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| 00:02:00 | DreamTactix291 | well all my ID3v2 are UTF-16 and it copes fine |
| 00:02:02 | DreamTactix291 | so |
| 00:02:30 | DreamTactix291 | though most of the stuff on my player is vorbis so i'm less concerned with mp3 |
| 00:03:17 | DreamTactix291 | i think vorbis comments are unicode too |
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| 00:06:03 | Lear | Vorbis is UTF-8 to be picky, but yes... |
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| 00:06:54 | DreamTactix291 | that's what i thought |
| 00:10:17 | leftright | if you set mp3tag to read v1 tags it will display the info |
| 00:10:32 | Lear | assuming your files have v1 tags... :) |
| 00:10:48 | leftright | yes :) |
| 00:14:34 | t0mas | hm |
| 00:14:39 | t0mas | unsigned short = 16 bits right? |
| 00:14:41 | t0mas | (on x86) |
| 00:15:03 | DreamTactix291 | IIRC yes |
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| 00:22:40 | Luthion | can anyone please help me help me with applying the grayscale patch to rockbox (for iRiver). I've read " How To Work With Patches", but it doesn't work so I'm assuming I'm doing something wrong... |
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| 00:31:28 | belgarath | oh dear, foobar deleted all my tags |
| 00:36:04 | Stryke` | doubtful |
| 00:36:11 | belgarath | luckily i kept a backup |
| 00:36:48 | belgarath | it didn't delete all of them, just the ones that i had scanned before i set it to id3v2 i think |
| 00:36:54 | belgarath | which was around half... |
| 00:37:45 | Stryke` | what makes you think it deleted the tags before you set it to id3v2? ive never seen foobar delete tags unless you want it to |
| 00:41:25 | Luthion | Ok, this is probably a stupid question that I could find the answer to somewhere, but I've searched around with no results and I'm getting tired so I'll ask anyways: How do I convert (or it's called complie, isn't it?) the .c files in the plugin-dir of the CVS to .rock files? |
| 00:41:38 | belgarath | well they weren't deleted before i scanned the files |
| 00:41:50 | Stryke` | what are you using to view the files? |
| 00:42:08 | belgarath | mp3 tag |
| 00:42:37 | belgarath | but its a bit late for that as I deleted them (after making sure I had a backup) |
| 00:42:44 | Stryke` | oh ok |
| 00:42:47 | Stryke` | no big loss |
| 00:43:16 | Stryke` | i wonder if it has some sort of priority system like foobar (which will read APEv2 tags above all else) that has people that use mp3gain thinking their tags were deleted |
| 00:43:26 | Lear | I've said it before, mp3tag can't show unicode tags, which Foobar writes by default. Try another program and you may be surprised (and relieved). :) |
| 00:43:46 | belgarath | damnit i just deleted all my files, thanks lear... |
| 00:43:59 | Stryke` | tag.exe is my favorite mass tagging app other than foobar |
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| 00:44:26 | Moos | hi guys |
| 00:44:35 | Stryke` | hey |
| 00:44:37 | belgarath | all i put in foobar preferences was check "always write ISO... instead of ...." |
| 00:45:05 | Moos | i just come back home and i will RG all my mp3 files :) |
| 00:45:07 | belgarath | and then changed standard inputs to id3v2 |
| 00:45:16 | Lear | if so, mp3tag should be able to read them... |
| 00:45:26 | belgarath | it didn't read half |
| 00:45:33 | Moos | what program needed? foobar? |
| 00:45:41 | Stryke` | yes |
| 00:45:58 | Moos | it's work on iriver yet? |
| 00:46:00 | belgarath | leading me to believe that when I previously did the regain with ape as the input, I think it may have replaced the tags |
| 00:46:24 | belgarath | no biggie i'll just try again in the morning |
| 00:46:44 | Stryke` | maybe you had always remove id3v2 tags selected? |
| 00:46:57 | belgarath | no i don't think so |
| 00:47:02 | Stryke` | okk |
| 00:47:07 | belgarath | although that is a possibility |
| 00:47:30 | belgarath | but I thought that cdex (the program i used to use before eac) did id3v1 and v2? |
| 00:48:13 | Stryke` | yeah, i'd love to look at one of the deleted tag mp3s too late, though |
| 00:48:59 | onkeljonas | hi... quick Q - is there any way to pause scrolling in the wps after each completed scroll? (so it'll scroll "very long name of very funky album" all the way through and then pause for some time) |
| 00:49:14 | Stryke` | onkeljonas: not yet, id love the same feature |
| 00:50:10 | onkeljonas | kk thx |
| 00:50:37 | onkeljonas | yea - it looks weird having a line scrolling all the time |
| 00:50:54 | Stryke` | indeed |
| 00:51:18 | Stryke` | especially when you have a song title 'They Provide The Paint For The Picture-Perfect Masterpiece That You Will Paint On The Insides Of Your Eyelids' |
| 00:51:28 | belgarath | who's that by? |
| 00:51:35 | Stryke` | Bandits Of The Acoustic Revolution |
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| 00:52:05 | belgarath | on iriver firmware that would be way past the 52 character limit |
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| 00:52:24 | onkeljonas | whats the width of the iriver screen in pixels? |
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| 00:53:44 | Stryke` | 160? |
| 00:54:25 | Stryke` | we do not talk of the iriver firmware ;-) |
| 00:54:58 | onkeljonas | well the screensize ought to be firmware independent no? |
| 00:55:24 | Stryke` | obviously yes |
| 00:56:26 | onkeljonas | i just want the scroll to go one screenwidth at a time - so "Presents the ultimate m" changes directly to "usic machine" |
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| 00:56:51 | belgarath | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverHardwareComponents although I cannot find the resolution of the screen, it is interesting nonetheless |
| 00:57:03 | leftright | onkeljaas, to make the scroll pause %ac%s%t4Al: %Id;%ac%s%t4Ar-%Ia |
| 00:57:18 | onkeljonas | AHHH... thx a bunch :) |
| 00:58:40 | Stryke` | onkeljonas: Doesn't scroll step size allow for that? |
| 00:59:10 | leftright | hmm, %t is pause time |
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| 01:00:09 | onkeljonas | @ Stryke` - thats what I'm playing with, but I can't get the right setting - too high and line becomes a mess after first scroll |
| 01:00:30 | Stryke` | how high does it allow you to go? |
| 01:01:04 | Stryke` | i think you should adjust the scroll speed along with |
| 01:01:30 | onkeljonas | 160 is max, but somewhere above 100 and it gets fuxored... even at speed 1 |
| 01:02:26 | Stryke` | Scroll Speed: Controls how many times per second the scrolling text moves a step. |
| 01:02:39 | belgarath | step as in pixel? |
| 01:02:40 | Stryke` | yeah, i read it wrong |
| 01:02:50 | Stryke` | as in whatever you chose as the size |
| 01:02:55 | Stryke` | so yours is moving 160 a second |
| 01:03:16 | Stryke` | seems you would need a number far below 1 |
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| 01:10:00 | onkeljonas | hmmm... looks like scroll stepping >127 is buged |
| 01:10:05 | onkeljonas | +g |
| 01:10:19 | DreamTactix291 | <belgarath> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverHardwareComponents although I cannot find the resolution of the screen, it is interesting nonetheless <−− 160x128 |
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| 01:18:32 | Luthion | Can somebody please help a newbie that's very tired by lots of searching? :) How do I convert (or it's called compile, isn't it?) the .c files in the plugin-dir of the CVS to .rock files? |
| 01:19:32 | onkeljonas | is there a reason you don't just download the bleeding edge build? |
| 01:20:30 | Luthion | I've done that, but I can't some plugins there, like rockboy |
| 01:20:58 | BBub | Luthion: rockboy is not a plugin |
| 01:21:02 | BBub | its a file-handler |
| 01:21:19 | Luthion | hmm ok, my bad :p |
| 01:21:33 | BBub | you load a .gb or .gbc on your iriver and "start" it like a mp3 |
| 01:22:13 | Luthion | but it was some .c-files in the plugin-dir that isn't included |
| 01:22:23 | Luthion | or I'm just very tired and have overseen them... |
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| 01:23:39 | Luthion | "calendar" for instance, but is that because it doesn't work with the iRiver version? |
| 01:24:44 | BBub | yup |
| 01:24:49 | BBub | the iriver has no rtc |
| 01:24:56 | Luthion | ok |
| 01:26:19 | onkeljonas | ahhh nice... finaly found a scroll setting that suits me :) |
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| 01:30:11 | onkeljonas | are there any legit gb roms out there? |
| 01:31:13 | Luthion | just a quick q: When using patch.exe to apply a patch, will it output a message if the patch was applied successfully? |
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| 02:19:03 | ansivirus | anyone here have the JBRFM? |
| 02:19:43 | ansivirus | I'm wondering if I can just buy the 6V 1000mA cig lighter adapter from Radioshack for 17.00 rather than spending 31.00 on the archos one |
| 02:20:27 | ansivirus | the A/C adapter that came with it is 5V 700mA |
| 02:20:46 | ansivirus | the Cig Lighter adapter sold from Archos is 6V 1.6A |
| 02:20:48 | ansivirus | any ideas? |
| 02:25:40 | Cassandra | Should be OK, yes. |
| 02:25:51 | Cassandra | But I offer no guarantees. |
| 02:25:54 | ansivirus | :) |
| 02:26:01 | ansivirus | sounds good enough to me |
| 02:26:02 | ansivirus | thanks |
| 02:26:19 | ansivirus | that's what i thought also just wanted another opinion prior to trying it :P |
| 02:26:28 | Cassandra | I charge my FM from a 6V block. |
| 02:26:33 | ansivirus | cool |
| 02:26:56 | Cassandra | But I blew up my first iRiver trying the same thing. |
| 02:26:56 | ansivirus | i actually measured the output of the 5V block that came with mine and it outputs 9.5V |
| 02:27:19 | Cassandra | *nods* Unregulated PSUs. They vary depending on load. |
| 02:27:30 | Cassandra | The voltage measurement is for a nominal load. |
| 02:27:44 | ansivirus | I just don't think that it will blow up the FM Recorder because the one they sell is 6V 1.5A and the one i'm gonna use is 6V 1000mA |
| 02:27:54 | ansivirus | ahh |
| 02:29:07 | ansivirus | ok well I thank you.. I'm off to RadioShack to purchase.. leave on a road trip in a little bit.. 23 hours driving don't wanna leave my mp3s behind :P |
| 02:29:11 | ansivirus | thanks again for the info |
| 02:30:07 | Cassandra | np |
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| 10:15:09 | leftright | lear: does Rockbox support unicode ?, with reference to the replaygain unicode overwriting of v2 |
| 10:18:11 | leftright | will Rockbox then read get tag info from ID3v1 if v2 is overwritten in unicode ? |
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| 11:03:09 | [-AIR-] | hey people. the mandlebrot plugin. does it actually generate a fractal or is it just an image? because zooming in a long way seems to just stretch the fractal rather than "zooming in". any ideas? |
| 11:04:22 | HCl | it generates a fractal, as far as i know |
| 11:06:53 | amiconn | It's a true fractal, but you may experience one of 2 problems |
| 11:07:15 | amiconn | (1) Zooming changes the aspect, but I don't yet know why |
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| 11:07:35 | leftright | oes rockbox read unicode ID3v1 and v2 tags ? |
| 11:07:37 | a1r | hey people. the mandlebrot plugin. does it actually generate a fractal or is it just an image? because zooming in a long way seems to just stretch the fractal rather than "zooming in". any ideas? |
| 11:07:38 | amiconn | (2) If you zoom in very far, there are precision problems, as it uses 32 bit fixed point math |
| 11:07:51 | leftright | oes=does |
| 11:07:54 | a1r | sorry missed the first one amiconn. say again? |
| 11:08:18 | amiconn | a1r: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt is your friend... |
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| 11:08:27 | a1r | ah yes :) |
| 11:09:26 | a1r | thanks jimbo |
| 11:09:27 | leftright | Lear: can rockbox read unicode ID3v1 and v2 tags ? |
| 11:09:44 | Lear | v2 yes, v1 can't be unicode... |
| 11:10:02 | Lear | that is, latin-1 chars encoded as unicode at least... |
| 11:10:02 | a1r | what is unicode? |
| 11:10:11 | leftright | so if v2 is overwritten by unicode, rockbox gets tag info from v1 ? |
| 11:10:23 | Lear | a way to support lots of languages, including chinese and similar |
| 11:10:38 | a1r | ok. |
| 11:10:46 | a1r | cheers |
| 11:11:12 | Lear | no, you set a preference, read v2 or v1, and rockbox will then always use the v2, if the file has one. |
| 11:11:26 | leftright | yes my last question was crap |
| 11:11:42 | Lear | and my answer wasn't much better. :) |
| 11:12:26 | leftright | I'm setting up a replaygain how to at mistic, and wasnt sure about v2 and unicode |
| 11:13:05 | leftright | its only tagging programs which need to catch up then |
| 11:13:57 | leftright | thanks |
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| 11:58:42 | Moos | Hello all ! |
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| 12:02:17 | [-AIR-] | heyhey |
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| 12:05:05 | [-AIR-] | hicks |
| 12:05:34 | hicks | hicks or hi? :) |
| 12:05:53 | hicks | Everyone in gentoo keeps typing "hicks,..." instead of hi :P |
| 12:06:03 | [-AIR-] | haha |
| 12:08:19 | leftright | I dont understand why i get a 'dir full' warning after a major upgrade, my settings are reloaded and the dir buffer is set correctly |
| 12:08:39 | leftright | it goes away with some fidling of the dir buffer values |
| 12:09:05 | leftright | and a restart |
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| 12:22:48 | amiconn | leftright: Yes, that's because of 2 effects: (1) The settings are reset due to the config version change, that means of course also the dir buffer limit. (2) Changes to the buffer limits need a reboot to take effect |
| 12:23:23 | [-AIR-] | err in the new grayscale on iriver. using the updown l/r joystick to move the image around, is it sposed to like but sections off the image that go off the screen? |
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| 12:27:05 | amiconn | [-AIR-]: ??? |
| 12:27:19 | [-AIR-] | yup |
| 12:27:31 | amiconn | What do you mean?? |
| 12:27:32 | [-AIR-] | cut* |
| 12:27:35 | [-AIR-] | not but |
| 12:27:36 | [-AIR-] | soryr |
| 12:27:54 | [-AIR-] | any part of the image that goes off the screen is lost until i restart the plugin |
| 12:28:30 | Chamois | amiconn : here ? |
| 12:28:41 | amiconn | Ah, you mean the demo. Yes, that's how it works |
| 12:28:56 | amiconn | It's mainly aimed at devs, to show how to use the grayscale lib |
| 12:29:12 | [-AIR-] | devs? |
| 12:29:16 | Chamois | amiconn : pm |
| 12:29:20 | [-AIR-] | developers |
| 12:30:13 | [-AIR-] | also. rockblox. any idea who's gonna reqrite it for irivER? |
| 12:30:22 | [-AIR-] | and when? |
| 12:34:13 | Cassandra | There's a patch in the tracker. |
| 12:34:22 | Cassandra | The thing is they changed the orientation. |
| 12:34:34 | Cassandra | Which is a feature rather than a bug. |
| 12:34:46 | [-AIR-] | rite. how do i apply patches? |
| 12:35:05 | Cassandra | See "Working with patches" on the Wiki. |
| 12:35:11 | amiconn | There is still a number of plugins that need to be better adapted to iriver, even if they're already working |
| 12:36:51 | [-AIR-] | yeryer. i need this then? |
| 12:36:52 | [-AIR-] | http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/patch.htm |
| 12:37:59 | [-AIR-] | Cassandra |
| 12:38:59 | Cassandra | Erm, do you have a development environment set up? (IE cygwin or Bluechip's devkit.) |
| 12:39:07 | [-AIR-] | no |
| 12:39:16 | [-AIR-] | i have cygwin |
| 12:39:19 | Cassandra | Ah, then you won't get far. |
| 12:39:20 | [-AIR-] | yer i do |
| 12:39:23 | [-AIR-] | i do |
| 12:39:31 | [-AIR-] | Cassandra |
| 12:40:13 | Cassandra | Patch should already be in it then. |
| 12:40:47 | Cassandra | Download the source from cvs or the daily build page, download the patch itself, apply the patch, compile your own Rockbox binary. |
| 12:40:48 | [-AIR-] | sorry im not quite following. i have never applied a patch or edited any rockbox stuff. so i am mildly cretinous |
| 12:43:48 | [-AIR-] | cd to/source/root ??? |
| 12:44:03 | [-AIR-] | oic |
| 12:44:09 | [-AIR-] | change dir to source root |
| 12:44:10 | [-AIR-] | gotti |
| 12:44:11 | [-AIR-] | t |
| 12:44:57 | Cassandra | I have no idea of specifics. I develop under Linux. |
| 12:45:37 | [-AIR-] | kk |
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| 12:47:20 | [-AIR-] | hum |
| 12:47:40 | [-AIR-] | can anyone here help me apply a patch in windowS/ |
| 12:47:41 | [-AIR-] | ? |
| 12:51:16 | [-AIR-] | why aren't the patches put in the daily builds? |
| 12:51:44 | ashridah | because a developer with commit access hasn't applied them, or they don't work on all platforms? |
| 12:51:54 | [-AIR-] | kk |
| 12:53:02 | ashridah | if you're using cygwin, patching is typically similar. go to the top level of your copy of the rockbox source (typically just the 'rockbox' directory) and use patch -p 1 < /path/to/uncompressed/patch/file |
| 12:53:29 | ashridah | if the patch has a .gz extension, typically you'll need to use gunzip on it. (bunzip2 for .bz2 extensions), but it probably isn't compressed. |
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| 12:54:07 | ashridah | now, if that immediately asks you a question about not being able to find the file, ctrl-c it, and try patch -p 0 < /path/to/patch/file instead |
| 12:54:26 | ashridah | keep in mind that if the patch fails for some reason, you're possibly out of luck until someone can help you apply it. |
| 12:54:35 | ashridah | and make any changes necessary |
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| 12:56:43 | austriancoder | morning |
| 12:57:24 | [-AIR-] | cheers ashridah |
| 12:57:29 | [-AIR-] | ill try it :) |
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| 13:01:14 | [-AIR-] | how do i compile the source? |
| 13:01:39 | ashridah | there's instructions that cover that in the wiki on www.rockbox.org i believe |
| 13:02:41 | [-AIR-] | argh i don gettit :'( |
| 13:03:16 | [-AIR-] | gottit :) |
| 13:03:20 | [-AIR-] | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
| 13:04:17 | [-AIR-] | ah well |
| 13:04:20 | * | [-AIR-] sighs |
| 13:04:31 | * | [-AIR-] only want to play vertical rockblox |
| 13:04:40 | [-AIR-] | don worry ppl |
| 13:04:44 | * | [-AIR-] cries in the corner |
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| 14:32:54 | ripnetuk | hi all... quick question (to save reading all irc logs for last 2 weeks) - are we any closer to remote display support on iRiver yet? thats the only thing stopping me from using Rockbox full time... is anyone known to be working on this? |
| 14:33:13 | * | ripnetuk really looking forward to custom wps on remote |
| 14:33:31 | Cassandra | Because no-ones been interested enough to write it yet. |
| 14:33:40 | Cassandra | Things get done as people work on them. |
| 14:33:48 | Cassandra | People work on what they're interested in. |
| 14:39:59 | ripnetuk | yeah, i know how open source dev works <−−- (not trying to be rude!) |
| 14:40:17 | ripnetuk | but usually with these things, architecture work needs doing first |
| 14:40:26 | ripnetuk | (eg, codec api needed doing before mp3 support) |
| 14:41:02 | ripnetuk | im guessing that one of the 'masters' like LinusN would need to approve a change that allowed duel screen structures etc |
| 14:41:50 | Cassandra | *nods* Yes. |
| 14:41:55 | Cassandra | I think someone was working on it. |
| 14:42:01 | Cassandra | Maybe they went on holiday. |
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| 14:53:28 | ripnetuk | oh well... i might have a look at the code myself, but I think this is going to need discussion to get a concensus of how it should be done before we jump in... |
| 14:53:30 | ripnetuk | cya later |
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| 15:29:45 | f55 | just a thought... in theory.. the h1xx has usb in one end and optical i/o in the other.. does that mean it could be possible - with the right software/firmware to use it as a usb-digital i/o soundcard? :) |
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| 15:36:56 | CoCoLUS | i think not |
| 15:37:53 | CoCoLUS | afair the h-1xx only works as a mass storage device |
| 15:38:33 | Chamois | ogg playing seems to be broken |
| 15:38:49 | Chamois | few minutes after start of playning iriver hangs |
| 15:43:02 | Chamois | hmm |
| 15:43:05 | Chamois | no i'm wrong |
| 15:43:10 | Chamois | it was my build |
| 15:49:34 | [-AIR-] | :) |
| 15:50:37 | Lear | Phew, got me worried there for a moment... :) |
| 15:53:24 | Chamois | hmm |
| 15:53:28 | Chamois | i have a quiestion |
| 15:53:52 | Chamois | does the cpu frequency changing take power |
| 15:54:35 | Chamois | ? |
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| 16:01:36 | Lear | I doubt the changing as such consumes any noticable amount of power, but I don't know much about that, to be honest. :) |
| 16:05:41 | amiconn | The change itself doesn't consume additional power, but it costs a bit of performance. The PLL needs to relock on the new frequency, which can take up to 10 msec. In th emeantime, the CPU core is running at 11 MHz |
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| 16:09:37 | Lear | And that, in turns, ought to mean the CPU needs to run at a higher speed for slightly longer... |
| 16:10:14 | amiconn | Yes exactly |
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| 16:14:02 | Zagor | off-topic: anyone have a gmail invite to bounce my way? |
| 16:14:07 | t0mas | yes |
| 16:14:19 | t0mas | name + mail address? |
| 16:15:55 | t0mas | send :) |
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| 16:57:29 | t0mas | does anybody here know some form designer for linux? |
| 16:57:58 | t0mas | (a bit like ms access... just click together a form...) |
| 16:58:03 | t0mas | but then using mysql |
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| 17:06:21 | preglow | i thought we were supposed to avoid using iram for code |
| 17:07:43 | Lear | haven't heard that... any particular reason? |
| 17:07:52 | preglow | well, yeah, there's a code cache |
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| 17:08:13 | preglow | it's better to reorganize code to utilise that better instead, if possible |
| 17:08:19 | Lear | well, I did time with and without the code in iram. it was faster with in in iram. |
| 17:08:23 | preglow | yes, sure |
| 17:08:40 | Lear | in these cases, the functions are called very often... |
| 17:08:42 | preglow | but there's usually more to be gained by putting data in iram and using cache better for code |
| 17:09:04 | preglow | hmm, i should put in the cachetest code i use in my imdct patch |
| 17:09:16 | Lear | well, do you have any suitable data to put there? i don't know what it should be... |
| 17:09:34 | Lear | imdct for mad? |
| 17:09:36 | NHeal | tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 17:09:36 | NJoin | odd [0] (mrodd@fangorn.starshadow.com) |
| 17:09:39 | preglow | yes |
| 17:10:08 | preglow | putting all the cache critical functions right next to each other is pretty important to avoid destroying the cache all the time |
| 17:10:14 | Lear | wondering, because I'm trying to rewrite some vorbis code into asm, but progress is slow... |
| 17:10:44 | preglow | so we should have a CACHE_SEG #define or something for important functions |
| 17:10:52 | preglow | it's trivial to implement |
| 17:11:00 | Lear | that would explain why things seemed to go faster when I removed some stuff from iram that wasn't needed anyway... |
| 17:11:04 | preglow | but i still have no dev env :/ |
| 17:12:11 | preglow | yeah, the cache is pretty shitty, if the lower twelve bits (or so) of a function address collide, the functions will never be cached properly if both are called often |
| 17:12:41 | preglow | i actually had that happen when trying out the new asm imdct for mad |
| 17:12:51 | preglow | what tremor stuff are you rewriting, btw? |
| 17:13:40 | Lear | mdct_butterfly_generic. some profiling (on x86 I guess) showed it to be where the most time was spent. |
| 17:14:20 | preglow | a viable route for the mdct stuff in tremor, would be replacing it with a fast fft and some support routines |
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| 17:19:26 | prethom | lovely web client |
| 17:20:19 | Lear | well, that is probably a bit over my head, so... :) |
| 17:20:38 | prethom | we'll see when i get decent net connection and a dev env again |
| 17:21:24 | prethom | amiconn: lovely work on the grayscale and graphics |
| 17:22:35 | amiconn | Thx :) |
| 17:23:10 | prethom | what number of colours does h1x0 have now? |
| 17:23:14 | prethom | in dithered mode, that is |
| 17:23:26 | amiconn | 33, as on the archos |
| 17:23:31 | prethom | ahh |
| 17:23:33 | prethom | with less overhead? |
| 17:24:00 | prethom | and btw, what is the retrace like glitch that can be seen every now and then? |
| 17:24:12 | amiconn | Since the LCD data hookup is parallel, it uses less CPU, somewhat less than 10% |
| 17:24:41 | amiconn | However, the grayscale lib keeps the CPU at 120 MHz, to avoid timer period changes (that would cause glitches like mad) |
| 17:24:54 | prethom | i dont think that's too bad |
| 17:25:36 | amiconn | The retrace glitch is due to the grayscale refresh rate not being synchronsied with the internal LCD refresh |
| 17:25:53 | prethom | and this is as synched as it gets? |
| 17:26:11 | amiconn | Unfortunately it's not possible to synchronise, as the LCD has no way to read back its internal read pointer |
| 17:26:39 | amiconn | ...and the frequency isn't even constant, as the LCD uses an RC oscillator which drifts with temperature |
| 17:26:50 | prethom | ahh, indeed |
| 17:26:51 | Lear | preglow, do you know of any documentation over what can cause a pipeline stall in a coldfire? the docs I have mention two stores in a row, but that's pretty much it... |
| 17:26:52 | amiconn | We have the same problem on archos, even more visible |
| 17:26:56 | prethom | then you can pretty much just forget it |
| 17:27:03 | prethom | it's not that visible anyway |
| 17:27:18 | prethom | lear: i have no idea, i'd love such documentation |
| 17:27:32 | prethom | lear: only stalls i know of are store stalls and accumulator fetch stalls |
| 17:28:07 | prethom | amiconn: it's surprisingly nice to view pictures with this thing, i would never have guessed it |
| 17:28:09 | Lear | yes, that's all the user's manual mentions... |
| 17:29:23 | prethom | lear: there's surprisingly little info on the pipeline at all |
| 17:35:09 | amiconn | Today I tested my idea to switch the LCD to b&w mode while showing grayscale. Turned out that it's worse than now |
| 17:36:09 | prethom | oh? |
| 17:36:14 | prethom | in what way? |
| 17:36:15 | amiconn | The internal refresh rate doubles in b&w mode, so this should allow for less flicker. However, the LCD uses some kind of internal interlace in that mode, leading to strange interference artifacts |
| 17:36:39 | prethom | queer |
| 17:36:53 | amiconn | Would have been nice - would need half the RAM, and allow double the refresh rate :( |
| 17:37:26 | amiconn | There is a way to bring down the flicker a bit - we could increase the internal LCD clock |
| 17:37:33 | prethom | btw, am i the only one getting really strange fwpatcher gui bugs? |
| 17:37:46 | amiconn | Currently we set it to 76 kHz, leading to a refresh rate of ~70 Hz |
| 17:38:15 | amiconn | We can set it up to 120 kHz, but I don't know how that influences power consumption |
| 17:38:35 | prethom | i fire it up, click the text box, and get a could not open patched firmware for checksum check error :/ |
| 17:38:38 | amiconn | That would give a refresh rate of ~110 Hz, and hence less flicker |
| 17:38:51 | prethom | i think it looks very nice as it is, so unless it gives a way better picture... |
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| 17:42:32 | amiconn | prethom: Yes indeed. The slowness of the LCD panel helps a lot here... |
| 17:43:40 | [-AIR-] | hey. probly has a stupidly long answer which you need not give to a newB like me. but how does rockbox make the battery life longer? |
| 17:44:27 | t0mas | by using less cpu power |
| 17:44:36 | t0mas | if the cpu is at a lower speed... it uses less power.. |
| 17:44:44 | t0mas | so it can run longer |
| 17:45:18 | [-AIR-] | wiked. what consequences does that have ? |
| 17:45:20 | prethom | has anyone actually done tests to confirm it uses less power? |
| 17:45:24 | [-AIR-] | slower basically? |
| 17:45:56 | [-AIR-] | i could do that :) |
| 17:45:58 | [-AIR-] | but... |
| 17:46:04 | t0mas | no, not slower |
| 17:46:11 | t0mas | we just use less cpu to decode the same music... |
| 17:46:14 | t0mas | better codecs |
| 17:46:23 | prethom | t0mas: are you certain this is the case? |
| 17:46:26 | t0mas | no |
| 17:46:26 | [-AIR-] | i'd have to make sure the rockbox firmware and the iriver firmware are doing exactly the same thing to test battery |
| 17:46:34 | [-AIR-] | rite kewl |
| 17:46:37 | t0mas | then put it on repeat on 1 album |
| 17:46:37 | prethom | i'd be surprised if the codecs are better |
| 17:46:39 | [-AIR-] | better efficiency |
| 17:46:46 | prethom | especially mp3 |
| 17:46:48 | t0mas | yes |
| 17:46:50 | [-AIR-] | kk |
| 17:46:57 | t0mas | and... in real use... |
| 17:47:02 | t0mas | iriver has the hd spinning bug |
| 17:47:06 | t0mas | and rockbox doesn't have that |
| 17:47:12 | [-AIR-] | any idea what level 100% on the rockbox firmware is on the iriver firmware? |
| 17:47:17 | [-AIR-] | yeryer |
| 17:47:21 | prethom | the same, should be |
| 17:47:26 | [-AIR-] | snot |
| 17:47:30 | [-AIR-] | much quiter on rockbox |
| 17:47:39 | prethom | you use eq, then? |
| 17:47:44 | [-AIR-] | nope |
| 17:47:45 | [-AIR-] | normal |
| 17:47:54 | t0mas | in rockbox |
| 17:47:58 | t0mas | set bass boost to 0 |
| 17:47:59 | [-AIR-] | "40" is max on iriver is much louder than 100% on iriver...both maximums |
| 17:48:02 | [-AIR-] | yer |
| 17:48:03 | t0mas | and treble boost to 0 also |
| 17:48:06 | Lear | Hey, just read that Motorola/Freescale has developed a real-time MP3 encoder for the ColdFire... |
| 17:48:10 | [-AIR-] | on both iriver and rockbox normal eq is used |
| 17:48:10 | prethom | i find this a bit hard to believe, sounds the same here |
| 17:48:17 | [-AIR-] | o |
| 17:48:18 | prethom | lear: well, yes, good luck getting your hands on it |
| 17:48:20 | [-AIR-] | i didnt think so |
| 17:48:29 | Lear | Apparantly there's a high-quality encoder available as well, though I guess it isn't realtime... |
| 17:48:44 | * | prethom hugs wavpack |
| 17:49:07 | [-AIR-] | hum. |
| 17:49:13 | [-AIR-] | ill do a few tests |
| 17:49:39 | prethom | damn, i'm itching to code again |
| 17:54:19 | [-AIR-] | loq |
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| 18:08:24 | Coldtoast | howdy |
| 18:08:37 | Coldtoast | I had this really odd lockup today in rockbox |
| 18:09:21 | Coldtoast | I'd hit pause on the remote and it didn't. I look at the player and all looked fine then i realised the play position wasn't cahnging |
| 18:09:42 | Coldtoast | how the joystick button to go to file tree and nothing. After maybe 20secs, it went to the file tree |
| 18:09:43 | [-AIR-] | yer crashed |
| 18:09:54 | [-AIR-] | yer happened to me. just being really slow. |
| 18:09:56 | Coldtoast | clicked it again to leave, many seconds later, it did |
| 18:10:00 | Coldtoast | yep |
| 18:10:08 | Coldtoast | but it kept playing |
| 18:10:18 | [-AIR-] | y7er same here. until the end of the track when it stopped |
| 18:10:20 | [-AIR-] | then i reset |
| 18:10:35 | Coldtoast | I let it play and it started teh next track fine |
| 18:10:45 | * | [-AIR-] is building a kitchen |
| 18:10:45 | Coldtoast | tho it didn't crossfade |
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| 18:19:42 | Cka3ka | hey hey |
| 18:19:43 | austriancoder | hi |
| 18:19:56 | Cka3ka | watcha all up to |
| 18:20:11 | Cka3ka | <<−− just woke up, still pondering on what to eat =-) |
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| 18:23:34 | austriancoder | has anybody time to help me with some coding stuff? |
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| 18:40:26 | * | amiconn found the problem with the mandelbrot aspect... |
| 18:42:22 | amiconn | ..or not :-/ |
| 18:50:28 | Slasheri | hi :) |
| 18:50:36 | Slasheri | just few minutes time to irc |
| 18:52:14 | Coldtoast | hey Slasheri |
| 18:52:18 | Coldtoast | good luck! heh |
| 18:52:51 | Coldtoast | you about to head off for the service? |
| 18:53:10 | Slasheri | thanks, still over two weeks left :) |
| 18:53:19 | Slasheri | but that's not so much time :) |
| 18:54:00 | crwl | heh |
| 18:54:10 | crwl | is sami sihvonen there? ;D |
| 18:54:14 | Slasheri | hi crwl :) |
| 18:54:36 | Slasheri | fortunately not, i already heard sihvonen was here before my era :) |
| 18:54:48 | crwl | but i understood that he probably had to stay |
| 18:54:54 | crwl | well, maybe not then :) |
| 18:54:59 | Slasheri | oh.. then i am not sure abou that.. |
| 18:55:06 | Slasheri | there is however one "atk-sivari" :D |
| 18:55:16 | Slasheri | he might be that, i don't know ;) |
| 18:55:36 | crwl | hopefully not :) |
| 18:55:40 | Slasheri | :D |
| 18:56:09 | Slasheri | but in fact it's quite nice in being here ;) |
| 18:56:43 | crwl | it is, in summer |
| 18:56:58 | Slasheri | :) |
| 18:57:59 | Slasheri | tomorrow i will go back to helsinki-jyväskylä for about two days |
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| 19:00:52 | crwl | two days of rockbox coding? ;) |
| 19:03:13 | bluebrother^ | Coldtoast: your lockdown sounds similar to the slowdown aftern changing volume by holding the joystick for a longer time |
| 19:03:46 | Slasheri | crwl: i might be able to fix one bug or two if i have really much time.. but i wouldn't count on that ;) |
| 19:03:50 | crwl | hehe |
| 19:08:07 | HCl | god how i hate my gay flatmate. |
| 19:08:10 | HCl | and not cause he's gay. |
| 19:08:12 | HCl | but he's *such* a jerk |
| 19:08:20 | HCl | sup.. |
| 19:12:33 | [-AIR-] | is he a chav? |
| 19:12:39 | [-AIR-] | HCl ? |
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| 19:13:28 | Bippems | I have a question, im trying to play a 384kbit and its playing slow ? |
| 19:13:42 | [-AIR-] | format? |
| 19:13:48 | Bippems | MP3 |
| 19:14:21 | crwl | unlikely |
| 19:14:33 | Bippems | ? |
| 19:14:49 | Bippems | it states clearly 384kbit |
| 19:15:01 | Bippems | 128kbit plays fine tho |
| 19:15:16 | crwl | maybe it's mp2 or something |
| 19:15:49 | Bippems | dunno, doubt it |
| 19:16:15 | Bippems | Normal iriver firmware will play it.. |
| 19:16:40 | [-AIR-] | i don't think mp3 can go over 320 |
| 19:16:47 | [-AIR-] | at least i've never seen it |
| 19:17:46 | Bippems | Id send it to you, if i knew how |
| 19:18:53 | [-AIR-] | collinsgeorge@gmail.com |
| 19:19:15 | Bippems | you got MSN messenger? |
| 19:19:18 | Bippems | easier |
| 19:19:47 | [-AIR-] | yer add me im on |
| 19:19:49 | HCl | wha? |
| 19:19:56 | HCl | chav? |
| 19:20:25 | [-AIR-] | is ur flat mate like a barry...chav..like into hip-hop and wears burberry |
| 19:20:29 | HCl | no |
| 19:20:32 | HCl | he likes trance |
| 19:21:25 | Bippems | lol @ burberry |
| 19:22:05 | [-AIR-] | haha |
| 19:22:07 | [-AIR-] | ok. |
| 19:22:10 | [-AIR-] | trance well could be worse. |
| 19:22:19 | [-AIR-] | wot stuff u into hcl ? |
| 19:23:46 | HCl | music? |
| 19:23:58 | HCl | pretty much everything but rap, r&b, hiphop, popular crap and trance |
| 19:24:20 | HCl | The Byrds - Mr tambourine man at the moment |
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| 19:27:33 | [-AIR-] | same as :) |
| 19:27:37 | [-AIR-] | i really like common ATM |
| 19:28:05 | Coldtoast | http://theinquirer.net/?article=24968 |
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| 19:28:43 | Coldtoast | ""…the PS3 can't be offered at a price that's targeted towards households."" <= nice statement there |
| 19:34:16 | Lear | Finally! Been struggling with bugs in some assembly code, but finally got it right. :) |
| 19:38:01 | amiconn | asm is fun, eh? |
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| 19:38:48 | Lear | not in this particular case at least... |
| 19:39:06 | HCl | Coldtoast: heh. |
| 19:39:14 | HCl | they're gonna have a tiny market then. |
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| 19:49:48 | austriancoder | how should i call the *.c/*.h file for the TI TLV320AIC23B Audio Codec - tlv320aic23b.c or should i use tlv320.c ? |
| 19:56:02 | Zagor | i'd say the shorter is fine |
| 19:57:47 | HCl | sounds like you're going fast ac :p |
| 19:57:54 | HCl | i also vote for the second |
| 19:58:03 | austriancoder | Zagor: oki... your money never arrieved by me |
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| 19:58:25 | austriancoder | HC1: audio codec driver is easy, as it is connected via i2c... |
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| 20:02:05 | HCl | :p |
| 20:02:08 | HCl | hcL |
| 20:02:29 | austriancoder | sorry ;) |
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| 20:05:14 | amiconn | Now I found the real cause for the aspect problem in mandelbrot.rock ... |
| 20:05:29 | amiconn | In fact this bug is ooold |
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| 20:06:16 | OPP | hello |
| 20:06:48 | OPP | do you guys need an h320? |
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| 20:08:24 | OPP | an iriver h320 |
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| 20:18:58 | HCl | nope, we're pretty much set |
| 20:19:05 | HCl | linus has an 320 or 340 |
| 20:19:18 | HCl | amiconn: what was it? |
| 20:19:31 | amiconn | See my commit... |
| 20:19:39 | amiconn | The aspect handling was broken |
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| 20:30:18 | OPP | o ok |
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| 20:30:23 | OPP | because i want an h140 |
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| 20:30:31 | OPP | and thought maybe i could work a deal out |
| 20:30:35 | OPP | but its ok |
| 20:30:41 | ghode|afk | hi, does anyone have problems with ogg playback? for some reason since 24/07 build? for some reason it puts a skip near the beginning of a track. lear? |
| 20:31:28 | austriancoder | bye all |
| 20:32:21 | Lear | ghode: what kind of size on that skip? and do you mean it doesn't play the very first part? |
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| 20:33:27 | ghode|afk | hmm ok not skip, it plays th song then there is a pop, then it continues playing, doesnt happen with all ogg files, and it was working before |
| 20:35:33 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK [-AIR-] |
| 20:35:33 | [-AIR-] | tubgirl[1]: www.tubgirl.com , possibly the most n00b friendly warez info/download site online |
| 20:35:43 | ghode|afk | err wtf |
| 20:35:47 | ghode|afk | why do that? |
| 20:36:00 | Lear | a pop very early on in the file you mean? |
| 20:36:05 | ghode|afk | yes |
| 20:36:31 | Lear | hm... haven't noticed that... is it loud? do you have a not-too-large example file? |
| 20:36:49 | [-AIR-] | hey someone.i have a rom. it is however not associated with rockboy. i have to go "open with −−> rockboy" is this right? can i change that? |
| 20:37:33 | [-AIR-] | its a .rom |
| 20:37:37 | [-AIR-] | should it be a .gb ? |
| 20:38:32 | ghode|afk | lear; btw there is some hdd activty before it pops |
| 20:39:39 | Lear | now that makes no sense... :) or do you mean the pop occurs as rockbox starts to buffer new data? |
| 20:41:11 | ghode|afk | ok, i start the song, it plays for 2 seconds, red light flashes/track pops, carries on a few seconds and repeats, 2 more times, then carries on as normal |
| 20:42:19 | ghode|afk | gunna try build from 14th, i know it was working then |
| 20:43:16 | Lear | well, I haven't seen anything like that, that's for sure... and there's nothing wrong with your hd? |
| 20:43:41 | ghode|afk | not afaik |
| 20:45:00 | Coldtoast | I just tested here and I don't get that either |
| 20:45:21 | ghode|afk | weird, tried 14 july build, and the same thing happens but this time it takes 16 seconds |
| 20:49:16 | ghode|afk | tried playing the track in foobar and the irver firmware and they play it ok |
| 20:49:22 | Coldtoast | wow! a gun that can fire 1 million rounds a minute |
| 20:50:36 | [-AIR-] | ok. the mandlebrot. it's a fractal, ie. a mathematical model to which you can zoom in infinitely. so why, when you zoom in does it become pixelated like ur looking at a jpeg? |
| 20:51:21 | amiconn | [-AIR-]: Limited precision. |
| 20:51:36 | [-AIR-] | which means? <−−−− not meaning to be rude |
| 20:51:46 | amiconn | The mandelbrot plugin uses fixed point math, with a fractional part of 26 bits |
| 20:52:09 | OPP | how long do you think till the h320 has a release |
| 20:52:14 | OPP | like 6 months? |
| 20:52:30 | amiconn | This will happen with almost every mandelbrot generator, sooner or later depending on the precision used |
| 20:52:30 | ghode|afk | when its done ;p |
| 20:52:32 | Coldtoast | 23 years |
| 20:52:49 | [-AIR-] | fixed point math? ie. generates the inital image and then that's it? doesn't generate the new image every zoom ? |
| 20:53:39 | ghode|afk | lear: looks like problem is gone, just downloaded the latest bleeding edge. and it plays fine now |
| 20:53:50 | amiconn | No, it means the numbers are stored internally in a way that the fractzional part takes a fixed amount of bits, and the integer part too of course |
| 20:54:35 | amiconn | However, this precision problem would occur with floating point math in the same way. |
| 20:54:59 | amiconn | Of course the image is recalculated every time, otherwise you couldn't zoom in that deep |
| 20:55:50 | amiconn | I'm pondering whether to implement an optional high precision mode which would kick in automatically at a certain zoom level |
| 20:56:20 | amiconn | Of course you would notice it because it will get significantly slower at that point |
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| 21:07:55 | [-AIR-] | yer, but for me, who loves fractals :) and you said you were itching to code :) |
| 21:07:59 | [-AIR-] | please... |
| 21:08:08 | [-AIR-] | that'd be AWESOME and you know it would : |
| 21:08:58 | [-AIR-] | amiconn ? |
| 21:20:19 | [-AIR-] | http://www.mrdawes.com/downloads/fractal.zip |
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| 22:15:00 | webguest88 | hello |
| 22:15:37 | webguest88 | when will rockbox start on the iriver h320 |
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| 22:27:25 | CoCoLUS | hm |
| 22:27:39 | CoCoLUS | newest build hangs on my flac files... |
| 22:27:54 | CoCoLUS | must have something to do with the implementing of metadata reading |
| 22:31:57 | CoCoLUS | totally reproduceable, everytime |
| 22:39:49 | amiconn | Red H1x0 builds... to whoever Ryan is |
| 22:46:39 | Lear | Eh, has he even compiled the thing? :) |
| 22:48:27 | amiconn | Lear: I just noticed something. Is it just a coincidence or did *you* write an image viewer for AmigaOS some years ago? |
| 22:48:45 | Lear | Nope, that is correct... |
| 22:49:05 | amiconn | I noticed b/c I used Visage 39.22 today... |
| 22:49:38 | Lear | Oh, you did? How come? |
| 22:50:08 | amiconn | I viewed some pics on my good old Amiga 4000. |
| 22:50:23 | amiconn | Visage is in fact my favourite full-screen viewer on Amiga |
| 22:50:27 | Lear | He, I put my A4000 away for a number of years ago... |
| 22:50:40 | amiconn | Mine is still running 24/7 |
| 22:51:06 | amiconn | I used it mainly for email, and since it's running all day anyway, it also does dnetc work |
| 22:52:11 | amiconn | Of course it's not a stock A4000... |
| 22:52:26 | Lear | Towards the end mine had problems booting from the HD; sometimes it worked after a couple of resets... |
| 22:53:36 | amiconn | The only problem of my Amiga is that the audio output is broken. I already fixed it several times; some vias on the mainboard are failing... |
| 22:54:05 | amiconn | ...luickily only some of those located in the corner where the audio part is |
| 22:54:52 | amiconn | Oh, and the SCSI module for my cyberstorm is broken, so I had to hook up the HD to the internal IDE port - not exactly fast... |
| 22:55:01 | amiconn | I bet it's the connector. |
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| 23:02:22 | [-AIR-] | amiconn u there? |
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