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| 01:07:35 | XavierGr | Hi All! |
| 01:18:32 | preglow | Bagder: the duplicate targets didn't go away... |
| 01:20:39 | XavierGr | yeah that is strange! |
| 01:20:52 | XavierGr | I can see 2 iriver builds for some days now |
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| 01:22:45 | XavierGr | preglow: do you use a win32 uisimulator for iriver? |
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| 01:26:18 | preglow | XavierGr: no |
| 01:26:36 | preglow | if you're going to ask why it doesn't work, we don't know |
| 01:27:01 | XavierGr | I cant get it to work. All compiles fine but when I try to run the actual .exe file windows pops-up a memory error and quits |
| 01:27:16 | preglow | like i said |
| 01:27:19 | preglow | we don't know why it does that |
| 01:27:32 | XavierGr | so it is a known proble,? |
| 01:27:34 | preglow | yes |
| 01:27:35 | preglow | very |
| 01:27:49 | XavierGr | I missed the logs |
| 01:27:54 | preglow | it's a very strange problem, so takes some time to solve |
| 01:28:03 | XavierGr | any alternatives? |
| 01:28:07 | preglow | none i knowof |
| 01:28:09 | preglow | they work fine here |
| 01:28:11 | preglow | but i gotta go |
| 01:28:12 | preglow | later |
| 01:28:16 | HCl | try colinux |
| 01:28:18 | HCl | ? |
| 01:28:18 | XavierGr | buy |
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| 01:28:45 | XavierGr | what is colinux? Another distro? |
| 01:29:12 | HCl | linux on windows |
| 01:29:32 | XavierGr | I have DSL embedded do you think it can do the work? |
| 01:29:39 | HCl | eh? |
| 01:29:44 | HCl | its local. |
| 01:30:19 | XavierGr | I mean Damn Small Linux that runs from qemu |
| 01:32:52 | XavierGr | HCl: So use colinux to build a X11 simulator? |
| 01:34:54 | HCl | yea |
| 01:35:00 | HCl | then use a windows x11 server to connect it to that. |
| 01:36:11 | XavierGr | so this bug is related to a specific build and onwards,right? |
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| 01:37:27 | Mishter-Nik | hey so what does the h300 appearing on the device chart mean? |
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| 01:38:55 | XavierGr | what to choose Gentoo or Debian? |
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| 01:40:14 | HCl | i'd choose debian. |
| 01:40:28 | HCl | Mishter-Nik: that defines need to be fixed. |
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| 01:41:02 | Mishter-Nik | huh? |
| 01:41:23 | linuxstb | XavierGr: It depends on your hardware. In my experience, Debian is one of the slowest distributions in supporting the lastest hardware, but it's my distribution of choice as well. |
| 01:41:34 | HCl | linuxstb: its a virtual machine. |
| 01:42:03 | Mishter-Nik | ive only tried debian based distros but i like gentoo |
| 01:42:15 | linuxstb | OK :-). I guess if Debian works for you, then there's no problem in that respect. |
| 01:42:23 | XavierGr | guess I will have to learn Linux in the end. I keep avoiding it, though I have repartioned my iHP with a Knoppix live cd to bbot on the go ;) |
| 01:44:43 | Mishter-Nik | this may be a stupi question but is linux on the rockbox team linus torvalds? |
| 01:44:52 | XavierGr | God I love openSource. All these great programs for free! OpenOffice, Gimp, Firefox e.t.c and of course various OS selection, why do I keep using Windows? |
| 01:44:59 | Mishter-Nik | torvals* |
| 01:45:22 | Mishter-Nik | cuz bill gates injected some kind of poison into ur food |
| 01:45:32 | Mishter-Nik | makgin u use windows |
| 01:45:46 | HCl | no, linus is not linus torvalds. |
| 01:45:49 | Mishter-Nik | ok |
| 01:46:03 | Mishter-Nik | theres been a little contraversy on mistic river |
| 01:46:20 | linuxstb | There's a surprise... |
| 01:46:21 | HCl | lmao. |
| 01:46:22 | HCl | idiots |
| 01:46:23 | HCl | xD |
| 01:46:47 | Mishter-Nik | lol |
| 01:47:03 | Mishter-Nik | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?p=257966&posted=1#post257966 |
| 01:47:24 | Mishter-Nik | so y is he linus? |
| 01:47:33 | Mishter-Nik | or is taht actualy his name |
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| 01:55:15 | HCl | it is actually his name. |
| 01:55:17 | HCl | why is that so odd. |
| 01:55:23 | HCl | its not like there's only one person called linus |
| 01:55:25 | HCl | in the world |
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| 02:26:14 | Mishter-Nik | its cuz im american |
| 02:26:21 | Mishter-Nik | im not used to the name |
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| 02:29:10 | leftright | navigating between the dir's and 'view current playlist' screen is not a user friendly experiance |
| 02:33:25 | leftright | perhaps move the 'view current playlist' menu to the same submenu as, " Playlist,Rename, Delete directory, Create directory " |
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| 10:48:42 | HCl | mrf |
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| 11:21:28 | HCl | hey t0mas |
| 11:21:42 | HCl | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=23512 <- funny. |
| 11:22:07 | HCl | that febs person is the only one with some form of brain, heh. |
| 11:22:13 | HCl | he's at least got it right |
| 11:26:18 | t0mas | hmz... |
| 11:26:26 | t0mas | didn't they see it are RED builds? |
| 11:26:30 | t0mas | so non working... :/ |
| 11:31:26 | t0mas | hm... is rockbox already swimming in the money? |
| 11:31:48 | t0mas | I read more and more posts from H3xx donators... |
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| 11:50:05 | HCl | probably... |
| 11:50:34 | HCl | its nice of them to donate, but it doesn't mean it will speed up development per-se :/ |
| 11:50:47 | HCl | we mostly need money to acquire hardware |
| 11:50:54 | HCl | and we already have all the hardware we need for h3x0 port, i think. |
| 11:50:58 | HCl | at least, linus does. |
| 11:53:37 | t0mas | yes... |
| 11:53:49 | t0mas | but maybe Bagder and Zagor can buy a H3xx too |
| 11:54:19 | t0mas | Slasheri: the lcd dimming... is there a global function to set the lcd level? |
| 11:54:28 | t0mas | might be funny to use as a peakmete |
| 11:54:32 | t0mas | *peakmeter |
| 11:54:41 | crwl | iAudio X5 seems pretty cool |
| 11:54:52 | * | HCl is fine with his iriver :) |
| 11:54:54 | crwl | it's damn thin, at least |
| 11:54:59 | HCl | especially when i finish the runtime database |
| 11:55:04 | HCl | the good news is that i'm getting better |
| 11:55:06 | crwl | it's more interesting than h3xx, i'd say ;) |
| 11:55:12 | HCl | headache went from a killer headache to a normal headache |
| 11:55:48 | Slasheri | t0mas: not yet. The problem is that constant dimming might eat more battery than it saves. |
| 11:55:51 | Slasheri | and hi all :) |
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| 11:56:00 | HCl | hey Slasheri |
| 11:56:28 | Slasheri | HCl: the event thing implementation requires some redesing to the buffering system and that will take some time |
| 11:56:50 | t0mas | Slasheri: I guess so... because it uses more cpu? |
| 11:56:53 | HCl | okies |
| 11:56:56 | t0mas | but I wanted a flashing iriver ;) |
| 11:57:05 | t0mas | peakmeter value -> lcd dim level |
| 11:57:09 | HCl | i'll probably start on the runtime db functions soon |
| 11:57:29 | HCl | probably as soon as i'm fully healed |
| 11:57:33 | Slasheri | t0mas: Yep, it generates two interrupts within 5 ms period while backlight is being dimmed. So that might cost some battery |
| 11:57:50 | t0mas | Slasheri: can I speed up the dimming a bit? |
| 11:58:04 | t0mas | change BL_PWM_INTERVAL ? |
| 11:58:13 | Slasheri | yes you can, it's currently on BL_SPEED define |
| 11:58:18 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 11:58:26 | t0mas | maybe that should be configurable |
| 11:58:36 | Slasheri | BL_DIM_SPEED in fact |
| 11:58:43 | t0mas | higher = faster? |
| 11:58:56 | Slasheri | yep.. anybody is welcome to write the configuration entries ;) |
| 11:59:03 | Slasheri | no, slower == faster |
| 11:59:11 | HCl | O.o. |
| 11:59:20 | HCl | lower is faster, i presume? |
| 11:59:22 | t0mas | slower == faster? you mean lower? |
| 11:59:30 | Slasheri | Also reducing BL_PWM_COUNT will result in faster dimming |
| 11:59:36 | Slasheri | ah, of course ;D |
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| 12:00:53 | Slasheri | Hmm.. In fact reducing any of the defines makes the fading faster |
| 12:00:56 | t0mas | brb |
| 12:01:36 | Slasheri | If you would like to test constant dimming, you should directly set bl_dim_current and disable timer deactivation |
| 12:06:10 | t0mas | hmhm |
| 12:06:35 | t0mas | My idea was to change dimming from the peakmeter |
| 12:06:47 | t0mas | as a nice vis. effect |
| 12:07:09 | Slasheri | Hmm, i will correct that timer should be never stopped while lcd is not dimmed to 0% or 100%. Then you just have to add a function to set the bl_dim_current directly |
| 12:07:18 | Slasheri | yes, that's possible |
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| 12:07:50 | t0mas | but it should be configurable |
| 12:08:01 | t0mas | not everybody likes chrismastree like DAP's ;) |
| 12:08:08 | Slasheri | of course ;) |
| 12:08:17 | Slasheri | feel free to add configuration entries |
| 12:08:19 | t0mas | gonna take a shower |
| 12:08:19 | t0mas | brb |
| 12:22:42 | HCl | bored :/ |
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| 12:39:32 | t0mas | HCl: go outside with your iriver and read a book... |
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| 12:40:01 | Moos | Hi all :) |
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| 12:44:14 | Moos | Bagder: problems with CVS table, the two last constructions of hubble and Slasheri don't apears |
| 12:48:15 | HCl | don't have my iriver |
| 12:48:22 | HCl | but i'm improving the searchengine |
| 12:48:46 | Moos | hi HCl |
| 12:49:06 | Moos | how do you feel? |
| 12:49:28 | Moos | better? |
| 12:51:09 | HCl | yea |
| 12:51:13 | HCl | headache is lessening |
| 12:53:38 | * | HCl scratches his head. |
| 12:56:45 | HCl | does anyone know how you're supposed to sort on two things at the same time? |
| 12:56:54 | HCl | say, most playcount and least recently played |
| 12:59:49 | linuxstb | HCl: You can't sort on two things at the same time - you have to sort on one item first, and then (where the first item is equal), sort on the second item. |
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| 13:00:06 | HCl | yea, but i'm not sure if that gives the desired functionality... |
| 13:00:07 | HCl | Select to create a running order composed of the most popular and most recently played tracks during a set amount of time. The most frequently played tracks are played first. Settings include 1 day (the default setting), 3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, 6 months, and 1 year. |
| 13:00:14 | HCl | thats my target |
| 13:00:27 | HCl | and i'm not sure how to implement that. |
| 13:01:00 | HCl | cause with the method you described, which is the method i know, you give one search thing more priority than the other. |
| 13:01:31 | linuxstb | One option would be to create two lists - the most popular, and the most recently played, and then interleave them in the playlist. |
| 13:01:35 | HCl | maybe i should create a function that eats both numbers and outputs a relative number |
| 13:01:38 | HCl | and sort on that. |
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| 13:01:52 | HCl | like, a high score should be high on the list |
| 13:02:05 | HCl | linuxstb: thats something completely different though. |
| 13:02:34 | HCl | i think a fictional sort score function should work.. |
| 13:02:45 | linuxstb | Yes, that would work. |
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| 13:03:22 | HCl | then i hit the dilemma of what defines the score.. |
| 13:04:06 | HCl | hrm.. |
| 13:04:12 | HCl | maybe its just as simple as adding them together |
| 13:05:19 | linuxstb | Adding what together? What units are you using for "recently played"? |
| 13:06:28 | HCl | nothing yet. |
| 13:06:48 | HCl | but i would probably use something like time passed since |
| 13:09:58 | linuxstb | I think the general way to do it would be to score each song on a scale of (e.g.) 0-100 on each of the criteria. You then need to assign weights to each criteria, and calculate a toital score. |
| 13:10:14 | HCl | yea... |
| 13:10:37 | HCl | i was thinking of something of playcount*100 divided by the time passed since it was last played.. |
| 13:10:48 | HCl | i'm not good at thinking up algorhythms. |
| 13:32:07 | linuxstb | HCl: I haven't been following the ID3 database development - are you completely rewriting it? |
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| 13:47:11 | HCl | no. |
| 13:47:25 | HCl | i just rewrote the documentation |
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| 13:49:46 | linuxstb | I thought you were rewriting the songdb program? |
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| 13:52:28 | webguest98 | any news on mp3 gapless ? |
| 13:53:33 | ashridah | webguest98: uh. it works well enough atm? :) |
| 13:54:09 | webguest98 | try Dark Side of the Moon |
| 13:54:19 | webguest98 | or beatles Abbey Road |
| 13:54:32 | webguest98 | or beatles White album |
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| 13:54:42 | webguest98 | or Pink floyd Final Cut |
| 13:55:21 | linuxstb | I think it depends how they have been encoded - there are still known problems that preglow is working on. |
| 13:55:41 | webguest98 | thank you |
| 13:56:08 | linuxstb | It's basically at the bug-fixing stage - i.e. it's been implemented, but not working 100% perfectly. |
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| 13:56:22 | webguest98 | thats good news indeed |
| 13:56:37 | linuxstb | But it's always the last 10% of the work that takes 90% of the time... |
| 13:56:59 | webguest98 | yes the devil is always in the details |
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| 14:01:39 | t0mas | hm |
| 14:01:47 | t0mas | this wheater is to good to code something... |
| 14:02:01 | t0mas | *weather |
| 14:02:55 | * | t0mas goes to his girlfriend.. swimming :D |
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| 14:12:02 | HCl | linuxstb: i did that too, mostly because i don't want to work with the perl chaos that the old script was |
| 14:12:14 | HCl | when it comes to adding runtime database support |
| 14:12:18 | HCl | which it'll need to have soon. |
| 14:12:37 | muesli- | high |
| 14:12:53 | HCl | low.. |
| 14:13:15 | * | muesli- yawns |
| 14:13:17 | muesli- | :D |
| 14:19:29 | Sucka | hey guys, would it be possible to have an alphabetical index down the side in ID3 tag mode so you can skip straight to a letter, like on the rio karma? |
| 14:24:53 | webguest98 | who is the interface designer, all of you or just one individual ? |
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| 14:26:16 | webguest61 | hi |
| 14:27:04 | webguest61 | is the backlight supposed to fade in as well as out on the latest build? |
| 14:27:12 | linuxstb | webguest98: I think the answer is "everyone" - developers and users all decide what the interface is like. It's just evolved over the past 3 years or so since Rockbox started. |
| 14:29:31 | webguest98 | well I'm hoping that someone will make the 'view current playlist' more user friendly/accessable :) |
| 14:30:25 | webguest61 | peak meters don't move :-) |
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| 14:33:37 | Sucka | phew, thought my iriver might have died for a second there |
| 14:33:51 | webguest98 | returning to the wps from different screens is messy, it would be nice to return to wps any time by pressing (side button) play |
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| 15:17:49 | Coldtoast | hi |
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| 16:01:28 | Audiophil | does anyone know how to use the screendump function ? |
| 16:09:16 | linuxstb | Audiophil: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ScreenDump |
| 16:09:36 | Audiophil | thank you! |
| 16:11:34 | Coldtoast | can't wail til rockbox is finished for Iriver |
| 16:14:04 | Audiophil | i hope it never finishes, but i'm really looking forward to a release |
| 16:14:17 | Coldtoast | why do you hope it never finishes? |
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| 16:16:20 | Audiophi| | mirc comeback! first time with mirc since last summer |
| 16:16:57 | Coldtoast | why do you hope rockbox for iriver is never finished? |
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| 16:17:24 | Audiophi| | finished means no further releases |
| 16:17:44 | Audiophi| | but i'm looking forward to the official releases |
| 16:17:44 | Coldtoast | to me "finished" means everything supported |
| 16:17:47 | Audiophi| | hehe |
| 16:18:04 | Coldtoast | it's nice at the moment tho |
| 16:18:12 | Coldtoast | very fast |
| 16:18:21 | Audiophi| | i'm looking forward to that too |
| 16:18:33 | Audiophi| | yeah, it's such an improvement |
| 16:19:02 | Audiophi| | thumbsup to linus and all the other devs |
| 16:19:49 | Audiophi| | i donated some money half a year ago, it was worth the waiting |
| 16:20:58 | Coldtoast | I updated to today's build and the fading backlight was a cute surprise |
| 16:22:26 | Audiophi| | yeah, it's nice |
| 16:22:51 | Audiophi| | i'm looking forward to starting on my education, so i can learn C too |
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| 17:04:19 | * | HCl rubs his eyes and stretches |
| 17:17:15 | ashridah | fuck. it took me 5 days, but i managed to finish the main storyline of san andreas. |
| 17:17:27 | ashridah | this game's fucking huge |
| 17:18:32 | ashridah | now i've got to find all the tags, horseshoes, and oysters, plus all the races and other shit. |
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| 18:30:01 | HCl | god |
| 18:30:04 | HCl | you finished it already? |
| 18:32:24 | ashridah | yeah. well. i had nothing else to do |
| 18:32:35 | ashridah | took me fucking AGES to get the hang of flying with a keyboard |
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| 18:34:37 | ashridah | i've had it since last tuesday, but since i had an exam to go, and my gm died, i've not been playing it 24x7. |
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| 18:41:56 | San | Hey |
| 18:44:44 | San | I have been away for the weekend and i dont know anything so far but could someone tell me if the port for the H300 has started yet? |
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| 18:47:03 | Coldtoast | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=a24ab8ed775867f337a79f3857912e05&board=6.0 |
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| 18:47:11 | Coldtoast | there you go San |
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| 18:47:52 | San | Thanks man |
| 18:48:09 | Coldtoast | np |
| 18:48:13 | linuxstb | Most of the code written for the H1x0 will be used in the H3x0 version - so in that respect, it has started. The latest activity has been to create an H3x0 "target" in the Rockbox code that can be used when the work on writing the H3x0 specific code starts. |
| 18:48:39 | linuxstb | As far as I know, no-one has starting writing any H3x0 specific stuff yet. |
| 18:48:45 | linuxstb | ^started |
| 18:48:52 | Coldtoast | I'm going to check out this bleedign edge build for my x140 I think |
| 18:49:07 | Coldtoast | x140=h140 |
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| 18:50:51 | San | Alright, Thanks Linuxstb |
| 18:51:50 | Coldtoast | I noticed there's less of that "POP" noise when pausing/unpausing with the latest release for h1x0 |
| 18:52:50 | webguest66 | its intermittant now, but better |
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| 18:58:23 | Coldtoast | with the bleeding edge build I get "Error accessing playlist control file" |
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| 19:08:50 | linuxstb | Coldtoast: What do you do to get that error? Can you repeat it? |
| 19:09:07 | Coldtoast | I can |
| 19:09:15 | Coldtoast | I now get it with the daily build |
| 19:09:47 | Coldtoast | before updating to bleedign edge, I deleted .rockbox, rockbox.iriver and root.m3u |
| 19:10:09 | Coldtoast | then copied the new .rockbox and rockbox.iriver bleedign edge |
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| 19:11:15 | Coldtoast | now Rockbox loads fine and everything but I get no tracklist and if I hit Play, I get that error |
| 19:11:55 | Coldtoast | on teh screen I just have the battery icon, volume icon, play status icon and repeat icon |
| 19:12:51 | linuxstb | It sounds like your .rockbox directory hasn't been created properly. You should unzip the rockbox.zip directly onto your iRiver. |
| 19:13:19 | Coldtoast | I'll do that right now then |
| 19:15:38 | Coldtoast | same thing |
| 19:15:56 | Coldtoast | it's asking me if I want to resume when I power on |
| 19:16:04 | Coldtoast | I hit YES and get that error |
| 19:16:23 | Coldtoast | if I choose NO then try and play something, same error |
| 19:16:40 | Coldtoast | I generated a new root.m3u using rockbox and same thing still |
| 19:16:41 | linuxstb | Did you increase the limits for the size of your playlists, or number of files in a directory? |
| 19:16:59 | Coldtoast | no |
| 19:17:14 | Coldtoast | where's that setting? |
| 19:17:55 | Coldtoast | found |
| 19:19:28 | linuxstb | Does increasing the playlist size help? You need to reboot your iriver for the changes to take effect. |
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| 19:19:35 | Coldtoast | what's teh playlist control file it's talking about? |
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| 19:20:10 | Coldtoast | didn't help, no. It was 10,000 so I increased to 11,000 |
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| 19:21:22 | linuxstb | I don't know that part of Rockbox very well, but it's a file created in the .rockbox directory called .playlist_control. |
| 19:21:38 | Coldtoast | I don't have it |
| 19:23:12 | linuxstb | Can you see the ".rockbox" directory in the file browser (assuming you have turned on "view all files"). |
| 19:24:38 | Coldtoast | aaah! I fixed it |
| 19:24:43 | Coldtoast | well, not fixed |
| 19:24:53 | Coldtoast | I had File View set to ID3 Tags |
| 19:25:14 | Coldtoast | proably not supported just yet |
| 19:25:48 | ashridah | damn, that backlight fadeout is sexy++ |
| 19:26:41 | Coldtoast | I'll be REALLY happy when I can do everythign via the LCD remote tho |
| 19:26:52 | Coldtoast | I rarely look at the LCD on my player |
| 19:26:56 | Coldtoast | always use the LCD remote |
| 19:27:29 | Coldtoast | hehe. and thank goodness they fixed Pause in the last few days |
| 19:28:11 | Coldtoast | whn I hit Stop, it fades out then volume kicks up for a split second then stops playing |
| 19:30:39 | HCl | file view id3 tags works fine. |
| 19:30:51 | HCl | you just gotta create a database |
| 19:31:12 | Coldtoast | using TDT or something? |
| 19:32:10 | Coldtoast | actually, when the EQ gets more advanced will be nice too |
| 19:32:17 | HCl | tdt? |
| 19:32:21 | HCl | no. there are tools on the wiki |
| 19:37:51 | Coldtoast | Tag & Rename sorry |
| 19:38:01 | Coldtoast | s'what I like |
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| 19:38:51 | Coldtoast | generated tdt.db |
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| 19:43:56 | San | Hey, Where do you get to preview thing for the WPS? |
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| 19:56:54 | Tangleding | Hi MOOS |
| 19:56:55 | Tangleding | :) |
| 19:57:12 | Moos | hi Tang |
| 19:57:15 | Moos | :) |
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| 20:08:58 | CoCoLUS | lol |
| 20:09:00 | CoCoLUS | @ f1 |
| 20:09:04 | CoCoLUS | six cars! |
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| 20:12:56 | XavierGr | Hi everybody |
| 20:13:07 | tvelocity | hey XavierGr |
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| 20:18:35 | Tangleding | Hello Xavier |
| 20:18:37 | Tangleding | :) |
| 20:19:15 | Tangleding | Nice to see that even Rbx coders take some rest for WE... ;) |
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| 20:22:14 | Slasheri | Hmm, does anybody know how fast is the dram writing & reading at 120 MHz? |
| 20:22:40 | tvelocity | WE = ? |
| 20:22:46 | CoCoLUS | weekend |
| 20:22:52 | tvelocity | ok |
| 20:22:53 | tvelocity | :P |
| 20:23:37 | Tangleding | :) |
| 20:23:41 | Tangleding | indeed |
| 20:25:05 | Tangleding | 13.55.21 # <linuxstb> I think it depends how they have been encoded - there are still known problems that preglow is working on. |
| 20:25:19 | Tangleding | in fact preglow is not working on it anymore catually |
| 20:25:32 | Tangleding | he changed his pririty |
| 20:28:09 | Tangleding | 06.29.24 # <shad0w1e> yo can i get a remote for a v2 recorder??? |
| 20:28:19 | Tangleding | is this remote same as a JBM20 one? |
| 20:29:16 | XavierGr | Hi Tangleding |
| 20:29:22 | Tangleding | Hi XavierGr |
| 20:29:24 | Tangleding | :) |
| 20:29:40 | Tangleding | was reading latest IRC logs |
| 20:29:42 | Tangleding | ;) |
| 20:30:25 | XavierGr | is someone working for the remote screen support of iriver? |
| 20:32:53 | Tangleding | Good question |
| 20:33:08 | Tangleding | i wonder if t0mas wasn't? |
| 20:33:54 | DrMouss | hi guys |
| 20:34:16 | XavierGr | I tried to make something but currently the sim doesnt works in Windows and there is no sim for the remote as I remember |
| 20:34:19 | DrMouss | t0mas working on WPS and keys for remote suport |
| 20:34:19 | Tangleding | Hi :) |
| 20:34:37 | Tangleding | so i wasn't to mistaking |
| 20:34:42 | Tangleding | i go dinner |
| 20:34:44 | DrMouss | and amiconn will work in the graphical suport soon |
| 20:34:54 | Tangleding | C U soon |
| 20:34:57 | Tangleding | (or not) |
| 20:34:59 | DrMouss | bonne appétit |
| 20:34:59 | Tangleding | bye |
| 20:35:10 | DrMouss | ciao |
| 20:35:51 | Slasheri | Hmm, this needs some optimizations, it's not realtime :/ : |
| 20:35:53 | Slasheri | | buf[i] = ((buf[i] * ((crossfade_rem)*1000/crossfade_amount))/1000) |
| 20:35:53 | Slasheri | | + ((buf2[i] * ((crossfade_amount-crossfade_rem)*1000/crossfade_amount))/1000); |
| 20:36:17 | DrMouss | :-( |
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| 20:39:47 | leftright | Hi Slaheri, has the fade been been changed to instant on ? |
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| 20:40:14 | Slasheri | leftright: There will be a menu option to configure that |
| 20:40:23 | leftright | ah thanks |
| 20:40:31 | Slasheri | (when somebody has time to do it :) |
| 20:40:37 | leftright | np |
| 20:44:22 | DrMouss | Hi Slasheri, have you got any news about FF/RW problems to fix ? |
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| 20:47:33 | Slasheri | DrMouss: Some backwards seeking is still buggy, some track changing problems are fixed |
| 20:47:36 | Slasheri | -some |
| 20:48:04 | Slasheri | *were fixed |
| 20:48:10 | HCl | Slasheri: whats the * 1000 / 1000 needed for? |
| 20:48:24 | DrMouss | Slasheri: oki thanks |
| 20:48:41 | Slasheri | HCl: fixed point arithmetics because we don't have a hardware floating point unit |
| 20:49:07 | DrMouss | linuxstb work on it, no? |
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| 20:53:33 | linuxstb | Work on what? |
| 20:54:27 | HCl | ah.... |
| 20:54:43 | telliott | Are the songs,db tools working yet? |
| 20:54:48 | HCl | yup. |
| 20:55:02 | HCl | they haven't been broken as far as i know. |
| 20:56:14 | telliott | I'm getting an error message. I'll try again. |
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| 21:00:43 | XavierGr | Slasheri: What about the infamous clicks when audio starts and changing songs? |
| 21:01:25 | Slasheri | XavierGr: now there should be no pause in audio playback when you change to a next song |
| 21:03:41 | telliott | Here is the error I'm getting when running makedb.bat |
| 21:03:43 | telliott | Can't locate strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: .) at vorbiscomm.pm line 12. |
| 21:03:44 | telliott | BEGIN failed−−compilation aborted at vorbiscomm.pm line 12. |
| 21:03:44 | telliott | Compilation failed in require at songdb.pl line 10. |
| 21:03:44 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK telliott |
| 21:03:44 | telliott | BEGIN failed−−compilation aborted at songdb.pl line 10. |
| 21:03:46 | XavierGr | no I am not talking about pauses I am talking about a pop (click) that occurs in track switching. I will test again to seee |
| 21:04:11 | Slasheri | XavierGr: yep, there should be no click because there are no pause |
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| 21:05:58 | Acksaw | Hello |
| 21:06:26 | Acksaw | anyone here? |
| 21:07:07 | Acksaw | guess not |
| 21:07:07 | tvelocity | no, 57 persons only |
| 21:07:13 | Acksaw | ? |
| 21:07:28 | telliott | I think the programmers have private chats. |
| 21:07:30 | Acksaw | sorry im new to IRC i dont understand |
| 21:07:32 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 21:07:53 | Acksaw | so you own a player? |
| 21:08:02 | telliott | Recorder |
| 21:08:12 | Acksaw | archos im guessing? |
| 21:08:21 | Slasheri | telliott: no, we don't talk in private about rockbox |
| 21:08:38 | Acksaw | i have iriver h320 US edition |
| 21:09:14 | Tangleding | i have a question for prog: |
| 21:09:16 | Acksaw | looks like Rockbox is gonna be making FW for the h300 series next, cant wait |
| 21:09:34 | Tangleding | is the speed accelration bug pattern known or not |
| 21:09:36 | Tangleding | ? |
| 21:09:40 | Acksaw | i hear it wouldnt take too long either as the hardware is similar to the h100's |
| 21:09:50 | Tangleding | If not i can search to report it |
| 21:10:18 | Tangleding | (the bug occured yesterday as i was hearing music to sleep with sleep timer) |
| 21:11:14 | XavierGr | Slasheri: Did you fix the popping on the newer build? Because I can still hear the pops just before the song begins |
| 21:12:19 | Acksaw | can anyone confirm that the programmers are planning to make h300 fw? |
| 21:12:31 | Slasheri | XavierGr: Hmm, i think the bleeding edge builds are not working at all at the moment :/ |
| 21:12:37 | Slasheri | You have to wait for a daily build |
| 21:12:49 | Slasheri | or compile yourself from cvs |
| 21:12:58 | XavierGr | dont work? |
| 21:13:13 | Slasheri | yep, there are no bleeding edge builds at all from today |
| 21:13:31 | Tangleding | The H3xx port is nearly planned |
| 21:13:39 | Tangleding | but no date |
| 21:13:52 | telliott | Looks like I need to install a proper Pearl. Where can I get it? |
| 21:14:05 | telliott | perl |
| 21:14:12 | Tangleding | nervertheless LinusN who released iHP1xx bootloader had bought an H3xx and own it |
| 21:14:13 | Tangleding | :) |
| 21:14:37 | Tangleding | http://www.perl.com/download.csp |
| 21:14:40 | Tangleding | (google) |
| 21:15:09 | telliott | Thanks. |
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| 21:16:17 | Acksaw | thats brilliant, cant wait for this now1 |
| 21:16:38 | Tangleding | you'll have to way anyway ;) |
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| 21:17:32 | Tangleding | no one know about this: |
| 21:17:48 | XavierGr | time for dinner later |
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| 21:18:04 | Tangleding | if the playback speed acceleration bug pattern is known or not? |
| 21:18:24 | Tangleding | i'm really free for making some "empiric" search on this |
| 21:18:35 | Tangleding | if it's still unexplained |
| 21:19:31 | | Nick Febs_away is now known as Febs (~chatzilla@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) |
| 21:19:41 | HCl | hm. its febs |
| 21:20:07 | Febs | Hi folks. HCl, thanks for recognizing I have a brain! |
| 21:20:11 | HCl | :P |
| 21:20:14 | Tangleding | hi febs |
| 21:20:16 | Tangleding | :) |
| 21:20:19 | Tangleding | lol |
| 21:20:23 | HCl | its not too hard between the rest of misticriver ;p |
| 21:20:28 | Tangleding | :D |
| 21:20:48 | Tangleding | i don't know if they have brain |
| 21:21:08 | Tangleding | but they are nicely doted concerning lazziness |
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| 21:21:09 | Tangleding | ;) |
| 21:21:14 | Acksaw | hmm |
| 21:21:25 | Acksaw | mIRC confuses me |
| 21:21:52 | Febs | Tang: I read the other day that resampling is not yet implemented, so files sampled at less than 44100kHz will playback fast. |
| 21:22:03 | Febs | That may be the speed acceleration bug you're referring to. |
| 21:22:44 | Tangleding | okay it's that |
| 21:22:47 | Tangleding | thnaks |
| 21:22:55 | Tangleding | i was nearly sleeping |
| 21:23:05 | Tangleding | so i didn't noticed the file spécification |
| 21:23:10 | Tangleding | (frequency) |
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| 21:27:52 | Acksaw | anyone have an iriver here? |
| 21:29:18 | Tangleding | what iRiver? |
| 21:29:31 | Tangleding | i own an iHP140 |
| 21:29:48 | Acksaw | nice |
| 21:29:56 | Acksaw | i got a h320 |
| 21:30:02 | Acksaw | wish i got a h340 now |
| 21:34:13 | Acksaw | the new archos x5 looks awesome |
| 21:34:50 | leftright | so buy it |
| 21:35:22 | Acksaw | i have an mp3 player already |
| 21:35:34 | leftright | really ? |
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| 21:48:46 | Slasheri | Oh, i got crossfader speed problem fixed. Now it uses pre-calculated values and is realtime: buf[i] = ((buf[i] * val1) + (buf2[i] * val2)) / 1000; |
| 21:58:15 | XavierGr | what options do you think that the crossfader must have? |
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| 21:58:40 | Slasheri | maybe crossfade buffer size should be configurable |
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| 22:04:08 | XavierGr | Hi Linus! |
| 22:04:12 | LinusN | yo |
| 22:04:28 | amiconn | hiya |
| 22:05:00 | Tangleding | hello Amiconn and Linus :) |
| 22:05:04 | XavierGr | Linus: Any ideas about the windows iriver simulator bug? |
| 22:05:19 | XavierGr | oh amiconn joined too? |
| 22:05:22 | XavierGr | hi amiconn |
| 22:06:03 | LinusN | XavierGr: no |
| 22:06:39 | XavierGr | so we dont have a single clue for what it is causing it... |
| 22:07:20 | LinusN | no, not yet |
| 22:07:28 | XavierGr | *sigh* |
| 22:09:03 | amiconn | XavierGr: Talking 'bout the crashes of sims on windows? |
| 22:09:26 | XavierGr | yeah! |
| 22:09:35 | amiconn | I tracked down what commit introduced that. Turned out to be the initial checkin of iriver playback code |
| 22:09:55 | amiconn | However, I don't know *why* this causes the weird crashes |
| 22:10:19 | XavierGr | yeah becaise choice 1 in the configure script (dont remember which model) runs fine |
| 22:10:21 | LinusN | fixed it just now |
| 22:10:39 | XavierGr | so the simalator works now? |
| 22:10:46 | LinusN | yes, commit coming soon |
| 22:11:01 | amiconn | XavierGr: All sims except h1x0 are running fine |
| 22:11:10 | amiconn | LinusN: What was the solution? |
| 22:11:38 | LinusN | native builds don't like .idata and .icode |
| 22:12:07 | amiconn | Ah, that thing again.... |
| 22:12:20 | XavierGr | at last I thought it was my fault |
| 22:12:21 | amiconn | We already had that once... |
| 22:12:40 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 22:12:40 | * | amiconn is surprised about the huge number of commits during the weekend |
| 22:12:41 | LinusN | time for the IDATA/ICODE macros |
| 22:12:43 | XavierGr | what about a remote simulator? |
| 22:12:58 | LinusN | XavierGr: we have that on the x11 version |
| 22:13:06 | amiconn | Seems I need to do a few things more than planned in the next week |
| 22:13:32 | amiconn | XavierGr: I'm thinking about adding that to the win32 sim as well, but I need to prioritise... |
| 22:13:56 | * | amiconn wants 48 hours per day :-/ |
| 22:14:25 | LinusN | fix committed |
| 22:14:36 | amiconn | :-) |
| 22:14:58 | amiconn | It's strange that it worked in linux... |
| 22:15:25 | amiconn | Btw, why don't the now-empty columns in the build table vanish? |
| 22:16:47 | LinusN | amiconn: good question |
| 22:19:54 | XavierGr | yeah |
| 22:20:27 | Slasheri | crossfade fixed, works now much better |
| 22:22:14 | * | amiconn has to try fading backlight |
| 22:22:20 | amiconn | *try out |
| 22:24:25 | DrMouss | Hi Linus |
| 22:24:30 | DrMouss | and amiconn |
| 22:25:05 | Stryke` | Slasheri: the bug fixes mentioned in your second latest commit, do they address the repeating songs and skipping songs? |
| 22:25:41 | Slasheri | maybe, maybe not. i am not sure but the fixes should correct some problems :) |
| 22:25:47 | DrMouss | Linus: Why all the dailys constructions don't apears in CVS table |
| 22:26:05 | Slasheri | Stryke`: please note that bleeding edge builds are currently out of order |
| 22:26:37 | Stryke` | yeah, i see |
| 22:27:16 | Stryke` | i was using rockbox on a long road trip and began to notice the weirdness |
| 22:27:37 | amiconn | LinusN: Now the build table rows are messed up... |
| 22:28:28 | LinusN | amiconn: don't worry |
| 22:29:09 | LinusN | DrMouss: what do you mean |
| 22:29:10 | LinusN | ? |
| 22:30:11 | DrMouss | todays there are 4 or 5 commitings but don't apears in the table with timstamp... |
| 22:30:15 | DrMouss | apear just in logs |
| 22:31:17 | DrMouss | in the table the last build dated at yesterday |
| 22:32:26 | LinusN | hmmmm |
| 22:32:53 | DrMouss | scuse for this question :-) |
| 22:35:25 | Bagder | my fault, me fix |
| 22:35:43 | DrMouss | hi Bagder |
| 22:36:42 | Bagder | hi ho |
| 22:37:00 | DrMouss | wooh it's fine now, it's updated |
| 22:37:24 | DrMouss | just colums problems |
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| 22:37:41 | Bagder | they're not problems actually |
| 22:37:50 | DrMouss | :) |
| 22:37:56 | preglow | amiconn: it seems the iriver firmware (like the archos firmware) decreases the main volume when you increase eq |
| 22:38:03 | Bagder | I explained the reason for the gaps on the list |
| 22:39:08 | amiconn | preglow: I also got the impression that more than a few db of treble/bass lead to clipping in rockbox |
| 22:39:41 | amiconn | However, I don't believe this is due to too high main volume, since I'm usually listening at fairly low volume |
| 22:39:43 | preglow | amiconn: it's a fact |
| 22:39:55 | preglow | amiconn: at loudest volume, it clips instantly |
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| 22:40:43 | amiconn | Maybe we need to lower the mixer volume (and could increase main volume accordingly as long as it's not at 100% yet) |
| 22:41:00 | amiconn | Similar to the MAS3507 prescaler... |
| 22:41:06 | preglow | a naive approach of decreasing the main volume by max(trebleboost, bassboost) if volume max(trebleboost, bassboost) exceeds 0db might work okish |
| 22:41:22 | amiconn | I don't think so |
| 22:41:24 | preglow | there's a plus sign missing there |
| 22:41:54 | preglow | well, we dont have very many options, i sure as hell dont know what kind of filters the internal eq uses |
| 22:41:54 | amiconn | E.g. it also clips when I have bass at 6 dB but volume at 50% (which is < -40 dB) |
| 22:42:04 | preglow | although it's probably 1st order shelving filters |
| 22:42:16 | preglow | ahh |
| 22:42:21 | preglow | then it's a digital eq |
| 22:42:25 | amiconn | ...so I believe the clipping occurs _before_ the main volume |
| 22:42:31 | preglow | digital filters, i mean |
| 22:42:41 | preglow | then we need to decrease the volume ourselves |
| 22:42:54 | amiconn | ... and I hope mixer volume happens before treble/bass |
| 22:43:05 | preglow | yes, unless that's the case |
| 22:43:05 | * | amiconn takes a look into the uda manual |
| 22:43:49 | linuxstb | I see David Bryant has added tag support for Wavpack (apev2 tags). Does anyone know if he's working on wavpack encoding, or has plans in that direction? |
| 22:44:10 | LinusN | i have no idea |
| 22:45:01 | amiconn | preglow: Take a look at page 17 of the uda1380 datasheet :) |
| 22:45:37 | amiconn | deemphasis -> mixer volume -> treble&bass -> interpolation filter -> master volume |
| 22:45:57 | preglow | w00t |
| 22:46:10 | preglow | then we're fine |
| 22:46:24 | preglow | linuxstb: that's the plan |
| 22:46:28 | preglow | linuxstb: he'll be starting on that now |
| 22:46:49 | preglow | linuxstb: that's wrong, btw, he's going to do a few other opts, then work on encoding |
| 22:47:03 | amiconn | preglow: So basically we need to decrease mixer volume by MAX(treble_boost, bass_boost) and can increase master volume to compensate |
| 22:47:17 | amiconn | ...unless it already is at 0 dB |
| 22:47:29 | preglow | myep |
| 22:47:31 | amiconn | ....exactly what the mas3507d prescaler does |
| 22:47:45 | amiconn | I know these routines... |
| 22:47:53 | preglow | we might also get away with less decreasing of volume, depending on where the shelving filter cuts |
| 22:47:57 | XavierGr | Slasheri: I made a test again. The click (pop) occurs most of the time even with just pausing. You can hear it clearly with the fade ou/in effect |
| 22:47:59 | preglow | but for now, it'll do |
| 22:48:03 | preglow | i don't care anyhow |
| 22:48:19 | preglow | but this very same routine will be needed for my eq as well, but then we need to do the prescale in software :/ |
| 22:48:31 | amiconn | yup |
| 22:48:43 | amiconn | Software eq should be optional |
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| 22:49:02 | preglow | sure, it wont be activated unless you actually do some adjusting |
| 22:49:15 | amiconn | It would then be somewhat equivalent to the MAS MDB feature, at least in handling |
| 22:49:37 | preglow | we might also end up with a replaygain gainer step |
| 22:49:38 | preglow | hmm |
| 22:49:41 | amiconn | I wonder whether we'd be able to do a similar bass processing... |
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| 22:49:51 | LinusN | should be possible |
| 22:51:09 | amiconn | Okay, we need mixer channel 1 for playback... |
| 22:51:47 | preglow | similar bass processing to what? |
| 22:52:17 | amiconn | To MDB |
| 22:52:55 | amiconn | preglow: mixer volume also uses a nonlinear dB->value mapping, and it's even different from the one used for main volume... |
| 22:53:19 | preglow | MDB ? |
| 22:53:25 | preglow | do you know what it does? |
| 22:53:36 | LinusN | psychoacoustic bass enhancement |
| 22:53:39 | preglow | amiconn: we could do a lookup table to avoid all that nasty conditional volume mapping |
| 22:53:39 | amiconn | Micronas dynamic bass; we already talked about it a while ago |
| 22:53:41 | preglow | ahh |
| 22:53:43 | preglow | that |
| 22:53:52 | preglow | yeah, that should be possible |
| 22:53:59 | preglow | assuming it's not patented |
| 22:54:10 | LinusN | there are lots of patents in that area |
| 22:54:31 | preglow | then again, does that matter in sweden? it's surely not patented there |
| 22:54:45 | amiconn | preglow: I already though about a lookup table, but that would make life harder if we want to change our volume scale some day |
| 22:54:54 | preglow | indeed |
| 22:55:00 | LinusN | i'd follow Linus Torvalds example |
| 22:55:13 | LinusN | and not even think about patents |
| 22:56:18 | preglow | i don't really think we need to |
| 22:56:20 | preglow | anyway |
| 22:56:40 | preglow | but no |
| 22:56:41 | preglow | i agree |
| 22:57:10 | preglow | i'll let the patent lawyers, may they scream in hell, take care about that |
| 22:57:33 | amiconn | preglow: Now that we also need prescaling for UDA, I'm thinking about some code generalisation in sound.c, using range #defines |
| 22:58:07 | amiconn | The only hw specific things would then be the value to register mapping(s) and the actual driver calls |
| 22:58:42 | preglow | well, if it's doable, sure |
| 22:59:05 | amiconn | I think it is; the code uses 1/10 dB values internally for both |
| 22:59:12 | amiconn | ...only the usable ranges are different |
| 22:59:20 | preglow | yeah, but the uda volume curve has more breakpoints, no? |
| 22:59:53 | amiconn | Yes, the mapping functions are of course specific |
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| 23:04:22 | preglow | but yeah |
| 23:04:24 | preglow | i gotta go |
| 23:04:28 | preglow | have fun |
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| 23:07:44 | muesli- | high |
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| 23:08:13 | XavierGr | hi |
| 23:08:24 | XavierGr | high means tall |
| 23:08:26 | XavierGr | lol |
| 23:08:44 | muesli- | i am 1,80m in size ;) |
| 23:08:55 | XavierGr | you got me... |
| 23:09:16 | muesli- | :D |
| 23:09:26 | muesli- | you are forgiven.. |
| 23:09:38 | XavierGr | seriously though sometimesI type now insteda of know or buy instead of bye |
| 23:10:26 | Nibbler | i know this... |
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| 23:12:02 | hubbel | Anyone tried recording? |
| 23:15:28 | Bagder | only with my VCR :*) |
| 23:16:27 | hubbel | :D |
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| 23:18:49 | XavierGr | Yeah iriver records fine except thos 100ms at start |
| 23:20:02 | hubbel | XavierGr: do you always get that or just sometimes? |
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| 23:20:41 | XavierGr | as the dev says always you? |
| 23:21:33 | XavierGr | have to go later all |
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| 23:21:45 | muesli- | good buy... |
| 23:22:36 | hubbel | ? |
| 23:23:25 | Nibbler | hrhr |
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| 23:30:43 | amiconn | Hmm, mixer volume also uses a 4-staged curve, and the transitions are shifted by 6 dB compared to master volume |
| 23:34:13 | amiconn | LinusN: Do you think using lookup tables would be better? What if we want to switch to a different scale than 0..100 some time? |
| 23:34:48 | LinusN | i prefer dB |
| 23:35:09 | amiconn | Lookup tables for 1/10 dB would get too large imho |
| 23:35:50 | amiconn | The advantage of using lookup tables would be that they could go into the driver (uda1380.c / dac.c) so sound.c would be a bit less hardware dependent |
| 23:36:30 | amiconn | (because then the prescaling and balance handling would use the same scale for all hardwares (that need this handling) - 0..100 |
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| 23:46:19 | ep0ch | evenin' all |
| 23:46:24 | ep0ch | quick question |
| 23:46:52 | ep0ch | is audio on the bleeding edge build for ihp still working? |
| 23:50:51 | muesli- | btw bleeding edge? how to translate this?? |
| 23:52:13 | Stryke` | newest (build based on latest changes to cvs) |
| 23:52:50 | muesli- | yeah..i mean..sounds quite rude!? |
| 23:52:54 | Bagder | the term bleeding edge is an expression that probably doesn't translate very well if done on the exact wording |
| 23:53:17 | Bagder | why rude? |
| 23:53:20 | muesli- | jo..thats y i am asking |
| 23:53:37 | muesli- | ok, not rude..ut bleeding? |
| 23:53:40 | muesli- | edge? |
| 23:53:41 | muesli- | ;) |
| 23:53:44 | muesli- | but |
| 23:53:49 | Bagder | edge => the front |
| 23:53:56 | Bagder | the very latest |
| 23:54:11 | muesli- | yeah..makes sense..sounds like an idiom |
| 23:54:40 | LinusN | ep0ch: it doesn't work for you? |
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| 23:55:22 | Bagder | muesli-: "Etymology: play on the term `leading edge'" |
| 23:55:49 | Bagder | (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=bleeding+edge) |
| 23:55:58 | muesli- | why isnt the grayscalepatch included in further rls? i mean its working fine (except of jpg-views) |
| 23:56:16 | Bagder | because it isn't done right |
| 23:57:18 | |ep0ch | nah just tried, it works for me, could have sworn i read it had broke... |
| 23:57:39 | muesli- | Bagder its working fine for me |
| 23:57:45 | Bagder | it works, yes |
| 23:57:50 | Bagder | but it is slooooow |
| 23:57:59 | muesli- | had no problems.. |
| 23:58:03 | Bagder | because it takes shortcuts |
| 23:58:09 | Bagder | that we don't approve of |
| 23:58:10 | muesli- | loved playing rockboy with it |
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| 23:58:53 | Bagder | you are free to use it |
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