| 00:00:29 | DarkkOne | Or just use the year |
| 00:00:38 | DarkkOne | What year is abbey road? |
| 00:00:39 | susan | true dark one.,.good idea |
| 00:00:49 | DarkkOne | Since the year's a number anyway. ;-) |
| 00:00:53 | susan | right..so the early albums would be 1964 xyz |
| 00:00:56 | susan | etc..cool |
| 00:01:19 | DarkkOne | I mean, it wouldn't be perfect because if two came out in the same year, those two would be in alphabetical, but it'd be better. |
| 00:01:24 | susan | now my files arent playing..i see the folders but when i push play to open the folder i get that blank screen again |
| 00:02:32 | susan | wow..mow i pressed play and it asked for insert plalist or delet directory..i pressed playlist and it started playing..i had never had to do that befopre |
| 00:04:28 | DarkkOne | Hrm |
| 00:04:38 | DarkkOne | What file display mode is it in? |
| 00:05:47 | susan | damn..so i now see mu=y folders when i reboot..but when i hit play to open a folder i get that battery icon screen |
| 00:06:16 | susan | you mean in show files? |
| 00:06:30 | DarkkOne | Yeah |
| 00:06:36 | susan | "music" |
| 00:06:45 | DarkkOne | Hrm |
| 00:06:48 | DarkkOne | Try all supported |
| 00:06:57 | susan | ok |
| 00:08:14 | susan | there is "supported" and "all"..no "all supported" |
| 00:10:51 | DarkkOne | All |
| 00:10:58 | DarkkOne | Or maybe supported |
| 00:11:05 | DarkkOne | But I'd go with All first. |
| 00:11:10 | DarkkOne | See if things show up that way |
| 00:11:50 | susan | damn..well they show up..but when i play a song i cant skip to next..it just pauses the song |
| 00:12:01 | susan | how do i just reset all settings to default? |
| 00:12:51 | susan | i see all the file names and can scroll to one but they cant be skipped to next while one is playing..i recall seeing something like "follow playlsit"..maybe that? |
| 00:12:54 | rooomish2 | \seen rooomish |
| 00:13:24 | rooomish2 | \see rooomish |
| 00:13:56 | | Quit rooomish2 ("game is over") |
| 00:14:11 | DarkkOne | Like, how are you trying to go to another one while it's playing? |
| 00:14:32 | susan | just nudging play button to right |
| 00:14:35 | susan | from the side |
| 00:14:37 | DarkkOne | And nothing happens? |
| 00:14:42 | susan | no |
| 00:15:00 | susan | it was working fine..i just got this a week ago and have been experimenting w settings |
| 00:15:00 | DarkkOne | Dunno |
| 00:15:41 | susan | isn't there something abiout "following a playlist" |
| 00:15:55 | susan | maybe i selected that yet there isnt a playlist (??) |
| 00:16:32 | susan | how do i just restore all to default do you know? |
| 00:16:34 | DarkkOne | I'm not really sure. |
| 00:16:37 | DarkkOne | Okay, hit AB |
| 00:16:50 | DarkkOne | under Manage Settings is a reset choice |
| 00:17:02 | | Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 00:18:08 | susan | ok..cool..we'll see..i am burned out trying to set this up..haven't been able top enjoy or actually listen yet..i am also trying to write a .wps to stop scrolling but am unclear on where to put it and what/where to delete the "%" |
| 00:18:41 | DarkkOne | I think you can turn scrolling off somewhere in the Display settings, but I'm not sure. |
| 00:18:48 | DarkkOne | I'm not the most knowledgeable about this. |
| 00:19:03 | susan | thanks..damn my next track won't work now |
| 00:19:07 | crwl | in WPS, scrolling occurs if a line has %s in it |
| 00:19:19 | DarkkOne | Aaah |
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| 00:19:32 | susan | so when a long title is playing it scrolls..can i completely stop that? |
| 00:19:48 | DarkkOne | So if you delete the %s the line doesn't scroll? |
| 00:19:58 | LinusN | yes, remove the %s on that line in the wps file |
| 00:20:11 | susan | where do i find the .WPS file? |
| 00:20:27 | LinusN | you write your own |
| 00:20:33 | DarkkOne | So you're using the default WPS? |
| 00:20:37 | LinusN | the default wps is not in a file |
| 00:21:10 | susan | oh..i saw the default .wps doc..can i just delete the %s and place a .wps file in root? |
| 00:21:32 | LinusN | in .rockbox |
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| 00:22:17 | Barry | hello all |
| 00:22:19 | DarkkOne | 'lo |
| 00:22:26 | susan | ugh,,,i'm done for a while w this. now my next track isnt working |
| 00:22:37 | susan | thanks Darkk & Linus... |
| 00:22:46 | DarkkOne | Sorry I couldn't help more. |
| 00:22:53 | susan | np..u helped a lot |
| 00:23:02 | susan | i shouldnt have done so much messing around :( |
| 00:23:26 | DarkkOne | It happens. |
| 00:23:43 | Moos | Linus: hi, have you planed a surprise for us before to go in vacations? :D |
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| 00:26:20 | Barry | why in the quick menu there is the up key don't used? |
| 00:26:33 | DarkkOne | Is it needed? |
| 00:26:51 | Barry | yes |
| 00:27:04 | Barry | left, right and down |
| 00:27:13 | Stryke` | would be nice to have Crossfade as up on the quick menu |
| 00:27:17 | Barry | but not up in joystick |
| 00:27:32 | Barry | Stryke: yes i think too |
| 00:28:01 | DarkkOne | I don't really find myself using the quick menu much. I wonder what others would like to see there. |
| 00:28:10 | susan | Linus- are you saying I could just copy that default .WPS file and what exactky do i delete and then just drag it into the .rockbox folder? |
| 00:28:44 | DarkkOne | You don't actually delete anything |
| 00:28:54 | Stryke` | no need to delete anything, drag into .rockbox and select it from Display -> Browse .wps |
| 00:29:03 | DarkkOne | You put the default.wps in the .rockbox folder, and yeah, what he said. |
| 00:29:04 | webguest47 | Delete any "%s" |
| 00:29:22 | DarkkOne | Yeah, edit the default.wps file with something, and remove any %s in it you see. |
| 00:29:38 | Barry | anyone can add the up key in quick menu for iriver? |
| 00:29:46 | susan | %s%pp/%pe: %?it<%it|%fn> - %?ia<%ia|%d2> - %?id<%id|%d1> |
| 00:29:46 | susan | %pc%?ps<*|/>%pt |
| 00:29:56 | susan | so that is the default .WPS |
| 00:30:26 | Barry | bye all |
| 00:30:26 | susan | so are you saying just the very first 2 characters? - the very first "%" and then the "s" |
| 00:30:32 | | Quit Barry ("CGI:IRC") |
| 00:30:47 | Stryke` | thats the default wps for the player |
| 00:31:01 | DarkkOne | She needs the h1x0 default |
| 00:31:03 | susan | ok Stryke...but i want to stop scrolling |
| 00:31:22 | Stryke` | this is the default for iriver and recorder |
| 00:31:23 | Stryke` | # Default WPS for Recorder |
| 00:31:23 | Stryke` | %s%?it<%?in<%in. |>%it|%fn> |
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| 00:31:23 | Stryke` | %s%?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>> |
| 00:31:23 | Stryke` | %s%?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>> %?iy<(%iy)|> |
| 00:31:23 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 00:31:23 | Stryke` | %pc/%pt [%pp:%pe] |
| 00:31:25 | Stryke` | %fbkBit %?fv<avg|> %?iv<(id3v%iv)|(no id3)> |
| 00:31:27 | Stryke` | %pb |
| 00:31:29 | Stryke` | %pm |
| 00:31:37 | Stryke` | just remove the %s from the beginning of the first 3 lines |
| 00:31:52 | DarkkOne | Is the h1x0 the same as the recorder? |
| 00:32:05 | susan | oh..all 3 lines? |
| 00:32:20 | susan | there is a .WPS for player and recorder |
| 00:32:22 | Stryke` | yes so it looks like this |
| 00:32:23 | Stryke` | # Default WPS for Recorder |
| 00:32:23 | Stryke` | %?it<%?in<%in. |>%it|%fn> |
| 00:32:23 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 00:32:23 | Stryke` | %?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>> |
| 00:32:23 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 00:32:23 | Stryke` | %?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>> %?iy<(%iy)|> |
| 00:32:23 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 00:32:23 | Stryke` | %pc/%pt [%pp:%pe] |
| 00:32:25 | Stryke` | %fbkBit %?fv<avg|> %?iv<(id3v%iv)|(no id3)> |
| 00:32:27 | Stryke` | %pb |
| 00:32:29 | Stryke` | %pm |
| 00:32:33 | susan | wouldnt i just need it for player (i dont use record at all) |
| 00:32:42 | Stryke` | player is an archos model |
| 00:32:44 | DarkkOne | The player is actually the name of a device. |
| 00:32:45 | Stryke` | with a very small lcd |
| 00:33:09 | susan | so stryke..all you did was just delete the %s froom first 3 lines correct? |
| 00:33:15 | Stryke` | right |
| 00:33:32 | Stryke` | save that text as a .wps file |
| 00:33:35 | susan | and thats the file i want (NOT the player default .WPS) ? |
| 00:34:03 | susan | right..i couykld call it anything,,,like "scroll.wps" and just put it in .rockbox folder ? |
| 00:34:10 | Stryke` | yes |
| 00:34:14 | DarkkOne | There's also a bunch of other WPSes you could try too, if you want to change up how the screen looks. |
| 00:34:18 | DarkkOne | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery#iriver_H1x0 |
| 00:35:44 | susan | thanks Darkk - i have seen that..just want to kill the scroll for now' |
| 00:35:50 | DarkkOne | Aah |
| 00:36:01 | susan | stryke..are any spaces necessary? |
| 00:36:23 | Stryke` | nope |
| 00:36:36 | susan | i just copied what you did and also copied the recorder default from the page..there is a line break..do i need that or can all characters run together? |
| 00:36:45 | susan | so just run it all w no spaces? |
| 00:37:04 | susan | %?it<%?in<%in. |>%it|%fn> |
| 00:37:04 | susan | %?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>> |
| 00:37:04 | susan | %?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>> %?iy<(%iy)|> |
| 00:37:04 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK susan |
| 00:37:04 | susan | %pc/%pt [%pp:%pe] |
| 00:37:04 | susan | %fbkBit %?fv<avg|> %?iv<(id3v%iv)|(no id3)> |
| 00:37:04 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 00:37:04 | susan | %pb |
| 00:37:06 | susan | %pm |
| 00:37:17 | Stryke` | http://home.si.rr.com/hehey/noscroll.wps |
| 00:37:28 | Stryke` | what you have there is perfect |
| 00:39:27 | susan | thnx stryke..i just tried o save it as a works file..my office needs to install something..didnt realize that was a works file |
| 00:40:17 | susan | thanks guys. i need to run my office disk to get office to convert to .WPS....back in a bit..thanks all |
| 00:40:24 | Stryke` | wait - you definitely do't wanna save it as a office file |
| 00:40:28 | Stryke` | *don't |
| 00:40:50 | susan | i know...in ofice...i can save as a .WPS/..that is an option but i need to install a converter patch |
| 00:40:56 | Stryke` | its a plain text file (.txt) with the file extension changed to (.wps) |
| 00:41:07 | Stryke` | i don't believe its the same .wps in office |
| 00:41:15 | susan | but the extension must be .WPS right? |
| 00:41:26 | Stryke` | http://home.si.rr.com/hehey/noscroll.wps |
| 00:41:29 | Stryke` | just download that |
| 00:41:34 | susan | oh no....so what do i do..make it from notepad? |
| 00:41:38 | Stryke` | yes |
| 00:41:45 | Stryke` | notepad works perfectly |
| 00:41:48 | | Part LinusN |
| 00:42:14 | susan | ok..thanks...bacxk shortly. i need a break...getting a headache :) |
| 00:47:05 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
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| 00:59:34 | ]RowaN[ | what can i use to tag my flac files? i added tags when i made them, but rockbox cant seem to display them |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:45 | Stryke` | i would suggest waiting till rockbox supports the tags they have, and recommend against forcing id3 tags on them |
| 01:01:15 | HCl | i thought flac had vorbistags? |
| 01:01:33 | Stryke` | i believe so |
| 01:02:28 | webguest47 | only ogg/flac |
| 01:02:30 | webguest47 | I think |
| 01:02:48 | webguest47 | Pure flac uses something else I believe |
| 01:03:04 | ]RowaN[ | rockbox just supports pure flac? |
| 01:03:08 | DarkkOne | .flac with vorbistags work for me. |
| 01:03:12 | DarkkOne | I used Entagged to tag 'em. |
| 01:03:22 | ]RowaN[ | Entagged you say =] |
| 01:03:28 | Stryke` | FLAC has it's own native tagging system which is identical to that of Vorbis. They are called alternately "FLAC tags" and "Vorbis comments". It is the only tagging system required and guaranteed to be supported by FLAC implementations. |
| 01:03:28 | Stryke` | Out of convenience, the reference decoder knows how to skip ID3 tags so that they don't interfere with decoding. But you should not expect any tags beside FLAC tags to be supported in applications; some implementations may not even be able to decode a FLAC file with ID3 tags. |
| 01:03:33 | DarkkOne | Vorbis Comments, yep |
| 01:03:40 | DarkkOne | Entagged indeed. |
| 01:03:53 | webguest47 | Ah, they're identical. How convenient. |
| 01:04:05 | DarkkOne | I had some issues with it and ID3 tags on some MP3s not showing up using Tag Database Tool, and never quite figured that out |
| 01:04:14 | DarkkOne | But since I moved to Rockbox that hasn't mattered, and all is well. |
| 01:04:32 | Stryke` | according to IriverTesting on the wiki, rockbox does not yet support tags in the wps for FLAC |
| 01:05:01 | DarkkOne | It lies |
| 01:05:22 | DarkkOne | Title: Thunderstruck, Artist: AC-DC, Album: The Razor's Edge. |
| 01:05:26 | Stryke` | oh, you can confirm |
| 01:05:28 | DarkkOne | It's showing on my screen, right now. |
| 01:05:44 | DarkkOne | Maximum compression .flac |
| 01:05:58 | Stryke` | tagged on ripping/encoding? |
| 01:06:11 | DarkkOne | Created using EAC, and its freedb lookup |
| 01:06:19 | Stryke` | yeah tagged by flac.exe |
| 01:06:40 | DarkkOne | Yeah, but I've used Entagged to re-tag FLACs without problems |
| 01:06:49 | ]RowaN[ | flac "tag" button doesnt ask me for the title.. only artist and other info |
| 01:06:49 | DarkkOne | When I didn't pay attention and it labelled one of my Ozzy albums as Blues. |
| 01:06:49 | | Quit Moos (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong") |
| 01:06:59 | ]RowaN[ | anyway, ill try entagged now |
| 01:07:27 | DarkkOne | It seems to work well for me, for Ogg/Vorbis and FLAC especially |
| 01:07:35 | DarkkOne | I don't entirely trust it with MP3 for some reason. |
| 01:08:03 | ]RowaN[ | bah entagged website dont work in IE, cant see the navigation bars |
| 01:08:38 | ]RowaN[ | ahah |
| 01:11:20 | DarkkOne | All the audio on my iHP-120 is either FLACs of my CDs, or MP3s from OCremix which come pre-tagged. |
| 01:13:22 | BBub | i wouldnt have the space to use flac's only ;) |
| 01:14:58 | DarkkOne | 1350 OCremixes, and like 365 flacs. 's enough for me. |
| 01:15:00 | Stryke` | i wish there was more of a chance of MusePack working on the iRiver in the near future |
| 01:15:04 | ]RowaN[ | hmm still wont show when ive tagged with Entagged |
| 01:15:28 | DarkkOne | I dunno Rowan.. |
| 01:15:41 | BBub | Stryke`: hard to make it realtime i guess |
| 01:15:49 | Stryke` | upload one of the flacs somewhere for people to take a look at it |
| 01:15:53 | Stryke` | yeah BBub |
| 01:15:57 | ]RowaN[ | let me try .ogg flac |
| 01:15:57 | BBub | someone would have to optimize the code |
| 01:16:07 | BBub | ]RowaN[: shouldnt work |
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| 01:16:14 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Stryke|AWAY |
| 01:16:52 | DarkkOne | .ogg flacs don't even play yet. |
| 01:17:04 | ]RowaN[ | bah whats my problem then |
| 01:18:24 | DarkkOne | Are you using the most recent build of it? |
| 01:18:53 | DarkkOne | Rockbox that is. |
| 01:20:28 | ]RowaN[ | yes |
| 01:20:43 | DarkkOne | Hrm |
| 01:21:22 | DarkkOne | Y'know what MIGHt be the problem? |
| 01:21:33 | DarkkOne | They might not work. |
| 01:21:36 | DarkkOne | Heh |
| 01:21:51 | DarkkOne | Lemme check something |
| 01:22:38 | ]RowaN[ | and one of the flacs i made (which works fine in winamp) seems to stutter/pause every 10secs or so in rockbox |
| 01:23:04 | DarkkOne | Doh |
| 01:23:12 | DarkkOne | I realized why my ID3 tags seem to work |
| 01:23:29 | DarkkOne | Well, Vorbis COmment tags |
| 01:24:06 | DarkkOne | Because I generated my directory structure (by random chance) exactly how the WPS I chose to use looks for them in lieu of tags, and since it's generated BY the tags, data matches. |
| 01:25:46 | DarkkOne | :( |
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| 01:27:15 | * | ]RowaN[ nods and pretends to understand |
| 01:27:41 | DarkkOne | FLAC tags don't work. |
| 01:27:58 | DarkkOne | I just had things set up perfectly so my WPS could fake it, and I didn't even realize it. |
| 01:27:59 | ]RowaN[ | so im not going mad? |
| 01:28:06 | DarkkOne | Nope |
| 01:28:09 | DarkkOne | Apparently I am instead. |
| 01:28:11 | ]RowaN[ | well, not in this sense |
| 01:28:15 | | Nick Stryke|AWAY is now known as Stryke` (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) |
| 01:28:15 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Stryke` |
| 01:29:01 | ]RowaN[ | im getting some stutters in other flacs too |
| 01:29:05 | Stryke` | would it be appropriate to say 'told you so' ;-) |
| 01:29:30 | ]RowaN[ | if you cant say anything nice.. |
| 01:29:53 | Stryke` | just kidding of course |
| 01:29:56 | DarkkOne | It would Stryke. |
| 01:29:58 | DarkkOne | It really would. |
| 01:30:09 | Stryke` | i suppose that your wps handles it quite well then |
| 01:30:23 | DarkkOne | I just grabbed a cookie cutter one from the gallery |
| 01:30:35 | Stryke` | some form of Artist/Album/File.mp3 directory structure? |
| 01:30:42 | DarkkOne | Exactly |
| 01:30:46 | DarkkOne | The standard one everybody uses. |
| 01:30:55 | DarkkOne | Well, not everybody |
| 01:30:58 | DarkkOne | But lazy people |
| 01:31:03 | Stryke` | i like Artist/Year - Album/File |
| 01:31:18 | DarkkOne | I'm not good with dates. |
| 01:31:32 | DarkkOne | And yeah, a couple of my FLACs stutter too |
| 01:31:41 | DarkkOne | What level of compression are you using? |
| 01:31:44 | Stryke` | higher compressed? |
| 01:32:50 | ]RowaN[ | most compressed i do my flacs (lossless, so, a no brainer??) |
| 01:32:59 | DarkkOne | Yeah. |
| 01:33:01 | DarkkOne | Same here. |
| 01:33:11 | DarkkOne | Someone mentioned that decompressing the more compressed ones is a bit more CPU intensive. |
| 01:33:13 | ]RowaN[ | more confirmations that im not mad, yey |
| 01:34:01 | DarkkOne | It usually only happens a little bit at the beginning of a song, if ever for me. |
| 01:34:35 | ]RowaN[ | with a flac i just made, theres a stutter about 1 min in, and thats it.. with an older flac theres a stutter like every 10 secs |
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| 01:34:59 | DarkkOne | Hrm |
| 01:35:08 | BePe86 | hello guys, I'm having trouble with the win32 sim for h120 |
| 01:35:18 | BePe86 | i've finally compiled it and it appears to be working |
| 01:35:33 | BePe86 | but every time I try to play a song, an error message appears |
| 01:35:57 | BePe86 | rockboxui.exe - Bad Image |
| 01:36:10 | DarkkOne | Well, reencoding flacs may take a bit, but hey, no quality loss. Though I imagine if they make the codec a little more efficient those will clear out (assuming that's possible.) But right now you may just want to knock it down to default compression. |
| 01:36:14 | DarkkOne | See if that helps |
| 01:36:57 | ]RowaN[ | i'll wait, ive only got lik 4 flacs vs 1000+ mp3s =] |
| 01:37:48 | DarkkOne | Hehehe |
| 01:37:52 | DarkkOne | I've got 350 flacs... heh. |
| 01:38:14 | BePe86 | The application ir dkk f:\build\archos\_temp_image.dll is not a valid Windows image. ... bla bla bla |
| 01:38:39 | BePe86 | sorry, The application in dir f:\build\archos\_temp_image.dll is not a valid Windows image. ... bla bla bla |
| 01:39:03 | BePe86 | whoops, typos again |
| 01:39:04 | BePe86 | hang on |
| 01:40:11 | BePe86 | "The application or DLL F:\build\archos\.rockbox\rocks\battery_test.rock is not a valid Winodws image. Please check this against your installation diskette." |
| 01:40:25 | BePe86 | anyone else with this error? |
| 01:44:56 | DarkkOne | I haven't built any but the iHP-1X0 sim. |
| 01:46:12 | BePe86 | i'm glad I found this firmware, can't wait to get my H120 flashed... too bad I don't have an USB cable right now :/ |
| 01:46:50 | DarkkOne | That makes it just a wee bit difficult. |
| 01:47:07 | BePe86 | yeah |
| 01:47:59 | DarkkOne | Y'know, I think besides FLAC support, the new feature I've used the most is actually the Sokoban plugin. |
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| 01:55:14 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:55:47 | BePe86 | We open the real file 'archos/.rockbox/codecs/mpa.codec' failed to load archos/_temp_codec.dll dlopen(archos/_temp_codec.dll): ~♀B |
| 01:55:57 | BePe86 | that's the error from the console |
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| 02:03:07 | * | DarkkOne_ mutters |
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| 02:08:33 | webguest47 | BePe86: when do you get that error? |
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| 02:13:41 | | Quit DarkkOne (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
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| 02:15:59 | webguest47 | ah, when you try to play a song. Doesn't happen here. Doesn't play either though. |
| 02:17:16 | webguest47 | do you need to enable sound in the w32 sim? |
| 02:26:52 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Hey, when upgrading the rockbox bootloader do i just overwrite it or do i have to unload it first? |
| 02:30:59 | webguest47 | Just reflash with a patched firmware |
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| 11:16:00 | Coldtoast | I REALLY REALLY like the new Mix mode |
| 11:16:24 | crwl | heh, and i wondered what use it is of :) |
| 11:17:16 | Coldtoast | really? |
| 11:17:31 | Coldtoast | it's far more "natural" |
| 11:17:49 | crwl | oh, maybe then |
| 11:17:53 | crwl | i don't use crossfade either, though |
| 11:17:59 | Coldtoast | ah. ok |
| 11:18:16 | crwl | i would if there was an option to turn it off in automatic song changes :) |
| 11:18:42 | Coldtoast | so you'd just want it on manual track skipping? |
| 11:18:46 | crwl | yes |
| 11:18:55 | Coldtoast | heh. to me that seems odd |
| 11:19:18 | crwl | i don't know why would i want crossfade on automatic song changes |
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| 11:19:23 | lodesi | hi |
| 11:19:29 | crwl | it'll break gapless and the natural progression of an album |
| 11:19:32 | crwl | but in shuffle mode, maybe... |
| 11:21:46 | Lear | coldtoast: and the volume during the mix is good? |
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| 11:23:35 | lodesi | Lear: thx for the help yesterday,i have able my problem :) |
| 11:23:42 | lodesi | to solve* |
| 11:23:50 | Lear | you're welcome |
| 11:24:58 | Coldtoast | Lear: yep. seems just right to me |
| 11:25:32 | Lear | okay, I was just wondering, because the code just adds the sample values. looked a bit too simple to me. :) |
| 11:25:37 | Coldtoast | crwl: well, gapless isn't really particularly high on my list of thing sI really wanted |
| 11:26:12 | Coldtoast | really? well, seems to be working fine to me. I like how it's implemented |
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| 11:28:59 | Coldtoast | on teh Rio Karma, how good IS the gapless? |
| 11:29:06 | Coldtoast | does it work 100% of the time? |
| 11:30:05 | Coldtoast | I don't seem to have many albums that play gapless. There's a split second of silence on track change |
| 11:30:54 | ze | its very good |
| 11:31:19 | ze | from what i understand they've worked out several different checks and methods that get applied to guarantee foolproof gapless |
| 11:31:47 | Coldtoast | cool |
| 11:32:08 | Coldtoast | I like crossfade far more myself |
| 11:32:15 | ze | its got that too |
| 11:32:21 | Coldtoast | nice! |
| 11:33:49 | Coldtoast | hmm. can you just dump tracks onto it the same way you can with iriver? |
| 11:33:57 | Coldtoast | or does it have to go thru this Music Manager thing? |
| 11:34:46 | Coldtoast | http://www.eng.fsu.edu/~faizalmi/store/carbon/rio01.jpg |
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| 11:35:05 | Coldtoast | nice display! I liek the multiple font sizes |
| 11:36:51 | ze | it uses musicmanager... they're supposedly working on a fw upgrade for the karma that makes the fs fat32 and makes it usb mass storage compliant, but thats been something they've been supposedly working on for some time now... i dunno if it'll ever actually happen |
| 11:37:06 | Coldtoast | hmm. ok |
| 11:37:22 | Coldtoast | if it had that, I migh tactually buy one |
| 11:37:36 | ze | i use the java version of the music manager lite, over the ethernet connection, on linux... it works quite well, even being java |
| 11:38:00 | Coldtoast | had a look at an ipod mini the other day. first time I'd held one |
| 11:38:05 | ze | heh |
| 11:38:06 | Coldtoast | and they're really not THAT small |
| 11:38:16 | ze | i won't be impressed till they're microscopic |
| 11:38:32 | ze | and they better have >=terabytes at that point too |
| 11:38:32 | Coldtoast | it was in an iskin tho |
| 11:38:44 | Coldtoast | but it wasn't much smaller than my h140 or lighter |
| 11:39:00 | Coldtoast | and my h140 has an ipod battery in it. 2200mAh one |
| 11:39:14 | ze | heh |
| 11:39:44 | Coldtoast | I honestly think that particular upgrade, the ipod battery one, is a must-do |
| 11:39:52 | Coldtoast | it's SO damn cheap and SO damn easy |
| 11:40:16 | Coldtoast | oh! wonder if Cassandra received her new battery |
| 11:40:50 | Lear | coldtoast: it is? would be nice with better run-time... :) |
| 11:41:08 | Coldtoast | yeah. the batteries cost, like, $17US with shipping. heh |
| 11:41:35 | Coldtoast | all you need to do is swap the wires in the connector on the battery |
| 11:41:46 | Coldtoast | polarity is the reverse of what the ipod uses |
| 11:42:06 | Lear | do you need to solder for that, or just plug something the "other way around"? |
| 11:42:17 | Coldtoast | takes about 20mins to change the connector polarity, open teh player, install it, close it all up |
| 11:42:20 | Coldtoast | nope |
| 11:42:25 | Coldtoast | no soldering |
| 11:42:34 | Coldtoast | the connector is exactly the same but you have to swap the wires |
| 11:42:40 | Coldtoast | easily done with a pin |
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| 11:43:14 | Coldtoast | lift the little bit of plastic on the connector holding each wire in, pull it out, swap them and re-insert into connector |
| 11:43:39 | Coldtoast | then connect it to the player and close it up |
| 11:43:49 | webguest98 | The Rio Karma does LAME encoded files perfectly gapless, it uses a heuristic model to achieve gapless for non LAME mp3's |
| 11:44:43 | Coldtoast | Lear: it's kinda cool seeing Rockbox report 27hrs, 30mins of remaining battery. heh |
| 11:44:57 | Lear | and if the battery fits in an ipod, it'll fit an h140? I read something about slightly different thickness... |
| 11:45:00 | Coldtoast | I've not done a battery test tho |
| 11:45:13 | Coldtoast | it's slightly thicker than the h140 battery but fits easily |
| 11:45:33 | Coldtoast | it's not a tight squeeze but it's "snug" |
| 11:45:35 | crwl | i think about 18-20 hours is easily achieavable with the 2200 mAh battery, even with some fiddling and track changing and other files than just 128 kbps mp3 |
| 11:45:41 | crwl | the battery fits even h120 |
| 11:45:48 | Coldtoast | it's closer to 24hrs crash__ |
| 11:46:22 | Coldtoast | I've had mine in my h140 for 2 weeks now and I've charged it twice |
| 11:46:32 | Coldtoast | only use it 2-3hrs a day tho |
| 11:46:46 | Coldtoast | sometimes more |
| 11:47:00 | webguest98 | any news on replaygain for the H140 ? |
| 11:47:21 | Coldtoast | so maybe 3hrs while I'm out and anoithe rhour or so of fiddlign around, doing stuff |
| 11:47:22 | Lear | hm... wonder where I can find one in Sweden... |
| 11:47:36 | crwl | ebay |
| 11:47:44 | Coldtoast | http://search.ebay.com.au/2200mah_W0QQsofocusZsoQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQsacatZ-1QQcatrefZC6QQflocZ1QQsargnZ-1QQsaslcZ2QQsadisZ200QQfposZPostcodeQQga10244Z10425QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQcoactionZcompareQQcopagenumZ1QQcoentrypageZsearch |
| 11:48:02 | Coldtoast | it's 2200mah, ist and 2nd gen ipod |
| 11:48:06 | Coldtoast | ist=1st |
| 11:48:11 | Coldtoast | that's what yo look for on ebay |
| 11:48:27 | Coldtoast | I bought from "ezipda" cos they have a 1yr warranty |
| 11:48:59 | webguest98 | cant wait for the next gen Karma to come out, gapless and replaygain support out the box |
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| 11:49:50 | Coldtoast | I love my h140. I have no real desire for anything else |
| 11:49:52 | Lear | I have vorbisgain support here... :) |
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| 11:50:29 | Coldtoast | I liek the way it looks. the construction, the fact it now has rockbox, the battery life |
| 11:50:41 | Coldtoast | had it since Nov last year and there's still not a single mark on it |
| 11:50:48 | Coldtoast | and I just use the stock case it came with |
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| 11:51:33 | webguest53 | for me its the quality of the sound which is important, it is after all a mp3 player |
| 11:52:03 | Coldtoast | no. it's a DAP actually |
| 11:52:22 | Coldtoast | and there's certainly nothign wrogn with the sound quality of the h140 |
| 11:52:24 | webguest53 | yes so, the sound is still important |
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| 11:52:40 | Coldtoast | iriver has excellent sound quality |
| 11:52:51 | Coldtoast | I doubt Rio has better |
| 11:52:58 | webguest53 | yes it does |
| 11:53:00 | Coldtoast | I KNOW ipod doesn't |
| 11:53:06 | Coldtoast | how so? |
| 11:53:18 | webguest53 | Rio'es gspless is outstanding |
| 11:53:23 | webguest53 | gapless |
| 11:53:26 | Coldtoast | that's not sound qwuality |
| 11:53:37 | webguest53 | for me its all about the sound |
| 11:53:45 | Coldtoast | that's NOT sound qualityt ho |
| 11:53:52 | webguest53 | preventing clipping would also be usefull |
| 11:53:59 | Coldtoast | which the iriver does |
| 11:54:05 | webguest53 | hence replaygain support |
| 11:54:24 | webguest53 | not its not perfact on the H140 |
| 11:54:48 | Coldtoast | the iriver firmware doesn't clip |
| 11:54:52 | Coldtoast | nor does rockbox |
| 11:54:57 | webguest53 | yes it does |
| 11:55:03 | Coldtoast | and they're using different methods to avoid it |
| 11:55:11 | webguest53 | such as |
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| 11:55:35 | Coldtoast | the iriver fw avoids clipping by limiting EQ and rockbox does it by limiting volume |
| 11:55:36 | webguest53 | I suggest you read up on replay gain to understand input clipping |
| 11:56:03 | webguest53 | its not about volume clipping |
| 11:56:22 | Coldtoast | to avoid input clipping, encode your shit properly |
| 11:56:39 | webguest53 | yes I do, with EAC and LAME@aps |
| 11:56:55 | webguest53 | you dont understand replaygain and its function |
| 11:57:56 | Coldtoast | just for the record, I've NEVER heard clippign with anything on either rockbox or the iriver fw |
| 11:57:58 | Coldtoast | ever |
| 11:58:20 | webguest53 | you should encode your shit properly :) |
| 11:58:25 | Coldtoast | it is |
| 11:58:31 | Coldtoast | I also use EAC+Lame |
| 11:58:49 | Coldtoast | and anything I get from other ppl, I MP3Gain |
| 11:59:00 | webguest53 | do you know what the purpose of replaygain is |
| 11:59:05 | Coldtoast | sure |
| 11:59:11 | webguest53 | its TOTALYY different to mp3gain |
| 11:59:24 | webguest53 | mp3gain is shite |
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| 12:00:06 | Coldtoast | the point I'm making is I don't leave it up tho the player to sort out the gain of anything I have on it |
| 12:00:38 | Coldtoast | and I'm quite sure irockbox will have good replaygain support |
| 12:00:56 | Coldtoast | so it's a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned |
| 12:01:01 | webguest53 | once again, mp3gain is NOT the same as replaygain |
| 12:01:12 | webguest53 | thanks for the info |
| 12:01:28 | Coldtoast | I don't have anything that suffers clipping at teh moment and if, in fure, I DO have tracks that will rely on replaygain, it'll be there |
| 12:01:43 | Coldtoast | do me a favour. Paste exactly WHERE I said that |
| 12:01:44 | Coldtoast | ? |
| 12:02:11 | webguest53 | thanks for the info, hows the weather in Australia |
| 12:02:17 | Coldtoast | what info? |
| 12:02:37 | Coldtoast | well, as you obviously think I have no idea what you're talking about, I'm off to get food |
| 12:02:52 | webguest53 | Bon Apetit |
| 12:02:59 | Lear | in what way is mp3gain not replaygain (except that it usually doesn't store the change as tags, that is) |
| 12:03:09 | Coldtoast | if you need to rely solely on replaygain support to get decent sound quality. that's fine |
| 12:03:55 | Coldtoast | so I run MP3Gain over all my tracks before uploading, rather than my player having to do it on-the-fly, sue me |
| 12:04:02 | Coldtoast | anyway |
| 12:04:41 | webguest53 | mp3gain ouputs all the files at the same vol. Replaygain limits input clipping, big difference |
| 12:05:47 | webguest53 | or rather prevents input clipping due to recordings which are to loud, jeez guys this is well documented, google it |
| 12:06:04 | Lear | now, the main purpose of replaygain is to get the same volume. at the same time you can avoid clipping, but that is a bonus really. |
| 12:06:34 | Lear | I've read reaplygain.org pretty closely, thank you very much. :) |
| 12:07:01 | Lear | btw, what do you mean by input clipping? |
| 12:07:17 | Lear | as in, avoiding clips in the wav that is input to the encoder? |
| 12:07:27 | webguest53 | yes |
| 12:07:54 | webguest53 | no sorry it does nothing whilst encoding |
| 12:08:42 | webguest53 | it doesnt touch the file then, run replaygain after the file has been encoded |
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| 12:09:49 | Lear | exactly, and what replaygain does is to estimate the percieved volume, so that the player automatically can adjust it to make it equal over different tracks. |
| 12:10:27 | Lear | as a side effect, that often limits clipping introduced by the encoding. |
| 12:11:57 | webguest53 | ok, then my interpretation of it is wrong, or different |
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| 12:32:32 | Coldtoast | I like MP3Gain a lot myself |
| 12:37:15 | Coldtoast | aah. nothing like crappy takeaway food on a Saturday night |
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| 13:04:12 | webguest13 | does RBox read apeV2 tags ? |
| 13:07:31 | webguest13 | I'm thinking or mp3gain'ing my music, if RB doesn't read ape tags then I guess I need to set the, 'Options - Tags - Ignore' in mp3 gain ?. |
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| 13:15:26 | Lear | no, rb doesn't read ape tags for mp3. |
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| 14:25:48 | webguest23 | for Replaygain setting, which is preferable, 24bit fixed point or 32 bit ? |
| 14:26:05 | webguest23 | for the H140 |
| 14:27:01 | Lear | what setting? i.e., in which program? |
| 14:27:15 | Lear | not that I think it matters either way... :) |
| 14:30:04 | webguest23 | sorry in Foobar to set the repkaygain parameters |
| 14:31:33 | webguest23 | it has a field. 'output data format', 16bit, 24 bit, 32 bit |
| 14:31:40 | Lear | I'm not sure the replaygain scanner looks at those settings, but even if it is, it makes no difference. :) |
| 14:31:56 | Lear | but that's for playback, isn't it (true, i'm looking at the 0.9 beta...) |
| 14:32:10 | webguest23 | yes its for playback |
| 14:32:27 | Lear | well, playback and replaygain scanning isn't quite the same thing, you know... |
| 14:32:57 | webguest23 | yes, but I need to set that field to something |
| 14:33:58 | Lear | set it to what your sound hardware supports. 16 always works, for some cards 24 or 32 bit can increase quality somewhat (though it is doubtful if you can hear that...). |
| 14:34:17 | webguest23 | so its irrelevant for mp3 players ? |
| 14:34:46 | webguest23 | or DAP's rather |
| 14:35:03 | Lear | Yes, it only affects how Foobar plays audio on your computer. |
| 14:35:11 | webguest23 | thank you |
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| 18:38:00 | webguest60 | Slasheri: thanks for all the code, enjoy the army |
| 18:38:21 | Slasheri | webguest60: thx :) |
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| 22:29:26 | webguest72 | does anyone have any idea if anyone is working on the east asian languages? |
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| 22:58:53 | Coldtoast | hey Slasheri |
| 22:59:02 | Coldtoast | have fun in the military. heh |
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