| 00:00:07 | amiconn | However, the drawmode stuff in the grayscale lib needs rework too |
| 00:00:32 | amiconn | Somebody lend me his time machine ;-) |
| 00:00:46 | HCl | :P |
| 00:00:50 | HCl | function pointer arrays? o.o;; |
| 00:01:03 | amiconn | Not really difficult |
| 00:01:12 | HCl | yea, i guess not.. |
| 00:01:16 | amiconn | The most difficult thing was to get the declaration right |
| 00:01:22 | HCl | i'm mostly focusing on getting it to work for now. |
| 00:01:29 | HCl | i used function pointer arrays in my n64 emu.. |
| 00:01:34 | amiconn | understandable. |
| 00:07:08 | HCl | done everything up to drawrect |
| 00:09:47 | HCl | bitmap's *data = twodimensional array with native pixel data with width x and height y? |
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| 00:10:43 | HCl | and whats stride..? |
| 00:11:49 | amiconn | *data = twodimensional array with pixel data with _byte_ width 'stride' and any height |
| 00:12:12 | amiconn | data format is native for xxx_bitmap() |
| 00:12:20 | * | HCl scratches his head |
| 00:12:32 | amiconn | It's not too difficult |
| 00:12:32 | HCl | so every x stride bytes, you'd be on the second line? |
| 00:12:55 | amiconn | x and y define where on the screen you start drawing |
| 00:13:06 | HCl | oh right. |
| 00:13:11 | HCl | okay. |
| 00:13:14 | amiconn | width and height define the pixel width of the (partial) bitmap you want to draw |
| 00:13:15 | HCl | wait. |
| 00:13:18 | rasher | so once this redesign gets done, anything drawing to lcd needs to be fixed? |
| 00:13:21 | HCl | how would it know that it was at the end of the bitmap? |
| 00:13:32 | HCl | oh |
| 00:13:35 | HCl | >.< |
| 00:13:40 | amiconn | 'stride' is there to allow for drawing partial bitmaps |
| 00:13:45 | HCl | sorry, i meant every width stride bytes, you'd be on the second line? |
| 00:14:02 | HCl | maybe i should just leave this to markun o.o; |
| 00:14:16 | amiconn | Yes, every line of the source bitmap consists of 'stride' bytes |
| 00:14:49 | HCl | which doesn't have to be the same of width, and if width is bigger than stride, its irrellevant ? or would it shorten width |
| 00:15:17 | amiconn | width > stride is simply forbidden |
| 00:15:30 | HCl | why? |
| 00:15:43 | amiconn | I wouldn't care to check that, as it doesn't cause much trouble |
| 00:15:50 | HCl | i don't see much problem with it, aside from it would be an odd bitmap format |
| 00:16:05 | amiconn | The bitmap would look a bit odd, that's all |
| 00:16:11 | HCl | mhm.. |
| 00:16:12 | HCl | okay.. |
| 00:16:28 | amiconn | It could even make for some funny effects |
| 00:16:30 | HCl | so it needs to check every pixel whether its the background color or not... |
| 00:16:36 | HCl | isn't that really expensive? |
| 00:17:00 | amiconn | Yes, and that's the optimisation I'm talking about all the time |
| 00:17:17 | HCl | i'm curious to how you would want to optimize that... |
| 00:18:15 | HCl | any suggestions....? |
| 00:18:27 | amiconn | I have some ideas |
| 00:18:50 | amiconn | Essentially for b&w->4-grey mapping, you need to 'expand' bits |
| 00:19:09 | HCl | shall i just implement them with testing every pixel and setting accordingly for now? |
| 00:19:12 | amiconn | i.e. make 2 bits out of one |
| 00:20:36 | rasher | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/20/1810206&tid=214&tid=186 WOO! |
| 00:20:39 | amiconn | That can be done reasonably fast with lookup tables. Either for one whole byte (mapping to 2 bytes, and needing a 512 bytes table), or separately per nibble |
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| 00:21:35 | amiconn | I think pixel-wise testing should be sufficient for a first version. Just check that it isn't dead-slow |
| 00:21:41 | HCl | mhm |
| 00:21:51 | ehntoo | rasher: old news... it's been on the BBC site for nearly a year. |
| 00:22:07 | HCl | amiconn: what should happen with non-monochrome bitmaps? |
| 00:22:39 | amiconn | Non-monochrome could be in 2 formats for a greycsale core |
| 00:22:52 | amiconn | Native format is trivial, just map, possibly with shift |
| 00:23:09 | amiconn | 1 byte/pixel needs some arithmetics |
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| 00:23:37 | amiconn | The 1 byte/pixel function isn't needed in the core though |
| 00:23:38 | HCl | map? |
| 00:23:42 | HCl | yea, i saw |
| 00:24:09 | amiconn | Yes, similar to how the current b&w lcd_bitmap() implementation works |
| 00:24:32 | HCl | i don't know how it works now, just putting it on the screen as if it was a blit? |
| 00:24:54 | amiconn | That would only allow to put the bitmap on y positions divisable by 8 |
| 00:25:03 | HCl | yea, ok. |
| 00:25:05 | HCl | but something like that. |
| 00:25:12 | amiconn | (But actually that shortcut is used when this condition is met) |
| 00:25:17 | HCl | uhuh. |
| 00:25:38 | amiconn | For other y positions, you simply need to shift the data |
| 00:25:54 | HCl | hrm... |
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| 00:26:11 | HCl | shift? |
| 00:26:16 | amiconn | Did I tell you about bit wizardry? ;-) |
| 00:26:20 | HCl | nope. |
| 00:26:24 | HCl | i'm thinking i should lay off this, heh. |
| 00:26:34 | HCl | flatmates yelling around over tv isn't helping |
| 00:27:57 | amiconn | For b&w, you need to bitshift the data before mapping by y % 8 ( or y & 7, which is the same) |
| 00:28:28 | HCl | i don't understand why you would bitshift, but ok, i suck at math. |
| 00:28:29 | rasher | ehntoo: well it's not been "coming in 2 weeks" for a year :) |
| 00:28:56 | ehntoo | rasher: I suppose so. |
| 00:29:00 | amiconn | HCl: You need to bitshift because one byte corresponds to 8 pixels vertically |
| 00:29:19 | amiconn | If you want to have the bitmap one pixel down, you need to shift by one bit etc |
| 00:29:22 | HCl | yes, i know that. i'm confused to why you would need to move them at all. |
| 00:29:31 | HCl | can't you just set the first so many lines |
| 00:29:40 | HCl | till its aligned with a byte |
| 00:29:42 | HCl | then blit |
| 00:29:54 | amiconn | No, you can't |
| 00:29:59 | HCl | why not? |
| 00:30:39 | HCl | if unaligned, set up to 7 pixel rows by hand, then its aligned and you can blit the rest.. |
| 00:31:21 | amiconn | Just draw it on a paper, then you'll see what I mean. If you e.g. start at line 1 (counting from 0), and you set the 7 rows by hand, you have one pixel of the top row of the source bitmap 'left over' |
| 00:31:45 | HCl | i'm not following what you mean at all x.x; |
| 00:31:54 | amiconn | If you just go for blitting the following rows, this pixel row would be missing from the image |
| 00:32:18 | * | HCl sighs. |
| 00:32:20 | HCl | i'll just give up then. |
| 00:32:26 | HCl | i don't understand what you're saying whatsoever |
| 00:32:38 | ehntoo | HCl, try it your way. If it doesn't work in a test, do it his way. |
| 00:32:40 | amiconn | If it's not aligned at the top, the how can it become aligned further down? |
| 00:32:47 | amiconn | The answer is - it can't |
| 00:32:54 | HCl | amiconn: by doing the first so many lines, till its aligned. |
| 00:33:01 | amiconn | How? |
| 00:33:19 | HCl | you just do up to 7 lines by hand in a loop, then blit whats left of the image o.o.. |
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| 00:33:38 | amiconn | That doesn't work for sure |
| 00:33:44 | HCl | why not? |
| 00:34:07 | amiconn | Well, this is very difficult to show with text only... |
| 00:34:21 | HCl | i think i'll just try what i'm thinking... |
| 00:34:28 | HCl | and give up if i fail o.o |
| 00:34:40 | ehntoo|afk | didn't I just say that? |
| 00:34:44 | HCl | yup |
| 00:34:46 | ehntoo|afk | ah. |
| 00:34:49 | ehntoo|afk | just checking. |
| 00:34:51 | HCl | :P |
| 00:35:05 | HCl | first i'll start with if aligned, blit. |
| 00:37:01 | HCl | yay. |
| 00:37:19 | * | HCl 's password cracking is going well :3 |
| 00:41:09 | * | HCl sighs. |
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| 00:41:30 | HCl | its hard to concentrate when flatmates are watching "the pizza hut" music video >.< |
| 00:48:18 | HCl | i wrote a simple lcd_bitmap().. i don't see why it wouldn't work, but i have no way to test it at the moment |
| 00:49:08 | * | HCl is gonna go sleep or something... |
| 00:54:02 | HCl | maybe i'm confused to what stride's supposed to be.. |
| 00:58:01 | * | HCl prods amiconn to look at privmsg |
| 00:58:04 | * | HCl crawls into bed |
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| 02:11:39 | stevenm | hello people |
| 02:11:42 | stevenm | well that was a lot of fun |
| 02:11:55 | stevenm | anything new w/ rockbox ? |
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| 02:16:44 | rasher | evening |
| 02:17:57 | stevenm | hi |
| 02:18:29 | stevenm | man it is hot outside |
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| 02:45:23 | stevenm | Hey guys, what is faster? An if statement or a multiply? |
| 02:45:55 | stevenm | I am not sure what to do - I have code, if(variable == constant) then x = x + y |
| 02:46:19 | stevenm | would it be better changing the variable to 0 and then being x = x + y*variable; ? |
| 02:47:49 | * | rasher has absolutely no idea |
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| 02:54:00 | Sirwa2 | anyone awake? |
| 02:54:20 | stevenm | yea |
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| 02:55:42 | Sirwa2 | im have jukebox recorder, but i need to navigate to speak menu's bling.. |
| 02:55:52 | Sirwa2 | display is broken |
| 02:55:57 | Sirwa2 | blind i mean |
| 02:56:32 | Sirwa2 | i just instaled new 80 hd..blind aswell :D it worked 2e time around :D :D |
| 02:57:59 | Sirwa2 | you know what menu vocie is under? |
| 02:58:10 | stevenm | uhh |
| 02:58:30 | stevenm | General Settings |
| 02:58:32 | stevenm | at the bottom |
| 02:59:18 | Sirwa2 | hmm must have old version in flash rom.. |
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| 03:00:38 | Sirwa2 | tnx , that helps |
| 03:00:46 | stevenm | no problem |
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| 03:16:57 | ehntoo | HCl, still here? |
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| 09:18:38 | bobTHC | hi folks ! |
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| 09:40:36 | B4gder | buenas dias! |
| 09:40:48 | bobTHC | hi |
| 09:41:05 | bobTHC | s/hi/hola ;) |
| 09:45:51 | * | B4gder heard 15 seconds of mp3 yday... |
| 09:45:58 | B4gder | :-) |
| 09:46:33 | dwihno | \o/ |
| 09:46:35 | dwihno | Hooray! |
| 09:46:53 | dwihno | ... and there was much rejoicing |
| 09:46:53 | dwihno | :) |
| 09:52:14 | B4gder | no, and then it crashed ;-) |
| 09:53:26 | ashridah | heh. lockup-and-needing-reset crash, or crash-with-illinst-or-something crash? |
| 09:56:37 | B4gder | the lockup style |
| 09:57:00 | B4gder | most probably when wrapping the pcm buffer |
| 09:57:11 | B4gder | which incidently is 15 seconds big |
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| 10:05:28 | austriancoder | morning |
| 10:06:19 | * | HCl yawns |
| 10:07:50 | austriancoder | i think i have the i2c read stuff |
| 10:07:52 | * | HCl yawns again |
| 10:07:54 | HCl | cool. |
| 10:08:00 | * | HCl keeps his alarmclock running |
| 10:08:15 | * | HCl has to go do AI with markun |
| 10:08:28 | austriancoder | ah markun |
| 10:08:37 | austriancoder | grayscale ;) |
| 10:09:09 | HCl | i might prod him a bit about it, if rockbox comes up as topic |
| 10:09:09 | HCl | anyways |
| 10:09:17 | * | HCl goes to get dressed and stuff |
| 10:13:07 | LinusN | B4gder: hi |
| 10:14:42 | B4gder | howdy ho, any further progress since? |
| 10:14:59 | LinusN | well, i slept on the pcm watermark issue |
| 10:15:24 | B4gder | the libmad api still hurts my head... |
| 10:15:27 | HCl | whats the pcm watermark issue? |
| 10:15:40 | B4gder | we have many issues ;-) |
| 10:15:46 | LinusN | and i came to the conclusion that we were on the wrong track with using the end-of-track callback for advancing pcmbuf_read |
| 10:16:03 | LinusN | the watermark callback is sufficient |
| 10:16:14 | B4gder | ok |
| 10:16:18 | LinusN | we don't need to advance pcmbuf_read until the watermark is reached |
| 10:16:26 | B4gder | true |
| 10:16:32 | B4gder | since we won't fill anything anyway |
| 10:16:34 | LinusN | since we won't start filling it before the watermark is reached anyway |
| 10:16:37 | LinusN | right |
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| 10:20:51 | B4gder | morning Z |
| 10:21:11 | Zagor | howdy |
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| 10:22:34 | ashridah | LinusN: so the amount of time the watermark covers is enough to load a new codec and a new file, in the unlikely but possible point that the amount below the watermark includes a change of file? |
| 10:22:44 | * | Zagor is working on his kitchen again today |
| 10:23:21 | LinusN | ashridah: there are two buffers and two watermarks |
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| 10:24:39 | LinusN | the pcm buffer watermark should cover the worst-case thread scheduling time before the audio thread can decode a new chunk of pcm audio |
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| 10:27:28 | LinusN | the file loading business is another matter |
| 10:34:03 | LinusN | and so far, my code doesn't handle multicodec, and has the mp3 codec statically linked |
| 10:34:37 | B4gder | but there _is_ a struct rbx_codec! :-) |
| 10:34:43 | LinusN | :-) |
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| 10:36:46 | sox | hoy can i ask a slightly off topic unix question to all wizards? |
| 10:36:56 | LinusN | shoot |
| 10:37:21 | sox | how do I track differences between two file dirs? |
| 10:37:35 | sox | i want to know if i have files in one file structure that i dont have in the other |
| 10:38:43 | B4gder | ditt two ls ouputs |
| 10:38:47 | B4gder | diff |
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| 10:39:21 | MoosCamaro | good morning all |
| 10:39:30 | B4gder | morning |
| 10:39:35 | sox | yeah, something like that, but i was hoping you could supply me with the whole string of commands since im such a loser |
| 10:40:04 | B4gder | with bash I believe you can do "diff (ls dir1) (ls dir2)" |
| 10:40:14 | sox | it's that simple |
| 10:40:19 | sox | wow |
| 10:40:42 | HCl | wouldn't it be find dir1 find dir2? |
| 10:40:59 | B4gder | find would work too |
| 10:41:08 | B4gder | if you want it recursively |
| 10:41:33 | sox | could you be more specific? |
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| 10:43:34 | B4gder | about what? |
| 10:43:44 | sox | the find command, parameters etc |
| 10:43:55 | B4gder | didn't the ls version work? |
| 10:44:10 | B4gder | it prolly won't give you exactly what you |
| 10:44:13 | B4gder | want |
| 10:44:49 | B4gder | "diff -u (find dir1) (find dir2) |
| 10:45:05 | sox | excellent, ill try that |
| 10:45:06 | sox | thanks |
| 10:45:10 | B4gder | and you'll get - or on lines where files have been added or removed |
| 10:45:16 | austriancoder | can somebody tell me, what adress i need for the tuners i2c? |
| 10:45:18 | B4gder | crap |
| 10:45:26 | B4gder | cant type "plus" in this web client |
| 10:45:40 | austriancoder | MADR = 0x6c; is for audio chip |
| 10:47:04 | LinusN | i don't know |
| 10:47:21 | austriancoder | where could i find this info? |
| 10:47:35 | LinusN | the datasheet? |
| 10:47:54 | austriancoder | good idea ... |
| 10:48:49 | LinusN | looks like 0xc0 |
| 10:50:39 | austriancoder | will try it |
| 10:53:00 | austriancoder | need to go to bus now.. see you later |
| 10:53:41 | LinusN | firmware/tuner_philips.c is what you need |
| 10:53:53 | LinusN | and it uses 0xc0 |
| 10:54:06 | austriancoder | fine... |
| 10:54:20 | amiconn | hi all |
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| 10:54:47 | MoosCamaro | morning amiconn |
| 10:56:17 | MoosCamaro | have you got receive your h140? |
| 10:57:54 | amiconn | Zagor: Did you do some tests with my latest fat.patch? I updated it again, around 19:00 yday, and I don't know whether you caught that |
| 10:58:00 | DMJC | anyone know nmap really well? |
| 10:58:15 | amiconn | MoosCamaro: Still nothing :( |
| 10:58:55 | Zagor | amiconn: unfortunately i haven't tested anything yet. a good idea is probably to try and write a test case to catch each new bug we find. |
| 10:59:17 | Zagor | i.e. when we find a bug, write a test case that exposes it |
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| 11:03:24 | amiconn | Hmm. I'm not that good at writing test cases... but I could try |
| 11:03:45 | amiconn | Some of the issues arise only with very large directories |
| 11:04:12 | amiconn | (large also meaning many deleted entries) |
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| 11:04:53 | amiconn | However, I have a question whether it would be desirable to implement an improvement that is not officially documented |
| 11:05:23 | amiconn | There is that FATDIR_NTRES field, which is documented as 'don't touch' by microsoft |
| 11:06:42 | amiconn | I found out about 2 bits of this field |
| 11:07:56 | Zagor | what is the purpose of this field? |
| 11:09:31 | sox | b4gder: diff -u worked pretty good, but i want to compare the files not dependant to where they are in the structure, you think that's possible with some magic? |
| 11:10:03 | amiconn | Windows NT variants are able to preserve the case of filenames like FILE.TXT, FILE.txt, file.TXT and file.txt, using shortnames only |
| 11:10:30 | B4gder | sox: you mean without bothering about in what particular dir they are? |
| 11:10:38 | sox | exactly |
| 11:10:39 | amiconn | All these would be displayed as FILE.TXT in rockbox and Windos 9x; didn't test Linux |
| 11:11:20 | amiconn | Basically, there are 2 bits in FATDIR_NTRES that tell whether filename/ extension are lowercase |
| 11:11:52 | amiconn | We could support this when reading filenames; I wouldn't do this for writing |
| 11:12:05 | B4gder | sox: let each find do "find . -printf '%f\n' | sort' |
| 11:12:20 | amiconn | ...as we always write longnames anyway, and because of the 'don't touch' |
| 11:12:22 | B4gder | but with dir1 and dir2 instead of . |
| 11:12:49 | Zagor | amiconn: I agree |
| 11:14:39 | amiconn | I'd say this could be supported. Currently some dirs/files look a bit ugly in rockbox (e.g. AJBREC.AJZ), because they are shortnames in WinXP. WinXP lists that as ajbrec.ajz |
| 11:15:13 | Zagor | yeah. i'm in favor of supporting this for reading. |
| 11:15:25 | amiconn | ok |
| 11:15:49 | amiconn | I'll add that, just need to find a way to do this with too much additional code |
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| 11:17:30 | sox | b4gder: im getting syntax errors when using (find ...), tried ' and " too without luck, is there any other character i could try? |
| 11:19:11 | B4gder | so run the two find lines separately and genarate two files you diff |
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| 11:20:18 | sox | b4gder: that's a typical thing i would think of myself, thanks! |
| 11:48:23 | sox | thanks b4gder, i got it figured out at last |
| 11:48:26 | sox | see ya |
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| 11:55:51 | * | t0mas yawns... |
| 11:55:54 | t0mas | boring day of work :X |
| 11:56:18 | t0mas | and now I have a break... but LinusN is busy :( |
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| 12:19:10 | t0mas | hi preglow |
| 12:20:38 | preglow | hi |
| 12:21:22 | ashridah | oops. just installed rockbox into my home directory instead of my player. thank god you lot put everything in /.rockbox. :) |
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| 12:23:22 | t0mas | lol |
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| 12:25:46 | Shagnar | LinusN: gratulations to the 5s-mp3-playback :] |
| 12:27:38 | * | t0mas is away again... |
| 12:27:44 | t0mas | end of lunch break :) |
| 12:37:09 | ehntoo | morning, all |
| 12:37:46 | * | ehntoo has got to run... stupid schooling systems |
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| 13:02:33 | Shagnar | yeah my h1x0remote came. (ordered from brooklyn to germany) |
| 13:02:48 | micoo | :p |
| 13:02:49 | HCl | nice |
| 13:02:56 | HCl | what color is it? |
| 13:03:49 | Shagnar | black one |
| 13:04:20 | HCl | k |
| 13:05:00 | Shagnar | and it works :D (just tested). got it for 53€ (with porto), the lowest auction from germany was at 70€ |
| 13:05:19 | HCl | wow... |
| 13:05:26 | HCl | high prices |
| 13:05:31 | LinusN | what happened to your original remote? |
| 13:06:34 | Shagnar | stolen... |
| 13:07:09 | HCl | why would someone steal an iriver remote o.o.. |
| 13:08:12 | Shagnar | was on my trousers during the physical education @ school. fortunately my H was in my bag, and they didn't look at it |
| 13:08:32 | Shagnar | i think the thieves thought it 'd be a player |
| 13:08:49 | ashridah | HCl: probably because they thought it was an entire player. |
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| 13:09:04 | Shagnar | i think so, too |
| 13:09:34 | preglow | LinusN: libmad is fast enough to withstand being used as a proper codec now i hope? |
| 13:09:38 | tvelocity[away] | Shagnar, how much did you pay for it? |
| 13:09:38 | ashridah | lots of people seem ultra surprised when i tell them my player holds 40GB :). "in that tiny thing?!" uh. no. in this block.... "oh. an ipod is smaller than that. ick". then they find out mine now plays gb roms :) |
| 13:09:49 | LinusN | preglow: i hope so |
| 13:10:21 | ashridah | tvelocity[away]: Shagnar and it works :D (just tested). got it for 53€ (with porto), the lowest auction from germany was at 70€ |
| 13:10:37 | tvelocity[away] | oh i see |
| 13:10:42 | ashridah | hm. those symbols might not have printed properly here, so i have no idea if they printed properly for you lot :) |
| 13:10:47 | tvelocity[away] | 53 euros? sounds expensive |
| 13:10:51 | Shagnar | yes |
| 13:10:56 | preglow | i'd love to work some more on it, but my conscience doesn't allow it, heh |
| 13:11:03 | HCl | ashridah: lol. |
| 13:11:08 | Lynx_ | for 53 euro it's worth stealing the remotes ;) |
| 13:11:08 | Shagnar | very expensive, since the whole player is ~ 400 euros |
| 13:11:35 | HCl | darnit. |
| 13:11:45 | * | HCl had things to add to the todolist, but forgot some.. |
| 13:11:47 | Shagnar | i ordered another one from a shop (30euros). didn't get it for over 1 month now, if i get it i'll sell it on ebay |
| 13:11:47 | tvelocity[away] | well, i don't want to dissapoint you, but i don't use AT ALL my remote, and i could have sent it to you for free, if I knew:P |
| 13:12:03 | preglow | was it anyone here who tried to repair a h1x0 who had been damaged with the wrong charger? |
| 13:12:40 | preglow | i've got one of those coming in in a while, and will probably try to repair it |
| 13:13:30 | HCl | LinusN: does rockbox on iriver keep track of passed time in total, or just the current session, and if just the current session, can we make it store the total time passed? |
| 13:14:27 | B4gder | preglow: Linus has one too, afaik |
| 13:14:55 | B4gder | hcl: there is an internal clock that always counts |
| 13:15:11 | HCl | B4gder: but is it session or total ? |
| 13:15:16 | B4gder | for delays time-outs |
| 13:15:19 | B4gder | and |
| 13:15:27 | B4gder | it starts on boot and counts forever |
| 13:15:32 | HCl | i'm wanting to store the total time passed while the player is on |
| 13:15:41 | B4gder | tick counter |
| 13:15:49 | HCl | in order to enable "last time played" stuff for the runtime db |
| 13:16:13 | LinusN | preglow: i have bad news |
| 13:16:38 | preglow | :/ |
| 13:16:51 | * | HCl prods amiconn |
| 13:16:55 | LinusN | HCl: we'll implement such a timer if it is needed |
| 13:17:10 | LinusN | preglow: it is likely that the unit is deep fried |
| 13:17:49 | ashridah | lord knows why they didn't add overvoltage or overcurrent protection to it, given the common size of the jack |
| 13:17:51 | preglow | LinusN: what parts are affected? 'all' doesn't sound very likely |
| 13:17:59 | ashridah | LinusN: will it have killed the drive too? |
| 13:18:15 | LinusN | plugging in a charger with too high voltage will fry the capacitors that regulate the voltage to the cpu |
| 13:18:28 | LinusN | and the cpu will get too high voltage |
| 13:18:35 | preglow | ouchouch |
| 13:18:36 | LinusN | the drive will be ok |
| 13:18:38 | HCl | LinusN: okay, its going to get needed sooner or later for the runtime db. |
| 13:18:57 | preglow | so there's no voltage regulator or anything in the unit? |
| 13:19:04 | LinusN | that's what i have seen on my fried player at least |
| 13:19:14 | LinusN | there is a voltage regulator |
| 13:19:29 | LinusN | the output voltage is controlled by said capacitors |
| 13:19:30 | preglow | then why didn't that regulate? :P |
| 13:19:50 | preglow | oh well |
| 13:19:54 | preglow | i can still use it for spare parts |
| 13:20:15 | ashridah | preglow: heh. mod your own player and then mod rockbox to allow two hard drives >:) |
| 13:20:17 | LinusN | i used mine to repair my nokia phone |
| 13:20:25 | preglow | heh, so i saw |
| 13:20:26 | HCl | ohyea. |
| 13:20:47 | preglow | i've managed to damage part of the casing around the side screw holes on mine |
| 13:20:53 | preglow | i'd like to have that replaced |
| 13:22:15 | HCl | how'd you do that anyways... |
| 13:22:37 | preglow | the side panels are separate pieces |
| 13:23:06 | preglow | or do you mean how i managed to damage it? :P |
| 13:23:19 | HCl | the latter |
| 13:23:19 | HCl | :P |
| 13:23:47 | preglow | well, by taking it apart one too many times, combined with obviously not having things put properly together when screwing it together |
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| 13:24:06 | preglow | there's been a lot of tension around those screws, so something obviously didn't sit right |
| 13:24:08 | HCl | okay |
| 13:26:18 | HCl | preglow: i can just rewrite dumbout into plugin form and not worry over floats for now, right? |
| 13:26:35 | preglow | no |
| 13:26:42 | preglow | dumb uses libm routines we don't have |
| 13:26:56 | HCl | so that means..? |
| 13:27:02 | preglow | it wont compile |
| 13:27:05 | preglow | link, at that |
| 13:27:28 | preglow | lemme have a quick peek |
| 13:27:37 | HCl | which routines don't we have.. |
| 13:27:40 | HCl | floor, pow and log? |
| 13:28:34 | preglow | you need exp, pow |
| 13:28:44 | HCl | mk |
| 13:29:02 | preglow | there probably are soft float version hanging around somewhere |
| 13:29:28 | HCl | mhm. |
| 13:29:46 | HCl | added it to the todolist |
| 13:29:57 | * | HCl prods amiconn |
| 13:30:05 | HCl | wake up :x |
| 13:30:12 | preglow | the pow we can use a lookup table for |
| 13:30:21 | preglow | with interpolation, probably, ear is pretty sensitive to pitch |
| 13:30:33 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 13:30:40 | * | t0mas loves vpn and wifi :D |
| 13:30:47 | t0mas | (and hates waiting...) |
| 13:31:19 | dwihno | How hard is it to setup a small vpn? |
| 13:31:33 | t0mas | really easy... |
| 13:31:37 | t0mas | (on linux) |
| 13:32:00 | t0mas | and on windows workstation's it just clicking a wizzard... but you have a max on 1 connection... |
| 13:32:01 | dwihno | Our environment is mainly windows boxes |
| 13:32:15 | t0mas | yeah, I'm working on a windows laptop right now... |
| 13:32:30 | t0mas | clients aren't a problem... you just need a linux server... or a windows 2000/2003 server edition |
| 13:32:39 | preglow | filter coef calculation might also prove to be tricky |
| 13:32:58 | dwihno | OpenVPN looks pretty nice |
| 13:33:10 | t0mas | pptpd is easyer |
| 13:33:13 | Shagnar | well, i don't want to dissapoint you, but i don't use AT ALL my remote, and i could have sent it to you for free, if I knew:P <= i would have asked you if i knew that you don't use it ;-) |
| 13:33:22 | t0mas | and windows can connect to it without extra software |
| 13:33:24 | dwihno | The setup will probably be a Linux server and a bunch of Windows clients |
| 13:33:40 | t0mas | then install pptpd... that's really easy |
| 13:34:06 | dwihno | t0mas: How about windows clients? |
| 13:34:22 | t0mas | just follow the add connection wizzard... |
| 13:34:32 | t0mas | they can connect to pptp servers... |
| 13:35:01 | * | B4gder prefers a plain ssh |
| 13:36:14 | t0mas | arg... |
| 13:36:26 | t0mas | have to continue working :X |
| 13:36:35 | t0mas | see you in a few hours :) |
| 13:36:42 | HCl | why is the firmware flash plugin built for iriver.. |
| 13:38:29 | HCl | preglow: are there some compile options to stop gcc emulating fp math? |
| 13:42:41 | preglow | try -mnosoft-float |
| 13:43:54 | HCl | k |
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| 13:49:38 | HCl | invalid option |
| 13:49:40 | HCl | :/ |
| 13:49:55 | preglow | then i don't know |
| 13:51:07 | HCl | k :/ |
| 13:52:54 | B4gder | -mno-soft-float |
| 13:53:04 | HCl | tried that |
| 13:53:05 | HCl | didn't work either |
| 13:53:09 | B4gder | ok |
| 13:55:13 | HCl | i mostly just want gcc to produce an error on floats so i can easily detect where to fix what.. |
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| 14:07:32 | ashridah | #undef float |
| 14:07:35 | ashridah | ? |
| 14:07:39 | ashridah | :) |
| 14:08:15 | ashridah | hrm. might not do the job. that probably won't detect someone using something*10.0; |
| 14:11:19 | preglow | there are few places where it's used |
| 14:11:23 | preglow | just grep for float and go from there |
| 14:11:28 | HCl | mmm. |
| 14:11:39 | * | HCl just thought of two other coding projects on his list that he could do first |
| 14:11:40 | preglow | you can also detect the floating point emulation calls by using objdump |
| 14:12:33 | HCl | XD XD |
| 14:13:31 | HCl | anime is great :3 |
| 14:13:38 | * | HCl goes to work on his coding stuff |
| 14:13:39 | preglow | haha, weeeelll |
| 14:13:42 | preglow | some of it is |
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| 14:23:44 | dwihno | B4gder: plain ssh? |
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| 14:29:59 | B4gder | yes, ssh is vpn enough for me |
| 14:31:13 | dwihno | B4gder: do you tunnel everything through the ssh connection? |
| 14:31:31 | B4gder | yes, at least the stuff I want to tunnel |
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| 14:40:54 | preglow | ssh is nice |
| 14:41:27 | Lynx_ | but stuff like ftp is not so easy to tunnel via ssh, is it? |
| 14:41:37 | B4gder | no |
| 14:41:44 | B4gder | but I don't need to tunnel ftp |
| 14:42:11 | dwihno | Looks like OpenVPN is what we're looking for |
| 14:42:22 | B4gder | if you don't do ppp over ssh perhaps |
| 14:43:04 | dwihno | pppssh! :) |
| 14:43:20 | B4gder | well, pptp is basically that, only with worse security |
| 14:43:29 | dwihno | pppssh(tm) - The Official beer opener sound \o/ |
| 14:43:58 | HCl | i need a .mod to test.. |
| 14:44:10 | dwihno | HCl: you're working on mikmod support? :O |
| 14:44:11 | HCl | never mind |
| 14:44:18 | HCl | dwihno: we have dumb, not mikmod |
| 14:44:35 | HCl | and no o.o. its just some other software that i have that suddenly seems to have gotten mod suppost |
| 14:44:38 | HCl | and i want to try it out |
| 14:45:03 | Shagnar | could someone build the actual CVS with the grayscale patch and send it to me? would be very nice! |
| 14:45:24 | dwihno | :) |
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| 14:50:54 | elinenbe | could someone build the CVS with grayscale, mp3, and ogg support and ship it my way ;) |
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| 14:51:35 | Byron | hello |
| 14:51:47 | Byron | is there a lock or hold button on the archos |
| 14:52:02 | Byron | I put it in my pocket and then accidentally shut it off |
| 14:52:52 | amiconn | Byron: There's a lock feature for the wps (only). It's described in the rockbox manual |
| 14:53:24 | Byron | wps? |
| 14:53:42 | amiconn | However, this can't protect against poweroff, because poweroff is a hardware feature |
| 14:54:15 | Byron | what's the wps? |
| 14:54:26 | Byron | We Pressed Stuff? |
| 14:54:27 | Byron | LOL |
| 14:54:36 | amiconn | While playing screen |
| 14:54:42 | Byron | oh |
| 14:54:59 | Byron | so no protection against accidentally stopping a recording? |
| 14:55:33 | LinusN | no |
| 14:55:39 | Byron | Drats! |
| 14:55:53 | Byron | I suppose that's not something that could be built in later? |
| 14:57:55 | LinusN | hardwarewise? sure |
| 14:58:19 | LinusN | you can modify the hardware in any way you wish |
| 14:58:48 | B4gder | the software too in fact ;-) |
| 14:58:53 | LinusN | hehehe |
| 14:59:15 | LinusN | but the software can't protect against accidental shutoff |
| 14:59:18 | Byron | but a "HOLD BUTTON" is not something that can be written into a daily update? |
| 14:59:45 | LinusN | Byron: yes we can do that, but we can't stop the OFF key |
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| 15:00:03 | Byron | you have to hold down the off key for a long time don't you? |
| 15:00:08 | Byron | to get it to shut down? |
| 15:00:12 | LinusN | 1 second for me |
| 15:00:22 | LinusN | Byron: which model do you have? |
| 15:00:33 | Byron | fm recorder 20 |
| 15:00:37 | LinusN | aha |
| 15:01:10 | LinusN | that's another story |
| 15:01:28 | LinusN | then we can add a keylock for the recording |
| 15:01:37 | Byron | if you made one of the buttons on the top be a "hold" button that would only go into that mode if you held it down for 3 seconds, then you could have all of the other buttons be ignored until that hold button was held in for another 3 seconds |
| 15:02:06 | LinusN | Byron: i'm with you, that should be possible |
| 15:02:12 | Byron | cool |
| 15:02:52 | Byron | now for the next thing on my list... could you write my code to make my crappy headphone jack stop crackeling :-) |
| 15:03:01 | LinusN | of course .-) |
| 15:03:54 | Byron | I bought my own archos on e-bay after borrowing a friends for a month... 6 months in Byron Time, and loved it... but the one that I got has a flakey headphone jack... d'oh! |
| 15:04:06 | LinusN | that can be repaired |
| 15:04:13 | HCl | hmm. |
| 15:04:30 | Byron | Yeah, but since I'm almost totally blind I'm not gonna make the repair myself |
| 15:04:35 | LinusN | hehe |
| 15:04:41 | Byron | going to probably take it to a friend of mine and see what he can do. |
| 15:04:46 | LinusN | do so |
| 15:05:30 | Byron | BTW, as far as I can tell the archos has the firmware in the flash now, can I deleate the rockbox folder on my unit? |
| 15:05:48 | LinusN | no, don't do that |
| 15:05:49 | B4gder | byron: no, that is used |
| 15:05:53 | Byron | okay |
| 15:05:57 | Byron | won't do that |
| 15:06:35 | Byron | so when an update comes out with the new lock feature, do I need to reload the rockbox firmware into flash or can I just replace the old rockbox folder with the current one? |
| 15:10:43 | preglow | depends on if it's flashed or not |
| 15:11:02 | preglow | is the archos mas mp3 encoder decent quality? |
| 15:11:39 | Byron | Yes, it's been flashed |
| 15:11:52 | preglow | then you will probably need to reflash it |
| 15:12:02 | Byron | ah |
| 15:12:10 | preglow | .rockbox dir only contains fonts, plugins and such |
| 15:12:24 | Byron | makes sense |
| 15:13:53 | LinusN | preglow: and the .playlist_control file |
| 15:14:10 | LinusN | which is needed for playback |
| 15:15:09 | t0mas | LinusN? have you commited the plugin api change? |
| 15:17:15 | HCl | hmmm. |
| 15:17:20 | HCl | will we support .oxm? :P |
| 15:17:46 | HCl | (.xm with ogg as its sample format) |
| 15:19:10 | preglow | HCl: if you want to |
| 15:19:40 | Shagnar | LinusN: do you implement the mp3-test-code like the /sample.wav code? |
| 15:19:50 | preglow | we'd have to devise a way for codecs to be loadable by other codecs, but... |
| 15:19:50 | B4gder | we'll support everything people write code for |
| 15:20:44 | preglow | HCl: actually, it might not even be a problem, the loader part of the codecs should never require any iram, so loading another codec within the loader part of another codec should be possible |
| 15:21:45 | preglow | but i will not be the one coding it, heh |
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| 15:23:34 | LinusN | Shagnar: what do you mean "like the /sample.wav code"? |
| 15:23:51 | t0mas | I think he want's it in the debug menu... |
| 15:24:10 | Shagnar | if you implement the mp3-test like the wav-test (yes, in debug menu) |
| 15:24:21 | LinusN | no, this is for real |
| 15:24:33 | LinusN | press play on an mp3 file |
| 15:24:47 | Shagnar | nice :) |
| 15:24:57 | LinusN | but it is not in cvs yet |
| 15:25:23 | Shagnar | ah, okay. will it be implemented soon? (sorry, i know you hate these type of questions) |
| 15:25:38 | LinusN | as soon as i find the time to work on it |
| 15:25:56 | Shagnar | hehe okay :) |
| 15:28:20 | t0mas | and thisone: <t0mas> LinusN? have you commited the plugin api change? |
| 15:28:31 | LinusN | nope |
| 15:28:37 | LinusN | i'm at work too you know |
| 15:28:41 | t0mas | ah ok |
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| 15:35:06 | Byron | are you guys trying to support ogg somehow? |
| 15:35:21 | Byron | I thought that couldn't be done |
| 15:35:36 | t0mas | it's opensource afaik |
| 15:35:39 | t0mas | so it should be possible |
| 15:36:02 | Byron | thought the hardware couldn't handle it... but if it can be done then... AWSOME! |
| 15:36:10 | HCl | Byron: he means iriver.. |
| 15:36:13 | HCl | not archos. |
| 15:36:14 | t0mas | yes |
| 15:36:14 | Byron | ooh |
| 15:36:15 | Byron | damn |
| 15:36:17 | Byron | okay |
| 15:36:18 | HCl | archos can't and won't do ogg. |
| 15:36:18 | t0mas | sorry, forgot that |
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| 15:36:26 | Byron | heehhe |
| 15:36:29 | HCl | no worries, i was about to say the same thing till byron went awesome xD |
| 15:36:38 | HCl | and i realized he asked an archos question earlier |
| 15:36:43 | * | Byron is tempted to get an iriver, the iriver has a mic-in |
| 15:36:47 | Byron | and the archos does not |
| 15:36:49 | t0mas | archos has a hardware decoder... |
| 15:36:51 | HCl | not just a mic in |
| 15:37:00 | HCl | optical in too |
| 15:37:19 | t0mas | and iriver does it in software... that's why we can decode ogg |
| 15:37:29 | ashridah | HCl: for the H1xx series only. |
| 15:37:34 | ashridah | H3xx doesn't have optical iirc |
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| 15:37:47 | Byron | I hooked a mic up to a preamp and then plugged the preamp into line in and than stuffed the whole thing into a fanny pack |
| 15:39:14 | Byron | I've been wondering if one of those radio shack hearing devices might work... it's a little box that has a built in mic and headphone jack, use a patch cord and plug it into the line-in |
| 15:39:34 | Byron | they're only 9 bucks at radio shack and will probably work |
| 15:40:41 | ashridah | but yeah, iriver has a) a built in mic, b) a line in jack c) a mic-in jack (aka, the line in jack, with a software selectable gain thinggy) d) optical in |
| 15:41:27 | t0mas | and e) ogg playback :D |
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| 15:42:15 | Byron | Wow, that's nice |
| 15:42:19 | Byron | too bad I'm piss poor |
| 15:42:38 | * | Byron starts scouring ebay |
| 15:42:50 | ashridah | too bad H1xx's are getting harder to get |
| 15:43:02 | HCl | ashridah: 3xx has optical in only, i think... not even sure of that |
| 15:43:04 | preglow | they're also quite expensive, they say |
| 15:43:08 | preglow | it has no optical |
| 15:43:13 | preglow | only h1x0 has optical |
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| 15:43:30 | t0mas | nobody uses optical... |
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| 15:43:40 | preglow | i do, occasionally |
| 15:43:43 | t0mas | ah |
| 15:43:51 | preglow | but no, not much |
| 15:44:03 | t0mas | I've tested it once... |
| 15:44:11 | preglow | but the point is kind of gone with the h1x0 |
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| 15:44:19 | preglow | as it can't bloody use proper sample rates |
| 15:44:45 | t0mas | ah |
| 15:44:55 | HCl | only 44.1 ? |
| 15:45:07 | HCl | we can use two optical cables to do a game link between irivers! :P |
| 15:45:08 | preglow | and 22.05, 11.025, etc |
| 15:45:28 | HCl | preglow: linus said the optical was connected to the cpu, so shouldn't we be able to get it to 48 ? |
| 15:45:44 | HCl | aside from the sound chip not supporting 48khz |
| 15:45:44 | preglow | no |
| 15:45:49 | HCl | why not? |
| 15:46:11 | preglow | ahh, it might in some kind of optical out only mode |
| 15:46:25 | preglow | but the iriver firmware resamples everything to 44.1 |
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| 15:46:28 | t0mas | HCl: gamelinking would be funny |
| 15:46:38 | t0mas | but not much people have irivers... |
| 15:46:51 | HCl | i know :P |
| 15:46:54 | HCl | it would be totally pointless |
| 15:46:58 | HCl | aside from me and markun being able to link |
| 15:47:05 | HCl | and i know one other guy on the university who has one |
| 15:47:09 | HCl | but i don't think he has rockbox |
| 15:47:46 | Byron | I really hate the internal mic on the archos because of all of the hard drive noise, how does the iriver deal with the hard-drive noise? |
| 15:47:58 | t0mas | well.... you hear it |
| 15:48:09 | t0mas | so it's not really great |
| 15:48:17 | Byron | that sucks, but hey... atleast there is an mic-in |
| 15:48:24 | t0mas | yeah |
| 15:49:14 | HCl | watashi wa baka desu.. |
| 15:49:25 | * | B4gder giggles at Christi's mail |
| 15:49:47 | HCl | i need to disable the digest version.. |
| 15:50:02 | preglow | haha |
| 15:50:07 | preglow | how politically uncorrect of linus |
| 15:50:24 | B4gder | he's such a rude person ;-) |
| 15:59:39 | * | t0mas wonders what he missed? |
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| 15:59:48 | t0mas | "So when do I get told?" |
| 15:59:51 | t0mas | eh? |
| 15:59:57 | t0mas | what's the fun of that? |
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| 16:00:00 | preglow | haha |
| 16:00:03 | preglow | look at the subject |
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| 16:00:18 | t0mas | ooooooh |
| 16:00:23 | t0mas | took me some time :P |
| 16:00:26 | t0mas | lol |
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| 16:07:52 | HCl | strstr(blah*512+0x537318,"/tmp"); |
| 16:08:01 | HCl | gotta love code that utilizes reverse engineered addresses :| |
| 16:08:23 | preglow | ....... |
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| 19:23:05 | HCl | hello o.o |
| 19:24:10 | rasher | hola |
| 19:25:24 | amiconn | hi |
| 19:25:40 | HCl | sup? |
| 19:26:21 | rasher | not much.. stayed up all night, slept all day u.U |
| 19:28:21 | HCl | microsoft should improve their msdn search engine... |
| 19:28:36 | HCl | can anyone tell me how to get a directory listing in windows? |
| 19:28:41 | rasher | s/ their msdn search engine// |
| 19:28:53 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 19:29:46 | t0mas | HCl: there's a great site for that things... |
| 19:31:00 | HCl | which? |
| 19:31:10 | t0mas | google... |
| 19:31:22 | HCl | *forces a smile* |
| 19:31:25 | HCl | that doesn't help t0mas. |
| 19:31:51 | t0mas | http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=299748 |
| 19:31:55 | t0mas | googled up... |
| 19:32:09 | HCl | i used google at first |
| 19:32:17 | HCl | but it just gave msdn as first 3 hits |
| 19:32:49 | t0mas | hm... I didn't see MSDN at all... |
| 19:32:53 | HCl | thanks |
| 19:33:00 | HCl | i knew it was something like that |
| 19:33:04 | HCl | i thought it was findfile |
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| 20:23:15 | rasher | boo! |
| 20:23:26 | * | preglow jumps |
| 20:23:42 | * | Shagnar jumps, too |
| 20:23:59 | rasher | you landed on my *foot* |
| 20:24:07 | rasher | Ow! |
| 20:24:22 | rasher | haha! |
| 20:24:37 | rasher | cgi:irc has insaned |
| 20:24:38 | rasher | I typed those lines in reverse order |
| 20:27:16 | Shagnar | o_O? |
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| 20:33:53 | Shagnar | hello stevenm :) |
| 20:34:01 | stevenm | Hello Shagnar |
| 20:34:07 | stevenm | something about jumping on feet ? |
| 20:34:10 | t0mas | hi |
| 20:34:23 | stevenm | helo |
| 20:35:02 | Shagnar | something about jumping on feet ? <= what do you mean? ^^ |
| 20:36:03 | stevenm | Just checked IRC log. Saw something about preglow landing on rasher's foot |
| 20:36:07 | stevenm | I figured this was too good to miss |
| 20:36:10 | t0mas | just jokes |
| 20:36:14 | stevenm | :) |
| 20:36:22 | amiconn | Yeah! FAT shortname NTRES case support is working. Adds only 80 bytes of code size :-) |
| 20:36:39 | t0mas | nice |
| 20:38:11 | amiconn | So now the question is whether to commit all my fat.c changes, commit this part first, or hold it back for later full-commit. Zagor? |
| 20:40:00 | HCl | i hate it when i'm scared to run my own code x.x; |
| 20:40:10 | t0mas | what have you coded? |
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| 20:48:33 | HCl | just a big block with a lot of pointer arithmetic... |
| 20:48:39 | HCl | and frees and mallocs and.. |
| 20:48:45 | HCl | the scariest bit is it hasn't crashed yet. |
| 20:52:05 | HCl | there we go. |
| 20:52:08 | HCl | ;/ |
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| 20:57:42 | amiconn | Strange... I've done what I think is a simplification of the source, but the binary size increased somewhat ?? |
| 20:58:02 | t0mas | check the asm output? |
| 20:58:10 | t0mas | maybe gcc didn't understand your simplification? |
| 20:58:13 | elinenbe | amiconn: get with it! |
| 20:58:58 | amiconn | Well, I had the following: |
| 20:59:43 | amiconn | (better not pasting this) |
| 20:59:50 | amiconn | fffft |
| 20:59:51 | t0mas | link? |
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| 21:01:06 | HCl | i gotta hand it to microsoft, their runtime stack corruption detection works great. |
| 21:01:19 | t0mas | ? |
| 21:01:38 | HCl | my program reported that it crashed cause the stack got corrupted around the variable buf. |
| 21:01:43 | HCl | and it was completely right. |
| 21:01:57 | t0mas | lol |
| 21:02:00 | Shagnar | lol |
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| 21:17:52 | HCl | ahh. its so nice when everything you've coded comes together and works |
| 21:18:11 | preglow | indeed |
| 21:19:55 | amiconn | t0mas: gcc does some very strange thing with my code, I checked the asm |
| 21:20:01 | * | rasher prods LyX |
| 21:22:19 | * | preglow looks forward to gcc4 |
| 21:23:42 | preglow | hah |
| 21:23:45 | preglow | it's out, actually |
| 21:24:11 | HCl | it is? o.o. ohyea. |
| 21:24:17 | HCl | i remember having it on ubuntu.. |
| 21:24:17 | rasher | It's in ubuntu |
| 21:24:17 | rasher | (breezy) |
| 21:24:53 | rasher | huh |
| 21:25:04 | rasher | this is new.. like.. a week tops |
| 21:25:37 | preglow | gcc4 was released just now |
| 21:25:52 | preglow | the breezy gcc is a prerelease |
| 21:26:22 | rasher | ah |
| 21:26:26 | rasher | adventurous |
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| 21:27:41 | preglow | i'm going breezy very soon |
| 21:27:59 | preglow | i hate not having a ton of packages ready for update every day |
| 21:28:02 | rasher | there's not much to see |
| 21:28:02 | rasher | yet |
| 21:28:12 | preglow | well, there's gcc4 |
| 21:28:27 | HCl | i hate bugs.. |
| 21:28:27 | amiconn | What's to be expected from gcc4? |
| 21:28:28 | rasher | yeah, it updates a *lot* |
| 21:28:28 | rasher | yes, there's that |
| 21:28:35 | preglow | tree-ssa should do wonders |
| 21:28:44 | preglow | slightly faster compilation |
| 21:28:52 | rasher | faster g I think |
| 21:29:02 | rasher | gplusplus |
| 21:29:09 | rasher | >< |
| 21:29:25 | preglow | amiconn: but yeah, there's a whole new optimizing layer |
| 21:29:26 | rasher | maybe I should just.. |
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| 21:30:36 | rasher | yes, I should |
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| 21:31:07 | preglow | bah |
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| 21:31:43 | rasher | still lagged like hell, but at least now I'm using a real client |
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| 21:37:51 | HCl | naming too many variables "buf" creates problems XD |
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| 21:58:12 | preglow | yo, rashy, do i need to jump through hoops to make breezy run here now? |
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| 21:58:53 | rasher | I just did s/hoary/breezy/ in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:58:55 | rasher | and that was it |
| 21:59:07 | preglow | any programs that are broken? |
| 21:59:22 | rasher | not for me :) |
| 21:59:34 | rasher | it's more or less identical to hoary release yet |
| 21:59:36 | rasher | except gcc4 |
| 21:59:52 | preglow | cool, i think i'll try that later |
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| 22:00:07 | preglow | and take gcc4 for a spin |
| 22:00:11 | preglow | is gcc 3.4 there as well? |
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| 22:01:39 | rasher | sure |
| 22:01:49 | rasher | it's just that the |
| 22:02:02 | rasher | 'gcc' package installs gcc4.0 instead of 3.4 now |
| 22:18:26 | * | amiconn is trying to build sh-elf-gcc 4.0.0 on cygwin |
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| 22:21:43 | thegeek | hehee |
| 22:21:46 | thegeek | funfunfun |
| 22:23:17 | preglow | amiconn: whatever happened to your linux? |
| 22:23:35 | Shagnar | little Question: is it possible to build a rbx with the actual viewers (midi2wave, etc) AND using grayscale (jpeg-viewer) ? or just older viewers+grayscale ? |
| 22:23:38 | amiconn | It's running well... occasionally |
| 22:25:47 | Shagnar | so you mean sometimes freezes, but no "harder" problems? |
| 22:26:09 | amiconn | No, I merely mean that I don't run it often |
| 22:26:26 | HCl | Shagnar: sure its possible. |
| 22:26:37 | HCl | Shagnar: just grab the grayscale patch and apply it against current cvs. |
| 22:26:57 | Shagnar | i've no software to build it on my machine (windows...) |
| 22:26:59 | amiconn | I have a laptop, running WinXP pro. For things that can be done in Linux only, I have a virtual machine running debian |
| 22:27:03 | HCl | ah. |
| 22:27:24 | HCl | well, i just updated the grayrockbox a few days ago |
| 22:27:27 | HCl | i'm not gonna do it every day |
| 22:27:39 | Shagnar | would be very very nice! |
| 22:28:17 | Bagder | Shagnar: you can build it on windows |
| 22:28:36 | amiconn | Whoa, gcc 4 sources uncompress to almost 200 MB |
| 22:28:48 | preglow | it's gotten rather large, yes |
| 22:28:51 | Bagder | hehe |
| 22:28:55 | HCl | 200mb of hand-typed text. heh. |
| 22:29:02 | Bagder | the world's largest CVS repository they use to say |
| 22:29:12 | * | HCl goes to make sake |
| 22:29:44 | rasher | that's crazy.. that's like 5 times the linux kernel source ^_^ |
| 22:29:50 | Shagnar | Bagder but i neet lot of software for it? .. /me doesn't know programming in C very well.. (including building the software) |
| 22:30:22 | Bagder | Shagnar: go with bluechip's devkit, its the smallest one that still builds rockbox |
| 22:31:38 | amiconn | Maybe I should time the build.... just started building binutils |
| 22:32:08 | rasher | it doesn't take very long really |
| 22:32:39 | amiconn | Iirc the last time I tried that (gcc 3.4.x) it took a total of > 1 hour |
| 22:32:44 | amiconn | (binutils + gcc) |
| 22:32:53 | rasher | oh |
| 22:33:21 | preglow | doesn't take too long here |
| 22:33:25 | preglow | but then again, this machine is pretty leet |
| 22:34:44 | amiconn | It doesn't mean that my machine is slow; it's the same reason why compiling rockbox takes some 3 minutes in cygwin, but only 1 minute *on the very same machine*, *even in a virtual machine* under Linux |
| 22:34:58 | preglow | haha |
| 22:35:01 | amiconn | cygwin is dead slow when it comes to file operations |
| 22:35:02 | rasher | oh, you're compiling in cygwin :) |
| 22:35:04 | preglow | that is kind of strange |
| 22:35:13 | rasher | also when it comes to launching programs |
| 22:35:29 | amiconn | Probably slowest is running shell scripts |
| 22:36:07 | amiconn | There is a significant delay before displaying the language choices in rockbox' /tools/configure |
| 22:36:23 | rasher | hah |
| 22:36:46 | preglow | yes, configuring under cygwin is a nightmare |
| 22:36:52 | preglow | oh, how i dislike cygwin |
| 22:36:58 | preglow | the real thing is so much nicer |
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| 22:37:20 | rasher | the only thing I'd use cygwin for is xorg |
| 22:37:34 | rasher | it's a fairly decent x server for windows |
| 22:39:06 | preglow | yeah, that's what i use cygwin for as well |
| 22:39:25 | * | t0mas is away: zzZzzZzzzzz |
| 22:42:35 | * | HCl wonders how much speedup gcc 4 would give on iriver.. |
| 22:42:50 | rasher | x.cygwin.com seems fairly dated |
| 22:42:56 | rasher | not to mention a year old |
| 22:43:10 | * | HCl shivers at the badness of rocky 2 which is on tv.. |
| 22:43:22 | rasher | Haha, I'm watching Under Siege! |
| 22:43:31 | HCl | it just finished. |
| 22:43:42 | HCl | i don't understand how anyone can praise boxing as a sport |
| 22:43:50 | rasher | Steven Seagal is crazy-bad |
| 22:45:11 | preglow | erika eleniak is the best thing about that movie, i'm afraid |
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| 22:46:57 | msychk | anyone want to answer a quick question for me? |
| 22:47:02 | HCl | sur |
| 22:47:02 | HCl | e |
| 22:47:03 | msychk | please :) |
| 22:47:06 | HCl | dunno if i can answer though |
| 22:47:33 | msychk | i just got 2.4 for the recorder and was wondering why rockbox suggests "shutting down" rather than holding the off button |
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| 22:48:35 | msychk | i mean, if i hurt the recorder, wouldnt the archos firmware and/or hardware not let you power down immediately and force you to "shut down"? |
| 22:49:35 | Bagder | the safe shutdown is just that... safe |
| 22:49:42 | Bagder | you don't have to |
| 22:50:47 | Shagnar | Bagder where can i get that devkit from? |
| 22:50:48 | msychk | i know that i dont have to and i do sometimes forget and hold the power button down, but.... |
| 22:51:31 | Bagder | Shagnar: try asking google, I don't remember |
| 22:51:32 | msychk | what exactly makes it "safe"? this implies that the other way is "not safe" and somehow hurts the recorder. is that so? |
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| 22:52:16 | Bagder | msychk: it makes it safe because it saves data and stops the disk |
| 22:52:29 | rasher | preglow: haha, she's credited as "Pretty Young Girl" in ET :) |
| 22:53:16 | amiconn | rasher: building & installing binutils took ~20 minutes |
| 22:53:30 | rasher | that's not bad |
| 22:53:38 | amiconn | ..started building gcc4 now... |
| 22:53:41 | msychk | ok, i figured that was all it was for....wish there was a more technical answer out there but i guess that will do |
| 22:53:41 | rasher | keeping cygwin in mind |
| 22:54:17 | Bagder | msychk: search the mailing list archives and you shall find |
| 22:55:51 | msychk | will do - gotta go for now but ill be back to find the answer...thanks! |
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| 23:00:52 | * | preglow decides he has earned a beer |
| 23:01:16 | HCl | sake! |
| 23:01:27 | preglow | scottish ale this time |
| 23:01:28 | HCl | come to the darksideeeee |
| 23:01:31 | HCl | :( |
| 23:01:33 | HCl | we have cookies! |
| 23:01:38 | preglow | why, i like sake |
| 23:01:44 | preglow | but it doesn't beat beer |
| 23:01:49 | HCl | yush it does :x |
| 23:01:51 | preglow | nothing on this planet beats beer |
| 23:02:01 | * | HCl doesn't like most beer. |
| 23:02:02 | preglow | nothing liquid, at least |
| 23:02:23 | * | preglow knows of just one beer among the countless ones he has tasted that he didn't like |
| 23:02:26 | preglow | heh |
| 23:02:36 | preglow | and that was the sour one i had about two weeks ago |
| 23:02:36 | HCl | was it named heineken? :P |
| 23:02:40 | preglow | haha |
| 23:02:44 | preglow | heineken doesn't taste anything |
| 23:02:55 | HCl | heineken = catpee :P |
| 23:02:56 | Shagnar | is bluechip still in the rockbox team? |
| 23:03:21 | preglow | frozen gnat's urine |
| 23:03:24 | * | HCl goes to search for his cat |
| 23:03:29 | Bagder | there is no set team |
| 23:03:33 | Bagder | we are all in the team |
| 23:04:00 | Shagnar | yeah :] |
| 23:04:37 | Shagnar | well, didn't find anything else as some irc logs, but, I hope it 'll be implemented soon :] |
| 23:04:52 | Bagder | what would be implemented? |
| 23:05:19 | Shagnar | the grayscale |
| 23:05:55 | Bagder | ah, yes that would be nice |
| 23:07:36 | HCl | bluechip never worked on grayscale |
| 23:07:38 | HCl | markun did |
| 23:09:24 | HCl | he says he's not very interested in grayscale and rather works on unicode support |
| 23:09:33 | HCl | so its up for grabs |
| 23:09:42 | HCl | probably much like rockboy |
| 23:12:40 | Shagnar | if i could programm that, i would do so... but i only know (visual)basic and TCL :-( |
| 23:14:10 | HCl | :X |
| 23:14:16 | HCl | time to learn C! :p |
| 23:14:21 | HCl | i can give you some links :P |
| 23:14:41 | HCl | gda.utp.edu.co/pub/libros_programacion/The_C_Programming_Language_by_K\&R/ |
| 23:14:43 | HCl | :P |
| 23:15:02 | Shagnar | Not Found |
| 23:15:02 | Shagnar | The requested URL /pub/libros_programacion/The_C_Programming_Language_by_K\&R/ was not found on this server. |
| 23:15:03 | HCl | hmmm |
| 23:15:04 | rasher | is that really such a good book to learn c from? |
| 23:15:04 | Shagnar | :P |
| 23:15:06 | HCl | yea |
| 23:15:09 | HCl | its the extra slash |
| 23:15:10 | HCl | delete it |
| 23:15:17 | HCl | http://gda.utp.edu.co/pub/libros_programacion/The_C_Programming_Language_by_K&R/ |
| 23:15:33 | HCl | rasher: its said to be "the" book |
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| 23:17:57 | tuvo | hey shagnar, was looking at the log, here is the rockbox devkit: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm |
| 23:19:14 | Shagnar | yeah thx a lot |
| 23:19:14 | HCl | :) |
| 23:19:35 | tuvo | goodnight |
| 23:19:37 | Shagnar | i'll try to learn it a bit, perhaps i can work with you guys one day :] |
| 23:19:42 | | Part tuvo |
| 23:19:44 | Shagnar | good night! |
| 23:19:46 | Shagnar | ... to late |
| 23:19:47 | HCl | :p |
| 23:19:56 | HCl | read the book,its supposed to be good |
| 23:21:07 | Shagnar | :) |
| 23:23:02 | * | HCl goes to sleep |
| 23:23:11 | * | Shagnar too |
| 23:23:21 | Shagnar | :p |
| 23:23:34 | Shagnar | well, good night to everybody. keep on Rock(box)ing! |
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| 23:31:00 | amiconn | Bleh, gcc4 build errored out :-( |
| 23:31:09 | amiconn | Assembler messages: |
| 23:31:10 | amiconn | Error: Invalid argument to −−isa option: sh2a |
| 23:33:12 | preglow | what kind of platform is sh? |
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| 23:33:25 | amiconn | preglow: ? |
| 23:33:47 | preglow | like, for gcc |
| 23:33:49 | preglow | primary, secondary |
| 23:34:02 | preglow | they have only verified it works properly on primary and secondary platforms, mainly |
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| 23:37:15 | amiconn | preglow: Hmm, I can't seem to find this info |
| 23:38:12 | preglow | nor can i |
| 23:38:43 | preglow | mudflap looks kind of cool |
| 23:39:14 | preglow | -ftree-vectorize! |
| 23:40:49 | preglow | will be fun to see how well gcc does at using sse |
| 23:44:03 | * | t0mas is going to sleep.. |
| 23:44:09 | t0mas | have to go to school tomorrow :( |
| 23:44:21 | t0mas | damn... school after two days of work sucks |
| 23:45:20 | t0mas | practically finished... but I still have to hang arount there... being borded with some stupid educational videos :( |
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| 23:49:59 | amiconn | preglow: If I understand some googled-up hints correctly, I may need cvs binutils |
| 23:50:25 | amiconn | bah, another binutils compile run :( |
| 23:51:22 | preglow | what binutils did you use now? |
| 23:51:25 | preglow | is 2.16 out yet? |
| 23:51:43 | amiconn | I used 2.15, and there is no 2.16 on the gnu ftp |
| 23:53:16 | preglow | they're about to branch 2.16 off any day now, i think |
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