | preglow | i think i should write a emac unit howto or something |
| 22:27:04 | preglow | since i seem to be the only one who knows how to use it |
| 22:27:09 | preglow | and it's very essential for codec work |
| 22:27:35 | rasher | I know, I just have no idea how to continue |
| 22:27:56 | rasher | and I'm not nearly competent enough to fix it :) |
| 22:28:12 | preglow | could you spam me an example of how long longs are used? |
| 22:28:28 | rasher | sorry, I deleted it again |
| 22:28:39 | rasher | because I had done very little |
| 22:29:02 | rasher | so all I managed to find out was that it *could* be done probably fairly easily |
| 22:29:51 | rasher | at least, I think I did.. let me see |
| 22:30:04 | rasher | yeah, no libmusepack |
| 22:30:10 | rasher | guess I could try again |
| 22:30:16 | rasher | only took me like 30 minutes to hit my brick wall |
| 22:31:29 | preglow | well, what did you do in that time? |
| 22:31:56 | preglow | just getting it ready for use in rockbox is also a piece of work deserving of being commited |
| 22:32:06 | preglow | it might be slow, but hell, it's a good start |
| 22:32:15 | rasher | well it didn't at all compile |
| 22:32:31 | rasher | I'll do it again and send my work to you or something |
| 22:38:09 | preglow | why do germans always have to speak and write in german :/ |
| 22:39:04 | preglow | yes, i did bump into function names in german |
| 22:39:16 | rasher | Where? |
| 22:39:26 | preglow | libmusepack |
| 22:40:30 | * | preglow curses motorola |
| 22:42:50 | rasher | oh |
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| 22:44:00 | preglow | i wish they had just used two ordinary registers for accumulators |
| 22:44:01 | preglow | like on arm |
| 22:44:06 | preglow | it's so much easier to deal with |
| 22:44:13 | rasher | so you're already at libmusepack? |
| 22:44:20 | preglow | i'm having a look at it |
| 22:44:31 | preglow | but i'm not doing anything with it |
| 22:44:36 | preglow | just looking how hard it'll be to port |
| 22:44:39 | rasher | ah |
| 22:45:41 | rasher | I'll see if I can make it build then |
| 22:46:02 | rasher | or at least, attempt to build |
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| 23:11:04 | rasher | ho hum |
| 23:14:03 | rasher | hrm, this was much easier the last time |
| 23:19:22 | preglow | heh |
| 23:20:21 | rasher | Maybe I wasn't doing it right then |
| 23:26:55 | rasher | hum |
| 23:29:52 | rasher | now let me see |
| 23:30:41 | rasher | this'll be exciting |
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| 23:33:58 | * | rasher makes |
| 23:34:09 | rasher | .. hilarity ensues |
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| 23:34:39 | preglow | haha |
| 23:34:40 | preglow | waht |
| 23:35:02 | rasher | didn't even attempt to build |
| 23:35:03 | rasher | :)( |
| 23:36:05 | rasher | ah, haha |
| 23:38:25 | rasher | oh here we go |
| 23:41:20 | rasher | want me to create a patch and send you? |
| 23:41:32 | preglow | that would be nice |
| 23:41:49 | rasher | hang on a while |
| 23:42:31 | preglow | no hurry |
| 23:42:51 | rasher | http://rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/libmusepack.tar.bz2 |
| 23:42:59 | rasher | that's apps/libmusepack |
| 23:43:13 | rasher | I'll make a patch of the rest |
| 23:45:07 | rasher | can I do this using cvs somehow? |
| 23:47:38 | preglow | making a patch? |
| 23:47:45 | rasher | yes |
| 23:47:59 | rasher | oh well, nearly have one now |
| 23:48:08 | preglow | well, no, not when libmusepack isn't already in cvs |
| 23:48:19 | rasher | but the rest of the files? |
| 23:48:24 | preglow | ahh |
| 23:48:25 | preglow | cvs diff |
| 23:48:38 | preglow | might do the trick |
| 23:48:55 | preglow | anything special you did to the libmusepack source? |
| 23:48:57 | rasher | let's see what happens |
| 23:49:03 | rasher | not really |
| 23:49:14 | rasher | just compacted it |
| 23:49:25 | rasher | removed all the crust and moved it into a single dir |
| 23:49:53 | rasher | ah damn |
| 23:49:57 | rasher | I have www checked out |
| 23:50:35 | preglow | cvs diff takes parameters as well |
| 23:50:39 | preglow | if you know which dirs you have changed |
| 23:50:53 | preglow | but i don't know if cvs diff alone makes a patch |
| 23:51:08 | rasher | looks like it does |
| 23:51:19 | rasher | looks about right too |
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| 23:51:57 | rasher | dammit |
| 23:52:11 | rasher | random files I have changed for other reasons... |
| 23:53:20 | preglow | i take it you haven't made a mpc2wav as well? :P |
| 23:53:29 | rasher | well that's a disappointingly short diff |
| 23:53:33 | rasher | I sure haven't |
| 23:54:07 | rasher | not sure if this is a real patch or what.. looks a bit dodgy |
| 23:54:25 | rasher | http://rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/libmusepack.patch |
| 23:54:36 | rasher | if it doesn't work, shouldn't be much work to apply it by hand |
| 23:55:51 | rasher | all yours :) |
| 23:56:48 | preglow | ok, i'll have a look at it soon |
| 23:57:13 | preglow | i'll have to hear with the guys what the stance is on modifying the dir structure of the codecs, though |
| 23:57:35 | preglow | someone mentioned modifying as little as possible, and i don't know if it applies to that as well |
| 23:57:52 | rasher | I think that was done with... some of the other ones as well |
| 23:58:17 | preglow | perhaps |
| 23:58:21 | preglow | i won't commit it until tomorrow anyway |
| 23:58:55 | rasher | apps/liba52/README.Rockbox |
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