| 00:00:06 | LinusN | how did you find out? |
| 00:00:20 | preglow | the halo |
| 00:00:21 | psycho_maniac420 | and i figured out how to have loud enoguh volume to listen to it while mowing the lawn haha |
| 00:00:25 | preglow | it's a dead giveaway |
| 00:00:26 | OnkelJonas | oh... its just that each loaded image gets a number right? (so max 10) |
| 00:01:17 | psycho_maniac420 | somebody wanna show me a screen shot of a image on there wps? sound intresting |
| 00:01:27 | OnkelJonas | theres one at the forum |
| 00:01:45 | OnkelJonas | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=2308 |
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| 00:02:15 | amiconn | grmpf. |
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| 00:03:18 | psycho_maniac999 | thanks |
| 00:03:42 | psycho_maniac999 | pressed wrong button |
| 00:10:28 | psycho_maniac999 | could you give me the link to that picture again. sorry i lost it |
| 00:10:36 | OnkelJonas | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=2308 |
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| 00:10:47 | preglow | there, pretty pretty codecs |
| 00:10:56 | preglow | gotta go, then |
| 00:10:56 | preglow | later |
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| 00:12:56 | psycho_maniac999 | looks ciool |
| 00:13:26 | Moxon | LinusN: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/save/Main/IriverTesting Wish me luck ;) |
| 00:14:27 | OnkelJonas | is there anything wrong with %x1|images/logo.bmp|10|10 ? its the first line in my wps, and my player freezes when i start plaing (wps works fine without the image) |
| 00:15:12 | t0mas | psycho_maniac999: the first image on rockbox wps ever: http://tomas.salfischberger.nl/rockbox/wps-test.png ;-) |
| 00:15:45 | OnkelJonas | image is .rockbox/images/logo.bmp 1bpp |
| 00:16:02 | LinusN | Moxon: look ok, maybe we should have a defined set of files to test with, amiconn has a good start for mp3 |
| 00:16:27 | amiconn | I should encode a layer 1 set as well |
| 00:16:37 | psycho_maniac999 | where do i get the simulator? |
| 00:16:43 | LinusN | OnkelJonas: how big is the image? |
| 00:16:50 | amiconn | Currently I have the same song, encoded as layer2 and layer3, all possible bitrates |
| 00:16:52 | LinusN | psycho_maniac999: you build it |
| 00:17:04 | amiconn | ...and all possible sampling frequencies |
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| 00:17:13 | psycho_maniac999 | oh |
| 00:17:19 | amiconn | 210 files, 6012 MB |
| 00:17:23 | amiconn | bah 601 MB |
| 00:17:41 | LinusN | psycho_maniac999: the simulator is almost only useful for developers |
| 00:17:56 | t0mas | and for screenshotting tests ;) |
| 00:18:01 | LinusN | amiconn: holy moses |
| 00:18:07 | amiconn | I could encode the same set as other formats, as I still have the .wav sources |
| 00:18:21 | psycho_maniac999 | ok then its not for me.... |
| 00:18:48 | amiconn | layer 1 might take a while; the only layer1 encoder I have is running on Amiga |
| 00:18:55 | amiconn | ...but it's a good one |
| 00:20:00 | psycho_maniac999 | it sure is |
| 00:21:29 | psycho_maniac999 | what is stereo width? |
| 00:21:55 | Moxon | LinusN: yes a set of files will a good thing. But they should be free files to avoid any legal troubles! |
| 00:22:10 | LinusN | Moxon: of course |
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| 00:22:24 | Moxon | amiconn: are you online? |
| 00:23:29 | psycho_maniac999 | g2g |
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| 00:25:28 | wacky_ | I have an .ogg file that breaks playback on the Rockbox |
| 00:25:41 | wacky_ | http://ip.bourget.cc:8080/dump/ahuh.ogg |
| 00:25:53 | wacky_ | I have CVS from two days ago |
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| 00:28:20 | wacky_ | LinusN - you read what I just said ?! :) |
| 00:28:41 | amiconn | LinusN: How would I change my email address for the mailing list? |
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| 00:29:14 | LinusN | wacky_: try the latest bleeding edge |
| 00:29:26 | wacky_ | you think the Q10 stuff will have that fixed ? |
| 00:30:02 | Bagder | amiconn: subscribe the new, unsubscribe the old |
| 00:30:07 | wacky_ | ogginfo says: Negative granulepos on vorbis stream outside of headers. This file was created by a buggy encoderNegative granulepos on vorbis stream outside of headers. This file was created by a buggy encoder |
| 00:30:12 | wacky_ | oops.. |
| 00:30:24 | amiconn | Bagder: ok |
| 00:30:40 | wacky_ | but it plays well on some other players |
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| 00:31:14 | wacky_ | hmm.. I'll have to look into this later |
| 00:31:51 | wacky_ | hey, tell me guys, is there more interest in the rockbox now that the remaining job is mostly software devel ? |
| 00:36:06 | LinusN | wacky_: i don't understand the question |
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| 00:38:53 | wacky_ | is there more people interested or participating into the project now that only software work is required ? |
| 00:39:15 | thegeek | development has accelerated since the basics were implemented |
| 00:39:18 | thegeek | if that is what you are asking;) |
| 00:39:28 | amiconn | Hmpf. |
| 00:39:29 | LinusN | wacky_: i think there is more interest now that we have come to a point where you can actually *use* rockbox |
| 00:39:43 | * | amiconn broke the iriver sim :( |
| 00:39:55 | LinusN | amiconn: congrats |
| 00:43:16 | wacky_ | yeah :) cool :) what's developing the fastest ? |
| 00:45:03 | wacky_ | what's being worked on the most ? |
| 00:47:28 | LinusN | multicodec architecture atm |
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| 00:48:26 | wacky_ | nice :) |
| 00:48:35 | wacky_ | ok see you later |
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| 01:19:37 | amiconn | LinusN: I just had an idea. Couldn't we assign software poweroff to a long press of MENU on the player? |
| 01:20:02 | LinusN | amiconn: interesting idea |
| 01:20:29 | amiconn | It's not yet assigned, and MENU closely matches OFF on the recorder... |
| 01:20:34 | LinusN | wonderfully confusing :-) |
| 01:20:47 | LinusN | i like it |
| 01:21:15 | amiconn | Hmm, maybe it's a bit confusing... |
| 01:21:38 | amiconn | I think I should incorporate that USB power patch for units which benefit from it |
| 01:21:49 | amiconn | (fm/v2, Ondios) |
| 01:21:59 | LinusN | good idea |
| 01:22:21 | amiconn | Now that we have early usb there should be no showstopper anymore |
| 01:22:33 | amiconn | My sis is waiting for it ;-) |
| 01:22:38 | LinusN | go ahead |
| 01:23:06 | amiconn | She uses her Ondio at the office, and almost drains one full set of rechargeables per day |
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| 01:23:53 | * | amiconn just tries to avoid tackling the graphics api ;) |
| 01:24:15 | amiconn | Nah, seriously, I just want to clean up some bits & pieces |
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| 01:26:48 | * | LinusN is working on onplay for wps |
| 01:27:00 | amiconn | Oooh, nice :) |
| 01:27:05 | amiconn | Someone asked today |
| 01:27:17 | LinusN | don't they do that every day? :-) |
| 01:27:22 | amiconn | (or rather yesterday) |
| 01:27:54 | LinusN | i'll use button_play|button_repeat on recorder |
| 01:28:01 | LinusN | s/recorder/archos/ |
| 01:28:13 | amiconn | Problem: Ondio... |
| 01:28:24 | LinusN | i knew it... |
| 01:28:42 | amiconn | Play==Right on Ondio, and Right|repeat is ffwd |
| 01:28:50 | LinusN | suggestion? |
| 01:36:31 | linuxstb | Is anyone looking at the broken H100 sim? I get a different error to the automatic build: |
| 01:36:33 | linuxstb | apps/settings.c:770: undefined reference to `lcd_remote_set_flip' |
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| 01:36:53 | linuxstb | (this is the X11 sim) |
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| 01:41:03 | amiconn_ | Grmpf, providers :-/ |
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| 01:41:21 | LinusN | linuxstb: i'm on windows atm (shrug) |
| 01:42:31 | amiconn | LinusN: On ondio, all buttons with&without repeat are taken with the current layout |
| 01:42:37 | amiconn | Up/down (+repeat) = volume |
| 01:42:43 | amiconn | Left/Right = skip |
| 01:42:48 | amiconn | Left/Right + repeat = rew/ffwd |
| 01:42:52 | amiconn | Mode = browser |
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| 01:42:59 | amiconn | Mode + repeat = menu |
| 01:43:07 | amiconn | OnOff = pause |
| 01:43:18 | Maxime` | and 2 buttons combined? :x |
| 01:43:25 | amiconn | OnOff + repeat = stop (but not too long) |
| 01:43:45 | amiconn | Theres even a hard-to-get combo, Mode+Down = keylock |
| 01:44:05 | LinusN | amiconn: so onplay on ondio might not work... |
| 01:44:12 | amiconn | You need to press this so that no button repeats before |
| 01:44:18 | linuxstb | LinusN: Don't worry, it's my mistake - I forgot to update the uisimulator directory (I don't use the sims very often). |
| 01:45:10 | amiconn | LinusN: Could the functionality be added to the main menu dynamically? |
| 01:45:54 | amiconn | Btw, the keylock combo isn't that hard to get, as the buttons are adjacent |
| 01:46:05 | amiconn | So you just need a large enough thumb... |
| 01:46:37 | amiconn | The other 2-button combo reachable this way would be Mode+Left |
| 01:51:00 | LinusN | amiconn: dynamic main menu might be the best solution |
| 01:54:49 | amiconn | LinusN: Hmm, can the fm/v2 recorder be powered down while USB is connected? |
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| 01:55:53 | amiconn | I mean hardware wise |
| 01:58:07 | Moos | good night guys |
| 01:58:15 | amiconn | nite Moos |
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| 02:02:13 | * | ]RowaN[ has trouble finding a BDF font editor |
| 02:02:30 | amiconn | ]RowaN[: pfaedit or fontforge |
| 02:02:38 | amiconn | (as it is called now) |
| 02:03:37 | ]RowaN[ | god itslike swimming through treacle trying to find a binary |
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| 02:09:05 | amiconn | ]RowaN[: http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/faq.html#windows |
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| 02:13:21 | amiconn | mrf!!! |
| 02:14:20 | amiconn | LinusN ?? |
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| 02:28:33 | LinusN | amiconn: i *think* the fm/v2 can be powered down when usb is connected |
| 02:28:46 | amiconn | Don't you have one? |
| 02:28:52 | LinusN | at home |
| 02:28:57 | amiconn | Ah, yes |
| 02:31:48 | amiconn | Anyone else you know of who I could ask? |
| 02:32:33 | LinusN | don't remember |
| 02:40:53 | ]RowaN[ | would it be possible for the iriver screen to fade on, on powerup? or does the bootloader only kick in after everything is turned on |
| 02:41:31 | ]RowaN[ | hmm install cygwin environment.. that sounds like a never ending nightmare |
| 02:41:49 | ]RowaN[ | back in my day people made stand-alone applications |
| 02:42:47 | LinusN | ]RowaN[: i don't want to add unnecessary features to the boot loader |
| 02:42:55 | LinusN | to keep it safe |
| 02:43:01 | ]RowaN[ | fair enough |
| 02:43:28 | amiconn | LinusN: Does the bootloader switch on the backlight, or is it on by hardware default? |
| 02:44:09 | LinusN | default, methinks |
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| 03:08:41 | yyz | hmm, i thought daily builds were playing mp3s, albeit without much optimisation? |
| 03:09:22 | LinusN | yyz: ...and? |
| 03:09:39 | yyz | I04: IllInstry @ some mem addr |
| 03:09:44 | yyz | IllInstr* |
| 03:10:55 | yyz | and the accompanying lock-up |
| 03:12:07 | LinusN | the 0622 build is broken, try the latest bleeding edge |
| 03:12:27 | yyz | ah |
| 03:12:31 | yyz | just my luck |
| 03:12:35 | yyz | thankyou :) |
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| 03:29:17 | amiconn | LinusN: Now I have USB power only mode working, even with visual feedback :-) |
| 03:29:41 | amiconn | There will be a tiny USB plug displayed in place of the power plug symbol |
| 03:30:08 | amiconn | In case of units which can have both, the USB plug is overridden by the power plug |
| 03:30:50 | amiconn | (Tested on rec v1, although rec v1 has no real advantage from plugged USB) |
| 03:31:21 | LinusN | coolness! |
| 03:31:34 | LinusN | major context menu commit coming up |
| 03:31:54 | LinusN | still not working 100%, but it's a step forward |
| 03:31:58 | amiconn | Hope that doesn't conflict with my changes :-/ |
| 03:32:30 | LinusN | hope so |
| 03:32:33 | LinusN | i'll go to bed now |
| 03:32:42 | amiconn | usb.[ch], icons.[ch], powermgmt.c and some config-*.h |
| 03:32:57 | LinusN | amiconn: you're safe |
| 03:33:03 | amiconn | okies |
| 03:33:11 | amiconn | nite LinusN |
| 03:33:15 | LinusN | gotta sleep, hope i didn't break too many builds |
| 03:33:25 | LinusN | cu tomorrow |
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| 03:53:05 | yyz | anyway to comment a wps file? cant find it in custom_wps_format.txt |
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| 04:01:22 | amiconn | yyz: "A line beginning with # is a comment" from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 04:03:12 | yyz | thanking you |
| 04:03:20 | yyz | i should try harder, but meh, its 3am |
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| 04:28:39 | dapureplaya | hi. Just wondering, the last couple builds, i've noticed slower track changing while a song is playing (takes like a couple seconds before it plays the track i select. Is it my player or is it just a small build bug? I'm just not too sure because my player has been acting up a little bit recently. |
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| 05:09:17 | AEnertia | Hey All |
| 05:09:27 | AEnertia | I'm having difficulty building the ui |
| 05:11:44 | AEnertia | I'm getting cannot find convbdf, the source is in the tools dir but it's not building it from my builddir ../tools/configure invocation |
| 05:11:57 | AEnertia | this is a clean checkout |
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| 05:16:50 | AEnertia | CC sound.c |
| 05:16:50 | AEnertia | CONVBDF |
| 05:16:50 | AEnertia | make[1]: /opt/rockbox/rockbox-all/tools/convbdf: Command not found |
| 05:16:50 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK AEnertia |
| 05:16:50 | AEnertia | make[1]: *** [/opt/rockbox/rockbox-all/audiohistory/firmware/sysfont.o] Error 127 |
| 05:16:50 | AEnertia | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 05:16:58 | AEnertia | any tips |
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| 05:17:59 | ashridah | AEnertia: go into the 'tools' directory and run make |
| 05:18:02 | ashridah | then try again |
| 05:18:21 | AEnertia | yeah I get no tagets i tried that already |
| 05:18:39 | AEnertia | err hold on... maybe not... |
| 05:18:40 | AEnertia | cheers |
| 05:19:47 | AEnertia | hrm now other issues |
| 05:19:55 | AEnertia | TLS issues... |
| 05:20:00 | AEnertia | Is rockbox safe on AMD64? |
| 05:20:33 | ashridah | what part of rockbox are you trying to compile? simulator? or cross compiling to target a player? |
| 05:20:45 | AEnertia | Development with Simulator |
| 05:20:53 | AEnertia | I'm writing a plugin |
| 05:21:09 | ashridah | that explains why you weren't having trouble building the cross compiler. :) |
| 05:21:17 | ashridah | that said, i don't think anyone's tried it on amd64 yet |
| 05:21:25 | AEnertia | using gcc 3.4.4 |
| 05:21:39 | AEnertia | I think I might have tried it way back over a year ago |
| 05:21:40 | ashridah | but preglow has poked at amd64 and rockbox development in the past |
| 05:22:06 | AEnertia | I'll try it in a linux32 console and see what happens |
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| 05:23:57 | AEnertia | LD rockboxui |
| 05:23:57 | AEnertia | /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: errno: TLS definition in /lib64/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in /opt/rockbox/rockbox-all/audiohistory/librockbox.a(errno.o) |
| 05:23:57 | AEnertia | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 05:23:57 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 05:23:57 | AEnertia | make[1]: *** [/opt/rockbox/rockbox-all/audiohistory/rockboxui] Error 1 |
| 05:23:58 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 05:23:58 | AEnertia | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 05:24:05 | AEnertia | Guessing it's the Xlibrary trying to link in |
| 05:24:18 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 05:24:18 | * | AEnertia checks to see if he has 32bit X librarys in chroot |
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| 05:26:50 | Byron | Is the battery for the Jukebox FM Recorder 20 compatible with the Archos Jukebox Recorder 20? |
| 05:28:17 | Byron | I have a Recorder 20 which gives me an ata-1 error, tried swapping the battery with the FM Recorder and when that battery is in the unit it dosen't even attempt to boot up... as if the battery was not making contact. |
| 05:31:39 | kenshin | AEnertia: neither preglow nor I have managed a successful build of gcc for m68k in amd64. |
| 05:32:14 | kenshin | AEnertia: i've only gotten it to work in a 32-bit chroot |
| 05:32:29 | AEnertia | Ok that's good enough for me... I have a chroot... |
| 05:32:38 | AEnertia | I'm getting funny issues now tho |
| 05:33:11 | kenshin | and you'll have to build gcc-3.4.4 (3.3.4 builds bad executables and 4.0 doesn't work) |
| 05:33:35 | AEnertia | my chroot has 3.3.5 is that ok? |
| 05:33:59 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 05:34:04 | kenshin | not sure. haven't tried but i'd say probably not. |
| 05:34:17 | kenshin | 3.4.4 definitely work, though |
| 05:34:19 | AEnertia | Ok I have 3.4.4 sources so I'll build that |
| 05:34:34 | AEnertia | Any particular way I should buld it in the chroot (using gentoo) |
| 05:34:36 | AEnertia | ? |
| 05:34:52 | AEnertia | i'm just building xorg at the moment. |
| 05:35:09 | kenshin | make sure you clear out all your previous rockbox objects and build them with 3.4.4 |
| 05:35:21 | AEnertia | it's a clean tree |
| 05:35:47 | kenshin | follow the directions on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 05:38:50 | AEnertia | arg the directions are pretty spaz |
| 05:41:40 | kenshin | but the actually work |
| 05:42:41 | kenshin | all the ../gcc-3.4.4/congifure business keeps the gcc tree clean |
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| 05:47:25 | AEnertia | Do i really need the patch? |
| 05:47:52 | AEnertia | Because i'm thinking an emerge gcc binutils will work |
| 05:48:19 | kenshin | you have to build the sources. you're not building a normal compiler. it's a cross-compiler. |
| 05:48:51 | kenshin | does emerge grab the sources without building them? |
| 05:49:01 | AEnertia | can I set a flag in my global make.conf to tell gcc to build the cross compiler target/ |
| 05:49:02 | AEnertia | ? |
| 05:50:17 | kenshin | i doubt it. when you run configure, it does a crapload of stuff to get the right target settings. |
| 05:50:38 | kenshin | it's really not that hard to grab the source, unpack it, build a couple dirs, and run a few commands. |
| 05:51:52 | AEnertia | Yeah I know but it will screw up my chroot |
| 05:52:51 | kenshin | How? As long as you provide a −−prefix and −−target it won't mess up anything. |
| 05:53:25 | kenshin | if your −−target is "m68k-elf" you build "m68k-elf-gcc" in the directory you specify with −−prefix |
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| 06:01:59 | Byron | Is the battery for the Jukebox FM Recorder 20 compatible with the Archos Jukebox Recorder 20? |
| 06:02:08 | Byron | I have a Recorder 20 which gives me an ata-1 error, tried swapping the battery with the FM Recorder and when that battery is in the unit it dosen't even attempt to boot up... as if the battery was not making contact. |
| 06:04:40 | AEnertia | Byron Look at the wiki there is a whole page on batterys |
| 06:05:03 | Byron | thank you |
| 06:08:23 | kenshin | AEnertia: any luck with your cross-compiles, yet? |
| 06:09:40 | ashridah | kenshin: he's building the simulator, not a build for one of the targets, afaik |
| 06:13:04 | AEnertia | Just reading the gentoo |
| 06:13:09 | AEnertia | wiki entries |
| 06:13:21 | AEnertia | There is a crossdev ebuild which apparently makes everything easy |
| 06:13:48 | AEnertia | Yeah I only really want the simulator and devel environment |
| 06:14:06 | AEnertia | I don't have any hardware here to test on |
| 06:14:26 | AEnertia | My Partner has my Iriver in singapore, and my JBRv2 is DEAD |
| 06:16:53 | ashridah | then you don't need a cross compiler |
| 06:19:25 | AEnertia | Hmm... So my inital suspicious it just being X libs is probably correct |
| 06:20:11 | AEnertia | Anyways it's given me a reason to update my chroot environment |
| 06:25:06 | kenshin | sorry. missed that he only wanted to simulator. |
| 06:26:30 | kenshin | i'm engrossed in trying to figure out Apache's mod_rewrite voodoo |
| 06:26:33 | AEnertia | X didn't build properly in the chroot originally so i'm guessing thats the issue |
| 06:26:56 | Byron | AEnertia, what happened to your Recorder? |
| 06:27:08 | AEnertia | It's really REally Dead has been for a long time. |
| 06:27:37 | AEnertia | I'm pretty sure the battery got cooked from using it with a 500ma car adaptor |
| 06:27:44 | Byron | what's wrong with it, the reason I ask is because I'm getting a panic ata-1 error on my recorder 20 |
| 06:28:03 | AEnertia | Basically undersupplying current to Lion batterys is a bad idea |
| 06:28:20 | AEnertia | They will work fine, but will get stupidly hot and eventually stop holding a charge |
| 06:28:55 | AEnertia | That's what happen to mine, the heat managed to screw the PCB a bit upon an autopsy |
| 06:29:14 | Byron | I tried swapping the battery from an FM Recorder into my recorder 20, and the good battery didn't give my broken recorder enough juice to even boot up, so something is funky, plus, the battery wouldn't come out and I had to take it apart to get it out. |
| 06:29:30 | AEnertia | the v2 needs a charge in the battery even with mains power |
| 06:29:59 | AEnertia | You can try charging it overnight via usb |
| 06:30:12 | Byron | also, the debug screen says that the battery has 3.80v, and never gets any higher |
| 06:30:13 | AEnertia | it might "Just Work"(tm) in the morning if your lucky |
| 06:31:02 | Byron | the first thing I see is a frozen RockBox screen when I plug in. |
| 06:32:19 | Byron | should I see a charging screen instead of this frozen screen? |
| 06:33:24 | Byron | ooohhh, the rockbox screen gave-way after about 2 mins to a debug screen, it says 4.52v and it says batt: %82 |
| 06:35:23 | AEnertia | Have you tried using archos firmware upon boot |
| 06:35:24 | AEnertia | ? |
| 06:35:41 | AEnertia | Hold down f1+on I think |
| 06:36:08 | Byron | it just sticks at about %25 loading |
| 06:36:24 | Byron | what does f3 do? |
| 06:36:58 | AEnertia | Bah read the faq, one of the key held on while turning on reverts to the archos original firmware |
| 06:37:29 | AEnertia | Oh sorry, the archos firmware sits at 25% |
| 06:37:44 | Byron | Yep, it's F1, it gets stuck though |
| 06:38:13 | AEnertia | Yeah I would just let it sit forever until the battery is drained. Then charge it via usb slowly over a couple of days. Then see what happens |
| 06:38:52 | Byron | too bad there is no quick discharge option somewhere |
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| 09:27:41 | Maxime`Mrn | 'hi |
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| 09:28:03 | amiconn | hi B4gder |
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| 10:23:32 | mborus | Hi, with the current bleeding there's a problem with mp2 48 kHz playback buffering. |
| 10:23:38 | mborus | On start it buffers and plays until 1:12. The buffering |
| 10:23:42 | mborus | is startet every 10-15 seconds and often, the sound stops |
| 10:23:47 | mborus | before the HD spins up. |
| 10:23:53 | mborus | This worked better with yesterday's build which played for |
| 10:23:57 | mborus | a full hour without any stuttering. |
| 10:24:01 | mborus | I'm using a two hour 192k mp2 soundfile on a HP140. |
| 10:25:21 | t0mas | that's preglows up/down sampling code |
| 10:25:40 | t0mas | I guess it takes to much cpu to downsample from 48 Khz |
| 10:25:56 | mborus | yes, but why the buffering after 1:12? |
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| 10:26:10 | t0mas | don't know |
| 10:26:12 | t0mas | Slasheri? |
| 10:26:13 | B4gder | sounds like the initial 2MB buffer |
| 10:26:33 | B4gder | but Slasheri's the man to tell |
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| 10:27:14 | Slasheri | Hmm, yep. That sounds like a buffering problem. I can test that later with mp2 file. Now i have to go |
| 10:28:42 | mborus | OK, have to go too. |
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| 10:34:34 | HCl | *yawn* |
| 10:34:50 | HCl | its not often that i have my own nightmares telling me to wake up |
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| 10:39:50 | pitman | ur in the wrong timezone mate... I'm just finishing up work listening to some music thanks to rockbox ;-) |
| 10:40:25 | * | B4gder brought his iriver this morning only to find out that his install fails to play music... |
| 10:41:13 | pitman | todays build (20050623) seems to be a bit buggier than previous builds |
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| 10:42:18 | pitman | my plylist is jumping around a bit... and there is quite a delay between when you press play and the song starts |
| 10:42:26 | t0mas | yes |
| 10:42:32 | t0mas | that delay is new |
| 10:42:35 | pitman | reason? |
| 10:42:39 | t0mas | don't know |
| 10:42:41 | B4gder | it was reported already a few days ago |
| 10:42:50 | t0mas | I think it has something todo with the crossfade code? |
| 10:43:28 | pitman | ic... I have one particular Mp3 that doesnt play quite right... but it plays using other software (ie xmms) |
| 10:43:44 | B4gder | pitman: 44.1Khz ? |
| 10:44:09 | pitman | yeah... I have seen others reporting playback problems... but this doesnt seem to be the same |
| 10:44:31 | pitman | it is just the one MP3 (out of 6000) that I have found that does it so far |
| 10:44:58 | B4gder | I bet Slasheri and the lot would be happy if you could make it available for download/testing |
| 10:45:00 | amiconn | Mrf. The wps context patch took away a number of features from the main menu, but the Ondio can't have wps context. So some features are no longer available :( |
| 10:45:13 | B4gder | :-( |
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| 10:45:44 | amiconn | I'll try to re-add these options for Ondio only |
| 10:45:51 | amiconn | (#ifndef WPS_CONTEXT) |
| 10:46:09 | pitman | this might seem like a stupid question but... how do you make it available for download/testing? |
| 10:47:35 | B4gder | pitman: how big is it? |
| 10:47:51 | pitman | about 4Mb |
| 10:49:54 | t0mas | pitman: do you have some hosting space at your isp? |
| 10:50:18 | pitman | nah... I'm actually just at work (university) |
| 10:50:48 | t0mas | hm... most universities give some webspace? |
| 10:50:50 | pitman | I can email it to someone |
| 10:51:02 | pitman | yeah... australia is a bit backward |
| 10:51:20 | t0mas | hm... B4gder? maybe we should start some dump thing on the rockbox site? |
| 10:51:31 | pitman | we were so excited when our campus upgraded to win95 last week |
| 10:51:47 | t0mas | omg... |
| 10:51:53 | amiconn | This can't be an upgrade... |
| 10:52:21 | pitman | hehe... I suppose we are also in the stage of blissful ignorance ;-) |
| 10:52:46 | t0mas | damn |
| 10:52:49 | pitman | before anyone realised how much of a monster windows can actually become |
| 10:52:59 | t0mas | Bleep Bleep Bleep |
| 10:53:10 | t0mas | root@athlon build # acpi -t |
| 10:53:10 | t0mas | Thermal 1: ok, 56.0 degrees C |
| 10:53:15 | t0mas | :| |
| 10:53:20 | t0mas | who set that to 55.0 |
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| 10:55:29 | amiconn | t0mas: Athlons can take much higher temperatures |
| 10:55:34 | t0mas | I know |
| 10:55:41 | Maxou` | up to 85-100 depending on the cpu |
| 10:55:43 | t0mas | that's why I'm wondering who set it this low... |
| 10:55:47 | Maxou` | mobile athon can take 100 |
| 10:55:48 | Maxou` | lol |
| 10:55:52 | t0mas | it's an XP 3200+ |
| 10:55:59 | ze | 100C? damn thats hot |
| 10:55:59 | ze | heh |
| 10:56:07 | t0mas | afaik 90C is the max |
| 10:56:36 | t0mas | never noticed this low alert... it's normally < 40 |
| 10:56:47 | amiconn | On an athlon I'd set an alarm to 75 or 80 °C |
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| 10:57:06 | t0mas | hm... |
| 10:57:15 | t0mas | I normally set em to 65 |
| 10:57:22 | t0mas | then I know when the fan is breaking :) |
| 10:57:43 | t0mas | shit... there is no way to stop the alert from software :X |
| 10:57:53 | amiconn | BIOS alarm? |
| 10:57:57 | t0mas | yes |
| 10:58:50 | * | t0mas raises his music volume |
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| 11:00:14 | HCl | lmao. |
| 11:00:18 | HCl | lazy. |
| 11:00:20 | HCl | just reboot |
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| 11:01:06 | t0mas | reboot? |
| 11:01:16 | t0mas | there is a reason for it to be at 100% load... |
| 11:01:19 | t0mas | I'm using it :P |
| 11:01:49 | t0mas | load average: 6.53, 5.39, 5.95 |
| 11:01:56 | HCl | to do what? |
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| 11:02:00 | HCl | 10:54:50 up 109 days, 21:47, 14 users, load average: 4.01, 4.01, 4.00 |
| 11:02:16 | HCl | i'm at load 4 by default |
| 11:02:32 | HCl | but since i have 4 cpus, thats fine |
| 11:02:52 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 11:03:02 | * | t0mas forgot his servers birthday last week :( |
| 11:03:04 | t0mas | bobby:~# uptime |
| 11:03:04 | t0mas | 11:02:26 up 307 days, 1:49, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| 11:03:17 | HCl | birthday? >.> |
| 11:03:24 | t0mas | well... 300th day ;) |
| 11:03:39 | t0mas | it's exacly as old as the uptime... |
| 11:03:53 | t0mas | I installed it the day it came in here... and it's been running ever since |
| 11:04:14 | t0mas | still running a 2.4 kernel :) |
| 11:04:15 | t0mas | Linux bobby 2.4.18-1-686 #1 Wed Apr 14 18:20:10 UTC 2004 i686 unknown |
| 11:05:05 | t0mas | but after this compile... I'll have to reboot anyway |
| 11:05:06 | HCl | Linux titania 2.6.8.1 #7 SMP Mon Dec 13 21:22:37 CET 2004 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 11:05:14 | t0mas | so I can change this irritating alert |
| 11:06:04 | * | HCl stretches. |
| 11:06:08 | HCl | hmm, hunger |
| 11:06:11 | * | t0mas looks for something to eat |
| 11:06:12 | t0mas | oh lol |
| 11:06:15 | * | HCl guesses he'll get up |
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| 11:07:35 | markun | morning everyone |
| 11:07:48 | t0mas | morning |
| 11:11:45 | HCl | hey markun |
| 11:11:55 | markun | Feeling better today? |
| 11:12:00 | HCl | yea, just sleepy |
| 11:12:12 | markun | Will you do the AI exam on friday? |
| 11:12:18 | HCl | um. no. |
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| 11:14:32 | preglow | just got a mail from david bryant, and he to more or less recommended that we try to keep the data format as high resolutioned as possible all the way |
| 11:15:06 | t0mas | hi |
| 11:16:40 | t0mas | ah |
| 11:16:43 | t0mas | beeping has stopped |
| 11:16:44 | amiconn | Hmm, this is very non-trivial |
| 11:16:45 | t0mas | :D |
| 11:16:46 | amiconn | :( |
| 11:17:19 | amiconn | B4gder: What do you think? I've got an idea for wps context on Ondio, but I'm not sure whether this will be nice... |
| 11:17:55 | amiconn | ...a long press of the MODE button in wps could call the context menu *instead* of the main menu |
| 11:18:18 | B4gder | personally, I think I would like that |
| 11:18:26 | amiconn | Another (short) press of the MODE button could then switch to main menu |
| 11:18:28 | B4gder | if I had an Ondio |
| 11:19:15 | amiconn | ...instead of leaving the menu again like normal |
| 11:19:25 | amiconn | This is a bit inconsistent though... |
| 11:19:48 | amiconn | Maybe this could/should be even made the default behaviour for context menus? |
| 11:20:33 | amiconn | I mean, switch from context menu to main menu with the menu button, whatever that is |
| 11:20:39 | amiconn | Or just on Ondio? |
| 11:20:57 | B4gder | we could try to make it generic and see how it feels |
| 11:21:19 | preglow | he's also done some spdif recordings of how the iriver firmware does resampling |
| 11:21:23 | B4gder | there's not the same need on non-ondio, but it might be nice |
| 11:21:28 | preglow | and it seems they actually use iir filters for 48->44.1 |
| 11:21:50 | preglow | and sinc interpolation for upsampling |
| 11:22:05 | amiconn | Then I would define WPS_CONTEXT to be BUTTON_MENU|BUTTON_REPEAT on Ondio, and undefine WPS_MENU instead |
| 11:22:27 | amiconn | preglow: iir filters?? |
| 11:22:43 | B4gder | pitman-problem.mp3">http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/pitman-problem.mp3 |
| 11:22:56 | B4gder | that's the file pitman gets playback problems with |
| 11:24:25 | pitman | B4gder: have you tried it on your iriver? |
| 11:24:31 | B4gder | no |
| 11:24:49 | B4gder | I can't do it now |
| 11:25:15 | pitman | about a week ago when it had the 20050616 build the problem was different from what I get now |
| 11:25:51 | pitman | last week... the song played ok, but the timer moved at about 2 times the speed |
| 11:26:06 | pitman | so the song finished and went onto the next track before it should have |
| 11:26:10 | B4gder | IIR = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_impulse_response |
| 11:26:27 | pitman | but now... I cant even reconise the song it plays so poorly |
| 11:26:33 | Chamois | what software shall i use to encode a cd in mp3 gapless ? |
| 11:26:40 | B4gder | Chamois: lame |
| 11:26:50 | B4gder | lame −−nogap |
| 11:26:54 | preglow | amiconn: just a kind of moderatly quick filter |
| 11:27:10 | Chamois | B4gder : thx |
| 11:27:25 | preglow | akin to analogue filters in how they function |
| 11:30:10 | preglow | david said he'd be interested in helping us out with this when he's done with implementing wavpack recording |
| 11:30:30 | preglow | encoding, that is |
| 11:31:18 | preglow | so thus far the iriver firmware certainly seems to be doing a better job than us in resampling |
| 11:31:23 | preglow | which isn't really surprising... |
| 11:37:06 | amiconn | B4gder: It's not too hard implementing this behaviour, thanks to the callback feature in the menu functions |
| 11:38:56 | Slasheri | pitman: if possible, please email the file to me at miipekk@ihme.org |
| 11:39:28 | amiconn | Slasheri: B4gder made it available for download, pitman-problem.mp3">http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/pitman-problem.mp3 |
| 11:39:46 | Slasheri | ah, good :) |
| 11:39:53 | pitman | :-) |
| 11:40:59 | pitman | hey guys... I know this idea has been shot-down with regard to the Archos... but do you think that the iriver could do multitrack recording? |
| 11:41:43 | pitman | ideally... if the recorder could take the left and right channels and record them as two separate mono tracks... |
| 11:42:07 | Slasheri | hmm, that is of course possible |
| 11:42:17 | pitman | then to play them back it could mix and play them |
| 11:42:27 | pitman | that would be wicked for song-writing |
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| 11:43:19 | amiconn | B4gder: Any objections if I assign MENU_EXIT2 a special meaning |
| 11:43:20 | amiconn | ? |
| 11:43:46 | amiconn | I sorted the MENU_EXIT* buttons to be *2 the menu button on all platforms |
| 11:44:02 | amiconn | ...and check for that in onplay() |
| 11:47:44 | amiconn | Hmm, I should better rename it... |
| 11:48:20 | preglow | pitman: i believe you'd end up with a lot of crosstalk |
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| 11:49:46 | pitman | crosstalk? ur talking to a newbie sorry :-s |
| 11:51:28 | pitman | I had the impression that the iriver was software-based encoding-decoding? |
| 11:52:33 | preglow | yes |
| 11:52:42 | preglow | the contents of one channel might leak over into the other |
| 11:52:46 | preglow | that's crosstalk |
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| 11:53:00 | pitman | oh... I see |
| 11:53:07 | preglow | so if you plan on using each of the channels in the stereo plug to carry seperate audio... |
| 11:53:14 | preglow | but i don't know if its so bad it's a problem |
| 11:53:38 | pitman | yeah... I do it a bit with cassett tapes and stuff like that... it works ok.. ish |
| 11:53:39 | amiconn | The iriver playback crosstalk is quite high |
| 11:54:19 | ze | depends on if you want true binaural or not |
| 11:54:29 | pitman | how about just recording one track at a time... but having other tracks mixing and playing back at the same time as you are recording? |
| 11:54:53 | pitman | is that even possible?... I know I am probably getting a bit ahead of myself here |
| 11:55:03 | preglow | very possible |
| 11:55:15 | pitman | even that would be cool |
| 11:55:19 | preglow | depends on how much you wanna record |
| 11:55:27 | pitman | like a little 4-track |
| 11:55:27 | preglow | too many tracks at once, and we might have problems reading them off the disk |
| 11:55:40 | preglow | should be possible |
| 11:55:52 | pitman | yeah... 4 tracks is great for recording ideas and stuff |
| 11:56:06 | preglow | i can imagine |
| 11:56:21 | pitman | then... I know that for CPU things you get this latency-problem |
| 11:56:46 | pitman | must admit that I don't know what it is really... but CoolEdit and these types of programs have to deal with it |
| 11:57:49 | pitman | can software be written to give low latency? |
| 11:58:11 | preglow | 'course |
| 11:58:15 | preglow | up to a limit |
| 11:58:38 | pitman | mind you... you would only want 4 mono-tracks |
| 11:59:07 | pitman | so would that make the effort required to mix it equivalent to mixing only 2 stereo tracks? |
| 11:59:50 | amiconn | B4gder: It seems to work... and it only adds 48 bytes of code... :-) |
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| 12:14:06 | ashridah | aah, if only we could cram an n64 emulator into the iriver :) |
| 12:14:40 | t0mas | as in the game console n64 thing? |
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| 12:16:12 | Maxime`Mrn | erm.. my power supply dislike warm (: |
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| 12:17:46 | GodEater | yesterday was clearly "international hack on rockbox day" - I've not seen a CVS log that long in ages :) |
| 12:18:09 | B4gder | it was a fine day indeed |
| 12:20:32 | amiconn | B4gder: I have my options back :) |
| 12:21:52 | B4gder | hopefully even nicer than before |
| 12:22:14 | amiconn | It will need some time to get used to it... |
| 12:22:31 | B4gder | I can understand that |
| 12:22:44 | * | B4gder hasn't tried it yet |
| 12:23:42 | amiconn | I wonder whether we should drop the F3 quick screen for recorders and use F3 as an alternative context button instead |
| 12:24:25 | B4gder | sounds like a good idea... |
| 12:25:09 | * | HCl obviously isn't awake yet.. |
| 12:25:21 | amiconn | Imho we should drop the ON+PLAY combo as well. It's inconsistent between browser and wps (only the browser has it) |
| 12:25:26 | HCl | first i think its saturday, then i think its friday, then someone tells me its actually thursday |
| 12:26:53 | Aramil | it's not monday? |
| 12:26:58 | | Nick Aramil is now known as tvelocity (~tony@ipa34.1.tellas.gr) |
| 12:27:19 | amiconn | B4gder: Dropping ON+PLAY makes onplay.[ch] named a bit odd though... |
| 12:27:25 | B4gder | hehe |
| 12:27:34 | amiconn | HCl: Nah, isn't it Sunday? ;) |
| 12:27:47 | B4gder | its funday! |
| 12:27:55 | amiconn | definitely. |
| 12:27:58 | tvelocity | i think B4gder is right |
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| 12:39:57 | Coldtoast | hey. is it possible to remove all the icons from the WPS? |
| 12:40:26 | B4gder | you mean the status line? |
| 12:40:33 | Coldtoast | oh yeah |
| 12:40:38 | Coldtoast | THAT'S in teh options! |
| 12:40:38 | B4gder | yes it is |
| 12:40:46 | B4gder | :-) |
| 12:40:46 | Coldtoast | doh! heh. thx |
| 12:43:28 | Bgr | uf... these WPS guys have never heard about "hide attachment in normal topic view" |
| 12:47:01 | HCl | hehe.. |
| 12:47:20 | preglow | gotta go |
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| 12:50:29 | HCl | 1.02M/s |
| 12:50:32 | HCl | i love 100mbit :) |
| 12:50:44 | ]RowaN[ | is crossfading going to become configurable? i.e. song 1 fadeout duration, song2 fadein duration, overlap length |
| 12:50:57 | HCl | it takes more time to get my xbox into divx playing mode than to download the 300mb file off the internet |
| 12:51:01 | HCl | :) |
| 12:51:10 | t0mas | ]RowaN[: if someone writes it... yes |
| 12:51:19 | t0mas | HCl: 5 minutes for booting into divx mode?? |
| 12:51:22 | ]RowaN[ | thank god for someone |
| 12:51:34 | B4gder | but only to a certain degree, the fading is using a static sized buffer |
| 12:51:39 | HCl | t0mas: nope, but 1mb/s is more than enough to stream off the internet |
| 12:51:40 | HCl | :) |
| 12:51:46 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 12:51:55 | ]RowaN[ | t0mas i'd help if i could but im not clever ='[ |
| 12:52:23 | t0mas | maybe Slasheri can do it... he wrote the crossfading thing |
| 12:52:48 | B4gder | I think we should focus on getting things to work first |
| 12:52:52 | B4gder | _then_ getting fancy |
| 12:53:02 | B4gder | but that's me |
| 12:53:23 | * | ]RowaN[ stills looks for a standalone bdm editor |
| 12:53:35 | B4gder | bdf |
| 12:53:40 | ]RowaN[ | hehe thats the one |
| 12:54:07 | HCl | 12:45:28 (1012.28 KB/s) - `[BleachSociety]_Bleach_-_37_[E2FB869A].avi' saved [183961600/183961600] |
| 12:54:10 | HCl | :) |
| 12:54:15 | * | HCl petpets 100mbit |
| 12:54:27 | HCl | afk now |
| 12:54:40 | B4gder | 1000KB is not very much for 100mbit |
| 12:54:49 | HCl | well. it depends on the serer |
| 12:54:50 | HCl | server |
| 12:54:51 | HCl | really |
| 12:54:58 | Maxime`Mrn | http://maxime67.free.fr/uhu4.jpg < |
| 12:54:58 | B4gder | I often get 800kb/s on my 8mbit |
| 12:54:59 | HCl | most servers can't pull even 1mb/s |
| 12:55:01 | * | Maxime`Mrn lvoes ADSL2+ |
| 12:55:07 | HCl | its the server :P |
| 12:55:14 | HCl | microsofts servers are fast enough for example |
| 12:55:18 | HCl | i get 8mb/s from those |
| 12:55:27 | HCl | but most internet servers don't manage more than 1mb |
| 12:55:36 | Maxime`Mrn | french 20Mb ADSL 2+ is great :p |
| 12:56:37 | Coldtoast | what's your max speed so far Maxime`Mrn? |
| 12:56:48 | Maxime`Mrn | Coldtoast: the speed on the screenshot |
| 12:56:53 | Maxime`Mrn | 1.9Mo/s |
| 12:57:00 | tvelocity | oh no not the bandwidth thing again... |
| 12:57:23 | Coldtoast | not bad. that's about 16mbit |
| 12:57:49 | Coldtoast | be cool to get the full 24mbit :) |
| 12:57:59 | amiconn | What the *** has this: |
| 12:58:00 | amiconn | #if defined(SIMULATOR) && defined(HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS) |
| 12:58:09 | Coldtoast | I migh tmove right next to the exchange here just to get 24mbit |
| 12:58:15 | amiconn | to do in lcd-recorder.c and lcd-h100.c ??? |
| 12:58:25 | B4gder | amiconn: seems off |
| 12:58:31 | B4gder | way off |
| 12:58:39 | amiconn | This will never be true... |
| 12:58:51 | amiconn | I'll sort these files anyway |
| 12:58:55 | Febs | Good morning, folks. |
| 12:59:13 | amiconn | ...grouping functions |
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| 13:00:14 | Febs | I ran a battery test yesterday, tracking the percent remaining at 15 minute intervals. Would the results of that be useful to anyone? |
| 13:00:35 | Coldtoast | cool! |
| 13:01:10 | Coldtoast | did you get ~16hrs Febs? |
| 13:01:41 | Coldtoast | it'd be better to track the voltage at 15min intervals wouldn't it? |
| 13:01:42 | Febs | No, running mostly −−alt-preset standard MP3, I got about 10 hours and 45 minutes. |
| 13:02:36 | Coldtoast | what player do you have? |
| 13:02:41 | Febs | H120 |
| 13:04:15 | Febs | Coldtoast: as to tracking voltage, that was my question, actually. What does the WPS battery % relate to right now, if anything? Is that a useful measurement? |
| 13:04:42 | B4gder | Febs: it uses a battery voltage => percentage table |
| 13:05:15 | Febs | OK, so the percentage measure can be translated to a battery voltage. |
| 13:05:39 | B4gder | yes, but without precision |
| 13:05:50 | B4gder | the data is still useful |
| 13:06:36 | markun | Febs, I think the actual values from the adc would be more useful |
| 13:07:22 | Febs | The results were similar to the charts that rasher has posted in the WPS. The battery decline was more or less linear over the first 9+ hours, and then dropped quickly in the last hour. |
| 13:07:31 | Febs | WPS=wiki |
| 13:07:42 | markun | Febs: Which build did you use? |
| 13:07:54 | Febs | Markun: 0622-1449 |
| 13:09:13 | Febs | Is there a way for me as an end-user to measure the values from the adc? Is this what the battery voltage display under the debug menu shows? |
| 13:09:15 | Coldtoast | I might test 0623-1041 |
| 13:09:26 | markun | ok, because I changed the voltage -> percentage table and was hoping it would be more linear now |
| 13:09:27 | Coldtoast | bleedign edge build |
| 13:10:03 | markun | But the comit was before your build, so I guess it doesn't work so well. |
| 13:10:38 | Coldtoast | 10hrs 45mins seems low |
| 13:11:04 | B4gder | a fair comparison would play the exact same songs on the iriver fw |
| 13:11:09 | Coldtoast | be cool if eventually it gets close to 16hrs |
| 13:11:24 | B4gder | I don't think the standard fw manages that |
| 13:11:36 | Coldtoast | it does actually |
| 13:11:43 | Coldtoast | mine does, nayway |
| 13:11:46 | markun | Febs: I based thevalues on the measurements by rasher: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/voltages.png |
| 13:11:46 | Coldtoast | anyway |
| 13:12:04 | Coldtoast | I got just under 16hrs when I did a test |
| 13:12:09 | B4gder | Coldtoast: no matter what songs/codecs you play? |
| 13:12:16 | B4gder | seems unlikely |
| 13:12:27 | Coldtoast | it was all mp3 with a complete mix of bitrates and vbr/cbr |
| 13:12:54 | Coldtoast | on a h140 |
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| 13:13:00 | Febs | B4dger, I agree, that's why I said I wanted to do a more controlled test. I had the player on shuffle, which may have affected battery life, and also had EQ on. |
| 13:13:15 | B4gder | EQ? |
| 13:13:36 | Febs | Bass = 6 Treble = 4 |
| 13:13:39 | ashridah | fucking hell. if i ever meet a game developer who thinks that a lens flare was a good idea when you're supposed to be looking around in the first person, i'm going to hit them and then carefully explain to them why our eyes don't cause lens flares |
| 13:13:46 | B4gder | ah |
| 13:14:04 | Coldtoast | ashridah: maybe you have bionic eyes in the game? heh |
| 13:14:13 | Coldtoast | cameras instead of eyeballs |
| 13:14:26 | Febs | It was sort of an ad hoc test. Not designed to be very scientific. |
| 13:15:15 | ashridah | Coldtoast: well, that's remotely possible in serious sam, since the dude has an embedded computer in his head, but not in zelda |
| 13:15:24 | Coldtoast | haha |
| 13:16:10 | B4gder | Febs: I don't think shuffle nor the EQ affects battery usage in a significant way |
| 13:16:25 | Febs | Good to know. |
| 13:17:10 | Coldtoast | where can I get the 1bit Rockbox logo from? |
| 13:17:32 | Coldtoast | the one that flashes quickly onscreen when you boot the h140 |
| 13:18:22 | B4gder | lemme see... |
| 13:19:30 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/rockbox160bw.bmp |
| 13:19:39 | Coldtoast | cheers B4gder |
| 13:20:21 | B4gder | I put a PNG version there too |
| 13:20:38 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 13:23:04 | Coldtoast | whythe png? |
| 13:23:14 | B4gder | easier to browse with firefox |
| 13:23:38 | Coldtoast | oh yeah |
| 13:25:25 | Coldtoast | it'd be cool if you could use masks in .wps so you could have windows in your images for text |
| 13:25:35 | Coldtoast | anyway |
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| 13:27:59 | Coldtoast | or being able to set up textboxes, actually. anyway. think I'll go eat |
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| 13:40:01 | webguest48 | hello |
| 13:40:06 | webguest48 | hello everyone.. |
| 13:40:08 | B4gder | 'ello |
| 13:40:19 | webguest48 | I'm korean iriver user... |
| 13:40:40 | B4gder | welcome |
| 13:40:42 | webguest48 | I want play rockbox.. |
| 13:40:46 | webguest48 | B4gder.. |
| 13:41:15 | webguest48 | My ihp120 firmware patched.. but don't play rockbox.. |
| 13:41:40 | B4gder | and you installed a daily build? |
| 13:41:51 | B4gder | the patch/flash only makes the bootloader |
| 13:41:53 | webguest48 | what's daily build? |
| 13:42:20 | webguest48 | I'm did easy way patched.. |
| 13:42:36 | B4gder | then you have the bootloader |
| 13:42:50 | webguest48 | bootloader.bin? |
| 13:42:57 | webguest48 | that file copy root folder? |
| 13:43:07 | B4gder | no |
| 13:43:11 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:43:25 | webguest48 | what's doing?.. please help me.. |
| 13:44:08 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/QuickStart#Installing_Rockbox |
| 13:44:32 | B4gder | the hex file is the bootloader |
| 13:44:43 | B4gder | you then need rockbox |
| 13:45:23 | webguest48 | It's too hard.. |
| 13:45:30 | webguest48 | don't understand.. |
| 13:45:39 | B4gder | then I don't know what to say |
| 13:46:03 | webguest48 | must patch bootloader? |
| 13:46:12 | B4gder | what did you do so far? |
| 13:46:31 | webguest48 | I'm doing now.. |
| 13:47:03 | t0mas | webguest48: step 1: install bootloader (so the .hex file stuff) |
| 13:47:14 | t0mas | webguest48: step 2: extract this zip file to the iriver drive: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h100/rockbox-h100-20050623.zip |
| 13:47:27 | t0mas | webguest48: step 3: reboot the iriver, it should boot into rockbox |
| 13:48:01 | Febs | Battery test results here: Febs/Bat_test_050622-1449.htm">http://66.116.254.167/Febs/Bat_test_050622-1449.htm |
| 13:48:25 | webguest48 | I don't understand bootloader? |
| 13:48:49 | webguest48 | bootloader install what's doing? |
| 13:48:57 | B4gder | webguest48: did you upgade to the patched hex file? do you see some rockbox text when you start your iriver? |
| 13:49:09 | webguest48 | yes |
| 13:49:15 | B4gder | then you have the bootloader installed |
| 13:49:15 | t0mas | then do step 2 and 3 |
| 13:49:28 | webguest48 | fwpatcher ihp_120.hex patched.. |
| 13:49:32 | t0mas | ok |
| 13:49:35 | webguest48 | copy ihp_120.hex root folder |
| 13:49:44 | t0mas | step 2: extract this zip file to the iriver drive: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h100/rockbox-h100-20050623.zip |
| 13:49:48 | t0mas | step 3: reboot the iriver, it should boot into rockbox |
| 13:49:50 | t0mas | that |
| 13:50:22 | webguest48 | i doning dowaloading 20050623.zip |
| 13:50:25 | Bgr | hm... webguest48: did you make "firmware upgrade" with iriver firmware of the patched ihp_120.hex ? |
| 13:50:39 | webguest48 | unzip 20050623.zip.. |
| 13:51:00 | webguest48 | fwpatcher pathced ihp_120.hex |
| 13:51:12 | webguest48 | thed patched file copy iriver root folder.. |
| 13:51:23 | Bgr | then did firmware upgrade ? |
| 13:51:25 | webguest48 | then iriver menu firmware upgrade.. |
| 13:51:29 | Bgr | ok |
| 13:51:32 | webguest48 | reboot |
| 13:51:42 | webguest48 | hold record button.. |
| 13:51:52 | Bgr | ok, then just unzip this file |
| 13:51:57 | Bgr | don't hold record button |
| 13:52:06 | webguest48 | unzip? |
| 13:52:10 | Bgr | this will start iriver fw |
| 13:52:11 | webguest48 | what's file unzip? |
| 13:52:28 | Bgr | do you have program which can open .zip files ? |
| 13:52:37 | webguest48 | alzip |
| 13:52:48 | webguest48 | hex file unzip? |
| 13:53:15 | Bgr | no no no |
| 13:53:15 | Bgr | open this .zip file |
| 13:53:23 | webguest48 | yes.. |
| 13:53:26 | Bgr | and "extract" it to the root folder of your iriver |
| 13:53:32 | webguest48 | yes.. |
| 13:53:48 | Bgr | after this |
| 13:53:55 | Bgr | check the "safely remove hardware" |
| 13:54:01 | webguest48 | yes |
| 13:54:17 | webguest48 | then? |
| 13:54:24 | Bgr | and turn off and then turn on the iriver |
| 13:54:34 | webguest48 | yes.. |
| 13:54:46 | webguest48 | firmward upgrade? |
| 13:54:59 | B4gder | hehe |
| 13:55:02 | B4gder | no |
| 13:55:06 | B4gder | you already did that |
| 13:55:13 | Bgr | and if you've done everything as you should be, your iriver will be "rockboxed" |
| 13:55:13 | Bgr | no |
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| 13:56:17 | webguest48 | only unzip connected iriver |
| 13:56:30 | webguest48 | root folder unzip .zip |
| 13:56:50 | Bgr | ok... listen to me carefully |
| 13:56:52 | webguest48 | root folder has rockbox |
| 13:56:56 | webguest48 | yes... |
| 13:57:18 | Bgr | so, if your iriver is letter X: in my computer/explorer/etc |
| 13:57:27 | Bgr | do you have X:\.rockbox directory ? |
| 13:57:35 | webguest48 | yes |
| 13:57:39 | Bgr | and also, do you have X:\rockbox.iriver |
| 13:57:55 | webguest48 | yes |
| 13:58:00 | Bgr | ok |
| 13:58:17 | Bgr | did you make "firmware upgrade" with PATCHED ihp_120.hex ? |
| 13:58:39 | webguest48 | yes |
| 13:58:45 | webguest48 | bgr i'm success |
| 13:58:46 | Bgr | ok |
| 13:58:46 | Bgr | so |
| 13:58:52 | Bgr | good |
| 13:59:06 | Bgr | congrats |
| 13:59:16 | webguest48 | rock box.. |
| 13:59:24 | webguest48 | don't show korean? |
| 13:59:35 | B4gder | nope |
| 13:59:42 | Bgr | no, it doesn't yet |
| 13:59:46 | B4gder | but we will appreciate your patch! |
| 13:59:52 | Bgr | :))))) |
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| 14:00:07 | * | B4gder never misses a chance to point that out ;-) |
| 14:00:07 | webguest48 | rockbox game file where's it? |
| 14:00:07 | Bgr | webguest48: rockbox needs unicode support to show korean |
| 14:00:31 | webguest48 | when unicode support? |
| 14:00:35 | Bgr | but someone (iirc markun) is working on it |
| 14:00:38 | t0mas | fuck... |
| 14:00:43 | webguest48 | um.. |
| 14:00:48 | Bgr | there are no deadlines in open source ... |
| 14:00:50 | t0mas | tomas@athlon dev # uptime |
| 14:00:51 | t0mas | 14:00:53 up 1 day, 5:56, 3 users, load average: 13.91, 3.77, 2.02 |
| 14:00:52 | Bgr | at least in rockbox :) |
| 14:00:55 | webguest48 | Bgr.. |
| 14:01:04 | t0mas | 13.91 :| |
| 14:01:07 | Bgr | t0mas: happy birthday ;) |
| 14:01:10 | webguest48 | emule game file what's game file? |
| 14:01:20 | t0mas | I didn't even know load can be 13.91 |
| 14:01:23 | Bgr | what do you mean ? |
| 14:01:30 | t0mas | see the load average... |
| 14:01:32 | webguest48 | whaers rockbox game file? |
| 14:01:38 | * | Bgr doesn't know wtf these values mean ... |
| 14:01:52 | Bgr | B4gder: tell him, pls |
| 14:01:52 | t0mas | well... < 1 is normal |
| 14:01:53 | webguest48 | where's rockbox game rom file? |
| 14:02:02 | Bgr | how to start |
| 14:02:11 | Bgr | you have to get .gb roms on your own |
| 14:02:14 | B4gder | I give up |
| 14:02:14 | webguest48 | i'm not have rockbox game file.. |
| 14:02:15 | ashridah | t0mas: clearly you've never administrated a busy sendmail server :) |
| 14:02:31 | webguest48 | where is Rockbox game file.. |
| 14:02:41 | Bgr | webguest48 which game ? |
| 14:02:51 | Bgr | rockbox has not ONE game |
| 14:02:51 | webguest48 | many.. |
| 14:02:56 | webguest48 | I want many gmae. |
| 14:03:00 | Bgr | do you mean GameBoy emulation ? |
| 14:03:02 | t0mas | ashridah: this is a workstation |
| 14:03:14 | t0mas | and for normal workstation... doing nothing... 13.91 is a bit high |
| 14:03:22 | webguest48 | yes |
| 14:03:46 | Bgr | t0mas, ashridah: btw what does load average value of 13.1 (for example) mean |
| 14:04:01 | t0mas | Bgr: to much... I don't know how it's calculated |
| 14:04:24 | t0mas | but I remember our webserver at the office beiing dossed... got to load 6.something |
| 14:04:30 | t0mas | and that was to much for it :) |
| 14:04:35 | webguest48 | hold rockbox |
| 14:04:50 | Bgr | does this have anything with bogoMIPS... |
| 14:04:56 | webguest48 | then Resume? Play = yes Any other = no |
| 14:05:02 | B4gder | Bgr: no |
| 14:05:06 | Bgr | webguest48: you must find .gb rom files on your own |
| 14:05:20 | B4gder | load is the number of processes in the run queue |
| 14:05:23 | Bgr | B4gder: i mean more bogoMIPS, more max load average values |
| 14:05:25 | webguest48 | gb rom click game start? |
| 14:05:31 | t0mas | tes |
| 14:05:33 | t0mas | *yes |
| 14:05:40 | webguest48 | I under stand.. |
| 14:05:53 | webguest48 | thank everyone.. |
| 14:05:57 | Bgr | np |
| 14:06:03 | Lynx_ | t0mas: the first value for load average uptime gives is only for the last minute |
| 14:06:12 | Bgr | but next time ... try to read documentation first ........ |
| 14:06:19 | webguest48 | must Korean don't understand this doing.... |
| 14:06:33 | webguest48 | documentaion only english... |
| 14:06:57 | B4gder | webguest48: feel free to write a translation! |
| 14:07:04 | webguest48 | most my friend have iriver-h340 and H10 |
| 14:07:04 | Bgr | we're talking in engl here too ... |
| 14:07:23 | Coldtoast | hey webguest48 |
| 14:07:28 | Bgr | H10 is probably a no-no for rockbox ... in the near future at least |
| 14:07:42 | webguest48 | yes.. |
| 14:07:42 | Coldtoast | is the ipod VERY populr in Korea? |
| 14:07:42 | Bgr | but H3x0 is near |
| 14:07:43 | webguest48 | no.. |
| 14:07:59 | Coldtoast | but the iriver is? |
| 14:08:03 | B4gder | I would assume korean brands are popular in korea |
| 14:08:06 | Coldtoast | wee,, not THE iriver. ANY iriver |
| 14:08:16 | t0mas | Lynx_: I know |
| 14:08:24 | t0mas | it was going mad on hald (hotplugging) |
| 14:08:33 | webguest48 | most korean use iriver and cowon |
| 14:08:40 | Coldtoast | cool |
| 14:08:50 | Bgr | iriver & iaudio ... |
| 14:08:52 | Bgr | :) |
| 14:08:53 | webguest48 | ipod have not radio.. |
| 14:09:07 | webguest48 | no ogg |
| 14:09:10 | Bgr | they have ... as an accessory |
| 14:09:37 | webguest48 | any many korean listen to music handphone.. |
| 14:09:42 | Coldtoast | I'd liek to borrow an ipod for a day |
| 14:09:53 | webguest48 | most korean handphone have mp3 |
| 14:10:00 | webguest48 | and have mp4 k3g |
| 14:10:43 | webguest48 | I want to send korean mp3 player this room person.. |
| 14:11:12 | Coldtoast | wonder what Kim Jong Il listens to |
| 14:11:14 | Bgr | Coldtoast probably has one already |
| 14:11:33 | webguest48 | bgr |
| 14:11:37 | Coldtoast | why would you think that? |
| 14:11:39 | webguest48 | i found gb rom.. |
| 14:11:58 | webguest48 | many people don't know korean mp3 player.. |
| 14:12:01 | * | t0mas has used an ipod once... |
| 14:12:04 | Coldtoast | I want to have a play with the interface. never touched an ipod |
| 14:12:12 | t0mas | it's usefull... the weel thing is nice |
| 14:12:13 | Coldtoast | did you inhale t0mas? |
| 14:12:22 | t0mas | hm? |
| 14:12:33 | Coldtoast | heh. sorry. joke |
| 14:12:43 | webguest48 | make folder gbrom folder iriver .. |
| 14:12:45 | Sucka | the wheel is quite good, but i always end up going past songs i want to listen to on my friends' ipods |
| 14:12:47 | webguest48 | then click gbrom? |
| 14:12:52 | webguest48 | play game? |
| 14:12:54 | Coldtoast | remember Clinton saying "I once smoked marijuanah but I didn't inhale"? |
| 14:12:55 | Sucka | although its better than the iriver for going through large lists |
| 14:13:14 | webguest48 | I like Booker - T |
| 14:13:26 | webguest48 | I watching WWE |
| 14:13:39 | webguest48 | I'm 15 years old.. |
| 14:13:57 | t0mas | Coldtoast: I'm from the netherlands ;-) |
| 14:14:04 | webguest48 | t0mas.. |
| 14:14:12 | webguest48 | play gbrom... |
| 14:14:14 | Bgr | hahaha t0mas :))) |
| 14:14:16 | t0mas | Sucka: well... rockbox scrolling is faster... and I found it more usefull |
| 14:14:20 | Bgr | the country of freedom :P |
| 14:14:23 | t0mas | LOL |
| 14:14:28 | webguest48 | make gbrom folder then click gbrom file? |
| 14:14:41 | t0mas | half of the world has some weird picture from the netherlands... |
| 14:14:45 | t0mas | webguest48: yes |
| 14:14:56 | Bgr | t0mas at least it's legal |
| 14:15:20 | webguest48 | i want to show korean.. |
| 14:15:21 | t0mas | it is... that's why it's no big deal here |
| 14:15:22 | webguest48 | um.. |
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| 14:15:31 | t0mas | and it's only legal if you're > 18 |
| 14:16:20 | Bgr | i bet that netherlands are given as an example in many countries from people, smoking maryj... |
| 14:16:28 | t0mas | yes |
| 14:16:35 | Bgr | t0mas: the same as alcochole |
| 14:16:53 | webguest48 | Bgr.. |
| 14:16:56 | Bgr | *alochol |
| 14:16:59 | Bgr | webguest48? what ? |
| 14:17:02 | t0mas | but if you compare this to germany... we have less young people on weed... |
| 14:17:15 | Bgr | i can't help you more |
| 14:17:15 | webguest48 | rockbox play mame? |
| 14:17:18 | t0mas | because it's legal here... it's sold in normal shops... wich are controlled by the gouvernment |
| 14:17:28 | Bgr | t0mas: i'm sure |
| 14:17:34 | Lynx_ | t0mas: they just get their's in the netherlands ;) |
| 14:17:39 | t0mas | and because of that it's not sold by illegal street people |
| 14:18:02 | Bgr | and you're sure what does it contain |
| 14:18:11 | t0mas | and we have gay marriage... wich the US still don't have... weirdos |
| 14:18:13 | webguest48 | gameboy = family ? |
| 14:18:31 | Bgr | webguest48? |
| 14:18:38 | t0mas | Bgr: yes, and for harddrugs (illegal) there are still checkpoints... to test pills... |
| 14:18:49 | webguest48 | gameboy rom = mame rom? |
| 14:18:50 | Bgr | gameboy is a game console |
| 14:19:08 | Bgr | i don't get what do you mean |
| 14:19:34 | Coldtoast | what's the default rockbox font? |
| 14:19:34 | Sucka | t0mas : yes, holding down play for page scroll was revealed to me on the forums and its the best by far ;) |
| 14:19:47 | webguest48 | rockbox play rom.. only gameboy rom? |
| 14:19:53 | Bgr | yes |
| 14:20:06 | Bgr | and the plug-in games |
| 14:20:20 | Bgr | gameboy & gameboy color (obviously without colors) |
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| 14:23:27 | Bgr | t0mas do you mean that you can test haddrugs ? |
| 14:24:03 | t0mas | yes |
| 14:24:25 | Bgr | haha |
| 14:24:29 | t0mas | if you buy them somewhere (illegal) then you can bring them to a legal coffeshop or mobile testing center (police) and they'll check them for you... |
| 14:24:33 | t0mas | without arresting you |
| 14:24:35 | ]RowaN[ | crossfade on trackskip worked for me today.. i was sat on the tube riding to work and suddenly i was like "whoa dude" (thats how i speak in my head) coz it actually crossfaded |
| 14:25:00 | t0mas | this started because some people sold bad pills... wich killed party people |
| 14:25:12 | Bgr | aha |
| 14:25:21 | Bgr | this is a good idea |
| 14:26:02 | t0mas | yes... and it makes arresting the people selling harddrugs easier... |
| 14:26:13 | webguest48 | i'm playing now 1943.. |
| 14:26:21 | Bgr | hm |
| 14:26:25 | t0mas | because the police keeps track of everything they check, and where they do it |
| 14:26:25 | webguest48 | thanks everyone.... |
| 14:26:47 | Bgr | hm maybe that's the main reason |
| 14:27:11 | t0mas | might be ;) |
| 14:27:32 | Sucka | still a good idea though |
| 14:27:56 | elinenbe | amiconn: how's work going on the grfx lib? |
| 14:27:57 | Bgr | yes |
| 14:28:20 | t0mas | yes... and the police has more time to deal with real criminals (selling harddrugs).. because they don't need to run after school kids smoking 1 weed every few weeks |
| 14:28:56 | t0mas | and... most kids don't think smoking weed is cool... because everybody can just buy it... so not much people at my school use it |
| 14:29:54 | Bgr | yes, the fact that it's illegal makes more people to want try it |
| 14:30:59 | t0mas | but there are some problems still... with kids < 16 drinking alcohol... |
| 14:31:34 | * | t0mas was on a party last week... saw some girls aged about 14 running around and drinking way to much... |
| 14:31:59 | t0mas | it was in the papers too... a few weeks ago... lots of young people drink to much in weekends |
| 14:32:57 | Bgr | t0mas: this doesn't surprise me |
| 14:33:09 | webguest48 | don't listen game sound.. |
| 14:33:14 | Bgr | i've seen 12old (or less) drinking ... |
| 14:33:19 | Bgr | webguest48: no, there's no sound |
| 14:33:23 | Sucka | bah you should see the UK then :p |
| 14:33:35 | t0mas | well... that's seen as a serious problem here |
| 14:33:47 | webguest48 | rockbox game is no sound? |
| 14:33:58 | t0mas | but I guess some people will come up with a right solution (< 2% alcohol is ok for 12 y/o or something like that) |
| 14:34:38 | webguest48 | Bgr.. |
| 14:34:49 | webguest48 | Rockbox game is no sound? |
| 14:35:06 | t0mas | webguest48: what game? there are more games... |
| 14:35:07 | t0mas | not just 1 |
| 14:35:18 | webguest48 | boomberman |
| 14:35:24 | t0mas | gameboy rom? |
| 14:35:35 | B4gder | no sound in rockboy |
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| 14:35:40 | B4gder | for now at least |
| 14:36:01 | t0mas | hmz... there is a version with sound isn't it? |
| 14:36:03 | webguest48 | yes.. |
| 14:36:08 | t0mas | (i've heard sloppy mario sounds) |
| 14:36:14 | B4gder | t0mas: there was sound before we got the music playback |
| 14:37:28 | webguest48 | umm |
| 14:38:06 | webguest48 | now play supermario 1.. |
| 14:38:15 | webguest48 | but don't listen game sound.. |
| 14:38:41 | t0mas | no webguest48, it's disabled |
| 14:39:07 | webguest48 | play button only a? |
| 14:39:10 | webguest48 | not b? |
| 14:39:33 | webguest48 | supermario game has b button turbo speed.. |
| 14:39:47 | t0mas | play = A |
| 14:39:48 | t0mas | stop = B |
| 14:39:53 | t0mas | A-B = menu |
| 14:39:57 | t0mas | Rec = start |
| 14:40:19 | webguest48 | thank you. |
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| 14:40:49 | webguest48 | see you againg.. |
| 14:40:52 | webguest48 | good bye. |
| 14:41:06 | B4gder | bye webguest48 |
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| 14:41:14 | Sucka | ;D |
| 14:41:26 | Coldtoast | hey. what font is the rockbox default? any idea? |
| 14:41:32 | Sucka | rockbox_default? |
| 14:41:37 | Coldtoast | yep |
| 14:41:43 | t0mas | that's the default fond ;) |
| 14:41:46 | Coldtoast | what font is it |
| 14:41:48 | t0mas | *font |
| 14:41:57 | Coldtoast | so it's one custom made? |
| 14:42:01 | t0mas | I guess |
| 14:42:06 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 14:42:44 | B4gder | clR6x8.bdf |
| 14:42:47 | Coldtoast | want to design an image WPS but mock it up in PS so if I had the rockbox font as a ttf or bitmap font, that'd be cool |
| 14:43:21 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 14:43:26 | * | t0mas is redesigning his wps too |
| 14:44:03 | as | hmm |
| 14:44:08 | | Nick as is now known as thegeek (na@ti521110a080-1839.bb.online.no) |
| 14:44:15 | thegeek | problem is that it is hard to place text |
| 14:44:16 | ]RowaN[ | i took some cool gfx from mario world for my wps.. clouds, hills, and palm trees =] |
| 14:44:21 | ]RowaN[ | mario land, even |
| 14:44:26 | thegeek | we should have a pixel placement for text too |
| 14:44:49 | Coldtoast | I agree |
| 14:44:55 | thegeek | -a |
| 14:45:22 | t0mas | yes I agree |
| 14:45:31 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 14:45:33 | ]RowaN[ | pixel placement would still have problems when you change to font of a different height tho? |
| 14:45:36 | t0mas | even better... I have it :P |
| 14:45:58 | ]RowaN[ | pick a font and stick to it i say =p |
| 14:46:00 | t0mas | ]RowaN[: the place where it is placed is defined with the x and y coordinate of the left upper corner of the string |
| 14:46:34 | t0mas | it's not hard to add extra text... I've just added some lcd_puts(); calls to my wps code |
| 14:46:39 | t0mas | to place text where I want it to be |
| 14:46:49 | ]RowaN[ | yeah it would be good just to indent/center text and not have it scroll over gfx at the sides (walls) of the wps |
| 14:47:02 | Coldtoast | make text display xor |
| 14:47:04 | ]RowaN[ | start coord, end coord |
| 14:47:19 | Coldtoast | that way, you can still read text if it goes over gfx |
| 14:47:25 | t0mas | Coldtoast: it is |
| 14:47:29 | t0mas | but scrolling lines are a problem |
| 14:47:30 | Coldtoast | oh! |
| 14:47:36 | Coldtoast | ok. hadn't tested that |
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| 14:47:56 | t0mas | Linus was thinking about something with margins to scrolling text |
| 14:48:02 | t0mas | to make some sort of scrolling "box" |
| 14:48:42 | Coldtoast | yeah. Even for non-scrolling text you'd need it tho |
| 14:48:54 | Coldtoast | if you decide to not use %s you still want those margins |
| 14:49:49 | B4gder | yeps |
| 14:50:08 | GodEater | I wish there was a way to use CVS easily over the web |
| 14:50:18 | GodEater | it's a PITA being stuck behind a firewall all day |
| 14:50:32 | B4gder | tunnel tunnel tunnel! ;-) |
| 14:50:33 | t0mas | hm? |
| 14:50:43 | t0mas | there is a web cvs thing for rockbox |
| 14:51:25 | GodEater | oh really ? I must have missed that. soemwhere on www.rockbox.org I assume ? |
| 14:51:43 | t0mas | www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/ |
| 14:52:20 | GodEater | ah yes - but checking out with that thing will be slow as - I'd have to get each file one by one! |
| 14:52:41 | t0mas | then get the source zip files? |
| 14:53:02 | t0mas | oh wait |
| 14:53:07 | t0mas | that's only daily |
| 14:54:09 | t0mas | B4gder? can that be added to the bleeding edge thing? |
| 14:54:11 | t0mas | a source zip? |
| 14:54:24 | B4gder | sure could |
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| 14:54:55 | GodEater | that would be awesome |
| 14:55:04 | t0mas | is the website in cvs? |
| 14:55:13 | B4gder | t0mas: most of it |
| 14:56:26 | t0mas | and it's php? or cgi? |
| 14:56:45 | B4gder | static html and cgi |
| 14:57:06 | Bgr | KISS :) |
| 14:57:16 | B4gder | and of course quite a lot of scripts |
| 14:57:22 | B4gder | for the builds etc |
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| 15:01:04 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-source/rockbox-bleeding.tar.gz |
| 15:01:20 | B4gder | 2.5MB |
| 15:01:37 | GodEater | TYVM |
| 15:01:47 | Bgr | btw, why don't you use .bz2 ? |
| 15:01:56 | B4gder | no reason really |
| 15:02:11 | Bgr | smaller files :) |
| 15:02:31 | GodEater | not gonna save much on a 2.5MB file really |
| 15:03:46 | B4gder | this source package will be update like the other bleeding edge builds now |
| 15:03:59 | GodEater | cool - I'll keep the link handy then |
| 15:04:07 | kenshin | Bgr: i wrote a shell script to download the daily build and as part of that converts to .bz2 file |
| 15:07:04 | Chamois | B4gder : error in the source link on the build page |
| 15:07:12 | Chamois | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-source/rockbox-bleeeing.tar.gz |
| 15:07:37 | Chamois | bleeding.tar.gz |
| 15:07:42 | GodEater | too many "e"s |
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| 15:10:50 | B4gder | thanks, fixed |
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| 15:19:39 | crazylee | Hi.. |
| 15:19:49 | crazylee | Holla If ya hear me? |
| 15:19:58 | * | B4gder reads |
| 15:20:04 | kenshin | Bgr: if you want it (will need some mods for bleeding edge builds) http://www.wiard.net/rock.daily |
| 15:20:24 | crazylee | kenshin |
| 15:20:25 | Bgr | hm |
| 15:20:32 | crazylee | hi |
| 15:20:35 | crazylee | everyone.. |
| 15:20:53 | * | kenshin has to go to work (grrrr) |
| 15:20:58 | crazylee | Rockbox Emule not support Radio for Iriver? |
| 15:21:16 | ashridah | crazylee: not yet |
| 15:21:23 | ashridah | the iriver port is no-where near done |
| 15:21:26 | B4gder | emule? |
| 15:21:36 | crazylee | Rockbox.. |
| 15:21:50 | crazylee | My ihp-120 patched Rockbox.. |
| 15:22:00 | crazylee | Rockbox not support Fm Radio? |
| 15:22:15 | Bgr | 10x, kenshin |
| 15:22:17 | hicks | crazylee Rockbox Emule not support Radio for Iriver? |
| 15:22:17 | hicks | ashridah crazylee: not yet |
| 15:22:34 | crazylee | %u3160%u3160 |
| 15:22:42 | crazylee | ah..... |
| 15:22:55 | * | ashridah really should get xchat using unicode someday :) |
| 15:23:23 | crazylee | When Rockbox support radio? |
| 15:24:09 | bobTHC | radio is already supported by rockbox |
| 15:24:18 | hicks | When its done I guess :P Best to just use normal firmware when you want to listen to the radio till someone adds support for the iRiver |
| 15:24:30 | hicks | bobTHC, thats only on Archos though isn't it? |
| 15:24:32 | bobTHC | but the iriver port of radio is not complete... |
| 15:25:38 | ashridah | crazylee: feel free to help out :) |
| 15:25:48 | bobTHC | right...but dont confuse rockbox and the iriver port of rockbox |
| 15:27:36 | ashridah | i imagine rockbox itself will be a work in progress to some extent on all platforms ;) |
| 15:27:59 | Coldtoast | heh. I was actually thinking of selling my h140 til a week ago |
| 15:28:05 | bobTHC | me too ashridah... :) |
| 15:28:24 | Coldtoast | the iriver port is usable enough now tho that Iwon't |
| 15:28:48 | hicks | I wouldn't say I'd have sold mine, but I can say that since finding out about rockbox I probably won't need to buy a newer player for some time. |
| 15:28:51 | bobTHC | usable dont mean stable ;) |
| 15:28:55 | ashridah | there wouldn't be much value in my selling mine. finding another player that supports ogg would cost me more than it's worth now |
| 15:29:23 | hicks | ashridah, thats the reason I choose the iriver over most players to begin with. ogg support :) |
| 15:29:28 | Coldtoast | bobTHC: I'venot had a crash for about 3 days. As I said, fo rme, it;s usable enough to keep the player |
| 15:29:33 | hicks | although I've been thinking of getting a tiny flash player for when I go running. |
| 15:30:08 | hicks | I've not had rockbox crash on me yet. Only problem is certain mp3 podcasts play like the chipmunks, which I'm assuming is because they're not record at 44KHz? |
| 15:30:11 | Coldtoast | I was going to sell it and just use my PDA |
| 15:30:30 | bobTHC | i'm totally agree with u but stable is another step above |
| 15:30:57 | hicks | CoCoLUS, What pda do you have? I've got a tungsten C which is great but fails misserably for audio, not even stereo :( |
| 15:31:07 | Coldtoast | me? |
| 15:31:16 | hicks | Coldtoast, even :) |
| 15:31:17 | Coldtoast | Dell Axim x50v |
| 15:31:31 | hicks | damn tab completion and my inability to use it :P |
| 15:31:56 | Coldtoast | the x50v is a pretty amazing device |
| 15:32:12 | hicks | I've never heard of it, I'll go google in a bit :) |
| 15:32:25 | Coldtoast | the res of teh screen is ridiculous. something like 192DPI |
| 15:33:00 | Coldtoast | http://pocketpcfaq.com/reviews/efocus2005/index.htm |
| 15:33:03 | Coldtoast | check those vids out |
| 15:33:07 | Coldtoast | see it in action |
| 15:33:19 | bobTHC | Dell Axim x50v is good but id u have a electric socket near it ;) |
| 15:33:45 | B4gder | 600Mhz xscale |
| 15:33:48 | B4gder | gosh |
| 15:34:03 | Coldtoast | well, with the most intensive thing srunning; Wifi, bluetooth, etc, you'll still get over 2hrs |
| 15:34:07 | Coldtoast | of constant use |
| 15:34:08 | hicks | I got a tungsten after my old psion 3a bit the dust. |
| 15:34:31 | hicks | Although I only use it for text editing and playing adventure games/reading ebooks. |
| 15:34:39 | hicks | Does its job in that sense great :) |
| 15:34:54 | Coldtoast | you can buy extended batteries for them too. But yeah. you're not going to get days of usage. heh |
| 15:34:56 | amiconn | msg logbot seen rasher |
| 15:34:59 | amiconn | Oops |
| 15:35:23 | amiconn | Hmm.... |
| 15:35:37 | Bgr | opa |
| 15:35:39 | Bgr | :) |
| 15:35:49 | Coldtoast | I use mine a bit for watching movies at work |
| 15:36:06 | B4gder | I believe the heavy cgi::irc usage ruins logbot's seen capabilities |
| 15:36:55 | amiconn | It worked... |
| 15:37:03 | amiconn | I just forgot the leading slash |
| 15:37:04 | thegeek | when I use my extended battery my x50v lasts more than 2 hours with full wifi/video/cpu |
| 15:37:34 | thegeek | take notice of both "my"'s ;) |
| 15:37:39 | Coldtoast | did you consider the HP hx4700 at all whenyou were buying thegeek? |
| 15:38:16 | thegeek | yes |
| 15:38:17 | amiconn | 2 hours battery runtime for a mobile device is ... nothing, imho |
| 15:38:23 | thegeek | indeed |
| 15:38:25 | thegeek | but it's not true |
| 15:38:28 | thegeek | I get way more |
| 15:38:31 | thegeek | I can use it all day long |
| 15:38:33 | thegeek | and then some |
| 15:38:34 | thegeek | with no trouble |
| 15:38:50 | thegeek | It's usually just at 50% when I get home |
| 15:38:52 | Coldtoast | why'd you pick the Axim? |
| 15:38:56 | thegeek | price |
| 15:39:01 | Coldtoast | ah yeah |
| 15:39:04 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:39:11 | thegeek | it's more than expensive enough |
| 15:39:15 | Coldtoast | heh |
| 15:39:21 | thegeek | dont want to pay any HP premium |
| 15:39:27 | Coldtoast | the Axim's a far nicer looking device too I reckon |
| 15:39:30 | thegeek | the screen on the hp is not that much better |
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| 15:39:34 | thegeek | and it looks like shit |
| 15:39:34 | thegeek | mhm |
| 15:39:39 | Coldtoast | the x50v feels REALLY nice in teh hand |
| 15:39:44 | thegeek | indeed:) |
| 15:42:53 | amiconn | B4gder: I think I should put the struct scrollinfo in lcd.h. Although it is used in the driver only, there are already 3 drivers defining it. Any objections? |
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| 15:43:13 | B4gder | nopes, go ahead |
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| 15:49:38 | amiconn | Ahahaha, funny construct: |
| 15:49:43 | amiconn | #if defined(HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS) && defined(SIMULATOR) |
| 15:49:43 | amiconn | #endif |
| 15:56:51 | Bgr | already seen ? |
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| 16:19:20 | RockboxerHappy | Hello folks |
| 16:19:52 | RockboxerHappy | I'm very happy about the progress this days |
| 16:20:29 | RockboxerHappy | anyone is her? |
| 16:21:19 | webguest31 | Howdy. Know anything about the Gmini port? |
| 16:21:48 | bobTHC | 64 is not enough for u ? |
| 16:22:03 | RockboxerHappy | amiconn is her? |
| 16:22:04 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPort |
| 16:22:05 | bobTHC | i'm kidding what's up |
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| 16:22:48 | bobTHC | it seems to be here, indeed RockboxerHappy |
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| 16:23:02 | RockboxerHappy | amiconn: have you few seconds for me please? :-) |
| 16:23:11 | t0mas | wtf... |
| 16:23:23 | t0mas | I just burned my feet when I climbed out of the water... |
| 16:23:34 | bobTHC | huuuuu |
| 16:23:52 | amiconn | mrrrrf! |
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| 16:24:21 | RockboxerHappy | amiconn: i read the logs daily and i read fex days ago, you working in grayscale and graphical stuff |
| 16:24:28 | RockboxerHappy | *few |
| 16:24:36 | RockboxerHappy | it's right? |
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| 16:26:46 | RockboxerHappy | amiconn: ? |
| 16:27:20 | RockboxerHappy | are you here please |
| 16:27:35 | amiconn | Yeah, I'm working on gfx, more or less |
| 16:27:54 | bobTHC | round up ure ideas and ask the question... |
| 16:29:08 | RockboxerHappy | i'm very happy like my nickname said but the graphical aspect alone that don't progress a lot |
| 16:29:47 | bobTHC | WPS with bitmap is not enough for u ? |
| 16:29:54 | RockboxerHappy | and i read that amiconn alone work on it :( i read a lots about your eficient amiconn ;) |
| 16:30:14 | RockboxerHappy | bob: yes of course WPS it's so good now |
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| 16:30:26 | RockboxerHappy | thanks to t0mas, Linus..... |
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| 16:30:51 | amiconn | I'm not that efficient atm :( I don't get why I can't #include "file.h" within lcd.h, but it works from other headers |
| 16:30:59 | Godeater | WPS with BMP support seems like a heck of a lot of progress - what more do you want ?!?! |
| 16:31:03 | amiconn | That is, it works for the targets, but not for sims |
| 16:31:09 | RockboxerHappy | a ok |
| 16:31:47 | RockboxerHappy | i'm very happy about your all works it's very good from you |
| 16:32:17 | RockboxerHappy | unfortunatly i can't work in garphicals API :( |
| 16:32:23 | RockboxerHappy | i can't help |
| 16:32:43 | RockboxerHappy | but i'm hope a lot about you amiconn :) |
| 16:33:05 | amiconn | The gfx api itself won't change anything visible |
| 16:33:22 | amiconn | Switching to 4-grey of course will change a bit |
| 16:33:30 | RockboxerHappy | :P |
| 16:33:50 | amiconn | But the api will be done first |
| 16:34:05 | amiconn | ...as a preparation for more different gfx formats |
| 16:34:11 | amiconn | Thinking H3x0 here |
| 16:34:18 | RockboxerHappy | about the remote control, it's depend of them no? |
| 16:34:30 | RockboxerHappy | wooh H3XX like Bagder |
| 16:34:36 | RockboxerHappy | :) |
| 16:35:55 | RockboxerHappy | the remote control it's alone don't working, but for all it's fine i'm use daily rockbox |
| 16:36:09 | RockboxerHappy | with my H140 |
| 16:37:25 | bobTHC | if u have ideas, feel free to propose them here, but plz don't say "what don't progress a lot" or thing like "and for this why it's not working...", in one word try to be constructive, thx |
| 16:37:51 | RockboxerHappy | scuse me my english it's very limited |
| 16:37:59 | RockboxerHappy | i'm french |
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| 16:38:10 | bobTHC | i'm too |
| 16:38:14 | RockboxerHappy | :) |
| 16:38:20 | amiconn | I'm not native english either |
| 16:38:30 | amiconn | ...german |
| 16:38:37 | RockboxerHappy | i don't want said that Rockbox don't work |
| 16:38:43 | RockboxerHappy | i love it |
| 16:39:00 | RockboxerHappy | and i love the the GPL projects |
| 16:39:23 | amiconn | Okay, seems I didn't break the driver with my rearrangement :) Now, next one... |
| 16:39:36 | RockboxerHappy | :) |
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| 16:40:28 | RockboxerHappy | bob: je ne veux pas critiquer ce projet, au contraire. |
| 16:40:44 | RockboxerHappy | scuse for this french words |
| 16:41:42 | HCl | god |
| 16:41:47 | RockboxerHappy | i don't want poluated this chanel |
| 16:41:47 | HCl | its so hot x.x |
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| 16:42:19 | amiconn | Nah, it's not that hot, at least not here |
| 16:42:24 | HCl | its like what |
| 16:42:25 | amiconn | 30 °C |
| 16:42:27 | HCl | 30 degrees |
| 16:42:33 | HCl | and not getting better tomorrow |
| 16:42:38 | amiconn | same here |
| 16:42:39 | * | HCl goes to make a cool footbath. |
| 16:42:58 | amiconn | If it's above 36 °C *then* I'd call it hot |
| 16:43:10 | RockboxerHappy | amiconn: good luck for your works and we hope in you for the graphicals things ;) |
| 16:43:11 | amiconn | It's warm |
| 16:43:21 | RockboxerHappy | 35°C here in paris |
| 16:43:29 | RockboxerHappy | by all |
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| 16:43:36 | amiconn | RockboxerHappy: The gfx api should basically allow for faster and more flexible graphics |
| 16:43:43 | amiconn | oops |
| 16:43:44 | bobTHC | :( |
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| 16:44:53 | Bger | amiconn: the "hot" feeling depends much on air's humidity |
| 16:45:05 | amiconn | yeah, right |
| 16:45:25 | Bger | so you can't just say: it's 36 °C, so it's hot |
| 16:47:21 | Bger | btw, amiconn, any docs for learning m68k asm ? |
| 16:47:54 | Bger | or you'll point me to coldfire user manual |
| 16:48:33 | amiconn | If you've already coded in asm, the coldfire manuals should be sufficient |
| 16:48:53 | Bger | i have bare idea of x86 |
| 16:48:59 | amiconn | That's what I used, but then I already did some other asm coding |
| 16:49:00 | Bger | asm |
| 16:49:26 | amiconn | Z80, a tiny bit of x86 (never really understood it), and of course SH1 |
| 16:49:48 | amiconn | x86 is fugly |
| 16:49:55 | Bger | i wouldn't call it just "some other asm coding" ... |
| 16:51:05 | amiconn | Of course I did have have a quick look at m68k asm before, because I (still) have an Amiga, but did not yet code m68k before rockbox |
| 16:51:38 | Bger | ;) |
| 16:51:44 | Bger | i've never touched an Amiga |
| 16:52:09 | Bger | and more ... i've never seen such "animal" |
| 16:54:18 | HCl | mrf |
| 16:54:20 | HCl | bit better |
| 16:55:45 | Bger | HCl: how's headache ? |
| 16:58:04 | Godeater | Does a .wps file have to be saved in cr/lf format, or will just lf delimited work ? |
| 16:59:02 | amiconn | Both variants should work |
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| 17:00:03 | Godeater | thanks |
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| 17:03:29 | HCl | Bger: gone |
| 17:03:55 | HCl | tired and overheated though |
| 17:03:58 | HCl | need to catch up on sleep |
| 17:04:02 | HCl | cold shower helped tons |
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| 17:04:22 | HCl | i guess its mostly the heat getting to me |
| 17:04:36 | HCl | just a sec ago when i was working with markun i felt like falling asleep, but cold shower helped tons |
| 17:05:00 | Bger | that's better anyway |
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| 17:07:30 | * | HCl goes to nap while he still can. |
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| 17:12:39 | markun | HCl: Not falling asleep because of me I hope.. ;-) |
| 17:13:55 | t0mas | Sucka`away? |
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| 17:32:04 | HCl | markun: nope |
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| 17:37:48 | t0mas | HCl? weet jij hoe je zo'n ID2P ding toevoegt? dus voor een nieuwe menu optie? |
| 17:38:13 | t0mas | oh.. woops... translation: "Do you know how to add an ID2P string, for a new menu item?" |
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| 17:49:45 | t0mas | found it :) |
| 17:49:56 | t0mas | added an option to the context menu to shuffle the playlist |
| 17:50:14 | t0mas | don't know where I read that idea... but I think it's usefull to be able to shuffle the list :) |
| 17:52:04 | amiconn | What should that be good for? |
| 17:52:18 | amiconn | Isn't rockbox shuffle good enough for you? ;) |
| 17:53:04 | Lynx_ | thats a nice feature, so you can edit the list after shuffling |
| 17:53:28 | amiconn | Hmm, seems I still don't understand |
| 17:53:36 | amiconn | You can always edit the list |
| 17:53:57 | amiconn | ...and you can shuffle the list and sort it again |
| 17:54:03 | t0mas | amiconn: I don't want the always shuffeling rockbox does... |
| 17:54:07 | amiconn | ...without a new option |
| 17:54:09 | t0mas | I want the winamp like option... |
| 17:54:16 | amiconn | Hum? |
| 17:54:16 | t0mas | press a button and it shuffles the list for me |
| 17:54:26 | t0mas | that's the thing I added... |
| 17:54:52 | amiconn | You can switch shuffle on & off in the menu. When playback is stopped, this shuffles & unshuffles the current list |
| 17:55:01 | t0mas | and now I'm playing with it, I have something else: does anybody like a "clear playlist" option in the context menu? |
| 17:55:33 | Lynx_ | if you have some albums and what the list shuffled to mix the artists, you can shuffle the list and move single songs, for example if several songs of one artist come one after another by chance |
| 17:56:02 | amiconn | Lynx_: Yes, you can do that, with current cvs, without any additional option |
| 17:56:20 | t0mas | amiconn: but then I "enable" shuffle... and I have it on all day |
| 17:56:41 | t0mas | I don't like that... I want to press a "Shuffle now" button |
| 17:57:13 | t0mas | but any comments on the "Clear playlist" option in the contextmenu? |
| 17:57:36 | spiralout | hi...i have still problems with moveing files on rockbock ...i found out that it only works in the same directory level ...but how can i move a folder or something one folder level higher?? |
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| 17:59:35 | spiralout | rockbock means rockbox :-D |
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| 18:00:47 | amiconn | t0mas: Why? The old list is cleared automatically if you play something new |
| 18:01:21 | t0mas | amiconn: hm... so play a new song... and then start adding others |
| 18:01:24 | Coldtoast | hey. could you make it so you can choose which side the status bar is aligned to? |
| 18:01:26 | t0mas | that's the way to do it? |
| 18:02:19 | amiconn | Yes, but it always adds the whole dir. You can't start a fresh playlist with a single song (unless you have a single track in that dir) |
| 18:02:35 | t0mas | ok, so a clear option might be usefull? |
| 18:03:12 | Coldtoast | man! I suggested EXACTLY THIS yesterday |
| 18:03:17 | spiralout | add only this thing to a new playlist-option would be useful |
| 18:03:19 | Coldtoast | and Linus said he thought it was silly |
| 18:03:37 | amiconn | I think the same... |
| 18:03:41 | Coldtoast | heh |
| 18:03:54 | Coldtoast | good to see somebody else would use it |
| 18:04:11 | amiconn | Hmm. Who wants to listen to a single song only? |
| 18:04:16 | t0mas | I don't |
| 18:04:22 | t0mas | but sometimes I want to add just 1 song |
| 18:04:27 | t0mas | not all songs in a dir... |
| 18:04:28 | Coldtoast | that's not why you'd want it |
| 18:04:40 | t0mas | so I want to clear the playlist... and then start adding single songs |
| 18:04:46 | amiconn | Maybe that's me though, I usually listen to whole albums, or I shuffle a larger subtree of the player |
| 18:04:57 | Coldtoast | you'd use it so you can clear the whole palylist (as the whole dir is added auto when you select a file) and build a playlist from scratch |
| 18:05:06 | Coldtoast | not for single songs |
| 18:05:14 | t0mas | me too... but today I wanted to listen to a few songs from 1 band, a few from another... like that |
| 18:05:15 | spiralout | no but when you want to create a new playlist than do you want to start with only one song and not with the whole album |
| 18:05:22 | Coldtoast | yeah |
| 18:05:33 | t0mas | so a clear option might be usefull... |
| 18:05:34 | Coldtoast | yes |
| 18:05:49 | t0mas | the only problem is.. there is no playlist_clear() function |
| 18:06:15 | t0mas | playlist_init() might clear it :) |
| 18:06:22 | Coldtoast | scenario: I'm listenign to Tool. get 2 sings into an album and decide I don't want to listen to Tool any more but want to listen to a mix of other artists |
| 18:06:51 | spiralout | yeaaaaaaah tool ;) |
| 18:07:09 | t0mas | empty_playlist() |
| 18:07:11 | t0mas | got one :) |
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| 18:10:00 | spiralout | ok than i repeat an other suggestion ...a copy file function or better a "copy all files in the playlist to directory" option would be so nice |
| 18:10:02 | hardeep | t0mas: you can start a playlist with a single song already |
| 18:10:26 | hardeep | t0mas: on+play->playlist->insert when nothing is playing |
| 18:10:37 | amiconn | hi hardeep |
| 18:10:38 | hardeep | so, "stop" is the equivalent of a clear playlist |
| 18:10:42 | hardeep | hey amiconn |
| 18:10:57 | Coldtoast | stop stops what you're listening to as well tho |
| 18:10:57 | amiconn | hardeep: Nice, even I didn't know that |
| 18:11:02 | t0mas | lol |
| 18:11:11 | t0mas | we should get someone to write docs ;) |
| 18:11:36 | amiconn | hardeep: Am I right that the playlist is cleared only when you start adding new tracks? |
| 18:11:56 | hardeep | amiconn: yeah |
| 18:12:04 | hardeep | so that resume still works |
| 18:12:09 | amiconn | Afaiu the playlist is kept after stop, otherwise it wouldn't be possible to save it from stopped state, or resume |
| 18:12:24 | t0mas | ok, so it gets cleared when you add 1 song |
| 18:12:27 | t0mas | in stop mode |
| 18:12:36 | t0mas | (or add more) |
| 18:13:00 | spiralout | right just tested it works quite well |
| 18:13:21 | hardeep | t0mas: in your shuffle change, any reason you're using the same seed as before? |
| 18:13:34 | t0mas | hm... not a good one |
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| 18:14:29 | t0mas | does it matter? |
| 18:14:57 | amiconn | t0mas: Did you test whether you one-time shuffled playlist saves & resumes correctly? |
| 18:15:13 | hardeep | t0mas: well, kinda... you'll need to resort before shuffling otherwise resume won't work |
| 18:15:29 | t0mas | hm... you want to save a shuffeled playlist? |
| 18:15:30 | hardeep | t0mas: and i doubt you want to shuffle with the same seed in that case |
| 18:16:21 | amiconn | t0mas: Of course I want, that's one of the best features in rockbox - that it saves and resumes playlists |
| 18:16:50 | Coldtoast | speakin gof playlists |
| 18:16:52 | amiconn | Sometimes I'm using playlists running several days in total, and I surely don't want to hear the same song twice |
| 18:17:10 | amiconn | ...even if I shutdown and resume several times |
| 18:17:23 | Coldtoast | do you think maybe Save playlist and View Playlist should be moved from Options to th ePlaylist menu? |
| 18:17:34 | t0mas | and how can I make rockbox save a shuffeled playlist? |
| 18:17:48 | amiconn | I don't mean saving it as an explicit playlist, but as dynamic playlist in rockbox |
| 18:18:18 | Coldtoast | cos you're editting the p;aylist in the playlist menu. seems logical to be able to View and Save there as well |
| 18:18:19 | amiconn | This is what the .playlist_control file is about |
| 18:18:30 | amiconn | The playlist stuff is really sophisticated |
| 18:18:34 | t0mas | ok, and how to make it resume? |
| 18:19:03 | amiconn | You need to make sure that the one-time shuffle doesn't confuse the dynamic playlist handling |
| 18:19:14 | amiconn | Ask hardeep, he seems to be a playlist expert |
| 18:19:19 | hardeep | it will if there's no sort in between |
| 18:19:47 | t0mas | hm... I call playlist_shuffle(seed, index); with seed = the original seed... and index = the first index |
| 18:20:34 | t0mas | and it doesn't like resuming that |
| 18:20:47 | Coldtoast | how can I edit the Rockbox font? I have some things I'd like to add to it |
| 18:21:15 | t0mas | hm... |
| 18:21:25 | t0mas | it doesn't resume a normal playlist either... |
| 18:21:44 | hardeep | t0mas: what do you mean normal playlist |
| 18:21:47 | spiralout | right @coldtoast ....maybe it´s only forgotten to implement it to the option>playlist menue |
| 18:22:00 | t0mas | hardeep: not suffeled... |
| 18:22:03 | t0mas | I turn it off |
| 18:22:05 | t0mas | then back on |
| 18:22:16 | t0mas | can't press on/play to make it start playing that list again |
| 18:22:19 | hardeep | t0mas: for the shuffle stuff, do this: playlist_sort(NULL, true);playlist_randomise(NULL, current_tick, true); |
| 18:22:46 | hardeep | t0mas: i don't know the button sequence on the iRiver |
| 18:22:46 | Coldtoast | I created icons for Album, Artist, Track, etc that'll fit in 6x8 and I'm thinking it'd be great to add them to the font so they scroll with %s |
| 18:22:47 | t0mas | ok |
| 18:22:51 | amiconn | t0mas: Does your playlist contain non-seekable formats, like ogg? |
| 18:22:53 | hardeep | on the archos it's pressing "ON" by itself |
| 18:22:58 | t0mas | amiconn: mp3 only |
| 18:23:21 | amiconn | hardeep: On iriver it is PLAY |
| 18:23:40 | amiconn | ...because PLAY is much like ON on the archos |
| 18:23:59 | amiconn | ...and archos PLAY roughly equals iriver SELECT |
| 18:24:15 | hardeep | ah, okay |
| 18:24:28 | * | amiconn can compare |
| 18:25:01 | hardeep | t0mas: so, press PLAY then SELECT to resume |
| 18:25:07 | t0mas | hardeep: so when I change my "static bool shuffle_playlist(void)" to the 2 lines you gave, it will work with resume? |
| 18:25:09 | amiconn | yup |
| 18:25:31 | amiconn | (@ hardeep) |
| 18:25:40 | hardeep | t0mas: yup |
| 18:27:49 | t0mas | k |
| 18:27:49 | t0mas | done |
| 18:27:56 | * | t0mas continues listening :D |
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| 18:55:47 | hardeep | what's the recommended version of gcc for rockbox builds nowadays (archos and iriver both)? 3.3.x or 3.4.x? |
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| 18:56:47 | Maxime`Mrn | 3.4 |
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| 18:57:54 | Sucka | t0mas ? |
| 18:58:42 | amiconn | hardeep: Latest 3.3.x for archos, latest 3.4.x for iriver |
| 18:58:54 | hardeep | amiconn: thanks! |
| 18:59:09 | amiconn | 3.4.x will produce larger binaries for archos, while 3.3.x will choke on dumb for iriver |
| 18:59:26 | amiconn | 4.0.x doesn't work at all |
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| 19:01:09 | hardeep | anything in 4.0 that would be useful to us anyways? |
| 19:01:28 | amiconn | 4.0 should optimise better |
| 19:02:14 | amiconn | iriver builds do compile with some tweaking and a heapload of warnings, but the binaries crash |
| 19:02:46 | amiconn | archos builds don't even compile, due to a construct in system.c that's no longer allowed in 4.0+ |
| 19:02:55 | amiconn | Imho this is a really silly decision |
| 19:03:01 | hardeep | who needs the binaries anyways, just stare at the source code enough and you'll start hearing music |
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| 19:03:33 | amiconn | Gcc 4.0 doesn't accept (weak) aliases to symbols not defined in the same translation unit |
| 19:04:00 | amiconn | ... but archos system.c does define aliases to symbols defined within an asm() block |
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| 19:07:42 | hardeep | hmmm, any particular reason they do this? |
| 19:08:10 | amiconn | ugh! I broke h1x0 builds... but it built fine here !?! :puzzled: |
| 19:08:50 | amiconn | Hrmpf, last minute changes.... |
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| 19:13:21 | HCl | amiconn: is that 4.0 issue for archos fixable? |
| 19:13:37 | amiconn | gcc should be fixed |
| 19:13:58 | HCl | but they're not going to do that are they? |
| 19:14:19 | amiconn | I don't know... someone should report this bug |
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| 19:33:54 | James | Hi, I can't figure out how to send the IDENTIFY command to my hard drive - the instructions http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html refer to it, but do not explain how to send the IDENTIFY command |
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| 19:53:19 | ep0ch | hi |
| 19:57:45 | ep0ch | has anyone here reveresed the polarity of the replacement battery for ihp? i take it i need a soldering iron? or is there a way i can do it without? |
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| 20:14:04 | spiralout | why do you want to reverse the polarity?? |
| 20:14:59 | thegeek | you have to |
| 20:15:07 | thegeek | the battery is made for the ipod I think |
| 20:15:12 | ep0ch | yeah |
| 20:15:16 | thegeek | and it's plug has the polarity reversed |
| 20:15:21 | ep0ch | i think i know how to do it now... |
| 20:15:22 | thegeek | compared to how the iriver plug is |
| 20:15:24 | thegeek | but |
| 20:15:25 | thegeek | make sure |
| 20:15:35 | thegeek | that the battery you have is a ipod battery |
| 20:15:41 | ep0ch | yeah it is |
| 20:15:44 | thegeek | mhm |
| 20:15:49 | James | ep0ch, you can probably just electircal tape and wires |
| 20:15:57 | ep0ch | hmmm |
| 20:16:07 | thegeek | you may be better of not touching the plug |
| 20:16:13 | thegeek | you could end up b0rking it |
| 20:16:21 | thegeek | better to just cut the wires and splice them |
| 20:16:24 | ep0ch | am gonna price off some plastic bit on the connector and see if the wires come out... |
| 20:16:47 | ep0ch | thegeek: thats my next option :) |
| 20:16:54 | thegeek | well |
| 20:17:02 | thegeek | you could end up destroying the connector |
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| 20:21:20 | HCl | hmmm. |
| 20:21:25 | HCl | sleep. rockbox. or gta san andreas |
| 20:21:29 | HCl | the dilemma. |
| 20:21:37 | ep0ch | rockbox! :) |
| 20:21:45 | HCl | i knew someone was gonna say that :P |
| 20:21:58 | ep0ch | same as sleep no? |
| 20:22:01 | HCl | i need more sleep.. |
| 20:22:02 | HCl | but |
| 20:22:04 | HCl | if i sleep now |
| 20:22:08 | HCl | i mess up my biorhythm |
| 20:22:23 | ep0ch | if you're tired sleep |
| 20:22:40 | ep0ch | society is wrong, we shouldn't have to do 9-5 |
| 20:22:42 | HCl | another point is that my flatmates are making too much noise to sleep properly |
| 20:22:46 | HCl | i know. |
| 20:22:48 | ep0ch | earplugs |
| 20:22:53 | HCl | i don't have them :/ |
| 20:23:02 | ep0ch | listed to rockbox :) |
| 20:23:08 | ep0ch | listen |
| 20:23:25 | ep0ch | ahh |
| 20:23:27 | ep0ch | coffee! |
| 20:23:50 | ep0ch | thegeek: did it without breaking the connector luckily |
| 20:24:16 | ep0ch | now i'll have fun opening up the ihp |
| 20:25:01 | ep0ch | or no i wont, i only have a T8... |
| 20:30:11 | thegeek | ;) |
| 20:30:20 | thegeek | I just use a small screwdriver |
| 20:30:23 | thegeek | that fits |
| 20:30:33 | ep0ch | hmmm interesting |
| 20:30:35 | thegeek | and it's very easy to open/change the battery |
| 20:30:45 | ep0ch | you're right! it fits |
| 20:30:58 | thegeek | just make sure its not too small |
| 20:30:59 | ep0ch | you just saved me some money |
| 20:31:01 | thegeek | ;) |
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| 20:34:08 | elinenbe | does anyone know where you can get ihp-120's for under $99? |
| 20:34:20 | thegeek | hahahahahahahah |
| 20:34:25 | thegeek | ;) |
| 20:34:28 | thegeek | that's funny |
| 20:34:54 | ep0ch | depends, do you want one that works? |
| 20:39:08 | ep0ch | thegeek: it aint easy! |
| 20:39:42 | ep0ch | would be if the power connector wasn't stuck behind the whole unit... |
| 20:42:01 | thegeek | you have to unscrew the pcb |
| 20:42:02 | thegeek | easy |
| 20:42:08 | thegeek | just make sure you don't scratch the lcd |
| 20:42:08 | ep0ch | oh i see |
| 20:42:11 | ep0ch | take out the HD |
| 20:42:19 | ep0ch | theres screws underneath |
| 20:42:21 | thegeek | and the plug might be a littl hard to get out |
| 20:42:27 | thegeek | just be careful and take your time |
| 20:42:30 | thegeek | mhm |
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| 20:47:47 | ep0ch | I can't see how the battery connector can get out, when the mains connector is in the way. I'll just keep on trying... |
| 20:49:54 | HCl | ahhh. |
| 20:49:59 | HCl | been there done that. |
| 20:50:06 | ep0ch | :D |
| 20:50:11 | HCl | ep0ch: just keep trying, it manages to get out after a while.. |
| 20:50:19 | HCl | i had to snip my plug of my new battery down a bit |
| 20:50:25 | HCl | so it would slide in to the connector |
| 20:50:31 | HCl | i broke my old battery connector while getting it out |
| 20:50:36 | ep0ch | well i've taken the wires out of the old connector... |
| 20:50:44 | HCl | mhm.. |
| 20:51:05 | HCl | what battery did you get? |
| 20:51:12 | ep0ch | 2200 |
| 20:52:18 | thegeek | Dette melder BBC, og dette skal være ny rekord. NTB skriver at 101 decibel tilsvarer lyden fra en motorsag i full drift, eller støyen en motorsyklist utsettes fra egen motor. |
| 20:52:21 | thegeek | crap |
| 20:52:22 | thegeek | sry |
| 20:52:37 | ep0ch | wrong window? ;) |
| 20:55:01 | thegeek | yep |
| 20:55:37 | thegeek | was about wimbledon champion Maria Sjarapova's "sounds" |
| 20:55:40 | thegeek | 101 db |
| 20:55:48 | thegeek | pretty insane;) |
| 20:56:07 | ep0ch | wonder if she's like that in bed... |
| 20:56:19 | ep0ch | only one way to find out! |
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| 20:56:22 | ep0ch | ;) |
| 20:56:34 | thegeek | hmm |
| 20:56:35 | thegeek | well |
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| 20:56:48 | thegeek | 101 db is so loud it would be uncomfortable beeing close to her |
| 20:57:16 | thegeek | a motorized grasscutter is like 98db |
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| 21:02:28 | ep0ch | so you'd prefer a grasscutter to sharapova? |
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| 21:03:56 | Coldtoast | hey. does next track info still work in wps? |
| 21:04:18 | Coldtoast | doesn't seem to work here |
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| 21:05:06 | Coldtoast | oh. weird. just worked when it changed tracks |
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| 21:07:13 | James | My IBM hard drive is password protected... What is the default master password? |
| 21:07:43 | ep0ch | are you in the right channel? |
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| 21:10:13 | James | yes - http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html |
| 21:10:43 | ep0ch | sorry my bad |
| 21:11:12 | James | no problem... this is such a pain |
| 21:11:18 | James | i got a used laptop hard drive |
| 21:11:26 | James | and i can't use it because it's password protected |
| 21:11:27 | thegeek | you might want to look into xbox hd unlocking |
| 21:11:40 | thegeek | lots of informatino regarding hd unlocking in that context |
| 21:11:47 | Coldtoast | oh man! you really want to hope it's not locked the same way the xbox is |
| 21:11:50 | thegeek | *information |
| 21:11:52 | Coldtoast | or it's useless |
| 21:11:57 | thegeek | yep;) |
| 21:12:01 | James | yah, that's what i've heard |
| 21:12:04 | Coldtoast | err... same way the xbox locks them I mean |
| 21:12:17 | Coldtoast | I have a 120GB sitting here completely useless |
| 21:12:21 | James | i'm pretty sure it's locked the same way |
| 21:12:37 | Coldtoast | only way to unlock it is to get a dump of the xbox it came from |
| 21:12:43 | James | :( |
| 21:13:14 | Coldtoast | hey. when displaying track info, do you like Artist followed by Track or Track/Artist |
| 21:13:16 | James | tech support won't help either "we can't give you the master password" (because we want you to buy a new drive) |
| 21:13:31 | Coldtoast | like, "Tool, Judith" or "Judith, Tool" |
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| 21:14:30 | spiralout | there is no song from tool called judith ...so thats not important :-P |
| 21:14:39 | Coldtoast | heh |
| 21:14:49 | spiralout | :-D |
| 21:14:54 | Coldtoast | you go tme |
| 21:15:04 | Coldtoast | A Perfecet Circle, Judith |
| 21:15:11 | spiralout | ;) |
| 21:15:12 | Coldtoast | or Judith, A perfect Circle? |
| 21:15:13 | Maxime`Mrn | [21:13] <Coldtoast> hey. when displaying track info, do you like Artist followed by Track or Track/Artist < artist - track |
| 21:15:21 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 21:15:24 | Maxime`Mrn | (for me..) |
| 21:15:34 | Coldtoast | you get a better ordered list with artist/track I suppose |
| 21:15:39 | spiralout | i prefer first track than artist |
| 21:15:43 | Maxime`Mrn | the ability to personalize this will be great no? |
| 21:15:50 | Maxime`Mrn | or too difficult ? |
| 21:15:53 | Coldtoast | I am personalising it |
| 21:16:00 | Coldtoast | just deciding on teh order |
| 21:16:17 | Maxime`Mrn | ^^ |
| 21:17:51 | Stryke` | in the tagdatabase, its quite annoying that when browsing by album, every artists tracks not tagged with an album have their own entry |
| 21:19:02 | Coldtoast | where's Screendump in rockbox? |
| 21:20:33 | Coldtoast | hmmm. can you take a shot of the wps from rockbox? |
| 21:21:37 | spiralout | yes in the debug menü |
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| 21:21:47 | Febs | Turn the screendump function on in the debug menu. When you plug in the USB cable, Rockbox will automatically create a bitmap in the root directory of whatever is on the screen. |
| 21:21:57 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 21:25:21 | HCl | Stryke`: there are several options for the database generator, i suggest you look into them. |
| 21:25:50 | Stryke` | do any group all non-album tagged files as one album? |
| 21:25:53 | James | Coldtoast, do you know how to send IDENTIFY commands to an ATA hard disk? |
| 21:26:09 | elinenbe | hcl: where's my dynamic realtime database? :-) |
| 21:26:27 | HCl | elinenbe: current database design does not allow it. |
| 21:26:52 | HCl | archos models have too little memory to faciliate a proper realtime database |
| 21:27:01 | HCl | but runtime info and db tool should be a fair solution |
| 21:27:03 | HCl | for now |
| 21:27:04 | elinenbe | HCl: time to get an iriver? :) |
| 21:27:21 | HCl | i have one. |
| 21:27:24 | HCl | i don't have archos models |
| 21:27:34 | HCl | its just that the people here want me to code for all platforms |
| 21:27:36 | HCl | not just iriver |
| 21:29:27 | Stryke` | HCL: sorry to repeat myself but do any implementations group all non-album tagged files as one album? |
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| 21:29:52 | HCl | an album is associated to a directory either way. |
| 21:30:01 | HCl | there's an option to force all files in a directory to be a single album |
| 21:30:37 | Stryke` | what i mean is, i have a bunch of single tracks (no album tag) by a bunch of different artists, each artist gets their own no-album entry in the Album list |
| 21:30:44 | HCl | yup |
| 21:30:50 | HCl | ofcourse they do. |
| 21:31:00 | HCl | why would they be in the same album? |
| 21:31:17 | Stryke` | same album tag |
| 21:31:39 | HCl | didn't you just say you had no album tag? |
| 21:31:43 | Stryke` | yes |
| 21:31:54 | HCl | are all the files in the same directory? |
| 21:31:55 | Coldtoast | http://www.3dluvr.com/edan/tmp/WPS.jpg |
| 21:32:09 | Stryke` | nope |
| 21:32:30 | HCl | then you really can't expect them to be put in the same album |
| 21:32:31 | HCl | sorry. |
| 21:32:38 | Stryke` | i understand |
| 21:33:01 | Stryke` | its just when i browse albums, and theres 70 or so no-album entries, its a bit disconcerting |
| 21:33:03 | HCl | there's no good reasoning behind putting files from across the filesystem with no album tag, all of different artists, in a single album |
| 21:33:33 | HCl | can't be helped, tag your files, i say |
| 21:33:38 | Stryke` | maybe tracks with no album tag should not be in the album list |
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| 21:34:07 | HCl | why not? |
| 21:34:25 | HCl | it makes sense to me to just associate them to the directory |
| 21:34:40 | HCl | you can use −−dirisalbumname to make it more readable perhaps? |
| 21:34:49 | Stryke` | thanks |
| 21:34:51 | HCl | it substitutes directory name for album name if there is no album tag |
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| 21:36:14 | ep0ch | thegeek, HCl: thanks battery is sorted now :) |
| 21:36:19 | HCl | :) |
| 21:36:41 | ep0ch | and i didn't loose a screw! |
| 21:36:51 | ep0ch | :p |
| 21:36:53 | HCl | :p |
| 21:37:05 | HCl | what about ending up with too many? :P |
| 21:37:13 | ep0ch | heh |
| 21:37:49 | spiralout | hey nice on @coldtoast can you post the files here..? ... http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=534.15 or maybe somewhere else |
| 21:38:04 | Coldtoast | I can zip it up |
| 21:38:14 | Moos | in WPS gallery |
| 21:38:33 | Coldtoast | there's hardly any info on screen tho. hehe |
| 21:38:36 | Moos | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
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| 21:39:14 | spiralout | yes wps gallery or a new wiki would be better |
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| 21:39:42 | spiralout | hmm i think i hav got a good wps |
| 21:39:50 | spiralout | works good for me |
| 21:40:00 | Coldtoast | it's pretty much all I want |
| 21:40:10 | Coldtoast | except I'd like estimated battery life on there too |
| 21:40:13 | ep0ch | Coldtoast: yeah that's nice :) |
| 21:40:26 | Coldtoast | but that can wait til it's all worked out |
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| 21:41:05 | Coldtoast | cool. Got a few little bitmaps there too |
| 21:41:07 | spiralout | works with bigger font sizes too right? |
| 21:41:17 | ep0ch | did cpu boost variable ever make it wps? |
| 21:41:17 | Coldtoast | you'd have to move the bitmaps |
| 21:41:24 | ep0ch | make it to wps |
| 21:41:34 | spiralout | works with bigger font sizes too doesn´t it? |
| 21:41:34 | Coldtoast | actually, there's space for bigger fonts |
| 21:41:47 | Coldtoast | didn't even think of that but it's there anyway :) |
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| 21:43:11 | spiralout | greyscale would be nice... |
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| 21:43:32 | spiralout | or even albumart in backround yeah:) |
| 21:44:36 | ep0ch | Coldtoast: sorry where can i get your wps? |
| 21:44:43 | Coldtoast | tried a larger font and it wipes on eof the bitmaps out so you'd have to move em |
| 21:44:48 | Coldtoast | I'll zip it up |
| 21:44:52 | ep0ch | ah cool |
| 21:45:40 | belgarath | my mp3s are being really dodgy when playing now... |
| 21:45:59 | Moos | Coldtoast : you can put the script directly in WPS gallery with dump |
| 21:46:13 | Coldtoast | need the bitmaps tho |
| 21:46:36 | Moos | yes for we can see it |
| 21:46:44 | ep0ch | belgarath: seems fine to me |
| 21:47:16 | Moos | Coldtoast: look @ http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
| 21:47:23 | ep0ch | belgarath: are they very high bit rate? |
| 21:47:32 | belgarath | 192kbs vbr |
| 21:47:44 | belgarath | they played ok after buffering for ages |
| 21:47:45 | ep0ch | ep0ch: might be resampler |
| 21:47:53 | belgarath | yeah i thought that |
| 21:48:17 | belgarath | couldn't code be put in to only resample non 44.1 khz? |
| 21:48:44 | ep0ch | yeah "could"... |
| 21:49:37 | belgarath | would that imply a major rewrite then? |
| 21:49:45 | ep0ch | no point as i believe the code for resampling will get moved later to work for all codecs |
| 21:52:04 | belgarath | its just doesn't the cpu being used much more for resampling mean the battery life will suffer? |
| 21:52:54 | ep0ch | belgarath: yes but i believe its just a temporary thing at the moment. |
| 21:53:16 | amiconn | belgarath: The current resampler is an intermediate solution and will be replaced |
| 21:53:54 | ep0ch | anyone know if rockbox Tremor is more efficient than iriver Tremor, whoever did the rockbox codec did a good job :) |
| 21:53:56 | Coldtoast | there ep0ch |
| 21:54:23 | ep0ch | cheers, never used a wps before |
| 21:54:54 | Coldtoast | put everything in .rockbox and load the .wps in settings |
| 21:55:09 | Coldtoast | didn't bother crating a subdir. heh |
| 21:55:29 | * | amiconn still uses the default wps on iriver |
| 21:55:47 | amiconn | Couldn't be bothered to create my own... |
| 21:56:01 | amiconn | ...although I did so on archos |
| 21:57:33 | ep0ch | Coldtoast: hmm I put the files in a sub dir (called wps), images don't appear, any idea off the top of your head? |
| 21:57:39 | Coldtoast | the little rockbox logo looks nice I think |
| 21:57:55 | Coldtoast | yeah. I didn't create subdirs |
| 21:58:05 | Coldtoast | I dumped all of it in .rockbox |
| 21:58:18 | Coldtoast | cos I'm lazy |
| 21:58:39 | ep0ch | so i have to reference the directory name in the .wps then? |
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| 21:59:43 | rasher | Is logf for plugins limited? |
| 21:59:56 | * | amiconn spots rasher |
| 21:59:59 | amiconn | hi rasher |
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| 22:00:17 | amiconn | logf() shouldn't be limited, |
| 22:00:27 | amiconn | or rather, have the same limits as in the core |
| 22:00:30 | rasher | wait, I'm an idiot |
| 22:00:50 | amiconn | Iirc you dd the 160px wide b&w rockbox logo? |
| 22:01:28 | rasher | nope |
| 22:01:42 | amiconn | No? Hmm. |
| 22:01:44 | rasher | That was already there when I arrived |
| 22:01:57 | rasher | the one used for the splash, right? |
| 22:02:01 | amiconn | yup |
| 22:02:06 | ep0ch | Coldtoast: cool just added wps/ infront of the image names, looks good!! |
| 22:02:17 | amiconn | I'd need a 4-grey version soon... |
| 22:02:30 | amiconn | (I hope) |
| 22:02:44 | rasher | \o/ |
| 22:02:50 | rasher | I'll have a look at it anyway |
| 22:04:07 | rasher | Hrm |
| 22:04:28 | rasher | Should I just use greys for less aliasing? |
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| 22:04:57 | Coldtoast | ep0ch: you'll need the .wps file itself in .rockbox tho |
| 22:05:06 | Coldtoast | or it won't work next time you boot rockbox |
| 22:05:20 | ep0ch | oh that explains it, ty |
| 22:05:23 | Coldtoast | np |
| 22:05:40 | ep0ch | is that a bug? |
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| 22:05:59 | Coldtoast | it's stated in the docs i think |
| 22:06:35 | ep0ch | yeah maybe i should read the docs one day... |
| 22:06:39 | Coldtoast | "If the "played" wps file is located in the /.rockbox folder, it'll be remembered and used for subsequent restarts" |
| 22:07:29 | Coldtoast | wish I had a font that looked decent that small tho. I had to manually create the lettering in PS |
| 22:07:30 | Coldtoast | heh |
| 22:10:17 | rasher | amiconn: rasher.dk/rockbox/160-2bit.png">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/160-2bit.png .. doesn't really look very good |
| 22:10:48 | rasher | (just did a simple resize and then change to 2-bit) |
| 22:13:47 | amiconn | Looks like that would need some work to really look nice |
| 22:13:58 | rasher | indeed |
| 22:14:04 | rasher | I'm not much of a graphics person |
| 22:14:05 | amiconn | Anyway, I don't need it right now, but in the not so far future |
| 22:14:20 | rasher | but I did have a high-res b&w logo lying around |
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| 22:20:29 | Maxime`Mrn | Coldtoast: may you make available your wps & files? ^^ |
| 22:20:36 | Maxime`Mrn | I like your theme lol |
| 22:21:15 | Coldtoast | sure thing |
| 22:21:48 | Maxime`Mrn | thx ^^ |
| 22:22:16 | Maxime`Mrn | thx ^^ |
| 22:22:24 | Coldtoast | np |
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| 22:26:16 | Flemmard | Maxime`Mrn: get the hell outta here ! |
| 22:26:17 | Flemmard | :p |
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| 22:32:38 | nxmja | hi all |
| 22:32:52 | nxmja | quick one... battery.dummy? |
| 22:33:07 | rasher | file in your root dir? |
| 22:33:21 | rasher | created by battery_test.rock |
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| 22:33:25 | nxmja | yeah thats it |
| 22:33:44 | nxmja | oh, so I can just get rid of it if I want... I did a test a few days back but hadn't checked the root |
| 22:33:59 | nxmja | ta rasher |
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| 22:40:42 | muesli- | jo |
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| 22:42:42 | Flemmard | erm, when will the greyscale be fully supported on rockbox? (if it's not?) |
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| 22:46:11 | Coldtoast | the iriver firmware is 1 bit so if any of the guys working on rockbox get any more than 1bit, cool! |
| 22:46:29 | rasher | It's using 2-bit |
| 22:46:33 | Coldtoast | err, it is 1bit, right? |
| 22:46:54 | rasher | 2-bit = black, white and 2 greys |
| 22:46:56 | Coldtoast | oh? whereare the other coliurs used? thought the progress bar was just dithered |
| 22:46:56 | Flemmard | iriver uses grayscale no? |
| 22:47:09 | amiconn | Coldtoast: The display can do 2bit natively |
| 22:47:14 | rasher | the usb-screen has 2-bit |
| 22:47:21 | crwl | and the boot logo has grayscales too |
| 22:47:23 | Coldtoast | oh. ok |
| 22:47:29 | amiconn | The remote is b&w only |
| 22:47:47 | amiconn | I am working on it |
| 22:47:49 | * | rasher sighs |
| 22:47:53 | amiconn | (the 2bit mode) |
| 22:48:03 | rasher | I've ported matrix from ipodlinux/podzilla |
| 22:48:10 | rasher | (screensaver-type thing) |
| 22:48:17 | Coldtoast | hey. an etch-a-sketch plug would be quite cute. hehe. that's 1 bit :) |
| 22:48:18 | rasher | Just need bitmaps of the font.. |
| 22:48:21 | Flemmard | erm |
| 22:48:33 | amiconn | rasher: special font? |
| 22:48:34 | rasher | Also, it's hella slow |
| 22:48:34 | Flemmard | the middle button on iriver, is designed by wich name? |
| 22:48:46 | Flemmard | BUTTON_SELECT ? |
| 22:48:55 | rasher | amiconn: yeah, matrix code |
| 22:49:20 | rasher | I'm just using a bitmap of a 1 and 0 right now |
| 22:49:22 | rasher | looks right |
| 22:49:51 | rasher | it's originally a port of cmatrix for linux |
| 22:49:52 | amiconn | Why is it slow? |
| 22:49:59 | amiconn | Floats? |
| 22:50:03 | rasher | lots of lcd_bitmap I think |
| 22:50:06 | rasher | hrm |
| 22:50:13 | rasher | don't think there are any floats |
| 22:50:27 | amiconn | I think matrix should be fast, even on archos |
| 22:50:33 | amiconn | It's plain 2d |
| 22:50:38 | Coldtoast | how many icons does rockbox use? and any chance of gettign access to them for the wps? |
| 22:50:38 | rasher | yes.. I'm wondering what's going on |
| 22:51:42 | rasher | hah |
| 22:51:45 | rasher | I was using logf |
| 22:51:53 | rasher | for each character being drawn |
| 22:51:56 | rasher | forgot about that |
| 22:52:04 | rasher | certainly too fast now |
| 22:52:23 | Bagder | hahah |
| 22:53:46 | Coldtoast | in the latest bleedign edge, the Playlist options in Settings looks lonely now with it's 1 option :) |
| 22:54:16 | belgarath | do playlists work with id3 database now? |
| 22:56:18 | amiconn | reboot, brb |
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| 22:59:52 | Flemmard | what's "dumb" ? |
| 22:59:56 | Flemmard | DUMB has been built. Run 'make install' to install it. |
| 22:59:58 | Flemmard | o_O |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:11 | rasher | Module/tracker library |
| 23:00:34 | Flemmard | ok |
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| 23:02:15 | preglow | amiconn: working on proper greyscale support? |
| 23:02:24 | amiconn | gfx api first |
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| 23:03:47 | preglow | Slasheri: gotten any further in integrating resampling? |
| 23:04:07 | Slasheri | preglow: yes, but it's not very easy to do. I am now coding dsp.c :) |
| 23:04:12 | preglow | oooooh |
| 23:04:17 | preglow | no, i can imagine it's not quickly done |
| 23:04:24 | Slasheri | We will get rid at least one memory copy buffer in mpa.c |
| 23:04:32 | preglow | very nice |
| 23:04:42 | muesli- | what does that mean? |
| 23:04:45 | preglow | but please, throughout, keep in mind we don't want to round to sixteen bits until the last stage |
| 23:04:49 | Bagder | we should make a linux layer for pcm playback in the sim |
| 23:04:50 | muesli- | *dumbask* |
| 23:04:51 | Slasheri | muesli-: little better performance |
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| 23:05:11 | muesli- | mk :) |
| 23:05:17 | Slasheri | preglow: yes |
| 23:05:27 | Slasheri | that dsp.c will handle also dithering/rescaling/clipping etc. |
| 23:05:33 | preglow | Slasheri: excellent, wonderful |
| 23:05:41 | n0bby | anyone planning an major iriver-related commits before tomorrow lunchtime? i'm going off on holidays and dont want to miss anything :) |
| 23:05:47 | rasher | Bagder: there's a patch in the tracker for that |
| 23:05:52 | preglow | Bagder: seems the dust has settled after your big commit yesterday too |
| 23:05:57 | Bagder | rasher: recent? |
| 23:06:05 | rasher | Bagder: not by far |
| 23:06:06 | preglow | i enjoyed audio playback with no hickups today |
| 23:06:12 | Bagder | goodie |
| 23:06:12 | preglow | so nice work |
| 23:06:23 | preglow | it sorely needed doing |
| 23:06:31 | Bagder | yes, it feels good to have that done |
| 23:06:36 | preglow | agreed |
| 23:06:44 | HCl | what was done exactly? |
| 23:07:19 | Bagder | the codecs are no longer faked plugins |
| 23:07:24 | HCl | ah right. |
| 23:07:27 | HCl | yup |
| 23:07:28 | HCl | good work |
| 23:07:46 | rasher | Bagder: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1094958 |
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| 23:07:55 | preglow | linus: hola |
| 23:07:57 | n0bby | since all the devs are online, i have a question. Does the iriver force a 3 second shutdown, or can settings be saved before the unit powers off? it keeps catching me out and losing my settings |
| 23:08:00 | amiconn | hi LinusN |
| 23:08:08 | * | amiconn slaps Linus a bit ;) |
| 23:08:18 | LinusN | ouch |
| 23:08:20 | * | n0bby pokes LinusN |
| 23:08:25 | preglow | n0bby: that can and should be fixed, afaik |
| 23:08:29 | Bagder | rasher: thanks, you tried it? |
| 23:08:52 | rasher | Bagder: It didn't apply when I tried.. see my comment on the tracker |
| 23:08:53 | preglow | Bagder: played snake2 smoothly while listening to music, was quite exilerating ;) |
| 23:09:05 | n0bby | the plugin issue is fixed? |
| 23:09:09 | amiconn | LinusN: That was not the nicest way, leaving broken player builds and 1/4 of the functions unusable on Ondio... |
| 23:09:11 | LinusN | n0bby: it doesn't save the settings? |
| 23:09:13 | preglow | n0bby: yeas |
| 23:09:19 | n0bby | w00t |
| 23:09:25 | n0bby | and no, iriver doesnt |
| 23:09:26 | LinusN | amiconn: i know, sorry about that |
| 23:09:34 | n0bby | or at least didnt on a build a few days ago |
| 23:09:44 | amiconn | I fixed that... instead of working on gfx |
| 23:09:45 | n0bby | im transfering 40GB music right now so i cant test |
| 23:11:07 | LinusN | amiconn: i shouldn't have taken away the functions from the menus |
| 23:11:28 | LinusN | but the ondio stuff still had to be done by an ondio owner |
| 23:11:44 | LinusN | hmm, i though i built the player to test... |
| 23:12:00 | LinusN | n0bby: which setting was this? |
| 23:12:37 | LinusN | "catching me out"? |
| 23:12:40 | n0bby | the most obvious one i noticed was invers screen :) |
| 23:12:40 | amiconn | LinusN: I can live with the current solution on Ondio... it might turn out as a good solution after some getting-used-to |
| 23:12:44 | n0bby | *inverse |
| 23:12:55 | amiconn | LinusN: Btw, what do you think about the solution? |
| 23:13:01 | LinusN | amiconn: good |
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| 23:13:19 | n0bby | "catching me out" as in, i alter a setting and shut it off without forcing disc access |
| 23:13:20 | LinusN | i wasn't really sure what the solution was |
| 23:13:28 | Flemmard | erm.. i think in plugins buttons "left" and "down" are buggy .. :x |
| 23:13:37 | amiconn | And btw, one of you could get an Ondio too... they're dead cheap compared to iriver |
| 23:13:40 | Flemmard | up and right goes well, but the others don't |
| 23:13:43 | amiconn | (at least the SPs) |
| 23:13:53 | LinusN | n0bby: some settings aren't stored until you leave the setting menu |
| 23:13:55 | rasher | Flemmard: which plugin? |
| 23:14:03 | Flemmard | rasher: one plugin I do |
| 23:14:08 | n0bby | linus: im pretty sure i did |
| 23:14:13 | n0bby | linus: not sure |
| 23:14:25 | rasher | Flemmard: I'm pretty sure the problem lies in your code |
| 23:14:29 | n0bby | linus: does save-on-shutdown happen now? |
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| 23:14:45 | Flemmard | rasher: eh, exactly the same code for left than for right.. it's quite strange |
| 23:14:58 | Flemmard | eh |
| 23:14:59 | Flemmard | i'm dumb |
| 23:15:03 | rasher | Well, they work in other plugisn |
| 23:15:03 | * | Flemmard −−> [- ] |
| 23:15:09 | Flemmard | forgotten "break;" ^^ |
| 23:15:24 | rasher | A classic |
| 23:15:36 | Flemmard | sry ^^ |
| 23:15:46 | * | HCl eyes his alarmclock |
| 23:16:03 | HCl | thats the second time it turned itself on to go off at 8 am |
| 23:16:04 | HCl | i swear. |
| 23:16:07 | HCl | its plotting an evil plan. |
| 23:16:13 | Flemmard | eheh.. quite better :x |
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| 23:16:14 | Flemmard | lol |
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| 23:16:21 | Nuxator | ji all |
| 23:16:27 | n0bby | Hcl: i set mine for 6PM in case that happens |
| 23:16:53 | Nuxator | LinusN: Do you remember my usb probleme with iriver rockbox? |
| 23:17:31 | LinusN | vaguely |
| 23:17:53 | Nuxator | I've go news : when i swith off my comp or suspend to ram Rockbox exit form usb mode |
| 23:18:28 | Nuxator | don't know why when i unplug it it doesn't detect it should exit usb mode |
| 23:19:59 | n0bby | does it happen on any pc or just yoursS? |
| 23:20:01 | n0bby | -s |
| 23:20:17 | Nuxator | any (windows linus decktop laptop...) |
| 23:20:28 | amiconn | Nuxator: You mean, when you pull the USB plug rockbox stays in USB mode, but noot when you powerdown the PC with the iriver still connected? |
| 23:20:35 | muesli- | g'n8 |
| 23:20:41 | amiconn | *not |
| 23:21:02 | Nuxator | yes |
| 23:21:17 | rasher | My, how appropriate - Matrix on tv |
| 23:21:26 | amiconn | Hmm. With iriver firmware this does not happen? |
| 23:21:30 | Nuxator | no |
| 23:21:42 | amiconn | LinusN: Probably some pull-down problem? |
| 23:21:54 | LinusN | might be |
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| 23:24:08 | Nuxator | Just wanted LinusN that i found a workaround to my prob , and maybe helping him to understand this problem.... |
| 23:24:18 | LinusN | thx |
| 23:25:17 | Nuxator | No thx you for rockbox, i was waiting for a such H140 firmware since i bought it (iriver's firmware is so desapointing) |
| 23:25:28 | Coldtoast | HAH! |
| 23:25:45 | n0bby | hah? |
| 23:25:58 | LinusN | what was the deal with the "shuffle playlist" option? |
| 23:26:04 | Coldtoast | like iriver would release a firmware with actual FIXES adn UPDATES |
| 23:26:20 | n0bby | linus: mixes up a playlist |
| 23:26:24 | rasher | Well they did, but not much |
| 23:26:31 | Bagder | LinusN: I believe it is a re-shuffle action |
| 23:26:43 | Nuxator | And it's usefull |
| 23:27:10 | Nuxator | if i add more than one directory to my playlist, only the first was shuffled |
| 23:27:10 | Bagder | well, you could do that before too |
| 23:27:18 | Bagder | ? |
| 23:27:23 | Bagder | no way |
| 23:27:34 | LinusN | i think it should be named "reshuffle" |
| 23:27:41 | Bagder | I fully agree |
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| 23:27:51 | Nuxator | But you can do the playlist in normal play mode |
| 23:27:59 | Nuxator | and then shuffle it if you want |
| 23:28:01 | LinusN | and "playlist" is a little misleading |
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| 23:28:40 | Bagder | Nuxator: that's how it always worked |
| 23:29:18 | Nuxator | es i know thats why reshuffling is usefull |
| 23:29:24 | Nuxator | es=yes |
| 23:29:27 | Bagder | ? |
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| 23:30:13 | Flemmard | LinusN: may we call the dumpscreen function with a plugin? |
| 23:30:16 | Nuxator | When i add directories in dynamic playlist ony the firs was shuffled |
| 23:30:33 | Nuxator | in random play mode |
| 23:30:39 | Bagder | that that is a bug |
| 23:30:43 | Bagder | then that |
| 23:30:54 | Bagder | imo |
| 23:31:15 | LinusN | Bagder: not easy to solve |
| 23:31:33 | Bagder | because we don't want to always reshuffle? |
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| 23:32:00 | LinusN | Bagder: yes |
| 23:32:01 | Bagder | I never use dynamic playlists, I have a hard time to see how its used |
| 23:32:13 | Nuxator | ooops wanted to shut down rockbox it crached |
| 23:32:28 | LinusN | Nuxator: that sometimes happen when you shut down with music playing |
| 23:32:29 | Bagder | fair enough |
| 23:32:33 | amiconn | Bagder: From what I understand, if you have shuffle enabled and add multiple dirs, each dir will be shuffled, but only within itself |
| 23:32:37 | Bagder | but I want it called "reshuffle" |
| 23:32:41 | Nuxator | ok whant error message? |
| 23:32:50 | LinusN | Nuxator: nah |
| 23:32:53 | Nuxator | ok |
| 23:32:59 | LinusN | Flemmard: what do you mean? |
| 23:33:14 | Nuxator | damn where is my reset paper clip |
| 23:33:15 | Bagder | amiconn: oh, right. the picture is clearing up here now |
| 23:33:23 | Flemmard | LinusN, in fact in one plugin I want to take a screenshot of the player .. |
| 23:33:28 | Flemmard | may I call the scren_dump function? |
| 23:33:47 | LinusN | no |
| 23:33:54 | Flemmard | ok |
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| 23:34:09 | Flemmard | 'have to make a similar function so? |
| 23:34:21 | n0bby | copy/paste the code and call that :P |
| 23:34:21 | Flemmard | ah no |
| 23:34:24 | LinusN | no, use the normal method |
| 23:34:34 | amiconn | So if someone wants to shuffle a whole list, but not save it beforehand, that reshuffle could be useful (not that I need it) |
| 23:34:40 | Flemmard | LinusN, in fact I'm doing a small draw plugin |
| 23:34:50 | Flemmard | so I want to allow to save what we do so.. |
| 23:34:54 | Bagder | amiconn: yes |
| 23:35:00 | Bagder | but we should call it reshuffle |
| 23:35:09 | Bagder | imho |
| 23:35:34 | amiconn | Bagder: The only way to have a whole list shuffled without reshuffle would be to create the list with shuffle disabled, then enable shuffle after adding all dirs |
| 23:35:46 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:35:47 | amiconn | ...while music is not playing |
| 23:36:05 | Bagder | which then would change seed and risk you playing the already played songs again |
| 23:36:18 | amiconn | yes |
| 23:36:39 | Bagder | but of course, that does reshuffle too |
| 23:36:43 | amiconn | Reshuffle is more suitable, I agree |
| 23:36:51 | amiconn | (as the name) |
| 23:37:04 | amiconn | That also translates better to German |
| 23:37:14 | amiconn | "Neu mischen" |
| 23:38:34 | preglow | i'm still struggling with 'crossfade' in norwegian :/ |
| 23:38:58 | amiconn | I wonder why t0mas didn't update dutch on the way |
| 23:39:06 | Nuxator | in Fench "Remélanger" |
| 23:39:16 | preglow | doesn't help me one iota :P |
| 23:39:17 | amiconn | I always update german when adding new strings |
| 23:39:47 | amiconn | Nuxator: Is that an a... with what accent?? |
| 23:39:55 | preglow | it's utf8, is what it is |
| 23:39:57 | amiconn | (no utf-8 supporthere) |
| 23:40:02 | Flemmard | "Fondu enchaine" plutot |
| 23:40:26 | rasher | Backlight fade-in is a bitch for Dansih |
| 23:40:38 | Nuxator | Reshuffle=Remélanger (ecute) |
| 23:40:38 | preglow | everything with 'fade' is a bitch in norwegian |
| 23:40:45 | preglow | we really have no good word for it that i'm aware of |
| 23:40:50 | rasher | There's a nice word for slowly shutting off the light |
| 23:40:58 | rasher | but nothing comparable for turning it on |
| 23:40:59 | n0bby | preglow: got a word for dim? |
| 23:41:01 | preglow | yes, that's 'blende' in norwegian |
| 23:41:10 | preglow | blende = dim |
| 23:41:19 | n0bby | unblende! |
| 23:41:26 | preglow | but i think it sounds silly when you use it for 'fade' |
| 23:41:28 | LinusN | Flemmard: we could export a save_bmp function to the plugin api |
| 23:41:29 | rasher | No "un" |
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| 23:41:38 | n0bby | is there an "un" eqivalent? |
| 23:41:46 | rasher | At least, Danish has nothing like that |
| 23:41:46 | | Quit kenshin (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 23:41:51 | | Quit Coldtoast ("Peace and Protection 4.22") |
| 23:42:03 | rasher | Nothing that works generally at least |
| 23:42:08 | preglow | i just translated it to 'kryssfade' while yelling ARGHHH NO MORE |
| 23:42:17 | rasher | There are some that work in some cases |
| 23:42:34 | rasher | preglow: how about something liek I did in Danish: sammenbland (to mix two things) |
| 23:43:00 | preglow | that'd work well in norwegian too, but i don't like the sound of it |
| 23:43:00 | preglow | heh |
| 23:43:01 | preglow | i'm picky |
| 23:43:07 | rasher | actually, I changed that |
| 23:43:12 | rasher | to "glidende overgang" |
| 23:43:22 | preglow | hmm |
| 23:43:24 | preglow | that's better, actually |
| 23:43:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:43:31 | n0bby | danish is hilarous sounding:D |
| 23:43:40 | rasher | We get that a lot |
| 23:44:19 | HCl | preglow: lmao. |
| 23:44:34 | * | preglow hands HCl his ass back |
| 23:44:57 | amiconn | rofl |
| 23:45:05 | * | preglow puts amiconn back on his feet |
| 23:45:25 | * | preglow starts interpreting abbreviations literally |
| 23:47:47 | n0bby | rotflmmfao |
| 23:47:51 | n0bby | :P |
| 23:47:53 | * | preglow faints |
| 23:48:58 | amiconn | rofl.l %d0 |
| 23:49:13 | Bagder | EIEIO |
| 23:49:16 | | Quit xen`` () |
| 23:49:31 | amiconn | Bagder: What's that???? |
| 23:49:31 | Bagder | good old ppc instruction |
| 23:49:38 | preglow | ahah |
| 23:49:44 | preglow | i like 'asl' |
| 23:49:47 | Bagder | an old favourite |
| 23:49:55 | preglow | always makes me smile, that |
| 23:50:59 | preglow | Bagder: it's "thou shalt", actually :P |
| 23:51:31 | Bagder | I had this feeling I'd get someone to point out my flaws there ;-) |
| 23:51:53 | preglow | haha |
| 23:52:31 | | Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") |
| 23:53:35 | Flemmard | LinusN, i've started one draw plugin, would you test? (if you have 2 minutes..) |
| 23:53:48 | Flemmard | (according to one "requested feature") |
| 23:53:49 | LinusN | sorry, i don't |
| 23:53:51 | Flemmard | ok |
| 23:54:14 | LinusN | Flemmard: someone else might be interested |
| 23:54:20 | Flemmard | yup |
| 23:54:36 | Flemmard | so want to test? :x ^^ |
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| 23:55:10 | bipple | Av we got radio on this thingy yet then laddys? |
| 23:55:54 | Flemmard | [23:41] <LinusN> Flemmard: we could export a save_bmp function to the plugin api < will be great yeah, like save_bmp(x, y, filename) (x, y is the zone to be saved) |
| 23:55:58 | LinusN | bipple: no |
| 23:56:32 | Bagder | Flemmard: go ahead and do that and submit a patch |
| 23:57:02 | bipple | WHats wrong with the radio ? |
| 23:57:48 | preglow | nothing wrong, it's just not been finished yet |
| 23:57:51 | | Quit amx ("leaving") |
| 23:58:09 | bipple | will i be able to recieve alien signals |
| 23:58:22 | Flemmard | Bagder: I'm afraid I don't know enough how rockbox's done to do this |
| 23:58:47 | Flemmard | (i'm a beginner of rockbox :x lol) |
| 23:59:00 | preglow | bipple: very likely, yes |
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