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| 00:19:20 | Bagder | nokia 770 looks like a fun toy |
| 00:19:37 | rasher | and it runs debian! |
| 00:20:10 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 00:27:28 | preglow | haha |
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| 00:27:43 | preglow | pbvas: ahoy, any further luck? |
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| 01:04:40 | TheVoid | anyone familiar with encoding mp3s without gaps? |
| 01:05:05 | Plugh_ | slightly |
| 01:05:48 | TheVoid | hm. well basically, i read the methods available at the rockbox site, and i wanted to do the LAME one, because it lets you play the songs out of order without corrupition |
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| 01:06:17 | TheVoid | but... LAME only comes either as the source code, or embedded with other programs... i dont know how to just get LAME |
| 01:06:41 | Plugh_ | windows or unix? |
| 01:06:49 | TheVoid | win |
| 01:07:00 | Plugh_ | read the talkbox faq |
| 01:07:01 | amiconn | There are windows binaries available |
| 01:07:10 | Plugh_ | tells you where to get a Lame.exe binary |
| 01:07:17 | TheVoid | i couldnt find them at the .... |
| 01:07:23 | TheVoid | okay hold. |
| 01:07:25 | pbvas | i got the tremor to run at %50 real time |
| 01:07:45 | TheVoid | talkbox faq? wheres that? |
| 01:07:45 | pbvas | not quite there yet but progress is visible :-) |
| 01:08:13 | textchimp | pbvas: are you doing codec optimisation? |
| 01:08:41 | pbvas | yes, i'm sort of hacking at it... no real expertise here! |
| 01:08:48 | Plugh_ | http://sourceforge.net/projects/lame |
| 01:09:00 | Plugh_ | download that zip and pull out the .exe |
| 01:09:03 | pbvas | i'm doing vorbis 'cause all my music is in that format |
| 01:09:05 | Plugh_ | it's all you really need |
| 01:09:26 | preglow | pbvas: that's excellent, have you tried running it at 120mhz? |
| 01:09:49 | Plugh_ | actually |
| 01:09:54 | preglow | pbvas: and what bitrate is this at, btw? |
| 01:09:57 | Plugh_ | there's a better download location |
| 01:10:04 | TheVoid | its a *.tar.gz |
| 01:10:12 | TheVoid | is that right, or did i go to the wrong link |
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| 01:11:36 | textchimp | pbvas: i was wondering if there weren't already existing optimised codec libraries around somewhere? |
| 01:12:10 | Plugh_ | http://www.dors.de/razorlame/download.php |
| 01:12:17 | Plugh_ | that'll work |
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| 01:13:05 | Plugh_ | http://www.hot.ee/smpman/mp3/ if you don't want razor |
| 01:13:18 | TheVoid | k neat. brb |
| 01:13:18 | Plugh_ | google is your friend |
| 01:13:25 | TheVoid | thx |
| 01:13:59 | TheVoid | so, heres a question. |
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| 01:14:18 | TheVoid | i pull the tracks off the cd as wave files, and then encode them with LAME with the gapless thing, and thats it? |
| 01:14:32 | Plugh_ | that should work |
| 01:14:36 | Plugh_ | but keep in mind |
| 01:14:48 | Plugh_ | they'll only be gapless if played in order |
| 01:14:49 | textchimp | or is it because you're optimising it for specific hardware? |
| 01:14:57 | TheVoid | well right. thats fine. |
| 01:15:09 | TheVoid | at least they wont be corrupt out of order, lol |
| 01:15:16 | TheVoid | i heart the random button sometimes |
| 01:15:31 | Plugh_ | yeah, random won't be gapless |
| 01:15:46 | TheVoid | *shrug* k |
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| 01:26:22 | preglow | textchimp: optimizing it for the h1x0 hardware |
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| 01:29:41 | amiconn | TheVoid: The latest win32 lame binaries are here: http://mitiok.free.fr/ |
| 01:31:43 | TheVoid | i'm currently trying winLAME |
| 01:31:56 | TheVoid | i'll let you know what happens. the interface is dead simple though |
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| 01:46:09 | preglow | we probably should get pbvas cvs access some time, he seems to be making steady progress |
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| 06:31:59 | raymondjtoth | hi will these firmware work with a muvo |
| 06:32:07 | raymondjtoth | a muvo fx tx 256 |
| 06:34:25 | raymondjtoth | hello |
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| 06:41:42 | raymondjtoth | hi |
| 06:41:43 | raymondjtoth | there |
| 06:42:21 | raymondjtoth | any one here |
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| 07:03:25 | raymondjtoth | text dose these firm ware work with a muvo tx fm |
| 07:03:25 | raymondjtoth | ? |
| 07:08:28 | raymondjtoth | text dose these firm ware work with a muvo tx fm |
| 07:08:28 | raymondjtoth | <raymondjtoth> ? |
| 07:12:39 | raymondjtoth | text chip |
| 07:12:41 | raymondjtoth | hello |
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| 07:23:56 | raymondjtoth | any one here to help me or is this room all bots |
| 07:23:58 | raymondjtoth | here |
| 07:24:11 | raymondjtoth | ? |
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| 07:29:22 | Bager | morning |
| 07:29:39 | raymondjtoth | bager i have a q for you you ready for it |
| 07:29:42 | raymondjtoth | and morning |
| 07:29:43 | raymondjtoth | to you |
| 07:30:00 | Bager | if i can answer ... |
| 07:30:22 | raymondjtoth | dose this mp3 firmeware with with a creative muvo tx fm 256 |
| 07:30:47 | raymondjtoth | bager that what i got |
| 07:31:11 | raymondjtoth | love to run this firemware rockbox has |
| 07:31:12 | Bager | no, it currently works only on some of archos devices, with iriver port in progress |
| 07:31:36 | raymondjtoth | bager what firmware is like this one for a creative muvo tx fm 256 out there |
| 07:31:44 | raymondjtoth | you know of any my mom is blinde |
| 07:31:57 | raymondjtoth | thats why im as,ing and want somthing like this one for my mp3 plsyer |
| 07:32:00 | raymondjtoth | player i mean |
| 07:32:21 | raymondjtoth | with same stuff as rockbox |
| 07:32:57 | raymondjtoth | bager i hate creative firemware |
| 07:32:59 | raymondjtoth | also |
| 07:33:26 | raymondjtoth | can you help bager |
| 07:33:37 | Bager | how ? |
| 07:33:58 | raymondjtoth | is there any other firmware like this ione for a creatiuve muvo tx fm 256 |
| 07:33:58 | Bager | if you have skills, you can try porting rockbox to your device |
| 07:34:06 | raymondjtoth | out there i can put on it |
| 07:34:12 | raymondjtoth | im not |
| 07:34:19 | Bager | try google-ing for something |
| 07:34:25 | raymondjtoth | i did |
| 07:34:34 | raymondjtoth | but nothing came up what i search for |
| 07:34:57 | Bager | sorry, can't help |
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| 07:43:06 | Bager | morning, LinusN |
| 07:43:12 | LinusN | shalom |
| 07:44:41 | LinusN | yes!!! epson sent me the data sheets for the color lcd that we think is in the h300 |
| 07:44:49 | raymondjtoth | lin you know any thing about creative muvo tc fm |
| 07:44:54 | Bager | yeah!!!! |
| 07:45:05 | LinusN | muvo? nothing |
| 07:45:05 | Bager | LinusN that's very good |
| 07:45:09 | raymondjtoth | muvo tx fm 256 |
| 07:45:30 | raymondjtoth | yep were can i get firmware like this one is |
| 07:45:33 | raymondjtoth | lin |
| 07:45:49 | raymondjtoth | for it i could use it |
| 07:46:14 | LinusN | i'm 99% sure you won't find a 3rd party firmware for muvo |
| 07:46:29 | raymondjtoth | any open sorce ones |
| 07:46:29 | Bager | closed architecture ? |
| 07:47:11 | LinusN | well, there are extremely few projects like rockbox |
| 07:47:35 | raymondjtoth | lin what can i use |
| 07:47:43 | Bager | in fact rockbox & ipodlinux ? |
| 07:47:50 | raymondjtoth | for firmware for it |
| 07:47:58 | raymondjtoth | that give me more stuff |
| 07:48:46 | LinusN | raymondjtoth: if creative doesn't provide upgrades, i'm sure nobody else is |
| 07:48:57 | LinusN | Bagder: and linav |
| 07:49:03 | LinusN | Bager: and linav |
| 07:49:05 | LinusN | bleh |
| 07:49:08 | Bager | heh :) |
| 07:49:08 | raymondjtoth | i love to use this with my muvo tx fm |
| 07:49:17 | raymondjtoth | these firmware |
| 07:49:43 | Bager | i must think for alternate nickname ... ;) |
| 07:50:00 | Bager | s/for/about |
| 07:50:31 | raymondjtoth | lin can this be used on a muvo tx fm |
| 07:50:57 | LinusN | raymondjtoth: no |
| 07:51:09 | raymondjtoth | reson i aask is my mom blinde and needs somthing |
| 07:51:17 | raymondjtoth | to help here like these |
| 07:52:10 | raymondjtoth | lin |
| 07:53:59 | LinusN | well, if anyone wants rockbox on movo, he/she would have to port it him/herself |
| 07:54:05 | LinusN | muvo, sorry |
| 07:54:12 | Bager | raymondjtoth i suggest you to buy some archos or iriver h1x0 from these here => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart |
| 07:54:14 | raymondjtoth | how do i |
| 07:54:34 | LinusN | open it up, document all the chips, roll up the sleeves and start programming |
| 07:54:35 | raymondjtoth | bagere she got this |
| 07:54:36 | raymondjtoth | only |
| 07:55:17 | raymondjtoth | lin did any one make a windows installer for muvo |
| 07:55:19 | raymondjtoth | yet |
| 07:55:46 | Bager | what do you mean with "windows installer" |
| 07:55:59 | raymondjtoth | exe |
| 07:56:03 | raymondjtoth | flsher |
| 07:56:30 | Bager | raymondjtoth do you understand that this device (creative muvo) has nothing common with your personal computer as architecture |
| 07:57:02 | raymondjtoth | bager yes |
| 07:57:03 | raymondjtoth | i do |
| 07:57:24 | Bager | so why do you think that ordinary windows can run on it |
| 07:57:51 | raymondjtoth | no what i mean is there an windows verson of the flashing part |
| 07:57:59 | raymondjtoth | to flasj it |
| 07:58:08 | LinusN | raymondjtoth: i bet creative has made one |
| 07:58:09 | Bager | search on creative's site |
| 07:58:17 | raymondjtoth | k |
| 07:58:39 | Bager | if there is any update, it'll be from creative, as linus already said |
| 07:58:40 | LinusN | raymondjtoth: nobody has worked with open source firmware for the muvo |
| 07:58:57 | LinusN | that i know of |
| 07:59:14 | raymondjtoth | what has thay done with the one that creative did |
| 07:59:30 | raymondjtoth | or what other firmeware is there took and modifiyed the one thay mad |
| 07:59:57 | LinusN | i don't understand what you mean |
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| 08:00:27 | Bager | raymondjtoth to make open firmware to run on your muvo it's not enough to change 2-3 letters in the code ... it's much of work to do it ... |
| 08:00:41 | raymondjtoth | ok |
| 08:01:11 | Bager | which envolves understanding how hardware works ... electronics ... |
| 08:01:18 | LinusN | it has so far taken us more than 6 months to port rockbox to the iriver |
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| 08:02:01 | Bager | heh ... |
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| 08:02:12 | raymondjtoth | ok lin |
| 08:02:35 | LinusN | and we don't change the existing firmware, we write our own |
| 08:03:18 | raymondjtoth | ok i looking for them on search |
| 08:03:40 | raymondjtoth | thats what im want |
| 08:03:43 | raymondjtoth | but will search |
| 08:03:50 | LinusN | you will probably not find any voice menus in their upgrades |
| 08:04:47 | Bager | raymondjtoth i really suggest you to buy device on which rockbox runs or will run in near future, if you really want blind-user-friendly interface .... |
| 08:04:56 | raymondjtoth | ok |
| 08:07:23 | * | Bager is scared from his bad english language |
| 08:08:12 | raymondjtoth | sorr im a disability person |
| 08:08:27 | Bager | no, i mean my language :) |
| 08:10:10 | Bager | LinusN what's probability that the H3x0's LCD is epson's one |
| 08:10:32 | LinusN | i *think* it's pretty high, but i'll have to investigate |
| 08:11:14 | Bager | for sure :) |
| 08:11:44 | Bager | LinusN btw have you ever heard about www.moneybookers.com ? |
| 08:12:04 | Bager | (regarding to donating to the project) |
| 08:12:19 | LinusN | haven't heard of it |
| 08:12:33 | Bager | see it |
| 08:12:37 | Bager | for example |
| 08:12:59 | Bager | i can't donate through paypal |
| 08:13:10 | Bager | but i can through moneybookers |
| 08:13:17 | Bager | it's not so easy, but ... |
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| 08:19:15 | amiconn | morning |
| 08:20:14 | LinusN | moo |
| 08:20:22 | amiconn | wiki spam again :( |
| 08:20:47 | Bager | amiconn: AVeryGoodSite? |
| 08:21:04 | LinusN | killed and buried |
| 08:22:14 | amiconn | Thanks. |
| 08:23:07 | amiconn | I would do this myself if I knew whether the delete function from the web ui is a sufficient method |
| 08:23:23 | amiconn | It doesn't really delete, only move to the Trash web... |
| 08:23:35 | LinusN | that's enough for me |
| 08:23:41 | LinusN | that's what i do |
| 08:24:33 | Bager | where is Trash web ? |
| 08:24:44 | Bager | is it available through http ? |
| 08:24:51 | amiconn | yes |
| 08:25:39 | Bager | url ? |
| 08:26:01 | amiconn | LinusN: I dunno whether moving to the Trash web makes sense for this spam pages. The Trash web is still accessible (and searchable?) |
| 08:26:14 | amiconn | Bagder: It's a part of the wiki on the rockbox site |
| 08:26:39 | LinusN | amiconn: does it matter? |
| 08:26:44 | amiconn | Deleted topics don't get deleted for real, but moved to the trash web |
| 08:27:32 | amiconn | LinusN: Imho it does. From what I understand this kind of spam tries to attract traffic to their own site(s) using the popularity of rockbox |
| 08:27:33 | Bager | i can't find it :) |
| 08:28:09 | amiconn | So as long as these pages can be found using google... |
| 08:29:49 | amiconn | Bagder: Go to the wiki, then replace 'Main' in the url with 'Trash' |
| 08:30:03 | amiconn | Don't want to link directly... |
| 08:30:55 | Bager | no problem :) |
| 08:31:10 | Bager | just curious |
| 08:35:57 | Rick | just add rel="nofollow" to all the links |
| 08:35:58 | Rick | ;p |
| 08:40:04 | * | LinusN accidentally deleted too many topics from the Trash web :-) |
| 08:40:25 | Bager | LinusN eeee |
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| 09:25:14 | bobTHC | mornin' all ! |
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| 09:55:51 | Byron | I need some help, I am getting *PANIC* ata -1 error on my archos recorder 20 |
| 09:57:13 | Byron | just spins up and sits on the archos rockbox screen for about a minute, says ATA Error, press on to debug and then I press on and it shows a bunch of numbers, I press on again and it says *PANIC* ata -1 in large friendly letters |
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| 10:01:11 | sox | hoy |
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| 10:02:47 | Byron | hello |
| 10:02:49 | sox | is there any good music managers for *nix computers? i'm on a mac and itunes is so stupid, it can't work with files directly from the iriver |
| 10:03:17 | Byron | don't know, I'm here trying to get some help with my Archos |
| 10:03:21 | Byron | seems to be broken. |
| 10:03:48 | sox | i want it mainly for playlist creation (and yeah, i know i can do it with rockbox but i would prefer some better gui) |
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| 10:04:03 | sox | byron: oh bad for you |
| 10:04:21 | Byron | Yeah... getting a *PANIC* ata -1 message |
| 10:05:31 | B4gder | you have freshly charged batteries? |
| 10:06:17 | Byron | Yeah... I am wondering if there is a discharge option on the archos, maybe I need to drain them and try charging again |
| 10:06:35 | LinusN | Byron: can you hear it spin up? |
| 10:06:38 | Byron | yes |
| 10:06:50 | LinusN | have you dropped it? |
| 10:07:21 | Byron | nope, not that I know of, it was in backback when I discovered it was no longer breaking so maybe it did encounter a shock |
| 10:07:32 | Byron | err working |
| 10:07:35 | LinusN | sox: there is a link to a comprehensive table of tools on the documentation page |
| 10:07:38 | Byron | breaking = working |
| 10:07:59 | * | Byron is tired... sorry for that |
| 10:08:19 | LinusN | start with fresh batteries, then you should open it up and remove and put back the hard drive |
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| 10:08:43 | Byron | is there a page that will walk me through the dis-mantle process |
| 10:08:47 | LinusN | meaning: try with fresh batteries, then open it up if that doesn't help |
| 10:09:06 | Byron | my archos dosen't have a battery compartment, it's a recorder 20 |
| 10:09:18 | LinusN | there are good descriptions on the documentation page |
| 10:09:45 | Byron | okay... so your thinking that the hard drive is loose or the batteries are bad? |
| 10:09:52 | LinusN | my recorder 20 has two battery compartments |
| 10:09:59 | Byron | it does... where? |
| 10:10:00 | LinusN | Byron: yes i do |
| 10:10:06 | LinusN | on each side |
| 10:10:24 | Byron | oohh... is yours a v1 or a v2 |
| 10:10:31 | LinusN | v1 |
| 10:10:49 | LinusN | i have an fm recorder as well |
| 10:10:52 | B4gder | v1 is mostly implied when not mentioned |
| 10:10:54 | Byron | maybe that's why... mine is a v2 |
| 10:10:59 | LinusN | B4gder: exactly |
| 10:11:06 | Byron | sorry |
| 10:11:10 | Byron | v2 recorder 20 |
| 10:11:16 | LinusN | that's better |
| 10:11:17 | Byron | does that one have a battery compartment/ |
| 10:11:18 | Byron | ? |
| 10:11:23 | LinusN | yes it has |
| 10:11:33 | LinusN | the lid is on top of the recorder |
| 10:11:38 | Byron | do I need to unscrew anything or can it be opened with my fingers? |
| 10:11:43 | Byron | okay |
| 10:12:04 | LinusN | i don't there are any screws, but i don't really remember |
| 10:15:27 | Byron | Q3. Ok, I got a replacement, now how do I put it in? |
| 10:15:27 | Byron | A3: Remove the two small screws on the top of your V2/FMR, and pry the lid off. Now turn it upside down and shake it a little. It should just slide out. Take note of the position it's in, and put the replacement in the same way. Replace the cover. |
| 10:15:55 | LinusN | there you go |
| 10:16:16 | Byron | okay |
| 10:16:28 | Byron | oops, they don't take run-of-the-mill batteries |
| 10:16:36 | LinusN | nope |
| 10:16:37 | Byron | They are 2200 mAh LiIon rechargeable batteries. Specifically, it is two 1100 mAh LiIon cells in parallel, physically taped together. |
| 10:16:53 | LinusN | no need to tell me :-) |
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| 10:20:28 | LinusN | http://www.hotmp3gear.com/mmjb/disassembly.htm |
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| 11:08:29 | Chamois | linus |
| 11:08:34 | Chamois | are you here ? |
| 11:08:56 | Rick | he last spoke 40 minutes ago |
| 11:09:26 | Chamois | yes i see that |
| 11:11:39 | Rick | rather, 5 |
| 11:11:40 | Rick | 0 |
| 11:11:40 | Rick | :p |
| 11:12:25 | Chamois | any news about austriancoder who worked on fm radio |
| 11:12:30 | Chamois | ? |
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| 11:17:32 | QT | hi! what is the status of MP3 playback of the iriver port? |
| 11:24:50 | | Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-189.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 11:26:06 | B4gder | no recent news on that front |
| 11:27:18 | QT | alright. thanks |
| 11:27:37 | QT | i was reading some comments on misticriver.net about the port and it sounds very promising |
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| 11:27:50 | QT | but without playback no need for me to flash the software yez |
| 11:27:54 | QT | s/yez/yet |
| 11:28:12 | B4gder | how else are you gonna get your hands wet with developing? B-] |
| 11:28:23 | QT | i am useless at developping :-( |
| 11:28:48 | B4gder | a perfect opportunity to learn! |
| 11:28:52 | QT | just a plain user |
| 11:38:07 | * | LinusN just opened his h300 and looked at the lcd markings |
| 11:38:33 | LinusN | the camera is out of order atm, but i'll get pictures asap |
| 11:39:07 | bobTHC | epson lcd ? |
| 11:39:12 | LinusN | probably not |
| 11:40:01 | LinusN | the markings for the COG is "IZI2049-02", but the I's may very well be 1's |
| 11:40:16 | bobTHC | :) |
| 11:41:02 | Bager | heh |
| 11:41:39 | Bager | but your experience shows that iriver are working with epson compatible LCDs |
| 11:42:12 | Bager | so it's possible |
| 11:44:00 | bobTHC | it's maybe Iz1 |
| 11:58:43 | rasher | no combinations of 1, I and l turns up anything on google afaics |
| 11:58:50 | Bager | LinusN is "0" zero or o |
| 11:58:56 | Bager | rasher:) haha |
| 11:59:00 | Bager | just tried the same |
| 11:59:08 | Bager | 1ZI2049 |
| 11:59:17 | Bager | IZ12049 |
| 11:59:22 | Bager | 1Z12049 |
| 11:59:23 | LinusN | i'll provide a picture shortly |
| 11:59:52 | rasher | can't bet on such things to be in google though I guess |
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| 12:00:06 | Bager | IZI2049 |
| 12:00:08 | Bager | yeah |
| 12:00:34 | rasher | probably in this "deep web" that people keep talking about |
| 12:00:52 | LinusN | those asian companies aren't very public |
| 12:00:58 | * | Bager offers LinusN to ask iriver :P |
| 12:01:07 | LinusN | i did |
| 12:01:10 | LinusN | no reply |
| 12:01:13 | Bager | you DID ? |
| 12:01:20 | rasher | you could try asking their repair shop |
| 12:01:20 | LinusN | yup |
| 12:01:23 | Bager | i didn't know this fact |
| 12:01:30 | LinusN | rasher: email? |
| 12:01:30 | rasher | csc something |
| 12:01:36 | rasher | hang on |
| 12:02:26 | * | LinusN goes to lunch |
| 12:11:35 | rasher | ah, "CMS Peripherals" |
| 12:13:10 | rasher | as per http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=1170 |
| 12:13:12 | rasher | and others |
| 12:18:23 | rasher | Contact form: http://www.cmsperipherals.com/contact/register1.asp |
| 12:18:59 | rasher | although they don't want to deal with end users, it seems, only retailers |
| 12:19:09 | rasher | (sounds like my kind of place - no end users!) |
| 12:19:58 | Bager | ;) |
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| 12:34:10 | rasher | Haha, slashdot banned themself from their own rss |
| 12:34:39 | rasher | so the developers-section "slashbox" is telling me that my headline reader has been banned |
| 12:34:42 | rasher | nice going there |
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| 12:40:57 | preglow | LinusN: imdct's in the patch tracker |
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| 13:11:22 | HCl | heh |
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| 13:20:04 | preglow | and i made a new codec category for the patch tracker |
| 13:20:34 | LinusN | nice |
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| 13:23:11 | rasher | anything new on the lcd? |
| 13:24:13 | preglow | we should probably get pedro vasconcelos cvs access, btw, he seems to be well on the way with tremor optimisations |
| 13:28:34 | ashridah | sweet |
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| 13:35:43 | rasher | Very |
| 13:39:12 | ashridah | i'm glad someone is. i was half afraid ogg wouldn't be good to go in time. |
| 13:42:40 | preglow | it most certainly wont be without him |
| 13:44:36 | preglow | and he seems to know what he's about |
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| 13:45:46 | Bager | who is pedro vasconcelos? i mean, is he from ogg/vorbis team |
| 13:45:58 | muesli- | hi |
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| 13:47:43 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents updated with LCD module markings |
| 13:49:37 | B4gder | Bager: he's probably just like us, another dev |
| 13:50:16 | LinusN | i am in contact with him regarding cvs access |
| 13:50:16 | Bager | LinusN: i think that it should be reasonable to delete info about the tfsc display |
| 13:50:24 | LinusN | true |
| 13:50:40 | Bager | i'll do it |
| 13:51:02 | muesli- | will there be a bootloader for 3xx series soon? |
| 13:51:10 | Bager | obviously i won't |
| 13:51:48 | LinusN | muesli-: i don't think we will release one until we have the hardware worked out |
| 13:52:01 | LinusN | i haven't even connected the bdm yet |
| 13:52:11 | muesli- | ok...am just thinking about selling my 140 to get a 320 |
| 13:52:19 | LinusN | why? |
| 13:52:23 | rasher | is the firmware comparable to the h100 ones? |
| 13:52:29 | muesli- | i love its color display |
| 13:52:36 | LinusN | i don't |
| 13:52:39 | muesli- | ;) |
| 13:52:52 | Bager | LinusN why ?:) |
| 13:52:55 | LinusN | i mean, it is totally dark when the backlight isn't on |
| 13:53:06 | B4gder | pitch black |
| 13:53:12 | Bager | yeah, but i use the remote LCD |
| 13:53:20 | muesli- | i am using the remote in 99,9% of all cases |
| 13:53:31 | B4gder | then why bother with color? |
| 13:53:41 | muesli- | playing gameboy games on a color screen is exciting me :D |
| 13:53:45 | Bager | B4gder: because it's cool... kidding |
| 13:53:46 | B4gder | hehe |
| 13:54:07 | rasher | video and pictures is cool |
| 13:54:09 | rasher | sortof |
| 13:54:12 | Bager | B4gder pictures look better with color |
| 13:54:25 | Bager | video also |
| 13:54:32 | Bager | but it's an DAP, not PMP |
| 13:54:35 | Bager | s/an/a |
| 13:55:00 | muesli- | yeah, full jpf support would rock... |
| 13:55:03 | muesli- | jpg |
| 13:55:48 | Bager | LinusN do you have any idea where/which of the chips is rtc located in |
| 13:55:52 | preglow | what's missing in the grayscale patch? |
| 13:56:13 | Bager | preglow i think the only missing thing is progressive jpg |
| 13:56:27 | preglow | not the jpeg viewer, the grayscale patch ;) |
| 13:56:42 | rasher | The move functions, resetting of the colours |
| 13:56:51 | LinusN | and the speed |
| 13:57:25 | rasher | I'd say getting it complete is before speed? |
| 13:57:31 | rasher | but yes |
| 13:57:35 | rasher | speed |
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| 14:02:30 | DMJC | I'd just be happy to be using my ihp-140 to play ogg files in rockbox.. |
| 14:03:06 | HCl | i'll take any sound playback in rockbox :P |
| 14:03:20 | DMJC | mp3/ogg |
| 14:03:33 | DMJC | soon as there's that 99.9% off my music will run |
| 14:03:49 | DMJC | only have about 2 .wma files |
| 14:03:55 | preglow | haha |
| 14:03:56 | preglow | i hav eone |
| 14:03:57 | | Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 14:03:58 | DMJC | and back to the future soundtrack is .asf |
| 14:04:07 | HCl | LinusN: any progress on the link between mp3 and dac? :/ |
| 14:04:19 | preglow | asf isn't impossible |
| 14:04:31 | preglow | but will require heaps of work |
| 14:05:19 | LinusN | HCl: not really |
| 14:05:33 | HCl | what needs to be done exactly? |
| 14:05:49 | LinusN | rasher: the problem with the grayscale patch is that it makes the entire UI slower |
| 14:06:29 | textchimp | what is the purpose of the grayscale patch? what's it for? |
| 14:06:37 | LinusN | HCl: the buffering of mp3 data, the decoding in chunks, playback if pcm data in chunks, next-track handning |
| 14:06:50 | HCl | hrm :/ |
| 14:07:00 | HCl | textchimp: to enable grayscale on iriver. |
| 14:07:01 | LinusN | textchimp: making jpeg viewing and gameboy games cooler |
| 14:07:27 | rasher | don't forget mandelbrot |
| 14:07:35 | textchimp | is it really just on/off by default? |
| 14:07:38 | preglow | yes |
| 14:07:44 | textchimp | hadn't noticed |
| 14:08:02 | textchimp | i guess i haven't been trying (or able) to view images on it until now |
| 14:08:09 | muesli- | will go2bed..l8er |
| 14:08:09 | preglow | then you haven't looked very hard |
| 14:08:40 | textchimp | no, i mean with the iriver firmware |
| 14:09:01 | textchimp | oh i see what you mean |
| 14:12:03 | preglow | the old imdct36 is complete unmaintainable |
| 14:15:40 | preglow | gcc inline asm would be a bit nicer to look at without all the quotes and \n\t |
| 14:16:44 | LinusN | indeed |
| 14:19:34 | amiconn | preglow: The \t can safely be left out, at least it works with SH1 asm |
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| 14:20:32 | webguest61 | Hi, question about the daily logs on the wiki ? |
| 14:20:38 | amiconn | preglow: Look at the grayscale lib for an (imho) nice asm formatting |
| 14:20:51 | B4gder | daily logs? |
| 14:20:57 | webguest61 | SOme logs open in a text file, very messy |
| 14:21:25 | webguest61 | others open in notmal chat format, nice, was wondering why the difference |
| 14:21:34 | B4gder | I don't understand |
| 14:21:45 | B4gder | what logs are "messy" ? |
| 14:22:04 | Bager | maybe he wants to say about the "feature" of mozilla |
| 14:22:17 | ashridah | webguest61: can you provide links of two files that show us what you mean? |
| 14:22:25 | webguest61 | yes I use firefox |
| 14:22:30 | Bager | i.e. it tries on his own to determine file type |
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| 14:22:46 | Bager | webguest61 you mean that one log is opened in firefox |
| 14:22:50 | webguest61 | yesterdays logs open in a text file only and its messy |
| 14:23:00 | Bager | and for other it wants to open through external application ? |
| 14:23:12 | webguest61 | yes |
| 14:23:18 | Bager | ;) |
| 14:23:21 | preglow | amiconn: i think the \t is only for human readability |
| 14:23:32 | preglow | amiconn: and you're right, that is pretty readable |
| 14:23:38 | rasher | webguest61: That's mozilla/firefox' fault |
| 14:23:48 | Bager | webguest61 the problem is that firefox tries to determine file type based on bytes in it |
| 14:24:02 | Bager | and in some of the logs there are "binary" symbols |
| 14:24:04 | webguest61 | just dont understand why some days are OK, and others not |
| 14:24:08 | amiconn | preglow: Imho the \t instead of spaces makes it less readable |
| 14:24:22 | amiconn | Some assemblers seem to require it, but not the gnu asm |
| 14:24:41 | preglow | well, the compiler uses \t for indentation, afaik |
| 14:24:44 | B4gder | webguest61: it simply depends on what letters they might contain |
| 14:25:15 | rasher | webguest61: if someone uses colours or other weird control-characters, firefox will go bananas |
| 14:25:37 | Ctcp | Version from rasher!~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se |
| 14:25:47 | webguest61 | ok thanks |
| 14:25:57 | rasher | Maybe dancer could be made to strip those? |
| 14:25:57 | ashridah | webguest61: yeah, firefox tries to guess based on the content, which sometimes can be misleading |
| 14:26:16 | ashridah | it can. |
| 14:26:19 | ashridah | set mode +c |
| 14:26:26 | ashridah | iirc, drops mirc colours |
| 14:26:35 | rasher | I meant dancer-the-bot |
| 14:26:46 | ashridah | oh. well. dancer the ircd can :) |
| 14:27:55 | preglow | it's not dancers job |
| 14:27:56 | ashridah | and since we have a no colour policy in here anyway (iirc), it can't hurt |
| 14:27:59 | preglow | it's a firefox bug, if you ask me |
| 14:28:41 | LinusN | it's actually a firefox *feature* according to the developers |
| 14:29:02 | LinusN | to handle badly configured web servers |
| 14:29:04 | ashridah | yeah, mimicing IE is a feature |
| 14:29:22 | ashridah | heh. they haven't gone all the way yet tho. |
| 14:29:32 | rasher | badly configured web servers is a real problem |
| 14:29:43 | ashridah | they won't render .html as html if the webserver claims it's a gif :) |
| 14:30:13 | rasher | if only the download dialog would offer to "open in firefox as text" or something like that |
| 14:30:16 | LinusN | well, the fix in question only handles text/plain types |
| 14:30:23 | LinusN | rasher: agreed |
| 14:30:55 | preglow | LinusN: do you have any idea why the measure realtime percentage increases steadily for some mp3 files? iriver.mp3 does that here, and that's 320 CBR |
| 14:31:15 | LinusN | i have no idea |
| 14:31:45 | LinusN | i guess we can blame the xxx2wav code for that |
| 14:32:00 | preglow | probably |
| 14:32:05 | preglow | i just don't get what's going on |
| 14:32:10 | preglow | for some files it works wonderfully |
| 14:32:56 | * | rasher mounts the ihp100 |
| 14:33:09 | rasher | using the iriver firmware :-\ |
| 14:33:34 | rasher | Vendor: TOSHIBA Model: MK1003GAL Rev: 0 0 |
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| 14:34:09 | preglow | no surprises there |
| 14:34:25 | rasher | indeed not |
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| 14:35:08 | * | rasher copies over iriver.mp3 |
| 14:35:44 | * | preglow wants authorative emac documentation for his birthday |
| 14:36:34 | bobTHC | :) |
| 14:36:59 | rasher | wow, previous owner sure was bass-hungry |
| 14:38:28 | webguest61 | me hugs his H140 |
| 14:38:50 | webguest61 | ughh, that doesnt work here ( me) |
| 14:39:34 | rasher | no, it does |
| 14:39:45 | * | rasher see? |
| 14:40:25 | webguest61 | hmm, I'm chatting via the wiki link and firefox, maybe thats the reason |
| 14:40:44 | rasher | So am I. |
| 14:40:48 | webguest61 | *smiles |
| 14:41:47 | rasher | /me blarh |
| 14:42:18 | * | webguest61 has a big smile on |
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| 14:43:30 | webguest61 | thanks for the info, later |
| 14:44:05 | | Quit webguest61 ("CGI:IRC") |
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| 14:48:06 | rasher | didn't know there were -jp firmwares for the h1x0s |
| 14:58:12 | rasher | Heh, applying the bootloader to a ihp_100.hex file went fine |
| 14:58:20 | preglow | well |
| 14:58:29 | preglow | that's no guarantee :P |
| 14:58:38 | preglow | go ahead and flash it, wuss! |
| 14:58:55 | rasher | Indeed not, just tells us that it's pretty similar to the ihp_120.hex |
| 14:59:15 | ashridah | or that the error checking isn't good enough :) |
| 14:59:19 | rasher | preglow: it's tempting, since I'll be sending it to LinusN anyway |
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| 15:05:34 | rasher | looks like the nokia thing has the same DSP as the neuros devices |
| 15:05:41 | rasher | should probably speed up the gcc port |
| 15:06:22 | preglow | what dsp is that? |
| 15:06:22 | preglow | ti? |
| 15:06:56 | rasher | TI-c54x if memory serves |
| 15:07:04 | rasher | yup |
| 15:07:31 | Bager | what's that nokia thing ? |
| 15:08:15 | rasher | Nokia 770 - http://nokia.com/770 |
| 15:08:25 | rasher | It runs Linux |
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| 15:25:38 | rasher | Flashing is tempting :-\ |
| 15:26:12 | ashridah | i wouldn't, personally. Linus may want to get a look at it in it's 'natural' state |
| 15:26:54 | rasher | mhm, I'm not going to |
| 15:48:07 | Slasheri | Hmm, now testing if my realtime ogg playback would work on iriver :) |
| 15:52:03 | preglow | hmm? |
| 15:52:26 | Slasheri | Just doing some testing and trying to find out how rockbox code works |
| 15:53:21 | preglow | where do you get the realtime ogg playback from? |
| 15:53:44 | Slasheri | I am trying to use the vorbis2wav plugin |
| 15:53:53 | preglow | ahh, but that isn't realtime by far ;) |
| 15:54:02 | Slasheri | Ah.. :D |
| 15:54:18 | Slasheri | Then I should try mp3 instead? =) |
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| 15:57:26 | preglow | mp3 is realtime, yes |
| 15:57:34 | preglow | but it doesn't really matter if it's realtime or now anyway |
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| 16:03:41 | Slasheri | Hmm, how should i configure/install the viewers plugins so that they will work? Is it enough to copy viewers.conf to /iriver/.rockbox and then for example vorbis2was to /iriver/.rockbox/viewers/ and finally when i select some.ogg file in the browser, vorbis2was.rock will be automatically called? |
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| 16:04:58 | MoosCamaro | Hi all |
| 16:05:08 | Slasheri | I think that currently the iriver does nothing when i select something |
| 16:05:10 | Slasheri | Hi |
| 16:06:53 | rasher | Slasheri: you have to do "open with" |
| 16:07:03 | rasher | hold down the joystick until a menu appears |
| 16:07:16 | Slasheri | Oh, interesting! :) |
| 16:08:13 | Slasheri | Now it looks much better but no audio out so far ;) |
| 16:08:16 | Slasheri | Needs more debugging |
| 16:09:20 | preglow | needs more coding |
| 16:10:20 | Slasheri | Yes.. I have already added some code and a new thread |
| 16:19:27 | preglow | to what? |
| 16:20:25 | Slasheri | To check if there are new pcm data available and if there is, it will start audio playback. |
| 16:20:37 | Slasheri | But now i am only testing everything.. :D |
| 16:21:57 | B4gder | if you link with my logf.c code, you'll get a neat little debug log in the remote |
| 16:22:16 | rasher | Is that already working? |
| 16:22:23 | B4gder | I believe so |
| 16:22:28 | rasher | neat |
| 16:22:39 | B4gder | but it isn't used by the code yet |
| 16:22:41 | Slasheri | B4gder: Hmm, great. I will try that soon :) |
| 16:22:56 | B4gder | since I haven't made any enable/disable option |
| 16:23:00 | rasher | I have a scan of my ihp-120, will add to the wiki in a bit |
| 16:23:15 | rasher | since I noticed that there wasn't one |
| 16:23:21 | rasher | also of the remote |
| 16:23:41 | rasher | and the ihp-100 as well, since I was scanning already |
| 16:23:59 | B4gder | cool |
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| 16:29:30 | zol1 | g'day |
| 16:32:36 | rasher | B4gder: can the log be read through the debug menu, or only on the remote? |
| 16:48:10 | preglow | your own code has to take care of it |
| 16:48:29 | preglow | and from what i can glean from the code, it seems like both remote and ordinary lcd are supported |
| 16:49:33 | preglow | rasher: weren't you supposed to make a dr. roboniks mean bean machine clone? :> |
| 16:50:40 | rasher | That was HCl |
| 16:52:24 | preglow | well, anyway, someone needs to do it :P |
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| 17:02:55 | HCl | eh? |
| 17:02:58 | HCl | yes, thats me :P |
| 17:03:02 | HCl | but. |
| 17:03:06 | HCl | i want mp3 playback working first |
| 17:03:07 | HCl | :P |
| 17:03:12 | HCl | cause i want to finish the runtime db first |
| 17:03:20 | HCl | and i prefer mp3 playback for that. |
| 17:05:08 | rasher | the breakout clone was me |
| 17:05:14 | rasher | but I gave up on that |
| 17:06:07 | rasher | aww I want to try flashing the ihp-100! |
| 17:07:09 | rasher | Hrm.. the "center-scrolling" idea on MR sounds nice |
| 17:07:41 | rasher | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showpost.php?p=236372&postcount=700 |
| 17:08:01 | ashridah | a good idea coming from misticriver? never! |
| 17:08:50 | preglow | why do you need mp3 playback for runtime db? |
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| 17:39:15 | preglow | oh, how my ubuntu has fallen over |
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| 17:47:47 | Slasheri | Hmm, now i got audio output on vorbis, but yeah, it's not realtime at all |
| 17:47:54 | Slasheri | But i can hear that the decoding works! |
| 17:48:08 | preglow | try it with mp3 |
| 17:48:16 | Slasheri | Yes, i try it next |
| 17:50:11 | rasher | preglow: Yes, breezy is in a state of flux right now it seems |
| 17:50:24 | rasher | something to do with xorg |
| 17:50:26 | preglow | i don't friggin use breezy |
| 17:50:40 | preglow | i did a failed attempt at using it, but i never got it working |
| 17:50:41 | rasher | Ah, so it just fell over standing still? |
| 17:50:48 | preglow | no |
| 17:50:50 | preglow | i did a kernel upgrade |
| 17:50:58 | preglow | because one was scheduled |
| 17:51:04 | preglow | and now all kernels i try to install end up non-functional |
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| 17:51:42 | preglow | only error i can see during dpkg-reconfigure is a /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 complaint |
| 17:52:24 | preglow | do you know of any way for me to be completely certain i have no residual breezy files? |
| 17:54:31 | preglow | #ubuntu seems to be useless as far as getting help is concerned |
| 17:55:13 | bobTHC | mkfs /dev/hda ;) |
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| 17:55:32 | bobTHC | i'm kinding preglow ! |
| 17:55:56 | rasher | preglow: not really |
| 17:55:59 | bobTHC | s/kinding/kidding |
| 17:56:20 | preglow | haha |
| 17:56:32 | preglow | well, this is really frustrating |
| 17:56:41 | preglow | i need linux for coding |
| 17:56:58 | bobTHC | use a liveCD to repair ure linux |
| 17:57:31 | Zagor | install the kernel by hand. then you have base to experiment from. |
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| 18:00:04 | preglow | if i could find out which script does the configuring, i could probably find out what is broken |
| 18:00:17 | preglow | the kernels break when i dpkg-reconfigure them |
| 18:00:31 | preglow | and some program in that script doesn't get run because of a faulty lib dep |
| 18:00:56 | Zagor | I never use apt/dpkg for kernels myself. i prefer monolithic kernels. |
| 18:01:09 | preglow | so do i, but i hate to struggle against the bloody package system |
| 18:01:25 | Zagor | you only struggle because you tried to use it to install the kernel ;) |
| 18:01:55 | * | Zagor hides |
| 18:02:06 | bobTHC | :) |
| 18:02:07 | preglow | it's more like i don't know how to set up the kernel to behave like ubuntu expects it to |
| 18:02:15 | preglow | and how to make it interface with the nvidia kernel module, etc |
| 18:02:31 | Zagor | do you play 3d games in linux? |
| 18:02:38 | preglow | no |
| 18:02:45 | preglow | but the nvidia module is way faster |
| 18:02:52 | preglow | gnome is slow enough as it is |
| 18:03:04 | Zagor | really? i never noticed when I had my geforce. |
| 18:03:20 | Zagor | the binary module was a lot more hassle than worth, imho |
| 18:03:24 | preglow | i can't even get the dvi connector to work without the nvidia module |
| 18:03:38 | preglow | well, if i go with the ubuntu kernel, it's absolutely no hassle |
| 18:03:42 | preglow | it just works |
| 18:04:03 | preglow | which is how i would like it right now |
| 18:04:11 | Zagor | except for the hassle needed to get the ubuntu kernel to work. i love circular stuff... :-) |
| 18:04:16 | preglow | haha |
| 18:04:26 | preglow | that's no hassle when the configure script isn't bloody broken |
| 18:04:37 | preglow | but i'm setting up a kernel right now |
| 18:04:48 | Zagor | btw you want XFree86 option "ConnectedMonitor" "DFP" to activate dvi |
| 18:05:10 | Zagor | iirc |
| 18:05:53 | preglow | that's what i've always used |
| 18:05:59 | preglow | for the lcd monitor, at least |
| 18:06:36 | preglow | oooh, exciting, i haven't tried configuring a 2.6 kernel before |
| 18:06:49 | Zagor | lots of new fun options |
| 18:07:13 | bobTHC | like what ? |
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| 18:08:25 | preglow | got DFP working with nv now |
| 18:08:33 | preglow | but it doesn't change to the correct mode |
| 18:09:07 | preglow | i get 1280x1024 |
| 18:09:13 | preglow | which i bloody refuse to use |
| 18:09:43 | bobTHC | for tft the native resolution is the only good to use |
| 18:10:07 | preglow | yes, no shit |
| 18:10:30 | preglow | 1600x1200 is native, so i sure as hell wont settle for 1280x1024 |
| 18:10:35 | preglow | which isn't even the same aspect ratio ;) |
| 18:10:40 | bobTHC | indeed |
| 18:10:50 | Zagor | i had some other options too. can't remember which ones were important: "NoBandWidthTest" "true" and "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "CRT,TV" |
| 18:11:06 | Zagor | "NvAGP" "0" |
| 18:12:20 | * | Zagor goes to cook dinner |
| 18:12:24 | preglow | NoBandWidthTest sounds about right |
| 18:12:39 | rasher | wow, my father's cheap-ass 1,5gb player is surprisingly smart.. it even has otf-playlists o.O |
| 18:13:01 | rasher | http://www.perceptiondigital.com/products/audio/1000/ |
| 18:13:26 | bobTHC | be aware preglow, tft not love to be overrefreshed |
| 18:13:35 | rasher | I threatened to take it apart |
| 18:14:01 | preglow | no dice, still the shitty resolution |
| 18:15:10 | rasher | does the log tell you why it's picking 1280x1024? |
| 18:16:44 | preglow | ehh |
| 18:16:53 | preglow | because its larger than bios programmed panel size of 1280x1025 |
| 18:16:54 | preglow | 4 |
| 18:17:25 | preglow | theres a whole load of resolution related messages |
| 18:17:36 | preglow | queer, because the only one i specify in xorg.conf is 1600x1200 |
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| 18:29:59 | preglow | well |
| 18:30:05 | preglow | i've found the bug, it seems |
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| 18:34:51 | amiconn | preglow: The 'fun' of configuring linux... |
| 18:35:01 | preglow | well |
| 18:35:04 | preglow | this is my fault, it seems |
| 18:35:16 | preglow | it has worked peachy up until now |
| 18:35:20 | amiconn | Last weekend I tried to configure wlan on a linux box - no luck |
| 18:35:36 | preglow | depends on a lot on the hardware |
| 18:35:43 | preglow | but i have absolutely no experience with wlan |
| 18:35:55 | preglow | rasher: would you know how i downgrade a package? |
| 18:36:06 | amiconn | I was able to compile the driver module, it loads and finds the card |
| 18:36:07 | preglow | rasher: seems i have the breezy libc, and shouldnt be having it |
| 18:36:17 | rasher | get the .deb and dpkg -i that |
| 18:36:32 | rasher | that *should* remove the newer version |
| 18:36:45 | amiconn | However, whenever I try to start the interface, it tells me 'using NO encryption' in spite of having it confihured to use wpa |
| 18:37:01 | amiconn | ...and consequently the card cannot connect the ap |
| 18:37:40 | rasher | what kind of driver? |
| 18:37:53 | amiconn | Ralink RA2500 |
| 18:37:59 | rasher | (also note, that gimp gets a bit sluggish loading a 6000x8000 bitmap) |
| 18:38:10 | amiconn | hehe |
| 18:38:26 | rasher | amiconn: Which driver package were you using? |
| 18:38:29 | amiconn | A bit more ram is always useful :P |
| 18:38:51 | amiconn | rasher: There is no package, I had to compile it from source |
| 18:38:56 | rasher | actually I have about 100mb ram |
| 18:38:58 | rasher | free |
| 18:39:06 | amiconn | At least RA2500 has an opensource driver |
| 18:39:26 | rasher | Website? |
| 18:39:34 | preglow | rasher: i'll try something else first, where can i get the .deb files i want? i cant seem to find them on packages.ubuntu.com |
| 18:39:59 | rasher | actually.. try apt-get install libc/hoary |
| 18:40:15 | preglow | i'll try installing hoary initrd-tools first |
| 18:40:19 | preglow | since thats a known working fic |
| 18:40:20 | preglow | fix |
| 18:40:31 | rasher | or libc6, or whatever the package name is |
| 18:40:32 | rasher | ah |
| 18:40:41 | preglow | ehh |
| 18:40:44 | amiconn | rasher: Erm, it's called RT2500. http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 18:40:45 | preglow | breezy initrd-tools |
| 18:40:49 | preglow | but i can't find the deb |
| 18:43:22 | rasher | amd64? |
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| 18:43:57 | preglow | yea |
| 18:44:09 | rasher | http://mirrors.dk.telia.net/ubuntu/pool/main/m/module-init-tools/module-init-tools_3.2-pre1-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb |
| 18:47:16 | preglow | wrong file, but i found it hanging around somewhere else on that server ;) |
| 18:47:52 | rasher | oh.. silly me |
| 18:49:07 | preglow | ahh |
| 18:49:11 | preglow | i do believe that fixed it |
| 18:49:11 | preglow | brb |
| 18:52:48 | preglow | THERE WE GO |
| 18:52:55 | * | preglow fondles 1600x1200 |
| 18:53:10 | MoosCamaro | :) |
| 18:53:21 | preglow | Slasheri: so, any luck with mp3 playback? |
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| 18:55:37 | Slasheri | preglow: Yes, it works with audio out but i can't get to work in realtime.. Still trying |
| 18:55:50 | preglow | Slasheri: running at 120mhz, i hope? |
| 18:55:56 | Slasheri | aah! |
| 18:56:06 | preglow | Slasheri: cpu_boost(true); or something |
| 18:56:16 | Slasheri | trying.. |
| 18:56:26 | preglow | i'm off for the shop for a couple of mins |
| 18:56:34 | Slasheri | okay :) |
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| 19:12:34 | Slasheri | I have done it! |
| 19:12:51 | rasher | whoa |
| 19:12:52 | Slasheri | Playing iRiver song at realtime with audio output on rockbox with iriver! |
| 19:12:59 | preglow | Slasheri: patch asap, please |
| 19:13:03 | Slasheri | :) |
| 19:13:11 | rasher | patch indeed |
| 19:13:17 | Slasheri | Okay, i will take a diff soon (it's not cvs ready at the moment) |
| 19:13:48 | preglow | not a problem, as long as i get to see, and hear, rockbox playing music |
| 19:13:55 | Slasheri | :) |
| 19:14:01 | Slasheri | great |
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| 19:15:01 | Slasheri | I still do few tests and then i will make the patch |
| 19:15:17 | rasher | Hrm, do I add the h110 to the DeviceChart or not? |
| 19:15:33 | * | preglow shrugs |
| 19:16:07 | rasher | The only difference is the harddisk and ram size.. but then, some of the archos units are pretty darn similar |
| 19:18:17 | rasher | Slasheri: are you doing buffering etc? |
| 19:18:48 | Slasheri | rasher: At the moment I have 1 MB ringbuffer for raw audio |
| 19:19:38 | rasher | okay |
| 19:19:38 | Slasheri | plugins can add pcm data to the buffer by calling audiobuffer_insert(pointer, size); |
| 19:20:16 | Slasheri | the pointer will be copied to the ring buffer and if the buffer is full, the function just blocks |
| 19:22:46 | rasher | Well, we demand a patch |
| 19:23:09 | Slasheri | You will get it soon ;) |
| 19:24:33 | Slasheri | next step would be to add a file and plugin buffer i thinkg.. |
| 19:24:55 | Slasheri | maybe i could do that at weekend ;) |
| 19:25:39 | rasher | I guess you should talk to Linus to see if he wants to push you in some direction |
| 19:25:59 | preglow | yes, indeed |
| 19:26:07 | Slasheri | yep, that would be a good idea :) |
| 19:26:33 | rasher | better have some sort of consensus, it'd be sad if your work ends up being something that Linus just doesn't want at all |
| 19:26:48 | preglow | or something he's already done |
| 19:26:55 | rasher | indeed |
| 19:26:56 | Slasheri | I still don't know very much about rockbox there might be many bugs in my code at the moment |
| 19:27:02 | Slasheri | +so |
| 19:27:18 | Slasheri | hmm, yes |
| 19:27:37 | rasher | guess you're pretty much in sync with the rest of rockbox then |
| 19:27:52 | Slasheri | :) |
| 19:28:18 | rasher | But anyways, buggy playback code is far better than no playback code |
| 19:28:57 | Slasheri | :D but now i still have to check if there is still one bug around in rockbox code or if it was in my code |
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| 19:34:07 | Slasheri | Oh, it has been fixed :) |
| 19:35:26 | Slasheri | is there some global volume parameter that i can use to set audio out volume? |
| 19:36:36 | preglow | not from a plugin |
| 19:37:02 | preglow | uda1380_setvol() should do |
| 19:37:40 | rasher | why is that not happening already? |
| 19:37:53 | preglow | hmm? |
| 19:37:53 | Slasheri | Hmm, but I mean when you set the _rockbox_ volume slider somewhere.. How i could read that setting? |
| 19:38:06 | preglow | dunno |
| 19:38:13 | Slasheri | okay, i should find out :) |
| 19:38:15 | rasher | you shouldn't have to |
| 19:38:33 | rasher | when you set the rockbox volume slider, the uda1380_setvol() should be called, shouldn't it? |
| 19:39:19 | Slasheri | Hmm, i think it should. However, i am not sure if it's called. But okay, that's so minor issue so i don't bother it at this time |
| 19:39:56 | Slasheri | Now preparing to take a diff.. |
| 19:40:46 | preglow | yes, so you should |
| 19:41:37 | preglow | argh, shit, rockbox getting sound doesn't go to well with my plans of not coding anymore rockbox |
| 19:42:17 | Slasheri | :D |
| 19:42:31 | preglow | i have an eq ready for deployment :/ |
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| 19:44:33 | Slasheri | Now you can try it =) |
| 19:44:45 | Slasheri | http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox_mp3audio.patch |
| 19:45:54 | preglow | w00t |
| 19:45:55 | Slasheri | Sorry about my bad tabulator identations.. I will use a different editor soon.. |
| 19:46:01 | Slasheri | :) |
| 19:47:19 | rasher | Sound.. amazing |
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| 19:48:15 | * | rasher catches the digital flow |
| 19:48:19 | preglow | hajaja |
| 19:48:21 | Slasheri | :D |
| 19:48:21 | preglow | excellent, man |
| 19:48:25 | Slasheri | thanks ;) |
| 19:48:38 | preglow | did you find any way to adjust the volume? |
| 19:48:42 | Slasheri | I hope i could do more coding too :) |
| 19:48:44 | MoosCamaro | Slasheri: congratulations |
| 19:48:47 | Slasheri | not yet |
| 19:48:50 | Slasheri | :) |
| 19:48:53 | rasher | now to integrate it into the actual playback code instead |
| 19:49:04 | preglow | if it can be |
| 19:49:06 | rasher | however that'd work |
| 19:49:32 | preglow | haha |
| 19:49:35 | preglow | this rocks |
| 19:50:05 | preglow | and still sounds wonderful, despite me having mangled the codec |
| 19:51:23 | preglow | mp2 works as well |
| 19:51:46 | * | preglow is the first person to play something not originally supported by iriver! |
| 19:51:47 | rasher | do you have an mp2 or the iriver song? |
| 19:51:56 | preglow | i have some files that originally were mp2 |
| 19:51:59 | Slasheri | It should be also absolutely gapless when i or somebody gets this thing integrated to the playback code |
| 19:52:05 | preglow | Slasheri: of course |
| 19:52:23 | preglow | hohohoh, i repeat, this rocks |
| 19:52:29 | Slasheri | =) |
| 19:52:32 | rasher | It very much does |
| 19:52:55 | preglow | someone put up a xshock, linus and rasheri tribute page |
| 19:53:17 | rasher | I'm a bit hesitant to report this as progress though before we find out how well it will integrate |
| 19:53:22 | preglow | of course |
| 19:53:34 | preglow | i'm just saying it rocks finally hearing realtime music |
| 19:53:44 | preglow | it's very much a hack, but it's still very cool |
| 19:53:52 | rasher | Yup |
| 19:54:37 | rasher | this song is hovering at 101,54% realtime.. is this because it's only decoding once the buffer is empty? |
| 19:54:51 | rasher | or rather, not-full |
| 19:55:22 | preglow | it can't decode as fast as possible |
| 19:55:29 | preglow | it fetches data as it needs it |
| 19:55:32 | Slasheri | rasher: yes |
| 19:55:35 | rasher | Yeah, 'swhat I figured |
| 19:55:49 | Slasheri | At the beginning it decodes at full speed until buffer is full |
| 19:56:18 | rasher | with some luck and larger chunks, the cpu could even sleep for a bit, couldn't it? |
| 19:56:29 | rasher | or will that confuse playback |
| 19:56:34 | * | preglow puts in a uda1380_setvol(0); |
| 19:56:49 | preglow | rasher: that's the plan |
| 19:57:01 | rasher | sounds like a good one |
| 19:57:07 | Slasheri | yep. at least cpu_boost should be set to false when there is nothing to decode |
| 19:57:28 | rasher | and when the buffer's full? |
| 19:57:38 | Slasheri | exactly |
| 19:57:40 | rasher | or is that the same case? |
| 19:57:43 | rasher | heh |
| 19:57:45 | Slasheri | :) |
| 19:58:19 | preglow | plan is to render what audio you need using boost, then boost off and sleep/do what needs doing |
| 19:58:41 | rasher | makes sense |
| 19:58:53 | preglow | we're aiming for 300% minimum to allow it having a decent sleep and potential time for crossfading |
| 19:59:49 | Slasheri | currently the playback will call yield until the buffer is not full. I don't know if sleep would be better? |
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| 20:00:22 | rasher | or it could start solving quadratic equations |
| 20:00:59 | preglow | there |
| 20:00:59 | rasher | which means that I have no idea which is better |
| 20:01:01 | preglow | much nicer volume |
| 20:01:14 | preglow | damn |
| 20:01:19 | preglow | the euro firmware DOES limit volume |
| 20:01:36 | Slasheri | Hmm, great. The decoder can even play somehow corrupted? mp3 files the stock firmware could not :D |
| 20:01:44 | preglow | sure |
| 20:02:02 | preglow | mp3 files are pretty error resistant |
| 20:02:04 | preglow | vorbis files are not |
| 20:02:12 | preglow | at least not until it's been initialized |
| 20:02:23 | preglow | if there's a error in the headers, you're screwed |
| 20:03:29 | preglow | the iriver firmware boots so extremely slowly |
| 20:03:50 | rasher | preglow: It's EU regulation, it seems... there was an uproar in Denmark a few weeks ago because software exists to remove this restriction from iPods |
| 20:04:06 | preglow | i take it back, btw |
| 20:04:12 | preglow | 1.65 is every bit as loud as rockbox |
| 20:04:22 | rasher | ah, alright then |
| 20:04:31 | rasher | but there *is* EU regulation on the volume |
| 20:04:34 | preglow | painfully loud on some files |
| 20:04:36 | preglow | yeah, i know |
| 20:04:38 | Slasheri | Now i should prepare for an exam tomorrow.. More coding and features at weekend .) |
| 20:04:39 | preglow | h3x0 is limited |
| 20:04:41 | rasher | however that works |
| 20:05:06 | rasher | I mean, it's not like iRiver gets to decide which headphones people use |
| 20:05:17 | CoCoLUS | preglow, could you put up that new fimeware image somwhere? |
| 20:05:35 | preglow | i'll have to put up the entire zip |
| 20:05:56 | preglow | glow.m0f0.net/rockbox.zip |
| 20:06:00 | CoCoLUS | thanks |
| 20:06:02 | rasher | rasher.dk/rockbox/rockbox.zip">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/rockbox.zip |
| 20:06:06 | rasher | heh |
| 20:06:25 | CoCoLUS | i do have quite an old bootloader, though, will that cause problems? |
| 20:06:28 | preglow | no |
| 20:06:39 | rasher | but you should update |
| 20:06:41 | preglow | indeed |
| 20:07:05 | rasher | it's very easy these days |
| 20:07:24 | preglow | yes, indeed |
| 20:07:27 | rasher | My package includes an i-icon for .iriver files! |
| 20:07:31 | CoCoLUS | with the firmware patcher gui, i assume |
| 20:07:39 | preglow | mine includes my defunct imdct optimization! |
| 20:07:42 | preglow | a preglow exclusive |
| 20:07:52 | preglow | CoCoLUS: yes |
| 20:08:11 | rasher | CoCoLuS: yes.. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/IriverBoot/fwpatcher.exe |
| 20:08:20 | CoCoLUS | thanks |
| 20:08:35 | CoCoLUS | i thought i have to compile it myself, and my toolchain is somewhat fucked up |
| 20:08:38 | rasher | It includes USB-mode-without-harddisk-activity |
| 20:08:52 | preglow | it's a most excellent bootloader |
| 20:08:55 | rasher | you should never compile the bootloader yourself |
| 20:09:43 | preglow | but ok, i'll shove away this newfound enthusiasm and try to get some school work done |
| 20:10:10 | rasher | okay, this file is playing double-speed |
| 20:10:18 | preglow | probably lower sample rate |
| 20:10:20 | preglow | which file? |
| 20:10:27 | rasher | I'll check |
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| 20:11:14 | rasher | indeed, 32khz |
| 20:11:19 | rasher | sounds funky |
| 20:11:28 | preglow | then it's not double speed, it's 44100/32000 speed |
| 20:11:47 | preglow | ahh |
| 20:11:54 | preglow | i have this extreme urge to tweak this |
| 20:13:10 | rasher | It's also running steadily at 140% |
| 20:13:56 | CoCoLUS | should it be able to play any mp3 file in realtime? |
| 20:13:58 | amiconn | 44100/32000 == 1.378125 |
| 20:14:04 | amiconn | Pretty good match |
| 20:14:25 | rasher | CoCoLUS: Yes |
| 20:14:37 | rasher | amiconn: Well it *sounded* like double-speed |
| 20:14:39 | rasher | sortof |
| 20:14:47 | rasher | I guess it didn't really |
| 20:16:04 | preglow | it's pretty hard to be certain unless you're used to listening to files at the double rate |
| 20:16:07 | preglow | :) |
| 20:16:30 | preglow | CoCoLUS: it should be able to play any mp3 file, i'm not certain about mp1 and mp2 |
| 20:17:25 | preglow | wavpack and flack should also be ready for realtime deployment |
| 20:17:34 | preglow | flac, that is |
| 20:20:04 | CoCoLUS | hey, it really works ;) |
| 20:20:22 | CoCoLUS | and it sounds perfect... |
| 20:21:02 | preglow | i think there's a bug in my image, though, but that's probably my fault |
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| 20:29:05 | Querty | w00t!!! I'm listening to mp3 on my iHP-120 with rockbox!!! |
| 20:29:15 | Querty | Great work guys! |
| 20:32:57 | Stryke` | is it through a debug menu? or just normal navigation? |
| 20:33:07 | preglow | just fire mp2wav |
| 20:33:10 | preglow | mpa2wav |
| 20:33:11 | Rick | ? |
| 20:33:14 | preglow | from the open with menu |
| 20:33:15 | preglow | like always |
| 20:33:19 | Querty | is there any way to control the volume yet? |
| 20:33:19 | Rick | when was mp3 support added? |
| 20:33:28 | preglow | mp3 has been supported for ages |
| 20:33:39 | Rick | realtime? |
| 20:33:39 | preglow | temporary mp3 playback has been added just now |
| 20:33:53 | preglow | yes, it's also been realtime for ages |
| 20:33:59 | * | Rick squints |
| 20:34:06 | rasher | It's not added. A patch exists. |
| 20:34:09 | Rick | ahhh |
| 20:34:12 | Rick | that would explain it |
| 20:34:18 | * | Rick shrugs |
| 20:34:20 | * | Rick wants ogg :> |
| 20:36:03 | Querty | Ogg isn't realtime yet |
| 20:36:09 | Querty | it does work however |
| 20:36:18 | Querty | just stutters a lot |
| 20:37:30 | preglow | vorbis is being worked on |
| 20:37:46 | preglow | Rick: i distinguish between mp3 support and mp3 playback |
| 20:37:59 | preglow | Rick: mp3 has been supported for ages, mp3 playback is now added in a patch |
| 20:41:25 | rasher | Now with Pedro Vasconcelos' optimizations and 120mhz, some ogg files would even play realtime |
| 20:41:43 | rasher | (q1) |
| 20:43:00 | Rick | q1? |
| 20:43:21 | rasher | Quality 1 |
| 20:43:53 | preglow | rasher: how do you know this? |
| 20:45:04 | Rick | ah |
| 20:45:37 | rasher | Guessing from the fact that it's currently running at 70%, and I think he almost doubled the speed? |
| 20:45:47 | rasher | (still on q1 files) |
| 20:46:33 | rasher | q10 is running at 52% |
| 20:48:39 | preglow | he mentioned 50% realtime at 49mhz using a q5-6 file yesterday |
| 20:49:32 | Querty | cute! |
| 20:50:19 | Querty | are his changes in CVS yet? |
| 20:50:48 | rasher | No |
| 20:59:30 | preglow | cvs is being sorted out |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:34 | rasher | sorted out? |
| 21:06:09 | preglow | he's getting cvs access |
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| 21:33:42 | austriancoder | hi all |
| 21:34:10 | austriancoder | with which application can i edit/extend current icons saved as hex values? |
| 21:34:22 | MoosCamaro | Hi austriancoder |
| 21:34:35 | MoosCamaro | you're alive? :) |
| 21:34:38 | Rick | I don't think there is an editor dedicated to editing the icon data |
| 21:35:06 | austriancoder | Rick: but how are the icons done? |
| 21:35:17 | austriancoder | they must also be '"designed" |
| 21:35:36 | austriancoder | MoosCamaro: yep... i am alive.. was a busy time |
| 21:36:10 | MoosCamaro | hihi ;) it's joke |
| 21:38:03 | * | austriancoder wants to extend some icons for irver ... |
| 21:39:21 | Rick | bmp2rb? or whatever it is |
| 21:39:22 | Rick | ;P |
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| 21:41:00 | austriancoder | rb2bmp.. |
| 21:41:08 | austriancoder | i want to extend the hold button icon |
| 21:41:20 | austriancoder | and for this, i need the actual icon as bmp |
| 21:46:04 | rasher | can't you just do it by hand? |
| 21:46:18 | rasher | it's a pretty quick conversion for icons |
| 21:46:33 | austriancoder | hmm |
| 21:46:36 | austriancoder | i wil try it |
| 21:46:44 | rasher | convert the hex to binary and you have vertical lines where 1 represents a lit pixel |
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| 21:48:01 | markun | rasher: I made a patch for 'center-scrolling'. It's quite nice, |
| 21:48:24 | rasher | markun: Is it an option? |
| 21:48:50 | austriancoder | rasher: thanks |
| 21:48:54 | markun | No, not yet. Do you want to try it to see if you like center-scrolling? |
| 21:48:55 | rasher | Either way, I'd love to have it |
| 21:49:10 | rasher | Yes |
| 21:49:24 | markun | http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/center-scrolling.diff |
| 21:50:46 | markun | rasher: another thing, today I installed a 2200mah battery. Do you think I have to use your plugin to get the proper adc values? |
| 21:51:08 | rasher | No idea |
| 21:51:09 | markun | Or should they be the same as with the 1300mah bat? |
| 21:51:26 | markun | Do you have the test plugin somewhere for me to download? |
| 21:51:46 | rasher | I deleted it, sadly |
| 21:52:04 | rasher | but it was quite simple |
| 21:52:31 | rasher | it was just mpa2wav modified to call rb->adc_read(2); once in each loop |
| 21:52:39 | rasher | adc_read had to be added in plugin.h/c |
| 21:52:44 | markun | ok |
| 21:52:55 | rasher | that's all |
| 21:53:18 | rasher | The only real work was waiting for the tests to run |
| 21:53:31 | rasher | My oh my, this centerscrolling is nice |
| 21:53:59 | rasher | make it an option and you have a winner |
| 21:54:55 | preglow | markun: rockbox has a battery capacity setting |
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| 21:55:32 | rasher | oh right |
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| 21:56:08 | rasher | general settings > system > battery |
| 21:56:44 | markun | ok, I changed it. |
| 21:58:36 | markun | The info now shows 14h 28m. Is that mp3 playtime or just idle time? |
| 21:59:12 | amiconn | It's an estimation of the expected playtime |
| 21:59:31 | amiconn | Probably not very exact on iriver yet |
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| 22:00:04 | markun | And also doesn't take into account what codec you use. |
| 22:00:14 | amiconn | It can't |
| 22:00:45 | amiconn | How would you predict what the user will play in the next usage hours? |
| 22:00:45 | markun | It could say ogg-playtime.. mp3-playtime, but maybe that's overkill. |
| 22:00:52 | amiconn | It is |
| 22:01:09 | amiconn | ...because it does not only depend on the codec, but on bitrate etc pp |
| 22:02:19 | * | austriancoder swichtes to linux |
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| 22:02:57 | markun | But the estimate is accurate on archos? |
| 22:03:47 | amiconn | Same problems on archos (apart from the codec type). Bitrate, layer2/layer3, possibly recording.... |
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| 22:04:26 | amiconn | It is an estimate, nothing more, and can't be |
| 22:05:11 | CoCoLUS | uhm |
| 22:05:18 | CoCoLUS | whats "center-scrolling"? :) |
| 22:06:06 | rasher | CoCoLUS: see this post: http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showpost.php?p=236372&postcount=700 |
| 22:06:21 | markun | The cursor stays in the center of the screen (unless you are at the top or the bottom of the list) |
| 22:07:01 | Stryke` | sounds nice |
| 22:10:06 | rasher | why, it is |
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| 22:14:05 | nobby-BRB | anyone awake/alive/online? |
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| 22:15:01 | rasher | Yes |
| 22:17:51 | amiconn | Seems I am on to something fishy.... |
| 22:18:22 | * | amiconn could need help from LinusN |
| 22:18:25 | rasher | related to what? |
| 22:18:36 | amiconn | Archos recording |
| 22:18:48 | rasher | ah, the garbage thing? |
| 22:19:22 | amiconn | I didn't get garbage in 50 hours of test recording now. |
| 22:19:52 | amiconn | However, I got the end-of-long-recording-written-at-start-of-file 3 times now |
| 22:20:23 | amiconn | ...even without disk full. Simply time splitting at 10 hour boudary caused that in 3 of 5 runs now |
| 22:23:21 | Plugh_ | is it the MAS garble bug? |
| 22:23:32 | amiconn | nope |
| 22:24:15 | amiconn | As I said, I didn't get any garbage in a total of 50 recording hours |
| 22:26:00 | Plugh_ | I've recorded 15 hours at a stretch and got MAS garble |
| 22:26:14 | Plugh_ | but ran it through a couple fixers and it worked well enough |
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| 22:27:03 | amiconn | Plugh_: Did you try the latest daily build? |
| 22:27:26 | Plugh_ | amiconn: I don't do epic recording that often |
| 22:27:41 | amiconn | It has my new, alternate recording transfer. Seems to lower the probability of garbage quite a bit |
| 22:27:50 | Plugh_ | cool |
| 22:28:02 | Plugh_ | I'm gonna be recording in 2 weeks |
| 22:28:12 | Plugh_ | should be about 18 hours |
| 22:28:34 | Plugh_ | I use it for live recording off a mixer board |
| 22:29:07 | Plugh_ | which in general is fine, till the DJ starts fucking with knobs/levels |
| 22:29:12 | amiconn | My plan ist to try all possible combinations of quality, channels etc. Will take some time |
| 22:29:35 | amiconn | ...recording 10 hours at each setting |
| 22:30:46 | rasher | makes my battery-testing look like a walk in the park |
| 22:31:18 | amiconn | My estimation is something about half a year in total, doing 2 tests per day |
| 22:32:12 | Plugh_ | that's intense |
| 22:32:40 | rasher | blimey |
| 22:32:41 | Plugh_ | white noise? |
| 22:32:54 | amiconn | No, real audio source |
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| 22:33:12 | Aditya | why dont you let a bunch of people do the testin |
| 22:33:13 | Aditya | ? |
| 22:33:19 | ScHlAuChi | hi |
| 22:33:24 | amiconn | For 48 kHz I'm using a dvd with music, set to repeat the track over and over. Recording from S/PDIF |
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| 22:42:09 | ScHlAuChi | i have a short question - but can a rockboxed flashed player act as USB server? (to make it possible that other USB devices can usw it as data storage) |
| 22:42:19 | Plugh_ | nope |
| 22:42:31 | Plugh_ | the USB chip doesn't support host mode |
| 22:42:53 | Plugh_ | you can buy an adapter |
| 22:43:00 | ScHlAuChi | have a link ? |
| 22:43:14 | Plugh_ | not handy. Search the mail list archive |
| 22:44:03 | ScHlAuChi | so in case the other device can do the "host" mode it could work |
| 22:44:19 | ScHlAuChi | i want to connect a PSP with my iriver to use it as data storage |
| 22:44:57 | nobby | O_o |
| 22:44:59 | nobby | can you do that? |
| 22:45:09 | ScHlAuChi | i have no idea |
| 22:45:09 | nobby | maybe with an h340? |
| 22:45:18 | ScHlAuChi | i have a iHP140 |
| 22:45:28 | nobby | ihp cant act |
| 22:45:33 | nobby | *act as host |
| 22:45:39 | nobby | if the PSP could, that'd work |
| 22:45:48 | nobby | transfer stuff you want to play to iriver |
| 22:45:59 | nobby | then disconnect and play |
| 22:46:05 | Plugh_ | umm, there was some device that operated in host mode. Thought it was iriver, but I don't recall |
| 22:46:14 | nobby | why not just use the PSP's player functions? |
| 22:46:26 | nobby | iriver H320 and H340 do |
| 22:46:33 | nobby | host, that is |
| 22:46:34 | Plugh_ | ahh |
| 22:46:37 | Plugh_ | cool |
| 22:46:42 | ScHlAuChi | actually i was thinking about using the iriver as kind of portable harddrive |
| 22:46:58 | Plugh_ | ScHlAuChi: get a 320 or better |
| 22:47:10 | ScHlAuChi | nope unfortunately not |
| 22:47:37 | Plugh_ | http://tinyurl.com/ak4f7 |
| 22:47:37 | ScHlAuChi | but maybe the PSP supports the host mode |
| 22:47:41 | Plugh_ | http://www.iriver.com/html/support/faq/sufq_view.asp?searchProductIdx=&searchString=USB+host&page=1&idx=292&tmpSearchProductIdx=&tmpSearchString= |
| 22:47:55 | rasher | h320/340 does host mode |
| 22:48:21 | nobby | thats what *I* said :P |
| 22:48:26 | ScHlAuChi | i think those are the newer ones |
| 22:48:30 | nobby | they are |
| 22:48:34 | nobby | color screen and stuff |
| 22:48:46 | nobby | "H300 purchased in the north America doesn't have this function." |
| 22:48:50 | ScHlAuChi | http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/images/products/ihp-140/ihp-140large.jpg |
| 22:48:56 | ScHlAuChi | thats the one i have |
| 22:49:03 | nobby | i also have that one |
| 22:49:12 | nobby | minus some chipped off paint here and there |
| 22:49:13 | nobby | :P |
| 22:49:18 | nobby | it cant host |
| 22:49:31 | ScHlAuChi | oh well maybe the PSP can do ;) |
| 22:49:43 | nobby | maybe |
| 22:49:47 | ScHlAuChi | as the PSPs with 1.0 firware support homewbrew applications |
| 22:49:49 | nobby | go ask in #psp or something |
| 22:49:59 | nobby | hey, cool #psp exists :P |
| 22:51:29 | ScHlAuChi | well even if the PSP doesnt - there might be still some kind of adapter or something that supports that |
| 22:55:26 | Plugh_ | I wonder what the recording time is like on an iriver ifp-899 |
| 22:55:39 | ScHlAuChi | anyway - thx for the information :) |
| 22:56:36 | Plugh_ | I'd love to have something that small for one-night club gig recording |
| 22:57:18 | ScHlAuChi | one of the things im looking foward to in a future rockbox version is tracker support - playing Mods on a portable player is just too great |
| 22:57:35 | Plugh_ | erm, if you say so. LOL |
| 22:58:11 | ScHlAuChi | well thats what it says on the rockbox page under planned format-support |
| 22:58:33 | Plugh_ | I know what it says. I just question the wisdom |
| 22:59:11 | rasher | It's an absolutely great idea |
| 22:59:25 | ScHlAuChi | Plugh_: i guess you dont know scenemusic.org ;) |
| 22:59:48 | ScHlAuChi | there are ALOT of people liking that kind of oldschool music |
| 22:59:52 | * | rasher is more looking forward to sid support |
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| 23:00:08 | Plugh_ | I used to like it too, until mp3 hit the scene |
| 23:00:54 | ScHlAuChi | why not anymore then - youre more of an audiophile ? ;) |
| 23:01:07 | ScHlAuChi | sounds too ugly for todays standards ? ;) |
| 23:02:12 | preglow | some time ago i actually contemplated making a portable with a sid chip inside :P |
| 23:02:39 | Plugh_ | http://www.sidstation.com/ |
| 23:02:44 | preglow | i have that |
| 23:02:54 | Plugh_ | it's badass |
| 23:02:57 | preglow | word |
| 23:03:05 | rasher | preglow: If you ever manage to put one inside a cellphone for ringtones, notify me and I'll buy one |
| 23:03:13 | Plugh_ | hehe |
| 23:03:20 | preglow | ooo, that would rock |
| 23:03:28 | preglow | wild arpeggios for a ringtone |
| 23:03:32 | preglow | i'd never answer it |
| 23:03:34 | ScHlAuChi | rasher: on scenemusic.org you can download a few classic tunes as ringtones |
| 23:03:38 | rasher | It'd be so much better than these horrible midi things |
| 23:04:06 | rasher | ScHlAuChi: it'll still be horrible synth |
| 23:04:16 | ScHlAuChi | well better than nothing i guess;) |
| 23:04:27 | rasher | I already have some anyway |
| 23:04:44 | ScHlAuChi | i dont have a cell so i dont need those,) |
| 23:04:48 | rasher | but thanks for the tip |
| 23:05:19 | rasher | ah, it's nectarine! |
| 23:05:23 | ScHlAuChi | of course |
| 23:05:30 | rasher | didn't know that was scenemusic.org as well |
| 23:05:39 | ScHlAuChi | its the same |
| 23:06:06 | ScHlAuChi | but the irc channel is also #scenemusic i think |
| 23:06:35 | ScHlAuChi | on ircnet tho |
| 23:08:13 | rasher | where are these ringtones |
| 23:08:27 | Plugh_ | ScHlAuChi: mod music was good when midi was the only other thing we had |
| 23:08:51 | Plugh_ | was nice to have a tracker format with integral samples |
| 23:09:03 | rasher | I don't think you can compare mp3 and mod.. part of the charm is that it's limited |
| 23:09:06 | Plugh_ | but the sample frequency was a bit low |
| 23:09:11 | ScHlAuChi | http://forums.scenemusic.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=736&get=last is the only thing i found |
| 23:09:17 | ScHlAuChi | but there was a link on the main site a while ago |
| 23:09:28 | Plugh_ | I'm not charmed by limits |
| 23:10:17 | ScHlAuChi | well the reason why people still like it might be nostalgica |
| 23:10:19 | | Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) |
| 23:10:35 | ScHlAuChi | but there are mods that really had fantastic melodies |
| 23:10:51 | Plugh_ | I can be nostalgic about things that have not been supplanted with better quality |
| 23:11:10 | preglow | i can be nostaligic about most things |
| 23:11:13 | Plugh_ | if I had a fruity loops player, I might be a little more excited |
| 23:11:16 | preglow | but technically inferior music especially :P |
| 23:11:42 | rasher | Well I am charmed by limits, recognising what hell the authors had to go through to create what I'm listening to |
| 23:11:42 | ScHlAuChi | only in music or also in games? |
| 23:11:43 | Plugh_ | or reason |
| 23:11:45 | Plugh_ | mmm reason |
| 23:11:49 | preglow | i love limits |
| 23:12:02 | preglow | i think they're essential to be able to create easier |
| 23:12:12 | preglow | and better |
| 23:12:24 | | Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) |
| 23:12:25 | preglow | you tend to focus more when you don't have any limits |
| 23:12:32 | preglow | THAN when you don't have any limits |
| 23:12:54 | Aditya | err |
| 23:13:00 | Aditya | that made no sense preglow lol |
| 23:13:08 | preglow | i seldom do |
| 23:13:13 | ze | "you tend to focus more than when you don't have any limits" |
| 23:13:15 | ze | makes sense to me |
| 23:13:34 | Aditya | he said "don't have limits" both times |
| 23:13:49 | preglow | i know |
| 23:14:01 | ze | Aditya: he missed the 'than' the 1st time |
| 23:14:03 | preglow | it's supposed to be like that ;) |
| 23:14:21 | preglow | i, at least, focus better when i have limits |
| 23:14:25 | preglow | i learn to use what i have better |
| 23:14:31 | ze | i think the challenge is part of the creative process |
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| 23:14:41 | preglow | the people who use sid chips are undisputable proof of this, they do amazing things with the little buggers |
| 23:14:49 | ze | yeah |
| 23:15:03 | ze | sometimes you have to listen really carefully to tell that there's only 3 voices going at any given time |
| 23:15:16 | Aditya | heh |
| 23:15:22 | Aditya | I work best when the deadline is about 2 hours away |
| 23:15:29 | rasher | and yet they manage to sound like an entire band |
| 23:19:17 | ScHlAuChi | i really like remixes of classic sids and mods - remix.kwed.org - or amigaremix.com |
| 23:19:32 | ScHlAuChi | tho even if they might be technically better - the originals just have a different feeling |
| 23:19:59 | | Join Biperooski [0] (~d92ba1c0@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:20:25 | Biperooski | Hello people how are you all, how is the project coming along |
| 23:20:34 | Biperooski | Hopefully all swimmingly |
| 23:20:42 | preglow | oh, we're fine |
| 23:21:07 | preglow | got up, scratched my nuts, had breakfast, heard a couple of mp3s realtime on my rockbox, had a beer |
| 23:21:11 | preglow | nothing special |
| 23:21:47 | Biperooski | You have MP3 ability now ? |
| 23:22:00 | rasher | good catch |
| 23:22:27 | Biperooski | You have nuts aswell now ? |
| 23:22:32 | preglow | why, i have two |
| 23:22:49 | preglow | Slasheri made a hack that has mpa2wav play audio |
| 23:22:58 | preglow | so we can at least demo the capability now |
| 23:23:04 | Biperooski | Nice |
| 23:23:10 | Biperooski | Is the radio coming along ? |
| 23:23:10 | preglow | i agree |
| 23:23:14 | preglow | i have no idea |
| 23:23:20 | preglow | wasn't austriancoder working on that? |
| 23:23:26 | preglow | or is my memory failing me? |
| 23:23:34 | rasher | he was |
| 23:23:48 | Biperooski | Cant trust an austrian tho can yer |
| 23:23:55 | ScHlAuChi | hmm this might be a stupid question - but wouldnt it be possible to use the radio tuner in some players to get the time ? |
| 23:24:00 | preglow | how? |
| 23:24:01 | ScHlAuChi | so the iriver could also be used as clock |
| 23:24:20 | Biperooski | No |
| 23:24:24 | preglow | how can that be possible? |
| 23:24:26 | Biperooski | It doesnt have the right chip |
| 23:24:36 | ScHlAuChi | ah i see - im no technican :P |
| 23:24:37 | Bagder | if it did RDS it could |
| 23:24:47 | Bagder | I believe |
| 23:24:53 | Bagder | but it doesn't |
| 23:24:56 | * | amiconn notices Bagder |
| 23:24:58 | preglow | well, yeah, but we can't even tune in to those bands, afaik |
| 23:25:06 | Biperooski | Would it be possible to solder the chip in ? |
| 23:25:16 | preglow | it's always possible to modify the hardware |
| 23:25:25 | preglow | but it's not going to be easy, i guess |
| 23:25:30 | amiconn | Bagder: I am currently trying to understand the mpeg thread. It's a monster :/ |
| 23:25:34 | Biperooski | Lets go for it then, i want a intel P4 3.2ghz prescott |
| 23:25:38 | Bagder | amiconn: I agree |
| 23:25:53 | preglow | Biperooski: you'll need an extension board then.... |
| 23:25:59 | amiconn | Iirc Linus wrote most of mpeg.c? |
| 23:26:12 | Bagder | yeps |
| 23:26:17 | preglow | Biperooski: if a 0.5x0.5metre addon card sounds good, i'll have it done within the year a "modest" sum |
| 23:26:27 | preglow | fora |
| 23:26:36 | Biperooski | How much ? |
| 23:26:50 | amiconn | I could really need some help from Linus... |
| 23:26:53 | Biperooski | $$$ |
| 23:27:02 | Biperooski | Linus is a god among men |
| 23:27:04 | preglow | a million billion pounds¤! |
| 23:27:23 | Biperooski | thats a little steep |
| 23:27:32 | amiconn | Something fishy's going on, and I don't get it. Apart from that, I found 2 other questionable places.... |
| 23:27:43 | Biperooski | eww |
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| 23:30:20 | preglow | what's the mpeg thread do? supply the mas with mpeg data? |
| 23:30:30 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:30:54 | preglow | does the mas eat mpeg frames straight? no need to decode them in any way? |
| 23:31:04 | amiconn | yup |
| 23:31:16 | Bagder | well the data need to be bitswapped |
| 23:31:20 | preglow | hahaha |
| 23:31:23 | amiconn | Only thing to do is filter out non-mpeg data, like id3 headers and stuff |
| 23:31:23 | preglow | that still makes me laugh |
| 23:32:01 | amiconn | The bitswap isn't a mas problem, just the SH1 spi spits out the bits in the wrong order |
| 23:32:02 | Bagder | silly it is, indeed |
| 23:32:30 | Biperooski | I had my 1st driving lesson today |
| 23:32:39 | amiconn | SH2 and up allow switching the bit order... |
| 23:33:15 | amiconn | preglow: Even more 'fun' on Ondio. There the mpeg data gets bitswapped twice |
| 23:33:44 | amiconn | ...once when reading the MMC (via SPI), and again when fed to the MAS (also via SPI) |
| 23:34:04 | preglow | Biperooski: congrats |
| 23:34:26 | preglow | amiconn: so it has to be _bit_ swapped, not endian swapped? |
| 23:34:35 | amiconn | bitswapped |
| 23:34:41 | preglow | ahh, that's worse |
| 23:34:46 | preglow | can't fix that by wiring |
| 23:34:49 | amiconn | Endian swap is necessary for ata access |
| 23:36:46 | preglow | endian swap they should have fixed with wiring |
| 23:36:52 | * | rasher installs cygwin |
| 23:36:58 | | Part nobby |
| 23:40:48 | rasher | amiconn: am I right in thinking that I have to compile binutils and gcc myself? (ie. not using http://lassauge.free.fr/cygwin/) |
| 23:41:49 | Bagder | rasher: I think you could go with prebuilt |
| 23:41:56 | Bagder | if you find binutils 2.16 |
| 23:42:05 | Biperooski | goodbye my good people, take care and dont brake any fingers |
| 23:42:14 | | Quit ScHlAuChi ("bye") |
| 23:42:18 | | Quit Biperooski ("CGI:IRC") |
| 23:42:25 | Bagder | for coldfire that is |
| 23:43:40 | rasher | and 3.4.x m68k-elf-gcc |
| 23:43:54 | Bagder | yeps |
| 23:44:33 | | Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") |
| 23:46:25 | | Join rasher [0] (rasher@zork.zork.net) |
| 23:46:54 | amiconn | rasher: For archos you can use the prebuilt packages, for iriver you have to build yourself |
| 23:47:18 | amiconn | (or use the Bluechip's devkit) |
| 23:47:42 | Bagder | why? |
| 23:47:54 | Bagder | what's the prob with the prebuilt ones? |
| 23:48:07 | amiconn | Last time I looked Eric only had binutils 2.15 and gcc 3.3.5 |
| 23:48:08 | rasher | Maybe they're not 2.15 or 3.4.x? |
| 23:48:21 | Bagder | ok |
| 23:48:26 | Bagder | 2.16 |
| 23:48:47 | rasher | 2.16, right |
| 23:49:13 | amiconn | Reminds me - I'll have to build the coldfire toolchain soon |
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| 23:54:07 | rasher | hrm, trying to crosscompile the windows sim.. can that be done from linux? |
| 23:54:22 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:54:36 | rasher | /home/rasher/rockbox/build-env/src/rockbox/apps/plugin.c:546: undefined reference to `_audiobuffer_insert' |
| 23:54:37 | Bagder | apt-get install mingw32 |
| 23:54:43 | rasher | I have that |
| 23:54:54 | rasher | I built the fwpatcher fine |
| 23:55:23 | * | Bagder tries |
| 23:56:04 | Bagder | 546? |
| 23:56:17 | Bagder | I have 545 lines in my plugin.c |
| 23:56:28 | rasher | interesting |
| 23:56:44 | rasher | ah |
| 23:56:49 | amiconn | rasher: mp3 playback patch? |
| 23:56:51 | rasher | that'd be the audio output hack |
| 23:56:52 | rasher | yes |
| 23:57:08 | * | rasher reverses that |
| 23:57:23 | Bagder | "cvs diff -u | patch -R -p0" :-) |
| 23:58:19 | rasher | that helped |
| 23:58:43 | preglow | i always keep my patches |
| 23:58:48 | preglow | but that was a pretty good trick, bagder |
| 23:58:56 | Bagder | I use that a lot |
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