| 00:02:33 | LinusN | oh yes |
| 00:02:38 | preglow | heaps |
| 00:02:38 | preglow | tons |
| 00:02:48 | preglow | i can run my h120 in fm mode for days |
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| 00:04:03 | Biptoria | Sterling. Has any codecs been started to be implemented yet ? Havnt seen and wiki action for a while |
| 00:04:10 | rasher | damn |
| 00:04:12 | preglow | we have tons of codecs |
| 00:04:15 | preglow | i just added a new one today |
| 00:04:16 | rasher | it would seem so |
| 00:04:18 | preglow | why, this very minute |
| 00:04:20 | Biptoria | Muse pack ? |
| 00:04:23 | preglow | aye |
| 00:04:27 | rasher | (thatmy change caused this) |
| 00:04:46 | Biptoria | Is MP3 implemnted and useable ? |
| 00:04:59 | preglow | Biptoria: well, yes, but not like realtime, it just makes wavs right now |
| 00:05:32 | preglow | hmm |
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| 00:05:47 | Biptoria | Thanks preglow, you from yorkshire? little bit of the aye going on |
| 00:05:56 | preglow | i forgot viewers.config |
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| 00:06:07 | preglow | Biptoria: no, norway |
| 00:06:16 | preglow | Biptoria: but i do fancy alternate forms of 'yes' from time to time |
| 00:06:24 | Biptoria | Long way away for farmer talk then :| |
| 00:06:29 | preglow | haha |
| 00:06:33 | preglow | though i am something of a farmer |
| 00:06:47 | Biptoria | Ill let you off then :P |
| 00:06:58 | preglow | i used to live ten metres from horses and potato crops |
| 00:07:37 | Biptoria | I live about 100 meters from 5 farms |
| 00:09:00 | preglow | LinusN: so, you're closing in on realtime sound? |
| 00:09:08 | LinusN | slowly, yes |
| 00:09:14 | preglow | smashing |
| 00:09:28 | Bagder | preglow: I believe I've fixed the blank changelog thing now |
| 00:09:28 | Biptoria | Is realtime when its ready for real use ? |
| 00:09:50 | preglow | Biptoria: realtime is when you can listen to mp3s directly |
| 00:09:59 | rasher | Ah, think I got it now |
| 00:10:22 | preglow | Bagder: grand |
| 00:10:25 | Biptoria | Sweet, love you Linus keep up the good work |
| 00:10:41 | LinusN | preglow: i have some thinking to do regarding the pcm buffering, but i'm closing in |
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| 00:11:27 | preglow | LinusN: yes, i can easily imagine thinking is a lot of the process |
| 00:12:27 | LinusN | i'm not used to using my brain to such an extent... :-) |
| 00:12:31 | * | preglow kicks off another asm() block... |
| 00:12:43 | preglow | LinusN: it's a horrible business indeed |
| 00:12:55 | LinusN | "my brain hurts!" |
| 00:12:56 | Biptoria | Will the rockbox optimize battery usage over the Iriver firmware, or will it be less, or unable to tell at this stage ? |
| 00:13:16 | LinusN | Biptoria: it is likely to be worse to begin with |
| 00:13:17 | Bagder | Biptoria: time will tell ;-) |
| 00:13:28 | preglow | hahaha |
| 00:13:32 | Biptoria | Thats comforting to know |
| 00:13:35 | Biptoria | :| |
| 00:14:02 | preglow | don't expect miracles, but at least there is a bigger potential for improvement with us than with iriver |
| 00:14:10 | preglow | just being opensource ensures that |
| 00:14:15 | LinusN | exactly |
| 00:14:25 | LinusN | i have to get some sleep now |
| 00:14:30 | preglow | later |
| 00:14:35 | LinusN | cu in a few hours |
| 00:14:43 | Biptoria | to be honest all i want is on the fly playlists |
| 00:14:48 | Biptoria | Love you linus, take care |
| 00:14:52 | preglow | Biptoria: well, we've more or less got that already |
| 00:14:59 | Biptoria | Sweet |
| 00:15:06 | preglow | Biptoria: you can make playlists in rockbox that are playable with the iriver firmware |
| 00:15:29 | Biptoria | You guys are too clever |
| 00:15:32 | preglow | Biptoria: so if you can stand a reboot to make a playlist, you've got otf playlists already :P |
| 00:15:54 | Biptoria | makes me wonder what kind of monkeys were developing the irivers |
| 00:16:08 | Biptoria | Oh, so you mean i could actually do that this very second ? |
| 00:16:26 | rasher | Yes. |
| 00:16:31 | rasher | 1. boot rockbox |
| 00:16:34 | rasher | 2. make playlist |
| 00:16:39 | rasher | 3. convert to iriver format |
| 00:16:44 | rasher | 4. boot iriver firmware |
| 00:16:47 | rasher | presto! |
| 00:16:52 | | Part LinusN |
| 00:17:31 | Biptoria | Does this include the computer after the RB F/W has been installed? If not im game for having ago |
| 00:17:51 | rasher | Aw, and here just remembered that I wanted to ask LinusN if he remembered who made the plugin to boot iriver firmware from within rockbox |
| 00:17:58 | * | preglow brews tea |
| 00:18:08 | rasher | Biptoria: not sure what you mean with that? |
| 00:18:09 | preglow | that was ripnetuk, i think |
| 00:18:18 | preglow | either him or hcl |
| 00:18:20 | Bagder | rasher: that code really jut made the same thing the bootloader does when it boots the original fw |
| 00:18:38 | rasher | yeah.. but it's a damn handy feature |
| 00:18:44 | rasher | for now |
| 00:18:58 | preglow | Biptoria: no computer involved |
| 00:19:12 | preglow | Biptoria: you boot rockbox to make the playlists, and then you boot back to iriver firmware to actually play them |
| 00:19:20 | Bagder | rasher: start_iriver_fw() in bootloader/main.c ;-) |
| 00:19:22 | Biptoria | Ok then. Whats the chances of RB screwing the player up at this stage ? |
| 00:19:32 | preglow | Biptoria: we've had no broken players thus far |
| 00:20:00 | Biptoria | Rock onnn!!!! Has a wizard ben made yet to make a F/W file? |
| 00:20:02 | preglow | Biptoria: so i guess 'slim' describes it well |
| 00:20:12 | preglow | Biptoria: yes... but it's not released yet |
| 00:20:19 | rasher | A few slightly corrupted filesystems though, which could *potentially* result in a brick |
| 00:20:26 | thegeek | preglow : which is in fact quite impressive;) |
| 00:20:35 | preglow | indeed |
| 00:20:41 | preglow | goes to tell linus knows his stuff |
| 00:20:45 | thegeek | ;) |
| 00:20:47 | thegeek | mmmhmm |
| 00:21:12 | Biptoria | Any chance of somone giving me this "wizard so i can quickly make it, or just send the F/W ? or is it simple doing it through command line ? |
| 00:22:17 | rasher | IriverBoot in the wiki |
| 00:22:25 | Bagder | we should get the wizard added to CVS, and work out an autobuild for it |
| 00:22:40 | Bagder | to have it working when things go live for real |
| 00:22:43 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 00:22:51 | preglow | Biptoria: i guess i could make you an image |
| 00:23:01 | preglow | Biptoria: i'm not all that keen on spreading the wizard yet |
| 00:23:16 | preglow | Bagder: what build tools are there on the box? my patcher needs mingw, afaik |
| 00:23:44 | Bagder | preglow: I build other win32 tools fine with the mingw cross compiler we use on the box |
| 00:23:54 | preglow | Bagder: then hooray! |
| 00:24:08 | Biptoria | Id be greatful if you could make me the F/W looking at the Iriverboot page, its a little past me |
| 00:24:10 | preglow | Biptoria: what iriver firmware do you use? |
| 00:24:16 | Biptoria | 1.65 |
| 00:24:19 | preglow | euro? |
| 00:24:23 | Biptoria | yes |
| 00:24:25 | preglow | ok |
| 00:24:30 | preglow | give me a few moments and i'll have a look |
| 00:24:35 | Biptoria | cheers |
| 00:24:53 | preglow | Biptoria: but i won't guarantee that your players survives this, i'm just saying it hasn't happened yet |
| 00:24:57 | preglow | Biptoria: if it breaks, that's on you |
| 00:25:26 | Biptoria | yep no problem |
| 00:25:53 | Biptoria | Ive been thinking about getting a smaller one for when im walking any way, its just used as a radio at the moment lol |
| 00:26:08 | preglow | Biptoria: but yes, automated building should be ok enough, it takes a list of good md5sums as a header file, and embeds bootloader.bin directly into the exe as a resource |
| 00:26:15 | preglow | that last is to Bagder |
| 00:26:16 | preglow | sorry |
| 00:26:34 | Bagder | sounds neat |
| 00:26:47 | Biptoria | lol, thats good then, had no idea what you were saying to me |
| 00:26:58 | preglow | i assume the cross compiler tools has windres as well? |
| 00:26:58 | rasher | good md5sums of firmwares and results I hope? |
| 00:27:07 | preglow | rasher: only result |
| 00:27:16 | preglow | rasher: if the firmware is bad, then the result md5 will be bad as well |
| 00:27:50 | rasher | Well yes, but it's nicer to the user to be able to tell him that we don't recognise that firmware isn't it? |
| 00:27:58 | preglow | the only thing i'm concerned about is code reusability, right now, i'm using modified versions of both mkboot.c and iriver.c |
| 00:28:10 | preglow | i couldn't find a nice way to reuse them as they were |
| 00:28:54 | Bagder | preglow: we should work on unifying the sources as much as possible, yes. But it can be done post-first-commit |
| 00:30:13 | preglow | and, i guess we should compile unicode and non-unicode versions of it |
| 00:30:18 | preglow | in case anyone still uses win98 |
| 00:30:26 | preglow | but yeah |
| 00:30:31 | preglow | you tell me where to put it, and i'll put it there |
| 00:30:31 | rasher | I do! |
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| 00:31:15 | Bagder | preglow: what about creating a subdir in tools? |
| 00:31:33 | preglow | Bagder: yeah, sounds like a smart plan, it'll need its own special build system |
| 00:31:45 | Biptoria | Preglow: are you making an image, or shall i follow the boot page |
| 00:31:49 | preglow | Biptoria: working on it |
| 00:32:04 | Biptoria | preglow: cheers |
| 00:33:19 | rasher | I have an image |
| 00:33:29 | rasher | Biptoria: want it by mail? |
| 00:33:47 | Biptoria | rasher: will it work with 1.65 Euro ? |
| 00:34:07 | rasher | this *is* 1.65 euro |
| 00:34:11 | rasher | with the bootloader |
| 00:34:26 | Biptoria | Mail it to johnhargreaves757@hotmail.com thank you |
| 00:34:36 | preglow | i can't match md5 here |
| 00:34:41 | preglow | so take rasher's, if he knows it works |
| 00:35:28 | Biptoria | Can RB be taken off the iriver ? |
| 00:35:39 | preglow | like how? |
| 00:35:58 | rasher | sure, you just flash with an original firmware from iriver |
| 00:36:01 | rasher | unmodified |
| 00:36:04 | Biptoria | Like, once its on can it be taken back off |
| 00:36:06 | Biptoria | I see |
| 00:36:10 | preglow | ahh, yes, sure |
| 00:36:11 | preglow | no problem |
| 00:37:32 | preglow | damn, it was fun doing some rockbox work again |
| 00:37:35 | preglow | i want to do more :-P |
| 00:38:02 | rasher | Biptoria: sent |
| 00:38:07 | rasher | well, almost |
| 00:38:08 | Biptoria | WHy did you stop ? |
| 00:38:14 | Biptoria | cheers rasher |
| 00:38:29 | | Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") |
| 00:38:45 | preglow | rasher: you're not using the wiki bootloader.bin, are you? |
| 00:38:46 | rasher | sending, at least... |
| 00:39:16 | preglow | i can't match the md5 you've listed |
| 00:39:40 | rasher | interesting.. what's your firmware md5? |
| 00:40:39 | preglow | don't know, i only know that it doesn't match :PPP |
| 00:40:42 | preglow | gimme a sec, and i'll find out |
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| 00:41:03 | rasher | I appear to not have the original with me |
| 00:41:51 | preglow | i'm quite confident you built it from cvs |
| 00:41:54 | muesli- | re |
| 00:42:00 | preglow | 'cause i mentioned it wasn't very wise ;) |
| 00:42:17 | rasher | I totally did not |
| 00:42:27 | preglow | then i'm wrong |
| 00:42:41 | rasher | I used the bootloader from wiki |
| 00:42:49 | Biptoria | ok i have the firmware, rashed you said to MD5 sum it or somthing ? |
| 00:43:02 | rasher | yup |
| 00:43:08 | rasher | using windows? |
| 00:43:12 | preglow | ordinary people don't have md5sum, heh |
| 00:43:13 | Biptoria | Whats that mean |
| 00:43:15 | Biptoria | yes |
| 00:43:15 | preglow | you should have zipped it |
| 00:43:35 | rasher | typical |
| 00:43:39 | rasher | >< |
| 00:43:45 | rasher | i'll send again |
| 00:43:51 | Biptoria | Sorry at my stupidness |
| 00:44:00 | preglow | no stupid |
| 00:44:01 | rasher | not really your fault |
| 00:44:08 | preglow | people don't have md5, you're not alone in that, hehe |
| 00:44:45 | preglow | it's just a way of verifying if the file was altered during sending |
| 00:45:04 | Biptoria | i see, thats clever |
| 00:45:05 | preglow | the firmware is checksummed to pieces anyway, so doesn't matter much |
| 00:45:34 | preglow | iriver may be stupid, but they did conceive the possibility of a damaged firmware file |
| 00:46:20 | Biptoria | So in the zip, will it be the correctly named .hex ? Then i upload it to the root directory on the iriver. Then do i go to firmware upgrade like a normal Iriver upgrade would be done ? |
| 00:46:24 | rasher | now how the hell does zip work.. |
| 00:46:33 | Biptoria | LOL |
| 00:46:38 | preglow | should the patcher tool have a checkbox for 'ignore incorrect md5, i know what i'm doing'? :> |
| 00:46:43 | Bagder | rasher: zip newfile.zip addfile1 addfile2 |
| 00:46:49 | Bagder | iirc |
| 00:46:54 | preglow | that's right |
| 00:46:59 | rasher | Biptoria: yes.. hang on |
| 00:46:59 | preglow | Biptoria: that's correct |
| 00:47:16 | Biptoria | Roger that |
| 00:47:31 | rasher | excellent |
| 00:48:22 | preglow | i wonder why all the musepack functions have _float_ in their name |
| 00:48:37 | Biptoria | I have a full battery, do i really need to plug it into the mains ? |
| 00:48:48 | preglow | Biptoria: no, but do so anyway |
| 00:48:57 | Biptoria | lol ok then |
| 00:49:51 | rasher | Sending.. |
| 00:50:03 | Biptoria | there we go, she's plugged into the mains |
| 00:50:12 | Biptoria | rasher: thank you |
| 00:51:34 | rasher | uh-oh... hang on! |
| 00:51:42 | rasher | didn't send right |
| 00:52:07 | preglow | ahh |
| 00:52:12 | rasher | shouldn't extract either, but just to be safe |
| 00:52:20 | preglow | methinks we should actually publish this patcher tool sooner rather than later :P |
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| 00:52:36 | rasher | might be |
| 00:52:57 | Biptoria | Is the latest one you sent safe rasher? or shall i delete it |
| 00:53:11 | rasher | delete both |
| 00:53:17 | muesli- | k |
| 00:53:19 | Biptoria | Okey dokey |
| 00:53:34 | muesli- | whats wrong with them? |
| 00:54:37 | rasher | it errored halfway through sending |
| 00:55:19 | rasher | this one sent correctly :) |
| 00:56:23 | Biptoria | Rasher: it can happily steal my GF at the moment |
| 00:57:03 | rasher | :-O |
| 00:57:14 | Biptoria | lol |
| 00:57:19 | muesli- | so did you dispatched 3 or 2 mails? |
| 00:57:26 | muesli- | @rasher |
| 00:58:12 | rasher | 3 at Biptoria, 2 at you |
| 00:58:29 | muesli- | ah ok |
| 00:58:41 | muesli- | btw the first one had 2182k too |
| 00:59:01 | rasher | oh, it may have been fine |
| 00:59:08 | rasher | just wasn't sure |
| 00:59:34 | rasher | uhm.. now I broke songdb.pl for sure |
| 00:59:43 | rasher | dammit |
| 00:59:53 | Biptoria | Mines 2028kb |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:23 | muesli- | strange |
| 01:00:35 | preglow | come on |
| 01:00:46 | preglow | i'll put it on my web server or something |
| 01:00:56 | preglow | mailing binaries is just evil |
| 01:01:07 | Biptoria | Ok im going to upgrade it now |
| 01:01:07 | rasher | true |
| 01:01:20 | Biptoria | am i still safe ? |
| 01:01:29 | preglow | if it unzips correctly, you probably are |
| 01:01:36 | * | preglow spots several places fit for optimizing |
| 01:01:40 | rasher | if it unzipped fine, chances are pretty good |
| 01:01:48 | muesli- | yepp |
| 01:01:55 | muesli- | think the same |
| 01:01:58 | Biptoria | Yeh it just unzipped straight to the desktop |
| 01:02:10 | muesli- | so it shoudl work fine |
| 01:02:19 | Biptoria | its a 2028kb named IHP_120.hex |
| 01:02:58 | Biptoria | ok ill live on the edge, here we go *presses button* |
| 01:03:07 | muesli- | hehe |
| 01:03:12 | * | muesli- crosses fingers |
| 01:03:23 | Biptoria | Im crossing everything ive got |
| 01:03:37 | Biptoria | It turned off |
| 01:03:43 | muesli- | normal |
| 01:03:46 | Biptoria | Ok now i turn back on ? |
| 01:03:48 | muesli- | press play |
| 01:03:51 | muesli- | yepp |
| 01:03:52 | Biptoria | yep i know |
| 01:04:10 | Biptoria | Nice picturless boot screen |
| 01:04:32 | rasher | did you put the .rockbox dir on your player? |
| 01:04:41 | * | muesli- falls asleep, isdn suuuux |
| 01:05:04 | Biptoria | Rockbox ? |
| 01:05:06 | Biptoria | :| |
| 01:05:37 | Biptoria | Shall i create a folder called rockbox on the player then ? |
| 01:05:47 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h100/rockbox.zip |
| 01:05:48 | muesli- | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h100/rockbox.zip copy its content into your root dir |
| 01:05:55 | rasher | unzip that to the root of your player |
| 01:05:56 | muesli- | first :D |
| 01:06:10 | rasher | not according to my lag :) |
| 01:06:15 | Biptoria | okeh pokeh |
| 01:06:43 | muesli- | pokemon!? :D |
| 01:07:02 | | Join XShocK [0] (~XShocK@pcp09492659pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 01:07:21 | muesli- | morning XShocK |
| 01:07:33 | rasher | Biptoria: without that, rockbox will just boot the original firmware |
| 01:07:51 | XShocK | hi, muesli |
| 01:07:52 | Biptoria | ok then, thats done, shall i turn off turn on again ? |
| 01:08:01 | XShocK | hi all :) |
| 01:08:09 | muesli- | yepp |
| 01:08:32 | * | muesli- prays for a software reset function ;) |
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| 01:08:42 | austriancoder | hi all |
| 01:08:51 | Biptoria | Ahhhhh messing with expensive equipment is so satysfying |
| 01:09:05 | Biptoria | SWEET it says rockbox |
| 01:09:18 | XShocK | hi, austriancoder |
| 01:09:23 | rasher | OMG!!!!1!!!!11111!!!!!!ELEVEN |
| 01:09:55 | rasher | album table lists dirnames.. wtf |
| 01:10:21 | Biptoria | How do i go back a step? |
| 01:10:33 | rasher | press left |
| 01:10:45 | austriancoder | has somebody a emacs tutorial or something else? |
| 01:10:52 | Biptoria | I tried to play a song and it wont do anything |
| 01:10:52 | preglow | austriancoder: emacs is evil! |
| 01:11:00 | preglow | Biptoria: well, duh, rockbox doesn't play music yet, heh |
| 01:11:07 | muesli- | damn..cant test it..my player is still recharging :-/ |
| 01:11:09 | austriancoder | i know.. but it is needed |
| 01:11:17 | Biptoria | I know, i mean if i press left it doesnt go back to the menu |
| 01:11:23 | rasher | Biptoria: stop, then |
| 01:11:37 | rasher | I thought you meant from the other menus/dirbrowser |
| 01:11:37 | Biptoria | aha there we go |
| 01:12:05 | Biptoria | How is a playplist made then |
| 01:12:08 | muesli- | good night fellows |
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| 01:12:55 | austriancoder | preglow: have you some docs and other stuff about emacs? |
| 01:13:17 | Biptoria | Playlist# |
| 01:13:22 | preglow | i know nothing of emacs, and intend to keep it that way |
| 01:13:22 | | Part MoosCamaro |
| 01:13:46 | austriancoder | ok |
| 01:14:14 | Biptoria | Playlists anyone ? |
| 01:14:29 | Biptoria | oh i found the menu thing |
| 01:14:42 | rasher | have a look at the manual if you're in doubt |
| 01:14:49 | rasher | but just play around with it really |
| 01:14:59 | Biptoria | i prefer to play |
| 01:15:13 | Biptoria | I notice it is very fast |
| 01:15:45 | Biptoria | Is the radio working in RB? |
| 01:17:15 | Biptoria | Oh this is awesome, even change my font :D |
| 01:17:37 | rasher | yes.. the fonts are great |
| 01:18:06 | HCl | don't forget the gameboy emulator |
| 01:18:07 | HCl | >.> |
| 01:18:18 | rasher | No, please don't |
| 01:18:45 | Biptoria | Gameboy emulator |
| 01:18:46 | Biptoria | ? |
| 01:20:10 | Biptoria | omg im going to wet myself this is so good ! |
| 01:20:14 | rasher | Absolutely |
| 01:21:11 | * | rasher beats up songdb.pl |
| 01:21:15 | rasher | WORK, silly |
| 01:21:25 | Biptoria | oh wow, everuythings been thought of ! this is so good ! |
| 01:22:07 | Biptoria | even tells me my Batterys MAH |
| 01:24:00 | Biptoria | a calculator *drools* |
| 01:24:16 | Biptoria | It does more than my computer! |
| 01:24:35 | rasher | haha |
| 01:24:49 | Biptoria | and it even said bye to me |
| 01:25:07 | rasher | think I'll start over with songdb.pl |
| 01:25:21 | * | rasher cries |
| 01:26:16 | Biptoria | i just did a battery test it says 16:49, is that the players uptime ? |
| 01:27:22 | preglow | why does gcc do this to me |
| 01:29:07 | rasher | The battery test plugin doesn't really work with iriver |
| 01:29:24 | HCl | maybe we should remove it from getting built for iriver then? |
| 01:29:25 | Biptoria | Pong doesnt work too good lol |
| 01:29:28 | preglow | arghhh!!! |
| 01:29:34 | HCl | wasn't pong fixed? |
| 01:29:58 | Biptoria | lol one side doesnt even move |
| 01:30:48 | rasher | that's because it's 2-player |
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| 01:30:54 | rasher | and uses wacky keys :) |
| 01:31:13 | * | HCl imagines two people prying on an iriver and shakes his head solemnly |
| 01:31:24 | Biptoria | 2 player pong on an MP3 player? lol |
| 01:31:32 | HCl | who thought that up anyways? |
| 01:31:53 | Biptoria | SNake 2 is quality |
| 01:31:59 | Cor | Hiya |
| 01:32:05 | HCl | is snake 2 even adjusted for iriver yet? |
| 01:32:06 | Cor | wow this place is busy nowadays |
| 01:32:24 | Biptoria | Screens a little small, better than snake 1 tho |
| 01:33:02 | Biptoria | Snow,,,,,ive seen it all now |
| 01:33:21 | rasher | hcl: could work with remote |
| 01:33:22 | HCl | have you used the gameboy emulator yet? :3 |
| 01:33:25 | HCl | rasher: true. |
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| 01:34:32 | Biptoria | Dont know hwo to get to a gameboy emu |
| 01:34:43 | HCl | put a gameboy rom on it.. |
| 01:34:49 | rasher | you need to find a gameboy rom, then you just "play" that |
| 01:34:56 | Cor | isn't the GB emu supposed to work on V1 Recorders too ? |
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| 01:35:18 | rasher | barely |
| 01:35:32 | Biptoria | Whats a good gameboy game then |
| 01:36:13 | Cor | k cool, but i couldn't get it to load the 2 games i tried |
| 01:36:40 | preglow | ARGH |
| 01:36:48 | preglow | bloody gcc refuses to do inline asm correctly |
| 01:36:53 | preglow | i love being forced to write entire functions in asm |
| 01:36:54 | Biptoria | Does a V1 recorder have enough power to run an emu? |
| 01:37:18 | HCl | mario works well |
| 01:37:18 | preglow | Biptoria: if you're not very picky about stuff like responsiveness and frame rate, then yes! most certainly |
| 01:37:51 | Cor | do most games work ? |
| 01:37:55 | Biptoria | I dont actually own a V1 recorder.... mind lol |
| 01:37:57 | XShocK | two irivers connected through SPDIF or even just audio cables.. multiplayer ping pong will rule. :) |
| 01:38:06 | Biptoria | just interested |
| 01:38:16 | Biptoria | LMAO |
| 01:39:05 | Biptoria | Do Game boy Advance Roms work ? |
| 01:39:20 | HCl | no |
| 01:39:25 | rasher | XShocK think that's doable? |
| 01:39:41 | Biptoria | how about gameboy color? |
| 01:39:49 | preglow | rasher: sure |
| 01:39:56 | Biptoria | i can only find gameboy color and gameboy advance roms |
| 01:40:01 | rasher | I guess |
| 01:40:04 | HCl | gameboy color |
| 01:40:33 | Biptoria | Grand theft auto, omg if this work ill die |
| 01:40:46 | Cor | i tried metroid2 and 1943 to no avail |
| 01:41:00 | XShocK | rasher, mmm not really with audio cable. might be possible with spdif since we need both input and output, while there is only one UDA1380 audio chip |
| 01:41:50 | preglow | no full duplex audio? |
| 01:42:05 | preglow | so, the recording passthrough is a feature of the uda1380, then? |
| 01:42:06 | XShocK | i will check, not sure thou.. |
| 01:42:23 | preglow | you can listen to whatever you record while you record it with iriver firmware |
| 01:42:30 | preglow | but that might be a uda hardware feature |
| 01:42:41 | XShocK | preglolw, hmm, i guess you are right about it. |
| 01:43:34 | Biptoria | Can i delete this thing called battery.dummy in my root directory also one called battery.txt |
| 01:43:42 | preglow | yes |
| 01:43:55 | preglow | only thing you shouldn't delete is rockbox.iriver and .rockbox directory |
| 01:44:02 | preglow | and it's no disaster if you manage that either |
| 01:44:03 | Cor | any Dev's round i could bug about a feature change ? |
| 01:44:20 | Biptoria | ok kool, so i can delete the h120.hex thing ? |
| 01:44:20 | preglow | what feature? |
| 01:44:24 | preglow | Biptoria: yeah |
| 01:44:33 | Cor | i'd like to have a 'Remove from Playlist' or atleast 'View Playlist' from on play menu |
| 01:45:01 | Cor | *on(plus)play menu |
| 01:45:14 | Biptoria | Where shud i put the GBA rom, anywhere ? |
| 01:45:51 | preglow | anywhere |
| 01:46:11 | Biptoria | OMG OMG OMG this is so good |
| 01:46:15 | Cor | ...without having to go into the F1 main menu and down to playlist options and down to view playlist |
| 01:47:35 | XShocK | preglow, i guess it supports full-duplex. |
| 01:47:43 | HCl | not gba, gbc |
| 01:48:07 | Biptoria | Question, i just unplugged my USB cable from the iriver, everytime i touch the end of the USB it buzzes in the headphones linked to my iriver :| |
| 01:48:14 | XShocK | i never thought about it before. |
| 01:48:25 | XShocK | * go to eat |
| 01:48:51 | Biptoria | Yes its a GBC i think :| |
| 01:48:59 | Biptoria | yes GBC |
| 01:49:29 | Biptoria | It doesnt show the files where i put them ? or do i have to reboot |
| 01:51:22 | austriancoder | good night all |
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| 01:51:32 | preglow | Biptoria: you need to go in settings and make rockbox show all file types |
| 01:51:46 | Biptoria | Hold button doesnt work |
| 01:52:02 | Biptoria | Setting within iriver, or on the comp |
| 01:52:08 | preglow | in rockbox |
| 01:52:54 | Biptoria | Job done |
| 01:53:29 | Biptoria | OMG OMG im playing GTA |
| 01:53:49 | Biptoria | its making some terrbile noises tho |
| 01:55:02 | preglow | yeah, it's not fast enough yet |
| 01:55:12 | preglow | but i need to go to bed and hope this headache vanishes |
| 01:55:22 | HCl | xD |
| 01:55:24 | HCl | okay okay |
| 01:55:29 | HCl | i'll look at the dynarec tomorrow... |
| 01:55:46 | preglow | HCl: i think looking at moving some parts to iram is more important |
| 01:55:51 | preglow | but this bed... |
| 01:55:53 | preglow | night all |
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| 01:56:09 | HCl | i already have stuff in iram. |
| 01:56:52 | Biptoria | FPS in rockboy is quite slow |
| 01:58:26 | rasher | oh, now I get it... dang |
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| 01:58:39 | HCl | ? |
| 01:59:24 | Biptoria | Can i delete files within rockbox |
| 01:59:29 | HCl | yes. |
| 01:59:42 | Biptoria | What to press old chap |
| 01:59:50 | HCl | i'm not 100% sure |
| 01:59:55 | rasher | hold the joystick down |
| 01:59:55 | HCl | but i think you hold the joystick button |
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| 02:00:04 | rasher | pick delete |
| 02:00:05 | Biptoria | very nice |
| 02:00:13 | rasher | and when it says "play to delete" ... , don't push play |
| 02:00:17 | XShocK | came back |
| 02:00:22 | rasher | push the joystick instead |
| 02:00:30 | Biptoria | lol rasher ta |
| 02:00:43 | Biptoria | wat happens if i press playu |
| 02:00:52 | rasher | nothing |
| 02:01:03 | rasher | the text is wrong |
| 02:01:16 | Biptoria | ok then |
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| 02:03:22 | * | HCl shivers. |
| 02:03:31 | HCl | having a gay flatmate is scary x.x; |
| 02:03:50 | Biptoria | omg lol |
| 02:04:04 | Biptoria | that was random HCI... |
| 02:04:08 | HCl | lmao, sorry. |
| 02:04:10 | HCl | he walked past |
| 02:04:11 | HCl | and. |
| 02:04:17 | HCl | i knew he had a guest from 1 to 2 am |
| 02:04:24 | HCl | and the scary part is that they seem to be leaving |
| 02:04:31 | Biptoria | ewwwwwwwww |
| 02:04:32 | HCl | and i wonder wth kind of people visit from 1 to 2 am |
| 02:04:46 | HCl | and i definately don't want to know what they did in the room next to me x.x |
| 02:04:52 | Biptoria | Disturbing |
| 02:04:55 | HCl | mhm. |
| 02:05:36 | Biptoria | Ive got a DIR called RECORD and one new one called recordings, can i delete recordings ? |
| 02:05:50 | XShocK | i never had any SPDIF equipment, and i have no idea of how fast it can be, but i guess several tens of kb/s will be possible |
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| 02:07:39 | Biptoria | I have no idea how i create the playlist, it just said it was creating a root |
| 02:08:02 | Biptoria | then counted up |
| 02:10:00 | Cor | sounds like u did a 'create playlist' while browsing the root dir. |
| 02:10:07 | Biptoria | Yes :| |
| 02:10:43 | rasher | ghod.. this is going to be worse than I had thought |
| 02:11:19 | Cor | all the playlist features were a bit confusing to me until i re-read that section in the manual a few times |
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| 02:11:50 | * | HCl shivers |
| 02:11:51 | Biptoria | Wheres the manual, could be sueful |
| 02:11:54 | HCl | he returned x.x; |
| 02:11:56 | Biptoria | useful# |
| 02:12:44 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex |
| 02:12:45 | Biptoria | oh, you fixed the hardrive spinning bug from the iriver? |
| 02:12:56 | Biptoria | cheers |
| 02:13:01 | HCl | omg no >.<; |
| 02:13:08 | HCl | my flatmate just asked me for a 1 euro coin. |
| 02:13:16 | HCl | and i asked whether i wanted to know what its supposed to be fore |
| 02:13:18 | HCl | for* |
| 02:13:19 | HCl | and he said no. |
| 02:13:23 | HCl | and i think i can guess >.<; |
| 02:14:36 | Biptoria | I think you need a new flatmate |
| 02:14:56 | Biptoria | 1 euro coin ? :| what cud u do with that |
| 02:14:59 | HCl | yes. well. its not that easy unfortunately. |
| 02:15:07 | HCl | condom dispenser on the campus >.<;;;;; |
| 02:15:20 | HCl | gah |
| 02:15:24 | Biptoria | omg |
| 02:15:36 | * | HCl has fleeing instincts. |
| 02:15:39 | HCl | i need to get my headphones |
| 02:15:45 | Biptoria | lmao |
| 02:15:47 | HCl | i so do not want to risk hearing anything coming from the room next to mine |
| 02:17:34 | HCl | fortunately we have 2 foot soundproof walls inbetween >.< |
| 02:18:12 | Biptoria | you just never know how many decibels 2 gay men may reach tho |
| 02:18:17 | rasher | hrm, maybe I fixed the songdb.pl |
| 02:18:28 | Biptoria | gud on yer rasher |
| 02:19:47 | Biptoria | I think i worked out how to creat a playlist, i find the song/dir i want, hold down joystick, playlist, insert ? then after all desired songs added, create playlist ? |
| 02:20:42 | rasher | Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 1 |
| 02:20:46 | rasher | erp |
| 02:21:37 | rasher | oh of course |
| 02:21:38 | Biptoria | Can i delete the songs from a play list, i think i added the sem DIR 2 times |
| 02:21:45 | rasher | ran out of battery |
| 02:22:11 | rasher | yeah.. open the playlist... I forget how that's done.. through the menu I think |
| 02:22:16 | Biptoria | damn i must be gettin tired, my visions going wonky |
| 02:23:33 | Biptoria | EHHHHH i went to create the playlist and its creating it of the Root DIR agen |
| 02:26:27 | rasher | fun |
| 02:26:59 | rasher | read the manual, I guess |
| 02:27:03 | Biptoria | Theres a glitch in the playlist thing |
| 02:27:11 | rasher | I don't really know the playlist functions |
| 02:27:15 | Biptoria | It keeps adding a directory twice |
| 02:28:03 | Biptoria | RIght im going to lie down in bed and work this through, Night all |
| 02:28:10 | Biptoria | Thank you all for your help, i will be back |
| 02:28:35 | Biptoria | HCI good luck with the gays and rasher hope you fix your probs soon |
| 02:29:27 | Biptoria | Before i go |
| 02:29:40 | Biptoria | how the hell do i boot back into Iriver lol ? |
| 02:30:10 | rasher | hold record when turning on |
| 02:30:16 | rasher | or turn it on using the remote |
| 02:30:26 | rasher | both will boot the iriver firmware |
| 02:30:49 | Biptoria | top stuff, thank you matey |
| 02:30:53 | Biptoria | Take care now |
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| 03:51:23 | Cor | or instead, having FF/RW & 'Delete File' from 'View Playlist' would be nice too =] |
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| 08:31:28 | webguest90 | Hey, anyone know why when I upload MP3s to my Archos Jukebox Studio 20 they do not appear when I am browsing through the player? They are showing up when I browse it within windows. |
| 08:31:55 | LinusN | strange |
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| 08:32:09 | LinusN | did you do a "safely unplug"? |
| 08:32:32 | webguest90 | yes |
| 08:32:55 | LinusN | can you describe your exact steps when you upload? |
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| 08:33:21 | webguest90 | ya |
| 08:33:26 | webguest90 | i plug it in through usb |
| 08:33:28 | webguest90 | open the drive |
| 08:33:52 | webguest90 | and place a folder with about 15 mp3s in it |
| 08:33:58 | webguest90 | folder doesnt show up |
| 08:34:12 | webguest90 | but its still there when i browse through windows |
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| 08:34:49 | LinusN | which firmware do you use? |
| 08:35:28 | webguest90 | latest rockbox |
| 08:35:40 | LinusN | no error message in rockbox? |
| 08:35:45 | webguest90 | nope |
| 08:35:58 | webguest90 | ive had the player for a few years |
| 08:36:00 | LinusN | can you see it if you restart rockbox? |
| 08:36:02 | webguest90 | first time this has happened heh |
| 08:44:29 | webguest90 | that worked lol, im an idiot =D, thanks for the help |
| 08:45:04 | LinusN | well, you shouldn't have to restart rockbox... |
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| 09:19:08 | bobTHC | mornin' all! |
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| 09:31:37 | MoosCamaro | hey all, good morning |
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| 09:36:13 | bobTHC | hi |
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| 09:37:08 | MoosCamaro | hi Bob |
| 09:38:00 | MoosCamaro | BobTHC: THC is for Tetra Hydro Canabinol? |
| 09:38:52 | bobTHC | fo sure |
| 09:38:58 | bobTHC | s/fo/for |
| 09:39:05 | MoosCamaro | :) |
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| 10:12:42 | LinusN | hi B4gder |
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| 10:13:51 | B4gder | hi ho |
| 10:14:29 | LinusN | hacking linux drivers? |
| 10:14:40 | B4gder | yepso |
| 10:14:49 | LinusN | any progress? |
| 10:15:23 | B4gder | slowly, we have such long round-trips for install, test, fix, install again etc |
| 10:15:37 | B4gder | and crappy debug abilities |
| 10:15:39 | LinusN | tedious |
| 10:15:47 | ashridah | B4gder: drivers for what, specifically? |
| 10:15:51 | B4gder | and things are weird ;-) |
| 10:16:03 | B4gder | framebuffer drivers for Linux PPC |
| 10:16:08 | ashridah | ah. |
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| 10:16:27 | ashridah | because some devices are amenable to using user-mode-linux with odd passthroughs iirc, but video probably isn't one of them |
| 10:16:29 | B4gder | for a specific display controller my customer makes |
| 10:18:23 | B4gder | I need the hardware access anyway |
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| 10:27:45 | preglow | methinks gcc still has some bugs in the inline asm department |
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| 11:39:10 | t0mas | hi |
| 11:39:22 | bobTHC | hi |
| 11:39:27 | t0mas | Anybody here knowing the boot argument to disable scsi in linux? |
| 11:39:36 | t0mas | I have a box hanging on detecting scsi drives... |
| 11:45:41 | ashridah | hrm. don't think there is one |
| 11:46:30 | t0mas | damn... |
| 11:51:13 | t0mas | well.. tnx |
| 11:51:16 | t0mas | gotta work |
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| 11:57:42 | preglow | how bloody likely is it that 1 32x32 bit mul and one load takes _ONE_ cycle? |
| 11:59:19 | preglow | no, i misread, TWO, but i still think that sounds too low |
| 11:59:25 | LinusN | it could, if the bus doesn't have any wait states |
| 11:59:43 | preglow | no, the timing doesn't account for the memory |
| 11:59:51 | LinusN | that's what i'm saying |
| 11:59:54 | preglow | the timing information is inconsistent |
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| 12:00:04 | preglow | one doc says 4 cycles for a 32x32 bit mul with a load |
| 12:00:07 | preglow | another says 2 cycles |
| 12:00:12 | preglow | i'm inclined towards 4 |
| 12:00:54 | preglow | but i guess it doesn't matter anyway, 4 cycles is still better than doing the muls in two stages with the ordinary mul instruction |
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| 12:20:14 | rasher | Hola |
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| 12:35:06 | preglow | macl %d0, %fp, %fp@(384), %fp |
| 12:35:10 | preglow | why does gcc do this to me? |
| 12:37:02 | rasher | because you're a very special boy |
| 12:37:12 | rasher | (I've no idea, obviously) |
| 12:38:02 | preglow | that line more or less says multiply %d0 by %fp, then move value at address %fp + 384 to %fp... |
| 12:38:16 | preglow | which is not what i want |
| 12:38:17 | preglow | bah |
| 12:38:31 | rasher | fun |
| 12:38:37 | rasher | more handcoding! |
| 12:38:46 | preglow | yes, exactly |
| 12:38:53 | preglow | i have to hand code entire functions, when a small loop is all i require |
| 12:39:10 | rasher | tragic |
| 12:39:16 | rasher | this is musepac? |
| 12:42:33 | rasher | haha, forgot about this one: alias :q='exit' |
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| 12:46:24 | preglow | musepack, yes |
| 12:46:38 | preglow | but i'll go bah, now |
| 12:46:47 | preglow | and start on commiting the libmad stuff instad |
| 12:47:12 | rasher | heh |
| 12:51:05 | * | B4gder goes printf()-style debugging in the kernel |
| 12:51:23 | rasher | sounds annoying |
| 12:51:28 | B4gder | it is |
| 12:51:36 | rasher | in other news, I realized last night that the albumid wasn't just used as an index |
| 12:51:48 | rasher | which was what I thought |
| 12:52:02 | rasher | but it's actually used to extract the album and artist later on |
| 12:52:02 | B4gder | :-) |
| 12:52:13 | rasher | small wonder I got weird results |
| 12:54:23 | B4gder | I noticed your commit |
| 12:54:39 | rasher | Yeah.. finally figured out what was wrong |
| 12:55:20 | rasher | Guess I'll have to make it so that the albumid is just used to group songs together, and not convey any information for the other change to work |
| 12:58:10 | * | rasher listens to iriver-thumb.mpc |
| 12:58:17 | rasher | sounds alright |
| 12:58:17 | preglow | thumb? |
| 12:58:22 | rasher | lowest quality |
| 12:58:26 | preglow | bitrate? |
| 12:58:33 | rasher | not sure |
| 12:58:44 | preglow | i don't see the point in using mpc for lower bitrate stuff |
| 12:58:50 | rasher | slightly larger than -q1 ogg |
| 12:58:53 | preglow | it sounds worse than vorbis at lower bitrates |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:54 | rasher | supermario sure sounds horrible |
| 13:23:02 | preglow | you mean rockboy? |
| 13:24:02 | rasher | yes |
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| 13:29:19 | * | rasher gets an idea |
| 13:29:24 | rasher | has one, rather |
| 13:31:24 | rasher | Hrm... annoying side-effect |
| 13:31:51 | Sebulba02 | of thinking? |
| 13:31:57 | rasher | no, of my fix |
| 13:32:02 | Sebulba02 | oh |
| 13:32:10 | rasher | to songdb.pl |
| 13:32:17 | rasher | it is now behaving like I wanted |
| 13:32:27 | rasher | just hadn't thought of this |
| 13:33:10 | Sebulba02 | I see. |
| 13:34:07 | rasher | guess I need special handling of "<no album tag>" ... somehow |
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| 14:12:39 | | Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe_@65.115.46.225) |
| 14:15:15 | | Join Biptoria [0] (~5198270f@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:16:58 | Biptoria | Anyone around ? |
| 14:17:12 | B4gder | yeps |
| 14:17:48 | bobTHC | ? |
| 14:17:58 | Biptoria | When i create a playlist in RB and reboot to IR it says Playlist error ? |
| 14:18:16 | B4gder | you need to run iriverify on it first |
| 14:18:41 | Biptoria | Ok, how does one get to Iriververify |
| 14:18:49 | Biptoria | Open with ? |
| 14:18:53 | rasher | yup |
| 14:19:04 | Biptoria | Got it |
| 14:19:07 | Biptoria | Hey rasher |
| 14:19:14 | rasher | hola |
| 14:19:29 | Biptoria | ok here it goes |
| 14:19:54 | rasher | B4gder: I now have a version that's working.. except "<no album tag>" gets treated as a multi-artist cd as well (lots of files with no album tag in one dir > huge multi-artist cd :) |
| 14:19:56 | Biptoria | My player crashed for the first time last night after going to ID3 tag info or somthing |
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| 14:20:21 | B4gder | rasher: maybe that needs to be a special case |
| 14:20:32 | rasher | That's my guess |
| 14:20:42 | Biptoria | you little beauties, i have On the fly playlists *dances* |
| 14:21:01 | rasher | Since whenever the album tag *is* set, you can be fairly sure that songs with matching tag dir belong to the same cd |
| 14:21:16 | rasher | But I'm not sure how to go on from here |
| 14:22:19 | rasher | Maybe the displaying code should also show artists when in "album" mode, if there are different artists on the album |
| 14:25:10 | Biptoria | How can i get to the search function without going through open with |
| 14:26:31 | Biptoria | Everytime i press on Show ID3 info the player crashes ? |
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| 14:27:08 | muesli- | hi |
| 14:27:24 | Biptoria | Hello breakfast cereal |
| 14:27:29 | muesli- | :D |
| 14:27:38 | muesli- | is your fw working well? |
| 14:28:22 | Biptoria | Yes its working good now, crashes when i go to Show ID3 info, suspect it isnt setup properly yet |
| 14:28:52 | muesli- | didnt have a look at this |
| 14:29:17 | Biptoria | The batterys gone from 96 to 98 lol |
| 14:29:17 | muesli- | i am only keen for sound for rockboy ;) |
| 14:30:04 | Biptoria | yeh, i deleted my GBC roms last night, sound was painful |
| 14:30:08 | rasher | yeah, the battery meter fluctuates a bit, but I'm fairly sure the same happens with iRiver |
| 14:30:24 | Biptoria | its gone to 100 now |
| 14:30:43 | Biptoria | Ill be getting worried when it goes to 106 |
| 14:30:50 | rasher | Won't happen |
| 14:31:04 | muesli- | sometime irivers battery indicator indicated that battery was empty but i could with rockbox for another 1/2 h |
| 14:31:13 | Biptoria | sweet |
| 14:31:47 | Biptoria | Whats DEBUG (keep out!!) |
| 14:31:57 | Biptoria | the keep out part makes me wanna go in |
| 14:32:04 | B4gder | go go go |
| 14:32:11 | B4gder | :-) |
| 14:32:15 | Biptoria | no |
| 14:32:20 | Biptoria | it says keep out |
| 14:32:25 | muesli- | rasher: will there be a built including those grayscale version? |
| 14:32:54 | Biptoria | wow theres a lot of techy stuff in the debug |
| 14:33:29 | rasher | You went in! |
| 14:33:38 | Biptoria | i think i just changed somthign called boost frequency |
| 14:33:56 | muesli- | and he is not supposed to do so... |
| 14:34:34 | rasher | Biptoria: press up and down will change the cpu frequency from 48 to 120 |
| 14:34:54 | rasher | (and back) |
| 14:35:00 | Biptoria | it was set at 0 when i entered |
| 14:35:21 | rasher | yeah.. that's the counter to how many times "boost" was called |
| 14:35:58 | Biptoria | i still cant find the search function |
| 14:36:05 | rasher | so if something needs more power, it calls the boost function and the cpu will be set to 120mhz, and back again when it no longer needs power |
| 14:36:18 | Biptoria | i see |
| 14:38:33 | Biptoria | Damn id love to be able to code |
| 14:38:47 | muesli- | rasher: will there be a built including those grayscale version? |
| 14:39:05 | Biptoria | Think my IE is gonna crash brb |
| 14:39:09 | rasher | Not for a while.. the grayscale patch is unfinished |
| 14:39:44 | rasher | and it may not get done at all, because the entire graphics handling in Rockbox is possibly going to be re-done |
| 14:39:44 | Biptoria | RB isnt recognizing the USB cable ? |
| 14:40:01 | rasher | did you turn on screenshot? |
| 14:40:09 | Biptoria | probably :| |
| 14:40:11 | muesli- | mmh.. |
| 14:40:22 | rasher | go into the debug menu and turn it off |
| 14:40:55 | Biptoria | Cheers rasher |
| 14:41:26 | Biptoria | kool it made screendumps, thats neat |
| 14:42:05 | muesli- | l8er ladiez |
| 14:42:07 | | Quit muesli- ("ich will Kühe!!!") |
| 14:46:12 | Biptoria | When i search for .M3U playlists on the computer, ones i made with RB dont show? |
| 14:46:55 | rasher | uh |
| 14:47:00 | rasher | searching case-sensitive? |
| 14:47:20 | Biptoria | Ill have a fiddle |
| 14:47:56 | Biptoria | no it just wont find it |
| 14:48:18 | rasher | B4gder: I'm not sure how to continue.. want me to commit what I have now? |
| 14:48:31 | rasher | or would you like a look at it first? |
| 14:48:49 | rasher | Biptoria.. like.. not at all? What if you search for the filename instead? |
| 14:49:09 | Biptoria | Yeh i searched the filename and the extensions and it just isnt there |
| 14:49:11 | B4gder | rasher: go ahead and commit |
| 14:49:46 | Biptoria | Hold on, i know why now, i deleted it lmao |
| 14:51:07 | Biptoria | There we go found it, id be dangerous if i had a brain |
| 14:51:29 | rasher | Haha |
| 14:51:50 | Biptoria | Rockbox is far faster than irivers F/W |
| 14:52:36 | Biptoria | Just opening a music file over USB seems faster than iriver |
| 14:52:47 | LinusN | can't be |
| 14:52:50 | rasher | That's probably placebo |
| 14:52:58 | rasher | or something entirely else :) |
| 14:53:07 | rasher | comitted |
| 14:53:13 | preglow | it _is_ placebo, since it is impossible |
| 14:53:13 | preglow | heh |
| 14:53:47 | Biptoria | Placebo ? |
| 14:53:59 | Biptoria | Im a gonna try opening a file on USB with rivers then |
| 14:54:11 | preglow | it's just imaginary, from the moment you insert the usb plug, rockbox releases all control over the hardware |
| 14:54:13 | rasher | You're probably imagining things.. it's got nothing to do with your player at least |
| 14:54:16 | preglow | over the disk hardware, at least |
| 14:55:39 | Biptoria | Will the hold button work in RB in future releases? |
| 14:55:42 | preglow | sure |
| 14:55:52 | rasher | preglow: you're a hero on HA :) |
| 14:56:01 | preglow | i am? |
| 14:56:09 | bobTHC | lol |
| 14:56:25 | Biptoria | No its just as fast |
| 14:57:32 | rasher | Sure you are, http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=27390&view=findpost&p=290070 |
| 14:57:43 | rasher | uh |
| 14:57:45 | rasher | http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=27390&st=50&p=290070&#entry290070 |
| 14:58:29 | preglow | i see no official "let's send money to preglow" thread yet! |
| 14:58:44 | rasher | hah |
| 14:58:55 | rasher | Give it time |
| 14:59:08 | preglow | but yes |
| 14:59:13 | preglow | a couple of libmad commits coming up |
| 14:59:17 | * | rasher shakes his fist at convbdf |
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| 15:00:43 | elinenbe | preglow: what's the speed of libmad on the target? |
| 15:01:11 | rasher | I simply can't figure out why it won't accept this font |
| 15:03:04 | preglow | elinenbe: 80-85% at 320kbps at 40mhz |
| 15:03:23 | preglow | after this commit, at least |
| 15:04:08 | elinenbe | what about 128kbps? |
| 15:04:21 | elinenbe | preglow: you are doing some nice work... congrats! |
| 15:07:16 | preglow | 128k is running at around 105% |
| 15:07:19 | Biptoria | is anyone working on MP3? |
| 15:07:25 | preglow | Biptoria: me |
| 15:07:35 | Biptoria | Go preglow go preglow |
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| 15:07:41 | preglow | preglow has little more time to spen |
| 15:07:43 | preglow | d |
| 15:07:43 | preglow | heh |
| 15:07:54 | Biptoria | Is it anywhere near realtime yet ? |
| 15:08:00 | preglow | Biptoria: well, yes, it's above realtime |
| 15:08:08 | preglow | Biptoria: but it needs to be faster |
| 15:08:19 | Biptoria | :| how come :'( |
| 15:08:23 | preglow | why the hell does cvs commit insist mpa2wav is changed when cvs diff reports no differences? |
| 15:08:48 | preglow | Biptoria: the codecs need to be at least 200% realtime, we're aiming for 300% |
| 15:09:16 | bobTHC | preglow> 300% @ 40Mhz ? |
| 15:09:20 | B4gder | preglow: make an extra 'cvs up' and it'll be ok then |
| 15:09:38 | preglow | bobTHC: nah, at whatever we'll be running it at |
| 15:10:06 | Biptoria | you could be there forever trying to get it to 300% |
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| 15:10:19 | preglow | there's lots left to do |
| 15:10:19 | Biptoria | What would happen if you used it with 105%? |
| 15:10:27 | preglow | it's 270% realtime for 128 kbps now |
| 15:10:40 | Biptoria | So its useable ? |
| 15:10:47 | preglow | and as i said, i know of plenty of places to optimize |
| 15:10:54 | preglow | time is more critical, as i'm the only one working on it |
| 15:11:00 | preglow | and i have little time for rockbox now |
| 15:11:06 | rasher | *sniff* |
| 15:11:26 | bobTHC | preglow> :) if u succeed 300% @40Mhz it's not optimization its sorcery |
| 15:11:39 | preglow | bobTHC: and i'm no sorcerer, so don't expect that, heh |
| 15:11:41 | Biptoria | Why are you the only one ? |
| 15:12:23 | B4gder | because people are busy or lazy |
| 15:12:36 | Biptoria | Id love to help you |
| 15:12:44 | B4gder | join in |
| 15:13:00 | Biptoria | I dont have the brain capacity |
| 15:13:08 | B4gder | BTW, I've now modified how the changelog for cvs build entries are made |
| 15:13:17 | B4gder | if you check the top time stamp link |
| 15:13:40 | rasher | looks nice |
| 15:13:50 | B4gder | it uses the same script the front page does |
| 15:13:56 | rasher | I hereby declare that convbdf has insaned |
| 15:14:01 | preglow | looks very nice |
| 15:14:16 | Biptoria | Can RB utilize the FM radio yet ? |
| 15:14:19 | preglow | no |
| 15:14:29 | rasher | But that'll be one of the easier tasks |
| 15:14:43 | rasher | since it's using the same radio chip as the archos units |
| 15:14:47 | rasher | (I think?) |
| 15:14:50 | LinusN | yes |
| 15:15:07 | Harpy | btw. is the usb2go or whatnot a firmware feature, or does it need some kind of special hardware? |
| 15:15:07 | Biptoria | Get in there |
| 15:15:20 | LinusN | Harpy: special hardware |
| 15:15:27 | rasher | Harpy: Needs hardware support.. won't be possible on h100s |
| 15:15:27 | Harpy | ok |
| 15:15:41 | preglow | LinusN: do you know if the uda does full duplex audio? |
| 15:15:54 | LinusN | i think it does |
| 15:16:21 | preglow | i know the iriver firmware lets you monitor what you record |
| 15:16:32 | preglow | but that may very well be a uda specific passthrough option |
| 15:17:14 | preglow | let's see if i can avoid breaking any builds again |
| 15:17:47 | rasher | heh |
| 15:21:10 | rasher | ah, got it! |
| 15:21:38 | rasher | FONT_DESCENT may not be <0 |
| 15:21:43 | rasher | and it is |
| 15:22:02 | * | Biptoria brb my little monkeys |
| 15:24:52 | bobTHC | do u think it's possible to adjust the frequency(40->120 or 120->40 ) while playing audio without silent gap? |
| 15:26:50 | preglow | yes |
| 15:27:02 | preglow | hmm, or wait |
| 15:27:04 | preglow | i wouldn't know |
| 15:27:18 | preglow | i certainly hope so :P |
| 15:27:29 | bobTHC | me too, it's why i ask |
| 15:27:32 | bobTHC | ;) |
| 15:29:12 | LinusN | it's possible |
| 15:30:31 | preglow | so the dma can operate with an unstable clock? |
| 15:30:43 | preglow | it operates on the external clock, perhaps? |
| 15:31:30 | preglow | wow, not as much as an extra warning |
| 15:32:10 | LinusN | the audio interface uses the external clock, yes |
| 15:32:38 | rasher | preglow: good job :) |
| 15:33:34 | preglow | yes, but then the ram has to use the external clock as well, yes? |
| 15:33:55 | preglow | and i thought the mcf5249 had an internal sdram interface |
| 15:34:15 | LinusN | don't confuse the dma and the audio serial interface |
| 15:34:43 | Biptoria | calm down linus |
| 15:35:16 | LinusN | the dram controller uses the internal clock |
| 15:35:19 | * | rasher creates bootiriver.rock |
| 15:35:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:35:25 | rasher | or tries.. |
| 15:35:42 | rasher | LinusN: do I just rip out start_iriver_fw from the bootloader? |
| 15:35:50 | LinusN | rasher: sure |
| 15:36:06 | rasher | excellent |
| 15:36:11 | Biptoria | Sooner you make the F/W maker wizard the better |
| 15:36:48 | preglow | it is made |
| 15:36:49 | preglow | heh |
| 15:36:58 | preglow | oh, right, i was supposed to commit that as well |
| 15:37:01 | Biptoria | Sooner its released then ..... |
| 15:37:14 | preglow | Biptoria: we don't want it released to early, really |
| 15:37:39 | Biptoria | Its not to early, i had to get you and rasher to make an image yesterday just so i could use RB |
| 15:38:19 | rasher | that's acceptable :) |
| 15:38:24 | Biptoria | Even though it doesnt have sound, i have on the fly playlist, which is what alot of people really want the most |
| 15:40:13 | bobTHC | after the release of the tool, a lot of "non techies" ppl will ask for support and "already asked questions" who imho is not the priority... |
| 15:40:24 | | Join t0mas [0] (~John@dslam73-74-59-81.dyndsl.versatel.nl) |
| 15:40:36 | preglow | yes |
| 15:40:37 | preglow | indeed |
| 15:40:50 | t0mas | hi |
| 15:40:54 | bobTHC | re |
| 15:41:00 | * | rasher thinks |
| 15:41:31 | bobTHC | great news rasher ! ;) |
| 15:45:43 | Biptoria | well done rasher |
| 15:45:52 | t0mas | news page updated? |
| 15:47:44 | Biptoria | DOnt know |
| 15:48:29 | rasher | nothing done.. my "bootiriver" just isn't working |
| 15:48:50 | bobTHC | :/ |
| 15:49:04 | HCl | didn't someone already wrote an iriver.iriver that booted the original firmware? |
| 15:49:13 | preglow | why would anyone want one? |
| 15:49:24 | HCl | cause they're lazy |
| 15:49:33 | rasher | Yes, that |
| 15:49:41 | rasher | oh, I get it now... |
| 15:49:44 | rasher | nevermind me |
| 15:50:27 | Biptoria | I think a plane just crashed :| loud whirring noise then bang |
| 15:50:39 | rasher | :-O |
| 15:50:40 | HCl | :x |
| 15:50:53 | * | Biptoria investigating |
| 15:50:57 | rasher | HCl: yes, probably ripnetuk.. but he's never here! |
| 15:51:20 | rasher | I was trying to do it as a plugin.. but maybe that can't work? |
| 15:51:45 | HCl | dunno. |
| 15:51:57 | HCl | did we search the logs for who made that .iriver? |
| 15:52:07 | rasher | I tried |
| 15:53:04 | preglow | ripnetuk |
| 15:53:06 | preglow | i'm pretty certain |
| 15:53:22 | preglow | but might be mistaken, yes |
| 15:53:51 | rasher | site:www.rockbox.org inurl:rockbox-2005 < doesn't work with google |
| 15:53:56 | rasher | whereas inurl:rockbox does |
| 15:54:13 | preglow | but i'd rather suggest you give up this futile endavour and optimize dct32 instead :> |
| 15:54:35 | rasher | Oh sure, give me a few minutes |
| 15:54:37 | B4gder | it was ripnetuk |
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| 15:54:48 | B4gder | 20050301 at 16:23 |
| 15:54:53 | rasher | Aha! |
| 15:55:20 | rasher | your search-fu exceeds mine by many lengths |
| 15:55:29 | B4gder | I can grep the logs ;-) |
| 15:55:37 | bobTHC | :) |
| 15:56:01 | rasher | good point |
| 15:56:09 | rasher | now why isn't mine working >< |
| 15:56:09 | bobTHC | too easy, it's not fair ;) |
| 15:56:26 | preglow | rasher: what do you do? |
| 15:56:39 | B4gder | 1030 logs |
| 15:57:15 | rasher | preglow: copy bootloader/main.c:start_iriver_fw() and call that |
| 15:57:16 | bobTHC | ouch, so 1030 days from the launch of this chan :) |
| 15:57:29 | B4gder | yeps |
| 15:57:33 | bobTHC | hard to believe |
| 15:59:01 | preglow | rasher: i do believe that contains privileged instructions |
| 15:59:05 | preglow | like movec |
| 15:59:07 | preglow | but i may be wrong |
| 15:59:55 | rasher | Ah.. this just hangs :) |
| 16:00 |
| 16:00:23 | rasher | Hm, ripnetuk put his on his ftp |
| 16:00:59 | rasher | problem solved I guess |
| 16:02:45 | rasher | well this looks *exactly* like what I had |
| 16:03:56 | rasher | only one line of difference :D |
| 16:04:10 | B4gder | the all time bigger talker in #rockbox? |
| 16:04:24 | B4gder | Linus is #2 |
| 16:04:36 | B4gder | I'm #3 |
| 16:04:41 | B4gder | Zagor is #4 |
| 16:05:02 | B4gder | midknight2k3 is #1 |
| 16:05:10 | B4gder | 51702 lines |
| 16:05:13 | rasher | o.O |
| 16:05:15 | HCl | who? |
| 16:05:16 | HCl | o.o |
| 16:05:31 | rasher | flooder? |
| 16:05:39 | B4gder | nope |
| 16:06:07 | rasher | So *why* is my plugin not working... if ripnetuk's was |
| 16:06:11 | rasher | NOT FAIR |
| 16:06:23 | B4gder | rasher is at #20 |
| 16:06:39 | rasher | set up pisg |
| 16:07:02 | rasher | for great justice |
| 16:07:22 | rasher | it even supports dancer logfile format |
| 16:07:51 | Biptoria | Whre am i badger |
| 16:08:35 | B4gder | #2182 |
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| 16:09:07 | LinusN | rasher: put up your source code so i can see it |
| 16:09:21 | | Join B4gder [0] (~50d8ae51@labb.contactor.se) |
| 16:09:36 | rasher | alright... it's literally just start_iriver_fw pasted into helloworld.c |
| 16:10:01 | rasher | rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/bootiriver.c">http://rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/bootiriver.c |
| 16:10:25 | rasher | silly apache |
| 16:10:53 | rasher | there's a txt as well if you don't want to download it just to view it :) |
| 16:11:57 | rasher | funny thing is.. the only difference between this file and ripnetuk's, is that he changed the $Id line |
| 16:15:08 | LinusN | looks ok to me |
| 16:15:39 | rasher | it just... hangs |
| 16:16:18 | LinusN | with a blank screen? |
| 16:16:24 | rasher | yes |
| 16:16:41 | rasher | or actually, hang on.. |
| 16:16:43 | LinusN | does his plugin work? |
| 16:16:48 | rasher | it hung with "hello world" |
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| 16:17:01 | rasher | because I still had that in |
| 16:17:19 | rasher | I don't hope it does, because a diff only shows the $Id line |
| 16:18:14 | rasher | yes.. hangs with a blank screen |
| 16:18:22 | LinusN | my guess is that it doesn't work because you need to reset a few other registers before starting the iriver firmware |
| 16:18:31 | rasher | sounds likely |
| 16:18:33 | LinusN | like stopping the timers |
| 16:18:42 | rasher | probably not worth the bother |
| 16:18:42 | LinusN | disabling dma interrupts etc |
| 16:18:50 | rasher | or your time :) |
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| 16:19:14 | preglow | in the meantime, i've got this dct32 for any interested takers... |
| 16:19:14 | preglow | :> |
| 16:19:25 | LinusN | :-) |
| 16:19:53 | rasher | heh |
| 16:20:03 | preglow | LinusN: any new insights on the codec slot number issue? |
| 16:20:20 | LinusN | i don't care at the moment |
| 16:20:20 | rasher | guess I could commit this horrible flipit "fix" |
| 16:20:25 | rasher | but it's pretty ugly |
| 16:20:40 | HCl | bleh. |
| 16:20:53 | HCl | whats it with people who believe they can make peace by fighting people ? |
| 16:21:03 | bobTHC | fix a horrible thing by an ugly one ;) |
| 16:21:08 | preglow | HCl: stupidity? |
| 16:21:13 | HCl | preglow: maybe :/ |
| 16:21:22 | HCl | i had the "joys" of encountering an american who was in the army. |
| 16:21:33 | HCl | i'll let you guess his iq ;/ |
| 16:22:21 | preglow | sounds like you had a blast |
| 16:22:55 | HCl | :P |
| 16:23:07 | HCl | he ended up not being able to think of any counter arguments so started insulting |
| 16:23:10 | HCl | :P |
| 16:23:23 | rasher | Excellent |
| 16:23:37 | HCl | he was trying to say something along the lines that deaths among iraq people couldn't be helped as much as deaths with the space shuttle accident |
| 16:23:41 | HCl | xD |
| 16:26:12 | t0mas | hm.. |
| 16:26:28 | * | rasher ponders completing this artwiz font |
| 16:26:42 | t0mas | Anybody knows a way to boot from IDE disk on a machine not being able to boot from IDE? :) |
| 16:26:47 | t0mas | With a floppy or something? |
| 16:28:57 | bobTHC | HCl > http://funny.wtfjunk.com/America.gif |
| 16:29:11 | HCl | :p |
| 16:29:23 | HCl | i need to copy that one. |
| 16:29:31 | bobTHC | ;) |
| 16:29:57 | HCl | i've seen it before |
| 16:29:58 | HCl | its great :P |
| 16:32:11 | bobTHC | i love the "they want to destroy our great democracy with their cigats" |
| 16:32:25 | bobTHC | s/cigats/cigars |
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| 16:32:29 | bobTHC | lol |
| 16:32:52 | HCl | :P |
| 16:32:55 | HCl | same :P |
| 16:34:05 | * | preglow fights with acc0, acc1, acc2 and acc3 |
| 16:39:13 | preglow | i do so love it when nothing makes sense |
| 16:40:20 | preglow | and i do so love when the docs don't correspons to reality |
| 16:41:02 | ashridah | reality? isn't that just an undocumented side effect of the big bang? |
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| 16:42:41 | preglow | whatever it is, it doesn't correspond to motorola's docs |
| 16:45:13 | | Part LinusN |
| 16:46:18 | preglow | oh, i am such a fucknut |
| 16:46:27 | HCl | m |
| 16:46:27 | HCl | ? |
| 16:46:41 | preglow | move along, nothing interesting here |
| 16:46:56 | bobTHC | :) |
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| 16:49:20 | HCl | :P |
| 16:49:55 | preglow | oh well |
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| 16:50:00 | preglow | i hereby proclaim i have mastered the emac unit |
| 16:50:12 | rasher | \o/ |
| 16:50:18 | ashridah | <motorola> we'll see about that |
| 16:50:42 | * | preglow sets mode +b motorola!*@*.com |
| 16:50:53 | ashridah | <cpu> receiveing orders from motorola...... going non-deterministic! |
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| 16:54:24 | | Quit DMJC ("Leaving") |
| 16:54:53 | ashridah | anyway, now that i've crushed a mac user's soul when he tried to disagree with me about something C-related at uni... i'm going to bed. |
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| 17:03:55 | | Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") |
| 17:05:42 | t0mas | hi |
| 17:06:37 | MoosCamaro | hi t0mas |
| 17:07:43 | | Quit bobTHC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 17:17:21 | * | rasher looks at license for this font |
| 17:20:05 | | Quit cYmen ("*urks*") |
| 17:28:53 | rasher | excellent.. I have a new font :) |
| 17:31:42 | rasher | complete for iso-8859-15 |
| 17:33:49 | rasher | GPLed |
| 17:35:10 | preglow | example image, please |
| 17:35:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:35:28 | rasher | what's an easy way to get a lot of characters displayed? |
| 17:35:36 | rasher | I guess I could make a .txt |
| 17:35:41 | rasher | hang on |
| 17:40:04 | rasher | huh... viewer plugin crashed |
| 17:41:25 | | Join austriancoder [0] (~austrianc@80.120.117.30) |
| 17:41:30 | austriancoder | hi all |
| 17:41:31 | rasher | rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/snap.png">http://rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/snap.png |
| 17:42:16 | thegeek | æøå . |
| 17:42:22 | thegeek | ;) |
| 17:42:29 | rasher | weird, a pixel missing from é and è |
| 17:42:40 | rasher | when did I remove that, I wonder |
| 17:43:06 | preglow | a bit too square for my taste |
| 17:43:24 | rasher | it's very square :) |
| 17:43:40 | rasher | what the... where's that pixel going!? |
| 17:44:13 | rasher | oh, it's not é |
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| 17:44:46 | rasher | ah, á |
| 17:47:06 | | Join Bippy [0] (~5198270f@labb.contactor.se) |
| 17:50:26 | rasher | weird.. |
| 17:51:19 | Bippy | .. |
| 17:51:33 | rasher | Hi! |
| 17:51:39 | austriancoder | hi |
| 17:51:41 | Bippy | Hello ! |
| 17:52:17 | rasher | stupid bdf fonts |
| 17:52:35 | Bippy | Is it still not working with that font ? |
| 17:54:58 | rasher | different font now :) |
| 17:55:13 | rasher | rasher/snap.png">http://cybele/~rasher/snap.png |
| 17:55:18 | rasher | eh |
| 17:55:25 | rasher | rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/snap.png">http://rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/snap.png |
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| 17:57:49 | Bippy | Gods? |
| 17:58:19 | Bippy | thats a nice font whats it called |
| 17:58:30 | Bippy | Could i add fonts to the font folder in .rockbox ? |
| 17:58:30 | rasher | snap |
| 17:58:43 | rasher | Yes, indeed |
| 17:58:53 | rasher | I'll put it somewhere to download once I have this bug sorted out |
| 17:58:54 | Bippy | ill add arial then |
| 17:59:03 | rasher | oh wait |
| 17:59:13 | rasher | you need it in rockbox' own font format :) |
| 17:59:24 | Bippy | lol |
| 17:59:30 | Bippy | how do i do that ? or cant i |
| 17:59:45 | rasher | well first you convert it to .bdf, then you convert to .fnt :) |
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| 18:00:12 | preglow | Bippy: you can't use ordinary truetype fonts with rockbox without redrawing them yourselves |
| 18:00:27 | Bippy | Sounds like to much work for a font |
| 18:00:29 | preglow | they probably won't look good rendered at such a low resolution |
| 18:00:40 | rasher | there are ways to convert ttf->bdf, but it's unlikely to be nice |
| 18:04:23 | Bippy | RB comes out of USB mode faster than iriver |
| 18:04:31 | Bippy | thats defo |
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| 18:05:09 | | Join muz [0] (~54091420@labb.contactor.se) |
| 18:05:11 | rasher | it's great |
| 18:05:18 | rasher | I'd go insane if it was as slow |
| 18:05:36 | muz | hey rasher how can i get that snap font? |
| 18:05:54 | rasher | Hang on :) |
| 18:06:01 | rasher | there's a slight bug in it, trying to fix |
| 18:06:03 | muz | its really nice |
| 18:06:23 | rasher | Note that I didn't make it from scratch |
| 18:06:27 | muz | hey anyone here seen the new archos av700? |
| 18:07:44 | | Join infernum [0] (~foo@80.178.115.200.adsl.012.net.il) |
| 18:08:02 | infernum | hi guys |
| 18:08:08 | infernum | anyone got an idea how can i turn av400 into linux ? |
| 18:08:27 | infernum | i' |
| 18:08:38 | infernum | i've seen for the gmini400 but my friend told me there is a firmware for linux.. |
| 18:08:39 | infernum | anyone ? :( |
| 18:08:50 | rasher | ARGH |
| 18:08:52 | rasher | DAMMIT |
| 18:09:02 | muz | ohno tell me it wasnt the font |
| 18:09:03 | infernum | rasher any idea mate ? :/ |
| 18:09:13 | infernum | muz ? :( |
| 18:09:22 | rasher | muz: bug's still there :-\ |
| 18:09:37 | muz | infernum: ive never heard of linus on the av400, the pma400 has linux i think |
| 18:09:47 | muz | linux* |
| 18:10:03 | infernum | any chance the jukebox 5000/6000 might work ? |
| 18:10:35 | infernum | http://linav.free.fr/images/FM_remote.jpg |
| 18:10:35 | infernum | erm |
| 18:10:37 | infernum | thats av320 |
| 18:10:42 | infernum | im pretty certain av400 can run that also.. |
| 18:10:45 | infernum | its more or less the same.. |
| 18:10:47 | infernum | nobody knows ? ;/ |
| 18:11:30 | rasher | I suggest you contact the linav team instead :) |
| 18:11:36 | Bippy | Just try it, if it blows up, thats life |
| 18:11:41 | infernum | lol :( |
| 18:18:17 | Bippy | has it blown up yet ? |
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| 18:25:50 | | Nick Sucka is now known as Sucka`zZzZz (~NNSCRIPT@host81-157-72-191.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:28:23 | infernum | hehe |
| 18:28:25 | infernum | aint gonna try :/ |
| 18:28:34 | infernum | * Topic is 'LinAV - http://linav.free.fr | AV4XX incompatible | Problem? Wait around, we aren't here all day.' |
| 18:28:35 | infernum | :P |
| 18:29:14 | t0mas | hmz... |
| 18:29:27 | t0mas | (c++ question) |
| 18:29:38 | t0mas | I have a C app.. using fork() and pipe(){ |
| 18:29:50 | t0mas | and I would like to do the same in C++... using threads |
| 18:29:58 | t0mas | and replace pipe() with some soft of stream |
| 18:30:02 | t0mas | is that possible? :) |
| 18:32:03 | preglow | of course |
| 18:32:09 | preglow | but you'll have to construct things differently |
| 18:32:35 | t0mas | how do I create that stream? :) |
| 18:32:51 | preglow | dunno, tons of options available |
| 18:33:02 | t0mas | I have the threads and other things working... But can't find a way to make that stream :X |
| 18:33:23 | preglow | you could of course just use a plain buffer |
| 18:34:21 | t0mas | hm... |
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| 18:44:46 | meshuga | anyway to format the new hdd inside the archos casing? |
| 18:44:52 | meshuga | i swapped hdds at a friends |
| 18:44:56 | meshuga | and cant find my screwdriver here |
| 18:45:14 | Lynx_ | meshuga: windows or linux? |
| 18:45:26 | meshuga | either one |
| 18:45:30 | Seed | I'd use a huge magnet :) |
| 18:45:47 | Lynx_ | create the partition first... |
| 18:47:12 | Lynx_ | with fdisk or some tool like that |
| 18:50:33 | meshuga | wow this archos makes tons of noises |
| 18:51:27 | meshuga | maybe i just didnt tighten stuff down all the way.. |
| 18:53:02 | meshuga | if i push in on the top i hear less vibrating |
| 18:53:05 | meshuga | so that must be it :) |
| 18:53:07 | meshuga | yay it works! |
| 18:53:11 | meshuga | now to get rockbox on it :) |
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| 19:09:35 | meshuga | i think its possibly the charging unit thats making ruckus |
| 19:09:52 | meshuga | i just bought this broke archos for $20 and slapped a hdd i ram'd a few months back in it :) |
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| 19:14:15 | stevenm | man some farker keeps taking my nick and it's annoying |
| 19:14:28 | rasher | farking idiots |
| 19:15:39 | preglow | me out |
| 19:15:42 | preglow | later |
| 19:15:43 | stevenm | I don't know how it happens, even though it is registered. Every time.. I have to kick him off |
| 19:16:30 | meshuga | nickserv doesnt force on freenode |
| 19:16:45 | meshuga | i rarely register my own unless a channel requires it |
| 19:17:36 | meshuga | hrm the charging unit is making horrible racket |
| 19:18:04 | rasher | can't you turn on forcing with nickserv? |
| 19:18:25 | meshuga | dunno |
| 19:18:58 | rasher | /msg nickserv set secure on |
| 19:19:13 | meshuga | well there you have it :) |
| 19:19:17 | rasher | no, wait |
| 19:19:46 | rasher | set kill on |
| 19:19:48 | rasher | instead |
| 19:19:55 | rasher | secure is just silly |
| 19:25:00 | | Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@ARennes-252-1-13-73.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:25:07 | Tang | hi |
| 19:25:10 | Tang | i don't stay long |
| 19:25:14 | Tang | (very busy) |
| 19:25:17 | rasher | hi Tang |
| 19:25:23 | Tang | hi rasher |
| 19:25:30 | stevenm | hello |
| 19:25:42 | Tang | heard about the recent issues pandemy with Rbx and 1.65 |
| 19:25:44 | Tang | ? |
| 19:25:51 | Tang | Very starnge |
| 19:26:06 | Tang | hard to understand how it can be linked with RBX |
| 19:26:30 | rasher | what? |
| 19:26:41 | Tang | i give a link |
| 19:26:43 | Tang | wait |
| 19:26:50 | rasher | :) |
| 19:27:46 | Tang | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=12991&page=27&pp=20 |
| 19:27:54 | Tang | issues with ogg for some |
| 19:27:59 | Tang | but me it's with mp3 |
| 19:28:08 | Tang | (dont testetd ogg anyway) |
| 19:28:32 | rasher | what the... |
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| 19:30:17 | rasher | same here o.O |
| 19:31:25 | t0mas | wird problem Tang |
| 19:31:35 | t0mas | *weird |
| 19:31:42 | Tang | scuse phone |
| 19:31:46 | t0mas | k |
| 19:31:51 | t0mas | rasher? what did you test? |
| 19:32:02 | rasher | It's skipping oggs here |
| 19:32:10 | rasher | let me see if unmodified works |
| 19:32:20 | t0mas | 1.65 or 1.63? |
| 19:32:23 | t0mas | EU or US? |
| 19:32:36 | rasher | 1.65EU 11/02 bootloader skips oggs for me |
| 19:33:08 | t0mas | 1.63 EU 11/02 bootloader works with ogg here |
| 19:33:15 | t0mas | maybe we should make a list somewhere? |
| 19:33:23 | rasher | there is one |
| 19:33:28 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 19:33:35 | t0mas | yeah, I know |
| 19:33:41 | t0mas | but I ment with just the OGG issue |
| 19:33:46 | rasher | ah |
| 19:33:52 | rasher | *shrug* |
| 19:34:12 | rasher | let me try with unmodified |
| 19:34:22 | t0mas | 1.65 ? |
| 19:34:25 | t0mas | works :) |
| 19:34:27 | t0mas | EU |
| 19:34:30 | rasher | yes |
| 19:34:36 | rasher | Hrmpf |
| 19:34:44 | t0mas | mine worked :) |
| 19:34:50 | rasher | that's very annoying |
| 19:35:01 | t0mas | but I dongraded to 1.63 EU + Rbx because 1.65 was untested at that moment |
| 19:35:10 | t0mas | *downgraded |
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| 19:36:55 | * | rasher flashes |
| 19:37:19 | rasher | Haha, jesus |
| 19:37:24 | t0mas | ? |
| 19:37:52 | rasher | Being tested positive for doping in the baseball league in usa gave a player 10 days punishment |
| 19:37:55 | rasher | 10 DAYS |
| 19:38:03 | rasher | I'd have said 10 months possibly |
| 19:38:08 | t0mas | yeah |
| 19:38:38 | Tang | i tested 1.65US and Eu |
| 19:38:40 | Tang | same issue |
| 19:38:51 | Tang | (for rockboxed HEX) |
| 19:39:07 | Tang | and then i came back to 1.63(US or K) |
| 19:39:10 | rasher | 1.65EU works.. 1.65EU rbx doesn't :-| |
| 19:39:11 | Tang | and still the issue |
| 19:39:12 | Tang | :s |
| 19:39:20 | rasher | What?! |
| 19:39:27 | Tang | very starnge ididn't thpuogt |
| 19:39:30 | rasher | downgrading to 1.63 didn't help? |
| 19:39:39 | Tang | it can deregulate iRiver fw |
| 19:39:43 | Tang | yes |
| 19:39:45 | Tang | i did |
| 19:39:50 | Tang | but still the issue |
| 19:39:50 | t0mas | weird |
| 19:40:01 | rasher | that's not right... :( |
| 19:40:01 | Tang | indeed it's ununderstandable |
| 19:40:16 | Tang | i'll make more test if i can |
| 19:40:20 | Tang | but i'm very busy |
| 19:40:33 | Tang | since i make a journey friday |
| 19:40:47 | Tang | anyway |
| 19:40:52 | Tang | don't worry too much |
| 19:40:56 | Tang | my iHp still work |
| 19:41:01 | Tang | but some mp3 fails |
| 19:41:15 | rasher | sounds unrelated I think |
| 19:41:22 | Tang | however i still can make up/downgrade |
| 19:41:26 | Tang | unrelated |
| 19:41:33 | Tang | i think so too |
| 19:41:43 | Tang | but i don't remeber the file failed before |
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| 19:42:55 | Tang | Do you know some freeware for HD dignostic? |
| 19:43:03 | Tang | (FAT32 support of course) |
| 19:43:05 | Tang | ? |
| 19:43:18 | rasher | linux's fsck.vfat :) .. otherwise, no |
| 19:43:49 | Tang | PS: I've adviced Rbx upgrade suspension at myfrench board... |
| 19:44:07 | Tang | hum under WinXp in fact? |
| 19:45:15 | Tang | the ogg matter seems quite generalised |
| 19:45:22 | Tang | unlike my mp3 issue |
| 19:45:31 | Tang | no one heard about the |
| 19:45:55 | rasher | I don't know any for windows xp, sorry |
| 19:45:56 | Tang | "file not synced" message adressed to me by iRiver fw (with bootloader) throught main LCD? |
| 19:46:07 | Tang | Okay thx rasher |
| 19:46:17 | Tang | not a big isue i'll search |
| 19:46:19 | Tang | :) |
| 19:46:42 | Tang | also with some mp3 the LCD display nothing |
| 19:47:05 | Tang | and the remote LCD freeze (have to reboot iHP to erase the freezed display) |
| 19:49:05 | Tang | http://www.scsin.ch/v2/Liens/Informatique/3.htm |
| 19:51:53 | MoosCamaro | hi Tang |
| 19:52:02 | Tang | hi moos |
| 19:52:17 | * | rasher flashes modified 1.63 |
| 19:53:02 | Bippy | :| |
| 19:53:17 | rasher | plays oggs |
| 19:53:32 | Bippy | It plays oggs ? |
| 19:53:57 | rasher | Yes. 1.63eu rockbox does .. 1.65eu rockbox doesn't, it seems |
| 19:54:17 | Bippy | :| awwwwww i have 1.65 |
| 19:54:26 | Bippy | i dont have any oggs anyway |
| 19:54:36 | rasher | try playing an ogg with the iriver firmware |
| 19:54:47 | rasher | hm, get one: rasher.dk/soundfiles/ |
| 19:55:08 | Bippy | With the Iriver firmware, or rockbox? |
| 19:56:40 | rasher | iriver |
| 19:57:24 | Bippy | Yeh i have a direstraits album on it in ogg, i noticed that last night, it was my first boot back into iriver and i thought Rockbox had broken the sound, then i played a mp3 and they worked |
| 19:58:21 | rasher | aha! |
| 19:58:29 | rasher | so it is a very general and consistent problem |
| 19:58:37 | Tang | consistent? |
| 19:58:43 | rasher | LiiiiiiinusN! |
| 19:58:45 | rasher | happens to everyone |
| 19:58:52 | Tang | ok |
| 19:58:53 | Tang | lol |
| 19:59:00 | Tang | seems my issue is quite different no? |
| 19:59:09 | Tang | other issue with mp3? |
| 19:59:48 | rasher | sounds like scandisk would help |
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| 20:01:10 | Bippy | EHHHH |
| 20:01:19 | Tang | oki i dled many HD freware |
| 20:01:31 | Tang | (scandisk said allright) |
| 20:01:33 | Bippy | Theres music playing and i dont know ehere its coming from |
| 20:01:40 | Bippy | ive closed everything from my taskbar 1 |
| 20:01:49 | Bippy | and ALt CTRL Delete |
| 20:01:53 | rasher | It'mes |
| 20:01:59 | rasher | It's me |
| 20:02:11 | rasher | I hacked your C: drive ^_^ |
| 20:02:21 | Tang | lol |
| 20:02:29 | Tang | i go |
| 20:02:38 | rasher | bye |
| 20:02:51 | Bippy | Stop it please1 |
| 20:02:51 | Tang | bye |
| 20:03:01 | Tang | wish Linus solve this |
| 20:03:09 | Bippy | wtf its playing good charlotte |
| 20:03:40 | rasher | Webpage with sound? |
| 20:03:46 | Bippy | i closed IE |
| 20:03:54 | Bippy | The only window open is thjis |
| 20:04:05 | t0mas | Bippy: your computer has a good taste :P |
| 20:04:12 | t0mas | and maybe you should check your systray? |
| 20:04:19 | Bippy | Checked |
| 20:04:19 | stevenm | ctrl/alt/del |
| 20:04:22 | stevenm | see whats there |
| 20:04:23 | stevenm | ps -e |
| 20:04:25 | Bippy | Checked |
| 20:04:53 | stevenm | killall -9 mplayer ? |
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| 20:05:06 | t0mas | or just listen to it? |
| 20:05:10 | Bippy | ohhhhhhhh its my MP3 player wtf |
| 20:05:11 | t0mas | it's good music :P |
| 20:05:18 | stevenm | Hahahahahhahahahahahahahaa |
| 20:05:33 | rasher | Haha, excellent |
| 20:05:35 | Bippy | i didnt even turn it on i dont think :| |
| 20:05:47 | t0mas | that's a bug... |
| 20:05:47 | Bippy | wait yeh i did i checked the ogg |
| 20:05:54 | t0mas | the hold switch isn't always working |
| 20:06:25 | Bippy | Lifestyles of the rich and the famous (8) |
| 20:06:59 | t0mas | *click* |
| 20:07:02 | * | t0mas luistert naar: Good Charlotte - the Chronicles Of Life And Dea (3:03) |
| 20:07:03 | rasher | Is it an ogg, and does it play? |
| 20:07:19 | rasher | or did it just skip to that after trying to play an ogg? |
| 20:07:35 | Bippy | well now i know theres no Sorcery going on and i dont need holy water splashed over my computer ill contine my coursework |
| 20:07:40 | Bippy | No it wont play an ogg |
| 20:07:57 | Bippy | I dont know how it got to Good charlotte |
| 20:08:25 | rasher | Alright |
| 20:08:26 | Bippy | And theres an E between D and G so it should of gone to eminem first |
| 20:08:39 | Bippy | theres also an F |
| 20:08:40 | rasher | Your player doesn't like the Rap |
| 20:08:57 | Bippy | You can tell i didnt learn much in primary school |
| 20:09:20 | t0mas | it doesn't follow the alfabet... |
| 20:09:21 | Bippy | I dont even know my months properly and im 18 :| |
| 20:09:38 | t0mas | it's following the iRiver-order |
| 20:09:50 | Bippy | Thats the order it shows it inm |
| 20:10:44 | Bippy | I see you rasher, shakin that ass (8) |
| 20:10:52 | Bippy | Rite |
| 20:10:57 | * | Bippy away |
| 20:11:23 | rasher | 8-O |
| 20:18:36 | Bippy | So rasher, hows the volcanoes doing :p |
| 20:19:13 | rasher | the what? |
| 20:19:39 | Bippy | :| never mind |
| 20:20:06 | * | t0mas is going to replace his second hd :) |
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| 20:29:53 | Bippy | I cant really see you shaking your ass, dont worry |
| 20:30:30 | rasher | that's good, because I'm not |
| 20:32:56 | Bippy | Errrrr body in the clubs getting tipsy (8) |
| 20:33:30 | CoCoLUS | that song is ranking 2nd in the worst. song. ever. list |
| 20:33:34 | CoCoLUS | after the iriver jingle, of course |
| 20:34:52 | Bippy | whats your flava then |
| 20:35:21 | CoCoLUS | progressive rock/metal |
| 20:36:04 | Bippy | Well i like all music from Indie, Rap, to emo to country to pop |
| 20:37:11 | rasher | Not a bad word about the iRiver jingle! >:( |
| 20:37:59 | Seed | progrock rulez ok |
| 20:41:17 | Bippy | I actually like the iriver song, its a good tune |
| 20:41:30 | Bippy | Its better than there Firmware anyway |
| 20:42:05 | Bippy | Linkin Park are good, good linked with Jay Z aswell |
| 20:43:37 | Bippy | Red sky at night, sheperds delight, tommorows gonna be a beautiful day |
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| 20:44:12 | Bippy | Hello t0mas |
| 20:44:17 | t0mas | hi |
| 20:44:23 | t0mas | swapped :) |
| 20:44:29 | Bippy | well done |
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| 21:06:27 | stevenm | Rockbox has a function for seeking inside files, but what about getting the current file position ? |
| 21:06:32 | stevenm | for plugin API I mean |
| 21:07:37 | stevenm | and, do you get an sprintf ? |
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| 21:14:27 | rasher | Can't you calculate that yourself? :) |
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| 21:15:46 | stevenm | rasher, I would really really really really really rather not |
| 21:15:52 | stevenm | The parser is somewhat complex |
| 21:16:20 | rasher | Heh |
| 21:16:34 | stevenm | it reads stuff in many different cases, many different places |
| 21:16:57 | rasher | you know about docs/PLUGIN_API? |
| 21:17:06 | stevenm | it basically reads in a whole track, sees how much memory it would need, then seeks back to beginning of that track and reads it again |
| 21:17:08 | stevenm | for real |
| 21:17:14 | stevenm | .. I do now... hmm |
| 21:17:30 | rasher | But no, the function doesn't appear available |
| 21:18:41 | rasher | you do have snprintf |
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| 21:20:19 | t0mas | *oops* |
| 21:20:26 | t0mas | rivatuner is a nice tool... |
| 21:20:47 | t0mas | but radeons don't like mem clocks above 800 mhz... |
| 21:24:44 | elinenbe | does the iriver have a RTC? |
| 21:24:57 | HCl | no. |
| 21:26:54 | rasher | non-us h300 has |
| 21:26:57 | elinenbe | ah blah.... |
| 21:27:13 | elinenbe | I guess I better get one of those before they stop making them.... |
| 21:27:21 | rasher | I think I read that us versions didn't, at least |
| 21:27:27 | rasher | for whatever reason |
| 21:27:34 | elinenbe | it was a pain to get an ihp-1x0 as it was... |
| 21:28:27 | rasher | yeah, lots of people having problems |
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| 21:40:08 | stevenm | So how the heck do you get the current position in a file ? |
| 21:40:34 | t0mas | don't know |
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| 21:42:16 | lolo-laptop | US and non-us H3x0 have RTC |
| 21:42:36 | stevenm | they have to, for DRM |
| 21:42:50 | lolo-laptop | It was thought that the intl one didn't have it because it didn't have a clock and the US did... but new firmware in 7 days will give clock to intl |
| 21:42:56 | stevenm | are we going to do anything about thatm by the way ? |
| 21:44:25 | Rick | <stevenm> So how the heck do you get the current position in a file ? |
| 21:44:27 | Rick | ftell() ? |
| 21:44:28 | Rick | or |
| 21:44:42 | Rick | seek(fil,0,SEEK_CUR) |
| 21:44:46 | Rick | might return position |
| 21:44:50 | Rick | depending on how its done |
| 21:45:28 | stevenm | Rick, what about detecting EOF |
| 21:46:22 | Rick | dunno |
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| 21:49:49 | amiconn | stevenm: rockbox doesn't have seek(), it has lseek(). And yes, lseek() can tell you the position, without changing it |
| 21:50:14 | amiconn | pos = lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_CUR); |
| 21:50:39 | rasher | cute |
| 21:51:19 | t0mas | hmz... |
| 21:51:19 | stevenm | amiconn, thanks !! |
| 21:51:33 | t0mas | "pop-ing" an array is taking the last added value and removing it right? |
| 21:51:34 | amiconn | Afaik the only way to detect EOF is when read() returns zero |
| 21:51:35 | stevenm | amiconn, what would be the posix equivalent of feof() ? |
| 21:52:41 | rasher | t0mas: yes |
| 21:52:50 | t0mas | ok :) |
| 21:52:59 | t0mas | so a LIFO queue? |
| 21:53:17 | rasher | well if you add and pop, yes |
| 21:56:49 | amiconn | stevenm: You can also check for EOF by comparing the current position with the file length: len = filesize(fd); |
| 21:57:25 | stevenm | amiconn, thanks, that will work |
| 21:59:25 | rasher | bool feof(int fd) { return filesize(fd) < lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_CUR); } ^_^ |
| 21:59:36 | rasher | well |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:10 | rasher | more or less anyway |
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| 22:01:10 | preglow | SO |
| 22:01:28 | * | preglow ties sleeves up and opens imdct_mcf5249.S |
| 22:01:37 | amiconn | rasher: There's a mistake (if I didn't goof): |
| 22:01:44 | amiconn | bool feof(int fd) { return filesize(fd) == lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_CUR); } |
| 22:02:00 | rasher | looks more right |
| 22:03:03 | stevenm | amiconn, filesize? |
| 22:03:06 | rasher | oh right, mine was the wrong way round :) |
| 22:03:49 | stevenm | amiconn, plain non-rockbox GCC does not like filesize. hmm |
| 22:04:05 | rasher | set up a build-environment already :) |
| 22:04:57 | stevenm | rasher, I did.. but I want to get everything ported over to posix functions first |
| 22:05:31 | rasher | ah |
| 22:05:54 | rasher | I guess you can use lseek and SEEK_END somehow |
| 22:06:03 | stevenm | I want to make sure each part works w/o segfaulting before I even try building it in the endv... last time that turned out REAL urly REAL fast |
| 22:06:47 | rasher | lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_END) should return the size of fd, shouldn't it? |
| 22:07:45 | rasher | of course, they you have to "rewind" afterwards |
| 22:08:11 | rasher | and first save the current position |
| 22:08:15 | rasher | fun fun fun |
| 22:12:27 | amiconn | stevenm: rockbox tries to resemble the low-level posix file functions, i.e. those using file descriptors. You won't find the f... functions like fopen() etc. |
| 22:12:57 | amiconn | Of course, rockbox implements only a subset |
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| 22:13:23 | amiconn | filesize() is an exception, it's not posix |
| 22:14:58 | amiconn | The full blown function would be fstat(), but that's not implemented in rockbox |
| 22:15:29 | amiconn | The uisimulators need to simulate filesize(), and guess what they use.... |
| 22:18:03 | amiconn | rasher: Btw, The old win32 sim implementation of filesize() used your idea, because windows doesn't have fstat() |
| 22:18:21 | rasher | priceless |
| 22:18:37 | amiconn | Fortunately I found that windows has _filelength(), which resembles rockbox' filesize() ... |
| 22:19:13 | amiconn | Seeking back and forth may be costly with larger files |
| 22:20:07 | * | ferenczy is away: out of matrix |
| 22:21:53 | amiconn | rasher: look here: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/uisimulator/common/io.c?r1=1.14&r2=1.15 |
| 22:23:05 | rasher | excellent |
| 22:23:20 | rasher | that version *was* a nasty hack |
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| 23:17:44 | webguest12 | hello |
| 23:18:16 | Bagder | hi |
| 23:18:40 | webguest12 | I am trying to set up a CygWin environment but seem to have a version issue with the rockbox cross compiler |
| 23:19:26 | Bagder | and what happens? |
| 23:19:30 | rasher | evening Bagder |
| 23:20:28 | webguest12 | I can get the general environment up, but when I try to add the rockbox required packages the CygWin setup fails to download them properly |
| 23:21:13 | Bagder | webguest12: what target? |
| 23:21:42 | webguest12 | Windows Xp |
| 23:21:48 | webguest12 | Iriver sorry |
| 23:22:12 | Bagder | and you follow the wiki guide? |
| 23:22:22 | Bagder | which says "These will not work for Rockbox, since the binutils version is too old" |
| 23:22:44 | webguest12 | So what do I do? |
| 23:22:49 | Bagder | build your own |
| 23:22:57 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 23:23:08 | webguest12 | thanks I will try |
| 23:24:22 | webguest12 | Good work on rockbox, I have been following the IRC logs for a couple months waiting primarily for otf playlists and gapless. |
| 23:24:58 | Bagder | we all wait for that! |
| 23:25:11 | rasher | getting closer all the time (some days more than others :) |
| 23:25:14 | webguest12 | Might be a good idea to update the Cygwin page with the link to building the cross compiler |
| 23:25:52 | Bagder | webguest12: please do |
| 23:26:01 | Bagder | it is a wiki |
| 23:26:10 | webguest12 | Okay I will get my feet wet! |
| 23:26:19 | Bagder | the more the merrier! |
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| 23:27:54 | * | t0mas is going to bed :) |
| 23:27:59 | | Quit t0mas ("good night") |
| 23:31:12 | preglow | if imdct_l in asm does not perform better, i will shoot myself in the head |
| 23:31:39 | rasher | please don't |
| 23:31:56 | preglow | oh, it'll be a while until i find out |
| 23:32:06 | Seed | rasher: I put blanks in his gun |
| 23:33:03 | rasher | excellent |
| 23:33:22 | rasher | uh.. preglow |
| 23:33:43 | rasher | I'm getting a double-speed (at least) wav from mpa2wav |
| 23:34:03 | preglow | mpc2wav or mpa2wav? |
| 23:34:10 | rasher | mpa |
| 23:34:14 | preglow | just making certain, cuz i had that problem with mpc2wav |
| 23:34:23 | rasher | yeah |
| 23:34:39 | preglow | queer |
| 23:34:44 | preglow | i'll test it here again |
| 23:34:49 | preglow | what mp3? |
| 23:35:02 | rasher | let me try and play the wav on my computer |
| 23:35:10 | rasher | the product main theme.mp3 :) |
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| 23:35:49 | preglow | ghah, bloody farbrausch |
| 23:35:53 | rasher | it's the audio output code |
| 23:35:55 | preglow | no wonder it plays poorly, then |
| 23:36:07 | preglow | ok, so it's not my code? |
| 23:36:17 | rasher | Guess not |
| 23:36:39 | rasher | at least, the wav plays fine with xmms |
| 23:36:43 | preglow | ehh?? |
| 23:36:51 | preglow | my player just tossed an illinstr on mpa2wav |
| 23:37:04 | rasher | didn't play right with audio test |
| 23:37:09 | rasher | curiouser and curiouser |
| 23:38:04 | rasher | oh wait |
| 23:38:07 | rasher | waitwaitwait |
| 23:38:37 | preglow | DUH, i copied a simulator .rock |
| 23:38:47 | Bagder | haha |
| 23:39:06 | preglow | i've got two trees, and picked the wrong one |
| 23:39:19 | preglow | i wonder if i should just start using one tree |
| 23:39:25 | preglow | it's so much simpler come commit time |
| 23:39:41 | rasher | I had the cpu set to 120MHz through the debug menu.. |
| 23:39:53 | rasher | now trying again with 48mhz.. |
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| 23:40:03 | rasher | uhm |
| 23:40:07 | rasher | it crashed |
| 23:40:07 | rasher | wtf |
| 23:40:19 | rasher | oh well, the audio debug does that once in a while |
| 23:40:42 | preglow | don't tell me if it's not my code, please ;) |
| 23:40:54 | preglow | i get nervous |
| 23:40:54 | rasher | it is not your code |
| 23:41:43 | rasher | setting the cpu-speed to 120mhz and then running the audio test sure confuses it |
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| 23:41:53 | rasher | I wonder if that's what happened to you as well |
| 23:42:09 | preglow | lemme check |
| 23:42:29 | rasher | maybe a cpu_boost(false) that never happened or something? |
| 23:42:37 | rasher | would explain the elusiveness of the bug |
| 23:42:54 | preglow | ahh, i like flacs decoding speed |
| 23:43:03 | preglow | so close to perfectly usable with more or less no effort |
| 23:43:13 | rasher | nice |
| 23:43:28 | rasher | do the 2wav plugins boost? |
| 23:43:32 | preglow | no |
| 23:43:45 | preglow | but they don't compensate for lossy codec boost either |
| 23:44:49 | * | rasher tries audio test at 11mhz |
| 23:44:55 | rasher | this should be amusing |
| 23:45:27 | rasher | except not |
| 23:45:35 | rasher | it exploded |
| 23:46:01 | preglow | hahaha |
| 23:46:08 | preglow | it does not compensate for speed, no |
| 23:46:10 | preglow | that it does not |
| 23:46:20 | rasher | oh well, at least you know, if you get double (more like tripple I guess) speed from "audio test", you're probably runnin 120mhz :) |
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| 23:46:40 | preglow | hmm |
| 23:46:43 | preglow | it hangs at 42mhz, now |
| 23:46:45 | preglow | but yes |
| 23:46:48 | preglow | it's not perfect |
| 23:46:49 | preglow | we know that |
| 23:47:18 | rasher | probably irelevant |
| 23:48:21 | rasher | now if I could get this font editor to do what I wanted |
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| 23:49:49 | rasher | but apparently I can't |
| 23:52:54 | rasher | >< |
| 23:53:17 | Bagder | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=611.0 :-) |
| 23:54:40 | rasher | I think the script may have some more serious issues :-\ |
| 23:55:00 | rasher | actually no |
| 23:55:13 | rasher | just needs a special case for "no album tag" |
| 23:55:47 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:55:54 | rasher | But they should all get grouped together in the album view... but when you go artist > no album tag, you shouldn't get all files |
| 23:55:57 | Bagder | possibly "no album tag [artist]" |
| 23:56:19 | rasher | Yeah |
| 23:56:37 | rasher | and then the viewer should remove that when you're in artist view |
| 23:56:57 | Bagder | yes it could |
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