00:00:00 | preglow | no |
00:00:01 | amiconn | ...and it doesn't have USB mass storage, that's a severe lack |
00:00:02 | preglow | forget me |
00:00:02 | Coldtoast | if you're rubbing the thing constantly with your fingers, don't they show signs of wear? |
00:00:11 | preglow | amiconn: i bet we'd be able to fix that |
00:00:28 | Coldtoast | actually, I hear it does have mass storage |
00:00:42 | Coldtoast | but the DAP part is completely separate |
00:00:53 | Coldtoast | to listen to music on them, you don't just dump tracks on there |
00:00:54 | amiconn | Yes, that'sw what I mean |
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00:02:07 | elinenbe_ | looking at the mp3 −− there is definitly an issue with it, but it still shouldn't hang rockbox. |
00:02:15 | elinenbe_ | it plays fine on the PC |
00:02:30 | elinenbe_ | it can be found at www.linenberg.com/test.zip |
00:02:47 | * | Bagder gets it to his collection |
00:03:05 | Bagder | it hangs immediately? |
00:03:10 | preglow | sure, but i don't think that's an issue |
00:03:17 | preglow | i wont buy an ipod to use apples firmware ;) |
00:04:09 | Coldtoast | I know why it won't play |
00:04:13 | Coldtoast | it's Kylie Mingue |
00:04:29 | Coldtoast | moral decision on the h1x0's part |
00:04:32 | bill20r3 | hah |
00:05:53 | elinenbe_ | Bagder... it loads and loads and loads but never plays |
00:05:59 | elinenbe_ | although it doesn't "lock up" |
00:06:02 | preglow | but yeah, i'd overall be more interested in an ipod port than any other port i can think of |
00:06:08 | preglow | so might as well count me in |
00:06:15 | elinenbe_ | i can hit stop at any given time... |
00:06:41 | bill20r3 | an ipod port would get tons of interest |
00:06:49 | Bagder | elinenbe: ok, I named it "elinenbe-loads-loads-never-play.mp3" :-) |
00:06:58 | elinenbe_ | it just never plays. |
00:07:00 | elinenbe_ | exactly! |
00:07:01 | crashd | i dunno |
00:07:02 | elinenbe_ | ;-) |
00:07:05 | crashd | ipodlinux is already out there |
00:07:11 | crashd | and you guys are working towards a semi-shared goal |
00:07:34 | elinenbe_ | though it is WAY oversized for the length and quality −− and it can be zipped down... my feeling is the header is all fucked. |
00:07:38 | preglow | their development doesn't seem to move too fast |
00:07:39 | Bagder | I'd say most ipodlinux users have the same goal as rockbox users |
00:07:48 | crashd | preglow: i dunno, it moves |
00:07:52 | crashd | just not AS fast as rockbox |
00:07:58 | preglow | crashd: yeah, it didn't say it was at a standstill |
00:08:06 | preglow | at least coob seems to do work |
00:08:24 | preglow | but no commits since may isn't a particularily good sign |
00:08:29 | bill20r3 | although I'm more interested in an H3x0 port |
00:08:41 | preglow | well, yeah |
00:08:42 | crashd | my interest lies in the h10 port :P |
00:08:46 | Bagder | having more ports bring more people, and more people make better software |
00:08:49 | preglow | that'll probably happen independently |
00:09:14 | preglow | crashd: well, with a bit of luck, ipodbox should share quite a bit of code with h10box |
00:09:19 | elinenbe_ | the thing is... there are no commits since may, but there IS activity |
00:09:22 | crashd | preglow: yer |
00:09:25 | crashd | they are very similar hardware |
00:09:27 | elinenbe_ | i just don't think the webpage reflects that... |
00:09:33 | preglow | no, it doesn't |
00:09:44 | crashd | just need to get past the small problem on the h10 |
00:09:46 | crashd | and you're away ;) |
00:10:12 | elinenbe_ | such as read here: http://www.ipodlinux.org/2g_mini |
00:10:24 | elinenbe_ | CVS commits 2 days ago that add much functionality |
00:10:52 | amiconn | elinenbe: your test file plays just fine on archos :-P |
00:10:56 | Bagder | so their crontab broke ;-) |
00:11:04 | elinenbe_ | updated just recently: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Project_Status |
00:11:22 | crashd | preglow: i thought of something else the other day |
00:11:26 | crashd | regarding the encryption |
00:11:32 | crashd | but it lead to nothing : |
00:11:54 | Bagder | and they have a #ipodlinux here |
00:12:00 | crashd | yup |
00:12:03 | Cassandra | I think I'm going to move the quick menu to a long press on MODE. |
00:12:15 | amiconn | Bagder: On the downside, more ports means diversification, and more alpha- and beta-stage ports will make it even wose |
00:12:26 | Cassandra | Makes it marginally less convenient, but I prefer having it available for wps and browser. |
00:12:28 | amiconn | *worse |
00:12:37 | Cassandra | If only for consistency's sake. |
00:12:50 | Bagder | amiconn: yes, it increases complexity in several areas |
00:13:28 | amiconn | Bagder: I'm not against more ports, I merely think that new ports should get some time |
00:13:41 | Coldtoast | I reckon if you could emulate the TruBass setting in the iriver firmware, I'd be happy with just that |
00:13:41 | amiconn | ..until another one is started |
00:13:48 | preglow | well |
00:13:48 | preglow | what does it do? |
00:13:48 | Coldtoast | to be completely off topic |
00:14:04 | Cassandra | It's patented. We should be able to do something similar though. |
00:14:27 | Coldtoast | it seems to open the sound up a bit and has nice thick bass |
00:14:29 | preglow | Nilss is slightly crazy. He's managed to dump the first 64kb of the 4g's flash using the piezo, a mic, and a software decoding process. <- now this is a hacker |
00:14:35 | Coldtoast | you'd have to listen to it maybe |
00:14:41 | amiconn | Cassandra: I'm still for removing those odd quickscreens, and add those options to the context menu |
00:14:43 | crashd | hehe |
00:15:29 | Cassandra | I don't like blurring the function of the context menu like that. It acts on files. |
00:15:30 | amiconn | There'll always be units where it is difficult (iriver) or even impossible (Ondio) to fit the quickscreens |
00:15:59 | amiconn | Then make it a second context menu, perhaps call it action menu |
00:16:20 | Cassandra | *nods* I think you're right. |
00:16:30 | crashd | urgh |
00:16:35 | crashd | misticriver users are so unhelpful sometimes |
00:17:03 | amiconn | On Ondio it was even difficult to fit the context menu in the wps. Had to sacrifice direct access to the main menu to make it work |
00:17:04 | Cassandra | I'll let it gestate overnight and see if I can come up with a good way to do it. |
00:17:44 | Cassandra | Ondio could do with it too. |
00:17:59 | Cassandra | Maybe spliting the context menu in 2 is the way to go. |
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00:18:07 | amiconn | On a related issue, I think the suggestion to leave the browser with LEFT from the root to the wps if music is playing is a good thing? |
00:18:32 | Stryke` | very |
00:18:34 | Cassandra | It does that already, doesn't it? |
00:18:34 | amiconn | (For all targets except player) |
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00:18:40 | amiconn | Cassandra: Nope |
00:18:45 | Stryke` | you have to hit play to return to wps |
00:19:09 | amiconn | Stryke`: Imho this should be kept as an alternative way |
00:19:31 | Cassandra | I agree. |
00:19:46 | Stryke` | Well, i think it makes sense to give Play a better function during browsing |
00:19:52 | amiconn | As already mentioned, the same goes for archos recorders and Ondfio |
00:20:05 | Cassandra | Oh, I have a BDF file with ANSI chars in it. When I use bdfconv on it, Rockbox won't display any characters from it. |
00:20:28 | amiconn | Only on player this makes no sense, because the move-up button is STOP, and returning to wps with STOP is illogical |
00:21:00 | Stryke` | i happen to like the iPod way, where there is a Base Menu through which you can access their equivalent of WPS, Browser, and Settinga |
00:21:11 | Cassandra | I think it's missing a Unicode map. |
00:21:29 | Cassandra | Can't be done on Rockbox, sadly. |
00:21:41 | Cassandra | The code isn't structured right for it. |
00:21:48 | amiconn | Stryke`: The archos Ondio firmware uses a base menu as well, and I must say I don't like that method at all |
00:22:16 | amiconn | @Cassandra: Btw, the archos base menu uses a similar layout as our quick screens |
00:22:23 | Stryke` | its not a big deal to me, i have an odd question though |
00:22:33 | amiconn | ...using up/down on Ondio SP, and up/down/left/right on Ondio FM |
00:22:39 | Stryke` | if you stop playback before you shut down the player, why does it resume on start? |
00:22:48 | Stryke` | play == iriver |
00:22:51 | Bagder | hehe |
00:23:04 | Bagder | Stryke`: its just been debated a lot on the mailing list |
00:23:09 | Stryke` | oh |
00:23:15 | Bagder | it is for historical reasons from other players |
00:23:30 | amiconn | Please don't remove that |
00:23:31 | preglow | someone should bug portalplayer until they release specs |
00:23:38 | Stryke` | i happen to love (maybe just got used to) the iRiver resume |
00:23:40 | preglow | i don't exactly relish the thought of disassembling firmware |
00:23:41 | Cassandra | You can stop it by setting Resume on Start to "Ask" or "no" |
00:24:04 | Bagder | I would like resume to become autoplay and have it always get resume position |
00:24:05 | crashd | preglow: it aint gonna happen |
00:24:12 | crashd | they have a nice monopoly on it |
00:24:16 | Cassandra | stryke: Doesn't the PLAY key do the same in Rockbox for you? |
00:24:30 | Bagder | the select key |
00:24:31 | crashd | and even if they did, i wouldnt want to write a flash boostrap for the pp based stuff |
00:24:35 | amiconn | Stryke`: This is a 2-fold safety measure for some archoses, but one of the reasons is true for all targets |
00:24:36 | preglow | crashd: well, small wonder, it's their bloody chip |
00:24:38 | crashd | and iriver sure as hell wont give out their encryption keys :\ |
00:24:43 | crashd | preglow: ? |
00:25:02 | preglow | crashd: in your case you just need to disassemble some stuff and you've got them |
00:25:05 | Stryke` | amiconn: so the possibility is there for an h1x0 specific resume? |
00:25:21 | crashd | preglow: yer i know |
00:25:24 | amiconn | Stryke`: As I said, I very much want to keep the current behaviour |
00:25:28 | crashd | i just wish there was more than one person who seemed interested enough |
00:25:34 | Stryke` | im curious as to why |
00:25:36 | crashd | as i just dont have enough spare time right now |
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00:26:31 | amiconn | Stryke`: If rockbox would only resume when shutdown while playing, it is *very* easy to loose the resume position |
00:26:43 | amiconn | ...since stop and off are on the same button |
00:26:44 | Stryke` | or paused |
00:27:22 | amiconn | Just pressing the off button a little too short and the resume position is gone |
00:27:30 | Cassandra | Besides, I *like* being able to resume after I've pressed STOP. |
00:27:40 | amiconn | Yes, definitely |
00:27:50 | Stryke` | i suppose im just used to iRiver resume |
00:27:55 | Bagder | but my solution would fix it |
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00:28:02 | Bagder | for both camps |
00:28:13 | Stryke` | and what is it Badger? |
00:28:19 | Cassandra | What's your solution? |
00:28:25 | Bagder | if it would _always_ get the resume position |
00:28:32 | Bagder | but only _use_ it if autoplay was set |
00:28:50 | Bagder | otherwise you'd have to ask for resume |
00:29:02 | Bagder | the second being more like on iriver firmware |
00:29:22 | Stryke` | anything in the way? |
00:29:28 | amiconn | That's the way it is now, after Cassandra's change... |
00:29:29 | Bagder | there's no downside in always getting the resume position, since if you don't care you can just play another file |
00:29:39 | amiconn | ...or am I wrong? |
00:29:55 | Cassandra | How is that different from having resume on startup set to "yes" or "no" respectively. |
00:30:09 | Cassandra | I don't think you are, ami. |
00:30:09 | Stryke` | maybe Resume and "Autoplay" need to be separated |
00:30:12 | Bagder | does no get the position? |
00:30:17 | Stryke` | i like Resume, not Autoplay |
00:30:18 | Cassandra | Yes. |
00:30:22 | Cassandra | Try it. |
00:30:33 | Bagder | ok, then it certainly seems identical ;-) |
00:30:47 | Bagder | Stryke`: you were just saying it shouldn't start playing |
00:30:55 | Stryke` | yes |
00:31:02 | Bagder | so set resume to no |
00:31:04 | amiconn | I think Stryke` means the unit should remember if it was shutdown while playing/paused or while stopped |
00:31:10 | ep0ch | night |
00:31:11 | Bagder | yes |
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00:31:20 | Bagder | hm |
00:31:40 | Bagder | I personally don't think of that as very important |
00:31:43 | Stryke` | amiconn: yes |
00:31:56 | Bagder | its just an extra keypress on boot to resume, if you really don't like it to start automatically |
00:32:01 | Cassandra | Just press the resume key if you want to resume. |
00:32:10 | amiconn | I'd say that's unneeded, because *I* surely can't remember how I did shutdown the unit the other day |
00:32:21 | Bagder | I agree |
00:32:26 | Cassandra | I prefer that to me having to remember the state. |
00:32:28 | Bagder | I love our resume |
00:32:33 | amiconn | ..so I had to use the display |
00:32:42 | Stryke` | so, is there a way for me to turn on my player, have it not start playing, but still resume from the point i stopped? |
00:32:51 | Cassandra | Yes. |
00:33:01 | amiconn | The way it is now, I can pre-press the answer button, without looking at the display a single time |
00:33:10 | Cassandra | Set "Resume on startup" to "no" and have a short tap on the play key. |
00:33:19 | Stryke` | perfect, i was unaware that worked |
00:33:22 | Cassandra | I believe I explained that about 50 lines ago. |
00:33:30 | Cassandra | It didn't. Until yesterday. |
00:33:39 | bill20r3 | my remote just arrived |
00:33:40 | bill20r3 | yay! |
00:33:44 | Stryke` | oh, thanks then |
00:33:50 | amiconn | (Well, the pre-pressing only works for rockbox in flash, i.e. on archos atm) |
00:34:36 | Cassandra | You know, with the new resume behaviour, "Ask once" and "Ask" are kind of redundant anyway. |
00:34:51 | amiconn | Almost |
00:35:11 | Cassandra | When are they not? |
00:35:37 | amiconn | You mean Ask once redundant to ask. That's indeed the case. |
00:35:52 | Cassandra | No, ask is redundant as well. |
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00:36:14 | Cassandra | Think about it. You turn the player on, you hit play if you want to resume, anything else if you don't., |
00:36:17 | amiconn | If Ask Once doesn't clear the resume position on a negative answer, it's identical to ask |
00:36:35 | Cassandra | It does still clear the position, |
00:36:43 | amiconn | Cassandra: Yes, but you turn on the player with the very same button, and so on startup it is filtered |
00:37:01 | amiconn | ...but ask uses a different button |
00:37:32 | amiconn | That's true for all units but the Ondios |
00:37:57 | amiconn | (where both the answer button and the resume button are different from the power button) |
00:38:22 | amiconn | iriver: poweron = play, resume = play, ask: yes = select |
00:38:40 | amiconn | recorder: poweron = on, resume = on, ask: yes = play |
00:38:59 | amiconn | ondio: poweron = onoff, resume = mode, ask: yes = right |
00:39:03 | Cassandra | The filtering doesn't seem to make a difference. |
00:39:16 | Cassandra | I mean you have to wait for the thing to boot before "confirming" anyway. |
00:39:25 | Bagder | it feels a bit weird that databox is the biggest plugin we have |
00:39:32 | ]RowaN[ | is dapstore.com the only place for iriver compatible hds guys? |
00:39:33 | Bagder | except for rockboy |
00:39:57 | Cassandra | I should also mention that the resume code is actually buggy, and will ignore your first press on the ON button. |
00:40:08 | Cassandra | That's why I tried (unsuccessfully) to rip it out. |
00:40:13 | amiconn | Cassandra: No I don't have to wait if rockbox is flashed, that's the point |
00:40:46 | amiconn | I can tap On-Play on archos recorder within < 1 sec, and it still accepts this as 'yes' |
00:40:48 | Cassandra | I'm assuming that only applies to Ondio currently. |
00:41:10 | amiconn | No, it apllies to all archoses |
00:41:13 | Cassandra | Since for all other models, you have to wait for the disk to spin up anyway. |
00:41:15 | amiconn | *applies |
00:41:26 | elinenbe_ | amiconn: how is the grfx lib coming? |
00:41:36 | amiconn | You can answer before the disk is spinning, the button queue buffers the answer |
00:41:58 | amiconn | elinenbe: lcd_bitmap is hard |
00:42:23 | Cassandra | Doesn't work on my FM, ami. |
00:42:36 | amiconn | Hmm, strange |
00:42:54 | amiconn | It's working on all of rec v1, player, and ondio here |
00:43:04 | Cassandra | Oh, it does, provided you leave a short gap between on and play. |
00:43:24 | amiconn | Yes, but you need < 1 sec |
00:43:45 | amiconn | ...just enough to let the button driver initialise |
00:44:05 | Bagder | now we can decrease plugin buffer size to 20K on players, should we want to |
00:44:15 | Cassandra | If it could be made to work, would you object to double click on ON instead? |
00:44:20 | amiconn | 20 K sounds weird |
00:44:26 | Bagder | biggest current player plugin is 18088 bytes |
00:44:38 | amiconn | Cassandra: That's not safely possible |
00:44:48 | Bagder | biggest recorder one is 25968 |
00:45:08 | amiconn | ...because it can't be made sure whether it will catch a still pressed ON button or not |
00:45:21 | amiconn | That depends on how long ON is held down |
00:45:33 | elinenbe_ | amiconn: good luck with it. |
00:45:39 | Cassandra | ami: If you have to wait for delta < time < 1sec anyway, I can't see why you can't just wait until the unit has booted. |
00:45:43 | amiconn | Bagder: I might want to increase plugin size on recorders and ondios a bit |
00:45:57 | Cassandra | We could simply clear the button queue on startup. |
00:46:03 | amiconn | Noooooooooooooooo |
00:46:05 | Bagder | amiconn: what are you planning? |
00:46:17 | amiconn | Bagder: A buffered greyscale lib |
00:46:23 | Bagder | aah |
00:46:33 | amiconn | Much better suited for animated graphics |
00:46:40 | Bagder | well, it looks like there is some room within the current limits as well |
00:46:52 | amiconn | ...but needing 2 7-KB-buffers for fullscreen |
00:46:57 | amiconn | (delta buffers) |
00:47:12 | amiconn | I'm thinking about 48 KB, or max 64 |
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00:47:45 | Cassandra | I would really like to ditch the resume screen if I can, since it's basically code we don't need any more, provided we can solve your problem satisfactorily, and it doesn't work properly anyway. |
00:47:48 | Bagder | I'm thinking about sleep ;-) |
00:48:03 | * | Bagder fades away |
00:48:20 | amiconn | Bagder: 16-greylevel fullscreen would then need a total of 28 KB buffers, and 32-greylevel fullscreen 42 KB |
00:48:43 | Bagder | sounds... fun! |
00:48:43 | amiconn | Cassandra: What doesn't work properly? |
00:49:00 | amiconn | Bagder: rough roadmap: |
00:49:08 | Cassandra | As I say, if the first key you press in the resume screen is ON, Rockbox usually ignores it. |
00:49:19 | preglow | hah |
00:49:28 | preglow | tremor uses a fairly fancy way to do clipping ;) |
00:49:40 | amiconn | (1) 4-grey mode for iriver (2) solid grey rotating cube (3) buffered greyscale lib (4) solid grey cube on archos |
00:49:50 | Cassandra | Because most of the time, the event you're trying to protect against (spurious play signal at startup) doesn't happen. |
00:50:02 | amiconn | Cassandra: Yes I know |
00:50:08 | Cassandra | s/play/on/ |
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00:50:14 | amiconn | ...and I just had an idea how to get rid of it |
00:50:21 | preglow | i wonder if it's any faster |
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00:50:47 | preglow | amiconn: do you know anything about how branching affects the coldfire pipeline? is that accounted for in the instruction timing table? |
00:51:07 | amiconn | The problem is that the button driver always sends BUTTON_ON down event, even if the button is already held down, so we have to protect against it |
00:51:32 | amiconn | That's because the initial button state variable value is always all buttons up |
00:51:48 | amiconn | It should be initialised to the current state on driver init |
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00:52:25 | amiconn | This way we would receive a couple of button repeats and then a release, but since we only react on a press, this wouldn't hurt |
00:52:37 | nickeby | is anybody interested in example of an mp3 track that plays at the wrong bitrate |
00:52:45 | ac | hi all |
00:52:47 | nickeby | as a sort of bug report |
00:53:07 | amiconn | preglow: There are some preconditions listed |
00:53:37 | amiconn | I think it doesn't influence timing as long as the code is cached |
00:53:52 | amiconn | ...or maybe in SRAM (is SRAM single cycle?) |
00:54:19 | Cassandra | Right. *nods* |
00:54:43 | preglow | sram is |
00:54:51 | amiconn | Bah, I'm talking too much and coding too little :-/ |
00:55:55 | * | ac thinks that he will by a iaudio x5 as next player and port rockbox to it |
00:56:24 | preglow | ac: then hooray! |
00:58:07 | preglow | may your luck be good and your bricked players few |
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01:18:20 | nickeby | i've searched the bugs and patches on SF.net but can't find if anybody has reported an mp3-bitrate-related bug in the iRiver port |
01:18:28 | nickeby | i don't know if i'm describing in a useful way, but: |
01:18:34 | nickeby | the track simply plays at half speed |
01:19:08 | nickeby | does it sound like areportable bug, if not just tell me to shut up and go back to work |
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01:20:48 | Cassandra | There's still problems with playback performance. |
01:21:03 | Cassandra | Particularly if it's other than 44kz audio. |
01:21:20 | nickeby | it's a 44khz encoded mp3 |
01:22:38 | nickeby | 128 kbps bitrate, sampled at 44kHz |
01:23:52 | preglow | recent build? |
01:24:17 | preglow | is it a stereo file? |
01:24:20 | nickeby | todays daily' |
01:24:24 | nickeby | 2 channel stereo |
01:24:53 | nickeby | the build file i DL's was: rockbox-h100-20050627.zip |
01:25:00 | preglow | are you absolutely certain about it begin 44khz? |
01:25:06 | preglow | being |
01:25:13 | nickeby | windows file explorer and itunes both report 44kHz |
01:25:22 | nickeby | what else should i check it with? |
01:25:32 | preglow | nah, i expect they know what they're doing |
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01:25:48 | preglow | well, not much you can do apart from giving us the file in question |
01:26:02 | preglow | if you feel like it |
01:26:20 | nickeby | if that would help i'd be glad to |
01:26:32 | nickeby | how can i get it to somebody - email |
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01:27:15 | preglow | you could mail me it, i suppose |
01:27:22 | preglow | thomj@glow.m0f0.net |
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01:30:52 | nickeby | mail'd |
01:31:31 | preglow | i'll have a look now |
01:32:09 | preglow | it's a 22050hz file |
01:32:12 | preglow | that's been mistagged |
01:32:29 | preglow | it sure doesn't sound like it, though :/ |
01:33:51 | preglow | this file is quite simply mistagged |
01:34:40 | nickeby | gotcha |
01:36:02 | preglow | i'm not intimately familiar with this, though |
01:36:14 | preglow | i wouldn't have thought rockbox relied on the id3 tag for its sample rate info |
01:37:57 | ac | preview: possible way to code with the gui lib i am working on.. note.. only fast example of api.. not running!! http://nopaste.php-q.net/143790 |
01:39:51 | preglow | but of course |
01:39:59 | preglow | mpa.c DOES rely on the id3 info |
01:40:04 | preglow | looks like that needs to stop |
01:40:31 | ac | what do you think about the gui example code? |
01:40:39 | preglow | nickeby: but yeah, thanks for reporting it, will fix it some time ;) |
01:40:51 | preglow | i'm too tired to look at code currently |
01:40:54 | nickeby | good luck with that. keep up the good work i think it's a kick axx project |
01:41:14 | nickeby | feel like i got a new h120 this morning |
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01:41:27 | preglow | haha |
01:41:31 | preglow | oh well |
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01:41:33 | preglow | later all |
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02:23:09 | HCl | gnight. |
02:23:19 | Moos | good night HCl |
02:23:41 | tvelocity | i wish i was on a real computer right now |
02:24:03 | Moos | :) |
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03:44:35 | boogawu | does anyone here know the gmini120 well? |
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08:17:42 | Slasheri | hi |
08:17:50 | amiconn | B4gder: haha, funny commit. HCl might not like it... |
08:18:02 | Slasheri | the player did not crash with crossfade disabled (was playing over night and still working) |
08:18:10 | B4gder | hcl does not think about such issues |
08:18:15 | B4gder | I think |
08:19:33 | B4gder | it annoyed me that databox was the single largest plugin :-) |
08:19:46 | amiconn | There is a reson why there is such an odd amount of tokens - 70. I reduced that to make it fit on archos; it was 100 before... |
08:19:55 | B4gder | hehe |
08:21:40 | * | amiconn solved the pixel puzzle in the middle of the night |
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12:20:46 | HCl | cats are cute |
12:20:50 | HCl | yupyup |
12:21:25 | Bger | hehehe |
12:27:12 | * | HCl slaps windows |
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12:27:38 | Moos | Hi all |
12:27:48 | HCl | its samba handling is such crap that i have to resort to using smbclient on my server, then transfer the file with ftp |
12:27:54 | HCl | hi |
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12:46:20 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/langv2 |
12:46:24 | B4gder | work in progress |
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13:02:54 | Coldtoast | hey. found some 64kbps, 44KHz mono MP3s that only produce output in the left channel |
13:03:09 | Coldtoast | but they're L+R with the iriver firmware and also in Winamp |
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13:04:14 | B4gder | I could add it to my collection of problematic songs |
13:04:24 | Coldtoast | ok |
13:04:46 | Coldtoast | http://thisweekintech.com/aggregator/sources/9?PHPSESSID=db69a6039fc698fd7acccdbeb176aeb6 |
13:04:54 | Coldtoast | I think all of those ones |
13:05:37 | B4gder | you have a plain mp3 version anywhere? |
13:06:15 | Coldtoast | I can DCC, yeah |
13:06:49 | B4gder | well I can't receive ;-), wait... |
13:07:00 | Coldtoast | ok |
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13:12:53 | amiconn | B4gder: I like your wildcard idea, and btw, using it, your last <source> can be simplified to h?00: "phrase adjusted to h100 and h300" |
13:13:03 | amiconn | And btw, it's 'adjusted' |
13:13:07 | amiconn | (typo) |
13:14:16 | amiconn | I'd suggest to use the same target IDs as in the configure script |
13:16:15 | B4gder | yes, that would be conveniant |
13:16:51 | amiconn | Imho the configure IDs should be changed to your list, not vice versa |
13:16:59 | amiconn | Your list seems much more logical |
13:17:25 | B4gder | but changing the configure one has an impact on all the auto builds |
13:17:44 | B4gder | still I agree with you |
13:25:16 | amiconn | I would suggest to name the file defining the actual array .inc, not .c, to point out the way it is used |
13:25:47 | B4gder | well, I aim at not having it included |
13:26:12 | B4gder | the include would just be the initial approach |
13:27:38 | B4gder | but I guess we can rename it then |
13:27:39 | amiconn | The build system has to generate a lang.h/lang.c for the core as well, and btw, I would name the plugin localisation files lang-<pluginname>.(h|inc) |
13:28:41 | amiconn | The voice file format must be adapted as well |
13:29:04 | B4gder | yes |
13:29:35 | B4gder | I'm not very familiar with voicing, so I've left that out of my text so far |
13:30:58 | amiconn | The voice file format is defined at the top of talk.c |
13:31:01 | B4gder | there, adapted your comments |
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13:31:32 | amiconn | (struct voicefile and struct clip_entry) |
13:31:59 | amiconn | We'll probably need a encoding type field in the global header as well |
13:32:10 | B4gder | ah, yes |
13:32:20 | B4gder | we should have one in the fonts as well |
13:32:36 | amiconn | ? |
13:33:06 | amiconn | Font format is identical for all currently supported platforms |
13:33:08 | B4gder | I mean, iso-8859-2 kind of |
13:33:34 | amiconn | I'd rather not do that; I'd like to switch to unicode instead |
13:33:42 | B4gder | true |
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13:34:39 | amiconn | Perhaps we'll need a font bitmap format identifier one day in case we'll have a platform with a different b&w bitmap format |
13:35:06 | amiconn | (may happen if someone picks up the gmini port and extends it to the 2x0 |
13:36:16 | amiconn | Voice file encoding type means codec used, but with a special exception - archos should get its bitswapped mp3 as today |
13:36:34 | amiconn | VOICEFMT_MP§_BITSWAPPED |
13:36:40 | amiconn | MP3 |
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14:00:34 | [IDC]Dragon | hi guys |
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14:00:52 | B4gder | hey Jörg |
14:01:18 | [IDC]Dragon | hey Björn |
14:01:26 | west-acre | H1x0: Reordered lcd init sequence to match the datasheet, including the recommended pause. what is this? |
14:01:31 | B4gder | I'm not Björn ;) |
14:01:48 | Bger | haha |
14:01:57 | [IDC]Dragon | wrong b*g*er? |
14:02:14 | B4gder | no, Björn is Zagor |
14:02:22 | Bger | Zagor = Bjöorn iirc |
14:02:34 | B4gder | west-acre: a commit message? |
14:02:35 | [IDC]Dragon | oops, Daniel |
14:02:41 | west-acre | kewl |
14:02:42 | west-acre | hey the "Recent CVS activity" is that applicable to all DAPs unless it states otherwise? |
14:02:45 | [IDC]Dragon | it's been a while... |
14:03:01 | B4gder | west-acre: nah, it depends on the file and the change |
14:03:08 | west-acre | rite |
14:03:13 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn, do you read? |
14:03:35 | [IDC]Dragon | I've seen you mentioning the Seagate disk |
14:03:43 | amiconn | yup |
14:03:58 | [IDC]Dragon | watch for the standby current, it's pretty high |
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14:04:25 | [IDC]Dragon | 0.34 W or so as opposed to 0.1W for "normal" drives |
14:04:52 | amiconn | Strange... |
14:04:54 | [IDC]Dragon | plus, I don't like 5400rpm for DAPs |
14:05:34 | [IDC]Dragon | (spinup time, power, gyro-force) |
14:06:26 | amiconn | Yeah right, but (1) this disk size isn't available as 4200 rpm, and they say power consumption isn't higher than a typical 4200 |
14:07:07 | [IDC]Dragon | true, but I'm just afaid of cheating |
14:07:11 | amiconn | ...which is obviously wrong for standby |
14:07:28 | [IDC]Dragon | ...which has nothing to do with rpm |
14:07:42 | amiconn | Yes, really strange |
14:07:54 | [IDC]Dragon | bad electronics |
14:08:33 | [IDC]Dragon | Trevor still seems to have hotswap problems, iir his posting correct |
14:08:47 | amiconn | Yes, read that |
14:08:57 | amiconn | My guess is that it is a hardware problem |
14:09:12 | amiconn | ...this is easy to test |
14:09:12 | [IDC]Dragon | you need to wreck another of his boxes ;-) |
14:09:34 | amiconn | He should just try to plug/unplug with the archos firmware |
14:09:48 | amiconn | When I am right, this will also crash |
14:10:09 | amiconn | -> Either bad contact or something causes a short-circuit during plugging |
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14:12:29 | amiconn | I do have a shiny new lcd_bitmap(), with draw modes and all |
14:13:13 | amiconn | I'll do some tests tonight, then I am facing the tedious task to change *all* 200+ calls |
14:13:23 | [IDC]Dragon | perl? |
14:13:36 | amiconn | Can't be automated |
14:13:38 | crashd | time to bust out the regexps |
14:13:39 | crashd | ; } |
14:14:53 | [IDC]Dragon | why no automation? |
14:15:12 | amiconn | The last parameter (clear) has to go |
14:15:47 | amiconn | It has to be replaced by a preceding lcd_set_drawmode() (and following reset as needed) |
14:15:59 | [IDC]Dragon | so you can automate all with clear=true |
14:16:19 | [IDC]Dragon | which should be the vast majority |
14:16:24 | amiconn | The calls are often split into multiple lines |
14:16:46 | [IDC]Dragon | who has it false? |
14:16:49 | amiconn | ...and the parameters are often expressions |
14:17:06 | amiconn | There are a number of calls with clear == false |
14:18:57 | [IDC]Dragon | the old lcd_bitmap() must have been almost optimal for 8-pixel aligned output |
14:19:21 | [IDC]Dragon | I think I put that memcpy() shortcut in there |
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14:20:25 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I reworked that back then, so I know what it does |
14:20:42 | amiconn | My new version also does this, plus it takes advantage of some more opts |
14:21:03 | [IDC]Dragon | I've been sure about that ;-) |
14:21:32 | west-acre | hey is the remote on the iriver gonna display menus etc. rather than the rockbox logo? |
14:22:12 | amiconn | Like, if the data is aligned but not drawing solid, it can't use memcpy() but it can work row-wise instead of column-wise, because the rows are independent |
14:22:40 | amiconn | Same goes for partial rows when drawing solid |
14:22:54 | amiconn | ..and aligned of course |
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14:23:04 | [IDC]Dragon | ok |
14:23:55 | amiconn | I did some more opts to my area filling as well |
14:24:37 | [IDC]Dragon | what was that idea in the middle of the night? |
14:25:28 | amiconn | That 'pixel puzzle' was lcd_bitmap() |
14:26:46 | * | [IDC]Dragon needs to build that bunch of bootboxes' |
14:27:03 | amiconn | Did you solve the player problem? |
14:27:13 | [IDC]Dragon | there was none |
14:27:29 | [IDC]Dragon | false alert, rebuilt fine |
14:28:25 | [IDC]Dragon | yesterday I got my 1und1 login, so I should have webspace again |
14:29:28 | [IDC]Dragon | and a non-functioning modem |
14:29:28 | amiconn | For bootbox images I don't see a problem putting them into the wiki |
14:30:10 | [IDC]Dragon | finally yes, but i don't want to pollute it with test versions |
14:30:46 | [IDC]Dragon | what's that DSL modem standard? U-2R or so |
14:30:55 | amiconn | ur-2 |
14:31:24 | [IDC]Dragon | that's what I'm lacking from telekom |
14:31:45 | [IDC]Dragon | I have one of those anchient, proprietary modems |
14:31:47 | amiconn | My old Siemens modem is still running fine |
14:32:16 | [IDC]Dragon | mine too, but the new box doesn't work with my line |
14:32:48 | amiconn | You need to tell Telekom to switch the line to ur-2 |
14:33:06 | amiconn | Then your new modem should work, but the old one won't work anymore |
14:33:09 | [IDC]Dragon | 1&1 should do that |
14:33:23 | amiconn | Then tell them |
14:33:43 | [IDC]Dragon | I have to, but the oughta know |
14:33:51 | [IDC]Dragon | ... they |
14:34:24 | [IDC]Dragon | not every customer is in those details |
14:34:53 | amiconn | I'll stick with T-Online |
14:35:08 | [IDC]Dragon | and congster? |
14:35:46 | [IDC]Dragon | I was surprized to see my old modem handle 3Mbit seamlessly |
14:36:16 | [IDC]Dragon | or perhaps 6Mbit, at the end of the week |
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15:23:09 | Bger | someone using vim here ? |
15:23:38 | crashd | not on your life boy |
15:24:18 | * | ashridah huggles vim |
15:24:41 | Bger | is 'set expandtab; set softtabstop=4; set shifttab=4' enough for rockbox's code policy |
15:25:09 | Bger | i mean no tabs, 4 SW indenting |
15:25:15 | Bger | SW = whitespace |
15:25:21 | ashridah | hm, asking the wrong person, i'm not a rockbox developer |
15:25:24 | * | ashridah shuts up |
15:26:17 | Bger | ashridah: is this enough for vim not to write tab characters? |
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15:39:25 | ashridah | :set expandtab should do that |
15:42:38 | Bger | k |
15:43:19 | godzirra | toss it in your .vimrc and save yourself the trouble of doing it everytime. |
15:43:29 | godzirra | I also add this: |
15:43:33 | godzirra | map <C-I> <C-W>w<C-W>_ |
15:43:41 | godzirra | that lets you hit tab if you have two windows open with split |
15:43:47 | godzirra | to shift between the two. |
15:45:00 | Bger | hm, ok, 10x |
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15:50:51 | godzirra | 10x? |
15:52:32 | Bger | thank you for the advice |
15:53:31 | godzirra | ahh. sure |
15:53:39 | godzirra | the map was taught to me by a friend of mine and I love it. |
15:53:47 | godzirra | since you can have like 5 windows open and just hit tab to flip through them. |
15:54:07 | godzirra | Hrm. I need new music. |
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16:00:30 | west-acre | %<VOLUME: %pv%> will that display Volume: XX% ??? |
16:00:37 | west-acre | in the WPS |
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16:14:44 | west-acre | hey can someone here help with WPS... |
16:15:05 | west-acre | i'd like the genre to appear in brackets and if there is no genre nothing to appear atall... |
16:15:58 | west-acre | %s%?ig<· %ig|**>;%t10%s%?ig<· %ig|Path: %fp> |
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16:16:00 | west-acre | ? |
16:16:07 | west-acre | can it be limited to 4 chars? |
16:16:25 | west-acre | ie. (Elec) (Punk) ? |
16:19:25 | west-acre | godzirra ? |
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16:20:19 | west-acre | Bger |
16:20:23 | Bger | yes ? |
16:20:36 | west-acre | in WPS, i'd like the genre to appear in brackets and if there is no genre nothing to appear atall... |
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16:20:47 | west-acre | %s%?ig<· %ig|**>;%t10%s%?ig<· %ig|Path: %fp> ????????????????/ |
16:20:55 | godzirra | west-acre: what? |
16:21:04 | west-acre | in WPS, i'd like the genre to appear in brackets and if there is no genre nothing to appear atall... |
16:21:07 | west-acre | %s%?ig<· %ig|**>;%t10%s%?ig<· %ig|Path: %fp> ????????????????/ |
16:21:15 | Godeater | west-acre: use the conditional tag then |
16:21:23 | west-acre | :s |
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16:21:32 | west-acre | im trying to edit someone else's |
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16:22:16 | Godeater | what's that got to do with it ? |
16:22:37 | west-acre | nothing... |
16:22:44 | west-acre | well |
16:22:57 | west-acre | would the above work? |
16:23:01 | west-acre | %s%?ig<· %ig|**>;%t10%s%?ig<· %ig|Path: %fp> |
16:23:53 | Godeater | I don't think you want the %s before the %? |
16:24:00 | Godeater | I'm not sure what effect it would have |
16:24:10 | Godeater | I do something similar for playlist name : %?%pn<(%s%pn) > |
16:24:33 | Godeater | that displays the playlist name scrolling inside () if there is one, and doesn't display anything if you're not using a playlist |
16:24:47 | west-acre | nice, ill replace the pn then |
16:24:52 | west-acre | with ig |
16:25:07 | Godeater | if %ig is the genre name that should work |
16:25:16 | Godeater | I don't display the genre myself - don't really care :) |
16:25:29 | Godeater | I can work it out by listening, don't need it to be shown to me ! |
16:27:12 | west-acre | lol |
16:27:48 | west-acre | so is this rite :S −−-> |- %s%?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|[\root]>%?%ig<(%s%ig) > |
16:28:54 | Godeater | looks right yes - though you might want to lose the space in ") >" at the end and just finish it with )> since you're at the end of the line |
16:29:11 | Godeater | I include a space in mine so that what appears after the () if there is a playlist name is seperated properly |
16:29:23 | Godeater | but you won't need that since you're at the end of the line already |
16:31:13 | west-acre | kewl, ill try it |
16:34:50 | Bger | what's the purpose of BUTTON_QUICK #define ? |
16:39:09 | Bger | amiconn ? |
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17:23:32 | west-acre | hey, why should conditional tags be used? should i put something other that (%ig) ? |
17:24:31 | west-acre | Bger ? |
17:25:12 | Bger | west-acre i don't know |
17:25:20 | west-acre | 0k |
17:25:23 | west-acre | o well |
17:25:25 | west-acre | lol |
17:25:27 | west-acre | itll be fine |
17:25:53 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
17:25:53 | * | Bger corrected (nearly) all button #define errors in H300 build |
17:27:10 | west-acre | nicekw |
17:27:24 | Bger | yes |
17:31:30 | Bger | amiconn are you here ? |
17:31:35 | Bger | Slasheri ? |
17:35:08 | west-acre | Hey, the peak meter, am i right in thinking that it doesnt do n e thing yet? |
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17:41:48 | godzirra | west-acre: last I checked |
17:41:52 | godzirra | west-acre: which was friday |
17:41:56 | west-acre | kk |
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17:57:55 | Bger | amiconn, Bagder/B4gder: i just added a patch for buttons defines for iriver h3x0 build |
17:58:08 | Bger | in sf.net's patch tracker |
17:59:23 | Bger | having in mind that this is my first time using cvs & this tracker, please excuse me if there are problems ... |
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18:34:43 | Bger | ls |
18:34:47 | Bger | uf :) |
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18:44:54 | Yokalosh | how do you format a drive in linux... does anyone know? because if i do mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 it just says permission denied |
18:54:56 | Bger | Yokalosh |
18:55:06 | Bger | what gives u whoami |
18:55:22 | Bger | are you root ? |
18:56:58 | Yokalosh | pardon? |
18:57:27 | Yokalosh | it tells me i am knoppix, because i am using knoppix live cd |
18:57:32 | Bger | hm |
18:57:39 | Bger | that explains everything |
18:57:47 | Bger | try su |
18:58:04 | Bger | i don't know how to become root in knoppix |
18:58:24 | Yokalosh | oh ok |
18:58:25 | Yokalosh | :S |
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19:00:52 | Yokalosh | su worked |
19:01:21 | Bger | ;) |
19:01:25 | Yokalosh | :D |
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19:02:03 | ansivirus | anyone around? |
19:02:18 | Bger | it depends on who are you looking for |
19:02:22 | Bger | good nick btw |
19:02:32 | ansivirus | question about the FM Recorder / Recorder V2? |
19:02:42 | ansivirus | thanks been using this nick for over a decade LOL |
19:02:47 | Yokalosh | well i am root now, the only problem is when i try to reformat my jbr10 using mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 i get mkfs.vfat: Attempting to create a too large file system |
19:03:04 | Bger | Yokalosh |
19:03:16 | Yokalosh | yup? |
19:03:23 | ansivirus | How can you tell the difference between FM Recorder and Recorder V2? the pics on the website show them as the same :) |
19:04:41 | Yokalosh | bger? |
19:04:42 | Bger | Yokalosh try mkfs.vfat -F 32 |
19:04:48 | Yokalosh | ooo ok |
19:04:56 | Yokalosh | is that the full command? |
19:05:02 | Bger | no, of course |
19:05:07 | Bger | append /dev/sda1 |
19:05:11 | Yokalosh | cheers |
19:05:19 | Bger | ansivirus sec |
19:05:40 | Bger | ansivirus search wiki |
19:06:25 | Bger | ansivirus diff between FM recorder and recorder V2 ? |
19:06:50 | Yokalosh | it says bad number of fats |
19:07:00 | Bger | www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart |
19:07:03 | Bger | hm |
19:07:20 | Bger | Yokalosh w8 |
19:07:35 | Maxime`Mrn | [19:03] <ansivirus> How can you tell the difference between FM Recorder and Recorder V2? the pics on the website show them as the same :) < fm recorder has FM .. |
19:11:20 | ansivirus | Thanks alot.. there is nothing other than FM Tuner that is different :) |
19:11:53 | Maxime`Mrn | ansivirus: look at 19:07] <Bger> www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart |
19:11:54 | Maxime`Mrn | ^^ |
19:14:02 | ansivirus | Maxime`Mrn: yeah saw that that's why i said thanks :) |
19:14:09 | Maxime`Mrn | ^^ |
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19:16:09 | amiconn | ansivirus: They are looking identical apart from the printed text |
19:16:39 | amiconn | ...and some early v2s even have the FM radio mounted, only it isn't available in the archos firmware |
19:16:48 | amiconn | ...but in rockbox it is |
19:18:50 | Yokalosh | bger u still there? |
19:18:56 | Yokalosh | i'm waiting......... |
19:19:52 | Bger | yes |
19:20:43 | * | Plugh_ pounds on his compiler to make it go faster |
19:21:11 | Plugh_ | compiling text-to-speech for Solaris |
19:21:24 | Plugh_ | for audiobook heaven |
19:28:41 | bagawk | Hey Plugh_ |
19:29:30 | bagawk | I have seen a solaris box only once |
19:29:50 | bagawk | It was a little sun microsystems library search terminal |
19:30:05 | bill20r3 | Ihave 2 here being put to good use. |
19:30:10 | bill20r3 | holding up my lcd's |
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19:40:48 | Plugh_ | my ultra 5 is my main home server |
19:40:58 | Plugh_ | web, mail, etc |
19:41:25 | Plugh_ | it's great. Just sits in a closet and quietly manages all my information |
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19:42:13 | bagawk | I was going to make my Mac LC a web server, but my parents would not let me because they were scared that because it has internet I would be doing dirty things |
19:42:16 | Yokaloshi | Hey, just incase any of you lot care or helped me, i managed to fix my I/O error using knoppix! |
19:42:22 | Yokaloshi | Thanks for your help guys! |
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19:44:05 | webguest55 | dynamic playlists can only be viewed with Show Files set to 'All', this is a pain |
19:44:32 | bagawk | webguest55: why? |
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19:44:57 | webguest55 | it would be nice to be able to view dynamically created playlists with Show Files set to 'Music' |
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19:45:27 | webguest55 | less screen cluter, and less chance of deleting a system file |
19:45:36 | Plugh_ | my parents are still scared I'm doing dirty things on the internet |
19:45:44 | Plugh_ | I'm 34, and they're right |
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19:46:07 | bagawk | lol |
19:46:30 | webguest55 | plus the dynamically created playlists are only visible in the root directory, |
19:47:19 | webguest55 | it would be nice to view the dynamically created playlists in 'Playlist options' |
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19:50:43 | bagawk | webguest55: that would be simple change |
19:51:04 | webguest55 | it would be more user friendly |
19:53:58 | webguest55 | the root directory will become messy with several dyamic playlists created, much nicer in their own menu under 'Playlist options' |
19:54:25 | Moos | indeed |
19:54:51 | webguest55 | ^if show files is set to 'All', but that is the only way that dynamic lists can be seen |
19:54:58 | bagawk | webguest55: I would be willing to make a build to do just that... |
19:55:11 | HCl | ugh. |
19:55:16 | webguest55 | thank you kind sir |
19:57:16 | bagawk | webguest55: do you use a archos recorder? |
19:57:25 | webguest55 | no only H140 |
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20:08:37 | bagawk | I am having cygwin troubles :( |
20:08:47 | Maxime`Mrn | it's cygwin.. :p |
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20:26:16 | [-AIR-] | hey, is it possible to start a .wps at startup of iriver? |
20:26:38 | Coldtoast | yep |
20:26:45 | Coldtoast | needs to be in .rockbox tho |
20:26:49 | [-AIR-] | wiked h0ow? |
20:27:15 | Coldtoast | make sure the .wps is in .rockbox |
20:27:44 | bagawk | and named default |
20:27:49 | [-AIR-] | rite, cheers |
20:27:50 | Coldtoast | no |
20:27:54 | Coldtoast | it cam be named anything |
20:27:58 | bagawk | ? |
20:28:02 | [-AIR-] | damn, i need a pc for dat, u cnt move files can you? |
20:28:03 | bagawk | ahh yes |
20:28:11 | bagawk | I forget rockbox remembers it |
20:28:14 | amiconn | yeps, it just needs to be in /,rockbox, and played once |
20:28:15 | Coldtoast | mine's named "edan.wps" for example |
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20:28:52 | [-AIR-] | hey, any chance i could put my custom wps on rockbox.org? |
20:29:29 | ansivirus | what is the .wps? |
20:29:47 | ansivirus | i was beginning to think some wordperfect script or something but bah.. :) |
20:29:59 | Coldtoast | While Playing Screen skin |
20:30:05 | Coldtoast | or theme |
20:30:10 | ansivirus | sorry I've only had Archos JBR FM for 2 days and using rockbox for about 2 hours :) |
20:30:15 | Coldtoast | however you like to think of it |
20:30:24 | ansivirus | right on |
20:30:37 | Coldtoast | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
20:30:58 | ansivirus | got my JBR FM for 50 dollars on Ebay cause it wouldn't stay powered on and F3 button was broke.. |
20:31:34 | amiconn | webguest55: Playlists should be shown when 'show files' is set to 'music', and there is also a setting 'playlists' |
20:31:39 | ansivirus | since then with some scotch tape (fixed power issue) and super glue (fix button) I've got a fully (i hope) functioning jbrfm |
20:31:45 | amiconn | They should also show up in any dir, not just the |
20:31:48 | amiconn | ...root |
20:32:09 | amiconn | That's the way rockbox worked for years on archos |
20:32:22 | amiconn | If it doesn't do that on iriver, it's a bug |
20:32:23 | bagawk | ansivirus clever nick :) |
20:32:33 | amiconn | I can't check atm though |
20:33:00 | ansivirus | thx bagawk |
20:39:23 | ansivirus | BBIAB heading home from work |
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20:42:31 | belgarath | does using the cross fade use up a huge amount more cpu? |
20:42:54 | belgarath | also, have most of the errors associated with it been fixed> |
20:49:46 | bagawk | Cygwin is screwy |
20:49:52 | bagawk | time to go to linux |
20:49:58 | bagawk | First lunch |
20:50:01 | bagawk | bye |
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21:12:04 | webguest55 | amiconn: the dynamic playlist only shows up in the root directory with Show Files set to 'All' |
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21:34:24 | Slasheri | belgarath: crossfade should not use much more cpu |
21:35:01 | Slasheri | i think it will affect cpu performance very little in fact |
21:35:51 | Slasheri | belgarath: however, there could be still some errors associated with crossfade which may cause a crash |
21:36:00 | Slasheri | but i haven't been able to verify that |
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21:51:44 | Lear | Hm... yield() on the Win32 simulator doesn't work too well. The thread I call it in seems to sleep forever. Sure doesn't wake up in a timely manner at least. |
21:52:12 | Lear | I don't like the code in GUIMessageLoop, but I'm not sure what is better really... |
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22:00:57 | ac | hi all... someone of the rockbox masters here? |
22:01:39 | Lear | some have joined, wonder if they "listen" though. :) |
22:02:50 | ac | hmmm... i will try it later the night |
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22:11:32 | godzirra | They all listen. Some just take a while to respond. :) |
22:12:04 | [-AIR-] | hey, problem. just |
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22:12:47 | preglow | Slasheri: the id3->frequency field depends blindly on the id3tag, it seems (surprise) |
22:12:50 | [-AIR-] | hey, problem. since i put my new wps in the .rockbox folder the plugins freeze my iriver, even though no music is playing. maybe if someone could check if my wps is correct? |
22:12:58 | preglow | if a file is badly tagged, it will play at a faulty speed |
22:13:21 | preglow | we should use the sample rate entry in the mp3 frame too determine sample rate |
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22:13:35 | preglow | too/to/bleh |
22:13:39 | godzirra | hehe |
22:15:25 | Lear | air: shouldn't be related, but then again, when I start a plugin I get a crash (using build from today). I thought that was be fixed... |
22:16:04 | [-AIR-] | rite. maybe it's just todays build, that's ok. itll be fixed i hope :D |
22:17:09 | Lear | plugins doesn't work at all for me either... |
22:17:10 | Coldtoast | I get no lockups with the plugs using my wps |
22:17:45 | preglow | but i gotta og |
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22:17:51 | Coldtoast | oh! sorry |
22:17:53 | Coldtoast | I do |
22:18:00 | Coldtoast | hadn't tried with this new build |
22:18:37 | Coldtoast | bummer |
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22:23:52 | godzirra | I havent updated since yesterday, but plugins work fine for me. |
22:23:59 | godzirra | of course, crossfade worked fine for me yesterday too |
22:24:03 | godzirra | when it didnt for everyone |
22:24:09 | amiconn | Coldtoast: That's probably something caused by Bagder's commit centralising codec and plugin buffer definition |
22:24:13 | amiconn | ...some bug... |
22:24:36 | amiconn | Do plugins work if nothing is playing? |
22:24:47 | amiconn | (didn't check myself yet) |
22:24:57 | Lear | not for me. |
22:25:27 | Lear | Hm.. I did manage to start the battery test plugin yesterday, I think it was... |
22:26:04 | Coldtoast | nope |
22:26:10 | Coldtoast | don't run with nothing playing |
22:26:16 | amiconn | Hmm, badness |
22:26:53 | Coldtoast | the error is |
22:27:13 | Coldtoast | I0B: Line-F at 32F00610 |
22:27:34 | Lear | I got IllInstr something... |
22:27:52 | Coldtoast | just tried Bounce and Cube |
22:27:53 | Moos | here too :( with last build |
22:28:32 | amiconn | I'd expect all sorts of illegal instructions |
22:28:42 | amiconn | Line-F is just a special variant |
22:28:54 | Moos | apear all plugins :( |
22:29:01 | amiconn | I have a suspicion... but first I'll eat something |
22:29:05 | Coldtoast | I found 64kbps 44KHz mono MP3s that only output the left chan, btw |
22:29:16 | Coldtoast | but output L+R with the iriver firmware as well as Winamp |
22:29:49 | Moos | amiconn: have a good lunch |
22:30:05 | amiconn | Nah, already 22:30 |
22:30:14 | Moos | :) |
22:30:15 | Lear | amiconn: yeah, instruction word starting with hex F, IIRC. :) |
22:30:16 | Coldtoast | it's 06:30 here |
22:30:26 | amiconn | ...and I just came home from work :(( |
22:30:40 | Moos | :( |
22:30:41 | godzirra | west-acre: why are you randomly sending me crap? :p |
22:30:47 | Coldtoast | I finished work 3hrs ago :) |
22:30:59 | west-acre | im not. |
22:31:18 | west-acre | o i sent you the .wps i made about 4 hours ago coz u helped me make it :S |
22:31:42 | godzirra | lol |
22:31:44 | godzirra | ok? |
22:31:50 | godzirra | Glad I could help I guess? |
22:31:51 | godzirra | lol |
22:31:57 | Coldtoast | how's my wps looking godzirra? |
22:32:07 | godzirra | Coldtoast: I love yours, but I switched ot JonnyDr's. |
22:32:09 | Coldtoast | does it load all gfx in the right places? |
22:32:10 | godzirra | I love the "next song" |
22:32:29 | godzirra | Although I hate his font. |
22:32:37 | Coldtoast | mine has next song :) |
22:32:46 | Coldtoast | not a lot else tho. I chose to go simple |
22:33:00 | godzirra | Oh.. why did I not know that. |
22:33:37 | Coldtoast | heh. how could you miss it? |
22:33:58 | godzirra | I havent copied it over recently ;) |
22:33:59 | Coldtoast | http://www.3dluvr.com/edan/tmp/WPS.jpg |
22:34:09 | Coldtoast | "NEXT TRACK" heh |
22:34:09 | godzirra | do your images load correctly in the subdirectories now? |
22:34:16 | Coldtoast | yep |
22:34:19 | godzirra | neat! what was it? |
22:34:27 | Coldtoast | filename was too long |
22:34:57 | Coldtoast | well, image name |
22:34:59 | Lear | Ah, forgot about WPS graphics. Anyone who has good, small images for the WPS (I'm thinking small images similar to the iRiver firmware)? |
22:35:08 | godzirra | Coldtoast: ahh ok. |
22:35:10 | Coldtoast | wiki says 31chars but for some reason 23 is too many |
22:35:20 | godzirra | Coldtoast: yours isnt loading. |
22:35:27 | godzirra | your next artist I mean |
22:35:31 | godzirra | it just says nextg artist. |
22:35:53 | Coldtoast | it should say "Unknown artist" til it gets the info |
22:36:32 | Coldtoast | only happens on the first track til it gets near the end and has th einfo. When it starts the next track, all works |
22:36:54 | Coldtoast | anyway. the one you're using now has loads of info |
22:37:47 | Coldtoast | Lear: which gfx from the iriver firmware? |
22:38:01 | Coldtoast | the only stuff on their WPS are the icons |
22:38:51 | Lear | coldtoast: on their "wps" there are images/icons for artist and stuff; something like that... |
22:38:56 | Coldtoast | is you set up a wps to have the little icons in rockbox, you can't use %s cos when the info scrolls, it destroys the gfx |
22:39:09 | Coldtoast | only way you can do it is to not use %s |
22:39:28 | Lear | ah, that does make it less interesting... |
22:39:33 | Coldtoast | well |
22:40:00 | Coldtoast | I've asked and they're saying it'd be dead easy to give us access to the rockbox icons for wps |
22:40:14 | Coldtoast | you know the little musical note icons and stuff in the browser? |
22:40:24 | Lear | you mean like play/stop? |
22:40:50 | amiconn | My suspicion was right - the memory areas overlap. |
22:40:54 | Coldtoast | I guess. But I was thinking more, for track names for eg, having the little musical note icon in front of the track name |
22:40:57 | amiconn | Fixing it should be easy |
22:41:07 | amiconn | me fix. |
22:41:16 | Lear | Btw, I was thinking about loadable gfx a while ago, but then for the Roxbox icons; I'd like somewhat larger ones... |
22:41:19 | Coldtoast | yay for amiconn. heh |
22:41:20 | Moos | please do |
22:41:45 | Lear | coldtoast: that's the kind if icons I was interested in (if %s still worked...) |
22:41:50 | Moos | the famous bugs hunter :)) |
22:42:13 | Coldtoast | Lear: one thing Linus (I think it was) was talkign about was margins |
22:42:33 | Coldtoast | so you could have the text scroll within set margins. THAT I'd likve a lot! |
22:42:48 | Lear | Coldtoast: Yeah, that would do the trick. |
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22:53:29 | ansivirus | where would i find the option in Rockbox 2.4 for Deep Discharge and Trickle Charge? |
22:53:48 | ansivirus | I'm having battery issues with my JBR FM and I read about those options but can't find them |
22:53:51 | godzirra | Coldtoast: now it loads.. you're right. I need to put it on seperate lines though |
22:53:54 | godzirra | the artist and song I mean |
22:54:10 | Coldtoast | that's easy |
22:54:14 | godzirra | Yeah, I figured. :) |
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22:55:02 | ansivirus | and also are .wps files dependant on which archos jukebox or whatever you have? |
22:55:06 | ansivirus | or are they universal? |
22:56:28 | amiconn | Hmm, badness. There's a potential clash if both plugins and codecs try to use IRAM |
22:56:53 | Moos | :( |
22:56:55 | Coldtoast | godzirra: www.3dluvr.com/edan/tmp/edan/zip |
22:57:03 | Coldtoast | unzip that into .rockbox |
22:57:28 | godzirra | heh |
22:57:31 | godzirra | you rule |
22:58:53 | Coldtoast | heh |
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23:01:25 | Coldtoast | godzirra: err.. change the 4th line from the bottom in the wps from "%?It< %It| %Fn>" to "%s%?It< %It| %Fn>" tho |
23:01:28 | ansivirus | anyone? |
23:03:15 | amiconn | The IRAM clash is the reason why rockboy crashes the iriver when trying to start it while music is playing... |
23:03:50 | Bagder | it could be fixed in the LDS file(s) I guess |
23:03:55 | Coldtoast | how hard of a fix is it? sound slike some thinkign time would be needed |
23:03:57 | godzirra | lol |
23:04:37 | amiconn | Bagder: Yes it could, but then we would have to decide about the iram chunk distribution for (codecs, plugins, core) |
23:04:47 | Bagder | yes |
23:04:55 | amiconn | Currently it is 64 K for core and 32 K for plugins/codecs |
23:05:07 | amiconn | I checked; codecs almost fully use it up |
23:05:13 | Bagder | does the core use a lot? |
23:05:27 | amiconn | mpa.codec: 0x7e58 |
23:05:39 | amiconn | rockboy uses 0x5840 |
23:05:40 | godzirra | Coldtoast: is that it? |
23:05:48 | amiconn | The core uses 0x4964 |
23:06:05 | Coldtoast | godzirra: yeah. Just so the track name will scroll if it's long |
23:06:07 | amiconn | We could split evenly, 32K - 32K - 32K |
23:06:12 | godzirra | hrm. that didnt like that.. |
23:06:16 | amiconn | But imho that's not what we want |
23:06:17 | godzirra | oh.. cause I forgot a % |
23:06:39 | amiconn | Rockboy is the only plugin using IRAM, and it has to stop the music anyway |
23:06:46 | Coldtoast | heh. I think I'll keep it split like this myself |
23:06:53 | Bagder | amiconn: true |
23:07:08 | Bagder | and it could easily stop the music first, then use iram |
23:07:10 | amiconn | So it's just necessary to put the audiobuffer claim before the iram copy |
23:07:19 | Bagder | hehe |
23:07:34 | amiconn | I'll fix the DRAM mapping first |
23:07:54 | amiconn | (that you introduced) ;) |
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23:08:44 | Bagder | what did I miss? |
23:09:09 | amiconn | Codecs and plugins both start at the same address now |
23:09:24 | amiconn | Did you actually test? |
23:10:03 | Bagder | not the plugins no |
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23:12:06 | webguest86 | rockboy doesnt work on the latest build. is that a known bug? |
23:13:25 | Bagder | I see the problem |
23:15:00 | Bagder | amiconn: shall I fix it, or are you on to it? |
23:15:08 | Bagder | oh |
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23:15:13 | Bagder | ;-) |
23:15:15 | amiconn | Bagder: I committed a fix |
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23:16:24 | amiconn | (for the clashing address, not for the iram issue) |
23:16:24 | HCl | webguest86: it doesn't? |
23:16:43 | Bagder | get the bleeding edge and it does |
23:16:45 | amiconn | Bagder: I won't fix the iram issue now, need to work on gfx |
23:16:57 | Bagder | I'll check it out |
23:18:08 | Bagder | fix coming |
23:25:51 | godzirra | Coldtoast: I modded yours. this is pretty neat. |
23:26:05 | godzirra | nothing big.. just kinda combined yours and jonnydr's |
23:28:03 | godzirra | I'm out .. see ya'll later. |
23:36:45 | Coldtoast | ok |
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23:53:40 | Coldtoast | plugs now work. cool |