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| 00:10:16 | rasher | Evening |
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| 00:20:10 | rasher | strange.. running the windows sim under wine, I can't hit "." |
| 00:34:04 | austriancoder | i cant build the x11 sim :( |
| 00:37:02 | rasher | I just did, what's wrong? |
| 00:38:34 | austriancoder | ah.. now it workd |
| 00:38:36 | austriancoder | works |
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| 00:39:33 | austriancoder | hmm.. ok got one |
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| 00:40:01 | austriancoder | http://nopaste.php-q.net/137501 |
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| 00:42:52 | austriancoder | OT: does anybody knows a site with romatic sayings |
| 00:42:52 | rasher | weird |
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| 00:59:31 | austriancoder | is enum part of c or is it part of c++? |
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| 01:00:33 | preglow | c |
| 01:01:17 | austriancoder | thanks |
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| 07:11:00 | Shagnar | hi guys |
| 07:11:15 | Shagnar | Slasheri did you release a patch with playback? |
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| 07:22:17 | ashridah | no, he didn't. |
| 07:22:20 | ashridah | nothing to see here |
| 07:22:26 | * | ashridah nods |
| 07:22:46 | ashridah | in reality, anything he's been posting has been incredibly experimental |
| 07:25:39 | ashridah | unless you feel like cracking open your player, making a bdm or porting gdb to it so you can use that over serial, it won't do you much good |
| 07:29:58 | ashridah | judging by the logs, he's still got some glitching to work out |
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| 07:34:47 | LinusN | hi |
| 07:44:20 | Shagnar | ashridah ah okay :) |
| 07:44:38 | Shagnar | well, school now... till later ;) |
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| 08:19:21 | amiconn | mornin' |
| 08:21:49 | LinusN | morning |
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| 08:30:40 | amiconn | LinusN: It seems that I found the cause for the overwritten beginning of a recording in some cases. |
| 08:30:53 | LinusN | great, what was it |
| 08:30:54 | LinusN | ? |
| 08:31:15 | amiconn | Sometimes the very first write() to the recfile takes so long that the recording buffer wraps meanwhile |
| 08:31:28 | LinusN | ok |
| 08:31:48 | amiconn | I'm not sure yet why that happens, the write() took 30 sec in one case... |
| 08:31:57 | LinusN | and that happens if the first write is small, but it has to spin up? |
| 08:32:17 | LinusN | 30 secs???? |
| 08:32:21 | LinusN | wow |
| 08:32:29 | amiconn | No. I only tested without prerecording, so the first write is rather large, ~1.3 MB |
| 08:32:41 | amiconn | (buffer size minus watermark) |
| 08:32:55 | LinusN | ah, the *very first* write |
| 08:33:26 | amiconn | I suspect this to be the search for a free cluster, but I'm puzzled why |
| 08:34:00 | LinusN | or it could be the open() |
| 08:34:14 | amiconn | (1) Iirc, this would happen at mount if fsinfo is undefined, judging from the boot delay some users observed on iriver |
| 08:34:26 | amiconn | No, it's not the open(), it's the write() |
| 08:34:40 | LinusN | ok, so the file is already opened |
| 08:35:14 | amiconn | (2) Scanning the whole disk from the debug menu takes 38 seconds here, so I wonder what causes the search to take almost the same time |
| 08:35:32 | amiconn | My HD is filled ~35% |
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| 08:35:57 | amiconn | I guess it's time to do some logf() debugging... |
| 08:36:11 | LinusN | amiconn: you could try to invalidate fsinfo and see if it happens |
| 08:36:26 | amiconn | Currently I do some debug output to the bottom line in the recording screen |
| 08:36:37 | LinusN | amiconn: you don't have gdb? |
| 08:36:59 | amiconn | No serial mod on my recorder |
| 08:37:04 | LinusN | aha |
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| 08:38:02 | LinusN | i would start with patching the fat driver to not read the fsinfo, forcing a full free cluster search |
| 08:40:29 | amiconn | I have reworked the mpeg thread's recording part. It now correctly flushes when the watermark is reached. It also flushes in chunks on 8 MB units and Ondio, same chunk sizes as for loading |
| 08:41:18 | amiconn | This allows flushing a bit more than doing it in one piece as the write pointer advances while the flush is in progress |
| 08:42:08 | amiconn | It also saves > 200 bytes of code, only saving in one place |
| 08:42:12 | LinusN | good |
| 08:42:28 | LinusN | but the first-write problem is still there |
| 08:42:54 | amiconn | I was wrong about one problem. The file is closed when a disk-full condition occurs, only it is non-obvious |
| 08:43:04 | LinusN | chunks of 8MB? |
| 08:43:12 | amiconn | haha, no |
| 08:43:25 | amiconn | 'on 8 MB units' |
| 08:43:36 | LinusN | ah |
| 08:43:45 | amiconn | The chunks are 1 MB for those, and 256 KB on Ondio |
| 08:44:02 | LinusN | ack |
| 08:44:40 | amiconn | I did not yet dig for the frame split problem |
| 08:45:30 | amiconn | Btw, the 'data' parameter in the queues is sometimes useful :) |
| 08:45:46 | amiconn | s/queues/queue events/ |
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| 08:47:33 | LinusN | morning B4gder |
| 08:47:47 | B4gder | morning |
| 08:59:06 | t0mas | morning all |
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| 09:13:48 | Slasheri | hi :) |
| 09:14:23 | Slasheri | got glitches fixed from mp3 stream. That was pretty hard because the libmad buffer feeding structure is so strange |
| 09:14:42 | ashridah | nice. |
| 09:14:59 | * | ashridah hands Slasheri the cookie of success |
| 09:15:06 | t0mas | chinease? :P |
| 09:15:22 | LinusN | Slasheri: my eternal question - can i see the code? :-) |
| 09:15:33 | Slasheri | LinusN: very soon :) |
| 09:15:41 | LinusN | thanks |
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| 09:19:10 | bobTHC | mornin' folks ! |
| 09:19:50 | textchimp | i was wondering, will it be possible when recording to start recording to a new file on the fly, without losing any data? or do buffer sizes prevent it or something? |
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| 09:22:09 | LinusN | textchimp: yes it is possible |
| 09:22:17 | QT | hi |
| 09:22:52 | LinusN | textchimp: basically, everything that is in the rockbox manual today will work on the iriver as well |
| 09:23:05 | LinusN | provided the hardware allows it |
| 09:23:41 | QT | btw, how far away is MP3 playback on iRiver? |
| 09:24:06 | Slasheri | QT: it's working, not totally gapless at the moment |
| 09:24:20 | textchimp | linusN: that function is in the rockbox manual now? |
| 09:24:30 | QT | i guess no iriver user is used to listen to gapless playback ;) |
| 09:24:40 | LinusN | textchimp: yes |
| 09:24:46 | textchimp | nice |
| 09:24:57 | QT | Slasheri: would say the port is ready for being installed on a n00b's player? |
| 09:25:02 | t0mas | no |
| 09:25:11 | t0mas | Slasheri's code is a hack... |
| 09:25:27 | t0mas | we still need an audio api sometime... and a lot of other things have to be changed... |
| 09:25:29 | QT | i see. then i rather wait some more days/months/whatever_it_takes |
| 09:25:29 | Slasheri | absolutely not, the code is still experimental/testing only |
| 09:25:43 | Slasheri | t0mas: there is simple api already |
| 09:26:05 | t0mas | LinusN's or yours? |
| 09:26:06 | QT | i was reading that some folks from MisticRiver have installed the port already |
| 09:26:19 | * | LinusN can't understand why the word "API" has such a magical meaning |
| 09:26:24 | t0mas | QT: lots of people have... |
| 09:26:37 | t0mas | LinusN: because it has been the point to wait for for a long time ;) |
| 09:26:56 | preglow | haha |
| 09:26:58 | preglow | this is the audio api |
| 09:27:21 | LinusN | t0mas: we have not been waiting for an API, we have been waiting for some code to be written |
| 09:27:49 | LinusN | i couldn't care less about the actual api |
| 09:31:19 | preglow | hmm |
| 09:31:27 | preglow | threads don't save the accumulator state, no? |
| 09:31:36 | preglow | no, they don't |
| 09:33:51 | LinusN | the MAC is not preserved |
| 09:34:01 | preglow | we might want to save the macsr |
| 09:34:10 | preglow | the accumulators are less important |
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| 09:34:13 | LinusN | we do? |
| 09:34:28 | preglow | since they should always be cleared after we're done with them |
| 09:34:42 | LinusN | why save macsr? |
| 09:34:56 | preglow | LinusN: well, yeah, either do it there, or demand all the code reverts macsr to the state is was in when they found it |
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| 09:35:29 | LinusN | preglow: i don't get it |
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| 09:35:44 | preglow | to more easily be able to use MUL(x, y)-like macros with the emac unit without worrying about some other thread having set the emac unit to some freak mode |
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| 09:36:02 | LinusN | preglow: i see |
| 09:36:28 | preglow | LinusN: more or less all the codecs have these macros, and doing a macsr set in the macro would be pretty wasteful |
| 09:36:41 | LinusN | saving it won't solve the problem, would it? |
| 09:36:59 | preglow | no, not really :> |
| 09:37:37 | preglow | i think we'd need to require a default emac mode or something |
| 09:38:05 | LinusN | or you have to set macsr before starting your calculations |
| 09:38:18 | preglow | yeah, but that'd require manually doing so in every routine |
| 09:38:31 | LinusN | in every routine? why? |
| 09:39:04 | preglow | well, you never know where/when macsr will be reset |
| 09:39:09 | preglow | and these MUL macros are spread all over the place |
| 09:39:10 | LinusN | yes you do |
| 09:39:16 | LinusN | you know very well |
| 09:39:31 | preglow | after a code grep, yes :P |
| 09:39:54 | LinusN | as soon as you return from a yield, you have to reinit the mac |
| 09:40:12 | preglow | this won't be that much of a problem, really, most code should use the fractional mode, only permanent exception i can think of is libflac |
| 09:40:26 | preglow | hmm |
| 09:41:04 | preglow | well sure, but then the codec plugin will have to assume how its underlying library does its calculations |
| 09:41:19 | LinusN | yes |
| 09:41:29 | preglow | but well, yeah, like i said, fractional mode should be what everyone wants |
| 09:41:54 | preglow | but ok, i'll commit some code from david bryant now |
| 09:42:02 | LinusN | splendid |
| 09:43:06 | tvelocity | goodmorning people... |
| 09:43:55 | preglow | think i'll wait a couple of hours before i'll start calling it good |
| 09:44:51 | preglow | i wish this "summer" thing i've been hearing about kicked in soon |
| 09:49:23 | preglow | i'm reading wavpack at 450% realtime... |
| 09:49:35 | preglow | this has got to be wrong |
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| 09:53:08 | bobTHC | preglow > @120Mhz ? |
| 09:56:37 | preglow | yea |
| 09:58:52 | bobTHC | so it will be possible to reach 100%@48 |
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| 10:01:53 | preglow | it already is well above 100% at 48mhz |
| 10:02:06 | preglow | even with disk writing |
| 10:02:43 | textchimp | will vorbis still eat more battery than mp3, as it did with iriver firmware? |
| 10:03:16 | LinusN | textchimp: probably |
| 10:03:42 | textchimp | dang |
| 10:03:46 | preglow | oh yes |
| 10:03:51 | preglow | not much doubt about that |
| 10:04:36 | preglow | vorbis has no static codec model, so needs to access memory quite a lot |
| 10:05:15 | Slasheri | http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/ |
| 10:05:46 | Slasheri | You can test it if you really want to, i don't guarantee that it will work at all :) |
| 10:05:49 | * | preglow grabs |
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| 10:08:54 | LinusN | Slasheri: i'll have a look at it in a while |
| 10:09:22 | Slasheri | LinusN: ok, great :) however, not much has been changed |
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| 10:15:59 | preglow | works like a charm |
| 10:16:09 | preglow | didn't you mention being able to navigate while playing? |
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| 10:16:52 | Slasheri | Hmm, the navigation is not possible until wps has been correctly integrated. I don't know how to do that |
| 10:17:01 | preglow | okies |
| 10:17:02 | preglow | i think i've bugged it, btw :P |
| 10:17:04 | Slasheri | But you can browse the other menus still |
| 10:17:06 | preglow | it refuses to play any more sound |
| 10:17:11 | Slasheri | :D |
| 10:17:23 | Slasheri | Yes, if you stop playback, you have to restart rockbox.. |
| 10:17:30 | preglow | ahhh |
| 10:17:32 | preglow | that explains it |
| 10:17:32 | Slasheri | I don't know why is that required |
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| 10:23:18 | preglow | well, it most certainly seems to work like a charm |
| 10:24:35 | Slasheri | that's great :) but there are still some issues with the buffer handling you might encounter |
| 10:25:01 | preglow | sure, i'm not exactly expecting perfect functionality yet |
| 10:25:20 | Slasheri | :) |
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| 10:30:06 | preglow | gapless playback works like a friggin charm |
| 10:30:25 | tvelocity | any binaries?:P |
| 10:30:48 | preglow | naw |
| 10:30:57 | preglow | i don't think you want binaries of something that needs a restart for every file :P |
| 10:31:11 | preglow | good things come to those who wait |
| 10:31:13 | preglow | sometimes |
| 10:31:18 | crashd_ | or |
| 10:31:22 | crashd_ | just a smack in the mouth ;] |
| 10:31:31 | tvelocity | sure i want |
| 10:31:41 | tvelocity | i'm exceptionaly curious:P |
| 10:34:38 | tvelocity | well anyway, i'll compile it and see for my self:P |
| 10:40:19 | * | LinusN added some rockbox kernel docs in the wiki: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxKernel |
| 10:41:19 | preglow | excellent |
| 10:42:04 | Slasheri | oh, that's very useful. Especially new people should find it much easier to start programming with rockbox |
| 10:42:23 | preglow | i still don't know much of rockbox's internals :> |
| 10:42:28 | amiconn | LinusN: Any thoughts about the nested mutex() calls yet? |
| 10:43:28 | LinusN | "just do it" |
| 10:44:04 | LinusN | i think tracking mutex ownership would be a Good Thing |
| 10:44:20 | LinusN | and would be a nice addition in the OS debug menu |
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| 10:47:44 | amiconn | How do you think this should be handled in the debug menu? Currently there is no list of mutexes... |
| 10:48:19 | LinusN | do like queue_init() does |
| 10:49:33 | LinusN | and create a mutex_owner() function or something |
| 10:50:03 | LinusN | whatever |
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| 11:02:34 | amiconn | LinusN: Your example for ev.data in RockboxKernel is not true. The button driver always sets it to NULL |
| 11:03:06 | LinusN | silly me |
| 11:03:16 | bobTHC | :) |
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| 11:08:48 | preglow | but now we're starting to get somewhere in the codec department |
| 11:08:51 | preglow | four realtime codecs |
| 11:09:17 | ashridah | isn't vorbis only realtime at 120MHz? |
| 11:09:25 | ashridah | isn't that a tad high? |
| 11:09:39 | preglow | we'll be running at 120mhz when decoding anyway :P |
| 11:09:54 | preglow | i'm not saying they'll be stuck at the state they're in |
| 11:10:11 | preglow | i'm saying you can use them to play music realtime |
| 11:10:12 | ashridah | but doesn't decoding require starting up the disk? |
| 11:10:16 | preglow | feel free to further optimise |
| 11:10:40 | preglow | why, yes, if the tracks aren't loaded, why does that matter? |
| 11:10:45 | * | preglow vanishes for a biy |
| 11:10:53 | ashridah | well, that's the highest heat output then :) |
| 11:11:16 | ashridah | i suppose if it's only doing it to fill the buffer, that wouldn't necessarily be a disaster... |
| 11:11:47 | ashridah | since it could potentially be idle with the disk off for much of the time. |
| 11:11:56 | ashridah | (well, idle+decoding) |
| 11:16:14 | LinusN | the disk heat issue was only a problem at 140MHz |
| 11:16:24 | LinusN | i haven't seen it at 120 |
| 11:16:48 | LinusN | besides, the disk will only spin up occasionally |
| 11:16:53 | ashridah | ah |
| 11:16:55 | bobTHC | OTF : i'm sure someone already give the link but : http://www.68k.org./~michael/audiofile/ |
| 11:17:00 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:17:13 | bobTHC | audiofile is written in C and support : AIFF/AIFF-C, WAVE, NeXT/Sun .snd/.au, Berkeley/IRCAM/CARL Sound File, Audio Visual Research, Amiga IFF/8SVX, and NIST SPHERE. Supported compression formats are currently G.711 mu-law and A-law and IMA and MS ADPCM. |
| 11:17:14 | ashridah | i thought you went down to 96 to keep it cool. |
| 11:17:18 | * | ashridah considers himself corrected |
| 11:20:20 | B4gder | bobthc: float float float... |
| 11:20:52 | bobTHC | :/ :/ :/ |
| 11:21:17 | | Quit jipi_ ("Leaving") |
| 11:21:17 | | Quit jipi ("Leaving") |
| 11:21:36 | preglow | what's the difference between that and libsndfile anyway? |
| 11:22:14 | bobTHC | The same calls for opening a file, accessing and manipulating audio metadata (e.g. sample rate, sample format, textual information, MIDI parameters), and reading/writing sample data will work with any supported audio file format. |
| 11:22:33 | LinusN | "supported" being the key here |
| 11:22:41 | bobTHC | :) |
| 11:22:57 | B4gder | audiofile and libsndfile seem pretty similar |
| 11:23:11 | LinusN | still, it's great to have some code to look at when we want to parse those formats |
| 11:23:26 | preglow | aye |
| 11:24:14 | preglow | i don't think very many of them will actually be of use |
| 11:24:31 | LinusN | me neither |
| 11:24:37 | preglow | like adpcm, ulaw, etc |
| 11:24:49 | B4gder | yeah |
| 11:24:50 | bobTHC | hehe, that's why it's interesting ;) |
| 11:25:27 | preglow | i try to keep all the audio i have in its original format, but in the case of those, i don't even have any original material in those formats |
| 11:25:37 | preglow | and audio in ulaw format i'd rather throw away than listen to anyway |
| 11:25:48 | B4gder | hahaha |
| 11:25:55 | bobTHC | lol |
| 11:26:07 | preglow | 8khz sampling frequency is "charming" |
| 11:26:53 | | Join Bumi [0] (~blabla@bzq-80-34-158.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 11:26:56 | Bumi | hey everyone |
| 11:27:03 | LinusN | hey |
| 11:27:03 | Bumi | anything new on the iriver rockbox project? |
| 11:27:03 | bobTHC | hi |
| 11:27:09 | Bumi | progress? |
| 11:27:13 | LinusN | Bumi: it has officially been cancelled |
| 11:27:19 | Bumi | :P |
| 11:27:20 | bobTHC | :) |
| 11:27:21 | Bumi | now realy |
| 11:27:25 | LinusN | nah |
| 11:27:29 | LinusN | kidding |
| 11:27:31 | Bumi | hey linusN |
| 11:27:34 | Bumi | good job BTW |
| 11:27:37 | Bumi | very good job |
| 11:27:54 | Bumi | HUGE thumbs up from me |
| 11:28:26 | B4gder | goodie, I'll tell my wife that and I'll get a few more hours in front of the computer :-P |
| 11:28:35 | Bumi | say, do you still need electrical stuff? |
| 11:28:43 | LinusN | Bumi: like...? |
| 11:28:43 | Bumi | logic analysers and such |
| 11:28:44 | Bumi | ? |
| 11:29:01 | LinusN | Bumi: you have some to spare? :-) |
| 11:29:10 | Bumi | well |
| 11:29:17 | Bumi | i actualy have one handy here |
| 11:29:32 | Bumi | but if it whold help i can do tests using it and such... |
| 11:29:40 | Bumi | i dont think its something i want to send |
| 11:29:41 | Bumi | :P |
| 11:30:12 | Bumi | has anyone here heard from ziv from the begining of the week? |
| 11:30:14 | Slasheri | I have also access to some HP logic analyzers, spectrum analyzer, 2 GHz RF scope etc. :) |
| 11:30:26 | LinusN | ziv? the hebrew guy? |
| 11:30:26 | Bumi | oh, ok |
| 11:30:30 | Bumi | yeap |
| 11:30:39 | LinusN | no, haven't heard from him |
| 11:31:02 | Bumi | he told me at the begining of the week he will have an updated version by the end of the week |
| 11:31:15 | Bumi | doas rockbox play MP3 allready? i mean actualy play it? |
| 11:31:20 | LinusN | sort of |
| 11:31:24 | LinusN | not officially |
| 11:31:33 | Bumi | what doas that mean? |
| 11:31:40 | LinusN | but Slasheri is working on it |
| 11:32:21 | Bumi | cool |
| 11:32:22 | Bumi | :D |
| 11:32:30 | Bumi | good luck Slasheri |
| 11:32:37 | Slasheri | thanks ;) |
| 11:32:41 | Bumi | what are all of you guyses perfesion? |
| 11:32:49 | Bumi | you all enginers? |
| 11:33:02 | Bumi | elecrical or software |
| 11:33:02 | * | B4gder is |
| 11:33:02 | Bumi | ? |
| 11:33:17 | Bumi | which kind? |
| 11:33:19 | B4gder | SW |
| 11:33:24 | preglow | electrical engineer here |
| 11:33:24 | Bumi | cool |
| 11:33:27 | * | LinusN is an embedded software engineer |
| 11:33:44 | Bumi | how did you become an emdedded software engineer? |
| 11:33:46 | Slasheri | still student only, but work experience much from embedded systems, fpgas etc. |
| 11:33:51 | bobTHC | and all this guys are wizard too, that's help ;) |
| 11:33:51 | Bumi | i mean is there such a degry? |
| 11:34:02 | * | B4gder has no degree |
| 11:34:06 | LinusN | Bumi: i hacked for years on my C64 and then i applied for a job |
| 11:34:21 | Bumi | C64? |
| 11:34:22 | Bumi | whats that? |
| 11:34:25 | bobTHC | lol |
| 11:34:26 | B4gder | haha |
| 11:34:28 | LinusN | commodore 64 |
| 11:34:28 | Bumi | comodor? |
| 11:34:31 | Bumi | yay |
| 11:34:41 | preglow | omfg! |
| 11:34:41 | Bumi | i pressed enter before you:D |
| 11:34:53 | preglow | ahh, i was afraid you hadn't heard of it |
| 11:34:53 | Bumi | how old are all of you? |
| 11:34:57 | preglow | in which case i would have to kill you |
| 11:35:01 | preglow | 32 |
| 11:35:01 | preglow | ehh |
| 11:35:02 | preglow | 23 |
| 11:35:02 | Bumi | :P |
| 11:35:02 | LinusN | 36 |
| 11:35:03 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK preglow |
| 11:35:03 | preglow | :) |
| 11:35:09 | Bumi | 19 |
| 11:35:10 | B4gder | I'm 22 |
| 11:35:11 | B4gder | hex |
| 11:35:18 | B4gder | :-) |
| 11:35:18 | Bumi | :P |
| 11:35:47 | Slasheri | 20 :) |
| 11:35:50 | LinusN | Bagder: you just advanced a step on the kick-o-meter |
| 11:36:03 | B4gder | only one? |
| 11:36:11 | Bager | preglow: about killing bumi: http://hitman.us/main.html |
| 11:36:47 | Bumi | :P |
| 11:36:53 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 11:36:53 | * | Bumi throws a keyboard at Bager |
| 11:36:57 | LinusN | "industry leader in innovative killing approaches" |
| 11:37:07 | preglow | now this is a web service that innovates |
| 11:37:08 | * | Bager hides |
| 11:37:11 | Bumi | watch out, am in the army :P |
| 11:37:21 | Bager | LinusN the best one is on the bottom of the page ... |
| 11:37:25 | LinusN | "HITMAN is a cruelty-free organization. None of our services have been tested on animals." |
| 11:37:33 | LinusN | lol |
| 11:37:36 | Bumi | LoL |
| 11:37:43 | Bager | :) |
| 11:38:28 | preglow | i'm surprised the americans haven't taken the site down yet |
| 11:38:40 | Bager | preglow i think that this is just a joke |
| 11:38:49 | Bager | see the contact form ... |
| 11:39:05 | preglow | Bager: of course it is |
| 11:39:16 | Bumi | http://hitman.us/fr_greatest_hits.html |
| 11:39:18 | ashridah | Bager: except that death threats aren't free speech. |
| 11:39:19 | preglow | Bager: but still, americans have no sense of humour |
| 11:39:38 | B4gder | 0xf00d |
| 11:40:00 | preglow | 4gr33d |
| 11:40:09 | Bager | heh |
| 11:40:58 | Bumi | well anyway |
| 11:41:06 | Bumi | am now learning to program for the army |
| 11:41:22 | Bumi | so i hope soon i will come back and cotribute back to my new firmware |
| 11:41:23 | Bumi | :D |
| 11:41:48 | Bager | haha <META name="ROBOTS" content="INDEX, FOLLOW"> |
| 11:42:03 | Bager | they definitely want to become famous |
| 11:42:05 | Bumi | ? |
| 11:42:18 | Bumi | ha? |
| 11:42:54 | bobTHC | lol |
| 11:43:13 | Bager | this tells to web robots to follow and index the whole site (hitman.us) |
| 11:43:35 | Bager | s/to/the |
| 11:44:00 | Bumi | say, did anyone check the battery life for the iriver with rockbox? |
| 11:44:02 | Bumi | :P |
| 11:44:06 | Bumi | i see you like programing |
| 11:44:09 | Bumi | :P |
| 11:44:13 | Bumi | Perl RULEZ |
| 11:44:13 | Bumi | :D |
| 11:44:18 | Bager | haha |
| 11:44:30 | Bager | this is sed command also ... |
| 11:44:37 | Bumi | yeap |
| 11:45:03 | Bumi | say, i want to build some kind of program that will control my router |
| 11:45:08 | Bumi | alcatel speedtouch pro |
| 11:45:11 | Bumi | via telnet |
| 11:45:22 | Bumi | since its web interface is shit |
| 11:45:41 | Bumi | can anyone point me somewhere to see how telnet realy works? |
| 11:45:51 | Bumi | i tryed to download a telnet activeX |
| 11:45:58 | Bumi | but it acts strange |
| 11:47:39 | Bager | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc854.html |
| 11:48:58 | Bager | http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winsock/winsock/socket_2.asp |
| 11:48:59 | Bumi | nice |
| 11:49:12 | bobTHC | telnet is just a remote shell |
| 11:49:23 | Bumi | for some reson alot of clients i found on the web dont like working with the router |
| 11:49:29 | Bumi | only the windows telnet |
| 11:49:32 | Bumi | and putty |
| 11:49:42 | Bumi | and hyperterminal |
| 11:49:56 | Bager | these are "plain" terminals |
| 11:49:59 | ashridah | so use putty |
| 11:50:07 | Bumi | well |
| 11:50:19 | Bumi | i want to use a program |
| 11:50:30 | Bumi | to run something like telnet scripts |
| 11:50:37 | LinusN | what exactly is it you want to do? |
| 11:50:38 | ashridah | ah |
| 11:50:40 | ashridah | use plink |
| 11:50:46 | Bumi | so i can map ports with a butten click |
| 11:50:51 | Bumi | and port ranges |
| 11:50:52 | ashridah | if you want to script stuff, you want expect and plink |
| 11:50:55 | ashridah | :) |
| 11:51:04 | Bumi | k |
| 11:51:11 | Bumi | but what if i want to make a GUI? |
| 11:51:33 | Bager | Bumi then see the links above .... |
| 11:51:37 | ashridah | then you do the expect part yourself, and still use plink. :) |
| 11:51:38 | Bumi | ok |
| 11:51:39 | Bumi | cool |
| 11:51:39 | Bumi | :D |
| 11:52:16 | Bumi | Plink (a command-line interface to the PuTTY back ends) |
| 11:52:18 | Bumi | ahhha |
| 11:52:18 | Bumi | :d |
| 11:52:22 | Bumi | :D |
| 11:52:28 | bobTHC | RTFM it's never a loose of time... |
| 11:52:48 | Bumi | http://expect.nist.gov/ |
| 11:53:03 | Bumi | is this what expect you talked about? |
| 11:54:18 | ashridah | yeah |
| 11:54:25 | ashridah | it's more for scripting purposes tho |
| 11:55:12 | ashridah | i'm not sure how you'd go about getting it working usefully in a gui |
| 11:55:41 | Bager | exec..() |
| 11:55:42 | Bager | heh |
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| 11:59:18 | Bumi | hmm i looked around plink |
| 11:59:29 | Bumi | but i dont understand whats the difrance between it |
| 11:59:32 | Bumi | and normal telnet |
| 12:00 |
| 12:01:04 | Lost-ash | it's basically something you can open and send input into/outof |
| 12:01:09 | Lost-ash | whereas putty is a gui |
| 12:01:23 | Lost-ash | plink's a tool that spits out stuff on stdout, and takes stuff on stdin |
| 12:01:47 | Bumi | well, cant the normal telnet client windows has do the same? |
| 12:03:19 | | Join ashridah__ [0] (ashridah@220-253-123-172.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 12:03:38 | Lost-ash | which is useful for scripts, or using it to connect to stuff via ssh and running stuff remotely, then getting the input back. (or, instead of ssh, telnet) |
| 12:03:38 | | Quit Lost-ash (Remote closed the connection) |
| 12:03:41 | ashridah__ | i am getting SERIOUSLY over this |
| 12:03:43 | | Quit ashridah (Nick collision from services.) |
| 12:03:55 | | Nick ashridah__ is now known as ashridah (ashridah@220-253-123-172.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 12:04:43 | Bumi | well |
| 12:04:55 | Bumi | windows telnet can do the same cant it? |
| 12:05:00 | Bumi | well not the SSH part |
| 12:05:06 | Bumi | but the rest... |
| 12:05:25 | ashridah | i don't believe windows' telnet will be completely silent |
| 12:05:38 | ashridah | i'm assuming, you're referring to a cmd.exe version, not a gui version |
| 12:05:48 | Bumi | yea... |
| 12:05:52 | Bumi | well anyway |
| 12:06:18 | Bumi | anyone know some nice ActiveX or cpp module that can hadle all the protocol |
| 12:06:38 | * | ashridah shudders |
| 12:06:38 | Bumi | and i do something like while for "User : " |
| 12:06:41 | ashridah | activex |
| 12:06:44 | ashridah | ugh |
| 12:06:52 | Bumi | send Bumi |
| 12:06:58 | Bumi | whats wrong with activexes? |
| 12:07:49 | ashridah | they make my teeth itch |
| 12:09:23 | preglow | well |
| 12:09:28 | preglow | you can just wrap a telnet program you know works |
| 12:09:38 | preglow | hook its stdin and stdout |
| 12:09:39 | ashridah | yes. like say, plink |
| 12:09:42 | ashridah | :) |
| 12:09:48 | preglow | i wrote a windows program that did that once |
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| 12:10:57 | ashridah | i'm personally of the firm opinion that stuff like he wants isn't really something you want to do in a program :) |
| 12:11:38 | ashridah | a tolerant system like a scripting environment is going to be much less painful. |
| 12:12:04 | ashridah | particularly things like expect. but, if you want shiny happy buttons, you want shiny happy buttons. |
| 12:12:12 | ashridah | i'm just not sure this is the best place to be asking ;) |
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| 12:14:10 | Mr_Wik | mmmmm, I have a question, I don't have found the answer in the manual or forums... |
| 12:14:36 | Mr_Wik | Is there any option to clear the dynamic playlist without shutting down the iHP unit ? |
| 12:15:00 | ashridah | in rockbox, or on the stock firmware? |
| 12:15:35 | Mr_Wik | in rockbox, as on the stock firmware there's not dynamix playlist ;) |
| 12:15:40 | Mr_Wik | -x+c |
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| 12:25:07 | Mr_Wik | anyone ? :/ ^^ |
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| 12:27:45 | Bager | offt: does anyone know how to center html table with CSS ? |
| 12:30:53 | Lynx_ | http://www.granneman.com/webdev/coding/css/centertables/ |
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| 12:37:01 | | Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) |
| 12:37:10 | MoosCamaro | Hi all |
| 12:39:43 | Bager | Lynx_ :) 10x!!! a lot! |
| 12:42:26 | Lynx_ | Bager: that's the first google hit for center table css ;) |
| 12:44:25 | Bager | Lynx_ :) the problem is that i looked into http://www.w3schools.com/css |
| 12:44:30 | Lynx_ | ah |
| 12:44:31 | Bager | and there was no info about it |
| 12:44:59 | Bager | but ... for IE it's enough to have body { text-align: center; } .... |
| 12:45:37 | Bager | it's stupid how different behaves it from other browsers ... |
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| 12:50:43 | Slasheri | Now cpu frequency control works nice, there is long interval between cpu_boost calls |
| 12:51:03 | LinusN | Slasheri: nice |
| 12:51:54 | MoosCamaro | Hi Slasheri, i read logs, very good progress, we hope in you :) for this ;) |
| 12:52:03 | Slasheri | =) |
| 12:53:46 | MoosCamaro | it's wonderfull |
| 12:58:40 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK asdsd____ |
| 12:58:40 | asdsd____ | ,00hey guys, any one working on the h3x0 yet? |
| 12:59:26 | LinusN | not really |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:37 | preglow | in a way we all are! |
| 13:01:18 | preglow | anyone here have any experience with gdb bugging like a turd on x86-64? |
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| 13:01:48 | * | LinusN has to reboot |
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| 13:17:02 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:18:59 | LinusN | Slasheri: u there? |
| 13:19:27 | Slasheri | LinusN: yes :) |
| 13:19:42 | LinusN | i have some suggestions |
| 13:19:48 | Slasheri | great |
| 13:19:56 | LinusN | 1) you should handle USB connections in your threads |
| 13:21:14 | Slasheri | that should be easy to fix i think |
| 13:21:22 | LinusN | 2) use the new logf() function for debugging |
| 13:21:44 | LinusN | re usb handling, look at mpeg.c:1531 |
| 13:21:56 | Slasheri | ok :) |
| 13:22:41 | LinusN | why do you store fd in the track structures? |
| 13:22:50 | LinusN | only one file should be opened |
| 13:23:00 | Slasheri | ah, yes that's unnecessary |
| 13:23:09 | Slasheri | i will change it to a global |
| 13:23:15 | LinusN | good |
| 13:23:37 | LinusN | i see that you move the track data around with memmove instead of using pointers |
| 13:24:14 | LinusN | that will not work with the mp3entry structs as they work today |
| 13:24:33 | LinusN | since they use pointers into their respective buffers |
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| 13:24:54 | LinusN | consider doing it like mpeg.c does it today |
| 13:25:07 | Slasheri | hmm, that was because codec loader can't yet handle ring buffer format |
| 13:25:21 | Slasheri | however, i can change the buffer to ring buffer if you like that more |
| 13:25:56 | Slasheri | but anyway, memmove should move no more than the watermark amount of data |
| 13:25:58 | LinusN | it's not a matter if liking |
| 13:26:00 | LinusN | of |
| 13:26:14 | Slasheri | hmm, ok |
| 13:26:22 | LinusN | the mp3entry structs depend on not being moved |
| 13:26:31 | Slasheri | ah |
| 13:26:34 | LinusN | since they use pointers into themselves |
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| 13:27:48 | LinusN | we will have to rework the mp3entry stuff anyway, but if you want it to work now you'll have to use a ring buffer instead |
| 13:28:26 | * | preglow kicks gdb, sighs, then fetches fprintf |
| 13:28:27 | Slasheri | okay. do you think i should change the buffer to a ring buffer? |
| 13:28:51 | Slasheri | i think it's not very hard to do |
| 13:28:52 | LinusN | you'll have to do it if you want wps to work without modification |
| 13:29:06 | Slasheri | ok, then i will do that :) |
| 13:30:47 | LinusN | bug: in codec_request_buffer_callback(), you don't unlock the mutex if *realsize == 0 |
| 13:34:30 | Slasheri | I should not :) |
| 13:34:41 | Slasheri | It will be unlocked by codec_release_buffer_callback |
| 13:35:10 | Slasheri | ah.. |
| 13:35:19 | Slasheri | yes of course it's bug.. :D |
| 13:35:24 | LinusN | it sure looks weird to set buflocked to false without actually unlocking |
| 13:35:29 | Slasheri | yep |
| 13:36:25 | LinusN | in fact, it also looks weird to have both a mutex and a buflocked flag |
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| 13:37:17 | Slasheri | I do that because i didn't know if it's good idea to call mutex_unlock many time without mutex_lock etc. |
| 13:38:56 | Slasheri | And i think that codec_advance_buffer requires some information if the mutex is locked or not |
| 13:40:49 | Slasheri | I decide to make the buffer locking that way that codecs may use the function calls in almost any order without accidentally locking the buffering code |
| 13:41:16 | LinusN | if you really need that info, you could use bufmutex.locked |
| 13:41:45 | Slasheri | oh, i will look that |
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| 13:43:05 | preglow | does anyone know how i make gcc spit out source code line numbers in the assembly it makes? i can't seem to find that option anywhere in the manual |
| 13:44:31 | Bagder | -fverbose-asm ? |
| 13:44:32 | amiconn | LinusN: bool mutex.locked will probably go away when recursive mutexes are implemeted |
| 13:45:04 | amiconn | We should provide a mutex function to read locking status |
| 13:45:10 | LinusN | amiconn: true |
| 13:46:33 | preglow | Bagder: thanks |
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| 13:46:48 | LinusN | Bagder: you are a loser and a lame hacker |
| 13:47:00 | Bagder | darn, you caught me |
| 13:47:02 | LinusN | the bleeding edge builds have the wrong plugins |
| 13:47:15 | Bagder | they do? |
| 13:47:20 | * | Bagder investigates |
| 13:47:37 | LinusN | dailies work, but not bleeding edge |
| 13:47:44 | Bagder | right, same problem I guess |
| 13:48:19 | Bagder | yeps |
| 13:48:25 | * | Bagder jumps in |
| 13:49:11 | Bagder | rm -rf * is much nicer than make clean ;-) |
| 13:49:33 | LinusN | rm -rf / is a nice thing to do as root |
| 13:49:37 | Bagder | hehe |
| 13:49:45 | Bagder | been a while since ;-) |
| 13:51:16 | Bagder | now commit something! |
| 13:51:21 | Slasheri | LinusN: Hmm, there is one problem if i use mutex.locked flag in advance_buffer: it's not possible to know if the buffer was locked by the buffering code or the codec. And we don't want to unlock the mutex unless it's locked by codec |
| 13:51:24 | Bagder | :-) |
| 13:51:35 | amiconn | LinusN: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda ? |
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| 13:52:32 | LinusN | Slasheri: if you have such dependencies, maybe you should rething the entire locking? |
| 13:52:45 | LinusN | rethink |
| 13:53:01 | Slasheri | LinusN: but maybe that is not a big problem, because if codec want's to use advance_buffer_loc, the buffer should be locked already by codec |
| 13:53:36 | HCl | hrm |
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| 13:53:59 | preglow | reading x86-64 asm is a nightmare :/// |
| 13:54:00 | Slasheri | Hmm, yes. Anyway, it should not cause problems if there are not that kind of buffer cheks at all and codecs are written right |
| 13:54:10 | HCl | hello |
| 13:54:14 | LinusN | HCl: hi |
| 13:54:31 | HCl | i don't suppose anyone has seen markun? |
| 13:54:46 | preglow | HCl: he was on yesterday |
| 13:54:47 | LinusN | i have never seen him, i don't know how he looks like |
| 13:54:52 | Bagder | markun (~markun@bastards.student.utwente.nl) signed off 20 hours and 54 minutes ago () |
| 13:55:04 | Bagder | "/msg logbot seen markun" |
| 13:55:23 | HCl | mk |
| 13:55:42 | * | HCl just found out he hasn't uploaded the latest version of their compiler.. |
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| 13:57:04 | HCl | where is he :/ |
| 13:57:08 | HCl | and whats up? |
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| 13:58:18 | markun | HCl: I was on ICQ.. |
| 13:59:29 | Slasheri | LinusN: the extra buffer check was quite needless. I removed that flag completely without any problems |
| 13:59:40 | LinusN | nice |
| 13:59:47 | Slasheri | :) |
| 13:59:47 | HCl | ah |
| 13:59:50 | HCl | i wasnt |
| 13:59:52 | HCl | obviously |
| 13:59:53 | HCl | but |
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| 14:00:00 | HCl | its great that you're on anyways |
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| 14:01:39 | Slasheri | LinusN: btw, do you think i should limit that cpu_boost(state) will be called only when state really has changed from last value or could there be some problems if it's called several times with the same value? |
| 14:01:56 | muesli- | hi |
| 14:02:20 | LinusN | it has a counter, so you need to "unboost" it as many times as you have boosted it |
| 14:02:48 | Slasheri | ok, so maybe i should not worry about it |
| 14:02:53 | LinusN | nope |
| 14:04:18 | rasher | as long as you unboost the same number of time (and the counter doesn't overflow) |
| 14:04:33 | rasher | which is what LinusN said |
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| 14:09:08 | Slasheri | rasher: yes. When the pcm buffer goes empty, the counter might get boosted several times (normally something 1-3) and when buffer is full, it will be unboosted quite fast to zero |
| 14:12:25 | Slasheri | hmm, could there be any troubles if i unlock a mutex twice? Will it get locked normally at next time? |
| 14:13:23 | LinusN | in the current implementation yes, but it will not work in the future |
| 14:14:24 | Slasheri | ok. this would be nice to do everytime a codec quits so we can be sure the mutex has been unlocked. Oh! i forgot i could read the mutex state from the flag, so no problem :) |
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| 14:16:09 | webguest40 | .oO(I am lost!) |
| 14:16:22 | bobTHC | hi |
| 14:16:25 | * | Bagder points out the direction ====> there you go |
| 14:16:32 | webguest40 | hi bobTHC |
| 14:16:37 | bobTHC | =========> [] |
| 14:16:45 | bobTHC | :) |
| 14:16:50 | LinusN | Slasheri: no, you should keep track of the mutex instead |
| 14:16:50 | bobTHC | what's up ? |
| 14:16:56 | Slasheri | and now i realized other thing too: The multitaskin is not pre-emptive, so i have a few extra mutexes there :) |
| 14:17:09 | Bagder | haha |
| 14:18:06 | webguest40 | does someone know a URL where I can join different irc.freenode.net channels? I need to join some other ones? thx fellows! |
| 14:18:22 | webguest40 | I am looked behind a firewall.... |
| 14:18:34 | webguest40 | s/looked/locked/g |
| 14:20:43 | * | webguest40 encounter that /join is block by this web irc gateway |
| 14:21:02 | Bagder | well of course |
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| 14:21:15 | Bagder | why would our server server the whole world to do irc on freenode? |
| 14:21:41 | preglow | hahah |
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| 14:23:23 | webguest40 | Bagdar: I would release some ressources if I had an alternative :-D |
| 14:23:52 | Bagder | imagine the abuse |
| 14:24:12 | Bagder | we'd be banned instantly |
| 14:25:19 | webguest40 | ? For letting people join many different channel through your web irc gateway or what do you mean? |
| 14:25:37 | preglow | people would start spamming sooner or later |
| 14:25:43 | preglow | and then the rockbox server would be banned |
| 14:26:30 | webguest40 | okay, so there is little chance to find a web gateway which is configured for open access... |
| 14:26:40 | Bagder | very slim |
| 14:26:52 | preglow | why not just use an ordinary irc client? |
| 14:26:54 | preglow | it's even preferrable |
| 14:27:05 | webguest40 | firewall!? |
| 14:27:18 | HCl | <.< >.> |
| 14:27:20 | preglow | ok!?? |
| 14:27:32 | * | HCl whistles innocently and shuts something down on his webserver |
| 14:27:32 | Bagder | I usually run a irc bouncer on another machine to deal with irc through proxies |
| 14:27:34 | preglow | i hate firewalls |
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| 14:28:54 | webguest40 | Badgar, name some of the usefull programs you use for thatt. I have a unix server running at home. So maybe I can look into this in the future... |
| 14:29:20 | Bagder | muh |
| 14:29:26 | webguest40 | s/Badgar/Bagdar/g |
| 14:29:28 | Bagder | is the name of the one I've used |
| 14:29:31 | Slasheri | Hmm, can i trust that memcpy etc. will never cause a task switch and remove almost all mutexes from code? |
| 14:29:39 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:29:42 | Slasheri | great :) |
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| 14:30:14 | webguest40 | muh? Sounds strange |
| 14:30:29 | Bagder | http://seb.riot.org/muh/ |
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| 14:31:22 | amiconn | Slasheri: Some other functions may cause thread switches (e.g. read() ) |
| 14:31:40 | webguest40 | Bagdar, thx. |
| 14:31:43 | Slasheri | amiconn: ok, i will protect them |
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| 14:34:04 | webguest44 | text |
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| 15:35:31 | austriancoder | i am allowed to change the sound settings ranges in sound.c for iRiver? |
| 15:35:45 | LinusN | of course |
| 15:36:40 | austriancoder | fine :) |
| 15:39:37 | LinusN | gotta go now |
| 15:39:39 | LinusN | cu around |
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| 15:50:16 | muesli- | re |
| 15:50:40 | muesli- | does anybody know if the 1xx series charger fits to the 3xx series!? |
| 15:51:04 | rasher | sounds like it's the same, but I've no idea |
| 15:51:21 | muesli- | me too :| |
| 15:51:38 | rasher | there are a couple of people here who own both |
| 15:53:00 | muesli- | have to ask in mc probably |
| 15:55:08 | rasher | mc? |
| 15:55:16 | muesli- | err mr |
| 15:55:17 | muesli- | ;) |
| 15:55:32 | rasher | ah |
| 15:57:38 | * | rasher ponders porting matrix from ipodlinux to rockbox |
| 15:58:32 | austriancoder | matrix? |
| 15:58:44 | rasher | just displays matrix code |
| 15:58:52 | rasher | screensaver style plugin |
| 15:59:02 | muesli- | :D |
| 15:59:04 | rasher | think it's a port of cmatrix |
| 15:59:07 | rasher | for linux |
| 15:59:23 | muesli- | are there errors within in the matrix? |
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| 16:00:21 | rasher | Uses a lot of malloc though.. lord knows why |
| 16:00:52 | Bager | rasher to be more interesting for porting to rockbox maybe ? ;) |
| 16:00:54 | bobTHC | blue or red pill rasher ? |
| 16:00:58 | Slasheri | Hmm, logf doesn't support %s in format? |
| 16:01:15 | Bagder | it should |
| 16:01:24 | Slasheri | Trying to use logf("File: %s", "something"); for example prints only "File: " |
| 16:01:33 | rasher | Bager: I think that's a likely explanation |
| 16:01:45 | Bager | rasher ;) |
| 16:02:34 | * | Bager wonders when he'll have enough time to dig into rockbox ... |
| 16:06:05 | Bagder | Slasheri: it worked fine for me before |
| 16:06:29 | Slasheri | Hmm.. doing some more tests |
| 16:06:51 | Bagder | and still do in my sim |
| 16:11:12 | Slasheri | Hmm, maybe the problem is that file names are too long so they are not displayed at all |
| 16:12:03 | Bagder | the output should be chopped at 16 letters then |
| 16:12:24 | Slasheri | ah :) |
| 16:13:09 | Bagder | hm |
| 16:13:13 | * | Bagder checks |
| 16:14:23 | Bagder | logf("test %s", "thisisaverylongtexttoadd"); works in my sim |
| 16:15:07 | austriancoder | i cant build my sim on x11 :( |
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| 16:15:25 | Bagder | what happens? |
| 16:16:30 | austriancoder | this http://nopaste.php-q.net/137593 |
| 16:17:31 | Bagder | is this a non-patched source tree? |
| 16:17:47 | austriancoder | yep.. it should |
| 16:18:07 | Bagder | it doesn't look like that to me |
| 16:18:36 | austriancoder | i got the error yesterday night too,, |
| 16:19:00 | Bagder | I have no pcm.c for example |
| 16:19:40 | austriancoder | ah.. i have the sound playing patch applied |
| 16:20:05 | austriancoder | but i think i will recompile libc and hope the best |
| 16:21:05 | austriancoder | must go now |
| 16:21:09 | austriancoder | see you later |
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| 16:24:42 | rasher | I don't think hte sound-patch is entirely simulator-proof |
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| 17:02:05 | * | rasher expects the latest commit to result in wacky garbage on the remote because of the init problems |
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| 17:04:33 | rasher | hm, nope |
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| 17:08:18 | amiconn | rasher: ? |
| 17:09:25 | rasher | well the remote lcd is initialized wrongly, shifted 4 pixels to the left |
| 17:09:56 | rasher | and the rightmost 4 pixels are then left blank.. when I tried it they were randomly filled |
| 17:13:43 | amiconn | It looks like Linus fixed this |
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| 17:14:01 | webguest61 | örg? |
| 17:14:22 | bobTHC | ?? |
| 17:14:28 | amiconn | (from looking at the code; lcd-h100-remote.c, line 393) |
| 17:14:50 | rasher | ah |
| 17:14:51 | webguest61 | just want to see if anybody is here |
| 17:15:35 | rasher | still doesn't look quite right |
| 17:15:51 | webguest61 | k |
| 17:17:04 | webguest61 | omg my english is bad but can you tell me how to create an dictionaryfile without linux? |
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| 17:17:48 | webguest61 | you know for the dict-plugin |
| 17:18:26 | t0mas | I can help you |
| 17:18:31 | t0mas | I think |
| 17:18:38 | webguest61 | ou thank you:) |
| 17:18:46 | t0mas | privmsg me... |
| 17:18:59 | rasher | wait.. I think I'm forgetting to compile or update or something |
| 17:19:07 | rasher | probably nothing wrong with the remote |
| 17:26:13 | rasher | Bagder: do I need any patch to use logf? |
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| 17:41:49 | rasher | Bagder: /home/rasher/rockbox/build-env/src/rockbox/build/iriver/apps/debug_menu.o:(.rodata+0x7c): undefined reference to `logfdisplay' |
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| 17:42:36 | amiconn | rasher: Iiuc you just need to configure with logf support, then do a _full_ rebuild |
| 17:43:05 | rasher | hm |
| 17:43:10 | rasher | thought I did that |
| 17:43:12 | rasher | guess not |
| 17:45:42 | rasher | yeah, that worked |
| 17:45:53 | rasher | except now I need to figure out how to use logf from a plugin |
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| 17:46:30 | bobTHC | logf recall me too much the natural logarithmic function and confused me ;) |
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| 17:47:15 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 17:48:06 | rasher | matrix.c:79: warning: implicit declaration of function `logf' |
| 17:48:53 | t0mas | sounds bad |
| 17:48:59 | t0mas | have you included the header? |
| 17:49:02 | amiconn | If you want to use it from a plugin, you need to add it to the plugin api of course, then use rb->logf() |
| 17:49:10 | t0mas | or isn't there a logf header? |
| 17:49:32 | amiconn | t0mas: You should never include any core header other than plugin.h from a plugin |
| 17:49:43 | t0mas | yes, I didn't see it was a plugin |
| 17:49:49 | rasher | amiconn: ah, want me to add that and commit? |
| 17:50:28 | amiconn | It can't be added unconditionally, and we still need a solution to 'fold it away' within a plugin |
| 17:50:34 | t0mas | rasher: if you do... don't forget to raise the plugin ver thing |
| 17:50:50 | amiconn | Otherwise plugin sources would get rather ugly |
| 17:51:32 | rasher | nevermind, I have the sound patch applied.. won't commit anything like this |
| 17:51:41 | amiconn | In the core, it's as simple as #define logf() , when compiling without logf, but that won't work in a plugin |
| 17:54:00 | t0mas | amiconn: shouldn't we just add it to the plugin api and make it an empty function there if it's not compiled in? smart compilers won't take the trouble of jumping to it and back right? |
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| 17:56:12 | amiconn | t0mas: A call via a function pointer cannot be optimised away for the same reason as such functions cannot be inlined |
| 17:57:10 | preglow | Slasheri: why does volume max out at 75 ? |
| 17:57:41 | Slasheri | preglow: scaling has been done incorrectly |
| 17:58:06 | preglow | 85, i mean |
| 17:58:20 | preglow | lemme guess, you multiply by 3? :P |
| 17:58:25 | t0mas | amiconn: then maybe our best bet is to add a define logf() to plugin.h ? |
| 17:58:29 | t0mas | and use it without rb-> |
| 17:58:29 | Slasheri | Bagder: logf("Filling file buffer..."); prints "Filling file bu" |
| 17:58:30 | Slasheri | :/ |
| 17:58:36 | Slasheri | preglow: yep, that's correct :) |
| 17:58:41 | t0mas | Slasheri: max 16 chars |
| 17:59:06 | Slasheri | Ah, yes.. :D |
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| 18:00:11 | Slasheri | Hmm, why is the limit 16 chars? There should be room for about 24 characters per line.. |
| 18:00:44 | amiconn | 21 chars with the system default font |
| 18:00:59 | amiconn | ...on the iriver remote lcd |
| 18:01:05 | Slasheri | Interesting.. Then i must have some other font |
| 18:01:32 | amiconn | logf() doesn't set the font? |
| 18:01:41 | amiconn | Hmm... |
| 18:01:47 | preglow | setvol((vol*167116) >> 16) instead |
| 18:02:12 | Slasheri | preglow: thanks, i will change that |
| 18:02:42 | amiconn | preglow: looks like precision overkill to me |
| 18:02:54 | preglow | 167117, i mean |
| 18:03:07 | preglow | amiconn: yeah, it is, but all our platforms have 32 bit ints anyway :-) |
| 18:03:43 | preglow | apart from gmini, of course.. |
| 18:04:05 | preglow | anywho, i just tossed it out, i don't expect it's code that'll end up in the final implementation |
| 18:04:37 | preglow | Slasheri: will your current code just loop all files in a directory? |
| 18:04:57 | Slasheri | preglow: it depends playlist configuration i guess |
| 18:04:59 | amiconn | setvol(vol*255/100); would at least look more readable |
| 18:06:22 | preglow | it's slower :P |
| 18:07:07 | amiconn | Not necessarily. Loading large constants like 167117 may take longer |
| 18:07:36 | preglow | not longer than a div, i assure you |
| 18:07:43 | preglow | but it's a non-issue anyway |
| 18:08:19 | rasher | thought I'd never see the day when people were optimizing turning the volume up |
| 18:08:31 | preglow | then you don't really know me, now do you |
| 18:08:38 | Slasheri | preglow: the scaling works well :) |
| 18:09:03 | preglow | yeah, it should |
| 18:09:12 | preglow | found out why you have to restart after stopping, btw? |
| 18:09:40 | Slasheri | not yet |
| 18:10:07 | preglow | think i'll take my rockbox for a little walk |
| 18:10:18 | preglow | this time it'll entertain me with music |
| 18:10:46 | Slasheri | =) |
| 18:11:15 | Slasheri | I already had it yesterday playing oggs for me :) |
| 18:11:30 | rasher | it is most excellent |
| 18:13:13 | Slasheri | Hmm, there is still some bug with cpu_boost.. If i change it manually from debug menu, system will immediately crash |
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| 18:39:48 | HCl | is it committed yet? |
| 18:40:49 | rasher | nope |
| 18:40:51 | HCl | k |
| 18:40:59 | * | HCl and markun wrote an .net compiler |
| 18:41:02 | Slasheri | HCl: Will be committed soon, when LinusN comes back :) |
| 18:41:07 | HCl | nice :) |
| 18:41:24 | HCl | then its time to fix the restart bug, and to hack in the wps |
| 18:45:14 | Slasheri | Yes. And the cpu_boost bug should be fixed |
| 18:45:31 | Slasheri | It will eventually crash the rockbox |
| 18:46:41 | rasher | By the way, I'm nhaving trouble going into usb mode |
| 18:46:54 | Slasheri | rasher: It's fixed now |
| 18:47:01 | Slasheri | Will be included in the cvs.. |
| 18:47:02 | rasher | or my iriver is. |
| 18:47:08 | rasher | ah, great |
| 18:47:10 | Slasheri | :) |
| 18:47:15 | rasher | just thought I'd mention it |
| 18:47:21 | Slasheri | thanks anyway :) |
| 18:48:48 | HCl | whats the cpu boost bug |
| 18:48:48 | HCl | ? |
| 18:49:39 | Slasheri | I don't completely understand what causes it but it has something to do with pcm playback and dma transfer |
| 18:50:17 | Slasheri | Hmm, i think that with logf i was able to locate the stop/start bug :) |
| 18:51:41 | HCl | stop start bug? |
| 18:53:14 | Slasheri | Currently you have to restart rockbox if you want start stopped playback again |
| 18:53:21 | CoCoLUS | * fn~HCl and markun wrote an .net compiler |
| 18:53:23 | CoCoLUS | for which language? |
| 18:53:34 | HCl | oh. you call that the start stop bug :) |
| 18:53:39 | HCl | CoCoLUS: "bla" |
| 18:53:43 | HCl | our own language |
| 18:53:44 | HCl | o.o |
| 18:54:19 | Chamois | Linus we need you to commit |
| 18:54:43 | * | HCl goes to catch some sleep.. |
| 18:54:47 | HCl | afk :/ |
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| 19:05:40 | preglow | Slasheri: even with this level of audio support, i can't say i see the need to start the iriver firmware again |
| 19:07:29 | Chamois | only to flash with a new bootloder |
| 19:07:32 | Chamois | :-) |
| 19:07:45 | HCl | mmmm... |
| 19:10:05 | t0mas | Slasheri: after your commit I can look at wps... |
| 19:10:09 | t0mas | or is that working already? |
| 19:12:49 | Slasheri | t0mas: oh, that would be great. The wps is not working yet |
| 19:13:06 | Slasheri | preglow :D |
| 19:13:06 | HCl | and after that i can look at the runtime database :p |
| 19:13:09 | t0mas | ok, I've read a lot of wps code |
| 19:13:15 | t0mas | when chaning it to graphical here |
| 19:13:23 | t0mas | *changing |
| 19:13:30 | Slasheri | cool :) |
| 19:13:45 | Slasheri | Hmm, i think i know how to fix cpu_boost |
| 19:13:50 | Slasheri | I will add a mutex there :D |
| 19:14:07 | preglow | why should that matter? |
| 19:14:29 | Slasheri | Because that is a serious problem and will crash rockbox at random intervals |
| 19:14:38 | preglow | yeah, but why? |
| 19:14:46 | t0mas | yes, but why would a mutex fix it? |
| 19:14:55 | Slasheri | I think that the crash will happen when there is a dma transfer going |
| 19:15:09 | preglow | i can see no reason why it should crash for a dma transfer |
| 19:15:12 | Slasheri | So i will try preventing the cpu_boost happening at same time |
| 19:15:17 | preglow | but i guess linus knows this |
| 19:15:30 | Slasheri | Hmm, okay. But i will test if it makes any difference |
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| 19:43:08 | t0mas | Slasheri: does it make difference? |
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| 19:46:22 | Slasheri | t0mas: i was unable to use mutexes there :/ |
| 19:46:29 | Slasheri | trying to think some other way |
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| 19:47:13 | t0mas | ok |
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| 19:54:19 | preglow | Slasheri: here's your chance! bagder linus about the cpu_boost issue! |
| 19:54:43 | preglow | what, now i'm starting to confuse badger/bagder the other way as well |
| 19:54:47 | * | LinusN hides |
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| 19:56:46 | Slasheri | hi LinusN :) |
| 19:57:11 | LinusN | shalom |
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| 19:57:55 | Slasheri | yep, the cpu_boost will occassionally crash rockbox and i think it might have something to do with dma transfers. If i change the cpu speed from debug menu while music is playing, the system will crash immediately |
| 19:58:18 | LinusN | how nice |
| 19:58:33 | preglow | i cherish this behaviour like a fine wine |
| 19:58:52 | preglow | Slasheri: what kind of audio latency are we having now, btw? something close to a second? |
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| 20:00:00 | Slasheri | preglow: Hmm, when the audio buffer is full, it's something like few seconds |
| 20:00:11 | preglow | ouch |
| 20:00:29 | Slasheri | but that's a good thing? |
| 20:00:54 | preglow | depends |
| 20:01:03 | preglow | on was thinking about things like an adjustable eq |
| 20:01:16 | preglow | it's going to take close to two seconds before people can hear the difference in the sound |
| 20:01:21 | preglow | but it's not a big problem, i guess |
| 20:01:59 | amiconn | The latency should be kept low imho |
| 20:02:25 | preglow | that'll destroy our cpu_boost strategy :/ |
| 20:02:37 | amiconn | Hmm :/ |
| 20:02:55 | Slasheri | ah.. But it's easy to decrease the latency by decreasing audio buffer size |
| 20:03:09 | preglow | sure |
| 20:03:26 | preglow | we should have someone do a bunch of tests to see how much of a difference there is |
| 20:03:33 | amiconn | For the voice ui the latency should be kept really low. Music can take a bit more, but I guess > 0.5 s will be irritating |
| 20:03:37 | * | preglow summons rasher |
| 20:04:26 | rasher | Why, here I am. |
| 20:04:36 | amiconn | Remember my recent fade-out fix for archos? It was necessary because the MAS latency gets higher when the bitrate is lowered |
| 20:04:49 | preglow | ahh |
| 20:05:21 | Slasheri | the start latency is already pretty low when audio buffer is empty |
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| 20:06:07 | amiconn | Slasheri: Not only start latency, stop also latency matters |
| 20:06:24 | amiconn | Bah, word order :( |
| 20:06:38 | amiconn | stop latency also matters |
| 20:06:47 | Slasheri | hmm, okay. The stop is immediate if it's done by stopping dma transfer |
| 20:07:00 | amiconn | For the voice UI, we need to be able to almost immediately stop one clip and schedule another |
| 20:07:13 | Slasheri | should be not a problem |
| 20:07:19 | amiconn | Then it's okay |
| 20:09:07 | LinusN | Slasheri: so calling cpu_boost with music playing may hang it, right? |
| 20:09:44 | Slasheri | Yes, it will hang it after audio has been played a few minutes |
| 20:09:50 | Slasheri | The interval is random |
| 20:10:03 | Slasheri | And from debug_menu the hang is immediate |
| 20:10:31 | Slasheri | Hmm, i have to test something |
| 20:11:30 | Slasheri | You might be not able to reproduce the problem with that earlier patch where dynamic cpu_boost was disablef |
| 20:12:38 | LinusN | Slasheri: could it be disk accesses that cause it? |
| 20:12:58 | Slasheri | Maybe, i don't really know what causes that |
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| 20:15:04 | Slasheri | LinusN: I think you should be able to reproduce it |
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| 20:15:15 | Slasheri | Just go to the debug menu and press joystick |
| 20:15:22 | Slasheri | There should be instant crash |
| 20:15:32 | LinusN | with music playing? |
| 20:15:35 | Slasheri | yep |
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| 20:25:02 | * | LinusN puts the kids to bed |
| 20:25:15 | Slasheri | :) |
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| 20:29:43 | amiconn | LinusN: I didn't perform any further tests, but I might have found the cause for the extremely long first write() when recording |
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| 20:30:37 | Mr_Wik | roh Mr_Wik :D |
| 20:31:31 | amiconn | Depending on the MAS signals, my new transfer routine might spend too much time in the loop |
| 20:31:57 | amiconn | The loop runs within an interrupt... and that might slow down the free cluster search |
| 20:32:28 | amiconn | It seems I forgot a condition when the loop should be left... |
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| 20:33:14 | amiconn | I'll check my theory soon... |
| 20:33:18 | Tangleding | :) |
| 20:33:21 | Tangleding | Hello :) |
| 20:33:24 | Chamois | hi |
| 20:33:26 | amiconn | hi |
| 20:33:36 | Tangleding | Hi Chamois, hi amiconn |
| 20:33:38 | Tangleding | :) |
| 20:34:00 | Tangleding | have you get your iHP140 or still not? |
| 20:34:49 | amiconn | I can pick it up at the customs office; I hope to be able to do that tomorrow :) |
| 20:35:06 | Tangleding | Ho at custom |
| 20:35:19 | Tangleding | you get extra fees? :( |
| 20:35:27 | amiconn | Let's see... |
| 20:35:41 | Tangleding | Hope not :) |
| 20:36:45 | Tangleding | Things have got accelerated it's cool |
| 20:36:56 | Tangleding | is Bjorn here? |
| 20:37:08 | preglow | no |
| 20:37:44 | Tangleding | I wanted to know if i didn't encountered issue with paypal finaly |
| 20:38:00 | Tangleding | (seen nothing on my account report but maybe too soon) |
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| 20:55:57 | * | amiconn digs out the old recording transfer logic analyser graphs |
| 20:56:27 | MoosCamaro | Tang are u r ? |
| 20:56:34 | MoosCamaro | Hi amiconn |
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| 21:07:33 | HCl | hm |
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| 21:10:54 | Tangleding | hello HCl, hello t0mas |
| 21:10:56 | Tangleding | :) |
| 21:11:14 | t0mas | :) |
| 21:11:14 | t0mas | hi |
| 21:13:14 | HCl | hi... |
| 21:13:21 | HCl | Slasheri: anything new? |
| 21:15:07 | Tangleding | slasheri is here? |
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| 21:23:22 | muesli_ | psss..dont disturb him ;) |
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| 21:26:35 | Slasheri | HCl: Some bugs have been fixed etc. Now investigating gapless mp3 playback |
| 21:26:41 | HCl | k |
| 21:26:45 | HCl | :) |
| 21:27:35 | CoCoLUS | how about a compiled image for the lazy people slasheri :) |
| 21:28:09 | Tangleding | cool way for investigate indeed |
| 21:28:10 | Tangleding | lol |
| 21:28:59 | Slasheri | CoCoLUS: The whole thing will come soon to cvs so there is no need for that |
| 21:29:00 | Tangleding | Slashery |
| 21:29:05 | Slasheri | Tangleding: yes? |
| 21:29:19 | CoCoLUS | can't wait for soon :) |
| 21:29:20 | Tangleding | if you encounter an issue about the lame stuff for gapless |
| 21:29:34 | Tangleding | you can contact Gabriel Bouvigne at hydrogen audio |
| 21:29:40 | Tangleding | http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=27390&pid=278317&st=50&# |
| 21:29:43 | Tangleding | see this post |
| 21:29:44 | Tangleding | ;) |
| 21:29:50 | Slasheri | ah, ok :) I will keep that in mind :) |
| 21:29:58 | Tangleding | okay |
| 21:30:10 | Tangleding | he's very cool guy :) |
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| 21:30:46 | Tangleding | chamois is back |
| 21:30:50 | Tangleding | ;) |
| 21:31:09 | preglow | doesn't explain much other than the info exists |
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| 21:31:11 | preglow | we know that |
| 21:31:17 | muesli- | re |
| 21:31:34 | Tangleding | prglow |
| 21:31:45 | Tangleding | in fact it was just a tip |
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| 21:32:11 | Tangleding | i imagine he can supply more info on this if needed |
| 21:33:25 | preglow | ahh, yes |
| 21:33:28 | preglow | i imagine he can |
| 21:33:36 | preglow | a quick google doesn't yield accurate information |
| 21:34:24 | Tangleding | okay anyway it's just an option |
| 21:34:43 | Tangleding | if you get out without needing his help it's cool |
| 21:34:59 | Tangleding | if you dodn't understand sthing thought |
| 21:35:16 | Tangleding | the guy is very helpful |
| 21:35:22 | Tangleding | and sympathetic |
| 21:35:24 | Tangleding | :) |
| 21:36:24 | preglow | http://gabriel.mp3-tech.org/mp3infotag.html |
| 21:36:28 | Tangleding | of course Peter Pavlovski can be a solution so since he developed foobar gapless feature with lame using the header |
| 21:36:29 | preglow | this is his site, no? |
| 21:36:36 | Tangleding | indeed |
| 21:36:39 | preglow | i believe the info we want can be found there |
| 21:36:40 | Tangleding | it's his site |
| 21:36:45 | preglow | that describes the info tag |
| 21:36:46 | Tangleding | okay |
| 21:38:01 | Slasheri | preglow: Hmm, great site |
| 21:38:25 | Slasheri | I think that header info could be even read by codec plugin itself |
| 21:38:54 | Slasheri | Should be quite simple to get the important fields |
| 21:38:57 | preglow | i think that's appropriate for mp3 |
| 21:39:05 | preglow | libmad should never need to see it |
| 21:40:19 | preglow | 32 bit integer filed containing the exact length in bytes of the mp3 file originally made by LAME excluded ID3 tag info at the end. |
| 21:40:22 | preglow | there it is |
| 21:40:38 | preglow | or no |
| 21:40:46 | Slasheri | The first byte it counts is the first byte of this LAME Tag and the last byte it counts is the last byte of the last mp3 frame containing music. |
| 21:40:50 | Slasheri | Oh, that is really cool |
| 21:41:19 | Slasheri | Hehe, we pasted the same thing twice ;) |
| 21:41:36 | Slasheri | almost |
| 21:41:39 | preglow | but seems like that is just a simple file size |
| 21:41:40 | Tangleding | eh eh seems you won't need to "bother" Gabriel himself |
| 21:41:41 | Tangleding | ;) |
| 21:42:11 | Slasheri | It might be still worth to try out |
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| 21:43:48 | LinusN | that integer isn't that helpful is it? |
| 21:44:22 | LinusN | i mean, our mp3 parser finds that out anyway |
| 21:45:05 | Stryke` | for gapless, you'd want to look at Encoder delays |
| 21:45:05 | LinusN | in fact, rockbox on archos is already gapless on mp3 frame level |
| 21:45:23 | LinusN | Stryke`: exactly |
| 21:45:26 | Stryke` | bytes $B1-$B3 |
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| 21:47:33 | preglow | gha |
| 21:47:35 | preglow | of course |
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| 21:47:41 | preglow | i just skipped that entry |
| 21:47:43 | preglow | very wise of me |
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| 21:48:08 | preglow | there you can see how many zeroes have been used to pad the last frame |
| 21:48:49 | LinusN | that's the info we need for 100% gapless at the pcm level |
| 21:48:52 | preglow | yes |
| 21:49:08 | preglow | and the info is provided straight for use, how convenient |
| 21:49:12 | LinusN | stripping the id3 tags is simple, and rockbox already has code for doing that |
| 21:50:01 | preglow | it handles id3v2 as well? |
| 21:50:24 | LinusN | you don't think highly of rockbox, do you? :-) |
| 21:50:32 | LinusN | of course it does |
| 21:50:35 | preglow | you never know, some people refuse to support id3v2 |
| 21:50:53 | Stryke` | it strips APEv2? |
| 21:51:01 | preglow | i don't think there are many mp3s with ape tags |
| 21:51:03 | LinusN | Stryke`: nope, not yet |
| 21:51:29 | Stryke` | ok |
| 21:51:57 | Stryke` | shouldn't be difficult |
| 21:52:21 | LinusN | no |
| 21:52:32 | preglow | apev2 is fairly simple |
| 21:52:44 | LinusN | and fairly unnecessary imho |
| 21:52:58 | preglow | well, like i said, some people hate id3v2 |
| 21:53:05 | preglow | with a passion |
| 21:53:10 | Stryke` | to me, apev2 is the best of both words (id3v1 and v2) |
| 21:53:16 | Slasheri | Hmm, sounds quite straightforward to do if rockbox already supports reading all necessary information |
| 21:53:19 | LinusN | i think id3v2 is an extremely silly "standard" |
| 21:53:30 | preglow | yes, but id3v1 is even worse |
| 21:53:35 | preglow | simple and plain shitty |
| 21:53:55 | LinusN | Slasheri: i think our mp3 parser should extract the necessary info from the lame tag |
| 21:54:13 | rasher | What if there's no lame tag? |
| 21:54:39 | LinusN | then we can't do pcm level gapless |
| 21:54:42 | preglow | then we just use the entire last frame |
| 21:54:47 | preglow | there's not much of a gap anyway |
| 21:54:55 | LinusN | Slasheri: mp3data.c:516 |
| 21:55:05 | preglow | but you'll just have to live with it, there's no simple way to detect if a frame has been padded |
| 21:55:08 | LinusN | fill in the blanks |
| 21:55:45 | Slasheri | LinusN: ok :) |
| 21:56:32 | rasher | I see.. I mostly care about ogg anyway. Just thought that it'd be possible to do gapless without having to encode in special ways |
| 21:56:53 | preglow | the mp3 creators never thought about it |
| 21:56:58 | * | LinusN has to go away for a while |
| 21:57:04 | rasher | The bastards. |
| 21:57:14 | * | preglow feels alone and forgotten |
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| 21:59:13 | Slasheri | LinusN: Hmm, it would be great if get_mp3file_info could read all the information from a given buffer address instead of file handle |
| 21:59:48 | Slasheri | Maybe we could a little modification to support this? |
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| 22:11:59 | HCl | mmm |
| 22:12:05 | HCl | anything i can do? |
| 22:12:07 | amiconn | LinusN: Is there a reason why some places use #pragma interrupt while others use __attribute__ ((interrupt_handler)) in a declaration? |
| 22:16:06 | Rick | amiconn: different coders? :p |
| 22:18:35 | amiconn | LinusN: Another question, perhaps even more important. Why is /IRQ3 set to edge sensitive? |
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| 22:30:52 | amiconn | Ignore me; found out why... at least for playback |
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| 22:33:03 | amiconn | Is there a way to force fsinfo 'hint' recalculation, i.e. without writing a file, and also without causing a full scan including free space calculation? |
| 22:34:00 | webguest62 | hi, all |
| 22:35:10 | webguest62 | Just a quick (I hope) question. Anybody here have an URL for archos hard drive upgrade howto? |
| 22:35:29 | Slasheri | btw, there is the "ticking" problem with remote lcd if screen is updated while audio is playing.. |
| 22:36:04 | muesli- | so there is no ticking anymore? |
| 22:36:07 | Slasheri | So this must be a hardware bug |
| 22:36:24 | webguest62 | I've got a 40 gb travelstar I want to swap into a recorder10 |
| 22:36:26 | Slasheri | no, there is. but only when screen content is changed |
| 22:37:14 | Bagder | webguest62: see the docs page on the rockbox site |
| 22:37:21 | muesli- | hmpf i have feared this |
| 22:38:06 | muesli- | folks have to send in there units to fix it. wouldnt make sense to assume a software issue |
| 22:38:14 | muesli- | their |
| 22:40:50 | Slasheri | but that problem is easy to solve just by not using the headphone jack on remote control or purchasing earpuds that have integrated volume control. Then set the volume from the earpuds low enough and the ticking will be suspended |
| 22:41:28 | webguest62 | Bagder: thanks, I knew it existed, but couldn't remember where. |
| 22:43:42 | amiconn | Slasheri: This sounds like that ticking is caused by crosstalk from the lcd data lines to the headphone output |
| 22:44:25 | Slasheri | that is my guess too |
| 22:44:28 | amiconn | Perhaps it can be avoided by driving the lcd slow enough |
| 22:44:47 | Slasheri | hmm, maybe :) |
| 22:50:26 | preglow | yeah, that'd be worth a shot |
| 22:52:37 | amiconn | It's uncertain whether this would help; on archos there was a similar issue: |
| 22:53:10 | amiconn | On the recorders, the original firmware produces a faint background noise while playback |
| 22:53:58 | amiconn | Rockbox doesn't do that, and it drives the lcd way faster than archos... |
| 22:55:58 | austriancoder | Slasheri: where can i get your current patchset for rockbox? |
| 22:58:10 | Slasheri | austriancoder: If you want to test it, you can find the code here: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/. Take the snapshot.diff, not the other. Then you have to copy the all separate files to right place and compile |
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| 23:00:47 | austriancoder | merci |
| 23:01:09 | austriancoder | hope i can commit some new uda1380 and sound.c code tonight |
| 23:01:17 | preglow | anything fun? :V |
| 23:02:28 | austriancoder | not really ;) |
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| 23:08:43 | Slasheri | night |
| 23:08:51 | austriancoder | night |
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| 23:46:51 | XavierGr | Hello all! |
| 23:46:57 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 23:47:30 | XavierGr | I just wanted to compile the win32 uisimulator but when I execute the make file an error pops-up in the bash |
| 23:48:13 | XavierGr | make[1]: /home/Xavier/rockbox/tools/convbdf: Command not found |
| 23:48:13 | XavierGr | make[1]: *** [/home/Xavier/rockbox/build/firmware/sysfont.o] Error 127 |
| 23:48:13 | XavierGr | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 23:48:27 | Bagder | you must run make in the tools dir first |
| 23:48:30 | rasher | cd ../tools |
| 23:48:30 | rasher | make |
| 23:48:44 | XavierGr | lets see... |
| 23:50:30 | XavierGr | annoying |
| 23:50:31 | XavierGr | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 23:50:31 | XavierGr | make[1]: *** [/home/Xavier/rockbox/build/rockboxui.exe] Error 1 |
| 23:50:31 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK XavierGr |
| 23:50:31 | XavierGr | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 23:50:46 | XavierGr | I got the source from the daily build |
| 23:50:58 | thegeek | got the same error |
| 23:51:04 | thegeek | with the cygwin devkit |
| 23:51:04 | Bagder | and no error before that? |
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| 23:51:58 | XavierGr | the first time I executed the code it was fine(except when I was running a plug-in from the simulator) all was build |
| 23:52:10 | XavierGr | I will try again getting the code from cvs |
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| 23:55:05 | Bagder | so there was no other error? |
| 23:55:26 | XavierGr | the first time or now? |
| 23:55:44 | Bagder | when you get this "ld returned 1 exit status" |
| 23:56:06 | XavierGr | no, no other error |
| 23:56:25 | XavierGr | but I remember that when it compiled I had the source downloaded from the cvs |
| 23:56:39 | Bagder | it shouldn't matter |
| 23:56:44 | XavierGr | then I moved the uisimulator dir from the daily build |
| 23:57:00 | Bagder | that is totally wrong |
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