| 00:04:09 | Plugh_ | LinusN: I just clarified bug 937100 a bit |
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| 00:04:53 | hubbel | oki, got recording from mic and line-in using dma pretty working now |
| 00:05:36 | LinusN | Plugh_: the split files aren't supposed to have headers |
| 00:05:37 | preglow | "pretty working" ? |
| 00:05:49 | preglow | why isn't it "totally working"? := |
| 00:05:56 | LinusN | so you can join them |
| 00:05:59 | Plugh_ | LinusN: what are the splits supposed to play in? |
| 00:06:00 | Plugh_ | hehe |
| 00:06:41 | preglow | what headers? |
| 00:06:42 | Plugh_ | LinusN: the idea of making splits in my mind is to have individually playable mp3s |
| 00:06:50 | Plugh_ | preglow: mp3 header |
| 00:06:50 | hubbel | preglow: =) well.. there's no fancy codec_api support just record, playback and write wav =) |
| 00:07:06 | preglow | you shave away the mp3 header from the frame? |
| 00:07:10 | preglow | that makes no sense... |
| 00:07:26 | preglow | hubbel: well, yeah, but it doesn't glitch and shit? does it work while playing? |
| 00:07:38 | LinusN | preglow: the id3 header, not the mp3 |
| 00:07:41 | hubbel | record while playing? |
| 00:07:47 | preglow | then all players can play them |
| 00:07:59 | hubbel | no glitches =) |
| 00:08:01 | preglow | mp3 files have no headers as such |
| 00:08:06 | preglow | hubbel: record while playing, yeah |
| 00:08:30 | Plugh_ | preglow: id3 tag info is in a header |
| 00:08:39 | LinusN | preglow: there is currently an issue where rockbox fails to split at frame boundaries |
| 00:09:06 | Plugh_ | id3 isn't encoded into the stream |
| 00:09:10 | LinusN | but i believe amiconn fixed that recently |
| 00:09:20 | Plugh_ | that'd be nice, but a real pain in the ass |
| 00:09:31 | hubbel | preglow: not yet, tried it once but then i used the same buffer for recording and playback and that didn't work out.. |
| 00:10:38 | hubbel | preglow: eager to implement some real-time filter? =) |
| 00:11:10 | Plugh_ | I guess I'll just record everything as a big chunk and break it up with some tools |
| 00:11:35 | Plugh_ | cuz right now, the splits aren't playable by anything but the player itself |
| 00:12:50 | t0mas | [23:14:45] <CoCoLUS> is anyone working on file tree display on the remote? |
| 00:12:50 | t0mas | [23:15:55] <Slasheri> i think t0mas is working on that. but now i have to go, sleep well :) -> |
| 00:12:51 | t0mas | No |
| 00:12:54 | t0mas | that's markun |
| 00:13:06 | t0mas | I'm doing WPS... next week |
| 00:13:23 | markun | I'm not working on it.. |
| 00:13:32 | t0mas | you're looking at it :) |
| 00:16:34 | preglow | hubbel: i'm eager to know it's possible, heh |
| 00:17:04 | hubbel | preglow: ok.. going to do a test of that now |
| 00:19:04 | linuxstb | LinusN: Did you read today's IRC chat about the iAudio M3? |
| 00:19:46 | LinusN | no |
| 00:19:53 | preglow | i don't think anything he doesn't know surfaced |
| 00:20:34 | linuxstb | I was just curious to know if you're interested in the M3 at all. |
| 00:20:45 | preglow | apart from the firmware not being encrypted |
| 00:21:03 | preglow | which makes the work of whoever will port it easier indeed :) |
| 00:21:43 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos#iAudio |
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| 00:22:25 | LinusN | of course we are interested in the m3 |
| 00:22:35 | preglow | m3 has mcf5249, yes |
| 00:22:40 | preglow | spotted it on the pictures |
| 00:22:56 | LinusN | any m3-owner is welcome to start the porting work |
| 00:24:53 | preglow | only player i'm willing to buy would have to be small and flash based |
| 00:24:58 | preglow | preferably arm based too :> |
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| 00:25:48 | muesli- | g'morning |
| 00:26:13 | LinusN | evening |
| 00:26:34 | linuxstb | I thought it was morning in Sweden now? |
| 00:27:17 | muesli- | high LinusN linuxstb |
| 00:27:32 | muesli- | its always morning ;) |
| 00:27:55 | muesli- | its a running gag in the north |
| 00:27:58 | Plugh_ | it's morning when you wake up |
| 00:28:15 | preglow | haha |
| 00:28:31 | preglow | i'm far enough north for there always to be light, at least |
| 00:28:33 | muesli- | some wake up @7pm :D |
| 00:28:34 | Plugh_ | I've lost whole days to that mentality, but it works for me |
| 00:28:35 | preglow | never quite feels like its night |
| 00:28:58 | hubbel | preglow: yea.. it works to play and record at the same time |
| 00:29:06 | preglow | elite! |
| 00:29:10 | preglow | w00t! |
| 00:29:27 | hubbel | preglow: start making those funky filters |
| 00:29:29 | hubbel | =) |
| 00:29:34 | Plugh_ | oh my |
| 00:29:35 | preglow | hell yeah i will |
| 00:29:39 | Plugh_ | play+record |
| 00:29:42 | Plugh_ | yummmmmy |
| 00:29:47 | ghode|afk | darth vader voice inc? :p |
| 00:30:04 | Plugh_ | hell, even recording monitor would be nice |
| 00:30:59 | preglow | we need to enable plugins generating and recording audio themselves |
| 00:31:24 | Plugh_ | hmm... there's an idea |
| 00:31:39 | Plugh_ | ever seen the eLife projects? |
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| 00:31:48 | preglow | n' |
| 00:31:50 | preglow | no? <- |
| 00:31:57 | Plugh_ | someone did that with sounds instead of graphics |
| 00:32:22 | Plugh_ | there's rules about behavior of individual elements when they come into contact with other elements |
| 00:32:27 | webguest27 | hi guys |
| 00:32:33 | LinusN | hi |
| 00:32:35 | Plugh_ | you can do it with audio |
| 00:32:38 | webguest27 | i am really loving rockbox but am having a problem |
| 00:33:02 | Plugh_ | don't ask permission to ask a question ;) |
| 00:33:13 | webguest27 | Is there a known bug while advancing to the next song during a shuffled playlist? |
| 00:34:08 | LinusN | describe it |
| 00:35:04 | Moos | webguest: have you updates? |
| 00:35:09 | webguest27 | if you create a playlist and your listening and want to skip the song it will stop playing and go back to the root directory if you were to do it like 3 or 4 times.. sometimes you can go 5 or more times |
| 00:35:14 | Moos | *updated |
| 00:35:14 | webguest27 | yes, i have updates |
| 00:35:31 | LinusN | webguest27: which version are you running? |
| 00:35:47 | muesli- | uffa...>30°c on weekend :D |
| 00:35:51 | webguest27 | you mean update? june 14th |
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| 00:36:30 | preglow | hi, jeff |
| 00:36:32 | webguest27 | yo mistic |
| 00:36:35 | MisticJeff | Hey Guys |
| 00:36:42 | webguest27 | smalls here |
| 00:36:48 | Moos | webquest Slasheri worked on it today |
| 00:36:59 | Moos | hi Jeff |
| 00:37:16 | yngwi | i tried that out just 10 min ago, and for me all worked very well :-) |
| 00:37:25 | MisticJeff | *smalls try the bleeding edge build and it may be fixed if Slasheri worked on it |
| 00:37:39 | Moos | yngwi: me too :) |
| 00:37:56 | webguest27 | ok |
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| 00:39:11 | yngwi | now this is truely the "most advanced digital audio player on the market" |
| 00:39:30 | Moos | Totaly agreed :) |
| 00:41:00 | Moos | MisticJeff: have you still got Hxx series to sell? :) |
| 00:41:01 | ghode|afk | has rb been slashdotted since iriver playback was added? |
| 00:41:27 | webguest27 | player froze on me while advancing in playlist on the 6th song after doing the bleeding edge |
| 00:41:52 | Moos | :( |
| 00:42:13 | Moos | still in development ;) |
| 00:42:13 | LinusN | ghode|afk: no, but there is this guy who has some pre-fetch plugin on his mozilla that tries to download the entire cvs |
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| 00:45:31 | preglow | ghode|afk: it was last slashdotted when rockboy started working |
| 00:47:16 | MisticJeff | *LinusN need anything else in regards to the H300 side of things? |
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| 00:47:37 | ghode|afk | preglow: do you remember who was the other person who had the same problem as me? |
| 00:47:43 | preglow | MisticJeff: time, i'd guess ;) |
| 00:47:53 | preglow | ghode|afk: yes, pedro on the mailing list |
| 00:48:03 | ghode|afk | ok will do a search |
| 00:48:14 | ghode|afk | any idea how long ago? ;p |
| 00:48:21 | preglow | yesterday |
| 00:48:23 | preglow | or day before that |
| 00:48:25 | ghode|afk | skip the h300 imo and go x5! :p |
| 00:48:27 | ghode|afk | ok |
| 00:48:34 | bill20r3 | hrm |
| 00:49:05 | MisticJeff | H300 Screen is much better than the X5 i'm afraid |
| 00:49:12 | preglow | deed |
| 00:49:48 | ghode|afk | meh its a music player first :P |
| 00:50:00 | preglow | sure hope people see it that way |
| 00:50:08 | preglow | i'd hate to implement xvid decoding .P |
| 00:50:17 | MisticJeff | yep, and a good one if it had proper firmware |
| 00:51:07 | ghode|afk | seems pedro is having the same problems ;/ |
| 00:51:20 | MisticJeff | gotta run gang... keep up the good work, you guys are doing a FANTASTIC JOB!! |
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| 00:52:03 | ghode|afk | http://www.grandtheftendo.com/ hmm looks cool |
| 00:52:15 | preglow | indeed |
| 00:52:59 | markun | ghode|afk: chamois had the same problem as you and pedro |
| 00:53:35 | ghode|afk | yeah i remember now, back when playback was first released i think |
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| 00:54:14 | muesli- | g'night ladiez |
| 00:55:01 | preglow | it almost makes me believe there are some hardware differences after all |
| 00:56:53 | ghode|afk | i was justhing thinking it might be unit specific :/ |
| 00:57:26 | preglow | so you have to boot iriver fw, then turn the unit off, then boot rockbox? |
| 00:57:37 | ghode|afk | yes |
| 00:57:39 | preglow | that's extremely weird, man |
| 00:58:11 | ghode|afk | have tried reloading roxkbox with rolo, and it doesnt help. |
| 00:58:40 | ghode|afk | i'm not 100% sure but it might be to do with usb or auto shutdown >< have not narrowed it down enough though. although it could be random :/ |
| 00:59:26 | preglow | problem is you switch the thing off |
| 00:59:32 | preglow | the state it was in should be forgotten |
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| 01:00:20 | ghode|afk | you think it might be worth reflashing the bootloader? |
| 01:00:54 | ghode|afk | currently using 1.65k |
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| 01:03:59 | LinusN | nite all |
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| 01:04:44 | preglow | dunno |
| 01:04:47 | preglow | i'm using 1.65 eu |
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| 01:06:56 | yngwi | i use 1.65k |
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| 01:09:55 | CoCoLUS | <fn~preglow> the state it was in should be forgotten -> related to the hard drive maybe? |
| 01:10:07 | CoCoLUS | sounds unlikely, though |
| 01:10:13 | yngwi | and no real problems, sure i reset sometimes (illinstr) but nothing predictable.. |
| 01:13:10 | ghode|afk | i dont think its a hardrive issue ;/ |
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| 01:20:57 | CoCoLUS | preglow said when you switch your player off, the state is forgotten |
| 01:21:28 | CoCoLUS | and the only way to store a state would be the harddrive... |
| 01:21:47 | preglow | iriver fw stores no state there, afaik |
| 01:21:59 | preglow | it uses the eeprom, but then again, rockbox doesn't use that |
| 01:22:00 | CoCoLUS | maybe a problem with the settings sector? |
| 01:22:27 | preglow | what problem are you referring to, btw? |
| 01:22:30 | preglow | sound problem? |
| 01:23:17 | preglow | linuxstb: smashing work |
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| 01:31:01 | markun | preglow: I switched the noise chaper in from 3rd order to 5th order, but I can't say I notice any difference. |
| 01:32:33 | linuxstb | preglow: What are you referring to? |
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| 01:35:37 | preglow | linuxstb: metadata |
| 01:35:47 | preglow | markun: what noise shaper? |
| 01:35:58 | linuxstb | Have you tested it with your 44.1KHz AC3 file? I don't have any of those. |
| 01:36:08 | preglow | i'll do it now |
| 01:36:18 | markun | In the uda1380 |
| 01:36:20 | linuxstb | I'm not sure the track length will be accurate. |
| 01:36:48 | preglow | markun: there's a noise shaper in there? why the hell? does it dither? |
| 01:37:05 | preglow | ahh |
| 01:37:09 | preglow | the sigma delta noise shaper |
| 01:38:06 | markun | section 8.5 in the datasheet |
| 01:38:24 | CoCoLUS | ah... the proton flux antimatter shaper! |
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| 01:39:12 | preglow | linuxstb: seems to work just dand |
| 01:39:12 | preglow | y |
| 01:39:19 | preglow | 224kbit |
| 01:39:31 | markun | 5th order was prefered for samplerates above 32kHz |
| 01:39:40 | preglow | then we'll respect that |
| 01:40:28 | markun | Should we change the noise shaper in pcm_set_frequency? |
| 01:40:29 | cool2bdave | Hi all, I am working on displaying Lyrics from the ID3 tag. |
| 01:40:34 | cool2bdave | id3.c seems to have a restricted buffer size, therefore I only can display half the lyrics |
| 01:40:43 | cool2bdave | Is there a way around this |
| 01:41:08 | cool2bdave | ? :o) |
| 01:41:12 | linuxstb | How are lyrics stored? Are they interleaved with the audio data, or stored together? |
| 01:41:27 | preglow | markun: yeah, if there's not reason not to do so |
| 01:41:50 | cool2bdave | Storred with the rest of the tag at the begining or seperatly at the end |
| 01:42:25 | cool2bdave | THere are several standards I am working on USLT |
| 01:43:01 | preglow | linuxstb: ac3 is cbr? |
| 01:43:43 | linuxstb | preglow: I think it's like MPEG audio - you can mix frames of different bitrates if you want to. But I think all DVDs and digital TV broadcasts are CBR. |
| 01:44:16 | linuxstb | So at the moment, I'm assuming CBR, but that could be wrong. |
| 01:45:01 | preglow | doesn't really make sense to use cbr for storage, if you ask me |
| 01:46:20 | linuxstb | No, but we are talking about video people here - they must prefer to have CBR audio. |
| 01:47:14 | preglow | oooh, the wall's on |
| 01:48:36 | linuxstb | cool2bdave: I'm not sure what the solution is - why don't you just increase the buffer size for now? |
| 01:48:53 | linuxstb | Are you working on an Archos or iRiver device? |
| 01:50:48 | cool2bdave | I am working on the FM recorder |
| 01:51:16 | linuxstb | In which case you need to be very careful with memory. |
| 01:51:52 | cool2bdave | it seems to be determined in the setid3v2title function |
| 01:54:53 | cool2bdave | just at the large commented section in the middle, if I increase framelen a bit I get to see more of teh lyrics |
| 01:55:22 | linuxstb | I don't know that part of the code, so can't really help. |
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| 01:55:50 | cool2bdave | It is a little beyond me as well, I am getting there though |
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| 01:57:56 | cool2bdave | linuxstb: thanks for having a look, I will try to get a friend of mine to give me a hand working it out |
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| 02:01:27 | cool2bdave | Just to check my architechture, I am initially displaying lyrics, by copying them to a temporary txt file thenusing the viewer to display them. Simple but it works |
| 02:01:27 | cool2bdave | I will then work on synchronised lyrics for wps |
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| 02:09:49 | linuxstb | cool2bdave: It sounds like you need to store the lyrics in RAM - but the more RAM rockbox uses, the less playing time you get. And Rockbox doesn't have any dynamic memory allocation. |
| 02:10:57 | preglow | hah |
| 02:11:04 | preglow | rockbox is better at hotswapping the remote than iriver is ;) |
| 02:11:18 | * | linuxstb must find his remote... |
| 02:11:59 | linuxstb | Is there anything Rockbox isn't better at :-) |
| 02:12:06 | Moos | Good night all |
| 02:12:07 | preglow | haha |
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| 02:12:17 | preglow | playback :> |
| 02:12:22 | preglow | but that hasn't got far to go |
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| 02:12:36 | linuxstb | It plays my FLACs and MP2 files better than the iRiver firmware... |
| 02:13:12 | preglow | hehe |
| 02:13:16 | preglow | yes, that can be argued |
| 02:13:20 | preglow | it plays oggs better as well |
| 02:13:23 | linuxstb | And my AC3s... |
| 02:13:25 | preglow | what with the gapless and all |
| 02:13:34 | preglow | and it actually plays mp3s better as well |
| 02:13:42 | linuxstb | :-). |
| 02:13:50 | preglow | small wonder, having been massaged thoroughly by yours truly |
| 02:14:28 | linuxstb | I suppose we can give iRiver the FM radio and recording (at the moment) |
| 02:14:39 | preglow | austriancoder says he's got radio going |
| 02:14:47 | preglow | hubble says he's got recording going |
| 02:14:51 | preglow | there's not much left ;) |
| 02:15:05 | linuxstb | Peak meter? |
| 02:15:13 | markun | replaygain :) |
| 02:15:24 | preglow | peak meter |
| 02:15:28 | preglow | there's always that |
| 02:15:36 | preglow | well, i should be able to hack up a peak meter pretty quick |
| 02:16:25 | preglow | which reminds me |
| 02:16:31 | preglow | i need to do some resampling code |
| 02:17:13 | linuxstb | Ah yes. The iRiver doesn't seem to resample every format though - I don't think 48KHz Oggs worked for me. |
| 02:17:35 | markun | linuxstb: it worked for me. |
| 02:17:45 | preglow | they do some stupid format specific stuff |
| 02:17:57 | preglow | playback speed, for instance, only works for mp3s |
| 02:18:45 | markun | good night |
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| 02:19:46 | Kandie | I just installed rockbox on my iriver for the first time. I notice a significant delay when switching songs.. is this normal? |
| 02:19:57 | preglow | normal and normal |
| 02:20:01 | preglow | it's still under development |
| 02:20:17 | preglow | if people think there's too much of a delay, it'll probably be fixed |
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| 02:22:21 | Kandie | okay :) |
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| 02:29:16 | linuxstb | Goodnight all. |
| 02:29:37 | cool2bdave | Time for bed, I will let you know of my lyrical progress, Goodnight |
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| 06:35:16 | ashridah | man rockbox sounds nice with my sennheiser HD 495's. |
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| 06:42:54 | jwalk | hi all. fantastic work |
| 06:44:18 | jwalk | any reason the wps won't stay at what I have set it at in config00.cfg? |
| 06:44:59 | jwalk | that is, when i reboot, it goes back to default |
| 06:45:31 | jwalk | also posted some bugs |
| 06:45:38 | amiconn | jwalk: where is your .wps located? |
| 06:45:54 | amiconn | If it's not in /.rockbox, this is normal behaviour |
| 06:46:09 | jwalk | in a directory called wps in the .rockbox directory |
| 06:46:30 | jwalk | ah. ok. |
| 06:47:04 | amiconn | The wps filename is stored without the path in the config sector, so it has to be in /.rockbox, without subdir |
| 06:47:36 | jwalk | should I copy new builds or delete old build, then copy new build? or any difference? |
| 06:47:56 | amiconn | Just overwrite the old one |
| 06:48:13 | jwalk | can i change the path in config? |
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| 06:55:52 | jwalk | apparently not |
| 06:57:33 | amiconn | jwalk: No, you can't. You would have to modify the source and build yourself to do so |
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| 07:00:48 | jwalk | not my cup of tea, really. |
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| 07:43:10 | HCl | :/ |
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| 08:12:55 | sku_dave | hey, maybe i'm stupid, but can anyone tell me how to get into record mode on the ihp120 ? |
| 08:13:39 | B4gder | I don't know |
| 08:13:47 | B4gder | the rec button I guess |
| 08:13:56 | sku_dave | i wish |
| 08:13:58 | B4gder | sku_dave: you're not talking Rockbox, are you? |
| 08:14:03 | sku_dave | yea |
| 08:14:11 | B4gder | no recording support yet |
| 08:14:19 | sku_dave | oh |
| 08:14:34 | sku_dave | well then |
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| 09:05:02 | linuxstb | Morning all. |
| 09:05:31 | linuxstb | Does the Rockbox firmware on the Archos play MP3 files that don't start on a frame boundary? |
| 09:07:03 | bill2or3 | uhm |
| 09:07:06 | bill2or3 | dunno |
| 09:07:10 | B4gder | I don't know |
| 09:07:57 | linuxstb | I'm just wondering if it's something we should make an effort to support on the iRiver - I'm mainly talking about other file formats, not MP3. |
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| 09:20:03 | bobTHC | morning all ! |
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| 09:22:34 | dapureplaya | hi. |
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| 09:24:05 | dapureplaya | i was just reading on MR and somone actually attempted on draining the battery compleetely with H100 Rockbox and apparantly the player went a-wall. Is there going to be a safety shutdown feature when the battery runs real low? |
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| 09:33:34 | amiconn | linuxstb: It does |
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| 09:40:06 | amiconn | linuxstb: In fact, rockbox on archos doesn't care much about the file format. It tries to extract id3v1, id3v2, xing and vbri headers and feeds all other data to the mas |
| 09:41:18 | amiconn | ..which isn't a bad way after all. This way i even manages to play files that other players can't handle, e.g. when the mp3 bitstream isn't byte aligned |
| 09:41:27 | B4gder | dapureplaya: safety feature against what? |
| 09:41:41 | amiconn | That does sometimes happen with mas recording, although I don't know why |
| 09:42:13 | amiconn | B4gder: LiIon/ LiPoly batteries should never be drained below 3 volts per cell |
| 09:42:24 | B4gder | aha |
| 09:44:00 | amiconn | Maybe this would be a good safety measure for fm/v2 recorders too? |
| 09:47:28 | linuxstb | amiconn: Thanks for the answer. I think it's only really an issue for MPEG and A52/AC3 It just means that my metadata parsers need to sync to the start of the first frame, and not give up immediately. |
| 09:48:07 | linuxstb | But there's a lot of work to do there anyway (i.e. reading the id3/ape/vorbis/whatever tags). |
| 09:49:12 | amiconn | apev2 reading could be useful on archos too, at least skipping it properly |
| 09:49:28 | amiconn | Iirc that replaygain stuff adds apev2 tags to mp3 |
| 09:49:35 | amiconn | (never used it myself tho) |
| 09:49:50 | linuxstb | That was my next question - should we aim to support all tags in MP3 files on archos? |
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| 09:51:13 | amiconn | linuxstb: I think so, but we must keep an eye on code size |
| 09:51:41 | amiconn | Not only because of the tight ram; there is a hard limit for the firmware size |
| 09:52:13 | linuxstb | Absolutely. I don't plan to do anything in that area, but the code that gets written for the iRiver will of course be reusable on the Archos, even if we don't unify the audio playback. |
| 09:53:42 | amiconn | I would still like to unify playback code if possible. |
| 09:54:15 | B4gder | I think it'll be a lot of work |
| 09:54:22 | B4gder | due to the way it is made now |
| 09:55:11 | amiconn | Slasheri: The pops are still there. Poweron - bootloader is loading rockbox - pop - resume request, accepted - click - playback |
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| 10:00:04 | dapureplaya | B4gder: http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=23261 . Read this |
| 10:00:52 | B4gder | so? |
| 10:01:03 | B4gder | it behaved oddly |
| 10:01:08 | B4gder | it didn't break anything |
| 10:01:08 | dapureplaya | is that mornal behaviour? |
| 10:01:12 | dapureplaya | *normal |
| 10:02:06 | dapureplaya | i was just curious if something like that would somewhat damage the player that's all. |
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| 10:07:29 | preglow | it can most definitely damage your battery |
| 10:07:32 | preglow | i never run rockbox too low |
| 10:07:44 | preglow | someone should do a couple of voltage measurements |
| 10:08:53 | amiconn | The voltage reading should be nearly correct |
| 10:09:16 | dapureplaya | ok. Well the lowest i've ever gotten the batteyr down to was 20%. i think i'll keep it above that for now. |
| 10:09:19 | amiconn | Full charge shows ~4.20 V for me |
| 10:09:41 | amiconn | dapureplaya: I don't talk about the percentage, but about the voltage reading in the debug menu |
| 10:09:50 | amiconn | The percentage still needs calibration |
| 10:10:02 | amiconn | ...as well as the runtime estimation |
| 10:10:19 | dapureplaya | oh right. i'm allowed to go in the debug menu? it says "keep out!" so i just do as it says lol |
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| 10:13:30 | preglow | i don't know if the hardware allows us to get to around 3 volts |
| 10:13:37 | preglow | but if it does, we seriously need to cap it |
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| 12:14:25 | linuxstb | I've just noticed that mp3players.co.uk claim to have H140s in stock - I thought they were unavailable now... |
| 12:17:34 | dwihno | Hmm |
| 12:17:36 | dwihno | The price is also good |
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| 12:18:43 | dwihno | Are there anyone who can confirm this availability? |
| 12:18:54 | dwihno | Is there anyone... ;) |
| 12:18:58 | dwihno | My english, so good. |
| 12:19:19 | linuxstb | There's an "in stock" logo on the website - but I don't know how reliable that website is. |
| 12:20:44 | dwihno | We need an insider to check it out ;) |
| 12:26:09 | B4gder | there are mostly outsiders here :-) |
| 12:29:22 | dwihno | ;) |
| 12:29:43 | dwihno | B4gder: is ~3300 SEK a fair price for an ihp-140 |
| 12:30:11 | B4gder | I think so |
| 12:30:45 | dwihno | With rockbox, it'll be worth twice the price ;) |
| 12:30:56 | dwihno | I remember when I paid 4000-something for the recorder-20 |
| 12:31:11 | dwihno | It was worth every öre. |
| 12:31:18 | B4gder | I suspect Rockbox will cause prices to go up |
| 12:31:23 | B4gder | like on ebay etc |
| 12:31:54 | B4gder | but perhaps it won't be noticable |
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| 12:45:55 | dwihno | I haven't been reading the mailing list for a while... Has there been any other port discussion? |
| 12:46:11 | B4gder | nope |
| 12:46:24 | dwihno | ipod port ;D |
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| 12:46:42 | B4gder | would probably be fairly straight forward |
| 12:46:50 | B4gder | based on ipodlinux info |
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| 12:48:34 | dwihno | It would be cool to see a port on the ifp-7/8/9xx models |
| 12:48:45 | dwihno | It has nooothing to do with the fact I've got one of those ;) |
| 12:48:56 | webguest27 | would it be possible to display total time that player has been on, seeing as the battery indicator is unreliable |
| 12:48:58 | Bger | B4gder, amiconn: what do you think about adding some kind of warning to the wiki regarding battery levels ? |
| 12:49:36 | B4gder | why? |
| 12:49:41 | Bger | for iriver |
| 12:49:47 | B4gder | why? |
| 12:49:58 | Bger | i think it was discussed |
| 12:50:32 | Bger | afaik atm we are not sure that the battery's voltage doesn't fall under 3V |
| 12:51:21 | B4gder | rockbox is not released |
| 12:51:23 | B4gder | it is not beta |
| 12:51:27 | B4gder | it is in heavy dev |
| 12:51:30 | Bger | yeah |
| 12:51:40 | B4gder | we can't warn for every possible flaw |
| 12:52:02 | Bger | there are many people using it on their irivers... |
| 12:52:03 | B4gder | I say someone add a check in the code instead |
| 12:52:12 | B4gder | for the 3v level |
| 12:52:35 | B4gder | imho |
| 12:52:38 | Bger | yep, this is better offer |
| 12:52:51 | Bger | but i'm not the right person for doing it ... |
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| 13:04:42 | Bger | one stupid C question: do we need this do { } while(0) here : #define DELAY do { int _x; for(_x=0;_x<10;_x++);} while (0) |
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| 13:05:17 | Bger | isn't it enough just to use { int _x; ... } |
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| 13:05:33 | preglow | ehehehh |
| 13:06:20 | Bger | preglow long live 2 your ISP |
| 13:06:22 | B4gder | that do-while() trick is often used for defined macros, to make DELAY(); work fine |
| 13:06:31 | B4gder | that is, without a stray semicolon |
| 13:06:57 | Bger | hm |
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| 13:07:38 | XavierGr | hi all |
| 13:08:34 | Moos | hi |
| 13:08:49 | preglow | Bger: i am my own isp |
| 13:08:56 | preglow | Bger: so i hope i do live long |
| 13:09:20 | Bger | :)) |
| 13:09:23 | linuxstb | Has anyone thought about what the first official release for the iRiver should contain? i.e. what are we waiting for in terms of features. |
| 13:09:32 | preglow | linux has glitchy drivers for my nic |
| 13:09:44 | preglow | well |
| 13:10:00 | preglow | all archos features plus perfect playback + wav recording sounds good to me |
| 13:10:06 | B4gder | I think a certain level of stability |
| 13:10:13 | preglow | well, yes, and that, of course |
| 13:10:14 | XavierGr | hmm whenever I try to build a sim I have a problem. It compiles right but when I try to doubleclick the uisimulator win32 exe a memory error pops up. Any ideas? |
| 13:10:32 | B4gder | but I don't think we need fm nor recording etc before a release |
| 13:10:46 | preglow | hubbel seems to have recording working fine |
| 13:10:55 | preglow | so i think it'll very possibly make it anyway |
| 13:11:04 | linuxstb | I think it could be useful to define a point where we stop adding features, and concentrate on stability. |
| 13:12:02 | preglow | i think proper codec plugin arch and glitchless playback is still a bit in the future |
| 13:12:19 | preglow | austriancoder says he's got fm working fine too |
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| 13:12:46 | preglow | i think fm and recording might easily make it |
| 13:13:00 | B4gder | it sure sounds like that |
| 13:13:13 | preglow | proper playback is still a month in the future, if you ask me |
| 13:13:26 | preglow | we still need new codec arch and resampling |
| 13:13:27 | B4gder | I think proper playback is all we need to release |
| 13:13:32 | preglow | and somewhat better codec |
| 13:13:39 | preglow | agreed |
| 13:13:56 | linuxstb | Should we include full seeking in "proper playback"? |
| 13:14:08 | Bger | i think so |
| 13:14:29 | preglow | yes |
| 13:14:33 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:15:21 | XavierGr | oh and remote support too :) |
| 13:15:28 | Bger | B4gder: just "#define DELAY { int _x; for(_x=0;_x<10;_x++); }" works perfectly |
| 13:15:31 | preglow | not having that would seriously annoy most people |
| 13:15:38 | preglow | and we should wait until at least the second release before we seriously annoy then ;) |
| 13:15:40 | Bger | and that was what i asked ... |
| 13:16:00 | preglow | Bger: i wouldn't count on that not being optimised away by the compiler... |
| 13:16:04 | B4gder | Bger: it works, yes, but it leaves a stray semicolon, which is what I said |
| 13:16:17 | Bger | B4gder: no, it doesn't |
| 13:16:21 | B4gder | if you do DELAY(); |
| 13:16:30 | B4gder | you should pay attention to details |
| 13:16:32 | Bger | the other one will not work either |
| 13:16:35 | preglow | stray semicolons never hurt anyone? |
| 13:16:43 | B4gder | preglow: some compilers complain |
| 13:16:44 | Bger | and this macros was used as DELAY; |
| 13:16:47 | B4gder | or rather warn |
| 13:16:48 | Bger | macro |
| 13:17:10 | B4gder | preglow: and when used with things like if() DELAY(); else foo(); |
| 13:17:14 | B4gder | it is important |
| 13:18:15 | preglow | ahh, yes |
| 13:18:17 | preglow | that'd break it |
| 13:18:34 | preglow | anywho |
| 13:18:39 | preglow | why must it be a macro? |
| 13:18:42 | B4gder | which is why the do-while(0) trick is an often used one |
| 13:18:51 | linuxstb | Regarding the first release - unless anyone else fancies doing it, I'll try and start something in the Wiki later today. |
| 13:19:00 | preglow | sounds silly to me, if you want a delay, the function call overhead shouldn't matter |
| 13:19:07 | preglow | these aren't well defined delays anyway |
| 13:19:14 | preglow | linuxstb: sounds good to me |
| 13:19:14 | B4gder | yeah, for this particular case it seems an odd choice |
| 13:19:27 | preglow | also adds code bloat |
| 13:19:49 | Bger | definitely |
| 13:20:33 | webguest27 | playback resume after stop is pressed is buggy |
| 13:22:59 | B4gder | is uda1380 not in the h300 models? |
| 13:23:35 | Bger | B4gder afacs the macro cannot be called with braces after it |
| 13:23:44 | B4gder | no |
| 13:23:51 | B4gder | which makes the do-while pointless |
| 13:23:57 | Bger | yep |
| 13:24:03 | B4gder | since it meant for macros, not defines |
| 13:24:27 | Bger | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents#UDA_1380TT_Stereo_Audio_Decoder_ |
| 13:24:47 | B4gder | thanks |
| 13:24:51 | Bger | :) |
| 13:24:57 | B4gder | sloppy programmers do bad ifdefs in rockbox code... |
| 13:25:42 | Bger | like ? |
| 13:26:22 | preglow | i've added a HAVE_UDA1380 in config-h100.h we could use |
| 13:26:25 | B4gder | ifdef IRIVER_H100 |
| 13:26:32 | B4gder | include "uda1380.h" |
| 13:26:52 | preglow | i was planning to commit it once austriancoder does his stuff |
| 13:26:59 | B4gder | ok |
| 13:27:08 | B4gder | I'll just let my upcoming h300 stuff fails |
| 13:27:10 | B4gder | -s |
| 13:27:38 | * | Bger thinks about making a comparison table between components in H300 & H100 series... |
| 13:27:50 | B4gder | a very good idea |
| 13:28:01 | Bger | :) |
| 13:28:27 | Bger | i was just typing "do you think it'll have any usage" |
| 13:28:34 | B4gder | haha |
| 13:28:44 | B4gder | see my commit just now :-) |
| 13:30:31 | preglow | haha |
| 13:30:40 | preglow | misticriver people are going to read something into this |
| 13:32:02 | B4gder | my current thinking is that this will hopefully stop people from using the h100 define for ifdefs |
| 13:32:11 | B4gder | unless they _really_ mean the h100 |
| 13:32:25 | preglow | i don't think there should be very many H100 def needs |
| 13:32:58 | B4gder | I agree |
| 13:33:39 | preglow | most of my code are cpu and not model specific |
| 13:33:44 | webguest27 | playback (using side button) doesn't resume after stop is pressed, and the song is played from the begining if joystick's 'play' is selected |
| 13:34:09 | preglow | B4gder: but HAVE_UDA1380 would be the proper name for such a define, hyes? |
| 13:34:14 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:34:22 | * | preglow summons austriancoder |
| 13:34:45 | B4gder | just trying to build for a the h300 will reveal the problems |
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| 13:40:52 | HCl | urfl |
| 13:40:53 | HCl | hello |
| 13:45:44 | * | B4gder ponders adding h300 builds to the cvs build table |
| 13:46:04 | B4gder | nah, I'll wait |
| 13:46:24 | Bger | B4gder: better wait ... |
| 13:46:56 | B4gder | I'll give austriancoder and slasheri some time to clear up their ifdefs |
| 13:47:39 | preglow | B4gder: hell, go for it! |
| 13:47:55 | preglow | nothing like deliberate badness |
| 13:48:07 | B4gder | its fails a bit too early to be interesting |
| 13:48:40 | preglow | ahahah |
| 13:48:47 | preglow | nice ifdef in SOURCES there' |
| 13:48:53 | B4gder | yeah |
| 13:49:04 | B4gder | broke the sim build |
| 13:49:15 | B4gder | ah, that |
| 13:49:26 | * | B4gder gets confused easily ;-) |
| 13:49:29 | preglow | the keypad ifdef |
| 13:49:29 | preglow | heeh |
| 13:49:50 | preglow | think i'll put the HAVE_UDA1380 define in now jusk for kicks and hints |
| 13:50:58 | Bger | anyone knows whether H1x0 have "Philips PCF50606HN/03A/N1Y Realtime Power Management Unit (PMU)" or something similar ? |
| 13:51:09 | Bger | has |
| 13:51:47 | preglow | isn't that the h3x0 rtc chip? |
| 13:51:55 | B4gder | sounds rtc |
| 13:51:58 | Bger | not just the RTC |
| 13:52:53 | Bger | i don't think such a large chip will have only RTC in it |
| 13:53:35 | preglow | well, now, it's power management as well, apparently :> |
| 13:53:38 | preglow | now = no |
| 13:54:51 | Bger | ok :) |
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| 14:13:44 | Musicmad | hi all - I've got a bunch of wma that I would like to convert to something both rockbox and original can understand. What would the best option be? wav is possible of course, but big too. |
| 14:15:19 | tvelocity | ogg? |
| 14:16:24 | Musicmad | tvelocity: yeah thought of that too. Might be the best idea.. |
| 14:17:32 | Musicmad | Q10 naturally I guess |
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| 14:19:36 | Bger | guys ... see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents#Comparison_between_H3x0_and_H1x0 |
| 14:21:13 | preglow | hmm |
| 14:21:16 | B4gder | good work Bger |
| 14:21:25 | preglow | i'd start porting the codec ;) |
| 14:21:38 | Bger | :D |
| 14:23:09 | Bger | btw, while doing it, i realised that some of the parts i thought that are the same, are in fact different (for example, the flash) |
| 14:24:25 | B4gder | the name of it gives the impression it is bigger |
| 14:24:46 | preglow | updated |
| 14:24:53 | B4gder | hehe |
| 14:25:19 | t0mas | woohoo :D |
| 14:25:31 | t0mas | finished everything I had to finish |
| 14:25:51 | t0mas | now just 1 day of lazy hanging around to wait for my test results tomorrow |
| 14:25:56 | preglow | congratulations, i can't wait until i'll be able to enjoy that feeling myself |
| 14:26:01 | Bger | and, as usual, my english is awful ... |
| 14:26:17 | preglow | they're pretty much the same |
| 14:26:22 | preglow | only the size is different |
| 14:26:30 | Bger | what's the size btw ? |
| 14:26:35 | preglow | 4 mb |
| 14:26:40 | Bger | hehe |
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| 14:26:53 | Bger | there must be enough space for all these fancy pictures ... |
| 14:27:13 | t0mas | what are you doing? |
| 14:27:24 | Bger | who ? |
| 14:27:38 | B4gder | t0mas: bger added a section for h100 vs h300 diffs |
| 14:27:46 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 14:27:46 | B4gder | hw-wise |
| 14:27:46 | preglow | Musicmad: why not get some coder to port wma decoder to fixed point for us? ;) |
| 14:28:04 | B4gder | why not _become_ that coder! :-O |
| 14:28:14 | preglow | t0mas: now, this is no time to be lazy hanging around, code something! |
| 14:28:19 | B4gder | I'm off |
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| 14:28:37 | t0mas | preglow: I just digged up my IRC services project again |
| 14:28:59 | linuxstb | An easy (relatively) first step would be to integrate the very slow floating point WMA decoder into Rockbox. |
| 14:29:16 | Musicmad | preglow: I did - he said that short of writing a float>fixed point emulator is was very very hard :) |
| 14:29:24 | t0mas | linuxstb: how should that be done? |
| 14:29:24 | Musicmad | preglow: almost a complete rewrite. |
| 14:29:58 | linuxstb | If it was me, I would use the "xmms-wma" plugin (google for it) - it contains a stripped down version of ffmpeg, with just the WMA decoder left in. |
| 14:30:06 | t0mas | yes |
| 14:30:37 | linuxstb | You then need to do the same as the other codecs - create a library in (e.g.) apps/codecs/wmadec/ and write a "wma2wav" plugin that runs on the iRiver. |
| 14:31:12 | linuxstb | Finally, you can integrate playback into Rockbox - but that's trivial after you have written wma2wav. |
| 14:31:27 | t0mas | ok |
| 14:32:27 | t0mas | and then someone should take a look at the floatingpoint stuff |
| 14:32:28 | preglow | Musicmad: complete rewrite no, hard, yes |
| 14:32:30 | Musicmad | I guess the wma > ogg Q10 isn't the biggest quality loss after all. Most of it happened on the wma encoding.. |
| 14:32:44 | preglow | linuxstb: the wma decoder is just one file, so is pretty easy to rip out |
| 14:32:51 | Musicmad | preglow: ok |
| 14:33:27 | preglow | anywho |
| 14:33:30 | preglow | don't delete the wma files |
| 14:33:35 | preglow | we'll probably have wma support some day |
| 14:33:37 | Musicmad | hm ogg rw seems to be broken. |
| 14:33:41 | preglow | if there aren't huge patent issues |
| 14:33:47 | preglow | it doesn't work |
| 14:33:49 | linuxstb | preglow: It's also the ASF container (or whatever is used). That's part of libavcodec |
| 14:33:53 | preglow | if you mean ogg seeking |
| 14:33:59 | preglow | asf container, yes |
| 14:34:01 | Musicmad | preglow: i do |
| 14:34:18 | preglow | i'm hacking up a quick resampler now |
| 14:34:31 | preglow | i thought i'd be able to have it work in place, but that seems kind of hard |
| 14:34:31 | preglow | hmm |
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| 14:38:51 | Musicmad | can I prevent rockbox from showing wma files? |
| 14:39:16 | Bger | Musicmad yes |
| 14:39:22 | Bger | by editing one file ... |
| 14:39:31 | Bger | in .rockbox dir |
| 14:39:37 | Musicmad | ok I'll find it. |
| 14:39:38 | Musicmad | thanks |
| 14:41:20 | t0mas | hmm... preglow? |
| 14:41:33 | t0mas | maybe a stupid idea... but what if I make a struct for the float thing |
| 14:41:42 | t0mas | and add operators for it? |
| 14:41:49 | t0mas | or will that be slow as hell? |
| 14:42:35 | t0mas | (and it might be c++ only?) |
| 14:43:00 | Bger | t0mas what's the point of doing it ? |
| 14:43:05 | preglow | ehh? |
| 14:43:12 | preglow | operators for a struct? :PPP |
| 14:43:20 | preglow | too much c++ for you! |
| 14:43:22 | Bger | aka methods ... |
| 14:43:22 | t0mas | hm... is that c++ class only? |
| 14:43:26 | preglow | o hyes |
| 14:43:29 | t0mas | shit |
| 14:43:29 | Bger | struct - no |
| 14:43:35 | preglow | in c, you need to use macros |
| 14:43:39 | * | linuxstb cowers away from C++ |
| 14:43:44 | preglow | like a = mul(b, c) |
| 14:43:44 | Bger | but function as a member of a struct ... |
| 14:43:48 | t0mas | damn |
| 14:43:54 | t0mas | that's a lot more work :P |
| 14:44:03 | Bger | not so much |
| 14:44:06 | preglow | then define that macro to be a simple * for floating point, and something more advanced for fixed point |
| 14:44:08 | t0mas | I now understand why c++ was invented |
| 14:44:10 | preglow | i'll probably look at wma one day |
| 14:44:11 | Bger | mainly more characters to type :) |
| 14:44:41 | Bger | preglow: don't run for it ... ;) |
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| 14:47:52 | preglow | oh, i wont |
| 14:47:57 | preglow | will just be for the excerise |
| 14:48:04 | preglow | some day i shall also learn how to spell |
| 14:48:17 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 14:48:26 | t0mas | in german? |
| 14:48:54 | t0mas | that's impossible... you have 100s of weird things like kein, keine, keiner etc... ;) |
| 14:49:33 | preglow | oh, no, english will do for me |
| 14:50:42 | Musicmad | Bger: I guess you are referring to tree.c? |
| 14:51:21 | Bger | Musicmad: don't think so |
| 14:51:30 | Bger | it's run-time configurable... |
| 14:51:34 | Musicmad | hm - really? |
| 14:51:45 | Bger | preglow: give a hand ... :) |
| 14:51:47 | linuxstb | No - I think .wma should be removed from tree.c |
| 14:51:51 | Musicmad | excellent. |
| 14:52:12 | linuxstb | That change should be committed to CVS - until we have WMA playback working. |
| 14:52:20 | Bger | linuxstb: no, wait |
| 14:52:31 | webguest27 | with resume on. switch on player. resume prompt appears, select no, if I then select play (side button), no playback of last (previous) played track |
| 14:52:32 | Bger | there are many users using rockbox for creating playlist ... |
| 14:52:47 | Bger | and using this list on original firmware. .. |
| 14:52:51 | linuxstb | Bger: Very true. |
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| 14:53:53 | tucoz | Hi |
| 14:53:58 | t0mas | hi |
| 14:54:37 | tucoz | saw some talks on fixpoints. Wouldn't it be possible to take a already written source for this? |
| 14:55:10 | tucoz | like, the one found in libsidplay? Although it's a class, it shouldn't be too hard to transfer to c-style |
| 14:55:12 | linuxstb | I was thinking the same - e.g. the code in libmad |
| 14:55:44 | tucoz | Ok, so, there are already a implementation in rockbox |
| 14:55:48 | tucoz | *is |
| 14:56:43 | linuxstb | Yes and no - the WMA decoder wouldn't be able to call libmad functions (only one codec is in RAM at once), but the code could be resused. |
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| 14:58:05 | tucoz | Ok, so is fixed point = fixed point? or are there numerous ways to achieve this? |
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| 14:58:32 | t0mas | *oops* |
| 14:58:56 | preglow | nono |
| 14:59:05 | preglow | each implementation pretty much has to be unique |
| 14:59:10 | preglow | thanks to differing precision needs |
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| 14:59:18 | tucoz | preglow: ok |
| 14:59:22 | preglow | making the macros themselves aren't hard |
| 14:59:30 | tucoz | Would this do any good? http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/fixpoint.h |
| 14:59:49 | tucoz | it's the fixpoint-class from libsidplay |
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| 15:00:12 | t0mas | class as in c++ class? |
| 15:00:19 | preglow | finding out which parts of the code needs what precision is the hardest |
| 15:00:19 | tucoz | yes |
| 15:00:23 | t0mas | then we can't use it... |
| 15:00:44 | preglow | but we should try to avoid doing like the libmusepack people as well, using differing precision all over the bloody place |
| 15:01:01 | tucoz | no, but it wouldn't be too hard to convert it to c-style |
| 15:01:51 | preglow | well, yeah, but all macros pretty much need to be tailored to your needs |
| 15:01:56 | linuxstb | But the decoder seems relatively simple, so it's not an impossible task. Hopefully the original ffmpeg developer would be willing to answer questions about it as well. |
| 15:02:15 | preglow | yes, you could try mailing him first |
| 15:02:18 | preglow | to see if he's got any hints |
| 15:02:43 | linuxstb | Writing an integer-only WMA decoder is on the ffmpeg TODO list - but I haven't seen any signs of anyone showing interest before us. |
| 15:02:55 | preglow | then we should still see if they've got any pointers |
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| 15:03:01 | preglow | i bet they'll be happy for some help |
| 15:03:38 | linuxstb | I don't have the time to devote to this, but I may have a go at integrating the floating point decoder into Rockbox this weekend - if no-one else has done it by then. |
| 15:03:55 | linuxstb | That will be the end of my contribution. |
| 15:04:37 | Moos | :( |
| 15:04:44 | preglow | hmm |
| 15:04:57 | linuxstb | (that sounded too harsh, didn't it?) |
| 15:05:03 | preglow | no |
| 15:05:10 | preglow | but it's not much use |
| 15:05:18 | linuxstb | :-) It's a little bit of use. |
| 15:05:25 | preglow | haha |
| 15:05:41 | preglow | i don't really think it belongs in cvs until we've found out if anyone is interested |
| 15:05:50 | preglow | i don't want another dumb rotting away while no one cares |
| 15:06:10 | preglow | but then again, it'll raise awareness |
| 15:06:23 | linuxstb | But having a broken WMA decoder is better motivation for someone to hack on it - WMA will be the most requested codec (simply because the iRiver firmware supports it). |
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| 15:09:24 | amiconn | I don't care about wma at all |
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| 15:11:02 | linuxstb | I don't really either. I have one WMA file - I think I can live with converting that to FLAC. |
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| 15:12:39 | Bger | amiconn: could you take a look @ http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents#Comparison_between_H3x0_and_H1x0 , if you have an idea about the hardware in iriver h1x0 |
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| 15:14:46 | preglow | haha |
| 15:14:51 | preglow | i've got one wma file as well |
| 15:15:01 | preglow | but i might port wma one day, seeing as how i've never ported anything to fixed point before |
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| 15:21:34 | preglow | i gotta go |
| 15:21:40 | Bger | cu ;) |
| 15:21:46 | preglow | yup |
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| 15:21:56 | amiconn | @all: Someone have a hi-res image of a H300, preferably a sacn, or front photo? |
| 15:22:04 | amiconn | *scan |
| 15:22:14 | Bger | amiconn :( |
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| 15:22:17 | Bger | no ... |
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| 15:22:30 | Bger | i've added all components from some well-known scans |
| 15:23:05 | amiconn | I mean front-side sca, no pcb scans |
| 15:23:13 | Bger | of the unit ? |
| 15:23:15 | amiconn | (for making up a win32 simulator background) |
| 15:24:04 | Bger | amiconn: why don't you ask @ misticriver ? |
| 15:24:12 | Bger | i can ask for you |
| 15:24:28 | amiconn | I don't read misticriver |
| 15:24:37 | Bger | that's not a problem :) |
| 15:25:55 | Bger | can i give your mail (with antispam garbage) there ? |
| 15:27:19 | amiconn | See the IrcNicks wiki page :) |
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| 15:28:06 | Bger | i know where i can get it from, i'm asking for permission :) |
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| 15:29:56 | amiconn | Ah, yes. Please do that :) |
| 15:30:06 | Bger | ;) |
| 15:36:44 | Bger | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?p=255057#post255057 heh :) |
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| 15:43:38 | Musicmad | hm had crosslinked sectors all over my iriver. |
| 15:44:26 | Musicmad | I wonder if rockbox crashes can cause this? |
| 15:45:02 | Bger | have you seen this : http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=23114 :) |
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| 15:46:48 | yngwi | hello everyone |
| 15:48:10 | Bger | hello, yngwi |
| 15:48:46 | Psy-Dead1 | ynqwie malmsteen? |
| 15:49:10 | yngwi | no, sorry |
| 15:49:14 | * | Bger WANTS 2 DEATH rockbox on his h340 |
| 15:49:21 | yngwi | though im also a guitar superhero |
| 15:49:34 | Musicmad | everybody is these days |
| 15:49:43 | yngwi | :-P |
| 15:51:56 | * | Bger haven't learned to write this name correctly ... |
| 15:53:53 | Psy-Dead1 | how do you pronounce bger? |
| 15:53:57 | Psy-Dead1 | "bugger"? |
| 15:54:02 | HCl | b-ger |
| 15:54:04 | HCl | ? |
| 15:59:26 | Bger | Psy-Dead1 my nick is bager ... but for obvious reasons (Bagder) i changed it |
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| 16:01:03 | Psy-Dead1 | k |
| 16:01:13 | Psy-Dead1 | "bagle" would be better :P |
| 16:01:19 | Psy-Dead1 | or beagle |
| 16:01:33 | Bger | maybe :) |
| 16:02:32 | | Nick Psy-Dead1 is now known as cardboardbox (psy@cpc4-bele3-3-1-cust38.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:02:44 | yngwi | maybe it's be-german |
| 16:02:55 | cardboardbox | heil! |
| 16:02:56 | Bger | no, i'm bulgarian :) |
| 16:03:00 | Bger | and this is my real alias |
| 16:03:04 | yngwi | hehe |
| 16:03:14 | cardboardbox | a real alias? |
| 16:03:18 | cardboardbox | good oxymoron |
| 16:03:39 | Bger | haha |
| 16:04:45 | Bger | why oxymoron ? |
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| 16:22:46 | Bger | guys, offt q: do you think it's better "1.01.In The Flesh.mp3" "1.02.The Thin Ice.mp3" .... "1.13.Goodbye Cruel World.mp3" (The Wall 1st cd) and "2.01.Hey You.mp3" "2.02.Is There Anybody Out There.mp3" ... ("The Wall" second cd) or just "01.In The Flesh.mp3" "02.The Thin Ice.mp3" (without "<cdnumber>.") if the 2 cds are in separate directories |
| 16:23:13 | Bger | what a big dilemma ... |
| 16:25:24 | Bger | briefly: do you think it's better to put "<cdnumber>." before "<tracknumber>.trackname" or it's just unnecessary |
| 16:26:38 | dwihno | I just keep both discs in the same dir |
| 16:26:43 | dwihno | 101. Hello there |
| 16:26:52 | dwihno | 218. Goodbye there (outro) |
| 16:27:03 | dwihno | and a lot of files in between :) |
| 16:27:31 | Bger | yep, but ... then you have too much files in one dir ... |
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| 16:27:47 | dwihno | Bger: naah. this works. |
| 16:28:06 | dwihno | Bger: I keep my cornelis wreeswijk collection in one dir. but on the other hand, I know the list by haert |
| 16:28:19 | dwihno | \o/ ångbåtsblues \o/ |
| 16:28:30 | Bger | :) |
| 16:28:47 | yngwi | i have 2 sep directories, because i like things organised in the same way (all files have the same type of names (1 - xxx.mp3, 2 - yyy.mp3, not 1 - xxx.mp3, 1.4 - yyy.mp3) |
| 16:29:03 | yngwi | also a physical cd gets one seperate directory |
| 16:29:19 | Bger | hm:) |
| 16:29:48 | Bger | the whole album (1 or 2 or ... cds) will be named the same way |
| 16:29:56 | Bger | if it's one cd - <tracknumber> |
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| 16:30:08 | dwihno | /Genre/Artist/Album/xx. Blahblah.[flac|mp3] |
| 16:30:13 | Bger | otherwise <cdnumber>.<tracknumber>.<trackname> |
| 16:30:25 | fartymenams | hi, i have a weird problem with my studio 20 |
| 16:30:33 | dwihno | /Genre/Artist - Album (year)/xx. Blahblah.[flac|mp3] <−− if there's only 1 or 2 albums by the same artist |
| 16:30:54 | fartymenams | if i do the menu button plus "minus" button |
| 16:31:05 | fartymenams | the pitch shifts downward slightly |
| 16:31:10 | fartymenams | as the volume changes |
| 16:31:17 | fartymenams | am using rockbox 2.4 flashed to ROM |
| 16:31:43 | fartymenams | hitting menu and going to the "sound settings" menu is fine though |
| 16:31:51 | yngwi | the 1.2 name type is in my opinion not good because it would make difficulties in renaming the file with an automated program (or do you also store 1.2 in the id3 tag)? |
| 16:33:32 | Bger | guys, gotta go, cu |
| 16:34:02 | yngwi | bye |
| 16:34:30 | fartymenams | any ideas? this basically means i can't use the menu "-" key shortcut |
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| 16:55:07 | amiconn | How many Bagder's there are? ;) |
| 16:55:28 | t0mas | to much |
| 16:55:30 | t0mas | : |
| 16:55:31 | t0mas | P |
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| 16:55:48 | t0mas | missing B4gder.... |
| 16:58:59 | Moos | Hi amiconn/t0mas |
| 16:59:07 | t0mas | hi |
| 16:59:34 | Moos | amiconn: are your API graphical works progress ? |
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| 17:07:06 | Hansmaulwurf | hi |
| 17:07:08 | Hansmaulwurf | is there a big in the last build that i cant change the volume? |
| 17:07:27 | Hansmaulwurf | volume at 0% or 50%, all sounds like 100% (very loud) |
| 17:07:39 | Hansmaulwurf | -big +bug |
| 17:08:19 | t0mas | hm |
| 17:08:25 | t0mas | what platform? |
| 17:08:26 | ghostiger | same thing 4 me |
| 17:08:29 | t0mas | archos? iriver? |
| 17:08:33 | Hansmaulwurf | iriver |
| 17:08:35 | ghostiger | iriver |
| 17:08:36 | Hansmaulwurf | h120 |
| 17:08:40 | ghostiger | h120 |
| 17:08:40 | Hansmaulwurf | bootloader v2 |
| 17:09:25 | t0mas | hm |
| 17:09:28 | t0mas | what build? |
| 17:09:30 | t0mas | daily? |
| 17:09:40 | ghostiger | bleeding edge |
| 17:09:43 | Hansmaulwurf | bleeding edge 10 minutes ago |
| 17:10:04 | t0mas | and what's the latest working version you used? |
| 17:10:41 | ghostiger | bleeding edge at 10:52 |
| 17:10:50 | Hansmaulwurf | a version from yesterday, i think around at 18 CET |
| 17:11:21 | t0mas | 10:52 GMT? |
| 17:11:59 | ghostiger | dont know. written on lcd " cvs version 1052" |
| 17:12:10 | t0mas | ok |
| 17:13:16 | t0mas | weird |
| 17:13:25 | t0mas | I don't see any changes that could cause this... |
| 17:13:31 | t0mas | but maybe it's the configure change |
| 17:13:38 | t0mas | for the audio chip... or for the H3xx |
| 17:13:43 | * | t0mas prods Slasheri |
| 17:19:30 | ]RowaN[ | what is "bootloader v2"? |
| 17:19:40 | t0mas | the bootloader version |
| 17:19:48 | t0mas | we have old versions... a version 1 and a version 2 |
| 17:20:17 | Hansmaulwurf | version2 |
| 17:20:31 | ]RowaN[ | yes i gathered that much. whats new/changed in v2? |
| 17:21:52 | t0mas | ehm |
| 17:21:55 | t0mas | see CVS logs? :) |
| 17:22:20 | t0mas | v1: Boot loader: correct handling of CPU frequency setting, better button handling, USB mode handling |
| 17:22:32 | t0mas | v2: iRiver: The hard drive power is now OFF by default |
| 17:22:50 | t0mas | ah and extra in v1: Ooops. DRAM can't start at 0x30000000 on iRiver |
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| 17:25:50 | webguest57 | the pop when selecting a new new song persists |
| 17:26:56 | t0mas | ok, was it Slasheri working on that? (miipekk in cvs logs) |
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| 17:31:46 | Slasheri | hi :) |
| 17:32:06 | Slasheri | Hmm, there should be no pop in headphone jack (on line-out there is) |
| 17:32:35 | yngwi | i do not have any pop problems anymore |
| 17:33:03 | yngwi | nor the startup noise |
| 17:33:16 | ]RowaN[ | that fwpatcher.exe util patches with v2 i presume? |
| 17:33:27 | yngwi | yes |
| 17:33:46 | t0mas | ]RowaN[: depends on wich one you download |
| 17:33:47 | ]RowaN[ | i still have a sliight poppy/clicky sound (ihp120) when i start/stop listening to mp3s |
| 17:33:57 | t0mas | the new one in the wiki does... the old one ofcourse doesn't |
| 17:34:19 | yngwi | maybe my headphones are not good enough so i don't notice it |
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| 17:35:31 | ]RowaN[ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/IriverBoot/fwpatcher.exe is v2? |
| 17:36:19 | webguest54 | I'm using todays build, the pops are quite loud for me (using UE10 pro headphones) |
| 17:36:50 | Slasheri | webguest54: Hmm, are you using the headphone connector? |
| 17:36:57 | webguest54 | yes |
| 17:37:15 | Slasheri | strange.. perhaps there is some differences between iriver models |
| 17:37:38 | webguest54 | on startup I also get a pop |
| 17:37:43 | ]RowaN[ | also for me crossing fading doesnt work, and songs seem to end a few seconds too early. but hey, bleeding edge build what should i expect heh |
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| 17:42:25 | amiconn | Slasheri: I still get pops & clicks; hope you read my message in the morning |
| 17:42:29 | amiconn | (on line out that is) |
| 17:43:10 | amiconn | And then there is the premature end of the last file in a playlist... didn't measure, but it's likely >~10 seconds |
| 17:45:12 | Slasheri | hmm, on line-out there is still all the pops & clicks but on headphone out there should not be any loud pops |
| 17:45:22 | Slasheri | i will fix that last file problem soon |
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| 18:53:32 | linuxstb | I've started yet another iRiver status page in the Wiki - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverStatus - I think we need both a clean "home page" for the iRiver port (the IriverPort topic is too technical), and a sort of countdown to the first official release. |
| 18:53:51 | linuxstb | I don't have time to finish it now (have to go), but will try and do some more on it later this evening. |
| 18:54:05 | linuxstb | Hopefully it's not duplicating a page I've missed. |
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| 19:23:54 | Tangleding | :) |
| 19:34:24 | Tangleding | excellent idea the iRversatus section |
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| 19:42:31 | San | Hey Guys |
| 19:43:07 | San | Are you guys making a port for the iRiver H300 Soon? |
| 19:44:56 | San | Anyone Here? |
| 19:45:14 | Bitmastro | hi everybody... just wanna thank you for the good job |
| 19:45:32 | San | Yeah Me to, with the H100 port |
| 19:46:13 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK San |
| 19:46:13 | San | Why did you guys want the scans of the H fronts? |
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| 19:50:26 | bill20r3 | I have an H340 on the way |
| 19:51:20 | Tangleding | Hum |
| 19:51:33 | Tangleding | for H3xx port see this: |
| 19:51:33 | yngwi | maaaa its so hot |
| 19:51:56 | Tangleding | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos#H_3xx |
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| 19:52:07 | ep0ch | helloooo |
| 19:52:28 | bill20r3 | are the H10's similar hardware too? |
| 19:52:55 | ep0ch | As today is payday I have donated some money :) I will donate more when SID and DUMB work |
| 19:53:09 | ep0ch | (hint hint insentive) |
| 19:54:17 | San | Good job guys |
| 19:54:25 | ep0ch | err that doesn't look right, i meant incentive |
| 19:55:43 | San | do you know when you are goiung to start? |
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| 19:57:19 | Tangleding | read the section i gave bill20r3 |
| 19:57:26 | Tangleding | H10 has differnt hardware |
| 19:57:34 | Tangleding | more close to iPOD |
| 19:57:53 | San | i Read that |
| 19:58:06 | San | doesn't say when it will start though |
| 19:58:33 | ep0ch | will start when someone feels like it |
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| 19:59:13 | west-acre | p0p |
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| 20:00:47 | * | bill20r3 reads |
| 20:01:15 | San | oh |
| 20:01:16 | San | ok |
| 20:01:17 | bill20r3 | I was just curios, since iRiver seems to be moving torwards the H10 line |
| 20:01:24 | San | anyone feel like it now? |
| 20:01:43 | west-acre | l0l |
| 20:01:54 | * | San will stop anoying you now |
| 20:02:13 | * | San hides in the corner away from the scary cool rockbox people |
| 20:02:17 | San | sorry |
| 20:02:27 | San | thank you for all your help |
| 20:02:50 | Tangleding | no problem |
| 20:03:00 | Tangleding | i'm not a Rockbox memeber |
| 20:03:05 | San | oh, ok |
| 20:03:06 | * | west-acre hides in the corner away from the scary cool San |
| 20:03:15 | San | lol |
| 20:03:18 | west-acre | they're too cool for us ;) |
| 20:03:30 | Tangleding | so i have time to spent in ginving information |
| 20:03:31 | Tangleding | ;) |
| 20:03:33 | west-acre | well, that's true |
| 20:03:35 | west-acre | they are |
| 20:03:39 | west-acre | i want to BE THEM |
| 20:03:46 | San | lol |
| 20:03:48 | | Quit lostlogic (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) |
| 20:04:10 | San | me and west are members of misticriver |
| 20:04:20 | San | Why did you guys want the scans of the H300 fronts? |
| 20:05:18 | San | anyone? |
| 20:05:43 | west-acre | is the iriver iFP5xx still for sale? |
| 20:05:51 | Tangleding | noone want scans of H3xx front |
| 20:06:02 | San | they do |
| 20:06:03 | San | 1 sec |
| 20:06:24 | Tangleding | check this: |
| 20:06:27 | Tangleding | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents |
| 20:06:35 | San | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=23309 |
| 20:06:37 | San | check that |
| 20:07:33 | Slasheri | Ah, that is for making pc simulator which looks like H3XX unit |
| 20:08:17 | San | ok |
| 20:08:18 | San | thanks |
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| 20:11:36 | west-acre | where are the ops in this channel :S |
| 20:11:49 | Tangleding | Ah lol |
| 20:11:52 | west-acre | or is this a communist régime in here |
| 20:11:54 | amiconn | San: We have so-called rockbox ui simulators for all targets we support |
| 20:11:57 | bill20r3 | anarchy! |
| 20:12:16 | Tangleding | okay if it's for sim |
| 20:12:23 | Tangleding | maybe you should contact |
| 20:12:28 | amiconn | ...and the ui simulators for win32 use a background picture of the actual unit |
| 20:12:29 | Tangleding | H3Mod authos |
| 20:13:01 | amiconn | So I'd need a front photo or scan of a H3xx for the H3xx win32 simulator |
| 20:13:16 | Tangleding | since it use a nice pic of H3xx for "loading logo" |
| 20:13:20 | amiconn | (provided that the H3xx doesn't have buttons on its side(s) |
| 20:13:58 | Tangleding | okay |
| 20:13:59 | amiconn | west-acre: Normally there are no ops in this chan |
| 20:14:19 | Tangleding | if you want i can contact lordJulius |
| 20:14:26 | amiconn | If needed, the people who have the account data can op themselves using chanserv |
| 20:14:29 | Tangleding | (H3mod author) |
| 20:14:40 | San | yeah |
| 20:14:44 | San | lordjulias |
| 20:14:46 | Tangleding | (i guess he'll be happy to give you his pic) |
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| 20:15:33 | tucoz | hi, seems like iriver's h3x0 firmware uses the same encryption as h1x0 |
| 20:15:52 | San | it does |
| 20:16:04 | San | i know that atleast |
| 20:16:04 | tucoz | descrambled the firmware, and the strings output shows perfectly readable strings |
| 20:16:13 | tucoz | Ok |
| 20:16:13 | Tangleding | indeed |
| 20:16:19 | Tangleding | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=16078 |
| 20:16:23 | San | H3Mod can do that |
| 20:16:37 | tucoz | ok, then that part is taken care of then...:) |
| 20:16:45 | San | yeah |
| 20:16:46 | San | lol |
| 20:16:57 | San | hehehe |
| 20:17:01 | San | that is me |
| 20:17:11 | San | the hobo with the signe |
| 20:17:17 | San | (sanitarium) |
| 20:18:20 | tucoz | looks like a nice fella |
| 20:19:00 | San | So, the port doesn't need to be a full write up? |
| 20:19:11 | San | just a few mods to the H100 port> |
| 20:19:16 | San | ? |
| 20:19:24 | amiconn | The biggest task/problem is the lcd |
| 20:19:40 | amiconn | ...and probably usbotg support, but that can be done later |
| 20:19:40 | San | yeah |
| 20:19:40 | San | the color |
| 20:19:42 | tucoz | The processor is the same |
| 20:19:50 | tucoz | cpu that is |
| 20:19:59 | San | so it shouldn't take long? |
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| 20:20:20 | amiconn | The colour itself is not the problem, properly controlling the lcd is |
| 20:20:23 | Tangleding | Stay patient guys |
| 20:20:27 | tucoz | I guess someone has to find the datasheets for the lcd-controller first |
| 20:20:31 | San | are you part of the RB team? |
| 20:20:54 | amiconn | I bet the lcd controller has a b&w mode, which could be used for a start |
| 20:20:57 | Tangleding | till a bootloader is released for H3xx you'll have to wait a little |
| 20:21:00 | bill20r3 | if I can jumper power to the usbotg port, will it work on a US version? |
| 20:21:09 | San | yeah |
| 20:21:13 | San | it does |
| 20:21:16 | San | i did that |
| 20:21:28 | Tangleding | you can use Intl fw on US version |
| 20:21:30 | Tangleding | so no problem |
| 20:21:41 | San | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents |
| 20:21:48 | San | there you go bill |
| 20:22:05 | bill20r3 | just the one red wire in that this pic? |
| 20:22:11 | bill20r3 | err, in that picture at the bottom? |
| 20:22:12 | San | yeah |
| 20:22:16 | San | yeah |
| 20:22:24 | San | the red wire |
| 20:22:24 | bill20r3 | can't be any harder than mod'ing a ps/2 |
| 20:22:29 | Tangleding | (the H3mod pic of H3xx is nicer than all these on MR in my opinion |
| 20:22:37 | San | yeah |
| 20:22:39 | Tangleding | due to photoshop probably |
| 20:22:52 | San | it is, why dont you get on of the website |
| 20:23:02 | Tangleding | but maybe aesthetical concerns aren't important for the sim |
| 20:23:03 | Tangleding | ? |
| 20:23:16 | San | The ads for them |
| 20:23:46 | bill20r3 | San, where's the other end of that wire go? |
| 20:24:03 | San | which side |
| 20:24:15 | Tangleding | there is a thread on MR |
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| 20:24:19 | Tangleding | (sticked i think) |
| 20:24:28 | San | yup |
| 20:24:30 | San | there is |
| 20:24:35 | bill20r3 | the end that's not in the picture. |
| 20:24:44 | bill20r3 | I'll search for it later when my player actually arrives. |
| 20:24:45 | bill20r3 | heh |
| 20:24:47 | bill20r3 | <−−- eager |
| 20:25:06 | San | anyone see my invention, the inSkin |
| 20:25:30 | bill20r3 | I have. |
| 20:25:31 | bill20r3 | neat. |
| 20:25:44 | bill20r3 | I have some of this glow-in-the-dark sheeting... |
| 20:25:44 | San | do you have one? |
| 20:25:53 | San | does it look good? |
| 20:25:56 | bill20r3 | I have a H340 ordered, but not here yet. |
| 20:26:02 | San | nice |
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| 20:27:04 | bill20r3 | in reality I'd probablly never use the usbotg. |
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| 20:27:28 | San | just a novelty |
| 20:27:50 | bill20r3 | now if there was software to copy stuff off ipods..... |
| 20:28:04 | bill20r3 | err, for archival purposes. |
| 20:28:49 | HCl | mhm. |
| 20:30:20 | Tangleding | Hi HCl |
| 20:30:21 | Tangleding | :) |
| 20:30:37 | Tangleding | (i've contacted LodrJulius on MR for a nice H3xx front pic) |
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| 20:33:29 | HCl | hello |
| 20:33:33 | * | HCl is sick :/ |
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| 20:41:13 | Tangleding | you're ill? |
| 20:41:52 | bill20r3 | anyone ever held a H340 and an iPod at the same time? |
| 20:42:07 | Tangleding | what's the point? |
| 20:42:15 | bill20r3 | from the specs it looks like the H340 is about 1cm thicker |
| 20:42:17 | ep0ch | H340 is a brick in comparison |
| 20:42:20 | bill20r3 | just wondering how the size compares |
| 20:42:35 | Tangleding | you can find pics on the web i guess |
| 20:42:47 | Tangleding | H340 is thicker indeed |
| 20:42:54 | Tangleding | but who cares? |
| 20:43:13 | bill20r3 | looked, didnt find one of them together, but the specs say this:h340 62 x 103 x 25 ipod(30g photo) 61 x 104 x 16 |
| 20:43:18 | bill20r3 | I'm just curious. |
| 20:43:29 | Tangleding | i rather a brick with Rockbox than a white plastic toywith crappy hardware and firmware |
| 20:43:40 | Tangleding | 25??? |
| 20:43:44 | bill20r3 | in mm |
| 20:43:48 | bill20r3 | that doesnt seem right |
| 20:43:54 | Tangleding | no it's 22mm thickness |
| 20:44:04 | Tangleding | (for H340) |
| 20:44:14 | bill20r3 | Dimension: Approximately 62mm(W) x 103 mm(D) x 25mm(H) |
| 20:44:16 | bill20r3 | is what thier site says |
| 20:44:35 | bill20r3 | so it's bigger, but not a *lot* bigger |
| 20:46:05 | amiconn | bill20r3: I never held an ipod :-) |
| 20:47:20 | ep0ch | if you compare the volume, H340 is about 1.5 times the size |
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| 20:47:45 | bill20r3 | wow |
| 20:47:51 | bill20r3 | most of that being in the thickness, right? |
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| 20:48:11 | ep0ch | yeah, am quite amazed how slim the ipod is |
| 20:48:33 | ep0ch | shame it's shite though |
| 20:48:48 | ep0ch | pardon my french |
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| 20:49:03 | bill20r3 | heh |
| 20:49:13 | bill20r3 | all my co-workers worship thier ipods |
| 20:50:09 | Plugh_ | I wouldn't mind an iPod for some stuff. I think a shuffle would do the trick though |
| 20:51:36 | bill20r3 | I think they're ok, just too much money for what you get. |
| 20:51:48 | Plugh_ | just want something to listen to podcasts that isn't bulky like my fmr, no skips, hard drive read delay, no cutting out while walking because the battery jars loose, etc |
| 20:51:56 | amiconn | I'm quite sure I'll never want an ipod. Not having simple mass storage access for transferring music is just silly |
| 20:51:58 | bill20r3 | and I'm not cool with how they dont (officially) let you copy the music off of them |
| 20:52:24 | Plugh_ | you can use an ipod to transfer music |
| 20:52:33 | Plugh_ | just not music you want to listen to in transit |
| 20:52:36 | Plugh_ | :) |
| 20:52:53 | bill20r3 | yeah, I dont like products that disable features for no good reason |
| 20:52:54 | amiconn | In fact mass storage access was one of the main reasons I got an archos back then (iriver wasn't around in 2002) |
| 20:53:30 | amiconn | Plugh_: Yes I know that you can use an ipod as a mobile harddisk, but that isn't the point |
| 20:53:57 | Tangleding | indeed amiconn |
| 20:54:11 | Tangleding | i advised my sister to buy archos |
| 20:54:21 | Tangleding | till iriver released iHP1xx |
| 20:54:23 | Tangleding | ;) |
| 20:54:30 | Tangleding | same reason |
| 20:54:54 | amiconn | Back in 2002, I had no computer that was capable of running special mp3 player software, so I needed mass storage access |
| 20:55:18 | amiconn | (no windows, no linux either, and of course no apple) |
| 20:55:18 | Plugh_ | I love my archos for music. I'd prefer something smaller for speech, books, news, etc |
| 20:55:49 | Plugh_ | and I wouldn't trade the archos for anything as far as recording |
| 20:55:54 | amiconn | Plugh_: For those occasions where I want a smaller device and can live with less capacity, I have my Ondio ;-) |
| 20:56:01 | Plugh_ | ah. I don't |
| 20:56:15 | Plugh_ | shuffle seems perfect for me though |
| 20:56:32 | amiconn | 60g, 128 MB flash builtin, and a 2 GB MMC :-) |
| 20:56:38 | Plugh_ | or maybe that 2gig device I saw |
| 20:57:02 | bill20r3 | can you copy from a H3x0 to a Shuffle? (assuming your usbotg works) |
| 20:57:07 | amiconn | ...and of course all rockbox features :-)) |
| 20:57:31 | ep0ch | hey, does anyone look at the Rockbox feature requests? I added a few and was wondering what people thought... |
| 20:57:52 | amiconn | bill20r3: If the shuffle allows transferring music via mass storage (which I severely doubt) then yes |
| 20:57:52 | Tangleding | i gonna leave |
| 20:57:55 | Tangleding | bye all :) |
| 20:57:59 | ep0ch | cya |
| 20:58:09 | bill20r3 | I think the shuffle does actually. |
| 20:58:13 | Tangleding | hope HCl get cured |
| 20:58:18 | bill20r3 | but I'm not %100 sure on that |
| 20:58:22 | amiconn | bill20r3: Of course usbotg would work to transfer stuff from H3xx to an Ondio :-) |
| 20:58:38 | amiconn | (but then I don't have an H-3xx) |
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| 21:00:42 | HCl | thanks. |
| 21:00:50 | HCl | i'm fairly okay compared to last night, i mostly got a killer headache |
| 21:01:21 | amiconn | Plugh_: I'm doing some more extended recording tests; perhaps I can improve long-term recording to give less broken recordings |
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| 21:08:20 | Plugh_ | amiconn: I'd appreciate that. My recording sessions are generally 8-20 hours |
| 21:09:12 | Plugh_ | unfortunately, the only time I record that much is when I really need it to be reliable the whole time |
| 21:09:25 | amiconn | The MAS is extremely picky about timing, and sometimes shifts the data by one bit so it's no longer byte aligned |
| 21:09:50 | Plugh_ | do you know of a good mp3 splitter that reads vbr properly? |
| 21:10:15 | amiconn | The files will still play on the box, since mp3 is a bitstream format after all so byte alignment shouldn't matter |
| 21:10:29 | amiconn | However, many players don't cope with that |
| 21:10:38 | amiconn | *many _other_ players |
| 21:11:17 | Plugh_ | I'm using one that you give the start and end times of each chunk, but what I really need is one that I can define the frame to split |
| 21:11:25 | amiconn | I'll try disabling m/s stereo for the higher quality settings now |
| 21:11:41 | amiconn | Perhaps that'll help |
| 21:11:41 | Plugh_ | since they can only guess what time point is what frame |
| 21:12:02 | amiconn | Yes. Rockbox doesn't prepend id3v2 and xing headers when time splitting |
| 21:12:13 | amiconn | I want to change that as well |
| 21:12:14 | Plugh_ | I spend half a day doing mp3 fixing anyway after a recording session |
| 21:12:25 | Plugh_ | yes, that would be optimal |
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| 21:12:50 | amiconn | Linus' argument was that it's easier to join the files when there are no headers, but why would you split them first if you want them joined? |
| 21:13:08 | Plugh_ | that's the way I see it |
| 21:13:12 | amiconn | Adding the headers doesn't help much for the bitshifting problem though |
| 21:13:23 | Plugh_ | if I wanted them joined, I'd just record as a block anyway |
| 21:13:24 | Plugh_ | ;) |
| 21:13:28 | amiconn | yup |
| 21:14:12 | amiconn | ...and with my latest changes, recordings are only split when they reach 2 GB (FAT32 limit), even if this takes longer than 24 hours |
| 21:14:40 | Plugh_ | reasonable enough |
| 21:15:14 | amiconn | With a low quality and/or sample rate, you can record several days (e.g. for monitoring purposes) into one file |
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| 21:15:38 | amiconn | ..now |
| 21:15:49 | Plugh_ | I don't know if I'd ever get to that point |
| 21:16:12 | Plugh_ | but I could picture a 3 day recording session |
| 21:16:41 | amiconn | With 48 kHz and q=7 it's slightly more than one day (about 25.5 hours in my test) |
| 21:16:44 | Plugh_ | given the choice, I'd set it up for 80 min splits |
| 21:17:06 | Plugh_ | just so it's easier to burn cd's |
| 21:17:33 | Plugh_ | and it's much easier to work with 80 min pieces for cut/paste than a 72 hour block |
| 21:18:05 | Plugh_ | I use it to record raves, off the mixer |
| 21:19:01 | Plugh_ | and I like being able to split it by DJ |
| 21:19:24 | Plugh_ | right now I'm fighting tooth and nail with split utils |
| 21:19:44 | amiconn | Ah, btw, that's a thing I probably didn't test: |
| 21:20:30 | amiconn | If you have time split enabled, and then split 'by hand' using F3, does the next block start properly, i.e. would it split at the set time limit? |
| 21:20:47 | amiconn | (if not split again prematurely by using F3 of course) |
| 21:21:22 | amiconn | Do you run rombox? |
| 21:23:17 | Plugh_ | yes |
| 21:23:54 | Plugh_ | oh, I don't know about manual split |
| 21:24:10 | Plugh_ | I suspect it would record for the time limit |
| 21:24:21 | Plugh_ | since it's just working off the recorded track length |
| 21:24:37 | Plugh_ | which would reset to 0 after you start a new track |
| 21:24:58 | amiconn | (rombox) Good. That's what I am running too, also for the tests |
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| 21:27:08 | Plugh_ | afk lunch |
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| 21:44:57 | webguest42 | the link to the 'bleeding edge' daily builds is broken |
| 21:45:13 | DomZ | retry |
| 21:45:26 | DomZ | that's happen sometimes |
| 21:45:31 | ep0ch | just downloaded, worked for me |
| 21:45:57 | webguest42 | thanks worked on the second attempt |
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| 21:47:30 | preglow | wellwellwell |
| 21:51:41 | hubbel | hum.. does anyone badly want bas/tremble settings? |
| 21:51:54 | preglow | yes, someone does |
| 21:52:08 | preglow | but austriancoder has already implemented the uda functions |
| 21:52:11 | CoCoLUS | jap! |
| 21:52:14 | hubbel | oki |
| 21:52:15 | preglow | and i dont wanna duplicate his work |
| 21:52:27 | preglow | i've already implemented the settings needed |
| 21:52:43 | CoCoLUS | badly is not even strong enough :) |
| 21:52:50 | preglow | so the second he commits, we'll have bass & treble |
| 21:53:00 | hubbel | k.. i'm adding recording settings now.. decimator gain and vga/pga gain etc |
| 21:53:06 | preglow | someone go bug him |
| 21:53:14 | preglow | vga/pga? |
| 21:53:28 | CoCoLUS | it's not like he's here |
| 21:53:40 | HCl | didn't he lose his iriver? is he still able to develop? |
| 21:53:47 | CoCoLUS | maybe he will never come back? and we'll -never- have b/t settings? :) |
| 21:53:51 | preglow | HCl: the code is ready |
| 21:53:52 | preglow | well |
| 21:53:56 | preglow | i'll commit my settings change |
| 21:53:58 | hubbel | vga is the interal microphone "preamp" and pga is the line-in /external mic "preamp" |
| 21:54:06 | preglow | then we just lack code to actually set it in the uda |
| 21:54:08 | preglow | which is very simple |
| 21:54:13 | ep0ch | inconsistant playback behaviour with latest build, play the first track in a dir, then hit 'previous' plays the last track in the directory, and then hitting 'next' doesn't play the first track again. |
| 21:55:07 | ep0ch | if that makes sense |
| 21:56:21 | t0mas | preglow? |
| 21:56:22 | t0mas | http://pastebin.ca/14686 |
| 21:56:30 | t0mas | can you confirm my assumption that 2 is faster? |
| 21:56:44 | t0mas | and the idea that it's only faster for len > 2 ? |
| 21:56:47 | t0mas | or is that wrong? |
| 21:56:52 | preglow | i commited the sound.c settings change |
| 21:57:40 | preglow | t0mas: this is x86, it's impossible to say what will be faster ;) |
| 21:57:56 | t0mas | hm... because? |
| 21:58:15 | * | t0mas tested... and it's differing... that's why I'am asking ;) |
| 21:58:31 | t0mas | but the general idea that 2 is faster is true? |
| 21:58:33 | preglow | modern x86 processors do so incredibly much fancy with the code before it's actually executed |
| 21:58:36 | preglow | but yeah |
| 21:58:38 | preglow | lesser instructions should give a boost |
| 21:59:50 | preglow | hubbel: if you've got uda1380_set_treble functions lying around, just add a call to sound_set now and we should be ok |
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| 22:00:38 | hubbel | preglow: i dont have any such =) |
| 22:00:46 | CoCoLUS | damn |
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| 22:00:51 | CoCoLUS | so close :) |
| 22:01:11 | preglow | hubbel: well, it's either make them, or wait for austriancoder to commit his |
| 22:01:27 | preglow | which it's starting to look like might never happen |
| 22:03:15 | hubbel | preglow: sorry, think i misunderstood.. i can add the uda functions to set bass/tremble if you want? |
| 22:03:39 | preglow | sure, i wont do it ;) |
| 22:03:46 | preglow | section 11.8 describes how to |
| 22:03:47 | preglow | it's very simple |
| 22:03:58 | hubbel | preglow: yeah, i know =) |
| 22:04:17 | CoCoLUS | <- me getting excited ;) |
| 22:04:34 | preglow | baahhh |
| 22:04:38 | preglow | that commit is seriously broken |
| 22:04:41 | preglow | what the hell have i been smoking |
| 22:05:23 | Plugh_ | share? |
| 22:05:38 | preglow | if i can find out what it was |
| 22:05:56 | ep0ch | continuing with the inconsistant playback... it only happens while the first song is trying to buffer the first 2 mb, after the first 2mb are buffered hitting 'previous' causes a slight click to be heard. |
| 22:06:42 | amiconn | Previous should always jump to the track start when at the first track, everything else is a bug |
| 22:07:07 | preglow | defaults should be 0 for both bass and treble, yes? |
| 22:07:19 | amiconn | Not on the archos |
| 22:07:23 | preglow | so i see |
| 22:07:24 | preglow | but for iriver |
| 22:07:32 | amiconn | I think so |
| 22:08:02 | preglow | why isn't it zero for archos? |
| 22:08:41 | hubbel | preglow: trebble is 2 bits, bass boost i 4 bits |
| 22:08:44 | amiconn | People complained that rockbox sounded 'dull' compared to archos firmware |
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| 22:09:05 | amiconn | ..because archos default isn't flat |
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| 22:09:22 | preglow | hubbel: yea |
| 22:09:26 | CoCoLUS | hm... the volume setting... do i imagine that or is it actually finer adjustable with rockbox? |
| 22:09:39 | preglow | CoCoLUS: it's 255 steps internally |
| 22:09:39 | hubbel | preglow: and then there's a mode setting: no bass/treble, min and max |
| 22:09:43 | preglow | CoCoLUS: rockbox makes it a 100 |
| 22:09:45 | preglow | hubbel: just use max |
| 22:09:54 | CoCoLUS | and iriver makes it about 40 i think |
| 22:10:00 | amiconn | yup |
| 22:10:01 | preglow | hubbel: max has all the values of min, plus more |
| 22:10:08 | CoCoLUS | so i didn't imagine that .) |
| 22:10:11 | ep0ch | but iriver at 20 != rockbox at 50 |
| 22:10:21 | ep0ch | (volume) |
| 22:10:23 | preglow | rockbox uses a linear scale of iriver |
| 22:10:27 | ep0ch | ah |
| 22:10:28 | preglow | on |
| 22:10:36 | preglow | iriver fw probably uses log scale |
| 22:10:44 | preglow | god knows what the uda uses internally |
| 22:10:45 | ep0ch | so 20 is equivalent to ?? |
| 22:11:16 | CoCoLUS | will the same be true for b/t ? |
| 22:11:58 | preglow | i hope the newest mailing list request will be turned down vehemently? |
| 22:12:09 | preglow | CoCoLUS: bass treble will be equal |
| 22:12:19 | preglow | CoCoLUS: they seem to use the direct hardware values, so will we |
| 22:12:53 | CoCoLUS | ok... about that mailing list request |
| 22:13:01 | CoCoLUS | isn't choice always better? :) |
| 22:13:24 | preglow | it'll require a big rewrite |
| 22:13:56 | preglow | and i dont think many people will want it |
| 22:14:05 | ep0ch | i have a few feature requests, anyone like to hear them? |
| 22:14:11 | amiconn | preglow: It's a thing I surely don't want |
| 22:14:17 | preglow | ep0ch: spill it |
| 22:14:19 | preglow | amiconn: agreed, completely |
| 22:14:41 | preglow | i love the way rockbox does it |
| 22:14:41 | amiconn | (Are we iriver that we'll read the whole hd on boot, or what? ;) ) |
| 22:14:51 | hubbel | preglow: in the user interface it would be nice to translate the values to actual dB using table-lookups |
| 22:15:01 | ep0ch | feature request 1219247Volume stepping |
| 22:15:02 | preglow | hubbel: they ARE db values |
| 22:15:12 | hubbel | preglow: ok =) |
| 22:15:14 | ep0ch | change the increment of the volume |
| 22:15:28 | ep0ch | feature 1219250Add a '>' to menus |
| 22:15:29 | amiconn | If someone thinks the HD spins down too quickly - rockbox has an option to change it |
| 22:15:36 | CoCoLUS | would it be possible to create this "in-memory directory tree" on the fly, so when you visit folders you already had open, their content loads instantly... aka caching? :) |
| 22:15:46 | ep0ch | so you know its a sub menu |
| 22:15:50 | preglow | everything is possible |
| 22:16:01 | ep0ch | feature 1219252Top level menu |
| 22:16:01 | preglow | it would just require readdir caching it's stuff |
| 22:16:05 | preglow | but i don't want it ;) |
| 22:16:33 | CoCoLUS | but it would make sense... hmm.. ;) |
| 22:16:52 | yngwi | i just logged in, what are you talking about? |
| 22:16:55 | amiconn | It would require to add modes to the file browser, and that would bloat code |
| 22:17:05 | preglow | well, it depends, i dont want to waste ram on dir caching |
| 22:17:24 | yngwi | oh, dir caching |
| 22:17:31 | ep0ch | caching the top level would be useful... |
| 22:17:31 | preglow | we'll have to write a whole cache implementation as well |
| 22:17:36 | amiconn | It could use the main buffer for caching when no music is playing |
| 22:17:37 | preglow | it'll bloat up code something awful |
| 22:17:42 | ep0ch | as its most visited |
| 22:17:48 | preglow | amiconn: people are going to want it while music is playing as well |
| 22:18:09 | ep0ch | and first visited on start up |
| 22:18:15 | amiconn | ...but then it would have to use modes (caching while browsing only, and non-caching when playing in parallel) |
| 22:18:26 | amiconn | - ugly - |
| 22:18:40 | preglow | and let's not forget: unwanted! |
| 22:18:40 | CoCoLUS | such feature requests will get more and more common as more people use rockbox for the iriver.. |
| 22:18:40 | preglow | ;) |
| 22:18:47 | preglow | yes they will |
| 22:18:56 | amiconn | CoCoLUS: I wonder why |
| 22:19:02 | preglow | luckily we don't have to listen |
| 22:19:22 | preglow | someone could always just code this and keep it as a patch anyway |
| 22:19:30 | amiconn | Rockbox is running for quite some time on archos, and there is no dir caching other than currentdir |
| 22:20:03 | yngwi | i'd say this isn't neccessary, as loading times are not that long |
| 22:20:07 | CoCoLUS | because those users with less technical knowledge only use finished, stable products, but then, they are in superior numbers? :) |
| 22:20:21 | preglow | aight |
| 22:20:29 | preglow | but i'd still like to know why this is needed |
| 22:20:34 | preglow | do you browse your unit a whole lot? |
| 22:20:44 | DomZ | all dir caching will be great :) |
| 22:20:46 | preglow | i tend to start my music and then let it play music |
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| 22:21:03 | amiconn | 10 seconds spindown is plenty to get from dir to dir without intermediate spindown (for me) |
| 22:21:14 | DomZ | why don't use a database ? |
| 22:21:23 | CoCoLUS | i don't, but i understand the fact that there are a lot of different user types with different requirements |
| 22:21:29 | amiconn | There is no need for a database |
| 22:21:39 | amiconn | ...if you organise your music |
| 22:21:45 | DomZ | i do |
| 22:21:50 | CoCoLUS | but many don't. |
| 22:21:51 | preglow | need and need |
| 22:22:15 | amiconn | I agree that it might be a nice option... from time to time.. but absolutely nothing that I require, be it on a dap or on a computer |
| 22:22:16 | Slasheri | hmm, some configurable file tree caching could be useful too :) |
| 22:22:31 | preglow | i don't like where this is going! |
| 22:22:40 | CoCoLUS | i think it depends if you guys, as the developers, code rockbox for yourself or for the "masses" |
| 22:22:53 | amiconn | File caching just eats battery, because most of the stuff it reads is never used |
| 22:22:56 | preglow | i sure as hell place myself nicely in the first category |
| 22:23:02 | preglow | unless there's something interesting afoot |
| 22:23:06 | amiconn | *File _tree_ caching |
| 22:23:06 | CoCoLUS | if you do it for the masses, well then you should listen to their requests, that's only my opinion of course |
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| 22:23:29 | DomZ | but with a database you can store id tag, and the directory listing can be store into it. database is faster than system file |
| 22:23:29 | * | webguest22 whispers quietly 'gapless' |
| 22:23:32 | preglow | luckily, my interests coincide with that of the masses at the moment: |
| 22:23:35 | preglow | codec support |
| 22:23:43 | preglow | webguest22: we have gapless :-) |
| 22:23:51 | webguest22 | we do |
| 22:23:57 | preglow | why, yes |
| 22:23:59 | preglow | unless you use mp3s |
| 22:24:10 | webguest22 | ah mp3's for me |
| 22:24:14 | preglow | oh well |
| 22:24:19 | yngwi | i don't have problems with mp3's....??? |
| 22:24:23 | preglow | gapless code is in |
| 22:24:27 | preglow | someone just needs to make it work, heh |
| 22:24:32 | yngwi | strange |
| 22:24:41 | bill20r3 | Subject: BuyDig.com Shipping Confirmation <−− YAY! |
| 22:24:52 | preglow | yngwi: it's very close to gapless, but not quite |
| 22:24:53 | DomZ | everybody talk about gapless, but what is it ? |
| 22:25:03 | preglow | DomZ: the player not adding gaps between tracksd |
| 22:25:20 | preglow | DomZ: if you listen to music that is supposed to have seamless track transitions, it matters a lot |
| 22:25:38 | yngwi | hmm, i couldn't hear any gaps with my lame -aps ripped the doors live cd.. but that may be just my ears :-) |
| 22:25:39 | DomZ | ahh ok ! |
| 22:25:44 | preglow | a lot of my music has this |
| 22:25:50 | preglow | yngwi: it's pretty close to gapless, but not quite |
| 22:25:53 | yngwi | sometimes it helps to hear not thaaaat good |
| 22:25:57 | ep0ch | any commercial firmware out there support gapless? |
| 22:26:03 | preglow | ep0ch: neuros, i think |
| 22:26:05 | amiconn | yup |
| 22:26:10 | ep0ch | thats it? |
| 22:26:14 | * | webguest22 will buy preglow a crate of his fav beer to finish gapless |
| 22:26:16 | preglow | more or less |
| 22:26:18 | ep0ch | ha |
| 22:26:26 | preglow | webguest22: that'll be pretty expensive on you... |
| 22:26:32 | preglow | i've got expensive tastes in beer, heh |
| 22:26:33 | webguest22 | try me |
| 22:26:33 | amiconn | Archos stock firmware does play gapless (at the frame level of course, e.g. lame −−nogap encoded) |
| 22:26:42 | webguest22 | no price is too high |
| 22:27:07 | preglow | i believe iriver rockbox plays those gapless as well |
| 22:27:08 | webguest22 | are you up to it :)) |
| 22:27:15 | preglow | yeah, i am, but no time now |
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| 22:27:30 | ep0ch | so an option to change the volume increment amount would be nice... |
| 22:27:32 | amiconn | (That's one thing archos actually did right - years before iriver made H1xx firmware) |
| 22:27:37 | preglow | i gave it a shot a week ago or something, but i just couldn't get it to work |
| 22:27:57 | preglow | amiconn: i don't really think h1xx firmware is any kind of benchmark to measure them by, heh |
| 22:28:24 | amiconn | Does H3xx stock firmware play gapless? |
| 22:28:27 | preglow | you actually have to go out of your way to add gaps to music, i don't understand why everyone manages it |
| 22:28:31 | preglow | amiconn: oh no |
| 22:28:37 | preglow | amiconn: far from it, it adds gaps |
| 22:29:31 | ep0ch | preglow: probably because everyone waits for the playback buffer to be empty before decoding the next track? |
| 22:29:43 | preglow | why the hell would they do such a thing? |
| 22:29:50 | preglow | maybe they're just plain stupid |
| 22:30:02 | linuxstb | Maybe they have less threads (or no threads) running. |
| 22:30:04 | ep0ch | its not a requirement from there bosses :) |
| 22:30:06 | DomZ | no gap, does it means that when we listen the end of a track, the player begin to put the next track into buffer ? |
| 22:30:31 | preglow | linuxstb: i guess: no threads |
| 22:30:47 | ep0ch | end of the day, these coders just do what they're told to get paid, where as with rockbox, you guys care |
| 22:30:52 | preglow | DomZ: yes, it inserts the next track _right_ after the other track ends |
| 22:31:08 | preglow | hell no, i do it for free beer and the chicks |
| 22:31:12 | ep0ch | lol |
| 22:31:15 | DomZ | humm ok |
| 22:31:23 | ep0ch | is it working? |
| 22:31:23 | ep0ch | :) |
| 22:31:39 | preglow | tragically, no, i still pay for my own beer and i haven't even seen a chick today |
| 22:32:00 | preglow | my h120 has gotten a lot nicer, though |
| 22:32:08 | preglow | and i'm better at m68k assembler :P |
| 22:32:10 | ep0ch | probably cause you haven't got gapless mp3 working ;) |
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| 22:32:49 | linuxstb | Domz: We have two buffers - one containing compressed data loaded from disk, one containing uncompressed PCM data waiting to be sent to the DAC. If buffer two is never empty, you have gapless. Simple. |
| 22:33:32 | * | webguest22 wonders, pregloe hasn't seen a chick today and his h120 has gotten a lot nicer ? |
| 22:33:53 | DomZ | quite easy to understand, but not so easy to code i'm sure :) |
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| 22:34:46 | ep0ch | wb |
| 22:34:59 | preglow | webguest22: not that nice |
| 22:35:07 | webguest22 | heh |
| 22:37:11 | t0mas | sorry for the flood |
| 22:37:19 | t0mas | but I'm having something weird happening: |
| 22:37:20 | t0mas | 00000000 g F .text 0000000b main |
| 22:37:21 | t0mas | 0000000b g F .text 00000028 memcpy |
| 22:37:21 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK t0mas |
| 22:37:21 | t0mas | 00000033 g F .text 0000001e memset |
| 22:37:21 | t0mas | 00000051 g F .text 00000021 memsetw |
| 22:37:21 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 22:37:21 | t0mas | 00000072 g F .text 00000014 strlen |
| 22:37:22 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 22:37:22 | t0mas | 00000086 g F .text 0000000a inportb |
| 22:37:24 | t0mas | 00000090 g F .text 0000000c outportb |
| 22:37:33 | t0mas | that's an objdump of a .o file |
| 22:38:07 | t0mas | but in my book (and my teacher) try to teach me that GCC makes _main symbol |
| 22:38:17 | t0mas | so I should use extern _main in asm... |
| 22:38:19 | preglow | is it an elf file? |
| 22:38:26 | t0mas | yes |
| 22:38:29 | preglow | elf doesn't allow _ first in a symbol |
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| 22:38:34 | preglow | so that's no longer true |
| 22:38:38 | t0mas | ah, that's it... |
| 22:38:52 | t0mas | how do I make gcc output a flat binary? |
| 22:38:59 | DomZ | what about the fm radio of the iriver ? does it works ? |
| 22:39:23 | preglow | t0mas: objcopy does that |
| 22:39:23 | t0mas | DomZ: autriancoder has it working |
| 22:39:30 | t0mas | preglow: k tnx |
| 22:39:34 | DomZ | excellent !! |
| 22:39:58 | preglow | someone make austriancoder commit it! |
| 22:40:08 | DomZ | an idea when it will be committed to daily playlist ? |
| 22:40:13 | t0mas | yeah... it had some problems |
| 22:40:14 | t0mas | 2 weeks ago |
| 22:40:15 | preglow | daily playlist? :P |
| 22:40:19 | DomZ | euh daily build :p |
| 22:40:22 | t0mas | don't know what he did with it after that |
| 22:40:45 | preglow | DomZ: no idea, he managed to brick his player |
| 22:40:55 | DomZ | oups :s |
| 22:40:58 | webguest22 | austrian coder plugged 9v's into his iriver |
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| 22:41:23 | webguest22 | fried it |
| 22:41:30 | t0mas | :X |
| 22:41:32 | t0mas | duh... |
| 22:41:46 | t0mas | the regulators go upto 5 or 6 afaik? |
| 22:41:59 | webguest22 | 6.5 max 7 |
| 22:42:05 | bill20r3 | just the regulator? |
| 22:42:58 | webguest22 | his dad unwittingly changed the settings on his multi charger whilst washing his car, or so he says |
| 22:44:36 | t0mas | ouch... |
| 22:44:56 | webguest22 | sad indeed, |
| 22:44:59 | t0mas | maybe he can email me or someone else with time the code? |
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| 22:46:10 | amiconn | reboot brb |
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| 22:48:30 | HCl | well |
| 22:48:35 | HCl | it wasn't 9v, 7.5 |
| 22:48:39 | HCl | and it wasn't completely fried |
| 22:48:44 | HCl | but yes, glitching badly |
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| 22:49:41 | yngwi | i guess if i didn't live alone, i'd throw away all multichargers and nokia chargers.. |
| 22:50:27 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 22:50:56 | webguest22 | yep a few have plugged the nokia chargers into their players, only problem is that they're center pin negative |
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| 22:53:51 | t0mas | yngwi: nobody touches my iriver ;) |
| 22:53:54 | t0mas | problem solved |
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| 22:54:02 | * | HCl traded his nokia for a smartphone |
| 22:54:11 | yngwi | :-) |
| 22:54:20 | * | webguest22 wishes everyone sweet gapless dreams :) |
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| 23:07:30 | hubbel | webguest22: i've been using nokia chargers for more than 6 months i guess |
| 23:08:29 | hubbel | webguest22: seams like the iriver can handle reverse polarity? |
| 23:09:10 | HCl | ? |
| 23:09:24 | HCl | irivers fry on nokia chargers |
| 23:09:34 | preglow | oh yes |
| 23:10:16 | hubbel | ehm.. i've been using _only_ nokia charger for a long time now |
| 23:10:38 | t0mas | :| |
| 23:10:39 | preglow | kudos, then |
| 23:10:41 | hubbel | =) |
| 23:10:43 | preglow | you're an incredibly lucky man |
| 23:10:45 | t0mas | and it's still working? |
| 23:10:51 | hubbel | sure.. |
| 23:11:10 | preglow | i'd start using the original one, though |
| 23:11:14 | t0mas | man... you should send it to linus... and change for one of his players... just to give him a look at it |
| 23:11:18 | preglow | lower voltage doesn't do your battery any favours |
| 23:11:40 | hubbel | t0mas: hehe |
| 23:11:52 | hubbel | preglow: batteries are cheap? =) |
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| 23:14:29 | Bagder | evening LinusN |
| 23:15:57 | LinusN | evening |
| 23:19:28 | t0mas | hi LinusN |
| 23:19:41 | t0mas | have you read the logs? |
| 23:19:46 | t0mas | this one: |
| 23:19:46 | t0mas | [23:11:32] <hubbel> ehm.. i've been using _only_ nokia charger for a long time now |
| 23:20:00 | t0mas | on an iriver... have you any idea how that's possible? |
| 23:22:15 | LinusN | what voltage is this? |
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| 23:22:28 | bill20r3 | an original nokia one, or an aftermarket charger meant for a nokia? |
| 23:23:08 | hubbel | charger is marked 5.7v 800mA |
| 23:23:22 | LinusN | should work fine i guess |
| 23:23:28 | t0mas | yes, but the polarity is wrong for nokia chargers |
| 23:23:42 | LinusN | a little too high voltage, but it shouldn't damage it |
| 23:23:55 | t0mas | [22:52:10] <webguest22> yep a few have plugged the nokia chargers into their players, only problem is that they're center pin negative |
| 23:24:05 | t0mas | iriver is center pin + |
| 23:24:08 | LinusN | wow, i didn't know about the polarity |
| 23:24:44 | t0mas | but hubbel's iriver can handle it :S |
| 23:25:01 | LinusN | interesting |
| 23:25:51 | hubbel | very handy not having to carry nokia + iriver charger on trips and at work =) |
| 23:26:20 | LinusN | :-) |
| 23:26:40 | LinusN | i guess i'll have to investigate a little |
| 23:26:56 | mborus | hi - just wanted to post the the wavpack "bug" with short filenames is still in the current bleeding build... |
| 23:27:48 | mborus | Very short filenames like "1.wv" and "2.WV" are not accepted. Renaming them to something longer makes them playable on the H140.... |
| 23:30:55 | bill20r3 | wierd. |
| 23:31:10 | Bagder | very odd |
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| 23:32:23 | Bagder | mborus: is this happening with other codecs too? |
| 23:32:30 | MisticJeff | Hi Guys |
| 23:32:33 | Bagder | I mean with short names |
| 23:32:52 | MisticJeff | Be careful with that Nokia charger, several users have fried their units using one by mistake |
| 23:33:38 | mborus | badger, so far only wavpack. Tried Wav and mp3. I assume it's because the file extension is only 2 letters. |
| 23:34:10 | Bagder | yes, might be |
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| 23:35:07 | t0mas | somewhere someone might have used the 3 chars extension? |
| 23:35:13 | t0mas | so strip of 4 chars for filename... |
| 23:35:30 | t0mas | that works for .mp3 and .wav but not for .wv |
| 23:35:59 | linuxstb | I had a _very_ quick look for that bug and didn't see anything obvious. But maybe I missed it. |
| 23:36:50 | linuxstb | I've created a file called "1.wv", and it doesn't appear with a music symbol in file browser - so the problem is before playback.c |
| 23:37:30 | Bagder | it feels like a fat issue |
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| 23:37:48 | linuxstb | Could it be a sortname/longname thing? |
| 23:37:53 | linuxstb | ^shortname |
| 23:38:10 | Bagder | it seems likely |
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| 23:39:02 | hubbel | MisticJeff: been using it for a long time now, why would it suddenly fry? |
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| 23:39:51 | San | hey |
| 23:39:56 | JJ-Demon | hey |
| 23:40:10 | JJ-Demon | any devs here :D ? |
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| 23:42:04 | linuxstb | Badger: filetree.c line 243 :-). |
| 23:42:15 | JJ-Demon | i am wondering if there could be a port of rockbox to the gmini400... i am from gmini400.com and we have found an exploit to dump the firmware unencrypted... but we dont have enough devs to get any work started... |
| 23:42:16 | linuxstb | s/Badger/Bagder/ |
| 23:42:53 | LinusN | JJ-Demon: which cpu is it using? |
| 23:43:01 | amiconn | mborus: I think this short filename bug with wavpack isn't exactly a wavpack bug, but caused by the format 'detection' routine |
| 23:43:29 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes - the "len > 4" check in filetree.c, line 243. |
| 23:43:33 | amiconn | Oops, t0mas mentioned tha talready :) |
| 23:43:53 | * | amiconn should read the logs completely before commenting :/ |
| 23:43:53 | HCl | len >= 4 ? |
| 23:44:15 | t0mas | :) |
| 23:44:35 | JJ-Demon | it is using a TI DSP which has a ARM processor.. |
| 23:44:45 | JJ-Demon | hold on ill grab the spec sheet for you |
| 23:44:52 | LinusN | JJ-Demon: docs? |
| 23:45:40 | JJ-Demon | there is limited documentation :( |
| 23:46:04 | LinusN | how surprising |
| 23:46:34 | JJ-Demon | http://www.tij.co.jp/jsc/docs/apps/digital/pdf/tms320dm270.pdf |
| 23:46:46 | JJ-Demon | that seems to be the only information avail.. to the public anyway |
| 23:47:15 | LinusN | JJ-Demon: make a note in our Wiki, NonArchos |
| 23:47:22 | JJ-Demon | http://wiki.gmini400.com/index.php?title=Firmware_code_dump_exploit |
| 23:47:28 | amiconn | Iirc TI DSPs are a no-go - no open dev environment (?) |
| 23:47:37 | JJ-Demon | username: gminidev Password: boxrox |
| 23:48:12 | LinusN | amiconn: true |
| 23:48:39 | mborus | I'm off again - if I see more strange things I'll post it on the mailing list or come back here tomorrow... |
| 23:48:41 | mborus | Bye |
| 23:48:49 | amiconn | I think it's even worse than with calmrisc |
| 23:49:17 | LinusN | JJ-Demon: hehe, nice exploit |
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| 23:49:58 | LinusN | i gotta go now |
| 23:50:05 | JJ-Demon | ok |
| 23:50:06 | LinusN | cu around guys |
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| 23:51:55 | JJ-Demon | arg i gota go to work |
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