| 00:00:32 | stripwax_ | alxcm - did it work? |
| 00:02:48 | alxcm | stripwax_: trying to find fwupdate now |
| 00:02:59 | alxcm | plus i need to find official firmware, since i don't have that lying around |
| 00:03:04 | alxcm | it should be in the latest build, no? |
| 00:03:42 | stripwax_ | hmm? official firmware comes from iriver's website. fwupdate? you mean fwpatcher? |
| 00:03:52 | alxcm | whoops, ya |
| 00:04:01 | alxcm | can you give me the links? |
| 00:04:29 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot#Download_and_extract_the_firmwar |
| 00:04:30 | stripwax_ | Well I can give you this line :=p http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 00:04:38 | alxcm | that helps |
| 00:04:40 | | Join amiconn [0] (~jens@p54BD7077.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:04:52 | alxcm | i just got the 120 firmware from iriver |
| 00:05:28 | | Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-123-46.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 00:05:48 | alxcm | yay, i don't have wine installed |
| 00:05:56 | * | alxcm compiles |
| 00:06:25 | alxcm | oh shoot |
| 00:06:29 | alxcm | this is gonna take forever |
| 00:06:35 | alxcm | *sigh* rebooting to windows... |
| 00:06:40 | amiconn | stripwax_: Just leave the win32 sim by closing the window, like any windows app |
| 00:06:42 | alxcm | brb |
| 00:06:43 | | Quit alxcm ("leaving") |
| 00:06:47 | amiconn | Alt+F4 should work too |
| 00:07:04 | stripwax_ | alxcm - if you trust me, I can send you the patched firmware. i'm using 1.65 EU |
| 00:07:18 | | Quit webguest00 ("CGI:IRC") |
| 00:07:36 | amiconn | The soft simulator 'powerdown' from rockbox does only work for the platforms which don't have software poweroff |
| 00:07:45 | amiconn | ...i.e. player and recorder v1 |
| 00:08:13 | stripwax_ | amiconn - so no way to test the save-bookmark-on-poweroff option on simulator (for example)? why no soft off in the simulator |
| 00:08:29 | ]RowaN[ | is there a way i can do a screengrab from my iriver to pc? |
| 00:08:49 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ you mean from the simulator, or from the real iriver? do you own a flatbed scanner? :-p |
| 00:09:04 | ]RowaN[ | well that certainly answers my question |
| 00:09:05 | amiconn | stripwax_: Simply because no one nade it work yet |
| 00:09:12 | amiconn | I don't think it's important |
| 00:09:14 | stripwax_ | amiconn ah gotcha. thx |
| 00:09:22 | amiconn | It's an UI simulator, not an exact emulator |
| 00:09:26 | stripwax_ | i know. |
| 00:09:44 | Bagder | ]RowaN[: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ScreenDump |
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| 00:10:15 | amiconn | Bagder: Ah, good thing I made it work for greyscale ;) |
| 00:10:16 | alxcm | anywayness |
| 00:10:18 | stripwax_ | Bagder - ooh, didn't know about that! |
| 00:10:20 | alxcm | back in windows |
| 00:10:26 | Bagder | amiconn: indeed! |
| 00:11:44 | alxcm | Firmware patched successfully |
| 00:11:45 | alxcm | :-D |
| 00:12:46 | stripwax_ | nice |
| 00:13:08 | alxcm | yup |
| 00:13:19 | alxcm | daily build extracted, now copying all over to ihp120 |
| 00:13:57 | * | Bagder does the drumroll |
| 00:14:00 | alxcm | haha this is hilarious |
| 00:14:07 | ]RowaN[ | Bagder: that page doesnt say where the .bmp is saved to |
| 00:14:08 | alxcm | windows doesn't recognize the iriver |
| 00:14:14 | ]RowaN[ | ah the root |
| 00:14:19 | Bagder | feel free to update |
| 00:14:24 | alxcm | lolololol |
| 00:14:28 | alxcm | ok, linux time |
| 00:14:46 | * | alxcm hits the power button to avoid winserver2k3 crap about logs |
| 00:15:11 | stripwax_ | alxcm - logs? it's probably just moaning that you keep hitting the power button :-) |
| 00:15:54 | * | Bagder hits the bed |
| 00:16:06 | alxcm | lol |
| 00:16:20 | alxcm | no, windows server 2k3 demands you log reasons for shutdown/startup |
| 00:16:28 | alxcm | which is kind of stupid, especially on my laptop |
| 00:16:50 | stripwax_ | alxcm - turn that off. http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Disable-Shutdown-Event-Tracker-Windows-2003.html |
| 00:16:58 | alxcm | oh, cool |
| 00:17:07 | alxcm | i don't use windows enough to care, tho |
| 00:17:14 | amiconn | Slasheri: Playback still stops prematurely on the last track |
| 00:17:23 | stripwax_ | you don't use windows often but you have server 2003?!? |
| 00:17:45 | alxcm | yeah |
| 00:17:48 | stripwax_ | hmmm |
| 00:17:55 | alxcm | i get it free from school |
| 00:18:00 | alxcm | so what the heck |
| 00:18:02 | amiconn | Server 2003 on a laptop doesn't make much sense to me either |
| 00:18:17 | ]RowaN[ | www.copymaster.co.uk/rowans_wps.gif hehe look at my crappy wps =] |
| 00:18:21 | alxcm | well, it IS more stable then all others |
| 00:18:23 | stripwax_ | me either, XP Tablet Editon way nicer :-) |
| 00:18:37 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - hehe, nice |
| 00:18:41 | alxcm | and my laptop is easily my fastest comp |
| 00:18:47 | amiconn | alxcm: I can't see a difference in stability against XP pro |
| 00:18:48 | | Quit elinenbe_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
| 00:18:49 | alxcm | i use it for fansubbing and stuff |
| 00:18:51 | ]RowaN[ | are greyscale wps images supported yet? |
| 00:19:50 | alxcm | NOW it's drumroll time |
| 00:19:54 | stripwax_ | are greyscale fonts supported yet? :-) |
| 00:19:59 | * | alxcm unplugs iriver |
| 00:20:36 | alxcm | flashing... |
| 00:21:03 | amiconn | stripwax_: No, there are no routines for that |
| 00:21:08 | alxcm | rebooting... |
| 00:21:12 | stripwax_ | amiconn ok |
| 00:21:33 | amiconn | You can use the fonts with any foreground and background shade though |
| 00:21:35 | alxcm | YAY FOR ROCKBOX |
| 00:21:43 | stripwax_ | amiconn yes |
| 00:22:08 | stripwax_ | alxcm - working out alright then? |
| 00:22:15 | alxcm | beautifully |
| 00:22:25 | alxcm | incidentally, how do i boot back to iriver firmware? |
| 00:22:36 | stripwax_ | hold down REC while turning on |
| 00:22:41 | alxcm | cool |
| 00:22:45 | * | alxcm goes to test |
| 00:22:57 | stripwax_ | alxcm - after a while you'll probably find you no longer need to :-) |
| 00:23:10 | | Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") |
| 00:23:19 | alxcm | after a while? i'm never going back there again |
| 00:23:37 | stripwax_ | hehe |
| 00:23:55 | alxcm | wow this is beautiful |
| 00:23:58 | alxcm | thx for your help |
| 00:24:02 | * | alxcm goes to enjoy |
| 00:24:55 | ]RowaN[ | i still didnt manage to find a font editor for rockbox fonts, that wasnt only available as experimental proof of concept source code which you need to isntall 20 differernt programs just to get it working |
| 00:25:24 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ hmm.. that sucks |
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| 00:29:42 | * | stripwax_ wonders how hard a font editor could really be.. |
| 00:31:54 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ can you download FontForge binaries for your platform? |
| 00:33:03 | amiconn | Extended bmp2rb committed :) |
| 00:33:37 | stripwax_ | amiconn - extended how? |
| 00:33:48 | stripwax_ | greyscale? |
| 00:34:13 | amiconn | Guess how I created the 4-grey rockbox logo? |
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| 00:34:25 | ]RowaN[ | hmm viewer for windows.. http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/bdfviewer.exe |
| 00:34:31 | * | ]RowaN[ googles FontForge |
| 00:34:35 | amiconn | It just needed some more testing; that's why I didn't commit earlier |
| 00:34:57 | muesli- | re |
| 00:35:29 | stripwax_ | amiconn - i just assumed you used a hexeditor :-) |
| 00:35:48 | amiconn | rofl |
| 00:36:06 | ]RowaN[ | fontforge wants me to install Cygwin.. which provides a linux like environment? and ive never (had to) use linux in my life |
| 00:36:33 | amiconn | Fontforge needs cygwin on windows, yes |
| 00:36:37 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - ahhh.. cygwin's good but, if you don't already have it/use it, it's kinda overkill for just running a font editor. |
| 00:36:42 | | Quit Harpy (Connection timed out) |
| 00:36:51 | ]RowaN[ | nothings easy these days is it |
| 00:37:06 | amiconn | I use the predecessor pfaedit, works nicely |
| 00:37:08 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - BDF is kinda a unix font format anyway, so thems the breaks. |
| 00:37:21 | ]RowaN[ | in my day we had "standalone" executables |
| 00:37:23 | amiconn | (also on cygwin) |
| 00:38:13 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - but fontforge is not written for Windows, so ... |
| 00:40:46 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - you know, there's a gap in the market for a Windows executable that edits unix-style BDF fonts ... |
| 00:40:48 | | Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 00:41:58 | ze | er uh, you shouldn't need more than a runtime lib or two to run a cygwin-compiled binary on windows generally |
| 00:42:25 | ze | oh wait i guess if it's something for X then that makes it a big hassle |
| 00:42:27 | amiconn | cygwin1.dll |
| 00:42:44 | ze | needing the X server and all |
| 00:42:52 | amiconn | Ah yes, the x11 server... |
| 00:46:31 | stripwax_ | .. download fontforge for cygwin |
| 00:46:38 | stripwax_ | ^downloading .... |
| 00:47:33 | ]RowaN[ | if u get it working tell me how please =] |
| 00:50:51 | Cassandra | Good. Picked up a cheap player on eBay for 25 quid. |
| 00:51:02 | Cassandra | Now all I need is an Ondio and my collection is complete. ;) |
| 00:51:17 | amiconn | Really |
| 00:51:18 | amiconn | ? |
| 00:51:30 | Cassandra | No charger. |
| 00:51:42 | Cassandra | I have universal chargers. This is not a problem. |
| 00:51:43 | amiconn | You will need 2 Ondios to have a complete collection, an SP and an FM ;) |
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| 00:52:09 | Cassandra | Well techinically I'd need a Recorder v1 too, but there's such a thing as going too far. |
| 00:52:25 | Cassandra | I'm half of the opinion that spending 25 quid to get a player is going too far. |
| 00:52:42 | amiconn | I paid more... |
| 00:52:48 | alxcm | awesome job |
| 00:52:55 | alxcm | :-D |
| 00:53:29 | alxcm | have a few issues with ogg playback (some really bad distortion) and apparently deleting a directory doesn't work, but other than that it looks great |
| 00:54:34 | webguest66 | alxcm: when it tells you to press play press the joystick (while deleting) |
| 00:54:44 | alxcm | oh, ok |
| 00:54:49 | alxcm | *tries* |
| 00:55:45 | alxcm | yay |
| 00:55:55 | alxcm | any ideas on the ogg decoding? |
| 00:56:09 | alxcm | it seems to be only encountered with my vorbis-tools for linux encodes |
| 00:56:14 | webguest66 | works fine for me |
| 00:56:17 | alxcm | my older windows encodes are fine |
| 00:56:23 | alxcm | hmm |
| 00:56:26 | * | alxcm tries something |
| 00:56:34 | stripwax_ | alxcm - interesting. do they play ok in linux? ;-) |
| 00:56:54 | alxcm | not only in linux, but in the orig. iriver firmware as well |
| 00:57:15 | stripwax_ | hm, wanna post/email/something those badly-decoding chaps to a willing rockbox dev? |
| 00:57:31 | alxcm | certainl |
| 00:57:34 | alxcm | *certainly |
| 00:57:44 | alxcm | the only thing i can think of is they are rather large |
| 00:57:51 | alxcm | ~20 mins |
| 00:57:53 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - works a charm first time. looks pretty shitting complicated though.. was just expecting a pixel-based simple app |
| 00:57:55 | alxcm | on some of them |
| 00:57:59 | stripwax_ | alxcm eeks. |
| 00:58:29 | * | alxcm tries to oggenc a different file |
| 00:58:40 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - but it could just be that I have no idea what I'm doing |
| 00:58:48 | stripwax_ | alxcm - what oggenc settings |
| 00:58:57 | alxcm | stripwax_: default |
| 00:59:03 | alxcm | which is q3 |
| 00:59:04 | Cassandra | I seem to be spending money on fripperies today. |
| 00:59:17 | Cassandra | I also spent 3 quid on a CD of George Formby songs. |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:12 | alxcm | hmm, test file worked fine |
| 01:00:17 | alxcm | lemme reencode one of the bad boys |
| 01:00:58 | ]RowaN[ | strippy: are you able to open a font, edit, save? |
| 01:01:41 | | Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC") |
| 01:03:10 | alxcm | yay for 50% cpu usage |
| 01:03:24 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - gotta convert from rb to bdf first .. hang on a sec.. |
| 01:03:50 | stripwax_ | oh wait.. clearly, i dont'... |
| 01:05:08 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - yep, load bdf, edit, save, all ok. nice n easy |
| 01:05:25 | * | stripwax_ thinks it's time to get arty |
| 01:06:02 | ]RowaN[ | ooh rite what do i need to install then? |
| 01:07:14 | ]RowaN[ | .rb? i only see .bdf and .fnt on www.rockbox.org/fonts |
| 01:07:41 | stripwax_ | run http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe, pick a directory (e.g. c:\cygwin\cygwin) and a packages directory (e.g. c:\cygwin\packages), and install the following: |
| 01:08:16 | alxcm | stripwax_: just reencoded the file |
| 01:08:23 | alxcm | seems like its a problem with longer ogg files |
| 01:08:29 | alxcm | my short ogg encode = fine |
| 01:09:51 | Cassandra | Oh, has anybody else had a problem with resume appearing to work, but the counter going up slowly and no sound? |
| 01:10:01 | Cassandra | I had to turn the unit off and on again to get sound back. |
| 01:10:20 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - you probably can get away with just installing the default X11 stuff (whatever it suggests), and also the libiconv from LIBS. |
| 01:10:44 | alxcm | cygwin sucks :-( |
| 01:11:00 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ if you change view to 'partial' it'll tell you what it's going to install. If you don't want a component, click under 'new' to cycle it to Skip |
| 01:11:09 | Cassandra | Here's a quarter, kid. Get yourself a real operating system. |
| 01:11:13 | alxcm | yeah. |
| 01:11:15 | alxcm | :-D |
| 01:11:17 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - .rb? right, like I said, "oh wait, clearly I don't" |
| 01:11:19 | alxcm | Linux daemon 2.6.12-rc4-mm1-blitz #2 Sat May 28 10:44:06 EST 2005 i686 Pentium III (Katmai) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 01:11:43 | alxcm | this is a reiser4 box, too |
| 01:11:55 | alxcm | NPTL enabled, compiled from scratch |
| 01:12:04 | alxcm | (Gentoo) |
| 01:12:16 | alxcm | anyway, martial arts classtime |
| 01:12:17 | alxcm | ttyal |
| 01:12:23 | * | stripwax_ doesn't really see the point in compiling Gentoo entirely from scratch. it's not like P3s are rare |
| 01:12:31 | amiconn | True H140 pic added to the devicechart, showing the rockbox logo :) |
| 01:13:06 | alxcm | stripwax_: i did it to get NPTL |
| 01:13:26 | stripwax_ | alxcm- you have to recompile everything from scratch to get that?! wow |
| 01:13:29 | Cassandra | I think it's some sort of BSDish "my OS is harder than yours" attitude. ;) |
| 01:13:35 | stripwax_ | ;-) |
| 01:13:45 | alxcm | stripwax_: not to get the libraries, but to make everything use them ,yes |
| 01:14:04 | alxcm | and Cassandra, i don't set USE="hardened" because i don't see the point |
| 01:14:06 | alxcm | ;) |
| 01:14:12 | stripwax_ | heh |
| 01:14:16 | Cassandra | What's that do then? |
| 01:14:27 | alxcm | compile hardened sources |
| 01:14:32 | alxcm | slower but more secure |
| 01:14:43 | Cassandra | I let those nice fellows at Ubuntu compile my OS for me. |
| 01:14:53 | alxcm | Ubuntu rocks, ya |
| 01:15:25 | alxcm | but for performance on a p3 550mhz, it doesn't get much better than daemon here |
| 01:15:25 | ]RowaN[ | ok im on partial view |
| 01:15:36 | stripwax_ | amiconn - were your changes to bmp2rb based on ihpbmp or entirely from scratch |
| 01:15:52 | amiconn | From scratch |
| 01:16:07 | amiconn | I don't even know ihpbmp |
| 01:16:31 | stripwax_ | amiconn - that's the app i wrote that decodes the iriver firmware and modifies the images . |
| 01:16:38 | amiconn | ah |
| 01:16:41 | stripwax_ | (way back about this time last year..) |
| 01:16:50 | amiconn | Well, I'd have no use for that |
| 01:17:00 | Cassandra | Except for Rockbox. I hand roll my own from scratch from CVS. But only cause it's quicker than downloading the snapshot. ;) |
| 01:17:01 | amiconn | I won't use the iriver firmware |
| 01:17:16 | amiconn | Cassandra: Huh? |
| 01:17:21 | stripwax_ | amiconn - well, the bmp -> iriver format conversion code might have come in handy (assuming the format for 4-color rb is the same though) |
| 01:17:40 | amiconn | rockbox 4-grey uses the internal lcd format. |
| 01:17:43 | Cassandra | Well, maybe it isn't. But it "feels" faster. |
| 01:17:45 | amiconn | Dunno what iriver uses |
| 01:17:59 | stripwax_ | amiconn same as iriver (pretty sure anyway) |
| 01:19:04 | stripwax_ | anyway whatever, it's gathering dust here. http://www.beermex.com/@spc/iriver/ihpbmp.src.zip |
| 01:19:41 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - installed cygwin yet? |
| 01:20:48 | ]RowaN[ | err not yet trying to decipher the options |
| 01:22:53 | stripwax_ | amiconn - are there any headers for the rb bitmap format? or does the code require that any given bitmap is in the required format (e.g. can't just mix&match 1-bit and 2-bit bitmaps and expect things to work) |
| 01:23:14 | amiconn | No headers, just the raw data |
| 01:23:20 | stripwax_ | hmm |
| 01:23:58 | amiconn | 4-grey and monochrome bitmaps are drawn by different functions |
| 01:24:31 | stripwax_ | so adding e.g. 4-color bitmap support to wps would mean everyone using that would need to rebuild all their bmps as 4-color? does bmp2rb support rb->rb too? |
| 01:25:06 | stripwax_ | amiconn - wow, really? not the samefunction with a different arg passed in (y-pixels-per-byte=4 vs 8)? |
| 01:25:19 | amiconn | bmp2rb is for generating bitmaps to include in the source code, i.e. char array source |
| 01:25:31 | stripwax_ | amiconn ahok |
| 01:26:18 | amiconn | The bmp loader is entirely separate. It does the same job as bmp2rb, but with different optimisation constarints |
| 01:26:28 | ]RowaN[ | strippy: what can i get rid of on partial view? i just went to install it all and its godknowshowbig???Mb |
| 01:27:12 | amiconn | stripwax_: There are several reasons why the functions are separate |
| 01:27:23 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - on Partial, i'd expect to see just a couple of cygwin things, some libs, and the x11 stuff. what have you got? |
| 01:27:53 | stripwax_ | amiconn - i'm sure there are! but i'm surprised they don't do effectively the same thing, just with different parameters |
| 01:28:10 | amiconn | No they don't |
| 01:29:15 | amiconn | There are different ways to optimise, and also different methods to draw monochrome bitmaps on a 4-grey vs. drawing a native bitmap |
| 01:29:37 | | Quit markun () |
| 01:30:19 | amiconn | Monochrome bitmaps are drawn using selectable shades for foreground and background, drawing foreground, background, or both, or draw in xor mode |
| 01:31:05 | ]RowaN[ | hmm too much stuff to list |
| 01:31:27 | stripwax_ | amiconn - I thought there was still a simple blt function? or is that greyscale only now? |
| 01:31:58 | amiconn | The blit function can only use native lcd format, so greyscale only |
| 01:32:20 | Cassandra | ami: Is there a lighter grey than the one you use in the background of splash()? I think the current one is too dark. |
| 01:32:28 | amiconn | The blit function isn't meant for normal graphics, but for special stuff like video etc |
| 01:33:02 | ]RowaN[ | EVERYTHING is ticked on parial view |
| 01:33:17 | amiconn | Cassandra: It's the lighter one of the 2 shades between white & black |
| 01:33:26 | Cassandra | Ah. :( |
| 01:33:30 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - well , partial view shows only the things that ARE ticked, so.. yeah... FULL view shows 'everything' |
| 01:33:36 | stripwax_ | Cassandra - adjust contrast? |
| 01:33:39 | ]RowaN[ | geez |
| 01:33:43 | ]RowaN[ | this is a nightmare installer |
| 01:33:47 | amiconn | The 2 shades are selectable from 6; I selected them so that they are roughly equal-spaced |
| 01:33:51 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - you'll get used to it |
| 01:34:08 | stripwax_ | amiconn - equal spaced wrt which contrast setting |
| 01:34:27 | stripwax_ | amiconn or in other words, are they the same two shades that iriver used? |
| 01:34:33 | amiconn | The spacing can't be exact, and I voted for the lighter one when between 2 |
| 01:34:59 | amiconn | I dunno what iriver uses, so I can't compare |
| 01:35:49 | amiconn | The lcd uses 3 bits for the grey level internally, 0..7, with 0 being white and 7 being black |
| 01:35:59 | amiconn | The 2 shades I used are 2 and 4 |
| 01:36:49 | amiconn | We could add some crude gamma adjustment... |
| 01:37:03 | stripwax_ | amiconn - :-) i'm sure that's not worth the effort |
| 01:37:49 | stripwax_ | ]RowaN[ - the installer assumes you want to set up a fully functional user/development environment, rather than just the bare basics to run a font editor :-) |
| 01:38:27 | amiconn | Cassandra: I have contrast set to 28 |
| 01:39:10 | * | ]RowaN[ gives up |
| 01:40:00 | stripwax_ | gnight all, way past my bed time ;-) |
| 01:40:13 | ]RowaN[ | cya |
| 01:40:18 | | Part stripwax_ |
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| 01:43:36 | webguest74 | hello all |
| 01:44:32 | webguest74 | i just reading in the patch tracker that there is a i2c patch |
| 01:44:51 | webguest74 | it's for FM, no? |
| 01:45:22 | hardeep | webguest74: i believe so, yes |
| 01:45:27 | hardeep | but it's not complete |
| 01:45:41 | webguest74 | a ok |
| 01:45:51 | webguest74 | anybody work on it |
| 01:46:24 | webguest74 | hardeep: you'r the playlist specialist, no? |
| 01:47:30 | webguest74 | i noticed with the lastests builds, the playlist mode have few nugs for iriver |
| 01:47:37 | webguest74 | *bugs |
| 01:48:02 | webguest74 | if i do a dynamical playlist there are few bugs |
| 01:48:18 | webguest74 | but probably playback problem, no? |
| 01:48:38 | hardeep | webguest74: depends on the bugs |
| 01:49:00 | hardeep | what are you seeing? |
| 01:49:26 | Moos | i inserted one song for the first, and i added few songs randomly |
| 01:49:55 | Moos | but the tracks go to next without i touch nothing |
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| 01:50:14 | Moos | and it don't start to start of the track |
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| 01:50:35 | Moos | and the WPS screen it's not synchrone with the songs |
| 01:50:43 | Moos | very strange behaviours |
| 01:51:07 | hardeep | can you reproduce this easily? |
| 01:51:10 | webguest74 | yes me too |
| 01:51:13 | bg | im trying to compile rockbox... im missing a dependency, m68k-elf-gcc. What package do I need to install to satisfy this dependency? |
| 01:51:17 | webguest74 | exctaly this |
| 01:51:40 | Moos | i'll trythis now |
| 01:51:54 | webguest74 | for me it's the same |
| 01:51:57 | hardeep | bg: you need to build the m68k cross compiler |
| 01:52:04 | hardeep | bg: instructions on web page |
| 01:52:18 | bg | ok... you wouldnt happen to know if gentoo's portage has an ebuild for that package would you? |
| 01:52:31 | hardeep | bg: i don't believe so |
| 01:52:33 | Moos | hardeep: i reported this to Slasheri |
| 01:52:43 | bg | hardeep: thanks |
| 01:52:57 | hardeep | Moos: yeah, it's likely a playback bug but i just wanted to be sure |
| 01:53:02 | webguest74 | hardeep thanks for i2c infos |
| 01:53:07 | webguest74 | bye all |
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| 01:53:33 | hardeep | Moos: next time you see it, please grab a copy of the /.rockbox/.playlist_control file |
| 01:53:42 | Moos | hardeep: i testing this |
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| 01:57:52 | Moos | hardeep: strange apear it's randomly i can't reproduce it |
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| 02:00:55 | Moos | it spinup a lot |
| 02:01:09 | Moos | lot of hd access |
| 02:01:37 | hardeep | Moos: yeah, every time you insert a track it has to reload the tracks |
| 02:01:45 | Moos | ok |
| 02:02:09 | hardeep | we can probably optimize this, but lets get it working correctly first. =) |
| 02:02:18 | Moos | indeed :) |
| 02:02:48 | Moos | just i don't remenber this behaviours few days old : |
| 02:02:51 | Moos | :) |
| 02:05:07 | Moos | can't reproduce the bug that webguest reported nevertheless i already met it |
| 02:16:05 | Moos | time to go to bed, Hardeep the last time i see this bug or other i'll send you the copy of playlist_controle file |
| 02:16:12 | Moos | good night all |
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| 06:18:08 | eleom | is there anyone who can help me? I'm going to make language pack rockbox in korean |
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| 06:28:21 | Coldtoast | howdy |
| 06:28:28 | Coldtoast | how good's FLAC support now? |
| 06:28:35 | Coldtoast | on iriver |
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| 07:31:52 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Hey anyone know where i can find the exact color values for the greyscale? |
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| 07:39:16 | ashridah | amiconn I dunno what iriver uses, so I can't compare |
| 07:39:17 | ashridah | amiconn The lcd uses 3 bits for the grey level internally, 0..7, with 0 being white and 7 being black |
| 07:39:17 | ashridah | amiconn The 2 shades I used are 2 and 4 |
| 07:39:35 | ashridah | that's as close as you'll get |
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| 07:49:41 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Yeah but i need the values, eg #FFFFFF is black (or white :P) |
| 07:50:11 | DJ_Dooms_Day | I wrote this wiki page a logn while ago, just wondering if its still the same: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxGraphicalUIDesign |
| 07:50:18 | DJ_Dooms_Day | *long |
| 07:50:30 | ashridah | i have no idea, you'd have to ask amiconn |
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| 07:50:53 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Also, I've made a custom WPS, but upon reboot it reverts back to default. I thought i read that once a WPS is loaded it stays loaded. |
| 07:53:29 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: put it in .rockbox |
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| 07:53:59 | LinusN | and the file name must be less than 24 chars long |
| 07:54:39 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ah, thanks |
| 07:57:08 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Linus do you know anything about WPS coding? |
| 07:57:14 | LinusN | some |
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| 07:59:04 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Well, i've made a few conditionals that once the 'next song' data is found will display it, but before that i have the message 'retrieving next song data...'. Now it all works fine but when the data is finally retrieved the message doesn't go away, the song info gets written over the top of it. |
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| 08:00:07 | DJ_Dooms_Day | So for example it'll say on the top line: 'ACDCeving next song data' |
| 08:01:35 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Though, once the next song data is loaded a second time (after the first time its instantanious) the info is properly refreshed |
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| 08:02:25 | LinusN | hey, iriver ninjas! |
| 08:02:43 | LinusN | is there a device called "iHP-100"? |
| 08:02:54 | DJ_Dooms_Day | o_O |
| 08:03:03 | DJ_Dooms_Day | What? |
| 08:03:03 | LinusN | damn, there is |
| 08:03:10 | B4gder | oh crappo |
| 08:05:31 | ashridah | wasn't the 100 a 10GB version of it? or was that a 110? |
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| 08:08:34 | LinusN | ok, my H110 has "iHP-100" printed on it |
| 08:08:48 | LinusN | so, is there a "H110" out there? |
| 08:09:16 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Well my iHP-140 has exactly that on it, if it makes any difference :P |
| 08:09:51 | LinusN | "iHP-140"? |
| 08:10:03 | B4gder | mine is a H140 |
| 08:10:09 | LinusN | mine too |
| 08:10:12 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Linus, an iHP-100 is a H110, and a iHP-140 is a H140 |
| 08:10:27 | DJ_Dooms_Day | They changed the names a little |
| 08:10:32 | B4gder | the i is gone |
| 08:10:40 | DJ_Dooms_Day | and the P? |
| 08:10:46 | B4gder | that too |
| 08:10:55 | LinusN | so, is there a H115? |
| 08:11:00 | DJ_Dooms_Day | nop |
| 08:11:05 | LinusN | or iHP-115 |
| 08:11:09 | DJ_Dooms_Day | theres a 120 i think |
| 08:11:20 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Theres no such thing as iHP at all, any more. |
| 08:11:30 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Check the iriver website |
| 08:11:33 | B4gder | well, the h100 is old |
| 08:11:42 | B4gder | it was the first, so it was called ihp back then |
| 08:11:57 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: i'm trying to sort out what models are out there |
| 08:12:18 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Theres no such thing as a H100 either i dont think. The 10GB one is now the H110. The only thing a H100 is, is the 'series' of player. |
| 08:12:30 | LinusN | http://www.epinions.com/pr-iRiver_iHP-115_MP3_Player |
| 08:12:58 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Ah, well there we go. |
| 08:13:16 | B4gder | ok, so there is one |
| 08:13:44 | LinusN | oh, shit, it seems there are H110's out there too |
| 08:13:53 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Linus, though that model was discontinued very quickly |
| 08:14:02 | B4gder | LinusN: you mean as in not iHP-110 ? |
| 08:14:16 | LinusN | as in not "iHP-100" |
| 08:14:17 | DJ_Dooms_Day | The H100 is the ultimate digital audio player. Listen to over 1,200(H140)/600(H120)/300(H110) hours of your music or tune in to the built-in FM radio. |
| 08:14:28 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Straight from the iriver site |
| 08:14:37 | DJ_Dooms_Day | they dont do the 15GB anymore |
| 08:14:50 | B4gder | we don't talk about what they do |
| 08:14:53 | B4gder | but that they did |
| 08:15:16 | LinusN | a rockbox user must know which version ti install |
| 08:15:20 | LinusN | to |
| 08:15:35 | B4gder | and rockbox code need to know how to ajust for targets |
| 08:15:50 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Ok, well then theres iHP-100 (H110), iHP-115 (H115), iHP-120 (H120), iHP-140 (H140) |
| 08:16:10 | B4gder | really? |
| 08:16:12 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Yep |
| 08:16:21 | B4gder | was the iHP-100 ever called H110? |
| 08:16:56 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Not at the start. Iriver now call all the H-1xx's the H100 series |
| 08:17:23 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Same with the new ones, all H-3xx's are the H300 series |
| 08:17:36 | LinusN | the question is, are there players out there with "H110" on them instead of "iHP-100"? |
| 08:17:39 | B4gder | so they call them that, but no unit is marked like that? |
| 08:17:46 | DJ_Dooms_Day | There is no such thing as a H100 or H300 player. |
| 08:18:34 | DJ_Dooms_Day | No, there is NO player that has the model 'H100' printed on it. However there will be 'iHP-100' printed on some. |
| 08:18:39 | * | LinusN asks in the mr forum |
| 08:18:41 | DJ_Dooms_Day | But, you may want to double check that |
| 08:18:56 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Thats the way i saw it though |
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| 08:22:48 | B4gder | you think the h100 has the same adc setup has the h120? |
| 08:22:59 | LinusN | yes |
| 08:23:18 | LinusN | i think the only major difference to rockbox is the sdram setup |
| 08:23:42 | LinusN | we'll soon find out, when i brick my h110 in a few minutes :-) |
| 08:23:53 | B4gder | hehe |
| 08:24:11 | B4gder | I'll setup a h100 cvs build |
| 08:24:42 | B4gder | that'll cause some confusion me guess |
| 08:25:19 | LinusN | oh yes |
| 08:26:08 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Is there really that much difference between the players? |
| 08:26:11 | B4gder | I'll commit my fixes first |
| 08:27:17 | DJ_Dooms_Day | I thought it'd just be the HDD diff |
| 08:27:30 | B4gder | there's more than that |
| 08:28:34 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: the h110 has 16mbytes ram instead of 32 |
| 08:28:47 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ah |
| 08:28:56 | LinusN | and there's something about a mic amp as well |
| 08:29:00 | DJ_Dooms_Day | no emu for that player then :P |
| 08:29:31 | LinusN | you mean rockboy? |
| 08:29:45 | DJ_Dooms_Day | yeah |
| 08:29:48 | LinusN | should work |
| 08:29:56 | DJ_Dooms_Day | or is that mainly CPU dependant? |
| 08:30:34 | LinusN | in fact, the h110 is probably *slightly* faster than the h120, because the sdram refresh is half the speec |
| 08:30:46 | LinusN | speed |
| 08:31:21 | B4gder | and its away |
| 08:32:54 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Wouldn't make that much diff though would it? THe speed of the SDRAM would far outweigh the speed of both CPU and HDD right? |
| 08:35:14 | LinusN | the refresh frequency does matter at low cpu frequencies, since it eats up a great deal of the ram bandwidth |
| 08:36:17 | LinusN | but the difference at high frequencies is probably not even noticeable |
| 08:36:18 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Ah, true |
| 08:37:07 | B4gder | ok, so the daily build is called h120 from tomorrow |
| 08:38:07 | Cassandra | How did you find an H110? |
| 08:38:33 | Bger | from rasher afaik |
| 08:38:35 | Bger | morning btw |
| 08:38:56 | Bger | and rasher found it from other guy |
| 08:38:57 | Cassandra | Morning. |
| 08:39:28 | Cassandra | Wouldn't 3xx support be more useful? |
| 08:39:38 | LinusN | Cassandra: not to the h100 owners |
| 08:39:49 | Cassandra | They exist? :) |
| 08:39:56 | DJ_Dooms_Day | yes, they do |
| 08:40:09 | * | LinusN is one :-) |
| 08:40:22 | * | DJ_Dooms_Day Seconds Linus |
| 08:40:35 | LinusN | i have seen two H110 devices in real life |
| 08:40:43 | Cassandra | I have also been acquiring. I picked up a Player on eBay for 25 quid. |
| 08:40:57 | B4gder | hehe |
| 08:41:04 | Cassandra | Which should make my life easier. |
| 08:41:52 | Cassandra | Just need an Ondio now and I'll have the set. ;) |
| 08:42:29 | * | B4gder feels like there's a who-owns-most-rockbox-devices compo comping up :-) |
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| 08:42:37 | LinusN | Cassandra: u have a v2? :-) |
| 08:42:45 | Cassandra | Linus wins. |
| 08:42:51 | Cassandra | I have an FM, yes. |
| 08:42:52 | LinusN | maybe |
| 08:43:11 | Cassandra | I don't have a v1, as it happens. |
| 08:43:19 | LinusN | jörg has a whole pile of broken archos players though |
| 08:43:31 | Cassandra | But you know, you've gotta draw the line somewhere. |
| 08:43:35 | LinusN | hehe |
| 08:45:08 | Cassandra | I can't decide whether the new Google toolbar for Firefox is incredibly useful, or a pointless waste of screen real estate. |
| 08:45:37 | LinusN | or spyware :-) |
| 08:45:54 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Hey im trying to make a WPS background graphic, but im finding it hard to align it all, and figure out where my writing is. Is there something i'm missing? I can't find the appropriate wiki page either. |
| 08:46:29 | Bger | www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/Main/CustomWPS |
| 08:47:03 | Bger | err |
| 08:47:18 | DJ_Dooms_Day | yeah i have that page |
| 08:47:28 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Theres almsot nothing on creating a graphic |
| 08:47:33 | Bger | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 08:48:05 | Bger | Image Tag: |
| 08:48:05 | Bger | %xn|filename|x|y| |
| 08:48:07 | Bger | where: |
| 08:48:09 | Bger | etc |
| 08:48:22 | Cassandra | Linus: No, that was the Google web accelerator. |
| 08:48:55 | DJ_Dooms_Day | lol, keyword here Bger is -CREATING-. I know very well how to place the graphic on the WPS. |
| 08:49:28 | DJ_Dooms_Day | All i know is the max width/hieght is 160x128 |
| 08:49:28 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: just make the image as big as you need |
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| 08:50:03 | JeffMistic | iHP was the original moniker given to the iriver HDD players |
| 08:50:08 | LinusN | i know |
| 08:50:23 | JeffMistic | they changed to H after Hewlett Packard threatend litigation |
| 08:50:27 | LinusN | yup |
| 08:50:58 | JeffMistic | 60gig drive in my 140 is very sweet!! |
| 08:51:01 | LinusN | hehe |
| 08:51:08 | DJ_Dooms_Day | heh, yeah but how in gods name can i trace around the info i already have on the WPS? Trial and error? I thought there might have been another way, or atleast figuring out where the lines are |
| 08:51:15 | JeffMistic | now i've got lots of room for rockbox goodies |
| 08:51:26 | DJ_Dooms_Day | heh nice Jeff |
| 08:51:47 | LinusN | the real question is: could there be 120/140 devices out there marked "iHP-100"? |
| 08:52:00 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Yes Linus |
| 08:52:02 | LinusN | or "H100" |
| 08:52:02 | DJ_Dooms_Day | There are |
| 08:52:06 | JeffMistic | as far as i know, no |
| 08:52:22 | DJ_Dooms_Day | The 10GB irivers were iHP-100's i believe |
| 08:52:25 | JeffMistic | in the U.S. all players were iHP-120, iHP-140, H120, H140 |
| 08:52:50 | LinusN | i have a H110 marked "iHP-100" |
| 08:53:05 | DJ_Dooms_Day | There |
| 08:53:18 | JeffMistic | yes, but the 20 and 40 gig were never marked H100 |
| 08:53:20 | DJ_Dooms_Day | 10GB irivers were called iHP-100, before the name change |
| 08:53:53 | LinusN | JeffMistic: if that is true, the user can figure out which rockbox to install based on the numbers alone |
| 08:54:20 | LinusN | if it's less that 120, it is an older H110 type of device |
| 08:54:39 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Soudns good to me |
| 08:55:12 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Any iriver marked with the number: 100, 110, 150 are the other type of iriver. |
| 08:55:19 | B4gder | time to refill cup |
| 08:55:30 | LinusN | there is a serious bricking risk that we need to address |
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| 08:56:44 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Linus, though, you may want to be careful because on the back of mine it says 'Model No. iHP-140'. But on the new H series they might have put 'H100 series' on them (even the 20 and 40GB ones) |
| 08:57:59 | Bger | i doubt that |
| 08:58:50 | Cassandra | I just checked. Mine only says H140, front and back. |
| 08:58:56 | DJ_Dooms_Day | I don't. In fact i'd say they would have put 'H100 series' on it somewhere. Either way, it should be chgecked out |
| 08:59:04 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Ok, well thats that |
| 08:59:21 | LinusN | the only risk is that the user patches a H120 firmware with the H100 bootloader |
| 08:59:41 | LinusN | then they have a brisk |
| 08:59:44 | LinusN | brick |
| 08:59:52 | LinusN | so our firmware patcher must handle that |
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| 09:00:09 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Why don't you add a MD5 checker to the patcher then? |
| 09:00:31 | DJ_Dooms_Day | That will solve all problems |
| 09:00:38 | LinusN | there is one already |
| 09:00:42 | LinusN | phew |
| 09:03:37 | Cassandra | Is there any reason why we couldn't implement left and right screen orientations, as well as up and down? |
| 09:04:06 | DJ_Dooms_Day | there are left and right ones |
| 09:04:38 | LinusN | Cassandra: ? |
| 09:04:53 | Cassandra | No, I mean like the "upside down" screen mode. |
| 09:05:08 | Cassandra | So you could use the jukebox on its side. |
| 09:05:12 | LinusN | the upside-down mode is an lcd feature |
| 09:05:22 | B4gder | Cassandra: it would change the height and width values when rotating |
| 09:05:23 | LinusN | jusr reversing the scanline order |
| 09:05:34 | Cassandra | Ah, right. |
| 09:05:37 | LinusN | and we would need rotated fonts |
| 09:05:44 | Cassandra | B4gder: obviously. |
| 09:06:19 | Cassandra | Linus: Couldn't that be done in software? |
| 09:06:48 | Cassandra | (Although I think this idea falls into the 'nifty but essentially useless' category anyway.) |
| 09:07:35 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Just double checking here, but the latest build has greyscale working true? As in a greyscale .bmp in the WPS will be grey? |
| 09:07:43 | B4gder | DJ_Dooms_Day: no |
| 09:07:55 | B4gder | no greyscale bmp loading is supported yet |
| 09:08:03 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Damn |
| 09:08:30 | DJ_Dooms_Day | and i can't change the internal graphics without recompiling my self can i? |
| 09:09:19 | Cassandra | That's correct. |
| 09:09:24 | B4gder | internal means internal, yes |
| 09:09:55 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ...what? o_O |
| 09:10:17 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Ofcoarse internal means internal, thats why i said it. |
| 09:10:33 | * | B4gder looks at DJ_Dooms_Day |
| 09:10:36 | * | LinusN feels old, he doesn't quite see what o_O is supposed to mean |
| 09:11:33 | Cassandra | Maybe it means "I have a very oddly shaped tape deck". |
| 09:11:36 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Linus, their eyes. Ala i'm lifting my eyebrow in a gesture of 'wtf?' |
| 09:11:41 | DJ_Dooms_Day | lol |
| 09:11:53 | B4gder | hahaha |
| 09:12:00 | LinusN | ah, so the _ is the nose? |
| 09:12:06 | DJ_Dooms_Day | mouth |
| 09:12:11 | DJ_Dooms_Day | no nose :P |
| 09:12:16 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ..just like that smily |
| 09:12:20 | * | LinusN cleans his glasses |
| 09:12:23 | B4gder | I think it is a bike upsidedown |
| 09:12:31 | Cassandra | He's a noseless freak with an oddly shaped tape deck. |
| 09:12:39 | LinusN | lol |
| 09:12:47 | DJ_Dooms_Day | \o/ |
| 09:12:52 | LinusN | or a faceless freak with swollen ears |
| 09:13:10 | Cassandra | Or the very top of Mickey Mouse. |
| 09:13:29 | DJ_Dooms_Day | or! A stick man with his arms up? |
| 09:13:58 | LinusN | hmmm, then what does o_o mean then? |
| 09:14:06 | DJ_Dooms_Day | shock? |
| 09:14:10 | DJ_Dooms_Day | O_O |
| 09:14:17 | LinusN | ah |
| 09:14:28 | DJ_Dooms_Day | baffled-ness maybe? |
| 09:14:47 | LinusN | so then -_- means "unconscious"? |
| 09:14:50 | DJ_Dooms_Day | i dunno, use your imagination, you guys seem pretty good at it, your just a little misguided |
| 09:14:53 | DJ_Dooms_Day | haha |
| 09:15:27 | Cassandra | Hey, at least we know how to spell "you're". |
| 09:15:29 | DJ_Dooms_Day | nar thats more like, hrm, a 'DAR!' gesture. |
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| 09:15:36 | Cassandra | Gods I'm getting old. |
| 09:15:53 | DJ_Dooms_Day | heh, 'you're' has never stuck with me |
| 09:16:34 | Cassandra | See, that's the problem with the youth of today. No concept of how to use the English language. |
| 09:16:50 | Cassandra | (That's what they said about my generation, and the one before it too.) |
| 09:17:16 | DJ_Dooms_Day | What makes you think i'm young? |
| 09:17:24 | Cassandra | Your nick. |
| 09:17:39 | DJ_Dooms_Day | heh, thought you'd say that. |
| 09:17:49 | LinusN | the older you become, the good old days get better and better |
| 09:17:57 | B4gder | and the way you speak |
| 09:18:08 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Well, thats why i keep this name, for the good old days. |
| 09:18:35 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Really? What do you class as 'young' anyway? What age? |
| 09:18:52 | LinusN | younger than 36 :-) |
| 09:19:12 | Cassandra | Yay! Linus thinks I'm young. |
| 09:19:19 | B4gder | hehe |
| 09:19:32 | B4gder | then I'm young too |
| 09:19:40 | LinusN | a spoiled kid |
| 09:19:48 | * | B4gder jumps and up down screaming |
| 09:20:19 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Based on my name, how old do you think i am? |
| 09:20:25 | B4gder | 20 |
| 09:20:27 | LinusN | 20 |
| 09:20:40 | Cassandra | I'd go with that. |
| 09:20:45 | B4gder | and I don't mean hex ;-) |
| 09:20:49 | DJ_Dooms_Day | lol |
| 09:20:59 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ha, wow, i would have thought you'd go for around 13s |
| 09:21:29 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Because thats when i made it. But, i'm now 17, going on 18. |
| 09:21:31 | Cassandra | Nah, that'd be DJ_D00m5_DaY. |
| 09:21:35 | DJ_Dooms_Day | haha |
| 09:21:36 | DJ_Dooms_Day | true |
| 09:22:10 | LinusN | DJ_Dooms_Day: pretty close then |
| 09:22:27 | Cassandra | I was thinking "maybe slightly younger" |
| 09:22:52 | DJ_Dooms_Day | I don't want to change it coz its got too much history behind it. You could probably google me and find out exactly where i live and what i do. :P That could be a bad thing though. |
| 09:23:20 | amiconn | Cassandra: Sideways lcd mode would essentially require a new set of graphis routines, and a new bitmap format + font format |
| 09:23:35 | amiconn | (everything rotated by 90 deg. |
| 09:23:36 | B4gder | history? |
| 09:23:45 | B4gder | you're only 17 |
| 09:23:47 | LinusN | Cassandra: meaning "forget it. now." |
| 09:23:53 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 09:24:14 | B4gder | I |
| 09:24:22 | B4gder | ve had my nicker since beore you were born |
| 09:24:24 | B4gder | nick |
| 09:24:31 | amiconn | It would mean that the code would have to contain all bitmaps twice, and font support will get tricky |
| 09:24:54 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Well, google "Dj Dooms Day", find all my history. |
| 09:25:00 | amiconn | (2 versions of each font, but that should be probably in the same file) |
| 09:25:02 | B4gder | rotate would only make sence if lcd_update() did the rotating |
| 09:25:11 | Cassandra | amicon: Fairy nuff. |
| 09:25:26 | amiconn | B4gder: That's be veeeerrryy slooooowww |
| 09:25:30 | B4gder | yes |
| 09:25:47 | Cassandra | Sony can do it. :) |
| 09:25:52 | amiconn | Bitrotating like mad... and it wouldn't solve the width/height conflict |
| 09:26:15 | B4gder | I know |
| 09:26:56 | * | Rick boogies |
| 09:27:21 | amiconn | Cassandra: It would be easier if we would not have chosen the internal lcd data layout as our framebuffer format, but I know someone who has objected against that... |
| 09:27:31 | amiconn | ...and I think he's right |
| 09:27:58 | Cassandra | Bit late now though, I guess. |
| 09:30:28 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Hey, with the XY co-ords of the WPS bmp, where does it start? is top left 0,0 or is the middle of the screen 0,0? |
| 09:30:36 | B4gder | top left |
| 09:30:40 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ok, thanks |
| 09:30:44 | Cassandra | I wish the Rockbox forums wouldn't keep calling me a "Newbie" |
| 09:30:52 | B4gder | hehe |
| 09:32:28 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Hey, just wondering here. The new H3xx series have a feature that has them recharge while on USB connection. Would that be software or hardware dependant? |
| 09:32:48 | B4gder | now there |
| 09:32:54 | B4gder | is a h100 build in the cvs table |
| 09:33:02 | B4gder | I hate this laptop keyboard |
| 09:37:58 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Hrm, what bit does the bmp need to be? |
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| 09:39:18 | DomZ | hi everybody |
| 09:39:52 | DomZ | what is the difference between H100 build and H120 build ? |
| 09:40:12 | DomZ | this is the same firmware ? |
| 09:40:15 | DJ_Dooms_Day | No |
| 09:40:30 | DJ_Dooms_Day | The H120 build is for H120s and H140s |
| 09:40:51 | DJ_Dooms_Day | The H100 build is for H110s, H115s |
| 09:42:10 | B4gder | added note on daily build page |
| 09:42:11 | DomZ | but why make 2 build if this is the same ? |
| 09:42:20 | B4gder | it isn't |
| 09:42:26 | B4gder | or rather, they are not the same |
| 09:43:23 | DomZ | ok :) |
| 09:45:52 | B4gder | I'm quite pleased with the ease we can add new builds to the site |
| 09:46:14 | LinusN | indeed |
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| 10:01:31 | Rick | er, wai |
| 10:01:31 | Rick | t |
| 10:01:39 | Rick | we have support for h11x? |
| 10:01:45 | Rick | cool :O |
| 10:01:58 | Cassandra | Not yet. Linus still needs to get it working. |
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| 10:21:40 | DJ_Dooms_Day | phew, finally finished my WPS |
| 10:22:09 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Man that was an effort |
| 10:23:15 | B4gder | I beg to differ |
| 10:24:25 | DJ_Dooms_Day | lol, how the hell would know what i did? |
| 10:24:43 | B4gder | editing a WPS can't be an effort by my definition |
| 10:25:03 | DJ_Dooms_Day | That part was easy |
| 10:25:10 | DJ_Dooms_Day | The hard part is aligning it all |
| 10:25:19 | B4gder | that's not hard |
| 10:25:21 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Specially when your not using the sim |
| 10:25:25 | B4gder | only tedious |
| 10:25:40 | DJ_Dooms_Day | i never said it was hard |
| 10:25:48 | B4gder | no? |
| 10:25:52 | B4gder | five lines up |
| 10:25:53 | DJ_Dooms_Day | i said it was an effort |
| 10:26:04 | B4gder | "The hard part is aligning it all" |
| 10:26:18 | DJ_Dooms_Day | haha, i did too. Well i just shutdown my self hardcore |
| 10:26:43 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Well i ment 'hard' in the sence that it took time |
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| 10:27:00 | B4gder | I figure |
| 10:27:11 | B4gder | people spend too much time on eye candy :-) |
| 10:27:16 | Coldtoast | wee! just upgraded my battery |
| 10:28:02 | DJ_Dooms_Day | well if i knew how to code i'd be helping, but i can't, so i won't. |
| 10:28:27 | Coldtoast | you there ep0ch? |
| 10:28:49 | DJ_Dooms_Day | if i could code i would have made an rockbox theme editor by now. |
| 10:29:05 | B4gder | you _can_ learn things you know... |
| 10:29:49 | Coldtoast | rockbox theme editor? |
| 10:29:53 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Oh yeah, because learning a half decent coding language is just that easy. |
| 10:29:54 | Coldtoast | hell, just do it in VB |
| 10:30:16 | Coldtoast | a rockbox theme editor would be SOOOO easy in VB |
| 10:30:23 | Coldtoast | and you could easily learn that |
| 10:30:47 | B4gder | I just loath the pity escuse "I don't know anything so I can't help" |
| 10:31:05 | B4gder | the LEARN goddammit |
| 10:31:07 | DJ_Dooms_Day | I've tried VB before, a few times actually. I plan to learn it, but everytime i start i find my self not having the time. |
| 10:31:13 | Coldtoast | hey. did I mention I just finished upgrading the battery in my h140? heh |
| 10:31:21 | Rick | DJ_Dooms_Day: you have enough time if you can argue about it on IRC :p |
| 10:31:49 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Believe it or not, but i am actually doing other things than sitting here and talking to you |
| 10:31:57 | B4gder | we all do |
| 10:32:01 | Rick | yeah. :P |
| 10:32:06 | B4gder | we all have full time jobs |
| 10:32:06 | Coldtoast | one word of advice for anybody planning to upgrade the battery; there's NO substitute for the right tool! definitely get the correct sized torx! |
| 10:32:20 | Rick | Coldtoast: hehe |
| 10:32:21 | DJ_Dooms_Day | I spend a large amount of my time mapping |
| 10:32:30 | Rick | B4gder: how complicated are WPS files? I havn't played with them yet |
| 10:32:37 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Their piss rick |
| 10:32:42 | B4gder | Rick: like printf() strings on speed ;-) |
| 10:32:47 | Rick | ah |
| 10:32:50 | Rick | sounds easy to parse |
| 10:32:55 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:32:56 | Coldtoast | I got all but one torx screw out easily with a small flathead screwdriver but one of the ones on the mobo didn't want to cooperate. Started to damage it |
| 10:32:58 | DJ_Dooms_Day | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 10:33:13 | Rick | when I get back into rockbox dev i'll see if I can whip up a preview system in PHP :P |
| 10:33:41 | Coldtoast | php would be nice but standalone would be nicer |
| 10:33:42 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Any of you guys active in any mod projects? |
| 10:33:47 | | Part LinusN |
| 10:33:49 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ...that is, gaming ones |
| 10:34:08 | Rick | Coldtoast: I locally use PHP for standalone projects (if you mean executable clientside by standalone) |
| 10:34:08 | B4gder | gaming takes time from rockbox, don't do that :-) |
| 10:34:13 | Coldtoast | nice to not have to be running php or have to run it off a site. I liek standalone |
| 10:34:22 | Coldtoast | oh? cool! |
| 10:34:30 | Rick | Coldtoast: http://winbinder.sf.net/ |
| 10:34:38 | Coldtoast | I've never written anything like that. Just server side stuff |
| 10:35:02 | DJ_Dooms_Day | B4gder: lol thats EXACTLY my reason for not just jumping into things and learning it all |
| 10:35:53 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:36:03 | Rick | Coldtoast: I write all kinds of stuff in PHP −− as well as prototyping c++ applications in it. |
| 10:36:09 | DJ_Dooms_Day | AFK, dinner |
| 10:36:38 | Coldtoast | nice. I've actaully only ever written one thing in |
| 10:36:47 | Coldtoast | PHP and that's my own site. heh |
| 10:36:58 | Coldtoast | but I did write it all. no ripoffs |
| 10:37:03 | Coldtoast | I REALLY like PHP |
| 10:38:04 | B4gder | I prefer perl to php any day |
| 10:38:21 | Rick | B4gder: I don't like perl :[ |
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| 10:41:11 | Coldtoast | man.. this guy I work with sent me a couple of messages |
| 10:41:31 | Coldtoast | and he irritatingly uses some f the radio calls we use at work in his messages |
| 10:41:39 | Coldtoast | like "Copy that" instead of "okay" |
| 10:41:47 | Coldtoast | it's ridiculous |
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| 10:45:12 | ep0ch | it's "Roger that", at least he should get it right ;) |
| 10:45:19 | belgarath | coldtoast: where did you get the battery from? |
| 10:45:41 | Coldtoast | wbay belgarath |
| 10:45:45 | Coldtoast | err.. ebay |
| 10:45:46 | Coldtoast | heh |
| 10:45:53 | Coldtoast | it was, like, $20US |
| 10:46:00 | belgarath | is it 2100mAh? |
| 10:46:04 | Coldtoast | do a search for "2200mah" |
| 10:46:08 | belgarath | cool |
| 10:46:17 | Coldtoast | 2200mah. IPod 1st gen and 2nd gen |
| 10:46:19 | belgarath | so it should be like 31 hours? |
| 10:46:26 | Coldtoast | you just need to switch the wires ont eh connector |
| 10:46:35 | Coldtoast | apparently it's 29hrs |
| 10:46:38 | ep0ch | well rockbox says 27h30 |
| 10:46:43 | Coldtoast | not tested yet tho. chargingnow |
| 10:46:51 | belgarath | it seems easy but i don't know how hard it would be to switch the molex connectors |
| 10:46:56 | ep0ch | you got it in OK? |
| 10:46:57 | Coldtoast | ep0ch: I ended up buyign the right sized torx |
| 10:47:02 | Coldtoast | I did, yeah |
| 10:47:18 | belgarath | was it a 4 mm deep one? |
| 10:47:28 | ep0ch | i just did the brush metal mod |
| 10:47:30 | Coldtoast | 2 tips I have: get the right torx to make it a bit easier |
| 10:47:44 | ep0ch | i had no probs with my flatheaded one... |
| 10:47:51 | ep0ch | i was lucky |
| 10:48:01 | belgarath | ooh how did you get the brushed metal look? |
| 10:48:21 | Coldtoast | and tip 2: when you have it all connected and you have all but the back cover on, fit the battery into the back cover and then put it together, Don't try and fit the back on with the battery sitting on the HDD |
| 10:48:21 | webguest26 | Can anybody spot what I did wrong here : downloaded latest songdb.pl, copied it and the vorbiscomm.pm to .rockbox dir on player. Ran it. It created the rockbox.tagdb (also in .rockbox), unplugged iriver, changed file view to id3 database. Now why is the view blank ? Did I screw up ? |
| 10:48:28 | ep0ch | used "silicone carbide paper" |
| 10:48:38 | Coldtoast | how's it look ep0ch? |
| 10:48:48 | ep0ch | well it looked good |
| 10:48:48 | B4gder | webguest26: no idea |
| 10:48:57 | Coldtoast | looked" past tense? |
| 10:49:05 | ep0ch | but i kept on going with differnt paper types and now its shiny :) |
| 10:49:09 | B4gder | webguest26: you have run a recent build too I guess? |
| 10:49:11 | Coldtoast | hehe. cool! |
| 10:49:16 | B4gder | you run even |
| 10:49:16 | ep0ch | soon it will be a mirror :) |
| 10:49:22 | Coldtoast | clearcoat it ep0ch |
| 10:49:24 | Chamois | i used bmp2rb in cygwin to have a bmp in grey rockbox format, but i don't know how copy the struct it gives me |
| 10:49:27 | ep0ch | yeah will do |
| 10:49:27 | webguest26 | yes, it's a bleeding edge from yesterday. I could try today's daily build I suppose. |
| 10:49:29 | Chamois | help |
| 10:49:32 | Coldtoast | be sure an clearcoat it. |
| 10:49:34 | Coldtoast | good stuff |
| 10:49:46 | B4gder | webguest26: I don't think there are any changes related to that made since anyway |
| 10:50:00 | webguest26 | B4dger: worth a try though eh ? |
| 10:50:05 | B4gder | yes, sure |
| 10:50:11 | Coldtoast | ep0ch: did you find it MUCH easier to fit together by fitting the battery into the back cover then joining the halves? when installingthe battery? |
| 10:50:31 | Coldtoast | or did you have the battery sitting ont he HDD and fit the back cover onto it? |
| 10:50:43 | ep0ch | oh fitted into the back cover |
| 10:50:49 | ep0ch | no probs |
| 10:50:54 | Coldtoast | yeah. it's definitely the way to do it |
| 10:51:09 | ep0ch | hardest thing my far is getting the old connector out and the new one in!! |
| 10:51:13 | Coldtoast | oh yeah! did you also remove the white label? |
| 10:51:34 | ep0ch | from the new battery? |
| 10:51:39 | Coldtoast | yep |
| 10:51:48 | ep0ch | yeah, i just had to look inside ;) |
| 10:52:03 | Coldtoast | heh, I did it to get a bit of thickness off |
| 10:52:24 | Coldtoast | it's a good fit tho. Didn't feel TOO snug |
| 10:52:34 | webguest26 | B4gder: Bizarre, that did indeed sort it out. Guess I should try sorting it myself in future eh ? :) |
| 10:52:51 | B4gder | webguest26: ah, goodie |
| 10:54:11 | webguest26 | I wonder if it's because I should have rebooted after I'd built the tagdb. |
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| 11:00:42 | webguest26 | Does the playcount update even if you launch a song from file view rather than DB view ? |
| 11:01:04 | B4gder | yes |
| 11:01:20 | B4gder | as long as the file exists in the db |
| 11:01:36 | webguest26 | is there somewhere to view the playcount info ? |
| 11:01:39 | B4gder | and has a hash - I believe |
| 11:01:46 | B4gder | webguest26: you can make the wps show it |
| 11:01:55 | webguest26 | ah yes! forgot that. |
| 11:02:01 | webguest26 | thanks |
| 11:08:22 | DomZ | some news about the guy who made the radio working and who killed his iRiver ? |
| 11:08:40 | ep0ch | :o |
| 11:08:52 | B4gder | he said he's gonna work on porting rockbox to iaudio |
| 11:09:05 | B4gder | we are sponsoring a BDM connector |
| 11:09:25 | B4gder | if he comes to it |
| 11:09:27 | ep0ch | any idea which iAudio? |
| 11:09:31 | B4gder | x5 I think |
| 11:09:35 | ep0ch | nice |
| 11:10:13 | ep0ch | anyone know if there are any side by side shots of the X5 and ihp-120 around? |
| 11:10:35 | ep0ch | am tempted to get one if it's a bit smaller |
| 11:10:40 | DomZ | and why it doesn't give his code for the iRiver radio ? |
| 11:15:34 | ep0ch | tell you what, if he commits his code i'll donate some money for his BDM |
| 11:16:05 | ep0ch | and i'll donate more when MOD and SID work :p |
| 11:16:11 | B4gder | hehe |
| 11:16:24 | DomZ | :)) |
| 11:22:20 | amiconn | Radio shouldn't be hard |
| 11:22:21 | belgarath | how hard would implementing wma playback be? |
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| 11:22:44 | amiconn | The radio chip is the same as in the newer ondios, so we already have part of the code |
| 11:23:00 | B4gder | belgarath: just port a floating point implementation to fixed-point |
| 11:23:16 | belgarath | ok |
| 11:23:29 | B4gder | but you need a few clues to do that well |
| 11:23:31 | belgarath | i'm thinking of learning a bit about C over the summer |
| 11:23:51 | belgarath | but obviously i would never get proficient enough to code for rockbox |
| 11:24:25 | B4gder | you could starting doing plugins |
| 11:24:35 | belgarath | thats true |
| 11:24:50 | B4gder | it is a good way to start rockbox hacking |
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| 11:37:25 | sox | hi all |
| 11:37:54 | sox | what does error -5 mean when i boot my iriver? it keeps booting into irivers firmware instead of rockbox. |
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| 11:40:18 | sox | im running bootloader v2 and todays bleeding edge |
| 11:40:26 | sox | it has been working for months |
| 11:40:44 | Cassandra | Probably the copy of the new firmware to the drive failed. |
| 11:40:48 | Cassandra | Try copying it again. |
| 11:41:08 | Cassandra | Oh, and chkdsk your iRiver. |
| 11:42:29 | sox | solved, i had a script that downloaded the bleeding edge, and today the filenames has changed on the website... |
| 11:50:05 | LinusN | lunch |
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| 12:04:07 | sox | i must be doing something wrong, but the bleeding edge zip for 120 doesnt contain any codecs...? the codecs dir is empty. |
| 12:05:05 | Chamois | hmm exact |
| 12:05:13 | sox | so what's wrong |
| 12:05:30 | Chamois | B4dger has to modify script |
| 12:05:54 | Chamois | *B4gder |
| 12:06:59 | sox | ah |
| 12:07:07 | sox | what a relief, i thought i was an idiot |
| 12:07:45 | sox | so which is the latest complete version to download? i allready wiped my old .rockbox folder while trying to understand what was wrong |
| 12:11:22 | sox | will downloading the source and building my own work? |
| 12:11:43 | webguest26 | sox: get the daily build from today |
| 12:13:08 | webguest26 | the codecs are all present in that zip |
| 12:14:54 | sox | thanks |
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| 12:26:45 | B4gder | fixed |
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| 12:39:26 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/configure-versioncheck.patch |
| 12:39:38 | B4gder | interested in feedback |
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| 12:54:34 | B4gder | amiconn: you think this kind of approach would be useful? patch here: |
| 12:54:35 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/configure-versioncheck.patch |
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| 12:56:25 | Moos | Hi all |
| 12:56:30 | B4gder | hi |
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| 13:03:21 | amiconn | B4gder: I don't know whether it's necessary... |
| 13:06:13 | B4gder | I just thought it might be useful to some and it doesn't hurt much |
| 13:08:13 | amiconn | Mhm. |
| 13:11:44 | amiconn | I would be interested in some configure variables being set which contain year, month, and day separately |
| 13:12:22 | amiconn | (in order to change the starting date of the 'faked time count' in the fat driver for units without rtc) |
| 13:13:31 | B4gder | we could have the makefile get them on every invoke |
| 13:14:55 | amiconn | Ah, yes of course I mean the top-level makefile |
| 13:15:00 | B4gder | line YEAR=$(shell date +%D) |
| 13:15:02 | B4gder | like |
| 13:15:36 | B4gder | %D being day of course ;-) |
| 13:16:00 | amiconn | Currently there is a variable which gets set to the current time and date for cvs builds, but that's not very usable for my purpose |
| 13:16:51 | amiconn | Yeah, that adds 3 variables and calls the shell 4 times. Is there a way to do that with fewer calls? |
| 13:17:03 | amiconn | (Thinking cygwin slowness here) |
| 13:17:58 | B4gder | hm |
| 13:19:13 | B4gder | I can't think of any other way right now |
| 13:20:28 | amiconn | The compiler provides __DATE__, but that would be a pain to parse |
| 13:20:59 | amiconn | ...with the month as 3 letters |
| 13:21:44 | B4gder | I think I know how to reduce it to one call |
| 13:22:22 | B4gder | NOW=$(shell gnudate +'-DDAY=%d -DYEAR=%y -DMONTH=%m') |
| 13:22:33 | B4gder | then add $(NOW) to the compiler options |
| 13:22:42 | B4gder | s/gnudate/date |
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| 13:26:27 | * | ac got today his iaudio x5 |
| 13:26:52 | B4gder | any cool? |
| 13:27:13 | B4gder | miss Rockbox? ;-) |
| 13:28:24 | ac | i will open it and make some scanns of the board... |
| 13:28:32 | amiconn | B4gder: sounds good |
| 13:30:55 | Lynx_ | Has the Gmini XS 202 already been discussed here? :) |
| 13:31:13 | B4gder | not afaik |
| 13:31:50 | Moos | hi Christian, congratulations :) |
| 13:33:10 | Chamois | ac ? |
| 13:33:15 | Chamois | here ? |
| 13:33:50 | Lynx_ | What platform might that one be? It plays wma...does that say anything about the hardware? |
| 13:34:28 | B4gder | the model name sounds similar to 220XS |
| 13:34:46 | B4gder | which is calmrisc based |
| 13:35:30 | Lynx_ | it's interesting because it's fairly low cost, and has a monochrome display |
| 13:37:27 | B4gder | but no ogg |
| 13:37:52 | B4gder | "ID tag 3 compatible" |
| 13:37:53 | Lynx_ | no. but i was thinking about rockboxability of course. |
| 13:37:54 | B4gder | haha |
| 13:38:20 | B4gder | http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500704_specs.html btw |
| 13:38:30 | | Part MisticJeff |
| 13:39:26 | B4gder | "able to hold up 10,000 songs" |
| 13:39:38 | B4gder | I have ~6000 on a twice as big hd... |
| 13:40:08 | Lynx_ | hehe |
| 13:40:26 | B4gder | but I guess that's just regular sales speak |
| 13:40:41 | Lynx_ | or wma files from walmart online music store ;) |
| 13:41:38 | Lynx_ | http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500704_specs.html is another specs page for the same product? |
| 13:42:08 | amiconn | Afaik there is no gmini 220XS. I know of 120, SP, 220 and XS200 |
| 13:42:17 | amiconn | All these are CalmRISC 16 based |
| 13:42:28 | amiconn | The Gmini 400 is not |
| 13:42:36 | B4gder | this 202 seems new |
| 13:42:45 | B4gder | might be a 400 relative |
| 13:42:55 | amiconn | Sounds like a brus´hed-up version of the XS200 then |
| 13:43:10 | Bger | an extremely small 20GB1 hard-drive-based audio PlaysForSureâ„¢ (download) player with a competitive low price. |
| 13:44:02 | Bger | this f*cking DRM stuff... |
| 13:45:31 | amiconn | 10000 songs on a 20 GB disk, hahahaha |
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| 13:46:24 | Bger | there is note on the bottom of the page |
| 13:46:29 | Bger | |
| 13:46:30 | Bger | 1 On average. Music capacity based on 3.5 minutes per song and 64 kbps WMA encoding. For better quality 128 Kbit/s encoding or more recommended. |
| 13:47:45 | B4gder | "you can't stand the quality, but then you can fit 10000 songs on it" |
| 13:48:01 | B4gder | :-P |
| 13:48:02 | Bger | you can fit even more ... |
| 13:48:05 | Bger | :) |
| 13:48:10 | Bger | MPEG 2.5 :) |
| 13:48:14 | Bger | 8kHz :) |
| 13:48:48 | Bger | and mono |
| 13:50:03 | Lynx_ | 10000 is such a nice round number... |
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| 13:53:16 | * | ac is looking for a very small screw driver to open the iaudio |
| 13:53:55 | Bger | the iaudio u've just bought ? ;) |
| 13:54:21 | ac | ohh yeah ;) |
| 13:55:06 | Bger | *this* is what i call impatience;) |
| 13:56:10 | B4gder | aiminig for a new porting-rockbox-in-shortest-time-period record? |
| 13:56:14 | B4gder | ;) |
| 13:56:18 | ac | maybe |
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| 13:58:01 | amiconn | ac: You would have to beat 1 month (approximately) |
| 13:58:15 | ac | 1 month? |
| 13:58:18 | ac | who? |
| 13:58:31 | B4gder | the ondio port |
| 13:58:47 | amiconn | Currently [IDC]Dragon and me are holding LinusN's "rockbox speed porting award" for porting to the Ondio |
| 13:58:47 | Bger | amiconn :)) |
| 13:59:25 | B4gder | but you were two so ac could get 2 months ;-) |
| 13:59:48 | amiconn | Yes, but we ported to 2 different models as well (Ondio FM and Ondio SP) |
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| 14:00:24 | Bger | hm am i wrong or austriancoder wants to port rockbox to iaudio x5 too |
| 14:00:29 | amiconn | The MMC driver is the same for both, but the FM required to implement the Philips radio driver, and the SP the different MAS |
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| 14:01:06 | B4gder | we have to call in a jury ;-) |
| 14:01:17 | ac | Bger: who wants to port too? |
| 14:01:26 | B4gder | Bger: ac is austriancoder |
| 14:01:33 | ac | *g* |
| 14:01:47 | Bger | hah :) |
| 14:01:50 | Bger | sorry |
| 14:01:59 | Bger | stupid me |
| 14:02:52 | Bger | ac what did happen with your code for h100's fm radio ? |
| 14:06:58 | ac | was on my other pc: hdd head crash -> data lost -> want to rewrite it |
| 14:07:20 | Bger | bad :( |
| 14:07:53 | Bger | your el. devices hate you... |
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| 14:22:12 | elinenbe | is there any sort of charge protection on the iriver? |
| 14:22:31 | elinenbe | i plugged a 2A 5V charger into it by accident, and now this morning it would not turn on. |
| 14:22:37 | elinenbe | i think i killed it. |
| 14:22:52 | Bger | was it with center + ? |
| 14:22:56 | B4gder | it is indeed possible to kill it |
| 14:23:04 | elinenbe | didn't have time to check the polarity |
| 14:23:36 | elinenbe | went to grab my player this morning and noticed that it would not turn on after a night of charging... i had plugged it into my satellite radio jack by accident |
| 14:23:37 | elinenbe | ug... |
| 14:23:52 | Bger | :( |
| 14:28:49 | pill | did you try plugging the real adapter to see if the green light turned on? |
| 14:29:22 | LinusN | elinenbe: your player is most likely fried |
| 14:29:36 | elinenbe | LinusN: that is what I am afraid of. |
| 14:29:51 | elinenbe | the green light DOES turn on with the regular charger though... |
| 14:29:56 | pill | ah |
| 14:29:58 | elinenbe | is that any consoliation? |
| 14:30:23 | elinenbe | although I didn't bring it to work today because I didn't think it would do me any good. |
| 14:30:29 | LinusN | the high voltage damages the voltage regulator circuit, giving the cpu and flash a too high voltage, frying them to the point of no repair |
| 14:30:54 | pill | :( |
| 14:30:57 | LinusN | i have done post-mortem analysis of two such victims |
| 14:31:16 | pill | linus hardware forensics analyst |
| 14:31:17 | elinenbe | LinusN: so the fact that the charging light comes on means nothing? |
| 14:31:18 | pill | :> |
| 14:31:33 | LinusN | elinenbe: no, that part of the circuitry is not damaged |
| 14:31:37 | elinenbe | ah... |
| 14:31:40 | elinenbe | great! :( |
| 14:31:55 | pill | well, the battery and hdd may be good for resell though |
| 14:31:57 | LinusN | sorry to be the bearer of bad news |
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| 14:35:07 | Bger | it's so stupid h1xx's been so easy fried |
| 14:35:15 | Bger | being |
| 14:35:16 | elinenbe | it's okay. |
| 14:35:19 | Yokalosh | yo amiconn..... was it you that i was supposed to be doing the red light death thing for? |
| 14:35:29 | elinenbe | it is still under warranty, so we'll see what happens! |
| 14:35:39 | Yokalosh | cos after using a daily build i am still getting it these days |
| 14:35:42 | ac | its not easy to open the iaudio without demange something |
| 14:36:46 | Yokalosh | and also, my jbr10 seems to have a habbit of deleting random mp3s |
| 14:36:54 | Yokalosh | i lost my kasabian album :( |
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| 14:37:22 | Yokalosh | got any ideas of what is wrong anyone? |
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| 14:38:29 | Yokalosh | yes? no? |
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| 14:38:48 | Yokalosh | no? yes? |
| 14:38:49 | Yokalosh | ;) |
| 14:38:55 | elinenbe | LinusN: if it can't be replaced, I'll send it over your way! :) |
| 14:39:41 | LinusN | wonderful! |
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| 14:40:20 | LinusN | Yokalosh: strange |
| 14:40:37 | LinusN | Yokalosh: have you flashed it? |
| 14:40:38 | amiconn | Yokalosh: Are you sure that you still get RLD? Because, it's normal that a retry may take a while, even a minute or so when battery is low and the retry can't be successful |
| 14:40:55 | Yokalosh | it is flashed |
| 14:41:00 | Yokalosh | and yes i still get rld |
| 14:41:09 | amiconn | RLD means the player is frozen forever until you power down forcibly |
| 14:41:15 | Yokalosh | mainly when the player is jigging bout in my pocket when i am walking |
| 14:41:15 | * | ac likes the ui of the iaudio |
| 14:41:29 | Yokalosh | amiconn: yeh i have to hold the off button |
| 14:41:37 | Yokalosh | or take out the batteries |
| 14:42:21 | amiconn | This is really strange... |
| 14:42:27 | Yokalosh | indeed it is |
| 14:42:34 | LinusN | Yokalosh: and you did reflash the daily build? |
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| 14:42:46 | Yokalosh | yes i reflashed the daily build |
| 14:42:59 | amiconn | I had RLD on my player (dreaded Hitcahi DK23CA), and the reason was pretty clear |
| 14:43:21 | Yokalosh | maybe the hdd is just buggered, it wud also solve the dataloss problem ;) |
| 14:43:30 | Yokalosh | and also wht was your obvious problem? |
| 14:43:38 | amiconn | Linus added a workaroud to the old code, which intended to retry after a timeout, but that didn't work due to a mutex deadlock |
| 14:43:51 | Yokalosh | ooOOoo |
| 14:44:00 | amiconn | I resolved that, and don't get RLD any more |
| 14:44:07 | Yokalosh | gdo |
| 14:44:17 | Yokalosh | wanna take a look at my jbr10 ;) |
| 14:45:07 | amiconn | It still happens that the red led comes up for even more than a minute, when the battery gets so low that the disk is unable to spin up, but it will stop retrying sooner or later |
| 14:45:39 | Yokalosh | yeh |
| 14:45:44 | Yokalosh | but this is on a fuill battery |
| 14:45:58 | amiconn | In all other cases that triggered RLD before, like shaking te player while rebuffering, it recovers just fine |
| 14:46:11 | Yokalosh | hrmph |
| 14:48:26 | Yokalosh | so what do you think i should do? you are the pros |
| 14:49:25 | Yokalosh | just out of interest, what would be a better hd to put in my jbr10? |
| 14:50:47 | B4gder | any 4200rpm one |
| 14:51:14 | Yokalosh | for example? |
| 14:51:29 | amiconn | Perhaps there is a problem with the filesystem. I'd suggest running chkdsk |
| 14:51:40 | Yokalosh | i just reformatted it in linux |
| 14:51:46 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 14:51:46 | Yokalosh | anyways |
| 14:51:48 | ac | need to go now.. |
| 14:51:51 | ac | see you later |
| 14:51:54 | Yokalosh | talk to you when i get home from skool |
| 14:51:55 | Yokalosh | bye |
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| 15:11:40 | ]RowaN[ | i got bored and had a stab at a crappy 4color logo for rockbox www.copymaster.co.uk/test.gif =] |
| 15:12:05 | B4gder | wooo |
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| 15:18:48 | shawn | Howdy guys. |
| 15:18:50 | shawn | oops |
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| 15:21:50 | HCl | gmorning |
| 15:24:44 | | Part Nibbler ("Leaving") |
| 15:26:59 | ]RowaN[ | arg, ive tried 3 places selling the 30gig iriver hd and all are out of stock |
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| 15:40:52 | godzirra | How much is the 30gig? |
| 15:41:38 | ]RowaN[ | 114 euro in most places |
| 15:41:51 | godzirra | Hrm. not sure how much that is in USD |
| 15:41:58 | godzirra | probably more than I'm willing to spend, since I havent filled my 20 gig yet. |
| 15:42:00 | ]RowaN[ | + between 12 and 29 euros shipping |
| 15:42:10 | ]RowaN[ | 1 euro = 1 dollar approx, i think |
| 15:42:37 | godzirra | Ok.. then yeah... 114 bucks is more than I'm willing to spend :) |
| 15:42:37 | ]RowaN[ | 1 euro = 1.19465 USD |
| 15:43:15 | ]RowaN[ | im not willing, im buying one against my will, coz i dropped my 20giger |
| 15:43:42 | ]RowaN[ | p.s. www.xe.com great for converting money =] |
| 15:44:36 | godzirra | Ick.. that sucks |
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| 15:51:38 | ]RowaN[ | iriver case should have some kind of hole for a strap like cameras do |
| 15:55:44 | HCl | muesli asks whether anyone has a problem with the last build that it boots the original firmware on iriver |
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| 15:58:19 | BlackRiver | hi eveybody |
| 15:58:27 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Hey Rowan, what color values did you use for the greyscale? |
| 15:58:47 | BlackRiver | can some one help me i have a qustion.. |
| 15:58:56 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Ask away |
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| 16:00:15 | BlackRiver | there will be an rockbox for iriver h300? |
| 16:00:41 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Not for a long time |
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| 16:01:12 | BlackRiver | and why is this? |
| 16:01:16 | DJ_Dooms_Day | I'm pretty sure its in the pipeline though |
| 16:01:40 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Because they first have to finish up the rockbox for the H1xx series |
| 16:01:56 | DJ_Dooms_Day | From there they can make the changes nesessary to have it work on the H3xx series |
| 16:02:04 | BlackRiver | ohh.... cuse i really want a rockbox on my h340 |
| 16:02:39 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Well, you'll be waiting awhile. |
| 16:02:50 | BlackRiver | lol... |
| 16:02:59 | BlackRiver | what a player you got? |
| 16:03:04 | DJ_Dooms_Day | H140 |
| 16:03:09 | BlackRiver | nice |
| 16:03:16 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Yeah, i love it :D |
| 16:03:26 | BlackRiver | yeah is great lokking |
| 16:03:31 | BlackRiver | looking* |
| 16:03:35 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ...not in a literial sence, but you know what i mean :P |
| 16:03:47 | BlackRiver | where are you from? |
| 16:03:51 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Aussie |
| 16:03:52 | DJ_Dooms_Day | You? |
| 16:04:06 | BlackRiver | israel |
| 16:04:12 | BlackRiver | where is aussie? |
| 16:04:37 | DJ_Dooms_Day | victoria, downing on the mornington peninsula |
| 16:04:48 | DJ_Dooms_Day | *down |
| 16:05:00 | BlackRiver | cool |
| 16:06:33 | DJ_Dooms_Day | You have any coding ability? |
| 16:06:57 | BlackRiver | not really... im only 15..(small endid) |
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| 16:14:26 | Febs | BlackRiver: the iriver Rockbox FAQ contains a section about Rockbox for the H300 series: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFAQ |
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| 16:34:28 | * | LinusN catches the digital flow with rockbox on his H110 |
| 16:34:58 | LinusN | Buffer: 14.558MB |
| 16:35:02 | amiconn | Congratulations! :) |
| 16:35:30 | amiconn | Was there really only the RAM size that differs? |
| 16:35:40 | LinusN | so far yes |
| 16:36:08 | amiconn | Loaded via BDM, or? |
| 16:36:42 | LinusN | nope |
| 16:36:58 | LinusN | i didn't bother connecting the bdm |
| 16:38:14 | amiconn | So there already is a bootloader and firmware patcher? |
| 16:38:20 | LinusN | no patcher |
| 16:38:59 | amiconn | How did you load the bootloader then? |
| 16:39:19 | LinusN | i patched it with mkboot |
| 16:39:49 | LinusN | "the hard way" |
| 16:40:22 | amiconn | No adjustment to the different iriver firmware required? |
| 16:40:33 | LinusN | no |
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| 16:42:03 | amiconn | Adapting fwpatcher should be easy then. The md5 must be added, and the md5 sums should be validated by platform, to inject the right bootloader |
| 16:42:13 | LinusN | yup |
| 16:42:21 | amiconn | Is there a platform id in the bootloader? |
| 16:42:55 | * | amiconn still uses bootloader v1 |
| 16:43:30 | LinusN | platform id? |
| 16:44:14 | amiconn | Indicating iHP100, H120/H140, etc |
| 16:44:28 | LinusN | the rockbox.iriver image has a model id |
| 16:44:38 | LinusN | and the checksum includes it |
| 16:44:48 | LinusN | so you can't load the wrong image by mistake |
| 16:45:02 | amiconn | Yes. I mean the bootloader... |
| 16:45:40 | Febs | Just yesterday I rewrote the iriver FAQ to make sure that it distinguished between the H110 and the H120/140! And already it's outdated! :) |
| 16:45:44 | amiconn | What if you inject a H120 bootloader into iHP100 iriver firmware and then flash that into the iHP100? |
| 16:45:44 | LinusN | no, you are perfectly able to patch a H120 loader with H100 firmware |
| 16:46:06 | LinusN | then the bootloader will crash |
| 16:46:39 | amiconn | Thought so. That means this situation must be prevented |
| 16:46:44 | LinusN | and you'll have to reset twice to start the iriginal |
| 16:46:47 | LinusN | originaöl |
| 16:46:49 | LinusN | vmjnfdöklbvs |
| 16:46:54 | pill | :) |
| 16:47:21 | amiconn | LinusN: The cookie mechanism will work even on the wrong model? |
| 16:47:21 | LinusN | so it will not be bricked if you install the h120 loader by mistake |
| 16:47:25 | LinusN | yes |
| 16:47:31 | LinusN | (i tried) |
| 16:47:47 | LinusN | the cookie is in iram |
| 16:47:50 | * | amiconn wonders why the cookie mechanism will work, but not the rest of the loader |
| 16:47:54 | amiconn | Ah |
| 16:48:17 | amiconn | The execution address of the loader is the same? |
| 16:48:25 | LinusN | yes |
| 16:49:10 | amiconn | Then all is fine. I guess the other possibiliy to misflash will work the same way |
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| 16:49:30 | amiconn | (install iHP100 loader on a H120/H140) |
| 16:49:37 | LinusN | i'm glad that i made the cookie mechanism, it saved me today on my first h110 bootloader version |
| 16:50:05 | LinusN | though i wouldn't have tried without it |
| 16:50:20 | amiconn | Otherwise you would have had to install the BDM |
| 16:50:27 | amiconn | At least you have one... |
| 16:50:31 | LinusN | yeah |
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| 17:02:53 | HCl | mhm |
| 17:03:21 | HCl | nice to see you working on more bootloaders :) |
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| 17:11:42 | LinusN | ok, so it's time to release a new boot loader |
| 17:12:25 | LinusN | i wonder if we should remove the "start original with remote" feature |
| 17:12:57 | amiconn | I vote for it |
| 17:13:03 | LinusN | me too |
| 17:13:52 | amiconn | I'll flash a new boot loader if it contains that change. |
| 17:14:10 | amiconn | The new bootloader will then also contain the refresh cycle fix, right? |
| 17:14:25 | LinusN | you should definitely have flashed the v2 loader long ago, imho |
| 17:14:33 | amiconn | Hmm, why? |
| 17:14:46 | LinusN | because it contains the usb handling |
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| 17:14:50 | amiconn | Afair the only change was the HD power being off by default |
| 17:14:58 | amiconn | v1 does already conatin USB |
| 17:15:07 | LinusN | it does? hmmm |
| 17:15:15 | LinusN | ah yes |
| 17:15:25 | amiconn | ...and the HD power thing doesn't bother me, as I never use hold |
| 17:16:24 | LinusN | ok, so i'll prepare a v3 boot loader this weekend |
| 17:16:34 | LinusN | with the remote feature removed |
| 17:16:41 | amiconn | ...so booting with v1 is even a tiny bit faster than with v2 |
| 17:16:56 | LinusN | hehe |
| 17:17:32 | LinusN | btw, are the flash screens using the darkest gray shade? |
| 17:17:43 | LinusN | splash |
| 17:17:47 | amiconn | No, they use the lighter one of the 2 |
| 17:18:00 | LinusN | ok |
| 17:18:48 | amiconn | It seems the brightness curve is non-linear, I even used the slightly lighter shades compared to the 'ideal' values |
| 17:18:54 | elinenbe | LinusN: my h120 is completly dead, but they are replacing it... I got lucky |
| 17:19:03 | LinusN | phew |
| 17:19:09 | amiconn | The LCD allows to set shades of 0..7, 0=white and 7=black |
| 17:19:15 | elinenbe | LinusN: no kidding... they are hard to get ahold of now... |
| 17:19:36 | amiconn | So, the theoretical intermediates would be 2.333 and 4.667 |
| 17:19:41 | amiconn | I used 2 and 4 |
| 17:19:52 | elinenbe | LinusN: can you detect voltage through software? |
| 17:19:55 | Rick | shades? |
| 17:20:07 | Rick | are we talking about h120? |
| 17:20:14 | amiconn | yup |
| 17:20:19 | LinusN | elinenbe: huh? |
| 17:20:19 | Rick | ah |
| 17:20:25 | Rick | rockbox has grayscale in cvs now? |
| 17:20:34 | amiconn | yup |
| 17:20:37 | Rick | excellent |
| 17:20:48 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Amiconn - I want to make some greyscale splash screens and WPS graphics and whatnot, but no one seems to know what the exact values are for the shades of grey to use in the bmp. Do you know? |
| 17:21:27 | Rick | that would depend on the bmp2rb (I think), right? |
| 17:21:33 | amiconn | The bmp loader for wps doesn't support greyscale yet |
| 17:21:38 | Rick | ah |
| 17:22:28 | elinenbe | LinusN: you know how I destroyed my device? is there any way to prevent that through software? |
| 17:22:31 | amiconn | DJ_Dooms_Day: Simply use the linear intermediates, because that's what the core approximates |
| 17:22:41 | LinusN | elinenbe: not a chance |
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| 17:22:53 | LinusN | the firmware isn't even running |
| 17:22:59 | Rick | (how did elinenbe destroy it?) |
| 17:23:10 | LinusN | Rick: too high charger voltage |
| 17:23:30 | amiconn | DJ_Dooms_Day: In html color values: #000000, #555555, #AAAAAA and #FFFFFF |
| 17:23:39 | Rick | ah |
| 17:23:40 | elinenbe | Rick: wrong charger... |
| 17:23:43 | Rick | ouch |
| 17:23:44 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ah, thanks, thats what i was after |
| 17:23:52 | elinenbe | Rick: smae exact plug... but it was for my satellite radio. |
| 17:23:54 | amiconn | elinenbe: Didn't you say 5 volts? |
| 17:23:57 | Rick | ahh |
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| 17:24:22 | amiconn | Hmm, either it was unregulated 5 volts, or wrong polarity |
| 17:24:43 | Rick | elinenbe: did it like, start smoking or something? :O |
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| 17:27:09 | elinenbe | Rick: nope... charged all night (looked normal so i thought) |
| 17:27:26 | elinenbe | yeah −− 5 volts 2 amp charger |
| 17:27:39 | elinenbe | tried to turn it on and then realized my ways. |
| 17:27:47 | elinenbe | although the satellite radio worked fine with my charger. |
| 17:27:53 | elinenbe | with the iriver charger! |
| 17:28:10 | Rick | that's gotta suck |
| 17:28:10 | amiconn | LinusN: What about the MFDR(2) values? |
| 17:28:25 | Rick | elinenbe: were you able to recover the hd? |
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| 17:29:03 | LinusN | amiconn: will try them as soon as i find the time to connect the logic analyzer |
| 17:29:14 | amiconn | Ok. |
| 17:29:26 | amiconn | Hmm, I wonder why you chose a different RAM start address... |
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| 17:35:52 | guyg | Does anyone know if there's an equivalent function to mas_codec_readreg() for the iRiver? So that I could write some visualisation stuff? |
| 17:41:15 | LinusN | amiconn: me too :-) |
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| 19:24:55 | HCl | i'm bored... |
| 19:25:01 | Coldtoast | get a wig |
| 19:25:21 | HCl | i don't have to |
| 19:25:39 | Coldtoast | heh |
| 19:26:02 | HCl | hrm. |
| 19:26:07 | HCl | crappy windows malfunctioning.. |
| 19:26:44 | Coldtoast | my new battery finished charging |
| 19:26:58 | Coldtoast | left it for about 8hrs |
| 19:28:55 | HCl | hm |
| 19:28:56 | HCl | odd. |
| 19:29:05 | HCl | windows started working again halfway through shutting down |
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| 20:08:07 | yokalosh | hey |
| 20:08:22 | yokalosh | amiconn |
| 20:08:28 | yokalosh | we were talking earlier |
| 20:08:48 | yokalosh | about RLD on my JBR10 |
| 20:11:27 | yokalosh | do you have any ideas yet of what was wrong? i cant remember where we where with out convo |
| 20:11:32 | yokalosh | *our |
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| 20:37:24 | MIKE- | anyone got any links to some ch8 games? |
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| 21:30:03 | Chamois | domz : pm |
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| 21:32:18 | webguest99 | cool |
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| 21:33:37 | Coldtoast | what's cool? other than the temperature here? |
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| 21:37:37 | * | HCl goes to read the forums o.o; |
| 21:37:59 | WaT | anyone alive? |
| 21:38:18 | Coldtoast | yup |
| 21:38:26 | WaT | do you develop for rockbox? |
| 21:38:30 | Coldtoast | nah |
| 21:38:55 | WaT | oh, i'd like to but it seems too complicated to compile |
| 21:40:45 | HCl | how so? |
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| 21:45:52 | crashd | evening wintermute |
| 21:46:10 | crashd | was wondering if u were in london yesterday |
| 21:46:12 | crashd | but had no way to check |
| 21:46:50 | wintermute | If you're referring to me, thanks for the concern, but I live stateside. |
| 21:46:56 | crashd | really? |
| 21:47:01 | crashd | i was totally under the impression u lived in nodnol |
| 21:47:04 | crashd | ol |
| 21:47:09 | wintermute | I think you're thinking of someone else. |
| 21:47:13 | crashd | possibly dude |
| 21:47:15 | crashd | possibly |
| 21:47:17 | HCl | gee. |
| 21:47:18 | wintermute | But I'll take what I can get. ;) |
| 21:47:22 | crashd | hehe |
| 21:47:26 | HCl | i implement song rating, playcount, and a new database |
| 21:47:33 | HCl | and suddenly i have a whole userbase i need to helpdesk for |
| 21:47:34 | HCl | lol. |
| 21:47:48 | * | HCl starts replying on the forums :| |
| 21:48:09 | Cassandra | It's great. Implement a feature and everyone goes. "And can I have it with chocolate sprinkles on top?" |
| 21:48:17 | wintermute | I suppose, one of these days, I should get around to newbsitting.. |
| 21:48:37 | WaT | I know java pretty well, will I be able to contribute coding wise? |
| 21:49:02 | HCl | WaT: maybe with the database generator.. |
| 21:49:07 | HCl | do you know anything about music tags? |
| 21:49:20 | WaT | no i don't, but i could learn |
| 21:49:32 | HCl | i could use a good backend for reading, writing, and getting the offsets of the actual music data badly |
| 21:49:35 | HCl | in java |
| 21:49:45 | HCl | at the moment i use like... 3 different backends |
| 21:50:13 | * | wintermute spouts madeup tech jargon in an effort to help |
| 21:50:33 | WaT | I just discovered rockbox yesterday, tried setting up compiling environment with no luck |
| 21:50:49 | WaT | if you could explain on where to start i'd give it a shot |
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| 21:52:15 | wintermute | WaT: If you're having trouble with setting up a Cygwin environment, then there's a good page on the Rockbox Wiki that should help. |
| 21:53:15 | wintermute | Quick masochistic question: do BMP WPSs work on the FMR? ;D |
| 21:53:57 | HCl | WaT: mmm, there's a wiki page on how to set it up.. what kind of player do you have? |
| 21:54:06 | WaT | iRiver ihp120 |
| 21:54:29 | wintermute | CygwinDevelopment covers the iRiver targets, I believe. |
| 21:54:37 | WaT | yea i messed around with it last night but got lost trying to build the cross compiler - i'll give it another shot thsi weekend |
| 21:56:07 | wintermute | Build the cross-compiler? I was under the impression that it downloaded/installed pre-built binaries. |
| 21:56:45 | HCl | well |
| 21:56:51 | HCl | the wiki says to build it yourself |
| 21:56:56 | HCl | but i got a precompiled one off someone too |
| 21:56:59 | HCl | i can dcc if people want to |
| 21:57:01 | WaT | "WARNING These versions do not work correctly to build current rockbox code. You are strongly advised to build your own CrossCompiler instead.. It will fail when it reaches dumb, as preglow so eloquently put it in irc "dumb will vomit". "cygwin doesn't like us these days".. |
| 21:57:09 | HCl | heh |
| 21:57:09 | HCl | o.o |
| 21:57:17 | HCl | want me to dcc you a crosscompiler? |
| 21:57:18 | HCl | x86 linux |
| 21:57:27 | WaT | i'm at work right now |
| 21:57:36 | HCl | mk |
| 21:58:51 | HCl | heh. |
| 21:59:05 | HCl | scary if you see what end users have made already with t0mas' wps image patch |
| 21:59:22 | * | HCl waits for an end user to make him a nice wps :P |
| 21:59:33 | Coldtoast | I like my WPS |
| 21:59:54 | HCl | at the moment i took one of the wiki and added playcount and rating |
| 21:59:57 | HCl | but it glitches |
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| 22:00:00 | HCl | so i need a better one |
| 22:00:06 | Coldtoast | http://www.3dluvr.com/edan/tmp/WPS.jpg is mine |
| 22:00:11 | Coldtoast | simple one |
| 22:00:18 | HCl | not bad |
| 22:00:27 | HCl | i like to know upcoming too though |
| 22:00:37 | Coldtoast | I have upcoming |
| 22:00:44 | Coldtoast | Next Track |
| 22:01:01 | HCl | oh |
| 22:01:01 | HCl | right |
| 22:01:09 | HCl | not bad |
| 22:01:14 | Coldtoast | I'll do something different with greyscale is in |
| 22:01:16 | HCl | got it online somewhere? |
| 22:01:20 | HCl | mhm. |
| 22:01:23 | HCl | add playcount and rating :P |
| 22:01:29 | Coldtoast | http://www.3dluvr.com/edan/tmp/edan.zip |
| 22:01:32 | HCl | k |
| 22:01:34 | Coldtoast | there's loads of room to add stuff |
| 22:01:59 | WaT | any idea when greyscale is expected to work? |
| 22:02:44 | HCl | lmao. |
| 22:02:54 | HCl | export/config-h100.h:2:2: #error "re-run configure this just so wrong" |
| 22:03:06 | HCl | WaT: should be working already, as far as i understand |
| 22:03:09 | HCl | amiconn works on it |
| 22:03:30 | WaT | for wps? |
| 22:03:40 | HCl | oh |
| 22:03:42 | HCl | dunno |
| 22:03:49 | HCl | i think he might be working on that too |
| 22:03:59 | HCl | not sure |
| 22:04:08 | amiconn | no |
| 22:04:09 | WaT | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=872.0;id=97;image |
| 22:04:13 | HCl | k |
| 22:04:16 | WaT | top left is my new one |
| 22:04:25 | WaT | that I use... not made |
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| 22:05:18 | HCl | can't see it, don't have an account on the rockbox forums yet.. |
| 22:05:24 | WaT | oh |
| 22:05:27 | HCl | just registered for misticriver so i could answer there a bit |
| 22:05:47 | WaT | gotcha |
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| 22:09:19 | HCl | i need to prod markun about how he did replaygain |
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| 22:14:37 | thegeek | what is the default font? |
| 22:14:49 | HCl | dunno |
| 22:15:04 | thegeek | hmm |
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| 22:40:01 | sfried | quick question on iriver rockbox codec |
| 22:40:09 | sfried | hello? |
| 22:40:19 | HCl | mm? |
| 22:40:36 | sfried | Is there a codec for WMA someplace? |
| 22:40:55 | HCl | not for rockbox |
| 22:41:12 | HCl | and no one is really keen on making it either, most developers, including me, hate wma |
| 22:41:18 | HCl | on top of that |
| 22:41:24 | HCl | there is no fixed point implementation of a wma decoder |
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| 22:42:05 | sfried | I understand that there is a way to go back and forth from rockbox to the old configuration. We have the H120 |
| 22:42:11 | sfried | How do I do that? |
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| 22:42:59 | sfried | hello? |
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| 22:43:12 | HCl | you mean boot the original firmware? |
| 22:43:16 | HCl | have some patience, please |
| 22:43:28 | [IDC]Dragon | hi guys |
| 22:43:40 | HCl | you can boot the original firmware by starting rockbox with the remote play button or holding record while booting |
| 22:43:43 | HCl | hi [IDC]Dragon |
| 22:43:45 | sfried | I understand there is a sequece of keys that will switch back to old config? |
| 22:44:21 | [IDC]Dragon | does anybody have an idea how to reverse engineer a CRC, given a bunch of data/CRC pairs? |
| 22:44:49 | HCl | sfried: what do you mean with old configuration. |
| 22:45:01 | HCl | [IDC]Dragon: um. as far as i know its designed so you can't |
| 22:45:24 | [IDC]Dragon | a CRC is no hash |
| 22:45:48 | sfried | Cool, thank you |
| 22:47:25 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Try all possible CRC algorithms by brute force |
| 22:47:51 | bill20r3 | maybe you could, if the source data is small enough |
| 22:48:16 | [IDC]Dragon | that's what I was thinking as a last resort |
| 22:48:42 | [IDC]Dragon | the data is about 5 bytes |
| 22:48:49 | bill20r3 | uh |
| 22:48:50 | [IDC]Dragon | the CRC is 16 bit |
| 22:48:53 | bill20r3 | paste me a pair |
| 22:49:42 | [IDC]Dragon | e.g. 00 01 02 06 FC |
| 22:49:58 | [IDC]Dragon | 3 bytes payload, 2 bytes checksum |
| 22:50:19 | [IDC]Dragon | preparing more |
| 22:50:49 | sfried | thank u guys so much- |
| 22:51:03 | sfried | that was my buddy helping me and he is a bit pushy |
| 22:51:08 | sfried | appreciate the help |
| 22:51:17 | HCl | np |
| 22:51:48 | sfried | well, i know your feeling re: WMA, so do you even use the orig config or do you just use other formats? |
| 22:52:05 | sfried | if i want to play stuff ripped from disc what do u suggest? |
| 22:53:22 | HCl | well |
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| 22:53:31 | HCl | last time i tried to actually use rockbox as an end user |
| 22:53:35 | HCl | it crashed like 3 times |
| 22:53:43 | HCl | i also think there are some bugs left with my runtime database |
| 22:53:51 | HCl | and i also like to have radio |
| 22:53:52 | Coldtoast | it's been quite stable lately |
| 22:53:53 | * | amiconn goes to test bootbox |
| 22:53:55 | HCl | so i used the original firmware |
| 22:54:03 | sfried | thnx |
| 22:54:12 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Anything special I should check, apart from the remarks in the wiki? |
| 22:54:27 | sfried | so you would suggest using orig rather than decoding to other formats? |
| 22:54:45 | HCl | it depends on your needs, really. |
| 22:54:50 | sfried | i mainly wanted rockbox for live playback (gaples) |
| 22:54:53 | HCl | but rockbox for iriver is still unofficial |
| 22:55:00 | HCl | but it should be stable enough |
| 22:55:11 | sfried | i guess i could toggle between disc rips and stuff that needs gapless playback |
| 22:55:14 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: there are almost no feature |
| 22:55:18 | [IDC]Dragon | s |
| 22:55:44 | amiconn | Yeah. I mean, any special conditions, like having an MMC plugged at startup or such |
| 22:55:59 | Coldtoast | hey. is FLAC playback godo now? |
| 22:56:04 | Coldtoast | godo=good |
| 22:56:13 | [IDC]Dragon | plugging should still work, yes |
| 22:56:17 | sfried | what bit rate does everyone genarally use? |
| 22:56:33 | sfried | is 128 too low in your opinion? or cant tell w earbuds? |
| 22:56:41 | Coldtoast | heh. I use 320kbit for MP3 and 500kbit for ogg |
| 22:56:47 | Coldtoast | depends tho |
| 22:56:49 | sfried | ok, cool |
| 22:57:00 | HCl | 128 / 192 for me |
| 22:57:01 | Coldtoast | I really only have one thing at that quality |
| 22:57:06 | HCl | i can tell the difference between those |
| 22:57:09 | HCl | but not beyond 192 |
| 22:57:10 | Coldtoast | 128 sounds too horrible |
| 22:57:11 | sfried | dumb q here..i downloaded some files that the bitrate fluctuates, what is that? |
| 22:57:18 | HCl | vbr |
| 22:57:46 | sfried | so HC1 - u say you do not go over 192? |
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| 22:57:56 | HCl | i say i can't tell the difference |
| 22:58:04 | sfried | ok, thnx |
| 22:58:13 | HCl | thats a whole different thing |
| 22:58:13 | sfried | anyone use their player for Grateful Dead shows? |
| 22:58:14 | HCl | heh |
| 22:58:38 | sfried | i want to use rockbox for gapless playback, but each show in .WAV is > 1G |
| 22:58:52 | wintermute | See you all later. |
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| 22:59:04 | bill20r3 | Dragon, what are those crc's of? |
| 22:59:24 | Coldtoast | if you want good gapless, use OGG to encode them |
| 22:59:31 | sfried | so not sure how low bitrate i want to go, but would love to load it up..any suggestions? |
| 22:59:36 | sfried | thanks |
| 22:59:55 | sfried | you wrre helping me last week Coldtoast |
| 22:59:59 | sfried | under a diff name |
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| 23:00:07 | Coldtoast | oh? ok |
| 23:00:09 | sfried | I told you I was not a westie!! |
| 23:00:19 | Coldtoast | aaah. heh. I remember |
| 23:00:25 | sfried | i got my player and my buddy just hooked me up w the rockbox |
| 23:00:29 | sfried | thanks!! |
| 23:00:43 | Coldtoast | np :) |
| 23:00:46 | sfried | i copied your instructions and used them,.i was worried to do it, so had him do it |
| 23:00:49 | Coldtoast | have you had much of a play yet? |
| 23:01:11 | sfried | nah, just got it set up and realized it didnt have WMA codec so came in here for suggestions |
| 23:01:20 | Coldtoast | aah |
| 23:01:31 | sfried | so i guess i'll use orig config for that or just decode to another format |
| 23:01:44 | sfried | needed to know how to get back to orig config |
| 23:01:50 | sfried | HC helped me |
| 23:01:50 | Coldtoast | yeah. nice to have the option to do it :) |
| 23:02:14 | sfried | would u decode to another format or just use the WMA on orig iRiver firmware |
| 23:02:15 | sfried | ? |
| 23:02:15 | Coldtoast | I upgraded the battery in my h140 today |
| 23:02:27 | Coldtoast | use WMA |
| 23:02:31 | Coldtoast | never transcode |
| 23:02:40 | sfried | what do u mean |
| 23:02:42 | sfried | ? |
| 23:02:47 | Coldtoast | you're compressing somethign that's already been compressed |
| 23:02:48 | sfried | try to change formats? |
| 23:03:12 | Coldtoast | I wouldn't personally |
| 23:03:20 | sfried | ok, so stick w iriver firmware if i want to just play regular commercial discs that have been ripped? |
| 23:03:32 | HCl | no |
| 23:03:35 | HCl | just rip them to ogg |
| 23:03:35 | Coldtoast | yeah. and in future, don't encode as WMA |
| 23:03:35 | HCl | heh |
| 23:03:45 | Coldtoast | actually |
| 23:03:50 | Coldtoast | conver them to FLAC |
| 23:03:50 | sfried | what prog to do that? |
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| 23:03:56 | sfried | what program? |
| 23:04:14 | Coldtoast | FLAC is lossless so theoretically, converting WMA to FLAC would be ok |
| 23:04:35 | sfried | i just used window media player as was just testing out and it ripped as wma - no other options |
| 23:04:45 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Bootbox is working on Ondio SP. About to test player... |
| 23:04:47 | Coldtoast | why are you using that thing? heh |
| 23:04:51 | Coldtoast | use EAC |
| 23:04:51 | amiconn | I found a problem though: |
| 23:04:54 | Coldtoast | Exact Audio Copy |
| 23:04:58 | sfried | what program would u use to convert wma to flac? |
| 23:04:59 | Coldtoast | it's free |
| 23:05:06 | Coldtoast | FLACdrop maybe? |
| 23:05:07 | Febs | sfried: WMP can rip to MP3. But try Audiograbber, EAC or CDex. |
| 23:05:12 | sfried | ok, i know that one |
| 23:05:14 | amiconn | If bootbox doesn't find a firmware file, 2 messages are displayed. |
| 23:05:28 | amiconn | While these messages are displayed, it doesn't accept USB |
| 23:06:04 | amiconn | ...and it's impossible to power down |
| 23:06:08 | sfried | thanks guys..anyone use the MKW tool? |
| 23:06:28 | sfried | and rockbox has flac codec i assume? |
| 23:06:38 | Coldtoast | yup |
| 23:06:56 | Coldtoast | I'm encoding War of the Worlds as FLAC now |
| 23:06:58 | sfried | this is greatr - well, i am of to rip and set up etc..thanks again so much |
| 23:07:08 | Coldtoast | no probs |
| 23:07:29 | sfried | ill be back i am sure w some q's as i just got this setup literally seconds ago.."TIEGS" my usual name |
| 23:07:32 | sfried | thanks all |
| 23:07:41 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 23:07:43 | Coldtoast | have fun |
| 23:07:47 | sfried | ty : |
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| 23:08:15 | Coldtoast | I kinda like these "Drop" apps |
| 23:08:28 | Coldtoast | OggDrop, LameDrop, FlacDrop |
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| 23:14:03 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Same goes for player bootbox; it's working, but with the no-USB-while-displaying-message problem |
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| 23:14:46 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: hmm |
| 23:15:54 | [IDC]Dragon | will check later |
| 23:17:07 | amiconn | There is a simple way to make it accept the connection; obviously the message display waits for a button |
| 23:18:31 | amiconn | When USB is already plugged in, you can press 2 buttons to dismiss the messages, after that bootbox goes straight into USB mode |
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| 23:19:33 | [IDC]Dragon | it could do so even during the msg |
| 23:19:44 | amiconn | Yes, but it doesn't |
| 23:20:02 | [IDC]Dragon | understood |
| 23:20:02 | bill20r3 | dragon, what are those string - crc pairs from? |
| 23:20:19 | [IDC]Dragon | a network protocol |
| 23:20:33 | HCl | thought so |
| 23:20:36 | bill20r3 | which one? |
| 23:20:49 | [IDC]Dragon | it's called PHC |
| 23:21:01 | [IDC]Dragon | for home automation |
| 23:21:10 | amiconn | Any news concerning the MAS pcm codec? |
| 23:21:26 | bill20r3 | ahh |
| 23:21:29 | [IDC]Dragon | want some more? http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=43806 |
| 23:21:33 | bill20r3 | like non-sucky x-10? |
| 23:22:03 | [IDC]Dragon | X-10? is that the powerlinePIC? |
| 23:23:16 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: just got an answer today, the gesponsible guy from Micronas is back from vacation next week |
| 23:23:28 | [IDC]Dragon | ....responsible |
| 23:23:47 | amiconn | Ah... must have been a long vacation? ;) |
| 23:23:54 | [IDC]Dragon | :-/ |
| 23:24:30 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm doing all the bugging I can, believe me |
| 23:24:49 | bill20r3 | phc is all undocumented? |
| 23:25:32 | [IDC]Dragon | almost. They mention RS485, the CRC, some other bits |
| 23:25:59 | [IDC]Dragon | but the protocol itself is not disclosed, afaik |
| 23:26:58 | bill20r3 | anything after the 5th byte is crc? |
| 23:27:08 | bill20r3 | or do the field lengths vary? |
| 23:27:46 | [IDC]Dragon | they vary, the last 2 bytes is the checksum |
| 23:27:56 | bill20r3 | oh, k. |
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| 23:28:13 | [IDC]Dragon | probably little endian, but I'm not 100% sure |
| 23:28:46 | [IDC]Dragon | bill20r3: are you into such things? |
| 23:29:01 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm amazed you know x-10 |
| 23:29:42 | bill20r3 | not really |
| 23:29:52 | bill20r3 | x10 is pretty common isnt' it? |
| 23:30:10 | [IDC]Dragon | I just learned about it today |
| 23:30:24 | [IDC]Dragon | perhaps a US thing |
| 23:32:18 | [IDC]Dragon | what's the sucky part of it? |
| 23:33:44 | bill20r3 | just that it's only one-way, so you cant check to see if your command actually happened |
| 23:34:13 | [IDC]Dragon | ah. phc is ack'ing everything. |
| 23:35:17 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm close to write a program trying all 65536 CRC16 polynoms |
| 23:35:39 | [IDC]Dragon | and hope it is a CRC16 |
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| 23:41:16 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Would it be possible to let firmware_flash.rock check whether the current flash content is already a rockbox image or archos original? |
| 23:41:36 | amiconn | ...and do the rom dump if it is archos original |
| 23:42:28 | [IDC]Dragon | a new way of a united flash plugin? |
| 23:42:40 | amiconn | No, not united |
| 23:42:54 | [IDC]Dragon | or a removed debug entry |
| 23:43:17 | amiconn | ...only saving the 'dump rom' debug menu entry, and at the same time make sure that the romdump is made |
| 23:43:36 | amiconn | For, rockbox_flash.rock, we should find a way to check whether the load address of a rombox.ucl matches the flash image |
| 23:43:43 | [IDC]Dragon | for the later bootloaders, I can |
| 23:44:07 | [IDC]Dragon | they have a version byte, which is 0 on Archos |
| 23:44:28 | amiconn | When we change the load address with bootbox, people might incidentally flash an older .ucl into the new image or vice versa |
| 23:44:31 | amiconn | -> crash |
| 23:44:48 | [IDC]Dragon | checking th load adr is easy, that's already in the code |
| 23:45:05 | amiconn | It is? |
| 23:45:22 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, to set the relocate flag |
| 23:45:38 | [IDC]Dragon | iirc, /me checks |
| 23:46:02 | amiconn | I think for compressed images you're right |
| 23:46:10 | amiconn | ...but these are not the problem here |
| 23:49:51 | [IDC]Dragon | look at line 442 |
| 23:50:45 | amiconn | Yes. That checks whether the reset vector differs from the standard 0x09000000, and decides it's rombox if so |
| 23:50:52 | [IDC]Dragon | we can do some more checking here, like matching with the image address |
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| 23:51:04 | amiconn | It doesn't check whether this matches the flash destination address |
| 23:51:38 | [IDC]Dragon | but it can in future |
| 23:52:02 | [IDC]Dragon | I was telling you that the "infrastructure" exists |
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| 23:52:17 | amiconn | Hmm. Provided the reset vector is guaranteed to point directly behind the vector table, it is possible |
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| 23:52:51 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, that's the assumption |
| 23:52:54 | amiconn | Then the reset vector should be destination + 0x210 for a valid rombox image |
| 23:53:22 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, I remember vaguely |
| 23:53:40 | [IDC]Dragon | the we check for that ;-) |
| 23:53:44 | [IDC]Dragon | then |
| 23:54:04 | amiconn | ...Provided the reset vector is guaranteed to point directly behind the vector table |
| 23:54:31 | amiconn | Theoretically the reset vector could point anywhere in the code... |
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| 23:55:30 | [IDC]Dragon | sure, if we don't stick with our linking |
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