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#rockbox log for 2005-05-15

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01:37:10amiconnSeems I found a nice solution :)
01:39:39amiconnIs there a way to force a certain .o to be always rebuilt by 'make'?
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01:41:03CoCoLUSdelete it before rebuilding? :)
01:42:05amiconnNo, I mean how to define this in the Makefile
01:44:14CoCoLUSi don't know if a makefile can delete a specific file
01:44:18CoCoLUSbut if thats possible
01:44:34CoCoLUSit would work for you wouldn't it?
01:45:05amiconnHmm, I think this would work, but imho it would be an ugly solution
01:45:36amiconnI think I'd need a special dependency or such
01:46:15CoCoLUSquick a dirty vs. slow a pretty :)
01:48:16lodesiyou can't build it from the 'all' target?
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13:06:49rasherThat was quick.
13:06:57rasherAh, there you are.
13:06:58t0masoops
13:07:20*rasher prods Bagder
13:08:52MoosCamarohi
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13:16:58bobTHChi
13:17:36MoosCamarohi bobTHC, "ca va"?
13:18:49bobTHCyeah!
13:19:00*t0mas is astonished... "ca va" = "How are you?" and i remembered it :P
13:19:20bobTHC:)
13:19:25t0mas"ca va bien" is the answere like "ok with me" or something?
13:19:38bobTHCexactly
13:19:43t0mas:D
13:19:50MoosCamaroyeah
13:20:11MoosCamarogood memory t0Mas ;)
13:20:23t0masghehe
13:21:56bobTHCi'm "happy",i have a brandnew home connection !
13:22:02t0masadsl?
13:22:08bobTHCADSL2+
13:22:11bobTHCyep
13:22:14t0mas"happy" -> "gay" right?
13:22:20bobTHClol
13:22:32MoosCamarocongratulations
13:22:46t0mas(I have a french test this week...)
13:23:01t0mashave to write a letter... but I'm really bad at french
13:23:20MoosCamarohihi, if we can help you... :)
13:23:35bobTHCi'm in bw test and that seems to be good 1450kosec down/ 64ko up
13:24:08bobTHCexcept when i watch TV ;)
13:24:28t0masah, you have digital tv with it?
13:24:39bobTHCTV over ADSL
13:24:53MoosCamarobob: what's company?
13:24:55t0masyeah, we have something like that here...
13:24:57bobTHCand phone too
13:24:58t0masversatel
13:25:04t0masis the company here
13:25:16t0mastv, radio, telephone and internet over ADSL2
13:25:46bobTHCtriple play by FREE
13:26:07MoosCamaroyea this is market here in france
13:26:07t0mas40 euro's / month here
13:26:13t0mashow much do you pay bobTHC?
13:26:17bobTHC30€
13:26:20t0masdamn...
13:26:25t0mas20 mbit down 1 mbit up
13:26:31MoosCamaroca va :)
13:27:05bobTHCfor triple play with unlimited free ground call
13:27:12MoosCamarobobTHC: what company you use?
13:27:17bobTHCFREE
13:27:27MoosCamarook
13:28:35MoosCamarohave you got a long time contrat? 12 months...
13:28:48*t0mas has that now...
13:28:54t0masthat's why I don't have adsl2 yet :)
13:29:21MoosCamaro;)
13:29:22bobTHC12 months yea
13:29:55MoosCamarofreebox?
13:30:01bobTHCyea
13:30:17bobTHC@270meter from DSLAM
13:30:19bobTHC;)
13:30:23bobTHChehe
13:30:30MoosCamarocongratulations, it's a best proposition now in France
13:31:41bobTHCexept citéfibre ;)
13:31:51bobTHCs/exept/except
13:32:01MoosCamaro:)
13:32:07t0masfiber...
13:32:24t0masIn holland we have it only in a few cities...
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13:32:58bobTHCFTTH is only in 1 city here
13:34:08MoosCamaroare you sure?
13:35:11bobTHCin Pau it's complete and soon in 1 district of paris
13:35:37MoosCamarooui c'est ce qui me semblait
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13:52:44HClmmm
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13:52:59*HCl prods windows' time estimate.
13:53:04t0masntp?
13:53:07HClits been stuck on 8 minutes for at least 5 minutes.
13:53:10t0masoh that one
13:53:12HClno, time estimate.
13:53:17t0mascopying?
13:53:20HClmhm
13:53:39HClmy xbox game has a corruption.. trying to fix it with a second downloaded version i got..
13:53:52HClits annoying cause it disables me from playing part of the game..
13:58:15*HCl just notices his xbox light turned yellow cause ftp is being used..
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14:00:29HCland now it turned green O.o. it shouldn't do that >.>;
14:01:01ashridahit's calling home
14:02:24HCl :p
14:02:29HClnah, i had the setting wrong.
14:02:48HCli've taught it to not listen to microsoft long ago ;p
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15:08:02HClbah, it didn't help :/
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20:19:38bobTHC:)
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20:22:15muesli-silentbob understands me ;)
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21:30:27rashero/~ let's do the timewarp again o/~
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22:03:27 Nick Tang_ is now known as Tangleding (~chatzilla@ARennes-252-1-63-3.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr)
22:03:29TangledingHello:)
22:10:26TangledingNo one... :(
22:11:27t0mas?
22:11:29t0mashi
22:13:30TangledingHi T0mas
22:13:37Tangledingi thought i was lonely
22:13:39Tangleding;)
22:13:44TangledingHow are you?
22:13:50t0mashaha
22:13:51t0masI'm ok
22:14:12Tangledingcool
22:14:40Tangleding(i've changed my nickname from Tang to Tangledig in afct)
22:14:48Tangleding;)
22:15:10TangledingSeen nice progress by Linus on bootloader
22:15:13Tangledingcool news
22:15:15Tangleding:)
22:15:15t0mas?
22:15:19t0masdid I mis something?
22:15:29Tangledingi don't think so
22:15:36Tangledingit's not very recent
22:15:40Tangleding(two days)
22:15:45t0masthen I missed it
22:15:50*t0mas checks the website
22:15:51Tangledingabout fw 1.65 bug
22:15:55Tangledingyou know
22:16:04Tangleding(skipping ogg playback)
22:16:05Tangleding:)
22:16:12Tangledingnow solved thanks to Linus
22:16:14t0masoh wait
22:16:16t0mas"Fixed the dreaded 1.65 bootloader incompatibility
22:16:16t0mas"
22:16:17t0masthat one
22:16:23Tangledingyes indeed
22:16:24rasherand the Windows util was released
22:16:26Tangleding:)
22:16:27t0masindeed
22:16:29Tangledingindeed
22:16:31t0masI knew that windows tool
22:16:31Tangledinghi Rasher
22:16:35rasherhi
22:16:41Tangledingit's cool things too
22:16:49Tangledingvery nice
22:17:15Tangledingi'm awaiting for HCl database plugin finalisation
22:19:40Tangledingat phone
22:23:05HClwah?
22:23:24HCland i'm waiting for mp3 playback :p
22:28:12*HCl plucks more ticks out of his cat
22:28:19rasherhow about searchendine databox merge?
22:28:37HCli'd need a plugin_exec for that
22:28:49HClim still wanting to be able to call the searchengine seperately, without an interface
22:29:04rasherMake it both a viewer and a plugin
22:29:06HClto be able to provide shortcuts to searches from an easy access menu
22:29:21Tangledingask to linus lol (joke)
22:29:31HClbut first, i'm watching indiana jones
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22:30:34Psycho_Crkhi !
22:31:02HClhello
22:32:46Psycho_CrkI am a french user of rockbox and want to know if rombox improve really the perf of my Archos ?
22:32:58Psycho_Crksoory for english :(
22:33:05HClno idea, sorry.
22:33:47t0masPsycho_Crk: as far as I know it only speeds up the booting...
22:33:48Psycho_Crkand
22:33:53Psycho_Crkok
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22:50:54Tangleding:)
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23:05:18rasherWell I think we can assume that the iriver lcd-remote "ticking" is iriver doing something weird
23:05:40rasherI'm currently having the rockbox logo scrolling back and forth on my remote, and get no ticking
23:06:40Tangledinginteresting rasher
23:06:42amiconnTicking remote??
23:07:05Tangledingbut you hear it with the original firmware Rasher?
23:07:25rasheramiconn: There's some "thing" that makes the remote emit little ticks
23:07:35amiconnWith rockbox?
23:07:39rasherTangleding: yes, I hear it just by having the iriver turned on
23:07:43rasherNo, with iRiver firmware
23:07:43Tangledingokay
23:07:49Tangledingvery cool news
23:07:55Tangledingcan i relay it?
23:08:02Tangledingoh you rather i wait a litle?
23:08:06amiconnrasher: Strange... that reminds me of an issue with the archos firmware on recorder v1...
23:08:15rasherThe theory was that LCD-updates made it tick, but at least that's not the whole story
23:08:20amiconn...which is also cured by rockbox
23:08:42TangledingEh eh Rockbox will help us to make good coffee maybe?
23:08:44Tangleding:D
23:08:44rasherTangleding: I'm writing something on Misticriver, I'll post a link so you can relay what I say there
23:08:54Tangledingokay i'm waiting
23:09:05Tangleding(was about relaying on my french board: of course
23:09:20Tangledingi guessed you saw the story at MR)
23:09:23Tangleding:)
23:09:24rasheramiconn: I'm not being too optimistic, because couldn't it in theory be something that we're just not doing yet?
23:09:40rasherI guess yuou're not really the right person to ask :)
23:10:09Tangledingeh eh
23:10:21Tangledingi do own a H120 unlike amiconn
23:10:31Tangledingbut i'm not the good person too
23:10:32Tangleding:D
23:10:35Tangledinglol
23:10:40amiconnNo... but I'll get my H-140 soon :))
23:11:28TangledingCool news
23:11:35Tangledingseems the iRiverport will make more and more progress in near future
23:11:35Tangleding:)
23:11:36rasherTangleding: http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?p=225490&posted=1#post225490
23:11:41rasherTangleding: which story were you talking about on MR?
23:12:00rasherI only really follow the two Rockbox-on-h100 threads in the forums
23:12:35Tangledingi'm Tang
23:12:59rasherYes, figured as much :)
23:13:04Tangledingthe story that relate the ticking noise to the remote LCD scrolling
23:13:09Tangledingthat's it
23:13:11Tangleding:)
23:13:18rasherah, didn't see that.. where is it?
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23:14:16Tangledingit's the post you quoted rasher
23:14:33rasherHaha
23:14:34Tangledingi think i'm misunderrstood?
23:14:36rasherdidn't notice that was you
23:14:40Tangledinglol
23:14:41MoosCamarohi guys
23:14:47MoosCamarohi crazy Tang
23:14:47rasherno sorry, I just didn't notice who I was replying to :)
23:14:50Tangledingtaht's why i said i was Tang
23:14:54Tangledinghi Moos
23:15:05TangledingHi Moos
23:15:06rasherAh yes, I understand now
23:15:23Tangledingjust changed my nick cause i was bored to be called Tang_ (with underscore)
23:15:29Tangledingdue to another Tang on the IRC channel
23:16:37rashernow if I was awake enough to do this math correctly
23:17:06rasherI would make the remote show the logo at the same place as the main display
23:17:16rasherwhich should be easy, really
23:17:25rasherbut my head's not cooperating
23:17:40MoosCamaro:)
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23:40:43Bagder"View next Incoming folder "IN.suspekt" (2453 recent)?"
23:40:53Bagderhow I like spam attacks
23:41:21rasherthat's a lot
23:41:34Bagderin only a few hours too
23:41:39t0masBagder: ctrl + a -> del
23:41:47Bagdertoday's the worst day ever for me I think
23:41:49t0masbagawk: changed nick again? :P
23:41:49*rasher draws scale models of the iriver lcds to set his head straight
23:42:14Bagder15297 mails received
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23:42:16Bagdertoday
23:42:24t0masghehe
23:42:24t0mastnx
23:42:35t0masBagder: that's a lot...
23:42:37_bagawk:)
23:42:44Tangledingis this about greyscale patch?
23:43:05*t0mas got just 28 messages today...
23:43:08t0masand no spam :D
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23:43:18BagderI get ~700 an average day
23:43:24rasherTangleding: no, updating the logo plugin to include remote as well
23:43:42Tangledingah the logo is in the remote no?
23:43:44t0masBagder: mailinglists are sorted out of my inbox...
23:43:45Tangledingoh maybe
23:43:50Tangledingthe plugin logo?
23:43:55BagderI have 14 inboxes
23:43:57t0masand I thought reading 28 messages a day was a lot... :X
23:43:59t0masLOL
23:44:08t0masI get everything in 1...
23:44:42Tangledingjust 4 spamm
23:44:52Tangledingll in the spammm box thanks to yahoo filter
23:44:54Tangleding:)
23:45:30t0masBagder: lot of fanmail? ;)
23:45:52BagderI'm on numerous lists so I expect to get lots of mails
23:46:00Bagderbut today I'
23:46:06Bagderm under some kind of "attack"
23:46:26t0masah ok, I sort all mailinglists out...
23:46:34BagderI do too
23:46:39Bagdermy count was on the total
23:46:42t0masah ok
23:47:39*amiconn gets an average of ~1 spam mail/ day
23:47:45amiconnThat's without any filtering
23:47:51BagderI normally get 300 spam a day
23:47:58t0masdamn...
23:48:05t0masyou both put your address on website?
23:48:09t0mas*your website
23:48:20Bagderit's all over
23:48:25amiconnMy address is on my site, yes
23:48:33t0masmine isn't...
23:48:48amiconn..and I have it much longer than my email address at work
23:49:04amiconnI get more spam mails at work than I get at home
23:49:36t0mashm.. I use at hotmail address for registering... or a tomas+whatever@mydomain.nl address
23:49:53t0masand on my website I have a question to answere before you get the address...
23:49:54t0mashttp://tomas.salfischberger.nl/contact.php
23:50:26*amiconn got some more bug reports today
23:50:38amiconnGuess from whom...
23:50:49rasherhaha
23:51:07amiconnBagder: Is there a knowledgeable person for the playlist code?
23:51:09t0masyour sister?
23:51:19amiconnt0mas: 100 points...
23:51:29t0masdamn... she almost is a bug herself? :P
23:51:35Bagderamiconn: hardeep extended it to feature the dynamic stuff
23:51:58amiconnMrf
23:52:12rasherhrm, think I'm experiencing precision loss now
23:52:21rasherdividing ints is not a good idea :X
23:52:46amiconnBagder: There seems to be a problem with shuffle and adding dirs to an existing playlist
23:53:00amiconnThe added dirs doesn't get shuffled
23:53:04amiconn*dire
23:53:06amiconn*dir
23:53:08Bagderaha
23:53:49amiconnThen there's another problem with the 'disk full' handling in the vbrfix plugin
23:53:59amiconnCurrently looking at this
23:54:33amiconnObviously 'disk full' is more likely on a flash player than on a hd based player
23:54:38rasher\o/ I have the logo plugin using the iRiver remote!
23:54:50 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC")
23:55:01Tangledingnot in the daily build i guess
23:56:05amiconnBagder: Another mysterious bug is in the 'disk full' handling of the recording code
23:56:06Tangleding:D
23:57:17amiconnThe recording code does detect 'disk full' condition and stops, but before doing that, it writes the last minute of the recorded data _over_ the beginning of the file
23:57:39Tangledingi go bye all
23:57:42Tangleding:)
23:57:46Tangledingand best things
23:57:52Bagderamiconn: ouch
23:57:52amiconnbye Tangleding
23:58:21Tangleding(by the way good news for me i suceeded at the first part of my exam)
23:58:23Tangledingbye
23:58:25Tangleding:)
23:58:49amiconnBagder: I can't test that easily... would need to almost fill my recorder's hard disk with junk before being able to do that
23:58:53amiconn~55 GB...
23:58:57 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon")

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