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00:02:56 | amiconn | rasher: What do you think - should I commit the new snow.c? |
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00:12:40 | muesli_ | re |
00:12:49 | muesli_ | snow.c ? |
00:13:00 | muesli_ | sounds funny ;) |
00:19:05 | preglow | amiconn: why not? |
00:19:06 | I-R-Addict | i definitly do NOT wanna *see* anymore snow |
00:19:10 | I-R-Addict | in any language |
00:19:13 | * | I-R-Addict is in canada |
00:20:58 | preglow | why, i miss the stuff already :P |
00:21:22 | I-R-Addict | mostly because wherei live we have 2 seasons |
00:21:31 | I-R-Addict | what passes as summer, and LOTS of winter |
00:21:36 | preglow | haha |
00:21:44 | I-R-Addict | no fall, no spring |
00:21:45 | preglow | mostly the status here as well, yes |
00:21:52 | I-R-Addict | just instant change, summer -> winter in a week |
00:22:03 | Bagder | we use this little saying here: |
00:22:04 | preglow | where in canada do you live? |
00:22:09 | I-R-Addict | edmonton |
00:22:15 | Bagder | "I love the swedish summer. It's the best day of the year" |
00:22:20 | I-R-Addict | lol |
00:22:27 | Bagder | :-) |
00:22:28 | preglow | haha |
00:22:38 | preglow | certainly doesn't feel like there'll be much summer here |
00:22:44 | preglow | it snowed five days ago |
00:22:58 | preglow | for fifteen minutes, but still, it's friggin' may! |
00:23:05 | I-R-Addict | ack, ok.. your worse off than us currently lol |
00:23:16 | preglow | yes, pretty far north in norway |
00:23:24 | I-R-Addict | anyway, i have a bus to catch |
00:23:27 | preglow | do so |
00:23:30 | I-R-Addict | laterz u crazy geek people :P |
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00:25:48 | tucoz | preglow, where in norway are you? I'm in bergen, and as you might know, there is only one season here. FALL. |
00:26:08 | preglow | hahah |
00:26:10 | preglow | trondheim here |
00:26:11 | preglow | not much better |
00:26:19 | preglow | it pretty much rains constantly |
00:26:28 | preglow | i'm firmly convinced bergen's better |
00:26:48 | tucoz | compared to bergen, the rain in trondheim would be considered nothing |
00:26:53 | Bagder | hehe |
00:27:03 | preglow | well, then bergen might as well not exist for me |
00:27:05 | Bagder | weatherfight! |
00:27:09 | preglow | i friggin' hate rain |
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00:27:13 | tucoz | as it rains 2200mm a year |
00:27:46 | tucoz | which is twice as much as the next city in norway. Don't remeber which though. |
00:28:04 | preglow | trondheim's trying to overtake you, that's for sure |
00:28:07 | preglow | good riddance, i'm moving |
00:28:13 | tucoz | sound nice |
00:28:49 | tucoz | I do not think I will stay here either. Move back to sweden when school finishes perhaps |
00:29:06 | tucoz | Allthogh, it's a nice city |
00:29:39 | preglow | sure, it's decent, but i can't stand rainy places for long :P |
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00:29:53 | tucoz | hehe |
00:31:03 | tucoz | good night. gotta go |
00:31:08 | preglow | gnite |
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00:31:55 | Bagder | sleep is good |
00:32:01 | preglow | so i've heard |
00:33:19 | amiconn | New snow.rock crashes in iriver win32 sim |
00:33:21 | amiconn | :( |
00:33:43 | preglow | :-( |
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00:37:38 | preglow | what's the way to update a language, again? just uplang the file and then translate what needs translating? |
00:39:22 | HCl | night |
00:45:06 | amiconn | preglow: yup |
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01:46:40 | preglow | WEL |
01:46:43 | preglow | later, all |
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02:16:26 | amiconn | Some plugins crash both in the x11 and the win32 simulator. They didn't do that last time I tried :( |
02:16:51 | amiconn | I can't see a pattern |
02:23:33 | amiconn | This happens under cygwin only, not under linux |
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08:03:15 | Deathfirst | I was wondering how do you get the plugins to work |
08:04:18 | Deathfirst | is anyone here |
08:05:10 | ashridah | which plugins in particular? most of the standalone ones are available via the menu->browse plugins |
08:05:37 | ashridah | some of the file-oriented ones require holding some button or another (depending on whether you're using an iriver or an archos unit) |
08:05:58 | Deathfirst | where do i download them |
08:06:47 | Deathfirst | i am using the iRiver |
08:07:26 | ashridah | depends what you installed. the nightly builds include the plugins already, at least, everything that's in the cvs repository |
08:09:35 | Deathfirst | I used the daily build |
08:10:26 | ashridah | okay then, if you installed it properly and it's booting, just press the a-b button once, and it'll show the menu. standalone plugins are visible in the 'browse plugins' menu |
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08:12:41 | textchimp | can anyone tell me if i can compile rockbox on gcc 3.4.1 ? the website mentions 3.3.4, but only warns against using gcc 4 |
08:13:33 | Deathfirst | I press a-b and go down to 'Browse Plugins' and i get a little lightning thing up in the top right corner |
08:13:41 | ashridah | i'm efectively using gcc 3.4.2 (give or take a bit, since it's CVS) |
08:14:30 | ashridah | Deathfirst: it'll take a tiny bit of time to load them, but after that, you should get a list of plugins. i'd be surprised if the daily builds don't include any |
08:15:50 | ashridah | if the 'lightening bolt' (aka, accessing the disk/memory card) icon stays for more than a few seconds, something's decidedly odd. |
08:15:52 | textchimp | ashridah: i think i'm confused....there are 2 gcc versions involved, right? the version you download and build to compile for the iriver target, and the native version on your system that you use to compile that iriver target version |
08:16:57 | amiconn | textchimp: The gcc 3.3.x recommendation is for archos, as it produces smaller code. Gcc 3.4.x is recommended for iriver |
08:17:29 | ashridah | yes, you need a standard compiler. then you build gcc with that compiler. (which will build itself targetting your development platform, then rebuild itself targetting the chosen platform (in this case, m68k) |
08:17:48 | Deathfirst | i am going to have to assume that it is not there because nothing happens |
08:17:56 | ashridah | but yeah, gcc 3.4's latest cvs is a good idea, since earlier versions don't support coldfire properly |
08:18:15 | Deathfirst | how would I go about bulding my own |
08:18:16 | textchimp | damnm, okay |
08:18:22 | textchimp | so how do i get that>? |
08:18:58 | ashridah | Deathfirst: okay then. plug the iriver into a computer, and then into /.rockbox/rocks/ |
08:18:59 | textchimp | if i have gcc 3.4.1 natively on my linux system, do i still need to download another version to compile for the coldfire target? |
08:19:38 | Deathfirst | should I create the folder |
08:19:43 | ashridah | textchimp: yes, because the cpu in the coldfire microprocessors use a different instruction set from i386, which means you need a cross compiler (ie, compile on i386, target m68k) |
08:19:59 | ashridah | Deathfirst: what 'rocks' or '.rockbox' |
08:20:18 | amiconn | ashridah: No need for a cvs gcc (and cvs currently gives you gcc 4.1.0 experimental - which will not work!) |
08:20:18 | ashridah | amiconn: the daily builds should include all plugins, shouldn't it? |
08:20:37 | textchimp | okay |
08:20:41 | Deathfirst | both |
08:20:45 | ashridah | amiconn: ah, true. so 3.4.2 stable is good enough then? |
08:20:48 | textchimp | so should i just download gcc-3.4.1.tar.gz ? |
08:20:58 | amiconn | You are perhaps confusing something. It was cvs binutils, but this requirement has gone since the release of binutils 2.16 |
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08:21:39 | ashridah | Deathfirst: sounds like you haven't extracted the daily build properly then. it should have included rockbox.iriver and a directory called ".rockbox", afaik. |
08:22:00 | ashridah | amiconn: ah yes. i haven't been keeping up. once my environment started working, i haven't touched it ;) |
08:22:09 | textchimp | there's up to 3.4.4 on the gnu site...which one is the best to use? |
08:22:32 | amiconn | textchimp: Personally I would build the latest one of the series, which is 3.4.4 currently |
08:22:42 | ashridah | textchimp: 3.4.4 |
08:22:49 | textchimp | i shall try it, thanks for the tips |
08:23:37 | Deathfirst | that could be the problem I just kept trying to copy over the rockbox.iriver and not the .folder |
08:23:39 | amiconn | The version of your native compiler used for building the cross compiler shouldn't really matter. |
08:23:42 | Deathfirst | tring now |
08:23:47 | Deathfirst | trying |
08:24:00 | ashridah | yeah, the rest include the plugins, settings for bits, language files, etc. |
08:24:05 | ashridah | fonts too |
08:24:09 | ashridah | i'm surprised rockbox worked at all without fonts |
08:24:31 | amiconn | Of course it does... as it has too |
08:24:38 | amiconn | The system default font is builtin |
08:24:49 | amiconn | *has to |
08:24:51 | ashridah | ah |
08:25:17 | ashridah | suppose that would stand to reason |
08:25:45 | amiconn | How else are you going to display a message that there is a disk error? Or that the .rockbox folder/ fonts are missing? |
08:25:53 | textchimp | the site says that for coldfire " you only need gcc-core-3.4.X.tar.bz" |
08:26:03 | textchimp | is that still true? |
08:27:02 | amiconn | The article is a bit ambiguous |
08:27:18 | amiconn | gcc-core is sufficient for all platforms |
08:27:49 | textchimp | okay |
08:28:24 | amiconn | ashridah: Cvs gcc is a requirement for calmrisc (gmini) |
08:28:38 | Deathfirst | thank you very much for your help |
08:31:24 | Deathfirst | i am going to play aroung with this for a bit, if I have any questions I will ask. |
08:31:56 | Deathfirst | Again I thank you for helping solve my stupidy problem on not reading |
08:32:08 | Deathfirst | the install all of the way |
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09:37:33 | [IDC]Dragon3 | many ba*er nicks here... |
09:50:59 | amiconn | hi |
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09:52:59 | textchimp | hey |
09:53:30 | textchimp | the build instructions on the site say for coldfire that "he build and install procedure for m68k gcc and binutils is done exactly as described below. It is not cpu-specific." |
09:53:46 | textchimp | so i just use −−target=sh-elf ?? |
09:55:20 | ashridah | that part is '−−target=m68k' |
09:55:55 | textchimp | yeah |
09:56:00 | textchimp | later on it says "The iRiver iHp-xxx models have a Coldfire CPU, so the target name is m68k-elf." |
09:56:06 | textchimp | so which is it? |
09:56:28 | amiconn | The procedure is the same... the parameters are of course a bit different |
09:56:31 | ashridah | sorry, yes, m68k-elf |
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10:00:03 | textchimp | okay thanks |
10:07:58 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon3: If pitching up is in fact overclocking the mas, do you think it's a good idea to allow up to 200%? |
10:08:49 | [IDC]Dragon3 | perhaps not |
10:08:59 | [IDC]Dragon3 | did you check the datasheet? |
10:09:14 | amiconn | nope |
10:13:05 | amiconn | It seems we could also do pitch on the mas3507 |
10:13:19 | amiconn | (although a much more limited range) |
10:13:26 | [IDC]Dragon3 | we currently don't? |
10:14:13 | amiconn | no |
10:18:57 | amiconn | As mentioned, the range would be rather limited, and also differs between 32/ 48 kHz and 44.1 kHz sample frequency |
10:20:30 | [IDC]Dragon3 | what's the least common range? |
10:21:03 | [IDC]Dragon3 | ("true" pitching needs only a small range) |
10:21:19 | [IDC]Dragon3 | like record players, maybe +/- 10% |
10:21:41 | amiconn | 32/48 kHz: -10.71 % / + 0.06 % 44.1 kHz: -2.82 % / + 8.91 % |
10:22:07 | [IDC]Dragon3 | little common... |
10:22:12 | amiconn | You see, it's practically impossible to pitch up 32 or 48 kHz files |
10:22:42 | amiconn | ...unless we exceed the official limits for plloffset |
10:22:47 | [IDC]Dragon3 | or down 44.1 kHz |
10:23:36 | amiconn | The official limits are +/- 0.74, but the possible value range is -1 < plloffset < +1 |
10:24:01 | amiconn | Maybe the pll does not lock when exceeding the limits |
10:27:18 | amiconn | The separate dac might be another problem |
10:27:47 | [IDC]Dragon3 | it's clock should come from the MAS |
10:28:05 | [IDC]Dragon3 | perhaps Linus has tried already |
10:28:56 | amiconn | The dac locks to the i2s input, however, specs say the locking range is +/- 200 ppm |
10:29:09 | [IDC]Dragon3 | oops |
10:30:46 | amiconn | Hmm. The dac also offers a way to set a specific range, rather than autodetect the default frequencies |
10:31:19 | amiconn | It should be possible to use any sample frequency in the range 8...50 kHz |
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10:50:08 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon3: It seems you are right about the overclocking: "The crystal clock |
10:50:08 | amiconn | acts as a reference for the embedded synthesizer that |
10:50:08 | amiconn | generates the internal clock |
10:50:59 | [IDC]Dragon3 | I wish we had such for the SH ;-) |
10:51:54 | amiconn | Iiuc the mas dsp core runs at 24.576 MHz for 48/32 kHz and 22.5792 MHz for 44.1 kHz |
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11:07:10 | textchimp | is it okay to download the latest daily source tarball from the site for iriver development? |
11:08:56 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon3: Pitching the mas3507 does indeed work - without worrying about the dac |
11:09:18 | amiconn | I did an experimental build that pitches up 44.1/22.05/11.025 kHz files by 5% |
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11:17:46 | Chamois | hi |
11:18:05 | Chamois | anyone has flashed his h1xx with the new bootloader ? |
11:20:38 | ashridah | how new? |
11:21:35 | Chamois | yes |
11:21:49 | Chamois | hte new version that linus made today |
11:21:59 | Chamois | watch the wiki |
11:22:11 | Chamois | i want to verify md5sum |
11:22:34 | Chamois | oh |
11:22:34 | textchimp | ashridah: is this the source i need for the ihp120? http://www.rockbox.org/daily/source/rockbox-daily-20050520.tar.gz |
11:23:11 | Chamois | jonas made an update of his fwpatcher |
11:23:16 | Chamois | so i don't need the md5sum |
11:23:20 | Chamois | no problem |
11:23:32 | ashridah | textchimp: i'm not sure, i use cvs to get it myself. |
11:23:46 | textchimp | so the latest cvs source is okay for the ihp? |
11:24:00 | Chamois | yes |
11:24:20 | Chamois | but if i were you i download the bootloader.bin from the wiki |
11:24:25 | Chamois | iriverboot page |
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11:25:44 | ashridah | textchimp: it works here. |
11:26:02 | ashridah | Chamois: i haven't tested that bootloader.bin myself. |
11:26:14 | ashridah | the fwpatcher contains its own bootloader.bin afaik, an older one |
11:26:44 | Chamois | ok |
11:26:58 | Chamois | so i'm going to compile myseolf |
11:27:01 | Chamois | thx |
11:29:08 | ashridah | i'd be careful about using anything but one from the wiki, personally. |
11:29:34 | ashridah | i'm currently using a 1.65-US one that matches 62a6462425b12691a3dad75364512e92, which is what fwpatcher generates currently |
11:29:46 | ashridah | (md5sum matches that i mean) |
11:32:05 | Chamois | the verson you use has not the latest bug fixes |
11:32:06 | Chamois | ? |
11:33:04 | ashridah | not the most absolute recent, but it had working OGG support for 1.65 |
11:33:34 | HCl | morning.. |
11:40:59 | textchimp | do i just need the general rockbox source? like there's not a special one for the iriver? |
11:42:28 | textchimp | i could just get a daily snapshot built from the cvs couldn't i? rather than a full checkout |
11:44:10 | ashridah | it's all pretty much integrated |
11:44:27 | ashridah | so rockbox's source builds for all platforms |
11:44:54 | textchimp | ok |
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12:10:07 | chimpfrenzy | the src docs say i have to have sh-elf-gcc in my path....is this the gcc i compiled? |
12:10:11 | chimpfrenzy | and do i have to rename it to that regardless of my target? |
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12:12:28 | Chamois | hcl ? |
12:12:47 | Chamois | did you make a new ihp_120. |
12:12:54 | Chamois | with the new bootlader |
12:12:59 | Chamois | i wqant to comapre md5 |
12:13:42 | ashridah | textchimp: for iriver development, you'll have m68k-elf-gcc |
12:13:47 | ashridah | not sh-elf-gcc (which is for the archos platform) |
12:14:12 | textchimp | was i supposed to rename that myself? |
12:14:47 | textchimp | anyway, when i ran configure i chose the irivier platform, and it still created all the makefiles with sh-elf-* in them |
12:16:26 | ashridah | no, you don't have to rename gcc's filenames at all |
12:16:33 | textchimp | oh ok, i see they're already named like that |
12:16:36 | ashridah | it should automatically create m68k-elf-gcc and friends |
12:16:49 | ashridah | because you would have used −−target=m68k-elf |
12:16:51 | textchimp | but the makefiles still have the sh-elf- prefix for all the executables |
12:17:15 | Chamois | so |
12:17:21 | ashridah | Chamois: i'm trying 1.65 US with the newest bootloader.bin from the wiki atm |
12:17:24 | Chamois | anyone with new bootloader flashed ? |
12:17:28 | Chamois | ok |
12:17:33 | ashridah | and it looks like someone else has tried 1.65EU with it |
12:17:38 | Chamois | i test atm with the 1.65EU |
12:17:44 | Chamois | ah |
12:17:46 | Chamois | who ? |
12:17:50 | ashridah | that person was probably linus |
12:18:09 | Chamois | how do you know that ? |
12:18:21 | ashridah | he edited the page last, afaik. |
12:19:03 | Chamois | yes |
12:19:17 | Chamois | in fact i only want to compare md5 |
12:19:50 | ashridah | okay, i'm getting the same md5 for the US build as that page currently, using mkboot from rockbox's cvs |
12:19:55 | ashridah | fwpatcher won't get that currently. |
12:20:23 | ashridah | it'll get one of the older md5sum's from the second table of them |
12:20:53 | Chamois | ok |
12:21:00 | Chamois | i have the same md5 than linus |
12:21:03 | Chamois | go o flash |
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12:21:33 | textchimp | i'm getting the error 'convbdf: command not found' when i try to do a make |
12:22:14 | ashridah | that should be in the 'tools' directory |
12:23:04 | textchimp | yeah, ok i have to do a make there first yeah? |
12:23:07 | textchimp | but it dies too |
12:23:31 | ashridah | you dont' run make in those directory, you create an extra directory, then run ../tools/configure |
12:23:34 | ashridah | then 'make' |
12:23:39 | ashridah | then make zip |
12:23:55 | ashridah | that should be all that's necessary, provided the fonts are checked out (often need to be checked out separately) |
12:23:58 | textchimp | firmware/export/config.h:23:22: autoconf.h: No such file or directory |
12:24:15 | textchimp | i checked out rockbox-devel |
12:24:47 | textchimp | i did run ../tools/configure first, in the build dir i made....but it doesn't look like it even changed the prefix for the gcc tools |
12:24:57 | Chamois | ok |
12:24:59 | ashridah | autoconf.h is generated |
12:25:02 | Chamois | flashed with the new bootlader |
12:25:09 | Chamois | work perfectly |
12:25:14 | Chamois | congrats LINUS |
12:25:16 | ashridah | Chamois: cool |
12:26:02 | ashridah | textchimp: so you've definently selected '9' for iriver, 'N' for normal firmware, then the appropriate language? |
12:26:11 | textchimp | okay, it's working now that i built convbdf by running make in the tools dir |
12:26:11 | Chamois | oh |
12:26:15 | Chamois | i found a problem |
12:26:16 | textchimp | ashridah: yes |
12:26:17 | ashridah | did it say something like Language set to english |
12:26:21 | ashridah | Using m68k-elf-gcc 3.4.2 (304) |
12:26:21 | ashridah | Created Makefile at the end? |
12:27:08 | Chamois | when hold is switched ON an i turn on the iriver, HDD starts to turn and few times after iriver turns off |
12:27:20 | Chamois | the HDD spinning is not necessary |
12:27:21 | textchimp | yeah it did this time |
12:28:18 | textchimp | ok it seems to have built a rockbox.iriver |
12:28:23 | textchimp | are the plugins a separate checkout? |
12:28:31 | ashridah | hmm. looks like someone's broken the build system |
12:28:46 | ashridah | it should build the /tools/ directory automatically if necessary. |
12:29:37 | textchimp | ok, i'll test this later |
12:29:41 | textchimp | thanks for the help |
12:32:16 | ashridah | Chamois: iirc, iriver's firmware used to do the same thing. it could just be the default state for the ATA controller in the unit on poweron |
12:33:09 | ashridah | you'd have to ask LinusN if it's a bug or not |
12:33:15 | Chamois | yes |
12:33:27 | Chamois | but in the first verson of the bootloader this problem was not |
12:33:50 | ashridah | hm. it could be because it was powering off quicker. |
12:35:24 | Chamois | yes |
12:35:30 | Chamois | so |
12:35:33 | Chamois | time to lunch |
12:35:35 | Chamois | see you later |
12:35:36 | Chamois | bye |
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12:36:48 | MoosCamaro | Hi guys |
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12:42:43 | t0mas | hi |
12:43:48 | MoosCamaro | hi t0mas |
12:44:36 | t0mas | hm... new answere for people asking if you can run with iriver... |
12:44:40 | t0mas | Yes you can. |
12:44:58 | t0mas | I jogged with it for 2 hours... and it didn't skip a second... |
12:45:08 | t0mas | and just fsck-ed the disk :) |
12:45:14 | t0mas | no problems there too |
12:46:00 | MoosCamaro | yes me too, I run regulary with it, and never any problems |
12:46:51 | t0mas | well I had one problem :) |
12:46:59 | t0mas | my dog got tired after about 1:30 |
12:47:13 | MoosCamaro | hihi :) |
12:47:23 | t0mas | he's kind of lazy... |
12:49:12 | MoosCamaro | what kind of dog it is? |
12:57:55 | t0mas | ehm.. |
12:57:57 | t0mas | labrador |
12:57:58 | t0mas | in dutch |
12:58:25 | t0mas | like this one: http://www.petplanet.co.uk/petplanet/fun/postcards/breedpostcards/Dogs/labrador_yellow.jpg |
12:59:43 | t0mas | but he's not really mine... my neighbors pay his food... as it's their dog... but they're always traveling.. so the dog is here most of the time |
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13:00:19 | t0mas | brb, time to get some food |
13:01:47 | MoosCamaro | labrador in french too |
13:02:04 | crashd | and english ;) |
13:02:11 | t0mas | ok :) |
13:02:14 | MoosCamaro | it's nice dog |
13:02:23 | MoosCamaro | with childs.... |
13:03:39 | t0mas | and I am a child ;) |
13:04:28 | MoosCamaro | hihi :) i think the litles childs |
13:05:14 | t0mas | :) |
13:05:20 | t0mas | he likes my sister too yeah... |
13:05:30 | t0mas | only bad point... he likes water |
13:05:48 | MoosCamaro | you can leave your child with itwithout problems |
13:05:53 | t0mas | and my garden ends in water... |
13:06:00 | t0mas | so he jumps in some times... |
13:07:23 | * | t0mas is away: really time to eat now :) |
13:07:39 | MoosCamaro | me too |
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13:23:11 | preglow | ashridah: i'd seriously consider stopping making my bootloaders from cvs, heh |
13:24:13 | preglow | i think cvs gives a broken bootloader, some times |
13:25:39 | ashridah | that's entirely possible |
13:25:54 | ashridah | since it isn't regression tested, and it draws a fair bit ofcode from the rest of rockbox |
13:26:05 | preglow | indeed |
13:26:18 | preglow | afaik, linux had to struggle a bit to make it work before he patched it up, recently |
13:26:30 | preglow | linuS |
13:26:31 | preglow | argh |
13:27:23 | ashridah | yeah, well, he's posted a working bootloader.bin |
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13:58:18 | tucoz | hi, anyone knows how to clear the remote display on exit from plugin? |
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14:00:17 | tucoz | nevermind, found out. remote_clear_display() followed by remote_update() |
14:00:29 | amiconn | hi tucoz |
14:00:32 | tucoz | hi |
14:00:43 | amiconn | I tested your snow enhancements a bit more |
14:00:51 | tucoz | I saw that my changes crashed the win32 sim |
14:00:53 | tucoz | :( |
14:01:05 | amiconn | Seems the crash in the sim is a simulator problem under cygwin |
14:01:22 | tucoz | oh, ok. I made the snow visible on the remote aswell |
14:01:26 | amiconn | Some other plugins also crash. Under linux there are no crashes |
14:01:35 | tucoz | no, I tried most of the sims |
14:01:41 | tucoz | on linux that is |
14:02:03 | amiconn | I changed your snow bitmap for iriver a little, since rasher meant they were too bulky |
14:02:14 | amiconn | Still 5x5, only a different bitmap |
14:02:17 | tucoz | hehe, great. |
14:02:41 | tucoz | do you have the hex values for that one? |
14:03:01 | amiconn | I also changed your formatting a bit to conform to rockbox style |
14:03:23 | tucoz | hrm, well. With tabs and stuff or? |
14:03:29 | tucoz | that is, spaces |
14:03:50 | amiconn | Yes, no tabs, and max 80 chars per line |
14:04:01 | tucoz | ok, did I have tabs? |
14:04:09 | amiconn | yup |
14:04:27 | amiconn | (and even at the more common spacing of 8, so it looked rather odd here) |
14:04:29 | tucoz | fresh install of suse yesterday, and didn't edit my .emacs |
14:05:00 | tucoz | or, I may have some odd stuff for .c files |
14:05:03 | amiconn | amiconn.dyndns.org/snow.diff">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/snow.diff |
14:06:13 | tucoz | hmm, do you use emacs? |
14:06:53 | t0mas | Tip: astyle, you can set it up for rockbox style and it will restyle your files in the right formatting |
14:07:14 | tucoz | ok, how do I use astyle? |
14:07:32 | amiconn | tucoz: No, I do most of my coding in windows |
14:07:58 | tucoz | amiconn, cygwin for rockbox-dev right? |
14:08:05 | amiconn | yup |
14:08:36 | t0mas | http://www.desy.de/~njwalker/astyle.html |
14:08:43 | t0mas | there is an explaination |
14:08:53 | t0mas | http://sourceforge.net/projects/astyle/ and that's the sourceforge page |
14:09:05 | * | t0mas is away again :) |
14:09:12 | Rick | mm |
14:09:20 | Rick | I thought rockbox didn't really have a style... |
14:09:27 | Rick | it was you use the file that already is in the file |
14:09:30 | Rick | er, use the style |
14:11:13 | tucoz | t0mas, thanks. I'll have a look at it |
14:11:26 | amiconn | Rick: http://www.rockbox.org/docs/contributing.html |
14:11:42 | * | Rick is right, then. |
14:15:20 | tucoz | amiconn, I do not fully understand how to apply the patch. Where do I put the diff-file? |
14:16:21 | amiconn | The patch is generated against current cvs |
14:16:58 | amiconn | Easiest is to put it in the source root (where apps, firmware etc. are located), and then do patch -p0 <snow.diff |
14:17:05 | tucoz | ok |
14:17:23 | amiconn | This requires snow to be identical to cvs, so either re-checkout or undo your patch first |
14:17:28 | tucoz | ahh, got it |
14:18:28 | Rick | snow? |
14:18:29 | Rick | oh |
14:18:30 | Rick | the plugin |
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14:57:35 | t0mas | hi |
14:57:46 | rasher | hi.. |
14:58:38 | tucoz | t0mas, I do not get astyle to do what I want it to do |
14:59:01 | rasher | tucoz: I see you have snow on the remote. I've done the very same thing. Hurrah for duplicated effort. Are you just calling remote_bitmap() with the same parameters as lcd_bitmap() #ifdef HAVE_REMOTE_LCD? |
14:59:35 | tucoz | rasher, well I copied some stuff from your changes to logo.c |
14:59:52 | t0mas | tucoz: with the commandline options |
14:59:53 | rasher | Also, I don't think you should bother clearing the remote display |
14:59:56 | t0mas | or a config file |
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15:00:30 | rasher | on exit, that is. Since it'll happen automaticly eventually. |
15:00:53 | rasher | I also made the exact same snowflake that amiconn did, looks a lot nicer in my opinion |
15:01:03 | tucoz | rasher, yea I tried those as well |
15:01:27 | amiconn | tucoz: I'd like to commit the changed snow.c if you don't mind |
15:01:38 | tucoz | amiconn, go ahead |
15:02:10 | amiconn | May you give me your realname so I can credit you? |
15:02:39 | tucoz | I do not think that it's much to get credit for though, but anyways it's Martin Arver |
15:03:05 | rasher | Everyone gets credit here, I think |
15:03:12 | rasher | here being rockbox. |
15:03:21 | t0mas | tucoz: the link I gave http://www.desy.de/~njwalker/astyle.html there is an explanation of the options to use for some styles of space/tabs en brackets |
15:04:04 | rasher | amiconn: I think you should change the == 160 to >= 160 |
15:04:24 | tucoz | t0mas, yes. I tried diffrent options. It's the preprocessor lines that don't get changed in the way I want them. That is after a #ifdef |
15:05:08 | t0mas | hm... |
15:05:39 | tucoz | i think emacs inserts some tabs there, but they don't get changed when i tell astyle to do so |
15:05:48 | t0mas | −−indent-preprocessor |
15:05:52 | t0mas | is what you want? |
15:06:02 | t0mas | and convert tabs to spaces |
15:06:05 | tucoz | tried that. Let me try some more. |
15:06:43 | t0mas | −−convert-tabs |
15:06:49 | t0mas | and -s4 |
15:06:53 | t0mas | for 4 spaces indention |
15:06:54 | tucoz | yes that as well |
15:07:00 | tucoz | strange |
15:09:59 | rasher | amiconn: commit, I say |
15:11:55 | amiconn | Done. |
15:12:04 | rasher | preglow: it would seem that the DRAM mirror thing is indeed fixed |
15:16:13 | amiconn | Gtg, cu |
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15:24:03 | rasher | hrm.. I wonder what I did now.. |
15:24:47 | rasher | oh cripes, I broke everything.. |
15:25:00 | preglow | rasher: of course, i guess that's been fixed long ago |
15:25:08 | preglow | what's destroyed? :V |
15:25:17 | rasher | I accidently ran cvs commit -m "Remote support" |
15:25:22 | rasher | and forgot to add "snow.c" |
15:25:33 | rasher | so now I committed a bunch of files that shouldn't have been touched |
15:26:12 | rasher | is there an easy way to fix a commit? |
15:26:16 | rasher | revert. |
15:26:41 | rasher | this will probably result in red builds even |
15:26:45 | rasher | dammit |
15:27:16 | preglow | no easy way to revert, nio |
15:27:22 | t0mas | checkout |
15:27:23 | preglow | afaik, you have to commit the old files |
15:27:27 | t0mas | yes |
15:27:34 | preglow | rasher: now there's why i _never_ use -m |
15:27:36 | t0mas | you have to checkout the changed files... |
15:27:43 | rasher | aha.. |
15:27:51 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/?sortby=date#dirlist a bunch of them it seems |
15:27:54 | preglow | i need to _see_ the files i'm about to commit, heh |
15:28:19 | rasher | okay, so... what do I do? |
15:29:45 | t0mas | ja |
15:29:49 | t0mas | *oops( |
15:29:54 | t0mas | wrong window |
15:29:55 | rasher | How can I check out a specific revision of a file? |
15:30:21 | preglow | this is also why i keep two separate rockbox trees around, one for mods, and one for cvs |
15:30:24 | preglow | heh |
15:30:25 | t0mas | cvs co -r 1.1 |
15:30:27 | t0mas | checks out 1.1 |
15:30:28 | preglow | but i'm thinking of not doing that anymore |
15:31:48 | * | t0mas uses a graphical client in windows... |
15:31:53 | t0mas | then you see what you're commiting |
15:32:06 | t0mas | but eh... does anybody know something like that for linux/gnome ? |
15:32:22 | tucoz | cervisia I think |
15:32:45 | t0mas | hm |
15:32:49 | t0mas | that's KDE |
15:33:00 | rasher | okay.. now I have the old versions of the files |
15:33:04 | tucoz | oh, you asked for gnome. Right |
15:33:04 | rasher | how do I commit them? |
15:33:07 | rasher | cvs seems to refuse |
15:33:19 | rasher | I guess because it knows they're old |
15:33:58 | t0mas | rasher: move then outside your cvs folder |
15:34:10 | t0mas | then update your cvs folder to the new ones |
15:34:12 | t0mas | and copy back |
15:34:14 | t0mas | and then commit |
15:34:19 | rasher | ah |
15:34:45 | t0mas | (and move/copy just the files... not dirs... as there are CVS subfolders in there) |
15:35:41 | rasher | yeah |
15:35:43 | rasher | hrm |
15:35:59 | rasher | still not.. what the.. |
15:36:09 | t0mas | did you checkout the new ones? |
15:36:12 | t0mas | not the old revision? |
15:36:17 | rasher | I cvs up'ed? |
15:36:28 | t0mas | cvs update -A |
15:36:29 | rasher | after having moved the old versions out of the way |
15:36:39 | t0mas | you should use -A for the new revision |
15:36:40 | t0mas | afaik |
15:36:47 | t0mas | -A Reset any sticky tags/date/kopts. |
15:36:54 | rasher | ah |
15:37:38 | rasher | There we go, I think. |
15:37:55 | preglow | rasher: judging by linus' question on the mailing list, i suppose you should go ahead and put up a new fwpatcher, btw |
15:38:04 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/flipit.c?sortby=date&r2=1.7&r1=1.5 \o/ |
15:38:19 | rasher | preglow: I'll do that, then |
15:38:33 | preglow | didn't you fix something in fwpatcher, btw? |
15:39:00 | rasher | I fixed the broken logic in the checksumming |
15:39:17 | preglow | something about a failed move |
15:39:19 | rasher | didn't get around to adding a check to whether the file-move went right |
15:39:25 | preglow | ahh |
15:40:01 | preglow | i almost feel i should boot to windows for patching my bootloader, so i can enjoy the fruits of my labour ;) |
15:40:11 | rasher | It works in wine |
15:40:17 | preglow | 64 bit linux |
15:40:21 | rasher | Ah. |
15:40:39 | preglow | i severely doubt wine works, hehe |
15:40:47 | preglow | hmm, or maybe it does? |
15:40:52 | preglow | i just need a precompiled 32 bit wine |
15:40:55 | rasher | Do you know if MoveFileEx will return something of use? |
15:41:02 | rasher | or how it will |
15:41:03 | preglow | it almost certainly will |
15:41:09 | preglow | msdn will probably tell you |
15:41:25 | rasher | I'd rather not talk to msdn |
15:41:53 | preglow | If the function fails, the return value is zero. To get extended error information, call GetLastError. |
15:42:00 | preglow | msdn is lovely |
15:42:05 | preglow | plenty of good win32 docs |
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15:46:52 | rasher | Hrm, maybe the error message could tell the path of the temp file |
15:46:55 | rasher | that'd be helpful |
15:48:21 | rasher | But now it at least gives an error message |
15:48:46 | rasher | I think that's good enough |
15:49:57 | preglow | aye, so do i |
15:51:00 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/tools/fwpatcher/main.c?sortby=date&r2=1.4&r1=1.3 does that look okay? |
15:52:11 | preglow | sure, looks perfectly good |
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15:52:34 | rasher | I'm a bit miffed by deleting a firmware that was patched correctly, but I guess it's no biggie |
15:52:42 | ]RowaN[ | is there any way to make xcopy log what its doing to a file rather than the screen? |
15:52:55 | rasher | xcopy arguments > file.log |
15:53:59 | preglow | that function contains my very first goto in c :P |
15:56:41 | ]RowaN[ | thanks |
15:57:03 | rasher | fwpatchers uploaded and IriverBoot modified accordingly. |
15:58:34 | preglow | excellent |
15:58:43 | preglow | i shall try it myself afterwards |
15:58:59 | rasher | Try the updated snow.rock as well |
15:59:05 | preglow | will do |
15:59:49 | preglow | actually, i'll do it now |
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16:00:26 | rasher | The snowflakes are actually visible now. And on the remote as well. |
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16:05:56 | t0mas | wb |
16:10:03 | preglow | so, time to get fwpatcher.exe wet |
16:12:14 | preglow | pretty minimalist gui, eh? :P |
16:18:56 | preglow | make[1]: /home/thomj/build/rockbox/tools/convbdf: Command not found |
16:18:57 | preglow | ehh?= |
16:19:00 | preglow | i never got this before |
16:19:14 | t0mas | go to tools |
16:19:15 | t0mas | and make there? |
16:19:19 | t0mas | then try again? |
16:19:24 | * | t0mas has seen this before... iirc |
16:19:55 | tucoz | I think I got that aswell, and make'd in tools |
16:20:10 | preglow | bah |
16:20:11 | preglow | of course |
16:20:17 | preglow | i did make clean in tools by error |
16:25:10 | tucoz | got to go, bye |
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17:56:09 | Tangleding | hi |
17:56:10 | Tangleding | :) |
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18:02:46 | Deathfirst | hello |
18:02:54 | Deathfirst | how is everyone today |
18:05:08 | Deathfirst | i am using the iRiver rockbox and was wondering how to switch to the normal firmware as to listen to music |
18:06:20 | ]RowaN[ | hold down "record" as you power on |
18:11:47 | Deathfirst | I do that and nothing happens |
18:14:49 | Tangleding | Hello all :) |
18:15:11 | Tangleding | Preglow is here? |
18:16:27 | t0mas | Deathfirst: is your battery charged? |
18:16:47 | t0mas | and have you hold record down for a few seconds? |
18:16:56 | t0mas | (while pushing the on button?) |
18:18:19 | Deathfirst | howlong of a few seconds |
18:18:46 | Tangleding | to preglow |
18:19:01 | Tangleding | i've put a suggestion about fwpatcher |
18:19:11 | Tangleding | check it the bootloader esction in the wiki |
18:19:15 | Deathfirst | ah I get it prees and hold record then press on |
18:19:22 | Tangleding | i've no time enough |
18:19:25 | Tangleding | bye all |
18:19:26 | Tangleding | :) |
18:19:30 | Tangleding | Tanguy |
18:21:00 | Deathfirst | thanks again |
18:21:02 | Deathfirst | bye |
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18:49:37 | Chamois | hi |
18:50:05 | Chamois | the remote support of the plugins works for all ? |
18:50:24 | Chamois | on mine nothing appears but the rockbox logo at the start |
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18:56:05 | Chamois | anybody for the remote support ? |
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18:57:52 | tucoz | Chamois,what do you need to know about the remote-support? |
18:58:22 | tucoz | need/want |
18:59:00 | Chamois | nothing appears on my remote |
18:59:14 | Chamois | when i execute snow, or logo |
18:59:42 | Chamois | i believed there was a remote support for them |
18:59:44 | tucoz | ok, with the latest build, those work on the remote |
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19:00:02 | Chamois | you see snow or other things ? |
19:00:08 | tucoz | yes |
19:00:16 | Chamois | strange |
19:00:28 | tucoz | snow and a bouncing logo. Not at the same time though |
19:00:34 | tucoz | you have the latest build? |
19:01:26 | Chamois | yes |
19:01:55 | tucoz | One thing, I think you need to have the remote attached to the player on boot for the plugins to show up on the remote |
19:02:23 | Chamois | it's teh case |
19:02:31 | Chamois | after a logo rockbox appears |
19:02:56 | Chamois | but when i launch a remote compatible plugin nothing appears and the logo stays |
19:03:06 | tucoz | hmm, strange |
19:03:18 | Chamois | i have a 1.65EU bootloader |
19:03:22 | Chamois | with the last bootloader |
19:03:43 | tucoz | ok, I have also the 1.65, but not the lates bootloader |
19:03:44 | Chamois | it made the same thing with the previous bootloader and 1.63EU |
19:04:13 | tucoz | weird indeed. I have a h120 btw |
19:04:36 | Chamois | i have a h140 |
19:04:45 | Chamois | strange problem |
19:08:39 | tucoz | Same thing for me, when I downloaded the zip. Works when I build it myself |
19:09:43 | tucoz | got to go |
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19:10:07 | Chamois | oh |
19:10:08 | Chamois | ok |
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19:25:01 | tucoz | Might be the buildsystem on the server that is not beeing updated properly. |
19:25:33 | tucoz | Just a wild guess |
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19:30:07 | tucoz | exchanged snow.rock and logo.rock with the ones I built from a recent cvs-checkout and those work fine |
19:30:38 | tucoz | so I guess it's not the bootloader |
19:34:17 | * | tucoz away |
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19:45:21 | preglow | new bootloader and rockbox works like a charm |
19:45:24 | preglow | i like the new snow.c |
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19:52:24 | tucoz | preglow, do you know what's wrong with the build from the server? |
19:52:33 | tucoz | bleeding edge that is |
19:52:56 | tucoz | The latest changes are not working in the zip |
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20:05:19 | preglow | no idea |
20:05:22 | preglow | i build my own stuff |
20:05:46 | tucoz | me too, now that I got the tool-chain to work. |
20:06:20 | tucoz | anyway, something is not working as it should... |
20:06:40 | Chamois | tucoz ? |
20:06:45 | Chamois | can you send me your build |
20:06:45 | tucoz | yes |
20:06:51 | Chamois | to test |
20:06:56 | tucoz | the rocks? |
20:07:02 | Chamois | yes |
20:07:09 | Chamois | or the complete |
20:07:11 | tucoz | ok, hold on. |
20:07:14 | Chamois | ok |
20:08:30 | tucoz | http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/ |
20:08:38 | tucoz | there are snow and logo |
20:08:51 | Chamois | ok |
20:08:52 | Chamois | thx |
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20:52:34 | T0mas_ | hm |
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20:52:41 | T0mas_ | totally non rockbox related question |
20:52:56 | T0mas_ | but what's the term for a very detailed map in english? |
20:53:00 | T0mas_ | like the army uses? |
20:53:13 | T0mas_ | with altitude markings... and things like that? |
20:53:29 | T0mas_ | (stafkaart in dutch for HCl) |
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21:01:31 | HCl | dunno. |
21:05:42 | tucoz | don' t know if this is correct, but a google search ended up with |
21:05:45 | tucoz | carte d'état-major / ordnance survey map / Generalstabskarte / stafkaart |
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21:13:58 | Chamois | tucoz : are youhere ? |
21:14:28 | Chamois | your files snow and logo work well on my h140 |
21:14:51 | Chamois | so the problem comes from the compilation on the rockbox site |
21:15:47 | tucoz | Chamois, good thing |
21:16:05 | Chamois | how solve the problem on the site ? |
21:16:37 | tucoz | guess the core developers will find this out |
21:17:11 | HCl | Bagder works on that. |
21:17:15 | tucoz | ok |
21:17:45 | tucoz | oh, it's happenened before? |
21:19:16 | T0mas_ | tucoz: tnx |
21:26:26 | HCl | no. |
21:42:14 | odd | T0mas_: generally, it's still called a map, but the type of detail shown is often added, making it, say, a "topographical map" if it shows elevations, or a "map of water currents" if it shows water currents, etc. |
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21:42:37 | t0mas | hm.. |
21:42:45 | t0mas | I know.. we have the same in dutch |
21:42:59 | odd | it's possible that a more technical term might be "cartograph" |
21:42:59 | t0mas | but "stafkaart" is a separate word for military maps |
21:43:06 | odd | but i've never heard that used |
21:43:17 | t0mas | ordnance map was good enough |
21:43:22 | t0mas | found what I was looking for |
21:43:25 | odd | ok :) |
21:43:39 | t0mas | next search is for belgium |
21:44:02 | t0mas | as I have a dropping with some people... in teams of 3... and we want to be back first ;) |
21:44:06 | t0mas | so we need some good maps |
21:45:33 | odd | to anyone: is there any sort of estimate for how long it will be before there is a true Alpha release of rockbox for the iRiver? |
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22:47:00 | amiconn | hi |
22:47:15 | * | amiconn solved a mystery by creating a bigger one :-/ |
22:53:12 | preglow | really? |
22:54:13 | amiconn | Yup |
22:55:08 | amiconn | I still wondered about Trevor's reports that multivolume and mmc hotswap don't work on the old Ondio hw, but it was working for me |
22:55:32 | amiconn | Today I tried with my old 256 MB card (didn't have it available during the week) |
22:55:57 | amiconn | Turns out that mutlivolume and hotswap fail _for some cards_ on the old hw |
22:56:28 | amiconn | It's really strange - the 2 GB card works, the 256 MB card does not |
22:56:37 | amiconn | Both are working in new hw Ondios |
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23:10:47 | preglow | haha |
23:11:00 | preglow | fun with multiple hardware versions, isn't it? |
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23:11:50 | amiconn | It's indeed a very subtle problem, as everything is working without multivolume or hotswap enabled |
23:12:30 | amiconn | The lowlevel routines aren't different with and without mv / hotswap... |
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23:30:41 | amiconn | It seems I need to analyse the hardware circuit a bit |
23:30:59 | amiconn | Changing the clock select in the init makes it work, but I wonder why... |
23:45:47 | preglow | haha |
23:45:55 | preglow | i can do very nicely without problems like that |
23:46:06 | preglow | _and_ problems like 'why doesn't this routine run faster even though it really should' |
23:46:20 | preglow | those problems i do have... |
23:46:28 | amiconn | I know... |
23:46:36 | amiconn | This problem is actually similar |
23:47:25 | amiconn | There is a fix for a behaviour which (1) shouldn't occur (2) I'm puzzled why this fix is working... |